#archived-update-spoilers

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harsh plover
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Really? I never noticed it

dusty mason
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idk if it's just me, but it's the first thing I noticed when I first upgrade my hoe lol

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it stays in this frame for a bit longer im pretty sure

harsh plover
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I think I understand why

dusty mason
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It might be to give you more time to charge it? I don't really know

harsh plover
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When the tool is unupgraded it doesn't wait for you to release the click and just preforms the action no matter when you take your finger off

hidden ore
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so if you are fast enough on the release the wait will be negligible then?

dusty mason
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is it my computer lagging and making that delay? that would be funny

harsh plover
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And when it's upgraded it waits because obviously it does, multi-tile reaching wouldn't be possible without it

harsh plover
dusty mason
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yeah it's probably that, and it's just the way I click ig lmao

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so I guess it would only be a problem for me

hidden ore
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luckily we don't have the option, so no problem šŸ˜„

vapid furnace
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Do I need an incubator?

dry lance
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No

harsh plover
hidden ore
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you might get a void egg drop and want to hatch that egg, so yeah

hidden ore
dry lance
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Just make egg into void mayo and call it a day

harsh plover
vapid furnace
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I'm not talking about actual gameplay, I'm going to get the Deluxe coop anyways

harsh plover
hidden ore
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right, the only way to get the golden chicken is from the egg....

vapid furnace
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Look at the picture again in a "Okay, this is a joke" perspective

green kindle
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Animal neglect be like

harsh plover
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Get an auto grabber dude

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Wait why is that brown egg above the incubator

vapid furnace
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That's a great question

green kindle
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Didn't even notice Lul

harsh plover
vapid furnace
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Axe just oneupped me on coop joke

green kindle
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It can stay there

dusty mason
hidden ore
lofty axle
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another new layout
slimed tho

dusty mason
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only 5 people left until I'm max friendship with everyone

harsh plover
dusty mason
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I've seen that exact shape but with rails going through the middle

harsh plover
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Makes it less odd then

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Cause it really feels like something is missing

solemn yacht
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Does Iridium Scythe also harvest forage items/Truffles? I'm making sure before I delete my Scythe mod.

neat sail
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Don't think so

solemn yacht
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Sadge. Only remaining reason for me to keep the mod. Using a Scythe to smack all truffles/foragebles around me is very enjoyable.

harsh plover
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Yeah, I really hope CA adds this because it makes no sense why you wouldn't be able to

green igloo
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HI

harsh plover
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HI

green igloo
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WHEN IS IT COMIN TO SWITCH

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šŸ”«

harsh plover
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UHHH SOON

solemn yacht
green igloo
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IKR

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IT WILL PROB BE A YEAR

dusty mason
green igloo
harsh plover
green igloo
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It’s been 3 weeks

green igloo
dusty mason
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let's find out! @conc- *gunshot*

harsh plover
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Think about it this way: PC is testing and receiving all the bugs so you can have the clean experience after they're patched

green igloo
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So it will be easier

solemn yacht
green igloo
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šŸ˜Ž

harsh plover
green igloo
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Ps Xbox

harsh plover
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Mobile, PS, X-Box...

green igloo
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Steam switch

harsh plover
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Yeah so those 4

solemn yacht
dusty mason
# green igloo But I want the bugs

ah yes, trying to get golden scythe and magically warping to floor 7k of the skull caverns, incredibly useful bugs (nothing works that far down)

green igloo
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Nope not mobile they don’t have the ginger

harsh plover
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They do

green igloo
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When?

harsh plover
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Bro's not up to date

harsh plover
green igloo
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Not on Apple

harsh plover
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No way

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Check again

dusty mason
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"mobile doesn't have movie theater yet"

neat sail
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All mobiles got the 1.5 update a year ago no?

arctic crest
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mobile 1.5 release date was sometime jan 2023

dusty mason
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just a tiny bit late

green igloo
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Pfft

harsh plover
arctic crest
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that's on pc

dusty mason
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I just checked on the wiki something that was added in 1.4 lol

harsh plover
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Latest mobile version as of late is 1.5.6

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All platforms should be getting 1.6 (if not 1.6.4) soon

green igloo
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I’m downloading it

arctic crest
green igloo
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Just wait

harsh plover
green igloo
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I’ll do a scientific enquiry

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It takes for ever….

arctic crest
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bro is way behind

harsh plover
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Yeah that's the current version

olive patio
arctic crest
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they're askign about ios

harsh plover
arctic crest
harsh plover
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Yup

green igloo
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:0 multiplayer

harsh plover
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Still 1 year ago

green igloo
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:0

harsh plover
green igloo
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I got switch

arctic crest
green igloo
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I didn’t know it had for iOS

harsh plover
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Wait switch doesn't have multi?

green igloo
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Yh

harsh plover
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Aw dang

green igloo
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It does

harsh plover
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Oh

green igloo
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I play with my friend and bomb his plot

dusty mason
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sam just quickly changes clothes to accept my gift and then just changes back

green igloo
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lol

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They should make mega bomb emoji

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And how u get rank

harsh plover
wispy slate
wispy slate
green igloo
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How get rank tho

harsh plover
green igloo
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Oh

harsh plover
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The more you talk and engage you level up

wispy slate
green igloo
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La La La

dusty mason
harsh plover
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Not by spamming tho

green igloo
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What do when u get there

gentle ermine
arctic crest
dusty mason
green igloo
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HI

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It didn’t appear

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Bro

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I’m not even level 1

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Look at it

jovial dune
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I guess the seeds sprouted before they died, there was a lot of dead plants and all my fields stayed tilled. Got everything replanted by 12:30 AM O_o

green igloo
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😦

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||hi||

dry lance
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Bro you just ruined the intire game for me

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You can’t post that in this channel

dry lance
green igloo
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:0

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Do it at your risk

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Do do do do do nothing to see here

crimson sand
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not sure if its new new but a truffle i went to grab just. turned into a crab like a rock crab??

green igloo
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:0

strong geode
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whats the most optimal way to get alot of moss during green rain? i wanna save upp to 333 moss so when i get mastery i can get the statue

willow meteor
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Cut down weeds to obtain moss, and be sure to look out for moss growing on trees, as this is extremely common during this event. After the Green Rain ends, the new trees and weeds will disappear the next day so be sure to get it right away

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guarenteed at least once per summer, but can only occur in summer

woven tusk
willow meteor
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Classic

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How are people enjoying the new "Meadows farm"?

arctic crest
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Meadows farm pretty sweet

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updated riverlands is nice too

strong geode
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So like do you think I can get 333 moss in this one day?

hidden ore
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I like it pretty well, but I never do lots of outdoor crops on the main farm

willow meteor
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I've seen many use Meadow and River lately, call me old fashioned but the standard farm is my favourite, the four corners is nice too with friends

arctic crest
hidden ore
willow meteor
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Yeah just go crazy with coffee and other speed boosts like Spicy eel and just cut it all up

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you can always reset day too if you fumble too much, guarentee you get as much as possible

pine barn
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I forgot to gather all my moss at the end of fall.

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Turns out I already had a 999 stack, just in a different chest, so I was good

rich lake
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How do you get the advanced iridium rod?

desert stag
rich lake
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Thought so, thanks

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Anything else you get for it? Fishing mastery

woven tusk
woven tusk
rich lake
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Oh fancy

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Much appreciated

exotic parrot
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Yo, friendos!
Can I post something funny I saw from the quest board here?

dry lance
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Is it the super cucumber?

dusty mason
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really wanna get perfection on this save so I can start a meadowlands farm save, I really like that farm type

exotic parrot
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It's red snapper...

strong geode
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Before I go to sleep, is a reward granted for getting all masteries?

broken portal
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i got a quest from robin while she was building a coop

lavish rapids
exotic parrot
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@dry lance

strong geode
lavish rapids
strong geode
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Are you sure? Leme check the wiki

exotic parrot
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Jodi is desperate

strong geode
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Apparently a hat is the reward for all

broken portal
strong geode
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No there was a reward

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It said it on the wiki

lavish rapids
broken portal
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maybe from the hat mouse?

lavish rapids
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no, there's no achievment

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appears to be on the pilar

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might be an SVE bug leme double check not 100% sure I clicked on it

strong geode
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Yeah it should be on the pillar

woven tusk
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Oh, the reward for mastery is a hat ||but you can't wear it; it's an environmental prop, Grandpa's nightcap||

Also you get a pat on the shoulder ||from Grandpa||

strong geode
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Yeah I thought so

broken portal
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real

lapis sphinx
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I dunno what it is... The Meadowlands farm just ain't jiving with me. Others may like it, and good on them if they do... but I think this one's joining the Wilderness farm in the "Never Trying Again" pile...

tough remnant
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Meadowlands is pretty

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Which is its biggest upside

woven tusk
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You have to look at your farm every day, so aesthetics actually do have value

green kindle
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Where's the 'I already have a child' option

lavish rapids
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Where's the "No, cats are objectively better" option

green kindle
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Exactly

lavish rapids
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And this doesn't really apply is SV because kids are free appearently but kids are expensive so I would need to be in a pretty good financial position to want one IRL

dense yacht
lavish rapids
dense yacht
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No

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It’s the one where he wants to make a toast

woven tusk
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That's his 4 or 6, I think

dense yacht
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To your doooooom!

lavish rapids
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ah 4 heart

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he has no sense of humor smh

lavish rapids
green kindle
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Don't think I've actually seen Elliot's events

lavish rapids
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is that better? I don't know much about Alcohol contents

woven tusk
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It's still definitely not something you want to give a pregnant person

lavish rapids
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well yeah obviously lol

tough remnant
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SDV pregnancies are clearly not comparable to IRL pregnancies though

dense yacht
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At least it doesn’t seem to cause birth defects in Pelican town. All my children have been equally stupid.

lavish rapids
tough remnant
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For one thing, they last 2 weeks... which is the equivalent of like, 1.5 months

green kindle
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✨Immersion✨

lavish rapids
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although so does everyone in pelican town....

normal seal
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Oh man, oh Yoba, oh man, oh Yoba, oh man, oh Yoba! What's wrong with this raccoon family?

green kindle
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Maybe in a future update we get older kids

dense yacht
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Indeed. Granny and George are clearly immortals. Makes you wonder what really happened to old grandpa.

tough remnant
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Since that seems to be when everyone got frozen in time

lavish rapids
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(SVE joja route is fun don't yell at me)

tough remnant
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You still messed with the junimos at least once

dense yacht
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Joja probably polluted the environment and messed stuff up

tough remnant
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You need to to unlock Community Dev Form

lavish rapids
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hmmm

dense yacht
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In this run I am probably going to be roomies with Krobus and buy several pets

tough remnant
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Although I don't think you actually need to drink the forest juice strictly speaking?

lavish rapids
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correct

dense yacht
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And put cute hats on them

tough remnant
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You just need to avoid ever entering the wizard tower

lavish rapids
lavish rapids
tough remnant
lavish rapids
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no

brazen seal
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i just got to ginger island, where do i get a walnut from, there is no where to go

tough remnant
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Neat

tough remnant
brazen seal
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yes i sewe th ekid in the hut but i cant speak to him

dense yacht
reef prawn
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just finished perfection, maybe now i'll complete one of the harder challenges (the arcade games)

tough remnant
brazen seal
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yeah but i cant interact with it

dense yacht
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I am terrible at the arcade games and mostly ignore them. clicks Skip in Abigail heart event

brazen seal
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non of my tools do anything to it

tough remnant
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Have you tried just right clicking on it?

brazen seal
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yea lol

grizzled summit
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can new crops be pickled or kegged?

brazen seal
surreal scaffold
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sorry ma’am. i’m not a Pro Gamer

tough remnant
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Their purpose is to match the furniture and general aesthetic of the house

dense yacht
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I could feasibly marry someone, obtain stardrop, and divorce them and make them forget

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But I think I will just move in Krobus. He’s cool

eager drift
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which item is missing here ?

woven tusk
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Mystic Syrup

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Grow a mystic tree (foraging mastery) and stick a tapper on

grizzled summit
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just stole robin's jackolantern cat_kek

woven tusk
eager drift
woven tusk
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Mystic trees have a very low growth rate. Tree Fertilizer will help (but not bring it all the way to 100% like with the common tree types)

harsh plover
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for some you get the recipe not the thing itself

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oh wait I didn't update chat

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Replied to something old lol

green kindle
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How often does this game get content updates?

mellow atlas
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By default, Mystic Trees have a 15% chance to grow to the next stage each night during Spring, Summer, or Fall
WOW that is way smaller than I thought it would be

harsh plover
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can they grow in greenhouse?

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and does tree fertilizer work on them

plain flax
chilly bloom
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Only brings it up to 30% iirc

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I added the info the to tree fert wiki page so it should be there

harsh plover
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nice

plain flax
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Which aint bad.

surreal scaffold
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what’s the best mastery perk to pick first btw

tough remnant
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Farming still IMO

surreal scaffold
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i go into the mines a lot

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i know trinkets are good but are the drop rates bad?

chilly bloom
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They aren’t too bad

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You get multiple on a single sc trip basically guaranteed

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It’s actually a tad annoying

surreal scaffold
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can you find them in the regular/volcano or no

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i’ve been trying to grind cinder shards but i keep getting bodied by those stupid fire sprite thingies

plain flax
harsh bone
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just found a volcano floor with 2 rare chests

surreal scaffold
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me like 90 hours in with my copper trash can and gold pick:

harsh bone
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wtf

surreal scaffold
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i have like 50 iridium bars too i just hoard shit

harsh bone
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dont think u can find it in volcano

plain flax
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Hoarding is normal. I have 200 iridium bars on my 1.6 save. Radioactive is still a problem.

surreal scaffold
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i’m scared of the dangerous mines quest

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at least for skull caverns

plain flax
surreal scaffold
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i want to get to lvl 100 without totally relying on staircases, i finally@got a sword w crusader and i still get bodied

tough remnant
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Combat is a trap

surreal scaffold
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i kinda feel like keeping rabbits is pointless now w that thing

surreal scaffold
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yeah

tranquil igloo
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try to get it to infinity

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with 3 rubies for + damage

surreal scaffold
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uhm

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how do i

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do that…

tranquil igloo
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and just spam a lot of food to heal

tranquil igloo
surreal scaffold
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I dunno what that is

tough remnant
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Megabombs are king for the deep SC dive without stairs

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Don't fight the monsters unless absolutely necessary

tranquil igloo
surreal scaffold
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regular lol

tranquil igloo
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oh nvm

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yea carry a ton of megas

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and food

surreal scaffold
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i get farther on the festival days but idk if that counts towards the goal?

tranquil igloo
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sword for defending

plain flax
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You can get galaxy souls from upgraded dungeons (Qi quests) or trading 10 radioactive bars on the island on the last day or each month.

tough remnant
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Just spam bombs, eat food, and take any shaft or ladder the moment one's available

surreal scaffold
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oh cool

plain flax
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Gives a very good weapon upgrade.

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I prefer infinity hammer to sword, personally.

surreal scaffold
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yeah i feel like my weapons are kinda shit but they’re the best i’ve ever gotten

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my dwarf hammer has slime charmer or whatever it is and +2 speed

nimble turtle
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woot i got mermaid boots and a dwarf sword

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are mermaid boots better than space?

plain flax
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yeah

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Mermaid are the best all-around boots.

nimble turtle
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its my first time getting them

harsh bone
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its been like 6 or 7 weeks since i unlocked the walnut room and ive yet to see either the dangerous mines or skull cavern quests

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this is so cringe

surreal scaffold
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idk how to get the pirates to appear and it’s bugging me

unkempt domeBOT
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@surreal scaffold You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!

surreal scaffold
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ooh

nimble turtle
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ginger island even nights sunny day

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after the resort is unlocked

surreal scaffold
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so you have to go at night on even days?

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i kept checking when it was raining for some reason

nimble turtle
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yea

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i love hanging with the pirates šŸ™‚

tough remnant
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Even nights specifically when not raining IIRC

nimble turtle
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yep

buoyant lark
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cus yknow those pirates. theyre rlly worried about rain when they party indoors

nimble turtle
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lol

tough remnant
surreal scaffold
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do they have like a shop too?

lethal sequoia
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I'M GONNA CRY I JUST GOT THE RACCOON CUTSCENE

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Did I reset the day just so I could see it again? Why yes, yes I did.

atomic sand
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for catching legend II, is it the same spot as legend? is it any season as long as u have the quest active? will it still show the star on the fish to show its a legendary fish

white ridge
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Yes to all of those except the last one

woven tusk
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You can catch it multiple times as long as you still have the quest... Which means you can pull in a massive amount of money for each one you manage to land in three days.

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Legend II_(2)_final(v3.7).txt

white ridge
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Yeah

woven tusk
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Stick 'em in the smoker and powwww, money

cloud oyster
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now to retry until i get roe

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singleplayer btw

green kindle
woven tusk
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The actual release notes make it less deranged by including pickles and jelly in the same line.
CA knew what the players wanted to see, though

green kindle
vapid furnace
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This cat better not make me a horrible owner

woven tusk
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Cat got started without you

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Sit by the fire with a cat in your lap

vapid furnace
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Marnie won't believe me

buoyant lark
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plotting your downfall

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marnie got the cat after reviving it in the pet sematary and its Evil Now

dry lance
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Can you post post cc content here without spoilers?

olive patio
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no tags required it says

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so yes

dry lance
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Ok

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Banana split

mortal dragon
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do all items have aan equal chance of dropping from golden mystery boxes?

wooden oyster
mortal dragon
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i need an auto petter 😭 better be

wooden oyster
harsh plover
torpid garnet
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hello is it possible to trash ur advanced iridum rod

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iridium

bleak current
white ridge
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(I don't know)

torpid garnet
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well im wondering bc i only saw two other posts online abt it and i cant find mine šŸ˜” idk if i threw it away by accident

torpid garnet
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OUGHHHHHHHH

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pain

atomic sand
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tested it rn and yes it can be trashed but the other iridium tools can't yikes hopefully its patched soon

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also threw away my infinity blade

torpid garnet
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😭 dang it

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well thank u

wooden oyster
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I don't think that's something that he would patch? Not sure. Rods of all kinds have been able to be trashed before.

torpid garnet
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yeah but this one u can only get once from the mastery cave :(

white ridge
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You could just repurchase them from willy before though

atomic sand
wooden oyster
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Ah. Didn't know you can't get an advanced iridium rod a second time. Yeah, that's a problem.

bleak current
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The difference here is that other rod types can be bought again

torpid garnet
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yeah i went to the cave to try and claim it again but its not possible

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rip

wooden oyster
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I didn't say he can't. I just didn't know if he would. @atomic sand

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Had no idea you can't obtain a second one.

bleak current
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If you use mods you can spawn one in.

torpid garnet
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i did see the cjb item spawner mod so i might just dl that

bleak current
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It's worth reporting on the forums though just in case it could get patched later

wooden oyster
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Yeah that's a good idea. So iridium scythe? Can that be trashed too?

torpid garnet
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no

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just the rod and ig infinity blade like kc said

cloud oyster
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hopefully bro reset the day šŸ™

glacial zephyr
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anyone know how to display items in my house?

torpid garnet
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i dont know when i threw it out so its gone forever šŸ™

wooden oyster
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infinity blade can be re-obtained. So that's not a problem. Damn, that's frustrating. Fortunately, you're on PC. When 1.6 comes to console, I gotta be careful. Can't spawn them in with CJB.

cloud oyster
torpid garnet
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fr? man šŸ˜” ty for letting me know and yes.. be extra careful w this rod šŸ’”

atomic sand
torpid garnet
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no its ok, u cant trash the iridium scythe i tested it

glacial zephyr
cloud oyster
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place it down

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its furniture

atomic sand
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maybe overlooked bc other rods can be thrown and didnt notice

torpid garnet
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yeah definitely

atomic sand
glacial zephyr
wooden oyster
wooden oyster
woven tusk
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🄁

outer zinc
gray oriole
cloud oyster
austere sparrow
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what to do during feest of winta star

mental sail
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chat, exchange gifts, go home

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maybe buy stuff

glacial zephyr
buoyant lark
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oh thats SO purdy

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your Rock Room

rich lake
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I love it

mental sail
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love the tree, as if one of the displays just sprouted

signal raft
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get the meowmere
because of the sfx in the cutscene my mind switches to terraria mode
immediately try to use a farm warp totem like a magic mirror by picking it up and left clicking out of inventory

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may be a dumbass

glacial zephyr
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my whole whose is themed like this

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kinda just all the wizard stuff but its been taken over by nature and the junimos

gray oriole
wooden oyster
glacial zephyr
glacial zephyr
dry lance
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Table would go nice

fading geode
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hold up-
we got frog eggs and i had no idea?!?! AND it can follow you around??? oml i am so friggin happy froglalalawobbles froglalalawobbles froglalalawobbles

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ahhh theres even a void frogggg SDVpetfrog

gray oriole
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You can put the frog in a fish tank

supple zodiac
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Hello!

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I just noticed something odd

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opened my game

formal bronze
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Bookseller speed up book vs horses?

supple zodiac
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and on my way to click on concernedape

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there weas leaves going

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in the background

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and the icon changes to a happy concernedape

rich lake
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New rare launch screen

supple zodiac
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ohhh nice

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how rare?

fading geode
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me and sebby with our 87 frog children

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how rare is the frog egg? does it just drop from any monster or does it have to be specific

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ohhh wait i can only get frog eggs after combat mastery

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bummer

austere sparrow
silent island
mental sail
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yep, they're new (I know the door is just decoration and still waited for you to open it!)

fading geode
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Cyan_pain wait we have doors?

gray oriole
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Theyre stickers

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An indoor gate equivalent would be cool ngl

mental sail
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need to corral the mannequins

gray oriole
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Butterflies spawning indoors feels like a bug tho

short gulch
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0% tryhard 10 fishing by summer 11 y1 3 full days of only fishing sturgeon, bait maker OP

woven tusk
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Sturgeoning is gooooood money that early on

short gulch
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whithout tackle I was losing 1 every 10-15 catches but still was amazing

#

time to sell

woven tusk
#

Once you can get some Fish Smokers up and running, it gets even better.
And moreso with Artisan

sacred heart
#

Bruh the new update fizz is so busted

#

I spent 18mil and achieved perfection while only having 68% lol

buoyant lark
gray oriole
#

Preserving enchant feels like it might be good now maybe

#

With double tackle and more expensive bait it seems like a lot of money gets saved

gray oriole
#

More target bait than challenge bait

wooden oyster
#

deluxe worm bin has strong viability for deluxe bait. But challenge bait is pretty pricey.

#

Ah yeah, targeted bait for sure.

gray oriole
#

Lava eel bait is probably the prime example

#

Its like 784g lost per lava eel bait

wooden oyster
#

Right.

gray oriole
#

So you save nearly 400g everytime u cast a rod with preserving

wooden oyster
#

gold star smoked sells for 4200 right?

gray oriole
#

Plus tackle durability

wooden oyster
#

5800 for iridium. and yeah, tackles.

gray oriole
#

5880 but yeah

wooden oyster
#

Yeah, that's significant.

#

Better than a +1 on the rod tbh

wispy slate
wispy slate
wooden oyster
rose pine
rose pine
#

it absolutely is not

dry lance
#

It’s just as good as agriculturalist

rose pine
#

virtually everything you're selling later in the game is an artisan good

dry lance
#

Everything your growing is buffed by agriculturalist

rose pine
#

10% growth speed vs. a 40% increase in value

dry lance
#

It’s more than 10 most of the time

rose pine
#

and that increase in value also applies to things that have nothing to do with crops, like artisan goods produced by animal products

dry lance
#

Why do you want to make less money though?

rose pine
#

I... don't

#

that's not the point

#

the point is that Artisan makes you more money in virtually every case, making some of the other Farming skill professions an objectively bad choice by comparison

dry lance
#

Nerfing artisan means making less money

rose pine
#

it could be an artisan nerf or a buff to the other Farming professions, doesn't really matter that much to me which one

#

but the +40% price increase is pretty extreme I think for the amount of stuff it applies to

#

"artisan goods" is an extremely broad category and comprises most of the high-value goods in the game, so I think it could get away with being 20%, and even then it would be really really good

dry lance
#

Why do you want to make less money though?

gray oriole
rose pine
dry lance
gray oriole
#

For a lot of ppl, part of the satisfaction of playing games is from being fairly rewarded for their work

rose pine
#

I don't think it would make the game much slower at all

#

mid-late game SV has you making a lot of money as it is

#

but sure, if it's easier to wrap your brain around, buffing the other Farming professions could also do the job

#

+20% value for animal products doesn't really make much sense when it means you're giving up +40% value for artisan goods made from those same animal products, for example

#

smaller bonus for a smaller set of items, the best of which has large overlap with artisan goods anyway

gray oriole
rose pine
gray oriole
#

Ok then compare tiller to shepherd

rose pine
#

I get that you get Rancher earlier on, but that only matters for so long

gray oriole
#

Theyre also mutually exclusive

rose pine
#

I'm comparing the entirety of the Rancher track to the entirety of the Tiller track

#

going Tiller -> Artisan is simply better than going Rancher -> <anything>

gray oriole
#

Thats not true though

#

Artisan applies to a wider subset of items which makes it better for players who like spreading out their income streams

#

If you’re actually maximizing the value you get from the animal professions, shepherd and rancher produce more money for the same amount of space on your farm

#

Of course you can also just swap between the two and benefit from both

#

The bigger issue is probably that the skills on the animal branch’s usefulness is so narrowly applicable

gray oriole
#

Rancher is a x1.2 bonus

rose pine
#

Artisan is a 1.4 bonus

#

and you're turning your animal products into artisan goods anyway

buoyant tendon
#

and nowadays even your fish ...

rose pine
#

even if you're only making money off animals, you'd rather get a 40% bonus to the price of your cheese, cloth, and mayo than 20%

gray oriole
#

Shepherd/coopmaster is another 6.5% multiplier from boosting product quality, but only for ostriches, rabbits, and sheep

rose pine
#

if that 20% would even apply to all of those

gray oriole
#

Artisan goods from animal products get rancher applied

rose pine
#

that product quality doesn't matter a hell of a lot if you're making artisan goods from those things, which you are, because why wouldn't you

buoyant tendon
#

because many things are artisan goods

rose pine
rose pine
gray oriole
#

I listed those things in specific because the input quality affects the output quality

rose pine
#

I don't think that makes up for the difference between a 20% bonus and a 40% bonus, especially when that 40% bonus also applies to every artisan product made from animal goods

vapid furnace
#

Ooga Booga

gray oriole
#

Its a 1.28 multiplier vs 1.4 but i wasnt done

#

With shepherd applied

#

And only with shepherd applied

#

Sheep suddenly become the most profitable thing you can cram into your farm preperfection

tidal obsidian
#

do wild moss trees produce alot more moss

gray oriole
#

They boost the moss production of trees within a 5x5 area

tidal obsidian
#

oh thats nice

gray oriole
#

So u can put down a wild moss tree and then 8 trees in a ring around it for more moss

rose pine
#

so mahogany and moss trees drop seeds occasionally like normal trees do (by shaking/hitting them)?

gray oriole
#

yes

dusk glen
#

Do I have to wait till spring to get the pendant for marriage I'm on winter rn

gray oriole
#

rain totem

short cloud
#

If you have a rain totem you can use that

dusk glen
#

Where do I get one

#

Actually let me search it up real quick I'm using data rn it's slow

short cloud
#

You get the recipe at foraging level 9

dusk glen
#

It's expensive asf I'm brokie rn it's like better to wait till spring then craft it ong

#

I would hibernate but it's just waiting time

short cloud
#

yeah they can be a bit pricey to craft

dusk glen
#

I'll just farm one in the Skullcaverns

short cloud
#

You can also just do sc runs and other stuff too until spring

vapid furnace
#

... someone's gonna punch me (I have Dwarf Scroll I at home)

gray oriole
wooden oyster
gray oriole
#

if anyone's curious, artisan ostriches produce 4619g/week in mayo (659/day)
shepherd sheep produce 1042g/day (7299/week)
shepherd artisan sheep product 1216.5g/day (8515.5/week) (with a 10k fee whenever u need to swap to sell)

crude talon
#

i dont remember eilliot ever doing this?

gray oriole
#

not gonna count golden chickens

wooden oyster
mental sail
gray oriole
#

right

woven tusk
gray oriole
#

personally I still use artisan because i like variety in my farming

#

its more 'fun' imo

wooden oyster
white dust
wooden oyster
#

I’m in agreement with you to an extent. I think artisan isn’t as OP as people suggest. But I think the gap is there nonetheless.

gray oriole
high creek
#

It's mainly a thing to consider once you're to the point where you can go Months+ without selling items and still have money to spare.

gray oriole
#

the issue in swapping back and forth between shepherd and artisan is less about artisan being so strong and more that shepherd applies throughout the day, while artisan only applies when you're selling so they're not mutually exclusive states

wooden oyster
#

No but the reliance is there on artisan.

#

Artisan doesn’t rely on shepherd.

#

Shepherd relies on artisan.

gray oriole
#

not in this case no?

#

none of this works at all if you aren't using shepherd

#

sheep suck

wooden oyster
#

No I know. My point is at some point, you rely on artisan to sell the cloth right?

#

Part of the strat.

gray oriole
#

sure

#

but you could just not

#

and it'd still be bigger money than the next best option, by a lot

wooden oyster
#

No I agree with you. But that just furthers the gap.

gray oriole
#

the boost in come from swapping from artisan to shepherd is bigger than the gain from swapping shepherd to artisan

high creek
#

Something about saying the best animal in the game sucks just because it doesn't compete with the absolute best feels weird to me.

gray oriole
#

so shepherd is doing more work here

wooden oyster
#

The gap between the skills is there is what I’m getting at. Just not as canyon-like as people suggest.

gray oriole
high creek
#

I didn't. Just a random thought since I see this conversation a lot.

#

Sheep were good before 1.6 buffs, but people get put off by them because they start bad, and don't compete with other stuff

gray oriole
#

we're arguing about the impact of artisan vs shepherd for sheep farming

#

no one's arguing sheep are bad

#

i'm pointing that if you remove shepherd from the equation, they suck

#

because shepherd is more important than artisan here

wooden oyster
#

Personally I view it just as big a gap as botanist vs anything else on the foraging tree pre-1.6. The gap was wide enough.

#

I don’t think shepherd is bad by any means. And you have a point saying shepherd is more valuable in the strat. But I don’t think you even deny that there’s a gap in the value of the two skills.

woven tusk
#

Artisan is more powerful in solo
Shepherd gains a lot of value in co-op

rose pine
high creek
#

i think the big issue between the skills is that Shepard only impacts sheep and Ostrich, but nothing else. Artisan is just too broad. Makes Shepard not even worth considering until you're too the point where you aren't relying on Weekly profits.

agile dune
#

When the update for mobile

woven tusk
#

(because someone would already have Artisan)

wooden oyster
gray oriole
#

I don't think shepherd affects ostriches? SDVpufferthinkblob

white dust
#

The "problem" is that artistan enables almost any money making, but shepherd enables exactly 1

gray oriole
#

also you're just repeating the conversation now

white dust
#

It does, it makes ostriches gain friendship faster, not too significant

high creek
rose pine
gray oriole
#

that's not exclusive to shepherd technically

woven tusk
#

Ostriches do live in the barn though

gray oriole
#

rather than part of the shepherd profession, its an effect of the level 10 animal branch profession

rose pine
#

there's a reason people are stretching for edge cases, respec abuse, and extremely specific farm setups in order to make shepherd sound better

#

because in pretty much all other cases, artisan beats it by a significant margin

gray oriole
#

wait no

wooden oyster
high creek
gray oriole
#

I forgot coopmaster only affected coops

#

zzz

#

ignore me I did a potato

white dust
#

Shepherd is good but only if you go all in sheep. So it closes optionality without respeccing

wooden oyster
woven tusk
#

The GI farm can grow Ancient while your main farm does sheep, but... You swap to Artisan to sell down anyway, and you can just offload the wine then

white dust
rose pine
wooden oyster
gray oriole
rose pine
gray oriole
#

not a strawman

rose pine
#

yes, it is

gray oriole
#

you're trying to argue "using shepherd on the thing it affects" is a stretch case

rose pine
#

... no. Shepherd also affects other barn animals.

high creek
#

I wouldn't want him to change it now but tbh, I think it would have been better balance wise if items like CHeese/Mayo/Cloth etc WEREN'T Artisan products, and remained animal products

gray oriole
#

half of shepherd affects other barn animals

#

half its affect is exclusive to sheep

#

so the issue in this case is less about its power and more about how hyperspecific its usefulness is

#

its strong, but its also way too damn specialized

#

but that's not stretching it, that's literally what the profession does

rose pine
#

yes, but it's also weaker than artisan for most of what it applies to, which feels like a problem in itself

gray oriole
#

i don't think anyone has argued it isn't

rose pine
#

then I don't know what we're arguing about at this point

gray oriole
#

its been repeatedly brought up by like 5 people now that artisan's main thing is how it applies to everything

rose pine
#

yeah but it's not just that, it's that it's better for the cases where there's overlap as well

#

mayo, cheese, that kind of stuff

sullen sedge
#

is there no golden pumpkin at the end of the maze? i only got a prize ticket

gray oriole
high creek
#

Nerf artisan by removing Animal based goods. Move rancher buff to level 10, make it 40%
Level 5 perk is the 'become friends faster' perk

sullen sedge
gray oriole
#

odd years u get a pumpkin

rose pine
#

too many things are artisan goods, honestly. It covers pretty much ANY form of processing and the Artisan boost is very powerful

wooden oyster
gray oriole
#

part of the issue imo is also that artisan goods just ignore so many mechanics by ignoring input quality for most stuff

rose pine
#

even if Artisan specifically applied only to keg and jar products, it would still be really good

rose pine
high creek
#

Yep, Ancient/Starfruit fields would still be a the big go-to

rose pine
#

it's a pretty big design oversight

high creek
#

Hell, it wouldn't even hurt pigs much either since a lot of people just sell the truffles as is as well.

gray oriole
#

we actually have a new queen of moneymaking but the setup is so expensive that its pretty balanced

rose pine
#

at least I consider it one. Ideally, I think input quality should always have an effect on output, as a rule, to encourage you to always produce higher quality if you can

gray oriole
#

foraging is also in the same position as shepherd vs botanist as well, as a result

rose pine
#

I would be fine with the impact not being huge but I would prefer it to be something

wooden oyster
high creek
gray oriole
#

yes

wooden oyster
#

Foraging used to be gapped pre-1.6 too.

rose pine
wooden oyster
#

I argue worse of a gap than artisan and shepherd.

rose pine
#

what changed about foraging in 1.6?

high creek
#

Pickled Purple Mushrooms do go pretty hard (why wasn't being able to Pickle/Juice most forage mentioned anywhere btw?)

gray oriole
rose pine
#

what, you can pickle mushrooms now?

high creek
#

You sure can

gray oriole
#

you can pickle any produce with positive healing

wooden oyster
gray oriole
high creek
#

You can't juice mushrooms, but you can pickle them (not red ones)

#

You can also Pickle/Juice edible forage, like Winter Root and Yams

#

So winter seeds are a lot better for those "What do I do in winter?" people

rose pine
#

yams are vegetables anyway I think, so you could before?

gray oriole
#

so tapper's now in the same position as shepherd but even more hyperspecialized endgame niche

high creek
#

Snow Yams in particualr

#

not regular yams

rose pine
#

oh, tapper professional for mystic syrup?

wooden oyster
gray oriole
#

i'm just explaining it to him

white dust
#

Remember before 1.4 there was a profession that increased the sell price of wood lol. Now that one was bad

high creek
#

It doesn't quite compete with the top shelf, but smoking Lava Eels is pretty good now as well. New Rod means you can consistently get Iridium Quality.
I made about 150k in one day doing it... Which again, isn't quite up there, but considering how bad fishing was before it's nice to actually have it as a reasonable, chill option.

high creek
#

Forester yeah

#

Good change

gray oriole
rose pine
#

Or just Artisan?

high creek
#

Both

rose pine
#

oh that's something at least

gray oriole
#

lava eels is incredibly high money/day, but it also requires active action instead of mostly passive like farming is

rose pine
#

is there a way to reduce the trash you get in high-trash fishing spots like the mine lava?

wooden oyster
gray oriole
#

you fish in the volcano caldera

rose oxide
#

what do you guys use the dehydrators for? they dont seem to be good enough for starfruit or ancient fruit but idk what would work well in them

rose pine
#

yeah, not there yet

gray oriole
#

a single dehydrator works as fast as 12 preserve jars

high creek
#

Is lava eel bait worth it? It felt decent when I tried... But I don't know how the actual math works out code wise.

rose pine
#

haha I just remembered that rhubarb is inedible for some reason

#

also it's a fruit???

high creek
chilly bloom
gray oriole
#

currently experimenting with Preserving enchant

high creek
#

Like, 10 deydrators will get you through 200+ blueberry/cranberry crops before the end of the year.

rose pine
#

if anyone can tell me why rhubarb is considered a fruit by the game I'll give you a dollar

delicate magnet
rose pine
#

that tracks

chilly bloom
rose pine
#

and in Stardew Valley terms it means you're doing weird things like making wine out of it

gray oriole
#

Isnt it used ingame to make sugar

chilly bloom
#

Same way a tomato is used often in what is culturally accepted as a vegetables role in cooking

chilly bloom
rose pine
delicate magnet
rose pine
#

tomato being considered a vegetable makes more sense than rhubarb being considered a fruit

pine barn
#

I accidentally blew up my community champion trophy

chilly bloom
rose pine
#

since fruits are kind of a subset of vegetable, or at least close to it; a vegetable is basically "edible plant that isn't a fruit"

rocky arrow
#

rhubarb is made into compote = jelly = fruit, something like this?

gray oriole
#

Oh wait i was thinking of beets

rose pine
rocky arrow
#

it's a veggy but its not pickled

rose pine
#

you don't pickle and eat hops either

#

or grains

#

... actually maybe you can pickle grains, I don't know

gray oriole
rose pine
#

but amaranth juice sounds pretty bad

#

rhubarb being inedible is even stranger imo

gray oriole
#

So rhubarb wine is an irl food

rose pine
#

like, you can eat that stuff. It's food

rocky arrow
#

So, where the flip are onions

gray oriole
#

Apparently

rocky arrow
#

essential food

rose pine
chilly bloom
dusk glen
#

How do I get the 3th 5th 7th and 8th rarecrows

rose pine
#

because you can do that in SV and I doubt it's a pleasant experience

chilly bloom
rose pine
#

raw rhubarb isn't unheard of tbh, it's usually just eaten with sugar (or salt sometimes I think)

rose pine
#

I've done it, it works, it's just really tart on its own

buoyant tendon
#

i was reading through the profession discussion, and
to offer my two cents, i think it'd be kinda nice if professions for "just more money" didnt exist, but rather every level 5 profession came with a "this type of item sells for more the higher level you are in this skill"

gray oriole
chilly bloom
gray oriole
#

Marinaded hop shoots is a thing apparently

rose pine
#

they do? I wasn't aware of that. Interesting, I assumed they'd be way too bitter

high creek
# dusk glen How do I get the 3th 5th 7th and 8th rarecrows

Uh, I don't know which are which...

but...
Orange face/Metal bear from Museum
Ghibli Scarecrow from Fall Fair
Alien from Casino
Long Haird girl from Flower Dance
Witch from Halloween.
Snowman from Traveling cart/ice festival
Dwarf from... well, dwarf.

rose pine
#

oh, maybe a different part of the plant then

gray oriole
rose pine
#

"hops" usually means the flowering portion

buoyant tendon
gray oriole
#

For fishing in particular the issue is more about crab pots not having been updated in ages id say

#

Theyre pretty much stuck as an earlygame thing with zero progression systems or room for improvement

#

If they were actually viable, i could see some situations where theyd be worth considering for water heavy farms

rose pine
#

they make crafting and using them more convenient but not really better

rose oxide
forest lichen
#

really stupid question but how tf do i get juice again>

rose oxide
high creek
gray oriole
#

But the rest of fishing doesnt interact with them

forest lichen
#

OH MY GOD IM DUMB

#

thsnkyou

gray oriole
#

In 1.6 they got a small buff by allowing deluxe bait to reduce garbage chance and improve quality

high creek
#

There's also the book for 25% more.

#

Crabpots are a weird spot for me becasue... they do suck... But they also go on tiles you can't use for anything else anyways... so... should they be good?

gray oriole
#

Imagine if you could upgrade the pot, or modify it, or apply other baits

#

Or put more bait to refill less often

high creek
#

I still spam a bunch of them mid-late game anyways, because unless I'm smoking eels I don't need angler after spring.

gray oriole
#

Leaving water tiles and thus river farm the one farm lacking

#

The one and sole thing river farm has got going for it is the free smoker for earlygame speed/challenge runs

high creek
#

Starting with a smoker goes pretty hard though for catfishing

#

+bait maker

gray oriole
#

Wish u could put fish ponds on water or some shit

high creek
#

Give it a more Fish Farm aesthetic, where it's netted off areas in the water, instead of just a stone square.

woven tusk
fossil kelp
#

hey does anyone know any good ways to get the 3 types of jellies (cave/sea/river,) i looked on the wiki and it said that the training rod on ginger island was good but i tried it and i've gotten nothing but trash

fossil kelp
#

i've been fishing for several days with lucky lunches and i've still gotten barely any

woven tusk
#

So you bring two rods

woven tusk
#

Cast with Training to try for jelly. If/when you get trash, switch to the real rod and catch a fish. Then switch back to Training.

woven tusk
#

If you are fortunate enough for spare copies of Jewels of the Sea, the Bookseller will trade three of a random jelly for it

fossil kelp
#

oh well there we go, immediately after the fish i got a jelly

fathom saffron
#

I'm hoarding books I get now

fossil kelp
#

tysm

woven tusk
#

Btw cave jelly does not require such stupid shenanigans

#

Mine B100F doesn't use the same fishing programming

#

You can just cast normally

fossil kelp
#

yeah i have like 3 lava eel ponds going so i'm good on that for now

broken portal
#

ive had really good river jelly luck in the desert pond, im not sure if it actually is better though

fathom saffron
#

my lava eel gives me cave jelly šŸ˜„

worthy oak
#

what are the best fruit for the dehydrator besides cranberries and blueberries? my ancient fruit are for kegs, and starfruit are for kegs too

#

what about strawberries and rhubarb? how are ppl processing them now in 1.6? selling them raw? dehydrating them? making them into wine? jelly?

tidal axle
#

like its better to process items than not to, but jarring/kegging them is always going to be better

#

hell, with certain fertilizer, it might be worth it to sell them raw

worthy oak
#

hmm interesting

fathom saffron
#

I mostly dehydrate mushrooms

dry lance
fathom saffron
#

but because I have 33 dehydrators I need 165 stack of any item

dry lance
#

Strawberries would work well

tidal axle
fathom saffron
#

sometimes I do the cranberries

#

oh I do if I don't have enough fruit for my preserve jars

woven tusk
#

Dehydrators are weaker than kegs/jars, their advantage is their insane speed in comparison to those

tidal axle
fathom saffron
#

I mostly dehydrate morel and that golden one

#

purple if I have enough

#

otherwise common

woven tusk
#

If you have many fruit trees, those are decent picks for dehydrators (unless they have reached Iridium quality)

fathom saffron
#

it's just a quick money maker seeing as I'm on a self challange where anything I ship must be 100+

#

oh I have fruit trees, just not enough for 33 dehydrators yet

#

and I decided to redo my mushroom log set up

#

smaller, and mystic tree

woven tusk
#

Can magma caps be pickled?

fathom saffron
#

it's the mystic tree that's hard

#

not sure I haven't tried

#

do they give any + benefits?

worthy oak
#

thanks for the advice everyone!

gray oriole
worthy oak
#

are there any good layout examples for mushroom logs actually

fathom saffron
#

I've forgotten what benefits or negatives

woven tusk
#

Then I'd jar magma caps over dehydrating them

fathom saffron
#

uhh

gray oriole
#

if it has positive healing and is produce, it can be pickled

broken portal
#

dehydrating magma caps is not the play

gray oriole
#

not aware of any exceptions

broken portal
#

ever

woven tusk
fathom saffron
#

I'm following this but it is huge, I shrunk it down now

#

not my pic

#

it's from reddit

woven tusk
gray oriole
#

weird looking setup

fathom saffron
#

you can tap the trees

woven tusk
#

Quarry and desert probably... Wonder where else

fathom saffron
#

and it's relatively easy to collect

#

this is my shrunk down, in progress

gray oriole
#

speaking of logs

#

pre-mystic mushroom log optimization is a mess

#

esp if you throw moss into the mix

broken portal
fathom saffron
#

yes

gray oriole
#

yes

fathom saffron
#

and I don't care that my crops are weird set up

#

I just like crops

#

oh I used the treasure totem? thing, the new lilac totem from one of the mastery's on GI and it was so good

#

which I don't have the farm set up yet

fathom saffron
#

on GI so like I got a lot of snake vertabrae

#

and geodes

#

I love that thing

tidal axle
#

new layout i think

fathom saffron
#

ooh

#

I still haven't seen one of those yet

woven tusk
#

It occurs to me that their being normal quality is not so bad even if you have Botanist

Just make oil out of them and Artisan picks up the slack!

jovial dune
#

is there a way to sort a dresser?

gray oriole
#

don't think so

#

i wonder if burglar works on truffle crabs

vapid furnace
#

I'm just imagining that one unfortunate soul who had a 0 truffle crab

woven tusk
#

Sounds like it might do a "roll a chance to drop a truffle, over and over until failure" thing

vapid furnace
#

If I understand this right, there is a 0.01% chance it drops nothing

woven tusk
#

Oh wow

#

0.00045 rate, or 0.045% if I did the math correctly

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To drop no truffles

vapid furnace
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Yeah, I knew it wasn't 0.1% because the other 50% and 10% chances also have to fail, therefore decreasing the chance even further

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I guess you can also include the other drops as well, not just the truffle related stuff

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Kill a crab, nothing but a prismatic shard

woven tusk
grim shard
vapid furnace
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I should also mention, the 0.01% I threw out was either me typing out what I remembered before finding the wiki page again, or simply me adding an extra 0 because I felt like the chance of 0.1% was too high / looked weird

green lagoon
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Does a world that’s been created before the update still get it?

maiden oar
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is it normal for day 2 of the desert festival to be devoid of any pelican town npcs for the whole day SDVpuffersquint

vapid furnace
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I can't think of anything that would prevent it

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Maybe if you have terrible luck, all the NPC's that would be there went to Ginger Island instead

maiden oar
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im playing it modded but just to be absolute sure it wasnt, like, noclip or something-- i dont even have ginger island unlocked on this file SDVsobastian

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-- so basically double checked to make sure i didnt have anything enabled that would mess with npc routing but my god my luck must just be bad SDVpuffersweats

maiden oar
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also reloaded the day and tried to use console commands every ingame hour to hurry the npcs to their scheduled spots but nothing

gray oriole
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Thats.. weird

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Are you on a new or old save

maiden oar
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new

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because god DAMN everything looked normal the first day

gray oriole
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y2?

maiden oar
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y1

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i. have a lot fo content mods. no sve though.

gray oriole
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that's definitely a mod conflict then

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if it persists even after day resets then its not an isolated glitch

maiden oar
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maybe it's like this because no one expects you to fuckin have the bus ready by festival time SDVpuffersquint

gray oriole
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chances are one of your mods modified NPC schedules for that day

gray oriole
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it's a strat people can and sometimes do use now for speedruns

maiden oar
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holy shit

broken portal
gray oriole
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i'm like 90% sure one of your mods overrode the day's schedule with something else

maiden oar
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aight, (cracks knuckles) time to start fucking around with disabling mods

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three of them

broken portal
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1/125 chance CRGoblinFire

maiden oar
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MAXIMUM TUNNEL DRIFTING

last stag
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Triple iridium legendary fish OR Legendary fish roe... decisions

maiden oar
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oh this is gonna be wild if it turns out to be es or rsv messing with npc schedules

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i keep thinking it's not happy birthday because day 2 lands on trinnie's birthday, that makes no fuckin sense

last stag
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Getting both is hard have to get a perfect catch

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Sorry I meant original legends not their descendants

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The only way to get triple is with a perfecct catch

maiden oar
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triple iridium........

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the forbidden infinity fish

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that's wild though

last stag
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right so you have to get a perfect catch AND get a chest AND hope the chest is in a spot were the Legendary fish is

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AND hope the chest has roe

broken portal
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im assuming double cork bobber, desert trader, master enchant, and qi seasoned seafoam pudding?

last stag
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it's always iridium if you get a perfect catch

broken portal
last stag
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has been the 20ish times I have caught

broken portal
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perfect catch increases quality by one, so it has to be naturally gold

maiden oar
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bruh i have never once gotten an iridium anglerfish

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only gold at best

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on a perfect catch

last stag
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are you not doing a max cast?

broken portal
gray oriole
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does anyone know where damage calculations are handled in the files

last stag
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yes but the legends it is

maiden oar
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that would explain why i got the gold one that one time.