archived-update-spoilers

[west blade]

different letter

[tidal yacht]

thats weird, ive gotten that letter but i dont remember what it is

[west blade]

i got 1 heart with him too so not that

[gray oriole]

This is the mail for getting a fishing rod

[arctic crest]

@tough remnant although it's modded quite a bit so not really legit, my GI by day 12 went smoothly and I started to rush for mastery as well. My limiting factor ended up being farming.
I was doing so many SC runs that mining and combat went up well, and the calico event let me purchase so many books for foaging exp that I was just left with farming exp that I haven't really been able to get asap cause I was busy in other areas.

Thought I'd give you an update cause I got so much advice from you before, thanks ❤️

[strange pulsar]

should i cut my mossy tree or wait for somethinghappen ?

[velvet epoch]

you can harvest the moss with a scythe

[tidal yacht]

yeah its this one

[west blade]

i am dumb sorry

too much wine

[strange pulsar]

no i mean mossy tree from mossy seed

[west blade]

but thx for figuring it out xD

[velvet epoch]

let me check the wiki

[untold wave]

you get mossy seed from the fern trees in green rain

[velvet epoch]

i dont think anything happens if you just leave it be

[terse hazel]

is there a way to know which recipies cause the 2% ? I don't want to buy the 1% thing

[keen needle]

How common are sturgeon again? I have a sturgeon pond and a bait maker and want to know if they'd be profitable to catch in the summer and fall with sturgeon bait (still early-mid game at year 2; just unlocked the greenhouse)

[tidal yacht]

yeah go in your collections -> food tab and the ones you havent cooked will be greyed out

oh sorry im blind

go into settings and activate advanced crafting settings

for that one

and then you can see "Number crafted:" on every recipe

[vapid furnace]

You know, I should've known the glacierfish would've been trivial for me after catching the Jr's pretty easily... then proceeding to go overkill on the real thing with Seafoam instead of DotS, and throwing a cork bobber on there as well as my usual trap bobber.

[arctic crest]

tbf, if I see "recipe" in a post, I'm thinking cooking as well haha

[untold wave]

let me send a website

https://mouseypounds.github.io/stardew-checkup/#sec_Cooking

[vapid furnace]

The casks after unlocking the cellar might count

[arctic crest]

they're looking for crafting recipes, not cooking

[untold wave]

open the website

its not cooking

that’s just what tab i was on lol

[vapid furnace]

The flower basket and Jack-O-Lanterns are the only event-locked recipes if memory serves me right

[tidal yacht]

advanced crafting settings solves it as well

[untold wave]

correct

[modest cobalt]

mushwoom

[vapid furnace]

The special order recipes are always an option, like the solar panel

Or the warp totems from the various traders.

[drowsy steeple]

is it more profitable to catfishing with targeted bait and smoker vs SC dives day 20

[vapid furnace]

The Dwarf has weathered flooring, Krobus has the wicked statue

[maiden fiber]

Cool mod

[icy obsidian]

Isn’t there a key to drop items from your hotbar now?

[modest cobalt]

is it from a mod?

[tidal yacht]

yeah is it like uuhh shift right click? iirc

[vapid furnace]

The mushroom itself isn't

The texture the mushroom tree has, is.

[icy obsidian]

So the mushroom 😭

[vapid furnace]

Usually, it just looks like a singular, giant red mushroom with a somewhat skinny stem and flat red top

[modest cobalt]

ohh i was gonna say i thought the mushroom tree was a mod i got worried

[vapid furnace]

You can throw a tapper on it

And I believe it dies in winter, but revives in spring if the stump is left alone.

[supple cloak]

hey has the new update added much/any content that you miss out on with joja? i want to go joja but dont want to miss out

[vapid furnace]

I would show you what the mushroom tree looks like in vanilla, but... slight issue

[keen needle]

tree too smol

[drowsy steeple]

if you cut it down does the stump grow back

like does the game know

[mellow atlas]

finally got it

adventurer's guild last request

[gray oriole]

Congrats

[untold wave]

paper rexes were rough

[maiden fiber]

Yeah lmao 😭

[mellow atlas]

thx

[vapid furnace]

The Glacierfish Jr is the same price as the Radioactive Carp, that's a scam

[maiden fiber]

Glacierfish needs a price buff lmao

That mf trickier than Legend sometimes

[mellow atlas]

finally combat 9

you repeat the qi quest for money farm?

with leg fish

hopefully ||mastery|| unlocks by the time Fall rolls up

[icy obsidian]

You don’t need to spoiler here haha

[mellow atlas]

oh I thought I was in #stardew-spoilers lmao mb

[terse hazel]

thanks

[terse hazel]

thanks a lot

[velvet epoch]

does the green jellyfish do anything now or is it still just a cool thing

[mellow atlas]

i feel like its more common nowadays

cause i saw it for 2 years straight

[flat sedge]

in the Dance of the Jellyfish event? as far as i'm aware it's always there, but it doesn't do anything

[mellow atlas]

Nah, its just to chill and listen to the banger

[tough remnant]

Yeah it's "rare" in that there's only one, but it shows up near you every year

[flat sedge]

^ that

[crude talon]

the blue bow looks so cute on the white kitty

[woven tusk]

Tangentially: I didn't realize until this weekend that the autumn fair music is a remix of the title screen theme

I was like, "Wait. I only hear this song once per in-game year, and it's been several real-life years since I last played. Why do I know this melody!?"

[vapid furnace]

Which, in turn, is Grandpa's theme

[woven tusk]

Maybe it's the Stardew Valley main theme, then

[vapid furnace]

Also, I think there are other places where you hear the music, like the egg festival

[woven tusk]

I should check it out

[vapid furnace]

But the fall festival is the most prominent one, and for good reason according to this one Youtube comment I saw

Because it has Grandpa's theme, which is shared with the title screen music, it can be interpreted as the most important day to show off your accomplishments in the Valley, which was only possible because of that one seemingly minor action that your Grandpa did all those years ago.

The single, sealed envelope, with a purple wax stamp on it.

[candid kraken]

what's your favorite trinket

[wanton ocean]

How do we get trinkets?

[candid kraken]

after you get combat mastery

they drop randomly from certain enemies

[tough remnant]

Talk of music reminds me that it's still impossible to complete the jukebox AFAIK

Some music is mutually exclusive

[flat sedge]

is mastery some task you have to do or is it just pushing buttons after you get lvl 10?

also is there a point where you stop getting mystery boxes, or are those just random finds forever now

[vapid furnace]

Mastery is like a big experience bar that you unlock after reaching level 10 in all skills

Any experience you gain now will go towards that big bar. Once you fill it up, you get what I call a "Mastery Token" which you can use inside the mastery cave to master a skill of your choosing

[flat sedge]

oh but you gotta do that as many times as there are skills, then?

[vapid furnace]

You'll eventually get all five skills mastered, don't worry

[flat sedge]

fascinating

[vapid furnace]

Starts off at 10k experience needed, and goes up 5k every time you get a mastery token

If I recall correctly

Mastering a skill is basically a weird mixture of a regular level up with the recipe unlocks, alongside a passive boost of some kind like you'd get at level 5 / 10

Maybe even a tool, similar to how the better fishing rods were locked behind your fishing skill

[flat sedge]

INTERESTING. Okay

[arctic crest]

Mastery is a cool system. The exp required to get to the nest levels feels like both too much and not enough all at once.
By the time most people reach mastery, they're prob gonna have loads of crops for money that will give them so much exp they could max the 5 mastery levels.
but some people, and I've especially noticed in co-op, can take really long to get even to the second mastery level by the time they get mastery

[flat sedge]

SQUID FEST

[pseudo pike]

any tips fishing jellies? i need sea and cave

[maiden fiber]

Luck foods

[tidal yacht]

it felt really balanced when i played it multiplayer, i like where its at

[pseudo pike]

my luck is boosted but its so hardddd :(

[tough remnant]

Easy tip is just lots of luck food. Hard tip, there's a strategy you can use because Jelly RNG is weird and semi-predictable

It's not fully random it turns out, I looked into the code earlier today and devised strategies for River and Sea Jellies. Cave Jelly is weirder though

[arctic crest]

It feels good in multiplayer, but it's jsut a stark contrast from singleplayer that it can get a little frustrating (at least on my 3p world. Idk about 2, 4, or even 8 p)

[arctic crest]

Gotta make a doc to share with people :p

[tough remnant]

For Sea Jelly farming, you need two fishing rods, one normal and one training, plus as many luck buffs as is practicable. Also access to Ginger Island is preferable, otherwise Beach in Summer will do. Evening also works but is less good

[arctic crest]

Cave is easy, just floor 100 in the mines. Eat the first cave jelly you get if you dont have any other food luck buffs, and kep on going

[tough remnant]

Actual strategy is to fish with training rod until you get trash. Once you get trash, this means your Jelly RNG is locked on a bad value, and the only way to fix it is by catching a fish. Seaweed won't do it, and you can't catch Jelly.

[pseudo pike]

ive been trying floor 20 and just checked out 100 got it right away lol

[tough remnant]

So then you swap out to regular rod, cast at max length, catch a fish, then swap back to training rod until you get trash again

[keen needle]

apparently better luck == what would've been trash is now cave jelly?

[tough remnant]

Yeah Mines 100 is weird

It skips all the usual fishing procedures entirely

[keen needle]

fuck it lava eel pond grafting time

[pseudo pike]

im gonna try this now tysm!

[tough remnant]

And just goes "Is it Lava Eel? No, then is it Cave Jelly? No, then it's trash."

[tough remnant]

You still want luck buffs BTW

[pseudo pike]

got them

[keen needle]

also max luck day recommended

[tough remnant]

Actually irrelevant

[keen needle]

fr?

[compact arch]

whats the funniest kinda farm you could make with automate? i'm thinking crab pot spam in riverland

[keen needle]

kegville (default farm)

[compact arch]

but thats just how i play without mods 😔

[keen needle]

imo automate makes kegs bearable

[tough remnant]

Can automate harvest crops?

[keen needle]

no unless you have a mod that lets autograbbers harvest crops

maybe idk

[tough remnant]

Ah well, Pickled Tea Leaves is out of the question then lol

Pickled Tea Leaves was a hilariously "technically competitive with Ancient Fruit Wine" farm in 1.4, but cause you could grow tea bushes in garden pots without water

[pseudo pike]

it worked!!

[tough remnant]

Letting you fill dozens of sheds with potted tea plants

[tough remnant]

Good to have third party confirmation lol

[keen needle]

idk it could work for tea because tea in a garden pot is a bush, which automate... automates the harvest of tea leaves?

[tough remnant]

And then hilariously the most profitable way to sell tea is to pickle it

[compact arch]

hmm

[keen needle]

pickled tea leaves is a thing in myanmar though and apparently it tastes good?

[compact arch]

i was thinking of doing meadowlands but automate doesn't allow for much comedy there

[maiden fiber]

I love being a vanilla player

[compact arch]

i used to feel that way but mods are such a power trip

once you use the tractor at 100% power, its hard to go back

[modern sorrel]

If I install mods will I still have achievement ?

[tough remnant]

I doubt

I suppose a fun 1.6 potential would be big dino farm

Since there's now the artifact book which triples sell price of dino eggs

[flat sedge]

you can already do so much with numbers in the game file, if I do mods, I'd have a hard time not being god lmao

[modern sorrel]

I miss automate mod soooo much

[tough remnant]

Only mod I've ever used was a custom farm map I made myself to make the game harder lol

I wanted a super tiny farm for extra challenge doing 2 Year Perfection, and all the existing tiny farm challenge maps I could find were both ugly and overly kind

[scenic sphinx]

They are the 2nd leats profitable animal now instead of the least profitable

[dapper mica]

I stopped getting autopetters from the skull cavern this update. I used to get one or two per mining run.

Is that just luck or did smth changes

[tough remnant]

Yeah, Dino > Duck now iirc

They still lose to Goat though

[dapper mica]

What’s least profitable lol?

[scenic sphinx]

Duck

[proven cosmos]

oh

[dapper mica]

Ah

[proven cosmos]

gives me an excuse to sell them now !

[tough remnant]

Hilariously though, if you're selling raw produce only, which you might need to do in some challenge runs, Dinos are actually #3 now

Actually, #4 with Shepherd

[barren pulsar]

Where do goats rank vs cows

[tough remnant]

Much worse

Cows genuinely good, goats suck

[barren pulsar]

its the every other day thing isnt it

[nova flame]

yooo i got the rare easter egg on the concernedape screen!

[tough remnant]

Yeah, the produce isn't worth twice as much

Void Chicken worse than regular Chicken as soon as it starts producing large eggs

That it does

[primal garnet]

Just wish Dino's sell price was fixed to be comparable to pigs or ostriches. So silly that resurrected ancient animals are worth less than a sheep.

[tough remnant]

Tragically though, when I was doing some maths on the optimal animal to grind cash with the Max Waivers challenge, Dinosaurs came in second

[manic notch]

Are the new mastery related items like mystic tree syrup required for perfection?

[west olive]

are pigs worth rushing like super early? For y2 perfection. Like early summer/late spring early off fishing grind

[tough remnant]

Yes

[pseudo rune]

The ducks are so cute, it doesnt matter that they arent bringing in any money. All they have to do is swim around in my lil lake and its all good

[maiden fiber]

Yes

[scenic sphinx]

I’m guessing sheep are 1st

[tough remnant]

Pigs pay off pretty fast yeah, although really all the money comes from starfruit plantations on GI

[manic notch]

Ok thanks

[tough remnant]

Nah, actually was cows

Sheep suck when you can't get shepherd, and Max Waivers means you're only allowed to get 1 skill level up total

[modern sorrel]

But they can swim ! Therefore they beat all others animals

[tough remnant]

And AF is both less convenient and less profitable than dino eggs when you can't make kegs to process it

[maiden fiber]

You’re saying with animal crackers Dino is most profitable coop animal?

[tough remnant]

If you can't process anything and don't have golden chickens yet

Yes

[maiden fiber]

Sweeeet

[primal garnet]

No processing is a pretty big caveat, I think

[tough remnant]

Sure is lol

[mellow atlas]

i just saw a raccoon

[woven tusk]

Playing on the beach farm and watching my ducks swim off into the ocean

It made me a little nervous I wouldn't be able to close them into the coop in time one night and they'll swim out of petting range the next morning

[maiden fiber]

What about processing @tough remnant ?

[tough remnant]

They're better than ducks now

But worse than rabbits

[modern sorrel]

And if you process everything but Dino egg ?

[woven tusk]

How? No skill levels

No machines

[tough remnant]

They're better than rabbits were, but loom got buffed in 1.6

[primal garnet]

I need to recheck my numbers when I get home, but IIRC chickens are still your best coop money before golden chickens.

[tough remnant]

Same as what I'm saying now. You don't process dino egg anyway, with artifact book, it sells for more raw

[west olive]

are any of the other animals (not sheep/pigs) worth it in y1 when you're scaling up? Or just hard push fishing and SC diving

[tough remnant]

Correct

[buoyant lark]

so i shldnt bother with having void chickens?

[primal garnet]

Sheep and Ostriches are GOATed. Goats are not.

[pseudo rune]

The raccoon is the best addition to the game ever. I wish there was a raccoon-pet or.. more of a personality you could interact with in a cuter manner ❤️

[woven tusk]

Theoretically you could get Dehydrators without skill levels but the question becomes how you get anything to put into it, without gaining Farming or Foraging EXP

[west olive]

or a better question is what are the best early game scaling money makers

[scenic sphinx]

It’s still better to process regular quality eggs if you have artisan but silver and above sell raw

[stone igloo]

the butterflies are so pretty

[tough remnant]

Chicken and cow for cooking ingredients

[scenic sphinx]

But using coopmaster you won’t get any regular quality anyway

[west olive]

to sell?

[modern sorrel]

I mean, if I process all my eggs into mayonnaise Dino will still be more profitable than chicken ?

[tough remnant]

True, I was mainly talking max friendship when you never get no-star eggs

[primal garnet]

Most of the coop animals are relatively balanced against each other, especially when you consider the gift value of iridium rabbit's feet. But ducks got screwed.

[tough remnant]

Nope, chicken wins

[woven tusk]

I think they're still talking about max-waiver challenge where you have to do as little as possible

[buoyant lark]

i just like having a variety of animals in the coop

[broken portal]

void chicken wins technically

[buoyant lark]

rn i think i have two regular chickens, two ducks, two void chickens, and two dinosaurs

[modern sorrel]

So Dino aren’t #2 if you take into consideration processing and artisan

[scenic sphinx]

Gold star mayo sell for more than void mayo

[tough remnant]

That was answering a different question

[open basin]

I just got a fried egg shirt from a dust sprite and I'm out of words

[finite plover]

I'm trying really hard to not spoil my twin about the raccoons in the new update, they love raccoons and they play on Switch so they don't have 1.6 yet
I'm using every fiber of my being to not tell my twin that their favorite animal is in the game

[open basin]

Fried egg???

[buoyant lark]

you stole it from him

[finite plover]

What can I say, they have an eye for fashion

[buoyant lark]

he loves fried eggs

[tough remnant]

Yeah, the caveat was specifically if you can't process anything. They're 2nd worst if you can.

[modern sorrel]

Thanks !

[open basin]

My defense in court is that my sword slightly slipped into his pocket, I am sorry 😔

[uneven lake]

i forgor how to get this

[open basin]

Unironically, dust sprite fashion is fire

[west olive]

@tough remnant I'm more confused why cooking ingredients are strong early. Self use or are we selling off the finished product?

[modern sorrel]

I think I will install automate mod . I play a vanilla farm but this one mod is so much convenient. It’s a chore to put every eggs into mayonnaise machine each morning !

[manic notch]

There's a passage on the top left I think???

[tough remnant]

To use. If you're going for perfection, you need a bunch of eggs and milk, which require animals.

[manic notch]

I might be wrong

[primal garnet]

Cows are better money than goats unless you're aging the cheese. And cow cheese can be used in cooking where goat's can't. If you just want money, pigs are the best but require un-grassed pasture space.

Now, Sheep and Ostriches are both great barn money with less effort than pigs and not negatively affected by grass.

[amber frost]

ok after some not so conclusive testing I'm guessing that weapons cannot get more than one stat buff from dragontooth enchants

[uneven lake]

found it thanks.

[primal garnet]

I also maintain that ostriches count as dinosaurs, and should be allowed on a dino-only run. It's science.

[west olive]

Yeah, but can't that wait until y2? Or late y1

[manic notch]

👍

[woven tusk]

By that logic, wouldn't every bird in the coop also count

Rabbits don't because they're not birds

[primal garnet]

I accept this.

[pseudo rune]

Ostriches - dinobird, so ye

[open basin]

Is it cause pigs can't find truffles on grass? I'm not familiar with pig mechanics ngl

[finite plover]

Also I discovered that with the new fireworks in the casino, they're now the most profitable way to turn Qi coins into gold (200 Qi to 50g each), only caveat is you can only get 60 each day but if you buy 60 and sell them you convert 12,000 Qi coins into 3,000g

[solemn haven]

naw its cause ostriches are a-holes

[primal garnet]

Yes. Tall grass will cut into your truffle production and make it harder to see the ones they make.

[woven tusk]

So're chickens

[buoyant lark]

gambling for a profit

[open basin]

Tbh Ostriches does look and feel more like a dinosaur tho

[woven tusk]

And velociraptors were maybe the size of a big goose

[finite plover]

A very small profit that I initially miscalculated but a profit nonetheless

[solemn haven]

ya but im confident i can take a chicken in a fight. ostrich not so much

[primal garnet]

I'm really close to abandoning my pigs for Ostriches at this point. Tired of having to pick up truffles every day.

[chilly bloom]

That’s a very large goose you’re comparing it to

[woven tusk]

I feel like this logic led to a lot of the deaths in Jurassic Park

[open basin]

Oh, tall grass? I thought it was about like, the normal grass ones where the tall, animal edible grass couldn't grow
If they can still find truffles on top of those normal ones, then planning the farm just turned out to be easier than I thought

[pseudo rune]

A chicken-sized ostrich, or.. an ostrich-sized chicken?

[solemn haven]

lol for real tho

like jurassic park woulda succeeded if they just did herbivores

[buoyant lark]

you can step on a chicken sized ostrich

an ostrich sized chicken would hurt you

[tough remnant]

It can yeah, you can really get all the buff food you need from Serpents dropping Spicy Eel

[pseudo rune]

You could train it to be your mount tho. Chickens can be friendly

[open basin]

While I was already aware of that, the only game I've seen where they actually show it was Paleo Pines and it was an amazing experience lol

[west olive]

if just trying to scale income as fast as possible, its pretty much just fishing spring y1 into starfruit spam summer right

or there are other (fun) paths

[primal garnet]

Yes. They can produce truffles on "grassy" tiles (the tiles you can't till). But the tile has to be completely unoccupied. Hay grass occupies the tile and prevents truffle diggin'. Which means you have to feed them (and any animals in the same pasture) hay instead of grass. Some people care about that because it cuts into profits a bit.

[scenic sphinx]

Fishing into skull cavern into starfruit

[buoyant lark]

just gotta get all that profit for the vault bundle

[tough remnant]

Damn, I didn't know that velociraptors had disjointed cubes floating above their heads at all times. That's gotta be a display feature to attract mates, right?

😛

[solemn haven]

might just load up on truffle oil to have then sell all my pigs

everytime i process a truffle another digs one up

so tedious

[tough remnant]

I mean, fastest is SC spam rather than Fishing spam

But otherwise yes

[open basin]

Aah I see, ty for the explanation ! My plan was to have a different barn for the pigs and cows so I think that'd be a breeze to plan fosho

[woven tusk]

It is more clear what that is in Light Mode, but I would understand not wanting to do that

Maybe opening in browser would put a bright background in

[west olive]

and just sell the gems/iridium bars right

[solemn haven]

upgrade trash to iridium to sell junk during run too

if really looking to maximize profit

[woven tusk]

How much trash is necessary to profit over the cost of the trashcan upgrades?

[tough remnant]

Not much

Trashcan upgrades are half price compared to everything else

[chilly bloom]

Not too much tbh, they’ll make profit just from excess stuff on sc runs fast

[soft wasp]

If you want to minmax gold per in-game time spent rather than real time then the casino is technically the best option. It'll just take a good while irl lol

[chilly bloom]

Not anymore

[soft wasp]

Oh? How so? Some of the new content?

[tough remnant]

Casino exploit patched

[soft wasp]

Patched outright?

[chilly bloom]

1.6 capped buying anything you can turn to gold

[tough remnant]

Sellable items in store limited to 20 stock now

[soft wasp]

Huh

[solemn haven]

not much since you get so much junk you wont keep in SC and also you can use the upgraded trashcan while its being upgrade so theres no downtime

[soft wasp]

Not sure if I fully get the reason for that nerf. It wasn't all that useful for anyone besides challenge runners

[chilly bloom]

You use the old cab while it’s being upgraded not the upgraded one

[chilly bloom]

A lot of the nerfs were weird like that.

[tough remnant]

I'm glad it's gone personally, it was generally detrimental for the challenge running scene IMO

[soft wasp]

The void mayo fishing one hurt me deeply

[solemn haven]

ya thats what i meant but still you have access to the previous upgrade during new upgrade

[chilly bloom]

Yes

[solemn haven]

which is the only tool you can do that (besides owning two pans)

[tough remnant]

It just became this extra caveat of "oh yeah and no casino exploit" tacked on to every challenge run

[soft wasp]

I suppose so, but it does mean challenge runs with really tight time limits might not be possible anymore

[tough remnant]

Same way that journal exploit was

[chilly bloom]

I don’t think it was detrimental because of that

Journal exploit was a tad different

You can easily actively avoid the casino and it doesn’t fit into every single type of run

[woven tusk]

Does the casino ever restock warp totems or

[chilly bloom]

Daily

[woven tusk]

Oh, that's not so bad

[chilly bloom]

Yeah not at all though I wish the cal were like 100 or smt

[woven tusk]

I just wanted to be able warp home freely before the return scepter

[pseudo rune]

I have 100 starfruits waiting for me to turn them into wine... Then keg... Ahhhh, this takes forever lol

[tough remnant]

Yeah, the cap is too low I agree

[chilly bloom]

Turning into wine and kegging are the same step

[tough remnant]

Cap could honestly be a full stack and it'd be enough to prevent the exploit

[pseudo rune]

I meant the... other cask? or whatever its called

[chilly bloom]

Idk about you guys but I make a warp hub around the farm warp area and I’m warping there every hour in game sometimes

[pseudo rune]

Casket?

[chilly bloom]

Cask

[tough remnant]

Eh, you can always play older versions

[pseudo rune]

Not english native lel

[chilly bloom]

Version swapping isn’t exactly hard

And ape has literally given easy access to 1.5.6 for everyone

So you don’t even have to rely on scuffed methods

[woven tusk]

That's where you stick Grandpa, not your wine

[tough remnant]

Yeah, accessing other versions legitimately is a bit tricky though

Gotta use the Steam command line

No GUI for it

[sour hare]

The real fans will buy a Vita to play 1.2

[tough remnant]

And you have to track down the depot and manifest ID

For the version you want

[dusk glen]

New farm is actually amazing for early money with the free coop

[buoyant lark]

it was my first farm without someone else to play with me bc my partner is busy with work too often these days

and having a coop from the start really helped

[pine barn]

Though I will say, I'm nearing the end of year 3 with Meadowlands and I've got around 2 mil in the bank. This might just be becasue I've been far more relaxed this playthrough, but I'm definitely not going to be buying the gold clock any time soon.

[swift rover]

Hey guys, just got a tiktok that said that in the new 1.6 updates are iridium/purple pets now? Like purple cats/dogs?? Is it real? The comments are all just talking about the wizards basement and how it should be there??

[buoyant lark]

nah theres no iridium cats or dogs

you CAN get prismatic frogs though

[swift rover]

Wait what! That sounds even better!

[woven tusk]

Purple cat/dog sprites are in the files but have no behavior scripting attached like every other cat/dog sprite is. Likely not implemented

[flint tusk]

hey

[floral geode]

[flint tusk]

if i play on pc and mobile is there a sync or smth or no

account link / smth

[floral geode]

don't think so

[scenic fox]

what is that button with a skull in the skull cavern entrance?

[flint tusk]

ok thanks kaci

[flat sedge]

hard mode?

[fallow scroll]

When update for mobile

[fallow basin]

Soon™️

[woven tusk]

Right now there's an update for PC that isn't on mobile so the saves wouldn't actually be compatible anyway

[fallow scroll]

Did they said that? Just curious

[fallow basin]

No set date, so its soon™️

[fallow scroll]

Aight thank you

[scenic fox]

Lovely reward

[potent bramble]

is this the biggest family for raccoon?

[keen needle]

why do i want to hug them all lmao

[pine barn]

I think mine has 7, but the requests still continue

[floral geode]

[pine barn]

there doesn't seem to be an end exactly

[potent bramble]

so i can go higher than this

[open basin]

I've been loyal to standard farm until now(I'm actually just very resistant to change lol), but this new farm ir rlly great

My 1.5 perfection run was(obviously) centered around starfruit and ancient fruit in ginger island and greenhouse, but I'm thinking about making 50/50 truffle oil and wine since the main skill is animal husbandry

[gray oriole]

U get a steam achievement at max family

[open basin]

But man, it'd be so nice if I could use just a massive, absurd amount of chickens to reach perfection for the sake of roleplay but I feel like I'd lose so much time lol

[gray oriole]

But the quests can go on forever

[north slate]

Its been a long times not play, what is the latest update version for pc nad mobile?

And*

[gray oriole]

1.6 pc, 1.5 mobile

[open basin]

Dev has tweeted about working on mobile and console ports tho

[gray oriole]

Try sheep if u wanna do animals

[north slate]

Smapi mod for android still not campatible is it?

[open basin]

How do you guys call him btw? I've seen Dev and Ape

I've always just said Eric 'cause it's a cool name

[open basin]

My character loves chickens specifically

Not into sheep tbh

[north slate]

Good to hear that for mobile version, lazy to use pc, cant bring anywhere

[gray oriole]

Ostriches are a type of chicken

[open basin]

She likes chicken chicken lol

[nova flame]

can you no longer settle things the old fashioned way?

[gray oriole]

?

Do u mean the cc cutscene

[nova flame]

yes

it's different

[gray oriole]

Its still there

[nova flame]

?

i didn't get an option tho, weird

[tawny horizon]

can you put a sword on a manequin

[gray oriole]

Nope

[tawny horizon]

poo

[open basin]

I'd be worried of what a cursed mannequin would do with a sword in hand

[steady narwhal]

Finally got the lava katana I want

[gray oriole]

It goes up to 75?

[steady narwhal]

Yep 75 crit power

[open basin]

Holy shit

[keen needle]

is there a meta for weapons that i'm missing out on?

[flat sedge]

if you put as many gems on a weapon at the forge as you can, you can OP your weapon of choice with stat of choice, basically

[jovial dune]

crit power doesn't do much until really late, because base crit chance is so low

[steady narwhal]

This isn't like your standard +75 crit power this is a multiplier

Imagine acrobat as a weapon enchant, and the ability to stack as well

[proud hound]

and also @barren walrus, a bit of a late reply, but if you are willing to play with mods, you could play prairie king with 2 players (or 3 or 4), just updated for 1.6 (: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/16030

[jovial dune]

I'm curious, how did you get so much onto that katana? Or it is a mod

[gray oriole]

Vanilla

[steady narwhal]

It's vanilla

It's part of the new update

[gray oriole]

That weapon has 18% critical hit chance

Assuming scout profession anyway

[woven tusk]

Why is it named Katana when it is clearly an Arming Sword

Can the little parry bonk also crit?

[shrewd plume]

I think the wiki is assuming that isFirstCast will always activate (which it does as long as you don't miss your first bite or you always recast if you do)

[gray oriole]

Anyone know the latest time i can do the cc unlock cutscene

[drowsy steeple]

bro that's 9 hours ago

but thanks

I wanted to edit the wiki but it seems like there has been a discussion on the talk page too

[full prism]

I JUST LOST TO ABIGAIL... it's DIFFERENT in Year 2, ConcernedApe you SNEAKY CHEEKY omg I'm sooooo mad 😂 😂

[drowsy steeple]

the year 1 was in 1.6 too?

I didn't know the map was dynamic

[shrewd plume]

I mean it's not like there were thousands of messages 9 hours ago :P

[full prism]

It didn't USED to be! But it was different this second year and I'm in shock

[drowsy steeple]

I'm surprised the chat was quiet on monday

[full prism]

I'm laughing about it, I just, I can't believe it, I got got

[drowsy steeple]

so you unfortunately got the old layout in y1 so it caught you by surprise in y2? lol

[mortal verge]

Woke up to 3 giant Powdermelons! 😲 Never gotten multiple giant crops in one go before.

[shrewd plume]

I think the layout is always the old one in y1, then is a new one in y2, and then alternates

same thing happens with spirit's eve

[floral geode]

das a lot of powdered melons

[full prism]

Yes! Literally that, hahahaha

I got all complacent hahaha

[dusk glen]

How many did that cost to get

[floral geode]

you only get those from the dig spots right? or tickets..how long did it take?! Or did you use seed makers?

[dusk glen]

You can get em on racoon wife I think

Or no

[mortal verge]

Lots of pine cones from raccoon wife and seed maker.

[gray oriole]

U can

[floral geode]

oooo

[dusk glen]

All that farming for like 60g each ong

[mortal verge]

It's no so bad with the iridium scythe.

[dusk glen]

Pretty good decorations though ig

[solemn haven]

Save some in case the || racoons ask for dehydrated or jelly powder melon||

[mortal verge]

Good thinking. How many times does he ask for stuff? I've given him things 3 times already.

[gaunt terrace]

whats the best like super skill like behind that door

[floral geode]

1.6

vanilllla

hence the channel name

#archived-update-spoilers the one we are in is for 1.6 content

[mortal verge]

Mod, SVE.

[floral geode]

OOOOOH

my brain assumed you was talking about the powdermelons

we all make mistakes

[solemn haven]

Lots lol. I'm up to 6 i think

[mortal verge]

Good to know!

[stark glade]

raccoons have been asking for a rusty spoon for a month now and I'm yet to find one

[pseudo rune]

How do you get giant crops? I have never in my life gotten giant ones

[solemn haven]

||I have a chest just stocked with all my extra artifacts just in case they or fish pond needs it||

[solemn haven]

A random block of 3x3 crops can randomly merge overnight

[tough remnant]

8 to finish the achievement, but you can keep repeating the 8th quest forever

For more rewards

[solemn haven]

Pumpkins, cauliflower, melon, || powdermelon, and qi fruit||

[stark glade]

do you really need to spoiler 1.6 things on this channel

[solemn haven]

No but it's a habit

[stark glade]

makes sense

[pseudo rune]

Ooooh so thats why, I have always planted 5x5 with the sprinkler in the middle so never 3x3 with the same crops

[tough remnant]

Very useful for certain challenge runs since one of the potential rewards is "first missing item from your shipping collection (that isn't roe or non-syrup artisan goods)"

[stark glade]

think I'm just gonna craft 50 artifact totems and spam them all over the valley

[tough remnant]

It's a way to get mystic syrup without foraging mastery, for instance. Or SGB without travelling cart.

[solemn haven]

It only spawns in pelican town, mines, or artifact troves

[stark glade]

the spoon you say?

[solemn haven]

So drop it on a sand pit level of mines for easiest toteming

[tough remnant]

(You actually don't need travelling cart for anything anymore, which is neat. You can buy the Rarecrow at the Festival of Ice, and get SGB for rare seeds from Raccoon)

[solemn haven]

Ya

[stark glade]

travelling cart has been terrible lately

just fish and random dishes

[solemn haven]

Got spouse portrait on my first cart post marriage

[tough remnant]

Yeah travelling cart RNG was changed and now all possible items are equal weight

Rather than being categorised

[floral geode]

was there a change to the travelling merchant? It feels like there's more of something

oh wait..literally need to read a message up-sorry

[tough remnant]

So like... a battery is now just as likely as glazed yams

Is just as likely as daffodil

[floral geode]

I felt like there's more cooking stuff idek how to explain it though

[cinder wyvern]

not sure if this is the place but does anyone know if I can use the item tag name glitch to get the new fishing jellies?

[tough remnant]

There is indeed

Basically, you're now less likely to roll uncategorised items, and more likely to roll items that were in large categories like cooking, fish, or seeds

[floral geode]

Ooooh i see i see, tyy!

[tough remnant]

And furniture

[woven tusk]

That'd explain why I've seen multiple tree fruit popping up in her inventory, week to week

[tough remnant]

Really the major impact would be that previously common items like batteries are rarer now

This only affects the random stock though, not bonus stock like the rare seeds or rarecrow

Spouse portrait is bonus stock too

Not sure if the catalogues are

[woven tusk]

Used to be a bit of a longshot that the cart would have a tree fruit for skipping the sapling for the CC. If they're more common now, it's not bad for that...

[tough remnant]

I'd guess yes but IDK

[gray oriole]

Still works but item id system was changed to use words instead of numbers

A lot of items cannot be obtained bcuz their new id doesnt fit into the textbox anymore

[stark glade]

it's always gonna be there

it's always the last item

[solemn haven]

lol ah i thought i had good luck

[stark glade]

it's even there in the night market

she saw you marry someone and immediately commissioned 900 paintings

[gray oriole]

@tough remnant do u happen to remember the latest time u can get the cc unlock cutscene

[tough remnant]

My brain says midday, it's a weirdly short window IIRC

I would double check though

[chilly bloom]

Is anything more common in the cart? AFAIK stuff is only less common because they finally fixed the old bug with the selection algorithm

[tough remnant]

I know it's after 9 and you need enter from bus stop specifically

[chilly bloom]

1pm

Iirc

[tough remnant]

Implicitly that makes everything else more common

[chilly bloom]

It’s 8

[tough remnant]

Like, rather than needing to roll "Fruit Tree Sapling" then rolling which kind, you have all 6 fruit trees that you could roll on the one big table

[gray oriole]

Ugh thats annoying

[chilly bloom]

Not really? Though now the chances of getting more variety is higher.what the game did is pick items randomly from the whole list, if something wasn’t applicable it would skip to the next item. That means some items would have multiple chances of getting picked

Tulip and pufferfish had long threads of unapplicable items before them so were super common

[gray oriole]

Pathing for quests is throwing a lot of interesting wrenches into my plans

[chilly bloom]

I don’t think much stuff has higher chances than it did before but you will have stuff like pufferfish take less space on average

So you will get more of other stuff

[tough remnant]

Wait, so the thing about making a big list with equal odds had nothing to do with item categories?

Damn, I misunderstood those patch notes then

So presumably no-category stuff like batteries will still be common then

Unless that was also benefiting from a large string of invalids

[chilly bloom]

I think so

[chilly bloom]

Yep

[pseudo rune]

Can you get giant crops in a greenhouse? or only outside?

[chilly bloom]

Only outside on the mainland

[pseudo rune]

Oh I see, thank you ❤️

[maiden fiber]

Ooo didn’t know they couldn’t on GI

[proven grove]

Whats your guys s favorite pet in the new update

[gray oriole]

Turt

[pseudo rune]

White cat (I think thats new at least)

[tough remnant]

Void Frog

IDC that I can't pet it

[mortal verge]

The turtle makes to cutest sounds.

[neat sail]

Dog with bandanna

Adopted it immediately

[pseudo rune]

Oh that's gonna be my second pet!

[maiden fiber]

I wish a tuxedo cat was in game instead of diving my black & white cat into 2 separate ones lol

[gray oriole]

Oh yeah hats

Aaaaaa

This cc cutscene sucks

I hate how u get “penalized” for skipping it

[hidden ore]

the catalogues seem anecdotally to be common enough at the traveler's cart btw, I see one every few times so it's not hard to collect them

[gray oriole]

The real suffering is traveler’s rare hats

[hidden ore]

if I could pet Seb's frogs in the spouse room, that would be my new favorite pet, they hop around in the tank at least. that might not be new to 1.6, dunno what his room was like in that version, but I don't care 😄

[gray oriole]

U can make your own frog tanks

[primal pulsar]

The iridium scythe is all that I care about the 1.6 since bro, Being able to harvest multiple crops with a scythe without needing to mod it? What a blessing from CA

[hidden ore]

but I would love a calico cat in the game (my irl cat is of course a calico)

[primal pulsar]

Farming AF gonna be satisfying

[hidden ore]

still can't pet the froggie though 😦

[mortal verge]

It is wonderful

[primal pulsar]

Anyway to get 10k mastery, I could probably just do a single harvest of af/sf in ginger island right?

[neat sail]

Literally the best mastery in-game

[primal pulsar]

With the maximum layout

[neat sail]

Sorry you get what? How do you get penalized now? I've skipped it every time in multiplayer since I've played so much and it wastes time 😭

[hidden ore]

you have to have seen the cutscene after completion to get the extra point for grandpa's eval, if that's what's being discussed

[gray oriole]

if u skip the cutscene u end up at the entrance of town instead of the entrance of the CC

[neat sail]

Whatttt

[neat sail]

Ah sure that's not even bad, that was always in game I think tho no?

[mortal verge]

Whoops

[gray oriole]

i'm doing some stuff that requires super strict timing bcuz of NPC schedules so the time wasted walking over screws things up

so everytime i reset the day i have to go thru that cutscene again

[hidden ore]

that is some serious minmaxing right there

[neat sail]

Probably added to avoid teleporting people from other areas of the map when the cutscene is triggered in multiplayer tho (if I'm misremembering when it was added)

[gray oriole]

trying to do y1 desertfes

i'm not very good at fishing so i have to optimize in other places to make up for skill issue

[drowsy steeple]

riverland makes it trivial

[gray oriole]

the biggest wrench is having npcs at the proper spot I want them at to turn in quests with minimal time waste

[drowsy steeple]

turn what quests in

[gray oriole]

the taskboard?

[drowsy steeple]

for what

[neat sail]

Money

[gray oriole]

money and tickets

[flint tusk]

Guys

[drowsy steeple]

the 2 hour you spend walking can get you 4 extra largemouth bass

[flint tusk]

How many hits to kill prosmatic slime 50 billion??

[lime jacinth]

anyone tried spamming the fairy trinket to lvl 5?

[neat sail]

Eh different minmax styles

[gray oriole]

as I said

i'm timing it so i don't have to do any extra walking

[drowsy steeple]

oh cool

I personally won't go such lengths only to try again if I'm an hour slow lol

[gray oriole]

also i want 2 prize tickets asap for mystery boxes

[drowsy steeple]

just buy them at the fest?

[gray oriole]

that is way too late

[drowsy steeple]

also mystery boxes are fourth?

[gray oriole]

you unlock mystery boxes on your 2nd prize ticket

[drowsy steeple]

why do you need mystery boxes that early

oh that one

I don't know if I'm ever getting run this lucky again. found iridium band spring 5 and lucky ring spring 18

and shortly before lucky ring, red cabbage

[woven tusk]

Alas, I'm doing a bit with my character and they had to have a dog for it

[gray oriole]

I have megabombs super early from mystery boxes on this current save

[hidden ore]

note there is a dish you can get from the chef with a +3 fishing buff, shrimp plus cherry syrup would give +3 fish and +1 luck

[drowsy steeple]

megabombs are easy to craft?

[hidden ore]

in case that helps with your fishing woes

[novel parcel]

what does the new green rain event do?

[drowsy steeple]

easier than normal bombs since I always run out of coal

[novel parcel]

it looks cool

[gray oriole]

how tf do u expect me to get solar/void essence

I don't have a pickaxe

[drowsy steeple]

I think they need it before fest

[drowsy steeple]

oh you need mega bombs for going down mines?

[gray oriole]

im setting up for d15 SC

[untold wave]

moss grows on trees, some trees become large fiddlehead ferns, saplings have a chance of fully growing

[gray oriole]

need gold pick + a supply of stairs/bombs by then

[novel parcel]

do we need moss for anything?

[gray oriole]

a lot

moss is super useful

[solemn haven]

Emily. Wut did u do to me

[solemn haven]

Yes

[robust spoke]

she gave you clothes

[gray oriole]

she turned u into a warp totem

[hidden ore]

oh I thought it might be for willy's challenge, my bad

[solemn haven]

She gave me abs

[patent bane]

guys help one of my truffles from a pig is CRAWLING LIKE A ROCK CRAB?? I’ll post a video in #images-and-memes

[gray oriole]

moss is used for mushroom logs (endgame viable moneymaker + source of foraging xp), statue of blessings (strong daily buff), deluxe worm bins (gives deluxe bait daily), challenge bait (x3 fish on perfect catch), treasure totem, and blue grass

[solemn haven]

1.6 update

[gray oriole]

truffle crab have fun

[mortal verge]

That's a truffle crab.

[patent bane]

ohhh okay

[drowsy steeple]

I used one of the fest days to get jellies, figured catfishing and iridium mining both give ~40k gold, the difference being catfishing don't go through my supplies as fast and can be interrupted to do other things

[patent bane]

do I kill it?

[solemn haven]

Yup

[mortal verge]

Yeah, you get more truffles

[patent bane]

if I don’t kill it will it just live on my farm indefinitely because that sounds kind of awesome ngl

[gray oriole]

probably despawns at the end of the day

[hidden ore]

sorry, but no pet truffle crabs allowed

[pseudo rune]

I have 5 or 6 pigs and yet to see a truffle crab, I look forward to it very much!

Marley the trufflecrab

[hidden ore]

I actually took damage from my first encounter with one! but I got a sweet truffle oil along with a bse quality truffle and a crab in the end, along with a good amount of entertainment value 😄

[novel parcel]

I need so many things for cc now lol

[drowsy steeple]

wtf carrots are really good energy wise

haven't planted them previously

[novel parcel]

i think that what they were made for

[drowsy steeple]

teaching kids to eat their vegs since 2016

[hidden ore]

they have another more specific use

[novel parcel]

like what

oh I see

[flat sedge]

if you feed your horse a carrot, you get a speed boost for remainder of day when riding

[tulip fossil]

I noticed that immediately 75 energy for 3 day crop you can get for free they are definitely becoming a new goto early mines food

Then later save them for the horse

[flint tusk]

Guys

[hidden ore]

I stashed some powdermelons for that for nice winter mining

did great in that first year.

[flint tusk]

Im in the mine i destroyed everything and there isnt a ladder what do i do

[tulip fossil]

All the new crops actually give a lot of energy

[hybrid pier]

Lol bad luck day

[drowsy steeple]

that's not supposed to happen

[flint tusk]

There is just the one that crawls on you under the mud

[drowsy steeple]

ye that's an infested floor kill it

[hidden ore]

you sure there's not a rock left in a corner someplace?

[tulip fossil]

You must of missed it if no ladder has spawned by 2 rocks left is gaurenteed on the next rock

[flint tusk]

I can send ss

[novel parcel]

or some monster in the ground

[flint tusk]

Hang on

[drowsy steeple]

you have to kill every monster in infested floors

you have to kill the duggy

[final swan]

no one told me the farmer blinks on the inventory page now.

[tough remnant]

Wait, hats plural? I only knew of the Fez

[tulip fossil]

Yeah use the screenshot button in the menu to get a picture of the whole map

[tulip fossil]

Wait how’d you do master angler that quick did you somehow get enough money to reach Qi’s walnut room in spring for magic bait?

[tulip fossil]

Just so you know the screenshot button in the menu captures the entire map you are on

[tough remnant]

Yeah

Well, I did it in 1.5

Got the actual walnuts

[flint tusk]

Okay. But what do i do ..

Do i kill every orange animal

That comes from the holes?

[hidden ore]

yes

[mortal verge]

Yeah

[gray oriole]

I might be misremembering

[hidden ore]

if it's an infested floor you must do that and then you'll get a message that a way down has appeared

[tulip fossil]

I think there may be an error in the new rng system in the old rng system it was gaurenteed to give a ladder if you had 2 rocks left and one still hadn’t spawned

[gray oriole]

he's on an infested floor

[chilly bloom]

Another duggie prob

Just run on the soil

[tulip fossil]

Oh right it is infested yeah you missed a duggie for sure

I’m so used to staircasing every infested floor

Unless it’s a Dino floor in SC and I still don’t have that monster goal done

[hidden ore]

in which case you are praying for infested floors

well the slime infested ones are great for the slime goal too

[tough remnant]

Dino floor in SC is also often good in early game because it's a reliable source of iridium bats

[tulip fossil]

also a lot of free donations

[neat sail]

I need a -10 fish to catch these bloody jellies I've caught like 5 total across all my saves

[tulip fossil]

rip DangerouslyFunny and the nonexistant dino egg

museum completion in 1.0-1.2 was hell

[neat sail]

Happened to me too before, no ladders appeared after I cleared every single rock and monster, just leave and go to the nearest level

[tough remnant]

There is new tech for jelly fishing that can very reliably get like, 30%+ jelly rates overall with high luck

[drowsy steeple]

is there a new one or is it that river jelly trick again

[neat sail]

Need, I only have river and cave on my y2 save rn I cannot catch the sea one for the life of me and the racoon demands his chub

[tough remnant]

Did some code diving on how jelly works last night and it turns out it's weird but sorta manipulatable

[tulip fossil]

has blade released his 1,6 fishing code dive yet i remember him saying on someone elses livestream he had it recording

[novel parcel]

only thing I know is that I need more jellies

[tulip fossil]

all ive seen is high luckk and fish in places with lots of trash

[novel parcel]

yup same here

[tulip fossil]

my strat for day 2 fishing has become dont charge up the rod at all for 2 reasons if every fish is no quality then they stack and the other is sea jellies i want the +1 fishing buff for catfishes day 3

[tough remnant]

For sea, you ideally need either GI south, or beach in summer. Buy a training rod if you don't have one, bring both it and your regular rod to the beach.

When using training rod, you should only get Seaweed or Sea Jelly. If you get trash, this means that your Jelly RNG is on a bad value, and the only way to progress this is to catch a fish, so you switch to regular rod and cast at full length for a fish to progress value, then switch back to training rod.

[drowsy steeple]

luck buff that is, not daily luck

[drowsy steeple]

oh shit didn't think of training rod

that's clever

[novel parcel]

training rod is really smart

[lunar escarp]

before the new update, i used to turn my quarry into a wood farming thing so I would have a constant supply of wood. now since the quarry got updated and you have a lot more coal spawns, is the coal worth it to leave the quarry as it is or should I still use it to farm wood?

[tough remnant]

JellyRNG is weird and seeded, and the RNG is only progressed by catching jellies or fish

[novel parcel]

for more junkies

[tulip fossil]

floor 100 of the mines is ideal for cave jelly

whats the ideal location for river jelly

[tough remnant]

Cave Jelly is different yeah

River Jelly there's a great trick you can do in the desert with bottom pond

[tulip fossil]

the physics 101 pond?

[tough remnant]

In the bottom pond of desert, there are only 2 eligible catches - 10% chance for pyramid decal, and if that fails, it checks Jelly RNG

[tulip fossil]

right physics 101 is a different pond

i always mix up that one and pyramid decal

[tough remnant]

Only if fails do you get trash, and it always happens in that order

[robust spoke]

does the greater chance to find coal blessing from the dwarf statue

apply to dusk sprites?

or only for mining?

[tulip fossil]

it workks like the profession i believe

[drowsy steeple]

in retrospect probably i didn't need so many fish smokers

[robust spoke]

so it doesnt work on dust sprites

[tough remnant]

Anyway, the real trick with the desert is that due to an oversight, the top edge of the bottom pond is miscategorised and uses the top pond's catch table, which includes fish.

So you catch in middle of bottom pond until you get trash, then swap to top edge to catch a fish to progress the jelly RNG, then switch back to bottom pond until next trash, repeat

Which you can do without ever moving

And you can use good bait and tackles for this unlike with training rod strats

[flint tusk]

Guys at mines level 31 how to see in the dark

[drowsy steeple]

ring

[tough remnant]

Make torches or find a glow ring

[hidden ore]

bring or grab a torch until you have/find a glow ring

[flint tusk]

And i have to keep on selecting the torch?

Or i can wear it or smth

[tough remnant]

Place them down

[flint tusk]

Is there headlights

[hidden ore]

no, just rings

[tulip fossil]

glow ring/glowstone ring

[flint tusk]

And how do i get it

[tulip fossil]

gives your character a light radius

[hidden ore]

monster drops usually but after a point you can craft one

[tulip fossil]

glow rings are rng glowstone is crafted with the recipe earned from combat levels

glowstone is the same as a glow + magnet ring in 1

[robust spoke]

pretty nice this is like 30-40k already

[tough remnant]

But yeah, using the bottom pond strat that I figured out I was about to get 23 river jelly in just a few minutes of fishing with 8 luck

[barren wing]

Guys should i buy the teleporter staff or get the Ginger Island Obolysc

[barren wing]

woah

[hidden ore]

oh note that (side topic) with two iridium bands the visibility in Lewis' basement is still ultra tiny, seems to have no effect!

[tulip fossil]

obelisk farm warp totems are easy to get from the casino

ginger island warp totems are ridiculously annoying to get

[barren wing]

truth i have like 50 from the casino

[barren wing]

ur right

Ookok thx

[hidden ore]

obelisk first if you have the teeth I'd say

[stark glade]

oh my god

[unkempt dome]

@stark glade You leveled up to Farmer. You're now a prettier shade of blue. Thanks for sticking around!

[stark glade]

bro I just got 4 max luck days in a row

[quaint leaf]

Can you get multiple legend fish with the bait maker?

[tough remnant]

Glow radius doesn't actually increase with number of rings, it just gets brighter within same radius. And that radius is really small "indoors" for some reason.

[stark glade]

look at this

[tulip fossil]

i always go island obelisk, return scepter, desert obelisk, and then the 2 others

mountain and beach obelisk kinda pointless

[hidden ore]

the outdoor radius seems a lot bigger certainly

[tulip fossil]

desert also not too helpful if i want to get to SC fast id rather use totems but its better than beach adn mountain

[stark glade]

return scepter is kind of useless if you have desert obelisk

[tulip fossil]

? goto the farm to goto the farm?????

[stark glade]

@untold wave

[tough remnant]

Return sceptre more useful now that you can move house around

[tulip fossil]

obelisks can only be placed on the farm you know

[hidden ore]

return scepter is really nice late late game, lets you pop over to anywhere to do a task and then bam you're home ready for the next thing, I'd forgotten what a timesaver it is

[untold wave]

WOAG

[hidden ore]

yeah that was my expectation but no

[drowsy steeple]

is there any prequisites to moving house? I haven't tried it

[untold wave]

robin ve at the store (she’s never there when u need her)

[drowsy steeple]

so none, good to hear thanks

[tulip fossil]

scepter+obelisk is nice i guess if you kkeep all 4 obelisks near the farmhouse as it kkinda acts like all 5 warp totems in 1 then

[stark glade]

oh yeah also
it's still the 12th

[hidden ore]

I have them by the shrine but a mini obelisk gets me from there to the farmhouse

[stark glade]

12th of spring and I alrerady got 3 mega crops

[tough remnant]

Wizard much more reliable, he can teleport your farm buildings at 1:50am on a holiday if you really want

[untold wave]

you and I are not the same (my junimo hut isn’t close enough to harvest any crops)

[untold wave]

yea he’s actually kinda the goat

i used him

to move my clock at 1:40 once

[tulip fossil]

even if the forest is blocked off witch hut entrance

[stark glade]

this hut sucks

it's not even on

[primal garnet]

Crap, gravel path looks so much better than stone. Brb fixing my quarry tree farm

[tulip fossil]

does anyone know how much junimos double harvest with raisins

[stark glade]

This one is but it's mostly to look cool

[untold wave]

wait you have to turn them on

[stark glade]

you can turn them off more so

they're on by default

[stark glade]

that one I just have to make mega crops

[untold wave]

peep the hut top right

[stark glade]

paint the hut black

to match the rest

what qi makes me do bro

[mellow atlas]

what are the most profitable cultures of summer?

[tulip fossil]

starfruit

its not even a question starfruit if desert hasnt been unlocked melons

[untold wave]

hops is actually the most profitable

[stark glade]

erm technically

[tough remnant]

Hops

[tulip fossil]

im assuming making artisan goods always

[untold wave]

i’m working on project hops rn

8 fully upgraded houses full with kegs

[stark glade]

the hops revolution

[tough remnant]

Yes, hence hops.

[hidden ore]

that's some serious endurance right there

[tulip fossil]

does pale ale really sell for that much?

[tough remnant]

Hops is best crop, just not worth the effort lol

[hidden ore]

I have one 3x3 of them and I haven't processed any, they just go into the fridge...

[keen jetty]

this lmao

[tough remnant]

Pale Ale is 420g per with Artisan

[untold wave]

there is room for 4660 kegs in 8 fully upgraded houses

[gray oriole]

its more that it grows and processes daily

[tough remnant]

Hops produces daily

[drowsy steeple]

12 hours of catfishing

[stark glade]

that's a lot of trees

[drowsy steeple]

I guess catfishing gets you slightly more than iridium mining

[tough remnant]

Nah, iridium wins by far

[untold wave]

i’m going to make a full hops farm just to show how profitable is

give me a day or 2

[drowsy steeple]

even early on? how many you get per day?

[untold wave]

i need to fully upgrade 8 farm houses

[tulip fossil]

you know a guy has made over 80Mg year 1 in 1.5 using mainly iridium strats

[tough remnant]

I'm talking theory here. For me personally fishing wins because I'm way better at fishing than I am at SC lol

100% a skill issue though

[untold wave]

42000 per fish 🤤🤤

[drowsy steeple]

what are we talking about? can you get 80:20 iridium:gold catfish?

[tulip fossil]

yeah SC diving is 100% base don skill level i personally cannot get multiple full stacks of iridium ore per trip

[untold wave]

the only time i fish is when i get the legendary fish quest from qi

[tough remnant]

3:1 roughly without fishing buffs

[untold wave]

i can consistently get Legend II and smoke them for 42000 each

[tulip fossil]

is catfish more reliable than lava eels in caldera?

[drowsy steeple]

eh, I'm talking about year 1

[tough remnant]

Well, used to be 3:1 when I was in better practice. Now it's more 1:1 without buffs.

[chilly bloom]

Unless you’re bad at mining it’ll make more almost as soon as you unlock the desert

[tulip fossil]

id argue its more based on slingshot proficiency for as soon as you unlock the desert

[tough remnant]

Be me, mediocre at mining but obsessed with fishing lol

[chilly bloom]

Nah, you can still get way more with just bombs

[drowsy steeple]

catfish nets me 2.5 catfish per hour, which converts to around 2500g/h.
iridium mining at this point gets me around 40k a day which is around 2000g/h if you count 20 hours

[drowsy steeple]

is this with animation cancelling? I don't do that

[tulip fossil]

day 3 catfish hunting i think is more accessible than ever though just an extra +1 from sea jellies helps a ton

[drowsy steeple]

fr

[tulip fossil]

i know you can buy trout soupo from willy but not having to spend money for a fishing buff for catfish

[drowsy steeple]

trout soup is cheap but not for day 3

[tough remnant]

Sea Jelly saves time too

[drowsy steeple]

I kinda want to see you fish. those darting patterns are impossible to predict or react to

like perfect scorpion fish sounds insane

[tulip fossil]

tbf even with optimal conditions a perfect catch on some fish still have some rng

[drowsy steeple]

pretty sure you can TAS them but top humans only react within >100 ms

[tulip fossil]

i believe theres some jumps that are just impossible to catch in time but im not 100% sure

like if the fish jumps from the top of the bar to the bottom which some of the highest difficulty fish can do

[drowsy steeple]

are we talking humanly possible or theoretically possible

[tulip fossil]

like even if you let go of the reel the first possible frame and stop it in time so it doesnt bounces

[open basin]

If I wasn't so unlucky with the nautilus shell, I'd be able to get CC in fall
Damn, game
I'll gift Demetrius more just to be sure tho

[drowsy steeple]

hmm does barbed hook speed up acceleration

[drowsy steeple]

I got mine in desert fest lmao

[tough remnant]

Good for XP grinding as well

They're kinda predictable

I am less good at it now though, plus my reflexes are slower than they used to be. I am no longer in my early 20s lol

[tough remnant]

Octopus was my nemesis. Back in 1.4 when I did my original perfect catch grind, it took 114 day resets just to get a possible pattern, because they always shot to the top of the water faster than the green bar could accelerate even with mouse fully held down.

[open basin]

That holiday is in spring though, so uhh

[tulip fossil]

the gravity on the reel is slower than the fish and nothing you can do about that but making the bar huge can minimize the amount of darts thatd be impossible to catch up idk how much barbed hook helps but kkeep in mind you can almost triplr the level 10 fishing bar size

[drowsy steeple]

gotta go fast

[open basin]

I wouldn't like to minmax just for that, It's stressful as shit

[tough remnant]

Then 1.5 expanded max bar with 16 fishing cap instead of 14 and that made all the difference

[cloud oyster]

stardew valley wik isnt working for me "503 backend fetch failed" anyone know why?

[tough remnant]

Servers stressed, too many people using it

[drowsy steeple]

don't worry about it, try again later

if it starts with 5 it's their problem

[cloud oyster]

thanks

whats the best sprig crop besides potatoes

[tough remnant]

But yeah, in 1.4, hardest perfect catch IMO was actually Octopus just because of its typical pattern.

[tough remnant]

Used to be, not so sure now because bar can be huge

[cloud oyster]

i meant besides strawberries

[mellow atlas]

changes from 1 year

[mellow atlas]

coffee?

[tulip fossil]

the level 10 fishing bar is 168 pixels with 2 cork bobbers thats 216 with deluxe bait thats 228 plus the new maximum of 9 temp fishing levels thats 300 am i missing any increases

[scenic sphinx]

Rhubarb

[cloud oyster]

im not sure i can obtain that in time

[tulip fossil]

if im not 300 pixels is the new max fishing bar size

[hazy prairie]

how would you get the +9 fishing levels?

[mellow atlas]

Rhubarb Seeds?

[tough remnant]

Actual trick for that is to bounce the green bar off the top of the minigame

[tulip fossil]

thats 52% of the fishing bar is your bar

[drowsy steeple]

oh noes I sold too many items for iridium pickaxe now I *have * to buy 190 coal

[cloud oyster]

thanks

[scenic sphinx]

Qi season sea foam pudding + desert festival

[mellow atlas]

if only you have oasis

[cloud oyster]

just realized you said this, thank you

[mellow atlas]

but im not sure

[mortal verge]

I like the colors! I always forget you can paint buildings.

[tulip fossil]

+5 from qi seasoned seafoam pudding +1 master enchantment and the new one +3 from the chef in the desert festival

[chilly bloom]

Not really no, I barely use the pickaxe or fight anything even on early runs

[fiery pebble]

how do u get iridium scythe

[cloud oyster]

i do, appreciate it

[tulip fossil]

if you give him the right ingredients youll get a +3 fishing buff

[tulip fossil]

need mastery cave unlockked

get farming mastery

[fiery pebble]

ok thx

[drowsy steeple]

you can do that?!

[tough remnant]

Bouncing off the top/bottom of the fishing bar to match the faster fish doing their big darts from one side of the minigame to the other used to be necessary for some perfect catches

[open basin]

Damn I love this feature

[chilly bloom]

Yeah

[tough remnant]

Not needed anymore

[chilly bloom]

Cat in the hat

[drowsy steeple]

how do you bounce off the top

like what are the inputs

[open basin]

Mf just carrying a big ass bone on her head, iconic behaviour

[tough remnant]

Accelerate up, let go just before you hit the top

[tulip fossil]

that sounds hella tricky to do that and nestle it into the bottom that wouldnt work the other way around though would it if the fish darted from the bottom to the top?

[tough remnant]

Both work

[drowsy steeple]

time works differently for sicarious he's on the katana zero drug

[tough remnant]

Top more useful though

[tulip fossil]

but how would you do that on the bottom like you are reeling in the fish being on the very bottom so thats where you bar is and it jumps to the top of the bar how do you get a bounce that big with your bar already on the bottom

[tough remnant]

If fish is resting on the bottom and jumps to top, or vice versa, you're screwed

Nothing you can do about it

[tulip fossil]

thats the scenario i was describing

[tough remnant]

It's what made octopus so hard

[tulip fossil]

thats why i was confused

[tough remnant]

If it moves to top and immediately jumps to bottom though? Trick can save you

[drowsy steeple]

do I buy the book or use the money for starfruit

spring 21

[tough remnant]

I thought you were describing a rapid change in direction near the top of the bar

[tulip fossil]

whats your total funds?

[gray oriole]

fruit

[drowsy steeple]

50k with around 30k in fish

[tough remnant]

Because you were talking about the green bar needing to come to a stop

[drowsy steeple]

oh and idk how much in iridium bars

[tulip fossil]

both way of the winds add up to 0.5 speed buffs the first book is only a 0.2 buff

[drowsy steeple]

yeah do you think it's worth skipping a few starfruit

[tulip fossil]

no i was trying to give an example of when even with perfect play not even a tas could perfect catch if a fish did that

[drowsy steeple]

I mean the books are defo going to be useful in SC down the line

[tough remnant]

Yeah, those scenarios certainly exist. Might be avoidable now though with 19 fishing + blessing

[tulip fossil]

def for octopus i think blessing might not prevent glacierfish from ever doing that

since its less of a reduction on legendary fish

[tough remnant]

Plus Legend. With lowered difficulty, I don't think Legend is as prone to weirdly stationary patterns as it was before

[ember latch]

Evelyn/George Quest: Had to deliver|| 12 Leeks to Evelyn. Which she now gifted to George.|| What should I answer? 🤔
He asked me ||"Is this a prank?"||

1. ||We wanted to show our appreciation||
2. ||Your wife set this up||
3. ||Yes, it's a prank||

[chilly bloom]

Just save it all for starfruit, 5% speed is kinda mid

At least to spend so much on early game

[tulip fossil]

is that likke a bug with difficulty above 100 being calculated because by all reason mixed 110 should not be easier than mixed 100

[chilly bloom]

Buy a bunch of coffee if you want speed

[narrow iris]

Are those books even worth buying from the hot air balloon guy?

[gray oriole]

yes?

not like u have a better use for money past a point

[tough remnant]

Since I'm pretty sure the way that happened was Legend not having enough space to accomplish to dart move it was otherwise going to do

[chilly bloom]

The number just represents max speed, it’s not wholly indicative of difficulty

[drowsy steeple]

I'm trying very hard not to be enticed by the price catalogue

given how slow the wiki is lately

[tulip fossil]

when they both have the same pattern it should be

they are both mixed ai fish

[chilly bloom]

I don’t think that means they have all the same patterns, does it?

Sicarious would know

[tulip fossil]

theres only 5 fish ais smooth dart sinkker floater mixed

that combined with the difficulty rating which is just how fast can the fish move when trying to move

[lusty pecan]

im currently trying to get a triple of each legendary fish , currently on the legend and i got blessing of water with rain on the same day which is Awesome but ive done like 2 resets and wasnt even able to hook it

[tough remnant]

Game wasn't calibrated for that difficulty basically. It moved so far with its jumps that if it ended up in the middle, it would frequently find itself being unable to accomplish moves up or down, and reroll into smooth movements rather than dart, float, or sink

[gray oriole]

what season is it

[tulip fossil]

according to sicarious it seems the legend ends up not mobing a lot because he moves so fast often he ends up trying to move toa location outside the fishing bar and ends up not moving at all

[lusty pecan]

spring

cant use magic bait since id have to use challenge bait to get a triple

[chilly bloom]

I assumed mixed was actually a mix and might have different ratios for chosen movement. I guess that’s rather much to ask

[tulip fossil]

mixed means it can use any of the 4 other ai types when it moves

afaik

[tough remnant]

Nope, I used think that too before I started code diving though

Largely because of the Legend

[chilly bloom]

Yeah same, I’ve never done much digging into it myself hence the confusion

[tough remnant]

Because sleepy Legend happened so often it was a notable difference from other mixed fish

[chilly bloom]

Because there aren’t any other noticeable outliers

[tulip fossil]

yeah its just because he moves too fast you are saying it messed with him trying to use any ai other than smooth?

[chilly bloom]

Yeah but I was under the falseful assumption that each fish had different ratios. Like it picked smooth 40% of the time or smt

[tough remnant]

But yeah, basically, if fish rolls a target location for a move and it's outside the bar, it waits a fraction of a second then rerolls

[chilly bloom]

Poor legend

Too good for the game

[tough remnant]

So yeah, with blessing in the mix, legend is probably actually hardest again