programmers-off-topic

[uncut seal]

Here you go

[cinder karma]

Oh my god such a cute little hunter

[hushed raven]

an increadible fellow

[rain apex]

His house

[little furnace]

Probably the original Fallout. But I only because I count Portal / Portal 2 as prologue & main game, and Sonic the Hedgehog 3 / Sonic & Knuckles as the two halves of Sonic 3 & Knuckles, as they were intended.
But The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess is also high on that list.
Sorry for overthinking that question.

[cinder karma]

Hey, that's a great answer ❤️

[little furnace]

To be honest, there are too many games I enjoy. I love Wii Sports Resort. And I love puzzle games like Opus Magnum.

[prisma flume]

i think more than anything this is what makes me hate python

[cinder karma]

I have ten dollars of Google play credit and this game is a dollar on Google play

[little furnace]

If you want something to spend the rest on, Hitman Go and Lara Croft Go are two amazing puzzle games for mobile.

[weak obsidian]

Third...ubqiueb

Unique

Id say the Fantasy Life Series

https://tenor.com/view/fantasy-life-i-the-girl-who-steals-time-fantasy-life-i-fantasy-life-fl-fli-gif-10314772699969821251

Second favorite is the elder scrolls series

The number 1 for me is the aninal crossing series :3

[sand frost]

Totally worth a dollar. Maybe worth 10, even 😛

[cinder karma]

Are there gifs or histograms

[sand frost]

Histograms yes

GIFs no

You can see how you did relative to other players

[steel kraken]

None of the bridges have broken, I simply like to use the minimum amount of resources

[prisma flume]

99.88% precision is ok for an engineer. not so good for a structural engineer. extremely not good when measuring stress load

[steel kraken]

I get twice as many bridges as the structural engineer because I use all of the wood piece

The client only wanted a single demo of it working

[cinder karma]

Huh

[steel kraken]

hmm I wonder what cursed stuff I could build with https://jsonnet.org/

[prisma flume]

you're gonna need those spare bridges

[hushed raven]

that's cursed, I love it, but wow it's cursed

[steel kraken]

the client can buy replacements bridges from me if they want, but it passed their tests

[little furnace]

Weird way to spell "blessed".

[hushed raven]

its what the modders want wait this is the off topic channel

[little furnace]

I feel like this is less an off-topic channel and more an exile or asylum where they put all the people who would have otherwise spammed the modding channels with irrelevant nerdy stuff.

[prisma flume]

'the freak enclosure' isn't an inaccurate way of describing the software department

[little furnace]

I don't disagree with this double negative.

[weak obsidian]

Im in a padded room, aren't I

Crazy? I was crazy once

[prisma flume]

we call that 'the development environment'

[hushed raven]

they locked me in a room, a rubber room

[little furnace]

No, you're outside, and everything else is inside.

[weak obsidian]

with rats, and rats make me crazy.

[hushed raven]

Crazy? I was crazy ᵒⁿᶜᵉ...

[devout vault]

that is literally how this channel got made. we went off topic too much in #making-mods

(or that's how I remember it)

[little furnace]

Called it.

[devout vault]

And then the server veterans who weren't modders joined, like Crumble and aquova

Basically right away

[steel kraken]

ironically moddota went the other direction, we were off topic so often we made a helpdesk channel that will actually enforce on-topic conversation

granted that was still in the IRC era where splitting into multiple channels is a bit more effort

[cinder karma]

There is a gif generator

[hushed raven]

I wish to grace thyne eyes upon this attempt at a question mark made using html canvas stuffs

[devout vault]

That's a "I think I have questions, but I'm not entirely sure about it"

[cinder karma]

Elizabeth i am fully aware no one would ever make a metro this way oh my god

[little furnace]

This looks exactly like my metro attempts.

[cinder karma]

Including the panic attack of "oh my god why do you want to go to star station "?

[little furnace]

Kinda? Usually I never reach star station.

I need to get up in less than four hours but I don't want to go to bed. Life is cruel and unforgiving.

[steel kraken]

metro map styles like this are also an abstraction over how it would actually look like in a spatial sense, and that is less complex than the actual tram networks

[little furnace]

I feel like that is my cue to go to bed, because I realize that I don't have the brain capacity to understand that.

[cinder karma]

Well normally people have a station they go to

[little furnace]

Oh, true.

[cinder karma]

And they arent lkke any circle station will do

[steel kraken]

actual Melbourne tram map and all the jank that is in the network

[sand frost]

Looooots of transfers 😛

[little furnace]

Looking at that map gives me anxiety.

[steel kraken]

Largest currently operating tram network in the world would do that to you

[cinder karma]

Wanna see beijing?

[sand frost]

Hilarious because actual structural engineers prefer margins like “3x” and “5x” and “10x”

[little furnace]

I'm feeling dizzy just looking at that.

[sand frost]

I think I could figure it out but omg what a nest

[cinder karma]

The good news is that the trains have wifi

[steel kraken]

(Melbourne also has a large rail network as well which overlaps with the tram network but we don't attempt to diagram it together)

[sand frost]

I guess Tokyo has the fun layer of multiple different subway companies

[cinder karma]

I think too few transfers and too many long parallel lines

Also too many lines going through plus

[cinder karma]

San Francisco has the fun layer of two different subway companies

[cinder karma]

Baidu maps does very well

Ooh!

[sand frost]

Bart and muni?

[cinder karma]

Elizabeth did you hear that San Francisco doesn't get their parallel landings anymore

[sand frost]

What is a parallel landing?

Do you mean for planes?

[cinder karma]

Yeah!

[sand frost]

My friend sent me a picture of all the planes lined up to go there

Maybe that’s why

[cinder karma]

Two planes landing at the same time on parallel runways

[prisma flume]

tokyo central caused me immeasurable pain to navigate. so many different lockout gates to different platforms and lines

[cinder karma]

It's soooo fun to watch but it was causing issues

[sand frost]

Because La guardia or just cause?

[steel kraken]

Persona 5 alone gives me PTSD of Toyko's rail network

[sand frost]

Tokyo honestly wasn’t that bad but we used Google Maps a lot

[prisma flume]

definitely the only place where i've seen a sign 'hibiya line 1km ->' for pedestrians

[sand frost]

And accepted that sometimes shit would happen like going in the wrong door

[cinder karma]

https://youtu.be/wHDX0olpqrg?si=cArLcLlL_2iCCnAR

[steel kraken]

Persona 5 was quite successful in emulating the chaos that is tokyo central

[prisma flume]

inside the station. you have to walk hundreds of metres. across the full length of other platforms

[sand frost]

The only big mistake we made was using the Suica to tap in at Tokyo station before taking the Shinkansen on tickets that weren’t linked

So then we had to go talk to a person and ask for mercy

[cinder karma]

Try Beijing some day

Oh.

No

Try chongqing

[sand frost]

When we ended up in Nagano with an open ticket ride

That would just be forever stuck open without a fix

[prisma flume]

ugh the shinkansen ticket situation drove me nuts. i was totally clueless because there's 3 layers of rules about ticketing and i ended up queueing for half an hour in a sweat to have the ticketing inspector unhappily tell me i had it right the first time

[sand frost]

I did some frantic googling to determine what we did wrong

We got it right after that

[cinder karma]

Climbing up three flights of stairs to get to the station, riding two stops, then climbing five flights to get out of the station you arrived at is normal

[sand frost]

That’s too many stairs

Not every day is leg day

[cinder karma]

It is if you live in ChongQing

[sand frost]

Note to self don’t move there

Tbf the food would probably kill me also (peanuts)

I’m sure delicious but also full of danger

[prisma flume]

very merry that you can buy Fried Gluten With Peanuts in the average shop here in chinatown. you gotta be tough to get by with allergies

[sand frost]

Ugh I love fried gluten

And hate the with peanuts version

[cinder karma]

https://youtu.be/SRsFUzPbC5Y?si=EikGuGz7gGURaq1x

[sand frost]

It spoils my consumption of fried gluten

[prisma flume]

where's my disgusted wumbumojis gone

[sand frost]

I should break out a can soon

I have tons of cans because when I find a brand I can eat the generational trauma kicks in and it’s food hoarding time

[cinder karma]

Oh, since the aussies are awake

https://bsky.app/profile/nameshiv.bsky.social/post/3mito7l2jl22m

Shiv Ramdas Mens Rice Activist (@nameshiv.bsky.social)

my parents on the moon launch

mom: why are they going to the moon

dad: same reason we go to your brother in Australia- some people like going very far away to a place where you die if you go outside

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[devout vault]

Did everyone see the new dark mode (and friends) on xkcd

[prisma flume]

see americans probably think 'haha spiders and snakes'
but australians think 'the sun'

[sand frost]

Why not both

[cinder karma]

Blueberry, can I plant blueberries

[sand frost]

Also the wildfires?

No you live so far south of where they live

[cinder karma]

Anyways I've gotten enough radiation damage already

[sand frost]

Blueberries are a northern plant

[cinder karma]

Awwwww

:(

I wanted strawberries too

[sand frost]

They are a Washington state/new England plant in the US

[cinder karma]

I actually saw the garden shop try

[sand frost]

strawberries I know less about

I think they like sandy soil

[hushed raven]

strawberries grow in concrete, is texas really that inhospitable that strawberries can't grow there???

[sand frost]

I think they can grow over a much wider range of conditions than blueberries

[prisma flume]

blueberries thrive in more acidic, moist soil

i try and emulate this in my office environment

[steel kraken]

Our bushfire seasons are metal

[devout vault]

(My favorite is ||airplane mode|| )

[steel kraken]

I'm fond of the spring mode

[devout vault]

...I didn't notice what that one did

Yeah that's a good one too

[cinder karma]

Take 90 days straight of >100f weather

Then drop below 0f

If a plant can take that it grows in texaa

[hushed raven]

oof okay -17 C may be a tad too cold for strawberries

[red crest]

maybe for yours

[cinder karma]

I saw a lady carrying a strawberry plant in California and I was jealous

They apparently grow in Minnesota

Growing strawberries in the home garden | UMN Extension https://share.google/Z77aqGVNAvfbmbf3P

Maybe I should give them a try

Anyways

[sand frost]

You could try keeping them in a greenhouse in the winter?

[cinder karma]

single use bridge

[steel kraken]

passed the tests, customer is happy

[steel kraken]

actually is that bridge even single use, couldn't that push it back up again if needed?

[thin estuary]

is it on sale

doesn't look like it right now

and i'm kinda busy with other stuff anyway, this would be the end of me if i got Opus now

[dusty pollen]

it was on sale right after the dlc came out but that probably finished

[errant comet]

yay I finally made this clock arm work as intended

I love WEngine

[dusty pollen]

ooo nice

[errant comet]

now only thing left is making season image instead of this flower

[cinder karma]

The blue car falls back into the bridge and breaks it just after

The gif ends

[errant comet]

okay it actually worked but I wonder if I can make it simpler

'use strict';

export function update(value) {
    const date = new Date();
    let monthIndex = date.getMonth();
    if (monthIndex == 2){value = 1};
    if (monthIndex == 3){value = 1};
    if (monthIndex == 4){value = 1};
    return value;
}```

eh whatever as long as it works

[steel kraken]

for month index 0-11 Math.floor(((monthIndex+1)%12)/3) will spit out 0-3 for your seasons with 0 = northern hemisphere winter / southern hemisphere summer and incrementing from there

[pliant snow]

At the very least, else ifs would prevent it from checking all three times if it hits

[errant comet]

ohh really neat, tyysm

now I have to wait till summer to know if it works

[lethal walrus]

Just updated Firefox for the first time in months and why is it so round

[steel kraken]

Wouldn't want to poke yourself on a sharp edge

[prisma flume]

such is the google way, such is everyone's way

[worn remnant]

turning a big dial taht says "border-radius" on it and constantly looking back at the audience for approval like a contestant on the price is right

[prisma flume]

the logos inside squares inside circles is such a design decision

[worn remnant]

and such useful logos, too, like "S", "T", and "S" (again)

[cinder karma]

Compare prices

[prisma flume]

you don't know it says that. it might be Compare Prisons. or Prickly Pears

[lethal walrus]

I think that's the worst part tbh

[dusty pollen]

Hi, I’m afraid we do not allow AI-generated content of any kind on this server

[simple coyote]

"AI discussion is allowed here as it pertains to a lot of people's jobs, so long as things remain respectful."

[simple coyote]

Why does the channel description say that if it's not allowed? This is highly confusing to me.

[dusty pollen]

AI discussion is allowed, AI-generated content is not. Sorry for the confusion!

[simple coyote]

Well I don't agree with that judgement but whatever.

[dusty pollen]

The ban on AI generated content is from before the “no AI discussion” rule and doesn’t have exceptions - a message with the reasoning should be in #rules but if you don’t agree but are willing to accept it, that’s okay

[devout vault]

Huh. What are git work trees?

I googled it

Seems neat but not quite what I first thought

Still, sounds like a lot less disk space than an entirely separate cloned repo

[safe dragon]

im so fried

[safe dragon]

idk... git has too many things

[cinder karma]

Porcelain 🌟

https://youtu.be/aolI_Rz0ZqY?si=zLPbKaD1u5TB_Oli

[devout vault]

That history graph in the thumbnail looks like something that would give Pathos an aneurysm

[hushed raven]

not to self, don't let pathos see any of my repos

[safe dragon]

that thumbnail is any programmer's nightmare git history

[devout vault]

Nightmare != aneurysm

[hushed raven]

not to self, private my repos

[devout vault]

why are you using a boolean operator on yourself, twice

is this JS and you're trying to convert yourself to a truthy value

[hushed raven]

I have just eoken up, I will operate my bools how I please thankyou

omg my spelling today what on earth

[devout vault]

The real reason those mind games are working on you right now...

[hushed raven]

Probably likely XD

[cinder karma]

Atlas you're in California time

[hushed raven]

Oh wow my sleeping pattern is royally messed up, good morning cali

[worn remnant]

old faithful https://git-man-page-generator.lokaltog.net/

[safe dragon]

I'm omw home from work meanwhile

timezones smh

[hushed raven]

I blame the sun, I've been having plenty of catnaps so I go to sleep a lot later, I should move to spain, at least a siesta is normal there XD

[simple coyote]

I made a build of the game with any AI generated graphics replaced with emojis and clipart. Is it okay to post this? Because the game itself is what I want feedback on, the graphics are entirely besides the point.

[dusty pollen]

The version with no AI graphics is fine (assuming there's also no AI code or writing, of course)!

[uncut seal]

what's the point of generating AI images if the graphics are besides the point? why not use actual placeholders?

[simple coyote]

I feel more motivated when it looks nice.

[uncut seal]

💀

[simple coyote]

I can see where this is going. Whatever. I'll ask somewhere else.

[dusty pollen]

If your game meets the requirements I mentioned in my last message, you're absolutely welcome to send it here - people in this server tend to be quite anti-AI but you will still get good feedback and maybe even find possible collaborators

[cyan shadow]

If you'd like a lil suggestion that'll probably help keep you motivated - there's a guy that makes free placeholder graphics that look pretty nice and cover a lot of different scenarios. https://www.kenney.nl/

They're public domain and there are thousands of them, so maybe they'll be useful for you as you progress with your game? He's got 2D and 3D assets alike, if that's something you need!

Besides him there are lots of free asset packs on itch, but yeah

[hushed raven]

Quill do you have any other recommendations for thing like this? I do a scroll through itch.io every once in a while when looking for stuff but things not on there I usually end up missing, Time to toss these into my assets folder

[simple coyote]

My mood was already killed by negativity.

[cyan shadow]

I've got Kenney bookmarked for a rainy day if I ever get around to learning how to use Godot

[cyan shadow]

I found this guy on bsky, I find that being in the gamedev feeds on there helps a lot with finding stuff like this!

[hushed raven]

Bluesky please fix your content filter so I can actually see things like this not interrupted by egregious amounts of NSFW content

[cyan shadow]

Lemme DM you the link to the feed

[hushed raven]

Ty!!!

[devout vault]

Yeah I have his all in one pack from ages ago, for similar reasons

[cyan shadow]

His stuff is so cool

[devout vault]

I have a bunch of pixel art asset packs too

Not much on the 3d side, which is unfortunate because I’ll probably poke at a VR game next time I poke at games

[cyan shadow]

I found a tool for making 3D pixel art models!

[devout vault]

…I wonder if there’s a non-generative-AI way to generate 3d models from four facing direction pixel art

[cyan shadow]

PicoCAD 2

[devout vault]

Bold of you to think I can do pixel art

(Shapes I can do passable stuff with, but color related stuff is a struggle)

[cyan shadow]

I can't do good pixel art either but I got it anyway

I wanted to try!

[devout vault]

Oh, I think I’ve seen that before.

I’ve been using blockbench for my 3d test stuff for the mod

I’m a bit averse to the idea of using a pico thing for productivity stuff (including making a game, hence never trying to make one for it)

Because of how minimal it is with stuff like resolution, keys, OS Integration, etc.

Fine for playing games, but for actually doing stuff? Eh

[cyan shadow]

Picocad's UI looks okay? Especially since it seems to focus on usability a lot

I'll report back with my thoughts if I do try it, though

[hushed raven]

I can think of a method using shadows cast and some curved cutaways but a lot of depth would still be missing like inset eyes, nose etc unless it's a direct side profile

[cyan shadow]

My current game idea doesn't necessarily need 3D assets but it might be fun to fuck around anyway

[devout vault]

(If you check the crime thread and scroll up a bit you can see my test model I’ll be using for animations at some point)

(It’s atrocious)

[cyan shadow]

Where crimes

[devout vault]

They’re secret, I can’t tell you /s
( https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1414326612215992446 )

[cyan shadow]

I found it!

[devout vault]

I had contemplated lately how much I could get away with no texturing for my own game

Do stuff with body language and stuff instead

(Ex. Cat tilting their head)

[cyan shadow]

[supple ether]

I mean the creator of super hexagon said the reason the game is just geometry is that he is bad at game art

you definitely can make a game without art, or with minimal art

[devout vault]

Can, yes

But want?

😛

[supple ether]

ah I see, the old artist's trap

[pliant snow]

Picocad is sick

[cyan shadow]

Yeeee

[worn remnant]

stop

[devout vault]

The full semantic satiation experience

[safe dragon]

that's a lot of rules

[long verge]

https://giphy.com/gifs/son-im-crine-aaFz1Arg0h5cOwAu2w

[weak obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/crine-im-crine-son-im-crine-anthony-mackie-tiktok-gif-10273212848663596705

[cinder karma]

Fun fact if you can use every form of string interpolation python has in a single file you become closer to nirvana

I'm currently 3 out of 4 btw

[fallen field]

from string import Template;s=" ";th="this";Template(f"How{{s}}$w1{s}$w2%s".format(s=" ") % ("?")).substitute(w1="about", w2=f"{th}")

[safe dragon]

what on earth am I looking at

[hushed raven]

That fact I can read that is a nice suprise

[safe dragon]

oh wait this is just multiple lines of code with the new lines removed

[dusty pollen]

but template strings are so weird

[safe dragon]

template strings are evil

(they're great)

their main evil making me feel icky as someone swears to me it's actually sql injection safe

[dusty pollen]

okay but like, what ARE they

[safe dragon]

I can barely read python as is

[steel kraken]

I don't immediately see how it would be SQL injection safe if it's doing string manipulation

[rain apex]

Is this malware /lh

[steel kraken]

Only reliable way to avoid SQL injection is to give the database the query and the parameters separately

[rain apex]

Baby's first obsfucation

[fallen field]

yes, it's an attack on anyone that looks at it

[safe dragon]

so the fancy sql template strings basically extract what you put in the template strings and actually creates a string that passes them is as bound variables instead

[rain apex]

Why not just use bind params like normal ppl

[steel kraken]

In typescript with tagged template literals yes, but that python snippet doesn't do that

[cinder karma]

I'm now 4 out of 4!

[hushed raven]

I prefer the more reliable method of not including user entry fields, can't have SQL injection if theres no chance of injection

[cinder karma]

R you talking c# or python

[safe dragon]

I think both have em

[cinder karma]

SinZ! Do u have bridge gifs

(Semi legitimately too.)

I'm using templates because asking for jinja2 would be asking for something

[steel kraken]

sql`SELECT * FROM USERS WHERE ID = ${userId} AND DELETED = 0` 

is safe because the SQL function gets called with (["SELECT * FROM USERS WHERE ID = ", " AND DELETED = 0"], userId)

[cinder karma]

%s because that's what logging uses

[cinder karma]

F-strings because they're modern

And .format to avoid deconstructing a tuple

[little furnace]

Bridge GIF for you.

[safe dragon]

imagine using an actual templating engine

[cinder karma]

Somehow I think hot air balloons aren't that strong irl

[little furnace]

It all depends on how hot the air is.

[steel kraken]

Tbh I haven't actually gotten up to interesting levels enough to make good gifs

Unless some of my cheap bridges has enough satisfying flex in it

[cinder karma]

Smh.

BTW, Pink Serenity. Did you see how nutty the last week Opus Magmus tourney puzzle got

The metric was rate-primary, instructions secondary

....or maybe it was a different one...

[little furnace]

I honestly don't pay attention to tournaments. I am competitive, but I don't want to watch other people being competitive.

[cinder karma]

https://youtu.be/VWsgw3drqTQ?si=R4XmESWvqvfhee2q

Okay it's two years ago actually

I'm mostly watching to get good ideas lol

[little furnace]

Minimalistic supports, I see.

[steel kraken]

and the famous wood rope

for the rope tutorial level

[little furnace]

I wish I knew where that laughing dog emoji comes from. It fits so many situations.

[steel kraken]

take your pick

[little furnace]

Oh, wow, there are multiple ones?

And I'd probably need Nitro for all of them.

[little furnace]

According to this you missed one.

[rain apex]

I like the chub one

[little furnace]

By comparing the names for your emojis I can now map out who shares a server with whom.

My trap has worked.

[hushed raven]

I also have plenty

[rain apex]

But u can see it already

Just be in every sdv adjacent server lol

[little furnace]

... there are multiple?

I only realized half a year ago that this one exists.

[hushed raven]

Theres like more than 20, each one for specific mods or otherstuff

[rain apex]

Besides here there's usually one for every sizeable expansion

[little furnace]

... considering that the only channel I'm active here is this one, I feel like I'm actually not really missing out.

[hushed raven]

I'm only active in 3, and one is merely stardew adjacent

[rain apex]

I'm clearly in those for kekdog and nothing else

[hushed raven]

kekdog and beta builds are the reason for most XD

[rain apex]

It's kind of just how communities work tbh

When circle get to enough size it buds off another sub community featuring a portion of the ppl from original

[little furnace]

True. I once wanted to actually create a political system based on that.

[safe dragon]

if you count friend servers spawned from this discord there's probably hundreds

[little furnace]

I feel like one could make a server based on this channel alone.

• Linux (or ranting about Windows)
• Framework laptops
• Opus Magnum (and other Zachtronics)
• Poly Bridge (and other Bridge Builders)
• Cats (and dogs)
• Cats
• Cats
• Cats
  ...

[rain apex]

Sure but i dont think we hit critical mass

[hushed raven]

A cat server for each cat emote of course

[rain apex]

The topics r fleeting and vaguely programming here which I enjoy

[cinder karma]

SinZ likes bridges just about to fall over

[rain apex]

The dedicated programming™ servers r not as casual i find

So im only in those bc they have

And ofc

[safe dragon]

I think we should start interpersonal drama to accelerate our progress towards branching off into separate servers

[cinder karma]

I dont have nitro lol

Do i look rich enough to have nitro

[little furnace]

Casual somehow programming is certainly an atmosphere I enjoy.

[little furnace]

I mean, you look old, young, rich and poor all at the same time.

[safe dragon]

I chat in a game engine discord and the off topic there is very different from here

[steel kraken]

I enjoy watching it stress

[safe dragon]

weirdly enough they almost never talk about games there

[little furnace]

I mean, that's almost on-topic in such a server.

[wary osprey]

This is the ai channel?

[fleet wren]

no this is the rust worship channel

[wary osprey]

Or where we can talk abut it?

[safe dragon]

certainly wouldn't put it that way

[safe dragon]

cruel

[wary osprey]

Fuck ai

That is all

[cinder karma]

Look mate it's the zachtronics channel

[errant comet]

Kitty channel

[hushed raven]

and just as soon as they arrive, they left once again into the wind

[little furnace]

While I somewhat agree, the reason it's allowed here is because this environment encourages thoughtful discussion.

Or something like that.

And no ranting.

[steel kraken]

being the only channel where it wont get banned on sight doesn't make it 'the' ai channel

[cyan shadow]

(I sent them here because they have Thoughts™ about DLSS5, I was not expecting a "Fuck AI" )

[rain apex]

Big fan of ai (adobe illustrator)

[hushed raven]

this is most certainly the kitty channel, we love cats here, more so than actual programming if i were to take a count

[rain apex]

Actually since it's adobe they probably put ai in ai by now

[errant comet]

I love ae

[wary osprey]

I can do that with a lot of issues but not human rights or ai. Maybe one day

[lethal walrus]

i enjoy ai (anguilla)

[cinder karma]

How many config.jsons will this take, ten?

[errant comet]

They did years ago me thinks

[wary osprey]

Kittyyy

[rain apex]

Wow a non burnt version

[wary osprey]

Ur fly is open mate

[errant comet]

Haven't seen mis gatitos in almost a year

[little furnace]

Honestly, I much rather have some kind of "artificial intelligence" (like enemies in games or something like that) than Adobe.

[errant comet]

Gonna cry

[fleet wren]

speaking of zachtronics never give me a symmetric problem worst time of my life

[little furnace]

Oof.

[drowsy kestrel]

Based

[cyan shadow]

I found out that people are trying to brute force data analysis through LLMs and I have so many questions, mostly just "Why not machine learning don't reinvent the wheeeeeeel"

[wary osprey]

Is this supposed to scare or provoke me?

[hushed raven]

symmetry my beloved, Loving all the rotational arms

[wary osprey]

I wouldn’t be saying anything if this shit cleaned my dishes

[cinder karma]

If you hold down control you can copy arms and glyphs, programming included

[little furnace]

@Junimos somebody posted AI-generated content!!!!!

[cinder karma]

You can also copy instructions with ctrl-click and drag

You can also select a group and hit a and d to rotate group

[errant comet]

Now I wanna see opus but with kitties

[little furnace]

-# code blocks mentions, right?

[fleet wren]

(oh yeah I know about duplication groups, it's the placement and arrangement that's annoying)

[cinder karma]

And you can alt click an instriction to fast forward to it

[rain apex]

Crumble ur the only one i know in haunted chocolatier server what is ot like over there

[errant comet]

They use their paws to move yarns

[cinder karma]

Saved mg ducking sanity doing these stupid production puzzles

[rain apex]

Did they manage any budding b4 game's even out

[cyan shadow]

Seems chill enough

[safe dragon]

pretty chill

mostly the same small group just chatting

anime or games

I'd go as far as saying that most people active there aren't even particularly excited for the game lmao

[hushed raven]

Theres a haunted chocolatier server? wow

[cinder karma]

(I love opus but it could have done better aboit explaining the commands)

[safe dragon]

yes

[errant comet]

gotta book the places

[cinder karma]

Alt click to fast forward to an instruction is life saving

[steel kraken]

🙁 went triple muscle twice just for it to be more expensive than my previous thing anyway aww

[hushed raven]

it also could've done better regarding obfuscation, let me mod the game dammit!

[safe dragon]

I had no interest in joining it but my friends made it so I caved and joined and now they've all stopped going there and I remain

[cyan shadow]

Run by a 12 foot skele

[rain apex]

They speed ran the off topic channel in dedicated server lifecycle then

[fleet wren]

yeah I'd only join at the latest a week before release date

[hushed raven]

Home depot sponsored discord server vibes XD

[little furnace]

I can't join any new server, Discord will give me a spam restriction anytime I try to and I don't know why.

[cinder karma]

How much of my day is string parsing

Dear lord

[rain apex]

67%

[safe dragon]

we had a phase where HC was just people banned from sdv seeking refuge but that's thankfully seemingly no longer a thing

[cinder karma]

Actually, string parsing in python makes me miss my AtraBase c# helpers

[errant comet]

Settings > Account > Standing

[hushed raven]

I hear a shortcut for string parsing is rm -rf -no-preserve-root

[cinder karma]

Atlas

[rain apex]

When are you making atra-py

[cinder karma]

I'm trying to become a millionaire

Not get fired.

[dusty pollen]

the worst

not because of the command. because you forget a hyphen on the longform flag

[errant comet]

Iro are you rotating your pfp by 1 degree everyday or am i going insane

[little furnace]

The first one already happened because I was trying to join a server. The second likely because of the first infriction. Now I won't be able to join any new server for the next two years.

[cinder karma]

Have you seen memoryview

[hushed raven]

I don't have time for double hyphens! that's just more work!
-# also ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)

[dusty pollen]

no? that would be funny though

[errant comet]

Oh I see

[cinder karma]

It's on my todo list to do Span in python

[dusty pollen]

a bunch of people on april fool's asked me why my pfp was sideways

which I do not understand

it was exactly the same orientation that it always is!

[hushed raven]

it's like they're not true iro fans smh

[little furnace]

You might be confusing @irocendar and @ichortower.

[errant comet]

I am not

I may be blind but not to this point yet

-5 is no joke 💔

[cinder karma]

Just for the record, c# now has better string parsing tools out of the box

[dusty pollen]

you say that like it's surprising...

[little furnace]

Oof. I have -3.75 and barely see a thing.

[dusty pollen]

python's list join method is on string, not list

[cinder karma]

Fuck

[dusty pollen]

their text parsing is awful and always has been

[cinder karma]

Free Wendy's frosty today

And fries

[hushed raven]

no clue what I have but what ever it is, it's mighty wonky

[cyan shadow]

I have - 4.75 and -5.25, it's rough

[dusty pollen]

I have 20:20 vision and a mildly amused optometrist who told me to touch grass more often

[little furnace]

Is 20:20 good or bad?

[cinder karma]

Of course it is

[hushed raven]

2020 is perfect vision

[errant comet]

Quality 4 item

[cyan shadow]

And I have cylindrical power in one eye so I have a wombo combo that results in a general "oof contact lenses are expensive"

[dusty pollen]

good

technically not perfect

it's like, standard good

[little furnace]

Do you call it Corona vision?

[cinder karma]

So is c#'s

[hushed raven]

well no it is perfect if going by the standard, if it's better than 2020 it's exceptional

[dusty pollen]

20/5 is much better than 20/20, for example

[cyan shadow]

I got glasses because of heredity, resulting in 7 year old me fighting with my optometrist after he accused me of watching too much TV

[little furnace]

This is confusing.

[cinder karma]

You can pass any iterable of string to it

Doesn't have to be list

Which is why it's on string not on list

[hushed raven]

the numbering is confusing but it's roughly you can see something 20 feet away at the same degree as if it was 5 feet away (based on someone with 2020)

[cyan shadow]

Like
My mother was wearing her glasses to the appointment

[dusty pollen]

20/5 means that at 20 feet away, you can see as well as a normal person would at 5

[cyan shadow]

You could see where the gene came from

[little furnace]

But what if I have metric eyes?

[cyan shadow]

Well
I couldn't, didn't have the glasses yet

[dusty pollen]

then you also can't do the 20:20:20 rule

[hushed raven]

then you divide your eyes by 3.281

[cinder karma]

Anyways

It's a ratio anyway smh

[cyan shadow]

Sounds painful

[cinder karma]

Quill! How goes Denmark

[cyan shadow]

Denmark?

What about it?

I imagine they're starting to get spring weather too, I suppose

[cinder karma]

Netherlands

[cyan shadow]

Ah yes

[steel kraken]

not my best work but it'll do

[cyan shadow]

Was very sunny today

I went for a meetup with my student association today!

[dusty pollen]

the netherlands is a type of a denmark

if you squint

and get no sleep

[cyan shadow]

Picked up my merch and bought some tiny crochet plushies for charity

[cyan shadow]

They're SO tiny

[dusty pollen]

show

[cyan shadow]

Wait they're purse rn

[hushed raven]

I wanna see the plushies too, I love tiny things

[cyan shadow]

Smol.

[hushed raven]

omg they are the best things ever

[cyan shadow]

Mouse for scale

[hushed raven]

smh "cat for scale" unavailable?

[rain apex]

We should do this irl what could possibly go wrong

[cyan shadow]

Sale proceeds go to the KWF, a charity supporting cancer patients and survivors!

[cyan shadow]

I wish

[open garden]

I love that little chick so much! It looks like it has a tiny leaf sproute for hair!

[cyan shadow]

It does!

Is a little sprout duckling

[open garden]

Yay!

[cyan shadow]

I decided to get my Boi a frog as well

So now my friend made four sales just from me lmao

My donation will ultimately be about 20 euros all up, which isn't much but I hope it helps

[cinder karma]

Bouncy

Anyone have interesting plans for this weekend?

[heavy dagger]

New quote added by kittycatcasey as #7854 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1491195510277669044)

[devout vault]

Not quite Opus, but
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1150090/Learning_Factory/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/619150/while_True_learn/

Steam

Learning Factory

Learning Factory is a relaxing automation game, which lets you concentrate on the most important task in the Universe: making cats happy again.

You're a humble genius scientist who gets invited to become the chief engineer at an abandoned Factory on Mars, designed to produce and sell exquisite goods for cats. It was conceived to learn everyth…

Price

$14.99

Recommendations

384

Steam

while True: learn()

while True: learn() is a puzzle/simulation game about even more puzzling stuff: machine learning, neural networks, big data and AI. But most importantly, it’s about understanding your cat.

In this game, you play as a coder who accidentally found out that their cat is extremely good at coding, but not as good at speaking human language. No…

Price

$12.99

Recommendations

7216

Metacritic

73

[heavy dagger]

Title result: Learning Factory on Steam

[devout vault]

wait are we talking about HC sever or here. when was the last time you opened SDV? 😛

[errant comet]

Kibbies

Pricetag is as sharp as kitties claws tho

[devout vault]

...$15 and $13?

[errant comet]

Yeahh, it's much more affordable in my regional prices tho so it's okay

Only 5 and 3 $

I forget discord doesn't care about regions when it comes to embeds

[cinder karma]

For some locations $15 is a lot tbh

[errant comet]

It really is 😭

[rain apex]

15 dolar could buy like

5 napa cabbage

[errant comet]

15$ could buy me one week worth of food

[rain apex]

The big ones

It's nice that steam does regional pricing but that's why there's so many fake argentina

[cinder karma]

Anyways

Good morning, everyone

Any touch grass plans for the weekend?

I should make sure to go rock climbing

[thin estuary]

no grass touching plans

[cinder karma]

Is that a real game

[thin estuary]

Discord's April Fools thing

[cinder karma]

Also tbh, shockah

I did touch grass and in touching grass also touched a bunch of ants

So my right hand is mad

[thin estuary]

i'm happy i got this in that thing

[cinder karma]

I'm also inexplicably now allergic to my watch

[errant comet]

I lowk hate this thing they did

Nice crafting mini game but that's generally it

[cinder karma]

How have u been? Long time no see

[thin estuary]

WoW season started, so been busy with that

i've turned my WoW house into a small parkour course

[devout vault]

I have a few friends that are all in on the wow update

Well

Every wow update, to be fair

They're enjoying the housing though

[thin estuary]

most of my guildies don't care about housing

[dusty pollen]

until literally just now I thought that was a real game they were being paid to advertise lmao

[devout vault]

They've got a guild neighborhood (or whatever it was called)

[devout vault]

I mean, the ongoing trend of enshittification + that popup ad for it certainly doesn't help...

[dusty pollen]

exactly

[steel kraken]

hydrolics aren't needed

[devout vault]

.

[cinder karma]

SinZ what game is that?

[dusty pollen]

I believe, judging by the massive "poly bridge 3" in the corner, that it may be poly bridge 3

[cinder karma]

It's free frosty/fries day at Wendy's today btw

You have to go in personally but

[sand frost]

Hmmmmmmm tempting

Does it work in drive thru?

[devout vault]

But my dad is making lasagna for dinner

[cinder karma]

Dont know, I do know it's specific locations only

[devout vault]

Do you have to buy anything

Oh

[cyan shadow]

(Most of latam pays US prices now because of misuse of their region's pricing btw. The end result is that fewer people can afford games there so no one won.)

[cinder karma]

You dont have to buy anything but

[sand frost]

I went in and didn’t test the drive thru theory

My Wendy’s is participating

[cinder karma]

Blood donation day 💖

[hushed raven]

Yay donation! make sure to stay hydrated and fed!

[cinder karma]

Atlas! What is your favorite media involving vampires

[pliant snow]

you mean to tell me a blood donated this day?

[prisma flume]

hi aquo do you like your new role icon

[pliant snow]

they refuse to change it

[red crest]

whats wrong with it

[hushed raven]

What We Do in the Shadows! a great piece of british comedy

[hardy jewel]

the role icon has always been like that, whatever do you mean

[cinder karma]

Aquo is that a new pfp

[pliant snow]

it's the same one, just zoomed in

[prisma flume]

not maya, not looking

[pliant snow]

Maya will return in Avengers: Doomsday

[prisma flume]

i hope she's nick fury

[pliant snow]

doesn't apollo lose an eye

[prisma flume]

i've only played ace attorney 1~3 man i have no idea

[pliant snow]

I've played 1-4 lol

[prisma flume]

one-upped

[cinder karma]

Isnt Apollo a set of rockets once headed to the moon

[fleet wren]

isnt Apollo the Greek god

[hushed raven]

isn't Apollo the theatre in Harlem, New York

[cinder karma]

Isnt Apollo an Irish company

[prisma flume]

¿isnt a pollo a feathered biped?

[red crest]

I thought a polo was a kind of shirt?

[cinder karma]

Free fries and frosty got

[little furnace]

Isn't a Polo a smaller Volkswagen Golf?

[steel kraken]

I thought a polo was used in the sport

[little furnace]

I don't think any part of Polo is called polo.

[steel kraken]

its a polo club to hit the polo ball right?

[little furnace]

No, it's called a mallet.

Trust me I'm a professional Polo Wikipedia article reader

[steel kraken]

ah my ctrl+f got mixed up, you play polo at a polo club

[prisma flume]

i thought a polo was a minty fresh treat

[steel kraken]

I thought apollo was a watch brand

[little furnace]

I thought app Olo was an app displaying that color for non-human users that can see it?

I broke the chain by doing something too far-fetched, I'm sorry

[fleet wren]

interesting, I've only heard of the composite imaginary colors before

e.g. blue/yellow

and not the Concept of Green

[little furnace]

I thought "apo-loo" meant the furthest you can be from any bathroom.
Example usage: "This is bad. I'm apo-loo and and really have to go."

[devout vault]

I thought a polo was a type of shirt

[devout vault]

No, app olo is a thing used in the restaurant industry for ordering and payment handling and such

[steel kraken]

button already did that one

I thought a polo...roid was a type of camera

[devout vault]

good thing I said two then

[cinder karma]

I'm enjoying the discussion of bounded vs unbounded areas for opus magnum puzzles lol

[regal ingot]

Given the channel, surely we're talking about Apollo, the 1980s computer manufacturer?

[hushed raven]

Something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy: git cli on mobile, half an hour it took to do something that takes 30 seconds on desktop! Hellish experience, do not recommend, 0/10

[dusty pollen]

hey! that's on topic to programming!

this is programmers OFF topic

[devout vault]

So true. Quick, diversion! can’t recall how old this photo is, wish I was home so I could pet him…

[steel kraken]

that photo is dangerously ontopic with [REDACTED] in the background

[errant comet]

Is there a way to count the length of a string on js

I don't wanna resize the whole text field cuz of this one

[rain apex]

Hmm yes i have WEDNESDAY dolar in the bank

[dusty pollen]

I choose to believe you are currently five minutes away on an errand and just woeful you cannot pet him this very instance

[errant comet]

Is it even properly spelled lmao

Wednesday

I think so

[dusty pollen]

in characters or in pixels? in characters it's just .length

[errant comet]

Yeah chars

It's the font making all characters in caps so it's kinda that big

Maybe ill find stardew font and make it prettier

[dusty pollen]

you could check what the scroll generator is using

[steel kraken]

note that .length for character count is only useful when you pretend some of the more interesting parts of emoji doesn't exist

[dusty pollen]

which I think would be fine in the case of counting characters in weekday names

[dusty pollen]

lmao that's four gender AND four skin colour modifiers, right?

plus however long the actual emoji is

full on emoji sentence at this point

[steel kraken]

🧑🏼‍🧑🏿‍👦🏻‍👧🏾

[errant comet]

I was sad realising an emoji of black cat is actually cat and some black circle

🐈‍⬛

[dusty pollen]

ah, zwjs

[steel kraken]

the main one I actually respect is that flags are just A-Z and you spell the country code so the spec doesn't need to care about country politics as to what a country is and if they deserve a flag

[dusty pollen]

until people try to use the modifier letters to spell things in discord messages and get confused about why half their message got replaced with flags

[prisma flume]

exposed: the dark secret meaning of regional_indicator that the unicode consortium doesn't want you to know (globalism!!!)

[steel kraken]

that being said I dont think windows has any flags still

[prisma flume]

yep it's annoying when you want to send a flag in teams. none

[dusty pollen]

🇸🇵🇴🇹 🇹🇭🇪 🇵🇷🇴🇧🇱🇪🇲 (🇸 🇵 🇴 🇹 🇹 🇭 🇪 🇵 🇷 🇴 🇧 🇱 🇪 🇲)

[errant comet]

Not that bad tbh

[prisma flume]

🇳🇴

[steel kraken]

interesting, discord has them in its font unless discord server-side replaced them

[prisma flume]

discord uses the twitter set iirc, also includes oddballs like 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[dusty pollen]

🇸🇵🇴🇹 🇹🇭🇪 🇵🇷🇴🇧🇱🇪🇲 (🇸 🇵 🇴 🇹   🇹 🇭 🇪   🇵 🇷 🇴 🇧 🇱 🇪 🇲)

well this was unhelpful for figuring it out lmao

[errant comet]

\

[steel kraken]

I didn't know discord rendered them in isolation as that blue block but in pairs 'correctly'

[errant comet]

Between

[dusty pollen]

hold on, it combined them differently!

[dusty pollen]

the blue block has spaces in between every letter

[steel kraken]

the M at the end is also blue block due to being odd one out

[dusty pollen]

yup

oh I see what you mean

[steel kraken]

Oh its completely different on windows vs android

Android

[dusty pollen]

I reckon the places where they don't have a blue background are places where there are correct flags to either side, so for some reason the font decided to prioritise those and substitute a different version of the letter in

[steel kraken]

Windows

android found the Saint Barthelmeny flag??

[dusty pollen]

it's completely different in a code block vs not in the same browser

in that the code block combined EM into an unknown flag and the non code block didn't

[steel kraken]

windows

[dusty pollen]

delightful

[dusty pollen]

I assume the oddball is something about how it's encoded and not the existence of the welsh flag?

🇼🇦

oh, I expected wa to work

[prisma flume]

note the emoji name is wales and not flag_wa

[errant comet]

Was surprised sp and po isn't a thing

[prisma flume]

which by process of deduction means this is the japanese flag 🗾

[dusty pollen]

...the actual combination is "black flag + gbwls"? why

[steel kraken]

that I think is an actual emoji

[prisma flume]

gbwls does look like welsh

assuming it's short for great britain, wales

[steel kraken]

remember that the origins of Emoji is proprietary Japanese characters that were used prior to them migrating to Unicode

it blew up in the west when Apple added it to their keyboards for japan but wasn't region locked

[prisma flume]

for sure, hence all the dolls, castle, flags, etc emoji

[steel kraken]

🏩 not going to give further context for server rules

[terse galleon]

i'd like a virginia flag emoji but it would probably violate TOS of several platforms lol

[prisma flume]

🔰 is another one of those that simply only makes sense in japan

[terse galleon]

what IS the context of that one

[prisma flume]

no idea what the origin is, i just know it's used for learner drivers

[terse galleon]

i see

[steel kraken]

🗻 🏣(has the JP postal mark on the building) 💱

🈁🈂️🈷️🈶🉐🈹🈲🉑🈸🈴🈳🈺🈵

[dusty pollen]

lmao that is not what I was expecting

(I believe the real reason there aren't state flags is that the states of the US aren't actually differentiated anywhere in ISO, and only actual countries get to have two-letter flag shortcuts, which is why wales has a separate emoji instead)

[steel kraken]

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 are also countries that just so happen to also be in the country of the United kingdom.
Country in a country

Much like member states of the EU are still countries

[dusty pollen]

they are, but you will note none of them have their own two letter flags, because while the UK calls its member states countries, they are not what we consider independent countries

we have one single government

[red crest]

your country is also full of littler governments

[dusty pollen]

most countries are, I would argue

[red crest]

source? :/ /j

[dusty pollen]

source: mayoral elections are local government elections 😌

[red crest]

do you count the whole country as local

[steel kraken]

The bridge wont let me move any piece a pixel to reduce cost anymore

[dusty pollen]

hey australians

I know there are like three of you on this channel

what's going on with lord howe island's dst

[cyan shadow]

Can confirm, India is made of one big central government and multiple state governments where they sometimes throw shoes at each other

[little furnace]

Would it be against the rules of the server to post something like the picture of the flag when it makes sense in context and uses spoiler warnings together with content warning?

[cyan shadow]

I just looked it up and damn
We should've had a flag like this immediately post-independence

[little furnace]

I want my region to be an independent German state, and the inofficial flag is part of the reason.

[little furnace]

I wonder why Northern Ireland doesn't have a flag.

[hushed raven]

I missed the Wales discussion??? Damn

[pliant snow]

gestures at history

[dusty pollen]

I'm honestly not sure, it's the real state flag and not sexual so I would say it's fine?

I think "is it literally unsuitable for work" is a good guideline

[little furnace]

Like playing Opus Magnum?

[dusty pollen]

I don't think there would be a big issue with having the flag of virginia on your monitor for a second during work hours

[prisma flume]

to be honest i've never really thought about lord howe island. surprised it's technically in my state despite being halfway to norfolk island

maybe one day it could be an independent german state

[cinder karma]

On the scale from Starbucks logo to original Starbucks logo

[little furnace]

Not Safe For Work is so weird. Like, doesn't it fully depend on your work environment? In a bank even Solitaire could get you fired. But some other kinds of work I won't specify might have different standards. But that's still work and calling it anything else doesn't seem fair.

[cinder karma]

Okay, aboit 75% of the way to it

[prisma flume]

not suitable for weak

[cinder karma]

Blueberry can we convince you on pretty chemistry game

Norway?

[hushed raven]

no way I assume

[little furnace]

:flag_no:

[cinder karma]

@ selph @ iro new journal page!

[devout vault]

6 hours away for the entire week

[devout vault]

An H with a vital organ. Clearly it’s a hospital

Whatever iOS I’m on

[dusty pollen]

probably near the original

[sand frost]

what about bridges game?

[dusty pollen]

if you ever start judging js devs for leftpad, just remember js doesn't have a string method for making it title case to this day

[devout vault]

…do most languages?

Like to upper and lower, sure

[lethal walrus]

im not aware of any that do

[devout vault]

But title case?

[hushed raven]

python does, str.title() iirc

although apostrophies bugger it I just found out

[safe dragon]

I think C#'s JsonNamingPolicy string converter only does camelcase, snakecase and kebabcase

[lethal walrus]

title case would lowercase of/a wouldn't it

whereas .title() uppercases them

[cinder karma]

Python is a language that has both lowercase and casefold

[safe dragon]

There's apparently a TextInfo.ToTitleCase() method

[hushed raven]

Oh good point, Did not think of of/a

[dusty pollen]

both are legal

[safe dragon]

C#'s version I guess lives in the culture dependent stuff cause what title casing means differs by language

I guess even Dutch would have a difference with English for that one

since ij in dutch is actually considered a single letter, "ijzer" would be capitalized as IJzer

wonder if it does that

time to test

[hushed raven]

wait, "IJzer" is the correct way of writing it? or that's the way .title() in a language would probably handle it?

[safe dragon]

IJzer would be the correct way to title case the word ijzer in dutch yes

since writing ij was more a convenience born out of computers not have a dedicated character for the letter we have

[hushed raven]

Oh wow, I'm not sure if Welsh or Dutch has the weird capitalisation of digraphs then?

Ohhh no dedicated character that makes more sense

[safe dragon]

looks like C# indeed does it correctly

[frosty echo]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IJ_(digraph)

[safe dragon]

it's effectively a y with dots

normally speaking when handwritten

[hushed raven]

Welsh being left out of c# CultureInfo smh, I wanted to see if it had the correct capitalisation of welsh digraphs

[cinder karma]

Why cant I find the python str.title source

[hushed raven]

Oh wait it does have it! cy-GB, time to test it

[dusty pollen]

now do it for hebrew

[safe dragon]

I like how "javascript doesn't even have titlecasing built in" immediately turned into "yeah title casing is actually language dependent and can be very complicated"

wonder if python does it right or not

the skeptic in me says it wouldn't

[cinder karma]

Absolutely certainly wrong

[safe dragon]

but I don't even know how python handles cultures at all

[cinder karma]

I found the source code

[safe dragon]

text.split(" ").map(s => s[0].upper() + s[1..]).join(" ") of course (idk python)

[hushed raven]

How are you doing this because I got a capitalisation of "Ijzer" using this:

using System;
using System.Globalization;

public class HelloWorld
{
    public static void Main(string[] args)
    {
        var invariantTextInfo = CultureInfo.InvariantCulture.TextInfo;
        var dutchTextInfo = new CultureInfo("nl-NL").TextInfo;
        
        Console.WriteLine ("Invariant: " + invariantTextInfo.ToTitleCase("ijzer"));
        Console.WriteLine ("Dutch: " + dutchTextInfo.ToTitleCase("ijzer"));
    }
}

[cinder karma]

https://github.com/python/cpython/issues/51257

[hushed raven]

(probably got something wrong I'm sure)

[cinder karma]

You'd think but that is actually the implementation of string.capwords

[safe dragon]

that looks exactly identical to what I ran

I ran mine in .NET 10 if that matters...

[cinder karma]

Which is a different function and fails on other word boundaries

You can try a variant that uses regex replace

[hushed raven]

I ran it in https://www.programiz.com/csharp-programming/online-compiler/, Is the site just an interpreter and not compiler then hence the weirdness? (I just couldn't be bothered starting rider)

[safe dragon]

not inspiring that it doesn't even tell you want version it's using

[hushed raven]

it really doesn't

[cinder karma]

Atlas, the one thing I will absolutely miss from Windows is Linqpad

Also. Use compiler explorer

[safe dragon]

copy pasted the exact code that did work on my pc into that website and it doesn't work there

[frosty echo]

Maybe https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/unicodeobject.c#L9878

[hushed raven]

Linqpad does seem insanely useful, if I ever did C# before switching I probably would miss it too ngl

[safe dragon]

well damn we're getting some very special specific treatment

the dutch culture check is pretty much the first thing in the method lmao

sorry y'all for my language making .ToTitleCase() slower

[cinder karma]

Fucking hilarious

[hushed raven]

Oh good welsh is formatted correctly in C# but it does follow regular "as if seperate" symantics

also I am now not trusting that site anymore XD I got the right answer with actually running dotnet 10 and dotnet 6

[heavy dagger]

New quote added by atravita as #7857 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1491504993738559539)

[errant comet]

Changed the font to some sdv one and now im not sure if it looks better than b4

Should I keep sdv font or go back to the (b)old one

[glad burrow]

i like this one its cute

[errant comet]

sadly WE doesn't support font options so I gotta choose one

[rain apex]

It's more sdv but i don't enjoy the wiggly pixels

Perhaps that's merely discord compression tho

[safe dragon]

I think this is committing some font design sins

but sdv might be doing the same

[errant comet]

Oh yeah it was something on my side

[errant comet]

I edited some stuff and scales but it didnt help

[rain apex]

I'm not sure if i just did it wrong

[errant comet]

probably mixels too

[rain apex]

Dont worry I didn't release P ut into the world

[errant comet]

theres some proper font for this ui thing but its not a font its a texture

like this

which looks better

[rain apex]

Personally I wouldn't care too much about using exactly sdv font

[errant comet]

yeah its something I consider doing

[rain apex]

See if there's other pixel ish font that look better

[errant comet]

previous font was better

(and it was tboi font)

[safe dragon]

keming is my passion

[fleet wren]

not SDV but I came to the exact conclusion when I tried making widgets using another game's pixel font

tl;dr it looked hideous

[safe dragon]

it's interesting how taking fonts out of their original context can really fuck em up

I mean I'm sure almost all these pixel fonts are desigend by people who have no background in font design

so that probably doesn't help

[errant comet]

Jersey looks promising

[safe dragon]

I recently found out that next to italic there's also oblique

both are slanted glyphs but for italic these are a separate glyph while for oblique it's just a slanted version of the normal glyph

tbh the more I learn about fonts the more I realize it's a giant rabbit hole of its own

[cinder karma]

Just like title case

[safe dragon]

so much worse...

[errant comet]

Looks like an improvement

[fleet wren]

like wdym you can run doom in a font file

[safe dragon]

what...

I saw some people complaining that font files have gotten a little convoluted but that's goes a little far

[rain apex]

Elaborate

[fleet wren]

truetype fonts can use extra logic to determine how to render certain character combos (kerning/ligatures/etc.)

said logic is turing complete

https://github.com/4RH1T3CT0R7/ttf-doom

[dusty pollen]

selph I looked up how to do something in js today and the answer was “it’s easier in css”. for text processing 😭

[safe dragon]

look it's font-variation-settings that one was in CSS or BS

[dusty pollen]

not even that. it was the title case thing

[safe dragon]

I mean it's what ttf-doom uses

[dusty pollen]

ah

[safe dragon]

title casing... tbh it would not surprise me if that's in css somewhere

I'm glad it comes with two big warnings

Used to automatically render text in math italic where appropriate.

math italic

[frosty echo]

In Dutch (nl), the ij digraph becomes IJ, even with text-transform: capitalize, which only puts the first letter of a word in uppercase.

[safe dragon]

correct we just talked about this

who knew Dutch fucked shit up so much

oh good there's not just math italics there's also upright italics

ah of course Donald Knuth managed to worm his way into another wiki page

Donald Knuth's Computer Modern has an alternate upright italic as an alternative to its standard italic, since its intended use is mathematical typesetting.

[cinder karma]

Every time I accidentally use Bing I learn smth new about microsodt

Do u know there are two different ai summaries on Bing now

[safe dragon]

oh exciting

do they argue with each other

[cinder karma]

I'm doing bullshit with makefiles again and yes, the two disagree

[errant comet]

value is alpha of a day sky foreground image with night sky background, 0-24h timeOfDay is [0-1]

export function update(value) {
    if (engine.timeOfDay < 0.5){value = engine.timeOfDay*2};
    if (engine.timeOfDay >= 0.5){value = 1-(engine.timeOfDay-0.5)*2};
    return value;
}

seemingly work for me

how do I edit my time on pc I wanna test it

[cinder karma]

I like how i can use find and swd to edit a bunch of files

I also like how I can use git to.make sure sed didn't misfire

[errant comet]

made it fully time dynamic yay
I hate how second row of mountains doesn't follow the lightness order tho ugh

[errant comet]

whats swd?

[safe dragon]

sandwich with dignity

[long verge]

does that imply sandwich without dignity ?

[safe dragon]

yes

[long verge]

what did they do

:(

[errant comet]

sand witch you say

no wonder I get accussed of witch craft

[weak obsidian]

windows is having a heart attack

[long verge]

actually that's the intended behavior when you expand you taskbar iirc

[weak obsidian]

i opened an app

i dont think i added a taskbar

idk how i would even check

I FIXED IT

YAY

[long verge]

if you want a permanent fix : https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Installation_guide

[weak obsidian]

LMAO

I cant

on my main rig

its a NVIDIA 4070!

and a 240hz monitor

every distro has many issues with my setup

[long verge]

sadge

glad i'm still rocking my 2060

[weak obsidian]

what hz is ur monitor

[weak obsidian]

KDE has a lot of frame pacing issues

GNOME was way better for me as a nvidia user

didnth ave the problems with high DPIs nor high refresh rates

i do run music locally, and even on my old pc, on some songs there is a 1-1.5 second delay after 1-2 seconds of playing the song of nothing, then it continues again

idk what that bug means

[long verge]

27" 180hz 0.2ms and 27" 165hz 0.8ms

[weak obsidian]

what DE?

and distro

i assume its either arch based or pure arch

[errant comet]

I love my 60 hzs

and 59.96 hz a bit

[weak obsidian]

60hz 27 inch monitor? i would cri...

[long verge]

arch with KDE plasma (mostly)

[errant comet]

27 INCH?

[weak obsidian]

what doe mostly mean

[long verge]

tried hyprland but didn't like it much

[errant comet]

no probably 27cm lol

[weak obsidian]

ohh is this a laptop

if its not

27 inch

[errant comet]

NOP

[weak obsidian]

i speak american

idk what that means

[errant comet]

idk inches sorry

[weak obsidian]

is it like

a phone screen

laptop

pc

[errant comet]

its 2.55cm or some

[weak obsidian]

tv

[errant comet]

I can eyeball my diagonal wait

[weak obsidian]

can i have a translator

[hushed raven]

27 inch isnt that big?

[long verge]

bro

[hushed raven]

.wolfram 27 inch to cm

[long verge]

it's huge

[weak obsidian]

usually pc monitors

[heavy dagger]

68.58 cm (centimeters)

[weak obsidian]

my PC monitor is 27 (68 CM)

my uncles is that popular curved 38 inch

i prefer 27 for my monitor tho

32 is too big for me

[errant comet]

okay I found it online

20"

[hushed raven]

27 inche is a pretty decent size, could not live without my second monitor as well though

[weak obsidian]

ohh

[weak obsidian]

is it like

the ones u see inthose coding videos

wow my internet is slow

[long verge]

is he a billionaire or sum

those are like 1500$

[errant comet]

I like it its good

[weak obsidian]

he is not, heruns at 3070 and 16gb ddr4 ram

[hushed raven]

mine are just standard 60hz, 27 inch and a 20ish inch

[weak obsidian]

he just needs big monitors for gaming

[weak obsidian]

ohh

[errant comet]

big phone

[frosty echo]

Light and dark?

[weak obsidian]

for work, laptops at 60hz is good, i cannot do 60hz desktop monitors, i never have i believe, id recommend a 90-120hz as a standard practice for desktop monoitors

144/165 is beautiful for gaming

anything higher means ur crazy

[errant comet]

nothing beats this

[weak obsidian]

like me

i love my 240hz

[errant comet]

I still have original stickers too!

[weak obsidian]

i got a 1440p 240hz fast-ips, for 120 bucks, an acer

[weak obsidian]

DANG

[errant comet]

that and my gtx 1060

best team

[hushed raven]

monitors are one of the things I don't spend much on really, if its big enough to have two windows on screen at once then it's good enough for me, I certainly don't need mega accurate colours or more than 60hz, not for the price jump anyway

[long verge]

use to rock a gtx 970