Snack good!
#programmers-off-topic
cyan shadow
modest steppe
this should be applied worldwide
cyan shadow
I had a late night one a little while ago
little furnace
this should be applied worldwide
A lot of people would be overweight then.
modest steppe
how angry are people
little furnace
Yes.
cyan shadow
Bea you have no idea
I sometimes spend an entire day in what can charitably be described as a snit
modest steppe
Bea is a being of not many knowlege
safe dragon
everyone should pack an emergency sultana
modest steppe
like im angry sometimes but, it wears off at the end yknow
cyan shadow
Especially if five years were spent in hell
cyan shadow
everyone should pack an emergency sultana
I had to throw my emergency sultanas away because they expired :(
cyan shadow
To be fair 6 years of uni will do that to you
And during family law I was ALWAYS angry
safe dragon
damn
cyan shadow
I'll get new ones when I get back
My emergency erwtensoep is well within the date at least
modest steppe
quill i know u meant something else but know i am imagning u getting new family
i should, head to bed
cyan shadow
quill i know u meant something else but know i am imagning u getting new family
Eepy time for bea
For me too actually
I need to pack tomorrow
little furnace
0:30
Goodnight to all of you.
cyan shadow
I need to pack tomorrow
And I need to go get an extra bike lock to chain my bike to the backyard bike cover thingy since my neighbours never remember to lock the yard. I want my bike to still be there when I get home.
safe dragon
oh right I have work tomorrow
cyan shadow
0:30
Goodnight to all of you.
Goodnight!
cyan shadow
oh right I have work tomorrow
... No holidays yet? 
cyan shadow
Oh no
cinder karma
oh right I have work tomorrow
So do I!
cyan shadow
Godspeed, crumb
safe dragon
I do have the time between christmas and new year off
also the friday after new year
safe dragon
it's ok. From experience these days are always super chill
almost no one is around and no one expects anything to get done
people don't even want things to get done because that means they have to deal with that just before christmas
cyan shadow
I interned around this time once and I had to explain to an associate that my family actually celebrates Christmas and I won't be working that day
"But are you actually celebrating it or just using it as an excuse to sleep in"
Me, internally: "Do you want me to go to midnight mass and take a selfie to prove that we do more than sleep????"
safe dragon
wtf
cyan shadow
I don't remember what happened to her
Can go kick the coal Santa sent her for all I care
safe dragon
my current employer does not allow you to work between christmas and new year. They are mandated days off
safe dragon
oh this was in india not interning here
cyan shadow
She didn't realize from my name that I probably would be celebrating
cyan shadow
oh this was in india not interning here
I never interned here and now I'm suffering because that's the best way to get a job
safe dragon
rough
internships don't really exist for software development jobs here I don't think
cyan shadow
If your company needs a privacy officer... I'm available starting second week of January 
cyan shadow
internships don't really exist for software development jobs here I don't think
They absolutely do, and y'all get paid better, even
cyan shadow
The Boi is interning rn at a large company
He's being paid 500 a month for four days a week, the software interns get twice that iirc
safe dragon
too used to the word internship being prefixed with unpaid
cyan shadow
in my head internship meant unpaid
Most of mine were unpaid but Indian law firms REALLY like paying with experience, the skinflints
safe dragon
I suppose I had a kind of internship. The utrecht uni's software dev bachelor's finishes with a 6 month uni arranged team project thing where they set you up with a real client and you have to build something for them within those 6 months
cyan shadow
The Boi is interning rn at a large company
He's being paid 500 a month for four...
He did learn a lot, and has better connections now, at least
cyan shadow
That's a university project, yeah
That's not the same
It's instead of a thesis, right?
safe dragon
it is
cyan shadow
Ye
safe dragon
it's been like 6 years I think the starter salaries have gone up
cinder karma
Night night
devout vault
internships don't really exist for software development jobs here I don't think
<flashbacks to the thing I saw where you essentially pay to be an intertn>
(I know you're not in the US, but it still gave me flashbacks)
That's a lot of words to say "yeah this basically is an internship that you pay for"
Also, it's not for them, it's basically an agency
I haven't been able to find out if they are also charging the companies
And no it isn't a small amount
12 weeks, 10 hour a week minimum
In case you were wondering, yes, of course it's game dev, who else could be exploited as easily
safe dragon
technically in their explanation they never dispute that it is different from an internship you have to pay for
devout vault
technically in their explanation they never dispute that it is different from an...
Yeah it's just funny that they basically say "yeah we know that's what you're thinking, and we aren't even going to deny it"
safe dragon
sure love being forced to pay for things before you are allowed to do anything that earns you money
devout vault
Even better. Before you do anything that will kinda partially help you maybe earn money one day in the future
safe dragon
also called the education system
cinder karma
sure love being forced to pay for things before you are allowed to do anything t...
Isn't that college
safe dragon
yes
long verge
That's a lot of words to say "yeah this basically is an internship that you pay ...
Having to pay to work at a company 😍
cinder karma
devout vault
Jokes on them, I forgot how to learn skills long before generative AI
dusty pollen
In case you were wondering, yes, of course it's game dev, who else could be expl...
ah, the joy of "passion" careers
lyric bloom
m y college requires a set number of internship hours
most of these interrnships are unpaid if you can find them
hushed raven
I'm sorry I beg your pardon?? How much have yous been talking XD
safe dragon
a bit
safe dragon
ah, the joy of "passion" careers
🙏
cinder karma
In case you were wondering, yes, of course it's game dev, who else could be expl...
Nine. Nine. Six
dusty pollen
Nine. Nine. Six
are you okay
devout vault
I'm sorry I *beg your pardon??* How much have yous been talking XD
That's all?
hushed raven
It's the most I've ever seen for sure XD
devout vault
And atra I have no idea what 996 is supposed to mean
cinder karma
are you okay
(I'm okay!)
devout vault
It's the most I've ever seen for sure XD
I know I've seen double that before, at least back before we got this channel
Possibly before the #making-mods-general and #making-mods-art split
That would be my dad, who can fall asleep in like less than a minute.
I'm not jealous, nooo, not at all.
dusty pollen
That would be my dad, who can fall asleep in like less than a minute.
I'm not j...
we joke that my dad is asleep before his head hits the pillow
cinder karma
Sleep is good
cinder karma
Coffee is awesome
cinder karma
Maybe I should run another marathon
cyan shadow
we joke that my dad is asleep before his head hits the pillow
I don't even need to joke about my dad, I've witnessed him fall asleep while waiting in line once
He wasn't even sleep-walking, just perfectly balanced for a nap on his feet
Complete with snoring
I should study his brain under a microscope
safe dragon
used to hang out with a guy with some kind of sleep disorder. Definitely wasn't a positive thing but he'd sometimes just fall asleep in the middle of a conversation and then be gone for a few minutes at most and then he'd be awake again with no idea that he was ever asleep
cyan shadow
My dad is just easily bored and presumably mastered standing sleeping out of boredom in his youth
He's like a cryptid sometimes /affectionate
cinder karma
😨
Fwiw when I close my eyes in a long run and settle in I'm not actually asleep....
modest steppe
My dad is just easily bored and presumably mastered standing sleeping out of bor...
this is a dad superpower
mine does it too
sand frost
Fwiw when I close my eyes in a long run and settle in I'm not actually asleep......
Don’t you have to check where the trees are??
cinder karma
Open your eyes every now and then to make sure you're not going off trail tbh
This is interesting
pliant snow
Number 15,732 will shock you!
cinder karma
I mean part of it is the difference between American and Asian work culture tbh
dusty pollen
I don't even need to joke about my dad, I've witnessed him fall asleep while wai...
my mum used to be able to do that!
dusty pollen
for a moment I thought I saw @safe dragon in modded farmers and got very confused
safe dragon
don't worry I've never sent a message there in my entire life
I only have 2 messages in #stardew-valley let alone modded
and one of those was trying to divert a bad conversation as a moderator
dusty pollen
how long until those messages are old enough to have their own discord accounts
safe dragon
my oldest messages will be turning 10 in a month
so 3 more years
the #stardew-valley messages are only 5.5 years old
so a long time to go
to be fair, the channel is also only 5.5 years old
cinder karma
You were a moderator
safe dragon
twice yes
dusty pollen
I knew that one!
safe dragon
back in 2016 and then another time in 2020
dusty pollen
there are a few random ex moderators floating around
dusty pollen
the other one is “should I save up for strawberry seeds in year 1” 
safe dragon
yeah to divert a bad conversation
steel kraken
my discord account did turn 10 recently
safe dragon
oh wait no
that was a different channel
that one was just a meme
a few sentences later
I know I once posted a random question in a stardew channel just to get people to stop talking about politics or something
dusty pollen
in the past I have successfully diverted a bad conversation by asking modded farmers if they could swap any two npcs’ hair who would it be and why. junis take notes
(/lh)
dusty pollen
update your oldest message?
dusty pollen
did you know you have the fifth oldest surviving quote in the server
safe dragon
oh no
dusty pollen
.q 6
heavy daggerBOT
safe dragon
wow it's stardew valley related
dusty pollen
dw by surviving I mean post quote purge
safe dragon
I remember when they had to do a big purge cause in the feeblebeeble/aihr era people were quoting every time someone used the word fart
rain apex
.q 1
heavy daggerBOT
No quote found. Wow, chat more, losers.
rain apex
.q 2
heavy daggerBOT
dusty pollen
back in 2016 and then another time in 2020
.q 531
heavy daggerBOT
safe dragon
yup
I didn't even have any modding rights
couldn't delete messages
couldn't kick
lewis hadn't set it up right yet
damn seeing the names of all the people with early quotes
I remember all of them
other than 2016 idk who that is smh
rain apex
.q 6480
heavy daggerBOT
safe dragon
thanks 6480
those early quotes really show what a strange place this was back then
.q 158
heavy daggerBOT
hardy jewel
We went through the quotes list and deleted hundreds from the early days that were simply too NSFW or fucked up now
so the ones that remain are very mild
dusty pollen
We went through the quotes list and deleted hundreds from the early days that we...
-# sorry about that again lmao
dusty pollen
I was expecting you guys to just delete everything pre a certain date!
safe dragon
there's still some very questionable stuff in there
I'm not sorry btw
hope you had fun
hardy jewel
Even 2020 was a totally different vibe with lots of very out there quotes so deleting everything pre that would be awful
it’s good enough now 
safe dragon
I've got some nice quotes
if I say so myself
also really bad ones
please delete those
safe dragon
I seem to have dozens
dusty pollen
I considered letting uber find a random quote from you and decided against it because of that
safe dragon
I'm not proud of some of these what an immature child
dusty pollen
I did figure tbh, they are pretty old haha
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by atravita as #6857 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1452798467301707889)
hardy jewel
freshly 18
heavy daggerBOT
safe dragon
lmao
hardy jewel
it’s poetry ✨
dusty pollen
I believe it’s an instance of my policy of quoting anyone who’s asking why they were quoted
heavy daggerBOT
safe dragon
nothing has lived up to that since
steel kraken
.quote @steel kraken
heavy daggerBOT
dusty pollen
.q irocendar
heavy daggerBOT
heavy daggerBOT
safe dragon
dusty pollen
we aren’t doing random commands tbf, we’re sharing with the class
safe dragon
safe dragon
definitely welcome
dusty pollen
steel kraken
I saw that junimos
dusty pollen
if casey starts talking about kar again which name do you think will win
safe dragon
pets always win
dusty pollen
true
cinder karma
prisma flume
pretty much all of my quotes died
'we had to remove all the truly freaky quotes. none of mine survived 
'
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by atravita as #6861 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1452807233938133103)
hardy jewel
devout vault
if casey starts talking about kar again which name do you think will win
did someone say KAR?
(wow I missed the quote party, AND a transient channel name. sad)
Unfortunately my newest non-informational quote (ie. pre-custom-commands, but also why was "Right now magic has a level cap of 50 and no professions" quoted) is from mid 2021 despite being here much longer
.q 5335
heavy daggerBOT
heavy daggerBOT
safe dragon
damn you're famous
devout vault
I used to be the one known for an absurd frequency of making mods, not aedenthorn 😔
also cat is now blocking discord
He moved before I could take a picture in front of discord
devout vault
I relayed the message and he ignored me
Just continued his grooming
Because for some reason, being on my desk = grooming time
Kirby would stay up here just to chill and hang out with me, but Mozart needs me to watch him groom his rear. Every. Time.
lyric bloom
wow
lethal walrus
Why even bother put ram in it at that point
hushed raven
Well, spent a while figuring out how to change over from an Nvidia GPU to AMD, only to find out post driver uninstallation, the GPU is dud! Should've tested it in another computer before assuming it was drivers XD
hasty sinew
the new project is working
heavy tree
dawg. what technological demons r u summoning
hushed raven
mathematical ones I think?
hasty sinew
dawg. what technological demons r u summoning
I'm fully simulating a 5-stage pipelined RISC-V processor
and creating an interactive learning tool with a Blazor web server and a Maui desktop app for it
the goal is to replace/supercede RARS, MARS, RARS Nova and Venus in University uArch learning, and offer a richer featureset more in-line with something like SPIKE, but with the academic transparency that RARS and other educational assemblers have
basically, it simulates the processor cycle by cycle, tells you the register values, supports 64 and 32b modes
a few other things
I'm currently building the engine and API
those logs are the results of running a few algorithms on it
for example this is the fibonnaci sequence
this calculates the greatest common denominator of two integers
safe dragon
as someone who's a hater of both blazor and maui I wish u good luck on that part
hasty sinew
Blazor seems great, but I'm not handling the web side
safe dragon
it's probably a good choice for what you're doing with it
hasty sinew
Maui is moreso as a fallback, in case someone wants a native desktop app, since RARS offers that
but the really big thing was I wanted to mostly use 1 language as much as possible
that said... my friend hit me with one of the worst messages of my life
safe dragon
I've done native maui with the xaml layout instead of Blazor and it was not great at the time... but it was also brand new so I'd like to think that improved
hasty sinew
safe dragon
we actually stopped using scss just so we could drop the npm dependency
at my old job
it can be avoided but you'll have to accept living in your .net bubble without Javascript libraries
hasty sinew
Tailwinds PostCSS requirement may prove problematic
safe dragon
I'm sure it's possible
hasty sinew
yeah
but who wants to write semi-native CSS?
safe dragon
I'm a regular css file enjoyer
hasty sinew
I think the engine is the main wow-factor for this project
safe dragon
I'd hope so
hasty sinew
the blazor/maui stuff is just a wrapper for the logic framework
dusty pollen
I have a tiny little discord bot I've been making recently and the node_modules dir is over 1GB 😭
hasty sinew
bruh
dusty pollen
that's just how npm is tbh
hasty sinew
not in my experience
dusty pollen
depends what you need to add 
safe dragon
not to brag but my work web app I build has 0 vulnerabilities according to npm
I couldn't believe my eyes
dusty pollen
iirc the only dependencies on that bot are discordjs, axios, and cheerio
safe dragon
there's always at least like 25
once has a project with over 200 mild vulnerabilities that just kinda sat there
hasty sinew
concurrently is one of the greatest node packages ever made
task automation through npm is just really nice
dusty pollen
true
safe dragon
don't use that one
dusty pollen
I think I used to use a different package that's very similar to concurrently?
npm-run-all
safe dragon
I'm more amused that your project is stored in your downloads folder
hasty sinew
quick clone
not the main repo
too lazy to checkout branches so I just keep several on disk
dusty pollen
I'm sure there's a better way to do what I'm doing than cheerio tbh but I don't have the energy to do research rn
so I used the first thing that popped up
hasty sinew
wow, whoever wrote this package description seems lowkey insufferable 😭
safe dragon
it says it's industry standard so ur clearly fine
dusty pollen
wow, whoever wrote this package description seems lowkey insufferable 😭
it's okay I just didn't read it /j
safe dragon
wow, whoever wrote this package description seems lowkey insufferable 😭
it's not a rust project they can't claim to be blazingly fast
hasty sinew
oh, guys not to fret
AIRBNB
if airbnb put their stamp on it, it's good enough for me
safe dragon
tbh that does probably mean it's not going to suddenly be abandoned a month from now
dusty pollen
tbf don't airbnb do a ton of web dev stuff
hasty sinew
yes, but they probably also use dozens of packages across range
its hard to tell much about any given package unless its some dudes you know take it super serious
dusty pollen
yeah I wouldn't use it as a badge of quality or anything
all four of the "other sponsors" are casinos
uncut seal
all I know about airbnb is that their website is dogshit on mobile
it somehow completely broke my keyboard when I tried to answer a message
hasty sinew
it somehow completely broke my keyboard when I tried to answer a message
me when I react native
hasty sinew
do you ever feel like a tool makes people too lazy or dependant?
React Native
Typescript
Electron
uncut seal
my only web dev experience is raw html+css+js
I'm not gonna lie, the lack of typing (even python like soft typing) in js kinda drove me mad
I can't get autocompletion if my objects can be anything 
js object be like Jevil Deltarune
so yeah, I think I'll take typescript
cyan shadow
Electron is so ass
Speaking as a reluctant user of a few Electron apps, not from a dev standpoint
steel kraken
airbnb is a weird company from an endorsement of web tech.
they kinda set the industry back 3-5 years due to their eslint config being the defacto for ages and it was kinda shit
I dont mind electron as npm install, npm build npm start pretty much just works, and dont need to deal with any of the madness that is C toolchains
I prefer true web to electron, but will accept it if the usecase truly needs access to api's that aren't implemented in browsers yet
hasty sinew
Electron is so ass
I would ordinarily agree
but then again
electron can be really good, it just often isnt
Discord's use of electron is dogshit, but VSCode does it well 🤷♂️
safe dragon
it's all ass if ram is becoming 6 million dollars per GB
cause electron isn't exactly memory efficient
cyan shadow
Yeah my problem with it is the RAM usage, I have 16 gigs of ram in my laptop and I would like for discord to not use half of it
cyan shadow
Discord's use of electron is dogshit, but VSCode does it well 🤷♂️
Yeah VSCodium barely uses any resources I've noticed
Very nice
hasty sinew
at the end of the day, real memory usage isnt the number you see in Task manager
people scare over having too little ram. That's not the issue for 99.99% of cases, dont worry
dusty pollen
I mean, my 8GB ddr3? maybe? laptop definitely doesn’t have enough ram but it also isn’t the only bottleneck
steel kraken
for most of discord I agree electron isn't needed.
but voice calls are better in electron than in web
cyan shadow
people scare over having too little ram. That's not the issue for 99.99% of case...
Oh I see the slowdowns, that's the only reason I grumble
The laptop is quite beefy and handles a lot of things with no trouble, so when it actually starts lagging, it's very visible
hasty sinew
I mean, my 8GB ddr3? maybe? laptop definitely doesn’t have enough ram but it als...
how old is your laptop?
hasty sinew
Oh I see the slowdowns, that's the only reason I grumble
yeah thats primarily caching and delivery optimization that comes with more ram. My primary point is that it's not a functional requirement, and clever coding can bypass that need
safe dragon
tell that to my work pc with 16 GB throwing out of memory warnings at me
safe dragon
that OS probably wasn't windows
hasty sinew
true
safe dragon
I wish windows would give more info on how much memory is actually used and how much is simply being reserved
and that task manager actually told you what is being used by system processes
bleak snow
For the stardew people here, and sorry if I am disruption/asking again, but for people with some knowledge on programming.
Any feedback on this? https://github.com/DaanSelen/stardew-multiplayer
safe dragon
it's not great when you're sitting at 13GB of memory used and then you check task manager and nothing is using more than like 200 MB
hasty sinew
and that task manager actually told you what is being used by system processes
tools exist for that
Rammap and Process explorer being the main ones
safe dragon
I don't use windows anymore it's too late for that info
I mean I use it for work but I'd get assassinated by our security officer for installing that
hasty sinew
now you just btop?
safe dragon
yes
safe dragon
many
cyan shadow
What am I looking at
prisma flume
a list of available asm instructions on the platform?
cyan shadow
a list of available asm instructions on the platform?
(I don't know what those are, I'm the imposter in this channel, remember? )
hasty sinew
(I don't know what those are, I'm the imposter in this channel, remember? <:SDVk...
your computer doesnt understand complicated instructions that exist as code
it uses a compiler, which converts it into a format the computer can understand
Assembly is a way of representing those instructions and what they do
Assembly instructions are basically the most fundamental representations of how your computer is doing work, without abstracting down to actual binary
cyan shadow
Ahhhh
cyan shadow
Assembly instructions are basically the most fundamental representations of how ...
Ty for explaining!
safe dragon
in x86 especially these instructions become very long and strange
you'll get like VDBPSADBW
VDBPSADBW — Double Block Packed Sum-Absolute-Differences (SAD) on Unsigned Bytes
a real avx512 instruction
all so easy to remember
I know this one exists because the PS3 emulator uses it
hasty sinew
we love SIMD
steel kraken
(single instruction, multiple data, aka do this action in bulk)
safe dragon
why add two numbers when you can add 4 pairs of numbers at once
ez
and then do that on 4 cores for 16 pairs of numbers at once
stonks
do it on the gpu instead of simd and do 2000 at once
use NVLink to use multiple gpus at once...
it keeps going
go the distributed computing route and make a whole server farm add numbers for u
now we're at the scale of AI data centers
cinder karma
Now we're printing money
hasty sinew
the type of quality commit history we want to see
(in all honesty its a shitpost but this is my initial implementation)
topaz smelt
the type of quality commit history we want to see
Goated
thin estuary
it keeps going
HTTP GET acme.com/api/v1/add/2/2
prisma flume
(I don't know what those are, I'm the imposter in this channel, remember? <:SDVk...
i suppose the focus here is that different platforms can have different instructions available, or with different names and implementations, hence writing a script to give you a list of what's available.
it's something of a roadblock to cross-platform programming, and one of the big components/considerations of emulating other platforms.
not that ive ever used assembly myself, or have any real interest in it
tidal charm
@devout vault I was told you would appreciate some cat pics, here is my Munchkin
And these are our outdoor ferals, the orange is Shakespeare and the fluffy gray is Hathaway. The Siamese looking one and baby don't have names yet, other than "Shakespeare's wife and child"
thick plover
this is the game I was talking about in #town-square ! welcome to Grid Garden^^
devout vault
(Discovered on reddit of course, I don't just browse github)
And don't worry you rustacean heathens, they have you covered
rain apex
safe dragon
oh good
crystal wren
They'd better rename that to no-as-a-service-rs to avoid incurring the foundation's wrath. /j
hushed raven
Does anyone know of a tiling window manager I can toss ontop of KDE? I did find bismuth but it seems to be archived due to KDE adding tiling in v5.27, but I cannot find any settings for it at all
rain apex
I thought kde implies u r doing de 
hushed raven
I like a mix of both XD
hushed raven
Love the integration between everything and how well it's tossed together, but the manual tiling I'm not a fan of XD
rain apex
I don't use these things so don't ask me if it's good
hushed raven
Oooo thank you!
rain apex
I think most of my screen time is some kinda big window (game, vscode, browser arguably) so i never really grasped tiling wm
pliant snow
This is another one I've heard of https://github.com/peterfajdiga/karousel
hushed raven
I have two monitors, my primary one is usually a single big window, but the secondary one I tend to have many things open at once, I did try combinging a tilling window manager and a scrolling one, but crashed when I scrolled slightly too far which was a shame
cinder karma
Chue do you know if there is a tiling browser
pliant snow
KDE is/has added the ability to set different virtual desktops on different monitors, which also might help
safe dragon
chrome allows you to open tabs side by side
cinder karma
I'm always in vim but I like having multiple buffers
safe dragon
does that count
cinder karma
No
rain apex
I also do 2 monitors but I just manually tile stuff if I need to
hushed raven
I really need to set back my keybinds, this is horribly confusing XD
Hmm yes totally what I want....
safe dragon
perfect
hushed raven
Ahh yes, typical jank, it is fixed by doing literally nothing
hushed raven
https://codeberg.org/anametologin/Krohnkite
This works flawlessly, I would say better suited to me than hyprland XD
so thank you!
hasty sinew
Does anyone know of a tiling window manager I can toss ontop of KDE? I did find ...
Are you using the x11 or Wayland version of KDE?
hushed raven
wayland (pretty sure)
hasty sinew
https://codeberg.org/anametologin/Krohnkite
Then yeah this
hushed raven
it does work wonderfully, tiny bit jank with custom tile scaling but meh
hasty sinew
Just give in and fully move over to hyprland
hushed raven
I was on hyprland, but I had to reinstall and couldn't be bothered setting up all my configs again (I didn't make a config repo ;_;)
I will probably be going back when I get a working graphics card, at least this will do for mow
Now*
safe dragon
this is a niri channel not a hyprland channel
rain apex
can u explain the difference to me, corporate
safe dragon
can u explain the difference to me, corporate
hyprland is a tiling window manager. Niri is a scrolling window manager
hyprland does have extensions to make it scrolling, though I think the one I initially heard about has been abandoned
hasty sinew
I was on hyprland, but I had to reinstall and couldn't be bothered setting up al...
Just copy some other schmucks dotfiles
hasty sinew
this is a niri channel not a hyprland channel
“I want all of the attached window manager BS with none of the benefits of having more on my screen neatly”
safe dragon
hasty sinew
The resizing that comes from a tiling manager is like 99% of the benefit
Otherwise I’d just make a riced out custom Wayland compositor
steel kraken
every time I might be linux desktop curious I hear conversations like this, and am reminded why I stick with windows
steel kraken
autopilot in planes has been very good for a long time, but we have 1-2 pilots anyway because its scary to rely on it
cinder karma
This is explicitly the plane taking over for an incapacitated pilot
devout vault
I am rewatching some BDG stuff and so am obligated to post this here specifically
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iTAkRHGbuM
prisma flume
every time I might be linux desktop curious I hear conversations like this, and ...
DWM saves us from so much suffering. my love
honestly i know snapping and tiling and workspaces and all that are relatively new to windows but it's strange to think that this implementation is windows-specific and not just how Computers are
granted i've only even used workspaces/desktops in the last month or two and they're annoying as much as they are useful
little furnace
Just give in and fully move over to hyprland
Considering that the Hyprland maintainer and the community are toxic and transphobic, no thanks. I stay with Sway respectively SwayFX.
prisma flume
Maya, how goes three dimensional modeling
autodesk maya is an incredibly efficient program with a surprisingly fast workflow. it stole years of my life in mere months.
devout vault
I didn't realize that was blueberry until I clicked the profile
I almost considered it was a joke about the software matching the person's name, but I wouldn't have assumed atra knew the software's name
safe dragon
compact mode users smh
devout vault
@prisma flume Any particular goal for learning 3d modelling?
devout vault
compact mode users smh
I have profile pictures showing but blueberry's profile picture is not, in fact, a blueberry
safe dragon
damn compact mode has pfps now
That's been their pfp for a long time so I recognize it
you can just barely tell I have my Christmas pfp when it's that small
devout vault
It's a separate setting that's been available for ages
But it keeps turning itself off for some reason
So it disappears for a while and it takes forever for me to remember to turn it on
prisma flume
<@169338783307792385> Any particular goal for learning 3d modelling?
oh no, it was just part of my uni course. definitely the worst part
devout vault
...but also I don't look at profile pictures closely
devout vault
oh no, it was just part of my uni course. definitely the worst part
Oh, so the goal is "not failing".
devout vault
autodesk maya is an incredibly efficient program with a surprisingly fast workfl...
Have you ever tried to learn blender before? How much faster is it to learn?
prisma flume
i picked it up a year or so ago again to try my hand at modelling hats for dota but there's no resources around online, it's basically a closed club of professionals these days with extremely high standards and mostly sculpted models rather than constructed (and mostly ludicrous unfitting designs with outlandish themes instead of simpler and more generic ones)
i've used blender before for some amateur art installations, it's what i used for the dota stuff instead of maya now I think about it
it's extremely good these days, it's come a long way from the 2010-ish era
cinder karma
Secretly, casey, I do know what a video game is
prisma flume
plenty of resources and tutorials for general use, very accessible and documented, and bests maya by being free and stable enough to work for well over 60 minutes without crashing
cinder karma
Don't tell anyone
prisma flume
your secret is safe with us 🙂↕️
devout vault
Secretly, casey, I do know what a video game is
Maya is not a video game
prisma flume
I have profile pictures showing but blueberry's profile picture is not, in fact,...
oh but you should've known. the pfp is from perfect blue 
devout vault
Ah, something I've never watched
cinder karma
That said, I basically dont know anything in detail about anything
Also somehow I lost my water bottle
little furnace
That said, I basically dont know anything in detail about anything
The game Stardew Valley is about a plumber stomping turtles.
devout vault
little furnace
The game Minecraft is about the spiritual journey of solving a Rubik's Cube.
The game My Succubus Girlfriend is about... wait, no, that's a government secret.
hasty sinew
Considering that the Hyprland maintainer and the community are toxic and transph...
wasnt talking to you but pop off
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by sinz163 as #6865 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1453195415527620690)
steel kraken
compact mode users smh
When you have enjoyed the glorious information density of IRC, going back to like 10 messages per screen is unbearable
though I didn't notice that neither of my current discord clients actually had pfp's on anymore and just didn't notice until looking at casey's screenshot
prisma flume
as much as i loathe modern web design having a whole 1~3 elements onscreen at any given time, i also don't want just text
and as little as i want to see all of discords weird profile decorations, i would still like an icon on the names to get some glance value as to who's typing lol
steel kraken
I mean back in the IRC days people didn't constantly change their names nearly as much
prisma flume
inline names also seem a little inconvenient here given how long they can get with @ preferences, mod counts, pronouns, flavour text, mod names, and so on
and server tags, role icons, ..
steel kraken
tbh those are all great reasons to have less of that crap, rather than being a problem with inline names
prisma flume
anyway i only changed my name because i was at the middle of a long mod author off topic about ace attorney in modded-farmers (sorry Zoe hahah)
worn remnant
i like displaying big pfps on discord because then i don't have to see a person's name seven times when they type a bunch of short lines in a row
prisma flume
i'm sure it was still monday somewhere in the world at the time
worn remnant
but that's a formatting choice by discord and isn't inherent to the choice of density
i still have it turned more compact than the default
prisma flume
i do like pfps and role icons but the server tags and font styles and avatar frames are a bit much imo
glad you can disable most of it. very nice
cinder karma
What about gradients
prisma flume
hmmm so-so
cinder karma
Clearly clearly we need to set up a Zephyr instance
prisma flume
mod author legend looks very nice but i don't think much of the animation. also glad you can disable that separately from ui motion
now if only you could disable profile animations separately too
cinder karma
Zephyr (protocol) - Wikipedia https://share.google/eKbxW2ZfXMTdcxsIB
You deserve a gradient, bluebs
Come steal mine
prisma flume
i like purple 🙂↕️ maybe i steal another solid colour sometime
cinder karma
Back in the good days it was black and white
And I could have a dynamic signature as long as I was okay writing bash
dusty pollen
1 engineer, 1 month, 1 million lines of code?
hasty sinew
“Guys rust is so cool, what if we just use AI to make everything rust”
Actual monkey brain
dusty pollen
do they want the one engineer to write a million lines of code or delete a million lines of code?
marble jewel
I could do that, I'll just search for anything that begins with // and delete it. EZ
hasty sinew
do they want the one engineer to write a million lines of code or delete a milli...
Refactor in Rust
rain apex
“Guys rust is so cool, what if we just use AI to make everything rust”
&foo.to_string().into().clone()
fleet wren
"but ai isn't smart enough to fight rust's borrow checker" skill issue I'll just have ai mark every type as Copy
rain apex
I was mildly upset the other day bc there's a function in an internal crate that didn't need to own the arg
And i can't do anything about it
long verge
I'm suddenly happy about W10 not getting updates anymore
devout vault
I saw stuff about this on Reddit semi recently (with everyone clowning on it)
safe dragon
the fuck does any of this mean
also
1 million lines of code per month per engineer?
no one has ever generated technical debt at that speed
devout vault
no one has ever generated technical debt at that speed
safe dragon
you're right
before we know it we're generating 10 million lines of tech debt a month without even needing an engineer
devout vault
If you can’t handle me at my tech debt-iest, you don’t deserve me at my code crime-iest
frosty echo
safe dragon
there have been so many more since then
frosty echo
Let's change "no one understands this code because it was written 20 years ago" into "no one understands this code because a crazy AI wrote it"
safe dragon
my favorite still remains that trying to close task manager would instead launch another instance of task manager
brilliant behavior
so you had to kill task manager in task manager
rain apex
How do ppl who use win11 live
previous times I suffix this question with "without <useful linux thing>"
rain apex
Do u just disable the auto updates
devout vault
I mean, with some mental health issues, but I dont' think win11 is causing that.
I think, no definite proof on that
safe dragon
also in my experience it mostly does still work fine
I do update cause work pc
though the updates are pushed by IT so I don't actually know if I'm behind
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by p.llow as #6866 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1453495828256788572)
rain apex
How are you counting that
dusty pollen
anyway apparently microsoft released a statement saying they are bot in fact replacing all c and c++ with ai
safe dragon
How are you counting that
the server quote list
safe dragon
anyway apparently microsoft released a statement saying they are bot in fact rep...
that's not stopping Galen Hunt
this is his mission
dusty pollen
he had to edit his post actually 
to say he never intended to mean he’s doing it to all microsoft code (which, idk he was pretty clear lmao)
rain apex
“average engineer vibe codes 1 million lines of code a month" factoid actualy (sic) just statistical error. average person vibe codes 0 lines a month. GenAI Galen, who lives in cave & vibes 1 trillion lines each day, is an outlier adn should not have been counted”
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by atravita as #6867 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1453509785575231651)
rain apex
That's longer right
steel kraken
my favorite still remains that trying to close task manager would instead launch...
I live on win11 insider builds and never experienced that bug
safe dragon
either I was lied to on the internet (impossible) or you managed to avoid whatever specific version had that
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by atravita as #6868 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1453518819615314084)
steel kraken
Insider updates are every week and it's always ahead of whatever shows up in actual releases so there's a chance the bug just never was in the release ring I'm on
cinder karma
That's longer right
1.5x
rain apex
I belieb in u atra
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by atravita as #6869 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1453523965942300703)
earnest cairn
didnt really follow Advent of Code this year at all; why are there only 12 days?
ah its just that he only made 12 puzzles it seems. nvm then 😄
safe dragon
yeah
was a short one
and still managed to have my least favorite day he's ever done
🙏
prisma flume
windows 11 has so many small stupid problems but ive never ran into any of the big stupid ones
hasty sinew
all of windows 11s small stupid problems can be fixed with disabling all telemetry, deleting a bunch of the dogshit features like one drive, and balling from there
cinder karma
All of windows 11's problems can be fixed by installing arch
prisma flume
just petit ediot things like 'pressing back in tabbed windows explorer will go to the previous page of all tabs, not the one you were just in'
and 'usually volume mixer will not realise you have a new device plugged in or a new program open so you just can't do anything with it even though it's emitting sound'
or the wonderful 'opening any game released after 2023 will use the handsfree audio sink on my Bluetooth headphones for input and output at mobile quality instead of my actual audio devices'
cinder karma
Dont worry you'll get all the Linux issues, like
"You broke the launcher"
Have fun running firefox & for two years
cinder karma
Lol
safe dragon
I've used so many
prisma flume
i use double-click the exe
safe dragon
no exe's on Linux
prisma flume
sorry i should've used a more cross-platform term like App
safe dragon
😌
prisma flume
but i am NOT salty about windows on CHRISTMAS i am MERRY and JOYFUL because i am not on WINDOWS
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by atravita as #6870 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1453534490633703501)
cinder karma
Dont worry I'm being told I need to dress up in a Christmas way and run 4.5 miles tomorrow
prisma flume
dress up as the christmas spirit and tell them you'll be there in spirit
cinder karma
I might be wearing a bow like a present
steel kraken
didnt really follow Advent of Code this year at all; why are there only 12 days?
seems he is mostly burnt out on running AoC, particularly with all the genAI going around using it as a benchmark.
this year was 12 instead of 25, added checks to make basic auto download scripts fail, and removed global leaderboards entirely
little furnace
Additionally, the final task was an evil troll that no AI could solve but a human could if they check the input which is totally what I did and I didn't waste 5 hours of my life optimizing a packing algorithm to the impossible).
devout vault
and still managed to have my least favorite day he's ever done
Well now I have to hear about it
devout vault
just petit ediot things like 'pressing back in tabbed windows explorer will go t...
See I've never used the windows explorer tabs because my workaround (staggering them diagonally for easy access to any of them) is so engrained in me.
It also means each one is accessible from the taskbar! (I use uncollapsed tasks and task buttons hsowing the window title, of course)
prisma flume
i use hide-until-hovered centred bottom taskbar with grouped icons only because in my heart of hearts i know the fruity mac era was the height of ui design 🙂↕️
and really when you remember the win+1-9 hotkeys for opening pinned programs there's not much point in seeing the taskbar most of the time
cinder karma
Casey i wish I could show you my work desktop
Three virtual windows
Virtuoso in one
At least six open terminals
devout vault
i use hide-until-hovered centred bottom taskbar with grouped icons only because ...
Grouped icons is one of my chief dislikes about using a Mac
devout vault
and really when you remember the win+1-9 hotkeys for opening pinned programs the...
Spoken like someone who clearly doesn’t have way too many Firefox, notepad, and explorer windows open (as well as many other programs)
If I am ever forced to spend long on a computer with no additional monitors OR virtual desktops, I might actually die
prisma flume
Spoken like someone who clearly doesn’t have way too many Firefox, notepad, and ...
you simply cannot comprehend the number of firefox windows and tabs i have open
cinder karma
https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237
Tabs in each terminal. Vim in multiple tabs
Multiple buffer per vim
No dogs at my feet unfortunately
Anyways
I'm sold on induction
worn remnant
I'm sold on induction
sickos.jpg
cinder karma
Aunt and uncle have this thing
Product | Impulse https://share.google/EOVb4ohUbWxprStIa
I realize it's $7k
prisma flume
I'm sold on induction
prove it
cinder karma
It's cool and I will eventually get an induction stove but it might take fifteen years
worn remnant
Product | Impulse https://share.google/EOVb4ohUbWxprStIa
oooooooh i love a natural mapping on cooktop/range controls
also a fan of knobs. our induction range has silly buttons (presumably to cut costs) and i hate them, but induction was more important
dusty pollen
natural mapping?
dusty pollen
also a fan of knobs. our induction range has silly buttons (presumably to cut co...
our induction range is touchscreen and it's genuinely the worst
if you splash something onto it it freaks out
cinder karma
The battery is insane
The 10kw i think is real
Boiling water in literally 30s
BUT the battery is a weak point and I'm not convinced a 10kw is necessary in my real life
worn remnant
natural mapping?
from The Design of Everyday Things
when the controls are laid out in the same arrangement as the things they control, so it's immediately obvious which knob controls which burner and you don't have to have the (idiotic) labels telling you, like you do on stoves where the burners are in a square but the controls are in a line
cinder karma
Weak point = likely failure
cinder karma
from The Design of Everyday Things
when the controls are laid out in the same ar...
I am reading that book
worn remnant
i recommend it overall, but some of it is a bit quaint, like the parts where he lavishly praises the hip new Macintosh computers
cinder karma
I mean but like look at my reading list lol
earnest cairn
from The Design of Everyday Things
when the controls are laid out in the same ar...
little rant: the light switches in my sisters appartment are basically laid out randomly and I always click the wrong one and its so fcking annoying xD
our father did the switches in my childhood home and he took care to make sure theyre logical (like top left switch turns on the lamp thats "top left" if you overland the switches onto the room from where youre standing)
and we always took that for granted til we moved out
dusty pollen
from The Design of Everyday Things
when the controls are laid out in the same ar...
ooo, good design
dusty pollen
i recommend it overall, but some of it is a bit quaint, like the parts where he ...
-# didn’t they steal ibm’s design anyway back during that era
devout vault
wow I had thought I had gotten past the name confusion
prisma flume
iro and ichor are like rust and godot. i know they're different, but i do not and never will know why or even what they are
they are not eachother or any of the other things. and i think that's beautiful
it's a very mixed metaphor but i don't have to make sense on christmas
little furnace
iro and ichor are like rust and godot. i know they're different, but i do not an...
Rust is better C, Godot is better GameMaker.
hasty sinew
merry christmas
safe dragon
tbh that is super close to the max unsigned 64 bit value
hasty sinew
yeah that was the issue, it was just a branch not terminating until rollover, then presenting the pre-rollover value
I'm currently debugging handling of linux syscalls
devout vault
iro and ichor are like rust and godot. i know they're different, but i do not an...
I mean rust and Godot aren’t even the same type of thing.
Iro and ichor are both people, as far as I know
prisma flume
it made sense to me when i started writing it
i think my brain was just christmas carols by the end
modest steppe
jingle bell jingle bell jingle bell
devout vault
Have they recovered, or have the carols simply taken deeper root now
prisma flume
the big empty room in my head is just another place to store food now
modest steppe
so chritsmas music is playing there
prisma flume
th vhocolatdz have to go somewhee
modest steppe
blink if u need help
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by irocendar as #6873 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1453748482601914390)
cinder karma
Okay
Ichor has a garden. Iro has a dog
Iro is working on the dialogue framework
Ichor made Hat Mouse Lacey
indigo mistBOT
sand frost
But they both can program, right?
I think this is part of why I don’t distinguish their mods strongly
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by atravita as #6874 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1453627116460572728)
cinder karma
How about now
modest steppe
get that bag kirby
cinder karma
Merry Christmas, programming fans
Apparently someone won the billion dollar lottery last night
safe dragon
not me tho
devout vault
Lego and knives
safe dragon
beautiful
cinder karma
I did get some pretty great Christmas presents
I think we've given up on Christmas gifts (good)
safe dragon
we don't do Christmas gifts really
dusty pollen
Ichor has good opinions on many things
what's that supposed to mean 
/lh
modest steppe
u have good-er opinion
cinder karma
You're less opiniated
Just quickly.
- Which maple syrup
- I'm looking for running shoes
- Kettles
little furnace
Just quickly.
1. Which maple syrup
2. I'm looking for running shoes
3. Kettles
Are you asking generally for advice?
sand frost
- costco
- idk
- breville if you can taste plastic kettles
little furnace
- Fresh
- Asics
- Rommelsbacher if you can get that where you live
cinder karma
Are you asking generally for advice?
No it's three things I knew ichor has opinions on
prisma flume
Just quickly.
1. Which maple syrup
2. I'm looking for running shoes
3. Kettles
preferred tv adaptation of journey to the west 📝
cinder karma
Reddit chives
cinder karma
preferred tv adaptation of journey to the west 📝
Look i wanted good opinions from the good opinion haver
Even if i disagree with said opinions
prisma flume
cowardly answer
cyan shadow
Just quickly.
1. Which maple syrup
2. I'm looking for running shoes
3. Kettles
- Something Canadian
- I had success with Nikes back in the day
- Mine is Philips and it works fine
I'm not a hardcore runner tho so take the running shoes with a grain of salt
little furnace
1. Something Canadian
2. I had success with Nikes back in the day
3. Mine is Phi...
As somebody who's mother worked at Philips, don't get that nowadays for home appliances. The hygiene stuff is made in-house and the light bulbs are made by a good manufacturer, they are okay, but the appliances get more shoddy by the day, because those were sold to a Chinese investment firm in 2021 (no racism, the big issue is the investment firm part).
Speaking of kettles, apparently the market for 120V kettles has completely different (and mostly worse) models.
So in order to get a good kettle, move to Europe!
safe dragon
get a 240V outlet installed just for your kettle
my philips airfryer has been with me reliably for over 10 years now
and I got it second hand
idk what my kettle is
works tho
and it's european of course
cinder karma
I effing love how you guys took the questions literally
Never change
These are ichor's running shoes:
Barefoot Shoes | Minimalist Footwear | Xero Shoes https://share.google/61YwWGoSysFWG8Gf2
I'm partial to Brooks Launchers myself...used to love the old Nike Airs Free too
modest steppe
how do know these are ichors running shoes
cinder karma
Anyways
Y'all pendants can have actual questions
- Which video game console
- Ring Fit Adventure....yea or nah
dusty pollen
I’m not a pendant I’m a pedant
cinder karma
get a 240V outlet installed just for your kettle
I have considered
The only hard part is the drywall work
little furnace
my philips airfryer has been with me reliably for over 10 years now
That's before 2021, so it's still good. But don't buy new appliances. Unfortunately not worth it.
safe dragon
little furnace
1. Which video game console
2. Ring Fit Adventure....yea or nah
- Wii U
- Yeah, but the Switch 2 JoyCons don't have the pulse reader (and likely don't fit the equipment anyway)
cinder karma
What about a ninja creamy
little furnace
Ninja isn't famous for their quality, so... I recommend a PacoJet if you have the money.
cinder karma
I'm not that attached to ice cream tbh
little furnace
Looking at reviews, and apparently if you use it every day you can expect small stuff like the lid to break within a year.
safe dragon
only thing I plan on buying some time next year is a food processor
never had one but they seem nice
little furnace
For me it says 7000€ on the webpage.
safe dragon
that's a dubious article number why does it end in 5 zeroes
cinder karma
As for ninja, I liked the blender
safe dragon
7000 euros??
cinder karma
Yeah, I'm not a professional chef
safe dragon
is this an industrial appliance
cinder karma
Yes
little furnace
You usually don't buy them directly.
cinder karma
Anyways
little furnace
I worked in gastro for two months, trust me, I'm an expert!!1!
cinder karma
In the great freedom states I can go rent liquid nitrogen for $250
safe dragon
when I discover a million euros in my couch I'll go get one
cinder karma
Ye ha!
All I need is a driver's license, which proves my cryogenic handling capacity
little furnace
All I need is a driver's license, which proves my cryogenic handling capacity
Which one? I sell all kinds.
cinder karma
Anyways, crumble, I see you're not a sale for the 7000 euro ice cream machine
What about the $7000 induction range
cinder karma
Tbh I'm pretty convinced that 30s boiling water is nice
But I'm less convinced on the implementation (battery???? Battery lifetimes are short)
little furnace
I mean, if you can exchange the battery, it makes sense.
safe dragon
a battery for a kettle?
all the electric kettles I've ever had were ones you had to plug into a wall
dusty pollen
Tbh I'm pretty convinced that 30s boiling water is nice
it really is
cinder karma
I can be a bit more chill about batteries than most people (fun fact....most batteries are just a bunch of standard cells spot welded together...) but at $7k I'm
safe dragon
it is yes
cinder karma
Meh
dusty pollen
the kettle I got at uni is both fast and quiet and I love it
safe dragon
I usually boil my water in the kettle and then transfer into the pot if I need boiling water
dusty pollen
and it has an internal guide for exactly one cup
dusty pollen
I usually boil my water in the kettle and then transfer into the pot if I need b...
some people did that at uni because of our shitty stove top but both the tap water and the communal kettle were so nasty that I refused to
cinder karma
Product | Impulse https://share.google/EOVb4ohUbWxprStIa
Talking about this stove
little furnace
I boil my water by making it angry.
dusty pollen
I could ignore the tap water because I was boiling it, but the kettle had so much scale that it covered the top of the water like a weird flakey film
cinder karma
If i die in an industrial accident involving "why the fuck are you running 240V for your kettle, atra", I blame you guys
dusty pollen
(the joys of living south of london meant our water had oil slick rainbows in it)
dusty pollen
If i die in an industrial accident involving "why the fuck are you running 240V ...
you should just run 240V for your entire house
120V is just silly
cinder karma
120V is fine for literally everything else
I dont even need a dryer
Also ngl I want rooftop solar and tbh I think 48V might be fineeeee
dusty pollen
there's a couple houses near me with rooftop solar
cinder karma
When I die and someone has to sell the house I will laugh very hard
dusty pollen
I guess someone was being optimistic
cinder karma
When my decisions will be explained to other people
dusty pollen
(it's not even the adjusting kind, it's fixed angle solar panels on a gabled roof in the UK...)
red crest
If i die in an industrial accident involving "why the fuck are you running 240V ...
just install an electric car charger and hook that up to your kettle via custom cord
cinder karma
just install an electric car charger and hook that up to your kettle via custom ...
(You joke but the process between installing a 240 for my dream car and a 240 for the kettle is the same)
red crest
i was only half joking because the tech connections guy did that
little furnace
How about buying a car with a kettle instead of a radio?
red crest
also 120v is fine for kettles imo
dusty pollen
I feel like you would be the kind of person who would try to generate enough energy to sell back to the grid atra
little furnace
also 120v is fine for kettles imo
The issue is that the good kettles aren't produced for the 120V market.
cinder karma
I can be all cowboy EE I want as long as that part isn't in the grid
Thus we get weird ideas like "what if the kettle gets 240 but I run all lights off 48V DC"
red crest
my kettle does just fine and has for a decade now. it's not fancy but all I'm doing is boiling water, so...
cinder karma
You know my innovation of the year is stashing pre-workout at work for the caffeine
dusty pollen
if only energy storage was more efficient so you could charge a battery then plug it into a battery powered generator that's connected to the grid
cinder karma
No, for the future house I think i will have a professional come in and do the final hookups
dusty pollen
but alas, I hear storage is one of the weakest points of solar
cinder karma
I can wire everything else
little furnace
my kettle does just fine and has for a decade now. it's not fancy but all I'm do...
Well, old appliances tend to be better anyway. Stuff gets more cheaply made by the year. All the money is being put into making it "smart".
dusty pollen
I can wire everything else
you guys have those walls that you can do your own wiring in, don't you
like the hollow ones
you don't have to drill a conduit through brick
little furnace
Sooner or later the market will be split between KettlePlay or Android Kettle.
dusty pollen
ngl I think kettles are still fine for now, at least here in the UK where they start off very cheap
nobody is putting smart technology in the £6 kettle that Tesco sell
little furnace
Yet...
dusty pollen
it's still that dinghy white plastic that used to be used for all appliances like, fifteen years ago because they never bothered changing it, so I'm going with never
little furnace
I'm a pessimist. I trust people to make the worst decisions possible. Being a Sonic fan has taught me that.
cinder karma
you guys have those walls that you can do your own wiring in, don't you
I'm also like, actually an electrical engineer
Just smart enough to do this, just dumb enough it do it dumb
devout vault
If i die in an industrial accident involving "why the fuck are you running 240V ...
Does this invoke the bus clause?
sand frost
What about a ninja creamy
I think it’s a bit pricey, I have a ninja blender (very small, was maybe $50?) and that’s good enough for me to make smoothies. Ice cream makers are all $$ plus a huge hassle unless they’re $$$.
sand frost
I can be a bit more chill about batteries than most people (fun fact....most bat...
I didddd know this, because my brother used to run his electric racecar team
cyan shadow
So in order to get a good kettle, move to Europe!
I do live in Europe! I also have a Philips airfryer and there's really nothing wrong with the quality of any of the stuff I have
little furnace
I _do_ live in Europe! I also have a Philips airfryer and there's really nothing...
Did you get it before or after 2021?
cyan shadow
Did you get it before or after 2021?
After, but I use everything heavily and I checked reviews before buying
I'm aware that some of it is made in China, but yeah
No problems so far and I can't afford fancy toasters
My toaster was like, 15-20 euros, I won't cry if it breaks lol
My milk frother is Brabantia, though
Iirc that thing was made in the Netherlands
So I'll assume it'll be buried with me
That being said, I do care for my appliances, so I expect them to last well in my single-person household
little furnace
I think that's kinda the difference. I pay 70€+ and want it to last 20 years. And Philips definitely no longer fits that. But if it works for you, that's great. And with proper care no appliance is wasted unless there's planned obsolescence involved.
sand frost
I once tried to fix a broken toaster
I can confirm that disassembly is not a good way to fix
cyan shadow
I think that's kinda the difference. I pay 70€+ and want it to last 20 years. An...
I expect to upgrade eventually, since the only thing I spent more than €50 on was the airfryer - but that thing is solidly built from the feel of it
little furnace
I'm biased against them, but if the airfryer works and doesn't break, then that's also a valid experience. Don't let me tell you what to buy.
But if I were to tell you what to buy, I'd tell you to buy PinkSerenity™ appliances only.
cyan shadow
What I really want is one of those fancy coffee machines
My little nespresso machine is great for an entry-level professional's home with limited counter space, but one day
little furnace
Portafilter?
little furnace
It's a kind of machine. Do you want a manual one or a fully automated one?
cyan shadow
I don't have enough room for one rn so I didn't do any research into them beyond going "oooo" at the Mediamarkt
cyan shadow
It's a kind of machine. Do you want a manual one or a fully automated one?
Probably an automated one? I have no idea what sorts exist lol
(Note that I'm 25 years old and fresh out of university, this is a purchase I'll be making... 5 years down the line)
little furnace
Probably an automated one? I have no idea what sorts exist lol
Automated ones are kinda like the vending machine ones except you don't need money. Those are good if your sense of taste is equivalent to the skill required to control one of those
There are others, where you can directly control the pressure of the steam against the coffee powder. I want to buy one of those some day, but I'm 23 and still in university, so...
cyan shadow
Automated ones are kinda like the vending machine ones except you don't need mon...
Probably need the manual one then lol
I like my coffee
little furnace
I like my coffee
I mean, if you're happy with the Nespresso, then the automated one is enough. I was talking from the perspective of a coffee snob.
cyan shadow
I mean, if you're happy with the Nespresso, then the automated one is enough. I ...
Oh the nespresso came with the house, my preferred way is to make Indian filter coffee
I use the nespresso out of necessity because I didn't have access to good Indian coffee for a while and the bag my dad brought me needs to last
little furnace
Ohhhh. Those are good. Really special taste. I don't think you will be happy with an automated machine, then. Nothing really comes close to that taste. It's really special.
cyan shadow
Ohhhh. Those are good. Really special taste. I don't think you will be happy wit...
Filter coffee is what I grew up with, nothing beats it for me
We get premade decoctions in India for convenience, and even those taste fantastic compared to nespresso capsules
safe dragon
you grew up with coffee?
little furnace
I also grew up with coffee.
cyan shadow
I went to high school in India, crumble
You think I'd have made it out in one piece without coffee?
safe dragon
I barely know what the Dutch are doing in my defense
cyan shadow
I went to high school in India, crumble
The hardest variety, too
safe dragon
cyan shadow
The equivalent of gymnasium difficulty-wise, just without latin and greek lol
cyan shadow
The equivalent of gymnasium difficulty-wise, just without latin and greek lol
In the hierarchy of high school education, anyway
crystal wren
I barely know what the Dutch are doing in my defense
All Douwe Egberts instant all the time. /j
safe dragon
I've had perhaps 1 full cup of coffee over my lifetime so far, taking sips here and there
cyan shadow
The equivalent of gymnasium difficulty-wise, just without latin and greek lol
God, imagine if I did have Latin and Greek
little furnace
I had Latin. Do not recommend.
cyan shadow
All Douwe Egberts instant all the time. /j
Douwe Egberts' good stuff is drinkable, to be fair to them
The slop they serve on KLM flights on the other hand is an abomination
safe dragon
my work's coffee is apparently pretty decent
cyan shadow
I had Latin. Do not recommend.
I already had Hindi for a while and it was ridiculously difficult - my mom speaks it as her first language and she struggled to tutor me
Adding Latin to the mix would've been disastrous
safe dragon
which is DE
cyan shadow
Ye DE's good stuff is perfectly fine
cyan shadow
The slop they serve on KLM flights on the other hand is an abomination
I have a bone to pick with KLM's catering in general tbh
safe dragon
i did VWO but not gymnasium so no Latin or Greek
little furnace
The slop they serve on KLM flights on the other hand is an abomination
To be fair, coffee won't ever taste really good on flights because you're sense of taste is impacted there.
cyan shadow
They only serve vegetarian food on the Indian flights, and they don't serve much of it
I was so fucking hungry by the time I landed in Bangalore because we only got one small lunch and a small snack on an 8 hour flight
safe dragon
I think on my flight to Sweden it was just a sandwich with cheese
cyan shadow
When I go back I'll be packing some snacks
safe dragon
I imagine they have an actual meal on flights further away
little furnace
I was so fucking hungry by the time I landed in Bangalore because we only got on...
That's... really not much for that duration.
safe dragon
I was so fucking hungry by the time I landed in Bangalore because we only got on...
KLM is supposed to be on the fancier side