Baby (Young Body)

[topaz gyro]

especially with Giant Slayer

proc GS with a rush or S2 then straight into ult

[austere copper]

The cd being really short, you can probably get it back for every fight

[viscid epoch]

Yep some good possessions and your ult is back and landing hits vs enemy heroes is going to start to ramp up it's damage

I say it's even a good idea to possess an ally like vegito early then when you're in the heart of the fight you immediately ult when you pop out

Heck even the minimum amount of possession restores your ult by a lot

[topaz gyro]

if you have full time on it in a normal fight you end the fight at 80%

[viscid epoch]

6 weeks in making Possession (Enemies) easier to achieve
#📬submitted-game-feedback message

[austere copper]

Frankly, it's still rather easy to make it proc. Just mash the rush attacks button instead of keeping it pressed

[tawny gate]

fellas what hurts more missing your ult once as baby or falling down the stairs

[fossil marsh]

When your tm8s don’t come near you when your about to die

[topaz gyro]

Missing the stairs while falling down the baby ult.

[topaz gyro]

Hell, just make it so if your possessed ally does a finisher you jump bodies

[balmy canopy]

that works for cover fire but but holding it works for normal rush attack

[austere copper]

Not always, it can prevent from triggering the finisher animation, while mashing it will make sure to triggers it

[balmy canopy]

that doesn't happen from my experience

[viscid epoch]

Got that under as
"make it where if an ally gets a finisher off while under the effect of Possession (Allies) the Baby (Young Body) player get's a button prompt where the player gets an option to possess the defeated enemy hero's body ending his S3 early or not"

[austere copper]

Seeing how many people complain about the passive possession not working, i'd say you're an exception

[balmy canopy]

i mean it happens but i almost never get a chance to do it because it's basically impossible to do it in a real match

[austere copper]

What's impossible to do in a real match? Possession?

[balmy canopy]

yes

[austere copper]

This is exactly why i wrote that above, about mashing rush attacks when trying to kill someone. Makes possession happens a lot more.

[balmy canopy]

no i meant they die because a another player uses a skill to kill them

[viscid epoch]

Or 2 DPS's/DPS and tech that just came in gets the finisher instead

[balmy canopy]

baby really should get priority

[balmy canopy]

i just remembered that finishers are chance based and are NOT 100% and triple boss gives a increased chance near the zeno's

[viscid epoch]

Oh yeah so Luwae here just has god possession luck or ours is omega trash?

Maybe even both?

[balmy canopy]

idk

[balmy canopy]

maybe in your buff idea in #📬submitted-game-feedback you can change it to baby has a 100% finisher chance and priority in team finishers

[quaint geyser]

does Wicked Warrior work with Babys attacks as parasite

[autumn lotus]

More important is the fact that finishers while you posses someone don’t count as your finisher

[fossil marsh]

It does but doesn’t do much dmg

[autumn lotus]

Baby is the worst tank if you have awful teammates

[autumn lotus]

More Support please and less silence

[autumn lotus]

I killed this chat with my opinion

[spiral olive]

i agree

[topaz gyro]

Godgeta has done irreparable harm to people's understanding on how the Tank role works in this game, Tanks as a rule shouldnt be able to 3v1 the enemy team and survive, that Baby cant do that doesnt make him weak it makes the others too strong

a tank not being able to kill as fast as a damage role is normal and expected.

a tank not being able to engage and disengage at the speed of a technical is normal and expected

a tank not having an answer to EVERY situation is normal and expected

[topaz gyro]

that Baby has a specific weakness for being alone does not make him the weakest tank, he is incredibly strong when not alone, other tanks have different weaknesses where they blow up super fast if you are caught out.

Cooler for example, if you use his abilities carelessly, or the enemy team knows to not trigger his passive, is much weaker.

[autumn lotus]

In short a tank is only good if your skill is good

Also our talk was about him being alone

Your whole talk was unnecessary

Also

Screw godgeta

Lame and simple kit

[topaz gyro]

and i am saying that of course baby will be bad alone, its the equivalent of a bot running into enemy tower and dying for no reason, of course a character will be weak if you just refuse to play them the way they are made to be played

[spiral olive]

got hit with the baby frieza bug

[pliant kite]

Have not played since Godku's release, how does baby feel nowadays?

[balmy canopy]

top 3 tank

[viscid epoch]

He still needs a good ally for his true potential but he feels extremely good to use

His S2 cycles into his S3 and his S3 cycles into everything else effectively giving him no cooldowns in team fights where your S2 is hitting 2-3 people at once along with giving him a lot of ult usages to stack it's damage up early

[tall condor]

My favorite move is to jump when the enemy is low health and use Special

[pliant kite]

Ah so S2 is getting the praise again

I should redownload then

[tawny gate]

true

[viscid epoch]

(Indirect) baby buff! Rider helpers don't stop if you get damaged anymore so you can now escape when you're alone or get abandoned

[topaz gyro]

Something to run other than the videl special, color me happy

[random thorn]

Right, I'm not actually sure if there would've been another good way to buff it

[balmy canopy]

the ability to turn it?

[random thorn]

Eh

[small plover]

Does anyone have any recommendations for level order?
S1 is first obviously but is it best to do S2 or S3 next?

[topaz gyro]

S3 is first

S2 is second

[topaz gyro]

Depending on the situation S1 can be second too

[austere copper]

S3 first, then 2 points in S1, and leave like that until the very late game

[small plover]

Oh?
I would have thought S1

[austere copper]

S1 at max lvl has very little value before late game

The best value is at s1 lvl 2

[small plover]

Noted

[austere copper]

For laning phase

As it's more focused

So s3, two points in S1, then max S3, 2, and ult

And use your ult on people every time it's available

[small plover]

Already got that down

[austere copper]

Just, avoid missing them

Or you lose the extra damage and have to start again

[small plover]

How does that work, is it extra damage every time they get hit with it for the whole match?

[austere copper]

Yup, with a cap

[small plover]

Oh sweet. Thanks, is there a best card build for him? I run build up, prepare to die then pursuit (sometimes defense step or limit breaking jump)

[austere copper]

It's up to you, really

I prefer to run full green to still be able to tank

But you can go PTD to deal more damages while possessing

Pursuer isn't really worth it on him, imo