#42.14.1 UNSTABLE Hotfix Released

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severe temple
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and patching a version that will not be around for much longer is just a waste of dev time

fluid wagon
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42.15 next week it seems

jagged heron
chilly sable
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Now you've put catters in quite the predicament

severe temple
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Sully, will we get a blog post at the stable release regarding the crafting system and the future of it (regarding to new professions and systems like fermentation)?

jagged heron
severe temple
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good to hear, still excited to see what the new crafting system brings in the future

tight hare
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Stable release in 2 months

distant lake
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Using a controller?

If so, for now you can just pick up & place the TV back down

void shard
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-99/-99 pz_heart_eyes

tight hare
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Can TIS make it so that you can make any rgb color variation ™

severe temple
severe temple
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but i dont think there's currently even a framework for it in that could handle it, except adding every possible combination as a tile sheet

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which uh.... lets not

tight hare
severe temple
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depends on how they render shit

tight hare
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base black and white + rgb multiply

severe temple
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but imma be honest, that does feel like a 1.0 fluff feature

south aspen
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That would certainly be fun alongside the liquid system to mix different paint colors

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Just make any color possible lol

nova flicker
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yay fluff

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more decor !!

nova flicker
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HAHAha that is so good lmao

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I LOVE IT its perfect

void shard
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Rofl 🤣

jagged heron
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it's live

nova flicker
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yay thanks so much lol this is bestest day

narrow hemlock
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So THATS what you were working on haha

jagged heron
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lmao yup. Should have taken 5 minutes... took 90

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to be fair, every mod I've made so far has been like that. "Oh this should be a quick little thing".... days later.

narrow hemlock
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The development experience

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Well after youve done it once it only gets faster!

jagged heron
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that's what I thought when I tackled this one 😛

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lots of learning though

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which is good

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and good to understand the torture the mod making community goes through

daring ice
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LOL!!!

narrow hemlock
jagged heron
narrow hemlock
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Putting yourself through so much suffering to put people with pet themed usernames first. Its so admirable 🫡

quasi dew
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ok I want my namesake mod to turn every killed murloc zombie into puppers fry plates now

severe temple
narrow hemlock
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Tbh I wouldnt know, Im just the Blender guy for modding projects haha

severe temple
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Only person I saw was Rocco with his beehives, so far

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And you say modding is hubris... Polygon bending is way worse

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I tried it and decided it was not for me

narrow hemlock
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Rigging characters makes me feel like Dr. Frankenstein

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I understand the highs he felt

quasi dew
jagged heron
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actually... don't think this would be too hard

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On zombie death have it delete the corpse and spawn a fry plate in its place

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but no... last time I thought something would be easy (literally every time) it was not

severe temple
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I do would like a tutorial about how to wield the new crafting system into making things like the drying rack, because i see a lot of cool things you could do with it

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Yes, I'm too lazy to poke around the Lua bits to see what does what

nova flicker
nova flicker
quasi dew
nova flicker
bleak tulip
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make all raccoons orange! It’ll only take a minute or two

nova flicker
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would be cool for a chance to have one breaded n buttered that came out like a reddish color something

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like the dwarf chicken chest@

void shard
jagged heron
void shard
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not that I know of, I think it is all skin based

jagged heron
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right, so need a texture

void shard
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yup yup

jagged heron
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apparently they inherit setCustomColor from IsoObject

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hmmmmm...

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nope... not going down this route. Time to relax and clock off lol

void shard
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I shall sacrifice my time to make this a reality

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the last skin I made was of Pat, and I didn't make it into a workshop download

chilly sable
nova flicker
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you guys are speaking riddles and smart lingo lol

jagged heron
void shard
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I know bits and pieces but I am not a modder, sometimes I like to tinker

chilly sable
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I have the mindset of always work, just slower and less. I also apply this mindset to my favorite melee category in PZ, short blade, the only type I can seemingly never lose energy in or gain muscle strain, sure it takes a while to kill them, but it's easier to not worry about resting.

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When I worked at _________, I didn't take breaks when I should have, but I just worked less hard, same outcome and I felt better at the end of the day.
Edit: not X the company, just not stating which, whoops lol

bleak tulip
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it’s okay, you’re allowed to say you worked at Spiffo’s. Slicing all those meats, potatoes, and lettuce heads helped leveled up your short blade skill

nova flicker
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yah, give us the sauce recipe

bleak tulip
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lol what is that?

chilly sable
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THAT? Oh that's just the ugliest thing I've ever seen

nova flicker
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lol

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no idea, saw it on a instagram reel and made a sticker of it

void shard
severe temple
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You gotta take your breaks

jagged heron
severe temple
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there's a reason why countries with high workers rights are also generally pretty far on top of the gdp per capita list

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happy workers are a lot more productive and if that means going slow, let em be

jagged heron
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slow is smooth, smooth is fast

severe temple
jagged heron
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I recall seeing it in Teacup, but it's a pretty common(ish) saying

severe temple
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but yeah, i did some localization as a hobby at some point, you can definitely tell when I rushed a project vs when i was really invested

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so that is even more impactful when its creative jobs

jagged heron
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I noticed this when I was still coding. As a junior I was rush rush rush... learned to slow down and my god did everything improve, especially my salary lol

severe temple
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we aint exactly good at doing both at the same time

summer sail
void shard
summer sail
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I'm on it

void shard
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it's a 42.14.1 save

summer sail
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me too

void shard
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🙂

summer sail
# void shard 🙂

It's strange, apparently the remaining parts of the sign are there, but the problem is that you can't see the right and left sides of the sign. You can even climb up and take the sign with you. I tried looking at it from various positions and never saw the two missing sides, only the middle one. It seems like a bug.

void shard
summer sail
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Hmm, interestingly, I just discovered that if you place the sign, it won't let you pick it up again.

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although now placed manually if it looks complete

void shard
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ohhhh dang that is wild lol

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speaking of things that can't be picked up

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I noticed traffic cones that have been squished are perma there and can't be picked up

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so I got the first test of the racoon skin, I got it to show up and I can load a run with the mod enabled, I go in via debug and I spawn racoons and they aren't replacing textures pz_scream pz_rage

summer sail
void shard
summer sail
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Could someone check the coordinates X=2172 Y=6303, behind the house? I'm getting question marks, and the tile is called "vegetation_groundcover_01_21".

Although it's a new game, and I don't have any mods, I just want to make sure it's not my problem.

chilly sable
summer sail
chilly sable
languid tiger
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So 14.15 is coming out soon?

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Like someone said it was releasing next week and they were like a mod idk if i misunderstoof

summer sail
fleet edge
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And yes, they are aiming for next week to release 14.15.0, barring any issues that crop up in the last minute.

void shard
# languid tiger Like someone said it was releasing next week and they were like a mod idk if i m...
summer sail
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What I discovered is that you can climb through a window in the damaged buildings in Brandenburg.

nova flicker
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lol the planked ones?

summer sail
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yes

fleet edge
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Me_irl when I hear that climbing through a window in damaged buildings meant I got more looting to do.

quasi dew
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stable 42 here yet? no? back to Midnight

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not many games one can play actively for over half of his lifespan

quasi dew
summer sail
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Interestingly, this only happens to me on this server

quasi dew
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just keep posting to get exp

copper goblet
daring ice
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Im kind of used to my new pfp now

echo rapids
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apparently arc raiders was just printing discord chat logs to a plaintext file through discord integration. They had access to all of your friends on disc as well.

who needs hackers with devs like them

severe temple
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Because that seems highly unlikely, thats not the kinda access a client side discord integration gets

echo rapids
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I do indeed.

severe temple
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oh, full overlay integration (someone actually uses that? why?)

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thats kinda funny seems like someone forgot to turn off logging, lol

severe temple
void shard
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!dance

nova warren
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!dance

daring ice
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!dance

frigid lark
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will we still be able to play on 42.14 when .15 is out? not quite ready for a new world yet lol

nova flicker
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id like to know what zombie bisque tastes like

jagged heron
frigid lark
nova flicker
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after playing re series lol i just know it would smell the most glorious

frigid lark
plain saddle
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I understand naming things is hard but why not something more clear like

  • unstable 42.15.0
  • unstable 42.14.1

I don't get hiding the versions, just causes more confusion for people not in the loop

jagged heron
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Because Steam doesn't let you rename branches, so when we drop the next branch which isn't 42.15.0, it becomes a problem

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Or rather it gives us more work

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and would actually cause issues for people on the branch

jagged heron
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oh god, there's a second puppers?

nova flicker
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lol

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no , im being mod abused

jagged heron
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typical Discord mods

nova flicker
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lol

hexed mountain
earnest gyro
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Thanks for the great work Indie stone. There are always pple who complain... keep work up we enjoy it

fleet edge
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s90EP3T4jUo

It seems some of the changelog bugfixes in 42.14.0+ aare incorrect.

Not gonna lie this is probably the buggiest unstable build they put out so far. We're also getting the first signs of Serellan's UI crusade which could be just what we need.

Patch notes:
https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/91647-42140-unstable-released/
https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/91799-42141-unstable-hotfix-...

▶ Play video
jagged heron
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Quick, someone tell me how incompetent I am

nova flicker
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no

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go to steam forums for that

earnest gyro
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What does Tis mean

nova flicker
nova flicker
jagged heron
nova flicker
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Lmao

jagged heron
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thought TIGS was The Indie Game Store? Wtf puppers, you forgetting the lore?

nova flicker
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it was a typo

earnest gyro
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Sorry for not mailingliste english

jagged heron
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that's a pretty massive typo

nova flicker
quartz void
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Any reason why guns for name changes? Like I wouldn't think IMI is kicking in the door over D-E pistol

jagged heron
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I was not involved in any of those decisions (and have no actual knowledge on the topic), but I would assume it's a "why risk it" sort of thing

quartz void
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Like M14 was generic and military, making it M1A opens it up more actually imo. But then the revolvers losing their names and the D-E just feels weird

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I can only assume the M14 change was cuz you can't full auto it, like a real M14

jagged heron
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I have no idea, I am the farthest thing from a gun person there is.

quartz void
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Fair, fair

quasi dew
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He does hold a figurative gun over our heads over patch knowledge

quartz void
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Got that Degle in .50 Imaginary

quasi dew
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Finger guns muting Catters left and right

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Also obligatory salute for fellow lizard fan

quasi dew
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That boy sure looks like your pfp but younger

nova flicker
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lol

quasi dew
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Puppers numbah one where

echo rapids
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man an airsoft gun would be fire

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ping 2 or 3 zombies at a time

quasi dew
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a silent sniping ranged weapon able to pull individual zeds from afar

echo rapids
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Yeah

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Easy mode horde chipping

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Slingshots as an improvised analogue

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finally a use for rubber bands maybe

quasi dew
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reminds me of pokemon safari zone, just throw rocks at enemies to piss them off, no actual intention to do anything productive

frigid lark
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i wish throwing stuff was a thing, would be great to huck an alarm clock somewhere and have it go off, or throw a rock through a window to pull zombs away from an area

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there's the firebombs etc but its kinda iffy lol

nova flicker
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i want a potato gun!

quasi dew
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egg gun pls, you get so many eggs in the game vs potatoes

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egg gun should create dirt stains on any surface it hits

narrow hemlock
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Be the change you wish to see in the world

quasi dew
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a gigantic meteor that shatters the planet?

narrow hemlock
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Ideally be a change that helps people and doesnt kill them

quasi dew
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not an egg or potato gun then

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did you become a horse, then?

distant lake
delicate rock
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Now we need pills for hiccups

distant lake
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Checking that video out -- definitely a nice feeling knowing some of the issues raised will be resolved

fleet edge
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Yeah, glad Retanaru's videos help out a ton.

bleak tulip
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someone mentioned The Indie Game Store

fleet edge
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It's the MeUndies & Game Store

near depot
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imagine farting in project zomboid having penalties on stealth.

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zombies get a smell of your farts and end up chasing you down.

nova flicker
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so basically build 41 zombers were just sniffin our farts

echo rapids
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they fucking stink

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if you smell like you shit your pants too that should help you hide

near depot
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smell of farts would reveal your location resulting in zombies being interesting.

nova flicker
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lol

echo rapids
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sweat i might be able to see

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With cologne/perfume to mask the pheromones

near depot
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perfume and cologne needs to be useful to mask your scents

echo rapids
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I mean theres a nursing trick too

near depot
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imagine needing deoderant to also help mask scents.

slender scroll
# echo rapids they fucking stink

Could you imagine having a sense of smell in pz. With the amount of rotting corpses walking around I’d be surprised if anywhere is safe from the stench. It’d be carried on the wind quite far

echo rapids
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You use mint oil under the nose to tank stench

near depot
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imagine pooping your pants in a zombie apocalypse.

echo rapids
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when ur drinking street water more likely than youd think

near depot
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that would reveal your location very easily.

echo rapids
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the issue is all the zombies are full of poop too

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and like, lets be real

they shit their pants before getting back up

near depot
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zombies have clean underwear lol

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underwear never gets dirty in game

echo rapids
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nah

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you just are a kentuckian

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you see through the browns and yellows

and reds

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also the bowl of soup you leave on the counter while zombie guts splatter the entire kitchen

near depot
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zombies lack pools of blood after killing them

echo rapids
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theyre forbidden fruit gushers

quartz void
quasi dew
quartz void
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Oh we don't have a "true" meme here for emojis. Damn

void shard
void shard
nova flicker
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like that

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i liked shooting my sisters head with them

chrome gust
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Unsurprising puppers lore

nova flicker
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500 points for in the mouth

nova flicker
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dude no lol , i uninstalled that mod after the god damn water gun gave me a laceration

quartz void
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Reminds me how we lost a character in a giant RP server cuz of a snowball to the head counted as a headshot

nova flicker
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LOL

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id rage quit lol

quartz void
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Makes me wish minor cuts and bruises were just a thing instead

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Server owner reimburse the kill, TP'd em to the spot, gave em their stats again. People had their characters saved as presets

void shard
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I never really got into it because the setup was far too extreme

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Either too many guns everywhere or not enough, felt really hard to balance it

quartz void
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That whole era was cursed. We had a giant area walled off from the dead, no way for em to get in, and as I'm exercising with no gear on in the gym building, one walks up on me and gets a neck bite. Sure, I was super immune as one of those many trait mods had but trying to stomp one when naked and now bleeding from the neck was pain. Barely made that

void shard
severe temple
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so he effectively got batted to the head, lol

void shard
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Lemmy's post about that made me laugh so hard when 42 came to unstable

severe temple
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i do kinda wish we'd get a really long stick to fight with, just for that

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Bos would be fun, whack em all

frigid lark
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is there a known bug with lighters not being able to be equipped as a secondary? or an issue with firecrackers? had a player unable to use firecrackers until he "cheated" the lighter into his secondary by using F with a firecracker equipped in primary

void shard
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!bugreport

fiery haloBOT
frigid lark
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it was one of the new disposable lighters, i wonder if that was the problem... will test with a normal one, or matches

void shard
nova flicker
fleet edge
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Project Zomboid, now on the news.

echo rapids
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tell em ta speak american

tight hare
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hamburger hamburger quesadilla freedom

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🫡 🦅

daring ice
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America! Fuck yeah!

tight hare
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vintage story is what pz crafting wishes it could be

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the baki torture of survival games

severe temple
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you just get a lot more interacitivity because of the difference in perspectives

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the new crafting system is in, its just not stuffed full with the new option that were originally planned for b42 but have been moved in to the future

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tho i do kinda would like the farming system to be taken over, but it would be a tad overkill for zomboid needs

tight hare
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vintage story is far more complex

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pz I'd say is actually a bit more casual than vintage story

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for VS they literally have you blowing into the fire to increase the temp so you can properly make steel, they have you shaping the items, etc

severe temple
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i know it wont happen, but i would really enjoy a modernized version of hydrocraft

nova flicker
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with the flat horses

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that was like one of the first mods i ever used

severe temple
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but thats a huge project, so at this point you are probably just better off to rewrite the entire thing instead of porting it onto yet another version with life support

severe temple
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especially because a lot of its system are now obsolete with the new crafting system in place

tight hare
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and that's fine -- I think -- though I'd like more of vs type stuff, pz has its own niche with crafting being a part of it, not it

severe temple
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just wait till it hits stable and people start to figure out the system

tight hare
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I sincerely doubt crafting will be massively expanded upon even if b42 hits stable

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I'm not even a hater (again), just my impression on it

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Or rather, expanded upon in a moreeee "minigame"-y, involved way, rather than making the 10th recipe in a row.

severe temple
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eh, imma wait to see what modders come up with

tight hare
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those are mods, not vanilla :^)

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when I make assumptions on systems it's purely vanilla and you can see this because I suggest that some mods should be vanilla already

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and I've went through the entire post crafting system legit, from zero to hero

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got all the skill and recipe books, got the materials, got the tools, crafted and built my way up to advanced forges

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to me it felt like a chore tbh

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maybe if crafting was more involved (again, minigames for example), it'd be a bit more fun

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when I did it, it was pretty much craft something 500x times to level up, go loot other places, turn cars into scrap, etc

severe temple
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you'll enjoy microcrafting, and you'll do it 8 times over

nova flicker
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NO LMAO

chilly sable
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A big part of the B42 update was making it easier for modders to make complicated systems with crafting

severe temple
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yeah and they definitely did

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the only reason why we dont see much yet, is because you'd be playing catch up with the minor updates until stable comes out

pearl basin
chilly sable
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Yes, that would be great

tight hare
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Eg. opening doors without being forced to hack and slash them to death; being able to see behind trees (I sincerely doubt a zombie could be super stealthy around the very edge of a treeline); being able to see npcs and players and objects behind sprites when your character pov would be able to do so (it's common sense, really); and the list goes on (possibly ad nauseam)

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these are just the most basic qol things imo

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2nd part would also be qol for driving ngl

echo rapids
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imo computers should have documents in them

hexed mountain
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I hope they adds bees in base game pz since kentucky has a massive export of honey

echo rapids
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so you either bring it home or get the power on and read whatever files are in there... ideally informative ones lol

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and floppies :0

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though theyd probably have disc drives too more often than not

tame whale
# tight hare

This. Like idk if it's possible to check how many trees are between a player and a zed in the code, but combine this with a simple isZombieMoving check and you could allow the player to see moving zeds behind 1 tree, but see nothing behind multiple trees? Wether or not you can see a stationary zombie behind a single tree could just be proximity dependent.

That or just have whatever is actually occluding vision be a lot more accurate to the graphics of the tree lol

void shard
sage orbit
void shard
plain saddle
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Do we really need to stand in the fire pit to light it? I’ve been burned each time….

nova flicker
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lol

plain saddle
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I am now gimping around with four burns…

quasi dew
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Character would always go far too near a fire to do anything with it

plain saddle
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If you use the “light fire” button the character literally stands in the center. Doesn’t make sense.

void shard
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So quiet these past few days

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Calm before the storm I guess

quasi dew
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Obviously the thing may be a bug, and it may be also caused by any mods, but work-around has to exist since I remember (a month or two back) having to figure out why it happened to me

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If its a campfire the game pre-placed to your map, I would suggest moving it to a different spot and seeing again if your character tries to immolate himself. I'm just throwing plausible ideas how I did get it to work properly in a pure wilderness run I had

frigid lark
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is there any way in the sandbox settings to make food less... "effective"? i know nutrition is kinda wonky rn but i can go a week without eating and then an apple takes me to full lol

void shard
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I don't think so, just abundance and then taking weight traits

quasi dew
void shard
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Yea constantly have to eat to keep my weight up 🤣

quasi dew
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Hunger is independent from nutrition anyway...pretty sure an apple does not grant miracles in vanilla!

tight hare
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open up apoc, take fast metabolism, burn 4k calories daily

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You'll be lose like 7-10 kgs first week

twilit lichen
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Prepared for 42.15, get some bath of cold water for flamming ass😁

long pagoda
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42.15 coming today?

twilit lichen
long pagoda
twilit lichen
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but it's better to fill the bath in advance😁

long pagoda
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@jagged heron you know things... TELL US!! stressed

jagged heron
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I have a new project... who cares about an update... my work is much more interesting 😛

long pagoda
plain saddle
severe temple
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I already see it, the community manager ends up one of the top modders for the game kek

severe temple
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food may be filling while its actual garbage for your body (hello, fast food), and vice versa it may be a small bite but calorie dense like some candy (or food bars)

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but i do think there was a rebalance pass announced to be happening one day

short fern
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where 42.15