B42 MP Released

[dull arrow]

has anyone cleared knox county in b42?

even though its impossible haha

[dusky bolt]

new lore update:
Zomboids got that way because of various drugs being mixed with a bad chemical - they noticed humans have more drugs so they searched humans and human houses for drugs.
Now all drugs are gone and they attack every human they see to get more drugs.

Thats why there are no drugs left at all

[dull arrow]

there was a bug with that?

[dusky bolt]

why would it be impossible? you can still disable all respawns iirc?

just gotta drag them out of the bushes

[dull arrow]

well yea but no one has the time, right?

[analog blaze]

yep, you couldnt cook shit

[dull arrow]

should be fixed, was able to cook rice yesterday

im not a dev yet though, ask them

[analog blaze]

fuck yeah, peak, now if we only got the bows...

[royal widget]

mmm bows...

[dull arrow]

If devs add other wild enemies like bears and you have the long dark

[analog blaze]

i dont want to bother them, they have so much work and things to deal with and part of the community has been to pushy

[analog blaze]

i yearn for the bobcats and the bears

[royal widget]

Sully is paid for tolerating us, he doesn't directly design the game as far as I know, community manager

[dull arrow]

cant bother them if you ask in this channel, devs often react

wait what, he's a community manager???

[analog blaze]

the long forbidden, wet¡, forgotten dream

[dull arrow]

is TIS a british or american company. cant seem to figure it out

[analog blaze]

what things reamin to add in next updates?

[royal widget]

but it was foretold to be included in B42, so the dream is merely a dream in theory

[analog blaze]

i think neiother, they are polish i recall

[royal widget]

their HQ in UK

consists of people from many countries, founders were british I think

[dull arrow]

techland 2.0

[analog blaze]

it will eventually come, there was a thursdoid showcasing the bow making i think

uk based yeah, why do i recall them being polish?

[dull arrow]

wasnt it teased that devs wanted to add npc's in b43

[dull arrow]

probs techland because both are amazing

[analog blaze]

not teased but its the main objective of b43

[analog blaze]

whats techland?

[dusky bolt]

ricksdetrix did something close in b41

[dull arrow]

they made dying light 1, 2, the following and the beast

[dull arrow]

oooh yea that guy

[analog blaze]

then im thinking of another game

[dull arrow]

any of you want to be a software developer in the future?

[analog blaze]

i once fooled around with the idea

not fucking again

[dusky bolt]

i do some light scripting and work with devs, that is more than i like tbh. full dev would kill me

[dull arrow]

best i did was clear rosewood in b41

[dull arrow]

what languages

[analog blaze]

i think the game uses lua

[dull arrow]

they use java for the game, lua for modding

[analog blaze]

they just keep appearing

STOP BREAKING MY FUCKING WINDOWS

[dusky bolt]

VB and SQL mostly, i do consulting for SAP and some light customizings can be done this way. Anything actual "developing" goes to dedicated devs in our company

[analog blaze]

and you dont even want to think about carrying a body, motherfucker will lift it up and be tired beyond exhertion for 5 hours

[analog blaze]

why u use sql for light scripting?

[dull arrow]

didnt expect that

im learning html/css and js primarily

[dusky bolt]

sap is sql-database based (or hana but the syntax is very similar), i do reports and database scripts for automations

[dull arrow]

mighty are u still in school or nah

[dusky bolt]

nah

[dull arrow]

how many hours of school did you have that were focused on coding per day

my school is giving me 3 hours of coding per week that is only revolving around php 🙁

[analog blaze]

that one i liked

the third one is a motherfucker of the worst category

[deft cape]

Time for you to start learning JavaScript and then jump straight to React / Angular / Vue / Node.js

Or you can be specialized in PHP

[obtuse hornet]

Nothing stopping you from self-learning... strongly recommend having your own projects on the go. What you learn in school tends to be drastically different than what you do on the job sadly

[dull arrow]

yea your all right

i made pong in js ig. really hard language

[obtuse hornet]

and if you're looking for a college/university degree level of computer science, find a program that does internships... they are vastly more valuable

I couldn't tell you the number of fresh grads I've seen who couldn't even do the basics

[dull arrow]

im going to have an intern begin februari luckily

[obtuse hornet]

yeah that's awesome, that's what you want

[dull arrow]

what about you? are you good at coding?

[obtuse hornet]

Before coming to TIS I was a development lead for the company I worked for

[dull arrow]

would you recommend js or java?

[obtuse hornet]

quit my career as a programmer to join the fun world of community management lmao

With coding once you learn one language it's easy to learn them all

[royal widget]

and what a contradicting little angel you are, too

[obtuse hornet]

use whatever is best for your situation

Personally I started with C... and I think that helped a lot because it's notoriously difficult... made all others seem easy by comparison

[dull arrow]

difficult choices

[royal widget]

if B42 stable comes before my birthday, I'll start learning some coding too

[obtuse hornet]

when is your birthday?

[royal widget]

3rd of June

[obtuse hornet]

*makes mental note*

[royal widget]

shit...

[dull arrow]

does tis take interns?

[hidden rapids]

Sorry, I did what now?

[obtuse hornet]

Not usually no. Currently hiring experienced game devs though https://projectzomboid.com/blog/jobs/

[dull arrow]

damn okay

hey maybe ill work at TIS in a few years who knows

[royal widget]

build 47, we have drugs

[obtuse hornet]

I didn't think I ever would, and here I am... so yeah. If you want it, go for it.

[dull arrow]

you guys primariy use java right

[obtuse hornet]

Java + Lua primarily

but yeah, when learning, the language isn't a huge thing... it's about the core concept behind them

they are all very similar

[earnest saffron]

Will the hotfix break our saves

[obtuse hornet]

Assume it will

[earnest saffron]

Alright

Imma start a save when the hotfix comes out then

[dull arrow]

how does one combine 2 languages together in a game exactly

[obtuse hornet]

combining languages is very common across development actually. You see it all the time in web dev for example

[dull arrow]

oh right i forgot html css do this

[earnest saffron]

It would be a dream to be able to play your favorite game as a job

[obtuse hornet]

Trust me, it sounds a lot better than the reality... it's still awesome working for TIS, but it's not sunshines and rainbows just playing PZ all day

[dull arrow]

pz may have made me cry a couple of times but yea it is probably my favourite game rn

[earnest saffron]

I know yeah you have to deal with us the community

[dull arrow]

you get money. playing the game itself doesnt give money

[obtuse hornet]

any job gives money lol

and I was making a lot more of it as a programmer than I am as a community manager lol

[dull arrow]

a community manager is still important

[earnest saffron]

You don’t program anymore?

[obtuse hornet]

I mean... I do side projects and stuff here and there. I made <@&1432182204968075408> for instance

but generally no

[wraith dagger]

Hey guys, tysm for MP devs. I just wanted to ask, in a MP game, when you get overencumbered, does anyone else take massive damage now? And does anyone else' motion sickness last for a day at a time? Thank you

[dull arrow]

wasnt that always the case with taking massive damage?

[wraith dagger]

I feel like I only took a little bit, maybe my strength was higher in that game

[loud pond]

Is there gonna be a fix for the micro freezing soon for MP

[obtuse hornet]

Yes, also a temporary workaround can be found here: https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/88507-b42-multiplayer/

[loud pond]

Thank you!

[royal widget]

my wife keeps saying even learning programming and taking commissions is viable, no need for some fancy diploma and shit which I use as a doomer excuse to postpone it

[hidden rapids]

Yea both issues have been mentioned before

[obtuse hornet]

I don’t have a CS degree, I did mine in math. Took 2 programming courses in uni, everything else was self taught. You can definitely do it yourself and there are plenty of resources to get there. Most employers don’t care about your education, just your skill

[wraith dagger]

Okay thanks, just checking, appreciate it. What about the backpack issue on MP? I have a hotkey to drop my bag, but Sometimes when I hit the hotkey, my bag goes on "the ground" but also into my main inventory, giving me overencumbered moodle, while still being on the ground. Has that one been mentioned?

[hidden rapids]

…this makes me feel so much better ngl, I want to get into programming again but I’m so scared of even more debt ._.

[hidden rapids]

Yep known bug XD

[wraith dagger]

Okay just checking lol 😅

[hidden rapids]

❤️ not a problem, TIS forums has a bug report section that I skim so I stay updated 🙂

[royal widget]

makes sense, employer cares not for a fancy paper if you don't know basics and actual useful things. which, like you said, can be evident at times

here's Sully encouraging people for better life choices ffs

[obtuse hornet]

I mean, learning coding vastly improved my life... so yeah, I'll recommend it to anyone who thinks it's for them. You gotta be motivated though, it's not an easy thing to learn if you can't keep yourself on it

[wraith dagger]

Do you reccommend GDscript for making games on Godot engine? I've been looking into that

[obtuse hornet]

I've not worked with Godot personally, but if you're using Godot I would recommend GDscript yeah. It has better integration with the engine than C# (though C# still works), and will always have better integration since GDScript is designed specifically for Godot

[light hound]

It's more fun to learn for me than most other common jobs

Modding cures my boredom

[obtuse hornet]

The number of shitty little throwaway applications I make to improve my life is up there too. Like I made a little warframe assistant to track when there are alerts/invasions I care about so I don't miss them and don't have to log into the game or check some other site manually... it just sends me a notification

Have a few reddit bots built too

[light hound]

Nice

[obtuse hornet]

And a TwitchNotification bot that sends me a Discord message whenever someone I want to be notified of goes live

[light hound]

That's one way to not need to join a discord server for just pings lol

I'm surprised twitch hasn't done some sort of integration with discord

[obtuse hornet]

yeah it would be really easy to do

[heady lake]

I don't suppose the weird pathing issues will be fixed as well for this week will they?

[ebon leaf]

Has anyone else noticed this?

The game really needs a proper lobby system for co-op. Right now, when I host a server, I load into the world immediately and have to wait for my friends to join. While I'm waiting, my character's stats (hunger, thirst, fatigue) are already draining.

By the time everyone else spawns, our sleep schedules and stats are completely desynced. We need a 'waiting room' feature so the host can wait for everyone to connect, and then we can all spawn in together simultaneously."

[obtuse hornet]

We're still investigating. If you have reliable reproduction steps please let us know... we are trying to find the cause, but can't recreate it on our end

[heady lake]

I actually submitted a bug report for it over the weekend. I can link it here or dm to you if that'll help? 🙂

[obtuse hornet]

Pretty good suggestions, will feed it back to the team

[obtuse hornet]

Yeah link it here, and if anybody has the same issue they can provide more info

[ebon leaf]

thank you!!

[earnest saffron]

That would make it so much better brooo

Especially when we leave on a horde chasing us

[crimson mason]

when will we be expecting a patch to roll out?
played last copule of days and all the new stuff is basicly broken
from not being able to dry leather to animals basicly infuriating how many ways that it can go wrong

[obtuse hornet]

One is scheduled this week... we're trying to hammer out as many bugs as we can

[heady lake]

Here you go 😁
https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/88945-42130-zombie-pathing-issues/#comment-450585

[obtuse hornet]

Do you recall what traits you took? We've seen some reports that certain traits might be involved

[heady lake]

I can't remember fully but i included the save with my character so the traits should all be there

[obtuse hornet]

Was this single player?

[heady lake]

It was yeah

Now that i think about it i remember having inconspicuous and graceful if that's affecting it?

I also included the game settings in case something in there was messing it up

[slender echo]

Would be really grateful for the answer from the staff:
How soon running zeds and fixes for bugs like unable to sleep and organized trait not working would be added?

Do you plan to make an update in a ~month or should we wait for something like this in a week?

[obtuse hornet]

#1448601677874729024 message

[slender echo]

got it, thanks

[heady lake]

Actually no now that i remember i changed my traits to make my character more fit to get there quicker to replicate the bug. It wasn't my usual traits i use for the game

[dusky bolt]

i work with some programmers and one thing they all have in common is a personal passion for programming in some shape or form.
They all do their side projects and did learn most of it by themselves.
Relying on a formal education to become a software developer and earn money with it is only part of the way. The field is very dynamic and the ones who stop learning on their own are often the ones that deliver subpar quality.

First thing to becoming a programmer in my opinion is learning how to learn because that will be 80% of what you are doing for the first 10-20 years.
It is a running joke that a good amount of devs just google and copy&paste and this is true BUT they learn while they do it. Its not about knowing the functions or syntax, its learning about how the available tools help you fix the problem.

So yeah, go ahead and do some fun projects, there are countless ressources online to help new people in the field.

[slender echo]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-truth-nuke-arnold-schwarzenegger-arnold-shook-gif-6352525456991560778

[west vessel]

Can't comment on whether it covered every potential pathfinding issue, but Tim worked some magic 🍻

[heady lake]

Thank you tim

[obtuse hornet]

Okay great... I couldn't find the ticket anywhere

[mighty pebble]

Are those happening just in MP?

[wraith dagger]

I heard somewhere next week

[fresh estuary]

Idk if this has been said, but I found a bug the otherday, where rosewood spawns would spawn all players in the same house, every time.

[mellow swallow]

I presume the patch for this week wont arrive until the end of the week @obtuse hornet

So it catches as much as possible before christmas week

[deft cape]

No, don't presume anything.

[mellow swallow]

Its the patch they plan for this week.

[deft cape]

Did they announce that? I probably missed it.

[mellow swallow]

Sully said it a bit earlier

[deft cape]

Oh nice, then just be patient, and again, don't presume anything.

[mellow swallow]

Here

[deft cape]

They usually drop updates/patches only when they are ready, even if it's the last day of this week.

[deft cape]

Thanks

[mellow swallow]

Yeah. I think it being a focused patch to let them all relax for christmas week and maybe go watch the third Avatar film is a good thing for them.

[deft cape]

Wait, please tell me this is a bug, right? RIP hobo runs if otherwise.

[hidden rapids]

not all chips rot still

[deft cape]

42.13 really did change the game balance.

[royal widget]

late reply from me, but thanks for the encouragement, I am not any kind of unmotivated for it, I don't hate the idea, and especially if it teaches me useful skills I can do some side money with eventually, it cannot be that bad. Hell, doing it the finnish way and code a phone app that has some use, would be interesting.

I just procrastinate a lot of things...bit worried about the learning process too - but you already provided some good sources with mr Harber, so that's something I have saved up for the inevitable "gotcha" moment when you release stable 42 before my birthday just out of spite

[west vessel]

Looks like a number of food items were given stale/rotten values, but there's a lot of inconsistencies. Still pending an official balancing pass

[hidden rapids]

man, no offence but I'd rather y'all wait till after the balancing pass to do this stuff. Doing it in this order just makes a bunch of people upset because they think these are intended values (like me for example XD )

[royal widget]

...wouldn't waiting for long time to fix them make people think its intended to work this way?

[hidden rapids]

well yea, that's what's happening though ._. just look at meat calories and roadkill, there was no hint of a balancing pass when those were put it, and it's natural to assume that things that are added into the game are at least a little balanced

[worldly lily]

There's an issue with the knife finish move, if it gets stuck in the zombies head it disappears from the players inventory and the zombie till you rejoin.

Zombies keep eating my hunting knife..

[obtuse hornet]

Balancing unfortunately has to be last because we have to sift out what's a bug, and what's a genuine balance issue. Don't want to rebalance, only to fix a bug later that shifts that balance again, and then have to redo the balancing

[hidden rapids]

😔 yea that's fair

[royal widget]

bugs get smashed first, if the issue persists, it's a feature that may need balancing

[obtuse hornet]

🔨

[royal widget]

but yeah i've waited for things like calories balancing for a long time by now, so its understandable to be annoyed

[signal hatch]

Ah yes, the bethesda approach

Can't fix it? Well good job on the new feature team!

[royal widget]

Bethesda approach is to make the players fix the game for them and they get the awards based on the player-fix product

[hidden rapids]

Do we have any hints on how things will be balanced? A tiny teaser? Look i'm just really excited and nervous lmao, if the fishing bait changes are intentional and not a bug...

[signal hatch]

Bethesda reviews be like

10/10 amazing game love it, here is the modpack with 500 mods necessary to play the game, great game bethesda love y'all

[hidden rapids]

I hate that you're so right 🤣

[obtuse hornet]

No, our new design director is going through everything at the moment and trying to figure all of that out. We intend to get some feedback from the community, but naturally at the moment we're swamped with B42 multiplayer

[royal widget]

based and true

[hidden rapids]

🫡

[obtuse hornet]

But we'll be isolating all the pain points and addressing them, definitely

[hidden rapids]

Shall I begin writing my 300 page document on everything I'd like to see changed? >:)

[signal hatch]

Can the devs please nerf work? It makes it hard to play the game

[royal widget]

Any idea when the animal growth speeds etc will be defaulted to realistic rates? Asking because I recall them to be introduced to grow and mature much faster for testing purposes, I know sandbox has options for it

[obtuse hornet]

lol I'd hold off, but I think once B42 MP is in a much better place we will put out some feedback gathering and then you can write your novel

[hidden rapids]

XDD yippie!

[royal widget]

And if/when animals will behave/live/grow more realistically, THEN balancing the calories makes more sense, to get million calories worth from a single cow, choosing to sacrifice it for short term gain vs keeping it around

[signal hatch]

You know what would be a great thing? MP PVP option to make any hit keep the health above 10%

This way you can push your friend around without accidentally doing a mortal combat fatility on his head

[royal widget]

a mass produced, genetic monster cow growing to adult in weeks should not give million calories, but a cow requiring YEARS in-game to grow definitely should ^^

[hidden rapids]

a duel mode pvp would actually be neat as hell. no clue how it would work though

[signal hatch]

Do you want us to suffer?

[royal widget]

Yes, but only because I have a memory of animal growth speed being unrealistic atm because it's testing purposes

[signal hatch]

just putting restrictions on stuff ig,

Health stays above 20%, no critical wounds beeing applied etc.

[royal widget]

so to me its not intended for animals to grow as fast as they are atm

[misty barn]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-so-over-it's-so-back-we're-back-furrend-we're-back-gif-14776134527725176612

[hidden rapids]

Yes, I want us to suffer and cry

[royal widget]

well anything beyond "ah this cow I murdered is 2 meals tops" is better than nothing

[signal hatch]

[royal widget]

obviously I am exaggerating atm, haven't played for a while and butchering skill + hook affects the ze gains

but yeah no point getting million calories worth of meat if its all gonna spoil without the promised food preservation stuff for B42 that are missing, for now

[signal hatch]

Oh yes also

" the animal growth speeds etc will be defaulted to realistic rates"

[insert: "the devs only add realism when it nerfs the player" post]

[hidden rapids]

XD i'm barely joking

I want realistic problems with realistic solutions. Cows give lots of meat? Make them get sick and injured to increase the cost of caring for them

[royal widget]

Devs have addressed it some time ago, bad realism vs good realism is a reddit meme, they do not intend to only give bad realism

[signal hatch]

Sick and injured would actually be a dope way to make first aid more important

[hidden rapids]

FR

Oh, you're crafting something complex with low skill? let me do it but let me get injured

[royal widget]

It is simple to ask for this and that realism, in a span of years between builds...need to also give time for devs to implement the balancing and realism players may yearn for

[signal hatch]

I know, they often add "good realism" it's really just survivorship bias

[signal hatch]

Yes please, more ways to get injured

[deft cape]

It's not upsetting me. I just find this "bug" funny and challenging to play.

[royal widget]

surprisingly enough, me asking for realism in a single matter, takes me 10 seconds to type. But it probably is not a 10 second programming matter. Or early in the priority list.

[signal hatch]

As long as it's not "Whoopsy daisy, I tried to hit the nail but hit it at an awkward angle, then it ricochet of the generator causing a catastrophic explosion and got lodged in my neck"

[deft cape]

In real life, potato and tortilla chips can get stale and rot even inside bags.

[hidden rapids]

Oh, meat is super easy to get and freezers are op? Make freezers and electronics require maintenance 😈

[signal hatch]

As long as it's toggleable no one cares I think

[olive thistle]

HIIII

[hidden rapids]

Just so long as it's not overtuned lol. Give me at least a year before something breaks if we're focusing on long term playthroughs

[signal hatch]

Tho I already said before and even made a post that there are better ways to make electronics more viable like

-wiring to increase generator range
-wiring in general "think factorio style"
-alarm systems
-sirens
-codable control systems
-electric fences (why are they not a thing yet?)

etc.

Remote gates, stuff like that

[hidden rapids]

pls pls pls plsplsplsplspls garage openers in cars

[signal hatch]

Thats what you find the most interesting? lol

You do you ig

[hidden rapids]

XD whaaatttt it would be neat

[signal hatch]

I mean sure, but wiring and PLC's?

Way cooler

[royal widget]

low tech pulling rope to open the wooden gates while inside a car

hate getting out of the car just to open the doors!

[signal hatch]

Just drive through it man, what are you, a girl?

[hidden rapids]

LET ME DRIVE THROUGH FENCES AND DOORS YOU COWARDS

[royal widget]

have you tried ramming a car against a wooden wall? only zeds have this superpower of demolishing stone castles with hugs

[hidden rapids]

DOn't forget cows, cows will eat your brick walls if you so much as look at them funny

[royal widget]

pigs, too, eat metal walls

[hidden rapids]

😭 I hate it so much

mfw you want to raise cows and also hunt and you shoot a gun within 47 miles of your base so your livestock devour your entire house -_-

[royal widget]

farm animals should not probably be scared of melee sounds, maybe the sight of gruesome bashing but sounds...

[hidden rapids]

what am I, a caveman XD I don't hunt deer with sticks

[royal widget]

well when you get singular zeds in your base, you dont need to go guns blazing and scare everything around you

if you can find a deer family in your base you need to hunt...

[dull arrow]

Shit man yea. I hope its to late yet for me. Currently in year 2 with 1 more year next and then im supposed to be a professional developer. But you both are im gonna practice java since my internship i want to be requires that

[deft cape]

Your internship wants you to learn Java because the current trend right now is cloud computing. You'll become a T-stack dev, not a frontend HTML/JS/CSS webdev.

[ionic thorn]

This is a good suggestion

[obtuse hornet]

I said our Design Director is already looking at balancing. Will mention this particular pain point and see if he can incorporate it.

[umbral atlas]

Haha no

[obtuse hornet]

Serellen reacted with 💯 to me putting that on his list, so expect it, and if he doesn't deliver be sure to hold him accountable

[ionic thorn]

Looking forward to the 40 hour week bugfix 🙏

[mighty pebble]

I hope he can reach the highest heights of balance

[royal widget]

He will wipe half the bugs, half the features with a snap

[mellow swallow]

just had a small zomboid update of a few hundred kilobites?

[west vessel]

[mellow swallow]

most likely I hate it when steam doesnt say that 😅

[umbral atlas]

the sneaker update

[hidden rapids]

😠 😠 😠

[umbral atlas]

haha

unless we get chicken patties from running them into fence

[mellow swallow]

Tiny complaint as I reset my install entirely the inventory menu is a bit too big now making even "small size" quite big on the 1440p monitor.

[tranquil otter]

i have noticed this as well

[signal hatch]

Tell him some community members already drafted up a solution called 4 day work week

I heard heard the tryhard fanboys are against it tho and said "git gud scrub"

[umbral atlas]

lol

huh

tryheard

more colour carpets k thnx

[hidden rapids]

XD the minmax office managers

[signal hatch]

They are the worst, and they always talk down to you too!

[hidden rapids]

"Oh, does the big baby want to go home and see his family? Does the wittle ittle bitty adult have hopes and dreams? 🥲 "

[signal hatch]

They keep telling me to use AI. I keep telling them the NPC update isn't out yet

[hidden rapids]

XD

[lusty lagoon]

Anymore notable fixes in the coming hotfix besides Stuttering? If I'm asking too often call me a bozo

[hidden rapids]

Maybe a bozo, but someone needs to make the sacrifice to ask what we’re all wondering :3

[vital tundra]

Hi, can anybody tell me how to export my map into the game, build 42?

[kind herald]

allow the cooking process to continue, young jester

[signal hatch]

I just want the stamina fixed

[patent flame]

That and the zombies zoning in on you would be beautiful, could deal with all the other bugs lol

[deft cape]

You can't. It's incompatible.

[frank adder]

Guys watch out for cows when you butcher them you cant eq anything, and when you rejoin

And the cow respawns in your hands so infinite food glitch i guess

[worldly lily]

Yeah theres a couple big bugs with animals, but they aren't too hard to fix.

Most of the time you just need to rejoin

[frank adder]

Ye

I fixed what i sended cus i mixed up something

[worldly lily]

Honestly on the topic, i do enjoy that most of the bugs that are seen are either easy to fix, or are simply visual. For a stress test the mp really isn't half bad

[ancient carbon]

were caffeine pills buffed at some point? i remeber them not being great

[brazen inlet]

the chickens are committing mitosis in just a few days, they've multiplied to hundreds and are crashign me xD

[umbral atlas]

😆

[sly hornet]

My god it back

The chicken bomb has came back

[brazen inlet]

indeeed! from minecraft to PZ

i wonder has it been submitted as a bug?

[umbral atlas]

hshahah

[brazen inlet]

i have tried to delete the chunk data... the chicken bomb remained

i have given zomboid 8gbs of ram via json, i have laoded in
no 3d sprites on eggs... *(there is close to 140 eggs PER tile)

[bronze plover]

Rimworld but isometric

[brazen inlet]

🔥

[deft cape]

Time for devs to start implementing entity limits. 20 movable entities occupying a single tile shall either be despawned or die naturally.

A la MineCraft chunk entity limit.

/s

[umbral atlas]

lol what was that mod that removed stuffs

[brazen inlet]

maybe maybe, i dont think they had to think about it before because it wasn't an issue before really but am sure they'll figure it out ^-^

[tawny imp]

hi guys how stable is mp yet

[umbral atlas]

uh no

[brazen inlet]

as stable as the goth person in the back of the club after a few drinks

[umbral atlas]

not too bad but it has buggies

[tawny imp]

yes thas what i wana hear time to wake da homis

do u strill fall out da map in base ments

[brazen inlet]

dont think so? but nimble doesnt give xp
so its a fair trade

[umbral atlas]

lol , i havent seen that since 42 first came out

[tawny imp]

i mostly playd project russia mod cause b 42 no mp

[wanton pond]

HAs anyone come across scratch tickets? Everytime i use it it duplicates and never scratches it 🙁

[halcyon oyster]

Why does the game not allow you to carry two weapons on the backpack?

[hidden rapids]

two weapons on one backpack? Sounds like witchcraft to me

[halcyon oyster]

How is it witchcraft?

Have you ever played PUBG? TLOU?

DayZ

[hidden rapids]

No why

[halcyon oyster]

Because you can do that in those games

And it makes perfect sense

Tarkov as well

[light hound]

You have a point, backpacks have 2 sides to them, and they're usually mostly symmetrical

PZ character famously slides their back weapon into their skin and it fuses to the spine

[halcyon oyster]

Might as well fuse two

But on a backpack

only

Like, how is it still not in vanilla
I remember having a wonderful Noir's attachment mod but it's not supported in 42 anymore, unfortunately

[signal hatch]

Yup same lol

[gleaming parrot]

Chef now has Short Blunt instead of Short Blade, was this a mistake or intentional?

[main elm]

Ive been here! Its pretty neat imo. I really fixer upper

[main elm]

Hahaha

[main elm]

Yess i believe so

Ive noticed an improvement too

[tired lodge]

Let's make it worse, benzos

Can't find your medicine? That's gonna be a new character!

[left forum]

What does foraging for "animals" do in B42? Do you still find critter corpses/roadkill or does it do nothing due to animal NPCs being added?

Also, are animal tracks bugged in this version? I know they're already sort of hard to find but I haven't had any luck yet

[dusky bolt]

chunk limit killing farms have always been my favorite

[deft cape]

If you do, make sure to remember where it is and grab that X and Y tile position coordinates, and then report them to the devs on the forums.

[deft cape]

Yeah, because it can also limit how many zomboids in an area. I wondered if that will actually make the devs NOT consider chunk limits because of this.

[bronze plover]

Theres scratch tickets? Can we gamble

[candid vector]

Is there a known temporary work around that anybody knows of for the horse trailer crashing client? It's making MP literally un testable.

[signal hatch]

They didn't remove critter etc.

NPC animals are a addition not a replacement

[wanton pond]

my map markings are disappering after i relog in 🙁

[unkempt cave]

Do we have any idea when the first hotfix will be, i am personally assuming after Christmas

[shut cape]

++

[stoic turret]

I think sully said the team are working on one for this week.

[patent slate]

is there a horse in it, and at a safehouse?

[candid vector]

I found a workaround. Horses aren't in the game yet. Animals and safehouse zones don't seem to get along and is also causing the crashing.

[patent slate]

yeah, I meant any animal.

it seems animals have a player name. if you enable death announcements, You will kill bob for dinner

[umbral atlas]

that is so funny lol

[low wagon]

this hotfix is getting cold

[copper barn]

Warmfix

[umbral atlas]

ITS BEEN $ DAYS

i like caps

[signal hatch]

No need to flex your wealth like that

[wicked relic]

it's been money days

[umbral atlas]

i dont need money when i have you guys

[wicked relic]

such a kind soul in such a cruel world

[naive elk]

❤️

!heli

[kind bluff]

https://media.giphy.com/media/H4zeDO4ocDYqY/giphy.gif

[naive elk]

Irl heli event

[young moon]

can't wait for this tbh. I hope devs aware of clothing sticking to the character in mp, until rejoining.
And opening box of ammunition while driving a vehicle makes you unable to do any activities than driving

[copper barn]

Has anyone else’s pistol magazines disappeared from existence

[devout lantern]

I'm really hoping for even a small bug fix patch this week.

[copper barn]

My friend won’t play until the patch releases please indiestone she needs this

[analog blaze]

Is there a way to make ham and cheese?

I know there's a way for making butter

[earnest saffron]

Ham?

[naive elk]

[umbral atlas]

[ancient carbon]

had a rat just jump in front of my swing, saving the sprinter that proceeded to bite me.

rip

[storm thicket]

That deserves a proper bug report cause should be a pretty wasy fix

[wanton pond]

Are zeds spawning ontop of snyone else, like in their base

[ancient carbon]

maybe. funny to think that the rat purposefully saved the zed.

[west vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/remember-me-as-a-hero-james-3little-mice-cinderella-movie-remember-my-sacrifices-gif-23112843

[analog blaze]

Yep, exactly that

[analog blaze]

Xdddd

[twilit mural]

oh man we got a canadian here

so hows the quebec maple syrup, eh?

[ember jetty]

!hana

[kind bluff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1079967390957305857/1079981870051229726/unknown-221.png

[crisp coral]

does it have mods or nah

[wicked relic]

!hana

[kind bluff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1079967390957305857/1080035045806460958/IMG_4843.png

[wicked relic]

lmao i love this command

[static widget]

!hana

[kind bluff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1079967390957305857/1079972552417480734/unknown-376.png

[mint pasture]

!hana

!hana

[kind bluff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1079967390957305857/1080035046959882270/unknown-403.png

[mint pasture]

!hana

ghosted me

[void nimbus]

anyone tried sprinters with MP? or are they just not spawning?

[wicked relic]

think it only works every few minutes or so

!hana

yeah

[mighty pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

All the MP players having to wait a week for a hotfix lmao

[left forum]

Can we get a dedicated server commands for reloading lua stuff or clearing caches? could help troubleshoot some of the foraging zone stuff etc (unless there is some sort of race condition where the foraging initialization happens too late)

[naive elk]

Djackz and SoHotBonzy have both streamed mp sprinters

Requires a mod to get working and is pretty jank

[ember jetty]

!heli

[kind bluff]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZ3drazJ2MmF3aDhkYnpiazIydHY0OTNvaDZnczJtOWEwdzRnaHNkcyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/xUNda2Bwi8LVeQAw1y/giphy.gif

[left forum]

I think the only fix for foraging that works rn is going far enough away that the chunk is reloaded

[grim fractal]

W patch

[void nimbus]

more like L

[lusty lagoon]

read the room bozo, your pessimism is in poor taste, fade away into your own irrelevance

[void nimbus]

still an L, bozo.

its next to impossible to do anythin with the exertion never going away

[mellow hare]

bro, we get it... since two month... we know u have no friends to play with. btw no wonder.. awful person...

[deft cape]

What are your character's strength and fitness levels? Maybe you need to go find a treadmill and a generator, and start running on it.

[earnest saffron]

The hotfix should be coming like in the span of 3 days

[void nimbus]

i hope so

[void nimbus]

fitness lvl 3, strength lvl 3

[deft cape]

Yeah, both of them are too low.

[signal hatch]

No, exhaustion is just fucked rn

[deft cape]

🤔🤔🤔

I will scour the forums a bit.

[signal hatch]

About?

[deft cape]

Exertion

[ionic thorn]

What a strange message

[deft cape]

Maybe it got confirmed by the QA team?

[signal hatch]

#1448601677874729024 message

[void nimbus]

yea pretty much that

[deft cape]

Ah, it was here instead.

[shy ridge]

any way to fix the exhaustion problem on a server? like sandbox settings or something?

[patent flame]

No way to fix it ATM. Best thing you can do is keep a car nearby your base as the resting while sitting in a car isn't broken right now.

[analog blaze]

how do i take care of rabbits do they need a coop or something the like?

like, tehy are farm animals arent they?

[patent flame]

Pretty sure they just need your normal farmzone with a fence, a trough with animal feed/grass/fruits, water, and bedding I believe?

[sly hornet]

Truly the most American thing I have recently heard.

[patent flame]

How so? 😂

[sly hornet]

Does it have to be a red pickup truck aswell?

I heard that does best with an cheap can beer to fully feel refreshed

[patent flame]

You're forgetting my 12 lb bacon burger alongside that beer there brother

[sly hornet]

The truck also need to smell like cigarettes, and an infant should just be in the back with no seatbelt on with your trusty shotgun

[patent flame]

My trusty 30 ROUND CLIP shotgun

[sly hornet]

The radio be blasting off Christian music or country music. Don't forget it kenwucky

[analog blaze]

whats bedding?

[patent flame]

I lied, I thought you needed some sort of bedding. You don't, just the farm zone and a way to keep them stress free from zombies

[analog blaze]

and thats hte fences

[candid vector]

Needs to be clean as well, with no random items on the ground

[patent flame]

You don't NEED fences but it does keep them from fucking bolting after a zombie scares them

[signal hatch]

I honestly didn't even know resting inside a car gave the same benefit as resting on the ground😂

[eager yoke]

All I really really want fixed is foraging zones tbh. Obvi there’s a lot of other needed fixes but this one bothers the fuck out of me lol.

[hidden rapids]

Honestly XD foraging is my life

[patent flame]

It really surprises me to see people say that when the pathing is so bugged for the zombies, so thye just find you no matter what lol. But I also don't blame you for that cause holy fuck is finding stones a pain when you can only walk the highways 😂

[eager yoke]

Well my crew wants to do a foraging only run and well…

[patent flame]

https://tenor.com/view/tedlasso-yikes-gif-27201348

Highway foraging only run it is 😂

[robust rapids]

devs cooked with this version

absolutely amazing 🔥

[west vessel]

I know it doesn't address all of the foraging issues, but in the meanwhile stones & branches can still be collected from the Gardening submenu 🙏

[sly hornet]

What wrong with the zombies?

I notice a lot of them move to the left for some reason. Is that what everyone having issue with no reason

[obtuse hornet]

There is a bug with zombies zeroing in on certain locations (or the player). I have seen reports that it resolves if you turn migration off.

[sly hornet]

I don't see them going to an certain location i only saw them just going left like straight left it doesn't look like they were going to an certain location

[glass salmon]

I had this issue, so I’ll take my foil hat off

[obtuse hornet]

Yeah they definitely were all going to the same place... it was just far away. We've seen them going from Rosewood to Muldragh for instance... So yeah... something broken there that we're looking into. But yeah, some reports that turning off migration stops that.

[analog blaze]

Hey, do you know if there is any place beside the wiki where I can see how to properly farm, what the animals eat etc? Because they keep scaping and breaking my fences and making me want to kill myself

I had some hare and they all went out and now that I have pigs apart from being bugged asf (I think it's maybe MP? Would like to get confirmation on this one) they just go away and wander everywhere

[sly hornet]

They eat hay, grass, animal feed

They might be breaking out due to being stress if there zombies nearby they will freak out

[analog blaze]

And what about zombies corpses?

They seem to be perma stressed, could it be due to that

[analog blaze]

Do you happen to know what animals break fences?

[sly hornet]

I think all of them

I know cows, pigs, sheep's, break them but I haven't tested the turkeys, chicken, and rabbits though

[royal widget]

sheep, cows, pigs

chicken and small animals didn't seem to do anything to any walls

[sly hornet]

Sully did you see that someone experienced the chicken bomb again

[analog blaze]

It was them darned pigs

[analog blaze]

So, rabbits and chickens are no issue no?

[sly hornet]

What about rats hmmmm

[royal widget]

I didn't have the small ones break anything when I last played around Feb-March, even if stressed

[analog blaze]

And what can I do for pigs to not fucking obliterate the fences

[royal widget]

you keep them not-stressed

no loud noises, running, fighting with zeds near your animals, or executing them for food

[analog blaze]

Ok and how's that done because there are no zombies now and I pet them

[analog blaze]

Running too? Fuck

[royal widget]

animals sure are timid in B42, yeah

[analog blaze]

And all the fences are good for keeping them in?

Like the white ones of premade buildings

[royal widget]

they will destroy fences/walls of any kind, stone, metal, you name it...if stressed and built by player

[sly hornet]

Never had issues with them for running around them but they dislike me cutting trees down near them

[royal widget]

prebuilt walls at least are immune to their wrath

[analog blaze]

That's good to know

These aren't animals they are fucking bulldozers

[royal widget]

...but garage doors, and such that you can dismantle without a sledge are not

[obtuse hornet]

Content creators would probably be your best bet if not the wiki.

[analog blaze]

any recomendations?

[obtuse hornet]

Yup... Chickenpocalypse pops up once again... fixed internally (again), and will go out with the hotfix

[obtuse hornet]

Sorry no, don't want to play favourites. The other guys here can give you recommendations though

[sly hornet]

Hopefully it will stay gone lol I remember y'all having issue with that one cropping back up

[analog blaze]

WHEN'S IT STIMATED TO GO OUT AND WHAT THINGS ARE BEING FIXED ON A MAJOR LEVEL?

[harsh nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/delay-the-update-gachi-gif-2248412581895248061

[sly hornet]

Probably after they come back from holiday

I doubt they would be able to push it out in a couple of days

[west vessel]

#1448601677874729024 message

[obtuse hornet]

This week and you'll need to wait for the patch notes. Stuttering issues are the highlight for me, but there's a big list.

[analog blaze]

OOOOOH, THATS NICE

[sly hornet]

Oh damn I didn't see that

[analog blaze]

but saves will be broken no?

[obtuse hornet]

assume they will break

[sly hornet]

What y'all gotten fixed at the moment?

[obtuse hornet]

always assume they will break

[obtuse hornet]

#1448601677874729024 message

[sly hornet]

Is there an bug with some moodles?

Because I swear something is off with my guy

[harsh nimbus]

theyre gonna save christmas a second time‼️

[obtuse hornet]

I don't think the moodles themselves are off... but think there have been issues with stats being off

which likely cause your moodles

[sly hornet]

Nothing wrong with the depressed moodle?

[obtuse hornet]

can you be more specific by what you mean with an issue with the moodle?

[sly hornet]

It hard to explain but it like my guy is suffering from actually depression. Like for no reason he lose all hope. I get being uncomfortable would make them upset he isn't he just randomly start declining

Only way to keep him happy is actually keeping him on antidepressants lol

And when he does get depressed he then get really moisted afterwards so I was just curious if the moodles were a bit bugged

[obtuse hornet]

Okay so that wouldn't be a moodle problem, but a depression/stat problem. I'm not aware of anything affecting depression itself, but probably best to see if it's still an issue after the hotfix, and if it is just filing a bug report.

[sly hornet]

Alright I wouldn't really know how to replicate the bug if it is one though

[obtuse hornet]

well we will cross that bridge when we come to it

[sly hornet]

Alright

Bro got no reason to be depressed it not like there an zombie apocalypse going on

[analog blaze]

is there a generalized issue with naimlas and ropes being bugged as fuck or is it just me? because the chickens shouldnt be able to trespass fences if there is no hole in the structure but they still do

or should they be able to trespass fences

[obtuse hornet]

There were a number of issues with animals that will be fixed. Given that a hotfix is coming this week, probably best at this point to see if those fixes resolved your problem, and if not then report as a bug. Will just keep things clear and focused for the team

[analog blaze]

kk, thanks for the attention

[umbral atlas]

The great cluckocalypse

[lusty lagoon]

Is there any setting sandbox wise that decreases endurance loss for actions and combat

i only see a setting for regaining it

[eager yoke]

Please let drying racks and forgaging be fixed

[lusty lagoon]

does it fall under stat decrease

yes it would seem setting Stat Decrease to Slow counteracts the crazy amount of endurance loss to some degree

[tired lodge]

it's the KFC we made along the way

[brazen inlet]

it was me with the chicken bomb, it was very funny
10/10 would lost 99% of my fps again
you can give the team my thanks though <3
having a great time with my GF despite all the bugs and just working around them

[umbral atlas]

yay so glad to see people enjoying mp

[patent flame]

Oh shit, thank you for letting me know that! It took FOREVER to try and find enough stones for something like a forge. That'll speed it up till then at least!

[loud pond]

Happened to me when I took smoker trait and forgot about it

It happened a long time ago tho

[mighty pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/that-is-rude-matty-matheson-larb-is-goooood-its-disrespectful-impolite-gif-26328309

[umbral atlas]

wth lol

[mighty pebble]

Right in the feelings!

[warm flint]

that is honestly hilarious and i think would be amazing as a sandbox setting for challenge runs

[mellow hare]

yeah because u are too always:*

[mighty pebble]

Lmao what is this ‘always’, for the last month all I ever posted was the ‘delay the update’ gif as part of a group joke?

[obtuse hornet]

let's all get along... mandatory group hugs or I'll kick all of your asses

[warm flint]

what if there was a chamber of friendship where we detain those who argue until they learn to get along

[obtuse hornet]

we have that... it's the PZ Ban Appeals Discord

[mighty pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/bobby-king-of-the-hill-rock-on-gif-9773399083220330024

[warm flint]

Lmao

[mighty pebble]

Is there actually a ban appeal discord hahaha

[obtuse hornet]

there very much is

[mighty pebble]

I think if I ever got banned I’d just accept my exile :p

I’m actual curious what Ryder is talking about though, wonder if he mixed me up with someone? lol

[willow moth]

Inferno. contain the need to point out their pfp is AI, Inferno.

[obtuse hornet]

not worth investigating imo... too many faceless people on the internet to care about someone not liking you

[mighty pebble]

Right… the church of low expectations

[obtuse hornet]

^

converting my wife is how I got her to date me

[mighty pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/bobs-burgers-gene-long-con-gif-17191263

[mighty pebble]

Btw you were right.. other games do, in fact, exist!

[obtuse hornet]

I'm always right... wish people would catch on to that fact. Cursed with a Cassandra complex

[mighty pebble]

Quick, there is a lottery here that got to 80 million. Give me one set of seven numbers between 1-50!

If I win I will buy 1 million copies of PZ and give them all away

[umbral atlas]

what about ass kicking and hugs

[obtuse hornet]

I said I'm always right, not that I know everything

[obtuse hornet]

I mean if people are into that, sure

[umbral atlas]

😆 that hurts my head lol

hell yea

[mighty pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/trust-the-force-yoda-the-clone-wars-star-wars-gif-16326561

[royal widget]

how long until stable B42 when overload begins

or scrap that, I forgot I promised to try B42 MP with a friend soon(tm)

[umbral atlas]

whats overloaf

[royal widget]

that

[umbral atlas]

lol

[merry galleon]

any new about fix ? so many bugs

[royal widget]

a bugfix patch coming before christmas

[merry galleon]

damm

[west vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/lost-numbers-gif-8416367

[umbral atlas]

LOL NOOO

[obtuse hornet]

trying to ruin this poor guy's life

[royal widget]

them numbers, what do they mean

there's 42, this is a prophecy

[mighty pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/lost-go-back-jack-we-have-to-go-back-gif-5469258

[umbral atlas]

😆

[mighty pebble]

Funny thing is so many people pick those, if I won I’d get like a quarter

[obtuse hornet]

just pick 1 2 3 4 5 6... equal odds

and nobody picks them

[mighty pebble]

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 I’ll do it

[royal widget]

if you can win multi-million prizes with 6 correct numbers, you gonna get bamboozled

[mighty pebble]

@obtuse hornet it’s you and me baby if we win I’ll give you half we both retire and puppers becomes the community manager

[umbral atlas]

wait no lol

[obtuse hornet]

deal... but for real... never play the lottery

[royal widget]

you either win or you lose

ez gg

[mighty pebble]

I had an epistemology professor who would argue that he knows he lost before the draw

But he still bought a ticket!

[royal widget]

I find it funny in Finland, we monopolized all gambling to a state owned company. Which stays wealthy because of the addicts. While advertising and working against addiction.

What if...we banned the whole damn gambling, entirely.

[mighty pebble]

Lmao same here in Ontario

[royal widget]

And now the monopoly will be ended. Can't wait for all kinds of scummy casinos to exploit people

[tired lodge]

(I do miss the public ban appeals)

it was quite funny seeing people pretend to be innocent until the screenshots come out

[umbral atlas]

lol we got barred from those

[tired lodge]

i am easily entertained, what can i say

[tired lodge]

didnt finland also monopolize alcohol?

or was that one of the other 2

[royal widget]

strong alcohol yeah, too conservative to allow even wines in grocery stores, gotta keep people safe from their own culinary choices

[tired lodge]

as a german, I'd take that system in a heartbeat, too much harm to just have it chill in every gas station, but good luck doing that in the country of beer

[fluid raft]

Are you from Canada ? I recognise those tickets lol

[mighty pebble]

Yes hahahaha DONT STEAL ME NUMBERS

or join in and we retire together

[fluid raft]

It is almost tempting, but I am in Quebec. Can I join still?

[fluid raft]

proceeds to steal numbers....

[umbral atlas]

lol " dont steal my numbers!!"

[mighty pebble]

Lmao I haven’t bought any in a while, but when I did I had to verify location in Ontario

[fluid raft]

Yeah... Not gonna happen then haha

[earnest saffron]

Guys the hotfix definitely wontttt come outttt tomorrow right?

[mighty pebble]

[mighty pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/one-never-knows-what-may-happen-catherine-ohara-moira-moira-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20762473

[sly hornet]

I'm not a smoker though and he not exhausted aswell as been outside so it not boredom

[umbral atlas]

dude i miss those lol saw them all the time in alaska you could make out pictures of other animals on those

[west vessel]

Only the penguins & t-rex come to mind atm

[umbral atlas]

the penguins!!! haha

[ornate palm]

patch tonight?

[small steeple]

If you find a solution to this please let me know. It's been driving us crazy on our MP server as we like to kinda rp as our new rando chanrs when we eventually die and have to respawn.

[brazen inlet]

Submitted my first two bug reports

[umbral atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/shialabeouf-clapping-phenomenal-blownaway-standingovation-gif-4385542

[brazen inlet]

unsure if car heaters are supposed to go -4C or to over 40 C while ambient is about 15C~
felt like it wasnt the case in the past

and the second is that if you "smoke" directly from a pack, the animation wont start at all but your matches will get used up

[umbral atlas]

damn lol

[light hound]

PZ would be the only game I have more sessions than hours

[outer thicket]

Cheating in zombiod is so scum lol

[cobalt ocean]

Hi, quick question. Since I’m playing together with someone else, we’ve noticed a few bugs, so I wanted to ask whether these are known issues (which I kind of assume they are).
We’re playing completely without mods.

• The “Organized” trait doesn’t seem to work for us. Inventories can never be filled beyond the standard limit.
• It often happens that items can’t be moved or they disappear. Only after rejoining or restarting the host do the items show up again.
• Players are still quite out of sync when it comes to zombies. It often looks like the other person is getting eaten, even though everything is actually fine.
• The primitive forge can’t be moved (only demolished with a sledgehammer, right?).
• We’re playing with “6 Months Later” — is it normal that some vehicles are completely intact?

[hybrid pecan]

Check the PZ bug tracker. I’m pretty sure I already saw the first three reported there. I’m not sure about the fourth and fifth. If they’re not there, please report them. 🙂

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/forum/85-bug-reports/

[cobalt ocean]

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[lusty lagoon]

i imagine the netcode to be like silk

very hard to weave, but incredibly worthit

you guys at TIS better take next week off

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