B42 MP Released

[patent agate]

I wish!

[simple comet]

Player count will go crazy like when B41 MP dropped 6 years ago

[patent agate]

That, wilderness spawns, and proper server modding support (to avoid us copy pasting mod IDs one by one) are my top wishes

[simple comet]

There is something that someone made already that helps with mod management.

[lusty lagoon]

whats the easiest way to grant ourselves admin on our hosted steam servers?

[civic zodiac]

all of us were sleeping

[patent agate]

Mod manager, yes... But does it work for B42?

[civic zodiac]

by the way should I blame my internet or that the game is on unstable branch for the fact that every player is desynced visually (theyre like 3 tiles behind when running or just jittery movement to compensate)

[real ember]

A small mix of both

[civic zodiac]

Any settings that could maybe help or smt?

[main kettle]

huh

[sullen tree]

set PZ to high priority in task manager, keep player count under 20, and turning off blood decals or something like that also helps

[civic zodiac]

Ill try

Wont blood decal only affect fps?

[faint gulch]

Haven't Played Build 42 yet me and my friends are going in on Saturday im so hyped

[broken stirrup]

hei everyone, i just joined yesterday and got some question. idk where else to ask

is it possible to run dedicated server for the recent unstable release build 42?

[faint gulch]

yeah I guess

[real ember]

Yes, use the unstable branch of the dedicated server tool

[sullen tree]

maybe it’ll help with the desync

[broken stirrup]

where can i find it, do they share it here in the discord?

[real ember]

On steam

[naive elk]

oh weird, where be my wakeful 😮

[real ember]

sleep based traits are missing

[broken stirrup]

ahh okay ill try to find it. thanks for the info

[solid leaf]

omaygot

[broken stirrup]

at least i know where to look

[solid leaf]

itutruhhutit

[real ember]

If you own the game on steam you already have it. Search your library for "Project zomboid dedicated"

[broken stirrup]

im using the cmdsteam one, is it possible

i always serving one for me and my friend to play before

[naive elk]

fair!

[real ember]

#1448601677874729024 message

Use that

[mighty pebble]

When NPCs

[simple comet]

Sent you a DM. B42 will be made compatiable soon. B42 MP did only just come out 12+ hours ago.

[broken stirrup]

thanks alot, you're a lifesaver

[main kettle]

2045

of the next generation of the earth, in this case

[brazen galleon]

never

[west vessel]

/setaccesslevel "yourname" admin
(without the quotation marks)

[main kettle]

Let me be part of Indie Stone

[west vessel]

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/jobs/

[main kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-shaking-head-fisheye-lens-gif-25374523

[harsh nimbus]

put a trigger warning next time

[sullen tree]

https://tenor.com/view/job-jumpscare-job-application-job-meme-job-jumpscare-gif-5102454363566376023

[wanton pond]

Am i the only one having issues trying to remove items from wooden crates? 🙁

[main kettle]

bruh

I have some very bad news for you

It won't just be in wooden crates

https://tenor.com/view/elma-amogus-elma-amogus-gif-22993792

[wanton pond]

D:

[main kettle]

It might be fixed soon

[wanton pond]

Word

[main kettle]

What I did with my friend to fix this was: just go out and come back in, that's all

To be honest, even though it was full of bugs, it was one of the coolest experiences. Tomorrow I'm going to play all day with my friend

[brazen galleon]

fr tho - when will get to dress like this in zomboid?
bunny suits are fire but it's clearly not enough

[main kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/cunning-dog-smile-dog-funny-dog-funny-cunning-gif-10034472352405737248

[brazen galleon]

although if we won't get a unique sound for walking in high heel shoes it wouldn't be worth it

[icy condor]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/88677-random-zombie-speed-sandbox-does-not-work-in-local-host-dedicated-only-singeplayer-b42130/

Found a sandbox bug in b42 multiplayer

Works in Singleplayer b42 just not multiplayer

[icy condor]

I weirdly cant enable only sprinters either :( \

[sullen tree]

iirc sprinters have been disabled in MP for a good while now. Something about desync issues 🤔

[icy condor]

Not in b41

in b41 you can use random and sprinters in vanilla settings fine

the only thing in b41 is you cant specifiy how many sprinters in the random setting that b42 offers

[jagged radish]

are all mods uncompatible with the new update?

[icy condor]

there are some that work but its not recommended to use mods rn in MP

on good news they fixed sprinter audio!

sad news you cant use sprinters in b42 multiplayer 😭

[jagged radish]

lmao

[gaunt jackal]

Took long enough

[sullen tree]

16+ hours is indeed a long time to realize MP released

[umbral atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-frown-angry-upset-mad-gif-18317499875825761658

[topaz cliff]

🔥🔥🔥

[final surge]

2 questions for those patient enough to read through the patchnotes. Would like to know if either or both of these bugs were fixed:

1. Crafting UI resizing for low res devices like Steam Deck
2. Bug with Forging; Crucible with Iron isn't correctly calculated or consumed in forging objects specifically anvils.

[signal hatch]

Hah... no

Did they change the stamina level/use.

I get high exortion after killing like 5 zeds

[void nimbus]

5 zeds will extort any individual

i myself usually walk around with my hands in my pockets

[tender laurel]

This update is a godly christmas gift from devs

We may need to legalize nuclear bombs for this

[civic zodiac]

hey guys. does anyone use 3rd party server hosting yet?

[signal hatch]

Then it changed from B41 to B42

[teal orchid]

has anyone else experienced where multiple friends are in the same room watching tv but no xp gained for anyone? Boredom does go down however. Server Settings allowed for level up in this way so not sure

[icy condor]

just got confirmation no sprinty bois in b42 multiplayer

[void nimbus]

LOL multiplayer, "sorry and unexpected error occured"

[loud pond]

Can it be because you guys already have 3 levels of the skill you watched? Since one of the unstable patches you can't get more than 3 levels just by watching TV

Now you have to actually practice the skill you're trying to learn

[teal orchid]

It’s been throughout the run even for us at level 0 of a skill so unfortunately not

It appears to have been asked so wait and see

[lusty lagoon]

So it's been nearly a day since release, does TIS have any focuses for a hotfix, i imagine the idea is to continue that kind of approach you took with the week testing you did just before launch? I'd imagine less overdrive that, sounded like you guys went crazy to get it ready, I love you guys so much

[lusty lagoon]

Pretty sure it's been that way for a very long time

[lusty lagoon]

XP is a little buggy, rn my character is gaining constant and consistent strength Xp even I'm setting where I'm just sat doing nothing

Sully if you tell me to have low expectations I'll cry

[obtuse hornet]

hotfixes tend to be released for game breaking / P1 bugs, not annoyances. Hotfixes slow down development so we want to do them sparingly. We will be evaluating over the next few days, and proceed accordingly.

[lusty lagoon]

I suppose I haven't run into anything game breaking, just lots of little bugs

Kind of feels like day 1 B42 all over again

Might put into perspective why it took so long for people that just can't fathom it

[obtuse hornet]

yeah, netcode makes everything complicated... and is unfortunately a lot of work

[stoic turret]

I’ve been having fun with friends so far, the team have done very well.

[lusty lagoon]

are you playing with anyone

[thorn verge]

LETS GO

[obtuse hornet]

Not yet... was trying to play with the wife, but she wants to wait until she's done with the current Warframe patch which released a day earlier than us... so uncool

[dusky bolt]

similar here, friends all have to many other things to play

but it will be waiting for us when their hypes slow down

[obtuse hornet]

that's okay though... it'll be here when they are ready... and there will likely be bug fixes in the meantime

patent gamers ftw

[dusky bolt]

yep, i like the concept of forever games that you come back to when the "new and shiny" of others is over

and zomboid is for sure one of those

[terse tiger]

How many years until PZ is fully 3d?

https://tenor.com/view/big-ears-cat-big-ears-cat-cat-with-big-ears-gif-27709709

[obtuse hornet]

The UE5 update is due next week

that's what everyone wants right?

[terse tiger]

Blessed are those who use dynamic displacement

Let your people dig without needing a square grid tile system

[dusky bolt]

i like the tiles and perspective of zomboid.
The worst part of any 3d game is if they just use a bunch of generic photo realistic textures and everything looks quite good in itself but the whole game looks sooo off and misconstructed

grass looks like grass and a tree looks like a tree

but it surely doesnt look like a tree standing on grass

so, id rather have stylized and less realistic graphics, tiles, isometric, whatever instead of that

character/soul > anything for me

[obtuse hornet]

Yeah, I'm a huge fan of the style on PZ as it is. Hyper realistic graphics and a full 3D change, while it would look good, would take away a bit of the charm. On top of that, PZ is very complicated from a computational perspective. I shudder to think about all the additional computation that would be required if it were some UE5 looking game.

[dull arrow]

will there be other animals in the future?

[terse tiger]

I never said that :>. By 3d I meant the fact that some items are still sprite only (necklaces for example).

It would fundamentally (in my idea of it) be the same thing with more... modularity, I guess I can say.

[polar chasm]

Is it worth it to play coop with 1-2 more ppl right now ? how sever are the bugs ?

[loud pond]

Yeah, they confirmed that we're getting humans in b43

[lament bison]

We will also get predator animals like foxes maybe bears and wolfs

[static widget]

ive been hosting for me and 2 others currently and some bugs require server to be restarted, havent found anything that actually softlocks the game though

[lament bison]

I think getting dedicated server is 10x better to counter desync?

[static widget]

might be, i havent ever really used dedicated

[lusty lagoon]

this would ruin a chunk of my life

UE5 is dreadful

too many studios have abandoned awesome engines to use it

[obtuse hornet]

Yes

[obtuse hornet]

Yeah don't worry, that's not happening

[loud pond]

We're definitely going to have predators in pz

Not like foxes or wolves tho

[supple helm]

I WENT ON A CRUISE!!!! DUUUUUDDDDEE... I'm not back till later in the month... ggggaaaa!

[static widget]

what could sedated be used for lol

[lusty lagoon]

certified bozo

[obtuse hornet]

I'll tell her you said that... hope you had a fruitful life

[lusty lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[loud pond]

Idk but be sure to watch your drink in a MP bar

[patent agate]

Anyone knows why my settings file is not showing modded settings after loading in the .ini mods specifically updated for 42.13? I don't seem to be able to load them

[static widget]

[ionic thorn]

Korean being broken gave me hope for it being moved to utf-8 like the others 😔

[polar chasm]

what action that force yall to restart server

[terse tiger]

dynamic cloth tearing when (muehahaha)

[static widget]

When I switched bags at some point it duped my previous bag and locked it in my inventory

So it was just leaving my encumbered and I couldn’t drop it

[obtuse hornet]

Please also be sure to report bugs. It helps us tremendously

!bugreport

[kind bluff]

Your report on Discord might end up being lost to the void. Please report bugs on our forums or Steam:

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/forum/85-bug-reports/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/6/

Please be sure to follow our Bug Reporting Guide to ensure the team receive all necessary information to investigate your issue. https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/43261-bug-reporting-guide-updated-05082025/

[deft wing]

Hi. Do you know if it's possible to play the unstable build 42 on any hosting service? Thanks a lot, guys!

[polar chasm]

Hi is there any estimated hotfix in near future ?

[obtuse hornet]

I know a couple are working on it. Have seen some are already up and running but not sure which. Haven't been paying attention to whcih are up, and which aren't yet though, the community should have more info.

[deft wing]

Thanksss 🙂

[obtuse hornet]

We are currently evaluating. Everything depends on how severe bugs are, and how quickly they get fixed.

[polar chasm]

much appriciated

[lusty lagoon]

they are planning a way to steal christmas

[signal hatch]

Did you change the settings? The standard setting for max lvl is actually at 0 for some reason

(Actually now that I think about it that might've been dismantling)

[lament bison]

ooo

[mint pasture]

Anybody else having super super low endurance? Like I get exhausted after 5 pushes and 1 stomp

[signal hatch]

Yup

I can barely fight anything

[mint pasture]

And did changing the setting not really help?

[signal hatch]

Idk, didn't wanna restart the server again

[glass salmon]

when hosting, what's the ideal server memory? more is better? I can go up to 16GB.

[signal hatch]

Nah 2GB is actually meta

[main kettle]

512 MB per player

[carmine depot]

8gb at most I let it use 1Tb of ram I have 5tb of ram don't ask how I might play on a server

This is a joke btw

[glass salmon]

how do you make sure debug mode is off?

[ionic thorn]

If you haven't explicitly enabled debug with the command line argument then it's off

[glass salmon]

thanks

[ionic thorn]

No problem

[golden kernel]

Does anybody know why when I am the host of a server on b42 there are constant stutters on my side but not on the other players side

[glass salmon]

my character isn't seeing items in boxes/shelves but other player is, any ideas on that?

[glass salmon]

I'm hosting as well, no issues here with shuttering. both players on mac, 8GB of server memory

[golden kernel]

I dont think 8gb of ram would help. There are 2 players on the server and 6gb of ram allocated for the server

[glass salmon]

yea prob not, just trying to compare notes

[golden kernel]

yeah

[glass salmon]

I reloaded the server also bumped the memory to 16, I have extra and stuff is showing now

[vapid birch]

Anybody know how to have a Character's full name appear above their head instead of their displayname? The following settings don't work as they're referring to username NOT displayname:

Display usernames above player's heads in-game.
DisplayUserName=false

Display first & last name above player's heads.
ShowFirstAndLastName=true

Manually setting the displayname corrects the issue but causes other issues due to a mismatch with the username.

[deft cape]

So what is the schedule called? Example: Work on Wednesday through Sunday, but take Monday and Tuesday off?

I thought it's called a rollover shift.

[signal hatch]

It's called working normal shifts and sometimes on saturdays too

[umbral atlas]

Haha get wreckled

[deft cape]

But you still have to take the equal amounts of mandatory time off equal to the total number of weekends in a given month.

[signal hatch]

No, you can also just have it be paid off

[deft cape]

🥹 We don't have that many paid time off.

[signal hatch]

Not paid time off, have it be paid out as cash

[deft cape]

Then that's called overtime.

[signal hatch]

Yes, on saturdays we do overtime

[deft cape]

I was mentioning how a store can hire multiple employees and used normal shifts to cover the weekends via overlapping.

And not relying on overtime.

But yeah, if we do consider overtime, then it's a mixed bag.

Reasonable.

[signal hatch]

Saturdays ARE regular shifts, just that they are counted as overtime

They are normally planned and carried out

[deft cape]

🤔 Damn. I have no concepts of how we do overtimes since stores here don't usually do overtimes.

[eager yoke]

What exactly are the new toys

[umbral atlas]

I found one!! Im not telling lol

[glass salmon]

anyone not getting exp from shows?

[obtuse hornet]

Known bug

[umbral atlas]

Riverside toy sector has them

[obtuse hornet]

too slow Harber

[glass salmon]

thanks

[eager yoke]

The eye? 👁️

[bronze plover]

Only thing about this patch is alll my broken mods

Rip in peace common sense and skill journal

[rocky mulch]

They'll be updated

[desert spear]

So I have a question about the mods. In the launch notes it says disable all mods does that mean we can't play with mods at all until another patch is released or are we just waiting for mod authors to update. TIA sorry if it seems like a stupid question

[umbral atlas]

I wanna eat this

[umbral atlas]

Nopers been lookinh for that

[west vessel]

[umbral atlas]

Haha hell yea aluminimum flavor

[west vessel]

The context matters -- "disable all mods for a smoother MP experience".

Basically, "enjoy all the mods you want, but don't report an MP bug if you're on a modded game".

[ionic thorn]

The thursdoid didn't have that note, tbf (so it was easier to interpret as “mods will not work at all on this build”)

[eager yoke]

Now I wait to see if someone wants to update grapeseed to work with Mp (maybe it does I haven’t tested)

[west vessel]

Yeah, that's fair. "Please disable all mods" sounds definitive in isolation.

[rocky mulch]

How long will this be the case? Surely at some point y'all will need to start considering bug reports in modded multiplayer?

Maybe in a few more builds but still

[west vessel]

tbf, we always ask that people submit bug reports without mods, or at least attempt to reproduce the issue without mods.

I try to not discount modded reports entirely, but it's not uncommon for mods to impact unrelated/unexpected game mechanics.

[rocky mulch]

I'm pretty sure one of the bugs I reported is still unresolved because my bug report had a few unrelated mods in it and the bug is kind of hard to test 💀

[brazen galleon]

In my opinion we should disable modability of the game until later unstable builds to make it less annoying

[signal hatch]

Does sitting down/resting even change the stamina recovery?

[rocky mulch]

That's a terrible idea because it prevents devs from updating their mods for when modding is allowed again. Plus if you tried to do this they would decompile the java and mod it anyways.

[lusty lagoon]

so maintance and nimble aren't giving me any xp

and my character has been alive 9 days with 265 kills

[pastel cipher]

Anybody else noticing an excessive amount of time for exhaustion to pass? I didn't take any stamina effecting perks but this is my first time in a year playing without fast forward

[lusty lagoon]

try resting in a car, that seems to help

[broken brook]

i did notice that the page on steam and the official website noting the disable of ragdolls is a bit different.

[umbral atlas]

Not me

[main kettle]

hello

[signal hatch]

YES, it's extremly annoying

[main kettle]

This is the case with most moodles; you'll also notice it with nausea, and with that moodle that makes you feel hot (I couldn't get rid of that moodle at all).

[pastel cipher]

Glad it's not just me! I was wondering if it was an MP issue or a specifically my dedicated issue

[main kettle]

Well, I'll wait for a hotfix to come out before I play again, but anyway, it's been a lot of fun

[signal hatch]

I honestly think most of the bugs are fine, but the exertion problem is literally making it impossible to do anything

Like, how am I supossed to clear anything when I run out of breath after 5 hits?

[main kettle]

There's a bug that literally makes it impossible to do things; you can't remove items from containers, and sometimes they don't even appear for me, but they do appear for my friend

I'm not reporting this bug because it's probably already been reported

[warm wadi]

Report the bug.

[desert spear]

Understood thank you I was under the impression that mods were not to be used for a moment. Thanks for clarifying

[civic zodiac]

anybody met the issue where every container can be filled 1 litre?

[naive elk]

I have

[ancient stratus]

Visual bug, drop and pick up again.

Had that with gas cans.

[civic zodiac]

thanks

[lunar rock]

Does anyone know why the zombies are insta kill when I shoot while holding alt?

[dull compass]

Even if it's already been reported, getting multiple reports about an issue can help narrow it down and let the devs know how prevalent it is.

[west vessel]

But please search the forum for a few relevant keywords to see if your issue has already been reported.

[main kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/stupid-cat-cat-stare-cat-zoom-cat-tongue-cat-dumb-gif-12034315536794818038

[glass salmon]

are vehicle sounds really low for anyone else?

[earnest saffron]

guys my game initializes and then creates a backup and gets terminated

[umbral atlas]

#1019767076094758924

[signal hatch]

Anyone else have actions either be completed prematurely or just stopped before finishing?

[main kettle]

yeah

[atomic bramble]

an amazing love story ❤️

[light hound]

They finally did it?!

[obtuse hornet]

Also

[atomic bramble]

trueee

you're so epic guys

[light hound]

Truly there should be one block game collab

That came out weird, don't listen to me

[umbral atlas]

Can we spawn big boss

[light hound]

No, I did not have that program running, dead ass this just happened at the same time as pz closed

[worldly lily]

Honestly for mp everything has been really smooth and awesome besides a few visual errors

Like my axe randomly turning dull, causing me to have to drop it and reequip it

And other players having like 500 weapons on their back

[umbral atlas]

Lol 500?

Are you having fun?

[worldly lily]

Yeah my friend had a metal rod, wood axe and fire axe on his back

Despite only having an axe

[worldly lily]

Yeah! Rocked out 5 hours with my buddies, it was awesome

[umbral atlas]

Yay, thats awesome sounds like a blast

[umbral atlas]

😆

[main kettle]

this is real?

[atomic bramble]

super real

also Sully cross reference is real

[main kettle]

huh

[abstract mortar]

I waited 10 years to write that

[rocky mulch]

🤌

[atomic bramble]

😈

[naive elk]

Real and was added in like 2012 😅

Oh earlier, was added Sept 11th 2011

[west vessel]

Just wait 'til you see the Zomboid references in GTA6

[umbral atlas]

wait whart

[full basin]

You'l figure it out

[abstract mortar]

We fired 31 workers as a reference

[umbral atlas]

[mighty pebble]

Is it intended that there are recipe books for some of the different forges, but that you can automatically make all the blacksmithint buildings by default?

[mighty pebble]

It’s been like that so long without being changed. Maybe it’s just so people can test the devices in unstable?

[topaz cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-happy-laughing-crying-i-cant-even-gif-24163733

[main kettle]

hello

[mighty badger]

do i need to find a setting for time acceleration while sleeping in MP? or just another bug?

[round isle]

Nice to see multiplayer is back and also great that bugs get fixed on a regular basis. Keep up the good work...and folks! Don't fed the Zeds!

[naive elk]

[vestal bronze]

so I have 20000 mods running and my game crashed.. i should probably make a bug report right..?

[naive elk]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

[royal widget]

Dont forget to shit on the game and call devs lazy, and how some other game fixes bugs at least 10x fast

On reddit, obviously as any like to your post is self validation you needed

[broken current]

does my multiplayer game from B41 get transferred to B42?

[light copper]

It doesn't work if you're sleeping in a vehicle, it's worked as intended otherwise

[stoic turret]

No, you cannot take b41 saves over to b42. Too much has changed in the game code.

[broken current]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

will we have to reset our saves after every build?

[stoic turret]

It is recommended to do that.

[broken current]

wdym

[stoic turret]

Each update they add for b42 it is recommended you start a new save. Backup your saves just in case.

[broken current]

Bruh but what about all the progress

[royal widget]

lost, the game is not fully released, and playing unstable means progress is lost even more often than when playing in a stable branch in an evolving game

[lusty lagoon]

With how buggy it is currently I'm holding off on being invested

Just having some good old multilayer fun instead

I'm normally too lazy to bug report, but I'm starting to think I should do so

[mighty badger]

ah that explains it, thanks!

[obtuse hornet]

The unstable branch is an early access beta designed for bug testing, not long play through. If you are after a long play through you should be playing on the main, stable, default branch, Build 41

[broken current]

would my save go onto 42 atleast that way?

[royal widget]

your b41 save is lost if you want to play B42

you cannot convert it.

[lusty lagoon]

Don't tell us what to do, you're not our mom

[obtuse hornet]

But I am

[royal widget]

Once B42 becomes the stable branch, any B41 saves will be useless, too. If you update, that is.

[polar chasm]

early progression is the most fun part imo

[lusty lagoon]

Well I better give you present list for Christmas then

EVERYONE DID YOU HEAR THAT!? Sully is our mom and has to buy everyone presents

[hexed cedar]

I guess some People love Vanilla MP over Modded MP due its take long tume on downloading mods

[obtuse hornet]

Sorry, but I don't celebrate Christmas, so you get nothing

[royal widget]

A heretic saved our Christmas

[desert echo]

We play with friend coop, on new MP unstable build, server crashed after death of the host, and he cant start server again and create new character. Anyone have this problem?
I new that this is unstable, just asking
We were using steam

[lusty lagoon]

!bugreport

[kind bluff]

Your report on Discord might end up being lost to the void. Please report bugs on our forums or Steam:

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/forum/85-bug-reports/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/6/

Please be sure to follow our Bug Reporting Guide to ensure the team receive all necessary information to investigate your issue. https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/43261-bug-reporting-guide-updated-05082025/

[lusty lagoon]

If you still have the logs AND WERE NOT using mods, you should report that

[kind falcon]

Is there any reason why capacity is STILL hardcoded to 50 in B42? I would love to know because it's killing me

[lusty lagoon]

This is the story of how you died, not became a wandering trader with 50+kg worth of stuff on you at all times

I used to work in a roofing supply yard, and believe me, unless you really stupid muscly and strong, 20KG is about as high as you can go before carrying enivetably becomes uncomfortable to some degree

[summer prawn]

IS Indie stone working on hotfixing as many bugs as possible at the moment?

[lusty lagoon]

They are monitoring for now, no explicit plans for hotfixes, unless that's changed since yesterday

[summer prawn]

❤️

[lusty lagoon]

When NPC's get added, Sully should be added as an Easter egg, and whenever you ask him to do something he should only respond with "Just keep your expectations low"

Or Nasko, when he attacks you, it only hurts your feet

[royal widget]

Guns Unlimited has no good loot. Just be patient.

Guns Unlimited in fact has million guns.

Underpromised, overdelivered.

as long as low expectations is not "there's only few zeds"

[signal hatch]

I guess, who knows

Anyone else have zeds just wander back to their original destination? I wanted to lure a few away from my corpse but the moment I lose them they just walk back to my corpse lmfao

[woven wharf]

another bug found. entering a doorway to a basement thats inside a house triggered the house alarm. anyone else experienced this?

[balmy jetty]

This is the first time I've seen developers so active.

This is a really nice thing.

[lusty lagoon]

Sully is usually pretty active, even when he's supposed to be on holiday

[signal hatch]

So, is MP the only buggy thing about the update or is SP equally buggy?

[light hound]

Has anyone... Tried singleplayer? Lol

Besides the obvious old saves are definitely over now, I wonder how it's going as well

I've only been hearing about mp bugs

[real ember]

UE5 with frame gen and global illumination and nanite

[real ember]

SP does not have most of the bugs MP does. It also recieved a huge amount of bug fixes and QOL on top of MP release

[signal hatch]

Ah great, so I don't need to switch to legacy for it at least

[real ember]

TIS don't handle MP. Thats Vertex break, different studio. But im sure they're working hard on all the bugs ASAP

[real ember]

To be fair, 50 encumbrance is not 50Kg. But your point still stands.

[royal widget]

make SP playable by married players too, it's kind of discriminating

[real ember]

SP should be pretty stable at this point

[real ember]

I don't have that power unfortunately. All i can do is write "Married players aren't allowed to play PZ" on the wiki

[royal widget]

You have the power of alter future generation knowledge of ancient fun games

[obtuse hornet]

split screen co-op exists

[royal widget]

reminds me too much of divorce :/

[obtuse hornet]

sounds like more time for gaming

[real ember]

Apparently we can't play split screen. Too married

[royal widget]

Reddit news at 11, TIS member endorses divorce and unhealthy gaming addiction

[obtuse hornet]

And how

[royal widget]

don't have enough reddit account gold memberships over a decade to answer that question

the logic is out there -X files theme song-

[lusty lagoon]

Nucleus Co-op allows for a co-op experience that can also provide seperate audio

unfortunately it doesn't support using your steam accounts so its just Lan

also you guys broke CDDA again, now i don't start with the sniffles

[real ember]

!bugreport

[kind bluff]

Your report on Discord might end up being lost to the void. Please report bugs on our forums or Steam:

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/forum/85-bug-reports/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/6/

Please be sure to follow our Bug Reporting Guide to ensure the team receive all necessary information to investigate your issue. https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/43261-bug-reporting-guide-updated-05082025/

[lusty lagoon]

But i don't wanna do my homework!

[blissful marsh]

any OP character builds? hit me up guys

[balmy jetty]

+1

[obtuse hornet]

OP as OP gets

[twilit mural]

i will still get smoker trait (you cannot stop me, i will suffer through depression and anxiety)

[broken current]

chat which is the most recent build?

like 42 with multiplayer

[royal widget]

unstable - UNSTABLE - BACKUP FIRST

the one above it is "pre-MP"

I would dare to bet money on the caps lock option always being the most recent unstable branch

[broken current]

alr thanks

is it called unstable just for the name or is it actually unstable?

[royal widget]

whole build 42 is unstable because we have not gotten stable version of it

which means every patch can break your game, don't get attached to your saves

[broken current]

oh thats why they recommend us getting new saves

[royal widget]

only way to keep playing a B42 save for long is to not update it

[lusty lagoon]

What Sully delivers when he says have low expectations

[obtuse hornet]

The reason you feel that way is because I've successfully kept your expectations low 😉

[glass salmon]

Any ideas why a van attached to an animal trailer can’t move faster than first gear?

It was one of those commercial vans not a “hey kids free candy” vans

[analog blaze]

How can I faster recover from exertion?

[glass salmon]

I had to lock cruise control to 15mph or it would hit 2nd gear and it would slowly decrease in speed

[ancient carbon]

rest

[glass salmon]

Both resting and sitting on ground takes about 20 years

[analog blaze]

It's still slow as fuck, I have the slow metabolism trait so I have 4 of physical shape, may it be related to that?

[analog blaze]

So is there a faster way?

[ancient carbon]

rest on a chair

[analog blaze]

Yeah I do that

[glass salmon]

I just let the zombies eat me, it faster to make a new character

[analog blaze]

And in the bed, when I sleep it seems to go a little bit faster

[analog blaze]

Is there any way to tweak it?

[glass salmon]

Use shout and more zombies will show up

I’m trolling, idk

[analog blaze]

Ik HAHAJAJA

[obtuse hornet]

Is this what you're looking for?

[analog blaze]

It may be

Thanks a lot dude

[royal widget]

Sully is a dude indeed

You may know him from movies such as "Dude, where's my MP"

[glass salmon]

Is there a performance requirement for pulling trailers maybe?

[royal widget]

If you don't have sunday driver, you might be good for most vehicles...and if you use the neat trick of using specific gears to pull things in a stable manner, should be even better

[tired lodge]

I'm kind of impressed how quickly some modders update their mods

[ancient carbon]

irc , towing is tied to horsepower. so sports cars are best for towing. dont think its been changed yet.

[summer prawn]

Is that tuff in the cheating community?🥶

[obtuse hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

no such thing as cheating when you play single player

god damn it discord, I wanted to pair them in the same message

[hidden rapids]

Fill the trailers tires with air

[broken current]

what do i put here?

[royal widget]

Your....username?

[broken current]

yh but do i make one up or is it steam infomation

[blissful marsh]

make one up

it can differ on different servers

its just so u can play your character and to save your loot to your character

[broken current]

across servers?

[blissful marsh]

no.. one server.. same like minecraft login i guess

[neat birch]

Oh is this why I can’t sharpen a “dull knife” bc it’s not actually dull?

[worldly lily]

Nope! just drop it and pick it up again

[whole crane]

Wiiiiiiiiii

[deft cape]

Nintendo Wii hasn't been relevant since 2013.

[pastel cipher]

Nintendo Wii and its effects on the gaming industry are technically still being felt to this day

[signal hatch]

Nah they actually just call it unstable because it's funny similar how tide pods have warnings just so you don't get addicted to eating them

Tide pods are actually the best tasting food out there, they just don't want you to know!!!!

[broken current]

why are you eating them?

[signal hatch]

Because I have looked behind their facade of lies and the taste is truly captivating

You should try yourself, don't let these companies tell you what to do!!!!!!!

[royal widget]

A boss in FFXIV has a tank buster, heavy hitting ability that is called Tide Pod. It hits you hard. Lethally, even, if not prepared...

[worldly lily]

For some reason my soap has infinite uses

[left sierra]

can we expect a hotfix for the bigger bugs? such as TV shows not giving XP ?
my group is eager for b42 but it has its limits

[faint gulch]

I think there will be a hotfix on Monday or Tuesday

[royal widget]

and this opinion is based on

[umbral atlas]

different games

[royal widget]

I'm gonna throw a wild guess: a MP mod is literally "enable MP=true" while B42 mp patch, 42.13 is introducing a shit tons of new code, changes, fixes...and can and probably will cause more bugs to happen, MP and SP alike.

B42 is an unstable branch, it's not even intended to be the release quality multiplayer, just the first iteration

[west vessel]

#1448601677874729024 message

[umbral atlas]

all things considering ; that it is unstable it is still pretty decent for a mp reintroduction i think

[earnest saffron]

it would be cool if someone made a flowers mod

[steep sundial]

yeah go play death legion's game i guess 🤷‍♂️ tell them to make a zombie game

[earnest saffron]

and we could grow flowers and make flower pots

[kind herald]

The zombie performance compared to B41 is unmatched

Knocked it out the park

[umbral atlas]

for mp ?

[steep sundial]

the fact i played 40-50fps on b41 multiplayer and i can hit 60fps now, the optimization is great

😭 when i max zoomed out i had 20fps

i love b42 sm

[umbral atlas]

i drove with someone and i was on a server with 150 ping and no issues it was nice, in 41 normally would desync and do weird stuff lol

[raw gorge]

do mods work now in b42 mp?

[glass salmon]

There isn’t an option for it

There seems to be a backpack bug as well, dropping it doesn’t remove from inventory

[royal widget]

they can work, if they're updated, but not recommended

[hidden rapids]

wdym? no option to inflate with a tire pump?

[glass salmon]

Correct

[hidden rapids]

idk then, i've never had that issue, sorry 🙁

[glass salmon]

WARNING do not put a turkey in the house, breaks the game

[umbral atlas]

mp or sp?

[glass salmon]

mp

[spark sluice]

Anyone know if theyre bringing back the Loadingscreen art?

[stoic turret]

Probably not the same art as before, there was too much controversy around it. My guess is they will make new art at some point but probably not a high priority. Someone did make a mod to bring the previous art back, but no idea if it’s still around tho.

Personally I think they should use the 3D renders like in the fliers

[ebon leaf]

Has anyone else noticed this?

I think they need to create a game lobby, actually, they need to separate co-op games with friends on the server, because when I create a server, I have to enter the game and wait for all my friends to enter too, and in that time my character has no hunger, thirst, tiredness, or sleepiness. I wish there was like a waiting lobby, so when I pressed play, everyone would enter at the same time, because as the host, I always have to wait for the others to arrive and it ends up desynchronizing our sleep, etc.

[summer prawn]

🤣 👍

[royal widget]

yeah it takes a bit to invite each friend when hosting a MP game myself, and they'll spend time in creating a character and so on

as much as I hate lacking sleep in MP (the worst debuff in the game, making it easier), last thing I wanna hear is people bugging me to go to sleep so time flows faster

[ebon leaf]

But it's not just the lack of sleep that's a problem; sometimes I spend an hour playing because people are trying to log in, and I have to keep the game open waiting for each person to join, which ends up wasting time and causing a lot of problems.

[ember jetty]

the fact that build 42 multiplayer took less time than build 41.

[royal widget]

Now onwards to wait for remaining features of the build 42. Too agonizing to think how long that'll be

[earnest saffron]

My exhaustion goes away really quickly when in a car

No mods on mp

[naive elk]

Any black walls of doom yet?

[low wagon]

Is it up to modders to compatibilize their mods or are they completely blocked from the newest build of the game?

[naive elk]

They have to make them compatible

There are already mods for 42.13

Just not the ones I want lol 😆

[umbral atlas]

just what i expected with 150 ping but nothing like when playing in b41 with 1mbps interweb lol

[naive elk]

❤️

That is awesome 😎

[low wagon]

I mean something to stop the whole of Kentucky's tobacco supply being replaced with sugar would be good

I'll down a pack and still be bouncing off the walls with anxiety

[naive elk]

Mmm sugar

[low wagon]

Is there a filter for 42.13 mods only?

[naive elk]

Not that I know of, just been sorting by last updated or latest releases

[loud pond]

Smoker should be a gainable/loseable perk just like those that are weight and physical condition related

I'll die on that hill

[humble gust]

wait
is sleep in MP a thing now

[naive elk]

you can enable it

sleep with friends has not been updated yet though

[split mist]

Did they remove the exhaustion moodle filling up when you’re resting? Like the icon literally filling based on how tired you are or was that a mod I had?

[copper barn]

patch in 30 minutes

[naive elk]

known issue, it is borked atm

we are getting closer to our old peak!

[umbral atlas]

yay!

[ember jetty]

very nice

imagine build 43 when we finally get to see some human NPC

[naive elk]

gotta get to b42 stable peak first then we shall see what numbers we are working with 😉

[spark sluice]

I thought we wont get humans till B44?

[ember jetty]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Upcoming_versions according to the wiki it build 43 says NPC are coming

[supple kindle]

I don't know why am so happy, I don't even have a PC nor play it before 😭🙏

[spark sluice]

Oh damn, I thought B43 was just gonna be maybe more animals or Performance improvements. Nice

[ember jetty]

its good that animals are the first form of NPC

[balmy jetty]

It makes me deeply sad that these updates will be released after 30 years.

maybe my grandchildren will play

[umbral atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/thearistocats-disney-disneymovie-mariearistocats-eyeroll-gif-25975356

[ember jetty]

would be nice to have hostile wildlife so that being in the woods shouldnt be the safest option.

getting mauled by a bear while foraging the woods.

[umbral atlas]

and losing a 1 month long char

[ember jetty]

imagine starting off on day one of the zombie outbreak and seeing all those NPC fighting and looting.

[tired lodge]

I just hope we don't get too much kill on sight stuff

That's kinda my biggest gripe about bandits just not fun

[deft cape]

With multiplayer, how many players do we need in order to butcher / get rid of chickens in a overly successful chicken farm?

Chicken spawns too fast for a single player to fix.

We're talking about 324 chickens in a 21x10 area.

[civic zodiac]

anyone playing mp with sleep on? something keeps waking us up

[civic zodiac]

hatch time is set to 'really fast' by standard

[digital needle]

Yo me and my buddy have this issue were times doesent go as fast as it used to when we are both sleeping

[dry wolf]

yo guys are you have problem with life and living in this b?

[naive elk]

known issue

[dry wolf]

fix that shi

[lusty lagoon]

your facetiousness is in poor taste

[civic zodiac]

yeah, sleeping in cars does that

[meager widget]

why did they disable walls cutting off when hovering over a building? it was actually really nice

[jagged radish]

hey im lookin to add sum mods anyone knows of some cool ones that work im mp b42 i saw that vanilla gear expanded got updated has anyone tried it and if ye does it work on existing saves?

[dry wolf]

u cant add mods rn

they need to update it and fix whole mpxd

[jagged radish]

some mods say they work for b42.13 tho

[meager widget]

this is cool

[naive elk]

That is excellent 😍

[civic zodiac]

did cooking pots get nerfed

1.5l seem seems so tiny

[light hound]

How long has this container not had a roof... ?

[west vessel]

Looks to have been the case since at least 42.3 -- noted for the mapping team 🍻

[deft cape]

That is considered cheating.

[light hound]

That's a long time! I wonder if there are others...

Also, another screenshot of the unstableness just for funs lol

[umbral atlas]

the void to the spiffoverse

[sly hornet]

I notice well flashlight other players can't see that you have it on

[frank adder]

You cant put some things inside military backpack at least i cant, no matter what i do

[marsh needle]

its a weird desync bug on mp, happens to me on different items as well

I have to always rejoin for it to fix itself

[frank adder]

For me even when i rejoin this doesnt go away

[marsh needle]

That sucks I see people on the forums are already reporting bugs about these issues so hopefully it'll get fixed soon

[frank adder]

Oh ye i forgot when i try to use my allready created character it crashes my game xd

[real ember]

That's where they were hiding mp

It's broken free now hence the hole

[ionic thorn]

Typical dev spin to say it was "released" instead of "it escaped"

[left forum]

it would be cool to be able to use insects as ingredients and cooking skill could help your character in making such meals more palatable

[signal hatch]

NO, I want him to suffer

[void nimbus]

looks like they shouldnt have released MP

[lusty lagoon]

interesting, do you have a sound theory that delves into the technicalities as to why?

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-sonic-exe-gif-12890623297943149339

[void nimbus]

@lusty lagoon lots of broken things

items staying in your inventory even after you drop them

stuck in a state of forever being exerted

the transfer all function works sometimes and it doesnt

[obtuse hornet]

Yeah, bugs are expected on this branch. The point of releasing MP to Unstable was so the community could help us efficiently find and quash them.

[signal hatch]

Squash all the bugs

[obtuse hornet]

🔨

[gritty drum]

is there roadmap for this update

[obtuse hornet]

By roadmap do you mean patch notes?

[hollow comet]

hotfix when

[shut cape]

++

[lusty lagoon]

jee that sure wasn't very technical.
it's a stress test, i imagine that this cuts down on the development time by involving the community in the testing process, creating a broader range of systems to test on and way more variables and scenarios than they can do internally

god forbid the unstable branch feels unstable lol

[obtuse hornet]

There should be one this coming week.

[lusty lagoon]

unless you're me, hindering the process because you're too lazy to do bug reports, i'm sorry TIS

[hollow comet]

🙏

[lusty lagoon]

any scoop of anything we should expect?

[obtuse hornet]

A number of people were having issues with stuttering in MP. That's the main highlight.

[lusty lagoon]

suppose i had a few alright, wasn't too often, only just enough to say often i guess

have you managed to figure out why XP is behaving so weirdly?

[obtuse hornet]

I think it's an issue with the multipliers adding up across all players, and being applied.

[lusty lagoon]

i still laugh watching my strength XP increase while i sit on my ass in a car lol

me and my friends noticed the Nimble XP just straight isn't being applied to any of us

[light hound]

I'm not so sure that was the cause because you can load up a fresh server with a singular fresh player and it will still get the same multipliers

[lusty lagoon]

and i've not seen the panic moodle once either

[light hound]

I'd love to see foraging fixed

[lusty lagoon]

my friend say's he can get like 4 levels in foraging in 1 item or something like that

[light hound]

Foraging is already one of the fastest skills to level, so this bug is kinda multiplying the issue, literally

Also, you can't forage in some areas

[obtuse hornet]

ahhh looks like multiple different issues for skills. some are confirmed fixed, some have potential fixes in test

[light hound]

Not surprised there are multiple with all the trait changes coming at the same time as MP lol

[lusty lagoon]

also is motion sensitive meant to be a lethal trait?

my friend got to terminal damage from my driving from the fever it gave him and we were in stiches

[obtuse hornet]

I'm genuinely not sure... I suspect there will be changes to it. I think it was more of a "oh this will be fun and we already have mechanics to make it work"... but then those mechanics have lethal damage lol.

[lusty lagoon]

we were genuinely pissing ourselves

[obtuse hornet]

dehydration is a silent killer

[lusty lagoon]

we assumed he was infected and killed him off, only for him to not turn into a zombie

https://tenor.com/view/funny-hahaha-gif-22505124

[light hound]

Getting sick in the PZ universe can kill you very easily I suppose lol

Just drop some lore explanation, suddenly a bug is a feature

[upbeat tide]

Well it sure can IRL without modern medicine too

[light hound]

Getting car sick without medicine won't kill you lol

[upbeat tide]

Oooooh car sick? lol

[light hound]

Infact, most sicknesses do not need medicine

[upbeat tide]

Counterpoint, dying of carsickness is funny

[light hound]

Exactly, and if everyone knows about it, it just becomes a nerf for the trait that is known and not unexpected

I think the trait should be worth more if it stays like this though

[sacred bridge]

i just listen to VHS 07 [COOKING], give me zero cooking exp, only boredom and happiness, is this intended?

nimble exp not working, welding exp not working

any others not working?

[royal widget]

You do not get exp from VHS if:

• You already watched them once
• Sandbox settings prevent you getting exp from it after level 3, should give exp if below level 3

but if it isn't working at all, in modless game, looks like a bug

[pine merlin]

hey Sully, do we think the hotfix'll wipe servers?

[sacred bridge]

i'm lvling maintenance, but not nimble

[hidden rapids]

It’s a known bug

[kind herald]

If there is a solution to the Foraging zones, I suspect it will involve servers wiping to restore the lost zones (or reseting the chunk data for the areas in question)

[pine merlin]

what's wrong with foraging?

[glass salmon]

Fwiw on mac, B42 MP has been smoother vs 41

[sacred bridge]

i've noticed some foraging zones are not mapped, always empty foraging results. Also, foraging is utterly broken overpowered. you dont need books and exp goes ultra fast

[glass salmon]

I noticed the foraging xp gains as well

[ionic thorn]

Rule of cool Rule of funny

[glass salmon]

Anyone having issues moving animals once out of the trailer? Mp

[worldly lily]

Yes, i've noted a bug where it gives me the over encumbered effect despite the animal not going into my inventory.

[oblique oar]

Anyone able to cook anything in MP? Ovens doesnt work at all, doesnt cook uncooked foods, doesnt even get the bar which says ”cooking”. All remains as uncooked

[hollow edge]

Does somebody know why I have sleep allowed in my coop world but the time does not go fast when sleeping? I have never seen this before

[light copper]

are you sleeping in a car?

[hollow edge]

yes

[light copper]

sleeping in a car doesn't speed up time, sleeping anywhere else does though

I am pretty sure it is a bug

[hollow edge]

oh really? damn did not know that. Thanks dude I will try

[obtuse hornet]

confirmed bug, team is aware

[green field]

how can I check which mods have been updated for the new build? (steam workshop)

[humble gust]

imo foraging should have a natural 1x multiplier to xp that is attached to your grids, so the more you forage in one zone, the lower the multiplier starts going, and then starts gradually refilling over time

[naive elk]

❤️

[ember jetty]

numbers are getting closer to the all time peak

[naive elk]

and that is even before it launching into stable

such a pain getting a whole crew onto unstable so it is nice to see the big numbers

[umbral atlas]

yay

[sly trail]

will i die from sickness obtained from car sick

[umbral atlas]

i think people have said if you go near corpses you can die from corpse sickness pretty easily

[sly trail]

car. sick.

[umbral atlas]

yeah , it makes it worse or something

the fever from motion sickness *

[lusty lagoon]

smell isn't actually working right now

and max smell is what now causes the sickness

[eager yoke]

Any foraging zone fixes? What happened there.

[obtuse hornet]

Known issue, being investigated/worked on

[pine merlin]

anyone else been struggling with server crashes on vanilla b42 mp dedicated?

[ebon leaf]

Has anyone else noticed this?

I think they need to create a game lobby, actually, they need to separate co-op games with friends on the server, because when I create a server, I have to enter the game and wait for all my friends to enter too, and in that time my character has no hunger, thirst, tiredness, or sleepiness. I wish there was like a waiting lobby, so when I pressed play, everyone would enter at the same time, because as the host, I always have to wait for the others to arrive and it ends up desynchronizing our sleep, etc.

[sharp vortex]

do you have mods enabled?

[pine merlin]

no

[sharp vortex]

i haven't had any issues but it could be a unknown bug

how much ram are you putting towards the server?

[gleaming parrot]

Are barbell curls supposed to give me crippling stamina loss after 2 reps?

Or does it improve with regularity

[light hound]

What did you do

What small update was sent out thinking it would be ok

I can't split screen anymore after my game did a small update lol

I've verified and started many times over, and every time the game crashes with nothing in the logs

[west vessel]

Unless there's an entry in #patchnotes or #1019996461095735456 , PZ wasn't updated.

Most likely a mod was updated.

[light hound]

Nothing is enabled though? I never even turned off my computer, I just exited game, re-enter game, and now it's impossible

Maybe I triggered a bug that won't go away unless I reinstall... but my internet is ass currently so that's pretty much last resort

Last mod update was nearly 4 hours ago, it wasn't from a mod lol

[umbral atlas]

If you clikc properties on project zomboid go to updates and look at the bottom you can see the installed content and when it was last updated

[brazen galleon]

playing on servers is torture
I've played on 5 so far and none of them had any zombies, any loot, any cars or anything to do honestly

[light hound]

Yeah, and it was from almost 4 hours ago, like I said. And it was Starlit Library, I trust that it didn't break anything while disabled lol

It's probably some obscure bug and I need to reinstall, I've been spamming split screen and closing game for the past few hours now

Really stress testing the game rn

Actually, I'll restart my laptop first

UPDATE: restarting my computer fixed it. Why? Who tf knows, it's working again, that's what matters lol

[umbral atlas]

yay!

[light hound]

I do secretly just wanna know how something like that happens, I closed the game normally and everything, but on the next load up it stopped :(

I'm curious

[umbral atlas]

@lament ice Here you go

[analog blaze]

Is there any way to plant avocados or get apples?

[hidden rapids]

not sure about avocado's but you can forage apples

[analog blaze]

and what about pears, oranges...

[hidden rapids]

i would assume they can be foraged unless specified otherwise tbh, there's a loooot of fruit and veg you can find, especially in farmland

[analog blaze]

ok then, i was sad thinking i couldnt get apples again

[hidden rapids]

i'm about to make a new char and go on a foraging spree just to see lol

[umbral atlas]

i wonder if we will get like orchards or anything, i know planting a fruit tree takes forever before fruiting but would be cool for already established fruiters

[hidden rapids]

that would be sooo cool

[analog blaze]

i find it strange that they didnt impplement orchards already

but i guess there surely will be mods for that, there even was 1 in b41

[umbral atlas]

ya i wanna make apple pie snack

[analog blaze]

yep

btw, what animals are there planned to add?

i swear dogs were proposed at one point

[umbral atlas]

i think dogs, they havent really gone into detail other than saying we will get mores

[analog blaze]

i want to see a bear

also i find it strange that there is not a single mod adding animals

[willow moth]

TIS can we have boars, please.

[hidden rapids]

there are some being made right now lol

[analog blaze]

BOARS WOULD BE SO COOOOL

[willow moth]

fr

[analog blaze]

you're kidding

[willow moth]

deers are overrated

[analog blaze]

where

[hidden rapids]

https://discordapp.com/channels/136501320340209664/1366841696796672031/1366841696796672031
https://discordapp.com/channels/136501320340209664/1431399502299791474/1431399502299791474

[analog blaze]

man i cant wait for this update to finish

also, i think i heard things about greenhouses, do they exist already?

can you build them?

[analog blaze]

anything bout wild game?

[hidden rapids]

not sure, those are the only two I know of. But I can't imagine more animals won't be modded in, especially once we get stable

[analog blaze]

yeah that was my main hypothesis

people werent bothering with modding animals until we get to stable

[umbral atlas]

there are greenhouses but i am not sure if they work like that

[analog blaze]

i think i recall seing osmething requiring a greenhouse or an indication the they work indeed

[hidden rapids]

selection of fruit and veg from farmlands at 4-9 foraging skill

they're all surprisingly small though..

[analog blaze]

Finding an avocado in the wild in FUCKING KENTUCKY is hilarious by the way

[analog blaze]

Does it say its size? Are there any exceptions?

[hidden rapids]

by size I just mean their hunger value. Almost all are under -10, most are below -5

[analog blaze]

Damn, that's shit

Maybe at higher levels they'll be bigger?

[hidden rapids]

it's been consistant levels 4 through 9, but we'll see I guess

[analog blaze]

Well at least you can still find them

Something is something I guess

[hidden rapids]

lol for sure, the really tiny ones would make good compost

[hidden rapids]

New stuff found level 9-10 in farmland and organic forest

[analog blaze]

Bigger or still small?

Also thanks for trying it out lol

[hidden rapids]

maybe a little bit bigger? Still no b41 foraging 😔

[hidden rapids]

lol np, I loooooveeee foraging. it's like gambling XD

[analog blaze]

Was it nerfed?

[analog blaze]

Hahahaha yeah and it upgrades fast

Any tip for the foraging?

[hidden rapids]

if i'm remembering right (it's been a long while since i played b41) you could get like, -30+ cabbages and fruits, it was amazing

[analog blaze]

In variety or in quantity

Can't you tweak it in the world custom?

[hidden rapids]

idk not really, just walk outside and forage XD being tired and stressed decreases the range that you forage at. And that's in hunger, -30 hunger cabbages. Now i'm lucky to see -15

lucky to see over -10 🙁

[analog blaze]

-30 is a fucking lot what a bestiality

[hidden rapids]

I knoooowwwwww it was so great XD

[analog blaze]

I find it strange there's not a mod that tweaks it

I get it being a little bit more nerfed than the fruits at the mall because well, they were full of chemicals and shit to boost them, but still it is too much I think

[hidden rapids]

yea a lot of the fruit would almost be wasted in a fruit salad they're so small. Might as well compost imo

[analog blaze]

And passing over the same zone it's something to avoid or not? Also what are the best grounds at foraging?

[analog blaze]

At least you can still make banana bread I guess

HEY YOU ARE IN THE VINTAGE STORY SERVER TOO!!

[hidden rapids]

I don't know what passing the same ground is like with the newest changes, out of habit I just try not too. And I think farmlands are the best XD lots of fruit and crops

[hidden rapids]

lolol yep, another one of my favorites

[analog blaze]

Then farmlands will be

Forests are also fine no?

[analog blaze]

I'm sooo fucking excited with both these games

The 1.22 update will be BIG and when the 42 is finished it won't be big, it will be giganormous

[hidden rapids]

Yea, forests are good.

I just forage on roads when I need flint and urban when I want misc stuff

[analog blaze]

Car keys ?

[static widget]

why tf do 20 zombies spawn in a 3x3 room

i just died and lost everything to a storage shed having like 15-20 as soon as I opened the door

[hidden rapids]

You can find car keys with foraging but I don’t think it makes new ones spawn

[willow moth]

not new ones, you can only find already spawned ones more easily.

[analog blaze]

But I can find the key for every vehicle or r just some yes some not

[hidden rapids]

Just some

[analog blaze]

🫠

And I guess the level influences a lot on the chance of finding them, no?

[willow moth]

car keys? no, foraging just highlights them (at all skill levels).

like it does any other dropped item.

[hidden rapids]

No. Some car keys have a chance- yea what inferno said

Foraging doesn’t make them spawn, it just reveals one’s already there

[analog blaze]

Oh, I'm sad then

So if I look to the ground inventory y should still find them even when not foraging?

[hidden rapids]

Yep

[willow moth]

both methods work effectively, yes.

[static widget]

anyone know where in the files hosted savefiles show up

so I can see if it actually killed me or not

[deft cape]

Is it true when the hip editor, Atom, came into the scene after the first build release of Project Zomboid, some of the devs at the time tried out Atom, which cascaded into an alternate reality of our dimensions which we arrived at when the PC RAM prices are expensive all because Atom requires 8 GB of RAM?

Did devs opened up a time portal we never knew thanks to the Knox events?

[rocky mulch]

hasn't atom been dead since like the pandemic?

[ionic thorn]

In 2014 it was hip

I recall having a brief Atom phase

[twilit mural]

pz survivor vomitting when?

[obtuse hornet]

Preferably never

[hidden rapids]

let us vomit to get rid of food poisoning 🙁

[solemn fjord]

Heck yes thatd be nice

[umbral atlas]

lol

[solemn fjord]

It makes sense though
To provide temporary relief to food poisoning or corpse sickness

And would make for more trait uses too and character management

Oh noo you puked now you are really hungry again
Maybe sad too or in pain and so on

[harsh nimbus]

Discomfort

[solemn fjord]

That, yeah

AAND would allow us to have to wash our teeth to get rid of it

Toothbrush and toothpaste timeee!

[harsh nimbus]

Also to nerf weak stomach‼️

[vernal lake]

Why is it so difficult to optimize an isometric game for a stable FPS in 2025? Yes, the FPS has increased, but due to serious drops, it drops from 244 to 150, and even below 100 in heavily loaded areas. This FPS drop makes the game choppy and uncomfortable to play. We've been waiting for years and still get the same thing as the previous build... As someone who has played 8k+ hours of this game, I am very disappointed with the new update 👎

[signal hatch]

Try setting the max fps to 100 and see if that helps

[signal hatch]

Ngl that would be hilarious

Also add diarrhea so we can be extra sick

[peak kindle]

Is there a way to report bugs in MP? There are ton and some are really annoying like apparently zombies can open doors now? 😅

[signal hatch]

!bugreport

[kind bluff]

Your report on Discord might end up being lost to the void. Please report bugs on our forums or Steam:

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/forum/85-bug-reports/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/6/

Please be sure to follow our Bug Reporting Guide to ensure the team receive all necessary information to investigate your issue. https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/43261-bug-reporting-guide-updated-05082025/

[peak kindle]

Thank you! 💖

[vernal lake]

This doesn't help, because in areas with a high zombie concentration, the frame rate drops significantly, dropping below 100. Are you suggesting limiting it even further? Then what's the point of optimization? The point of optimization is a stable frame rate, but right now the FPS fluctuates, causing severe stuttering and screen tearing. It's scary to imagine what will happen when modded servers arrive...

[lusty lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/usduc-usdc-unstable-unstable-coin-gif-2420285730721807043

[signal hatch]

Tbf he did say, it existed for years

[signal hatch]

You sure it's not a hardware issue? Large amount of zonbies in this game is no joke for the hardware

[vernal lake]

Dude! I've played many previous builds, and the upgrade to the stable version has never been accompanied by any FPS or optimization changes

[vernal lake]

Yes, I'm sure. I have up-to-date equipment.

[lusty lagoon]

if you have 8k hours, i'd say you got way more than your money's worth, you're just venting dude, your pushy entitlement isn't of any help or encouragement to anyone

[signal hatch]

Well then, idk. I never really had performance issues, tbf tho I don't survive very long😂

[lusty lagoon]

they are more prominent in high pop settings

CDDA particularly is quite bad in dense urban zones

[vernal lake]

Oh, right?) So, if you're a fan, you should just shut up?) Got it

[signal hatch]

Stop white knighting bro😂

Saying the performance is bad is valid criticism lol. It has nothing to do with getting your money worth or not

[lusty lagoon]

FPS is perfectly fine outside of stupidly high pop settings, we were delivered a much better performance at max zoom settings compared to previous builds, 60fps at 250% zoom is fantastic, splitscreen performs way better as a result

if your games lagging that crazy, it's probably on your end lol

[peak kindle]

Might be the player number too maybe? I played with 2 other people, it was fine. It did lag very very rarely. So more people probably causing more lag

[vernal lake]

Friend, modern AAA games run stably in 4K with high FPS. I don't think I have a hardware issue.

[lusty lagoon]

aye, multiplayer has some stutters currently, but the fact that we have a playable albeit unstable build this soon after B42 unstable release is awesome

[lusty lagoon]

i'm not your friend, because you're not very friendly, i don't think your points invalid, its just that your attitude stinks something cronic lol

[peak kindle]

True. Even tho it has some strange bugs but it's a huge win 😭 I was waiting for the multi-player for so long! Especially since B42 is so awesome! And the content. But tbh I like the multiplying animals bug 😂 it's funny and it's a plus for us 👀

[lusty lagoon]

me and my boys are waiting for a few key fixes before delving deep into it

right now we're just fucking about exploring and getting in dangerous situations lol

[vernal lake]

I don't consider you a friend. This was said solely out of respect for the other person.

[lusty lagoon]

why edit that bad bit out friend? i'm sure sully would love to see it lol

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-lick-fast-lick-cute-cat-cats-gif-27624519

[peak kindle]

My friends wanted immediatelly to jump into B42 since they were playing B41 multi-player. I spend my time alone im B42 since it has so much more content. And I also do it for science. Some bugs are meh, not as bad but the one where the doors open up by themselves when zombies walk up to them >.< that's what killed me and I had lvled up so much, I was building my house from scratch haha

[lusty lagoon]

XP not working properly is holding me back currently, we'll delve properly into crafting when those fixes come, and exhastion just ain't working right as of now, they're probably the 2 biggest for me right now

[peak kindle]

The exhastion yes, that's what lead me to my death 😭 I ran into a house to rest, I closed the front doors, then went to a bedroom and closed the doors there to to rest. Zombies walked up to the front door they magically opened up, same with my bedroom doors and 5 zombies swarmed in and killed me 🤦‍♀️ for xp? Idk, haven't noticed any issues. Well the foraging skill shot up like crazy haha. I found like 7 items while foraging and I was immediatelly lvl 4 in it even tho I started with 0 and didn't had any perk that lvls up it fast. Carpentry worked fine. The biggest perk in multiplayer is during the night time you can just read books and wait for the day. In 4 days I finished 2 books and bunch of magazines for different recipes which was amazing 🙌

[golden berry]

hello, Has anyone already discussed how to solve the problem with micro-freezes every 2 seconds in multiplayer?

[summer prawn]

Banana??? lettuce?? damn bro spawns those items atp

[wanton pond]

Anyone else having issues with vhs tapes not giving XP? I also cant place it back into the shelf. 🙁

[obtuse hornet]

Known issue, temporary workaround until a fix is pushed can be found here: https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/88507-b42-multiplayer/

[obtuse hornet]

PZ isn't graphics limited like those modern AAA games, it's CPU limited because the number of calculations and underlying systems is orders of magnitudes larger than AAA games. PZ is more akin to games like Dwarf Fortress.

[obtuse hornet]

People disagreeing with you is not white knighting. Saying you are having performance issues is 100% valid criticism, someone disagreeing is also valid feedback. Just because someone is having performance issues doesn't mean everyone is.

[icy condor]

despite some minor bugs and desync B42 MP has been a treat

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-tong-car-gif-18327859063546042856

[obtuse hornet]

^ see... and other people have a completely different opinion

that's normal

[icy condor]

and alot of hours in this game xD

[obtuse hornet]

people need to stop getting angry over a video game

[icy condor]

dont get me wrong yeah bugs sure suck sometimes but like honestly we are so fucking lucky to even have unstable instead of waiting years or just long extended periods for a update

a very minor bug i posted in january got fixed this recent update and i was shocked and so happy lmfao because it was so tiny and dumb but yet they fixed it

think also working in tech i kinda understand how ass SAAS and development goes so idk, i just really see the effort indie stone devs put into their product

the fact ive also never crashed in MP yet is also insane, super neat

[hexed cedar]

Rather yapping, how about we focus on playing B41 if you guys want to use mod on server?

also B42 new update still unstable which means there will be some bugs & error

[signal hatch]

It is tho, immediatly saying "NO THATS ONLY YOU STOP COMPLAINING" when somoene is pointing out valif criticism and giving feedback is in my eyes the pure definition of white knighting

[umbral atlas]

[willow moth]

there's an alternate universe where TIS implemented NPCs into Zomboid before multiplayer.

"but NPCs did exist in the g-"

ep ep ep ep

shhh

[obtuse hornet]

Except that's not what he said. You're attributing more malice to his words than there was because you disagree with him. He was addressing hostility that he felt unwarranted because his experiences are different.

[signal hatch]

Well... he said and I quote
"you're just venting dude, your pushy entitlement isn't of any help or encouragement to anyone"

If that isn't telling somoene to shut up and atop complaining then I don't know what is

[obtuse hornet]

Like I said, he was addressing the guy's hostility

not the performance issues

[signal hatch]

I mean... I guess thats true

Anyway, adressing hostility with more hostility isn't really the way to go

[willow moth]

everybody pretty much knows the performance currently sucks. the devs have addressed it, though, which I'm thankful for.

[obtuse hornet]

At the same time, if you just leave the initial hostility there, it spreads and festers

[signal hatch]

Meh, not really. And even if, there are better ways to handle that than "you are just entitled lol"

[obtuse hornet]

Not everyone has the perfect response to every situation

your response was no better

[signal hatch]

Inerestingly enough I don't even have that many issues with it

[signal hatch]

Fair point

[willow moth]

I do sometimes, but I'm also playing on an integrated graphics AMD that doesn't even support Windows 11

[signal hatch]

I have more issues with my guy beeing a biggest loser contestant than the performance

[earnest saffron]

Mp has been working no problem for me, and there just has only been bugs with animations and things like that

[signal hatch]

I literally couldn't do anything the other day because my guy ate so many godamn snickers that he got exhausted after 5 swings

[signal hatch]

Damn, you lucky son of a bitch

Teach me your ways master

[dull arrow]

Is it true that the devs are actually gonna add drugs???

[earnest saffron]

I guess maybe it’s because me and my friend and my brother live so close to eachother

[signal hatch]

Well we have beer...

[dull arrow]

No no, actual drugs like crack

[signal hatch]

Yeah that could be it actually. But I have problems even as a host somehow

I gave you everything game, my wifi, my wife and a whole 16 gb of RAM, why won't you work😭

[dull arrow]

You running a dedicated server?

[signal hatch]

Nah, only the MP host thingy

I aint rich enough for a server

[dull arrow]

Yea that makes sense had issues with that to. Just make a dedicated server for free

[signal hatch]

Don't I need a seperate PC for that?

[dull arrow]

No

[signal hatch]

Huh... how does that work then?

[dull arrow]

You can run it on your own pc

[signal hatch]

So whats the difference from just hosting normally then?

[dull arrow]

Your pc is basically the server ig. Dedicated servers are just better for performance from my own experience

[earnest saffron]

Did you delete the db thing

In the files

[dull arrow]

Im not that good with pc stuff. Ask tech support if you want to have a dedicated server

[royal widget]

big doubt and no, would cause rating issues in a lot of countries

probably why certain funny places in game have "hemp seeds" instead of cannabis...

[signal hatch]

No, I didn't touch the files at all

[signal hatch]

Really tho? Seems kinda weird considering schedule 1 is a thing

[royal widget]

Schedule 1 adds entirely imaginary drugs with customizable effects. Not referring to actual, real drugs

[signal hatch]

It literally adds weed and crack

[obtuse hornet]

Probably not. We have to tread carefully in those areas

[signal hatch]

Thats likr going, oh well this isn't weed... it's uhhh... uhhhh... uhhhh snow, this is snow

[royal widget]

Well I'll throw my proverbial hands in the air and say "I don't fucking know" then

[signal hatch]

Well same then😂

[royal widget]

Some realistic things are not worth adding into a zombie game

at best, funny references like the mentioned hemp seeds in a clear...den

[signal hatch]

I mean, it has massive modsupport so let the modder handle the controversial stuff

[royal widget]

There's already mods for hard drugs for a long while no?

[signal hatch]

Very likely

[earnest saffron]

That’s what fixed my hosting problem

[signal hatch]

So why take the risk

[signal hatch]

What problem specifically?

[earnest saffron]

Termination

I’d host it and it said backup then terminated

[signal hatch]

Damn, you got the T1000?

[earnest saffron]

Yes😭

Just look in the files

[signal hatch]

My only issues are

1. Actions get interrupted
2. My character is a fat fuck

Like, I don't remembe the exhaustion ever beeing so bad in B42 so it must be unintentional right?

[earnest saffron]

Oh damn

So multiplayer is working?

[signal hatch]

Well... kinda lol

[obtuse hornet]

There are bugs with certain multipliers at the moment, I believe exhaustion is one

[earnest saffron]

Yes and when I was in a car my exhaustion went away in like a minute

[signal hatch]

Ah okay, that makes sense then

[earnest saffron]

I literally went from exhausted to out of breath in like a minute

[signal hatch]

I also like the new sprinter. They are just powerwalker now😂

[signal hatch]

Holy damn

[mighty pebble]

Australia will get big mad

[obtuse hornet]

Among others... but yeah, one of the big benefits of making the game so mod friendly is that mods can handle this sort of thing for us

[mighty pebble]

Although silly names worked for rimworld somehow hahaha. It’s not drugs it’s ‘yayo’ it’s mad up!

[fringe narwhal]

so far ive seen, blacksmithing, maintenance, long blunt and mechanics but might as well be all skills, im one month in and im 2 nimble

[ionic thorn]

I imagine that wouldn't work as well in PZ's settings, given it's Kentucky instead of random future planet—little joke knockoff names for products are one thing, but it'd be weird to find “marrywanna” in PZ lol

[mighty pebble]

Yeah I agree, but I have laughed almost every time at the alternate names they picked for real worlds things. Star burst being nova pops is my favourite hahaha

[ionic thorn]

I enjoy those too, they're cute references

[mellow swallow]

Has anyone reported of cooking just bricking in MP and no longer able to in any oven?

[candid vector]

Can we pleeeeeeeeaaase remove the "remove all cars" option in the context menu?

[obtuse hornet]

Conflicting reports. If the problem is occurring on a fresh save with no mods installed please report it as a bug

!bugreport

[kind bluff]

Your report on Discord might end up being lost to the void. Please report bugs on our forums or Steam:

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/forum/85-bug-reports/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/6/

Please be sure to follow our Bug Reporting Guide to ensure the team receive all necessary information to investigate your issue. https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/43261-bug-reporting-guide-updated-05082025/

[mellow swallow]

Sure I will had it on the MP with my two friends on launch day it started working fine then I think a desync of some kind just brucked it all. I noticed it begin to progress "slightly" for the items when moved out of the cooker on the first few then not at all later on

[analog blaze]

Has the plumbing been fixed?

[dull arrow]

Aw okay 🙁 still hoping that one day…

[royal widget]

Why, though? I hate advocating "just use mods" for something you want to be in the base game, but why in particular do you want hard drugs in the game? Genuinely curious

[dull arrow]

realism

[dull arrow]

got inspired by the drunk moodle and effects tbh

[royal widget]

it's a valid answer nonetheless

I could think of many really disgusting things that are realistic but not in game for...not providing anything meaningful

[dull arrow]

some things are best not said then

[royal widget]

aye

But hey fair enough, drugs have effects that could be useful and fit in the game

[dull arrow]

i have seen things in this workshop so vile i wonder how people got those ideas

[dull arrow]

exactly

[royal widget]

early days of B42, mere drop of cola drinks had an effect that would fit drugs better, but that was a bug 😄

[dull arrow]

seriously? which patch, 42.1?

[royal widget]

somewhere there, adding tiniest portion of fatigue removing drinks would fully wipe your fatigue, and effectively be an infinite source of anti-sleeping "vitamins" for single player

colamancy, I miss thee

[dull arrow]

that is funny af what

if only i was a dev/intern here :/

[royal widget]

I mean real life mental health medications can be based on amphetamines, and the first time use effects can be wild - speaking of experience, of being fully alert and awake for 50 hours straight after first time

[dull arrow]

holy shit that sounds cool and bad

[royal widget]

an important difference - the family of amphetamines, or even strains of cannabis can vary, not all variants are the same thing as the "drug" variant

[dull arrow]

how do you know so much about drugs

[royal widget]

I don't think I said much, it's basic chemistry and some basic knowledge of medication xD

[analog blaze]

and what a wholesome one

[dusky bolt]

cocaine bear clearing rosewood for me would be a unique experience

[analog blaze]

i could live of a brick of milk fro at least a week

[dull arrow]

devs need to explain the crackhouse in muldraugh if they dont wanna add drugs

[royal widget]

I fully support adding wild animals being able to forage your food, if unprotected, and if they take a dose of the wrong thing, getting affected by it

[royal widget]

it's called immersion, the hideaway drug/weed den at Darkwallow Lake or whatever, has hemp seeds among the trash, not cannabis

[dull arrow]

WHAT

hold the fuck there isa drug weed den at darkwallow lake

coordinates?

[royal widget]

that place is on an island with no access, for me had mattreses on the floor and unkempt interior, and loot was very drug-user related

is the coordinates, its basically the giant lake with lots of islands south of March Ridge.

[analog blaze]

does anyone please know if there has been a fix for plumbing when the water goes out?

[dull arrow]

thx

[dull arrow]

mp or sp?

[royal widget]

for easier reference

[analog blaze]

mp

[royal widget]

big lake, southern island

[dull arrow]

strange havent found this bug. gotta wait for a patch

ya i found the island. how much "drugs" were there

[analog blaze]

im asking because in porevious versions you werent able to plumb barrels to things

[royal widget]

I can't recall what loot settings I had back when I last played, but it was funny to find hemp seeds, because thats what people smoke, rope/clothing hemp

[analog blaze]

last time i played it was maybe .5?

[dull arrow]

i remember that it should have been fixed in sp. dont know in mp though

[dull arrow]

so how do you get to tthis island

[analog blaze]

and the water comes out purified or not?

[royal widget]

you build a bridge with wood, thats how I connected many of the islands there for a car to drive

[dull arrow]

if you plumb it into a sink than yea

[analog blaze]

hell yeah

[dull arrow]

you good sir are smart, gonna do this with my friend

[analog blaze]

we are so fucking back

[royal widget]

very simple and not too expensive matter to build a bridge of even wider kind to accomodate cars to that island

[analog blaze]

and rice, pasta, legumes etc has been fixed too?