#42.7.0 Unstable Released

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ebon pivot
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Zomboid currently is way too easy

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I mean once you get a car even louisville can become easy to clear out

twin thorn
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I mean, what to expect from a proper zombie apocalypse?

ebon pivot
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Cars should be effected by weather conditions

twin thorn
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Slow zombies = right about 0 problems

south lagoon
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Make it harder? If the games easy for you, then play it a harder way, those tools are already at your disposal

ebon pivot
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Windshield wipers should be added and they need to be replaced every 6 in game months ish

twin thorn
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100% sprinter zombies 💀

south lagoon
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CDDA makes you have to think about every move, you should try it, if you want even more challenge, do as I do, go in with a challenging build

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I start with 0 strength, fast metabolism, 2 fitness, and disorganised

ebon pivot
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Cdda is unrealistic because its such a horrible situation to start in

twin thorn
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Sandbox settings are a thing after all

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It's a regular setting, but you get to choose precisely what each setting is

south lagoon
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Is not that unrealistic do stupid shit when blackout drunk

ebon pivot
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Ive been playing with sandbox settings for along time now but i mean the game in general

twin thorn
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Want more zombies? Check. Want tougher and stronger zombies? Check. No guns spawning? Check. Clothing degrades after you sneeze on it? Check.

ebon pivot
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Syphoning being required to get gas late game was a great addition

twin thorn
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All is there, you just have to spend some time changing it

ebon pivot
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I hope we get more features like that.

twin thorn
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Or any game, for that matter

ebon pivot
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Zomboid at its core needs alot of changes

twin thorn
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Once you learn what to do and how to do it the best, there isn't much that'll make you lose the game

ebon pivot
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B42 has made great ones so far

twin thorn
south lagoon
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Why not just play a different way? Just because something is the best or "meta" doesn't mean you're required to do it?

ebon pivot
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The gas change was awesome and is so useful but i also think cars need oil.

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Cars should need oil changes after awhile or risk breaking the engine

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Funnels are in game

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Just unscrew the oil let it drip out

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Replace the oil after boom

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Would make fixing cars more difficult cuz overtime the oil would be bad

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Oil would spawn in everywhere even supermarkets just like irl

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Its carried in supermarkets because oil changes are common

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Cars not having any oil features or hoses makes it incredibly unrealistic

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That and the fact when a tire pops the entire wheel practically vanishes

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It wouldnt be an incredible overhaul to the vehicles in game only an addition

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Mainly code and texture based

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Just retextire blood splatter add some shine and boom u got oil on the ground after u unscrew the cap

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oil tests should be found in supermarkets and auto shops too

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U test the oil it tells u how much is in the tank and then u either replace or add to it

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Instantly cars become more about maintenance and require skill to take care of

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This feature would require mechanics level 1 which is an easy skill to level

ebon pivot
craggy nest
shy helm
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Sometimes a mechanic can be too gamey for the sake of realism

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But then we also have magical zombies

ebon pivot
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Oil changes would legit use very simular code to gas

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Its just filling or taking out a liquid to make sure thingy go vroom vroom

shy helm
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Unless of course, we want gasoline to expire too so without biofuel making, cars become entirely unuseable eventually in very few months. Which in return would require engineering skills to convert engines to be able to use biofuel, requiring very weird parts that would be required to be added...

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But I do not deny your claim, cars are very basic

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Would want an alternative way to haul loot piles before making cars more effort draining

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Horses and saddlebags

last wharf
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Especially when you start to get into ambient temperature, viscosity, the correct type of oil, balancing the amount of oil, balancing engine damage due to insufficient or wrong oil etc.

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Then you'd prolly also want to get dirty through it so you'd need a new type of dirt that beeing oil and then ways to clean oil. And then also the items to do the oil change. Not doing an oil change with a running engine, adjusting the car UI etc.

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And while you are doing oil why not add cooling fluid too and then you open a whole new can of worms

ebon pivot
last wharf
ebon pivot
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It makes sense to add it to cars

last wharf
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Just... do a proper car update

ebon pivot
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They dont need to add every single part of a car or mechanic in game

last wharf
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It's supossed to be a realistic game so yes they probably want to

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Having one update focused on car makes far more sense than just slamming a random oil update into B42 or so

wise token
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Realistically you change oil once every 6 months or even more rarely. Cars in zomboid do not live that long (especially on high-population settings).

solid osprey
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Don't worry, no offense taken. It is just that there's no way to be more clear than "Mp is not coming in this patch", we habe no reason to trick anyone about that

shy helm
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need to make an interactive website that has an extremely slow moving progress bar towards MP, the closer to the end it gets, the more likely MP is. But the trick is, the bar will actually reach the end in 10 years, and only reaching the end guarantees MP

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its like a carrot on a stick type distraction for the worst offenders of "MP WHEN???"

sterile geyser
shy helm
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no ETA

south lagoon
ebon pivot
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remove the ability to attach weapons onto your back (its goofy looking) add slings that add 1 attachment slot to your back found in hunting vehicles police stations and on looter/bandit zombies and swat zombies and some police zombies

backpack automatically gives +1 attachment slot allowing for one back weapon

sling + backpack = 2 back weapon slots

makes no sense that the survivor can just attach a gun to their back with seemingly 0 way of doing so

torso + sling = melee weapon

gun + screwdriver + sling = gun slot + quicker drawing speed of the weapon

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you can just walk around with the axe in your hand until you find a sling or backpack (sandbox option "EASY WEAPONS" allows you to attach a weapon to your back like you can currently)

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a gun attached to a backpack has 0 benifits other then being drawable.

this would make slings a sought after item for police and veterans

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YOU CANNOT WEAR MULTIPLE SLINGS (for balance reasons) "sandbox option EASY SLINGS" (allows you to wear up to 3 slings??)

cyan wigeon
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Sounds like you need to learn to mod

ebon pivot
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sling mods have been a thing since like build 40 why arent they a thing in game yet :(

cyan wigeon
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Nothing is holding you back from using those mods.
I am deathly afraid of the vanilla zombie noises, so I found a mod that replaced them

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No way in hell am I going to demand that the devs change that

ebon pivot
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yeah but the mods are usually unbalanced or poorly made when it comes to slings

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its also a valid feature for them to add

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it really doesn't make sense that you can attach a gun to your literal skin

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we have holsters for pistols

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why can i attach a shotgun to my SKIN

cyan wigeon
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What about the melee weapons on your back?

ebon pivot
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same exact thing and i already said how it would work

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why can i attach a literal axe to my skin

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backpack = 1 gun or melee slot
sling = 1 gun or melee slot

cyan wigeon
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That sounds like an unneeded feature.

ebon pivot
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you can have 2 guns or 2 melees

sling + screwdriver + shotgun/rifle = quicker equip speed of the weapon or slightly lower weight?

ebon pivot
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if anything holsters are completely unneeded by that logic because you can just stick a gun onto your belt irl

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just squeeze it inbetwee your pants + belt boom

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or just use your back pocket

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safety exists for a reason.

cyan wigeon
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I am not going to discuss this, its tedium for no real benefit

ebon pivot
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zomboid players fr cant read anymore?

cyan wigeon
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I stopped reading the moment you want to remove a feature

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If a sling were to give a straight benefit without removing anything. No issue

shy helm
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I can't put anything attached to my belt either IRL, so lets remove all belt and back slots

ebon pivot
cyan wigeon
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Women's clothing has almost no pockets, so lets half all carrying capacity for women

shy helm
tacit garnet
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Next patch is coming out when you finally get a job.

wise token
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Don't you guys have duct tape on your back?

shy helm
wise token
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Hard to object, it is indeed

shy helm
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Ever tried to leave from a leathery couch when laying down for too long??

wise token
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yeah, the couch leaves with you

tacit garnet
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Maybe try getting a job or something. It will help you get distracted

ancient scaffold
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aww I saw a notification and thought for sure it was a new patchnote, I'm losing it stressed

shy helm
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try playing Vintage Story with 1 life, it kept me busy until I started dying after 40+ hours of gameplay

stone echo
wise junco
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Next patch's taking so long I had time to get a second and third gig between waiting times

lavish shore
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The next patch is probably going to be huge

shy helm
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and it won't have MP either

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actual big features inc

lavish shore
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Can’t wait to make beer tbh

glacial badger
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I can’t wait for bows 🙏

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I want nothing more than being able to spawn in, walk into the woods and thrive. I want that wilderness experience

shy helm
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a proper wildman of the woods stealth archer

vernal topaz
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Yeah I am hoping for bows and systems like brewing. Give me a bow and infinite beer!

buoyant widget
shy helm
buoyant widget
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I hope arrow crafting isn't too much of a pain in the ass. @shy helm

glacial badger
shy helm
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all those chicken feathers gonna be useful

glacial badger
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I wonder if we’ll be able to forage feathers. Or make arrows without feathers

shy helm
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also assuming you can retrieve arrows, with a chance of breaking it (arrowheads should not get destroyed tbh, just the shafts)

glacial badger
shy helm
glacial badger
shy helm
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I hate games where you have single use arrows by default

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stone wall durability hurts me still, to just know zeds can break them

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just make zeds to hug the stone walls creepily but without being able to damage it, perfect source of anxiety when zeds keep doing that knowing you're inside

glacial badger
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I haven’t played around with it but I’m willing to bet an angry pig could smash through your level 10 stone wall in under 10 seconds

shy helm
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they do that to metal walls too

glacial badger
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._.

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WHY DO THEY HURT ME LIKE THIS

shy helm
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preset building walls might be the only things they cannot destroy

lunar meadow
shy helm
lunar meadow
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I'll leave you with that

shy helm
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come try to smash my irl apartment door, you're allowed to have one-handed tools, you won't be able to do it

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and its wooden

lunar meadow
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yeah but a zombie can rip a human into pieces like a cooked brisket

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they ain't average strength

shy helm
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lies, no source claims Knox virus gives them additional strenght

lunar meadow
shy helm
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how do you pronounce Le to the potency of 2 anyway

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Llee? Lele?

candid orbit
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I guess GIFs are not allowed anymore.

lavish shore
wooden locust
vernal topaz
next cargo
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So when update

candid orbit
wooden locust
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Ts so tuff

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cunning delta
wooden locust
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Can't even remember

cunning delta
wooden locust
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✅

lusty folio
wheat oar
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Expecting next patch to probably be multiplayer

magic pawn
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I heard that it probably isnt @wheat oar

gaunt imp
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confirmed multiple times it isnt

amber marten
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Perhaps it could still be tho 🤔

gaunt imp
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it istnhungover

candid orbit
glacial badger
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how do we know it wasn't opposite day 🤔

candid orbit
glacial badger
candid orbit
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Dev confirms their answer is not affected by any Opposite Days.

ivory bobcat
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lies

amber marten
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I've never not seen no mean no but it could still be tho, ya know?

candid orbit
lucid sentinel
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guys the next patch is COMING!!!!!

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at some point\

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🤷‍♂️

hushed thorn
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will next patch fix the problems with approaching doors from different sides? Like if I want to dismantle a door and it says I have the skills and items to do it, but then it tries to autoroute my character to the side of the door I can't access

candid orbit
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Like, we literally don't even have a single changelog given publicly from the devs for the new patch.

royal urchin
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guys mp WILL be tomorrow

amber marten
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Never seen a company so unwilling to communicate. Something is up

gaunt imp
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They got something (not multiplayer) epic in the works

candid orbit
foggy minnow
untold latch
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gotta love how this chat is stuck in the same convo on loop since a couple weeks already 😅

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``A: "Why is the next patch taking forever? I could’ve started a whole new playthrough by now."

B: "Yeah, but it’s gonna be massive!"

A: "Okay, but… multiplayer when?"

B: "Pretty sure the next patch is multiplayer."

C (usually the voice of reason): "Guys, it’s been confirmed multiple times that it’s not. There are still tons of features missing and things that need polishing before multiplayer even makes sense."

A, B, and the rest of the impatient crowd: "Ugh, that’s lame. Just release multiplayer already! Why is TIS so slow?!"``

[Scroll back up to see this cycle repeat endlessly.]

cedar tapir
untold latch
wheat oar
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Polished crafting system is a must

untold latch
wheat oar
pastel stag
magic pawn
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Lowkey kinda need more crafting items rather than MP

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i want to make a spiked broken banjo arm

shy helm
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Both "no mp" and "we'll make it worth the wait" have been said

magic pawn
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i hope its this RPG my friend found at a construction site the other day

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Need this in base game

candid orbit
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That might come, but definitely after the Fire rework.

sullen otter
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they talked about it a bit in a blog some time ago, but nothing else. it's not even in the planned features for 42

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I think they should rework the system before even thinking of b43

glacial badger
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Oh man I hope so. The most frustrating death is accidentally getting too close to your campfire in a wilderness run -_-

livid flume
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Taken out by a bathroom horde before I could finish my question

storm quest
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So is there any ETA on like, mutliplayer?

shy helm
dense iron
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next patch is mostly adding and fixing features

untold latch
candid orbit
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Build 42 is crafting and wilderness survival.

velvet pond
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mp only when planned features are ready and as many bugs as possible are squashed probably

candid orbit
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MP only when the crafting is complete.

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So, we have several patches to go.

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Maybe 10s of them.

velvet pond
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probably not all this

candid orbit
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I don't expect MP to drop until around GTA6 launches next year, so I am good.

pine holly
pine holly
candid orbit
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I don't buy a single one bit where Build 43 comes in 2026.

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NPC AI takes an extremely long time to get right

shy helm
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Ill be over 40 when b43 has a chance to drop

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And middle age when full release

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Lifetime gaming project

cunning delta
shy helm
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B43 is not same as full 1.0 PZ release

cunning delta
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yes but

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b43 isnt the final build

shy helm
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Exactly

cunning delta
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how would you be over 40

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and then under 40

shy helm
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People age

pine holly
shy helm
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First towards 40 and after, older than 40

cunning delta
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ah mb I read that wrong

shy helm
round knot
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No .8 STILL? Forget about it actually, I don't even want it anymore

ebon pivot
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I think the devs should make revolvers less loud rn its so loud that its almost unrealistic

solid osprey
shy helm
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No memes allowed, says Frogski

ebon pivot
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But once i shoot a revolver it hurts my ears

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Maybe make ear protectors function as a fix if u dont wanna change the sound

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Theres a few mods that already do this and its a life saver

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Could add those little orange ear buds at gunstores as a lower quality one

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After u unequip them once they become ruined

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Comes in a bottle of like 20 ish

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Open bottle u get 1 set earbuds

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becomes a trash item after unequip from head slot/ears

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Could spawn on the floor in shooting ranges as a trash item

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And in police station trash cans

knotty ermine
ancient scaffold
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don't worry guys, 42.8 tomorrow, for real this time. it's obviously for real because I said for real. It's over there at the beginning of this text in case you missed it. Just to be clear, I would like to go out of my way to utter the utterance that I'm intending to utter in the timeframe that is the next few seconds or perhaps minutes, it is unclear at this time but that too shall be revealed. You know what else shall be revealed? Yes, you guessed it, it is nothing more than the thing that we're all thinking of right now, which isn't my mom (come on guys) but rather the next update, non other than the one and only build 42.8 itself. Now one might have the thought of saying a thing come to mind and then proceeds to say: but how do you know? to which I say, trust. me. bro. Yes! I said it, I don't regret it, just tru... okay I'm done, it's 2AM I have finals in a week and I regret nothing!

lavish shore
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don't worry guys, 42.8 tomorrow, for real this time. it's obviously for real because I said for real. It's over there at the beginning of this text in case you missed it. Just to be clear, I would like to go out of my way to utter the utterance that I'm intending to utter in the timeframe that is the next few seconds or perhaps minutes, it is unclear at this time but that too shall be revealed. You know what else shall be revealed? Yes, you guessed it, it is nothing more than the thing that we're all thinking of right now, which isn't my mom (come on guys) but rather the next update, non other than the one and only build 42.8 itself. Now one might have the thought of saying a thing come to mind and then proceeds to say: but how do you know? to which I say, trust. me. bro. Yes! I said it, I don't regret it, just tru... okay I'm done, it's 2AM I have finals in a week and I regret nothing!

magic pawn
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don't worry guys, 42.8 tomorrow, for real this time. it's obviously for real because I said for real. It's over there at the beginning of this text in case you missed it. Just to be clear, I would like to go out of my way to utter the utterance that I'm intending to utter in the timeframe that is the next few seconds or perhaps minutes, it is unclear at this time but that too shall be revealed. You know what else shall be revealed? Yes, you guessed it, it is nothing more than the thing that we're all thinking of right now, which isn't my mom (come on guys) but rather the next update, non other than the one and only build 42.8 itself. Now one might have the thought of saying a thing come to mind and then proceeds to say: but how do you know? to which I say, trust. me. bro. Yes! I said it, I don't regret it, just tru... okay I'm done, it's 2AM I have finals in a week and I regret nothing!

next cargo
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🤬

candid orbit
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Who invaded us with copypasta?

empty knot
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some modder just had to troll us players lol

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twin thorn
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It's 1993!

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There's only Woodland, more Woodland, some Woodland, and a bit of Woodland too

empty knot
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yea its kinda messed up the lore

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gonna unsub for now, I got other military gear mod still workin

round knot
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If .8 doesn't come out tomorrow, I will stop giving my valued personal opinion into the inner workings of Indie stone, forever, don't make me do it

ebon pivot
vernal lynx
acoustic cloud
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Make .8 update just revert everyone back to B40 for complaining about MP

magic pawn
magic pawn
sterile karma
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i hope the next patch contains archery.......

mostly just because im really biased and want to make my mod im working on atm have archery components too

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itd be very convenient timing

kindred socket
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Dunno if its gonna be coming this time around

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I know they said they wanted to, but it may not

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Not for b42 anyway

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Just depends if they get it working

hushed thorn
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with the new animation system I bet that when archery is added it will look pretty sick though

iron hornet
latent tulip
cunning delta
latent tulip
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It so cute

iron hornet
dense iron
iron hornet
round knot
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For every day there is no .8, I will roast and eat 1 raccoon.

shy helm
round knot
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I was going to get a picture off the internet but it just made me sad

candid orbit
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I am also starting to believe Steam Deck support will be coming sooner than MP.

magic pawn
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if this update is just 1 new feature where the game is fully functional on Steam Deck im gonna cry

vernal topaz
feral fulcrum
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Where is multiplayer attttt ughhhhh

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I wanna play with my pals so bad

shy helm
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not here for a long while

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ask again in 2+ months

hushed thorn
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the thing is, B42 only ever updates when I make good progress in a save

vernal topaz
hushed thorn
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so it's my fault for not playing B42 and then surviving for like a week. The game will never update until I grind out a blacksmithing setup at Westpoint for the third time.

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then, once I've finally completed my work, the game will update and none of my shit will work and I'll lose my save.

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as the prophecy fortold.

vernal topaz
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I stopped playing to sell my house 5 weeks ago and said i'd play again after next update, so might be my fault too

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Ill boot up a new save tomorrow morning see if it helps lmao

compact pendant
hushed thorn
ivory bobcat
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lmao

cedar tapir
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They should release stable before mp spiffo

ivory bobcat
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you just delayed 42.8 by a year

vernal topaz
royal urchin
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B42 MP tomorrow for Victoria Day celebration

gaunt imp
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they're delaying multiplayer to 2030 now

royal urchin
heavy meteor
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Let's not mention this word anymore 😅

next cargo
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Theres no 42.8 right know

fossil ether
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Tell me, I haven't played Zomboid in a long time and maybe I missed something, but is this the texture of the car or did they add a normal interior to the car?

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I've noticed before that when loading a car, you can clearly see the painted details in its hood, but when you remove the hood, everything is gray.

next cargo
iron hornet
craggy nest
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And gamepad fixing

solemn breach
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About multiplayer unfortunately they can't release it if there are synchronisation issues..

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This would make all go crazy... That's probably the only feature you must be sure at 100% it work before releasing it or you would get only problems.

candid orbit
solemn breach
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Yep

iron hornet
# craggy nest *no mp updates

TIS can take their time with MP.. I imagine they will first get the crafting, research and building updates at least close to finished before officially working on MP or setting a date or something.

candid orbit
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And in my head that suggested release date is when GTA 6 goes live on PS5/Xbox next year. Could be sooner.

craggy nest
magic pawn
iron hornet
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I need to find a good replacement for my, crowbars. I cant find many more I think

magic pawn
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Lol lucky you @iron hornet

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I was playing on my save, when I started to get errors (vanilla game mind you) and when I was camping out in Irvington, I walked away to loot some place and my truck and camp site despawned

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deleted my save out of frustration because atp what can you do

iron hornet
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Tbh I have turned Zomboid into Farming simulator, I might go clear Guns unlimited in the winter

magic pawn
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I fucking hate the animal raiisng though

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@iron hornet Killing piglets is so tedious

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theres like 5 that spawn each day in their breeding season its so fucking annoying because they consume so much resources

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and then having a spaced out, large acre farm SOUNDS good in practice but its so much walking

iron hornet
magic pawn
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10 minute walk to and from the house to the animals

magic pawn
iron hornet
iron hornet
magic pawn
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lol

magic pawn
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i do feel bad whenever I coop all my animals so close together though

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like packing them into one confined space

vernal topaz
iron hornet
twin wind
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have they gone quiet again? what happened

sullen otter
coral oasis
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I'm glad it is taking this long, they are getting in the cool stuff

shy helm
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Day ???? without a patch. All is well, knowing The Indie Game Store is cooking. No rush, no burning hurry to go anywhere.

fringe oriole
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something huge is coming

shy helm
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Something huge, but not MP, so it gotta be a great one

ancient scaffold
coral oasis
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!heli

deep snowBOT
tacit garnet
shy helm
tacit garnet
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That its big

shy helm
vernal topaz
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The longer it takes the bigger it is

shy helm
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probably reintroducing the biggest patch ever, the prehistorical gigant raccoon we saw a skull of

next cargo
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Still waiting

vernal topaz
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I haven't started a new playthrough yet if I start now it will release. Ill do it

humble onyx
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maybe it's whatever is the triple question mark in the original image

vernal topaz
coral oasis
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No 42.8 please, not until the remaining features are added

deep snowBOT
iron hornet
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I want horses in the boid

compact pendant
vernal topaz
dense iron
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horse mobile

lavish shore
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Maybe we can feed animals gasoline to make them run faster

solid osprey
vernal lynx
coral oasis
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dat horse mod :))))))

dense iron
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just be careful of Nintendo riding patent since they tried to sue palworld lol

coral oasis
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lucky the modders are working on something better now

lavish shore
frozen hinge
twin wind
fringe oriole
latent tulip
dense aspen
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please speed i need this

coral oasis
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hopefully

frozen hinge
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finally cows can wear hats?!

sullen otter
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ducks incoming?

oak totem
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why ducks

frozen hinge
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lol

sullen otter
oak totem
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should they spread infection

sullen otter
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please, move this to the higher ups

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plead my case

frozen hinge
sullen otter
frozen hinge
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make us suffer

timber latch
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can i play this multiplayer ? host server for 4 ? or is it better wait for stable version ?

frozen hinge
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we deserve it

knotty ermine
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PZ: The Sexs Update 42.8

gaunt imp
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1.0 in 5 seconds

shy helm
reef hill
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Other than that no, not currently

candid orbit
frozen hinge
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lol

magic pawn
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patchnote tomorrow

vernal topaz
gloomy crypt
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42.8 when?

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This definitely a big update

shy helm
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not today

vernal topaz
coral oasis
vernal topaz
amber marten
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I can feel it in me bones, tomorrowe

craggy nest
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42800 comments in this thread and they are uploading an update

vernal topaz
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How many is it at now

candid orbit
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0.1%

vernal topaz
empty knot
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anyone tried the b42 version of this mod yet?

vernal topaz
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Im so tired I thought you linked to a mod of B42.8 for a second lmao

stone echo
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off work for the next two days so b42.8 is coming out tomorrow morning. sorry for the delay everyone they were holding it back specifically for me

vernal topaz
blazing sandal
next cargo
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Tomorror and then tomorrow again

north mica
zinc leaf
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Another day...

coral oasis
wheat oar
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:)

vernal topaz