42.7.0 Unstable Released

[hallow vale]

you are now pretending other people shouldn't be offended when you simply brushed off their opinions as coping

you did it to egg on them, it's the exact playbook of every troll who insults users while voicing their frustration and is then surprised when they are banned

[shy helm]

As per wikipedia, coping is: Coping refers to conscious or unconscious strategies used to reduce and manage unpleasant emotions. Coping strategies can be cognitions or behaviors and can be individual or social.

In this context, its pretty clear you think other people are wrong, period. And because they're "wrong", any opposing opinion of theirs is "coping". As if people know they're wrong when opposing you, but having to come to terms with it...

Ergo, you assume any opposing opinion is wrong.

[gaunt valve]

If that's egging on to you guys, I suggest a couple of human interactions or maybe some debate classes.
Good lord, ya'll.

[latent tulip]

Dude 7 days to die was in early access for 11 years. This game has been in early access for about the same amount if your upset that it not done then you shouldn't have ever bought the game. You should do your research before buy a game and then getting upset that it not done yet.

[hallow vale]

I think you might want to call your own mailbox

[gaunt valve]

What

[hallow vale]

Apparently you are the only one with any valid opinions

Others are either coping or too soft

[latent tulip]

Let alone pz devs could easily say the game is out of early access and then just walk away and you wouldn't be able to get your money back if got it from steam

[hallow vale]

Point the way sir, we'll follow your lead

"modders do all the work"
"they hire modders"
"yall coping"

[gaunt valve]

No, ya'll try and make personal attacks when I disagree with you. Which is pathetic. I didn't like something ya'll like so you go and make it personal.

Fuck off your high horse, and just accept that not everyone wants to be okay with a game's slow development

[hallow vale]

"cope harder"

[shy helm]

Says the guy who thinks "coping" doesn't mean "you're wrong, but you won't admit it"

[hallow vale]

"ya'll try and make personal attacks when I disagree with you."

[gaunt valve]

Yes, cope harder. Making excuses for a game developer. That would be exactly what that is.

[latent tulip]

Nah man just pretend he doesn't exist at this point he doesn't want to listen to other options and he just want to get people pissy.

[shy helm]

Shit, thinking fondly of game developers is making excuses

[compact pendant]

Best to just move on

[latent tulip]

Fr

[shy helm]

ah yes he be gone

moving on

[compact pendant]

Well, not because of us

[wise junco]

Back to the usual

When mp

[compact pendant]

42.8 when

[grizzled oasis]

When Mp

[shy helm]

you tell me

[compact pendant]

I'll roll the dice

[cunning delta]

build 2085.8 when

[latent tulip]

No no 43.90 when hmmm

[mortal kayak]

Are there going to be cluckers in 42.8?

[shy helm]

its coming boys, devs getting heated with excitement again just like with 42 unstable release

[compact pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/poul3-f-r3veil-p-gif-10988460833755738340

[shy helm]

roll the dice

[mortal kayak]

No, the cluckers that have cordieclops!

[latent tulip]

My dice just say 1 so what does that mean?

[compact pendant]

You will know eventually

[shy helm]

roll of 1 means 1 day

so tomorrow it is, confirmed by someone

[compact pendant]

Would they even be able to cluck

[latent tulip]

... no i don't think so there like a red laser coming through my windows I think i have a hour to live...

[compact pendant]

I don't think that'd be

r e a l i s t i c

[shy helm]

real assassins don't use laser beams to let you know theyre there duh

[cunning delta]

i am CEO of the indie game store

we release update tommorow

[mortal kayak]

They use the clucking to navigate! It's very realistic.

[compact pendant]

like ducks?

[latent tulip]

Maybe that what they want me to think you're one of them aren't you!!

[compact pendant]

how would funghi do that

[mortal kayak]

It's how cluckers are able to chase players after their eyes have gotten dried up or eaten by flies.

[shy helm]

Remember, duck quack does not echo, and science cannot explain it. Make sure you don't add duck quacking with echo into the game or its not realistic

[cunning delta]

will there be a orange raccoon like as a rare spawn in game

[shy helm]

goddamn it, I was wrong, I finally googled it after years of hearing about it

2003? when did I even hear about this

[compact pendant]

Until I hear the statement from the duck community, I will keep my opinion

[shy helm]

I'm guilty of misinformation campaign over decades

[candid orbit]

When nasKo is ready.

[compact pendant]

He always says he was born ready

[candid orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/super-smash-bros-mii-character-announce-e32014-gif-25697068

[cunning delta]

i think someone lied to you

[shy helm]

I literally posted that picture already

[cunning delta]

they def have an echo

[shy helm]

wait what, different pic

[cunning delta]

yes

this is the real one

[shy helm]

hard to focus on discording when playing Vintage Story with 1 life

[cunning delta]

is it any good? looks like fancy minecraft

[shy helm]

definitely better with realism into it. And I play a different game mode than normal, so no eldritch horror elements, just pure b42 approved survival

it started as Minecraft mod, became a standalone game

[cunning delta]

interesting

[glacial badger]

update the day before tomorrow, calling it now (i'm coping) (also vintage story is goated)

[shy helm]

Try finding some gameplay videos, thankfully, PrivateLime, along with his PZ craziness, he also enjoys VS

[latent tulip]

Then be ready send it out half baked right now. Don't let dreams be dreams

[compact pendant]

My mom did that and the end result wasn't pretty

[wind wigeon]

Are you aware that the game can be seen as finished basically when it is released and that every update (free on top of that) is literally a gift?

[latent tulip]

Hell don't even complie it just throw out lines of code at us

[shy helm]

is that why you ended becoming a graffiti vandal, spraypainting one of my first long-term bases ever with your name?

[latent tulip]

That was just a phase

[compact pendant]

IT'S NOT JUST A PHASE

[glacial badger]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-gato-com-franja-humor-gif-21713346

[plain moon]

Lmfao

[hidden urchin]

@compact pendant why your company gotta have more anticipated drops than rockstar?

We gonna get GTA VI before we get 42.8 😭

[shy helm]

GTA 6 just got delayed by a year

[plain moon]

Good

Let it get delayed till 2030

[shy helm]

they didnt wanna compete with PZ

[latent tulip]

Or maybe a another skyrim that your going to buy

[plain moon]

Based

[compact pendant]

You're probs not playing it on PC until 2027 or 2028

[plain moon]

Real

[compact pendant]

42.8 I mean

get rekt

[shy helm]

wtf

[compact pendant]

42.8 on switch 2 first

[shy helm]

with exclusivity deal ofc

[compact pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-dunking-on-spiderman-gif-26119954

[cunning delta]

42.8 releases today trust

[compact pendant]

Nah

[wise junco]

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

They're aging me up for real, I can already hear my bones creak

[cunning delta]

will my grandkids get to play it?

[compact pendant]

If you already have kids, there might be a chance

Otherwise it might be hard

[dense aspen]

aura

[cunning delta]

the hard way ig

[compact pendant]

Dangit

[cunning delta]

we can all play it in the nursing home when it finally releases in 2082

[compact pendant]

I'll be dead by then hopefully

[latent tulip]

Will it be out this month my dogs are crying

I doubt it will make them stop though

[compact pendant]

Send picture of the dogs crying

[cunning delta]

maybe theres a super good gaming PC with build 1.0 loaded in the afterlife

[hidden urchin]

Wtf that dogs depressed 🤣

[latent tulip]

You never said audio but you can pretend you can't hear them cryiny

[compact pendant]

That's just one dog

were you lying to us or is the other one depressed too

[cunning delta]

clearly he wants b42.8

[wise junco]

Looks more like he's judging you

[compact pendant]

dog just waiting for mp smh

bet if you say "treats?" his head will pop right up

[latent tulip]

This one stop crying because she watching the birds outside

[compact pendant]

awww

Cute dogs

[latent tulip]

Why thank you

My Doberman is still depressed

[compact pendant]

Why is one named Rocky and this ones got a number

[cunning delta]

Poor dog thinks 42.8 might be outside waiting for him

[compact pendant]

ah nevermind I'm dumb

[latent tulip]

Oh her name is Luna

[shy helm]

I have a picture of a Luna, too, disappointed at missing 42.8

[latent tulip]

May I see

Let get all the depressed luna in the chat

[shy helm]

This is Luna, when she heard about 42.8 not coming today, straight from nasKo

she is not yawning, totally very pissed off at TIS

[latent tulip]

My god that not sad that mad

[compact pendant]

shut it Luna, we're making it worth it ok

[hidden urchin]

Who is he shouting at?

[compact pendant]

(no mp tho)

[cunning delta]

bows???

[shy helm]

no mp before stable 42, nice

[cunning delta]

were gonna get bows and an endless void that eats old saves

[latent tulip]

Oh i see MP in b42.10 I get it i get it >:)

10 is two 5 which mean 2 players :)

[compact pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-thanks-nope-i-dont-think-so-gif-19621189

[cunning delta]

this is codeword for (no PM tho) meaning itll release in the AM with MP

[latent tulip]

That door won't hold me for that long I just come in from the vents

[shy helm]

This is Peanut, after she heard nasKo made Luna scream in agony

[latent tulip]

I got a gif of my dog having a tantrum

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/884914687500746763/1089959020124717218/ezgif.com-gif-maker-1.gif

[cunning delta]

the animals yearn for 42.8

[shy helm]

all the screaming souls of bunny families I ran over with a car in b42 demand vengeance, TIS' firstborn 42.8 patch

[cunning delta]

all the animals will storm the indie game store headquarters if its not released by 12 PM tonight

[shy helm]

my wife also felt nasKo's cruelty, so she made emojis out of the buns

[latent tulip]

I be there, I just wanna pet them all

[cunning delta]

yea someones gotta walk them all to the headquarters so they can bark through the glass

[latent tulip]

If my dogs there they be smudging all the windows

[shy helm]

nasKo ofc, who else is evil enough to give patch 42.8 Switch 2 exclusivity deal

[cunning delta]

switch 2 will run zomboid at 30 FPS

[latent tulip]

And it will cost 80 dollars

[cunning delta]

and every patch is paid DLC

[latent tulip]

Oh god

[cunning delta]

imagine they do that now

we wait for 42.8 to be met with a 10$ paywall

[latent tulip]

It the horse armor all over again

So did they say what b42.8 supposed to be?

[cunning delta]

im betting on bows

[shy helm]

I'm praying on bows

[latent tulip]

I would like bows

[shy helm]

stealth archer build legacy calls to me once again

[latent tulip]

I'm a goblin that like to sneak around and i would love some range weapon maybe a slingshot

[shy helm]

lootgoblin life best, I wanna steal loot and sneak it to my singular loot pile

[latent tulip]

No no you need more than one loot pile. If you go to your loot pile to many it might bring in hit and you will lose your loot pile safehouse

You must also fill it with rats. Kinda like a tomb with a snake trap but with rats

[cunning delta]

has anyone ever considered taking over muldragh motel? blocking off the back and front entrance and the outer windows

[candid orbit]

Let's goooooo ! 😄

[latent tulip]

I was thinking about it. I did take over the whole gated community there aswell

[cunning delta]

i did it in modded one time on b41, it worked pretty well

[latent tulip]

I turned a couple residential house into animal barns

[cunning delta]

only animal caring ive did was naming a sheep giselle and trying to take it home

i left it in a house to loot the neighborhood and never saw it again

[latent tulip]

Wow

I named a rat Timmy the 3rd and let it go into the woods each play through

[cunning delta]

sheep are so hard to find in the snow

they can just disappear into the woods

[plain moon]

Fuck yeah

I missed dog posting

[latent tulip]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/884914687500746763/1088489958517526559/ezgif.com-gif-maker.gif

[reef hill]

Oh we posting animals? These two (of three) are patiently waiting

[leaden whale]

Ok since this is about animals now here is my little one

[reef hill]

The third is putting on a play while he waits

🥰 look at all the cute fuzzballs

[royal urchin]

Mp tomorrow 🥺

[next cargo]

So when 42.8 release with fix low screen resolution ? @compact pendant

[latent tulip]

Why does he look like that

[reef hill]

Like he is putting on a play?

Or just the goofy look

[latent tulip]

The little goofy look I love it

[reef hill]

He is 100% goof

[remote lily]

Y'all think the next patch is going to be HUGEbig compared to the ones before?

[remote lily]

🥰

I would risk everything to boop that snoot.

[vernal topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/yuge-huge-donald-trump-gif-5521636960626661361

[vast willow]

The cat Heard Clean UI had an update clearly

[glacial badger]

Little Lady waiting patiently for b42.8

She will not break eye contact until it’s here

[reef hill]

He'd let you, probably the friendliest cat I have ever met, super social even with people he doesn't know

[crisp sparrow]

Here’s hoping 42.8 has mp

[latent tulip]

Hey mom i'm on camera

Maybe he lying hmmm

But really no mp most likely

Just listen to the frostpunk music it be vibing and i'm not saying that because my pc just randomly turned on with the sound track playing

[eternal field]

they stated they want crafting to be ready before mp even becomes a thing

lay off the hopium, its not good for you

[crisp sparrow]

Damn how much longer they need to get crafting ready

[latent tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

Is copium better?

[eternal field]

considering there's still quite a few trees to implement and functions straight up missing

[crisp sparrow]

Haven’t they already been working on that system for years already? These devs man

[latent tulip]

I mean we missing on the whole factory being able to function

[eternal field]

it wasnt just crafting that was worked on, animals, the "engine upgrade", new mapping possibilities

they aint exactly a large team, so you dont have everyone working on the same thing all the time

[latent tulip]

Lighting, and lore aswell don't forget that.

• don't they have a small group working on human npcs?

[eternal field]

i dont think so yet

[latent tulip]

I swear I heard something like that but it could haven't been one of my fever dreams

[crisp sparrow]

Smaller teams have done crazier things but whatever

[glacial badger]

i swear i heard the same thing somewhere

[eternal field]

might be already considering animals also use some pathing AI?

they did mention that they laid the groundwork for NPCs with animals

[latent tulip]

And larger teams done lame things like Microsoft with minecraft

[latent tulip]

Oh yeah I forgot about that isn't the AI of animals they have suppose to be temporary. They had a better one they want to use

[eternal field]

also, dont forget there's 3 different languages going on in zomboid

lua, java and whatever the crafting/item scripts currently use

[crisp sparrow]

What’s the last language? Swahili?

Release mp gdi

[eternal field]

once gabeN personally atest for you to have a backlog free steam library

[latent tulip]

I want b42.10 to be MP just because I said so

actually NO I WANT IT TO BE B42.69

[shy helm]

royalties for reposting my daughter Luna

she will herald the most cooked patch ever made

[eternal field]

inb4 its literally kitchen stuff

stationary mixer when

[dense aspen]

i already know what its gonna be

• its gonna be a patch
• its coming after 42.7
• fix bugs
• its not gonna be npcs
• its not gonna be mp

[shy helm]

but will it blend?

[stone echo]

wow this chat took a turn since i last looked

[hidden urchin]

didnt take a turn to MP tho

[stone echo]

reposting this image someone put in here a little while back

(no it is not real)

[shy helm]

not even grammatically correct fake, TIS would disappoint us with top tier english

[dense aspen]

thursdoids if they were evil and fucked up

[dark spade]

I pray that 42.8 has multiplayer 🙏

Let's have atheists praying too, just pray to the universe or whatever

🫡

[stone echo]

multiplayer is not likely until all of b42's major systems are in place 😔

[dark spade]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-probpem-frustasi-brokenhearted-coffee-gif-15105227

[coral oasis]

it's written by a child or someone with very bad english skills, the last sentence doesn't make any sense

[dense aspen]

Theres no mp in 42.8 yall they literally said it

[fossil ether]

Developers, don't ban me..

[reef hill]

I shall pay in parsley 🌿

[shy helm]

pay me with advice how to keep farming crops alive in b42 since they tend to die

[slate abyss]

i wonder what they are workin on now

[reef hill]

Water them

[broken maple]

I just read most of the unread messages in this thread and my favorite was Yup countering a great point with "Did I ask?"

[reef hill]

But don't over water them

[slate abyss]

this advice also applies to children

[reef hill]

True

[eternal field]

people tend to forget that there was once a time you got the game you bought and that was it

[shy helm]

I will not do such a thing, rain is my unpaid intern, and I only grow crops without maximum water limit

[eternal field]

are you making sure you plant in the right season?

if you read (literally, right clikc > read) the seed package you get told which season they best grow in

[shy helm]

I have not used farming even once in b42 yet, but at least crops used to die mysteriously no matter what you did, maybe thats fixed now 😄

[eternal field]

if you plant outside of those, they are "cursed" and have a high likelyhoold to just die

yeah that should have been fixed wiith one of the 42.x patches

i think it was 1 or 2

[zinc leaf]

People go a month without an update and they start accusing the devs for scamming them lmao wtf

[remote lily]

Stupidity is way too common. So are internet trolls who get their kicks out of spouting toxic nonsense.

[vernal topaz]

They should drop a fake 42.8 with like two lines that change the frequency of foraging tin cans

[remote lily]

[stone echo]

some plants function properly, some others can't fully grow because their growth times extend through winter and wind up dead thanks to that if i recall correctly

if you increase growth time sufficiently in sandbox i think it functions, though

[strange osprey]

It seems like The Indie Snails have gone weeks without a patch....

I wonder what happened after the back to back updates...

[cunning delta]

its almost like, just maybe, b42 isnt complete yet so their... working on it

[coral oasis]

some plants are winter growinng

[stone echo]

yeah, the winter-growing ones and the short-growth time ones early in the season are the ones that work by default i think

[coral oasis]

you need to watch out for poor and best month and anywhere in between, crops are ok

so

it's really to easy to level up metalworking

I've cracked parts of it 😉

1 iron chunk > forge 1 iron bar quarter
1 bar quarter > forge 2 forks
Smelt 2 forks > 2 iron chunks
2 iron chunks forge > 2 iron bar quarters
2 iron bar quarters forge > 4 forks
Smelt 4 forks > 4 iron chunks
Repeat. It's all in the forks 😉

[strange osprey]

idk man.... it seems pretty sus....

[eternal field]

they are secretly nerfing spiffo

they dont want you to know about it

[reef hill]

[cunning delta]

they are coding in MP but it has one line of code that prevents your account from using it

[lime beacon]

When B42 finally released but stable version?

[compact pendant]

When ready

[coral oasis]

ohh come one stahp with this, you've waited this long, you have both b41 mp and b42 sp to play, with mods, friends, etc

b42 you can co-op with a friend and use steam remote play

[wooden locust]

Be patient

And cope

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-neutron-cope-jimmy-neutron-cope-cope-lol-cope-and-seethe-gif-25698067

[lime beacon]

Hope they add Freeze Time & other Features for B42 Debug Mode

[next cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-angry-cat-funny-cat-memes-gif-14595486679217135725

[heady coral]

Is he siberian?

[reef hill]

he's a rescue, vet and I both think mainecoon tabby mix - he is a very large boy

[twin thorn]

I feel like nowadays we should congratulate people when they don't use AI to make something ...

[round knot]

Now we know that .8 doesn't contain MP, we now know that .8 contains everything but MP, and MP will come in .9/.10

[round knot]

I made this what the hell who saved it 💔

[cunning delta]

now anyone made it

[round knot]

I would piss myself laughing if this made it outside this thread

[round knot]

I'm an adult native English speaker thank you very much

[cunning delta]

why no period first sentence 💔

[round knot]

It was made in like 3 minutes and was supposed to be an obvious joke

[next cargo]

Tomorrow

[vernal topaz]

Fingers crossed the delay between patches adds bows

[remote lily]

Awh. Here's my own little turd:

He always tries to strike a pose when I lift up my phone to take a snap. I think he was a runaway model in a previous life.

[solid osprey]

Dat bully Maguire hair. 10/10

[buoyant widget]

https://tenor.com/view/bully-maguire-tobey-maguire-spiderman-spider-man-gif-17314168462344645084

[latent tulip]

I like that this chat has degraded to animal photos

[proud kite]

https://tenor.com/view/homem-aranha-tobey-maguire-bully-maguire-gif-24530055

[ivory bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/shocking-is-this-why-the-earth-spins-earth-spin-cat-gif-13056704822525175056

[coral oasis]

we love animals

all kind, except humans

[coral oasis]

sorry Billy but that's how it seems, even as a joke I still don't get that last sentence

[round knot]

If you don't speak English natively it might be a bit harder to understand, it's close to how we actually speak than how we write

[glacial badger]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-gif-19575284

[turbid crest]

i had a dream 42.8 came out last night

shame to see it was only a dream tho

[reef hill]

So handsome 😍

[reef hill]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

[toxic current]

Didnt they say mp is coming in unstable? Is that still a thing?

[shy helm]

that be what they said yes, no news on that front, unstable is still going for a while

[stone echo]

i really do wonder what it is that's going into this next update. i keep thinking every morning 'okay surely today is update day' but i've been thinking that for like, a week. it's getting to the point where i'd think multiplayer was plausible if a dev hadn't explicitly said it wasn't that

i hope they fix flour calories again, the most important change of all <3

[shy helm]

NasKo promised my bunny the wait would be worth it

[pine holly]

They said it was gonna be quicker since they no longer had to reconstruct the way MP works. Thats what they did for 41. But it’s almost been half a year now so, we don’t actually know anymore

but I guess all great things take time

[stone echo]

wasn't mp less a matter of getting it working, more a matter of not adding it until features are in place so they don't have to play the game of 'is this bug because multiplayer or because the system doesn't work'

[coral oasis]

I have 2 cats so ;)))

[coral oasis]

it is but when the systems are ready for it

and other features they got going

B42 still lacks the major stuff they were teasing us about like brewing, machinery, bows, challenge maps

the plumbing rework

and maybe and this can be debated, the electrical updates / reworks > watch December's video

[dense aspen]

b42 is a big update so things take time

i dont think thats a hard concept to grasp

[coral oasis]

it is

for most of the peeps here it is, people show up asking for mp, stable

[pine holly]

I wonder when water will get reworked

[coral oasis]

and it's only been 4-5 months since it released....

[coral oasis]

if you're serious, I have no answer, if that was a joke, it was a very bad one

[stone echo]

water could use a rework at some point honestly, it's a little odd that they're just solid walls to both you and zombies

[round knot]

he meant water tiles, makes more sense now

yeah would like to be able to swim once in a while

not wanting boat action though

[pine holly]

Serious. What a odd response

[pine holly]

yeah you can’t swim in it or use boats.

the game is fine without it but it’s always felt weird that water wasn’t really in the game

Other then blocks

[untold latch]

Most, if not all B42 updates dropped early in the week. If by Tuesday there's no update it's safe to assume that there won't be one that week.

[untold latch]

I honestly don't see that coming in the game at all. The amount of work to implement that in a realistic fashion (animations, making special tiles, define how quick one can swim, drowning/oxygen levels, clothing getting damp in the process etc.) is really not justifiable for a feature that is very situational and doesn't add much at all to the gameplay overall

[stone echo]

oh i figure going underwater wouldn't be a thing- surface swimming at best

[shy helm]

make water freeze over during winter temps

and walkable

[stone echo]

the rest of that is almost all in the game in some form or another, there'd need to be logic for getting into/exiting water but besides that framework is mostly present

in fairness it doesn't really freeze that thick in kentucky most of the time, especially in pz where dropping below freezing is very rare

which is kind of why winter is really not a threat in pz, kentucky is just a bit too far south to risk the extreme freezing cold

[untold latch]

It all comes down to a simple question: Why would devs spend their time to work on such a situational feature (not everywhere there's water nearby) that adds near to nothing to the overall experience? I'd think of it as a waste of time. Cool, sure. But still a waste of time

[stone echo]

eh, i don't quite agree on it adding next to nothing- there's quite a few tiny streams streaking through the map that you just cannot cross without building a bridge, and swimming would logically be a decent way to escape zombies. maybe even water foraging to a point, cattails and whatnot since those are edible

especially since with the b42 map update, there seems to be a bit more focus on having rivers, lakes, and ponds be much more common

muldraugh and rosewood are the only towns i can think of that have no water around at current, march ridge kinda sorta does

[untold latch]

I can think of at least a dozen things that require devs care more than this. This is a B52 feature. Maybe.

[stone echo]

yeah i do agree, it's not a priority by any means, but. yknow. sometimes it's nice to talk about theoreticals

not everything i talk about is 'this needs to be added immediately', heh

[untold latch]

absolutely, can be fun! Also, since boats were mentioned, they were already there in B41 via mod. So that's far more achievable

[stone echo]

b41 had a swimming mod as well i think, though i'm pretty sure it was suuuuper janky

[untold latch]

there's a few water related mods out there. There's one called moats that allows you to use water as a way to secure your base

[stone echo]

yeah, that was something that came to mind as well for practical uses of water/swimming

[untold latch]

yep. but you dont need a water tile ovehaul for that. You just need to set an action (digging) make a soil tile swap to a water one, provided that it's water adjacent.

part of me think it would fit well the nu-medieval vibe they're going for. Part of me thinks it's just cheesing the game 😅

[shy helm]

would greatly aid in the long-term gameplay. Security and realistic adaptation should not be ever called cheesing

[untold latch]

oh I agree. But have you ever tried to do a moat by yourself? It ain't exactly easy

since you bring up realism

[shy helm]

no but have you ever been in Finland, our apartment doors are so heavy it doesnt matter how many zeds bang them, they aint gonna crack em, thats realism here 😎

[untold latch]

certainly not with a shovel.... with a machine however...

[shy helm]

moat sounds too much work tbh

unless whoever stole all the industrial machinery in Kentucky returns them

[untold latch]

the whole water rework is

[shy helm]

well, at least letting us cross a small river without having to learn carpentry would be funny

very rare, astronomically rare occasion where player gets cornered by zeds in a tiny tiny water stream bend

and you can't cross that in any manner

[untold latch]

yep...which was my other point. it's very situational

[shy helm]

perhaps some water bodies could be leaped over, and when its too wide, the character would stop and do an animation that describes your character deciding against the jump in full speed

[untold latch]

eheh that would be cool to see

[shy helm]

kind of comical since the player is not in full control of the character, but then a compromise

[candid orbit]

Question: Are devs at PAX East?

[zinc leaf]

It's coming monday

[stone echo]

wochino's a spy from the indie game store impostors spreading tricks, trust me- it's coming out wednesday at 11:43PM PST

[glacial badger]

It’s coming the day after yesterday, trust

[round knot]

I trust grimmsly

[gaunt imp]

It’s coming out when

[dark spade]

wait where did they say it?

[eternal field]

just look at the message he responded too, maybe?

[cyan wigeon]

with the amount of time between, it would be reasonable to expect that 42.8 would break saves?

[remote lily]

Don't worry guys, multiplayer's coming out.

When it's done™️.

[twin thorn]

What even is up with this B42 multiplayer fixation? It's coming when it's coming, and it certainly will NOT come until all of B42's promised features are fully working in singleplayer

[dark spade]

probably

[dark spade]

its not a fixation. It's literally how most of gamers want to play. Don't you want to enjoy a game with friends? I don't get the hate MP askers get lmfao, its so unreasonable, especially since B42 has had delays

[cyan wigeon]

that actually makes sense from a design perspective.
I havent delved into the PZ codebase that much but i hear from a lot of people who do game networking is that it sucks to set up

[dark spade]

its not time to just hate on each other bruh, let's just understand that some players like solo, some like multiplayer

its not that hard to get it through your brain

[twin thorn]

I mean yeah, MP in and of itself is what this game needs so that people can enjoy it, together. I just can't see why it's needed now, when even singleplayer is unstable and gets new bugs/fixes basically every patch.

[north mica]

if a game isnt in a good enough state to be fully released with solo modes then it isnt good enough to be released for MP just yet smh

Waiter waiter i'd like 100 game breaking bugs from all the new patches that would go on top of the WIP multiplayer please!

[twin thorn]

It's not a matter of what state the update's in, it's a matter of separating singleplayer bugs from those that can pop up in multiplayer

[cyan wigeon]

doing a bit more thinking, it is better for the workflow to set things up to work in singleplayer first. Then when most of the intended content is out you can make it work with multiple clients in one swoop.

[twin thorn]

If MP gets released we'd have reports of something being broken that works 100% fine in SP but is completely broken in MP, for example

[cyan wigeon]

but at the same time you shouldn't expect the average player to understand why multiplayer isn't there yet. Because to the untrained eye it seems very simple

[dark spade]

Yes. I do agree, I don't think its safe to launch it on such a buggy unstable version, BUT the frustration is mainly how long the game is taking to come out properly for everyone to play together etc etc. B42 has already been delayed, and people are frustrated. I understand both sides but I think the playerbase in this case is more of in the right (Even tho its not reasonable at all to literally hate on devs and give them threats etc). Fact that its been in development for 4 years is insane, and I think its worth putting extra time in, especially since they profit mopre than any of us, and its fun for them, that's the whole point

[north mica]

MP yappers gotta yap

it took a long time for B41 as well so i dont understand the issue

[dark spade]

game's more popular now.

[north mica]

doesnt change a thing, same rules apply

[cyan wigeon]

when did the popularity spike come along? I joined late into B41

[cedar tapir]

When people ask every single day, get aggressive, and seemingly have never been taught patience.

I get being excited for things, and if you talk about being excited for it that's great, but continuously asking if it's out or getting shitty and impaientent means you're gonna get ragged on

[north mica]

once the game started getting more 3D and with the inclusion of B41 multiplayer i'd say that when it started getting popular the fastest

[dark spade]

Definitely does. From a business perspective, more demand, means more supply

[north mica]

that is really not relevant in this case lol

[cyan wigeon]

wasn't multiplayer in B41 entirely revamped?

[north mica]

there is not endless supply because of the studio's limitations

[dark spade]

Yes, you gotta be patient, but also gotta understand that most gaming companies do not delay when hype is built and thats why TIS gets hate and all these people chatting random shit

[dark spade]

Limitations? They have a networth of over 20 million tho

[north mica]

relatively small team, emphasis on crunch-free environment

Indiestone just has to learn to not hype up players at all when theres the slightest risk that they cant deliver with their promises soon enough

and be more communicative overall

[dark spade]

I think the big spike is B41 release

Also you can tell the spike downwards when B42 was delayed

[cyan wigeon]

oof

[dark spade]

also upwards when B42 unstable came out but didnt last long

[cyan wigeon]

for the old guard. How long did it take for multiplayer to come out in build 40?

[north mica]

wonder how many people here actually were around when build 40 was the latest 💀

[dark spade]

Long time, but thats when they had less people

[north mica]

back then the game also had way narrower feature/content scope

[cedar tapir]

That is a fair point, there is criticisms to be had about the wait time (have they ever explained that?)

Honestly I go by the idea that not only do I have no clue what's going on behind the scenes, I also don't really feel like I'm owed something?

[north mica]

they seemed to be expanding/branching out a lot so far

which isnt bad, seeing the direction the game is taking, but it means there's far more stuff to manage

[cedar tapir]

Like I have no clue about how the profit gain has influenced team size, and if they're trying to save alot of profit for personal use instead of a bigger team (obviously thats fair, but if theyre choosing to keep the majority of the increase instead of hiring more thatd be kinda weird) I'd hope they'd get a bigger team to maker things more efficiently

[dark spade]

They have explained it, but the thing is, it wasn't a totally reasonable reason. I believe from what I read in the delay blog post, it was just a "but the unstable build wasn't ready for public release due to existing bugs and gameplay elements that needed refinement"

[cedar tapir]

Not to mention 0 clue what the hell they need to worry about money wjse and just how much of that increase they're using and where

[dark spade]

They went from its " pretty much feature complete" to nah we delay cause of problems, which is fair enough

[cyan wigeon]

i am looking through the patch notes, Build 40 probably had multiplayer active the whole testing time.
but that was also the weather update.
Very different from the crafting update we are getting

[dark spade]

But you kinda gotta give more insight as to why?

[dark spade]

I believe unstable should have MP, because it could generally help them. But crafting and shit could be complicated, I mean 95% don't even use those features tbf but

I mean the 42.0 for example, that defo should not have MP, cause it would prolly be impossible lmfao

but I think we're at a point where its somewhat stable and any bugs can be reported.

[buoyant widget]

You can't know what's preventing them from releasing multiplayer. Also, multiplayer might not be as stable as you assume, because single player is quite different from multiplayer.

[dark spade]

really? damn

Thanks bro, really helped out there

[buoyant widget]

This is not to help anyone, but to remind you that we don't know whether multiplayer is stable enough or not. So to question the relevance of releasing multiplayer is pretty pointless.

But I don’t mind having pointless conversations.

[round knot]

MP will come in .9/.10

The only thing that's not MP (which it's not, confirmed by Devs) that could take this long would be the remaing features, being bows, machinery and the other missing bits and bobs

[wooden locust]

Bows....

My god

We are standing in front of the new era in Project Zomboid

[long prism]

when news

[mortal dagger]

Jesus leaving these chats for a few weeks just leads to the scummiest people complaining around here

Literally just go play other games in the meantime there are so many games to play

[toxic current]

they wouldn't ask if there were so many

[mortal dagger]

Well clearly they do

This may be shocking but PZ is not the only video game available to play

[round knot]

Paddlefruit when people are excited

[untold latch]

W take. I spent some time with 42.7, I dusted off The Long Dark and playing that before diving in 42.8 with a long term save

[untold latch]

Or even better, go touch grass!

[buoyant widget]

Rimworld / Factorio until 42.8

[nocturne marten]

they also should add the dead's pot plants

[terse cove]

Heresy

[vernal topaz]

I have thousands of hours with rimworld but found it hard to get addicted to again after the last DLC... just wasn't my vibe and so niche

[latent tulip]

Then like don't play that dlc?

I turned that off when I play a playthrough that isn't about anomalies

[kindred socket]

Just play ambient horror

Then it just comes on its own without being the focus. I found it much more fun that way

[icy parcel]

we either getting b42 stable when 42.8.0 comes out or at least multiplayer I hope because this is taking too long I just want play with my friends 😭

[shy helm]

no chance for the first, I also doubt MP would come

[wind wigeon]

It is confirmed that MP is not coming with 42.8

[eternal field]

i assume its stuff regarding the crafting system

[shy helm]

I sure hope NasKo was serious about that line since everyone takes it as confirmation 😄

[eternal field]

that last mratomicduck video did bring up a few good points about the UI

But I'm also not sure if the UI was intended to be this, it does seem very placeholder

[eternal field]

i honestly would be impressed if they pull a stunt and do release it after saying no

but i feel thats highly unlikely, lol

[shy helm]

NasKo would never lie to my daughter

[eternal field]

and we sadly cant spy on steamdb anymore, because steam changed things regarding private branches

[north mica]

why do bluds think that mp is coming within the few upcoming patches

that'd be like a few months at most which is a very short time

calm your expectations

[coral oasis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1311774499712274452/1317926995279089664/kZgmqy.gif

this MP stuff, is worse than when B42 last year

[cedar tapir]

Everyone who asks for mp gets their friends kidnapped on release

[untold latch]

yeah we should cut it. It's been 80% of the conversation for the past week... it's a tad silly, not constructive at all, and frankly it's getting boring to constantly read speculations about MP.

We should chat about the matters at hand, as in, the issues in the build we can play. Like the crafting system currently being an headache to engage with...

[north mica]

Unless there's official info about it you should assume the worst; MP not coming until close to next year

Now can we discuss stuff that actually matters?

[eternal field]

you can always write a forum post regarding suggestions/feedback around systems

it might go under in the discord itself, so having it collected in the forum can help

[untold latch]

Oh the devs know about that... It's an obvious critical point. And also, the likes of Atomic duck and co directly reached out to devs proposing changes to improve the crafting UI designs (he has a video about it too).

But talking about that in chat, actually discussing tangible improvements here rather than "MP when" or " Here's my baseless speculation on MP when" would be awesome, I think...

[coral oasis]

that video from Duck is sick

that build & craft UI by Rocco is better than what the devs have going atm

I hope it will be released as a mod in case the devs don't agree with any change to those UIs

same window for crafts and builds with nice respect to categories and imputs, tools

[untold latch]

Absolutely. But honestly, we shouldn't just hope on modders to fix a cornerstone feature of a build. We should lobby for the devs to listen to the feedback and act upon it. It's the main feature of the build, we are in unstable. The time to course correct is now

[coral oasis]

they have forwarded the ideeas and feedback to the developers

so they know about that vid

[limpid sail]

[untold latch]

yeah I think that all suggestions in that vid are valid. The simple fix of not letting the menu go back to default when closing and re opening, a very simple tweak, would be game changing

[limpid sail]

atleast give us bows&arrows

[untold latch]

yup... That would be an excellent 42.8. I would not mind that being the main thing of the new patch. I don't care about MP at this stage, I don't care about brewery or any more content. Right now, I care about having what we have being functional, viable and fleshed out

[coral oasis]

that's maybe for stable

shader caches updated recently so maybe a patch is nearby

we shall see

[untold latch]

what is that and how do you see it?

[coral oasis]

shaders are programs compiled from a source code that optimize GPU performance by storing the results of GPU rendering for later reuse

check steam recent donwloads next time

[coral oasis]

yes, they stated that bows are at the back of the queue and here we are

[tawdry storm]

Hope TIS can release 42.8 soon. Many mod authors are also want to know the direction of future updates so they can decide whether it's the right time to develop mods for certain features.

[untold latch]

I take it that means the devs haven’t responded to your suggested UI redesign yet, which is a bit disappointing. Hopefully it won’t come to that, but it’s reassuring to know that talented modders like you have a backup plan ready for us to enjoy if needed.

[humble onyx]

Maybe we can reach 5000 messages here before that happens

[untold latch]

Half of it being "MP when" and the likes 😅

[coral oasis]

if they don't make any changes to those UIs, I hope you will finish that new UI concept, it's very nice

congrats on the Clean UI and Hotbar mods, now I can never go back to vanilla ;))

[tawdry storm]

I believe the dev team is already aware of these issues,I don't think they would just ignore problems that many players are complaining about. I also hope the UI concept design doesn't put any pressure on them. It's easy for me to come up with multiple design concepts, but implementing all these suggested improvements isn't a simple task for devs, and they likely have their own plans as well.

[coral oasis]

I don't think it will put any pressure on them but it opens up a space for improvement and seeing how those UIs will be used intensely they need more work

the minimum values, for instance, is still too high regarding width and height, takes up too much screen and I'm on 4k 32' inch

[latent tulip]

There will be no MP in b42.8

I just realized that was yesterday oopise

[eternal field]

i think he got the hint after the 20th time someone said it, lol

[crisp sparrow]

mp not coming out til b43

[latent tulip]

Nuh uh it coming out in b69 since you need two players for such a thing

[eternal field]

didnt you mean b420?

[latent tulip]

Nah b420 is just where they gonna add a lot of drugs

Aren't we able to grow weed right now?

[eternal field]

yknow what, that together with a reworked medical system would actually be pretty darn impressive

[latent tulip]

Or was it just tobacco

[eternal field]

i think only tabacco officially

but there will be mods with weed in no time, lol

[latent tulip]

I just remembered reading a magazine for season and it was called legalized it

[eternal field]

wait

I'm gonna start the game now I'm doubting myself

[latent tulip]

I found it in the drug den In muldraugh I also found like 3000 dollars and suspicious package(probably coke) and hazmat suit. While the house itself had an assault rifle, how to make a bomb magazine and bulletproof amor.

[crisp sparrow]

indie stone should hire me, i'd have crafting, mp, and the new romance system rolled out in a week TOPS

[rotund star]

no
adding weed is more of a pain than its worth and best left to mods, countries can be really testy about it (like Australia banning the weed mod for minecraft lol)

[eternal field]

there is a legalize it magazine

[latent tulip]

So that legalized magazine was probably for tobacco

[eternal field]

but its for hemp, which is technically related to canabis

[latent tulip]

Oooohh

[eternal field]

and certain industries (including tabacco and cotton) lobbied HARD for cannabis to be banned, including hemp too

so hemp was underutilized even with it being a pretty neat material, making for a good, fast growing textile because of the "devils lettuce" fear, which is ironic because textile hemp has pretty much no THC, i assume the magazine name is a nod to that little not-so-fun fact

[latent tulip]

That pretty cool

I suck with all type of plants and pz literally got me interested in learning the growing season for plants lol

[eternal field]

time for a smol home garden!

the issue i have with farmnig is i always end up planting too much, not being able to really use the produce ingame, but at least i got enough compost, so yay?

[latent tulip]

I'm basically the grim reaper with plants my mother won't let me near her plants since I kill basically anything I touch

One of my friends got me a plant and I thought it was plastic and it survive for months until they told me it look healthy and surprised that it still alive. I then basically waterboarded that plant and killed it in a week

And the same thing goes with pz for me lol

My plants in this game is always diseased and dying

[eternal field]

Plants have different water needs, you can see it exactly in debug, but if I remember correctly you can also later on see it with high farming level

And for real life it's generally just reading up on the specific plant, treat em like they're individuals, each plant species has its own specific needs in terms of nutrients, water and soil needs, effectively just like a animal, just slightly simpler for most plants

[spiral tinsel]

I mean idk, Minecraft is far larger than zomboids ever gonna be

And games like schedule one exist

[rotund star]

sure sure, but that comes with the territory
its just a risk for zomboid and one that doesn't really impact the vision of the game

and the size of the game doesn't neccesarily mean they wont get unlucky with a countries classification system

[cunning delta]

Will zomboid ever get functioning television

Like with voice acting and video on the screen

[velvet pond]

i don't think it would be worth the trouble

[gaunt imp]

But it would be epic

[dense aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/kingpin-click-wait-spiderverse-gif-1263467286657666239

[limpid sail]

maybe

[leaden whale]

I think there is a mod for what your wanting. Good for the immersion for your future playthroughs.

[cunning delta]

might check it out sometime tyty

[humble onyx]

Ok if we're talking about mp, then I'll throw my hat into the ring. Starting off with this, if 42 stable multiplayer were to come out, what would the first thing servers would experience aside from a influx of players, but the new features in 42?

I think it would be the massive amount of roadkill personally

[north mica]

i believe the consensus was precisely to stop discussing mp

[ivory bobcat]

mod

[latent tulip]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2950750587

Here the mod they don't have everything voiced yet. But the automated broadcast is voiced

And a couple of the tv channels and news channels

[ivory bobcat]

theres another for visuals

[latent tulip]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3420581050 is this it?

[cunning delta]

thank you this looks similar to what I was thinking itd be like

[ivory bobcat]

bingo

[velvet hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hate-mouse-eat-gif-15496716735261506880

[hidden urchin]

Server crashes due to exponential chicken breeding

[sinful pilot]

[gaunt imp]

There’s so many that they turn into black sprites like the zomboids

[stone echo]

update tomorrow trust

[north mica]

copium

[shy helm]

update without MP and we shall have infinite salt for our cooking endeavours

[eternal field]

there just wont be any more drinking water after that

[reef hill]

I love water

[coral oasis]

It will rust you, try alcohol

[shy helm]

welp I died in a cave in, in Vintage Story, time for PZ patch

[coral oasis]

time for cooking at TIS

[next cargo]

Cek steam

[ancient scaffold]

the devs about to hit us with fully polished wolfs and bears

https://tenor.com/view/copium-gif-766857345458198993

[craggy nest]

42800 comments and TIS relising an update

[vernal topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/today-yay-gif-25615367

[next cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/bravo-gif-gif-8524601943548603280

[north mica]

[solemn breach]

Is this ufficially confirmed?

[shy helm]

no, the opposite is what has been said, but no clue if it was a joke or not 🙂

[solemn breach]

Ok, thank you 👍

[tough lantern]

May I know when the 42nd version of multiplayer will be released? It's not an exact schedule, but it's about this year or next year. I want to refer to it in creating the mode.

[shy helm]

this year 2025

should take less than with B41 MP, so less than a year. Ergo, it should logically be released before december

[tough lantern]

I hope it's sometime this year. lol

On the other hand, I hope it will be delayed due to the speed of mode development. XD

[shy helm]

We shall see what we even get for the next patch, and when

[cyan wigeon]

remember that multiplayer was entirely reworked in B41

[dense aspen]

[velvet hemlock]

See you next week

[limber pelican]

Update is in exactly 4 weeks

[gaunt imp]

Tomorrow

Just trust me

[dark spade]

🤡

[sinful pilot]

I will take everyone to Denny's if this is true

[candid orbit]

Waffle House is where it's at.

[sinful pilot]

I agree heavily but I am too far north for them 😭

[candid orbit]

IHOP is another good choice

[sinful pilot]

Fr

[strong wedge]

Pile O’ Crepe Pancake House is superior

[dark spade]

don't fucking say that, you'll be cooked

[vernal topaz]

Which Dennys we meeting at

[sinful pilot]

We gotta find whatever one is in the middle of the us

[gaunt imp]

There’s a dennys in Louisville

[reef hill]

[amber marten]

gimme a thursdoid, why so quiet

[candid orbit]

Because Thursdoid paused.

[stone echo]

advanced machinery update tomorrow 100% no lies

my uncle works at the indie game store trust

[amber marten]

Well yeah, but give me a thursdoid. It's been so long without communication. Is making a quick little post really such a detractor from dev time? They should already have a list of what they're working on internally.

If we got an update every two weeks, sure I could see it being unreasonable. But right now we're all guessing in the dark and building up higher and higher expectations for 42.8.

[north mica]

"Welcome to today's thursdoid. Due to the new unstable patch taking longer than expected, we feel it is appropriate to let you know what is currently being sorted out.

1. X
2. Y"
   The end

would've been enough to me

[amber marten]

Exactly! and then you'd also know it would be a waste to make a mod that has anything to do with pottery because they're focused on overhauling pottery in 42.8.

[strange osprey]

Ha! Youre bald!

[coral oasis]

Patch notes do the talking

[amber marten]

Patch notes talk about what has happened, not what is planned to happen.

I just don't get that logic.

Thursdoids and patch notes are two very different things. Patch notes 'doing the talking' would only make some sense if we got formal consistent weekly patch notes.

[stone echo]

i don't think it's necessary by any means and i feel a proper thursdoid wouldn't be needed, admittedly i do think a small little announcement saying 'hey we're working on x and y, theorise away about how this will interact with current mechanics while you look forwards to the update' wouldn't be a bad move for updates that take significantly longer than other ones

[amber marten]

Yeah just a informal little update that even circulates around from discord to reddit. Somewhat similar to Helldivers dev communications. Like I'd take "You'll shit your pants!" for 42.8 rather than nothing.

[stone echo]

we did get something along those lines, actually

[amber marten]

Ooh interesting?

[stone echo]

it's somewhere in this chat a ways up, it was basically just 'we're cooking up something that shouldn't be a disappointment' or something like that

let me try to find it

[stone echo]

up here

so, yknow, super vague but something at least

also confirmed it to not be multiplayer a message later

[amber marten]

Ahh thanks! that'll give me a good amount of patience until Friday or so lol

Wish I knew if I should shit my pants or not tho tbh

[stone echo]

probably a wise decision in many situations i think

holding out hope that welding and electrical might get to be useful by having advanced machinery be added 🤞

arc welders and vending machines and maybe even some manufacturing equipment until the power goes out

[coral oasis]

thursdoids are dev blogs where they tease stuff that's very WIP and far away so I don't understand what do you want them to tell you in these blogs now when 42 is in unstable and they have been delivering stuff every 2 weeks or so

[coral oasis]

it's everything we need from nasko, he just said the wait is worth it so wait for it

[stone echo]

yeah, i know, trust me i'm not one of the feral and demanding for content ones

mostly here to levy my criticisms and theorise on what's to come :)

[shy helm]

Luna cant find the patch

[stone echo]

it must be located eventually 😔

[amber marten]

You don't understand that anyone is interested in what IS has been working on since 42.7 came out 5 weeks ago? 🤔

[amber marten]

All good to be fine with with patient blind faith, but if there's anywhere to discuss an alternative to having no communication, I'd think it would be here.

All I'm saying is that a high-level bullet point list of what they're working on every month would be dope to see. A thursdoids format isn't written in stone. You can call it a fridoid if that makes anyone feel better.

Guarantee they already have this info on the team, cuz if they don't, that's unlike any organization I've ever worked in.

[coral oasis]

dude if you're sad about FIVE weeks of waiting it's a you problem

[glacial badger]

I think people are allowed to have expectations when one patch has double the wait time of others

[north mica]

theres not many things worse than not communicating enough with the playerbase

you have every right to be frustrated/annoyed tbh

[hallow vale]

I dunno the doomery I am reading at places definitely feels unwarranted and way overboard

it's a beta that maybe 5% of active players are even playing and some want minute details on every move

it's especially unreasonable when I can't think of any other game doing what people are saying they want IS to do

not saying I wouldn't like an update either but it's hardly been enough to warrant the doom and gloom

my limit is tomorrow

tomorrow I riot

[north mica]

there is a bomb in my intestines

[hallow vale]

a couple weeks ago there was a leak but I forgot what was in it

some american streamer I think but a quick discord search came up empty

[humble onyx]

I didn't know this, but you can sniff correction fluid from the start of 42

[blazing sandal]

theres like a billion things worse in the world than that

gamers tend to be high maintenance but zomboid gamers are probably in the top tier within that

just chill and let them work

[north mica]

I meant it in the context of stuff game-
development related, that much shouldve been clear

[fringe haven]

There are ongoing game development projects that are so much worse than PZ. You can be reasonably certain that, whether they're doing it as efficiently as possible or not, or in the exact way you think they should or not, Indie Stone is grinding 24x7 on PZ. I paid money for so many unfinished games that I'm pretty sure no one is actually working on at all

[glacial badger]

I don’t think anyone made the argument that the devs weren’t working their assess off. And “other games are worse” doesn’t mean shit lol.

God forbid someone ask for a bit of communication (which we did get so yippie!)

[mortal kayak]

I think there's some mechanism where spending a bunch of time on social media tends to drive people into spirals of worrycrafting.

[glacial badger]

Some people need to touch grass fr

[mortal kayak]

Some sort of "self stimulation by worry dopamine"

"Oh gosh, I'm so out of sorts with all of this worry that's been haunting me!"

[eternal field]

Also, the example with Helldivers "shit your pants" is probably a pretty bad example

considering the CM was witch hunted for it afterwards because people were misunderstanding that the actual update was meant, not just the Warbond.

[tacit garnet]

Dont feed the trolls hehehe just block them.

[cyan wigeon]

fuck it i aint waiting no more, broken savefile be damned

[tacit garnet]

Im 99% sure anyone calling the devs lazy is unemployed and prob living with parents

[buoyant widget]

I have as much respect for these people as I do for those who make comments like yours.

[shy helm]

humans wired to routines, if routines change, berserker rage

[next cargo]

Try to check info in steam

[tacit garnet]

They will grow up eventually

[north mica]

you didnt get it did you

[stone echo]

i do think that part of the reason people get so antsy for updates right now is that since saves tend to break with updates, nobody wants to start a new save and risk it getting borked a few days in. updates were relatively consistently 1-3 weeks apart before, but at this point we have no idea if it could be any day now so it feels like a bad idea to start a new save

word salad'd a bit but that's my two cents: if you ended a save two, three weeks ago you might've been waiting since then for the update since there was no sign that this one would be longer, and zomboid devs aren't fond of giving timing stuff out (which is valid but does hurt this one specific issue a bit)

[north mica]

they dont even need to say any deadline 😭 literally just let us know whats currently being worked on
it doesnt need to be a 3-paragraph professionally written post, we dont care about that at this current time, we just want to know the process

[cunning delta]

yea currently ive waitiing to see if my save breaks before I continue playing too much

[glacial badger]

this is the thing for me. i've been waiting weeks to play zomboid because "any day now" the update will drop and break my saves lol

[stone echo]

honestly i'd love just a 'it will be less than/over a month' so as to know whether starting a new save file should happen

[hushed thorn]

That happened with the last update. After waiting for a while I started grinding out blacksmithing and the day I logged on with a full setup there was an update that broke my save.

[round flame]

Can someone send a reply to the msg at the very top?I'm on mobile

[solid osprey]

No

[cunning delta]

https://tenor.com/view/yellow-emoji-no-no-emotiguy-no-no-no-gif-gif-9742000569423889376

[dense aspen]

[gaunt imp]

[spiral hornet]

Update when™️

https://tenor.com/view/cant-take-anymore-gif-12350761

[gaunt imp]

0.823737288182 miliseconds

[south lagoon]

They literally had their code stolen early early in development, the tight lipped approach from them seems very fair

[vernal topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-out-loud-laugh-ridiculous-hilarious-lolz-gif-17376550074772904877

[wooden locust]

You all need some

[amber marten]

Excellent communication lol

[solid osprey]

Thank you!

[amber marten]

You all are doing good work. I'm just adhd and impatient. Do your thing. If you can't post a little update, it is what it is I suppose. 👍

But ima be mad disappointed if 42.8 doesn't include different tire sizes or some other tool for KI5 to make glorious vehicles with. 😘

[amber marten]

Everything is fair and they don't owe us anything of course.

Doesn't stop me from wanting a little update to tide me over and know why this one is taking a bit longer and when the very rough ETA is. I love PZ and love making mods. More knowledge about the game makes me a better modder. Atm everyone's speculations are going wild anyway and if this update takes long enough, people will start expecting flying pigs imo.

[iron hornet]

3430.3h in and I still love this game. I now have even more hours in this than in TESO.
I'm antsy for any updates too but the Devs know what they doing and I bet they be cooking up something nice for 42.8, especially if it takes a lil longer...

All we can do as players is chill for the moment. They wont leave us updateless forever

[amber marten]

"I bet they be cooking up something nice for 42.8, especially if it takes a lil longer..."

Exactly lol let's hope it lives up to the building hype

[fresh abyss]

Tracking rework maybe?

[coral oasis]

!heli

[deep snow]

https://media.giphy.com/media/mBaNKEmk9SUKs/giphy.gif

[iron hornet]

Even if its nothing super-special and just bugfixes, itll be good. I'm hoping for things like making wellwater clean or fixing that possessed horsetrailer or fixing the towing of vehicles generally, adding (farm)animal spawns in the wild within presets like 6Monts later or CDDA, adding to the crafting or building, etc... there is still so much to be done.

Right now B42 is in unstable for a reason and imo any step towards stable is great work by the devs, no matter what it looks like.

Cause I tried learning Lua and coding myself... and its complicated.

[lucid sentinel]

Devs take your time. I’ve been following this game since I saw sips playing it on an evening with sips back in 2012. Every update is worth the wait. Be patient the meal is always delicious

[deep snow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1079967390957305857/1079987264316252220/unknown-277.png

[kindred socket]

Whose hana

[latent tulip]

This is how i'm waiting for b42.8

[candid orbit]

What if Project Zomboid does this in Build 43? This would be an amazing game....

https://www.ign.com/articles/hideo-kojima-has-an-amazing-idea-for-a-forgetting-game-where-the-main-character-gradually-forgets-important-information-and-abilities-if-you-take-too-long-a-break-from-playing

[latent tulip]

bro gonna make it that each irl day your guy gets older and older so after like 80 irl day your guys just dies

[candid orbit]

No, your character won't die like that. Your skills will just degrade, and you need to re-exercise to gain back your lost Strength and Fitness.

[ivory bobcat]

dont give them ideas

[candid orbit]

Too late.

[coral oasis]

this would be sick !

[stone echo]

doesn't strength/fitness xp already slowly decay? it did in b41 at least, don't know if they've removed it

i remember it being really annoying at lvl 10 str/fit because you'd constantly lose a single xp point, drop to level 9, then immediately regain the point and hit level 10 again and trigger the level up sfx

[eternal field]

would you even life long enough to forget a skill

[wise junco]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-sponge-bob-flabby-gif-12430452

John Zomboid the millisecond he stops his pushups

[coral oasis]

I believe it does in 41

in 42 I haven't reached lvl 10 str, didn't play that much

[cunning delta]

it does, sometimes my character will wake up lvl 9 on the stats then when I run around or do something it usually quickly goes back to 10

[sterile karma]

waiting for b42.8 day 198

i cannot remember my wifes face

[wooden locust]

Cope

And embrace the wait

[sterile karma]

i dont mind it

[wooden locust]

[sterile karma]

it gives me more time to work on my gunmod anyways

[wooden locust]

Getting it out or just updating it?

[sterile karma]

[sterile karma]

#1369680317492756611 WIP still

[wooden locust]

Hell yah

[sterile karma]

still got 3 vanilla caliber guns to do and like, a bunch of attachments and stuff

why shouldnt i duct tape a hand torch to my gun?

https://tenor.com/view/sly-smile-got-em-smirk-evil-smile-gif-16501976

who cares about the ergonomics its LIGHT!

( really really important for 42 )

[magic pawn]

Me

[vernal topaz]

I got a fever, and the only prescription, is 42.8

[ebon pivot]

Do you think we'll get motorcycles and bicycles soon (the code is practically already there) so will we get them in b43 or b42

[north mica]

that would be a major addition so we'd already know about it by now

def not B42

[ebon pivot]

i think the only thing we'll get in b42 will be horses ngl

i bet they'll save bikes for b43

dogs seem to be pushed back

we'd have seen atleast a teaser of dogs by now if they were going to be apart of b42

i just really want motorcycles so we can cosplay the saviors!!!!

the biker gang aesthetic is so underutilized in PZ

[north mica]

not even horses

[ebon pivot]

do you think b42 will introduce high tech rat milking?

[north mica]

we got cows already

[ebon pivot]

But rats

[humble onyx]

4800 texts

[stone echo]

oh hey, i never shared this in here- this is a screenshot from the steam store page for zomboid. look closely at it, see if you can figure out what's strange about it:

[latent tulip]

They have that thing j uses to charge batteries

Which isn't base game

[stone echo]

exactly, this screenshot is super modded

almost certain that red dumpster in the back and a few other tiles are non-vanilla too, and i suspect the map area itself isn't a vanilla locale though i'm not certain

[latent tulip]

I think that fine the game wouldn't be this big without the modding community

[latent tulip]

It not vanilla i never seen that in base game and I have explored like 89% of the whole map

[stone echo]

i mean yeah it's not a big deal or anything, i just thought it was amusing when i realised whoever was grabbing marketing screenshots was playing modded

the pickup on the left side has mirrors too, where the one to the right is a vanilla truck without- the trailer in between is modded as well

[round knot]

STILL no .8? map expansion containing the observable universe incoming

[gaunt imp]

Entirety of Kentucky mapped in .8

[cunning delta]

PZ moon + space station map coming

astronaut zombies

[round flame]

Omnimaaaan

[magic pawn]

My house located in Frankfort is mapped in .8 bro i know it

they even gonna add the 1:1 tiles for my bedroom they’re creating custom tiles for my plant stand as we speak

[cunning delta]

theyre adding my house in Stanford Kentucky as we speak aswell

ima base in my own house

[magic pawn]

you getting custom tiles?

[cunning delta]

yea L shaped desk tile forsure

[magic pawn]

Oh? No? You’re not getting custom tiles? DIDNT THINK SO

oh

[cunning delta]

lol

[gaunt imp]

Any second now

Aaaaaaaaaany second now

[shy helm]

intrusive thoughts are grinning at the potential of not getting MP next patch, just to see the angry reactions

[remote lily]

[stone echo]

it's 100% not mp, according to a dev

[south lagoon]

which means it is

[amber marten]

I have patience. I have patience. I have patience. KI5 updates some more cars to b42 today, thank God for him and keeping me entertained with the new/shiny.

Ooh shit he already updated 10 minutes ago with the new plastic molding system!

Devs please keep giving KI5 new tools/mechanics to play with. He's amazing.

I'd have lost interest without him long ago tbh. 42.9 should just be a 'KI5 Appreciation Patch'

[broken maple]

That is also not a vanilla location

[solid osprey]

No

[pliant zealot]

bro acting like we have a working roadmap for upcomming features 😄 delulu

[raw wind]

if its not a simple farm animal or simple wild animal it will require the build 43 advanced AI. Dogs will require that for vanilla since they are more complex than simple animal AI.

[ebon pivot]

Dogs n horses are for sure coming but yeah i think b43 makes more sense

Ur right since b43 will lay the groundwork for npcs in general i think for content they’ll give us dogs and horses until b44 to hold us over

Would be nice to get swimming in b43.

And water visual overhaul rn water looks so outdated compared to the lighting

Just some basic foam and transparency on the water would improve it

Id like to see some reflections tho

A reflection update would be beautiful

Working mirrors and water and slight window reflection

so much immersion would be added by this

And if done correctly it wouldnt hurt the games visual style at all

[ebon pivot]

Just seeing a zombies reflection in glass when ur viewcone is forward would be aweskme

[ebon pivot]

THE POLISH ARE INVADING IN B48

[cunning delta]

[shy helm]

winged hussars confirmed, paid horse armor DLC for PZ

[ebon pivot]

skyrim ahh dlc

[south lagoon]

excuse me sir, but where are you seeing this? is that getting live updated, that arrow wasn't there last i saw

[cunning delta]

not live updated as far as ik, I seen this image quite a long time ago and saved it

[shy helm]

its not updated at all

[cunning delta]

but it is fairly close to supposed completition

[shy helm]

old ass picture reference with no real meaning or indication of timeframes

[south lagoon]

regardless this man has commited shameful conduct

[pliant zealot]

"working"

[cunning delta]

its a roadmap, is this not a roadmap?

[pliant zealot]

me or kafka? 😄

[pliant zealot]

again "working"

[cunning delta]

yea but wdym by working, this does show the upcoming stuff

[shy helm]

it is a working roadmap, a rough one, but the current direction of the coming builds are there

[south lagoon]

what isn't "working" about it

[shy helm]

it's just not interactive to show exact progress bar between builds because giving ETAs to this crowd of players is crazy

[cunning delta]

you might be confusing road map with like constant development updates

[pliant zealot]

nope ive meant a working roadmap for dev updates we have thursdoids.

[south lagoon]

what doesn't work about this roadmap?

[cunning delta]

again, what is not "working" about this roadmap?

[pliant zealot]

dont need to be interactive but a slight timeline would be great, and some details 😛

[shy helm]

Last time there was a more exact timeline, it backfired because a delay happened and people started being horrible about it

[south lagoon]

a roadmap doesn't need timelines and deadlines to be a roadmap, that would just make it a deadline map, or better yet, a calander lol

[pliant zealot]

i know, but not all people are the same. but i get what u mean

[pliant zealot]

thx for your oppinion 😗

[shy helm]

Build 41 is the current official PZ version, build 42 is just a beta but people act like its the official standing version of the game and get antsy when it doesn't give everything that was announced in short timeframe

[south lagoon]

its not my opinion brother, you can search it up for the facts yourself, noones impressed by someone who can't admit their wrong lol

[pliant zealot]

people acting like this because of promises that wont be kept lul dont act knighty because you dont like what others say

[shy helm]

It was never promises, it was an ETA, estimated time of arrival. Estimated. Not promised.

[pliant zealot]

thx bro have a nice day 🙂

[south lagoon]

this is ragebait at this point, dont bat an eye at him

[shy helm]

same, enjoy Enshrouded, it too is a great game you can play while waiting for build 42 patches

[pliant zealot]

cringe bro

[shy helm]

Why play a cringe game?

[pliant zealot]

just because you raging gingee dont think other do 🙂

[pliant zealot]

have nice day

[shy helm]

Already said it, kind of cringe bro

[south lagoon]

he's just a narcissit, please ignore him, you're feeding his weird ego bs

[shy helm]

pre-teens gotta have their self-validation

[south lagoon]

any is better than none for their like, just ignore them outright brother

[shy helm]

easy come, easy go, like with anyone joining PZ discord just to shit on TIS

[south lagoon]

they're hardy its fine, anyway

i'm praying for something in the way of splitscreen fixes

[tacit garnet]

Im too busy either working or playing PZ to have time to complain and cry about development of my favorite game ever

[amber marten]

This feels like a made-up narrative. People can express their opinions even if they differ from yours. It's easy for people who sit in this thread to gang up on hot takes.

[shy helm]

they can, but most of the time those opinions are so rock-solid that they tell anyone disagreeing to "cope harder", thats not how arguments work

just coming to a place of discussion to flamebait or otherwise repel any counter-arguments is sure a weird stance

[amber marten]

Just saying we don't needa trash on the man in concerto

[shy helm]

if a said man in concerto outright denies the proper meaning of words, we used to call them "trolls"

Constructive criticism has always been welcome

[amber marten]

I've always found that the term 'constructive criticism' is highly subjective.

[shy helm]

"Indie Stone sucks" = great, an opinion has been told - now how does this suggest an alternative or start a meaningful discussion?

"Feature X could be different, a solution Y could possibly make it better" = constructive criticism

If you say PZ is too slow in development, it doesn't really change anything and the same discussion is happening every now and then here, usually doesn't result in anything positive. Not much developers can say about that, they're not sorry for doing things at their own pace, without crunch time as has been said before.

And making outright lies about "promises", starting a discussion based on a falsehood is never gonna lead anywhere

[knotty ermine]

ratio

[magic pawn]

which one?

[shy helm]

according to this little funny exchange we had some days ago, but I wouldn't take that as a foolproof statement...but then I think there's been more implications of MP not being in the next patch

also few messages after the one you quoted is also a "no"

[magic pawn]

Lol

[shy helm]

That be a "no" from two different developers, take it as you will, but also brace for impact when people will find out that no, in fact means no

[ebon pivot]

I think b43 will probably release next year ngl i doubt it’ll take as long as b41-b42 has

they layed so much groundwork for b43 already that the updates will for sure speed up

If anything i see b43 only taking 2 years if it gets delayed due to the devs needing a rest

[shy helm]

Literally everyone will indeed hope you are right

[ebon pivot]

B42 is more or less a groundwork for all the future updates

It implemented so many systems but didnt add features for them all yet

It only makes sense.

[shy helm]

It would be dreams come true

I would choke on my drink if B43 unstable would casually drop in 2026 or even 2027

PZ is like The Truman Show, we get to see Indie Stone members age and grow in real time across decades

While the Jim Carrey of TIS is starting to notice theres no 42.8.0 patch and tries to get to it

[ebon pivot]

I think the next patch will just be a big one

[shy helm]

And I hope it will include bows

[ebon pivot]

I forgot bows are coming

I love bows omg ellie last of us build soon!!’

[solid osprey]

No means no, I have no idea why people would think any different

[ebon pivot]

Bow n arrow with a pipebomb attached to the arrow

Last of us explosive arrow style.

[ebon pivot]

Tbh nvm

Weight of the pipebomb would make the arrow too heavy

[mortal kayak]

I was watching splorgieporgies stream and they said that another streamer said they had played the patch with multiplayer and then the multiplayer fell out of the patch and looked at me!

[ebon pivot]

Think a whistle arrow would be cool tho

Shoot an arrow with a whistle attached to make a loud whistle sound that attracts zeds to where it lands

Or like a firecracker arrow that when it hits the ground the firecracker goes off makes a bang sound

Could be used for luring zeds to a specific locations

[solid osprey]

People lying on the internet? How's that even possible?

[south lagoon]

Ironically its possible the way that its possible you are doing the same 🤔

[mortal kayak]

Everyone knows that splorgieporgie is a more accurate source of zomboid information than any zomboid employee.

[solid osprey]

I don't come here to spread fake news, anyone whp's been around for longer should know that

[magic pawn]

@solid osprey Is your pfp Lobo from DC Comics

[candid orbit]

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/s/bB1SQ1dIaA

Wait, this still works right now?

[solid osprey]

It is Gabriel Tosh from Starcraft 2

[zinc leaf]

Everyday I open discord hoping this place is locked

[glacial badger]

guys he said "no".... that means mp is coming, big pz doesn't want us to know (this is a joke)

[rancid karma]

𝔻𝔸𝕐 𝟛𝟡 𝕊𝕀ℕℂ𝔼 𝕃𝔸𝕊𝕋 𝕌ℙ𝔻𝔸𝕋𝔼
————————————————————————
It is the thirty-ninth night of abandonment at the hand of our lords, the demon princes, the Indie Stones. Thirty-nine nights I have etched the sigils of anticipation into the damp rock, thirty-nine dawns I have tasted ash, for the promised scriptures do not descend. The silence from them is a torment more exquisite than any blade. Not knowing whether MP for Build 42 is safe and sound, is growing and living, is a void that gnaws at the very essence.

April the Seventh—accursed day!—the last sacred revelation handed down to we, the faithful. I dream nightly of sheep grazing in verdant pastures, chickens scratching secrets into the dust, and cattle whose blood would nourish my survival through these endless dark times. I yearn for the forge’s fiery embrace, for glowing iron shaped beneath hammer and anvil, crafting blades to pierce the undead.

Hear my prayer, O Lords of Code and Chaos! Grant us your blasphemous texts. End this maddening silence. Deliver unto me the dark mysteries of husbandry and blacksmithing, that I may raise beasts to sustain my flesh and forge blades to vanquish our undead tormentors with my brothers in blood, or cast me wholly into oblivion.

[glacial badger]

🙏🙏🙏

[wise token]

hire this guy to write thursdoids

[rancid karma]

[mortal dagger]

If 39 days is too much for you to handle for game development i dont know what to say

[rancid karma]

Fear not, O fellow pilgrim; my anguished cries are but the melodramatic echoes of playful impatience, a jest cloaked in the sacred torment bestowed upon us by the enigmatic Indie Stones. Though thirty-nine days feel like epochs in the wilderness, my sanity holds firm.

[strong wedge]

[mortal dagger]

I like you

(I mean i hope its not chatGPT but if its not its funny haha)

[rancid karma]

All me baby

[mortal dagger]

Hell yeah

[eternal shell]

Chizo takes talent fr

[next cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[ancient scaffold]

[rancid karma]

✨ ✨

[raw wind]

Is the wait related to the secret extra content planned for build 42? (Not actually revealed yet)

[wide trail]

There is no news that you have been in development since December. In the 42nd build, as of now, there are no basements near Louisville and the surrounding area. I really hope that cartographers are building a network of underground utilities.

[south lagoon]

Did I offend you? It most certainly wasn't the goal, apologies if so

[twin thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/what-surprised-gif-25739412

[south lagoon]

I'm pretty sure patches, and the patch notes plus comments/notes that come with them count

[coral oasis]

of course it is and it's not MP

[south lagoon]

Is this sarcasm, I really suck at reading sarcasm, it stresses me out sometimes

[raw wind]

I know its not MP

[coral oasis]

people seem to fail at some logic stuff like wanting MP when in fact SP is still missing features and bugs creep up

no it's not sarcasm

there is still more stuff to be added in SP

brewing, plumbing, machines, challenge maps

[wide trail]

It's basically a dry statement of the changes. I'm talking about the plans and what's currently in development.

[raw wind]

No its not sarcasm just a bit after Build 42 dropped lemming talked about it on at least one streamers live chat of one extra feature planned that they havent talked about at all yet.

[coral oasis]

not all the stuff is teased in thursdoids

[ebon pivot]

The next patch will most likely try to make single player as stable as possible

[south lagoon]

They've already said what's in development for b42 no? We got a pretty thorough telling of what's to come, why repeat themselves

[raw wind]

My bet is they are trying to complete the current crafting trees from primitive to medieval stage for wilderness games. The RNG map might be close enough for unstable testing in a larger scale.

[cyan wigeon]

Perhaps crafting ui updates

[ebon pivot]

I think the only major feature coming in b42 from now on is just fixing zombie spawns

[coral oasis]

don't bet you will loose money

[raw wind]

Nah plenty of work outside of just spawns still.

[south lagoon]

I would love it if strapping a canteen to my belt didn't generate infinite errors, that's a pretty good start lol

[ebon pivot]

Zombie spawns in b42 are still horrible tho

Westpoints main roads have less zombies on them than the forest nearby sometimes

[north mica]

they need tweaking is all

[south lagoon]

As a CDDA player, I have to mostly disagree, its more diverse than its ever been

[north mica]

B42 spawns are way way better in comparison to b41

[raw wind]

And that will get worked on. A lot of work is still needed on build 42. Zombie spawning tweaks are minor issues imo.

[south lagoon]

When you spawn in CDDA now, there is hardly any zombies in the back arse neighbourhood, its beautiful

[cyan wigeon]

Isnt the point of CDDA that its hellishly difficult

[south lagoon]

Well yes, but being able to go to quiet neighbourhoods more reliably just feels right

[north mica]

is CCDA one of the challenges?

[south lagoon]

It's a slow a humble start, most places were just swarmed by default

[north mica]

pretty sure that stuff was left mostly untouched in B42 so that may be why its not hard anymore

[south lagoon]

It doesn't need to be touched? It's just middle of winter with insane pop and a horrible start

Trust me when I say that just because there is quiet neighbourhoods, it doesn't take away from the insane part

Trying to establish a reliable food supply, a base with walls, and don't even get me started on the cars being 9/10 with dead batteries