Build 42 Unstable Out Now

[real fox]

I chose it cause police station nearby

And never started here before

[sturdy wren]

i dont like how half the ui is bigger than my monitor

[glacial leaf]

is there smth like a sewers network in louisville?

[ornate laurel]

Narp

[cunning turtle]

Cause it's everything close to west point, rosewood is close, Louisville is close, muldraugh, you can go to riverside faster too, etc

[sturdy wren]

i cannot see the survival skills without collapsing all of the skills before

and the crafting menu is too wide as well

[tender cave]

the ui in b42 is too big tbh

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[sturdy wren]

can't imagine how much worse it'd be on 800x600

[cunning turtle]

Some people says it's too big, some people says it's too small, what's going on

[tender cave]

i play on fullhd and its too big for me

[sturdy wren]

doesn't scale with resolution

[tender cave]

we need more ui settings

[sturdy wren]

and i hate anyone with resolution above 1600x900 /j

made up numbers

1366x768 ftw

[tender cave]

the ui in b41 was perfect for me

[sturdy wren]

you CAN infact use boulders as tables

yippie! yippie!

[forest shore]

10/10 thumbnail

[sturdy wren]

is there any reason to get poison berries?

[spare breach]

Yes

To kill yourself if youre getting sick of the whole zombie apocalypse thing

[sturdy wren]

can I use them as bait

[cunning turtle]

To kill yourself

[sturdy wren]

foraging and then i get jumpscared by a zomme boid

isnt it weird how you can just eat an onion raw

i have no idea what happened

but being drunk and filling a bottle with water made me error every frame

[fair bison]

Can't poison berries also be composted?

[glacial cape]

Animal feed(idk if they can eat them or not I just thought it'd be funny to try)

[sturdy wren]

fishing while depressed and utterly shitfaced

is this the life?

not depressed anymore

i have no idea but miserable just disappeared

[glacial cape]

What did you drink because I know about cola basically curing any fatigue & tiredness

Maybe alcohol after a sip just gets rid of all depression

[sturdy wren]

i chugged a liter of tequila

[glacial cape]

Probably that then drinking alcohol does get rid of unhappiness

[cunning turtle]

Like irl

[glacial cape]

Real

[sturdy wren]

i am now the proud owner

of a table,

i'm thisty, time to drink lake water

[cunning turtle]

[sturdy wren]

i wonder why am i stressed

wait, why am i not making a campfire

[hybrid frost]

The new year is almost here. I'm ready for regular content updates again after 3 years. Can't wait to come home to new patches with new stuff again.

[spare breach]

have they just entirely removed the visible stats on drinks now? All ive got is the amount of fluid in the container, but nothing like "-30 thirst"

[sturdy wren]

yeah

[spare breach]

that sucks.

[sturdy wren]

is there any use for flint nodules other than leveling knapping?

[spare breach]

seems you can use them as rudimentary weapons

but no their main use is basic knapping

[tawny orbit]

wait what

anyone way find safe house for heal from burning house in CDDA?

short range

[fierce mountain]

New system with liquids it might return later in the build we just gotta wait and see.

[spare breach]

ik its a new system it still sucks though

it doesnt seem unreasonable to ask for the stats to come back, perhaps not as numbers but as a separate bar of their own, underneath the fluid capacity

because as it stands at the moment, ive no idea what im drinking is doing to my character

[wet timber]

Whaaaaat? How can ukrainian be a dialect of russian if it's literally more similar to polish than russian?

[glacial cape]

I still prefer my stat numbers over stat bars it's way more readable

[wet timber]

Asking that as ukrainian person myself

[frosty cargo]

does anybody know the new generator properties? I want to power a place that has more than one floor

[keen gorge]

ValuTech generator weighs the least (30 instead of 40) It loses durability the fastest.
Old generator is slightly more durable than ValuTech
Lectro-Max generator has average durability
Premium generator is the most durable.

[glacial cape]

How many floors we talking about here?

[blazing coral]

are chicken huts not able to be moved/disassembled?

[frosty cargo]

Thank you so much! <3

[mossy tangle]

Out of curiosity, are all the loot tables generated for a save upfront? I.e. when the devs add new content during unstable will it get added to possible containers you haven’t found or opened yet, or is that stuff already set upfront?

[glacial cape]

Not sure, place I setup came with a hutch to start with however I have noticed you can't dismantle some buildables like the butchers hook

Might want to make a sledgehammer to remove it although idk if that'll work I haven't gotten one to test

[blazing coral]

Yeah I noticed I can build them but wanted to relocate some near me instead. Don't have a sledgehammer either

[wet timber]

Is gas consumption also different?

[keen gorge]

It gets added in to areas you haven't visited yet

[glacial cape]

You can make a sledgehammer all it requires is maintenance levels & possibly carving and a axe head

[keen gorge]

No

[glacial cape]

I think it's maintenance 2 or 3 you need

[blazing coral]

I don't think I have the knapping lvls to make the head

[mossy tangle]

That’s great news. Again just out of curiosity do you know if it gets generated based on proximity or when you open containers?

[keen gorge]

Loot is generated when you first search a container. If there are changes to the tables, you'll see those changes only in containers you haven't previously searched.

[blazing coral]

knapping 3 for the head, maintenance 1 to assemble, and carving 3 for the handle

[vague trench]

NOOO LMAO

[ripe nebula]

Why is everything more scarce now? 😭

[vague trench]

[sturdy wren]

it's nonsensical how you can at most get 1 branch from chopping down a tree

when you need 20 branches to make a lean to shelter

[ripe nebula]

Finding food has been so hard. I killed 180 zombies and no cigs or tobacco. I randomly found chewing tobacco in a locker three or four days in.

[vague trench]

apocalypse is to stimulate that people have gone through and collected necessities

[spare breach]

its not that theres less loot, but there is now way more item variety, which is diluting the existing amounts of spawned loot. If more loot was spawned altogether, it would compensate for the increased item variety

[sturdy wren]

no i'm pretty sure everything is literally rarer

[vague trench]

no its not

[sturdy wren]

cars are definetly rarer, food is definetly rarer, pots and saucepans are definetly raer

[vague trench]

i had to turn cookware down lol

[spare breach]

if we're talking about food yes ive noticed that canned goods for example are less likely to be found in houses

but in terms of everything its mostly the new items interfering with the rest

[fierce mountain]

Has anyone tested how much of a difference the zombie loot multiplayer does to loot in stuff?
Same question for the rolls multiplayer I have no idea what that one actually does.

[sturdy wren]

i was literally unable to find a single pot in 2 weeks

[vague trench]

i dont think so im not having any problem finding stuff

[vague trench]

where are you looking?

[vapid trail]

has anyone even able to find car battery charger

[spare breach]

i am, what i couldve otherwise found by looting just a few places now takes me thrice as much searching

[keen gorge]

Car shops

[vague trench]

yes i found two of them one in a pre looted house another in the back of a car trunk

[keen gorge]

Garages

[spare breach]

some tools are exceptionally rare, for example mason's chisel is something i still havent found

[rich shuttle]

Is there any huge differences between B41 and B42 farming aside from crop seasons?

[vapid trail]

also another note on sledgehammers, also rare, even with tuned up car events

[keen gorge]

Mason's chisel seems to spawn way more inside tool sheds and the like

[spare breach]

yet somehow i easily find like 6 mason's trowels

[sturdy wren]

houses

[vapid trail]

animals, crafting
just read the thing, sorry

[spare breach]

some of them even stuck into walking zombies

[keen gorge]

Yes. B42 farming is broken atm

[sturdy wren]

like 3

[rich shuttle]

Peak 🔥

[sturdy wren]

i seem to be unable to boil water

[spare breach]

I got a VERY good zombie a while ago though, with an almost brand new hatchet stuck into their torso

[vague trench]

i think thats their intent for apocalypse settings in 41 there was no purpose to go out and explore because things spawned for tools in one single location majority of the time making the rest of the map and places pointless. I have found both the chisels a lot of the time i just been leaving them and im just have been around echo on this save

[spare breach]

very good weapon

[vapid trail]

are you still trying fireplace?

[sturdy wren]

it has been 2 hours

[vague trench]

use a cooking pot, saucepans seem bugged

[spare breach]

is it even showing that it is being heated up? And i doubt plastic bottles will work on campfires

[sturdy wren]

well that fucking sucks

no

i cooked some cockroaches to test and it worked

[spare breach]

then rpesume that those containers dont work

Ik a bucket or a pot of water will work just fine though. Plastic containers is something you can only purify water with via a microwave

A lot of things are partially broken about B42 so far so its a tad tricky to be able to play normally lmao

[sturdy wren]

why wouldnt plastic work?

water should prevent melting of the plastic no?

[spare breach]

That's very optimistic

regardless, unless theyve changed it, if you hover over the bottle it tells you that the contents can only be purified in a microwave

[spare breach]

the hell, do you have nutritionist or something? I dont have any of that. Either way, i stand by what i said. Thats how it was in B41 anyway

[blazing coral]

I think it's a modded game

[spare breach]

well then

[sturdy wren]

wacky, cooking pots do work

[glacial cape]

Guessing anything metallic is fine

[sturdy wren]

debug mode

tin cans do not work

[glacial cape]

Weird maybe it's just saucepans & cooking pots

I've always boiled water with cooking pots anyways but still

[sturdy wren]

i find it really wacky that a single pot only holds 1.5 l

[spare breach]

me when theres easily like 20 different containers you could use to boil water in but only 4 of those containers actually work

peak B42

[bleak gyro]

He sold the domain I think

[vague trench]

probably has to do with the liquid crafting and plumbing wip stuffs

are you ready for hotfixes to break stuff?!

[glacial cape]

Guess it all depends on the cooking pot as well but from the looks of it the kentucky residents cooking pot and only one they have seems to be the smallest

They're in dire need of cooking pots with more volume 💀

[sturdy wren]

when foraging the game said "3 mushrooms (wild)" and then only puts 2 in my inventory

[spare breach]

lol

[keen gorge]

It ate the other one

[spare breach]

Speaking of, foraging is so good past like lvl 4

[sturdy wren]

not very nice

[spare breach]

I've no issue finding food, even wild vegetables

the other day i got a tomato, broccoli and potatoes

[sturdy wren]

i'm literally starving at foraging 4

[spare breach]

let me guess, you're trying to play in wilderness only

[sturdy wren]

i want to find branches for a lean to but it's only giving me broken sticks, long sticks, huge branches, logs and broken branches

[spare breach]

my foraging may be at 5 but i still play the game normally cause crafting and self-sufficiency stuff obv isnt done

[sturdy wren]

duh

your only option seems to be is drinking lake water until you're able to get pretty late/mid forging

and even then, you can't

you need a sack and a bucket to get cement

to get a sack you need burlap which are only obtained from sacks it seems

[spare breach]

Very questionable crafting design isn't it

[neat saffron]

im very upset that the pots only hold 1.5 L of water

like those are some big stockpots

[sturdy wren]

i wonder how i'm going to survive heli

(i'm not)

[opaque schooner]

You need at least 40 rocks to craft the heli

[spare breach]

i turned it off because its dum

[unborn thorn]

Spam Q to get it to land!

[spare breach]

spam Q for a machete

[sturdy wren]

i should have as well

i have bound q to vehicle controls because I kept accidentally hitting it to get in and out of cars

[spare breach]

and house alarms are set at the lowest most rare setting. ive only got it once so far, when i was looting the rosewood church quite recently

It wasn't so bad after all because by that point i already killed off most of the rosewood zombie population

[sturdy wren]

the church welcomes all
except you

house alarms dont bring that many zombies anymore

[spare breach]

theyre really loud tbh they should

i remember triggering alarms in B41 and i shit myself

[unborn thorn]

I heard that the house alarm batteries now die like a month after game start, I wonder how true that is

[vague trench]

thats natures mushroom tax duh

[unborn thorn]

"Apocalypse Tax, miss."

[vague trench]

i havent come across any batteries in my freaking houses i put it on 6 to 12 lol or something

[sturdy wren]

up to a month after power shutoff afaik

[unborn thorn]

Thanks

Yeah I always found it odd how in B41 house alarms were immortal

[sturdy wren]

i found a hallowwen card in the forest

i wrote "fuck you forest" in it and then burnt it

are clay stones?

[vague trench]

wait we can write in them?

[sturdy wren]

yes, i found you can write in diaries and halloween cars so far

diaries have a limited amount of pages and cards only 1

[glacial cape]

Great how foraging is better for stuff like this currently compared to trying to farm any crop

[ornate laurel]

casually harvests 345 sweet potatoes from a pre-planted garden

[spare breach]

lmao yeah

average farmer redneck fan vs average foraging caveman enjoyer

[unborn thorn]

Honestly I think foraging isn't supposed to entirely replace farming, just as an in between.

[spare breach]

Foraging doesnt need a nerf, but farming definitely needs a buff

[unborn thorn]

You can only do so much with plants

[ornate laurel]

also when you get crops from foraging you get B41 levels of seeds instead of B42 levels

[ornate laurel]

all we really need is more comprehensive food preservation

[spare breach]

Dude all you can do rn is pickle vegetables, thats not nearly enough

[ornate laurel]

agreed

[spare breach]

At least let me pickle eggs and dry meats

[ornate laurel]

stuff like Yeast cultivation to make bread viable long term

yeah getting infinite jar lids with even basic blacksmithing is pretty good but not a long term survival plan

[vague trench]

lol i stole someones cabbages when my game first started while i was starving, a nice snack

[sturdy wren]

i have found 19 broccoli seeds growing in the wild

[ornate laurel]

yeah foraging for seeds is the best way to get them

because only getting 1 seed from Blooming crops is criminal

[spare breach]

definitely not a plan for me because it's already winter, so despite me having like 500 crop seeds in total, and various items to help me take care of those crops, ill need to wait till spring

[ornate laurel]

should be 2 from blooming, 1 from "ready to harves"

[sturdy wren]

farming is realistic i suppose but

[spare breach]

and this may be a hot take but seed gain from foraging should be much much lwoer than it is now

i do not believe foraging should be the meta when it comes to finding seeds

[ornate laurel]

growing seasons are bugged AF anyway

[sturdy wren]

there's only so much a single person in the whole world can grow with their own two arms compared to what's growing in the forest by itself

[vague trench]

yah i want fried meat cause i almost burnt my food by forgetting lol

[spare breach]

still cant get over that text font

[sturdy wren]

what the fuck is that font

[unborn thorn]

Yo wat

[ornate laurel]

growing seasons don't trigger right so they start dying like it's the wrong month no matter when you plant them

i do need to make more comprehensive tests for each plant in each month but for right now i'd just disable it

[unborn thorn]

I had to do a double take because I thought the pic was computer upscaled

[spare breach]

fuck crops, got it

[vague trench]

lol dyslexic

pz comic sans yall gosh

[spare breach]

i'll live off of fish and canned goods for the time being

[true smelt]

GUYS GUYS

WHATSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[unborn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/rdr2-arthur-morgan-you-sir-are-a-fish-fish-fishing-gif-21640724

[true smelt]

OMG!

[neat saffron]

never saw the point in planting anything, still dont, foraging remains the GOAT, now fishing has improved and theres also hunting.

[vague trench]

me when i catch a tiny bait fish lol

[spare breach]

?

[true smelt]

BRO, IT'S INSANE! DUDE

[ornate laurel]

also, for Hunger Bar management, Potatoes (both versions) and Turnips are the best long-tern crop

TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY DAYS TO ROT BOYS

[true smelt]

Cabin in West Muldraugh

[spare breach]

it's a small cabin

[true smelt]

In 16x

[keen gorge]

Lots of cabins around

[unborn thorn]

Erm acorns are better because it takes a whole year

[ornate laurel]

yeah on CDDA there's literally 1k Zomboids around that cabin

[opaque schooner]

Matrix

[true smelt]

30000 zombies

[neat saffron]

the cabin really isnt great

its very very meh.

[vague trench]

yah i went there on the winter is coming challenge and noped lol

[true smelt]

This romero spawn, is so BAD

[ornate laurel]

alas we can't make orchards

[sturdy wren]

canned foods are extremely rare rn are they not?

[glacial cape]

Ah yes surely zombies will be focused more in urban areas, and seen less in rural or wilderness areas

[neat saffron]

bro got hit with the walking dead s1 horde

[keen gorge]

That's what you think

But the good remote places have legitimate hordes on them even on low pop

[neat saffron]

Irvingtonnn

[unborn thorn]

First day of B42 I decided to base at the radio station for the first time ever. Guess who died to like 30 zombies

[glacial cape]

CDDA is about to be even more difficult

[true smelt]

BRUH 6000 ZOMBIES

[neat saffron]

IRVINGTOOON

I hate that town. So many zombies- for what! Theres barely anything there.

[true smelt]

They destroyed the Build 42 heatmap 😭

[keen gorge]

I'm not gonna spoil but Irvington is good

[glacial cape]

B41 be like pfft easy
Meanwhile B42 damn these zombies got hands

[spare breach]

B42 for 95% of the cases has really good zombie placement i think

and the improved migration is amazing, even if it causes my playthrough to be more difficult

[true smelt]

yes

[neat saffron]

sure you got the shooting range and some hidden stuff around Irvington, but the places where the good stuff is have no zombies in them. Meanwhile the town center of irvington is so swamped its comedic with barely anything to warrant it.

[true smelt]

But this doesn't make sense

[spare breach]

agreed

[true smelt]

BRUH 4 FPS!

[keen gorge]

You can make the same argument with almost all towns

[true smelt]

In 4060 TI

[neat saffron]

maybe i am

[glacial cape]

PC about to become a jet

[keen gorge]

The center and highway of Muldraugh, West Point, Guns Unlimited at Echo, etc

[neat saffron]

guns unlimited is just awful

[unborn thorn]

"erm just git gud skill issue"

[spare breach]

i think at that point its less about your gpu and more about the CPU/RAM but correct me if im wrong

[keen gorge]

CPU

[unborn thorn]

But yeah as much as I like the new population heatmap, it could use some tweaking

[true smelt]

I think Build 42 should have been completely finalized, in my opinion this is a serious mistake.

[keen gorge]

PZ is run on a single core afaik

[true smelt]

Vram, and CPU. I think

[spare breach]

i have a giant zombie horde in rosewood that i havent fully dealt with yet and i am currently using all my ammo reserves on it lmao

[frozen wyvern]

Sir do you know what a beta is

[spare breach]

I wish so bad that i had a recipe magazine that would teach me how to make explosives

[sturdy wren]

this is not a good time for the fucking heli event bruh

[true smelt]

I left it to the testers then, because not even the B41 in instable was like that

[spare breach]

youre dead, jsut give up

[frozen wyvern]

Its because people kept coming into this unstable release expecting a full release

[vague trench]

rofl , it always comes when you dont want it or in the middle of something i swear

[unborn thorn]

Ripperoni pepperoni

[keen gorge]

Drink some soda prob

[frozen wyvern]

Soda op

[sturdy wren]

might as well go to bed on the floor

[spare breach]

I have everythign i need to make a pipebomb and firebombs but i do not know the recipes arghh!!!!

[vague trench]

41 was just animations not a crafting overhaul and stuff , way different way bigger

[opaque schooner]

What are the green and red things?

[true smelt]

Zombies. Very zombies.

[neat saffron]

ovo farms doesnt want you to know this but they actually dont pay their chickens

[opaque schooner]

How do you enable that debug thing

[true smelt]

• Debug

[sturdy wren]

we got ridiculous amounts of alcohol but no soda sorry

[opaque schooner]

No, the setting to enable the green and red part

[frozen wyvern]

But yeah, sprite based games typically run better, but PZ uses like BAJILLIONS of sprites all at one time

[sturdy wren]

well this is weird, i woke up but there's nobody

[spare breach]

It is a unstable release, what that means is that the game is mostly playable but not at all ready for a full public release

[neat saffron]

ridiculous- thats like, one wine moms cabinet

[spare breach]

I am simply hoping that they will take their sweet time fixing and adding everything before they make it available in full.

[frozen wyvern]

The chunk caching did wonders for it, but it still needs improvement, especially when it comes to 3D models

[sturdy wren]

ridiculous for being basically a caveman

[spare breach]

There is lots of bugs to get rid of, lots of balancing to do, and lots of loot spawns to tweak

[keen gorge]

Get blackout drunk so you don't feel them biting you

[neat saffron]

Realistic food loot settings would be abundant but idk if yall are ready for that conversation yet

[true smelt]

I completely understand, but issues like this make Project Zomboid unplayable for many people because it requires a lot of hardware.

[frozen wyvern]

Well yeah with realistic loot irl you would be set for motnhs with like 3 houses

[hybrid frost]

Are there skill books for combat skills now? I thought I saw some but now I can't find any

[keen gorge]

Only for aiming, reloading, and long blade

[sturdy wren]

idk what you're talking about i'm palying on an 11 year old intel igpu

[frozen wyvern]

Only for long blade

[true smelt]

wait 1 minute

[frozen wyvern]

Are you talking about the AMD issue? That was a last minute issue

[neat saffron]

i keep seeing people every now and then saying "oh people took their things and left with the zombie apocalypse" Oh yeah? The Zombie apocalypse that kills 95% of people by sneezing in 3 days? That apocalypse? The APocalypse being fenced in by the military for 3 weeks? That one? Wheres all the stuff going? The River? I never found the treasure trove of stuff. Did you?

[vague trench]

thats why they advise us there will be issues things will get fixed and broken , i hope youre ready for hotfixes because a lot of the time you have to make new saves lol

[neat saffron]

The KNOX Infection lore means that 90% of houses would be stocked just as abundantly as 90s homes were IRL on an average day at the time

[true smelt]

No, the heat map of the unstable version is very buggy, causing the appearance of many zombies in certain places, which causes a huge burden on weak hardware.

[frozen wyvern]

Reappeaance of zombies?

[true smelt]

I know lol

[keen gorge]

The virus causes them to throw 50% of their stuff at the river alongside the sledgehammers and leak the fuels from their cars

[true smelt]

Respawn** , sorry.

[frozen wyvern]

Havent heard of that issue

[neat saffron]

Apparently so

[sturdy wren]

the reappearance?

[frozen wyvern]

Uh, you know thats a vanilla feature

Zombies respawn with default settings

[neat saffron]

Causes people to eat their entire book collections too

[vague trench]

that is the intention for apocalypse setting yeah , the devs said that , its probably for when npcs get implemented to simulate that as well

[sturdy wren]

the solution for the amd issue was switching to igpu for me

[true smelt]

I mean respawn, in the zombie heatmap sense.

[spare breach]

ha! imagine leaving respawns on!

[frozen wyvern]

I really have no idea what youre talking about

[vague trench]

i think things are easier to find now in 42 once you figure out where they spawn

[neat saffron]

There will never be enough NPC's to justify that amount of scarcity especially not from the get-go. And this would imply there would have to be certain spots on the map with WALLS UPON WALLS of sheer STUFF

[glacial cape]

I love the fact that they made the virus airborne because it does make it more believable that it could wipe out people only issue is that there's not many remnants of people requiring masks I guess there's now a half mask respirator but still they're quite rare

[sturdy wren]

the helicopter flew away watching me sleep smoke a ciggie drink wine and fish, probably envious

[spare breach]

why is it yellow why the HELL is it yellow

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah but that wouldnt be very fun tho

[vague trench]

keep in mind the apocalypse default is the vision of tis, if loot is rare for you they give us options to change them and you should if youre having a hard time

[true smelt]

''I completely understand, but issues like this make Project Zomboid unplayable for many people because it requires a lot of hardware''.** @frozen wyvern This is a Zombie Heatmap problem.

[neat saffron]

I disagree. CDDA has wildly abundant loot, and yet that game doesnt struggle with their loot abundance.

*this is ofc due to a variety of factors connected to the scaling difficulty and danger in getting it but i digress

[sturdy wren]

what does a really cdda stand for even?

[frozen wyvern]

You're in debug mode, do you see that in vanilla?

[opaque schooner]

Ofc

[neat saffron]

I never had a hard time, just unfun times at worst.

[glacial cape]

I do think the loot is a bit messed up atm though with how there's now new stuff in the loot pools and I've been playing on extremely rare loot settings yet it feels like insanely rare

[frozen wyvern]

References a game called Cataclysism Dark Days Ahead

[sturdy wren]

i dont think the average person is going to the ben's hut

[neat saffron]

which i think is arguably endlessly worse than hard times

[vague trench]

then turn up loot settings lol

[glacial cape]

Think someone mentioned the loot value on rare is lesser than what it was in b41

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah if you want your starter house to have a bajillion items you can do that with sandbox settings

[vague trench]

for apocalypse yes they want it that way, its still in wip but they want it to simulate people took things

[sturdy wren]

is that the one where it's "dwarf fortress but it's good and open source"

[vague trench]

but im on apoc right now and i have so much shit i dont know waht to do with it lol

[true smelt]

Character Debug -> And go SELECT ZOMBIE

[neat saffron]

its cut down by 60%, i turned up all loot values to 1.0 and it feels like its back to B41's rare now.

[frozen wyvern]

I mean Ive heard good things about Dwarf Fortress so I wouldnt say that

[sturdy wren]

i've heard NOTHING about dwarf fortress

[opaque schooner]

Thank you

[neat saffron]

No its Dwarf Fortress but horrendously hard/stubborn and sadly open source gatekept by a crew of sheer incompetence

[frozen wyvern]

Havent played it but Ive heard nothing but praise for it myself

[true smelt]

I didn't respawn these zombies, if I was there, I would see the same amount friend.

[neat saffron]

ive been playing CDDA since D version

[keen gorge]

That's not what open source is

[frozen wyvern]

Not what I said, do you see the same thing WITHOUT debug mode enabled

[frozen wyvern]

Tell us how you really feel (also he's right thats not what open source is)

[neat saffron]

Youd think, but any changes that get made without the approval of like, a distinctive group of ~ 10 people, get immediately patched out.

[true smelt]

I didn't understand

[frozen wyvern]

Thats pretty standard practice for large projects

[neat saffron]

CDDA is only "Open source" in that its code is freely accessible to everyone. But it stopped being Open a long time ago.

[keen gorge]

I mean, you said it yourself. If its open source, make your own branch

[neat saffron]

Bright Nights is Open, and like, actually, Open

[frozen wyvern]

Imagine if every change someone made to a project got left in without approval

[neat saffron]

And way better btw because its made to be Fun

[spare breach]

if its open source that means they cant do shit if you get your own piece of it

[vague trench]

i was just thikning that would be fucking horrible lmao

i dont think id play a game that did that lol

[neat saffron]

Its more like, someone submits a bug fix, or suggests a balance change via a pull request based on community feedback

[spare breach]

so its not open source

[neat saffron]

if the people that basically stole the game from the original creator dont like it, they will immediately deny it, then ban you from making any pull requests.

[frozen wyvern]

Hmm, that does suck

[neat saffron]

No, its really not.

It just likes to say it is.

[sturdy wren]

Why don't people make a fork of it and have it be fun

[neat saffron]

They did! Bright Nights is the biggest and best

[true smelt]

?! @frozen wyvern

[neat saffron]

theres a few others but theyre mostly nieche projects here and there or private affairs

[frozen wyvern]

You have a 'Debug Mode' window open, meaning you have PZ open in debug mode. In your steam launch settings you have '-debug', which you need to delete

[sturdy wren]

another win for super earth

[frozen wyvern]

Those red and green lines are the axis

[neat saffron]

Funfact, the group in question that now """owns""" CDDA's main branch, tried to have BN Removed from GitHub because it "goes against their vision" yadda yadda etc, while their actual reasoning was literally "Were selling this game on steam for money, we dont want them to be more successful than us"

[true smelt]

Are you trying to say that with this enabled, it affects performance more? (I apologize for not understanding, my English is not very refined.)

[opaque schooner]

Wdym?

[frozen wyvern]

I think so, but the weird lines you are seeing are a debug visualizer which you probably don't want

[neat saffron]

The mainbranch, tried to kill the biggest sidebranch, because money

[true smelt]

I activated them friend 😅

[opaque schooner]

Oh damn

[true smelt]

But did you understand, what I mean? I'm giving an honest opinion, not trashing the game.

[neat saffron]

even though they technically do not own commercial rights to CDDA and them selling it on STEAM is borderlining on fraudulent

[sturdy wren]

Mindustry is free on itch io and mobile and free and open source on GitHub but you can buy it on steam for workshop and steam multiplayer support and to support anuke and idk how the open source situation is on theee

[frozen wyvern]

I can't say I understand sadly 😥

Open source is great and all but as with everything people can be awful

[lethal wolf]

This one. Fucking. Shed. Had 7 zeds inside packed tightly. They did not react to me banging the door down. Almost ending my run once they all came out from utter silence.

[sturdy wren]

I don't see how sending 200 zombies to some random shed in the middle of nowhere for the funny is the reason why the game is horrible because it's gatekeeping bad pcs from playing the game

[neat saffron]

... Surprise!

[lethal wolf]

Better fucking be a katana inside

[frozen wyvern]

Ive seen lots of people point to one minor annoyance they've gotten during this update and using that saying 'This is the worst game ever made'

[neat saffron]

forget it those are thrice as rare now

[frozen wyvern]

Again this community is generally great but there are just some really vocal, awful people

[neat saffron]

is it muscle strain?

[sturdy wren]

Survival has been more stragetic i think

[neat saffron]

for some reason people really get up in arms about it but honestly the moment i hit long blunt 3/4 i forgot it exists

[sturdy wren]

With muscle strain, and heatmap and such

[vague trench]

lol go look at steam forums , its spicy

[frozen wyvern]

Muscle strain isnt that bad, personally I think the mechanic is unneeded since it just overlaps with general exhaustion

[neat saffron]

i like the fact it encourages variety

[frozen wyvern]

Id rather take a bath in battery acid

[vague trench]

do you guys remember when b41 hotfixes and people got mad at that? lol

[neat saffron]

yeaaa

[sturdy wren]

no i like that those are different

[neat saffron]

"how dare them remove my favorite bug? How am i going to go from 0-120 mph in .1 seconds now!!!"

[vague trench]

we aint seen nothing yet lol

[sturdy wren]

No I'm new to the party 😢

[frozen wyvern]

I guess its just me. It's not that I hate the muscle strain mechanic I just find it boring

[neat saffron]

the cruise control speed bug was sooo funny tho
I miss it

[frozen wyvern]

It really was haha

[sturdy wren]

I find muscle strain curious

[neat saffron]

just NYOOOOM

[sturdy wren]

Also cruise control eats the same amount of fuel no matter the speed for some reason

[frozen wyvern]

PZ Steam forums are an edifice to the fact people are more vile online with anonymity

[sturdy wren]

Steam forums in general are miserable

[vague trench]

oh man they got so mad at hotfixes breaking mods and servers

[frozen wyvern]

This is a reason TIS went so long without updating the game

[vague trench]

yeah i been using them since 2021 and its just interesting the people there compared to discord , i love the discord lol

[sturdy wren]

Positive opinions aren't heard and it's literally 99% steam point bait

[frozen wyvern]

People got mad at TIS for releasing updates that broke mods, then they got mad at TIS for NOT releasing updates

[vague trench]

yeah lol

[frozen wyvern]

Win if you do, win if you dont

[vague trench]

yeah they got so mad it was so weird

me i know hotfixes can break saves but jesus i love my hotfixes

[frozen wyvern]

Its just so fucking weird, I haven't seen this kind of behavior from a lot of other games (at least not to this extent?)

[sturdy wren]

I am a slow driver because of how much it lags to drive and i wondered how it took me all my fuel tank of 25 liters to not even get to west point from muld

[vague trench]

yeah i dont get it at all , tried helping someone last night who wasnt enjoying the game and they refused to use sandbox because they said it was easy mode lol

proceeded to complain for 2 hours like why

[sturdy wren]

i would say muldraugh fans keep winning but honestly there is nothing in muldraugh except certain death at the main road

[frozen wyvern]

God I'm so sick of the people who complain about stuff they can change themselves with sandbox settings

Thats the damn point of why its there

[sturdy wren]

I feel bad about myself when making the game easier via sandbox mode

[frozen wyvern]

As long as you have fun

Its a game, gatekeepers can stay mad

[sturdy wren]

But I don't find myself complaining about it and saying that it's horrible

[vague trench]

yeah i really do not get it , unless youre testing apoc and giving feedback n stuff but you also have to understand what tis intention is when testing apoc not just play it and be like zomber hard , loot hard , etc "this suxth" , becuase apoc. Some things need to be fine tuned yah but just the utter negativity without being open to changes on unstable is wierd

[frozen wyvern]

Like I don't see this hostility towards Klei Entertainment (Don't Starve peeps) or Re-Logic

[sturdy wren]

One thing i think they should separate fatigue from thirst and hunger in sandbox menu

[vague trench]

dont lol i played with multihit for like years and stopped when 42 came out to test combat

[sturdy wren]

I LOVE KLEI

[frozen wyvern]

We love Klei :)

[sturdy wren]

Really nice peeps there i think

considering getting a job there when i grow up if klei is still a corporate entity and i still have access to the internet

[vague trench]

yeah i dont know becuase tis is really cool peoples

[frozen wyvern]

I mean Im getting philisophical here but it does scare me how generally comfortable people are getting with being rude assholes. I know this has been around forever but its only getting more prevelant

[sturdy wren]

I have some negative opinions about the wurt skill tree but that's kind of it

[frozen wyvern]

I actually havent played DST in years haha

I'd like to get back into it tho, Wormwood main for life

[sturdy wren]

she was op as is and they give her free bone suit

[frozen wyvern]

lol

[sturdy wren]

Wormwood is the GOAT

A little difficult early game but oh god is it rewarding

[frozen wyvern]

Ive been thinking about getting into modding PZ and I might start with some outfit mods, putting stuff like Wilsons clothes and hairstyle in would be fun

Hambat in PZ pog

[vague trench]

man i was talking about this in a thread on steam forums that people normalize toxicity on the internet and just ignore and tell you to grow thicker skin lol like shouldnt have to do that

[sturdy wren]

I find it really difficult to get 40 wraps early for ruin rush but it's very fun

[vague trench]

ALSO i need seatbelt for my badger

[lethal wolf]

also a saying I hate the most "it is what it is", WELL IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE

[frozen wyvern]

Whenever I played MP I would be the dude just chopping trees while people beat the game in like an hour lol

[sturdy wren]

Anyways I'm trying to get good at the game so i can play with friends that are just naturally somehow straight up better than me with less playtime

[frozen wyvern]

It goes both ways, people need to have thicker skin but also people need to be nice lol

[vague trench]

yeah its frustrating i have been online since the 90s and yeah a lot more people have access to the internet now and thats bad but its like seems like its easier for people, for whatever is going on in their life, to just be mean and cruel to one another like bruh like life aint bad enough sometimes lol

[spare breach]

crafts a spear with a screwdriver by using a wire and pliers >the model of the weapon proceeds to have rope instead of wire, yuck!

[sturdy wren]

Mp is really lame for me with how extremely laggy it is at times

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah... I had good memories tho ☺️

[lethal wolf]

Appeasement for idiots never worked, never will. But that's the mentality that goes far in the world atm, instead of slapping the idiots for being idiots, NPC-like people just tell -you- to change so the idiots don't target you

[vague trench]

[sturdy wren]

especially when fighting afw as wanda where you need precise timing to backstep the cage swipe

[vague trench]

make it so npcs bully us in game

[frozen wyvern]

I feel like I havent played in so long it took me a while to remember who Wanda even is lmao

[vague trench]

wth lol my tire!!

[sturdy wren]

Imagine a bandit just shooting you in the leg, watch you bleed out and then "just grow thicker skin"

[frozen wyvern]

Does taking the thin-skinned trait at character creation make you a real softie

[sturdy wren]

They should do it, for the funny

Do y'all think the bandits will just yell swears at you

[lethal wolf]

no, I just hunted 10+ rats in a dark house stabbing them, ignoring the dark even without a light source

[sturdy wren]

Ok but what if one of the rats called you a bad word

[spare breach]

-50 happiness

[lethal wolf]

Well I'm certain they mocked the fact I didnt take food with me on a long trip and having to resort to rats and mice

[sturdy wren]

Is getting separated from your car the worst thing that can happen

[vague trench]

rofl theyre going to ratocalypse you

[sturdy wren]

I just don't like how fast food spoils on long trips and i may be blind but I didn't find a rotting multiplier in sandbox

H

[spare breach]

h

[vague trench]

should be in sandbox

its under world n stuffs if that will help you in future

[ornate laurel]

may not be a multiplier but it is there

[vague trench]

i usually turn mine down if i dont use generator

[sturdy wren]

Generators are scary

[vague trench]

lol

yah i dont really use them

[severe prawn]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3389064477

Beautiful

[sturdy wren]

You need electrical 3/magazine, gas, car to transport it

[ornate laurel]

unless you setup real close to a gas station i don't blame you yeah

[sturdy wren]

And if electricity is out and you don't have gas stockpiled somewhere you need to pray for a car with gas to siphon from

[sturdy wren]

I have issues settling down anywhere

I have nowhere to fallback to

[hybrid frost]

I finally found the metal bat and it's just as glorious as I hoped it would be when I first saw it in the blogs.

[sturdy wren]

Society if I didn't suck at the game:

[sturdy wren]

Even in dst i had issues with storage because I had issues settling down

And in zomboid it's much worse because I NEED to settle down in a house near a forest and a lake/river and the only place i know of that's similar to that is northwest of west point

[vague trench]

lol i found that thing its freaking sick

[ornate laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress-2-tf2-meet-the-scout-scout-meet-the-team-gif-16835795096820020858

[sturdy wren]

Theoretically, this interaction could be real

Do y'all think bandits will exclusively have firearms?

What happened to west point with the new heatmaps anyway, ?

Is it as dense as before?

[vague trench]

like the ones we have been finding in hoards?

or like human npcs later on

[sturdy wren]

Human npcs

[stray kettle]

Melee is basically impossible without getting starting weapon skills :/

[vague trench]

i would think so , i think it would be cool that the cause of why we cant find food and firearms is because those bandits looted stuff

[vague trench]

you can pick up tree branches on the ground

[spare breach]

love how i almost died because at first i didnt notice my health was slowly decreasing from god-knows-what, seems like food poisoning but i dont remembr eating anything sketchy

anyways i stuffed myself with 2 pieces of lemongrass and im bingchilling

[vague trench]

these things

[velvet egret]

you can also pick up stones off the ground

[spare breach]

Wait is it possible to get infected through prolonged exposure to the bad air around corpses?

or do you only receive damage by staying near the vicinity for long enough, and it goes away once you're far away?

[edgy kiln]

this i think

gas masks prevent it as well

[sturdy wren]

I think it can give you queasy

[blazing coral]

there is a newspaper reporting the knox virus going airborne but some people are immune to that strain

[sturdy wren]

I genuinely have no idea what the new bad smell is but I've never gotten queasy once near corpses

[spare breach]

i think so too, but i do not think that alone will chip my health away

[sturdy wren]

Didn't they also say that on lbmw

[spare breach]

imo its probably similar to how it was before, except this time we get a moodle as a indicator

[vague trench]

i dont think so i think its just corpse sickness unless you have that other setting in sandbox on, which is hard lol i tried it and turned it off when i died lol

[woven mulch]

Are the zombie spawns in West Point still very high?

[blazing coral]

the setting for walking zombies also giving bad smell?

[keen gorge]

Bad air is just corpse sickness

No, it's not a new vector of infection

[sturdy wren]

I wonder what can you do in lv with 1 crowbar with endurance and muscle strain off

[vague trench]

I think they affect more than that lol i dunno exactly what but it was rough lol

[keen gorge]

No it's just that. The setting just makes it so living corpses give off bad air same as dead ones

[vague trench]

i saw someone die from it lol '

[keen gorge]

I mean, I've grappled with entire hordes with that setting on and it doesn't kill

Not unless you stay in that corpse riddled area for entire days

[blazing coral]

I wanna give it a shot, sounds kinda fun. Also did you notice that default apoc settings have corpse reanimation turned off? Only corpses from events can reanimate

[keen gorge]

That's always been the default

At least since B41

[sturdy wren]

That's been default in b41

[blazing coral]

really? in b41 I remember corpses from your kills reanimating but I don't remember messing with the settings

[vague trench]

i just tested it in debug and died from it

i think thats why they made the gas masks now so if people play with that feature and are killing lots of zombies they NEED to use masks

[keen gorge]

I like it

Makes 4X pop above so claustrophobic

[vague trench]

yah it will be fun to try on a run based around that as a mechanic

[blazing coral]

I want a bulldozer to dispose of corpses tho. Dragging 2 already exhausts my character

[topaz sorrel]

m14 in police car outside police building rosewood.

[keen gorge]

Just burn em

[frozen wyvern]

How do you use the whetstone item?

I wanna sharpen a sword I found

[blazing coral]

yea but still need to drag them to the firepit or waste 100ml of gas per corpse

[keen gorge]

There's infinite gas even on the lowest options

[keen gorge]

Craft menu or right click

[frozen wyvern]

Hmmm seems that theres not a recipe to sharpen the Scrap Metal Sword

[blazing coral]

you talking to a guy that removes light bulbs to save on generator fuel

[blazing coral]

does it have a sharpness value?

[frozen wyvern]

Yup

[keen gorge]

I mean, on SP, there's too much fuel for one person no matter how low you set the starting gas station fuel levels

[keen gorge]

Sharpness has to be spent some before you can sharpen it

[frozen wyvern]

Hmmm ok i see

[woven beacon]

I reckon it's to do with their pathfinding, they definitely made it better. Look at how zs pinpoint how to get to you if you shout on the other side of a large fence

[spare breach]

your sharpness is capped depending on how low the weapon's condition is

if you have low sharpness but its already at the same value as your condition then you cant sharpen it any more

[frozen wyvern]

Oooh I see! That explains it

[woven beacon]

Theres a nice cabin south of LV I reckon you should check out

Comes with a well and pretty much everything

[civic drum]

So I had some problems initially with Filibusters' in B42, has anyone had luck getting it working?

[severe egret]

Lmao no they didnt

[vague trench]

i think its better

[spare breach]

found this on a zombie

[severe egret]

Zeds get snagged trying to get to you through buildings. Theyll try and bust through a door or window rather than just go around a building, despite knowing you went around and you're on the other side. Its actually really dumb

[spare breach]

not bad, not bad

[vague trench]

its likely wip but so far i like their pathing better than in 41

[severe egret]

Why may i ask? Whats better about it?

[spare breach]

why do we need to have good pathfinding for them? isn't it good enough? They're essentially braindead rabies victims

they won't be super intelligent

[vague trench]

when there is two openings and zombies going in a window already , instead of normally all flooding that window , if a zombie is going in it they arefinding alternative routes to get to you meaning they go into a door preventing people from possibly using windows as a means to stomp

[severe egret]

I dont want intelligent pathfinding, i want believable pathfinding, that doesnt rely on the game telling zeds where i am for 10 seconds after ive lost them, causing all manner of ridiculous unexpected behaviour

[spare breach]

ive seen a video of B41 pathfinding and when you see the behind-the-scenes of it, its actually fairly reasonable

[severe egret]

Lol

[spare breach]

only thing i do not like is that zombies can spot you for 0.1 of a second and immediately they know its you

[vague trench]

with the new stealth system i think they need to be a threat

[spare breach]

there should be a time window during which a zombie is unsure whether it is really you

[severe egret]

Yeah thats rough too. Especially how fast they stop thumping to chase you

[severe egret]

Of course they do. But running away from zombies was never meant to be difficult, they're zombies dude they're never gonna catch you in a foot race. The point is to make the player stumble into new danger and for your actions to move zombies around the map

[vague trench]

so with muscle fatigue ? what else

[severe egret]

The hell has this got to do with muscle fatigue

[vague trench]

the main problem is stomping and fences

[vague trench]

i was responding to the make player stumble into new danger and running off that statement and saying muscle fatigue and what else?

actually you know nevermind lol

[viscid belfry]

Is it me or I can't barricade doors anymore with furnitures ?

[dawn elm]

Noice

[civic drum]

I've asked this fairly recently, is the draining of batteries, car and otherwise, and propane tanks over time, working as designed or a bug?

[vague trench]

known issue

[civic drum]

Any known mods or quick fixes for it, or is a "wait for patch" issue?

[vague trench]

nopers think its hotfix thing and i dont use mods so couldnt help you there , if you cant find a car charger you can spawn in one using debug for the time being if you want, i think hana said she removed the key from her car before exiting the game and that helped with the battery draining have not tested it

[frozen wyvern]

Im assuming the draining is an intended mechanic so like years down the line you dont keep finding batteries at full charge, but as of now everything goes bad in a month lol

[vague trench]

yeah i think its part of a new thingie just isnt working right lol

[civic drum]

Cars still charge when the engine is on?

[vague trench]

yah i have been just sleeping in my car to charge it

[civic drum]

So, has possible issue with rapid gas consumption been resolved then?

[dim venture]

i just realized there was no thursdoid this month?

[vague trench]

i dont know anything about that issue is it for cars or something ?

[vague trench]

theyre resting gosh

[civic drum]

When B42 came out a few people were saying that their cars were drinking up gas far more quickly.

I didn't notice anything, but some said there was a difference.

[frozen wyvern]

It depends on the car gas tank condition

Some people might get the same car model but with less capacity

[vague trench]

oh i havent noticed anything about it either but i also have been walking more than driving but so far on the beaters with a heaters i havent had any issues with gas

[ripe nebula]

Tainted water will never kill you

It makes you queasy but it’s safe to drink

[vague trench]

lol wait really?

mm pool slop

[keen gorge]

Only when you put it in a container does tainted water kill you

[pallid hinge]

So delicious 😜

[vague trench]

remember when puddlers were safe to drink lol

[crisp knot]

water dispencer bottles are bugged af

filled up completely from a singular toilet

[hoary rampart]

They fix the old AMD crashes yet?

[keen gorge]

No

[spare breach]

Yeah this should be massively reduced + it shouldnt apply to devices such as propane tanks. I've already found two completely empty propane tanks and it is infuriating, because now i have no way to fill up my welding torches

if only propane bottles could work for welding too

[frozen wyvern]

What are the differences between the generators, if any? Just found a blue one

[pine oracle]

ok i finally figured out why my big animals are light and small animals are obese

for sheep and cattle atleast, the values that should make the animal model larger based on weight actually make them smaller

[lethal wolf]

I cannot stress how stressed and frustrated I am. My 2nd run at the lake. I just casually somehow have both of my animal trailers ignore laws of physics and flipping on their roof after few spins in the air by just connecting them. The other trailer caused me to get stuck between trees on a path, and random bugs with car loudness somehow being greater than a honk when driving, lures a horde to me that almost kills me while I try to get my fucking van moving with the bugged trailer.

Now, I have barely survived, with a scratch in my weapon arm, with all my fuel draining out in the van because of trying to wedge it out, forcing me to go by foot to get more gas because after all these years, vehicles and trailers like flipping as if Space Engineers god Klang has scorned me. Jesus.

[spare breach]

they vary in durability

yours should be more durable than the normal red generator aswell as the large old one

dont quote me on this tho, ive heard it here but havent verified it

[frozen wyvern]

Hmmm ok Ive been using the yellow one which has worked great thus far

[lethal wolf]

Durability loss chance, old gen creating more noise than valutech, which creates more noise than the other types

[spare breach]

the premium one?

[frozen wyvern]

I think so...

[spare breach]

you got lucky

only ones ive found were the classic ones that existed before B42

[lethal wolf]

Premium gen looks similar to the red one, just colour difference. The old gen is VERY different shape with yellowish colour as well

[turbid gorge]

i genuinely dont understand why poeple think the nuclear bunker would be a good base, or any basement for that matter

the only way that bunker would actually be good for like defense is if its main front door was genuniely unbreakable to zombies

which... yeah. it would be. lmao it'd be a fucking steel blast door human bodies cannot damage that

https://tenor.com/view/door-doors-dooropen-opendoor-boom-gif-4902704

[vague trench]

it looks like a crusty snail

[turbid gorge]

zomboid zombies be punching through steel like

[frozen wyvern]

Did Sledgehammers spawn in trashcans in 41??

[signal nymph]

anyone know a working inventory mod that gives more than 50kg

[vague trench]

nope lol

i love the new loot stuff

found this in a trash bag in one of thoe big blue dumpers

[pallid hinge]

🎉

[vague trench]

#mod_support could try there

[pallid hinge]

such a big find, it's so wild how much good crap there is in trashbags now

[frozen wyvern]

Dude I found a car battery charger in a trash bag in a dumpster

[vague trench]

yah same LOL i needed one so bad and i wa slike hell yeah lmao

[frozen wyvern]

Dumpster diving is now literally a meta way for looting lmao

[vague trench]

find some nice snacks too i found some candy lol

[whole tundra]

where this at on the map?

[whole tundra]

ive heard of that, havent checked it out yet, thanks though

[real fox]

got bored with my other characters build gonna try this out for a spin

[vague trench]

[pallid hinge]

ohhh even went with the aiming trait

gonna level up super quick with the pew pews

https://tenor.com/view/community-abed-finger-gun-pew-gif-3561801

[real fox]

itll be nice to have some trapping skill being a ranger

[keen gorge]

Why trap when you can make roadkill

[real fox]

btw my work around for the battery bug right now is to basically insert full batteries into radios or other appliance i dont use as they wont drain whilst in hold inside of a device

[blazing coral]

I tried packing and unpacking them but sadly this part of the game is working perfectly and they keep the correct charges

[real fox]

I SWARE ITS SO ANNOYING I WISH THIS WAS ME

[rich shuttle]

Zombies apparently can spawn anywhere now (at least on apocalypse) cause I just found a new zombie in the bathroom of a house that I already cleared fully

[ornate laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/open-season-shaw-deer-run-over-meme-gif-12251156658227451666

[rich shuttle]

Second story also, so no way it could’ve snuck in from outside

[frozen wyvern]

Thats zombie respawning, zombies will appear again in cleared areas if you havent gone there in a bit

[rich shuttle]

What’s weird is I slept in that building the night before, so it’s technically supposed to be a safe house

Unless the respawn window is that small in apocalypse

[pine oracle]

do animals drink from natural sources like lakes

[opaque schooner]

Animals only drink beer

[scenic gazelle]

what the hell, did you lose your 2 month save?

[real fox]

based

[real fox]

i got tired of some of my traits and didnt want to cheat them out

[scenic gazelle]

I see

[real fox]

doing a new build now

[real fox]

i made it to 3 months too :D i just wanted a new character

[real fox]

also this happened https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z-qvp6oKyA&lc=Ugxw7pFjHOstP3Vlidp4AaABAg

[scenic gazelle]

DAMN
didn't know the generator explosion was that big

[opaque schooner]

:3

[vague trench]

🤓

[real fox]

LMFAO FUCK

[frozen wyvern]

F

[vague trench]

[keen gorge]

If only we could do an Ash Williams

https://tenor.com/view/bruce-campbell-ashvsevildead-chainsaw-letsgo-gif-6104552

[jaunty gyro]

Please report it on the forums with details about the resolution you're using

[real fox]

yessssssss

[jaunty gyro]

800x600 is no longer supported.

[ripe nebula]

Yeah tainted water is fine to drink and never lethal

[frozen wyvern]

But how will I be able to play this on my tube tv set anymore

[ripe nebula]

Tainted water won’t ever kill you

[vague trench]

oh lol i forgot i drank from it

[keen gorge]

Unless you drink it from a container

[ripe nebula]

????

[vague trench]

i didnt even get sick no fair i want to get sick

[keen gorge]

God help you if you drink tainted water from a bottle

You're already dead

[vague trench]

what

[keen gorge]

You can drink tainted water from anywhere but a bottle

Bottles kill

[ornate laurel]

I want to say yes. Worst case you can just build some troughs outside and let Rain fill them up

[real fox]

thoughts on hearty appetite?

[pine oracle]

or like

i can just fill the throughs with lake water

[frozen wyvern]

Kinda annoying but since it doesnt really disrupt normal gameplay styles and food isn't hard to come by its fine

[pine oracle]

cause i know lake water is safe to drink for animals, just dont know if they can drink straight from a lake

[vague trench]

how do you even do that , turn off auto drink?

[keen gorge]

You don't, it doesn't autodrink

You'll have to manually make your character drink it

[frozen wyvern]

Imagine picking up a bucket of tainted water and your character is just COMPELLED to slurp out of it without input

[vague trench]

im not even getting an option to do it

https://tenor.com/view/loki-tell-me-yelling-mad-tom-hiddleston-gif-16343802

[vague trench]

lol thats what im trying to do

[keen gorge]

Did they change it? I'll have to check

[ornate laurel]

Some high capacity water items like buckets you cannot drink out of

[frozen wyvern]

Weird, I think I can drink out of a dispenser bottle

[vague trench]

FOR SCIENCE

okay i have option to drink now lol i had to wait for thirsty

[bright glade]

how do I fix in-game stutters/lag? is there anything I can do?

[subtle tendon]

idc that high thirst is 1 point im still picking it

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah, makes sense tho. water is super easy to deal with

[subtle tendon]

for me to not pick high thirst it would need to be 0 points

[subtle tendon]

for real just get a pot and fill it with water

[keen gorge]

Seems like they changed the logic for bottled tainted water

[vague trench]

before it would just murder you ?

thats kinda nice if you have no water i always was under the impression it would like one drink kill you lol

[keen gorge]

So I'm running high thirst and it seems like it doesn't damage you as long as its only 250ml below

I'll have to check if they changed it so weak stomach does something now to tainted water

[velvet egret]

Task Manager -> increase priority of your PC’s resources to PZ

[crisp knot]

I will say

use this trailer instead it's got WAY better physics from what little I've used it

actually can't even make this up bro 😭

[bright glade]

I'm making a list of the fixes that might work for my computer, I plan on telling the solution that works for me here

[crisp knot]

i take back what I said I took it down the road and it immediately flipped on it's side

[cunning turtle]

The doctor has spoken

[keen gorge]

Inconsistent

It seems bottled tainted water is not a 100% death sentence anymore at B42

[vague trench]

lol i had that happen with a trailer and it just did a backflip on its back with my car

[keen gorge]

But the poison mechanic is still there since I had a character nearly die so there's a safe amount there somewhere

[crisp knot]

it's wild too like all the cars from what I can tell are a lot better now in terms of that, it's just the new animal trailers that they added which bug out

[real fox]

new build

[frozen wyvern]

Praise the fat walkie talkie

[nova wharf]

Since b42 unstable is out does that mean no more thursdoid

[cunning turtle]

What about high thirst

[frozen wyvern]

There will be blogs, theyre just on break for the holidays

[real fox]

WAS SO FUCKING ANNOYING FOR IT ONLY BEING -1 point

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[frozen wyvern]

How is high thirst annoying? Im genuinely curious

[real fox]

I HATE BEING THIRSTY

IT WAS LIKE EVERY HOUR YOU MUST DRINK DRINK DRINK WAHH WAHHH WAHHHH lmfao

[cunning turtle]

In b42 is more annoying than b41

[cunning turtle]

Like irl no cap

[nova wharf]

Time to bring 100 water bottle

[real fox]

rather deal with +50% hunger than +100% thirst

[frozen wyvern]

I dunno Ive been running it and all I gotta do is fill up the bottle every day and when walking about

[nova wharf]

Do you have auto drink off

[real fox]

no

i would have to fill my bottle like 4 times a day, likely due to my character doing alot of shit like fighting and building

[nova wharf]

Then you need more bottles 1000 preferably

[frozen wyvern]

Are you using a 1000ml bottle or 2000ml bottle?

[real fox]

on that chracter it was 1500

[vague trench]

Lmao yah i noticed that too its funny , trailer rockets

[vague trench]

Yeah high thirst is def a real negative trait now lol

[cunning turtle]

Can relate

[real fox]

megaphone

[frozen wyvern]

Wait it says tool, does it do anything?

Because I hope TIS adds random things you can use in interesting ways

Like, please please please add interractions with instruments to play them

David looking extra prominent today

[cunning turtle]

Omg I want this

[cunning turtle]

Ratchet wrench

[real fox]

ratchet wrench

[cunning turtle]

wrench ratchet

[lethal wolf]

The only livestock trailer I have never seen yet. But I did my final car trip, now I will never use a car again in this playthrough. Full out lake survival, if I need to go somewhere, I'll do it by foot. Which includes fetching furniture...

[cunning turtle]

You're not playing enough then

[lethal wolf]

At one point it'll be I don't play at all if I get pissed off enough at the weird bugs that almost end my run xD

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[frozen wyvern]

Probably need a different mindset going into a beta lol

[lethal wolf]

It's more like spending 30+ hours of gameplay to start a project which almost ends because years old bugs get me

[vague trench]

"What can i break?!"

And a side of Chickencockratbbitocalypses

[lethal wolf]

At least I have all the tools and other stuff looted I'll ever need in this run, can fully exile myself to the island, cut of all bridges and never leave

[keen gorge]

Louisville doesn't seem to spawn basements

[cunning turtle]

Paddlefruit is into something

[cunning turtle]

Wdym

[keen gorge]

There are no underground levels at Louisville

It doesn't seem to have any static basement spawns nor are there any random basement spawns

[real fox]

semi ok drip rn

[cunning turtle]

Need more drip

[keen gorge]

Full firefighter drip or bust

[cunning turtle]

Well

[real fox]

im liking this town so far

never tried west point

[cunning turtle]

My fav town

[real fox]

HOLY FUCK ANOTHER THING HAPPENED LMFAO

ill clip it in a sec

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[digital cloud]

why do you always have a million moodles 😭😭

[vague trench]

lol

[digital cloud]

are you a collector 😭🙏

[vague trench]

luna things

[real fox]

YESSSS

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[digital cloud]

😭💀

[cunning turtle]

[digital cloud]

poor human just getting tortured

[frozen wyvern]

Having like two moodles at a time scares me lol

[digital cloud]

yea

[gleaming perch]

New patchnote just dropped

[cunning turtle]

[frozen wyvern]

Found this loot on a biker zombie lmao

[real fox]

whats the max file size here let me check

nvm ill just make another youtube video

[lethal wolf]

thats the Hemp dogbane plant right? to make rope

[frozen wyvern]

Prob but thats sure not what it was being used for lol

[cunning turtle]

Luna the youtuber

[lethal wolf]

must be the rarest seed around

[cunning turtle]

Blud got cash

[vague trench]

LOL

[real fox]

https://youtu.be/hzyPviLUGC8

steam recording is weird might have to try something else

[vague trench]

is that your house the alarm is going off in?

[frozen wyvern]

The names of the photos you can find in evidence lockers are amazing

[vague trench]

lol

[real fox]

think so, weirdly

[vague trench]

lol thats fricked up

[real fox]

thoughts?

[cunning turtle]

My thoughts is you can easily grind aiming and reloading

[vague trench]

lol i just put those on why did they fall off

[frozen wyvern]

Getting some weird jarring frame stutters

I knoiw there's a lot of 3D models on the ground, but it ran fine with that same amount before

[vague trench]

is that normal

[frozen wyvern]

Yup saw that too

[vague trench]

try restarting sometimes any lag gets fixed with that

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah,but I wonder what the root cause is

I am running some mods but nothing substantial

[vague trench]

does your fps drop when you walk near any certain piles maybe?

[frozen wyvern]

Nope, just walked near empty ground, still got hitches

[vague trench]

i have seen people with way more stuff on thier floors thats weird lol

[severe egret]

Wow, do not use cruise control if you turn engine loudness up in sandbox. The RPM goes hard

[frozen wyvern]

I did literally JUST spend a bunch of time reloading bullets into magazines...

Could that have something to do with it? Like is reloading considered a 'crafting recipe'?

[cunning turtle]

@real fox thoughts? Lmao

[slate sentinel]

Get rid of speed demon

[real fox]

i really like burglar for hotwiring

[frozen wyvern]

Did you pull that from my video? Because the more common stutter is around a 554ms delay with the CPU waiting for the GPU

[real fox]

what are the negatives yu chose

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/project-zomboid-zomboid-skill-issue-skill-issue-gif-24597347

[slate sentinel]

I mean personally I wouldn’t take speed demon, especially when I got an extra point so I could get wakeful or something

[vague trench]

yah at 30 seconds in the video for a second

[cunning turtle]

I feel you but when I used to play in b41 multiplayer speed demon saved my life a lot of time fr

[frozen wyvern]

Well actually something did just change at my base, one of my millions of chicks just grew up into a female hen... it might not have anything to do with it but maybe

[vague trench]

ooo yah id check the chickens first maybe something is being weird

[frozen wyvern]

I have not properly laid out this coop at all its gonna be a bloodbath

[cunning turtle]

I just like the burglar because of the nimble

[real fox]

think skinned ahhhhhh

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH DISORGANIZED AHHHH ALL OF THEM

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[frozen wyvern]

Just got a 1000ms hitch from the GPU waiting for the CPU, somethings weird

[cunning turtle]

F

[vague trench]

is that what was lagging lol

[frozen wyvern]

I dont think so...

[vague trench]

hrmm

[frozen wyvern]

Ok its only getting exponentially worse, imma reload the save and game

It completely froze...

Yup, reloading the game fixed it

My hypothesis is that mass reloading magazines is causing some sort of garbage collection error

[vague trench]

how strange

[desert citrus]

the loot pools are actual garbage its like dayz

[frozen wyvern]

Whaddya mean?

[desert citrus]

in what universe is there 3 boxes of 9 mil in a kentucky police staiton

[vague trench]

because the people that worked there took them

you can find lots of ammo in basements of people who have the gun thingies

[frozen wyvern]

I do agree, ammo is far too scarce

It should be somewhere between how it is now and how it was in 41

[desert citrus]

ok so why isnt there any ammo on the police officers? and dont you say they fired them because then there is no point in that explenaiton

[vague trench]

they fired them

[frozen wyvern]

lol

[desert citrus]

[granite tusk]

guns are better instead 😉

[frozen wyvern]

but how use guns without ammo 😭

[desert citrus]

also there should be a wider pool of guns

there arent any repeaters submachine guns, carbines or anythinf

[frozen wyvern]

Mod called Vanilla Firearms Expansion did the trick for me, not out for 42 yet but it was the best gun mod imo

[desert citrus]

I dont want to mod my game though

[frozen wyvern]

Britas is way too... much

[frozen wyvern]

They're prob gonna add more guns down the line but its not a super high priority for them

[granite tusk]

wha

[severe egret]

I find it real interesting that you make more noise in combat stance than you do while sneak-jogging. This is at level 0 everything

[cunning turtle]

@granite tusk thoughts?

[frozen wyvern]

I dunno man playing vanilla is fine but if youre wanting more content mods are there for ya

[granite tusk]

where positives

[desert citrus]

by the point of 1997 M16A2's were out of service The m4 was already in service the M16A4 was in service and so was the very early versions of the saw

[frozen wyvern]

The game takes place in 1993

[desert citrus]

Thats true i probably have more playtime (which is 700 hours rn) modded than vanilla but i just want more content for vanilla

[frozen wyvern]

Not a gun guy, but the lack of variety in guns is not because the devs dont want more guns (at least I think) its just making more wasnt a big priority for them

[desert citrus]

oh i forgor well in that case the XM4 was already a thing for ages by then

[desert citrus]

yeah but the bolt action rifles well they look bad

[granite tusk]

nimble lover

[cunning turtle]

Were you alive in that year

[granite tusk]

Lol

[cunning turtle]

I'm in love with nimble no cap

[vague trench]

hey i like those!1

[frozen wyvern]

Remember that rural Kentucky residents arent super soldiers, I wouldnt expect civvie weapons to be military grade

[granite tusk]

short sighted?

[cunning turtle]

Just use glass

[granite tusk]

the game's blurry as fuck with that in b42

[desert citrus]

im talking about the actual models they're basicaly a block of wood

[cunning turtle]

Lmao, can relate

[frozen wyvern]

I dunno, theyve always matched the style of the game

[vague trench]

they look good

[granite tusk]

looks all good, but i wouldn't take clumsy

[frozen wyvern]

Seems like a pretty accurate model to me

[desert citrus]

thats an m14 a battle rifle i said the bolt actions dont look good

[cunning turtle]

Why not

[granite tusk]

you'll trip often

[vague trench]

the one on the floor?

[frozen wyvern]

Why do you ask?

[desert citrus]

the one you're holding

[granite tusk]

although i doubt flat 10% bonus would ever be noticeable unless you're running sprinters

go ahead, it looks like a wonderful build

[vague trench]

yah but they both look good i was including a pic of them both

[real fox]

got drip

manage to also find these puppers

axeeeee both in good condition besides one being dull

[frozen wyvern]

I keep seeing the dumbell, is that a good weapon or absolutely awful

[real fox]

use it for working out

[desert citrus]

the m14 looks good however the bolt action, for some reason the reciever isnt sticking out at all the entire top half of that rifle should be metal because thats the reciever and the handrest on the stock is made out of metal for some reason which is weird and you cant even see the bolt at all

[frozen wyvern]

It would be funny to make a gym bro build that ONLY uses dumbells as a weapon

[real fox]

adds new excercises

[cunning turtle]

I don't think so, I've tried it in B41 and when I want to go over a fence I just press e walking

[cunning turtle]

Thank you lmao

[frozen wyvern]

This is too American for me to understand, and I am American

[vague trench]

can you use the dumberbell for a weapon lol

[desert citrus]

im european

[cunning turtle]

Just asking I'm curious

[real fox]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-mood-muscles-are-georgia-gif-19093752

[vague trench]

lol

[real fox]

reminds me of this meme

[frozen wyvern]

😆

[real fox]

yes also barbells

[cunning turtle]

Blud looks like a soldier now

[real fox]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thousand-yard-stare-thousand-yard-stare-cat-ptsd-cat-soldier-cat-war-gif-9110270742088459827

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[desert citrus]

Real

[vague trench]

now that they hired fenris maybe he will redo them i dunno , im never that close to the weapon to really notice lol im more panic shooter

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah this new ballistics system is promising

I like what Lemmy said about it potentially allowing for you to throw rocks and stuff in the future

And of course, archery. Archery would be so damn fun lol

[cunning turtle]

No shotgun =