Build 42 Unstable Out Now

[forest shore]

The original and version 2 go for that, but lots of people trying to pawn steadfast spiffo specifically rn. Although I don't know how to tell if they're fake or not too.

[digital cloud]

i keep the tag on

i think that’s a sure fire way

[blazing coral]

that particular spearhead seems to be from blacksmithing. knapping has another one

[forest shore]

It would be nice if we could just look at the list of 'possible replacements' or whatever it's called and just click on one to bring up its crafting.

[turbid gorge]

the zombie phasing is the most annoying and common bug in the build so far

pushing a zombie over and instantly walking to smash it and it phases through you and flops on its belly

[ember totem]

found this new place, which is not even marked in the map

[novel grove]

dont go down the basement stairs!

[wet cargo]

can you show the map

wanna go there

[ember totem]

between riverside and brandenburg

[civic drum]

Color me intrigued.

[ember totem]

lol thank you

[forest shore]

Does anyone know where the crude whetstone crafting recipe is saved in PZ?

[novel grove]

The Basement is bugged in that building, you'll be stuck in a falling animation, don't go down there!

[ember totem]

ohhhh that's the place! damn

[novel grove]

Yeah, I found out the hard way lmao

[static badge]

I think it’s supposed to link up to the tunnel under the sanitarium nearby

[novel grove]

Yeah I think so too but I got turned into Wacky Waving Inflating Falling man

[autumn pier]

Knox news - July 1 shows that ||brandenburg has been hit by a tornado||, and ||that a deer attacked a hunter||

[civic drum]

Yeah, the first one is definite just by driving through Brandenburg.

[verbal sky]

I can’t play build 42

[forest shore]

Why not

[verbal sky]

Maybe my cpu

Snowflake ahh

[civic drum]

So apparently you can't wash yourself in rain barrels anymore?

[verbal sky]

Yaaay im so fucking happy I’m definitely not gonna smash my laptop

:D

[civic drum]

I can't actually figure out a way to clean myself now that the power and water is out, not without spending a day to drive to the river. Here's the issue:
-Can't wash myself in a rain barrel
-Can't plumb rain barrels to the shower
-Can't use loose barrels or buckets to wash myself.
-Can't use dispenser with big bottle.

Same goes for clothes, can't figure out how to wash clothes anymore.

[bold prairie]

How can I get power to the basement?

[forest shore]

Okay for anyone who wants to fix the Crude Whetstone recipe the recipe is located in media > scripts > recipes > recipes_fixing.txt

Change the lines

        item 1 [Base.Stone2] mode:keep flags[Prop1;MayDegradeHeavy],```
to ```        item 1 [Base.Stone2] flags[Prop1],```

This is just for the whetstone recipe - but I think any recipe that requires two of the same item may be bugged right now... So may be useful to know.

Eyyy it worked!

Now if only I knew how tf to make that a mod.

[civic drum]

So how was it broken?

[forest shore]

It didn't work at all. The recipe requires two stones - from what I can tell the game would try to pick the same stone twice so it wouldn't let you craft it.

[spare breach]

Me when probably thousands of players reported the whetstone bug but PZ still hasnt gotten a bugfix

[spare breach]

I'll do this later today because im pissed off and i really want that whetstone

[forest shore]

Yea i'm going to attempt to make a mod for it. There's one on the workshop now but it leaves out the exp gained and doesn't even show up in my mod list.

[civic drum]

I think I just need a mod that lets me wash myself in rain barrels again.

Any idea on how to fix that?

[hallow sail]

I thought that was a vanilla thing

[civic drum]

It was, but it doesn't work anymore.

[hallow sail]

[spare breach]

Does your file solution still give xp?

[latent zinc]

How do I level welding when the only receipt available on level 0 gives no exp?

[hallow sail]

Disassembling maybe?

[latent zinc]

Nope does not yield exp anymore

[civic drum]

Dissembly doesn't work anymore, but putting up metal barricades does for welding.

[spare breach]

Im pretty sure nothing disassembly related gives xp

[turbid gorge]

bro the fucking shoes dissapearing without telling you is so fucking annoying i just stepped in glass and got deep wounds in both feet because i had literally no way to know my shows dissapeared

[hallow sail]

Thats not true. You can still get electrical skill from disassembling

[turbid gorge]

no noise no notifaction nothing

[hallow sail]

I thought the disassembling thing was just for carpentry

[turbid gorge]

removing dissasembly as xp method sucks

already hard enough to grind as is

[hallow sail]

You can still get disassembling exp from many things

[hallow sail]

Whats the difference between welding and metalworking now

[latent zinc]

I think they removed it so people don’t deconstruct everything in multiplayer, also it was not very fun

[hallow sail]

Like i said. You can still disassemble tvs and what not for electrical skill

[civic drum]

No idea.

[blazing coral]

cars are colliding with the elevators

[civic drum]

Also, boy, do animal trailers have a hard time with turning.

[limpid crest]

Man, I've never modded project zomboid before, but I guess I might mod it in this build

once those sweat sweat new mod GUI releases

[hallow sail]

So thats how you get animals?

[stark vector]

does anyone know if zombies are more vulnerable to being pushed over while they're in the "recovering from a hit" animation?

[hallow sail]

Honestly doubt it

[blazing coral]

you can find them at farms, but I heard some trailers spawn with them too

[stark vector]

i think they should, itd be a nice balancing thing

[civic drum]

Yep, find a trailer, drive it to a place where there is animals, bring animals to the trailer one by one until full, and take them home.

[civic drum]

Yes, and if you find a trailer full of animals, and you can't take the animals, release them. They'll stay in the area and that way they won't starve to death.

[rain owl]

Is there a rain check on the first hot fix? I still havnt been able to play:(

[blazing coral]

speaking of animal trailers. I found one with an inventory called eggs. Can I have a mobile chicken coop?

[wraith rune]

What is a rain check?

[civic drum]

Technically yes, but they seem to get stressed when in the trailer, and egg production goes down when they're stressed I believe.

[rain owl]

A check, for rain. Just a possible date on first hot fix.

[raw parcel]

man this is such a nerf to so many garages

[latent zinc]

Is it harder to level skills in b42 in your opinion?

[raw parcel]

yes due to no xp on disassembly and level 3 cap for tv shows

[hallow sail]

How many can fit in one?

Cows, for example

[raw parcel]

levelling any skill except tailoring to level 5-6 used to be trivial

[latent zinc]

Hmm that didn’t need nerfing imo

[civic drum]

Bigger animals take up more space, haven't found a cow yet, so couldn't tell you.

[raw parcel]

it did, disassembling beds would max out your carpentry skill in no time

[hallow sail]

I found a nice pair earlier

[raw parcel]

maybe they overshot the nerf on some skills but a nerf was sorely needed

the double dip from tv shows and vhs was ridiculous

[civic drum]

I've seen hundreds of chickens, no cows in terms of farm animals. I even found a trailer full of domesticated turkeys once.

[blazing coral]

the station wagon in the pic won't fit, for example

[raw parcel]

yeah i wonder how easy it is to disable collision on these things

[hallow sail]

Im sorry… doubledip?

[blazing coral]

I don't think it's intentional. Either WIP or bug

[slim merlin]

Yo there’s turkeys??

[forest shore]

It's exactly the same as the vanilla recipe - only change is that only one stone is required (and is consumed)

[wraith rune]

Imma be honest I have no idea what that means, why can you not play because you can't "check" whether there is rain?

[civic drum]

Yep! Wild and domestic.

[slim merlin]

Nice. My new long term goal is to survive til thanksgiving and cook a thanksgiving turkey (this won’t happen)

[raw parcel]

you could watch the exact same life and living content on TV and on VHS and get the xp twice

basically level carpentry to 7 or 8 just by reading books and watching TV, never actually doing carpentry related tasks

i dont think its reasonable to maintain that balance

[past spear]

still can't seem to wash dirty rags

[hallow sail]

Oh shit i didn’t know that!

[civic drum]

Hold up, a thought just occured to me, reading the syntax of this, doesn't this mean that this would be the place to fix the matter replication ongoing with recipes?

[civic drum]

Still can.

[raw parcel]

doesnt the TV xp stop at level 3?

[forest shore]

Assuming there isn't a bug where things aren't consumed that the recipe says should be - yes.

[civic drum]

Oh, right, by default sure. I thought you meant the double dipping, which can still be done. As for the limit at level 3, that can be removed in custom settings.

[static heart]

someone found a solution for stone chisel craft ?

[raw parcel]

the cap at lvl3 kind of renders any double dipping moot

[static heart]

other than going in debug mod

[tawny orbit]

bro pig destroyed fence

[hallow sail]

What…

[opaque schooner]

Seriously?

[tawny orbit]

yea

[static heart]

Did you make the livestock zone ?

[tawny orbit]

no idk how

[tawny orbit]

ah

[static heart]

otherwise they will wandering around

[hallow sail]

Must have gotten frightened?

[raw parcel]

check to see if the pig didnt drive off in your car too

[hallow sail]

So should i hijack a feeding trough or two aswell when i snatch some cows?

What do they eat? Do i need animal feed bags or can i get like some field hay

[tawny orbit]

oh i know why i think pig can destroy wooden fence because irl can do it

[civic drum]

Both of those work, but you can also get a scythe to cut tall grass and use that. You do need a trough to fill up.

You'll need one for food, and one for water.

[hallow sail]

Does rainwater suffice?

[civic drum]

Yes

[blazing coral]

iirc filcher said they don't have an ETA on having the script work with neaby water sources. For now you need a container with at least 500ml of water on you and right click the dirty rag on your inventory

[subtle tartan]

indeed

[hallow sail]

Okay. Cuz i found a huge pile of hay on the side of the road. If thats good enough for cows i’ll go drive out for it

[keen gorge]

You can wash using washing machines

[past spear]

ahhh, alright. that might've been the problem. can't be seltzer water either, i assume?

[keen gorge]

Beats having to clean manually

[raw parcel]

i have a question, if anyone has any clue:
why the hell are all spawnpoints for rosewood, except 2, commented out

[forest shore]

I broke my game. I enabled my whetstone fix as a mod and.. It crashes.

[raw parcel]

all the profession specific spawnpoints are commented out

[static heart]

Do you think we will get hotfix before holidays ?

[opaque schooner]

Yes

Do any of yall have experience with .class files

[blazing coral]

idk

[tawny orbit]

if cow male be careful they are not friendly

i got knocked for 5 times by bull

and they eat grass and hay and food animal

[blazing coral]

is it just me or melee fights seem to attract a lot of zombies? feels like I'm shooting a handgun here

[civic drum]

Are you conspicuous? That trait REALLY makes a difference now

[opaque schooner]

It really does, it’s no longer free points

[blazing coral]

neither trait

[raw parcel]

what does the conspicuous trait do now?

anyone looked in the files?

[keen gorge]

Makes you conspicuous

[blazing coral]

but I'm hitting zombies with a crowbar and suddenly I get groups coming towards me from offscreen

[raw parcel]

yeah im talking about something a little more granular here

ill just look and see what it does

[civic drum]

Someone did earlier, I believe it increases the radius the zombies spot you at.

[keen gorge]

You can eat burnt food now even with weak stomach

No aftereffects aside from depression

[obsidian fiber]

from burnt steak?

mental

[blazing coral]

I'm think my "problem" is sound related

[hallow sail]

They’ll just eat grass too?

[blazing coral]

https://tenor.com/view/bull-murica-gif-7976204

[hallow sail]

I pet a male cow earlier, though?

[keen gorge]

Milk the male cow

[hallow sail]

💀

[blazing coral]

aggressiveness linked to stress? 🧐

[hallow sail]

Most definitely

[civic drum]

Oh, pro tip on raising turkeys: never have two males in one pen. Not unless you want murder turkeys.

[blazing coral]

I think I'm done using the online map. finding random flyers and using the info to annotate my map with the loot I may find is so much cooler

[keen gorge]

Map project's not even updated yet so it doesn't particularly spoil anything

[hallow sail]

I think you should use that same rule for cows too

[wet cargo]

one month in

[wet timber]

found some spikes already?

[hallow sail]

Badass

[ornate cosmos]

Rizz

[tawny orbit]

ye

[ornate cosmos]

Gigachad

[wet timber]

pepe plate carrier is the best tho

[wet cargo]

where did you find that armor

[wet timber]

i killed spiked zombie

[wet timber]

12 months into the apocalypse run

[unborn thorn]

Amogus

[ornate cosmos]

Amogus

[wet timber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1293411385824378951/1319265477754748959/l1mepress_r_2024-12-19-14-16-15_1734606975930.mp4?ex=6766a6b8&is=67655538&hm=3f7d59d0aaeba91bff3632c87fe9b1e2f1c01f286b119d7045bf94ad294f4c65& best video ngl

[ornate cosmos]

I threw it off

[unborn thorn]

Lmao is that a real basement. That'd be hilarious

[wet timber]

yeah i know, good job mate

[wet cargo]

i wander when the first patch its coming

[wet timber]

you should add exhausted emoji on the end tho

[civic drum]

Today at 4:01 PM EST

[ornate cosmos]

Okay

[forest shore]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3387923786 I managed to clobber my way through it.

[chrome fable]

you can turn it back on in the sandbox settings

[wet cargo]

do you guys think we are gonna lose our b42 unstable saves when b42 full version releases

[wet timber]

you really gonna do it? that's the spirit lol

[chrome fable]

not gonna have to worry about that for a while

[wet timber]

we gonna lose them after first bugfix lmao

[wet cargo]

)))

[chrome fable]

which will hopefully be soon

[civic drum]

Theoretically, no, but it's probable that the patches will break things that exist in your saves. You may not technically lose them, but they could break everything you had.

[wet timber]

yup

[tawny orbit]

how is long to hatch chick?

[raw parcel]

does anyone know where trait LUA classes are defined

[wet timber]

someone on mod-support/mod-development gave folder where are they

[wet cargo]

a week or something like that, it took a while for them to hatch for me

[tawny orbit]

week 1 or 2?

[civic drum]

You could also make omelettes, which are also bugged btw.

[chrome fable]

I wonder what kind of testing the testers were doing if they missed so much obvious stuff

[raw parcel]

i dont think they hired professional testers, just streamers etc

[spare breach]

Sick, thanks

[chrome fable]

so it was a waste of time, should've just made it public earlier, so much bugs would've been found and fixed by now

[raw parcel]

i agree, not to be mean

especially the amd stuff

but what can you do

[wet timber]

The beta testing process took more than 6 months

[wet timber]

That's true.

[chrome fable]

and other extremely easy to find bugs like recipes and scripts not working, and broken fluid values, and so much other stuff players already found

[forest shore]

Considering there were youtube videos almost immediately after it released I'm guessing a few youtubers were testers, so yea.

[wet timber]

Check how many name you have on credits in main menu and most of them are streamers

[wet timber]

beta testers were just playing game not searching for bugs so you can have that obvious problems

[raw parcel]

i assume streamers did this testing for free, which professional QA is not

[hallow sail]

Whaaat?

[chrome fable]

if that's true that's mad funny ngl, they made us wait two months longer for that

[stiff finch]

Henlo devs. Just wanted to say thank you. I mean, you are trying and actively carrying about this game. So just thank you

[wet timber]

true

[wet timber]

it's true, words of anonymous tester

[civic drum]

About to conduct an experiment: will a Rhode Island Cockrel fight the other Cockrel?

[raw parcel]

but i cant believe they opened a closed beta to "many streamers" and none leaked

[urban saddle]

There are dedicated QA. Things weren't "missed", there's a priority, and it's not like finding and reproducing and tracking bugs makes them fixed, there's a system. The AMD is an unfortunate side effect of them discontinuing driver updates for older(?) cards. It's being looked into.

[civic drum]

I found your outlet store. The plants died, and the power went out after I installed one of your ovens. I demand a refund!

[wet timber]

there was not that many streamers, just a couple of them

[wet timber]

that's pretty sad, wishing you get a full refund

[urban saddle]

Lots of these things are known, will be fixed, and this is a reminder this is an unstable unbalanced incomplete build, on an opt in branch where saves may break, the game may crash, characters may be lost or any other possible thing that we wouldn't be happy to have public on a stable build to this degree.

[wet timber]

seems fair i suppose

[raw parcel]

it's true that bugs and mishaps are always obvious in hindsight

[urban saddle]

Mad Dan's Den does not offer refunds, and will never do so. Our appliances and furnishings, objects or tools offered within will never fail, under any circumstances.

[wet timber]

so he bought a fake?

[lyric saffron]

scammers!

[civic drum]

Your staff was very unprofessional, and tried to eat my face, and I found a half dozen of them just lazing about and refusing to work in the break room!

[wet timber]

report it to FDA asap

[lyric saffron]

Burn his store

[wet timber]

XD

[urban saddle]

Mad Dan's Den takes no responsibility for its conduct of staff, which may result in injury, death, or re-animation. We only offer premium quality items and a premium experience. No further comment on the matter.

[civic drum]

Now people will believe me when I tell them that Spiffo tells me to burn things!

[fierce mountain]

Always this I am happy for what we got when we got it. I shall enjoy what exists already and shall just have fun with what I can until the fixes are in next year. No rush needed its the holiday season. 😄

[lyric saffron]

Only Dan's store

[raw parcel]

a lot of stuff is fixable through modding for now tbh

[wet timber]

If so, you are breaking European Union law and more specifically consumer rights!!! I am filing a complaint to the tribunal!

[raw parcel]

basically everything but rendering issues

i give up on finding those traits

it's friday im too stupid to be productive

[unkempt atlas]

Writing software is hard. TIS does a better than average job. If you want a tested and polished build, no one is stopping you from playing B41.

[night kiln]

quick question

why was the new main menu screen was removed?

was it too graphic or something

[chrome fable]

it contained the horror

[blazing coral]

sir, you are in a Kentucky

[night kiln]

bitch yall are surviving in knox county xd

[forest shore]

There was some controversy. Check reddit for all the tea.

[chrome fable]

yeah but peeping the horror can have devastating consequences

[wet timber]

so it's not a dream?

[night kiln]

maybe

but old screen did the same though

wit a bit more... unclear sight

[chrome fable]

have you never peeped the horror

[night kiln]

like you can't tell whether dude is helping his fiance

or having a nice dinner

[night kiln]

oh sir I have

I loved it

although despite the horror - I really did loved new main menu screen

[chrome fable]

if you peep the horror three times you summon the evil googoogaga

[night kiln]

it was real good.

[night kiln]

was that the reason it got turned down? xd

[chrome fable]

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-gif-7280845142657635823

yes

[night kiln]

say, could you give me a link to that? Would appreciate it

[worthy vault]

Greetings, any info or hint on when the patch for build 42 will be available

[night kiln]

cause it seems I either missed it or can't find it

[forest shore]

I do not wish to get muted... Just.. Look at the Project Zomboid reddit from two days ago.

[night kiln]

sheesh, it's that bad?

[chrome fable]

it contains the horror

[night kiln]

GIVE ME TEH HORROR

[chrome fable]

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-gif-7280845142657635823

[night kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-scream-meme-big-mouth-dead-gif-27590155

[chrome fable]

thats just a flounder

[forest shore]

Well the mods made the word a bad one that instantly mutes you. But I don't blame them - it's all anyone would talk about the night of release.

[night kiln]

can you gib me the link via dm though?

[chrome fable]

you dont want to know the horror

[night kiln]

bruh I can't believe all of that fuss because of that ban-word.

I just wanted to enjoy some new screens

[civic drum]

@urban saddle Here's what I think of your return policy!

[forest shore]

Yeaaaaa. The crappy part is they seemed to of removed the loading screens entirely - so you can't even have custom load screens anymore. I hope they re-enable that though, I would love to have newspapers as the loading screens like someone else was making.

[night kiln]

that'd be helluva dope

[raw parcel]

is the bad word related to something not natural and something not stupid?

some kind of man-made intelligence?

[urban saddle]

I think you'll find it will be impossible to succumb to flames, not only are our products premium, our stores are built resistant to any outside hazards in existence.

[civic drum]

Burning down bad retailers aside, has anyone else gotten to raising crops yet?

[desert spire]

That's why I take the overweight trait now.
Makes it easier to keep those calories

[forest shore]

I just steal from the fields lmfao

[mild axle]

Is there a way to make yeast in the game now

[ornate parcel]

did they change fishing

I've deadass only caught seaweed and broken fishing nets 😭

[past spear]

most effective hunting tactics

[ornate parcel]

I don't wanna total my car tho

[hot grail]

B42 is so realistic bro

[coral basin]

I'll still take it

[broken socket]

not gonna lie, needing to use a water container just to clean rags is so annoying

[neat saffron]

still love that this is the first message of this thread

[neat saffron]

The R in Deer is at the end because it stands for Roadkill

[autumn pier]

YOU CAN WRING CLOTHES!!! 🤩

[astral brook]

Can we have a vote to bring back the loading screenart?

[static heart]

I really like this idea

[autumn pier]

hit the jackpot with the market, not a lof zeds in the back storage 🥳

[astral brook]

Ok... either way, it's something to look at while waiting.

[autumn pier]

So much canned goodies and high calorie foods

[frosty island]

wow there sure are a lot of gold bars and briefcases of money laying around on the street (i dunno why i keep finding gold bars and briefcases of money in a car event, dunno if i have insane luck or if its a lil too common)

[autumn pier]

I’m pretty sure it’s in the files themselves so maybe a mod can add them back

[autumn pier]

I mean, hard currencies would be good to hold onto for the apocalypse

[manic dome]

okay this is good to know, I thought I just took my shoes off by accident

[vague trench]

lmao

[past spear]

you can see the muscle strain in his arm

[vague trench]

omg that reminds me of a gold bar i found that i was torn between taking back to my base or a box of nails i gotta go back and get it thnx

[frosty island]

yeah i found 2 gold bars and one small one

i think the total weight was like 40

[opaque schooner]

GOLD BARS???

[vague trench]

yeah lmao , i was like awh man!!! nails or bar ...bar or nairls lol

[vague trench]

yar lol

[autumn pier]

this is why you don't travel at night without a light source

[opaque schooner]

Are you serious there’s gold bars in b42?

[vague trench]

time to stock fort knoz guys, yah let me go back there hang on

[weary wasp]

I need the lockpick mod with the minigames asap lol

[true smelt]

Does anyone know the reason why the Lucky Trait was removed? I was told that now, as days pass, 'hidden NPCs' would loot the houses around, and the Lucky Trait wouldn't make sense because of that. Does anyone know of an existing blog that talks about this? I need this information to create a video.

[whole flame]

when will the map project be updated

[vague trench]

no idea , been taking that trait since forever lol, maybe it was just too awesome being cute

[opaque schooner]

Just go make your own man

[autumn pier]

So that explains some of the lackluster houses I’ve found

[past spear]

is this a joke

[opaque schooner]

I’m planning on making my own project zomboid map later today

[opaque schooner]

The GitHub files are public, don’t be lazy

[severe prawn]

Oh, come on. Where are our heroes that are updating PZ wiki for build 42?

[true smelt]

I haven't seen any blog commenting on this, only if this information came from contact with the devs.

[past spear]

is fort knox planned for a future build?

[true smelt]

Yeah

[autumn pier]

They’re updating it alright, but it’s a public wiki so don’t expect it to be here soon

[vague trench]

wasnt it a trait that didnt work in mp too ?

[true smelt]

1.0

[whole flame]

can you post it when done

[past spear]

hyped for 2064

[true smelt]

Yes

[opaque schooner]

Post a screenshot of it?

[whole flame]

link

[opaque schooner]

I don’t own a website

You can run the map locally though

[true smelt]

My friend, if you find out this information at any point, please send me a message.

[whole flame]

ok

[blazing coral]

does gold has any use tho?

[mossy tangle]

I hope we can smelt it all down!

[vague trench]

ok lol

[mossy tangle]

Just pile up gold bars haha

[vague trench]

im guessing maybe later , cant you mix it with other metals to create alloys or soemthing

[blazing coral]

We're rich!

[true smelt]

🫡

[vague trench]

were gonna fuel the zombereconomy with cheddar

[true smelt]

By the way NASKO, if you see this message, do you think you could tell me something about it?

[true smelt]

.

[mossy tangle]

Now just need somehing to spend i ton haha

[vague trench]

lol the vending machiens when they finally work

[wet timber]

I don't know about the hidden NPCs thing, but Lucky/Unlucky were more than likely removed due to their' nature as traits affecting serverside loot tables, making it incompatible with multiplayer.

[true smelt]

But it's just removing it from Multiplayer, No?

[wet timber]

It's been kept away from multiplayer since B41, but my guess is that TIS didn't want to keep around a trait that only works in one mode of the game

[blazing coral]

wait. this is huge. background loot goblins in my singleplayer save?

[dusk plume]

With this new newspaper/flier framework, A new event along the lines of a plane dropping survival fliers near to the player containing tips and tricks would be cool. It'd happen quite early on and attract lots of zombies, but would be helpful to new players looking for guidance with the game.

[opaque schooner]

Expect that to be a mod

[true smelt]

😂 That's what they told me.

[gleaming perch]

real

get skill book

[heavy crown]

Lucky/Unlucky also didn’t really make sense and was just free points in setting up a single player build outside of foraging minmax

[true smelt]

That's why I'm interested in knowing about it, because I believe this is a response from one of the developers in the DM of that content creator.

[hallow adder]

It didn't make it into Unstable Build 42. I think it's pushed back into Build 43.

[true smelt]

He said in the video that items seem smaller after 10 days alive, has anyone noticed that?

[blazing coral]

devious idea. have the player who need the most guidance go through the biggest hardship. maybe the tips were the zombies we slayed along the way

[gleaming perch]

I think they removed it because its unstable right now, they added so many new things in this update that the Lucky trait can impact, so we can expect it back in the full Build release or later

[static heart]

i don't think there is skill book for knapping

[gleaming perch]

Expanded Helicopter event mod would go crazy

[static heart]

but nvm i got lvl 3

[gleaming perch]

I saw a Level 4 one

[static heart]

i just took the wilderness trait

[true smelt]

It could make sense.

[heavy crown]

Books are in general a fair bit harder to collect, less loot overall, the POIs are harder to get to, and there’s a lot more categories of skills to get books for

[true smelt]

But I still think it's unlikely.

[gleaming perch]

Like with all the new skills, butchering, animal care, and a whole lot of things can be impacted by luckiness

[mossy tangle]

Do animals get stressed being in mixed pens? I can't figure out why my pigs and hcickens both are but they are fed and watered and no zombies nearby at all

[gleaming perch]

is there alot of bodies around

[queen thistle]

cool build i guess...

[static heart]

oh, well it was supposed to come with multiplayer B42

[gleaming perch]

restart your game

[queen thistle]

i cant even see the menu

[mossy tangle]

Nope! I did kill another animal in the pen like 5 days ago though

[queen thistle]

i just wanted the screenshot thats all i was gonna do that

[gleaming perch]

Thats most liekly why

[hallow adder]

It's not even listed in the Build 42 features list though. That's why I think it's pushed to Build 43.

[gleaming perch]

you gotta carry the animal elsewhere and kill it, like in real life

[queen thistle]

it really was unstable LMAO

[gleaming perch]

you cant let them see you killing their animals or else it’ll make them cray

[mossy tangle]

Oh ok I thought that might be it haha. Does being stressed do anyhting to them?

[gleaming perch]

Less milk/eggs produced I assume? or maybe their reproduction times are delayed

im not sure myself but reasonably i think it’d be that

[blazing coral]

they don't appreciate the honesty

[mossy tangle]

Thanks!

[gleaming perch]

Real

[blazing coral]

Strawcave was just keeping it real

[static heart]

uhm, no i really think it will come with b42 actually, it's really necessary for what they want for crafting

[past spear]

interesting, if youre customizing a new character after dying as your old one, the color drop down menus dont work

[gleaming perch]

report it in the forums

thats a pretty important bug

[past spear]

is it?

[gleaming perch]

yeah if it doesnt work that should definitely be reported

lots of people keep playing in the same worlds after death so it should definitely be fixed

[urban saddle]

Delete everyhing in /users/Zomboid, except saves and relaunch.

[hallow adder]

Either that, or the unstable list mentioning "Randomized Wilderness and Biomes, New Grass" is really in the game, but you're just not at the edge of the map.

[blazing coral]

I think this list encompasses unstable only (sorry didn't read the message fully lol)

[queen thistle]

nuh uh just had to reload the game

its working good

[hallow adder]

Yes, which is what the whole discussion was about. The edge of the map infinitely expanding wilderness isn't in this build yet.

[queen thistle]

ok no you where right

[urban saddle]

Damn, time to go back to my old fixes then, I thought telling people to do that when it launched wasn't working anymore lol

[vague trench]

lol

[past spear]

not bad for a start

[urban saddle]

Some odd compatibilty thing on first launch for some people, should be fixed anyway next time

[mossy tangle]

Do you know how much room they need to eat only grass? Mine is 96 and my pigs dont seem to need to eat from the trough. 2 pigs.

[past spear]

there they are lmao

[gleaming perch]

idk sadly

[lyric saffron]

Known issue

[past spear]

good shit

[queen thistle]

No way... Spiffo? Are you real?

[vague trench]

lol

[lyric saffron]

Quitting and reloading should fix this. Like a temp solution.

[heavy crown]

Spiffo is real, like the one piece

[static heart]

nice

[blissful turtle]

does conspicuous actually work as intended now? or is it still free points?

[wet timber]

I haven't noticed much difference with or without conspicuous, but I'm bad at stealth so who knows

[blazing coral]

has anyone messed with blacksmithing yet? I noticed it doesn't show up in the crafting menu

[blazing coral]

I tried inconspicuous and felt like stealth was still hard. I'm bad at it too, sadly

[forest shore]

Thats a good idea - maybe drop recipe leaflets on how to craft improvised weapons

[forest shore]

A few people were complaining about it, so it seems it works as intended.

[remote bear]

wtf, just tried the improved gunplay properly, it is actually so good wtf

https://tenor.com/view/imjjustamirror-nalakinators-gif-24344767

[vague trench]

wait i want a hello kitty gun lol

man the rats out the corner of my eye scare the shit out of me when fighting zombers lol

[remote bear]

Screw firearm mods, i want firearm colour modding.

[visual trail]

how much grind until you made it?

[opaque schooner]

Hell yeah

[mossy tangle]

Is there a good guide of what exaclty happen with respawn on or off?

[scenic gazelle]

Yeah
but most mods that I used are not integrated into the game
for example, I had "siphoning needs hoses" mod, just throw them out of the window, sitting mod etc...
I am glad the devs integrated these mechanics into the vanilla game
i just hope we can someday plate our food instead of just eating straight from the pot/pan

[visual trail]

It's coming but not in this version, maybe in a later update, it was teased way back this year or at the end of last year I think

it's a map feature that was constantly mentioned but needs more work imo

[prime cedar]

Guys, is anyone else having problems with the game not loading? I have been waiting for around 15 minutes for the main menu to load. I can hear the music, and sounds, i can press the buttons in the main menu, but the problem is that i dont know what i’m pressing, plus the screen is black. It’s my first time starting B42 since it came out

[static heart]

actually i got the wilderness trait so i started with lvl 1 + 75% xp

it was much easier

the trait is -8 tho

[verbal sky]

Hell yeah, thought it was my pc finally giving up..

I was so desperate I overclocked the cpu for the first time in my life.

[glacial cape]

Sorry I just woke up what conversation was this? Doesn't help the message pan isn't working for some reason

[scenic gazelle]

Oh, it's fine
was about mod devs getting their mods up to date with B42

[static heart]

here i am @visual trail

[vague trench]

id try #1019767076094758924 can look in there while you wait too

[glacial cape]

Oh right yeah it's very cool that devs implemented mods into vanilla by default :) also I agree about the plate thing but some of the new eating animations with actual models is amazing

[visual trail]

good progress I see, way better after reaching lvl 1

it gets easier I noticed

[sinful shore]

@static heart where did you base ?

[static heart]

ye exactly !

[visual trail]

he is still wilderness-ing I think

[static heart]

here in the new town, i spend most of the time in the forest / road to get stones

the stone knife need lvl 5 maintenance

[sinful shore]

the new town looks so cool i’m going to visit it soon

[visual trail]

some basic weapons / weapon parts need lvl 1 maintenance which is absurd

[blissful turtle]

wow, stealth is actually really good now. i managed to sneak into rosewood FD on the first day, it was surrounded by ~50 zombies, i only had to kill 1 ultimately

that was with lvl 1 lightfooted and 0 sneak

[visual trail]

it makes no sense to require lvl 5....

[blissful turtle]

as a vet my instinct tells me, stealth is dogshit don't even bother, but i'm definitely gonna have to try it more

[chrome fable]

wdym properly

[keen gorge]

Stealth is good now

[static heart]

yes, why would i make this knife after reaching lvl 5, i would already get a high tier knife

[vague trench]

yah its way better now

[remote bear]

never gave it a try, until i properly tested it out, its not that bad ngl

[forest shore]

Just figured out you can put fliers and brochures in a photo album.

[vague trench]

i tried it on winter is coming challenge and it was pretty dang good

[keen gorge]

It's actually viable to go full stealth almost everywhere that isn't Louisville

[forest shore]

No more having dozens of them cluttering up my bookshelf.

[static heart]

oh i'm so dumb, i showed you the hammer

here is the long axe

[heavy crown]

Pleasantly surprised to see Strength rising at decent rates, Fitness not so much

[brazen jetty]

How do I craft molotov in B42?

[vague trench]

i think theyre disabled or something right now

[static heart]

you can't

[brazen jetty]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/991056903482253383/1319441256883159040/bounce.gif

[heavy crown]

So is Run speed modifier a positive value now? I'd imagine the UI is just weird in describing the relationship that work boots slow down run speed compared to sneakers

[visual trail]

yes should remove that

[static heart]

@visual trail also i don't figure out how can i start making the primitive furnace

i got every ressources except the bag for the sand

also i don't have any shovel to get sand

it's not really a primitive furnace if you have to get high tier tools to make it lul

this bucket of clay cement is literraly in every primitive building

[silk nova]

that all vanilla???

[static heart]

Oh btw, it needs a bucket

so there is no point to make anything primitve for now

[wet timber]

Brita, many clothing mods and QoL mods Converted B41 to B42

it took me one whole day to fix them all and make thm somehow usable with new functions from B42.

[forest shore]

Guess you can't really do a full primitive run at this moment. Which kind of sucks.

[static heart]

yes, that's the main reason i waited for B42

[wet timber]

they gonna tell us it's been joke for 2 years that you would have option to make primitive run lo

[wet timber]

only spike armor, hoodie, boonie hat and shemagh are from vanilla

[glacial cape]

Yeah this seems to be the inital crafting stage, however they did put in their upcoming features in their blog that it would be expanded upon

[forest shore]

Yea I know - but I had hoped starting from nothing would be doable. Seems to not be the case.

[finite marsh]

how did you do that ?

[wet timber]

found out new b42 mod structure and i had some prior lua experience to fix all errors

[finite marsh]

so you can play with Brita without any errors ?

[static heart]

"using rocks and clay"

[wet timber]

yeah

[carmine harbor]

When npc's are going to come to the game?

[finite marsh]

bro you such a genius

[wet timber]

Stage 1 NPC - Build 43

[vague trench]

build 43 , no eta

[carmine harbor]

Thanks

[wet timber]

nah xd

i converted KATTAJ clothes and skin retextures too bczu he is going to work on that in weekend and i was too lazy to wait

i love his hip holster

[finite marsh]

I am waiting for Brita and Spongies Clothings to update

[glacial cape]

Yeah I wonder how they're gonna handle getting ore

maybe foraging?

[glad pawn]

How do I make stairs in build 42

[finite marsh]

I just love rolling up my shirts

[static heart]

iron deposit

[forest shore]

Maybe there's an even more primitive version?

[static heart]

no unfortunately

@glacial cape also you can already melt most iron made object

[wet timber]

accept my invite

[glacial cape]

Oh really? Also really hoping that the iron ore respawns

[static heart]

ye i hope too

[forest shore]

I guess they didn't think about the fact you can't make a bucket without a forge...

It's like the chicken before the egg.

[static heart]

that would be awkward

i hope the next patch will just remove this cement of clay

[forest shore]

Where can I find clay? Just put in the woods?

[static heart]

yes you'ill get some with foraging

[forest shore]

Cool. Time to forage and see if I can make a forge I guess lol

[blazing coral]

did you notice you can pick up some of the stuff from the ground in the woods without foraging? like branches and rocks

[vague trench]

yah i love that so much

[keen gorge]

I just found out you can disassemble those bars that prevent you from getting into the good gun stores now. No more hunting for sledgehammers or fire shenanigans

[static heart]

well, if you find a bucket + sand + bags then ok, but if you find all these, you probably don't need any primitive stuff lul

[glacial cape]

Can also make a sledgehammer fairly easily

[static heart]

there are so many bug reports https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/forum/85-bug-reports/

[glacial cape]

Yeah idk how I feel about that, it could just be because its the inital stage now but how are we gonna get sand out in the wilderness and I found many anvils in a warehouse

[static heart]

yes exactly

all the primitve craft are pointless rn

[glacial cape]

also don't like the reliance on skill books and the xp rates seem low

[wet cargo]

249 pages jesus

[static heart]

you can take the trait "wilderness" which give you boost for Knapping and Carving and Maintenance @glacial cape

[vague trench]

LOL

[glacial cape]

only primitive thing I've made is a crude stone axe and its been lasting way longer than b41 stone axe

[wet cargo]

thats a lot of bugs

[glacial cape]

Already a month into a run so I guess that's for next time

[keen gorge]

Anybody tried this yet?

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/1him86k/b42_crafting_is_kinda_broken_but_you_can_fix_it/

[static heart]

There are also bugs from 2018 to now

25 pages related to B42 for now

[static heart]

amazing thanks buddy

someone should make it a mod "Fix Craft in B42"

[frozen wyvern]

It's a beta, why are you surprised there are bugs

That's the damn point

[static heart]

why are you reacting like we are complaining ? Relax

[visual trail]

the whetstone recipe can easily be fixed by deleting a line

[halcyon hollow]

My character just woke up and said "Ugh my arm is numb", day before I overexerted it in the combat... This is so cool.

[visual trail]

rest of the crafting needs more attention in future updates

[blazing coral]

you'll also grunt from accute pain which I imagine may attract zombies
also happens when you remove the bandage from a wound. but won't happen after the wound healed

[static heart]

I guess we could also change this

[glacial cape]

What is the point of crafting your own crafting bench when you can find the crafting benches in loot :)

[dusk plume]

Why is this a thing?

[static heart]

You shouldn't ask

[dusk plume]

I wonder what the odds are of finding something like this, because rat kings are like once a century type stuff

[glacial cape]

you need level 6 carp for a composter bin

[vague trench]

rat king!!!

the best thing evar!!! gimme it lol

[amber jasper]

I actually work in woodworking

at least Im learning it right now

[frozen wyvern]

All hail the rat king

[glacial cape]

Would you say that is accurate? The skill level to make a composter bin

[dusk turret]

you can make a log wall but you cant make a box

[amber jasper]

No not really, all it is, is basically just a box

[dusk turret]

what the hell

[amber jasper]

anyone could do it with some screws and a screwdriver and it would take maybe 20 minutes depending on how much effort you are putting into it

its like making a shelf kinda, just some planks and screws really

[dusk turret]

you mean nails and hammer

screwdriver is to drive a screw out

[amber jasper]

Screwdriver can be used both ways

[dusk plume]

Is there any way I can fix a bite on myself in singleplayer? I usually play MP so whenever I get an unfair bite (or when I'm having too much fun to end the run) I give myself godmode for a second which cures all my ailments.

[amber jasper]

Oh, Im sorry I was thinking of a drill

[dusk turret]

bleach your wound

[brazen jetty]

Did anyone try spawning molotovs using debug mode? Do they behave as usual?

[real fox]

how do i chuck zombies through window

[dusk plume]

Haw, Haw, very funny

[dusk turret]

haw haw, your question is stupid

[amber jasper]

[real fox]

i know how to grab them but cant find a option to actually chuck the fuckers out the window lol

[static heart]

debug mode -> cheat -> Body -> turn isinfected to false

[spare breach]

theres mods for that, idk if they work/are updated for B42 yet though

[ocean island]

How can you put a generator in a car? When I tried it drops the generator upon attempting to enter.

[spare breach]

alright nevermind

[dusk turret]

boatfly

[amber jasper]

Btw does anyone know whether or not mods will be b42 or b41 (or if they updated)

[vague trench]

might need a trailer, can you open the car door manually and see if it goes in that way?

[static heart]

@dusk plume also decrease the infection level to 0

[amber jasper]

I dont think so, and if you do, you would die from the fumes probably

[dusk turret]

every single mod will be updated to b42 in 5 hours and 2 minutes

any mods not updated will be deleted

[vague trench]

can we drop these on players head?

[amber jasper]

idk abt bites but you can switch infection causes to no bites or somethig like that

[static heart]

he means for the transport

[keen gorge]

I like how all my engagements with hunting so far is by roadkill

[dusk plume]

If you're looking for mods to add, tag your search in the workshop with 'Build 42' in the rightmost column

[amber jasper]

thanks @dusk plume

[dusk turret]

how often do you "hunt"

[vague trench]

the b42 tag should come after first hotfix i think nasko said

[static heart]

it's a known bug

[amber jasper]

I just put it in a trunk or seat of a car

[verbal sky]

Chat, Did the devs let us know when they’re gonna fix the RAM side issue ?

[keen gorge]

Often enough that I tweaked my builds to always have speed demon

[amber jasper]

I have never had a problem with it

[dusk plume]

The only issue I've had with B42 so far is the zombies flipping directions occasionally when you push them down.

[static heart]

they are hardworking for the fixes

[verbal sky]

Chat plz 🙏

[vague trench]

what issue?

[static heart]

no indication sry

[verbal sky]

Where did you got this ? Are these updates and fixes ?

[visual trail]

there are many that updated on workshop for b42

[verbal sky]

I and other users faced issue where the unstable freezes

[static heart]

@verbal sky these are current private branches devs are working on

[brazen jetty]

I think they'll drop first hotfix on 26th of December

[opaque schooner]

Press q to access them

[visual trail]

the tag b42 now is available

[verbal sky]

I meant the pic

[verbal sky]

On the game ?

[static heart]

https://steamdb.info/app/108600/depots/

[dusk plume]

Does anyone know if the bandits mod is working? I've got it enabled and it's tagged with B42, but I haven't ran into anyone, is it just bad luck?

[verbal sky]

Thank you so much!

[opaque schooner]

Yeah man

[vague trench]

yah im sure theyre aware just only been a few days so they got a lot to go through and fixs

[visual trail]

it has many bugs as of now, modder is working on fixing them

[verbal sky]

Oh okay, I’ll be patient!

[vague trench]

lol , you could try looking in #1019767076094758924 for anything similar in your issue maybe there is a workaround or osmething in the meantime

[static heart]

however i think they will focus on bugs rather than balancing for the first patch, don't you think ?

[verbal sky]

Thank you ! I haven’t thought about this, I’ll maybe look around or just ask.

[visual trail]

of course

also the mac version

[dusk plume]

What language is PZ written in? It's not python is it?

[visual trail]

java

java and lua

[hasty dagger]

so is there an explination of how shooting works now?

[dusk plume]

Do modders have to know both then?

[dusk plume]

Put the crosshair over the zombie, shoot.

[static heart]

basically that's it

[dusk plume]

I was using advanced trajectory on every run anyway, So there's no real difference for me

[vague trench]

i was aiming for their heads and it seemed to work for me fine

[opaque schooner]

Pick your shots and aim for the head, take a few seconds before each shot

[keen gorge]

Finally found that bunker they teased back

[wet timber]

you have to enable -debug on game launch commands and you will be able to delete infection

[dusk turret]

ohh thought that was on my end

[chrome fable]

they're working on it, from what I've heard from two devs so far

they're probably gonna drop a big patch with a bunch of bugfixes

[spare breach]

i thought the most urgent fixes would be live by now, such as the broken crude whetstone recipe. Oh well, modders got there faster i suppose

[chrome fable]

gotta wait for a bit

[static heart]

there is a manual fix buddy

[spare breach]

that does not change the reality that it's the players doing it themselves rather than the devs

[chrome fable]

not like that frees the devs from the responsibility of patching the game

[static heart]

yep but individually, it works

[spare breach]

i know it does, i got a mod for it

[static heart]

i'm just saying that if this bug is annoying u

[spare breach]

no i'm just upset that something like this has been "patched" by the players sooner than by the devs

its a crude crafting recipe so its something they wouldve come across pretty quick

[static heart]

i think the devs don't want to compile a version just for 3 lines in a .txt file

[chrome fable]

I already explained why that's happening, they're probably waiting to do a bunch of fixes to drop them in one big patch, so that players don't have to download a thousand annoying little patches

[vague trench]

its been like 3 days and they have more than just one bug to fix, it would be inefficent and disruptive to players to just update bugs as they fix them.

[chrome fable]

also the more patches the more the chance for mods to break again I imagine

[vague trench]

does anyone know if the little ratshits eat from our animal snacking containers?

[dusk plume]

I haven't even scratched the surface of B42, I've had to completely change my habits and think like I'm new again. B42 is a win for me, doesn't matter how many bugs I encounter

[blazing coral]

also, the fix is like a workaround, yes? They probably want to fix the underlying issue

[static heart]

exactly

[vague trench]

yeah exactly

[chrome fable]

do you like the muscle strain

[vague trench]

prolly a little mroe complicated than that to be honest

[static heart]

however i supposed the root cause is not really hard to fix either

[spare breach]

i believe it is a workaround yes, so it's not a complete replacement either. I believe the mod i have makes it so the whetstone recipe only requires 1 stone

[blazing coral]

https://tenor.com/view/ratjam-jam-rat-rat-dance-gif-19853529

[chrome fable]

sharing is caring

[vague trench]

lol nooo lmao i walked here with an animal

[dusk plume]

It's definitely a good addition to the game, I can't wait for the mod that adds blood doping.

[blazing coral]

someone please mod this animation to rats

[vague trench]

lmao

[civic drum]

@lyric saffron So, as you requested, I tried a new save, no mods, no other changes, and gave it 4-6 hours of play. Once again I've had the issue wherein I can no longer see "Info" with the crops. I'm not sure if this is working as intended or a bug to report. I was able to gather more information, however. The original crops that are no longer functioning were Radishes and Chives, both of which the info tip say can/should be planted in July. It is now August, and I just planted Garlic. When I click on the Garlic, the Info and Remove options show up normally. When I right-click either the Radishes or Chives, I only get the Remove option.

Interestingly, when I went to water the Garlic, I decided to check and see if the other other crops needed watering too. When I highlight over the Radishes and Chives, it says that the "furrow needs seeds." I'm hesitant to call this a bug, because as I understand it, August is a bad month for both of those crops, and maybe they're dead and therefore can't present information, but the textures haven't changed. Also, my Agriculture skill is currently 1. Is this working as intended, and I'm just stupid, or is there something here that needs reporting?

[blazing coral]

I'd waste a shotgun shell and risk a horde if a rat made this dance after eating my food

[dusk turret]

me too

[spare breach]

ok so im just here to tell you the mod doesnt work

[static heart]

cause it doesn't fix the original craft, it just add another craft that is working

[vague trench]

lmao

honestly , not my animal grain for cows

[chrome fable]

can't wait to overpump my character with tren

[wet cargo]

do you guys have any ideea when we are getting a patch to some of the bugs

[chrome fable]

the only thing they fear is an educated roider

[cyan ice]

Does the blacksmith trait and occupation give the same recipes or different ones?

[static heart]

nope

it could happen anytime

[spare breach]

nothing has shown up

[chrome fable]

everyone wants it as much as you bro, I can't even play the game rn because of the crashes

ive been checking steamdb and they seem to still be working on stuff so that's a good sign, hopefully they'll drop something before the 24th

because they'll definitely not be working for a few weeks after Christmas

[royal heron]

Rate my tent

[chrome fable]

which is understandable ofc

[chrome fable]

that place seems familiar

yeah it looks nice

[royal heron]

Made it all myself with the brush tool :D

[heavy crown]

Wait is Fit/Athletic just gone in current B42 as starting traits? Gonna restart to make sure

[vague trench]

where is that?!

oh lol

[brazen jetty]

you can build tents???

[vague trench]

is the sheep shy lol

[glacial cape]

Generator finally! Shame all my food went rotten before I managed to grind the electrical to operate one

[civic drum]

I feel that, I was lucky to find a generator mag in Coalfield.

[vague trench]

and helicopter has to come now

[amber jasper]

wdym

[pallid hinge]

Been playing my apoc run and I kinda miss multiple helis (had sometimes helis on my server)

[hallow sail]

What is coalfield?

[civic drum]

Western historical reenactment town, it's a wonderful place. All the antique ovens, cookware, and animal troughs you'll ever need.

[pallid hinge]

I need to check it out still, was there many zombies?

[vague trench]

ooo noice

[civic drum]

Wasn't bad.

One of the reenactment houses had an alarm, and it summoned maybe 30-40?

[hallow sail]

Interesting…

[pallid hinge]

😆

[civic drum]

Oh, and even better, hurricane lanterns. Fantastic light source.

[royal heron]

No no with the brush tool (debug)

[brazen jetty]

[civic drum]

So relating to scarcity, I feel like hinges and knobs are less likely when taking apart doors now.

[pallid hinge]

Wasn't that related to skill level previously?

I almost always just used the ones I would find from broken doors tbh (I always played with enviro damage on)

[civic drum]

Maybe, but I'm skill 3, and I haven't seen much from zombie damage either

[pallid hinge]

oh wild, they are like everywhere on my playthrough lol

[civic drum]

Also, chickens are much better at egg production than turkeys.

[vague trench]

WAIT where is it

is it on the left side of the map

[vague trench]

oh sweet by dan dans

[civic drum]

Yeah, Spiffo told me to burn that place down.

[vague trench]

lol damnit i drove past its like freaking 5 times

[pallid hinge]

🤣

[vague trench]

@lyric saffron SPIFFO lol !!!

[pallid hinge]

🔥

[vague trench]

was it because of the power bar lmao

[civic drum]

Beats me, I was just following orders, after MadDan refused my refund.

[pallid hinge]

Does powerbar actually have a use? Other than disassembly

[vague trench]

lol

[vague trench]

lol that would be funnny if we had to start plugging in things to outlets

omg and make it so only so many things can be powered by it lmao

[pallid hinge]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if that is the direction we are going

[vague trench]

ahahha

[civic drum]

I have 50 eggs after 3 days with my chickens.

My character is going to be eating only eggs, forever.

[wet timber]

:exhausted_moodle:

[static heart]

🫂

[vague trench]

eggs n butter lol

[civic drum]

No cows, so just eggs.

[vague trench]

BUTTER!!!

[civic drum]

And maybe some garlic if I can get my crops working.

[vague trench]

bull scared

[pallid hinge]

don't get too close it might try and murder you

[spare breach]

I find it dumb how i get scratched from going through foliage 3 times and then get to an "agony" pain moodle from having those places disinfected like BRO calm down its not that bad

[vague trench]

this ones nice lol i was very reluctant to take him out of the trailer i found him in , but hes nice

[spare breach]

the medical system really needs a rework

[hallow sail]

💀

[solid topaz]

Were there any changes to how clothing washers work? I’m trying to run a load and it worked before, but now the “turn on” button doesn’t appear. The dryer still works. Do I need soap or detergent now or smth?

[digital cloud]

what’s down there

[vague trench]

its bugged lol

[digital cloud]

oh

[vague trench]

i had to login to debug to get out of it

[digital cloud]

the basement?

[cunning turtle]

[pallid hinge]

❤️

[vague trench]

yah hang on , i live by it ill show u

[glacial cape]

Is it bugged as a troll from the devs or just a straight up bug?

[heavy crown]

Oh, if you select Athletic and then Slow Metabolism, it's a workable trait combination, but if you load that profile or select Slow Metabolism first then Athletic is abolished from the selectable traits list until you restart the game

[digital cloud]

[static heart]

wot it has substitution dude, look at the right

[digital cloud]

really

[glacial cape]

Wonder if fear of blood and smoker combo still works

I took fear of blood but was too reluctant to take smoker after hearing its been nerfed and that apparently the endurance loss is quicker as a smoker

[heavy crown]

I presume that Slow Metabolism is supposed to be incompatible with Fit/Athletic, but what ends up happening is that selecting it just removes those two options from the list of selectable traits, period.

[vague trench]

no not a troll

[lyric saffron]

Can you DM me please, so we don't annoy people while investigating it

[heavy crown]

tbh smoker is probably more of a millstone than fear of blood right now.

[glacial cape]

millstone?

[vague trench]

you try and walk there oyu just float in the void and have to teleport out

[digital cloud]

damn

[vague trench]

i forgot my flashlight lol

[chrome fable]

let's go we got the first bugfix, hopefully my game won't crash now

[visual trail]

didn't find any atm, just disassembled it

[heavy crown]

The phrase "a millstone around your neck" is a metaphor that means a heavy burden or responsibility that is difficult to bear

Anyways, I have not seen nearly enough cigarettes from playing around to really justify smoker. You can probably deal with the fear of blood with a lot of washing and reading the various entertainment books

[civic drum]

Hold up, what was the Chickenpocalypse?

[static heart]

NICE

[opaque schooner]

Thousands of chickens spawning

[static heart]

NICE

[visual trail]

where ?

[civic drum]

That is not something I've seen.

[dusk plume]

Anyone else notice Nasko named the patchnotes 41.0.1 rather than 42.0.1

[civic drum]

And now I'm sad that I'll never see the Chickenpocalypse.

[visual trail]

where this ?

[static heart]

#patchnotes @visual trail

[vague trench]

yay lemme see if it works now

[heavy crown]

Chickens breeding too fast with no restraint, causing a performance-exploding feedback loop

[visual trail]

yep I see nice

[glacial cape]

Yeah fear of blood is very manageable

[visual trail]

thanks

[static heart]

@formal mango

[glacial cape]

you could easily beat the depression from high stress with anti depressents

[opaque schooner]

It still happened, even if you didn’t see it man

[visual trail]

Naskooooo blast from the past !!

;)))

[heavy crown]

The problem with stress is that it lowers melee damage, which makes it even worse on the feedback loop in starting game

[civic drum]

Yeah, and now I'm sad, I could have had a chickenpocalypse, but got stuck with zombies instead.

[opaque schooner]

Guys we’re going back in time to b41

[vague trench]

lol

[dusk plume]

I hate the bandits mod. Ruined my playthrough, Met actual John Wick inbetween Riverside and Brandenburg

[glacial cape]

Wiki states its very minimal though, we're talking about a 0.3 melee dmg decrease

[visual trail]

told u

[wet timber]

i found ratocalypse in second house after spawn xD

[static heart]

MAC USERS

[flat phoenix]

Are the iron deposits in the build?

[static heart]

nope

[visual trail]

it's full of bugs atm

[glacial cape]

I've used it for a while and never felt the melee damage decrease was that harsh even now in b42, although I guess if you're experienced enough in melee combat it doesn't really matter

[static heart]

you mean with the new hotfix lul ?

[wet timber]

so when i will click on sink the options to USE fookin sink will appear now?

[visual trail]

bandits mod

[glacial cape]

its also a +5 points and doesn't give constant panic states like fear of outdoors/indoors (unless you're performing first aid)

[visual trail]

let me.read those patch notes

[spare breach]

HOORAY

[vague trench]

yay thnx for fixins

[delicate rover]

do we know if its intended that we cant choose sorting priority on container items now? like backpacks/fanny packs etc

[heavy crown]

I forget how the melee damage decrease works on whether it's flat or a percentage. Either way that can be kinda huge when it diffs the amount of hits pretty badly, especially post-muscle strain

[dim venture]

yayyy patch notes

finally slow mode died down

[civic drum]

I wonder if the hotfix will let be bathe.

[glacial cape]

Fair enough, might need to re evaluate taking it in b42 at least in b41 it wasn't a problem because muscle strain didn't exist

so far I've managed fine with it all it means is due to the extra hits and stuff it just means I gotta take extra scheduled combat breaks

[vague trench]

rofl

[blazing coral]

Very long stick got nerfed

[civic drum]

It's a serious problem! All of my clothes are dirty, the water's off, and I can't use rain barrels to clean myself or the clothes.

[vague trench]

lil stinkerson lol

[heavy crown]

Reaaalllly depends on the build I think.

If it lets you swing Strong+Athletic, yea sure go for it.
If you're already going below 5 on strength and fitness I really wouldn't want to deal with that ontop of it

[vague trench]

wait are you the one that lives in the western town? is there a lake or anything by it

[wet timber]

what is happening with using those fucking sinks, guys? I can't use many of them, right clicking on them but no options -_-

[civic drum]

No, I'm at the rest area near the town. There's no lake or river.

[vague trench]

okay tanks

[opaque schooner]

Probably no water man, calm down

[vague trench]

can you take apic of it?

[drifting shell]

Hey look, a patch

[chilly atlas]

get his ass

[chilly atlas]

u have to pixel hunt for some of them, if its a counter sink thats near a window try clicking on the floor of the tile its on

[civic drum]

All right, so still can't bathe in barrels, or plumb barrels to sinks or showers.

[dim venture]

thank you 😢got worried

[glacial cape]

I can show you my current build can't say its really optimal

[wet timber]

that's horrible actually

[ember elbow]

!bugreports

[sacred bison]

Your report on Discord might end up being lost to the void. Please report bugs on our forums or Steam:

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/forum/85-bug-reports/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/6/

[wet timber]

i can click on the ground and there are windows option

[glacial cape]

Where are you viewing the patch notes?

[dim venture]

#patchnotes

[weary wasp]

they're also posted on steam

[glacial cape]

oh that channel I don't have lol

[chilly atlas]

yeah it sucks, its not a new bug tho

[vague trench]

lol

[vague trench]

gimme sec im making a new game

[wet timber]

do you want cords and screen?

[vague trench]

can you make a new game and go back there? and see if it still does it?

[wet timber]

yeah gimme a second

[autumn pier]

I think it would be a good idea if we could kill zeds with hard cover books

[wet timber]

you can with stones, same thing haha

[dim venture]

has anyone else been getting issues with exercising? getting stuck after finishing

[ember elbow]

Fixed not being able to open doors when another timed action was being carried out.
the game is now playable

[velvet egret]

does each hot fix break saves?

[vague trench]

is that like when we ate n stuff?

[ember elbow]

yeah, if you were actively eating food you could not open doors. irritating to no end

[vague trench]

ahh yeah i ran into some doors doing that lol

[ember elbow]

hot fixes shouldn't break saves if it's within the same beta, if they do, they will note that specifically

[wet timber]

There is now an option from the sink but it does not expand, I can still break the window or act with it by clicking on the floor tho

[chilly atlas]

i literally thought this was intentional....................................

[glacial cape]

same

[velvet egret]

thanks!

[vague trench]

i made one because that map void thingie was still on my old save , no clue if it was because i was already there before, new save its fine

[glacial cape]

well I;m not gonna complain now I can eat & open doors

[ember elbow]

if this was intentional i think i would kill myself. it makes it so annoying to do basically anything lmao

[wet timber]

they're helping me with checking on it lmao

[vague trench]

lol snack n go

[chilly atlas]

didnt impact me much, i was usually just eating while walking when it came up

[ember elbow]

yeah. i still don't know if the "unable to clamber fences while doing any timed actions" is intentional, we'll find out. at least that one makes some degree more sense but is still annoying for some actions

[glacial cape]

Anyone check if whetstone recipe works now?

[chrome fable]

btw why is plumbing removed?

[wet timber]

@vague trench

[ember elbow]

non-required features get massively turned down for new betas to make there be as little chance as possible of everything breaking. it will get re-enabled over time along with a lot of other stuff

[verbal sky]

LETS FREAKING GOOOOO

[chrome fable]

yessir

[chrome fable]

hopefully they'll re-enable it soon

[vague trench]

yah thats weird , on regular apoc settings?

[dim venture]

you guys like fishing? i find it rly fun and the sound effects are chefs kiss

found it easy until i stuck a bigger bait on and it got pulled and was struggling for like 10 seconds before the line broke😭

10/10 thank you aiteron

[wet timber]

yup

[glacial cape]

They are reworking it

[sly pivot]

I regret to inform you all. TAA was NOT made a toggleable option. 😔

[chrome fable]

did they say how they're gonna change it?

[ember elbow]

praying that they figure out a way to reimplement spear fishing in a way that makes sense, i get that it was way busted before but they gotta re-add it back at some point given the focus on primitive technology

[vague trench]

guess you can bug report it , if its a common place though , i would make sure nobody else already reported it firth

[dim venture]

ohh did they say that? bc if so that’s hype bc they mentioned how they’ll change plumbing a whileee back

how you’ll ac need pipes or smth

[worn dust]

does anyone know if the stones are rarer than guns ? ive spent the better yet of an hour looking for stones to make a campfire and ive only found 2 with stones set as search focus ive looked everywhere roads forests everywhereee is there not maybe another way to make a campfire in b42?

[vague trench]

fishing is so good now , it was so boring in 41 lol

[wet timber]

i will check if nobody reported it by cords, and yeah it is common place

[dim venture]

tell me about it

says abundant in roads and i find like 2 and it sucks when it’s flint

[chrome fable]

that would be cool, because in b41 plumbing is too easy

[ember elbow]

highways with 3-4 forage minimum are still your best bet

[worn dust]

EXACTLY ITS DRIVING ME NUTS

[worn dust]

ive gone down the entire highway dude

[dim venture]

forge needing 40 stone blocks yikes

[vague trench]

you can pick them up if you see them like this have you tried that?

[ember elbow]

wasn't that a longer term project goal? implementing electrical/piping systems that make sense instead of just magically having stuff connected in a radius/being above or below a barrel? i thought that was a ways off

[glacial cape]

.

[worn dust]

wha

[blazing coral]

You can pick the stones out of the scenery now

[vague trench]

lol yah

and sticks n stuff, super useful

[worn dust]

your fucking joking me right?

like say this is a joke please. then i dont look like an idiot

[pallid hinge]

Oh just noticed we got a hotfix

[glacial cape]

by the "Chickenpocalypse" In the patch notes is that why my chickens were laying like 80-100 eggs every 2-3 weeks

[vague trench]

hey a lot of us didnt know that lol , not about idiot , new feature we all learning things so dont be hard on yourself

[rain geode]

chickenpocalypse
Lol

[glacial cape]

is that patched now? Is my egg supply gone D:

[dim venture]

i’m gonna try to find the post about plumbing a while back since it’s confirmed they’re overhauling it

if my memory serves me right, they also talked about overhauling generators and ways to power up but that seems to be on the back burner or canceled for now

[pallid hinge]

I think so

[glacial cape]

or its not been added in yet, they do have expanded crafting listed as their planned updates for b42

[worn dust]

fair enough thank you sorry just ive been here for an hour dude i feel like mush

[silk nova]

still not possible to put a candle in in a candle stick and turn on/off on the ground?

[glacial cape]

and there's a lot of crafting features mentioned in the dev blog not yet added or missing

[vague trench]

no need ot be sorry lol , i accidently found it by trying to pick up some grass and was like oh what the heck

[dim venture]

true and plumbing was only mentioned bc someone asked so hopefully they answer the generator one too

[glacial cape]

obviously not every feature they show in the blogs will be in the final product but still

[worn dust]

XDD also do you want a really good base location

[glacial cape]

this still sin't the final product for b42 so there's still hope :P

[autumn pier]

Bitten.

[dim venture]

same

[chilly atlas]

its a new feature in a build that came out 2 days ago, ur good

[glacial cape]

[autumn pier]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid4-mgs4-solid-snake-old-snake-becoming-old-gif-24179307

[blazing coral]

I think I only found out because I had a mod for that in b41 and muscle memory kicked in

[chilly atlas]

everyones still learning abt the update

[vague trench]

where lol ill put it on my list of things

[vague trench]

haha , worked in your favor yar?

[chilly atlas]

me when im holding the stick that makes u old

[sleek hinge]

how can i report a bug?

[ember elbow]

!bugreports

[sacred bison]

Your report on Discord might end up being lost to the void. Please report bugs on our forums or Steam:

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/forum/85-bug-reports/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/6/

[dim venture]

kinda sad that ppl are instantly modding their game bc we supposed to be bug reporting and having mods won’t help

[autumn pier]

I’m actually pretty upset that I died so I’m gonna do the only logical thing and play CCDA

[outer rock]

Will there be another patch before Christmas?

[dim venture]

maybe maybe not

[worn dust]

the gated community here

[dim venture]

i like that they released before upcoming thursdoid so it could be about the aftermath instead of teasers

[worn dust]

and then this little house middle of echo creek

[ember elbow]

can't really blame people, when you're used to a certain kind of play people will want to fall back into that, but if people are actively trying to make bug reports when they've heavily modded their game that's kind of insane

[dim venture]

devs don’t accept reports if u have mods enabled

[mossy delta]

people want new content and mods are a good source because there's a lot of them and no need to wait for a full fleshed update

[static heart]

the thing is, they cannot know if you have mods installed so they will trust your bug report

[worn dust]

does anyone know how to make big stone into small stone?

[vague trench]

echo crik is easily one of my fav spawns now

[worn dust]

dude same