Hallodoid

[sinful geode]

No, you don't have to, you didn't know

I am just makig it clear that bear or moose or any wild animal shoud be treated with respect in the wild and always keep your distance from them

There are plenty of vids of people feeding them which is wrong and others getting attacked, humanity is doomed btw, but that's another subject

[drowsy relic]

you're in the right discord for doomed humanity

[dusty lake]

oh yeah, definitely.

[finite glacier]

[cursive fulcrum]

I'm going to kick a walrus in the arse

[drowsy relic]

well, a "cool dude" sounds cool right now

[dusty lake]

bro comes out of nowhere with this xD

[finite glacier]

tell it to ligma

[paper cobalt]

Animal abuse is not cool

[finite glacier]

lol

[drowsy relic]

if Pat can outmatch a walrus, just wait until he encounters a mindgoblin in the wilds

[vapid zenith]

I'm assuming you can edit the amount of meat you get in sandbox settings to keep it a bit more gamey

And yes the pun is intentional

[sinful geode]

this walrus disagrees

[lean forge]

pet walrus

[sinful geode]

also try aiming for the face if you're up to the task

[vapid zenith]

*tusk

[sinful geode]

friendly reminder, it's skin is so thick you need a 12 inch-gauge or more needle to penetrate that

[finite glacier]

my grandma has a necklace made of walrus whiskers they feel like hard pieces of plastic lol

[sinful geode]

because they're brittle by this time no doubt

[finite glacier]

land scrubbers using whiskers to scrub a dub

[finite glacier]

no theyre still whatever theyre made out of it

[sinful geode]

maybe they're hallowed out

since the tusks are compact bones

should resemble full and hard structure to the touch

[serene bough]

what did i just join into

[drowsy relic]

we're living in 2024, so it's definitely not a "Steam D...." whatever you implied

[sinful geode]

missed by an "I"

[serene bough]

this too

[sinful geode]

yeah I would like to see Pat kick that

[paper cobalt]

Npc from build 43?

[sinful geode]

and then watch as he gets devoured

[serene bough]

no just some work photos TIGS sent out

[sinful geode]

yes, to be expected

[fluid trench]

whats the worst thing to do when a bear approaches you

[sullen coral]

dance in front of it

[sinful geode]

pee

pee in the pants

[paper cobalt]

Aks him when is b42 coming

[sinful geode]

this too

[sinful geode]

if it's bear grylls, extend a friendly hello

[finite glacier]

lol what in reeses peanutbutter frick

[finite glacier]

lmao STOP

[fluid trench]

is B42 actually in a month

[finite glacier]

i would just tell yourself decembers

give some squish room

[fluid trench]

ill squish myself then for 3 months

[worn lava]

I am excited for cows

[sinful geode]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/0/4626978969929909484/#c4626978969929914492

read this

comment sections to be more specific

[sturdy oak]

Likely December

Definitely not November since they still have weeks of testing to do.

[neon mason]

[rough oxide]

also december's the holidays so

[sinful geode]

If Build Menu and the feedback are operational / good, they can launch it in November as well, but that's a big IF and it's my opinion > realistic would be December

[signal sparrow]

the community in December:
“either the first half or the second half of December”

the community during the second half of December:
“it’s gonna be before Christmas or after Christmas and either before or after midday”

[finite glacier]

lol

[glad burrow]

Assuming nothing goes wrong (and it still can, that's life) it'll be out by the end of december

At least that's what I think

[fluid trench]

well b42 is guaranteed in atleast 5 months

i can live

[sinful geode]

they keep askin

remember the chatter on Halloween when most believed it's gonna launch ?

that's what is happening since that day, people show up asking b42 when ?

Everyone shows up and says he thinks that: bla bla bla end of December, 2024, this year, last month of the year, couple of months, etc like they need some sort of reassurance that what they read and believe is true.

[versed kestrel]

working away on modlist

[sinful geode]

grabbed your popcorn ?

[signal sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-the-pet-collective-yummy-popcorn-raccoon-gif-16894090

[sinful geode]

:))

[signal sparrow]

`[Reporter] - one resident describes her horrifying experience when she first realized there was a zombie.

[Sweet Orange] - well, I woke up to get me a cold pop and then I thought somebody was barbequing. I said ‘oh, lord Jesus, it’s a zombie.’ Then I ran out, I didn’t grab no shoes or nothin’ Jesus, I ran for my life. And then the smoke got me, I got bronchitis. Ain’t nobody got time for that.`

[sinful geode]

No time to die

found any new open threads 😉 ?

[signal sparrow]

nah lol a moderator locked them all now

[lean forge]

glad that there was play testing from many people including some fans for build 42

[finite glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/ha-ha-nelson-the-simpsons-gif-14411011

[signal sparrow]

lol

[lean forge]

no bumping the old threads RIP

[finite glacier]

very hump dink

i dont even think that was the right word

[signal sparrow]

[south hill]

[finite glacier]

thats cute

[south hill]

I can just almost imagine the raccoon making the "Nom Nom Nom" Sound effect from TF2 Heavy. It's just not a sandwich

[lunar tangle]

quite the chonker

[slate sapphire]

let them cook fr no cap

[half musk]

How tf there are still no car door animations in build 42, this shit should be patched a few month after you added cars 😂

[finite glacier]

Prolly other priorities and theres mods isnt there?

[half musk]

This must be in base game since they added cars. You cant use mods for every unfinished part of the game. People like you are the reason this game will never be done

[finite glacier]

Cpuld make a suggestion on steam forums, im sure theyll get to it when they can

[signal sparrow]

and don’t forget to ask about car door animations tomorrow! You’re on a two day streak so far

[finite glacier]

Ok well im not suggesting people to the forums no more wtf -.-

[steel gulch]

Are the certain cars back seats meant to be invincible to zombies?

[fluid trench]

chevalier dart

[steel gulch]

Yes

Is it meant to be that way?

[fluid trench]

i dont think so, since the zeds need a door to get to you

[steel gulch]

thank you

[sinful geode]

thank you for sharing, have a nice day

[sinful geode]

no shite ? you really think that ? we should tell them

[drowsy relic]

aww shit, here we go again

[sinful geode]

yeah he just comes drops stuff like that and then silence

either an agitator or just natural annoying

[drowsy relic]

mandatory one-liners just to spite the game while actively playing it and paid for it once in the past in its very much not ready state but didnt read the "early access" part

[sinful geode]

yeah I loath that kind of people, can't play the game and trash it at the same time , they need to make up their minds

[sturdy oak]

It’ll be exciting to read the next dev blog, likely another testing feedback related blog.
Or maybe we get to see the build ui.

[versed kestrel]

I ❤️ TIGS. 🎉

[signal sparrow]

[sinful geode]

morning love ?

unscathed wood ?

[frigid sapphire]

This message is so funny

What the hell, puppers. People like YOU are the reason PZ won't be finished ever

[west galleon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMTsmVoLO7g zomboid npcs driving 🤯

[mental token]

When we get NPCs, most of us are probably going to let the NPCs drive around, since they can dodge and turn better than players.

[slate sapphire]

we got self driving NPC's before b43

[drowsy relic]

somehow I don't think I wish to lose my character if the said NPC drives me to a horde of zeds or crashes with max speed

[steel gulch]

Is this a mod?

[drowsy relic]

its already funny when locally hosting and playing with a friend and I randomly break my legs driving on an empty road, at least I'm the one driving even if the weird unsync is not my fault, but better die that way 😛

[sullen coral]

what if the npc is ryan gosling

[drowsy relic]

I'm not Margot Robbie so I don't think he'll care to keep me alive

[sullen coral]

driving lvl 11

[sinful geode]

this so delicate in terms of combat with NPCs, it all comes down to who shoots faster, you or the NPCs, and how will this chance of stun / gun locking will play out.

[sturdy oak]

I hate the stunlock animation

I’d prefer to just have flinching, because once you hit that stunlock animation it’s over

[raw seal]

what i like is that theyre very obviously people just like us

like theyre obviously just discord messages

which is nice it makes it seem a lot more real

[west galleon]

No

[untold sentinel]

Does anyone have a estimate on when b42 is actually coming out? my sibling is asking

[west galleon]

twenty twenty four

[sturdy oak]

We can only guess but likely sometime in December since the plan is still to release in 2024 and they still have weeks of testing to do.

[untold sentinel]

Ok I will let my sibling know, thank you

[frigid sapphire]

2 years before, in fact—this was from a blog, not a mod (I misread as b42. You may ridicule me): https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/03/the-zuckerverse/

[fluid trench]

dude i love TIGS

keep it coming

[sinful geode]

scroll back through messages

[fallen badger]

by design to reap the maximum benifits with minimum effort

We have not been given one piece of evidence that the play testers are in fact real independent testers. The statements made on in game mechanics has the vibe of fake amazon reviews. Every Thursdoid seeming thinner and thinner..

[finite glacier]

what makes you think that

because its not how you would have worded it?

like how is it any different from a pz review you find on steam

i dont see anyone complaining about those

[fallen badger]

what publisher rests their laurels on a single developed game in their portfolio for over a decade? I dont have any programing skills or anything.. its just strange for indie to not have any other ip's in the works over the years..

[thin shadow]

can't wait for the update. so hyped

[fallen badger]

Im referring to the statements of the playtesters in Hallodoid. They seem bland and well.. curated

[finite glacier]

a lot of the people in tis have helped create other games?

[finite glacier]

i think its clear and to the point , i dont really want to be spoiled on things i can find out for myself when unstable releases

[sturdy oak]

I don’t see anything wrong with TIS not having other ips? Why would they need to with how successful pz is? They are a small studio that is expanding their team.

[fallen badger]

even the scam company that made that one vaporware zombie game has propnight in their portfolio. I hope Indie finishes this one this decade to see what they might cook up next. Polish art and gaming is intense.

cp2077, Witcher, Scorn.. all Polish I beleive

[sturdy oak]

I don’t understand what you’re complaining about?

[fallen badger]

I want them to finish their first game before my children grow up

[finite glacier]

if you go to the wiki you can see what the devs in tis worked on, im not understanding some of them worked on mafia , no mans sky and alien isolation

[wild roost]

The day before moment

[finite glacier]

im 40 i dont get this , its annoying i see it come up a lot, let them create a game that is going to last long after were all gone

[fallen badger]

I watched the day before crumble for 4 years while promising the moon. Lot of vaporware out there being announced

[wild roost]

The Day Before was one of the most disliked game in steam

[wet fern]

why does it matter

[cursive fulcrum]

Don't feed the trolls

[finite glacier]

FINE

[lean forge]

trolls are bad

[wild roost]

True, true.

[finite glacier]

remember the colored hair trolls though lol

whers pzs version

[fallen badger]

A lot of companies are attracting the ire of consumers for launching incomplete games and drawing out the content, never finishing the product etc. I Believe the legal precedent has been laid out for some egregious abusers of these early access games may be pivy to litigation.. Star Citizen's creators being probably the first company to get pegged in the near future. You may see more regulation of the gaming industry because of this..

[sturdy oak]

I’d very much rather TIS take their time finishing their game. I like the long development process.

[cursive fulcrum]

Dog Goblins

[finite glacier]

got it!

[fluid trench]

😨

[sinful geode]

Star Citizen (Chris Robert's company) has private investments from players exceeding 100k $ and they are pretty sure to drop more cash on that game seeing how development is going

All systems in Star Citizen are created in highly advanced environments

orbital flight, space combat, animations, everything has it's own team with subdivisions of devs working on them

that's why it takes so long to finish, sure some of it is due to Robert's bad management of subcontracting different companies for other aspects that lacked behind, but it's an highly advanced C++ game in terms of coding

can't compare it to no other EA game

and his dream for it is very very big

[frigid sapphire]

I wonder what the playtesters think about rotation of placed items with respect to a second axis (that is, a second axis of rotation for placed items). I bet they brought it up as something they'd like to see and it just didn't make it into the blog I bet

[sinful geode]

look at squadron 42, I remember it is due to launch next year, and that's SP only with backstory and lore behind it tied into the main game.
If I recall the game was in development for 10 years or so and we shall see how it goes down

[finite glacier]

lol

[sinful geode]

that's one thing

I am curious about that muscle strain

tho

it impacts combat more significantly than we believe

a very nice addition to realism and immersion

[fluid trench]

muscle strain..

we will be able to utilize our full body by straining our upper arms then kickboxing

leaving us completely fatigued and ripe for the eating

[shut moss]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3252228638&searchtext=muscle+strain

If you're curious, it's absolutely terrible lol

It makes it impossible to fight after a few zombies taken down, it's horrible

[golden patio]

🔵 imagine that then you start to get more combat endurance as your body adjusts, and eventually become stronger than what we currently see in b41

🔵 and while i don't know if it would fit in vanilla, different fighting styles for weapons could be cool

[lean forge]

I wonder if muscle relaxers will be added for any muscle pain or exercise fatigue.

[wet fern]

i feel like this would be kind of a nightmare to add without letting players have weird floating items

[frigid sapphire]

Decorative freedom should not be limited due to the whims of ne'er-do-well tricksters

Besides, weird floating items are already possible

[wet fern]

ive never seen any weird floating items im confused

all the vanilla items are just on the ground

[frigid sapphire]

It must be done intentionally, as rotation would be

[finite glacier]

theres no gravity in glothes

[golden patio]

🔵 even just a few manually added rotation states would be nice

[frigid sapphire]

This is true, but true freedom would be nicer

[golden patio]

🔵 absolutely
i just recalled a mod on the workshop that let you add a Z axis offset for placed items, that and the free rotation would be beautiful

[wet fern]

to add a second rotation axis you'd have to either let players move items up and down freely which means you could just have items floating in the air or theyd have to manually add another pivot point to every ground item model

[frigid sapphire]

The first option sounds entirely feasible to me. Even without it (only the 2nd axis) I'd be happy

[lean forge]

being able to lean a shotgun against wall

[versed kestrel]

This is the dream

[frigid sapphire]

Not having fire extinguishers on their side (yes I've seen the mod)

[wet fern]

the first option wouldnt be possible with just the 2nd axis though since items would just clip through the floor as soon as you rotate them

[frigid sapphire]

Depends on the item. It would be possible, just not ideal

[lean forge]

fire extinuisher case on a wall

[golden patio]

🔵 they're 3d models projected onto sprites, outside of being z-sorted behind a table or something that's a non issue

[wet fern]

a broom "clipping" through the 2d ground would still make the perspective wrong

[frigid sapphire]

So move it over a bit

[golden patio]

🔵 there is not going to be any clipping, it will just look funny until you move it

[wet fern]

it would still look wrong even if it cant visibly clip through the ground

[golden patio]

🔵 then that's on the player, if you have the tools to create this problem you can inherently fix it too

🔵 anyways, on the topic of the fire extinguisher, it would be awesome to have like a sub grid for placing actual tile items like microwaves and coffeemakers, so you don't have to place items exactly on the center of a tile even if it's a tiny lamp or something

[wet fern]

i mean no literally any vertical rotation would just make it go halfway through the floor in this case

[frigid sapphire]

That'd be neat, little offsets

[golden patio]

🔵 it.. can't clip, the tile an object is on is always rendered behind the object

[wet fern]

it wouldnt be able to prop up against a wall unless every item had a separate pivot just for rotating on that axis

[wet fern]

yeah it cant visibly clip but the item is still clipping through the floor plane

it would need to be moved up by the player

[golden patio]

🔵 yeah, just a little more variation

[wet fern]

otherwise its still at ground level

[golden patio]

🔵 you don't need extra pivots, if the item's world model is configured correctly you just... rotate around the origin point which usually is at the center of geometry

[wet fern]

yeah thats what makes it clip through the ground

every item would need the pivot moved to like the side-bottom so that it could be rotated vertically but that would also make regular rotation weird since youd be rotating around the side of the object

[golden patio]

🔵 then just keep the pivot centered and let people move it freely on the y axis

🔵 we have far worse than a few floating items given where you can build houses

[frigid sapphire]

Threw together a very, very rough Java mod out of curiosity

Definitely possible to get some weird angles, so I think the shifting up & down would be a requirement

...but imagine the possibilities

[golden patio]

🔵 dear god it's beautiful

[frigid sapphire]

Someday 🥲

[finite glacier]

then make it fall with a sound radius of 500

[fluid trench]

oh no

[frigid sapphire]

Upright broom falling easter egg would go crazy 🧠

[novel plinth]

Honestly I hope they increase the sound radius in b42

[finite glacier]

i been playing with the sound thingie i put it to 1000 but didnt notice anything lol

[novel plinth]

I assume it’s hardcoded

[finite glacier]

ya i wanted to see if it would like move hoards around more

[novel plinth]

YES

it would be awesome for mega hordes to form years later

[finite glacier]

with animals i finally have a reason to defend my shtuff instea dof just running away lol

[frigid sapphire]

I will leave my chickens to fend for themselves. Builds character

[finite glacier]

dont take away their strugglebussing lol

[serene bough]

I heard from Kenshi that Kenshi 2 is not gonna be early access and will just go into 1.0 because it’ll be a faster release

and i realized that makes sense since they don’t have to make whatever they have into a playable state and could focus on getting it right from the start.

so this might be the same as B42, releasing it a lot later when it’s rly playable will be on track to stable a lot quicker than releasing it early

[sinful geode]

I know, it's not balanced out, hope that this will get serious attention in b42 because it changes the way you handle combat and large groups of zombies

[shut moss]

Definitely

[marsh wigeon]

Obviously feedback willbe needed during unstable, but the objective is to change how players deal with hordes

[lean forge]

No more zombie kill farming.

[sinful geode]

Goes to show ya that what we see in those blog posts are just the tip of the iceberg of what's to come with this build

[finite glacier]

i cant wait to see what isnt in the blogs

[sinful geode]

I don't recall this being teased anywhere or maybe vaguely and no one paid attention

[serene bough]

i’ve always thought of this and my feedback would be to change speed of zombies from a veryyy small range. for example, if fast shamblers are 50 move speed, and sprinters are 100, that you make fast shamblers have a speed from 45-55 randomly. it’s barely noticeable individually but in a horde makes a lot of changes

i mentioned sprinters for a reference of speed

[finite glacier]

you mean an option ? not vanilla

[sinful geode]

yeah, after a couple of hours in-game, most players will understand why it's taken so long to get here

[finite glacier]

cause i used to play with sprinters and i just cannot anymore lol

[serene bough]

huh

i’m saying that’s a way to change how people deal with hordes

[finite glacier]

dumb it down like im a toddler

[golden patio]

🔵 pretty sure fast shamblers have a bit of speed variation already, but an option for a slightly more pronounced effect would be cool

[finite glacier]

would be nice to not have to rely on guns too , i like using melee weprs

[sinful geode]

tweaking zombie speed is not the same as adding a new feature or debuff that alongside it has a deep degree of realism and immersion

[finite glacier]

can i throw my chickens at them to peck

https://tenor.com/view/link-zelda-cuckoo-illestzz-run-gif-16788331

[serene bough]

so pretty much a horde is supposed to be a challenge you take on and supposed to be harder the more zombies are in a horse, so far that makes sense. However All you need is a basic formula to take on the horde and now all of a sudden a horde of 5 zombies, and a horde of 1000, are the same exact difficulty

[versed kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/chickens-zelda-gif-12794480

[serene bough]

so having different speed zombies will make it a lot different trying to kite them

[finite glacier]

make us fall if were walking backwards on grass

[serene bough]

i say different cuz it’s not necessarily harder face value, but it will def change it up a bit

[lean forge]

Glad the heat map won’t be an issue anymore

[serene bough]

yeah i was alr planning on doing wilderness and now they’re helping it more

actually now that i think about it, is the wilderness MAP gonna even have zombies?😂

bc the heat map is hand drawn no?

[lean forge]

I prefer to bug out to a rural area to escape the zombies

[serene bough]

tho it wouldn’t be that hard to make a wilderness heatmap cuz there’s no special areas

[lean forge]

Drives around rural farmlands near Riverside and end up finding large amounts of zombies

[sonic stump]

Im rly excited for rural roads to be less filled with zombies, since I find swerving around them to avoid wrecking my car extremely annoying

Obviously it makes sense in town but just on my way around the farms its rly annoying

[finite glacier]

yah some of those random roads theres a lot of clusters

[sonic stump]

frfr

[lean forge]

drives in a farmland and seeing large hoards of zombies

[golden patio]

🔵 driving down a gravel road only to see an entire concert of zeds in the middle of the road... just chilling

[finite glacier]

lol concert of them

[lean forge]

driving the dirt road to the military base near rosewood only to find hordes.

[golden patio]

🔵 the musical show of my death pretty much :3

[finite glacier]

ugh lol i spent forever chopping trees on that road and got there and was like never again

[lean forge]

having to loot that military base before the erosion fully takes over

[signal sparrow]

more concentrated groups of zombies in high-value areas, fencing no longer indestructible, muscle fatigue after killing a set amount of zombies, many traits being nerfed, and having to account for sharpness + handle + head condition during combat encounters to know when to back off

look forward to having the difficulty ramp up!

[lean forge]

a good challenge is one thing but making a game too tedious to play is something that players dont want to have.

[marsh wigeon]

It wasn't, just slipped in as feedback, I don't know if intentionally or not 😉

[finite glacier]

lol

[sinful geode]

Do we have a Discord channel for feedback and bug reports after Unstable releases? or it's just the forums ?

Got to admit reading that feedback with the muscle strain > art gentlemen, no doubt there will be more cool surprises

[hushed prairie]

lil bro really gave himself a username "God of Darkness" to then act like this online. KEK!

KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK naaaaaahhhh okay he had to be baiting for sure

this guy is funny as hell its a shame he left

[serene bough]

i’m like 60% sure i saw that you guys would look into ways to change fighting hordes in an old thursdoid

[finite glacier]

I wonder if march ridge will be easier to explore

Instead of curseridge

[hushed prairie]

btw ik its kinda offtopic for this thursdoid but I really hope that someone here will make a mod to change the new log cabin texture back to the old plank one cause the new one looks like absolute DOOKIE

also I hope it will be possible to turn off the new lighting because its too dark outside like if the moon is out at least a little it wont be this dark

[sinful geode]

Darkness intensity (my power) can manually be adjusted in sandbox settings

[hushed prairie]

shit, bro is above even the god of darkness, he's darkness himself

scary stuff mane

[sinful geode]

you can't "turn off" or "switch to" the old lightning system

[hushed prairie]

good enough

[sinful geode]

literally gave me acid reflux

[hushed prairie]

damn bro im sorry

[sinful geode]

don't be, it's probably in your programming

[hushed prairie]

true true

[signal sparrow]

I looked back on old Thursdoids. Didn’t find any mentions of that relating to muscle fatigue

that particular feedback text was in bold so pretty sure they accidentally put that in the blog

[sinful geode]

small teases for a trained eye

it's way better than any tweaks to zombie stats / properties, that's a technical approach with secondary impact more or less felt while this is different because it comes packed with realism and immersion, it's a new approach to combat and horde managing.

[lean forge]

since tall fences are going to be broken I wonder if the prison and military fences will be destructable by zombies

[finite glacier]

i hope so

i live up there in that checkpoint a few times , and it gets pretty boring , but the towers are so cool!

[hushed prairie]

there was a screenshot of a chainlink fence being broken by a horde of zoids in one of the previous thursdoids

[lean forge]

I always hated how climbing over a tall fence and the zombie hoards are smart to find how to get the player on the other side of the fence.

[finite glacier]

like this spot is really good but gets boring fast lol even with the hole in the fencer

[signal sparrow]

a boulder. Probably not meant to be there

[hushed prairie]

its a historical landmark

[lean forge]

seeing those planterns near those store fronts adds a nice attention to detail to the down town areas

Downtown areas do need to have more zombies than the suburban areas.

[signal sparrow]

not anymore

[hushed prairie]

😢

[signal sparrow]

possibly more long table variants

[finite glacier]

yay more dining psace for me and my chickens

[golden patio]

🔵 the more aggressive inside rendering in the walking through west point scene is nice, it always bugs us when we are looking at a building but it doesn't do the inside visuals because we're too far away

[signal sparrow]

indeed! No more opaque windows! Also, if that’s the view cone for our characters, then we probably won’t even need Eagle Eyed

[dusk panther]

!roadmap

[sinful geode]

maybe you prefer dancing

!dance

[paper mica]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/986951681822580736/1013627138454327296/breakdance.gif

[signal sparrow]

[raven wraith]

Hey I just noticed something in the blog post, have we actually seen "The discomfort system" in action yet?

[sinful geode]

nope, just read about it like you have, but also very curious about that too

like I've said, we are getting the tip of the iceberg in most of these posts, the rest will come with unstable and the updates that will follow

[soft dawn]

sooo

not a 2025 date?

2024*

[signal sparrow]

isn’t the discomfort system just when carrying a massive load? HP slowly goes down and you either get a fracture or die

probably no more popsicle fridges in backpacks

[serene bough]

date no

[toxic spruce]

the evil update

[lunar tangle]

Polish is finally getting updated

[raven wraith]

TBH if it was a 2025 2024 release date for even open beta I'm sure the indie stone would've already announced it, or that a release date was close. The fact that it hasn't been announced yet in combination with what the blog post said about bear traps suggests to me, we're not seeing it til the new year. (Edit: year)

[sinful geode]

i think that's just the effect of being overweight

I would imply that it's tied in some way to the medical system

but I'm not entirely sure

I also don't believe it's a system per say I think it can also be a debuff applied by others

[soft dawn]

im fine with a 2024 release, i was just curious cause like, orginal release was july or something near that.

[sinful geode]

that "original release" was not stated by the official account

[soft dawn]

oh mbad

misinformation spreads i suppose.

[sinful geode]

very

[raven wraith]

My bad, my brain read 2025, interpreted 2024, and then typed 2025, I just saw that I misrepresented things

[soft dawn]

its cool

[abstract summit]

most likely going to be released in 2025. Not to be a bummer

But i don't see it releasing in december

[raven wraith]

That's what I'm saying

[serene bough]

they alr said if it was 2025 they would’ve said by now…

[abstract summit]

If it was 2024 they would have already announced the release date or mentioned it

it would be releasing this month

they won't do a december release date

[raven wraith]

At the very least they'd be on "we'll have a date soon"

[serene bough]

why not

[abstract summit]

they take time off on december, usually more laid back, atleast from what i heard

[elder sandal]

we said if we knew it was 2025, we would have said so

[abstract summit]

holiday stuff

[serene bough]

if i worded it wrong whoops but that’s how i read what i just said

[elder sandal]

yeah just reads as if it couldn't be 2025

[serene bough]

b41 stable came out december😭

[elder sandal]

Coinkydink?

We're not timing sales or anything

it'll just release when ready

[abstract summit]

stable has less work post launch, unstable they are watching for data and problems more. Im guessing atleas

[serene bough]

tryna say nothing stopped it from releasing december

[raven wraith]

I mean it'd be funny but if it was going to be released to stable in December we'd already have open beta

[serene bough]

huh

[abstract summit]

stable released on december cuz its stable. unstable is like, open testing and more working you kno

faster updates and twinking

i care not if its released in 2024 or 2025, as long as the people who are working are getting better treatment than me at work, i am happy. worker first. (i mean that unironically.)

[raven wraith]

The usual release schedule, and I'm sure nasko would love to correct any lies while they're here, is first there's the closed beta to make sure the game functions. We're seeing that for the first time in this devlog, and there's a mention that none of the closed beta testers have been able to play extended playthroughs with certain mechanics that need it, like crafting and animal husbandry
Then there's open beta, where you can install it on steam yourself, to preview the new version and be able to report more bizarre bugs you encounter that the small closed beta didn't see.
Then, when all the more bizarre but extremely problematic bugs get patched, it gets pushed to stable branch as the full release

[serene bough]

sorry i made you write all that but i knew that, i was talking about what u even wanted to go with it lol

i didn’t say b42 stable will be december

[raven wraith]

Ohh I misunderstood what you said

Iirc b41 stable turned out to have some jank that came to be a problem precisely because they pushed it to stable, made the announcement, and logged off for the Christmas holiday.

But don't quote me on that

[serene bough]

as they should

[versed kestrel]

Nasko could we get friendship bracelets as emotes for discord?

[serene bough]

[raven wraith]

But yeah that incident is one of those things they said they'd avoid in the future, which is why many people here including myself don't think it's a December release

[abstract summit]

Theres also a very small chance the devs are trolling and will just drop it unannounced

in like 2 and half weeks

November 20th maybe or around that time

They said they are working for a couple weeks on it, november 20th might make sense, would be pushing it though.

This follows the logic that even if they knew they were planning a release this month,, they wouldn't tell us on the blog but instead make it its own announcement

[signal sparrow]

might not even need an announcement. Word’s gonna get around quickly

[serene bough]

again i remember b41 saying itll need weeks not months to release beta, just a month before it came out

[abstract summit]

only problem with this idea is that december is knocking

[serene bough]

so theyre not just completely clueless till a day before

[abstract summit]

We're see. I'll be back after my american election. Hopefully my country dosent decend into a civil war by then. Goodnight friends

[finite glacier]

best holiday gift evar!!!

[serene bough]

if december is truly a concrete barrier then the release window is not 2024, its december 1. this means its an even shorter window to know if it will be 2024 or not

so i dont think they still wouldnt know

[lean forge]

that would be crazy if they shadow drop build 42 unstable

[serene bough]

lol till someone realizes they can access it

honestly i wouldnt even tell anyone if i was the only one who noticed

ill just answer every question like its in a thursdoid

[signal sparrow]

same lol

[finite glacier]

[versed kestrel]

I keep myself in the unstable branch just in case

[woeful bolt]

wait whot happened for this to gain attention again

[finite glacier]

lmao

thats where i live too lol

[versed kestrel]

Hehehe

[finite glacier]

the chicken stick branch

[signal sparrow]

bump can we also get emote reactions for messages?

[versed kestrel]

🍗

[finite glacier]

noo people would do dumb ones lol

[serene bough]

wym

i want reactions in general in these discussion posts lol

[signal sparrow]

too bad emote reactions can’t be limited to specific roles

[abstract summit]

I JUST CHECKED IT DROPPED IN STEAM

(joke)

[golden patio]

🔵 cursed with hospital roof start, naked

[versed kestrel]

I think they can, that is why mods/devs can do reacts to messages in here but us lowly peasants cannot

[abstract summit]

me

[signal sparrow]

I just remembered lol I was editing my message facepalm

[versed kestrel]

😄

[signal sparrow]

should be Survivor role and up

[signal sparrow]

there’d probably be a lot of reaction spam like 🤡

[finite glacier]

EXACTLY

i see that crap enough in steamfartums

[signal sparrow]

yeah, I went on the Steam forums earlier and lots of TIGS’ posts have the clown award

[finite glacier]

lol right

[signal sparrow]

nasKo got a boatload of Steam points I bet

[finite glacier]

its annoying lol whoever at valve thought that was a great idea prolly plays cs

[signal sparrow]

I read somewhere that it’s possible to block specific emoji reactions, but then they’d have to get another bot in here to remove those particular unwanted reactions

[vapid zenith]

Where'd you get the new sad icon? Or is it fanmade lol

[finite glacier]

mash posted it on reddit or it was twitter lol

[vapid zenith]

I like the new icons, they're growing on me

[finite glacier]

yah theyre cute lol

[vapid zenith]

The old ones have their charm but I do think that them getting phased out is not a bad thing

[finite glacier]

yah, some of them are really hard to tell what they are

[vapid zenith]

Maybe have an option to chose between the styles if possible tho lol

[signal sparrow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/1b47gyk/to_the_people_who_are_dunking_on_the_new_moodles/

[finite glacier]

like the brainstem

[vapid zenith]

Yes the different colored faces help a lot

[finite glacier]

[vapid zenith]

I wonder if they'll all be faces this time

I wouldn't mind because the overencumbered and damaged ones looks pretty out of place comparatively

[finite glacier]

lol

[vapid zenith]

I only see a snail every time lol

[finite glacier]

lol a snail , thats a new one

[vapid zenith]

I mean you do go slower so it makes sense

But still

[signal sparrow]

here’s the overencumbered moodle, if I’m not mistaken

[vapid zenith]

Ah good catch

I mean it gets the job done (but I think the idea of one of the little heads carrying like a ton of shopping bags would be more fun imo)

[signal sparrow]

windy noodle

I don’t think they’ve showed any more moodles thus far

[finite glacier]

the ff buttons are noice

[vapid zenith]

Oh damn didn't even notice haha

[wet fern]

gonna miss the brain stem

[lean forge]

moodles are looking more interesting

[west galleon]

noticed over encumbered moodle looks different

oh theres already a reply

[versed kestrel]

I have a lot of hours in CS

but I don't work for valve

[finite glacier]

lol i played that from 2001 until a few months ago

[versed kestrel]

cs2 just has too many problems

[finite glacier]

understatement lol , bring back cs bannaner!!!

[versed kestrel]

😂

🎉

[fluid trench]

there is this insane bug that allows you to walk through hordes at 24 fps, i imagine thats getting fixed in v42

[sturdy oak]

Performance increase should hopefully help fix that

[sinful geode]

CS was good when 1.5 rolled out

and 1.6

[blissful rain]

oh that’s really funny

[sinful geode]

TIGS this Christmas with B42 out

[cerulean sundial]

Might just be me but reading other people's feedback (and what a feedback...) completely killed the hype for me.

Now it feels like B42 went from the wow effect to okay-ish tier.

[dull gazelle]

Think about what the modders will do with B42 and your hype will come back

[cerulean sundial]

Waiting 5 years to enjoy "finding water quicker" makes it seem like B42 ain't got a lot to offer quite frankly. And while I know it is most likely untrue, the feedback just made me feel that way.

[cerulean sundial]

I should be hyped about the game I paid for in Early Access a bit more than I should be hyped about the free labor the community is going to offer to increase the game's value though

[dull gazelle]

I mean you still have animals, basements, crafting rework, fishing rework, zombie spawning tweaks

And lots of random stuff that by themselves aren't much, but are still nice to have

[cursive fulcrum]

No update except NPCs is ever going to change the game fundamentally like old updates did eg. vehicles or multiplater

But there's lots of fun stuff still

[true venture]

First-person mode

I wonder if anyone has ever unironically suggested that?

[mint kindle]

indie game store, what is this? these moodles are terrible! cmon… disappointed!

[true venture]

Yeah I think they already gathered the general response

[steel gulch]

Will there be a point in time where the game is presented as “finished” like will there be a point where we stop getting thursdoids and updates

[cerulean sundial]

Yeah I was so hyped about that but seeing almost no one talk about it in the feedback is creating the opposite effect now

[true venture]

The year 3086, when life as we know it ends

I mean eventually it has to, nothing lasts forever

[sinful geode]

because they haven't got there.... I wonder how do you read these posts ? Is it you completely take what's in your favor and utterly missed that part where they explicitly say, not once but twice, that feedback from those feature will land in the following weeks bc they need longer playthroughs?

how can they talk about it if they haven't reached that point ?

[cerulean sundial]

Im giving here my personal feedback which is no way supposed to be representative or absolutely right, it just is the way this latest thursdoid made me feel

[steel gulch]

[cerulean sundial]

Off course what you're saying is true, but the hype in my heart doesn't respond to logical answers

[sinful geode]

Because you didn't understand what you read, this is feedback from early games, no one shared end game feedback there

[true venture]

I'm kidding. The NPC's will be intelligent enough by then to develop the game themselves

[steel gulch]

sweet

[cerulean sundial]

That's entirely possible, english not being my first language would definitely mean reading errors. But I feel like the people writing those thursdoid can benefit from our feedback, even the illiterate's one !

[sinful geode]

don't disappoint yourself , think it as getting closer each day

you are gonna hear about the animals and crafting more likely in the next thursdoid as we near the end of 2024 and more info will come up regarding a possible release and what's to expect

[cerulean sundial]

I may very well go back to fully hyped then

Animals, crafting and the lighting tweaks that will allow us to build from existing structures are the top 3 in my hyping list

[sinful geode]

again don't disappoint yourself, while 2024 is the current target for release, it all comes down to how the build feels the tester's feedback and if they are happy with it so it can be rolled out

[sullen coral]

just wait

[cerulean sundial]

Yeah I don't mind about the release date, I've been playing on and off since 2017 so to me it already feels like the game could be considered as done, but if I'm getting free bonus content why not get hyped about that too lol

[rigid grove]

Lol it looks much better in the picture than in reality. Very realistic

[orchid fulcrum]

Just gimme b42 I'm dying of thirst over here

[rough oxide]

i hope the first mod that comes out is about replacing the new moodles with the old ones

[lunar tangle]

Manifestating water into your location

[rough oxide]

this is literally the only thing i hate about b42 and it's those god dang moodles

i hate how they look so much

[orchid fulcrum]

[lunar tangle]

I don't hate the new moodles icon but it just feels off seeing them in high resolution lmao

[rough oxide]

to be honest i'd rather slurp up an anthill of bullet ants than see those moodles for an entire run's worth

the pixelated ones just fit pz's style way better

[strange flax]

There will definitely be an option to have the old moodles

if not, there will be a mod

No worries on that front

[orchid fulcrum]

[lunar tangle]

b42 new moodles if they were good /j

[orchid fulcrum]

[elder sandal]

They are pretty good. Literally every time we changed something, people complained that it doesn't fit PZ lol

People said the same thing about the change in looks when Build 41 wasn't yet released too

It'll be fine either way

Whoever is nostalgic for the old ones can just use a mod

[lunar tangle]

tbf it's expected reaction, people can't accept changes before getting used to them 3 days in

[elder sandal]

Aye

Every time

https://tenor.com/view/nifty-league-nifty-smashers-frog-sad-unhappy-gif-3399469325658306009

[steel gulch]

is there a way to see all the moodles in 4k yet

[lunar tangle]

just like how ppl react to Minecraft block retextures lel

[frigid sapphire]

I think the moodles images should all be replaced with poems that are very small

You have to get close to the screen to read them in full

[steel gulch]

I used to be confused in the heavy load moodle

Until I figured out it was a tiny man carrying a massive backpack

[frigid sapphire]

Imagine the confusion being enhanced by you having to pause and read to figure out what's happening to your character

Simply better gameplay I think

[lunar tangle]

it is?

[steel gulch]

someone’s needs to make that a mod immediately

[steel gulch]

yes

[lunar tangle]

oh wtf

I thought it was a rotten kidney

[frigid sapphire]

This bag is so heavy... oh god... my fucking kidney... it hurts

I think that's the funniest interpretation I've seen. Beats the brain stem

[steel gulch]

lol a kidney

[lunar tangle]

😭

[marsh wigeon]

I have to say some of the moodles were/still are a mystery, as long as I know what the gameplay effect it I'm ok with not knowing.

Kidney, brain stem or whatever

[steel gulch]

[frigid sapphire]

If everything in the game isn't perfect with reference to my personal standards, including moodles, I'm leaving a bad review. That's just the way the spiffo crumbles

Fortunately I like the new ones though

[finite glacier]

ill be taking this

[sinful geode]

I'm so curious how you've associated rotten kidney with overwheight.
More curious about that spontaneous association than b42 actually

[mint kindle]

new moodle here

[nova tulip]

A good way to counter rural areas being empty would be if over time wild animals began taking over like wolves etc. Like in I am Legend.

[mint kindle]

btw i was joking abt the new moodles, since when they first came out that’s all people could talk abt on the blog posts

[mint kindle]

i wouldn’t see that happening but possible

[nova tulip]

Wolves would also be a good way to introduce non-zombies hostile NPCs

[finite glacier]

vine!

[cursive fulcrum]

Wolves wouldn't be hostile normally, everyone needs to stop playing Ubisoft games

[finite glacier]

1q of 1000 sniffs

[mint kindle]

wolves don’t attack?

i never had much interest in hostile animals

probably cuz pvp in an isometric game is kinda doodoo

[signal sparrow]

invite me to your servers and I’ll be sure to shoot you all on sight when you approach me

[mint kindle]

why is the indie game store twitter dead now

[finite glacier]

[nova tulip]

I mean, they wouldn't be passive either, right? If they attacked your sheep or chickens if you have an innawoods base.

[cursive fulcrum]

Oh sure, that would be fun

[finite glacier]

"wheres francis feathersworth the 4rd number 3240"??

[steel gulch]

Is there a list of all animals coming to B42?

[shut moss]

Check the animal page on the wiki, I think they might have the list of known animals

[steel gulch]

Thank you

[signal sparrow]

this too: https://projectzomboid.com/blog/upcoming-features-b42/

[finite glacier]

and this!

[steel gulch]

Thank you all

[steel gulch]

Very nice list

[mint kindle]

no super mutants?

[finite glacier]

bruh i die from falling and you want super mutants? lol

[sinful geode]

what super mutants you know exist in Kentucky ?

keep in mind that the game is an IRL survival simulation , gotta keep it close to reality

and realism as possible

[finite glacier]

flip flops are the super mutants

[sturdy oak]

Turkeys?! Maybe we can now cook up Christmas dinner

[sinful geode]

in Florida they are Hawaiian shirts

[signal sparrow]

there’ll be foxes too (probably chicken sleeping event). Not sure if we’ll see them roam throughout the world tho

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/07/liquid-zedball/

[sinful geode]

magical mister fox

so like magical helicopter

that is there but is not there

Schrodinger's B42

[signal sparrow]

now that we’ll be able to scale 32 floors, we’ll finally be able to shoot the heli pilot

[finite glacier]

lol

egg and tp the copter

[blissful rain]

i don’t think wolves are in kentucky

i think there’s coyotes though

[restive fable]

They did say some time ago it would drop 2024 before the new year at the latest

I think it might b early 2025 tho tbh

[blissful rain]

there are bears in kentucky scary

[restive fable]

Black bears yea

[blissful rain]

are those the nice ones

[restive fable]

They NORMALLY dont bother people but they're basically the racoon equivalent to bears with how much they dig thru trash and go into "human space"

[blissful rain]

ahh

that’s good then

[raven wraith]

Black bears are easy to spook off as long as it isn't hibernation prep season

[mossy root]

People should come up to bears more during spring

Pet their cubs, they appreciate that

[finite glacier]

[raven wraith]

They don't like the taste of human meat, so unless they're desperately hungry or you're near their cub, putting any amount of resistance up will make them decide to get calories elsewhere

[raven wraith]

Do not. They will not appreciate that

[blissful rain]

the choice between scaring off a bear and potentially alerting a horde

[mossy root]

I have spoken to many bears and they all said they like it

[raven wraith]

That would be a delicious choice to force

Especially with the new heat map meaning not all of the zombies will be immediately visible

[blissful rain]

despite bears presumably not being in next update someone could mod them in

especially since indie stone is documenting their system thins

[sturdy oak]

They will definitely be added via mods

[blissful rain]

id like to add snails

[finite glacier]

lol

i want snails

snail races!!!!

[sinful geode]

I would want to see you spook a black bear

joking, don't ever attempt that

[raven wraith]

I just want to see what people do with the more dedicated code for NPCs that is getting added to support animals, I imagine once the NPC mods we have now finally update to use it, they'll be really cool

[sinful geode]

most NPC mods will feature the AI code from animals

Bandits has it's own AI fyi

[signal sparrow]

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2023/02/play-your-cardz-right/

[sinful geode]

but it's still based of zombies that's why the run to.your car

[sturdy oak]

Honestly I can’t wait to do a wilderness survival run

[restive fable]

Wilderness is gonna go crazy this update. Itll actually be interesting to play 😂😂😂

[sinful geode]

mind that not all crafting tree will make it in first unstable

so no new village crafting options from the start

[blissful rain]

i dont think they're actual npcs though just a new disease

[restive fable]

Lame!

[hushed prairie]

same for me but I also hate the new log cabin texture otherwise b42 is perfect except for those two things

[finite glacier]

[lean forge]

new moodles do look more cartoony

if only we had a positive moodle to sad

[finite glacier]

so happy?!

[lean forge]

happy moodle when you find things that boost the positive moods.

[cursive fulcrum]

You can't eat cakes and forget your family is dead. Advice for PZ and life.

[sullen coral]

no birthday party :(

[lean forge]

perhaps with NPC updates this could spice up the emotions and excellency.

it would be nice to have the option to choose the month of birth.

once a birthday does happen we could expect our character to age.

[sullen coral]

dying from aging is real

[finite glacier]

id turn that off lol , i always do in sims , not my virtual FRIENDS

[sullen coral]

infinite life until first bite

[versed kestrel]

[finite glacier]

i shall die protecting my chicken sticks

[sullen coral]

[sullen coral]

chicken fort

[finite glacier]

[sullen coral]

preparing for making chicken nuggets

i wonder if we can make them in b42

imagine building a mcdonalds and making fast food there

[finite glacier]

lol pink chicken nugget goop

[versed kestrel]

yummy

[sullen coral]

pink spiffo's burger

[signal sparrow]

TIGS, please add this food item to the game. Thank you

[versed kestrel]

cursed

I love it

[finite glacier]

wtf is that lol

[signal sparrow]

one of the most cursed American food items: burgerdog

[topaz nexus]

lol wtf

[barren turret]

I hate living in Brasil dawg

[finite glacier]

when i first moved to tx we had a huge wild pigg problem , puppers tried to fight one through the fence like what are you doing its 10000 pounds lol , the little piglets are so cute though

[barren turret]

Should i fight their mom with one brass knucke and screwdriver ?

[finite glacier]

ok but that ones so cute lol

[versed kestrel]

is that a domesticated drove of pigs or are they wild?

[barren turret]

Wild

Im aint gonna fight them but ill keep yall updated

[versed kestrel]

probably for the best

[signal sparrow]

right click, attach a leash to them, then take them back to your safehouse

[versed kestrel]

🤣

[signal sparrow]

and now you'll have to figure out where to get some chickens, sheep, and cows

[finite glacier]

lmao

go find some truffles n make lots of dollhairs

[signal sparrow]

B42 should let us train pigs to locate truffles so that the pigs don't eat 'em all

[finite glacier]

make npc quest , locate that one truffle , and itll be like .000001 % chance

[signal sparrow]

lol there should also be an event where pigs fight over truffles

[finite glacier]

comon trotters we got truffles to sniff

[signal sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/oats-no-pigs-pig-brother-gif-8274685160072684375

[finite glacier]

lol

[serene bough]

animal farm

[finite glacier]

and then we can have pig races at the kentucky pig derby

[signal sparrow]

a negative "Orwell" gene where the animals are more likely to be violent around our characters

[novel plinth]

Ermmm what if we want to play as a pig and kill zombies

[finite glacier]

lol can we breed them to eat people

like in hannibal

[finite glacier]

im down !

[novel plinth]

Yessss

We’re gonna run people over as pigs

[lean forge]

pet piggies are soo cute

feral pigs in PZ would be interesting to hunt

[finite glacier]

get trotted on

[barren turret]

The enviromental police finaly came

[lean forge]

roosters would be very noisy with its crowing.

[finite glacier]

lol we have roosters near us , the dude has like 25 of them

[vivid crane]

Chemken

😋

[finite glacier]

its really weird hang on

[signal sparrow]

I’m gonna get the bitten pigs to get struck by lightning so they can transform into piglins

[finite glacier]

theres a bunch of barrells in a line and they each just hang out on the barrels

[vivid crane]

Minecraft reference in project zomboid?!

[lean forge]

I hope trapping will get overhauled in build 42

its weird how rabbits and squirrels are nocturnal animals in PZ

[vivid crane]

They have to hide from the zombies somehow

[lean forge]

I remember as a child I caught a wild rabbit with my bare hands

[vivid crane]

😋

I held a baby rabbit

[finite glacier]

did it scream lol

[lean forge]

yes

wild baby rabbit is what I caught

[finite glacier]

ghost the rabbit wrangler lol

[barren turret]

Yall whant the good news or the bad news ?

[signal sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/elmer-fudd-very-quiet-vewy-quiet-hunting-wabbits-gif-21896551

[lean forge]

I let the wild bunny go

[signal sparrow]

both

[lean forge]

good thing rabbits high large litters and reproduce so finding them wont be too much of an issue

https://tenor.com/view/bunnies-rabbits-swarm-gif-4462238

[barren turret]

The good news is that the babies are going back into the wild

The bad news is that the Mother is getting cremated

[novel plinth]

YES

that’s so real

[finite glacier]

yah they have bounties here

for wild pigs

[signal sparrow]

[finite glacier]

i saw them tear up my neighbors yard lol , make it so pz pigs oink up

[signal sparrow]

oink up lol

[lean forge]

spring being a good season for wild life breeding.

[barren turret]

More bad news... The babies are also getting cremated

[leaden rapids]

Aww so many bacon seeds 😄

[lean forge]

hunting wild pigs for some pork and bacon

[finite glacier]

lol bacon seeds

[signal sparrow]

naming your pigs Chris P. Bacon and with generational suffixes when breeding them

[finite glacier]

lmao

[lean forge]

I am legend credits

[signal sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMA3x-bc8iM

[finite glacier]

lol

[toxic spruce]

the evil update

but its closer tho right

[lean forge]

if we could have pet squirrles in PZ I want one named Peanut

[novel plinth]

I’ll be the New York government

[toxic spruce]

why did they kill that thing

was it old or something

[novel plinth]

It wasn’t registered or something I got no clue

[toxic spruce]

he didnt pay his taxes

he had to go

[lean forge]

RIP Fred the Racoon as well

[signal sparrow]

in relation to rabies testing from what I read. They claimed the squirrel bit someone

[lean forge]

police raided that man house like it a drug case just to look for that raccoon and squirrel

[novel plinth]

Raids are all executed the same generally

[gritty niche]

Testing for rabies requires the animal to be put down

Still though, kind of shitty to confiscate a squirrel just cause

Also, I'm surprised this story blew up - people having wild animals for pets isn't new lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofp26_oc4CA

Don't tell the NY animal control about this

Also every single racoon in this video is obese lol

[signal sparrow]

PZ Horde Night mod but raccoons

[gritty niche]

They don't even have to change the noises

[sinful geode]

wait for stable I guess

[restive fable]

What else can u do

[sinful geode]

play the unstable

[signal sparrow]

these fellas are chonky lol this is exactly what I'm hoping players can do in B42

[restive fable]

Still gonna play, ill just wait for the full thing before i really grt into it

Can u play the unstable rn? I been under a rock

[sinful geode]

don't know if The Forest map will make in the first unstable

[gritty niche]

He gives them three different types of food en masse, I'm not a raccoon expert but this can't be healthy lol

[sinful geode]

no

[restive fable]

Never knew PZ team were age of empires fans, the way theyre making a forest nothing lol

[restive fable]

😦

[sinful geode]

you start from nothing and work your way up to metal crafting after a long time, that's the principle

[novel plinth]

It really does suck that it happened

[signal sparrow]

they have a bit of trouble climbing up like that one raccoon at 8:40 mark so they must be overweight to some degree so this def cannot be good lol but yeah I'm no raccoon expert either. I think just the sausages would've been fine

[versed kestrel]

when I was a kid my parents used to feed racoons (very very rural area)

got to the point where they would bring like 3 generations of kids with them

all for that tasty tasty cat food

[lean forge]

hunting raccon for meat and making those hats.

[signal sparrow]

lmao they made a music video about it: https://twitter.com/danielcupps/status/1333053590357807110?s=21

Dan Cupps (@DanielCupps) on X

Here's a song and music video I made out of the Wall 2 Wall Racoons vid #mobbedbyracoons #wall2wallracoons #racoons

Twitter · Nov 29, 2020, 2:21 PM

[signal sparrow]

lol raccoons taking advantage of one's hospitality to the next level

at least you'll have some wonderful friends in the forest waiting for you when the apocalypse rolls around

man. This has me really worried now. If I don't close my windows or leave my doors locked in-game, then all the raccoons are gonna devour my SunBallz cereal and other foods I spent months growing or risking my life to loot

[lean forge]

pet spiffo

[versed kestrel]

[finite glacier]

get desunballzd

[drifting turret]

We've come a long way since the pre alpha tech demo and it's been a long ride but we'll worth it. You guys deliver time after time! I look forward to the update as always! Thanks for the thousands and thousands of hours of fun and to thousands and thousands more!

[versed kestrel]

❤️

I feel the same way, been such a wild ride and I am so glad I hopped on it early

when I bought the little tech demo I just brought it for what it was, had no idea how far it would come 🙂

[finite glacier]

me neither lol, i found it from neo scavenger

glad i found it and the community :3

[versed kestrel]

and I found neo scavenger because of zomboid (one of their blog posts talked about it back when it was a mondoid)

[finite glacier]

lol thats great

[versed kestrel]

😄

[finite glacier]

blinkies!!

[versed kestrel]

hahaha

[finite glacier]

also the tiniest cracker ever lol

[signal sparrow]

adding Neo Scavenger to my Steam wishlist. Looks like a neat game

[finite glacier]

its fun im really bad at it lol but its so fun

[hexed light]

B42 WILL be this month

[sinful geode]

well, let's dance to it

!dance

[paper mica]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/986951681822580736/1013627138454327296/breakdance.gif

[frigid sapphire]

Great, now it's guaranteed to not be this month

[versed kestrel]

+1 month

[frigid sapphire]

I thought we established that your superpower is being wrong about estimates. You need to guess that it WON'T release on a given day

[sinful geode]

+2

[frigid sapphire]

Does a guarantee against it count as an estimate 🤔

[sinful geode]

much more than that

[frigid sapphire]

Once b42 is all wrapped up we need to create a formal standard for how much time is added in response to common phrases

[build] when = 1 extra week, for example

[sinful geode]

build when = mute 24 h

[finite glacier]

lol

[frigid sapphire]

(These are not all actually “b42 when” but I found this funny)

[finite glacier]

do mp when

[frigid sapphire]

Oh god

[finite glacier]

hurry!!

[versed kestrel]

a few less, but still +months added

[rough oxide]

B44 when?

[signal sparrow]

• B43 when? or NPCs when? or any mention of Kate and Baldspot = +1 month
• mpwhen? = +2 weeks
• B42 stable when? = +2 weeks
• when is the next unstable patch? = +1 week
• what happened to archery? = +2 weeks
• how do I access the unstable branch? = +1 day
• when are you going back to smaller and faster updates? = +1 month
• when will you release the game or consider it 1.0? = banned
• so you just added what mods already added? or anything along those lines = banned
• this game has been in early access too long = banned

any feedback?

[sinful geode]

nah

those weeks affect us as well

mute / ban / payment request

[signal sparrow]

actually +1 month for asking about archery is a little harsh, could make it +2 weeks instead and a month for B43 questions

[sinful geode]

when it will reach 1.0 = banned

[versed kestrel]

tbh a lot less than I expected lol

[sinful geode]

it's gonna get horrible in December

I'm going to count how many people are gonna show up

asking about release

[versed kestrel]

sounds exhausting

[finite glacier]

they get sent to waveryly asylum

[sinful geode]

I know but discord is always open bc I work from home

[finite glacier]

i alraedy forget the name whats it called

[signal sparrow]

TIGS is gonna have to expand that place then

[finite glacier]

thats where all the banned people go from here and steam lol

[blissful rain]

waverly hills!

[finite glacier]

thanks lol

[blissful rain]

in louisville

[signal sparrow]

you appeal your ban by mining or working at Sauerkraut Den

[blissful rain]

a reason to go to louisville!! scary sanatorium

with the death tunnel oowoooohoh

[finite glacier]

lol

[lean forge]

turning the waverly sanitorium into a base

[finite glacier]

just fill it up with animals

[signal sparrow]

the banned users zombies down there

[finite glacier]

lol

[versed kestrel]

posted the launch time for my server to friends

now I have a deadline and that scares me

[signal sparrow]

take back the deadline and do an “estimated for 2024” announcement instead

[versed kestrel]

🤣

[signal sparrow]

friends: “when’s the server ready?”
you: “Soon™”

[versed kestrel]

pretty much

I did make sure to say "plan to launch"

[signal sparrow]

that works too lol

[versed kestrel]

just need to finalize the modlist and then I am basically good to go though

there is just... a lot of mods to look through

[signal sparrow]

[drifting turret]

https://tenor.com/view/straight-to-jail-crime-criminal-gif-16779501

[sinful geode]

:)))

[finite glacier]

lmao

[toxic spruce]

WHEN

[signal sparrow]

…are we closing down this channel? Yes! Good question! What do the people want? 7K message count?

[finite glacier]

10k

[lean forge]

can we have these sunglasses in build 42

[finite glacier]

lol

[signal sparrow]

Deal with It Thug Life glasses too so we can equip them when our friends get bitten

[quaint drift]

Surely there's a mod for this

[dull gazelle]

You can make a mod with them in like ten minutes

[sullen coral]

what if pz lore will become an arg in future

[pearl radish]

when is it drawwping 😩😥

[lunar fractal]

Guys, don't worry, as Finnish Super Chad's have already given us a solution. All you need to eliminate the Zomboids is a vehicle that has a siren and some molotovs.

[hearty frigate]

Guys Nasko just messaged me (we’re super close best friends forever and ever) and said B42 is coming out soon (between 0-2 years)

[paper cobalt]

Lie is a sin

[sinful geode]

what lore ?

[sullen coral]

idk

[sinful geode]

?

you were talking about lore and I asked what lore ?

[sullen coral]

project zomboid lore

[sinful geode]

a the official lore

that's coming way later

[sullen coral]

somewhere in 2030

[sinful geode]

don't see any point talking about it

maybe, maybe quicker than that, we will see

[sinful geode]

horrible

[lunar fractal]

The current lore is cool but it is far from a realistic depiction of a Zombie Virus.

[sinful geode]

as always everything is up for debate but seeing how

it's nowhere close to us, I don't see the point

it will need filtering, polish work and all that

[cursive fulcrum]

Zombie viruses don't exist and are inherently unrealistic

[night pagoda]

Zombie viruses are real in form of tiktok and twitter addictions , as well as whatever skibbidi shit that has been conjured up by vile necromancy

[cursive fulcrum]

No

[night pagoda]

Bruh, I read as "massaged"

Kinda made me jealous

[steel gulch]

Project Skibidioid

[night pagoda]

Great argument!

[frigid sapphire]

The current lore is cool but it's far from a realistic depiction of dragons

I think a charitable interpretation of the message my above message is joking about would be the handling of the virus outbreak wasn't realistic. I don't have an opinion on that, but I at least think a valid argument could be made for it

[hybrid sparrow]

can anyone point me toward a way of posing characters like in the "go binkies" image?

[shut moss]

What's that image ?

[hybrid sparrow]

steam won't let me copy it

but here's a screenshot @shut moss

[surreal wren]

Me going to get the worlds last hotdog, fighting through hordes of zombies:

[pine idol]

Looking foward to see how things have changed when build 42 does release. I may have owned Project Zomboid since 2014 but I only really started to play it this year as I got a group of friends to play multiplayer with it. (I am entirely happy to try out the singleplayer to see how much has changed when it releases so my friends can watch me die constantly for a while 😆 )

[frigid sapphire]

Same, looking forward to no-lifeing singleplayer so I can help my friends survive again when MP is out

[sullen coral]

project dying

[hybrid sparrow]

That's actually something we learned in university. "the medium is the massage" - a typo that went into the school books

[finite glacier]

Go blinkies!

[hybrid sparrow]

There are viruses like toxoplasmosis or rabies that manifest in their host becoming reckless, as well as parasites that can manipulate their host into alternate, often overly aggressive or simply lethargic behaviors. But there's no "back from being dead" thing - that's true. At best there's a fungus still driving your limbs around like a decapitated lizard

But that's way easier with organisms the size and complexity of ants. Our bodies tend to leak fluids too quickly as well

[shut moss]

That's a Blender rendering

[hybrid sparrow]

So I guess that's a no? 😦

Hah, talk about timing

Is there a ready way to import a character dressed like that into blender?

[finite glacier]

Can try #modeling

Tink theres pinned stuff at the top

[hybrid sparrow]

Ooh, thanks, that was hidden in my sidebar

[finite glacier]

Yah lol happens

[hybrid sparrow]

First time I see this happen in discord haha

Maybe I've missed out sooo much on other servers 😳

[finite glacier]

Its happened to me i had to hit show all channels, didnt even know about that feature lol

[cursive fulcrum]

I think it's all done in Blender

[fluid trench]

holy pee, i can spend another 400 hours of my life in v42 :D

[golden patio]

🔵 on windows:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\media\models_X\Skinned
then choose which body model you'd like, you'll need an external plugin to import the DirectX format but its a starting point

[vapid zenith]

Blender my beloved

[hybrid sparrow]

ok I'm getting to the point where it works but I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing. guess I'm gonna make some donuts in blender first

thanks for the help!

[golden patio]

🔵 oh yeah blender has a bit of a learning curve for sure 😅
glad you got the imports working, of course and best of luck! :D

[finite glacier]

good luckers !

[fluid trench]

bad luck = good luck
good luck = bad luck

[burnt bronze]

What lore? 😅 the only confirmed facts about the "virus" is that it cause "panic and confusion". We dont even have confirmation that its a medical condition and not magic since no in game literature or any part of the knox event stuf specifies this afaik. TIS want their zombies as ambiguous as possible it seems. Which is good for players deciding on their own zombie lore, but only if the sandbox settings cover every possibility

[fluid trench]

hit corporation Spiffo's make the burger have insane virus

that's what i believe

[burnt bronze]

Idk man. Im hedging my bets on witch doctors and shamans at this point

[lunar tangle]

The only lore I see are radio and TV's broadcasts

I don't mind the virus' origins, things that unfolds after the first day is what I'm interested in

[cedar gyro]

it's all just a really bad dream

hallucinations

[signal sparrow]

I firmly believe that cows got mad and hoped the humans would get a disease so the universe magically answered with Knox

[lunar tangle]

so true..

[sinful geode]

Mad cow disease aka Creutzfeld-Jakob mimics zombie behavior in terms of symptoms.

[finite glacier]

now add wastings disease

[sinful geode]

and it's infectious spreading throughout biological products like blood

can't be cured

[lunar tangle]

bummer that no one mentions virus from the meteorites

[sinful geode]

must take into account that the game delves into realism as much as possible so viruses from space will not make it in.

[burnt bronze]

The only relevance the origin has is wether we are talking about fantasy zombies or sci-fi zombies. Either way, even magic generally adheres to rules in fiction. Its just wether you can be bothered setting those rules or not

[sinful geode]

it's important, it sets the stage for the rest of the backstory and roleplay

[burnt bronze]

Not to mention how important player expectations of how zeds function is

We have to rely on our own head canon for this, because the game doesnt have its own lol. But when game systems then dont line up with your head canon, this problem arises.

[sinful geode]

If it's unbelievable or unrealistic then the rest of the lore around it will be tainted with this feeling

and it goes in contradiction with the rest of the game's overall impression of realism and immersion.

so it must be plausible to some extent

[marsh wigeon]

It is a voodoo curse caused my aliens going back to 90's kentucky and using the Lost numbers to win the lottery

[finite glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/curse-of-monkey-island-journal-guybrush-threepwood-boat-gif-12929774

[sinful geode]

try to picture Cordyceps from TLOU, while the chances for that to happen IRL are very very small close to 0, the possibility for that chance to trigger such an event, exists, and the physiology behind the infection is real it's observed on ants.

[burnt bronze]

Aint me that needs convincing brother 😅 im all for things making logical sense based on human expectations of reality

[sinful geode]

I know I was just stated that to add to more lore