#Zaumby Thursday - Project Zomboid

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slim mason
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The thing is it doesn't make sense for horses to be pushed away, idk

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Like... They already have animal ai and animations, the whole crafting update that's supposed to replace looting. Having all of that but not a replacement for cars feels wrong

tribal harbor
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What do they provide from a crafting perspective? Recall that this was the intended “heart” of this update

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Animal husbandry goes well with crafting. Horses go well with farm animals, but not necessarily crafting

slim mason
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I feel that an alternative way to move around the map is way more important than alternative ways of getting clothes (which is going to be included on the update)

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It's way more possible for servers to run out of fuel or cars than clothes, tools, food and other stuff that the crafting update is currently focused on

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Also we already saw that some gas stations might generate with no gas so alternative ways of moving are even more important lol

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And horses are cool as hell and have become kind of an icon in zombie media thanks to The Last Of Us and The Walking Dead. A zombie game focused on open world survival without horses feels wrong

chilly vigil
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!roadmap

hearty gardenBOT
tribal harbor
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From a realistic perspective people wouldn't have many reasons to travel from town to town in that situation anyhow imo. From a player perspective that's certainly not ideal

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I think the configuration will be there to prevent gas from being an issue for servers that don't want it to be an issue. For the future horses definitely feel like a must, but idt they're a must for b42

smoky lance
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Tbh, I think horses are coming eventually.
You can easily make horses a renewable resource mechanically, and they can easily be made just as mechanically difficult to maintain as any given car

cobalt bay
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they've expressed interest in horses many times, it just needs to be done right, which is a big ask

tidal python
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for now let's them focus on the 42

smoky lance
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I don't think our discussion of horses here is going to somehow stop them from developing

spark zephyr
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I doubt for B42, I feel like horses are a behavioral AI tree animal so B43 and beyond imo

dry lodge
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I'm sure horses require extra stuff like riding

spark zephyr
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Naturally

cobalt bay
smoky lance
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It's definitely not a day one feature but I'm willing to bet modders have it in before too long

slim mason
dry lodge
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So why don't we have animations for rats then

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I want to ride rats

smoky lance
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Finally, a use for stuart little

tribal harbor
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I'm unsure we can count an image from tweet as evidence for "working on" (present tense) them

dry lodge
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No they tweeted it

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It must be official

tribal harbor
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Until I see it in a blog it does not exist (animal poop is not real)

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I think it's entirely possible that's something they were experimenting with & not meant as a teaser for b42, to be clearer with what I mean above. May not be something actively being worked on, but something planned

tribal harbor
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Fred analyzing every TIS tweet in the past year to determine the frequency of the letters H, O, R, S, and E

slim mason
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I actually did that with Lemmy's reddit account... Only one mention of horses

tribal harbor
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That one mention: "We will not be adding horses in b42."

slim mason
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And it was years ago

tribal harbor
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This makes my totally-real guess even more feasible

slim mason
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No, but it was a "wow it would be cool to see servers full of people riding horses decades into the apocalypse" or something like that

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Nothing confirmed

tribal harbor
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Someday 🙏🏾

slim mason
solid pond
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^players during 4/20 in-game

woven warren
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baseball bats and crowbars are superior for early game and late game.

solid pond
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bare hands >> every other weapon

woven warren
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stomping is always the best option for saving weapon durability but bashing a zombie fallen to the ground is always good for fence hoard killing.

solid pond
woven warren
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thing I don't like about bladed weapons is damaging nice clothing

solid pond
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that's true. If I see the TIS logo or Spiffo or RJ's face on a shirt, I resort to stomping zombies with my military boot instead

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I'm unwilling to damage those Kentucky treasures

woven warren
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finding some t shirts with graphics on them are a keeper and some clothing that has my favorite color

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I use blunt weapons for certain clothing items

solid pond
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wonder what new leather jackets or varieties we'll see in the next build. Wild Racoons > Iron Rodent and Barrel Dogs

spark zephyr
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Watch out wild spiffo

solid pond
silent plinth
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tomorrow is thursdoid

solid pond
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any predictions? I’m gonna guess Project Map update, visual improvements for hordes knocking down fences, and something about smoking or brewing

livid bison
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I NEED IT

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I NEED IT SO BAD

wise bone
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Horses fuckin' suck. I want to build my own fucking car and have to run in order to make it work like a survival-horror Flintstones

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Genuinely excited when 42 comes out and I can do my neolithic playthrough.

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Technology is what brought the zombie scourge to my woods, and anything with so much as a hint of polyester is going to suffer from a horrific case of "ugga dugga" by my own hand.

dry lodge
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I want to see more of the crafting tree that's not related to smithing

grave void
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Hey, would the game benefit from a randomized TV schedule every time you started a game, and you'd have to either figure it out yourself or find a TV guide to find out what useful shows will be shown at what times?

slim mason
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Just remove life and living as a whole

dry lodge
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I just start no electricity and water

grave void
slim mason
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It's just too good to miss. I'd like to spend the first days watching the news and radio, but who can't say no to free xp? It's silly how invested my character is on his cooking TV show lol

grave void
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You think Pat Bren is also writing more TV shows for the game? Like a "How It's Made" documentary style show to increase small amounts of skills in stuff like welding?

Science fiction shows that might grant some crafting recipes?

What other kinds of shows could they add that aren't documentary style?

slim mason
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Imagine being pat and writing so many Tv shows and radio and then seeing the entire player base ignoring them to watch life and living lol

vague latch
narrow raven
silent plinth
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can u confirm or deny us getting animated tv channels now that we have that software that lets yall put videos ingame

marble wagon
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He won't

blissful bone
marble wagon
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I don't understand but I will pretend I do:

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lol

solid pond
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probably saying that modders (“someone”) will create animated TV channels

honest ore
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can we get roadsign armor like in Rust

fathom ember
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I think multiple channels should offer skill shows, as well as things like the news channel revealing locations on your map. For example, an ad for a dealership can put it on your map

dry lodge
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Or just don't use it 🤷‍♂️

fathom ember
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No, it’s not that I think it’s too powerful. Just that it’s not nuanced

tidal python
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hey guys i was speaking with a guy about mods ,specifically, about the switch for power and he told me there is only for the entire map, but he told also, with the 42 there will be zoning so u can switch on/off in different areas of the map, is that true? i don't remember any blog mentioning it, can u help me?

shy mauve
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uh

spark zephyr
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I am sure with enough knowledge you could probably use the ZonesAPI mod to make zoned areas with electricity. I don't recall them ever talking about zoned electricity in the dev blogs though.

solid pond
slim mason
solid pond
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interesting how those two blog posts are almost exactly five years apart

tidal python
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ok thank u lads

sick wharf
spark zephyr
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Just gotta have a TV for every station so you can consume it all drunk

woven warren
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watching life and living on multiple tv's at the same time to increase XP be like

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tomorrow we get that juicy thursdoid

solid pond
woven warren
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maybe we could start seeing gun play , combat , crafting , new animals, and more in the next thursdoid

solid pond
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and the ingredients of Spiffo’s Secret Sauce

woven warren
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more food items for PZ and recipes

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making juice out of wild berries

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I hope we can make some soy milk if soy beans are added.

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Almond milk if almonds are added to PZ

slim mason
woven warren
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lol

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making carrot juice be like

solid pond
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that is, if we’ll be able to make juice. Not sure if it mentioned somewhere or I misunderstood

slim mason
little totem
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man crazy that b42 is coming may 18th

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felt so quick

rancid grotto
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may 18th 2025? man, how time flies

woven warren
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lol

turbid terrace
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Taking so much time to launch this next build that my hype came and went like 4 times lol, i'm not even hyped anymore, sounds like fairy tale by this point and they said after b41 they wouldn't take that much time anymore. Bet tomorrow we will have another month to wait and speculate about what they've showed us, such cool community engagement, super fun indeed

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I'm builder level now omg, finally not plunger anymore yay

solid pond
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I hope Puppers stuffs you in a jar with Spiffo like they said

slim mason
tribal harbor
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It seems like some people started the counter on the first b41 unstable release

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When they said no build will take as long as b41 I'd assume it means the whole process from development to stable. Despite the concurrent development the roadmap shows, the most charitable way to interpret that imo is the interval between “final stable release of previous build” and “final stable release of build”

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(Which would be 4 years, for b40 → b41)

noble atlas
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Some people also count b42 time from b41 release and forget it received updates for a year

tribal harbor
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True, probably a part of the confusion there too

slim mason
tribal harbor
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It's my God-given American right to be angry at anything I want

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I'm angry at you, even, right now. Fuming. Can you tell

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I think with a lot of EA games being dissatisfied by pacing is understandable because they tend to have grand promises, but idt that really applies to PZ. Certainly not advertised as more than it is currently

slim mason
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I still want my horse

tribal harbor
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I should probably clarify that both that message & the one I sent earlier are in agreement with the things you said since I just realized they may read as if I'm disagreeing

woven warren
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at least build 42 will be out this year

tribal harbor
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Also sorry horses are not lore accurate because Kentucky banned horses in 1991

tribal harbor
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Oh I didn't mean the angry bit, just that both of my messages following yours might've looked like argumentative responses to yours (despite expressing similar sentiments). But maybe that was not a correct assumption

slim mason
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We are 100% seeing horses tomorrow guys. Trust me

solid pond
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Omar is typing out his utter rage

solid pond
slim mason
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We riot

tribal harbor
slim mason
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I'll break the rules and send a meme in general chat

tribal harbor
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What if there's a horse mention but only via subliminal messaging

slim mason
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Just for you, I'll go full conspiracy theorist tomorrow to find any resemblance of a horse in the thursdoid

main meteor
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We are 100% seeing tomorrow guys. Trust me

solid pond
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if not, we’ll blindly riot

woven warren
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children are banned from kentucky in the PZ lore

tribal harbor
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Immediately before the outbreak there was a rapture but just for children

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No one thought it was noteworthy enough to mention it

turbid terrace
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No matter what happens now i can die happy knowing i leveled up to builder, now i can be at peace knowing i'm not plunger anymore

turbid terrace
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with it doesn't happens... well.. what can i do? Still be pissed about it but can't do anything lol

graceful bison
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I'm from the future, tomorrows thursdoid won't be coming because It was shot dead in west point

woven warren
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Lol

turbid terrace
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But is it contained? I mean it can't go that far

graceful bison
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also because indie stone headquarters destroyed by nuclear missile

turbid terrace
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violence spreads faster than zomboid virus

marble wagon
slim mason
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Will you ever give us a release date or will it randomly drop without warning? I find the second option better

marble wagon
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I don't think we ever gave a release date in any blog

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We might be saying it's close or whatever but it'll just drop whenever it's ready

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We have no reason to hold back something that we think is ready for public consumption

slim mason
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No clue. I'm from the B41 wave of players so I've never seen the release of a new beta build 🤷

fathom ember
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lemme tell ya, it was the hypset shit

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if i remember right, both IWBUMS and stable release lacked a traditional release date

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but it's been long enough that i might be way off

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it certainly felt sudden

woven warren
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before build 41 came out some content creators got access to it.

pastel rain
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Just checking

rocky hatch
woven warren
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imagine being on vacation and build 42 is released and having to wait until you come home

slim mason
fathom ember
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in my experience the unstable release was actually pretty stable

woven warren
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llol

cobalt bay
cobalt bay
little totem
solid pond
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maybe you'll be on the front lines helping contain the Knox Infection

radiant hollow
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It's the day!!!

lone shale
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The blog is bimonthly now, the last one mentioned it.

wise bone
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I want a bicentennial thursoid.

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If these blogs are happening too fast, I get scared and retreat into my protective shell.

wise bone
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IT'S JUST LIKE ME FR

maiden niche
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!roadmap

hearty gardenBOT
green bison
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Source?

shy mauve
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Or in the last thursdoid forum I don't remember exactly

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Horses are not released with b42 and if they come, they'll probably be mid-late b42

steady wind
dense furnace
vague latch
lone shale
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Yeah, what he said

unreal wagon
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You guys are brutal

dry lodge
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Zomboi

rich flower
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they should add cars and zombies and guns

grave void
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Let's bet on the hour that the Thursdoid drops. I'm betting 1-2 PM EDT.

dry lodge
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I bet it doesn't come out

vague latch
grave void
dry lodge
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I bet you one bored ape

woven warren
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cant wait for this months blog post

green bison
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today, right?

frank cobalt
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Frankly I can't imagine anything topping that grass reveal. It's gotta be crazy.

cobalt bay
cobalt bay
green bison
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So, horses are in the plans but for the future?

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I thought they were never going to add them ngl.

cobalt bay
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the would "like to" but have no current plan to add them

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at least not publicly

green bison
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Wonder how they will tackle the long distance travel with such a huge map in the many years later scenario

vague latch
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From what I recall, no current plans for procedurally generated towns

cobalt bay
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I believe many years later is its own map all together but who knows

green bison
cobalt bay
green bison
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walking between those two points takes like.. 30 min IIRC

green bison
vague latch
green bison
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Also so that players no longer will encunter the black void 😛

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But I was hoping they also added the physical barrier to contain the Knox Event, giving the map an actually good border.

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as I think that in the lore, they actually put some kind of barrier?

vague latch
cobalt bay
vague latch
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One of the recent thursdoids

cobalt bay
woven warren
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if lawn mowers were a thing to cut grass and help make the land look much better.

tribal harbor
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They should add some sort of undead creature

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Idk like a zombie or something, I think it'd be cool

tribal harbor
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They should reconsider I think, mods are good but zombies should be in the base game

little totem
woven warren
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having zombies with armor take more damage before killing them

tribal harbor
cobalt bay
dry lodge
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That'd be neat

woven warren
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zombies wearing hardhats, helmets could take less damage to blunt weapons