general_chat

[ruby river]

I also wanna get my nephew interested in space

my two passions are dinosaurs and space and i think he would love 1 of those

[marsh glacier]

im surrounded by the old and wise

[sterile iris]

i'm sure he'd like a telescope ^_^

[sterile iris]

now you're stretching it lol

[marsh glacier]

doesn't age come with wisdom

[ruby river]

he's also like 3 years old lol

[ivory heart]

Bro how old I'd everybody in this chat lol am I the only person here that doesn't have kids and a 9-5 😂

[frosty tulip]

I got the train autism, I didn't get the dinosaur autism tho

[sterile iris]

i learned recently that schizophrenia isn't what they always portray it as in movies/shows

[marsh glacier]

19 lol

[ivory heart]

I'm 17

[frosty tulip]

Most people in the chat are probably teenagers. I'm 22

[sterile iris]

i have an 8-4:30 :D

weekends off too baby!

https://tenor.com/view/dodo-ark-twerk-dodotwerk-dododance-gif-10056055

[ruby river]

im 22 im just the youngest child

[ivory heart]

Aha fair enough. You finessed the system 😂

[frosty tulip]

Yeah nah, I'm pretty sure statistically speaking, schizophrenics aren't that violent. Just some media shit

[sterile iris]

and on top of that i love my job. rare

[ruby river]

i have 9 nieces and nephews.

[ivory heart]

What do you do?

[sterile iris]

exactly. it's a bit more than just "lol i'm crazy split personality"

[frosty tulip]

Most of my relatives with schizophrenia are just depressing, one of em became homeless for years, lived under a bridge, now he just lives in a care home probably for the rest of his life

[sterile iris]

I'm a clinical engineer :D

[ivory heart]

Nice

[sterile iris]

thanks! i repair and service medical equipment ^_^

i recommend it! it's honestly pretty easy and fun

MOE

AKA GOOSE FRIEND

i see u lurking!

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[ruby river]

i wanna join the air force

[frosty tulip]

I'm just an annoying safety guy on construction sites

[ivory heart]

I'm going to make you all feel old now by saying that on waiting for universities responding to my applications. I already got accepted by one to do law but still waiting for the rest

[sterile iris]

"you better put on that hard hat foo. unless you wanna have a hammer fall on your melon"

[past ingot]

You're definitely annoying....

[sterile iris]

i don't feel old at all. i think that's awesome man :D

[frosty tulip]

Damn right

[narrow rune]

I just throw cans, bottles and glass into boxes

[past ingot]

You aren't the Osha guy are you?

[sterile iris]

on cue bro

[sterile iris]

MOE Goosefriend!

[sterile iris]

thge firemarshal, now he can be a jerk

[narrow rune]

#creativity

[frosty tulip]

Nah, I'm just with the company that owns these sites

[frosty tulip]

Hey, shit like that happens. Had some bloke ages ago that was welding, no safeties on. Asked him wtf and he said he can see better without em

Lmao not for long

[ruby river]

come with me
and youll be
in a world of OSHA violations

[sterile iris]

i love it

[narrow rune]

okay I'll be back next week

[frosty tulip]

Damn right, you should see some of the wild shit people try and get away with

[sterile iris]

so literally your job is "hey i covered my butt and if they don't listen he's going to cost the company a lot of money and going to make MORE rules for yall"

[sterile iris]

it was good to see you fwend

[frosty tulip]

Downside is that I also receive reports of some of the fucked safety incidents across the country

[sterile iris]

oh man

[frosty tulip]

Yup

[sterile iris]

so literally the rules that are implemented because of people doing stupid stuff like that

[past ingot]

You would not believe the deadly terrifying things I don't even remember doing.

[frosty tulip]

Yeah that's why any workplace safety rule exists, even if it seems stupid, typically these rules come because someone was injured or killed cause of it

[ruby river]

erm you need to have a railing around this vat of molten steel 🤓

[frosty tulip]

Like how we got sensors on the boom-lifts, because some guy literally got crushed by going too far into the ceiling

[neon bramble]

lmao how many of those guys complain about arc eye

[frosty tulip]

A few times, thankfully only once we've had some guy had to go to a doctor because a spark went into their eyes

[neon bramble]

I genuinely don't understand people who suffer for their dumbfuckery but keep doing said stupidity

when I make a dumbfuck mistake I file it under things to never ever do again

[frosty tulip]

It's basically just because you do it so much you think there's no way you can fuck it up, until ya do

[sterile iris]

buddy of mine works in a shop and is the master carpenter. a coworker of his was riding the forks on their forklife while there were like 3-4 heavy doors and the doors collapsed on him

he got bent backwards and broke his back

[frosty tulip]

And that's bad on a construction site considering how dangerous it is

[past ingot]

You don't understand what dumbfuckery actually is.... you've merely experienced it I have been overcome with it.

[frosty tulip]

Pretty sure I've mentioned this a few times but there was a report a few years back I got, some dude was crushed by an 800kg power transformer I think

[sterile iris]

holy crap!

[past ingot]

Oof....

[frosty tulip]

I dunno what exactly happened to him. Hopefully died because I really doubt there's a way you can survive that without being extremely disabled

[sterile iris]

Good Lord

[neon bramble]

bills too

[frosty tulip]

Yeah it's been so long, I forgot exactly what happened

Wasn't on a site I was on, just a report from a different state

[past ingot]

It's usually cheaper to die and be cremated than go to the hospital

[neon bramble]

if I end up extremely disabled the last person I want to find me is my mom for fear of her extending my extremely disabled life

[past ingot]

I made my mom agree to be quick pulling the plug.

[neon bramble]

my mom will never agree to that

made a pact with my brother instead

[past ingot]

Some people are not capable of doing such a thing

[frosty tulip]

Of the sites I've been to so far, all the union reps are super chill with me

[sterile iris]

had that with my pops. literally a couple years before he was dealing with cancer he had a uhh i can't remember what it's called but mrs dodo helped him with it. like the "end terms" for his life. he didn't want any like vents or life support systems on him if and when it came to it

and it did

[neon bramble]

I haven't had a chance to work in a unionized construction site yet

[sterile iris]

dude chilled for 2 days before letting cancer kill itself lol

[frosty tulip]

Seriously? Damn

[neon bramble]

must be nice to work in a place that's properly equipped lmao

[frosty tulip]

Ye one of the union reps on my current side is this old dude that was literally a soldier in the soviet union, wild

[sterile iris]

whoa that's pretty cool

[neon bramble]

yeh I'm trying out the blue collar life overseas cause it's just not fucking worth it in the homeland

[frosty tulip]

Yeah he's pretty chill

[golden glade]

My name is Edgard George Zomboss, I've come here to eat your brains, with respect Dr. Zomboss.

[sterile iris]

why do i feel like i've read that before

[frosty tulip]

Oh yeah bird what job do you work on construction sites? I think ya told me but I forgot

[neon bramble]

I was supposed to be the foreman's assistant but they made me safety officer

[frosty tulip]

Lmao oh shit right, ye here's to being annoying safety guys

[neon bramble]

lmao yeah

[rain mango]

https://tenor.com/view/project-zomboid-carpentry-lv-0-project-zomboid-carpentry-lv-0-project-zomboid-carpentry-gif-10928555988991086967

[icy vigil]

I wonder how i can toast marshmallows without a blowtorch

Maybe the oven

But only the top part being hot

[quiet agate]

a stove, a gas pipe and flint

[rain mango]

turn on your gas stove

let it run for a few hours

THEN light a match

and toast your marshy mellows that way

[quiet agate]

let it run for like 4 in game days

just to be sure, hell even replace the propane tank once

[fossil crow]

Someone knows around when b42 multiplayer will release?

[plush cobalt]

No

There's no ETA

[past ingot]

It's probably going to be a long time.

[teal gull]

at least 3 and a half

[fossil crow]

Thank you

[cosmic jay]

Plantinos v zombinos

[narrow crypt]

guys one question, can animals drink tainted water? just want to make sure i dont kill them lmao

[dire timber]

they have always drank tainted water irl soooo :3

[ruby river]

🦕

[fathom igloo]

Hey you’re back, is the epoxy you were talking about the same as pipelining?

[past ingot]

That is an option. Idk how much that costs though. Big question what is the pipe made of?

[fathom igloo]

PVC I believe since a newer clean out was installed right before we moved in. Still waiting on Roto to call back to schedule but the tree is gone now thankfully so hopefully the roots will die

[dawn spade]

Bruh

You went out of your way to not include the right option

[fathom igloo]

Anyone else’s tenor keyboard pop off when searching for a gif and you have to switch back to it? How do I make it stop doing that

[dawn spade]

U dont

U just cry

[fathom igloo]

It’s so annoying

[dawn spade]

Tenor fucking sucks

[past ingot]

Cut it out with a hacksaw or Sawzall measure the inside diameter. Replace it. Should be schedule 40 6". Buy two couplings the same size it's a fitting that looks like a slightly larger pipe. Plastic is stupid easy. Like any mouth breathing knuckle dragger who can fingerpaint can do it

[dawn spade]

Every letter it just kills your keyboard, then half the time, towards the end of your search it just deletes everything you tooth and clawed to get into the search bar

[fathom igloo]

Oh that’s a lot of work and I’d have to rent tools plus call the city to make sure I’m not hitting anything important

[fathom igloo]

This 😭

[dawn spade]

U dont even need couplings, the great thing about plastic is you can weld it with just like, a lighter

[past ingot]

PVC is enamel core.... you let me know how well Bic welds that together while you breathe in polyvinylchlorate

[fathom igloo]

If I’m estimating correctly the part where the roots would be is exactly 40 ft down the line from the house so almost at its deepest point

[past ingot]

Oof

[fathom igloo]

All of this knowledge I have gained against my will. I would like to go back to my former delulu self who didn’t know any of this existed 😂😭

[dawn spade]

Just hire someone

[fathom igloo]

Problems? What problems? What’s a sewer line

[dawn spade]

That always works

Or ignore it

That occasionally works

[fathom igloo]

Estimated cost for a whole replacement line is $20k

[past ingot]

Welcome to the long arduous path of being a homeowner.

I'll go down there and do it for less

[fathom igloo]

I did until it didn’t. Renting a snake every 6 months adds up

[dawn spade]

Idk what the issue is

[past ingot]

No joke. I'll do it for like 8k

[fathom igloo]

Rotorooter is a 24hr company with locations all over the USA and yet it’s been days and still no call back

[dawn spade]

But usually when something costs 20k its a bigger issue than, idk raghhh ill just learn how to do it on discord then go womanhandle some pipes

[past ingot]

Commiefornia

[fathom igloo]

Roots growing into the sewer line that have to be snaked out every 3-6 months

[neat moat]

are we still talking about the tree

[dawn spade]

O

[fathom igloo]

The tree is now gone. They were able to do it today

[neat moat]

oh cool

any hiccups?

[past ingot]

The roots

[fathom igloo]

Not that I know of lol

[lilac quarry]

The tree will return.

[neat moat]

I mean, did the contractors not do the job properly

or be a pain

[fathom igloo]

I ordered RootX to throw down the line so hopefully that’s the end of this saga or that roto says the pipeline fix is like $100

[fathom igloo]

You’re evil

[neat moat]

That's good

[past ingot]

Tress so do that

[dawn spade]

The trees in the chipper rn calling up its homies

[fathom igloo]

Nah they were very pleasant

[neat moat]

They're right though. It is an endless battle

[fathom igloo]

Real

[fathom igloo]

Wut

[neat moat]

Something something, the trees in that one short story I mentioned

[past ingot]

Trees like returning

Depends on the type but you don't know so

[fathom igloo]

How do I stop this

[neat moat]

You can't

Not really anyways

[past ingot]

Call the contractor if it comes back.

[fathom igloo]

Small tree that is the only one like it on the street so not invasive

[dawn spade]

Just pour oil on the ground around your house

[past ingot]

It won't come back... unless it's a willow

[dawn spade]

Lots of oil

[neat moat]

It depends on a lot of factors. Squires for example can plant trees accidentally

[lilac quarry]

The tree will succeed you and all of your accomplishments.

[fathom igloo]

Ah yes who needs grass especially in fire season

[dawn spade]

Exactly

[fathom igloo]

Definitely not a Willow

[dawn spade]

Grass is shit. U just have tp mow it all the time

[silent copper]

The goats I hid in your attic

[neat moat]

or don't. Kill it off and plant natural flora

[past ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/fern-adventure-time-gif-19508937

[dawn spade]

Thats worse

[fathom igloo]

This is not an issue. I’m very happy with this. Goats are cute and funny

[neat moat]

How so?

[dawn spade]

I prefer to plant concrete

[past ingot]

And smell. Goats are smelly

[neat moat]

Oh

[silent copper]

Most animals are

[past ingot]

What do you know of crete?

Not like goats....

[fathom igloo]

My front yard would be a nice target parking lot

[dawn spade]

That it doesnt have to get mowed every 2 weeks

[fathom igloo]

Small but nice

[silent copper]

Damn…this would be a perfect place for a Walmart

[past ingot]

Let that shit crack and get some bird shit on it. All done.

[silent copper]

Get a bunch of chickens on your lawn

[dawn spade]

Just put more concrete in the cracks

Simple

[fathom igloo]

We have bobcats

[past ingot]

I had a mountain lion this year

[fathom igloo]

Bobcat frens

[silent copper]

Oh right forgot about coyotes badgers bobcats and foxes

[past ingot]

Mountain lion devil

[silent copper]

And the creature

[neat moat]

Depends on the concreet. Pored concreet is very high maintenance ironically

[silent copper]

They are so cute but I know damn well they’d kill me if I’d try and pet them

[neat moat]

Chat lag

[silent copper]

I may be a dumbass but by all means I’m not stupid

[neat moat]

whats the difference between a dumbass and a stupid

[silent copper]

Well ones dumb and the others stupid

Big difference

[neat moat]

A distinction without difference

[past ingot]

My yard.

[neat moat]

odd looking fellow

[silent copper]

My yard

[past ingot]

Amazing

Alright bed time

[silent copper]

Gn

[fathom igloo]

Walmart yacht club

[silent copper]

Yknow what would spice it up….a Walmart boat

[neat moat]

I up your Walmart boat for a cosco car

[past ingot]

Cambrie dead ass serious I might go down there to replace your sewer pipe.

20k is a ripoff

[neat moat]

Yeah

Are there no other offers?

[silent copper]

20k FOR A SEWER PIPE!?

WTF

[fathom igloo]

That was just an online estimate, I’m still waiting on a callback from Rotorooter

[past ingot]

Call a local plumber

[fathom igloo]

Allegedly that’s the whole thing

House to streets

[fathom igloo]

They’re definitely next. I didn’t want to accidentally schedule them back to back…. Could be awkward

[silent copper]

20k is absolutely ridiculous

[past ingot]

Mini excavator should be a few hundred bucks a day, a shovel free, 40' of pvc 300$ glue and primer 20$ 50$ for fittings

[fathom igloo]

That’s like 60 ft of line and the labor to dig all the way down + permits

[past ingot]

Idk why you would need permits for repair

[silent copper]

Shovel, glue, pvc pipe and a prayer

[past ingot]

Commiefornia

[neat moat]

What state do you hail from cardholder?

[fathom igloo]

All the utilities and such I’m assuming. Power lines or whatever

[past ingot]

For 20k I'll do it with a prison spork and pine resin.

[neat moat]

Did you also mention it was part of the county?

or some was

[fathom igloo]

Huh

Idk what needs done yet waiting on them to come out and send a camera down it. For all I know it could be less than like $100 to fix

After we clear the roots with a snake it seems to drain fine so I don’t think it’s collapsed anywhere

[neat moat]

I mean anything to avoid that 20k payment, that's a lot regardless

[fathom igloo]

And this time around with roots was far less thick roots than 6 months ago

[fathom igloo]

Yeah that’s allegedly for an entire line replacement. Idk if we need that but I have anxiety and always jump to worst case scenario when in limbo

[neat moat]

I get that, I'd personally not try to think tok much about the cost since not much is known about the actual damages, and you've only spoken to 1 company thus far

[fathom igloo]

I would like to never have to think about this again 😂

[neat moat]

real

[past ingot]

You own a house, you'll miss this problem one day

[fathom igloo]

Hopefully I’ll be a multimillionaire then and this will be pocket change

[toxic relic]

cambrie panic time

what did i wake up to

[fathom igloo]

No panic yet

Tree is gone, skylight is not leaking, just waiting on plumbing company to tell me my fate

[toxic relic]

and im eating mango

we're all winning here

[ruby river]

its on fire!

[neat moat]

again?

[fathom igloo]

How does one do the epoxy method at 40ft down without digging?

[stone nexus]

Balls.

[ruby river]

hi bestie!!!

[fathom igloo]

Yes, LA

[stone nexus]

helo pookie

[neat moat]

just saw rn

news to me

unfortunate

[toxic relic]

its only going to get worse

:]

leon and i are doomer pilled

but im mangocel rn

[neat moat]

leon is texas problem now

"the commiefornians, they're not sending they're best no they're not"

[toxic relic]

is that a reference

[neat moat]

yeah

[toxic relic]

to?

also

[karmic jetty]

new font who dis

wtf

[toxic relic]

permits doesnt mean communism...i would say its a sign of bureaucracy which is decidedly not communist

[karmic jetty]

I'm having a rough time recovering stuff

[toxic relic]

recovering wat

[karmic jetty]

AW HELL NAH AU5OCORRECT

I hate this keybkad

[dawn spade]

Au50correct

[karmic jetty]

how do I change

[dawn spade]

Change what

[karmic jetty]

phonebkeybkard

[dawn spade]

Idk

Google it

[fathom igloo]

I think it’s like $50 so not a big deal especially in comparison to overall cost of jobs

[dawn spade]

Erm, doubt

The signature might be 50 bucks

The conveyancing to get it, more than that

[karmic jetty]

pain

[ruby river]

whats california

[dawn spade]

A state of mind

[toxic relic]

what is california

where is it?

[ruby river]

hell

[fathom igloo]

Idk. We paid $50 to get a permit to build our shed

[ruby river]

im so glad im leaving this place in 2 months

[fathom igloo]

Ofc that was pre pandemic pricing

[dawn spade]

Like, one of those self standing ones?

A shed also doesnt interact with government infrastructure.

Expect to be sad

[fathom igloo]

Like a wood one from Costco

[dawn spade]

Ye

[fathom igloo]

Shed itself was expensive af

[dawn spade]

But like, no posts or anything way into the ground

[fathom igloo]

But it’s nice and can be a greenhouse of if I ever want it to be

[toxic relic]

ahh

california

[silent copper]

Unpain

[toxic relic]

its the north pacific gyre

[fathom igloo]

It’s cemented into the ground and has power

[dawn spade]

Oh, true

[toxic relic]

i only understand places in relation to currents

[fathom igloo]

Blue vs red means cold vs hot? Or something else?

[dawn spade]

Good vs evil

[toxic relic]

yes

its cold and hot

[karmic jetty]

test

i did iy

i got my old keboyard

[toxic relic]

real

[heavy ivy]

yeah temperature's effect on water and air flow is cool as fuck

[fathom igloo]

Interesting that California is cold and the other side is hot

[toxic relic]

fr

[dawn spade]

Red is the convanent

[ruby river]

why is wood so freaking expensive

[karmic jetty]

who knew setting up new fon is this annoying

[toxic relic]

its gyre so its a current

[fathom igloo]

Real

[karmic jetty]

now why is keyboard so smol

[toxic relic]

also you bought a shed from costco

a shed?

[ruby river]

yes they sell sheds at stores

[fathom igloo]

Yes hang on I’ll show you it’s nice

[ruby river]

Wood costs way too much. I should become a lumberjack. I'd make so much money.

[toxic relic]

i am not aware of this

ive never seen a full fucking shed at a store

[heavy ivy]

going back to the solar locked earth thing im trying to remember but i did find a source somewhere talking about what might happen to the air and water currents but it was something like a perpetual big circle of wind, hot air rising and heading away from the sun and cold air falling and moving towards iirc?

[ruby river]

are you anerican

[toxic relic]

no

[heavy ivy]

costco has sold entire buildings in store and its quite funny

[toxic relic]

thats definitely not quality

[ruby river]

you mean if the earth was tidally locked, how would the wind be?

[heavy ivy]

yej

[toxic relic]

i have no idea; id need to research this but im tired boy

[ruby river]

if the earth was tidally locked then wind would flow from the bright side to the dark side and equalize somewhere around the horizon, the permanent twilight zone

[heavy ivy]

don't stress it, it's not super important but was still an interesting idea

[toxic relic]

real

[toxic relic]

you wouldnt, there has been a wood shortage actually

hence the prices

[ruby river]

If earth was tidally locked then point zero would be their own south pole and it would be several tens of thousands of kilometers of snow to get there

the dark side of the earth would probably be a rite of passage and have significant cultural impact

[lost saffron]

hi

[toxic relic]

the lumber shortage started in 2023

afaik

[heavy ivy]

my stepfather is a contractor and i had no idea you could have 6 months to get a fucking door delivered to you

[ruby river]

why

[heavy ivy]

so yeah ive noticed the wood shortage hehe

[ruby river]

why dont they just like grow more trees

[toxic relic]

if i piss on it itll probably sway under the force

[ruby river]

ah yes who wouldve thought that shutting down everything for 2 years would have lasting impacts on the economy

[heavy ivy]

it was a general collapse of the entire supply chain, the lumber is and was there, but like nobody was processing it, or delivering it, and the demand is still sky high from the eternal us housing crisis

[toxic relic]

that

[fathom igloo]

Nah, we had it properly installed with cemented flooring and power

[toxic relic]

alright

i still doubt

it has to pass the piss test

[ruby river]

so if theres so much demand then why dont they just make more

probably because transportation is so expensive

[fathom igloo]

It’s survived two years of California weather

[heavy ivy]

no jobs for it, people want to work, but nobody is hiring

[ruby river]

gas is so freaking expensive now

[toxic relic]

its moreso that the distribution is fucked eternally

[toxic relic]

but not my piss test

[ruby river]

actually it was $3.95 per gallon of gas today :3

[toxic relic]

no car no gas issues

[ruby river]

why dont they just fix it

[toxic relic]

cause you can make money off of this

reason why it hasnt been lowered

[heavy ivy]

suffering is an effective source of revenue unfortunately

[fathom igloo]

Sir you should see a doctor for that

[ruby river]

how do i make money off of this???

[toxic relic]

not you

the 5 people that own every company in the world can

[ruby river]

how do i start my own business to sell wood to people at a reasonable price

[toxic relic]

you will suffer at their expense

[toxic relic]

https://tenor.com/view/笑-gif-5118823473936113945

[toxic relic]

mr farter needs no doctor

[ruby river]

why dont we like

use anti trust laws to force them to break up

[toxic relic]

cause they have money to pay off laws

[ruby river]

better call luigi

[toxic relic]

why are companies legally allowed to sue native Brazilians for resisting oil dumps in the rainforests

[ruby river]

i love living in a corporate oligarchy

[toxic relic]

i know its a meme but fuck i want it to be more

[heavy ivy]

i unno, i imagine you'd want to bid for land to cut, get a local ecologist to advise on healthy tree cutting, pay for equipment to cut, lift and haul the wood, get city and state permits, build a factory to process the wood into proper lumber, employees for all that, and a place where you can sell it
it's possible, just for a large scale you need a decent amount of equipment

[toxic relic]

i got food

but im still tired

my time has come

[stone nexus]

Balls, how'd my xp be?

[toxic relic]

https://tenor.com/view/time-has-come-master-oogway-kung-fu-panda-gif-11501567

[toxic relic]

balls.

[ruby river]

i wanna live on mars

[stone nexus]

Huh.

[hardy mural]

You are rank #217 at level 22 with 22,796 experience. (1,504 left for the next level)
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[toxic relic]

no you dont

[ruby river]

I would die to live in space

[toxic relic]

you know its crazy thats theres so much scientific research to be done on the moon but all the fucking commercial tests theyre sending to it is going to blast the surface clean of anything cool

[ruby river]

I will be the first man on mars and ill die there

[toxic relic]

its so hard to do any science

its one of the lowest priorities for nasa

[heavy ivy]

unironically the theoretical science behind terraforming a planet is dope and would be awesome to work on, provided you can hire somebody to keep the dumbass bigwigs who fund the thing out of the lab

[toxic relic]

im not sure

[ruby river]

isnt nasa gonna set up a permanent base on the moon

[toxic relic]

haha sure

[heavy ivy]

it would make the ISS look like a minor investment

[toxic relic]

investment

my astrophysicist colleagues are not optimistic

nor am i

[heavy ivy]

fuck money though, let's just build a city on the moon for shits and giggles

[toxic relic]

no

dont

[heavy ivy]

or fix up our planet

[toxic relic]

yes

that

[ruby river]

terraforming is really really hard but hypothetically we COULD terraform mars if we invented hydrogen fusion and restarted mars' core in order to create a magnetic field, then imported water and co2 to create an atmosphere. We don't have the technology yet, but we COULD hypothetically have the technology within 100 years

[toxic relic]

[heavy ivy]

but first i wanna convince more people that nuclear is a lot safer than they think it is so we can mitigate our coal addiction

[ruby river]

i have the perfect image for this

too bad i cant post images

[toxic relic]

this will be an inter disciplinary abolition

coal

[ruby river]

nuclear is the future

[heavy ivy]

posted on ben's behalf

[toxic relic]

future deez nuts

[ruby river]

nuclear is the only viable and sustainable option for electricity

[toxic relic]

i wouldnt say the only but yes its gud shit

[ruby river]

hydrogen fusion would solve all of our energy problems

[toxic relic]

this is cool

[heavy ivy]

solar and wind is really nice for low impact small solutions like individual houses and remote locations, same with geothermal if your thing is located in one, nuclear can power the continent

[toxic relic]

im stealing it

[heavy ivy]

good

[toxic relic]

[heavy ivy]

spread information on the internet 🫡

[ruby river]

if we were to start a fusion reactor deep in Mars' surface it would cause a chain reaction that could refire the core and create a magnetic field

[toxic relic]

cease this

lets focus on earth

[ruby river]

humans need to be a multiplanetary species

its our best chance of survival

[toxic relic]

now we disagree

[heavy ivy]

eventually yeah, but we also have a really nice starter planet here

[ruby river]

we should make a city on mars and a city on Titan

[toxic relic]

no

[ruby river]

Titan will be habitable when the sun goes red giant, it will be just as warm and nice as earth for approximately 100 million years before the red giant phase is over

[heavy ivy]

I'm curious if like, instead of space mining, we just.. keep digging. outside of that hole experiement done by the soviets we have barely barely scratched the earth's surface

[ruby river]

by current estimates, the earth will be too hot to inhabit in 1 billion years.

[fathom igloo]

Ghost of mars shows why we should absolutely not do this

[toxic relic]

astropolotik

this is not good

1960s

[fathom igloo]

Ben is Elon

[toxic relic]

this is what im saying

[ruby river]

i hope im not as cringe as him

i just like space

[toxic relic]

eh

[fathom igloo]

Ok Elon

[toxic relic]

im gonna be petty and say thats not a love of space

if you "love space" youd understand why this is not viable

or cool

[fathom igloo]

Elon send me $789 million USD

[ruby river]

only if you shill for me on X

[heavy ivy]

like what if we go deep rock galactic and dig 10km down into the earth for delicious resources, provided they exist down there idfk im not a geologist

[ruby river]

you dont think terraforming mars is cool?

[fathom igloo]

You get one time and one time only and it has to be under an alt not ever linked to me

[toxic relic]

verily not

its diametrically opposed to being cool

[ruby river]

hmm... nah ill just get a tesla bot to do it!

[ruby river]

nuh uh

[fathom igloo]

Definitely Elon

[ruby river]

and then after we terraform mars and set up a base on titan we could terraform venus too

[toxic relic]

you are incorrect but i dont have 5 hours to explain this

[stiff geyser]

Chat rate the drip (you have no idea how uncomfortable my character is) 🗣️

[toxic relic]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-modern-warfare2-stare-meme-2022-gif-27104713

[ruby river]

venus could hypothetically be turned into a habitable world

[toxic relic]

stop

next youll be doing peace keeping missions

well done belgium

[fathom igloo]

Yeah let me just set up shop on Neptune

[ruby river]

actually, scientists believe that venus USED to be a habitable planet before it got superheated.

so did Mars before its core shut down.

[toxic relic]

Astropolitik : classical geopolitics in the Space Age
Dolman, Everett C., 1958-

[fathom igloo]

My Venus is in Aries

[toxic relic]

[ruby river]

we can't stay on earth forever

[toxic relic]

this chat is breaking my psyche

[heavy ivy]

What if we dug a deep hole

[toxic relic]

they say we

[heavy ivy]

Just to dig a hole, no reason

[toxic relic]

no

riv/bee

[heavy ivy]

aww :c

[toxic relic]

please

[fathom igloo]

Ok battlestar galactica

[toxic relic]

i will not entertain humour about this subject

I TAKE CONTROL

[ruby river]

the earth is gonna be too hot to live on in 1 billion years, then the sun is gonna swallow it entirely in about 4 billion years, and if that doesn't happen then the core is gonna shut down sometime after that

[toxic relic]

1 billion haha

ben

[heavy ivy]

oh about the astropolitics? apologies, i don't like it either

[fathom igloo]

Do you honestly believe humans will be around then?

[toxic relic]

humanity is not on that shit ben

[ruby river]

i hope so!

[toxic relic]

HAHHAHA

wild

humans are probably out in the next 50 years

thats being generous

[fathom igloo]

So you live under a rock then, Patrick star?

[toxic relic]

real

[heavy ivy]

on the bright side: live action mad max movie, starring everyone

:3

[toxic relic]

hell yeah

it wont be like that

but

[ruby river]

I'm gonna do everything I can to try to make sure humanity makes it that long ❤️

[toxic relic]

this is

[ruby river]

humans are like 500,000 years old

[fathom igloo]

This chat is dangerously close to banned topics so I digress

[toxic relic]

yeah

i cant actually argue my points without auto mod

[ruby river]

sorry

:(

[toxic relic]

this is how misinformation spread

we cannot mitigate this so its just taken as true

[ruby river]

but humans ARE 500,000 years old!

[toxic relic]

hum on deez nuts

[fathom igloo]

But some of the evil wasn’t around then

[toxic relic]

and?

dinosaurs were older

[ruby river]

trust me, humans did very very very bad stuff back then. they just didn't have the means to do it on a planetary scale like we do now.

[toxic relic]

yet they died

[fathom igloo]

Back then they stoned bad people and good people to death. Now we well you know, I digress.

[toxic relic]

i would say this is a false equivalence even

[ruby river]

they died because of climate change

[fathom igloo]

Not even comparable. Back then nuclear wars didn’t exist

[ruby river]

or zomboids!

[toxic relic]

exactly

you prove my point

[fathom igloo]

Imagine dinosaur scientists

[neat moat]

hello chat

[toxic relic]

dodos and their ancestors [included since your statement includes this] are over 20 million years old

yet they went extinct

quite fast imo

[neat moat]

whats the subject

[toxic relic]

dinosaur scientists

[fathom igloo]

End times

[ruby river]

"the asteroid is a LIE! wake up sheeple! there is no asteroid!"

[toxic relic]

actually

[fathom igloo]

So you’ve seen the movie

[toxic relic]

i read a furry novel with dinosaur scientists

[ruby river]

what movie

[toxic relic]

it was good

[neat moat]

Im glad you liked it

[toxic relic]

they included some interesting points about "what if dinosaur was ___"

it was cool

[ruby river]

my nephew likes dinosaurs, im gonna buy him a dinosaur encyclopedia when he's old enough to appreciate it.

[toxic relic]

any age

[neat moat]

I was about to say

[toxic relic]

i remember reading so many dino books as a boy

[neat moat]

unless they're like 2 ig

[toxic relic]

yeah get to em when they can read

[ruby river]

he just turned 3

[toxic relic]

or you can get them picture books

[ruby river]

i dont think he can read yet 😭

[toxic relic]

what age do you learn to read

[neat moat]

does anyone really know

cus I don't

[ruby river]

he's a smart boy so probably soon. I love my nephew

[fathom igloo]

It changes

[toxic relic]

ah

[ruby river]

I'm so proud of him

[toxic relic]

i cant remember when i started to read

a young lad

[fathom igloo]

I learned when I was like 5, kids now are learning at 2

[ruby river]

how don't you remember? you were there!

[toxic relic]

id think its different depending on many factors

[strange spruce]

[toxic relic]

im an old man, things fade

[ruby river]

I used to get my b and d mixed up

[neat moat]

who didn't

[ruby river]

and i used to forget which way the L went

[strange spruce]

your what and what

[toxic relic]

their bed and door

[strange spruce]

Oh

[fathom igloo]

School changes, I remember algebra didn’t start until high school for my generation now it’s taught starting in like 4th

[ruby river]

the letter b and the letter d

[neon bramble]

my earliest memory is learning english

[toxic relic]

what

you didnt learn algebra?

until hs

[neat moat]

Americans

[neon bramble]

same in the philippines though we were offered supplementary algebra about 2 years before highschool

[ruby river]

my earliest memory is when my mom said to me "you know, next year you'll be going to school just like your brother" when i was 3 years old

[toxic relic]

i never went to kindergarten

[strange spruce]

same

[toxic relic]

i just started first grade

a mischievous fella

[fathom igloo]

Yeah it was taught as AP math in 7th grade

[ruby river]

i was 4 when i started kindergarten

[neon bramble]

highschool was weird for me

[strange spruce]

honestly same i was a class clown for a bit

[toxic relic]

ap?

[fathom igloo]

Advanced placement

[neon bramble]

from the same subjects every year to suddenly every subject changed each year

[toxic relic]

i always caused trouble but i think that was a way to get attention that i thought was good instead of negative attention

for feelings i had that i knew were stigmatised

psych_chat

[strange spruce]

later down the line i just spent my time in back of the classrooms just drawing

[neon bramble]

I was a transfer student halfway into the year in first grade

which made me a target for the bully who openly declared open season on me

[toxic relic]

what is this

[neon bramble]

he uh did not expect me to throw chairs right back at him

it was a fun time for me weirdly enough

[toxic relic]

throwing chairs 🗣️

[strange spruce]

+parry

[neon bramble]

because nobody knew what to do with kids literally warring in the classroom

[toxic relic]

that was fucking hilarious

i think i was a bully

[fathom igloo]

If you excel past the standard curriculum and test out of it you get put in gifted classes that are usually hs or college classes

[strange spruce]

i did get bullied a wee bit

[toxic relic]

mr farter had demons

i apologise on behalf of all passed bullies

for i too was one

[toxic relic]

noted

[strange spruce]

i was (and still KINDA am) a fucking crybaby

[neon bramble]

usually I am cool with the bullies that use force

[heavy ivy]

they range from actually teaches you something to trauma inducing bullshit

[fathom igloo]

Prove it, cry right now

[neon bramble]

because that means I'm allowed to use force right back

[toxic relic]

i used to start fights cause i was in emotional turmoil

not an excuse

but i had no healthy way of dealing with it

[strange spruce]

yes ma'am

[neon bramble]

I think I developed my aggressive tendencies from that

[heavy ivy]

the classes, that is

mb for not clarifying lmao

[toxic relic]

oh real

[fathom igloo]

Kidding plz don’t

Happiness all around

[neat moat]

Are we going around the circle sharing our childhood traumas?

[strange spruce]

all good lol,but yeah uhhhhhhhh

[neon bramble]

have you had to deal with bullies for your kids yet cambrie

[strange spruce]

it really is psych_chat hours

[toxic relic]

real

lets deconstruct that

[neon bramble]

gotta say my mom telling I'm not at fault for flatly refusing to apologize to the bullies that attacked me first

[fathom igloo]

Second born bullies the oldest but that’s it so far (she ofc gets in trouble for this)

[neon bramble]

I stepped out of line by doubling down and threatening the bully in front of their parents but I was very pissed off

[toxic relic]

how many kids do you have cambrie

[fathom igloo]

Something about second borns mannnnnnn no fear no limit bossy soldiers

[fathom igloo]

2

[neon bramble]

sometimes I wonder if I would have been the bully if I wasnt targeted and learn to wait for justified self-defense lmao

[toxic relic]

will the second one have to leave and plunder villages since they get no inheritance

kievan rus' style

[neat moat]

no one gets inheritance in this economy

[fathom igloo]

Nah I hope to leave an abundance for both of them and anymore we may have

[toxic relic]

real

i got a record player when my mom died

my inheritance

[neat moat]

that is a W

[toxic relic]

i used it for parts 6 years ago

[neon bramble]

imagine being in a family of 7 having to split inheritance

[toxic relic]

it was not a good record player

[neat moat]

bruh

lol

[toxic relic]

[fathom igloo]

My parents will likely try to hit me up for filial support with filial laws

[neat moat]

Well at least it served you

[toxic relic]

indeed

[neat moat]

what are those laws?

like financial aid stuff?

[toxic relic]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filial_responsibility_laws

[ruby river]

do you guys play kerbal space program

[neon bramble]

I never got past jool

[neat moat]

eesh

[fathom igloo]

Mostly defunct and unenforceable laws stating I have to pay for their nursing home

[strange spruce]

what do today

[toxic relic]

eat and sleep

[neon bramble]

ragequit at docking for some reason

[strange spruce]

i already did the first one

[toxic relic]

sleep

[neat moat]

I hope this wasn't the case for you but imagine having bad parents and then they pull this crap on you

[strange spruce]

no i just woke up like 3 hours ago

[fathom igloo]

Something about most boomer parents making having kids their retirement plan

[toxic relic]

sleep more bro

[strange spruce]

nah i was in bed since like 8 pm its fucking 9 am rn !!

[fathom igloo]

Yeah luckily estrangement and different states is a good enough defense

[toxic relic]

go for a walk

and look at plants

[strange spruce]

actually wait i got an idea

[toxic relic]

record the soil

[neon bramble]

this is expected from me but the social responsibility goes both ways

[strange spruce]

reread goodnight punpun

[toxic relic]

i dont think my dad expects filial care

i know he doesnt haha

[neon bramble]

I think most dads are just too allergic to ask for it

[toxic relic]

nah he's very emotionally open

[neon bramble]

my old man is an alright guy just very confused about the fathering business

[toxic relic]

he told me he'd rather go out with a bang when he starts getting tired than sit with his son all day

[toxic relic]

real

its weird when a parent dies

[graceful dust]

my mom said i should shoot her before we get to that point. but she knows thats not how we do in this family

[toxic relic]

im not sure if ill deal better since i dealt with it as a young boy

[graceful dust]

a lot of things i look fwd to in getting older... not that one tho

[neon bramble]

how does end of life care even work for you people

[toxic relic]

wdym

if you mean americans
im not american

[neon bramble]

cause when your aging relatives are about to die in the philippines it kind of becomes a community thing

[toxic relic]

im not sure what my dad will do but tbh we're not really family

[neon bramble]

everyone stats coming home to visit and the general expectation is you will die surrounded by family

the funeral is half-party if you are well off

[fathom igloo]

Yte Americans usually don’t have community, I’ve even heard of their churches abandoning them

[graceful dust]

end of life care is usually left to the immediate family or a facility i think. ive had friends who had to do that alone as teenagers

[neat moat]

hyper individualism fwt

[toxic relic]

i do the party but the dying surrounded by family depends on how good you are to your family haha

[safe fjord]

With a music band, unlimited foods and sometimes card games.

[neon bramble]

yeh unlimited food is mandatory

coffee too for the vigils

[neat moat]

Hello only

[toxic relic]

one of the few times you get to eat your older relatives banger food

funeral

[safe fjord]

Hi 😊😊😊

[neon bramble]

used to help run a grocery store and funeral is frankly good business

[safe fjord]

Lots of snacks, and watermelon seeds. 🤣 My aunt’s lip started turning white from eating too much of it. Lols

[graceful dust]

depends on a lot of things i think... like a few of my family members deffo wouldve had more going on if not for their circumstances

[neat moat]

I hope when I die I die feeling content

[safe fjord]

True, I hope the same way…

[karmic jetty]

im so not used to mobile discord not being laggy

[neon bramble]

'course that means dying is expensive though in a different way

[safe fjord]

And I hope it’s less painful.

[graceful dust]

i hope i make it to 40 & dont get murdered ✌️

[fathom igloo]

Omar that means no

[safe fjord]

It is expensive

[toxic relic]

a milestone

genuinely

its cause for celebration

[neon bramble]

diogenes has the right idea man

[graceful dust]

my 20s have been so good i only almost died twice

[neon bramble]

just let my body return to nature or soemething

[toxic relic]

real

[fathom igloo]

Was it Omar?

[livid notch]

It's Friday yet again

[safe fjord]

Imagine feeding 50-100 people a day? Breakfast, lunch, dinner and unlimited snacks and drinks.

Plus the 45 days post funeral event and the 1 year event… 💸💸💸

[toxic relic]

friday night

[neon bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/super-sentai-ninja-sentai-kakuranger-today-is-friday-in-california-gif-25093546

[graceful dust]

omar hasnt caught me yet

[toxic relic]

i have to sort out citations

[safe fjord]

Hi light!

[neon bramble]

to be fair that's usually for people well known enough to have hundreds of people come visit

[neat moat]

Hopefully

[neon bramble]

ex-local gov officials are basically expected to have the full week-long affair

[toxic relic]

i remember spending hours at karaoke in like a dragon

[livid notch]

Heya

[graceful dust]

where r y'all dying where ppl arent bringing any food to share

[neat moat]

yeah discord mobile is pretty laggy unfortunately

[neon bramble]

if they died impoverished though it's usually on the current mayor or something to help cover the cost & dignify their funeral

[toxic relic]

in a field

i think when its my time i will simply walk into the ocean and never return

[graceful dust]

classy

[toxic relic]

let the bone worms deal with the corpse

[graceful dust]

becoming dirt is pretty sick

[toxic relic]

exactly

https://tenor.com/view/dirt-man-dirt-gif-10659880156349352058

me fr

[graceful dust]

u fr

[neon bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/im-dead-gif-20431926

[neat moat]

Sounds morbid but I wish my body would just be left in nature somewhere for the scavengers and foliage

[toxic relic]

thats not morbid

sounds cool

[graceful dust]

ya

[neat moat]

It's the least I could do

[neon bramble]

most people when they hear how much a coffin costs lmao

[neat moat]

I mean that too, but along with the toxins that seep into the earth from embalming

[neon bramble]

fuckin cyberpunk edgerunners when they tell david he cant afford a coffin and just push him out the door

[graceful dust]

u gotta set urself up to not be embalmed

[neon bramble]

or am I remembering it wrong

[dawn spade]

I wanna go back in time and give cavemen nuclear fission

I think it would be funny

[neat moat]

I dont remember that part

[graceful dust]

a lot of things abt death i dont rly think of cos who has time for that but its important to update ur will every so often

gotta get that done sometime

[neon bramble]

I remember him being told he's broke after his mom died

and he has her ashes in his house the whole time

[neat moat]

Unfortunately that would probably not work as they would lack the means to use, mauntian, and feed the plant. Along with the fact they have zero need for power generation on that scale especially

[neat moat]

I'll keep that in mind for sure

[dawn spade]

I just meant bombs

[neat moat]

How would the launch the bombs?

Did you also give them silos?

[dawn spade]

Arnt nukes nuclearfision

[neat moat]

You have to detonate it somehow

[dawn spade]

I just wanted to sound smart 😦

[graceful dust]

place near me does like. a... a workshop? i think? its free. they do wills & shit

gotta catch them doing that again

[dawn spade]

Idk man, im sure they'll figure it out

Just place like one nuke in a silo, do it real fancy like

Then they have a goal to work towards

Pray to it and all

[graceful dust]

i do kinda wanna teach them nuclear fission for energy generation but part of that would be teaching them to use & maintain it

might take a minute

[neat moat]

Alright I'll grant you the nukes, but I'll monkey paw your wish and have you forget to give the launch codes

[dawn spade]

The fun is them working that stuff out themselfs

[graceful dust]

theyre gonna let the nukes just sit there

u want them to brute force the launch codes?

[dawn spade]

See how a random piece of magic unusable future tech that doesnt seem to do anything affects there developement

[graceful dust]

theres alrdy a movie abt that

[neat moat]

I think the biggest problem would be what would they even use all that power for? They'd need machinery and the like I'm imagining first

to justify it that is

[graceful dust]

idk can nuclear energy be stored?

[dawn spade]

It also beeps

Just so they dont get bored of it

[neat moat]

Im not sure, but say it can. What are you storing it for? Remember these people are in the stone age. Nothing has been invented yet that uses electricity. The only use id imagine would be to start fires. But there are simpler ways im guessing

I feel the nuclear plant would need to be in addition to other tools, say manufacturing

[dawn spade]

Ya'll are making it too complicated, for making it so hard the future tech is being downgraded

All they get is a laptop, and all it has is solitair

[neat moat]

That does require power, which the plant provides. Give them means of repsuce extraction and they have a Tribeca. The plant powers the manufacturing, the manufacturing powers the extraction, and the extraction powers the plant. And each rung supports one another

[dawn spade]

When it runs out of charge... cope

[neat moat]

Did you rember to tell them the password?

[dawn spade]

Shit

[neat moat]

what kind of laptop would work best

[dawn spade]

Top of the line gaming laptop

[neat moat]

Im guessing one of those chunky ones with rubber on the outside

[dawn spade]

Solitair needs the power

[neat moat]

True, but those are delicate and can get water damage

[dawn spade]

If it gets damaged or wet they also can just cope

U know what, fuck it. They get a grenade, final offer

Have fun with your new rock kids

[neat moat]

Yeah I can't exactly monkey paw this one

[dawn spade]

Lmfao

[neat moat]

you get what's coming

[karmic jetty]

guh

bank mobile app annoying me once more

erm we need to know this is u but on a diff device

bish ive done everythin but u want me to go to an atm still what the shrimpppp

[toxic relic]

can you send a verification code

[karmic jetty]

checked all those bruh

bank still thinks im sus

so im barred from interweb banking until i go atm

[vital marten]

[livid notch]

https://tenor.com/view/far-cry3-among-us-vaas-not-funny-3times-gif-21813824

[graceful dust]

will be rly handy when they get around to using it yk

what is anyone storing energy for, rly?

[foggy remnant]

you guys will never fucking believe what i got

HATSUNE MIKU

IS CHILLING

ON MY FUCKING

TASKBAR

THIS IS AWESOME

HOLLYYYYY SHITTTTTT

[graceful dust]

gz

[dawn spade]

Give me the account details, ill see if i can sort it out for you

[thick torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-project-zomboid-zomboid-gif-27312921

Oh

Sad times

[dire timber]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-project-zomboid-zomboid-gif-27312921

[earnest latch]

Alice belt acquired

5 of them acc

Wait wrong chat

[neat moat]

Well that will take thousands of years. No batteries, not even modern ones, will store energy for that long. By the time they develop the nessesary tech that usulizes power, the batteries and the plant will be nothing but decrepit ruins and dust

[livid notch]

Muldraugh ain't that bad

[dire timber]

What if entire map muldraugh

[livid notch]

Hmm it'll be too good

So many factories and cargo storages

[dire timber]

:3

[stone nexus]

Oops! It's ALL Muldraugh!

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thats where we're drawing the line with realism?! 😭

i can teach the cavemen nuclear fission but not how to store energy! i see!!!!

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let me in

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anything can be picked apart into "unrealistic"

i think in this hypothetical if you have the tools to help prehistoric humans build nuclear fission reactors and such, youll have the tools to help them store energy

also if you teach them and help them set shit up they will use it

what happens after requires more thought

speculative fiction

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if im allowed to i think we can acknowledge itll take time & effort & the magic of being a fun thought game

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if youre allowed to

im not stopping you

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im gonna do it. im gonna give them batteries

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i agree itll take time

interesting thoughts

https://tenor.com/view/battery-explosion-explode-explodes-unboxing-gif-26046605

its good they stopped before the explosion finished; that was almost unsafe practice

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main hurdle is that i dont think cavemen have a whole lotta foresight theyre all wrapped up in securing survival needs & learning to paint

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i mean

what is "cavemen"

prehistoric humans would have had time

and curiosity

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we've always been painting man

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real

the stars paint the sky

and the birds paint the ground with their poopoo

we all be painting

peepeepoopoo hehe

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i mean like making paint & smearing it on surfaces

always been big on that

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i understand

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we all shit too tho

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shitting is not a universal practice

neither is pissing

many animals vomit out their waste

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a life without shitting & pissing... i dont want to imagine it

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or dont produce waste that way, if that all

zomboid moment

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unmodded zomboid moment

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https://worldwidebirder.com/do-owls-poop-the-truth-revealed/

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so like i say foresight cos its hard to see the benefit of a battery if u cant conceptualize half the things power is used for

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some animals poop but also

a secret third thing

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& the other half is like lightbulbs

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you can teach people that

humans havent always known about batteries

it was an adjustment

just have a yap session about science with demonstrations so they dont think youre just some random scammer

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before we had batteries we had things we wanted to use batteries on

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im sure prehistory humans have that too

ideas

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see i dont even know what

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"hmmm if only we had a way to ensure our food doesnt spoil"

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i am NOT teaching them the evils of modern refrigeration

i was alrdy typing that when u suggested it

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"hmmm if only we had a way to make a fire that lasts all night without me needing to stoke it and get wood"

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also theres other methods of refrigeration they have access to alrdy

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real

there were and are alternatives to things that use power

im sure they had an efficient way to heat homes too

suffering through things is not the way

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im p sure theres this too but i know so few methods of regulating temp

so like yeah i would want cavemen to have a cooktop. they deserve it

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"hmmm if only we had a way to make cool toys for kids so i dont have to babysit them all day instead of going to the lake and contemplating existence"

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u want them to have ipad babies

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no

rc cars

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oh ok

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https://tenor.com/view/rc-car-drives-fail-gif-23309925

i broke my toe with one when i was a boy

gud times

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also the method being like. basically making a cellar. no suffering has ever happened in a cellar

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feijoa sorbet

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what did sorbet ever do to u...

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u dont like feijoa?

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havent had it

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its hmm

you had kiwi?