i'm sorry if i sound like a karen
#pzwiki_editing
wild salmon
what spiffo said
if your shit keeps crashing and rolling back then yeah, no doubt you'll survive a bite
split trail
i did not crash
wild salmon
Devs themselves said it's suppose to be impossible to survive the bite and that they fixed that bug a long time ago
buoyant forge
You didn't survive. Your game bugged out OR crashed, or was affected with mods. Where do you even get this info about 95%, see wiki ,this is officially posted by TIS. And there is no a single world on the earth about 95%... you can enjoy your little achievement but don't misinform people .
wild salmon
You don't need more than this
split trail
you do realize there have been multiple probablity tests if you don't believe my word than try yourself
im not trying to insult anyone here
wild salmon
your word doesn't mean shit around here, again
split trail
i am just stating that i lived
vanilla
no crashes
no bugs
and you can not believe me if you want
but the truth is 95% i rest my case
wild salmon
keep your fairy tales to yourself then
echo herald
I'm pretty sure there was a proof on forums that bites are 100% lethal.
Which is written right in the code.
split trail
then why do people survive big brain?
echo herald
Mods, bugs.
split trail
anyway i agree to dissagree
echo herald
There are a lotta stuff thay can happen.
But it's guaranteed death according to code so I don't see any point in continuing.
split trail
well i respect your opinion but it has been proven otherwise
goodbye now
good argument
split trail
farewell dear argument buddy
split trail
dude the arguments over
wild salmon
no, read it
wild salmon
let me just dm you then
split trail
have*
buoyant forge
You might have played with infection turned off, in this case you have a chance to survive the bite if keep well fed ( in b40) , and I'm sure you had mods lol.
split trail
nope bud
worthy igloo
Dexa 2.0
split trail
?
tulip kiln
Yeah, it's 100%.
frail fossil
At this point I'm just thinking he's fucking around with us
flint rune
Try to be a bit nicer even if you're disagreeing guys - but as said bites are definitively without question 100%. Now, maybe there's a bug again but we'd need full reproduction steps as it's a pretty hard thing to replicate in general.
tulip kiln
So we’re supposed to believe your claim over one of the staff members?
frail fossil
Just don't, move on
rugged lake
proof or it didn't happen
never survived a bandaged bite in 5 years of playing and I tend to see my characters through once they are bit
flint rune
Definitely not 100%
I don't know why you're arguing the point dude. 😄
This screenshot is pretty relevant now here too I guess.
As I said, if it's the case we need reproduction steps, but it's definitively 100%. There was a bug which allowed survivability, and maybe it's back, that's how bugs can be. No point to making this argument endless otherwise.
Ah you're not the original poster, that's Nico. Still, it's relevant for anyone else who disagrees. 😄
tulip kiln
nah, ya didn't
frail fossil
Not true I survived a bite
You are all little brained if you think you can’t survive
tulip kiln
The canon for the game is that bites are guaranteed death, plus devs confirmation confirms this
tulip kiln
Where's the confirmation?
tulip kiln
ok now i realise ur fucking with me
frail fossil
👏
flint rune
Cool, now stop detailing channels with nonsense in the future.
rugged lake
sure hope they elect a cooler guy in 2021
floral maple
Who?
main girder
Guys, I've got a question about metall barricades, the ones you can see through. Can they be made with metal pipes? Or only metal bars? Or is there any way to craft metal bars?
frail fossil
You can craft a metal bar with two metal pipes and some tape
inner dragon
How long do i have to wait for my carrots and beets to bear seeds? And if i jar them do i have to cook the jar before putting it inside the fridge?
buoyant forge
You will see the seeding stage (seeds appear on the plants), but if your plants were sick they will die before the seeding stage or will give only seeds without vegetables. Carrots are prone to disease, but if you plant them with a space between each cell the chance of productivity will be higher.
vital raptor
@worldly fern English only please. We cannot moderate other languages. Also increases your chances of an answer.
worldly fern
I need a team matesd
buoyant forge
elder atlas
lul
frail fossil
Hey buddy I think you got the wrong channel, #lfg_americas is a few channels down
vernal pewter
can drinking alcohol and taking pills at the same time kill you in this game?
tardy roost
Probably not @vernal pewter
buoyant forge
@vernal pewter sleeping pills will alcohol will be lethal
vernal pewter
thank you!
calm mesa
also sleeping pills alone can end you
amber falcon
Can someone help me.
Im trying to understand the zombie sense and how they work.
Is there a website/forum explains it?
buoyant forge
In what branch?) You can find more options to tune zombies in SandBox. https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Custom_Sandbox
viscid spire
who is spiffo and why is he so helpful
frail fossil
You mean the user or the mascot?
thorny iris
brave hazel
Is there a schedule to the Life and Living TV program or is it a random chance each hour?
timber sorrel
calm wind
tardy hound
Hi guys...I got the gape to play with a friend...but the spawn point is insane....we never managed to find each other....is there a guide on how to config the server properly?? I've surched online but everything seems a little overwhelming.......Also, is there mods that are recomended for multiplayer? Thanks!
frail fossil
@tardy hound well you can install the mod called hilltop survivor camp
Also this is not a right channel to ask stuff like this
Go #pz_b42_chat and i can help you i guess
Or DM me
Ping me when you need help
But do quick cuz i gotta go to bed soon
sacred tundra
Hi guys...I got the gape to play with a friend...but the spawn point is insane....we never managed to find each other....is there a guide on how to config the server properly?? I've surched online but everything seems a little overwhelming.......Also, is there mods that are recomended for multiplayer? Thanks!
@tardy hound The owner of the server can access to the admin menu and tp players to them
molten ether
@tardy hound You can set custom spawn points, the easiest one you can do is an example "Twiggy's Bar" which you can enable by un-commenting one line in a server config file. DM me if you'd like specific details.
buoyant forge
Pickled food page links to the page of bags and clothes (
languid kayak
Should I add Build 41 to wiki on regular pages or should it be kept stable only? I think there's already some discrepancy on some pages
buoyant forge
I see both:3
languid kayak
So how should I add 41 stuff, e.g. here :P? https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Furniture
pure nimbus
Anyone know which file to delete to reload a fresh map on a server
I accidently let the world continue while I wasnt working on it and the world drastically decayed
Also may or may not of played with pipe bombs
Lol
I know most servers have some world or map file you delete
languid kayak
I added first set of Chairs and Couches from https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Furniture#Couches by manually copying some of the values from TileZed, but is there an easier way to do it? I can see the values there, but it feels unnecessary lengthy and prone to errors doing so (I also used the 41.39 version properties, just realized the page is set to stable version but that doesn't matter at the moment). I can open the *.tiles in text editor and see the plain text parts of it, but not sure if there's an easy way to parse it? Seeing as @digital helm done most of the edits, did you also fill all the entries by hand? And did you cut each furniture from the tilesets .png from here https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/23816-latest-tilezed-worlded-and-tilesets-may-17-2018/ screenshotted TileZed (I don't see a save as png/whatever option, but I didn't use TileZed much), or something else? (extracting from game files, screenshotting from the running game etc.)
tulip ibex
Русскоговорящие амигос. Пишите в дис, поиграем
ivory needle
what does salveged assaltrifle use'
frail fossil
?
inner dragon
what does salveged assaltrifle use'
@ivory needle The clip should have the ammo written on it
inner dragon
Btw can you somehow put glass inside a window?
buoyant forge
You can pick up windows with a crowbar and then place them in the window frame of your base
The lower carpentry level the higher chance of breaking windows while picking them up
hollow summit
what is that mod called again when u zoom out there is no blur?
tulip kiln
It'd be better to ask in #pz_b42_chat or #mod_development.
But I dunno if a mod like that exists for b41, the blurry zoom out is there for performance.
hollow summit
im not sure if it's a mod either but I do remember I had something like that when I zoomed out it was hd
and no blur
tulip kiln
They reversed that for optimizations, when zoomed in the characters are HD but when zooming out it's more blurry.
They did it like 6 months ago probably.
hollow summit
yeah but still I downloaded something and it worked
daring yew
Long Blade skill... what weapons fall under this catagory? Machetes and Katanas are exceptionally rare. Are there any common weapons that are long-bladed?
tulip kiln
I don't think so.
glacial pebble
tulip kiln
As time passes, katanas and matches become easier to find, still rare but easier to find.
unique bone
New denver, can anybody answer me if it's connect to knox?
wise lake
Yes @unique bone
unique bone
Thanks
digital helm
@languid kayak Sorry for the late reply...
I used this little handy programme: https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/3511-pz-unpacker/&tab=comments#comment-47977
It will unpack the files into an .xml (reference) and .png. Most of the files you're after are in UI.pack or UI2.pack. Using the outputted .png files, I cut and pasted it all by hand. It's a lengthy process, but I had a lot of time to do it back then.
Also, in regards to 41 vs 40 stuff. The wiki isn't updated frequently enough to worry too much about stable vs iwbums.
I would recommend any 41/iwbums features you do add though, have this notice box at the top of the section https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Template:Testing. An example of its usage can be seen here: https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Weapons#Build_41.
The most important part of this, is that it adds the page to a category: https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Category:Testing_branch. This allows us/people to go back and work through the pages, removing the notice, once build 41 goes to stable.
languid kayak
Thanks 🙂 I may take a look, but yeah, lack of time is always a problem lol
thorny iris
im playing build 41 iwbums. Tailoring, how do i get "fabric"?. i have sutre needle, needle and scissors in open inventory. I have ripped many clothes and tried to right click on each of the items and scoured the "B" menu crafting window, and all the skills tabs.
sharp flame
@thorny iris "fabric" are ripped sheets, denim and leather strips. Make sure you also got a Needle and Thread in your inventory
valid sorrel
I have a question, whenever I try and hotwire a car, whenever it fails there's a "breaking" sound
like something snapped
does anything actually break, or is it just a sound effect?
sharp flame
@valid sorrel Nah that just lets you know that you failed to hotwire it
pastel dirge
yes
harsh ledge
Hello there! I have a question that might was answered before... Is bite still cant be cured? In IWBUMS.
hybrid drum
Bites are still almost certainly terminal, in my experience
No way to cure it outside of sheer luck, and even that is slim
harsh ledge
I know that in 40 it can be cured but with very low chance. So I thought that in new version this chance higher 🙂 In 41 they bites a lot more than 40. Anyway thanks for answer!
hybrid drum
Did some reading around - looks like bites being survivable earlier in the game was actually the result of a bug, which seems to have been patched as of 41. All signs point to bites now being 100% lethal, though you may still be able to stave death off for a time by eating well and keeping up with your bandages.
In this case, prevention is the best medicine - armour up, when you can!
harsh ledge
That was a bug? lol
hybrid drum
Apparently, yeah :P
frail fossil
I already disproved that
Notice how I first use the old wiki, then the official one
hybrid drum
Good to know all those characters I got bit on weren't insta-deleted for nothing then
gusty beacon
Pretty sure someone asked this 2 weeks ago
And one of the devs replied saying they said it as a meme once but that’s the full depth of it
harsh ledge
As for me, bite - perma-restart 🙂
vital raptor
I know that in 40 it can be cured but with very low chance. So I thought that in new version this chance higher 🙂 In 41 they bites a lot more than 40. Anyway thanks for answer!
@harsh ledge
I know this discussion is done but just wanted to confirm what @frail fossil said.
Surviving a bite is not a thing, neither in 40 nor 41.
As for it not having been confirmed by us, there's this:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/0/1779387743945073897/#c1779387743948387182
wild salmon
it's the discussion that just keeps on giving
valid sorrel
so wait, if I have lighter shoes then I can be sneakier?
is it the same for clothing?
also, does camo do anything?
valid sorrel
also, I remember getting some thread randomly, I don't know what from, is it from cleaning clothes or ripping apart fabric?
hybrid drum
I'm not sure about the stealth mechanics
I did just test the thread out, though: tearing up both t-shirts and pants seem to have a chance of giving you a tiny amount of thread. Likely extends to all rippable clothing
valid sorrel
aw , thanks
good to know
best rip everything on every zombie then
all the thread
hybrid drum
I only tested it with clean clothing, but I bet you could get thread from dirty stuff too
urban tulip
how can I heal bites ?
Not infections, I mean the bite wound, I keep using bandages but it don't seems to heal over time :/
sullen jolt
bite=dead
frail fossil
Alcohol and bandages, although they heal super slow, kinda like bone fractures
urban tulip
Alcohol and bandages, although they heal super slow, kinda like bone fractures
@frail fossil oh ok, thanks :)
super slow like weeks, months... ?
frail fossil
weeks
urban tulip
ok, good to know.
Thanks again 👍
languid kayak
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Template:Current_version could be updated; I can't as I have no rights for it 😦
spark dirge
Does walking with your weapon ready to hit also work as sneaking?
Sorry. Does walking with your weapon ready by holding down the right mouse button also qualify as sneaking?
hybrid drum
Walking while aiming is definitely stealthier than normal walking, but it seems that you only gain sneaking experience while crouching
spark dirge
Bugger. OK. Thought there was some reason why it was no longer going up. Not much of a stealth guy.
frail fossil
Nvm, just a hammer and 3 carpentry
timid wyvern
Can i write things in a Empty Notebook? I tried equiping it and nothing worked. I had it and a red pen in my inventory and only shows "Read"
uncut spindle
@timid wyvern I think you need a pencil, or a regular pen.
timid wyvern
Thanks i will try it
tardy roost
@timid wyvern if you still never figured it out, you have to select read, then you can write on it as well
untold fern
Can you shoot zombies from the second floor looking down in b40?
spark dirge
Not sure myself. I am to confident to get to the point I can shoot anything.
untold fern
Another question if you baracade a door will you still be able to open it
tulip kiln
No, you can't open a barricaded door.
untold fern
Aight thanks
digital violet
Yes you can shoot down @untold fern
verbal hemlock
can you get zombified from getting tripped from a zombie when they climb over a fence or through a window?
digital violet
If they bite or scratch you then yes
frail fossil
I asked Nasko about this before and no, this is not the case
You get injured, but that's due to the fall
spark dirge
So your saying it is considered a trip and not an attack.
verbal hemlock
does sitting have any positive benifits?
verbal hemlock
whats the eta on multiplayer?
spring heart
Is the wiki right about cooked fish fillet? It says -33 hunger when fresh cooked but I had 6 that gave me between -3 and -6 hunger
frail fossil
Depends on the fish and how many fillets you got from it
spring heart
Fished 4 and got 2 from each one
They were small but 1 of them gave 2 fillets which gave me -33 hunger
spark dirge
How does one repair a window? I know there is supposed to be a way too pull one out and put it in.
frail fossil
You get another one from another house with a crowbar. And #pz_b42_chat
spark dirge
And what? I have a crowbar but no option to take out a window.
obtuse field
You need to pick it up like a piece of furniture
spark dirge
Thank you! That's what I forgot.
timid wyvern
Hey, does not wearing socks gives you something? like pain in the feet or other thing. I never tried
spark dirge
Are loot able items randomly generated on first viewing of the container or when you first come within a zone?
frail fossil
Waiting on the stuff of jewelry
astral zodiac
I have a question, is there any way I can appear in the one I want?
naive void
is there anything i can craft to reduce unhappiness, or is it just books and dessert i find?
nvm saw on wiki each ingredient added reduces unhappiness
thorn junco
Hello, i wonder how i can place a rope in the ground, i have a sledgehammer to destroy the strair and put a rope to get up
what i need? i have nails. rope and a hammer.
lilac pivot
@thorn junco as far as i know you have to be upstairs and need a rail, fence or window frame to put the rope on.
thorn junco
Thanks!
spark dirge
OK. Here is a technical one. Do you earn the same amount of skill each time you add a bandage? IE does a bandaid/ripped sheet/bandage/Sterilized ripped sheet/bandage all give the same amount of EXP?
OK. Tested myself. Seems same exp for bandage as well as sterilized bandage.
edgy thorn
Kinda wish there was a chart on the wiki for what furniture gives what xp
knotty turret
beds give fat xp
spark dirge
You can always start making a list then update the wiki. Or give it to someone who will update it.
obtuse field
Electrical is all the same - 0.5 xp per device by default, doesn’t matter if it’s earbuds, a radio, or a tv
might be different for items like payphones and wall clocks
obtuse field
Here’s the full list of electronic XP:
0.5 XP - all radios, all walkie-talkies, all ham radios, all TVs, all small electronics (i.e. CD player)
1.25 XP - wall clock, popcorn machine, air blower, soda dispenser, lamps, wall lamps
2.5 XP - pay phone, arcade machine, security terminal, desktop computer, treadmill
3.75 XP - jukebox
5 XP - large modern ovens
slow schooner
what about mechanic? its a pain in the ass. all ive been doing is stripping cars for parts and just leaving them since i dont need them
knotty turret
what to do with useless stuff like tin cans and pop cans?
obtuse field
Collect them as a symbol of your impressive ability to survive
knotty turret
oh
tender sonnet
put them in the recycle bin
obtuse field
I actually have to restrain myself from collecting every single piece of jewelry I find
buoyant swift
I try to find the valuable digital watch
spark dirge
Is there a point to the jewelry? Is there a purpose for it? EG if I am wearing a necklace does it get ripped off instead of getting scratched?
tulip kiln
Jewellery is purely cosmetic.
grizzled bough
so you cant melt it
knotty turret
no
grizzled bough
so i have about 50 punds o cosmetics
granite dagger
How does the night owl perk that comes with the security guard interact with wakeful? Debating changing to it from Ranger bc I don't care that much about levelling foraging/ trapping earlier on but I want better stealth off the bat.
brave galleon
I checked quite a bit of internet for Night Owl info
And theres literally nothing there, except few claims on the forums Devs themselves admitted Night Owl doesnt do anything
Dunno about now or Build 41 but theres that
digital helm
Build 41.23 "Nightowl fixed, now works properly." https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27133-iwbums-4123-released/&tab=comments#comment-287467
turbid oxide
fixed
turbid oxide
does shooting "spawn" zombies or do they come form the vicinity?
frail fossil
The latter
turbid oxide
are zombies not slowed down by bushes as mush as the player?
or is it just my impression
green elk
They look as slow as player, you can use them to break up a group chasing you for easier dispatch
turbid oxide
so it looks that I might make it into winter time
will I need a wood stove or any other source of heating?
formal pewter
Wiki seems outdated for multiple things
which is ok, that is why I ask questions in the discordoften lol
obtuse field
Sugar got changed recently. It was inedible but now it’s not
formal pewter
Do you use it for recipes?
I kinda just eat it on the spot if I am in a pinch but I've been trying to stockpile it for hopefully baking needs
obtuse field
You need it for cakes and jarring food
digital helm
should be updated now
turbid oxide
I'm about to build my first base, can anyone link me to some info as to how to make effective watchtowers and wall/door distribution?
just basic concepts would be useful
hardy dew
.item sledgehammer
hollow summit
if ur playing on normal zombie count does the zombie count get higher after like 6 months? I know there's a peak but im saying if the zombie count goes from normal to like high for example or insane after like some months
young kestrel
It steadily increases, yeah.
turbid oxide
when I repair an axe using wood glue, is %repair amount based on my carpentry skill?
azure geyser
empty hazel
What level upping on weapons exactly do ?
frail fossil
The former is not true
You get an increase in accuracy with melee, which means you're more likely to hit the head
They don't get faster nor stronger, only strength affects the latter
opal goblet
no it is true the difference is really noticeable at higher levels
kind sphinx
I would almost swear attacks get a little faster as you level up.
hollow summit
did the developers talk about like the future of pz? like what they wanna add etc... if so where?
frail fossil
did the developers talk about like the future of pz? like what they wanna add etc... if so where?
@hollow summit pinned in #pz_b42_chat
hollow summit
thank you
spiral summit
@hollow summit https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Upcoming_versions
hollow summit
yeah i figured it out xD but thanks anyways
and holy hell am I excited for the next builds mama mia
spiral summit
Same ! you're welcome 😄
for me the build 43 and 44 will be the most interesting
especially in coop
pliant oriole
Hello, I found an error in PZ wiki.
it should be base.rope I think..
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Rope
digital helm
Thank you @pliant oriole that's fixed now
knotty turret
the pzwiki is outdated
digital helm
@knotty turret then update it
knotty turret
how
digital helm
You need to create an account
https://pzwiki.net/w/index.php?title=Special:CreateAccount&returnto=Main+Page
knotty turret
ok
tulip kiln
@digital helm Aye, I'd probably start being more active in late Nov when I'm done with Y12. Sorry for becoming so inactive.
digital helm
@tulip kiln it's all good. I've been pretty inactive too this year
hollow summit
can u actually make your cursor small like that or is that like a monitor/resolution thing
swift ember
verbal hemlock
do you guys have a place where i can see the patch notes?
livid sand
@verbal hemlock within the news posts on the project zomboid website they give a link to the changelist! 😄 https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2020/10/on-the-road/
also on the wiki itself! https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Build_41
quasi glacier
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vestal sun
Any idea on what types of containers can potentially spawn fanny packs? If they do infact spawn from them
wild salmon
same as backpacks or clothing
vestal sun
Hm alright
vestal sun
Would anybody know any good, mostly safe places that would have a lot of clothing items in them? Ive tried most clothing stores around the map but havent had any luck finding fanny packs
digital helm
@vestal sun they can currently only be found in wardrobes. They are equally as likely to spawn as "Normal Hiking Bag" and "Duffel Bag".
pulsar wyvern
What is the Angry moodle and why isn't it in the game? Is it because it looks to similar to the pain moodle? Or is it just unimplemented?
dense saffron
it was an old moodle when npc where in the game I think
knotty turret
yeah
verbal hemlock
Did you guys add new life and living shows or are the times changed?
toxic vault
Did you guys add new life and living shows or are the times changed?
@verbal hemlock The times are the same. 6am, noon, 6pm. However, if you tune in an hour or two late, it's saved on DVR and you can watch it anyway.
At least, that's the reasonable explanation to me.
languid kayak
@digital helm do you think you could move https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Metalworking_Guide to simply https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Metalworking ? I think regular user can't do it without removing the current Metalworking redirect first. The redirects could then slowly be renamed, though the redirect should should stay, similar to https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Carpentry_Guide
digital helm
done, cleaning up the links now
languid kayak
Thanks, https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Furniture looks much better now 😛
vestal sun
How often does loot respawn on survivor mode?
heady totem
i think it doesnt respawn
frail fossil
It doesn't, you can check it in the sandbox setting preset
languid kayak
I think https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Furniture could be updated so the stats are from build 41? I kinda did it already as I didn't list non-functional properties for washing mashines and driers and I am tempted to replace Hammer of Stone Hammer for Hammers and Saw for Saws as we have properties that govern it since one of the latest versions and Garden Saw plus Ball-peen hammer can both be used for the tasks now
I also might already input some values from 41 as some items were made pickable and/or disassemblable since, and maybe had some other tweaks too 😛
frail fossil
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Moodles give no in-depth information on what "queasy" does
is queasy just a warning moodle?
languid kayak
@frail fossil queasy is the first step of Sick moodle
not sure it does something by itself, but it's the first sign that something is wrong. It might but might not have been a zombification
could be cold or a fake zombification if you are hypochondriac
I think food poisoning too, if you ate somethithing rotten or burnt. Or something with poison like poisonous berries/mushrooms
or just a simple cold or untreated wound infection
frail fossil
thanks. Does loot generation occur at map generation or at container opening?
luck/unlucky don't say
frail fossil
what about in multiplayer, does it preference hosts?
languid kayak
or when it loads actually, which means not exactly what you see per se, but you'd have to check that to make sure
in multiplayer I think it's when the first player visits it
frail fossil
what about when 2 people are the only ones in the world and they drive in via car?
and have differing luck
languid kayak
good question, you'd have to test that by backing the file and restoring it, or looking through the game files, as I'm not sure anymore. I know that some of the look were in the same exact spot when I went back to the place when I restored and old save. It was on b41 mind you.
frail fossil
well atleast the game state 'remembers' across sessions. That brings some consistency
south solar
digital helm
Most of my focus has been on https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Clothing/Build_41 and https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Weapons/Build_41
Hammer of Stone Hammer for Hammers and Saw for Saws as we have properties that govern it since one of the latest versions and Garden Saw plus Ball-peen hammer can both be used for the tasks now
Maybe a template or something for "hammers", "saws", "knives", "shovels" etc. ?
languid kayak
That could work, especially as that's the direction game is heading – less of "exactly this item" and more of "an item from this class"
timid wyvern
Is there a list of "unbreakable furnitures"?
I know that tables are breakable by zombies (Lernead in the worst possible way btw), but if I'm not mistaken the fridges and couches can't be destroyed by zeds, right?
frail fossil
they can
fridges can be destroyed
it just takes some time
and trust me
i too learned it the hard way
timid wyvern
Oh boy.... Gonna have to put 2 layers of barricades then
timid wyvern
It's because my base is on the "Appartament complex" in rosewood.
So I want to barricade the entrance near the fences, then I can use all the surroundings of the house
timid wyvern
Idk
I'm not very good with nice base locations, so I normally just make one in the first nice place I see
And in that last run, it was the "Appartament Conplex"
knotty turret
Escaping the complex
frail fossil
Escaping the Complex - Zombie Parkour Video 360
frail fossil
?
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light adder
Anyone know of good ways to improve your mechanics level from zero to level 2-3?
(If you could tag me in your reply that’d be great!)
I read books and I have a multiplier of 3 I just don’t want to have to exchange the battery billions of time to get enough xp
knotty turret
use books and uninstall install uninstall install uninstall install
also you dont need to use batteries
use the engine and other stuff or idk
light adder
I can only uninstall and install the battery rn since I’m at level 0
So I guess it’s time for me to exchange and replace battery for forever
uneven sierra
You could just find a REALLY damaged car
And just keep taking everything out and putting it all back in
That's the simplest way
uneven sierra
np
topaz thunder
did construction change? i havent played in a while and i cant build a wall
verbal hemlock
how do you spend money in last stand acumulator
verbal hemlock
cause i cant see how much money i have or the store
limpid yarrow
@light adder Might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure you can uninstall the radio, glove compartment, and other misc stuff inside the car as well (You can right click it on the side of the vehicle panel), if you have Amateur Mechanc you'll gain an additonal 75% XP (With books/fast learner stacking with it)
@verbal hemlock I think the acumulator is currently bugged, I've seen others having the same issue
pastel dirge
@limpid yarrow Yes, the challenge is currently bugged.
light adder
@limpid yarrow thank u! I discovered I can remove wheels and it’s giving decent xp
limpid yarrow
@light adder you can remove brakes and stuff as well
light adder
Didn’t know that..
Will definitely have to look into that more when I’m playing next
topaz thunder
I am playing the basis game (downloaded last week). I have my base set up pretty good, but no sure what to expect from winter. Will i still be able to farm? will i get cold? and in the latter case, does an antique oven fix that? even if the room is quite big?
languid kayak
I'm slowly working on updating https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Furniture page, ideally for build 41, but I also found the https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Containers – it has some unique info (e.g. container icons, including vehicles), but most of the info is already on the Furniture page or could be incorporated there – Containers page is getting out of date too, as it was mostly updated for build 39 and some info there doesn't apply anymore (such as corn plants which were removed). Should this page be kept and updated with the new content or slowly phased out with relevant info being moved to Furniture?
languid kayak
Most of the work is Vaileasys' as of some time, but there have been a bunch of contributors too; the wiki is free to edit though so feel free to contribute too 😛 Would be really nice to have up to date info for when build 41 MP drops
languid kayak
@digital helm The UnPacker tool you linked before (https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/3511-pz-unpacker/&tab=comments#comment-47977) works really nice for extracting raw images (though it crashes for Tiles2x for me for some reason), but is there any way to match item names with tile?
I also noticed that the furniture tiles are exporter facing south while the carpentry and metallurgy ones are facing east 😄
languid kayak
Gonna sleep now, but anyone know where to find it on map? Is it "Blue Bar Stool" (even though it isn't blue?)
frail fossil
Ill have a look around the map
Gonna sleep now, but anyone know where to find it on map? Is it "Blue Bar Stool" (even though it isn't blue?)
@languid kayak
I think i see a single one here (riverside bar) https://map.projectzomboid.com/#0.5231465399813647,0.08507890094667704,2020.1739130434785
frail fossil
Nope that wasnt it
Though i found some! Took some searching but here
Yummmers bar by the mall
@languid kayak
languid kayak
Thanks a lot @frail fossil I checked mall briefly but forgot to check outside 😄
heh, it's indeed blue bar stool 😛 I think I saw some "blue" couch with movables too
I also found these in cinema tilesets, but two cinemas we have all use blue seats it seems
frail fossil
Ill have a look around
Double checked the cinemas and yeah they only use blue seats
Could just be an unused asset?
I dont see where else you could use something like that apart from... a cinema
Also where are you getting these pictures
languid kayak
might be, I cut it from the tileset png extracted with the UnPacker tool I linked above, here's the full image
had to save it again with gimp for it to work 😛 Guess Discord and Imgur doesn't like the format it produces 🙂
languid kayak
btw, why editing picnic table, I found out there's an error in sprite, it's not possible to arrange it so the shadow is correct and it's shown even on map: https://map.projectzomboid.com/#10997x9650 (not sure if you can see it, look at the shadow under the table) https://pzwiki.net/w/images/3/31/PicnicTable.png
languid kayak
Actual game screenshot (at dark, but it's still visible)
languid kayak
I also can't find these at glance – blue ones are in schools, but these gray ones I can't find.
languid kayak
Also looking for these two ATM
These might be some of those benches I haven't added stats for yet: https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Furniture#Benches
languid kayak
I also realized that these two benches look stunningly similar:
Likewide, these I can't identify/find:
- Dark School Bench
- Light School Bench
- Foot Bench
- Long Wooden Bench
- Low Bench Trailer
frail fossil
I think ive seen Bench1 in the riverside school
Was wrong as it turns out
But ill look around a few gyms and such
Not the rs cc either
Found Bench2_ though
I have a feeling the benches i found in the gyms may be Light School Bench
Country club uses the same ones too
frail fossil
Oh! Found one of the pair of similar looking ones here https://map.projectzomboid.com/?#0.4641348884321984,0.10532402433127962,2020.1739130434785
exotic scaffold
Am I correct in my assumption that we're holding off on updating B40 info on the wiki until B41 is on the stable branch?
tulip kiln
Pretty much, we're still trying to do the b41 pages, I'll be inactive on it until around the 20th.
languid kayak
I think B41 is fine, especially as 40 is not really getting updates, e.g. https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Game_Modes was updated for b41 already. For items such as clothing etc. there is a separate section until MP comes off and a {{Testing|build=[[Build 41]]}} notice in the appropriate section
@frail fossil thanks a lot again, I'm checking these spots and see what it's still missing 🙂
tulip kiln
I'd say it's fine as long as you leave the b40 info there and put b41 info at bottom of the page.
That way, people who want b40 info can get it from there, b41 people can get it from there as well.
languid kayak
Hah, turned out these are still the sturdy benches @frail fossil
tulip kiln
All I know is that we got so much stuff to do for b41 wiki pages. It's going to take forever.
languid kayak
Yup
tulip kiln
After all that's out the way, I'm planning on continuing my work on the businesses wiki pages.
languid kayak
you mean b41 stable?
tulip kiln
Yeah, after all the b41 stuff is out the way.
Like last year or something I was working on the pzwiki pages for the businesses in the game, it was quite difficult to do since I'd have to get the map, get the exact number of the parking spaces, plus for the vast majority I have little to work with.
languid kayak
I stopped bothering with furniture pages as it wasn't never comple for b40 either, though some things changed too – some stuff was made movable or disassemblable, few names were changed and new tools were added, though I think no new tiles was really added yet
tulip kiln
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Spiffo's The Spiffo's page is probably the best one I did and it's pretty meh.
languid kayak
Oh, those – I like these, I made a lot of red links in https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Knox_Country and tried to keep the names unified, but these should be taken look at
btw, where are some sprites such as https://pzwiki.net/wiki/File:Nolan's_Used_Cars.png taken from? Is it used somwhere in game?
tulip kiln
It'd be cool to eventually get to work on this stuff but it's pretty low priority though.
I think I might have some of the logos? Lemme check.
@languid kayak Here they are, I think Vail made them or something? Cause I got them from him. Do keep in mind, it's not every business, but a decent amount.
I still remember that time when I was in the planning process for doing the crossroads wiki page[still haven't got it done yet] I had to count every single parking space.
languid kayak
Thanks! That's probably since not all businesse have logo in game 🙂 And Nolan's do indeed have one, was a while since I was there last time: https://map.projectzomboid.com/#11661x8339 (level 1)
and you were the one who counted houses in Muldraugh?
languid kayak
oh, okay
tulip kiln
https://pzwiki.net/w/images/thumb/b/b5/WelderMaskHighRes.jpg/800px-WelderMaskHighRes.jpg Although I've been the one who did some of the b41 clothing pages, what I was trying to do was take the ingame pics in locations related to it, welder mask in a repair garage, police stuff outside the police department, generic/civilian clothing in clothing shop dressing rooms.
It takes more effort but I feel like it looks cooler.
languid kayak
@frail fossil nothing new sadly 😦 The ones in gyms are always Sports Benches and the ones in Country Club are Oakwood Benches
languid kayak
~~I am stupid as I didn't keep track of how does the chairs looked like when I filled stats for https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Furniture#Chairs~~
Now I miss those:
Black Fancy ChairModern White ChairWhite Simple Chair- and Yellow Wooden Chair which I never found.
One of them is this one:
nvm, I found Black Fancy Chair, it's an armchair actually
Found it, it's White Simple Chair, so just the Modern White Chair and Yellow Wooden Chair are missing now
frail fossil
Ive found other items listed as modern in the riverside gated community before
Could maybe find something there
languid kayak
I'll take a look – I'm done with chairs at the moment, but maybe when doing couches I'll find some of these two
languid kayak
Okay, found the Modern White Chair, it turned out to be an armchair, now to find the matching tile for it 🙂 EDIT: Found it, armchairs are done for now
languid kayak
okay, I'm pretty much done with Comfort furniture now: https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Furniture#Comfort
I'm tempted to remove these, as I don't know if they appear anywhere on map – if anyone finds these movables (comfort or not), let me know!:
- Yellow Wooden Chair (this doesn't even appear in Movables_EN.txt)
Dark School BenchLight School Bench- Foot Bench
- Long Wooden Bench
Low Bench Trailer- Tool Bench
- Wooden Bench
I might have done some images wrong, so if someone finds an issue let me know – I might stiched one of the couches tile wrong, I'll take a look later, but some tiles have issues in-game too. I'm not sure if I added the right image for Oakwood Bench as two of these are found in two tilesets and I migth have missed something plus there are those three seems to be unused tiles I posted before (grey plastic chair, two benches and red theater chairs) – I might add them as unusued/removed content somewhere and maybe check tile properties in game files or somehow spawn the movables in debug (something I discussed in https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/30869-ability-to-spawn-all-movables-in-debug/)
Stats are based on what I see in build 41, though the only differences should be the names and pickable/movables properties – bed quality is only visible in recent 41 builds by default, but should be the same in b40 and could be seen with a mod prior. I think no new tiles were added in B41. There are no overlays added either, those require extra work, maybe someday.
I might add tables and copboards next, then signs, but I'll see if I'm up for a task 😛
languid kayak
In case someone finds it useful: https://pzwiki.net/wiki/User:Faalagorn/Furniture_styles
jagged rock
Hey there i've recently gotten back into project zomboid, and i am one of the people who high rely on the WIKI it to get info on certain things in game.
so first off i just wanna say thanks for what y'all do.
also ive noticed that there are alot of things that havent been updated in a min since getting back into the game. if i wanted to try to help get the wiki more filled out where would i start / go?
languid kayak
Hey @jagged rock ! I'd say take a look on https://pzwiki.net/wiki/PZwiki:Community_projects Are you playing regular version (40 with multiplayer) or IWBUMS (41 without multiplayer)? Most of the wiki is prior build 41, but there's some work already for Build 41 – if you want to update things ideally, you'd want to keep existing things for build 40 and add a notice for build 41, but eventually when it comes down from beta, all stuff will be updated to build 41, so I wouldn't stress too much on keeping build 40 up to date personally, unless it's the version you're playing
jagged rock
sounds good im going to try to lurk a bit and read up on the wiki so i can get a better grasp of whats needed. also yeah im on build 41
languid kayak
it does, but doesn't spawn. You can spawn it in debug, it originally was for smithing
frail fossil
It seems to be used for alot of dissassembly and moving furnature but its page is completely barren
Ah
languid kayak
it also exists in b40, but can only be used to move stuff in b41 since they introduced common flags for tools (something I breifly discussed with Vail here some time ago :P)
oh, and the name in b40 is Ball Peen Hammer http://undeniable.info/pz/wiki/item.php?Name=BallPeenHammer
languid kayak
frail fossil
😳
languid kayak
I also found an unused bed sprite, I may assemble it and upload to wiki for safekeeping
@frail fossil do you think any of the missing comfort items currently missing spawn anywhere? The names are there in movables, so there might spawn somewhere but as a totally different things. I've searched all the 2x tiles again to find if I missed anything and just found a twin bed recolor
frail fossil
I dont know shiiiit
I just want to help with the wiki without needing to edit pages because i dont know shiiiit
Also i cant do much with just names
Images however
languid kayak
😆 Though editing wiki isn't hard in the first place – if you want to fix a typo you literally just find and edit that letter for example. Not sure if there's a graphical editor in PZWiki, but I prefer the non-graphical one as I have more control over formatting
frail fossil
No i mean like if you want me to find specific tiles i can but ill need an image
languid kayak
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/User:Faalagorn/Unused_tiles – the first tile is for reference, the second ones I haven't found anywhere
except Turnsites which were teased here: https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Planned_Features#Locations 😉
languid kayak
Not sure whether to put that into Furniture as well? It's big, not sure how many tiles, not pickable, not disassemblable
languid kayak
Okay, I found Light and Dark School Benches, definitely not something for comfort so these can be surely deleted from that section 😉
languid kayak
Found Low Bench Trailer too
languid kayak
I wonder if any of these aren't called benches but I can't find them on the map. These are from medical tileset and one I think is in tutorial
Yup, the second tile is in tutorial but can't be moved so I can't see its name or stats
There are these, too:
(and they are even modeled inside 😉 )
languid kayak
Also this trash chute; is it to be found on the map? Is it a container that can remove items like other trashes?
Also, are parking meters to be found anywhere on the map? they have the regular and damaged by a car sprite
languid kayak
nvm, found it
languid kayak
Up to date https://pzwiki.net/wiki/User:Faalagorn/Unused_tiles – I have a feeling that the low medical table might be a Foot Bench. Tool Bench I imagine would be something with tools, but I checked all the car repair shops and factories 🤔
languid kayak
knotty turret
oh my god please tell me thats in the map
languid kayak
soon™
Probably Luisville, so might take a while though
I think it was teased for Luisville, but I'd have to find appropriate mondoid/thursdoid
languid kayak
What could this be? It was on a tileset with sport things (rest of the tiles are for bowling, basketaball, baseball, tennis, golf and fitness). I thought it could be a ballet barre at first, but it seems it's different looking
pale cargo
Wow, great work here!
languid kayak
Now the question is, where should I put miscellaneous items that are not containers and serve no purpose except decoration/barricade/disassembly stuff that doesn't fit any specific category – like Metal Barrel, Coat Rack, Doghouse, Cement Maker (though I guess I can push that one to Electrical appliances)?
or stuff like road cones, barricades…
languid kayak
Is there a carousel anywhere in the vanilla map?
languid kayak
Thanks!
languid kayak
I have a ton to add yet, but I've been thinking of moving items out of electronics section – new category for washing/drying machines, computer to communiction (it was teased it'll eventually work; sprints are there too), containers to storage and move the rest to miscellaneous – doesn't make sense to group them game-wise as aside from the washing and drying machines in b41, they don't even drain any electricity (yet)
frail fossil
I think ive seen some satellite dishes at the sgf@languid kayak
languid kayak
yup, the dishes are all there :). I've added the big one to the page recently
gonna go sleep though; have work in a few hours and should be in a bed already probably ;). I'll see how much time I'll have on the weekday though I was honestly surprised I did so much 🙂
frail fossil
Doing gods work
Because god apparantly edits pzwiki pages
???
does that make you god 😳
What could this be? It was on a tileset with sport things (rest of the tiles are for bowling, basketaball, baseball, tennis, golf and fitness). I thought it could be a ballet barre at first, but it seems it's different looking
It looks like some kind of railing to me
Ill check around in some gymesque places
Found them in the mall
Clothing store funnily enough
languid kayak
I thought about it, but it seems to be something different – these have two metal pipes and the ones I attached has only one
cedar warren
maybe it's two of them? like as if how a fence attaches to the fence next to it those railings could do the same
young kestrel
These are two tiles long, so I'd assume it's just side-by-side
elder atlas
hangers 😆
languid kayak
Maybe these are indeed those, just doubled, thanks!
teal furnace
oh, no then !
they must be stretching bars
if they're in a gym
although their "clothing shop shelves" name seems fitting enough
young kestrel
Probably just tile reuse
teal furnace
^
languid kayak
are they in gym though? I found them with gym-related stuff on a tileset but that might be conincidence
btw, I may want to cut the smithing tiles, they aren't used anywhere I believe but look gorgeus
also, there's a double tile for fireplace I found https://map.projectzomboid.com/#4696x7989 but I'm not sure I want to add it to wiki as-is as @digital helm's rendition of fireplace (with surrounding tiles) is much better anyway and pretty much a fireplace is a fireplace, both have the same capacity and functionality currently.
languid kayak
Does laying brick walls were supposed to come with smithing? There are various tiles made from bricks like these: https://map.projectzomboid.com/#14126x5492
and it's in the same tilesets than the rest of the smithing stuff
I Added https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Furniture#Construction from this tileset – I was thinking of adding all the metal parts, but it would be complicated seeing how they are assembled in game, see https://map.projectzomboid.com/#10956x9337 vs . e.g. https://map.projectzomboid.com/#14126x5507 (especially level 1 where it have a floor too). I thought the Barrel is there, but that's a different time, the ones here have open top (from smithing). There are those sweet smithing tiles too
I never seen the low metal tiles though honestly, are they used anywhere?
obtuse field
They were back from when smithing was gonna be added iirc
young kestrel
I’m pretty sure the cement mixer can be found at construction sites, right?
languid kayak
yup, cement mixer is there for example: https://map.projectzomboid.com/#14131x5477 – can be picked up but not used or disassembled 🙂
I think I'll move the electronics accordingly unless someone minds, like I said yesterday. Separate section for washing machines (with b41 flag as washing is b41 only) and containers to appropriate sections
I think this mod adds back Blacksmithing but I haven't tried it, especially with b41: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1359536489
feral schooner
balancing smithing when
languid kayak
I'd love for it to come back soon-ish, especially with stuff such as tailoring and ball-peen hammer visible as a tooltip in-game (can it be found as a weapon/hammer via distributions right now?) plus you do have recipes still (you can unlock them via debug cheat)
feral schooner
id love for it to just be tied to metalworking, with lower levels giving u rly rly mediocre metal tools or high chance fo boggling up the smithing process
after all, being able to craft metal weapons and such def should be a late game thing
frail fossil
Faal you need any items a-findin
languid kayak
@frail fossil https://pzwiki.net/wiki/User:Faalagorn/Unused_tiles still stands (second row + others), plus Parking Meter but I believe these are nowhere to be found. If you spot something from bricksm, short metal shelves or smithing stuff placed naturally from #pzwiki_editing message you may let me know too, but these are not edited yet 😛
frail fossil
I think ive seen empty yellow barrels before
languid kayak
that'd be nice to know 🙂
frail fossil
My search begins
languid kayak
I wonder if there's some easy way to enable picking items in tutorial, or load a tutorial map in regular game, so I could easily check two tiles or spawn some movables easily
I really wish https://pzwiki.net/w/images/e/e9/Low_Medical_Table.png could be found somewhere, but I searched all the medical places already, but maybe I missed something
languid kayak
yup, the poles are there in various construction spots or warehouses too, maybe I'll add them eventually but right now I won't bother too much 😛 They aren't disassemblable anyway
frail fossil
I feel like i misread something
Am i looking for everything in the smithing tileset
Or
languid kayak
nah, just parts, sorry for confusion 😄
languid kayak
This one got me curious though
languid kayak
same
frail fossil
Not exactly something you would pay attention to though
Also the brick pallets and empty pallets dont count as parts right
languid kayak
the long ones are part of e.g. https://map.projectzomboid.com/#10846x8969 (there's a closed barrel there too), but the small ones not really
yeah, but I already got these 😛 https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Furniture#Construction
frail fossil
Alright
Theres a few more shed things like that
Looks like scaffolding
Id say
Yeah its scaffolding
Found more around 'struction sites
Yeah ita scaffolding
Im gonna have a look around
languid kayak
Actually these too; I know they spawn with vehicle events though
and there I found it 😛
frail fossil
Nice
buoyant swift
the man hole cover also spawns with road zed scenes
languid kayak
yup, found it too a sec ago 🙂
frail fossil
Also theres some lettering in the tileset that i found
Incase thats anything of note
languid kayak
The lettering is here: https://map.projectzomboid.com/#10055x9637
an easter egg btw 😉
buoyant swift
some areas dont make sense for the manhole cover like I found one on a dirt road
frail fossil
Lol
buoyant swift
also road bock signs should have some lighting or reflectors
languid kayak
actually it's the first time I see Strength as disassembly skill
frail fossil
Well i checked every construction site
Found nothing
Same old scaffolding
I have a feeling its been reused as a railing or something
frail fossil
And herein lies the problem
buoyant swift
I wonder If you could pick up that concrete roadblock lol
frail fossil
If its a railing it could be anywhere
Im going to the holy grail of finding random shit
The mall
languid kayak
There's also this brick wall
young kestrel
lol
buoyant swift
ladders would be cool if we could climb them but lets hope some day with animations and be able to build them
frail fossil
I dont think the railing exists
languid kayak
Yeah, I wish ladders were functional – same with the ladders on the billboards
Kinda shame parking meters are nowhere to be found, they even have a set of tiles destroyed by a car
young kestrel
Ladders would be a nice thing between sheet rope and stairs. Not as strong as stairs, but way less resources and levels, and stronger than sheet ropes while still requiring some carpentry.
languid kayak
also you can't start building sheet ropes from ground levels. Would be nice to have this ability with ladders
languid kayak
I'm going to sleep now, rest of work tomorrow, in the meantime you can look for some wine accessories from this set; is there any yet? Some of those tiles are known, but I don't even know where to find regular barrel 😄
(has to be opened as original as I was lazy to convert it) – should open in chrome 🙂
frail fossil
I dont think there are any
young kestrel
Some kind of brewery/distillery?
frail fossil
Dont believe theres either in the game yet
languid kayak
Some of the name changes I made recently are in the GitHub, so hopefully they'll be in the in the next patch or so eventually 🙂 https://github.com/TheIndieStone/ProjectZomboidTranslations/pulls?q=author%3AFaalagorn+ (there's more and I guess I'll find more of them while documenting the wiki :P)
gloomy yew
it’s all fun and games until a zombie knocks over your ladder leaving you stranded on top of your roof
smoky yew
thats why you always have an emergency rope
tender sonnet
@languid kayak You can pick up the morgue table but not disassemble it
modest ginkgo
Why would you? It’s AESTHETIC
frail fossil
<@!270429416155250690> You can pick up the morgue table but not disassemble it
a lot of things can be picked up and not dissasembled
for example
cardboard boxes
which makes sense
you cannot destroy cardboard
the cardboard destroys you
steel inlet
the best outfit for protection is firefighters ? can we make armor ?
frail fossil
#pz_b42_chat , this channel is mostly about editing the wiki itself
languid kayak
@tender sonnet Thanks! How did you check that? Can you also check the morgue cells that are behind the doors? Can they be picked?
tender sonnet
It's fairly simple to use the tutorial or any challenge map in sandbox mode, I did check the cells and I couldn't do anything with them
tender sonnet
https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/dw2a69/kingsmouth_in_sandbox/f7h6ba7/ This comment explains it for kingsmouth, it works for every map but you need to add a spawnpoints.lua for some of the others
tulip kiln
Well, school is over for me so now I'm going to try to get back to work on the b41 clothing pages
languid kayak
Can it be confirmed that Parking Meters aren't found anywhere? If not, what would be the easiest way to spawn it? I guess I can view some of the tile properties in tilezed too
languid kayak
Can this be found anywhere btw? I only found https://map.projectzomboid.com/#11953x6910 and I didn't find anything on knox banks
zenith moat
Not exactly that, but something similar can be found in riverside postal service building
languid kayak
yeah, those I found, they are from the same tileset btw
tulip kiln
@digital helm Oi mate, sorry to be bothering ya, but I forgot how to find the files that have the clothing statistics/info.
digital helm
@tulip kiln steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\media\scripts\clothing
in each of those txt files
tulip kiln
Fuck sake, I'm a fucking idiot. I spent ages yesterday trying to figure that out and thought I was missing the files somehow or something.
Cheers
digital helm
pretty much everything you'll be after is in that scripts folder, i.e. weapons, etc.
tulip kiln
Yeah, thanks
I imagine most of the pages I make are probably going to be meh like they usually are, I'll probably edit them eventually though.
languid kayak
it's wiki, that's how it works 🙂
languid kayak
languid kayak
yeah, there's also barrel stands, I'll make add them all to https://pzwiki.net/wiki/User:Faalagorn/Unused_tiles - seems like a whisky/bourbon destillery 🙂
standing barrel could be used somewhere else, but I think it's not there yet too
languid kayak
Are there any more things other than regular lamps that emit lights other than Neon Sign, Pharmabug and Diner signs? Exit sign? More neon signs? Advertisements?
languid kayak
I just realized there are two lamps of the same shape, the difference is the stand and top color. Are both used in game?
grey ones are in Muldraugh
languid kayak
I'm not sure how to add cubicles; right now you can split them to several pieces (A, B and corner)
languid kayak
nvm, the black ones are used in-game too: https://map.projectzomboid.com/#10742x10175
tulip kiln
Screw it, I'm not going to add a gallery to my pages for a while, I'll edit them later. That way I can make pages faster.
tulip kiln
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Baseball_Cap https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Motorcycle_Helmet https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Spiffo_Suit_Head https://pzwiki.net/wiki/USA_Crash_Helmet Decent amount of progress I made in an hour. Plus I did some minor edits to some existing pages.
languid kayak
looks good; out of curiosity, what do you use to export 3d models?
young kestrel
Y’all are doing God’s work
languid kayak
Also; 41.24?
young kestrel
o7
tulip kiln
@languid kayak This is just some of them that Vail gave me a while back. It's only a few of them. You'd have to ask him about it.[Cause I'd really want some more of these for clothing and weapons]
languid kayak
ah, okay 🙂
btw, anyone remembers where's this in-game? I remember seeing it
Angelic Gravestone
frail fossil
i think i saw it near some church
nevermind
i checked all the churches on the map and there are no angelic gravestones there
maybe they will put it in some graveyard in luisville
@languid kayak
languid kayak
Thanks!
languid kayak
Is it possible to dig 3-tile or longer graves? There are middle tiles for that for both open and closed grave and by default the 2-slot one have empty space in between tiles
tulip kiln
Well, I've made like 5 or 6 pages and probably edited like 10, I think I should call it a night now.
gaunt stump
where can i find a hunter forest camp?
frail fossil
@gaunt stump I don't know what you mean, something like this? Cabin and hunting cabin? https://map.projectzomboid.com/#0.803449125888057,0.30872334171739685,138.50908530965683
gaunt stump
no, it's еvеnt
gaunt stump
thе only way to find m16
frail fossil
so you meant to say "Hunters camping in a forrest"
frail fossil
thе only way to find m16
there is also bandit car event right?
frail fossil
oh ok
languid kayak
I know sewers were teased, but it's funny how there's whole set of tiles called location_sewer 🙂
frail fossil
yea
frail fossil
if they add in sewers they might also add in basements
languid kayak
basements were teased but scrapped for now due to technical reasons, I think it was Enigma who explained it on forums; basically the system they had was too hacky
frail fossil
ok
frail fossil
`Angelic Gravestone`
riverside graveyard incase you still need it
you can carry the fuckers in a seat
languid kayak
😄 Got them though, thanks
I have upddated https://pzwiki.net/wiki/User:Faalagorn/Unused_tiles though @frail fossil – you can take a look wheather you can find a different-looking Antique Outdoor Lamp – seems there are two versions of it
regular one and one that is slightly taller
frail fossil
This looks about right
Seems to be the lower ones though
Most of the riverside shopping district stores seem to use the antique lights
Id suggest looking there if you can find any taller ones
So i combed through riverside
None of the gated houses use antique lights
School doesnt
And pretty much all the regular houses dont
A few notable exceptions though
^
House by the farm
tender sonnet
To me it looks like the "higher" antique lamp is just the regular one but facing the other way
frail fossil
The thing holding the light up is sliiiightly taller
https://map.projectzomboid.com/#0.4408531067550401,0.0572067272276447,1635.7248053159071
House in west-buttfuck-nowhere-town
https://map.projectzomboid.com/#0.5315849763117182,0.08587452179157753,2020.1739130434785
And this house by the gas station
tender sonnet
http://puu.sh/GQ6cO/79b9b8c4ab.jpg it's the same item, just facing north or west
languid kayak
oh, thanks!
I often get confused about items' sides, some only have 1-2 sides and some change appereance when put on a different side
I wanted to add mannequins, but I'm confused over how they work in b41 – there are 3 poses for male and female and two color variations (white and black), however in b41 they did change to but they seem to change depending on what's worn (It's hard for me to guess when exactly – not sure if it's a bug of feature) and they can be rotated – they are also 3d models instead of sprites, though the poses are the same and the 2d models are what appear on https://map.projectzomboid.com/
languid kayak
I'm trying to make an american football goal, but I have nothing in-game to compare about; I tried looking online and it seems to be tall but not wide, yet there's a wide element out there for some reason and I don't know how to assemble it…
Here's the .xcf file if someone want to try their luck (open it with GIMP)
languid kayak
I also wonder whether I should add this as a whole net (which is quite long with repetitive middle) or as parts – it's of low importance though, as these are not pickable or disassemblable and no pressure to do so (what they could be used for?)
This is something you can have fun assembling with, too 🙂
And this one I tried assembling before, but is even harder without references
languid kayak
🙂
There's a lot of signs that aren't used (yet), I'll eventually assemble them all for wiki, unless I burn out earlier 😛
"Ruby Gas"
I found Jukebox Bowling sign though, so guess that's where bowling alley will be
languid kayak
It's funny how Barrier Post is present in damaged and regualar tiles, but both seems to be the same. It's not working though, maybe something's planned for future?
languid kayak
btw, I found Venus Fly Trap, but where's Bonsai Tree, Cacti and two other small potted flowers?
obtuse field
roses are in a motel in muldraugh, i believe
languid kayak
thanks, I'll check 🙂
Funny as how I even screeshotted that spot before but totally forgot about it, thanks @obtuse field !
Now I'm missing those (some of them are most likely the sprites above):
Bonsai Tree
Brown Plant
Bush
Cactus
Fern
Green Plant
Orange Plant
Purple Plant
Small yellow Plant
Violet Flowers
White Plant
Yellow Plant
But that's it for this weekend, gotta go to sleep now
frail fossil
I also wonder whether I should add this as a whole net (which is quite long with repetitive middle) or as parts – it's of low importance though, as these are not pickable or disassemblable and no pressure to do so (what they could be used for?)
Looks like a volleyball net to me
languid kayak
yeah, I don't know whether I should assemble whole tileset (that's 8 tiles or so): https://map.projectzomboid.com/#5788x6363
frail fossil
I recall writing the Use of the pipe bomb years ago, do you guys think it needs some tweaking? https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Pipe_Bomb
Same goes for the flame trap https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Flame_Trap
languid kayak
Not sure if I'd be up for adding much stuff this week, maybe weekend, but after finishing plants there's mostly (except maybe machinery) just tables and containers left now, then wall stuff (incl. mirror, posters), signs (incl. flags, road signs), then floor tiles and maybe others: https://pzwiki.net/wiki/User:Faalagorn but let me know if you find any tiles I've not listed or spot errors, particularity the plant ones
I think I should add sand and gravel bags too, I might do it
frail fossil
My issue with the wiki pages for those bombs is that its pretty vague
How big is a "medium-sized area"
Medium size relative to what???
Also "which requires moderately rare resources to craft" is kinda unnecessary
verbal hemlock
how long do beta blockers last and how much panic do they reduce?
and can a laceration from a zombie infect you?
frail fossil
#pzwiki_editing is for discussion and development about the wiki itself @verbal hemlock
frail fossil
Just because the channel is called "wiki" doesn't mean we're the know-it-alls
frail fossil
Also "which requires moderately rare resources to craft" is kinda unnecessary
Some of the things were already there back then, but I do agree it's vague
Gonna boot up the game later today to get more specific details
languid kayak
… but if you do know, feel free to add it to wiki 😉
gaunt stump
guys, any success in finding a forest hunter camp? If you found one, send me coords
frail fossil
Arent they randomly generator
frail fossil
Yeah
young kestrel
Randomly generated implies they can pop up anywhere. From what I understand, they only appear in predetermined locations. So while the locations they spawn are chosen from a set list, they’re not truly RNG. meaning we can map them as we find them.
languid kayak
I think they can pop anywhere, as long as terrain conditions are right
steep cobalt
So, I just lost my entire harvest of carrots after putting them all inside jars, because the wiki doesn't say one crucial thing: they must be cooked after being canned
Can someone help me elaborate the text to put inside all the "jar of..." articles?
"They must be cooked after being canned to ensure it's freshness for 60 days"?
since english is not my first language I just want to check if doesn't sound weird for anyone reading it
young kestrel
Yeah, canned foods need to be boiled after being put in the jar, because that’s what seals the lid.
steep cobalt
Yeah, I wish I knew that before xD
I'll copy paste this part of the "Empty jar" article inside all "jar of..." articles
"After jarring, it is necessary to cook the jar of food in a heat source. Otherwise, the food will rot as fast as if it were not jarred."
wheat jacinth
there are a lot more new signs not used yet, including for existing places like WP, Riverside and Muld
i made a reference for my own use of the new signs. I didnt add any that had town specific names as I cant work those into custom maps
worthy igloo
Holy cow, I see some suitable loot spawn locations for mod stuff!
Pawn Shop! Dollar Store! Pawn Shop! Scrap Machinery!
Art Supplies!
half pier
wait is it true katanas are in the base game
tulip kiln
@half pier Late reply but yeah, Katanas are in the base game but very rare. As time passes, you can eventually find katanas impaled in zombies.
half pier
nice
one more question was project zomboid stories really a thing back in the day
as it does say the return
sorry if it is a dumb question
tulip kiln
@half pier Yeah, the tech demo had a couple of main characters, Baldspot and Kate. You played as Baldspot.
Baldspot and Kate are the two people in PZ's main menu screen.
half pier
thank you
hollow summit
what exactly does the maintance skill do? also how can u craft stuff with a better condition?
young kestrel
This channel is for wiki editors. You’ll want to ask in #pz_b42_chat
frail fossil
Why is scrolling up so hard
languid kayak
Thanks @wheat jacinth ! What did you use to stitch them up? Was it automatically or did you do it by hand?
BTW, some are used now, such as UStore, Jay's Chicken and I think the US Mail service is 🙂
wheat jacinth
by hand...took me several hours
languid kayak
yeah, same here 😛
I don't mind but if there's a faster way that'd be time saving for sure 😉
the Juke Box Bowling is surely the one bowling tilesets are from
I wonder where Muldraugh sign is supposed to be; it seems to be a Muldraugh Gas?
wheat jacinth
already using the bowling textures....cant wait for the devs to add them 😋
and yeah, i got lazy on the muld gas sign....realized it was muld related and stop trying to build it
languid kayak
I should add this and other unused tiles to wiki, at least here temprarily https://pzwiki.net/wiki/User:Faalagorn/Unused_tiles 😛
languid kayak
These only appear in debug and are not present in regular game?
in 1x tiles it looks like that
young kestrel
Huh
That’s kind of funky
Any idea why? Just an unused tile they never bothered to make a 2X for?
languid kayak
It seems they were used before, but removed (such as Corn): https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Containers#Berry_Bush
young kestrel
Ohhh
languid kayak
@wheat jacinth do you have a screen of assembled american football goal or a boxing ring by a chance? Those are also in the same recreational tileset
wheat jacinth
These only appear in debug and are not present in regular game?
The game doesnt like weed type plants on non-grass or non-dirt tiles
the boxing ring doesnt join up well right now. i think they spliced the textures up incorrectly
the american football goal has been there for a while in the editor, but i dont think any vanilla buildings use it yet
languid kayak
The game doesnt like weed type plants on non-grass or non-dirt tiles
Thanks! Makes sense with the boxing ring, I saw some oddities with it too. I posted images of the american football goal before, but when I use all the tiles it seem too long, do you know which one is right? #pzwiki_editing message
wheat jacinth
id say the 2nd one is correct as the iso view does play trick on the eyes
if you cut/paste the image into photoshop and then skew it 26.7 (or -26.7) you will see what it looks like flattened
@languid kayak
languid kayak
Good idea, thanks!
keen gorge
i made a reference for my own use of the new signs. I didnt add any that had tow...
wow these are awesome
would these new tiles coming soon? I may need to pause my map to consider these new options
most of these signs only facing one way, that gonna cause some challenge
gaunt stump
hello, where can i find this?
frail fossil
wheat jacinth
@keen gorge same here, i gather they are designed for specific Louisville buildings so only need to face in certain directions
frail fossil
I've been doing some experiments on flame bombs and pipebombs to see how I can improve their pages. Pipebombs' AOE is about 13x13 squares and do little damage to zombies, starting few flames. Flame traps' AOE is about 12x12, and starts a lot more flames
Gonna check the pages now
frail fossil
Once thrown, Flame Traps will cover an average area of 12x12 squares, starting several fires in the process. The fires themselves will last for about 10 in-game minutes, not taking into account any other objects or zombies caught in the flames.
Once thrown, Pipe Bombs will cover an average area of 13x13 squares, starting a few fires in the process, pushing back zombies and players alike, causing minor damages to the former. The fires themselves will last for about 10 in-game minutes, not taking into account any other objects or zombies caught in the flames.
This is what I came up with for the "Usage" sections, how is it?
Still haven't added them yet
languid kayak
seems good for me; I wonder if fire rework will further refine this, but I'm not sure when it comes…
languid kayak
honestly, ditches like that (be it graves or just the ditches) would be cool and we already have art in place (made it when assembling grave art)
Actually, there's two different set of tiles in location_community_cemetary tilesets and the one above (as well as the closed equivalent) seems not to be used in-game, at least the placed graves use a different tile
Unless anyone knows a place where the other (3-pieces) grave tiles are used?
btw, it seems Bonsai Tree is in Eerie Country: https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/jp3jk6/abandoned_neighborhood_style_keep_up_the_hard/ – maybe I should just place the tiles I want in a random map? Though I prefer listing tiles that are found in the vanilla world naturally
It's also funny how we have Venus Fly Trap as pickable item but there are also plants of the same size added recebtly as furniture overlays that aren't because they are overlays 😛
Kinda confusing tbh
okay, gotta sleep now, maybe I'll do something during week, I'll see
tulip kiln
@digital helm Hey mate, I've made a lot of changes to this page: https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Lumberjack_Shirt Do you think it's decent and I should start doing most of my clothing pages like that?
frail fossil
@timid latch #pzwiki_editing is a channel for discussion of the wiki itself.
languid kayak
I'd say it's good if you want to go to add it to other pages, go on. I think you can capitalize the words that are in game, while I'd prefer setence case too, it's easier to link pages, e.g. Sheet Rope or Ripped Sheets
verbal hemlock
how come i cant disasemble sstairs?
obtuse field
They’re not furniture. The most you can do is smash them down with a sledgehammer
lofty hound
It can be used in conjunction with a mop, bath towel or dish towel to clean bloodstains from surfaces
rustic tinsel
oh thanks!
rustic tinsel
the armor of clothes apllies on zombies?
frail fossil
yes
rustic tinsel
ok
hallow karma
shoes vs sneakers
frail fossil
okay so if you are the wiki men and women you know alot about the game so how do i put eggs into a cooking pot?
karmic cedar
i was about to say "put the eggs inside of the pot, simple" but i nearly forgot what server i was looking at and im tired asf
wish i could help
i actually dont know
frail fossil
The channel is about discussing the edition of the wiki itself
We're not "the wiki"
For that you have #pz_b42_chat
yea i know
but i had to make the joke
finite orchid
what is the exact chance to get a zombie virus from a bite or a scratch?
frail fossil
first of all this is not a channel full of people that want to answer questions
its about the discussing the edition of the wiki
but the chances are
bite 100%
laceration 25%
scratch 7%
finite orchid
where is the character data stored in the save folder?
frail fossil
bruh we ain't the wiki
finite orchid
in the balls.
halcyon ruin
isengard
bleak vortex
guys quick question. is portable coolers working or have any use?
young kestrel
@bleak vortex You'll want to ask in #pz_b42_chat. The wiki channel is for wiki editors.
frail fossil
this channel is literally useless
its only function is to tell people they r asking in the wrong channel
scroll up and look
its hilarious
young kestrel
Reading comprehension is apparently at an all time low.
tulip kiln
Like Matt said, the channel is for discussion about pzwiki itself. Not the mods fault that people don't read the disclaimer that mentions it's about discussing the pzwiki.
frail fossil
main dagger
Is there any lore to the game?
frail fossil
yes
frail fossil
Kinda hard to follow the lore in game. There's the maps from "survivors", the tv and the radio stations.
frail fossil
Like Matt said, the channel is for discussion about pzwiki itself. Not the mods ...
.
don t ask questions here
do that on pz chat
verbal canopy
backseat mod
lethal lotus
I wanted to update https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Build_41 with 41.46 (hopefully all the way so it's really up to date). It's my first time doing any editing on a wiki and I saw it as a chance for me to try contributing, and after spending an hour figuring out what the formatting is and what all the buttons means, I tried to save an edit with 41.46's content from the relevant forum post, but the Spam protection filter blocked my edit with "The following text is what triggered our spam filter: support "...
Edit: typo here and there
Man, I should have saved all the text I typed before hand tho
lethal lotus
This time, I've backed up all the text required to update the changelog to 41.49, but the spam protection is prevent me from update the page.
This bugger right here.
@digital helm Do help me with this spam protecting thing so I can help to update that page, Thanks!
tulip kiln
@lethal lotus I don't think I've ever really encountered that filter. Have you tried seeing if you can post without the link to the TIS blog post? Could that possibly be the culprit somehow?
lethal lotus
Removed all the links to the forums from my changes, and I still encounter that same error
Even removing all the links in the changelog on that page to the TIS blog post still cause the filter to flag it, with the same error as my previous screen shot.
edit: typo
urban wave
Hey guys. Was told to join this server on Reddit after I started working on a few pages