mod_development

[formal edge]

This is the problem, i try that. I snatch some code, but dosnt understand why i need them. Because, i dont have anything to refer to

recipe is simple to understand, even the item file are "ok"

but the script behind it, is really confusing

[royal ridge]

the first mod I did was: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2595635821

it's very simple

if you download it and have questions I can answer them

it add a new item and recipe

[formal edge]

i will look at it, ty mate. But you dont have any more advice ?

how can i step by step, learning how to add something in particular. Menu, news function, new animations, ect ... I'm surprised there is nothing to refer too, sure i can copy and trying to understand it, but it dosnt give me all the things i can do.

[royal ridge]

There isn't many tutorials, I learnt from copying what others had done.

The game isn't finished so there isn't many tutorials

if you have specific questions it is easier to answer.

[formal edge]

I really appreciate the help and i will asking you if i have questions 🙂

[craggy notch]

Superb causes a lot of issues and its pretty buggy

[weary matrix]

and not maintained!

[rancid barn]

Not until MP anyway

So abt 1-2 months

[atomic storm]

I'm using Superb Survivors and having 0 issues with it (the ai is dumb af tho)

[weary matrix]

@atomic storm which version of zomboid?

[atomic storm]

The current IWBMS, I'm also using like 30 other mods, and only getting 5 errors. Those are from PawLow tho.

[weary matrix]

weird, I remember trying it and disabling it cause too many errors IIRC

or stuff that don't work, can't remember

[atomic storm]

It just works. Idk why tho, could be an issue with game settings or smth.

[weary matrix]

@atomic storm well you're the only person I've encountered who doesn't have problem with Superb/Subpar survivors 😅

[atomic storm]

Oh I have problems, just no errors. They seem to die alot cuz they can't find water even tho there's a water cooler in front of them.

[weary matrix]

ah I see

[abstract raptor]

can we do jogging zombies?

or do zombies not have anims for jogging ha

[fresh steppe]

Are all mods compatible with mp?

(or pretty much)

[abstract raptor]

that will vary from mod to mod

[dark solar]

superb survivors probably won’t be

[zealous wing]

Is it just me, or is that tow bar model really low poly? Pretty sure I know the exact count of tris just from counting the faces in the video. 😄

Otherwise, great work!

[weary matrix]

@fresh steppe no

hum, there was no shovel in version 40? 😮

[minor snow]

Is there a way to generate loot again for a corpse/cupboards?

[weary matrix]

@minor snow dunno but you could try this: https://quarantin.github.io/zomboid-javadoc/41.56/zombie/inventory/ItemContainer.html#setHasBeenLooted(boolean)

[minor snow]

It's workaround still need rewind time and (teleport to another chunk?)

I need a function without attributes, just call it and debug my mod

[weary matrix]

You lost me 😅

@minor snow are you talking about debug mode?

[minor snow]

I am talking about a way to debug my loot mod

[weary matrix]

@minor snow ah sorry, no clue about that, but you can change the probably of being spawned to 100% maybe?

[minor snow]

Buddy, it's workaround, I need pure solution

How I supposed to check is it spawning, if in one container it's spawning, in another not?

[hollow shadow]

I made it, not sure how you would make this one not "lowpoly" lol

[weary matrix]

@minor snow good luck then

[grizzled grove]

small edge bevel is all you could do there

[hollow shadow]

I didnt add the wheel thingies or hook thingies since those wouldnt be visibile anyways. But the only visible details are the 4 bolts on the front part

[radiant ginkgo]

It's more likely that it's not about the model, but about the texture, there is not enough dirt on it

Scuffs, dents

This is the details

[grizzled grove]

i think the grunge he has is fine. maybe too bright overall? This isn't a heavy use item that's going to get constantly banged up, it would look out of place against pz cars if it were.

[zealous wing]

Huh, so the basis of the model is just as blocky. I stand corrected there.
But yeah, I also think the color's a bit bright. It stands out, and thus is more noticeable. make it a few shades darker and scuff it up, it'd look perfect.

[hollow shadow]

@zealous wing @radiant ginkgo @grizzled grove this better?

oh also keep in mind that the final one looks like this rn. I did adjust the brightness after i saw the video

[grizzled grove]

should probably move to #modeling at this point. But that looks fine in game i think. PZ vechicles are pretty flat colored (wish they had more detail, but that's what they went with...). So I wouldn't overdo it in regards to overtly standing out against them

[zealous wing]

Yeah, that looks a lot better. That looks like the sort of thing one of our boomer dads would have laying in the bed of his truck, exposed to rain and the elements. 😄

Something you'd find in the back of a rusted pickup on the back roads of Kentucky.

[hollow shadow]

ok ill send new texture to aiteron then

[weary matrix]

@zealous wing hah, I think I got one of your subscribers on my workshop 😂

[hollow shadow]

lmao

[zealous wing]

That dude was legit suggesting child murder be in this game.
Joking or not, that is fucking disgusting.

[hollow shadow]

wait

how can you suggest child murder when theres no child in pz

[zealous wing]

IIRC, he made a post along the lines of using live children as zombie bait. I mean in-game but still.
Then I asked him what the hell was wrong with him, and he doubled down on it.

Then I deleted his posts he made and blocked him.

[hollow shadow]

tbh thats kinda insane. how can you come up with this

[zealous wing]

DJ, some people are just fucked in the head.

Like, the wiring is just not done correctly.

[hollow shadow]

i see

I also have some loose wires but not that many

[zealous wing]

Everyone's wiring's got some code violations, but when the whole place was wired by a crackhead fiending for crack, that's something else.

I blame social media, to be honest.

Someone that can suggest that with a straight face is not someone I want to interact with in any meaningful way.

[hollow shadow]

Im 18 years old and i havent found interest in social media and im extremely introverted its kind of a good and bad thing

[zealous wing]

Same. But this isn't the channel for that sort of debate.

[drifting ore]

DJ, some people are just fucked in the head.
@zealous wing

Such friendly speeches here

[zealous wing]

All right, I'll keep it PG. Even if I'm being honest and blunt.

[blissful escarp]

added
-Throwing baby to distract zombie mechanics (requires trait Psychopath)

[willow estuary]

Okay, people, chill out before this gets unpleasant. Debates go in other channels. If you have a problem DM a moderator.

[drifting ore]

added
-Throwing baby to distract zombie mechanics (requires trait Psychopath)
@blissful escarp meh, boring. Need to add profession "Psycho" and skill for it

Just joking

And also some journal to learn how to throw and skill book

new here, someone needs to add the crackhead trait, allows you to steal copper wire off from car.

[thorny ridge]

I mean, a baby monitor lure would be kinda handy now that I think about it...

[blissful escarp]

This reminds me of Madness mechanic from Starbound mod FU

[thorny ridge]

Gnome sandwich

cronch

[blissful escarp]

You know what kinda overhaul i would like to see? Zomboid but set in 2020

[atomic storm]

Don't radios/walkies attract zeds if you talk through them?

[abstract raptor]

Can anyone help me figure out why I can't dig in anyother direction?

[weary matrix]

@sour island nice 😄

@sour island btw the other day I was wondering, what does EasyConfig_Chuked for ConditionalSpeech? Is it just to create the settings for the mod?

[sour island]

yep

[ruby urchin]

lmao

[slate dagger]

lol, what is that bottom one?

[wet dune]

He's turning into a redditer

[slate dagger]

ahh ok lol

[agile mesa]

imagine modding a dragonborn character model into the game? the ones from dnd not skyrim

[mortal widget]

HHAHAHAHAHAH

[grizzled grove]

yes

[wet dune]

btw does the game take fbx animations?

[grizzled grove]

also yes

[wet dune]

how would I change zombie walk animations?

I'm guessing its in some xml?

[grizzled grove]

the game will prefer .fbx over .x files, so you can just drop your file in the folder and you're good. Only real technical requirement is that the clip name should be present in the fbx like "Bob_Idle" or whatever you're replacing

[slate dagger]

fbx animations... all greek to me

😄

[grizzled grove]

you could mess with the xml to get fancy with things, sure. We should be getting the AnimZed tool Soon(tm), which would make that part much easier

i'd actually suggest replacing Bob_Idle to get your feet wet, since it's an easy replacement and you don't have to do anything in game to see if it's working or not

[wet dune]

guess I'm making the animations myself

mixamo doen

doesn't recognize the rig

[grizzled grove]

it's a standard 3ds max skeleton, i don't know why that would be

[hot patrol]

So I changed something with my mod because I had an issue I couldn't fix but now My game freezes at the menu whenever I load up my mod.

[slate dagger]

sounds like maybe an OnGameBoot, but I don’t really know what you changed and what your mod does so hard for me to say

[hot patrol]

I was missing a comma

I swear I look over the same files for hours and can never spot it

It kills me inside

[slate dagger]

yeah

i feel you

[agile mesa]

man, i wish i knew how the fuck project zomboid modding worked, oof

[ruby urchin]

currently there are many tutorials, sometimes things are not easy, but it is a matter of reviewing other mods, the difficult is to innovate with new things that create something else from the lot

[hot patrol]

depending on what you wanna do it might not be too hard. take if from a total amature like me. Look at the game files and mods that do something similar to what you want and try to replicate it. When you hit a snag ask for help here.

like it you want to add new clothing or melee weapons

[agile mesa]

what is the main coding language ya gotta use for modding it?

second, what program for making 2-d and 3-d models?

[hot patrol]

use blender for models.

or whatever you want I guess

but blender is free

[agile mesa]

what do ya'll use for the coding side?

[hot patrol]

I just use notepad++ but i'm no coder

[slate dagger]

language? Lua is the only option

ide? Notepad++

[agile mesa]

ive been using notepad for IT class this semester, but its a half semester so idk how much thats gonan help me atm

[slate dagger]

Notepad++ has a language picker, it beats nothing

[agile mesa]

?

aight

i might mess with mods after this class is over. after the exam my next class isnt until march

messing around in it might be a fun side project

[rancid barn]

what the fuck is the bottom moodlet

[agile mesa]

resurrection?
voodoo zombie maybe?

ok, hear me out

a mod that depicts special infected by having them wear mascot uniforms

mascots of sonic characters as sprinters

shrek costume as a "brute" or fat zombie

idk fam im still learning

[slate dagger]

typically if the mod name doesn't appear and you have a mod.info file it means either one of two things: the mod.info file is in the wrong location or the id in the mod.info is the same as something else

are you storing it in <username\mods?

or <username>\Workshop?

oh, i don't take it to workshop unless i am ready to publish, but to each their own i suppose

so how is the folder structure on each?

so for Workshop you need the following;
Mod Name\Contents\mods\Mod Name\

for the mod.info

nope

that is just the folder path

do you have a poster/preview file?

i think the example is based on maps

usually you have a media folder

at least for most

what is the file structure of the <username>\Zomboid\mods location?

ah, where is mod.info?

one folder up

needs to be /Zomboid/mods/Mod Name/mod.info

oh ok sorry

i misunderstood, that is the right place

no worries, I read it wrong

hm, that should appear in the Mods section in the game then

i think the preview file is only required for workshop uploads

let me check something

hmm...

interesting, with nothing but a mod.info and a folder

the mod appears

[weary matrix]

@drifting ore I'd remove the one from Workshop, cause you never know which one has priority over the one in zomboid/mods/YourMod/

[slate dagger]

yeah

[weary matrix]

and the folder structure is a bit more complex for workshop, so less chance of doing errors that way

[slate dagger]

that is another good test

another thing is just removing everything out temporarily so you just have /Zomboid/Mod Name/mod.info

and see if that appears in the game

since that is essentially all you need

[weary matrix]

@slate dagger I've seen a weird issue the other day while helping someone, like he was using one of my mod as a template, and we checked together everything after he changed folder name, content of mod.info, etc, but it was still showing as mine in mod list 😮

and the guy was sharing his screen so I could check everything was ok

I suspect windows is doing weird stuff with disk caching

[slate dagger]

shouldn’t

[weary matrix]

I don't think so

[slate dagger]

@weary matrix Interesting

[weary matrix]

it only worked when he created a new folder, and copy pasted the files inside, so weird

[slate dagger]

that is very odd

i have never seen that

[weary matrix]

me neither

[slate dagger]

but I know the bare minimum now

is just a folder and mod.info

hm, may have to do like co suggested, make a new folder

[weary matrix]

Please use a real name, it's really confusing otherwise when you're talking about it 😂

[slate dagger]

cause if you have the bare minimum you should see it

you are closing and reopening PZ right?

[weary matrix]

oh, good question, hehe

@slate dagger about that I made an empty mod with no code or anything just to activate/deactivate a mod safely so that Lua gets reloaded 😂

[slate dagger]

lol, that is a good idea actually

[weary matrix]

so I don't have to quit the game

works like a charm

either call it ZZZSomething or AAASomething depending on if you want to have it on top or bottom of the list

[slate dagger]

and that is after exiting PZ and starting backup?

hm, new folder I think then

[weary matrix]

Could you share a screenshot to show us the structure in file explorer?

[slate dagger]

oh, scrap url

common?

that is the steam folder

[weary matrix]

@drifting ore remove the url part as suggested by FireDragoon

[slate dagger]

you use your user folder

it’s your user folder

where you have Windows installed

[weary matrix]

don't touch steam files! 😂

[slate dagger]

C:\Users\yourusername

good question

never noticed that before

[weary matrix]

well, where would the game find the files so it can copy them in your userdata folder otherwise? 😛

[slate dagger]

cool 😎

😦

errors?

ah, yeah may have to check to see if any errors occurred but I don’t know a lot about animation/modeling

more of a coder

not sure on models

i know clothing needs one

[weary matrix]

Don't know either but I'm pretty sure you have to reference the model in different places

[agile mesa]

question
if ya had to show an example, how is the coding side of modding the game? what it look like?

[weary matrix]

@agile mesa looks like this: https://github.com/quarantin/zomboid-out-the-window/tree/main/media/lua/client/OutTheWindow

I don't really know but that'd really seem too easy 😅

[agile mesa]

was thinking like, a screenshot for an example but aight

[weary matrix]

@drifting ore check other simple mods that add models

[agile mesa]

are all 3 .lua files needed for 1 mod?

[weary matrix]

@agile mesa you could have all your code in one file if you like

just has to be either in lua/client, or lua/shared, or lua/server depending what you want to do

[agile mesa]

nah its fine, im assuming you have stuff in the files to call between them

man, it gonna be funky to tryand do this in Notepad, lmao

[viral spire]

How feasible is a SCP-001 mod?

Since I'm a sucker for apocalyptic stuff, When Day Breaks.

[agile mesa]

maybe the "Flesh That Hates" scp would be good? the number itself for it escapes me atm

the deal with that one is that masses of sentient flesh showed up in a small village in russia, and they are loosely mimicking people and animals around them, and fusing to buildings, sometimes making whole ones from just the flesh

idk?

aight

[viral spire]

Zombies Fear The Sun

Zombies go inside at 6 AM, come out at 7 PM.

[agile mesa]

ah, like dying light kinda

[grizzled grove]

apparently F11 will reload lua if you're in debug. At least i think it was F11

[viral spire]

It's pretty good, but still needs some work as some zombies completely ignore the mod and will act normally.

[late hound]

you are correct

[weary matrix]

@grizzled grove it is F11 indeed, but I'm always having issues with the reload from debugger, like either reloading not occurring, or old code and new code running at same time etc

depending on the kind of error you trigger I guess

@grizzled grove for example the other day, Aiteron shared some code with me, but it was not working until I quit the current game and reload Lua from main menu

[grizzled grove]

i'd imagine there's cases like that, sure

[weary matrix]

@grizzled grove btw not finished yet, but it starts looking good about injecting old symbols when decompiling new release 😄

[fierce cipher]

does anyone know if the hunting mod is compatible with britas?

[drifting ore]

does anyone know if the hunting mod is compatible with britas?
@fierce cipher no

Only vanilla guns

[devout flint]

Hunting rabbits with gatling

[fierce cipher]

please let me do this

[devout flint]

😂

[royal ridge]

how do you interact with a java stack with lua for zomboid?

[weary matrix]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding:Lua_Events
https://quarantin.github.io/zomboid-javadoc/41.56/

[royal ridge]

they work the same as lists

lua lists

[weary matrix]

oh you really mean the Stack class from Java, sorry

@royal ridge you can do push() to add a value on the stack, pop() to remove a value, peek() to get the value at top of stack, and empty() to check it's empty

<https://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/util/Stack.html

@royal ridge may I ask why you need to interact with a Stack object?

[royal ridge]

java.util.Stack<IsoMovingObject> getSpottedList() '

in iso.player

[weary matrix]

ah I see

@royal ridge btw a java Stack is a subclass of Vector, so you should have also access to all the methods from the Vector class

[royal ridge]

I only need to pull the top object out, which I was able to do in lua, I thought it might of be different to an array but works the same wya

[weary matrix]

yeah it does, cause it's a subclass of vector, which itself is a subclass of AbstractList

[royal ridge]

that's handy to know

thx

[weary matrix]

@royal ridge are you trying to detect zombies that spotted you?

this one been useful to me:

function canSee(zombie, player)

    if not zombie:CanSee(player) then
        return false
    end

    local visionCone = player:isSneaking() and 0.6 or 0.9

    return zombie:getDotWithForwardDirection(player:getX(), player:getY()) + visionCone >= 1
end

thx to Aiteron 😄

[royal ridge]

oh that looks good, I'll check it out

where are you pass "zombie" from?

[weary matrix]

@royal ridge from OnZombieUpdate Lua event

[royal ridge]

thx

Events.OnZombieUpdate.Add(canSee) ?

[weary matrix]

@royal ridge nope, the handler for OnZombieUpdate only gives you a zombie as parameter

you'll have to wrap the call with another function like:
function onZombieUpdate(zombie)
if canSee(zombie, getPlayer) then
-- your code
end

[royal ridge]

ah

I can't get it to work, is this correct?

`function canSee(zombie, player)
if not zombie:CanSee(player) then
return false
end
local visionCone = player:isSneaking() and 0.6 or 0.9
return zombie:getDotWithForwardDirection(player:getX(), player:getY()) + visionCone >= 1
end

function onZombieUpdate(zombie)
player = getPlayer()
if canSee(zombie, player) then
print("I CAN SEE YOU")
end
end`

[coarse silo]

Anyone got a list of amazing mods?

[nimble spoke]

player = getPlayer() is incomplete there

it won't return a valid player and is probably throwing an error

[fair frost]

Hi there
recently i got an idea of trying to maybe add custom clothing to some of my car mods
and since it would be my first time trying to add/make custom clothing
does anyone have any practical advices on how to do it ?, make'em spawn in containers and on zombies
etc

[ruby urchin]

in #modeling on pinned messages you have some guides

[fair frost]

too bad doesn't even explain how to make em spawn in game

• it only talks about clothing from scratch

[hot patrol]

@fair frost use that as a starting point to understand things a bit and then look at another mod that is maybe similar to what you wanna do and replicate it a bit

That's pretty much what I did outside of asking a lot of questions here

I found this one pretty helpful https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/37647-the-one-stop-shop-for-3d-modeling-from-blender-to-zomboid/

There are other guides on the forum as well

[torpid ocean]

anyone know how to get into the depth buffer?

[grizzled grove]

it's never occurred to me, but i've never seen mention of it when diving through the source.

[torpid ocean]

really? it's an OpenGL feature and I'm trying to get my Reshade shaders to work with it

[grizzled grove]

i mean, i've never gone looking for it either. I assume they have one somewhere for comping the 3d elements against each other or the 2d world

try starting with the fog and environment shaders and see if anything pops out at you. but idk if that would help with reshader

[torpid ocean]

yea reshade just has this, if it makes any sense

this is the best I've gotten but it only has the car I'm sitting in, and it only takes up half the screen

it does identify the player's normal maps and the car's but nothing more

[grizzled grove]

the world itself is flat, afaik all the sprites are rendered via sorting

[torpid ocean]

ah ok gotcha

[weary matrix]

@royal ridge this is correct but you also have to register your function like: Events.OnZombieUpdate.Add(onZombieUpdate)

sorry I went to sleep in the meantime 😅

I really have to fix that sleep pattern, went to bed at 4PM to wake up at 11PM 😂

[weary matrix]

Flat earth theory? 😂

[royal ridge]

I got it working thanks 🙂

[weary matrix]

great 👍

[royal ridge]

thanks, it might of been that and not registering the function, it is all working now 🙂

[weary matrix]

Why would it be incomplete, not return a valid player and throw an error?

[nimble spoke]

I don't remember actually, I guess in single player it always returns the only possible player? I looked and thought that line was correct somehow

[ruby urchin]

@tame mulch finally finished my own

the snippet that I used for transition

if enableWiggle then
    if wiggleBidirectional then
        wiggle = wiggle - 13 -- Velocidad de transición
        wiggleX = wiggle * math.sin(0.5)
        if wiggle <= -30 then -- Distancia de desplazamiento default: 30
            wiggleBidirectional = false
            wiggleDegradation = wiggleDegradation + 1
            --print("Right")
        end
    else 
        wiggle = wiggle + 13 -- Velocidad de transición
        wiggleX = wiggle * math.sin(0.5)
        if wiggle >= 30 then -- Distancia de desplazamiento default: 30
            wiggleBidirectional = true
            wiggleDegradation = wiggleDegradation + 1
            --print("Left")
        end
    end
end

if wiggleDegradation == 2 then
    enableWiggle = false
                
    if wiggle <= 2 and wiggle >= -2 then
        wiggleX = 0
        wiggleDegradation = 0
    elseif wiggle < 0 then
        wiggle = wiggle + 5
        wiggleX = wiggle * math.sin(0.5)
    elseif wiggle > 0 then
        wiggle = wiggle - 5
        wiggleX = wiggle * math.sin(0.5)
    end
end

[grizzled grove]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wiggle-shaq-twerking-shimmy-gif-9035932

[balmy prism]

what are the extra moodles there? What do they mean? They look like they're from Crossed or something.

[late hound]

Looks sick!

[ruby urchin]

A man of culture, that is a good comic. This is just a custom moodles, I just replicate what Aiteron#4926 posted a few days ago

[balmy prism]

Heyyy thanks. I think they're pretty good comics too.
What did Aiteron post?

[ruby urchin]

this #mod_development message

[balmy prism]

I see I see. So what do your custom moodles mean?

[ruby urchin]

whatever you want, you define that, how I see it, it's just so as not to lose the immersion of the game

sorry, mb

I misunderstood

[balmy prism]

ah ok. I gotchu.

[ruby urchin]

That is just a example icon, literally I get a default moodle and I drawed on it lol

[weary matrix]

@nimble spoke oh you mean it would not work for MP? That I don't know, haven't written MP mods so far

[balmy prism]

Alrighty. I saw that and got excited lmao. I've been hoping someone makes a Crossed mod for PZ at some point.

[nimble spoke]

yeah, there are lots of mods around that take the quick route to get the player in a way that only works in single player because it is always player 0

[balmy prism]

ohhhh

that makes so much sense

fortunately that should be a quick fix for most mods then

[weary matrix]

@balmy prism might be complicated if you want to retrieve a player from let's say OnZombieUpdate, not sure

in some cases you probably need a totally different logic which might not be a quick fix

[balmy prism]

oh fair enough. I just assumed for most mods it would be an easy fix. Guess that's what I get for assuming.

[weary matrix]

@ruby urchin does your camouflage mod works with MP?

[nimble spoke]

I made some tests for a camouflage that could possibly work in MP..... and my result was not satisfactory, but Iit was a short test anyway. I'm curious to see what other modders are trying to achieve the effect

[ruby urchin]

the way I did, it should, because I only modify properties of the zed entity IsoZombie (assuming the entity is redirected to the clients of each player)

[nimble spoke]

which property is it?

[ruby urchin]

setUseless()

[nimble spoke]

ohhh right. I didn't want to use that one as the zed won't respond to any sounds or players around it

not ideal for MP in theory

perfect for SP though

[ruby urchin]

You need encode it, that why I use setUseless, it's very manageable and it's not sooooo involved with other functions

[weary matrix]

@ruby urchin so I suppose your mod does not manage stuff like if the player is shoving off a zombie while camouflaged, the zombie should attack?

[nimble spoke]

We will have to wait for the real test to see how they will behave. I'm really curious to see what happens

[ruby urchin]

You can see the code, if you are 1.3 units close, it will turn into a normal zombie so to speak, until it goes out of radius detection

[weary matrix]

@ruby urchin mmm ok so what if a zombie sees a player running from more than 1.3 units?

or making noise

[ruby urchin]

yeah, that already added, literally, the radius of detection doesn't exist if player is isRunning() or isSprinting()

they will behave like normal zombies

[weary matrix]

you mean like useless zombies? 😅

[ruby urchin]

Yeah

[nimble spoke]

a useless zombie doesn't react to anything, doesn't even move around. But he's turning it on/off

[weary matrix]

unless you're making it do react to those events and remove the useless flag accordingly 😛

[nimble spoke]

some things get weird when you do that. For example if the zombie already has a target and is moving towards it, making it useless won't stop it, but when it reaches its target it will do nothing

[ruby urchin]

yeah, that's the problem, I have a idea to solve when zombies are idles, but i need work in others things first jeje

[weary matrix]

@nimble spoke assuming you're wearing the zombie camouflage, I suppose the zombie won't have a target, or at least not your character?

in which case it's fine I think?

[nimble spoke]

if you're faking the reaction to events.... have you seen the size of spotting and hearing functions? dozens of variables involved. If you remade those in LUA, well.... props to your patience lol

[ruby urchin]

yeah, no target = walk to last known target

[weary matrix]

@nimble spoke I don't mean "fake" reaction, but rather like detecting if the zombie should see/hear you, and call setUseless(false) accordingly. Wouldn't that work?

[nimble spoke]

Exactly what I mean, but those checks, the real checks in java, don't work for a useless zombie

[weary matrix]

@nimble spoke but you can hook OnZombieUpdate and check if the zombie should see you?

not sure about noise yet, but for seeing I have a way at least, it seems to be working

[nimble spoke]

it will always return false for a useless zombie, that's the whole point

[weary matrix]

@nimble spoke no my Lua function returns true if the zombie should see you, even if the zombie is useless

[nimble spoke]

that's why I said, if you remade the check in lua, with all the variables, then well done, the check is very complex. I settled for an extremely simplified check in my mod

[weary matrix]

well it's just a 3 lines function 😅

or maybe 4 if you count the 'end' statement

[nimble spoke]

so it is either unfair for the player, or for the zombie, haha

[weary matrix]

why unfair?

[nimble spoke]

I mean, not very close to the real chances a player has as most variables involved are ignored

[weary matrix]

which variables do you mean?

like if the player is sneaking? This one I do handle

[nimble spoke]

uhhh..... basically everything you can think of. The spot check considers light, fog, rain, objects blocking view, not to mention all the player variables you could use

[weary matrix]

also handling objects blocking view, but not light, fog and rain I have to admit

[nimble spoke]

It literally uses dozens of variables, I'm not joking. I've checked it

[weary matrix]

@nimble spoke are you making a camouflage mod too?

[nimble spoke]

I just made a quick test to see how it would go. Trying something that wouldn't require me to remake those checks or anything like that

my approach to making mods is to usually test first if it can be done at all, how it can be done, how good the result would be, before deciding "I'm making that mod"

[weary matrix]

sure

[nimble spoke]

and in this case my test didn't go far enough to make conclusions

[royal ridge]

is there a way to play a sound in lua?

[weary matrix]

@nimble spoke I think it's fine to just ignore light, fog and rain, cause you already have an advantage with the camouflage, it would just making it less effective when player is doing something that should get him detected

hearing might be a bit more involved that seeing though I agree

@ruby urchin I started a camouflage mod too before you published yours, do you mind or would you prefer to make it a common project?

[ruby urchin]

lmao don't ask, you just do it, it's always better when there's many choice

[weary matrix]

ok

[low crest]

haha why not ask? i'd say do ask... and more

its great to have input from the comunity

and release things like a team with whole mods that include many works

its easier to download, results are better and more people will see your work

[ruby urchin]

I couldn't block the zeds vision, I'm really interested in how you will do it, let me know when you release it

[weary matrix]

@ruby urchin sure

[weary matrix]

@ruby urchin but that's why I proposed you to work on a common mod, like most of what you did is really good, I just want to improve the zombie behaviors. So if we end up ripping each other stuff, better to make it a common project? Unless you really don't mind I use your mod as a base, like reusing your models etc

[royal scroll]

What is the best mods for 41? Like what is the MOST needed when playing that brings the best experience for yourself

[weary matrix]

@royal scroll it all depends on what you expect from a zombie apocalypse game 😅

@royal scroll I'm not using much mods anyway, only the following mods are enabled for most of my games:

• Conditional Speech (from Chuck)
• Sandbox+ (from derLoko)
• Just throw them out the window (from me)
• Quick Item Action (also from me)

[royal scroll]

Thanks for your input! I’ll try these mods out👍

[low crest]

DAAAMN did you "Just throw them out the window"'??? how does it feel to get a Nurse feature?

[ruby urchin]

Honestly I don't like work with a team except if was for big project, which will take time and complexity. You can take what you want, as long as you give the respective credits

[weary matrix]

@ruby urchin Nice! About the credits, is it ok if I mention my mod was adapted from yours in the workshop description and github README.md? Or what would suit you?

[royal ridge]

should this be able to play a sound? or do I require more?
getSoundManager():playSound("bigExplosion")

[ruby urchin]

Where you want, average user dont care those things, only put where you would think a modders would notice it if they were interested

[weary matrix]

@royal ridge I don't know much about sound handling but that looks good, assuming your bigExplosion sound has been registered correctly to the game (Don't know how to register it though)

[royal ridge]

It's from the base game, but it didnt work

[weary matrix]

@ruby urchin OK then. Thanks! 🙂

[ruby urchin]

Tell me if you need them, In the next update I will remove them

[weary matrix]

@royal ridge are you getting an error in console.txt?

@ruby urchin you mean the psd files?

oh blender files maybe?

[ruby urchin]

all you see it, idk, you choose

[weary matrix]

@low crest it feels really good! 😅

[low crest]

it was a great video

[weary matrix]

indeed, and it came up at the right time when my "One week extra visibility" was over on Steam, so still had plenty of new subscribers 😄

[royal ridge]

`STACK TRACE

function: ZombieSpeak -- file: SanityMenu.lua line # 29
function: worldobjects -- file: SanityMenu.lua line # 14
function: onMouseUp -- file: ISContextMenu.lua line # 90

LOG : General , 1638420789369> Object tried to call nil in ZombieSpeak
LOG : General , 1638420789456> creating new sourcewindow: C:/Users/tests/Zomboid/Workshop/sanity/Contents/mods/sanitymod/media/lua/client/SanityMenu.lua
ERROR: General , 1638420792063> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.RuntimeException: Object tried to call nil in ZombieSpeak at KahluaUtil.fail line:82.
ERROR: General , 1638420792063> DebugLogStream.printException> Stack trace:
java.lang.RuntimeException: Object tried to call nil in ZombieSpeak
at se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaUtil.fail(KahluaUtil.java:82)
at se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.luaMainloop(KahluaThread.java:971)
at se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.call(KahluaThread.java:163)
at se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.pcall(KahluaThread.java:1980)
at se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.pcallBoolean(KahluaThread.java:1924)
at se.krka.kahlua.integration.LuaCaller.protectedCallBoolean(LuaCaller.java:104)
at zombie.ui.UIElement.onMouseUp(UIElement.java:1228)
at zombie.ui.UIManager.update(UIManager.java:808)
at zombie.GameWindow.logic(GameWindow.java:249)
at zombie.core.profiling.AbstractPerformanceProfileProbe.invokeAndMeasure(AbstractPerformanceProfileProbe.java:71)
at zombie.GameWindow.frameStep(GameWindow.java:726)
at zombie.GameWindow.run_ez(GameWindow.java:642)
at zombie.GameWindow.mainThread(GameWindow.java:471)
at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)`

[weary matrix]

@ruby urchin I don't have plans to edit the models, but I'll just ask you if I change my mind, ok? 😅

[royal ridge]

It can find the soundManager though

[low crest]

Do you guys know of any tutorials on how to get custom menus (specifically the radial menu) and interactions to work? me and my friend are having some issues with it

[ruby urchin]

np

[royal ridge]

line 29 is
getSoundManager():playSound("bigExplosion")

[weary matrix]

@royal ridge try PlaySound with upper case P

[royal ridge]

ERROR: General , 1638420994423> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.RuntimeException: No implementation found at MultiLuaJavaInvoker.call line:112. ERROR: General , 1638420994423> DebugLogStream.printException> Stack trace: java.lang.RuntimeException: No implementation found at se.krka.kahlua.integration.expose.MultiLuaJavaInvoker.call(MultiLuaJavaInvoker.java:112) at se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.callJava(KahluaThread.java:182) at se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.luaMainloop(KahluaThread.java:1007) at se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.call(KahluaThread.java:163) at se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.pcall(KahluaThread.java:1980) at se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.pcallBoolean(KahluaThread.java:1924) at se.krka.kahlua.integration.LuaCaller.protectedCallBoolean(LuaCaller.java:104) at zombie.ui.UIElement.onMouseUp(UIElement.java:1228) at zombie.ui.UIManager.update(UIManager.java:808) at zombie.GameWindow.logic(GameWindow.java:249) at zombie.core.profiling.AbstractPerformanceProfileProbe.invokeAndMeasure(AbstractPerformanceProfileProbe.java:71) at zombie.GameWindow.frameStep(GameWindow.java:726) at zombie.GameWindow.run_ez(GameWindow.java:642) at zombie.GameWindow.mainThread(GameWindow.java:471) at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

with upper case P

I don't think it can find "bigExplosion"

[weary matrix]

mmm let me check something

@royal ridge do you have the coordinates of the IsoGridSquare where you want the sound to be coming from?

[royal ridge]

yes

[weary matrix]

@royal ridge so just try this: getSquare(x, y):playSound("your sound")

[royal ridge]

that worked

thanks you

[weary matrix]

awesome! 😄

[royal ridge]

I am making a sanity mod, so as you lose grip on reality you start hearing weird sounds, and you windows banging, doors, random zombie noises

and I am looking at some visual effects too

[weary matrix]

oh man that'd be great!

guess I'd be using it

@nimble spoke @ruby urchin would you like to try my decompiler project for Java code? It's using the decompiler from IntelliJ but also renames all the variables that have shitty names like var1, var2, var3 etc to something more meaningful based on the type of the variable, so for example IsoPlayer var1 becomes IsoPlayer player etc

also, I'm not done with that part yet, but I should figure out a way to import symbols from version 38.30 of the game, so that I could use them for decompiling newer releases

[low crest]

have you seen the take "Barotrauma" has on that mechanic?

[royal ridge]

no

[low crest]

wait that didn't show the hallucinations i think

[weary matrix]

@royal ridge do you plan to add some kind of hallucinations too? Like you see a zombie but it's not really there? 😂

[royal ridge]

I am going to try

[weary matrix]

nice!

[low crest]

yeah that's what i meant basically

i cant find a short video on it

at the latter stages it gets really insane with distortion and intermittent/permanent hallucinations at all times

[royal ridge]

probably have it spawn, set it to useless

and when you get close it disappears

[weary matrix]

problem with useless is the zombie won't come to you

[low crest]

or if you're really gone it could even hurt you and dissapear

hahaha

[drowsy needle]

Erm... Dunno where to ask this, but I've installed a bunch of mods, and... I can no longer seem to climb through windows on my old save.

More specifically, the one my character's s tanding right in front of.

[weary matrix]

@royal ridge I thinking maybe like create hallucinations when there's no zombie around and just set the character to god mod for the time of the hallucination

[drowsy needle]

See?

[royal ridge]

that could work too

god mode will heal you though

[low crest]

hmm doesn't sound very clean

[royal ridge]

I will mess around with it anyway

[weary matrix]

had no clue about god mod healing you

@royal ridge also would be nice if you could trigger some hallucination when you open a door, or when you look through a window

with the scare sound

[royal ridge]

ya

scare sound would be good haha

[weary matrix]

@royal ridge well at least now you know how to play sounds 😅

[low crest]

vine boom sound??

[weary matrix]

btw zombies and players also have a playSound() method

@royal ridge I found this sound in zomboid sound folder which sounds like insane stuff: feedback.ogg

also all the sounds whose filename starts with insane

[royal ridge]

I have been going through them the insane whispers are crazy too lol

[weary matrix]

hehe nice

@royal ridge I can't seem to find the jumpscare sound though 😦

@royal ridge OK haven't found the sound itself, but I think this is how it can be triggered:

this.getEmitter().playSoundImpl("ZombieSurprisedPlayer", (IsoObject)null);```

this refers to an IsoPlayer instance here

[royal ridge]

teh sound is ZombieSurprisedPlayer

just tested it

you can play it fro mthat

[weary matrix]

awesome 😄

@royal ridge man, now I'm becoming impatient that you release your mod 😂

[royal ridge]

make it happen randomly when you open doors

if your insanity is high enough

[weary matrix]

@royal ridge just add a zombie on the other side of the door, trigger the jump-scare sound, and make the zombie disappear or something 😂

[royal ridge]

ye

if you spawn it tho, the sound happens automatically

[weary matrix]

ah ok

[royal ridge]

I am messing around with spawning zomboids now

[weary matrix]

@royal ridge also what about having a chance of this happening if your character is not insane?

of course having the character insane would still make the chance higher

[royal ridge]

probably almost 0, if you keep your sanity up

[weary matrix]

I mean, when you live in a zombie apocalypse, you become insane sort of 😂

[royal ridge]

its going to be a ticking meter

that goes up over time

it will connected to stress, mood and panic etc

you can lower it by watching tv, reading books, resting in a safe area

etc

eating good food

killing zombies won't lower either

because you are like killing people

[weary matrix]

@royal ridge Just to let you know I'd really enjoy it if it was adding such events even if your insanity level is OK

or at least some way to configure it in settings

[royal ridge]

yeah, I might do a sandbox setting called thershold

and you can set it to what you when you want events to start

[weary matrix]

I would love that ❤️

[royal ridge]

so it could be set to 0, and you would rarely get events

but you would get them

[weary matrix]

@royal ridge so, how much time I have to wait before you release your mod? 😂

[royal ridge]

no idea

only just started this one lol

[weary matrix]

@royal ridge are you using github or something?

[royal ridge]

not yet, but I will set up tonight

[weary matrix]

cool, let me know if you need help

[royal ridge]

https://github.com/radx5Blue

is my current github

my solar array mod is on there

[weary matrix]

ah ok you already use github, just not for this mod yet 😅

[royal ridge]

I only just started it today, so haven't had a chance yet

[weary matrix]

heh, sure no worries 😅

@royal ridge also if you want to discuss things about the mod, you know where to find me 😉

[royal ridge]

ya I will let you know

[blissful meteor]

Is there anyone experienced in lua that could help me out, i need to make it so a certain line of lua only runs if another mod is enabled? Is it possible to do and how?

i basically need to make it so something only spawns if there is a certain map enabled

[brittle jewel]

getActivatedMods():contains("ModID")

You'll just update 'ModID' to the ID shown on the main menu under mods (above 'Location').

[zealous glade]

Search google by keyword "wordzed", the official thread is a full tutorial.

[austere pecan]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2670674997

This is a very useful mod

[drifting ore]

How do i make scenarios

[royal ridge]

check out this folder in your zomboid folder

ProjectZomboid\media\lua\client\LastStand

it has different scenarios

in there you can copy and mess around with

[drifting ore]

Ok thx

[weary matrix]

cool, I managed to automate the generation of javadoc alongside my decompiler tool 😄

so now my online javadoc also has the symbols I'm adding 😄

For example

[drifting ore]

Fallout conversion mod when

Of all games

[slate dagger]

cool, that is very helpful!

[whole solar]

а

[weary matrix]

@slate dagger I enabled google crawling for my javadoc pages, so it should be available in google results in a few hours/days

[bleak current]

hi, I know quite a bit of java and my question is: can I make mods with it without any problems ??? cuz I saw that many forums and guides say to use mainly Lua due to official api support

[weary matrix]

@bleak current no

mods are written in Lua

[slate dagger]

@weary matrix thank you kind sir!

[weary matrix]

you're welcome!

@slate dagger oh and btw new beautiful-java available, the fixing of symbols should be way faster now

[slate dagger]

oh awesome

let me do a git pull

[sick yew]

https://youtu.be/N7FGPe8b71M

The character here has a bosnian war beret

Anyone know which mod this is?

[ruby urchin]

it's not from a mod

[fair frost]

i am almost certain this is vanilla army berret

[ruby urchin]

the item is called Hat_BeretArmy

[sick yew]

Tf is a bosnian army beret doing in the us in 1993?

[fair frost]

i think it was meant to replicate this

but still feels off

[bleak current]

😦

[weary matrix]

@bleak current but if you know Java it shouldn't be too hard for you to learn another language like Lua

[bleak current]

hymmm, yeah its just that I tried to learn lua to get with other mods for other games

and its just not my type for some reason

[weary matrix]

same logic, different syntax

@slate dagger oh and now you can do ./bin/update to update the tool 😄

[sick yew]

Well it failed and it looks very similiar to our army cap

[brittle jewel]

It looks pretty close to the 73rd infantry brigade, but they disbanded in 1977. Also, it's obviously missing the sword. It does look closer to the Bosnian one.

[cerulean yew]

Guys, is there the chance to convert and adapt an old graphic weapon file (2018 build), with the actual one? Idk, a program?

i'm talking about weapon's mods

This is one of the old gun models that i'd like to see in the hands of my character

[weary matrix]

@cerulean yew probably, but that would be a question better asked in #modeling

[cerulean yew]

oh.. thanks a lot! Idk it.... sorry

[drifting ore]

Is it bad

If I will take a mod from workshop

And figure out how it works, maybe copy few things

[weary matrix]

@drifting ore if in doubt, just ask the mod author?

[drifting ore]

Isn't it dmca violation

[weary matrix]

well I don't know much about DMCA, but it''s not like you're going to earn money with your mod

[ruby urchin]

Workshop should work same like github repositories, I think if you copy 5 or 6 lines of code, you not shouldn't be problems, but if it something more complex, the author can send a report and steam moderators determine if it is theft of intellectual rights

but in reality there are various ways to avoid it, you just have to obfuscate

[willow estuary]

Mods can, and have, been removed from the workshop for being naughty in that regard.

A secondary issue is cases where people copy code from another mod, and, on account of keeping the same function and variable names, break the mod that they took the code from when used at the same time as it.

[weary matrix]

@willow estuary well in that case it means the initial mod was not properly coded? 😅

[cerulean yew]

I don't really understand what you're talking about... but if you're blaming me for copyright or similar, you're very much mistaken. I need a couple of graphics to use in my game, SINGLEPLAYER, not to play co-op. Also because I only play singleplayer

an old assault rifle, which would be a primitive AK47 manually modified by the character... I was very impressed by the graphics which are a bit old, but nice, and I would like to have it for my singleplayer game

Unfortunately I'm nostalgic for the old firearms graphics... starting with one of TommyStick's early mods. The problem is that then these people get annoyed with updating the files.... just to clarify, don't think bad

[fair frost]

West Point PD part is coming nicely to an end

[fair frost]

Oh and also FBI Police
Why did i made them ?
I guess because i was bored and i really like their old livery

[zealous wing]

Fortunate Son intensifies

[supple gate]

I'm trying to make an override recipe for the "gather gunpowder" vanilla recipe. Everything works except for one part: Result:GunPowder=1 is giving me full a gunpowder bottle instead of the 1/10 of a bottle that I expected. When used as the ingredient for another recipe, Gunpowder=2 takes 2/10 of the bottle to yield the crafting result (ammo in this case). The Used delta for gunpowder in the vanilla files is 0.1 and I have not overwritten it. Anyone know what I am doing wrong?

[last ferry]

anyone know of a mod that stops radios from turning off in your invo

because it makes no sense that a radio i put back in my invo auto turns off

[drifting ore]

I've had an idea floating around for a while now but I'm not sure if it's possible in zomboid.

Would it be possible to make it so when a player made wall has its health lowered to the health of a lower level wall it will get replaced by that level of wall?
So if a level 3 wall looses 50 hp it gets replaced a level 2 wall, and 50 more it turns into a level 1.

This would be a very handy and immersive way of showing how much health a wall has at a glance without using a mod where you have to manually check every single one.

If there is a memory leak issue could that be mended by just checking updating the wall on chunk load and/or when a wall enters a specific radius of the player?

[blazing radish]

👀

[south belfry]

anyone knows a good Vehicle mods?

[dark solar]

Filibuster Rhyme's car mods are really good

[ruby urchin]

lmao for some reason, I need restart two time the game to update my code

[formal torrent]

Hey fellas, I am a fan of project zomboid and I want to try modding with it. I have an idea for adding a allready in game item to all zombies. how would i go about that?

also where do i start? idont see it in pined

nvm found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6tZujOPnDw&list=PLwV27NP3RkJl27tveCa9EMMvAdjmGXZsf&index=4

[blazing radish]

I hope everybody it's doing well!

[abstract raptor]

Heya

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2197666984

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I have a bunch of voice acting and this mod is broken

Anyone wanna help me make it functional again?

Maybe with one of those fancy wheel interfaces

[exotic ember]

Ok so I have a modding/Lua question if anyone can give insight to?

I have lots of mods installed, and I use cheat menu to quickly bounce around trying different ones out to make sure they work.

Ive noticed if I keep restarting new games, eventually I can get either errors popping up, or repetitive freeze frames, and eventual crash.

Because its much quicker to start a new game, after youve already loaded/started a new game (as opposed to starting/loading a game when you first boot up PZ).

Could these errors just be limited to something thats happening through repeatedly jumping in and out of saves?

Ie the mods could be quite stable and compatible with one another, its just repeatedly jumping back and forth from save to main menu is creating other errors.

[low crest]

dang that sounds like a true performance ghoul is hiding in there

[exotic ember]

@low crest 🥴

[exotic ember]

yea struggling to work out how I can refine the problem down further (without painstakingly trying out loads of variations of mods of course)

[low crest]

probably some conflicting code with 2 (or more 😖 ) mods... at the very least i think you'll need to do that...

[exotic ember]

daaam

[low crest]

or idk... any ideas?

[exotic ember]

Yea only noticed it when I started bouncing around loads using teleport on cheat menu

that instigates the errors, and the freeze framing

[low crest]

try to think if there is any mod that works like that...

adding stuff as you make new saves

[exotic ember]

giving those kind of powers? I dunno, im assuming its more to do with whatever is spawning in en masse when i suddenly jump to a new area

but thats just me guessing

[exotic ember]

oh ok

hmm

this is the list anyway

only added a couple newuns since then, and this problem was happening before they were added on

[low crest]

also try and get the debug code from the errors that pop up

that will probably be the quicker solution

[exotic ember]

do I have to be in debug mode then to do that?

[low crest]

i think... im new to modding this game lol

[exotic ember]

ah ok

yea tbh i dunno why Ive been putting it off tbh, from what ive seen itd be better than using the cheat menu

[low crest]

good luck

[exotic ember]

oh

is this what you mean?

@low crest

Any windows or options I should explore first to diagnose the problem, cant really see anything immediately recognisable to any of the mods Ive got in the lines of code I see

At a glance anyway

Oh wait is it Aquastar Yachts that is bugging out here?

[weary matrix]

@low crest check console.txt

oh sorry I meant @exotic ember

I just woke up 😅

[exotic ember]

k will give it another try

Just encountered same error several times so easily replicable

[weary matrix]

@exotic ember press f11 once or twice to be sure the error is flushed properly to console.txt

[exotic ember]

oh so how do I get to console.txt from this error log sorry? :S

[exotic ember]

back on that same screen as the screenshot

press f11 couple times on this screen and then?

[weary matrix]

the console.txt is in your zomboid folder, alongside your saved games

[marsh beacon]

Actually I think this is a vanilla bug and the devs are aware of it

[weary matrix]

@marsh beacon hopefully this one should get fixed in next release, see
https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/41757-memory-leak-in-zomboid-game-engine/

I reported it a few weeks ago

[exotic ember]

oh ok

[marsh beacon]

Yes!! That your post is the one I saw haha

[weary matrix]

hehe

[exotic ember]

do you mean this

[weary matrix]

@exotic ember well this the start of the console.txt, but you should rather look at the end for errors

like "Stack Trace" etc

[exotic ember]

Hmmm, at first glance I can see ALOT of errors related to mods over "missing translations"

So im assuming that literally means language seeing as it lists strings

---

LOG : General , 1638530451804> - EHE: ERR: IsoPlayers can't add; IsoPlayer x/y less than 1:

This maybe? Cant see anything on stack trace

although was mentioned in that screenshot

[exotic ember]

I just tried removing all mods and teleporting about

Not getting the same error :S

[royal ridge]

If you teleport around with immesive solar arrays, it will cause problems with the mod

[low crest]

hmm do you guys think it could be feasible to script in a c based language and convert to lua?

or is it flat out not worth it?

[royal ridge]

I wouldn't think so

probably not worth it either

lua is more of scripting language

[low crest]

i found this https://github.com/Oberon00/apollo and i think some people use it for games

its just that lua syntax is giving me an aneurysm

https://tenor.com/view/fart-smoke-gas-brain-fan-gif-16353386

[exotic ember]

as in with the mod installed or with solar arrays in your inventory?

never tried teleporting around with solar arrays in inventory

[royal ridge]

if you have placed a battery bank and teleport away from it or too it, it can cause issues

you need to walk about 60 squares away and then teleport

[exotic ember]

ah ok, well not tried that and wont be using tele when doing a proper playthrough

[royal ridge]

ok

[exotic ember]

from that debug log, looks like errors with teleport have been related to aquatsar yachts

Or better lockpicking

[tardy bear]

Just curious. Has anyone attempted to mod earthen slopes to act like stairs, so you can actually walk up the hills at the railyard, etc?

[tacit pelican]

How hard is it to make a custom map?

I'm debating about making one!

[sharp crystal]

@ruby urchin hello. I really like your mod Zombie Camouflage. I know you have mentioned it here that you are going to update the mod and follow some suggestion from the workshop discussion. Are you going to make it compatible with Rain wash mod and maybe make cutting guts with other bladed 2eapons pls?

[ruby urchin]

yep, probably in a couple of hours I will update it

[minor snow]

[drifting ore]

ooops

I post it in moding

sory

[rancid barn]

Not hard. If anything it just takes time. There’s a guide on the forums for making maps. If you have any issues or questions n stuff then people here will probably be able to help

[stable pine]

How do you add more challenges ? Is it by using mods ?

I want to try our the prison challenge but I cant find it

[fair frost]

why was i pinged

[rancid barn]

Prison challenge? Think that’s added by the superb survivors mod

[stable pine]

thank you

[rancid barn]

Yw

[drowsy island]

did anyone experience sudden crashes with some mods recently?

just managed to figure out mine

culprit was dressing time

[nimble spoke]

can you send me console.txt?

[drowsy island]

sure

[pine garnet]

Hi all

does anyone know how to require hot water for a recipie?

[exotic ember]

🤨

[pine garnet]

eg i want to create a recipie that requires say a pot, hot water and a vegable

or, take the tea bag in game, add it to a mug, and get water from the kettle that is hot to make tea

[atomic storm]

If you fill a cooking pot with water and heat it till it's red, that's considered hot water, and is used to sterilize bandages/rags in vanilla. So you can try looking at that recipe and going from there.

[pine garnet]

thanks, it appears there is no specific item for water, instead items are marked as IsWatersource

[thorny ridge]

Uhhh, Wraith?

That's already a thing

What Xef said about the hot water

[pine garnet]

I have found HotDrink in the scripts

[thorny ridge]

Yeah, tea is already a thing

[pine garnet]

but i am trying to make specific kinds of hot drinks

not just a generic hot drink like it is at the moment

[thorny ridge]

I mean
there's coffee too

[drowsy island]

mb copy something like the stirfry, then edit it?

idk

[atomic storm]

Yeah but you make tea/coffee the wrong way in vanilla. You add tea/coffee to cold water then heat it, which is weird and wrong.

[pine garnet]

yeah, and coffee has an evolved recipie that goes to hot drink

exactly, im trying to make that process a bit better

eg, you need a teabag, a mug, hot water (preferably from a kette) and milk, and optionally sugar

[thorny ridge]

I dont think milk should be required

[pine garnet]

ok, milk can be optional too

[drowsy island]

british tea

[thorny ridge]

That makes coffee basically worthless after the power goes out if it requires milk

[atomic storm]

I know you can add honey to the Hot Drink, which is weird, cuz who adds honey to coffee?

[pine garnet]

yeah weird for coffee, but I would have it in tea

only when sick though :p

[drowsy island]

how about adding herbs/roots to tea?

[pine garnet]

would it be better to use simple recipies, or evolved ones?

[atomic storm]

Having different types of tea each with different effects would be great.

[thorny ridge]

I know there was a couple of mods that had that, but they both come with other stuff that conflicts with other mods

[pine garnet]

yeah thats what im going for

hell, I could even expand the farming side later on

[atomic storm]

Farmable tea plants?

[pine garnet]

I have the items working and spawning in ok, just need to work on the receipies now

yeah

[thorny ridge]

I mean, if we got husks from farming corn, I'd make some tamales

[atomic storm]

running a tea shop in mp

[drowsy island]

image briar tea

quick cure for cold

[pine garnet]

so much potential

[atomic storm]

Yeah, would be a great way to deal with illnesses when the meds are all used up.

[pine garnet]

well, I have slapped a load of stuff together so ill run it and see if I get any errors

only started doing this yesterday so still learning

cant get items to spawn in on my character at start yet so I have to go find them :/

[atomic storm]

sounds like me modding New Vegas, just slappin stuff together and hoping I didn't break anything

[drowsy island]

try using debug

[pine garnet]

how do you do that?

I have tried this:

[drowsy island]

right click game on steam>properties>start settings> "-debug"

without the "

[pine garnet]

ok will try that first

[drowsy island]

gives you a handy amount of cheats and other features for debug stuff

f11 opens up a console thingy where you can check logs and other stuff

[pine garnet]

sweet, ill try it now

woah, thats a bit different

think i can see why my give items function might not be working now..

Events.OnGamestart.Add(giveItems);

im guessing it should be OnGameStart

behold the Tea!

how do i make it so it does not show the fully qualified name?

[ruby urchin]

did you add DisplayName on yours items?

[pine garnet]

yeah

item EarlGreyTeabag
{
Weight = 0.1,
Type = Food,
HungerChange = -5,
UnhappyChange = 10,
ThirstChange = 10,
FatigueChange = -15,
DisplayName = Earl Grey Tea Bag,
Icon = EarlGreyTeabag,
EvolvedRecipe = HotTea:1;HotTeaRed:1;HotTeaWhite:1;HotTeaSpiffo:1,
FoodType = Tea,
EvolvedRecipeName = Mug of Earl Grey Tea,
}

its wrapped in a module though if thats affecting it?

[ruby urchin]

shouldn't

[pine garnet]

hmm, one for later then

[ruby urchin]

lol, now I see, why are there so many nested modules?
WraithNath.PZ.British.

[pine garnet]

its one module

does it not like having multiple '.' in there?

[ruby urchin]

the module is identified by the dot, there should only be one

[pine garnet]

im used to C#, have not used lua before

ah, gotcha, ill tweak that now and see if that fixes it

[ruby urchin]

in the way it's in the source files, it should be that

[pine garnet]

thats fixed it, thank you

[craggy orbit]

no rooibush?^^

[pine garnet]

just picking a few to start then ill have a variety in there from caffeine free to medicinal, maybe even some psychedelic mushroom tea 🤣

[thorny ridge]

I wonder if there's CBD tea

[craggy orbit]

maybe using google translate on that one, northern germanys biggest teatrader https://www.intertee.de/

good source for even the exotic names

[thorny ridge]

So does butter rot

[craggy orbit]

first we still want that cbd tea answer xD

[pine garnet]

i guess you could put any plant in hot water and call it tea!

I have heard of nettle tea before made from stinging nettles

[craggy orbit]

ok, to be honest , lets get mapping up several levels with that one here xD https://deep-fold.itch.io/pixel-planet-generator

[pine garnet]

could not work out how to make it need hot water, so i have made my tea dangerous if uncooked for now 🤣

[thorny ridge]

Did you have a look at the lua file for disinfecting bandages with hot water?

[craggy orbit]

the ones that are not dangerous in raw state are the one u can smoke? xD

[pine garnet]

I did a search for it but I have not found the right file yet, or right keyword anyway

[minor snow]

How to call Java function in debug console?

[pine garnet]

recipe Disinfect Bandage
{
destroy Bandage,
WaterPot;5,
CanBeDoneFromFloor:true,
Result:AlcoholBandage,
Time:100.0,
Heat:-0.22,
Category:Health,
}

found it

[craggy orbit]

ok, that way too deep labcoatstuff going on here, i get back into my shack, over at the mapping channel , bb^^

[pine garnet]

ill try it real quick

hmm, so now i dont get the 'prepare tea' menu option unless the kettle is hot

which is idea

however, clicking it now does not work

not really anything useful in the stack trace

STACK TRACE

Callframe at: IsRecipeValid
function: isValid -- file: ISCraftAction.lua line # 10
Callframe at: StartAction
function: begin -- file: ISBaseTimedAction.lua line # 71
function: addToQueue -- file: ISTimedActionQueue.lua line # 23
function: add -- file: ISTimedActionQueue.lua line # 125
function: OnCraft -- file: ISInventoryPaneContextMenu.lua line # 2766
function: onMouseUp -- file: ISContextMenu.lua line # 90.
[04-12-21 00:35:30.730] ERROR: General , 1638578130729> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException at GeneratedMethodAccessor266.invoke..
[04-12-21 00:35:30.730] ERROR: General , 1638578130730> DebugLogStream.printException> Stack trace:.
[04-12-21 00:35:30.732] LOG : General , 1638578130732> -----------------------------------------

ill try debugging

[nimble spoke]

ISCraftAction.lua line # 10 this is useful

[pine garnet]

i got more of the error when debugging but not really sure what the issue is

the only thing i added was Heat:-0.22, to the recipie

result item is this:

item TeaMug
{
Weight = 0.5,
Type = Food,
DisplayName = Mug of Tea,
Icon = MugFulll,
IsCookable = true,
MinutesToCook = 5,
UnhappyChange = -5,
ThirstChange = -10,
StressChange = -5,
ReplaceOnUse = Mugl,
CustomContextMenu = Drink,
CustomEatSound = DrinkingFromMug,
GoodHot = true,
BadCold = true,
StaticModel = Mug,
WorldStaticModel = Mug,
EatType = Mug,
DangerousUncooked = true,
}

which is cookable

hmm, maybe not, i removed that heat line and its still broke...

[nimble spoke]

it is failing to check if the recipe is valid

return RecipeManager.IsRecipeValid(self.recipe, self.character, self.item, self.containers) and not self.character:isDriving();

this is the line

[pine garnet]

just doing some Ctrl-Z action to see if i can get back to a working point.

should really commit changes when its working

[drifting ore]

hey guys what are you up too

got back from the army not for long

[weary matrix]

anyone around with a Mac more recent than El Capitan? I need to test something if you can help

[minor island]

I made a simple item mod (added some beans) but they won't show up in the debug items list or in-game. Have I missed anything? The mod shows in-game but no items are there

My distributions file should be fine

I followed Blackbeard's Nuke Cola tutorial yet his items appear in game, but mine do not. I imagine I've missed something basic, but no errors show so I'm stuck

[ruby urchin]

what you have on your items.txt file?

[minor island]

module CBS
{
imports
{
Base
}

item ChristoBeans
{
    HungerChange        =    -25,
    Weight                =    0.8,
    Type                =    Food,
    DaysTotallyRotten    =    4,
    UnhappyChange        =    10,
    DisplayName            =    Christo's Beans,
    Icon                =    ChristoBeans,
    DaysFresh            =    2,
    Carbohydrates       =   33,
    Proteins            =   7,
    Lipids              =   1,
    Calories            =   170,
    Packaged            =   TRUE,
    ReplaceOnUse        =   TinCanEmpty,
    StaticModel         =   CanOpen,
    EatType             =   can,
    CannedFood          =   TRUE,
    WorldStaticModel    =   CanOpen,
}

}

Man... 2 hours later and it's because I forgot to add the .txt file extension

[ruby urchin]

jajaja

[minor island]

I can finally sleep but damn what a stupid mistake hahaha ffs

Thank you anyways

[ruby urchin]

btw

 imports
{
    Base
}

it's not really essential, at least I don't notice the difference

[minor island]

Ah thank you I'll get that removed

[thorn horizon]

i can use brita's weapon pack on an already loaded game right

[autumn sierra]

yeah i think so

you just gotta loot places you havent already looted

if not then you can only find the new guns on new/respawned zombies

[minor island]

Where can I edit the distribution of items like dog food, corned beef etc that spawn in cabinets?

They aren't available to edit in the distributions file (looking to add my item as an option to spawn in fridges & cupboards/cabinets in houses)

Is this a procedural thing?

Yep it is it seems, any way of adding to these procedural distributions?

Nvm think i found it sorry for the rollercoaster lol

[frail violet]

Hey everyone. 3D pleb here. I have made a new leather jacket model and texture but can't seem to figure out why it's not showing up in the debug modes item list. Is anyone able to take a look at my mod and possibly point me in the right direction? I'm pretty new to modding PZ.

[late hound]

I will send you a dm about it!

[winter bolt]

that looks really good

[frail violet]

Ty

[keen edge]

@hot patrol epic mod is epic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibqriujtph0

[hot patrol]

Just as intended

Shoulda added a scene of knocking down a tree along with the zombies

[south belfry]

if i have to get a weapon mod i would want a immersive and realistic weapon mod

[keen edge]

That's completely understandable

Not everyone is the same though

[hot patrol]

I mean technically it's kinda realistic. A sword that big would kill a lot of Zeds

But in all seriousness it was just a meme mod I thought would be fun

Can't add the dragon slayer and not make it OP

[keen edge]

I personally prefer realism and immersion most of the time as well but I also like to fuck around with random shit too sometimes 😆 plus how can you say no to dragonslayer

[hot patrol]

That looks great. Gives off some real negan vibes. You should make the good ol' Rick murder jacket to go with it!

[keen edge]

clothesbox mod has a rick jacket that looks pretty dope just so you know 😉

[south belfry]

its alright

[hot patrol]

The one in that image? If so I'm using it on every run.

[keen edge]

Ye, honestly that's exactly what I've been doing since finding it too hahaha

You can also open or close the jacket which is a nice touch

[hot patrol]

My dakimakura mod will be much more i.mersive and realistic ;)

[frail violet]

Totally up for this, once I am able to get a few in game.

[south belfry]

"dies inside and outside"

[hot patrol]

Well good luck, I look forward to seeing more of your work

[frail violet]

I appreciate it, thank you.

[keen edge]

I love that you made it open/unzipped too. Adds to the cool factor massively!

[hot patrol]

I'm in love. I've had downloaded for a while and haven't used it yet but I will now. I love clothing mods

[hot patrol]

I can't make multiplayer but I can still cure loneliness

[keen edge]

Man, imo it's the best clothing mod for PZ currently, adds loads of really good looking clothing options

[hot patrol]

I've always loved authenticZ. It's my go to for both the outfits and the fun way they are added

[keen edge]

Oh ye, I agree. Especially with the themed zombies etc. One of the mods I don't think I could play the game without at this point tbh 😆

[pine garnet]

urgh im still struggling with why adding heat to my recipie causes it to not work anymore

recipe Pepare Tea
{
EarlGreyTeabag/PGTipsTeabag/BreakfastTeabag/LapsangSouchongTeabag/AssamTeabag,
destroy WaterMugSpiffo,

    Result:TeaMugSpiffo,
    Time:200,
    Heat:-0.01,
    Category:Cooking,
}

if i take the heat off, it works fine but i want to require hot water

[tribal nexus]

Boom na da mmm dum na ema
Da boom na da mmm dum na ema

[fresh flume]

Cant help with your error, but I want to say thats a really good lookin leather jacket

[atomic storm]

That looks fun. Will there be only that one girl or will there be others?

@pine garnet Have you tried setting the "Heat" to a positive number instead of negative?
"Heat:0.01" instead of "Heat:-0.01" if it still don't work, try asking someone who made a food/cooking mod, they might know.

[pine garnet]

I have not tired positive, but the sterilize bandage recipie has it negative, ill give it a try though

[atomic storm]

Hell, maybe even ask a dev. Could just be something weird you gotta do to make it work.

[pine garnet]

is there any way to debug that recipiemanager class?

i can put a breakpoint just before its called, but cant step into it

tried F5/F6

ok so positive does not work

tried it at 0.00 and that allows it to be crafed again

but now can craft with cold water

I have added an on create script to set the result item to hot, but ideally want to get it working with hot water in the first place

its so close now

[atomic storm]

Idk at this point, the whole thing seems weird. I know it's possible to do so, but not sure why it wouldn't work.

You probably need some coding wizard to help with this. I unfortunately don't know enough about PZ's coding to help.

[pine garnet]

yeah perhaps, it seems like it should work via scripting alone looking at the vanilla recipies, but maybe the game has seomthing built in to handle those ina special way

ok, found a java dis-assembler so now looking at the RecepieManager code, should be able to work it out from that hopefully..

does anyone know how to add variables to the watch window in debug mode?

nvm, found it

[graceful niche]

Anyone know how to make a Vehicle Mod?

Im thinking of making a Honda Vehicle Pack or commisioning someone to do so.

[fresh flume]

What kind of honda?

[pine garnet]

does anyone know how to attach a debugger to the jvm?

or at least specify command line arguments to the jvm

I have tried putting them in the steam params, adn the batch files in the working directory

[pine garnet]

figured it out, now have a debugger attached 🙂

[pine garnet]

well, found the problem..

[blissful escarp]

I think one mod would be nice, Taking entire vitamin packacge instead of one

[tribal nexus]

Hello everyone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uDtrwNY0Zk

This is one of the most op wheapons that you can do with some cords and rocks

Super brutal

[proud fern]

I think that one kid used this to kill Goliath

[weary matrix]

I just realized the Lua event OnSeeNewRoom is not triggered when the room is being "seen" the first time by a player, but rather when the player is getting close enough to the building where the room is located, when the room is about to get spawned. So that means when you get close enough to the building, the event is called for each room in the building, even if the player hasn't seen the room yet. Is this new description OK?
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding:Lua_Events/OnSeeNewRoom

[tribal nexus]

Yes, it is!

[slate dagger]

cool, nice catch co!

[weary matrix]

@slate dagger thx 🙂

I'm thinking about making a mod for modders, which handle all possible events, and make the character to say the name of the event when it's triggered. Of course I'd have to filter out the events triggered in the update loop, like OnTick, OnPlayerUpdate etc. Think it would be useful?

[slate dagger]

that would definitely be usefuul

get a clearer idea on what event does

and triggers

[weary matrix]

the best part is I can generate the event handlers automatically based on my work on the wiki 😄

[slate dagger]

oh, nice!

[weary matrix]

mmm not sure what to do for events that happen when there's no character available

guess I can start by just printing something to console in the case there's no player instance

[minor island]

My canned food works, when opened it gives me the opened can of food. Yet now I have implemented the recipe upon eating the opened can it doesn't give an empty tin can like before, but it just gives me the same open can of food (unlimited food basically) with an error "perform -- file: ISEatFoodAction.lua line # 108" any idea why it won't turn into an empty can? if I set the recipe to give an empty can upon opening it does that fine, but for some reason eating the food is now not working to give an empty can

    {
       ChristoBeansClosed,
       keep [Recipe.GetItemTypes.CanOpener],

       Result:ChristoBeansOpen,
       Time:80.0,
       Category:Cooking,
       OnGiveXP:Recipe.OnGiveXP.None,
       Sound:OpenCannedFood,
    }``` That's my recipe code

[weary matrix]

@slate dagger should I put all events in one file ? Or all events handler in one file and all registrations in another file? Or each event + registration in their own file?

[minor island]

In fact sorry it doesn't give me unlimited food, but it gives me the same opened can without the ability to eat it the 2nd time

[weary matrix]

@minor island I don't really know about that, but are you sure the transformation between opened can and empty can when you eat it all is handled by the recipe?

[minor island]

The recipe only handles turning the closed can into an open can, then the user eating the can (turning it into an empty can) is a seperate action. I think I may have forgot to update the staticmodel of the can though so I'll test that first

[weary matrix]

heh sure

@quasi geode I see you typing, any opinion on my DebugLuaEvents mod? 😂

[quasi geode]

i had a similar mod i used for a while testing when events fired, basically using this

local function printEvent(event, ...)
    print("--------------------------------------")
    local d = {select(1,...)} -- convert the ... argument to a table
    for i, v in ipairs(d) do d[i] = tostring(v) end -- convert each to a string representation
    print("-- "..event .. "("..table.concat(d, ", ")..")")
    print("--")
    print("--")
end
-- add to some events, note the use of the wrapper function around printEvent
Events.OnNewGame.Add(function(...) printEvent("OnNewGame", ...) end)
Events.OnEquipPrimary.Add(function(...) printEvent("OnEquipPrimary", ...) end)
Events.OnEquipSecondary.Add(function(...) printEvent("OnEquipSecondary", ...) end)

note though some events will fire "client side" and some "server side", so you'll want to in both the client and server folders....well i did anyways, and had the string argument to the function specify if it was client/server as well as the event name

[quasi geode]

😜 (lol, replied to the wrong msg, was ment for the following one)

[weary matrix]

oh nice

@quasi geode should I put all event handlers in one file? or each event in its own file?

for now I just do this all in one file:

-- EveryDays:
-- Triggered every day at midnight (in-game).
-- https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding:Lua_Events/EveryDays
function debugEveryDays()
    local player = getPlayer()
    if player then
        player:Say("EveryDays")
    end
end

Events.EveryDays.Add(debugEveryDays)

-- EveryHours:
-- Triggered every hour (in-game).
-- https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding:Lua_Events/EveryHours
function debugEveryHours()
    local player = getPlayer()
    if player then
        player:Say("EveryHours")
    end
end

Events.EveryHours.Add(debugEveryHours)

[quasi geode]

up to you i guess.. i went all one, but i'm lazy like that (as you can see by the example lol)

[weary matrix]

I'm wondering what's best for people who will use the mod 🤔

cause one event per file means >220 files basically

[quasi geode]

seems excessive XD

[weary matrix]

yeah I think it is

but all events in one file gives you a file with more than 3K lines

[quasi geode]

if your going to give each event it own separate function like that, sure

i just dumped it all into 1 function printEvent

[weary matrix]

so one file per event?

[quasi geode]

i'd just go 1 file for all of them, and 1 shared callback that does the print (or :say) call

[weary matrix]

ah now I see what you mean

[quasi geode]

1 callback easier to maintain then 220 of them XD

[weary matrix]

@quasi geode because you think I will maintain this manually? 😂

[quasi geode]

lol

[weary matrix]

it's all generated code from my JSON files

[quasi geode]

not really, but other people might try to edit it XD

[weary matrix]

heh true

[quasi geode]

i dont expect you to do it manually, know you better then that haha

[weary matrix]

hehe ❤️

oh I should also add local to each handler

[slate dagger]

co i say all in one file 😄

[tame mulch]

Found way to dynamic replace item model that in hands of player

[minor island]

Copied the opened beans recipe code word for word (replacing what is necessary) yet it won't work man 😐

[weary matrix]

@tame mulch mmm wouldn't that set the model of the HuntingRifle for any weapon you had equipped before?

[tame mulch]

yep. It's just test func for show

[weary matrix]

ah I see

[brittle jewel]

Bringing a new meaning to "shit sandwich"

[hollow shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/extreme-bucket-demo-phil-swift-flex-seal-gif-10871835

[minor island]

My replaceonuse won't work now for no reason whatsoever (that I can see), really frustrating

nvm i got it

[ruby urchin]

game's lore isn't on 1993?

this.Year = 2012;
this.StartYear = 2012;
this.Day = 22;
this.StartDay = 22;
this.Month = 7;
this.StartMonth = 7;

[tame mulch]

hmmm

[ruby urchin]

in GameTime there are other date :o

[weary matrix]

has to be code not really used or the date has to be overridden somewhere else 😂

[tame mulch]

yeah, it is

this date rewrite in sandboxOptions

[ruby urchin]

sounds like something to put on an iceberg

[weary matrix]

isn't 2012 the date they started to write pz? Maybe they had no lore back then, so they put the date when they started?

and later it got overridden from sandboxOptions

damn it:
Exception thrown se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaException: DebugLuaEvents.lua:2650: main function has more than 200 local variables at LexState. 😂

[quasi geode]

LOL. irony..i was going to mention the 200 local limit to you earlier today XD

guess you found it yourself so i dont have to!

[weary matrix]

hehe

[quasi geode]

but ya, kahlua wont take more then 200 on the local stack. the stack is slightly different in debug mode, so theres less room (debug adds more to the stack)

on the upside, the exception message is much clearer then it used to be

[weary matrix]

wtf 😂

[quasi geode]

heh

[abstract raptor]

Anyone wanna make RADIOACTIVE ZOMBIES

[weary matrix]

@abstract raptor could be fun, there are some in Z Nation

plenty of different kinds of zombie in that show btw