#mod_development | Project Zomboid | Page 451

nimble spoke Mar 7, 2021, 3:17 PM

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I wonder where all these will spawn

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I want a heavy plasma from X-Com..... lol just kidding

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 3:18 PM

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This XM25 is only 636 faces, it's not high poly

drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 3:18 PM

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i mean texturewise xD

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 3:18 PM

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if someone made a weapon model around 20~100k polygons, that's sorta high poly

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no, it's just 512*512, actually I'm going to use 256, if someone made a weapon uses 4k texture( actually using a 4k single texture is pretty optimized too), that's sorta "high poly"

drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 3:20 PM

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its cool weapon,hand it over to brita to include it xD

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its a very cool unique grenade launcher

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i used it back in modern warfare 3 days 😄

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 3:22 PM

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No it's gonna be personal weapon

drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 3:22 PM

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its gonna be weird having 2 weapon packs man xD

main lion Mar 7, 2021, 3:35 PM

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glad you like it!

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Reising M50 / M55

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There will be an attachment update soon

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We're currently working on the last test and some fixes

drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 3:39 PM

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outstanding

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i bet i can take you ingame as my weapon engineer xD

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 3:40 PM

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PZ firing pose couldn't handle bullpops well

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so I had change it a bit

drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 3:42 PM

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i hope brita makes a low texture of this weapon,but eh oh well,im not gonna request more weapons for now as promised xD

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il let him finish his tests and fixes

severe ridge Mar 7, 2021, 4:01 PM

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half chasm PZ firing pose couldn't handle bullpops well

don't worry, most of my weapons have been modified for PZ "ergonomics" lmao

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maybe when we are able to make custom weapon anims :x

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 4:02 PM

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Can't wait for that

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 4:02 PM

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DAE "Animzed wen?"

severe ridge Mar 7, 2021, 4:02 PM

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i mean, its probably possible but thats the kind of work im not even willing to do for myself without getting paid lmao

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 4:03 PM

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Absolutely

drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 4:03 PM

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i like the current anims for all weapons xD

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i can live with it

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this is a rts style tho

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not fps

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 4:05 PM

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no, we are talking about custom animations for weapons like RPG

drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 4:05 PM

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for this,i think pz may depend on it

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they didnt even add explosion sprites

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 4:06 PM

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It's not a hard thing

drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 4:06 PM

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yeah i do have some grenades too

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they dont cast explosion sprite too

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 4:07 PM

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Traps to kill zombies, automatic turrets, scripted air supplies, workbench or mills that you have to work nearby.... so many possibilities they could do

drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 4:08 PM

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ahh yes

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automatic turrets xD

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 4:08 PM

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but they are spending time on MP

drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 4:08 PM

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there is traps tho

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bear traps and spikes things

left plank Mar 7, 2021, 4:09 PM

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they're mods not vanilla btw

drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 4:09 PM

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yeah thats true

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 4:10 PM

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But well, I ain't get paid neither, I just having my vacation in this lonely world, trying to make something because the working progress fun.

drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 4:10 PM

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well pretty much mods do the game more xD

iron salmon Mar 7, 2021, 5:02 PM

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Martin's gonna have a look at it during the week 🙂

craggy furnace Mar 7, 2021, 5:21 PM

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praise

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:23 PM

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Tbh it’s better to simplify models a bit as your never going to see like 1/3 of the detail you put in

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Like that looks amazing in blender but in zomboid it’ll look completely different

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 5:25 PM

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Ah

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So just do simple stuff

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:27 PM

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I mean do whatever you want but simplify the model a bit, britas weapons are a good example, simple model with texturing to make it have the details it needs

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 5:28 PM

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I'm not an engineer but vunder is right

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 5:28 PM

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Engineer? XD

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 5:28 PM

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I recently downloaded s mod that significantly increases the resolution of some melee weapons and guns

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Didn't find much of a difference

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:29 PM

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That’s a thing?

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 5:29 PM

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It doesn't increase the resolution by 5 times or something

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But it's definetly better than vanilla

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:29 PM

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What’s it called?

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 5:30 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2149145981

Steam Workshop::Harry's Better Vanilla Weapons (Supports silencer mod)

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You most likely already know about it

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Oh that mod

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 5:30 PM

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I haven't played in a bit

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Kinda wish we had multiplayer

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:31 PM

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I hate his m9 replacement

drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 5:31 PM

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i use this xD

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its best remake,and it works for silenced too xD

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Just use firearms B41 it has its own silencers

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And they are more balanced

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 5:32 PM

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I saw an NPCs mod, how does that work? And does it work

drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 5:32 PM

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yes,it is work

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 5:32 PM

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Neat

drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 5:32 PM

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fallow bridge Just use firearms B41 it has its own silencers

can you link me that

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 5:32 PM

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fringe patio I saw an NPCs mod, how does that work? And does it work

It doesn't.

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:32 PM

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It “works”

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No it “works”

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 5:32 PM

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In what way does it "work"

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:32 PM

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Buggy and broken as fuck

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 5:33 PM

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yeah, it works, but you have to basically fiddle and jinagle it until it quasi works.

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:33 PM

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But the NPC’s do their things albeit they fucking suck XD

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 5:33 PM

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E.G., a lot of the NPC behavior just... doesn't work.

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 5:33 PM

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So broken ai?

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 5:33 PM

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yeah.

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pretty much.

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 5:34 PM

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Rip

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:34 PM

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I mean do realize that that NPC mod is the only one in the workshop (I say only one because every version was made by the same guy)

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 5:34 PM

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I feel like it could be a cool core game addition

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 5:34 PM

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Case in point, the Serious Survivors don't really do food, so they starve to death eventually.

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:34 PM

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fringe patio I feel like it could be a cool core game addition

It will be

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B43 will have random NPC

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 5:34 PM

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Godda turn food off to keep that from happening.

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 5:34 PM

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Plenty of challenges but NPCs could be a cool new one

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:35 PM

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B42 will have simplified npc in the form of animals

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 5:35 PM

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B42 should come out in two months

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:35 PM

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@fringe patio as I said wait for B43

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 5:35 PM

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Right, @fallow bridge ?

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:35 PM

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quasi ginkgo B42 should come out in two months

EXCUSE ME?

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 5:35 PM

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Why are you laughing?

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:35 PM

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No.

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 5:35 PM

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I've said this before, but I'll say it again: If/when TIS implements AI and NPCs, they should really consider implementing something based off of the Squad System that Kenshi uses.

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 5:35 PM

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You're laughing

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The next major update will arrive in three years

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And you're laughing

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 5:36 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/joaquin-phoenix-joker-arthur-fleck-murray-how-about-another-joke-gif-16533180

Tenor

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 5:36 PM

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No more jokes, vunder

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We're done

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:36 PM

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zealous wing I've said this before, but I'll say it again: If/when TIS implements AI and NPCs...

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/136501320340209664/668141446628376585/Capture3.PNG

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Neat

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 5:37 PM

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fallow bridge https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/136501320340209664/668141446628376585/C...

B45 should be out in

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Six months?

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 5:37 PM

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fallow bridge https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/136501320340209664/668141446628376585/C...

Have you ever played Kenshi?

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:37 PM

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No

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 5:38 PM

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fallow bridge No

Six months

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That's my bet

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:38 PM

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Not interested in Kendrick

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Stop

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Thats not funny

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 5:38 PM

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fallow bridge No

Shame, you go no idea what idea when I meant the Squad system.

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:38 PM

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People will believe you about that

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 5:38 PM

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fallow bridge Thats not funny

Not even trying to be funny

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Well uhh

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:38 PM

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I don’t care for kenshi

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 5:38 PM

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Everything I say is random

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 5:38 PM

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fallow bridge I don’t care for kenshi

What's it like being an uncultured peasant?

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:38 PM

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Ok so don’t be random about the dates

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:39 PM

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zealous wing What's it like being an uncultured peasant?

Perfectly fine thanks

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 5:39 PM

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fallow bridge Perfectly fine thanks

That's something a dirty peasant would say.

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 5:39 PM

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fallow bridge Ok so don’t be random about the dates

If I mention it's just a guess then it's fine

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I mean

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 5:39 PM

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So when do you think multiplayer will be out,6 months? 2 years?

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 5:39 PM

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I remember we had two major updates in less than a month

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Remember that @fallow bridge

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:40 PM

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fringe patio So when do you think multiplayer will be out,6 months? 2 years?

Mp is looking really good

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 5:40 PM

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Wait is it me

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 5:40 PM

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So sooner?

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 5:40 PM

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But exact guessing is impossible

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 5:40 PM

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Or graphics looks better?

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 5:40 PM

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Well ya

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 5:40 PM

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Is there a comparison?

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 5:46 PM

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Imagine starting with your toon. But, you can recruit other NPC survivors into your "squad." I.e., a NPC becomes a PC, and you can swap between them and your original toon on the fly. Rinse and repeat, and you can have a whole squad of badasses recruited from NPCs. That would be cool for PZ I think, as an expansion to the existing AI systems they seem to be working on.

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Need a carpenter, recruit an NPC with high carpentry. Need a doctor? Same story. Cop or Soldier NPCs would have high firearms stats, Firemen would have high meelee, etc. Could even recruit animals, depending on how far you take it.

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Squad system in a nutshell. I could go on, but I'd be writing paragraphs.

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 5:47 PM

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I think it would be neat to assign them basic tasks or have them follow you as protection or pvp or something

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Settlement leader style

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Idk

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 5:48 PM

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zealous wing Imagine starting with your toon. But, you can recruit other NPC survivors into y...

There's a game that utilizes this system

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It's a zombie game

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Death road to Canada

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 5:49 PM

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fringe patio I think it would be neat to assign them basic tasks or have them follow you as p...

Kenshi lets you form individual squads like that. You can have one group doing one thing, and another doing something else. Multiple squads too.

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 5:49 PM

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quasi ginkgo There's a game that utilizes this system

Never played it, but I'd imagine it to be about what I think it would be.

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 5:51 PM

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fringe patio Settlement leader style

But yeah, you could have a group of survivors guarding your base, while controlling another group that's out foraging for supplies. Hot swap between groups and characters on the fly.

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I can also envision unique NPCs that have really high stats, Like the Woodcraft Guy, or Erin Fontane. Gen McGrew, et cetera.

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Just one man's thoughts. Let me know what you guys think?

drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 6:07 PM

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main lion

god its so beautiful

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you truly are a legend

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hes not a legend

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hes a god

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he ported my guns faves

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and a zip 22

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cobray shotgun

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and a calico m950

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this man right here is literally a god

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:09 PM

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NPCs gonna cost a lot of CPU resources and become a new nightmare for MP, aka lags. If they really want to make a good MP experience. Asynchronous multiplayer mode is way better since the whole game map is cell based . You can walk into a cell of somebody's world and make some changes. Maybe you found somebody's safe house and you can loot it, maybe your safe house got looted when you went outside. The only thing to sync between players are random cell data and it's just some small files.

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 6:10 PM

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You could just makes NPCs a single player only thing

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 6:10 PM

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half chasm NPCs gonna cost a lot of CPU resources and become a new nightmare for MP, aka la...

yeah, probably want to limit the total number of them in the world if/when they come to that.

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Singleplayer you could have a lot though.

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:11 PM

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Unless the NPCs are scripted, you'll never make NPCs looks alive. But scripted NPCs will become boring soon since you know what they gonna reacts to you

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But, a scripted NPC system provides possibilites to role play

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 6:12 PM

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There could also be sort of a safezone settlements and bandit settlements

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:12 PM

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especially for the mod community if we got the tools

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 6:12 PM

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Places to trade and all

drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 6:12 PM

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you could just do something like next day survival

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:12 PM

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half chasm But, a scripted NPC system provides possibilites to role play

What about

drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 6:12 PM

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if anyones played that

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:13 PM

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Just like fallouts, you make choices and they reacts to your choice

drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 6:13 PM

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which also is just the settlements system kinda

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:13 PM

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half chasm Just like fallouts, you make choices and they reacts to your choice

Ah yes

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Freeside locals rushing me with a knife

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And I'm wearing power armor

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Yeah let's ignore the fallout idea

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And make them use their brains

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 6:13 PM

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The possibilites are quite frankly endless. they talked about having reactive NPCs and the like that play the game along with you. Should be fun, having to compete against bots.

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 6:13 PM

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Who's up for zomboid fallout mod

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XD

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Does that exist already

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It could

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:14 PM

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No

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 6:14 PM

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Ah

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:14 PM

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But there are a few mods here and there

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 6:14 PM

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Could be neat

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:14 PM

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That add a few things from fallout

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 6:15 PM

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Without NPCs may not give enough of a fallout feeling tho so maybe not

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:15 PM

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You found somebody who needs water, you can give 10 units of water to him and he has 30% chance to thank you ,10% chance to give you a piece of cake, 50%chance to run away without even a thanks, 10% it's a trap like shot you suddenly

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 6:16 PM

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half chasm You found somebody who needs water, you can give 10 units of water to him and he...

Small chance to join your squad too.

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 6:16 PM

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Like one of the text decision making games

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:16 PM

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squad is another thing, it's hard to code that

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 6:16 PM

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Harder than coding an entire AI system?

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:16 PM

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yeah

drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 6:16 PM

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PZ except the survivors turn into dayZ players

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99% chance they shoot you immediately

zealous wing Mar 7, 2021, 6:16 PM

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half chasm yeah

I doubt that.

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:17 PM

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drifting ore 99% chance they shoot you immediately

You know you're playing the right game

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When the NPCs treat you worse than actual players

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Jokes aside

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:17 PM

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I got experience for that

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:17 PM

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I wish they make it so NPCs can realise how dangerous you are

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So for example

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 6:17 PM

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Well guns aren't super effective i feel

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Attract a lot of zombies

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:17 PM

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PZ did a great job on pathfinding

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:17 PM

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Raiders have a less chance to steal from a player with a high guns level and a lot of guns

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:18 PM

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half chasm PZ did a great job on pathfinding

It just works

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:18 PM

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it's so great , it's like textbook level

autumn sierra Mar 7, 2021, 6:18 PM

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I would be so happy if AIs can sneak up behind you and put a gun against your head and say “gtfo” like that shit would really make project zomboid feel like a movie

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 6:18 PM

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That sounds difficult

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:18 PM

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but pathfinding is just a small part of AI, and unless you are some god level programmer , you can't make a reliable AI system with such a small team

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 6:18 PM

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XD

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:18 PM

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We don't want a movie

autumn sierra Mar 7, 2021, 6:19 PM

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Like if you’re looting a safehouse that they own for example

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:19 PM

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We want a survival game

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:19 PM

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so scripted NPCs are better choice, also the asynchronous multiplayer mode

autumn sierra Mar 7, 2021, 6:19 PM

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Sometimes this game just feels like a movie anyways lmao

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Whether that’s the point or not

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 6:19 PM

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I feel like the best they could do Is say get out and then shoot or at least that's in most cases

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:19 PM

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You CAN make tons of scripts and save them on the server

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and randomly import the NPC and scripts into your world, it's not that difficult

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:20 PM

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Let's make it so that

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NPCs have a lower chance to be aggressive during the first few days

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It will make sense

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And it will make good balance

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:21 PM

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guys , we are repeatedly playing in the same world for years already

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when we create a new save, we know what we gonna do

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 6:21 PM

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Personally I'm more excited for multiplayer

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:21 PM

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I'm not

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:21 PM

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helicopter will come in 7th days, we should loot some stores etc etc

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 6:21 PM

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Gives some new options

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:21 PM

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Singleplayer is better

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:22 PM

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half chasm helicopter will come in 7th days, we should loot some stores etc etc

Download sandbox+ then

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 6:22 PM

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I like group warfare

autumn sierra Mar 7, 2021, 6:22 PM

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I say once the power goes out then people get antsy and defensive

fringe patio Mar 7, 2021, 6:22 PM

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TWD style

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:22 PM

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autumn sierra I say once the power goes out then people get antsy and defensive

Yeah makes sense

autumn sierra Mar 7, 2021, 6:22 PM

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Like they hunker down in their based and threaten you if you enter

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*base lmao

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:25 PM

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To make the late game less boring, scripted NPCs (easy), more random events(easy), asynchronous multiplayer mode(pretty hard but do-able), AI based NPCs(super hard), server based self learning AI based NPCs( do you want a job in skynet?)

autumn sierra Mar 7, 2021, 6:25 PM

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Project zomboid devs will like definitely go that extra mile

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Like they always do

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I’m hoping that when they add NPCs they won’t move like superb survivors do

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They make like sharp 45-90 degree turns

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It’s annoying to me how they sometimes just walk into a room and turn around and leave it feels so robotic

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:28 PM

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That's the AI based NPCs with basic pathfinding

autumn sierra Mar 7, 2021, 6:28 PM

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Yeah

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:28 PM

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But if they use scripted NPCs

autumn sierra Mar 7, 2021, 6:28 PM

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But I like how the AIs react to different situations I just wish they were smarter in terms of combat

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:29 PM

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you can see NPCs moves more reasonably, like go to somewhere together, like lock the door, build a safe house, the whole map is static, there are a lot rooms to script such things

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:30 PM

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half chasm To make the late game less boring, scripted NPCs (easy), more random events(easy...

I want to see more

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Meta(llic) events

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I really like the current meta(llic) events

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The dog one is pretty scary though

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:31 PM

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Think about that, the whole map is based on cell, when you find an event house like survivor house, it's basically replaced that house to a survivor house

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with the same technology , a helipcopter crashsite, random supply boxes , nothing hard

autumn sierra Mar 7, 2021, 6:32 PM

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I would enjoy if the gunshot events actually do something besides sound and reveal survivor camps, dead bodies, etc.

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Like once they happen, those things would spawn in the area the shots came from

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A firefight meta event would be super cool too

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:33 PM

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Currently , dog event, gunshot event, barely does nothing

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even the helicopter event is just make random sound source to attract zombies walk towards you

autumn sierra Mar 7, 2021, 6:33 PM

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Like a series of distant gunshots fighting and then eventually one dies down, and the last guy would fire until zombies get him

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Then all would be silent and you could go over and inspect what happened

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Yeah true

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I would like to see like a helicopter shadow when it gets right over you sorta like the clouds

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:34 PM

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PZ needs reasons to let people go out from their safe house

autumn sierra Mar 7, 2021, 6:34 PM

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Yeah

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I like the save our station mod for that exact reason

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:34 PM

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yep

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:34 PM

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half chasm PZ needs reasons to let people go out from their safe house

Explore

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:34 PM

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It's a good start

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:35 PM

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Cure zombies

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Accidentally make zombies black

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Repeat for eternity

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:35 PM

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Those are just loot tables

autumn sierra Mar 7, 2021, 6:35 PM

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But actual meta events that actually happen and you can search them and reveal the story would be really cool

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Survivor journals is something else I would like to see

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Similar to annotated maps just in the form of a journal

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:36 PM

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For example, PC is currently can be find in military base only

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you need a reason to get that PC

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:36 PM

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Download project zomboid

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:36 PM

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you need a reason to go there

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:36 PM

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Download

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Project

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Zomboid

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 6:36 PM

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The rosewood facility is useless

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:37 PM

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Which one?

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 6:37 PM

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There’s only one

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Rosewood facility

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Everyone calls it a “military base”

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:37 PM

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I was trying to use NearbyItem to make some receipts only available when you nearby a PC

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Then I found it's not supported, NearbyItem only supports campfire and the anvil

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And military walkietalkie are pretty useless too

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how about you need a military walkietalkie to get the location of air supply or crashsite

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since they are very very rare in base game already

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 6:39 PM

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half chasm And military walkietalkie are pretty useless too

Ehh not really, you can use them for the EBC

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EBS I mean

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But you can use every radio for the EBS

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:41 PM

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yeah, then what's the point to get a military one, it's even much heavier than toy walkietalkie

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XD

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:41 PM

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fallow bridge Everyone calls it a “military base”

Nonono

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It's called super duper secret military base

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 6:42 PM

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quasi ginkgo It's called super duper secret military base

I call it the rosewood facility because I cannot see that place as a mili base

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It looks nothing like one

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To me

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:42 PM

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And the whole game needs rebalance

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:43 PM

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fallow bridge I call it the rosewood facility because I cannot see that place as a mili base

Again

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It's a super duper secret military base

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You can call it s facility

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But it's best to call it a super duper secret facility

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:43 PM

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Fishing is OP, trapping does nothing, foraging is OP, Metalworking is pointless, electrical got no reason to levelup....

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:43 PM

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Welcome to project zomboid

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Wait

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Did I mention how a fookin burger flipper was more powerful than a veteran

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:45 PM

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And I think dev got a lot of ideas from <<the zombie survival guide>>

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:45 PM

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Uhh

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 6:45 PM

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so the katana is the most OP melee weapon in the game

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:45 PM

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Okay so

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 6:45 PM

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I’m not arguing about this here

quasi ginkgo Mar 7, 2021, 6:45 PM

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Do it in #pz_b42_chat

fallow bridge Mar 7, 2021, 6:45 PM

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Call t whatever you wanna call it

coarse pollen Mar 7, 2021, 7:00 PM

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its a military communications building

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 7:48 PM

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drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 7:49 PM

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whats this outfit

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 8:37 PM

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severe ridge Mar 7, 2021, 9:14 PM

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nice!

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i see you did the backpack as well and such

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elIxCkdFChw

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Metal Gear Solid: You're pretty good.

Metal Gear Solid
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just make sure to fit the uv the closest you can get for the masking related, otherwise blood and holes wont work/appear (not that i care, i barely work this on my own stuff, but its good, who knows 🤷)

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 9:24 PM

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The biggest problem is we can't hide or mask the body model, and multiple layer weight painting is unreasonably difficult, thank god the base body mesh is very low poly so it's still possible

severe ridge Mar 7, 2021, 9:28 PM

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HAHAHA

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i requested a way to work around masking so many times

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frustrating eh

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you can hide entire parts but not selective/custom

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 9:30 PM

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.x is such a magic format that you can import it but you never can export the same working file

severe ridge Mar 7, 2021, 9:31 PM

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indeed, it just looses some info

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 9:31 PM

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severe ridge Mar 7, 2021, 9:31 PM

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just fbx now

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kenshi vibes lul

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 9:31 PM

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📎 femalehidebody.fbx

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save some time XD

severe ridge Mar 7, 2021, 9:32 PM

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ive been making the texture invisible by re-applying the whole body uv into an empty texture

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works okay :l

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 9:32 PM

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wait... it doesn't support multiple materials but it supports multiple texture?

severe ridge Mar 7, 2021, 9:33 PM

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not really, you just select the whole body uv and stick it into a corner where no masking or texture applies basically :X

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 9:33 PM

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ah

severe ridge Mar 7, 2021, 9:33 PM

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poor workaround

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but does the job lul

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 9:33 PM

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yeah I was doing the same thing XD

severe ridge Mar 7, 2021, 9:34 PM

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ill just wait for now :l feels like a waste of time releasing mods mid development

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 9:35 PM

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yeah the none hideable body is really annoying and now I understand why everybody's making heavy armor instead of some tight clothes

severe ridge Mar 7, 2021, 9:36 PM

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i see no limitations :l but yeah, it can clip on movement

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 9:37 PM

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hats need to be rigged too?

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or there's a smart way? I see you made the shield attachment joint, I'm curious XD

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let me try make a raincoat :DDD

severe ridge Mar 7, 2021, 9:43 PM

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nah

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you can stick hats to the xml single bone definition

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but only if they're static :B

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a raincoat would need the link to the torso

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 9:45 PM

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ah, yeah, and we don't have source files of pose and anims for test... yeah you are right, maybe I'll just make some static stuff then

severe ridge Mar 7, 2021, 9:52 PM

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depends, i rather use the whole skeleton now since you have real reference :x

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adjusting by the eye its just painful

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by now i have tons of files just for reference :X

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 9:54 PM

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I can't remember how many times I opened PZ and closed it after check the model

severe ridge Mar 7, 2021, 9:55 PM

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you can stay in the game for model updates

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not for texture tho

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 9:55 PM

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my steam friend must be annoyed by seeing me playing PZ again and again and again and again XD

late hound Mar 7, 2021, 10:01 PM

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ikr

lunar abyss Mar 7, 2021, 10:05 PM

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Is there a mod that makes it possible for zombies to be completely blind?

nimble spoke Mar 7, 2021, 10:35 PM

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you can't make them blind. unless you go all the way and make them completely useless, like that one tutorial zombie. I'm working on a mod to make that possible

half chasm Mar 7, 2021, 10:52 PM

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WIP, gotta sleep :3

drifting ore Mar 7, 2021, 10:54 PM

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Wish we could build a scrap junkcar with parts from cars.

potent violet Mar 8, 2021, 6:05 AM

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Hey guys, i am trying to learn on making a map, after i made my map.bmp along with its veg map and import it into WorldED, i manage to do the BMP -> TMX, but after this stage when i click and open my cell 0,0, it shows nothing but red question marks everywhere. What can cause this issue?

late hound Mar 8, 2021, 8:21 AM

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Post that in #mapping , the people there will be happy to help!

half chasm Mar 8, 2021, 8:38 AM

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Gas mask

half chasm Mar 8, 2021, 12:18 PM

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quasi ginkgo Mar 8, 2021, 12:30 PM

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What's that backpack

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And is it me or that gun has a shield in the middle of the barrel?

half chasm Mar 8, 2021, 12:33 PM

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it's duffle bag from base game

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and yeah this gun got a shield

quasi ginkgo Mar 8, 2021, 12:33 PM

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It would be cool if we can (someone) make it so you can protect your right arm with that shield

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So you won't get shot in your right arm with that thing equipped

half chasm Mar 8, 2021, 12:43 PM

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PawLow got a swat mod for the working shield, you can try that

quasi ginkgo Mar 8, 2021, 12:51 PM

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Already have it

tame mulch Mar 8, 2021, 2:15 PM

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Has anyone studied the code Superb-Survivors or tried create custom NPC mod?

craggy furnace Mar 8, 2021, 2:27 PM

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work continues

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i dont know if PZ supports one sided masks

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i really want this thing to stop shining

tame mulch Mar 8, 2021, 2:29 PM

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I can try make it flying later, if you want :)

craggy furnace Mar 8, 2021, 2:29 PM

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sure, ill let you have the model if you want

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redoing the entire helicopter event at the moment with it, though

quasi ginkgo Mar 8, 2021, 2:31 PM

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@craggy furnace what have you done

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Why is it y e l l o w

craggy furnace Mar 8, 2021, 2:32 PM

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its a common paint scheme

vague bolt Mar 8, 2021, 3:42 PM

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hope to see the g11 in brita s pack tho

main lion Mar 8, 2021, 4:47 PM

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Gun Jesus

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https://youtu.be/sI3x30iamHc

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Gun Jesus with a Chiappa Holy Trinity! (Halloween Shotgun Match)

It's Halloween, so it's time for the Halloween Horror Shotgun match!

I took a break from serious gun work and dressed up as Jesus, running the match with a Chiappa Holy Trinity (they call it a Triple Threat) three-barreled break action 12ga. A very fun time was had by all...check out the second half of the video to see some of the other shoote...

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severe ridge Mar 8, 2021, 5:09 PM

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lmao

radiant ginkgo Mar 8, 2021, 5:24 PM

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Soon in Workshop

sour island Mar 8, 2021, 5:29 PM

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tame mulch Has anyone studied the code Superb-Survivors or tried create custom NPC mod?

I looked through it a bit when making conditional speech compatible.

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Are you wondering about anything in particular?

tame mulch Mar 8, 2021, 5:30 PM

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No, just interesting. I am starting working on Companion mod

sour island Mar 8, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Ah nice, I would recommend utilizing Say()'s seven or so arguments- setting the type to "radio" let's you use colored text.

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The other types ignore color- not sure as to why but setting it to radio doesn't impact in any another way.

tame mulch Mar 8, 2021, 5:32 PM

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thanks

sour island Mar 8, 2021, 5:32 PM

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Np, good luck

tame mulch Mar 8, 2021, 5:33 PM

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I want create companion like fallout, with dialogue system. I checked mod - this will be a lot of work 😅

sour island Mar 8, 2021, 5:33 PM

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It's alot of work but totally doable.

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If I remember correctly someone on the forums had combat mechanics on NPCs

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Thy would proitize not dying, over exact orders, and return when able.

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Idk if it ever became a mod- but it looked much more capable than SS

half chasm Mar 8, 2021, 5:44 PM

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trying to make a raincape today

coarse pollen Mar 8, 2021, 5:52 PM

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superb been throwing like 65 errors for me lately i had to stop using it

main lion Mar 8, 2021, 5:59 PM

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half chasm

lol what's that gun

half chasm Mar 8, 2021, 5:59 PM

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Random design XD

main lion Mar 8, 2021, 6:01 PM

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coool

half chasm Mar 8, 2021, 6:28 PM

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tame mulch Mar 8, 2021, 7:03 PM

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added hit animation to companion

left plank Mar 8, 2021, 7:05 PM

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damn that's really responsive

shrewd grove Mar 8, 2021, 7:06 PM

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looks really smooth

wet dune Mar 8, 2021, 7:23 PM

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tame mulch

What exactly is gonna make this different from superb survivors?

tame mulch Mar 8, 2021, 7:24 PM

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I want create one companion mod like fallout

wet dune Mar 8, 2021, 7:24 PM

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Will you find companions in the wild?

half chasm Mar 8, 2021, 7:24 PM

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https://gyazo.com/de55bbe26ee8c955f9214f4feeca29c0?token=a5430e2613b0e5ad8027c1a7436d1ca1

Gyazo

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vast dune Mar 8, 2021, 7:24 PM

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space gun

tame mulch Mar 8, 2021, 7:25 PM

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wet dune Will you find companions in the wild?

I think it will be start with companion or small quest

left plank Mar 8, 2021, 7:25 PM

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half chasm https://gyazo.com/de55bbe26ee8c955f9214f4feeca29c0?token=a5430e2613b0e5ad8027c1a...

the cape is awesome

wet dune Mar 8, 2021, 7:26 PM

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vast dune space gun

Actually it's a oicw LMAO ROFLE UNCOOL

half chasm Mar 8, 2021, 7:29 PM

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next I'm going to make another bakcpack

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any idea for the text instead of ubereats ? :p

vast dune Mar 8, 2021, 7:32 PM

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Knox Nocks

half chasm Mar 8, 2021, 7:32 PM

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Jeez I almost forgot about the burger

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we got Spiffo's already

coarse pollen Mar 8, 2021, 7:52 PM

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is the cape just cosmetic or does it carry stats?

half chasm Mar 8, 2021, 8:01 PM

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I didn't put any special feature for it, it's just another scarf atm

half chasm Mar 8, 2021, 8:20 PM

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https://gyazo.com/2d601a550572babdd9f37230d4ec2ef1

Gyazo

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severe ridge Mar 8, 2021, 8:31 PM

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lmao

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if we only had bikes

vast dune Mar 8, 2021, 8:45 PM

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im more surprised somebody made a boat mod before a bike mod

nimble spoke Mar 8, 2021, 9:32 PM

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considering we can't make the character visible in a vehicle....

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anything before a bike

shrewd grove Mar 8, 2021, 9:33 PM

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half chasm

this for some reason reminded me of that teddy bear backpack from arma 2 Dayz Origins for no reason

placid breach Mar 8, 2021, 11:12 PM

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Maybe a Tron light-cycle mod then.

plucky nova Mar 8, 2021, 11:23 PM

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i was thinking of just a bike that acts like an item, that you equip, and just speeds up your character and uses less stamina or something

vast dune Mar 8, 2021, 11:24 PM

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i would not mind a immersion breaking bike where the character is invisible

plucky nova Mar 8, 2021, 11:24 PM

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because if you cant make the character visible when its classed as a vehicle, then you can just make it an item or somethin

plucky nova Mar 8, 2021, 11:24 PM

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vast dune i would not mind a immersion breaking bike where the character is invisible

no i mean, the bike is visible in your hands

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like how soul filcher did this

vast dune Mar 8, 2021, 11:29 PM

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ohhhhhh

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so wait you would be carrying the bike

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in your hands

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and get a speed boost?

zealous wing Mar 9, 2021, 12:03 AM

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Honestly until Animzed is a thing, peeps are gonna have to settle for stupid shit like that.

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I wonder if it's possible to give fridge capabilities to a bag. I.e., turn a bag into a fridge.

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I had an idea for a cooler full of ice to keep stuff cold without power, but no idea how to implement it.

fallen quest Mar 9, 2021, 12:31 AM

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zealous wing I had an idea for a cooler full of ice to keep stuff cold without power, but no ...

it already exist

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or maybe its a mod i have

left plank Mar 9, 2021, 12:33 AM

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the "cooler" item is vanilla

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it's new

fallen quest Mar 9, 2021, 12:34 AM

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okay so my dumbass was using it with a cold pack in it

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i guess it will eventually get implemented..?

half chasm Mar 9, 2021, 6:17 AM

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The "cooler" item in vanilla does nothing , it's just another container

coarse pollen Mar 9, 2021, 7:00 AM

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rollar skates

half chasm Mar 9, 2021, 9:12 AM

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half chasm Mar 9, 2021, 9:36 AM

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My new fav gun instantly

main lion Mar 9, 2021, 9:49 AM

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half chasm

Looks badass!

half chasm Mar 9, 2021, 10:06 AM

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main lion Looks badass!

Thanks 😄

low yarrow Mar 9, 2021, 10:19 AM

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Is there somewhere a offical rig of the character to download? Playing for a while with the though to mod project zomboid, but not sure where to start in terms of bringing the objects into game.

grizzled grove Mar 9, 2021, 10:28 AM

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low yarrow Is there somewhere a offical rig of the character to download? Playing for a whi...

not yet. I've some fbx's that i put together, there's issues with them but they're good enough to do clothing mods

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/232196827577974784/817128838281691187/Project_Zomboid_Base_Characters.7z

low yarrow Mar 9, 2021, 10:32 AM

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grizzled grove not yet. I've some fbx's that i put together, there's issues with them but they'...

Thanks! Very useful 🙂

fallow bridge Mar 9, 2021, 10:34 AM

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vast dune i would not mind a immersion breaking bike where the character is invisible

you might not. but the 100000 others won't

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that's a really big thing

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many of the popular mods right now get so many people bitching it's insane

sour island Mar 9, 2021, 11:42 AM

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Peach is pulling off decent animations- he could probably get something resembling a bike rider. Though I don't actually know what he's using.

craggy furnace Mar 9, 2021, 11:51 AM

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adding interiors

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the side window looks off 😒

nimble spoke Mar 9, 2021, 12:11 PM

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The bike as an item could be done, but I expect many situations that can't be properly handled. I was working on a skateboard but decided it was not polished enough for release

sour island Mar 9, 2021, 12:30 PM

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craggy furnace the side window looks off 😒

Which windows? It looks good to me

craggy furnace Mar 9, 2021, 12:31 PM

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@sour island next to the cockpit door

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resized it anyways

sour island Mar 9, 2021, 12:33 PM

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Keep up the great work

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The minigun will look rad

craggy furnace Mar 9, 2021, 12:34 PM

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minigun 🤨

sour island Mar 9, 2021, 12:51 PM

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Machinegun?

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Does the military not use miniguns anymore :(

dawn wraith Mar 9, 2021, 1:19 PM

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sour island Machinegun?

They do use miniguns but this heli rarely used miniguns and the game sets in the 90's

main lion Mar 9, 2021, 1:56 PM

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sour island Mar 9, 2021, 2:12 PM

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:0

viscid kelp Mar 9, 2021, 2:14 PM

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sexy

half chasm Mar 9, 2021, 2:24 PM

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awesome 😄

quasi ginkgo Mar 9, 2021, 2:40 PM

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craggy furnace

My man shark is making good progress

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Just don't tell him he needs to make a crashed helicopter version

quasi ginkgo Mar 9, 2021, 2:41 PM

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dawn wraith They do use miniguns but this heli rarely used miniguns and the game sets in the...

A lot of mods/people don't really care too much about the settings, therefore they don't care about the lore too much

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Gameplay over realism

dawn wraith Mar 9, 2021, 2:44 PM

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Most vehicle modders seem to care about that

quasi ginkgo Mar 9, 2021, 2:44 PM

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Hurley

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Also while it's true they didn't use miniguns too much

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I'm pretty sure they will use it in a code red situation

craggy furnace Mar 9, 2021, 3:02 PM

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@main lion gimme

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shotgun

main lion Mar 9, 2021, 3:04 PM

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I'm going to tweak the model a bit and then re-texture it

craggy furnace Mar 9, 2021, 3:05 PM

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yeah, it needs some crisper work on the edges

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just some darker lines

low yarrow Mar 9, 2021, 3:19 PM

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Yay, my first modding attempt in PZ 😄

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(just replaced the handaxe to test model)

half chasm Mar 9, 2021, 3:21 PM

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A very good start! It's really easy to define a new item by writing some simple txts, let's try that 😄

low yarrow Mar 9, 2021, 3:22 PM

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Yea thats what i will try next. I think i just look what the other modders have done and reverse-engineer from there 😄

half chasm Mar 9, 2021, 3:23 PM

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Yeah that's a great idea XD

drifting ore Mar 9, 2021, 3:40 PM

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@low yarrow i started doing that XD

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but then a nightmare happened

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stressed

low yarrow Mar 9, 2021, 3:42 PM

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A nightmare? 😮

drifting ore Mar 9, 2021, 3:43 PM

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the one we call debugging

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tired

low yarrow Mar 9, 2021, 3:43 PM

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Oh, well 😄

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I mostly just plan to add weapons for now without much technical coding stuff since i am not a coder. So i will probably run into less debugging nightmares 😄

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I think one day it would be great to be able easly add custom animation for each weapon, once we get the animation modding tool.

vast dune Mar 9, 2021, 4:04 PM

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fallow bridge you might not. but the 100000 others won't

thats the point, i wouldnt mind a mod like that and since mods are optional then people shouldnt be bitching. if they do then the comment section should be disabled

half chasm Mar 9, 2021, 4:27 PM

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low yarrow I mostly just plan to add weapons for now without much technical coding stuff si...

Don't worry ,the most common issues for non-rigged objects will be A, you forgot a comma, B,CapsLOCK , and C, scale of your model. Just export fbx and forget about .x everything is gonna be fine.

low yarrow Mar 9, 2021, 5:31 PM

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half chasm Don't worry ,the most common issues for non-rigged objects will be A, you forgot...

Oh wait, i can use fbx? 😮

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Just downloaded a older version of blender to be able to use a .x export script 😄

grizzled grove Mar 9, 2021, 5:54 PM

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low yarrow Just downloaded a older version of blender to be able to use a .x export script ...

that one doesn't handle skinned geometry, in case that matters. But apparently the game's plan is to move toward fbx and away from .x

low yarrow Mar 9, 2021, 6:16 PM

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Alright.
Yea, i totally support the move to fbx

main lion Mar 9, 2021, 7:27 PM

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zealous wing Mar 9, 2021, 7:27 PM

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main lion Mar 9, 2021, 7:28 PM

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Wingmaster / Police / Marine / MCS / CQB / Breaching Tool / Express

grizzled grove Mar 9, 2021, 7:44 PM

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pz really mulches the darker end of colors, i'd like to see them brightened up just a bit maybe

drifting ore Mar 9, 2021, 9:22 PM

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Let's say I'd like to create some mods for my private server. Are the pinned guides good or I need something else to know?

coarse pollen Mar 9, 2021, 9:27 PM

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that would depend on what you want done'

drifting ore Mar 9, 2021, 9:29 PM

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@coarse pollen just something to handle accounts maybe

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their data like hours played

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something like that

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it's just an example

willow estuary Mar 9, 2021, 9:32 PM

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That's in the sphere of one of my current projects, and, IMO, I'd strongly suggest starting with super simple modding stuff as exercises and working your way up to account-associated stuff; the current way the java/lua split works, there really is no modding support for account associated stuff and you'd have to build the tools up from scratch.

I had to do the jankiest workaround stuff to handle super basic account associated mod stuff.

drifting ore Mar 9, 2021, 9:34 PM

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Well what i meant is if we had a chance to work server-side and client-side 😸

willow estuary Mar 9, 2021, 9:38 PM

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Actually thinking on it, my project is fairly niche and weird so I might be unintentionally exaggerating the difficulty?
But I still think that it's not a good first PZ modding effort if you don't already know the ropes?

But also, my server had tools like that, but we used javascript bots that accessed the server log text files to evaluate information and send output to our discord server?
So that might be an easier way to handle that sorta stuff.

sonic flame Mar 9, 2021, 9:43 PM

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is it possible for a mod to handle distributions so badly that they break the entire table?

willow estuary Mar 9, 2021, 9:46 PM

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Absolutely. Especially given that :

Tons of updates to b41 changed the distributions tables, sometimes every week or two, and broke the distro tables in a lot of mods, many of which never got updated to the current loot tables.
I've seen a fair amount of mods overwrite the vanilla loot tables instead of appending to them.

sonic flame Mar 9, 2021, 9:47 PM

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is what I need to understand. if I can find it I can deal with it

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I thought it was out of date distributions, but these are mods that have updated in like the last week or so, and it's basically every mod with a distribution file

willow estuary Mar 9, 2021, 9:50 PM

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Just keep in mind, although a mod may have been updated recently, or is super popular, that does not mean that the mod author has a good handle on how distribution table stuff works? Fucked up shit in the distro table files, even for recently updated/popular mods, is something I see constantly.

sonic flame Mar 9, 2021, 9:51 PM

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that's fair, but I doubt all of these mods are that behind on distribution

zealous wing Mar 9, 2021, 9:51 PM

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What blair said. I have about 20 patches I've made that exist to un-fuck distro tables.

zealous wing Mar 9, 2021, 9:52 PM

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sonic flame that's fair, but I doubt all of these mods are that behind on distribution

Oh you sweet summer child. They are.

sonic flame Mar 9, 2021, 9:52 PM

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jesus

willow estuary Mar 9, 2021, 9:52 PM

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Also, given how many times the distro tables have changed with the PZ b41 updates, I wouldn't put a bunch of effort into fixing that stuff until b41 is finished and stable.

sonic flame Mar 9, 2021, 9:52 PM

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well I thought they could be using old distro, but I'm getting nil tables on tables that absolutely exist in the vanilla distro files

zealous wing Mar 9, 2021, 9:53 PM

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If some mod author doesn't copy the entirety of Distributions.txt into their mod, they're copying it and then truncating it, which is substantially worse.

sonic flame Mar 9, 2021, 9:53 PM

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so I've been wondering if something fucky is going on

zealous wing Mar 9, 2021, 9:53 PM

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A lot of times they use weird lua fuckery to put their items into the game world too.

sonic flame Mar 9, 2021, 9:53 PM

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yeah those are the ones I've been eyeing

zealous wing Mar 9, 2021, 9:54 PM

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99.99 percent of the time, a simple TableInsert is all you need.

sonic flame Mar 9, 2021, 9:54 PM

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so this is relatively safe?

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(I've been wondering what those middle lines are)

zealous wing Mar 9, 2021, 9:54 PM

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Fuck, you don't even need the 3rd and 4th lines.

sonic flame Mar 9, 2021, 9:54 PM

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I see that a lot

zealous wing Mar 9, 2021, 9:55 PM

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require 'SuburbsDistributions' and go from there.

sonic flame Mar 9, 2021, 9:55 PM

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that's all they need on requires?

zealous wing Mar 9, 2021, 9:56 PM

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Example time:
`require 'Items/SuburbsDistributions'
require 'Items/ProceduralDistributions'

table.insert(SuburbsDistributions["burgerkitchen"]["fridge"].items, "AAApoc.AAATomatoSlices");
table.insert(SuburbsDistributions["burgerkitchen"]["fridge"].items, 1);
table.insert(ProceduralDistributions["list"]["StoreShelfSnacks"].items, "AAApoc.AAAGelatinMix");
table.insert(ProceduralDistributions["list"]["StoreShelfSnacks"].items, 1);`

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That's it.

sonic flame Mar 9, 2021, 9:57 PM

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gotcha, thanks for the info

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got class right now but I'm gonna mess with it in a bit

zealous wing Mar 9, 2021, 9:57 PM

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That's really all it is. And then you got Peach straight up duplicating Distro.txt, or a few others that use advanced lua to put a widget into a crate.

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Table.insert folks, it's magic.

coarse pollen Mar 9, 2021, 9:58 PM

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with green fire if i dont use blairs update to it i dont see bongs pipes or rolling papers, if i use the other patch i dont see those items drop at all

zealous wing Mar 9, 2021, 9:59 PM

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Green fire is mentioned
Have Nam flashback to debugging

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That guy was hiiigh when he coded that.

coarse pollen Mar 9, 2021, 9:59 PM

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its a fun mod

zealous wing Mar 9, 2021, 9:59 PM

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Don't look at the code.

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Like, ever.

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Don't do that.

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You will be compelled to hang yourself with your shoelaces from the nearest light fixture.

drifting ore Mar 9, 2021, 10:00 PM

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aha

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can i see it pls

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😄

zealous wing Mar 9, 2021, 10:01 PM

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Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\108600\1703604612\mods

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Lay a tarp out first, easier for the MEs to clean up.

coarse pollen Mar 9, 2021, 10:02 PM

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lately too i have had to shut survivor off its been throwing around 65 errors at me and im still figuring out why

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probably one of the outdated mods in my list

zealous wing Mar 9, 2021, 10:03 PM

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Imma wait for an update for stable before I touch the Surviviors mod.

coarse pollen Mar 9, 2021, 10:03 PM

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im positive my problem with it is being caused by an older mod

zealous wing Mar 9, 2021, 10:04 PM

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Bethesda method.

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Disable mods until the errors stop.

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When the errors stop, you've found your culprit.

coarse pollen Mar 9, 2021, 10:05 PM

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bethesda was easier to work with, i had better tools to debug and to get my load orders

zealous wing Mar 9, 2021, 10:06 PM

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Those tools exist because modding their games is a nightmare without them.

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At least with PZ you don't have to worry about a load order.

coarse pollen Mar 9, 2021, 10:06 PM

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you kind of do though depending on some mods

zealous wing Mar 9, 2021, 10:08 PM

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You aren't wrong there. I have about 20-30 unpublished patches that exist solely to un-fuck issues I've had with mods.

craggy furnace Mar 9, 2021, 10:15 PM

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off to be textured

nimble spoke Mar 9, 2021, 10:31 PM

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Now.... GET TO DA CHOPPA

drifting ore Mar 9, 2021, 10:40 PM

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We can fly this over the map without issues

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now we need a arm prosthetic to make a punished snake gameplay

craggy furnace Mar 9, 2021, 10:41 PM

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@drifting ore heh

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i had those thoughts making this

sonic flame Mar 10, 2021, 1:21 AM

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ayyyy I worked it out

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first of all, the mod presets mod is a godsend and I wish I had found that earlier

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Two of my mods tried to edit distributions in the format that the vanilla distributions file does and both broke distro

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So @nimble spoke none of your Time mods have bad distribution, it was another mod breaking my shit. You're good

willow estuary Mar 10, 2021, 1:36 AM

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What two mods? Trying to evaluate the exact how and why's re certain mods breaking distros is something Andre and I have knocked around with in the past, so the more samples we have the better.

sonic flame Mar 10, 2021, 1:36 AM

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The crossbow and canteen

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Neither of them use the regular table insert methods

willow estuary Mar 10, 2021, 1:40 AM

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Oh my, that canteen mod has some generous spawn values.

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Ah, okay, I think that helped root out how some of these mods fuck up item spawns.
Compare this from the canteen mod

 fossoil =
    {
        counter ={
            rolls = 1,
            items = {
                "CAN.CanteenEmpty", 20,
            },
        },```

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vs the vanilla Distro data

    fossoil =
    {
        isShop = true,
        counter ={
            rolls = 4,
            items = {```

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Which, according to my patchy knowledge of how the item spawns work, ordinarily the fossoil counters make 4 rolls for every item that's on the list for it to check for spawning?

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But the canteen mod changes that to 1 roll, meaning only 25% as much stuff spawns in the fossoil counters when using the mod.

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 1:46 AM

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Aren't the items list an intermingled list of types and values?

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I remember someone else posting insert()s of the whole array rather than the type and chance respectively

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Also wouldn't writing that chunk of script completely overwrite the fossoil counter's distro entirely to only have canteens?

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as far as I'm aware it shouldn't be able to add onto vanilla that way- unless distros are handled differently to items

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would be nice to review mods somehow

sonic flame Mar 10, 2021, 2:03 AM

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The xbow and canteen both edit that way and both broke my distribution

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The spear fix also broke shit, but I dont know if it also does that, just wanted to get rid of it

zealous wing Mar 10, 2021, 2:23 AM

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Yeah, don't use those mods in their current forms @sonic flame. if you want a canteen, use Marcin Items Mod or Blair's GEAR mod. More Pole Weapons also has all the spear you'll ever want or need. You can make a goddamn naginata with that mod.

sonic flame Mar 10, 2021, 2:33 AM

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Roger that. Theres nothing I like desperately need, just took me too long to figure out why things were broken at all

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Is that distribution method flat out wrong, or is it just being done incorrectly?

zealous wing Mar 10, 2021, 2:46 AM

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Flat out wrong. With that distro table set up that way, just about every mod that adds something to distributions would break.

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Especially if the mods are loaded after the Canteen mod. and since that mod id starts with a C, that would be most of them.

nimble spoke Mar 10, 2021, 3:47 AM

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sonic flame So <@315927413349416962> none of your Time mods have bad distribution, it was an...

Thanks for checking!

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that method is overriding the original table and thus deleting all vanilla items, as well as mod items that were loaded before that mod

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never do that people, you're screwing with the tables for absolutely no reason

drifting ore Mar 10, 2021, 4:43 AM

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is that why MREs never spawn for me anymore?

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i noticed that they wouldn't spawn but i have a canteen mod

sonic flame Mar 10, 2021, 5:23 AM

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If it's the one that recently released, then yeah, it's breaking your distribution

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 5:41 AM

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are the authors to these mods still around?

sonic flame Mar 10, 2021, 6:36 AM

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I'm sure the canteen author is. the mod was released like 10 days ago

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:43 AM

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well hopefully they care enough to fix it lol

hollow shadow Mar 10, 2021, 7:13 AM

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Did something change with distributions? Is my mod broken now?

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 9:37 AM

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half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 10:02 AM

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low yarrow Mar 10, 2021, 10:03 AM

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I have used "ItemZed" to create a mod and to add a new item.
So it spit out this piece of god here, but i do not find my item ingame within the cheatmenu:

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Does it needs more then this code?

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 10:04 AM

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I never used cheatmenu, I made a debug receipt

low yarrow Mar 10, 2021, 10:04 AM

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Oh, like a really cheap recipe? Good idea

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 10:04 AM

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recipe Who needs money?
{
RippedSheets/DenimStrips/RippedSheetsDirty,

    Result:Money,
    Time:5.0,
}

recipe Purchase something
{
    Money,

    Result:something,
    Time:100.0,
}

low yarrow Mar 10, 2021, 10:05 AM

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I see 😄

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 10:05 AM

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kill a zombie or just tear your Tshirt, swap it to money and buy your stuff

low yarrow Mar 10, 2021, 10:05 AM

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yea i try that

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 10:14 AM

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Sale

low yarrow Mar 10, 2021, 11:15 AM

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oh, seems like i had to add this "base" thing here in order to find it with the cheat menu:

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 11:55 AM

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low yarrow oh, seems like i had to add this "base" thing here in order to find it with the ...

That's right, I put this in all of my scripts

low yarrow Mar 10, 2021, 12:17 PM

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Alright, i came so far that it shows the icon of the weapon. (Took me a while to realize that i mistakely exported in 64 bit PNG)
But the Model wont show up, no matter what

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I added that here which basically should link it to the model:

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And the texture it probably grabs from the counter part in the texture folder with the same name

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 12:51 PM

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if cheatmenu only operates with Base you would have to "import" it

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coincidentally, the vanilla farming module imports base

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 12:53 PM

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low yarrow I added that here which basically should link it to the model:

are you trying to replace the vanilla texture?

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replacing vanilla assess gets finicky - you'll have to rename it to something unique

low yarrow Mar 10, 2021, 12:57 PM

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Thank you for the anwser.
I just managed it to make it work now.
I added this this "attachment world"
Also re-exported the mesh and changed the "weaponsprite" name (I thought it uses the icon as weaponsprite)

So not really sure what of those has fixed it 😄

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 12:58 PM

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changing the weaponsprite name might have done it

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I forget which var is which though- icon, static model, weaponsprite -- two of them are interchangeable and weaponsprites are actually 3D models (I think?)

low yarrow Mar 10, 2021, 1:00 PM

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Yep i think too. I just deleted this "attachment world" code and it still works.

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Yes, the weaponsprite seems to be 3D

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 1:00 PM

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yeah, I think the name is a leftover when the game was using 2D assests

low yarrow Mar 10, 2021, 1:00 PM

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could be

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A little bit confusing tho 😄

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 1:01 PM

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yeah

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static model is used for in-world only iirc

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if you wanted your item to appear on the ground

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also, if you're modifying vanilla items I would recommend itemtweaker

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it will help avoid some of the finicky behavior and make your mod more compatible overall

low yarrow Mar 10, 2021, 1:03 PM

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I have no staticmodel, but yet the 3D model appears on the ground

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 1:03 PM

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I think it's icon = staticmodel = icon in the code then

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I remember running through the java and seeing one of the vars grabs the other if blank

low yarrow Mar 10, 2021, 1:04 PM

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yea, could be the icon which has appeared on the ground

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So if i add a static model it becomes 3D?

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 1:05 PM

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it would need a model defined too

low yarrow Mar 10, 2021, 1:05 PM

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would be kinda cool

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 1:05 PM

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I haven't looked at scripts for a while

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attachment world defines angles and such - you could have it standing up or not

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the model would need a mesh and texture though

low yarrow Mar 10, 2021, 1:07 PM

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Oh, now i get it what this attachment world is for

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 1:08 PM

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but yes static model should define whats on the ground

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or it might use weaponsprite

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I would have to look in the code again

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I don't have staticmodel defined for some items in my mod- so I assume it's actually weaponsprite = staticmodel

low yarrow Mar 10, 2021, 1:11 PM

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Just tested it quickly. Adding a static model does not change the apperance of the items on the ground yet

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 1:11 PM

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yeah so it must be that then, the 3D model vars are interchangeable

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or one inherits the other

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hold on I'll open my IDE

low yarrow Mar 10, 2021, 1:12 PM

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removing the sprite and only keep the static model makes all models invisible ingame 😄

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Like zombies and the character

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 1:13 PM

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you pooped the renderer I imagine

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   public String getStaticModel() {
      return this.staticModel != null ? this.staticModel : this.weaponSprite;
   }

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so specifically, staticModel inherits weaponSprite if static isn't defined

low yarrow Mar 10, 2021, 1:15 PM

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alright

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Well, i keep the sprites for now on the ground as they are good enough.
Thank you anyway!

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 1:16 PM

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np

craggy furnace Mar 10, 2021, 1:21 PM

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inside needs more TLC but atleast the major work is done

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 1:59 PM

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Can anybody help me to code something which you have to stay nearby to access the recipe. Just like the NearbyItem from the base game? NearbyItem only supports Anvil and campfire so far.

zealous wing Mar 10, 2021, 2:34 PM

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I made a tissue box:

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Needs more work I think.

craggy furnace Mar 10, 2021, 2:50 PM

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@zealous wing its missing something

left plank Mar 10, 2021, 3:08 PM

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zealous wing I made a tissue box:

they look awesome

craggy furnace Mar 10, 2021, 3:11 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/lotion-press-gif-13094455

Tenor

zealous wing Mar 10, 2021, 3:13 PM

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I think it was the outline:

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Empty:

craggy furnace Mar 10, 2021, 3:14 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/julius-funnyjulius-wack-beat-lotion-gif-12266791

Tenor

zealous wing Mar 10, 2021, 3:21 PM

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Brown and Green variants:

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What do you think is a good count for total # of tissues?

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I'm leaning toward 50.

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Gonna treat it as a drainable container, with a recipe to take a tissue at a time.

tame mulch Mar 10, 2021, 3:22 PM

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zealous wing Mar 10, 2021, 3:23 PM

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tame mulch

https://tenor.com/view/bass-bumpin-loud-music-car-gif-6223390

Tenor

left plank Mar 10, 2021, 3:26 PM

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tame mulch

https://tenor.com/view/rko-wwe-wrestling-randy-orton-gif-15820595

Tenor

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when the pickup truck RKOs a zombie

drifting ore Mar 10, 2021, 3:38 PM

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Bottle flip car edition

low yarrow Mar 10, 2021, 4:22 PM

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Another tool the "Cheap Survival Knife" for the bushcraft series i am working on 🙂

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jovial summit Mar 10, 2021, 4:23 PM

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Nice!

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 4:23 PM

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looks very clean 😄

low yarrow Mar 10, 2021, 4:23 PM

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Thanks!

nimble spoke Mar 10, 2021, 6:10 PM

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half chasm Can anybody help me to code something which you have to stay nearby to access th...

I know Blair had a code for that. It is in my list to do since I need to replace NearItem

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:11 PM

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couldn't you just copy how anvil handles it?

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:11 PM

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nimble spoke I know Blair had a code for that. It is in my list to do since I need to replace...

Since Anvil and campfire are in there already.... is there some file I can edit it and add something?

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:12 PM

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if you use any type of IDE you could advance search the lua files

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:14 PM

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I'm a noob at coding :S

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:15 PM

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I would first not use notepad if that's what you're using

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I would recommend intelliJ

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you can choose how complex you'd want it to be

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but with that program you can use ctrl+shift+f to search all files at once for specific text

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I hope/assume stuff like atom or notepadd ++ have that too

zealous wing Mar 10, 2021, 6:17 PM

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I mean, I use Notepad++ for PZ modding. But if you're getting balls deep into java/lua, yeah, use a proper coding app. 😄

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:19 PM

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Well, I know nothing about programming, all I know is easy stuff like those txts in the scripts folder

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:19 PM

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sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:20 PM

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zealous wing I mean, I use Notepad++ for PZ modding. But if you're getting balls deep into ja...

if you take some time the more advanced stuff makes it easier for you

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:21 PM

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That's french to me XD

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:22 PM

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my current setup predicts potential functions/vars

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otherwise you'd have to dig through pz lua, the java, or other's mods

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:24 PM

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Actually I'm not even an english speaker, I have to google translate "potential" and "vars" to understand , that's why I'm asking for help for coding XD

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:24 PM

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ah

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unfortunately, programming languages are in English- so that's going to makes things more complicated

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what's your native language, if you don't mind?

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:26 PM

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programming language is in another thing...

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I speak chinese, english, japanese, and mongolian

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:27 PM

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impressive

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"programming" is a language onto itself- but the words are terms are usually in English- is what I meant

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:28 PM

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well for example, the gif you just post

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I can read that but I don't understand why you write that

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my main job uses some programming language maybe based on java too

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I can change the value and copy&paste something really easy but I don't know why and what kind of format I should write..

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:30 PM

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if you keep at it you'll eventually get it

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once you learn 1 programming language the rest can come easily as well

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:31 PM

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I couldn't ,after working with it for 14 years

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:31 PM

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well were you working in something that corrects you if you're doing something wrong?

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:32 PM

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I hired someone to do that for me , I tell him the feature I want, ask if that language can supports that, and we discuss and I let him make that for me ...

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:32 PM

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that's one way of doing it

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Lua is fairly easy to understand- I would give it a shot

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it uses words instead of symbol operators (although you can use those if you want)

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whatever program you use make sure it colors the code (markdown)

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:35 PM

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sorry but I got confused instantly XD

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:36 PM

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you won't be programming in java for PZ

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go to file > open > and look for the directory of your mod

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or the PZ media folder

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:37 PM

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alright... let me try...

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:37 PM

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don't try to "create" a new project, just exit that

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:39 PM

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Alright , I got my mod directory for work

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:39 PM

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should look like this

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:39 PM

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yes

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:39 PM

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the lua folder has the lua code

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if you hold down ctrl+shift+f

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you can search the entire directory for the word- anvil for eaxmple

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an see how an anvil is mentioned

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:40 PM

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Ah

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yeah you mean the PZ media folder

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:41 PM

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this is a quicker way to dig through the code in a primative way

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half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:42 PM

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how can I open another ... address

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it's bit different under macOS

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:43 PM

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if you opened the project window onto media

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the lua is included

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idk what the command for advanced search is on OSX

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I assume cmd + shift + f ?

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:45 PM

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no I mean

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I can't access the media folder for PZ with that app

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:45 PM

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uh

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:45 PM

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in macOS that folder is inside the package

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:45 PM

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do you know where it is installed?

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oh

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:45 PM

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yeah, but it's packaged

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:46 PM

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what does your PZ directory look like

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:46 PM

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sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:46 PM

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that's it?

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:46 PM

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you haven to right click the PZ, choose open the package

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Then contents->Java->Media and such

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oh

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I think I did it

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:47 PM

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I guess OSX have to decompile first then?

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:48 PM

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by draging the whole media folder into it lol

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:48 PM

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idk how macs work

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ah, ok

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:49 PM

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oh and

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Ah, I did it 😄

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:50 PM

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👌

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If you want the predictive text thing you'd have to install more stuff- but this should help you atleast get started

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:50 PM

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I was opening every lua and ctrl+F to search lol

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 6:50 PM

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I feel your pain

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you may have to install a plugin for lua markdown

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file > settings > plugins
select marketplace at the center/top

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look for EmmyLua

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 6:59 PM

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I thought like "there must be something to define how NearItem (for scripts) should work with which object"

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 7:00 PM

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unfortunately isNearItem is on the java side

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 7:00 PM

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ah

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 7:00 PM

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so Lua won't offer an easy copy and paste

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you'd have to write your own IsNearItem

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   private static boolean isNearItem(Recipe var0, IsoGameCharacter var1) {
      if (var0.getNearItem() != null && !var0.getNearItem().equals("")) {
         for(int var2 = var1.getSquare().getX() - 2; var2 < var1.getSquare().getX() + 2; ++var2) {
            for(int var3 = var1.getSquare().getY() - 2; var3 < var1.getSquare().getY() + 2; ++var3) {
               IsoGridSquare var4 = var1.getCell().getGridSquare(var2, var3, 0);
               if (var4 != null) {
                  for(int var5 = 0; var5 < var4.getObjects().size(); ++var5) {
                     if (var0.getNearItem().equals(((IsoObject)var4.getObjects().get(var5)).getName())) {
                        return true;
                     }
                  }
               }
            }
         }

         return false;
      } else {
         return true;
      }
   }

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this is the java for it

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 7:01 PM

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my savior !

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 7:01 PM

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this wouldn't work as a lua mod though

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you'd have to translate it basically

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 7:02 PM

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but how... can I use it

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 7:02 PM

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OR you could get hacky and try to use isNearItem as is

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but the first argument HAS to be a recipe

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 7:03 PM

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well, my purpose is make something really heavy or stationary stuff , like a workbench

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and force player go for it to make ammos

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 7:04 PM

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do you want the workbench to be required?

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. _ .

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you can use the recipe system for this

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there's a variable in scripts called NearItem

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it just has to match the workbench

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 7:04 PM

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yes, but it only supports anvil and campfire

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 7:05 PM

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it shouldn't matter

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the word anvil doesn't appear at all in java

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so it's entirely on lua and scripts

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 7:07 PM

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This right?

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I've tested it and it only works for anvil and campfire... I tried to make it work with vending machine but it doesn't work...

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so for example, if I want it work with a vending machine... can you tell me what should I do ?

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 7:08 PM

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media\lua\server\BuildingObjects\ISAnvil.lua

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that's where anvils are defined

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 7:08 PM

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I think vending machine is a world object ?

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 7:08 PM

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you should be able to play around with this

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 7:11 PM

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oh but thanks for the IntellJ IDEA... I think I got something for the world object names... let me try if NearItem:fridge works...

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no it doesn't :S

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 7:24 PM

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did you try capitalizing Fridge?

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also look into media\lua\server\BuildingObjects\ISAnvil.lua

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you can define a workbench using anvil as a template

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 7:26 PM

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I used microwave instead since there are many fridges, I 've tried NearItem:Chrome_Microwave, NearItem:microwave, none of them worked

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 7:27 PM

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🤷‍♂️

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 7:27 PM

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yeah.... it's weird that nearitem only works for anvil and campfire

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when I googled about more information I see someone had the same issue in the forum

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 7:29 PM

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it looks like it's using the names of the object

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not path/type

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 7:30 PM

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for example... microwave, there is only 1 microwave in the game...

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 7:31 PM

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are microwaves ISBuildingObject like anvils?

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 7:31 PM

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no

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 7:35 PM

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the java says it's looking for a Name via .getName()

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an IsoObject (basically anything) and get Name that's it

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 7:36 PM

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for example, a microwave please ? panic

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 7:36 PM

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you can try using SetName()

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it may not actually have a "name"

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 7:38 PM

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eh...where shall I put the SetName()...

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 7:39 PM

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not actually sure-it would probably be easier to overwrite getNearItem to look for type or Name rather than just Name

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but this means you can make the workbench

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if you just use Anvil as a template

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cause it has a setname in there

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if you wanted to confirm this before trying

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 7:41 PM

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I think finding and replace the graphic of Anvil is easier to me now but I don't want to replace the original file...

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 7:41 PM

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you could enter a setName on microwave's UI function

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like turning it on set's the name

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to test if it is an issue of Name

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 7:44 PM

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It's too hard to me 😂 I think I'll make an item with 40weight to simulate" this thing is too heavy so you can't bring it all the time" feeling then

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But, stationary object like workbench should make PZ more fun and give people a reason to go out + some realistic feeling. Like machine mills , they are so heavy in real life and cannot be moved by a single guy. so you have to go to workshop to craft metal stuff etc...

willow estuary Mar 10, 2021, 7:49 PM

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OnNearItem has been obsolete for this purpose for months now? OnCanPerform was added to make things easier for modding in this sort of thing.

There should be an example in the recipes.txt file of the new method + more details in the patch notes from when the new OnCanPerform parameter was added.

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 7:50 PM

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/*
/* Example using OnCanPerform and Tooltip */
recipe HockeyMaskSmashBottle
{
WineEmpty/WineEmpty2/WhiskeyEmpty,
Result:SmashedBottle,
Time:20,
OnCanPerform:Recipe.OnCanPerform.HockeyMaskSmashBottle,
Tooltip:Tooltip_Recipe_HockeyMaskSmashBottle,
}
*/

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ah yes I found this one!

zealous wing Mar 10, 2021, 7:51 PM

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@willow estuary Hey, speaking of, can you help me with that later? Totally forgot. At work though right now.

willow estuary Mar 10, 2021, 7:51 PM

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@zealous wingyou got it 😉

coarse pollen Mar 10, 2021, 7:53 PM

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im thinking i want to make a necklace that holds that marching powder in it , key bumps all day

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 7:57 PM

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Great news to gun makers!

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yes it's no the best , if you use a long range weapon you'll know it doesn't targets where you are pointing well, and shooting to downstairs acting weird too. Also thrown weapons doesn't hurts zombies in the different floor

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and shotguns for multiple target, doesn't works well too. the targeting angle is not believable whatever you adjust in script

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There is a game called dead nation ,and it was pretty good example imo ,I really enjoyed it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD9r49_5DZc

YouTube

PlayStation Europe

Dead Nation: Apocalypse Edition on PS4 trailer | #4ThePlayers

Classic zombie shooter Dead Nation: Apocalypse Edition arrives on PS4, with new features.

▶ Play video

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 8:04 PM

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shouldn't the scripts file be updated if there's new methods?

willow estuary Mar 10, 2021, 8:04 PM

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The gun code is getting rebuilt after build 41 is finished.
I wouldn't worry overmuch regarding it's shortcomings in the meantime.

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 8:07 PM

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ok, didn't know that plan, well it's just some random thoughts

drifting ore Mar 10, 2021, 8:25 PM

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Oh my god, it's planetgol

muted grail Mar 10, 2021, 9:36 PM

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half chasm There is a game called dead nation ,and it was pretty good example imo ,I really...

is it a good game?

zealous wing Mar 10, 2021, 9:36 PM

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Looks good at least.

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 9:37 PM

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Pretty fun arcade game, at least a good example of the shooting/targeting part

grizzled grove Mar 10, 2021, 9:41 PM

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reminds me of the old sigma team games, alien shooter, zombie shooter, etc

half chasm Mar 10, 2021, 9:42 PM

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you kiting enemies and shoot while moving , sometimes dash to avoid dangerous attacks, pretty much like what we do in PZ

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and yes I know PZ is more like a zombie apocalypse survivor simulator instead of a shooting game.

tame mulch Mar 10, 2021, 10:44 PM

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helicopter style 🙂

grizzled grove Mar 10, 2021, 10:44 PM

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oh wow!

sour island Mar 10, 2021, 11:03 PM

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tame mulch helicopter style 🙂

neat

jovial summit Mar 10, 2021, 11:07 PM

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tame mulch helicopter style 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnrwLgOnMV8&ab_channel=FallenAngel2282
Volume warning lol

YouTube

FallenAngel2282

Harry Potter Theme (BASS BOOSTED) (EAR RAPE)

If you like this Sub, Like and comment some suggestions on what i should do next
and i give credit to my friend Simon for showing me this funny image

▶ Play video

pulsar mango Mar 10, 2021, 11:28 PM

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tame mulch helicopter style 🙂

https://youtu.be/9Cf3SutIIQY?t=10

YouTube

CivilGamers

Call of Duty Black Ops - Step 5 - Skewer the Winged Beast

I was messing around with Vegas 10 and decided to upload a quality test.
No commenting on how bad the gameplay is. It's from my PS3 and I am completely miserable with controllers.
Recorded with a BlackMagic Intensity Pro.

▶ Play video

drifting ore Mar 11, 2021, 12:45 AM

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tame mulch helicopter style 🙂

can i fly into a building and make it go boom doe

drifting ore Mar 11, 2021, 1:41 AM

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sour island neat

hi there chuck i need your expertise again

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is there a variable or function that declares or determines if a weapon can be sheathed into belt or back?

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if so i cant seem to find it

sour island Mar 11, 2021, 1:42 AM

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AttachmentType in scripts iirc

drifting ore Mar 11, 2021, 1:43 AM

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got it thanks

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isnt that for zombies though?

sour island Mar 11, 2021, 1:43 AM

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that'd be under models

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item scripts have AttachmentType too

drifting ore Mar 11, 2021, 1:44 AM

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aight found it fixed it

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thanks chunk

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u dah best

drifting ore Mar 11, 2021, 1:48 AM

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sour island that'd be under models

is there a way to edit the angled in which its sheathed in

sour island Mar 11, 2021, 1:49 AM

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not easily

drifting ore Mar 11, 2021, 1:49 AM

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let me guess

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i have to create a seperate sheathed model

sour island Mar 11, 2021, 1:49 AM

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I know attachmentworld lets you change angles- idk if you can do that with item's attach points in scripts

drifting ore Mar 11, 2021, 1:50 AM

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hey only one way to find out

regal shuttle Mar 11, 2021, 2:16 AM

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@tame mulch lol thats sick heli mod would be so rad

grizzled grove Mar 11, 2021, 2:22 AM

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sour island I know attachmentworld lets you change angles- idk if you can do that with item'...

my guess is that animations would probably override the scripting

main lion Mar 11, 2021, 11:30 AM

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FAMAS F1 / G2 / Felin

quasi ginkgo Mar 11, 2021, 11:30 AM

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Brita is doing god's work

main lion Mar 11, 2021, 11:31 AM

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quasi ginkgo Brita is doing god's work

Thanks man) I'm working on the mod with Arsenal 26

clear lodge Mar 11, 2021, 12:03 PM

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Honestly the best mod

zealous wing Mar 11, 2021, 12:20 PM

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tame mulch helicopter style 🙂

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-blasphemy-warhammer-40k-gif-18801619

Tenor

main lion Mar 11, 2021, 12:37 PM

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LVOA-C

sour island Mar 11, 2021, 12:48 PM

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Looking good

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Do you have an album on imgur or some such?

main lion Mar 11, 2021, 12:54 PM

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Nope I'm only posting on Discord..

fallow bridge Mar 11, 2021, 1:02 PM

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main lion LVOA-C

Aren’t lvoa, usually green to black?

low yarrow Mar 11, 2021, 1:21 PM

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Nope, its no "Fiskars". Its a "Rancher" 😄

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main lion Mar 11, 2021, 1:25 PM

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fallow bridge Aren’t lvoa, usually green to black?

hmm maybe black?

fallow bridge Mar 11, 2021, 1:25 PM

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Idr

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Up to you man your the cool gun guy

main lion Mar 11, 2021, 1:28 PM

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fallow bridge Idr

Thanks!

little kraken Mar 11, 2021, 1:29 PM

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Brita, is bayonet still not compatible with suppressor?

opaque fiber Mar 11, 2021, 1:30 PM

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main lion

this looks amazing 👍

main lion Mar 11, 2021, 1:44 PM

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little kraken Brita, is bayonet still not compatible with suppressor?

lol suppressor with bayonet..

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Only one of the two can be installed

craggy furnace Mar 11, 2021, 6:23 PM

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dont bother

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its being torn out

zealous wing Mar 11, 2021, 6:24 PM

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Scripts for items, weapons, etc. is in Steam/steamapps/common/ProjectZomboid/media/scripts if you want to waste your time.

fallow bridge Mar 11, 2021, 6:24 PM

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Y’all are talkin bout B42 right

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Cause there’s the firearm rework in there?

quasi ginkgo Mar 11, 2021, 6:28 PM

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He's

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Yes *

quasi ginkgo Mar 11, 2021, 6:29 PM

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craggy furnace its being torn out

He's pretty much done

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And I don't think B42 is coming anytime soon

sonic flame Mar 11, 2021, 6:38 PM

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is it possible to patch the map? Like adding objects to the game world without having to replace it entirely?

willow estuary Mar 11, 2021, 6:39 PM

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Yes, but not really a beginner level project?

sonic flame Mar 11, 2021, 6:39 PM

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eh I can learn and it would start out relatively small

quasi ginkgo Mar 11, 2021, 6:39 PM

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?

sonic flame Mar 11, 2021, 6:40 PM

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I've wanted street signs in this game for as long as I've played, and I figured I could start with dotting the highways with numbered signs

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because adding individual street signs (with the functionality I want) is a much bigger project

quasi ginkgo Mar 11, 2021, 6:40 PM

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Good start, definetly not gonna help much but it will show you the basics of the program

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It's kind of like the GECK

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Hard to use at first