mod_development

[fallow bridge]

Aza wtf are those

Wings?

[abstract raptor]

they almost are

seems like I can get them to go everwhere except on the back 😭

[olive axle]

Are they just not centered properly when they were originally created?

[abstract raptor]

I have no fucking clue

I keep messing around but

they just keep getting further away no matter what direction I rotate or move them

this is driving me insane

[quasi ginkgo]

This is what you did to us

With your 10x10 office map

The devil always loses

[abstract raptor]

so close...

[olive axle]

zy

The wings fly away

[abstract raptor]

man

[abstract raptor]

[grizzled grove]

do you not have a character to place against in blender?

also be sure that you're applying transforms

[grizzled grove]

yay 😄

[late hound]

Great!

[abstract raptor]

they don't look so great from the back

[abstract raptor]

attached on spine1 vs attached as a backpack

[nimble spoke]

doesn't it move a little when it is attached as backpack? I don't know how that's handled for the backpacks

[abstract raptor]

the backpack version makes them horizontal but they come out of the appropriate spot on the back

[nimble spoke]

you can always tweak the model to find the best spot.... and angle too

[nimble spoke]

We don't have the character model. Blender can't import it

also, static models use the 0 0 0 point of origin and then get attached to the bone of choice in game

[abstract raptor]

I dunno

I tweaked and tweaked and tweaked but I can't get them to meet at the shoulder blades

I'm giving up on this for the rest of the day lol

[nimble spoke]

maybe you're using the wrong bone

I know there's left and right for torso animations, but I think there's one in the middle too

Are you using Spine? If so, try Spine1

[abstract raptor]

I was using spine1

Spine puts it closer to the waist

Might need to figure out a custom spot to put it if thats even possible.

[nimble spoke]

can you post a screenshot from the back?

[abstract raptor]

Im currently afk

But thats what it looks like from the back connected to spine1

[nimble spoke]

are they coming out of the shoulders?

[abstract raptor]

Yep :/

[nimble spoke]

just move the model in blender a little, in edit mode

[abstract raptor]

I tried that

[olive axle]

Oh shame it couldnt be easy

[abstract raptor]

Yeah ill take another wack it

I worked on this for like 5 hours today lol

[nimble spoke]

I know the feeling, tweaking these things can take forever to get just right

specially when for some crazy reason you think it is done, close blender, and then you have to import again, fix all import bugs and resume work lol

[grizzled grove]

you guys have been doing all these clothing models totally blind?

[nimble spoke]

kinda yeah, most of mine are modified from an existing model so they're never far off in terms for placement, and size doesn't get screwed

[grizzled grove]

oh ok. was going to say that i was able to get this via some demo software, so it bungles the geo on purpose

but i don't have a proper bind pose for the joints

[nimble spoke]

there was a guy around here, nurver I think that was trying to convert the models, but he couldn't figure out a way to convert armature correctly

if you can get the armature right and working it would be awesome, because I think that's all we need to make skinned models properly

[grizzled grove]

wasn't exporting skinned geo also a problem?

[nimble spoke]

I don't know, because I can;t ever get my hands on them anyway

[grizzled grove]

i need to get back to work, i can play with it more later. I'm using PolyTrans here btw

[nimble spoke]

thank you for trying

[grizzled grove]

I found a maya plugin but for 2016

[nimble spoke]

blender fails to import that fbx for me

[cunning canyon]

“Will in blend?!”

No 😔

[grizzled grove]

gives an error, or it imports incorrectly?

[nimble spoke]

no error, just imports nothing at all

FBX importing is kinda problematic in blender too

at least from the vehicle models

[grizzled grove]

just tried this one in blender 2.8something, but it's teeny tiny

[nimble spoke]

I'll need to download a more recent blender version then

2.75 doesn't import anything

could you try to use it in place of the original just to see what happens?

[grizzled grove]

in place of what original?

[nimble spoke]

the male model

ohhh you'd have to convert it back to x

[grizzled grove]

oh, in game? yeah that, no

i'm not actually interested in modding clothes just yet, just thought i'd try to give the rest of you a leg up if i could

[fallow bridge]

@nimble spoke your gonna be making modded clothes?

[nimble spoke]

I already have a clothes mod on steam

[fallow bridge]

Oh yeahhhhh

[nimble spoke]

awww shit, I downloaded blender 2.91 and it can import the model, but that version of blender doesn't export to X

[grizzled grove]

ain't it grand?

[willow estuary]

I like how there's this blender version minigame as part of making models for games.

[nimble spoke]

yeah, I have 3 versions installed now

X format is such a pain in the ass

importing and exporting starcraft 2's own M3 format with a community plugin wasn't this hard

[grizzled grove]

seems that way for maya too, all i can find are antique plugins

I'm holding out for AnimZed though, I don't have time for the low level nonsense for a pair of pants these days

TIS had that blog post recently-ish showing their woes trying to support blender, I'm a bit worried they'll overtune their fbx handling for blender and inadvertently break maya-based fbx files

[nimble spoke]

I guess I'll have to test as fbx

setting up a test

it WORKS!!!!!!

Amazing! I guess I'll test skinning stuff tomorrow to see how it goes

[abstract raptor]

hi uwu

[shrewd grove]

if i didnt have my semi truck project, like 200 math tests and online school id pick around aswell with that model, but still great to see people figuring it out

[abstract raptor]

can anyone hewp me pwetty pwease fix my wings uwu

jk, I just got back home bout to start the headache all over again

thanks blender

[grizzled grove]

are you saying that goofy fbx i gave you works in-game with skinning?

[nimble spoke]

yes, it animates as it should

[grizzled grove]

sweeet

i'll work on getting the rest pose for sure. It looks like it's stored in the skin data, so i should be able to swing it. (in theory)

[nimble spoke]

I'll record it, just one sec

[shrewd grove]

wait soul, you're saying it animates clothes properly?

[nimble spoke]

I used it as the hazmat suit model just for the test

[abstract raptor]

spooky

[nimble spoke]

Looks like we can just use that as a base for setting the bone weights and all that is needed for skinned clothes

[abstract raptor]

what way would I have to rotate this to get the wings a little less horizontal do you think?

[shrewd grove]

so in theory custom clothes are now possible

[nimble spoke]

first you need to find the front of it, look from the left side and rotate clockwise

don't rotate the camera though

select the view option

[nimble spoke]

they are! thanks to throttlekitty

[grizzled grove]

cool stuff! and yeah, copying skin weights is usually a breeze

[shrewd grove]

so if thats the case...

i better not start more projects.

ill resist for now.

[nimble spoke]

I need something as a first test

[willow estuary]

😛

[abstract raptor]

I'm really tempted to say "good enough" here...

It's better than being attached to the shoulders lol

how can you fly with wings on your shoulders XD

[nimble spoke]

If rotation is good just move the model to the front enough to make it touch the body

[abstract raptor]

it literally like refuses

[nimble spoke]

how?

[abstract raptor]

Like, I make an adjustment, it gets further away, I go the other way, it moves to the same place

am I in hell

[nimble spoke]

how's that even possible lol?

[abstract raptor]

sometimes adjustments don't even seem to do anything

[nimble spoke]

I will try it eventually but as a first test I need something simple in terms of bone weights, I think I'll make some kind of shoes

clown shoes!

[willow estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-shoes-clown-shoes-dancing-feet-dancing-shoes-gif-13103963

AHahahaha, JINX

Not that it's surprising that that would be your first choice; but thanks for considering the one clothing item that I have the weird fixation on.

[abstract raptor]

like look BEFORE

after

literally nothing changed even though I moved the model

(and exported obvs)

this model just doesn't wanna touch the character -- Azakaela has cooties I guess

[nimble spoke]

Are you moving it in object mode? it should be in edit mode. Sorry it if is an obvious question but you need to be sure

[abstract raptor]

I have to move it in edit mode? :thonk:

[nimble spoke]

yeah

that's why nothing is changing

[abstract raptor]

ok just tried moving it in edit mode and I'm having the same problem, where it'll refresh but nothing noticably changes

I even moved it super far away

just to see if it would work

but still

I feel like there's some weird shit going on, cuz like even the craziest adjustments I'm making aren't doing jack

[nimble spoke]

you are missing something.... review your steps. Are you sure you're saving the model used there and not a copy?

[abstract raptor]

Yeah, I am overwriting the file in my workshop folder

[nimble spoke]

import -> edit mode -> fix bugs if needed -> object mode -> export

[shrewd grove]

also can recommend a pair of dunlop rubber boots, since they will be alot more interesting in terms of working

[abstract raptor]

I think the file just bugged out or something

[nimble spoke]

I've never seen a model ignore changes like that

but if you have a previous version maybe you should use that

before you moved it in object mode

[abstract raptor]

It was making adjustments earlier, I don';t understand what changed

[grizzled grove]

are there unapplied transforms?

[abstract raptor]

I just restarted blender and it seems to be working now

[nimble spoke]

I think I'll actually make new hair or beard

[abstract raptor]

Just wish I could get this to land in the right spot XD

[nimble spoke]

you will get it right

[shrewd grove]

i think ill have to grab that model and try my hand on some things now

say soul, thinking what im thinking?

[nimble spoke]

go crazy, I'm making a few simple test for today, real attempts to make clothes will start tomorrow

[shrewd grove]

i got something from payday 2 that'll make a return

medic bag.

[abstract raptor]

I THINK WE HAVE A WINNER GUYS

[grizzled grove]

i just realized what you're doing aza. the game parents the mesh to the bone in-game, so it gets the proper rotation then?

[abstract raptor]

soul filcher was right

I was doin' it wrong the whole time

I needed to be in edit mode to make the adjustments

and switch back to object to export

I feel dumb

😄

[shrewd grove]

make sure someone gets a hold of paw low on this discovery

me and that man tried for months to get the animation set for skinned clothing

[grizzled grove]

we're not quite there yet

[nimble spoke]

as I feared, blender fucks up that too on export

[grizzled grove]

i could see this going wrong in a few ways, what happened?

[abstract raptor]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2406150851

[fallow bridge]

now people can RP as demons killing off the masses, nice work! XD

[abstract raptor]

I made it so like

you make the horns or the wings by sacrificing a mirror

but thank you so much @fallow bridge

that was the validation I needed 🥺

[analog saffron]

Can we fly with it? Kappa

[abstract raptor]

no animations for flying yet so no

iz just cosmetic

but the wings act like a backpack

[fallow bridge]

they should have a infinite carryspace

[abstract raptor]

nah just 22

[twilit drift]

how would one change the item area of a clothing item

i.e full head to face

[abstract raptor]

I suppose youd edit the xml

[twilit drift]

how does one allow hats to go over other hats i.e say a hat over a full-hatted item like the NBC hood and a helmet over it

i'm not seeing much in the terms of XMLs

[abstract raptor]

so like I found out the other day, but I closed the file

lemme do some searchin'

[twilit drift]

k thank you

[abstract raptor]

there's this file that sests clothes to be exclusive so textures don't overlap and stuff

tryna remember what it was called rn

[twilit drift]

do you have any idea where it was located in?

i could probably narrow it down if you did

[abstract raptor]

its this mawfucka I'm pretty sure

but like

[twilit drift]

thank you

[abstract raptor]

also if you say looked at a hat

like say

this one right here, in clothing/clothingItems

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> <clothingItem> <m_MaleModel>static\clothes\m_bandana</m_MaleModel> <m_FemaleModel>static\clothes\f_bandana</m_FemaleModel> <m_GUID>0b210a48-3044-4f17-b35a-57d1d119363b</m_GUID> <m_Static>true</m_Static> <m_AllowRandomHue>false</m_AllowRandomHue> <m_AllowRandomTint>false</m_AllowRandomTint> <m_AttachBone>Bip01_Head</m_AttachBone> <m_HatCategory>Group01</m_HatCategory> <m_MasksFolder>media/textures/Clothes/Hat/Masks</m_MasksFolder> <textureChoices>bandanablack</textureChoices> <textureChoices>bandanablue</textureChoices> <textureChoices>bandanared</textureChoices> </clothingItem>

The Hat Category

if you remove that

then it's no longer exclusive

[twilit drift]

alright

[abstract raptor]

I had to do it to figure out how to get my character to wear her hair down while wearing a hat

[twilit drift]

alright thank you

i have gotten what i wanted working to work

it even fits nicely

[abstract raptor]

Screenshot? @twilit drift

[twilit drift]

i just wanted to get a helmet onto the NBC hood, worked pretty well

[abstract raptor]

very nice! Glad I was able to help

[twilit drift]

yeah thank you man

[fallow bridge]

fuck i need to download that mod again

the one with the overlays depending on your condition

[twilit drift]

yeah it reminds me of NMRIH

as in: blood appears on your screen when injured

very good mod

[fallow bridge]

what's it's name again?

[twilit drift]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=533622988

all i've been seeing for the past

7 ingame days is

blood red because

fractured ribs exist

[fallow bridge]

lol

prepare for at least a month too two months of that

might as well just fast forward

[twilit drift]

i'm uh

i'm on 3x day length with wakeful

fast forwarding isn't much of an option

[abstract raptor]

Now I need to learn how to like

make a tail

in blender

[twilit drift]

i mean, you made wings

shouldnt be hard

[abstract raptor]

(I used free models)

[twilit drift]

oh

[abstract raptor]

BUT

it took a lot of fanagaling to get them in game lol

I have yet to make my own model and I will

And once I get the hang of it, I'll know how to put in game way easy

alternatively

I could be lazy and spend money to buy a good model

stimulating the modeling community's economy

XD

here's my first attempt

XD

[grizzled grove]

the maya .x translator i found doesn't seem to work on pz files 😦

But PolyTrans had an option to reset to bind pose before export, as well as not exporting with an animation. So I guess I'm stuck with fixing the model now

fixed the male's polygons, just have to deal with UVs, I'll get Female going tomorrow. (probably the stupidest thing i've done in a while)

[quasi ginkgo]

Epic

[ember geode]

a mod that lets you allow to attach 2 weapons on your bag

[humble kernel]

dayZ intensifies

[drifting ore]

You know what would be pretty pog? a rescue mod where like a heli or something else like a boat you can contact and they can come and rescue

i know that isn't the point of the game being an unescapable hell but it would be neat

[quasi ginkgo]

extremely rare

maybe every day theres a 0.1% chance for this to occur

[drifting ore]

or a higher chance for a heli to rescue you during the helicopter event?

even tho it's best to let the helicopter not see you at all cost anyhow

[quasi ginkgo]

I doubt that

the heli attracts zeds

[drifting ore]

yeah and it follows you if it sees you

[quasi ginkgo]

I doubt someone with two braincells will try to rescue you

[quasi ginkgo]

to record for news

[drifting ore]

maybe it's mentioned on tv?

well we dont know if its a news helicopter or a military one so idk

[quasi ginkgo]

It's pretty obvious a news helicopter

the military one makes less sense

the news one makes sense

[drifting ore]

they both still make sense

or y'know news one is sent out by the military or something

[quasi ginkgo]

news reporters will do anything to get footage of a survivor inside the knox event zone

[quasi ginkgo]

makes no sense

the military is trying to hide it

[drifting ore]

what is there to hide?

[quasi ginkgo]

the zombies

[drifting ore]

besides i dont think they'll just let a random news chopper out in the zone

[quasi ginkgo]

if people saw that's inside the exclusion zone

they will go nuts

[quasi ginkgo]

who said they will let it inside?

[drifting ore]

is it known by the public tho?

[quasi ginkgo]

they didn't know about the zombies

they knew it was an infection

[drifting ore]

if you watch the news ingame there are riots and panic and shid

[quasi ginkgo]

this is after a photo of a man in west point gets leaked

ask anyone in #pz_b42_chat

[drifting ore]

what photo of a man

[quasi ginkgo]

read the lore

[drifting ore]

thought there was barely in lore in the first place

[quasi ginkgo]

there is

its actually pretty good

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Knox_Event

[drifting ore]

thats pretty epic ngl 😳

doesnt seem like alot tho

[quasi ginkgo]

its not too much

its there for the people who want it

[nimble spoke]

I still have to give it some tests and try a few things to fix it. I'll report later today. I suspect one issue might be that blender uses 2011 version of FBX and zomboid doesn't accept that format, I think it uses 2013 and more recent

don't need to convert animations, those are in separate files. armature with t-pose would be enough

But I really think that going with FBX instead of X is the right approach

[nimble spoke]

I tried converting the model through Autodesk/s FBX converter but it says the file is corrupted. I can convert the model I exported through blender to ascii format, but I have nothing to compare it to

[grizzled grove]

I'll take a closer look at blender once I get this model fix done. Blender has that paradigm of the armature always(?) being it's own hierarchy, and that might be a problem too. Also if you get a chance, how are you swapping pz's .X models with fbx, so I can also do game testing on my end?

[nimble spoke]

In my own experience armature isn't always its own hierarchy. You don't really have to do anything to use FBX instead of X, the game checks for both extensions when you define a model for clothing

I'm not sure overriding will work though, you have to change the xml file and use a new model name

[quasi ginkgo]

any mod recommendations?

gonan start a new playthrough

[grizzled grove]

ok so here's what I guess i'll call a "proper" base male body v1_final_final for now.
I ran into a a bit of a snag, I noticed when i export from polytrans in Bind Pose with no animation, the joint orients are totally different from the export with straight animation. For example, the spine/neck/head joints in the BP version use Y for up, but in the Anim version, X is up for those.

I can't say for certain which is correct, it could be a quirk from polytrans. But when I tried to pull the matrices data manually from the .X into maya, they're equally wrong. I'd expect skinned geo to work fine, but this may need to be adjusted if it's incorrect for animations. (or wait/ask TIS for a proper fbx from 3dsmax)

Also, from those of you that have already done clothing mods, is this at the correct scale?

[grizzled grove]

the head edit is intentional, i'm replacing the default male body. however, joint orients are definitely jacked up, and i can't move.

[shrewd grove]

yeah, this is big brain time

definitely looks like its working

[grizzled grove]

it's also interesting, since the head joint was one that i manually fixed because i thought it was wrong. So I guess their skeleton is just borked.

but I gotta stop here for now

oh, looks like PZ uses FBX version 2014/2015, doesn't look like Blender has any version option, at least in the copy i'm using.

[abstract raptor]

this image is cursed af

[abstract raptor]

"k-kill... me...."

[grizzled grove]

also the mesh needs to be a single entry, so i've combined the skirt back and exported as 2014

[nimble spoke]

blender only uses 2011 version, I tried using autodesk's fbx converter but it only covers up to 2013

it said the model was corrupted anywya and couldn't convert

[severe ridge]

isnt it ASCII?

[nimble spoke]

nope

[late hound]

That brings "cursed" to a whole new level

[nimble spoke]

this model doesn't work for me

so weird

something needs to be reverted to your first model, that one animated just fine

[grizzled grove]

doesn't work in blender?

this is the bigbrain dude i was using for the first game test

[nimble spoke]

doesn't work in game, doesn't even show up

if you think that was disturbing

this one works, and only the head is out of place

obviously I made it so the clothing item doesn't replace body parts lol

[abstract raptor]

.....................................................

[chrome zealot]

maybe it's just me but ever since b41 beta hit i've seen such a big influx of cool mods

[plucky nova]

yeah me too, i guess its just more people playing and making mods?

idk

[severe ridge]

im still playing ninja, with zombies :l

[nimble spoke]

now the resulting FBX from blender can be converted by autodesk's FBX converter, but still won't show in game. But at least now I got an ascii model

[hollow shadow]

Yall making some weird shit, wish i got time to work on my scrap stuff again, can yall make some kind of monster creatures in the meantime xD

[nimble spoke]

If anyone wants to take a look at the ASCII version of the model here it is. there's some weird shading going on, but it still shows in game. I will try to compare with whatever blender spits out and try to figure why one works and the other doesn't.

[fallow bridge]

it's probably because they have more of a range of what they can do. with animations and clothing and what not

plus some other things

[plucky nova]

true

[fallow bridge]

fuck me making this edited hawaiian shirt into it's own shirt type is fucking agony

i don't understand any of it

XD

i've got this going but i don't know what to do with it

[nimble spoke]

you need to create a new ClothingItem = for it, it is a sml file that goes in clothing/clothingitems

xml

[fallow bridge]

uhhh

no clue where that is

and this guide i've got open speaks gibberish to me

[nimble spoke]

open pz folder, go to media/clothing/xlothingitems/ copy shirt_hawaiianTINT.xml to your mod and edit

[fallow bridge]

don't even have a mod folder set up

i know nothing about this

and i'm not trying to swap the hawaiian shirt, i'm trying to add another shirt entirely

[nimble spoke]

uuuhhhhh, maybe take several steps back and find a guide for that then

[fallow bridge]

i have the guide for it open

and i don't understand ANY of it

[nimble spoke]

first you need to know how to set up a mod

[fallow bridge]

https://github.com/FWolfe/Zomboid-Modding-Guide this is a good guide right

i'm guessing it's good as it's from Fwolfe

[zealous wing]

I need ice cream flavors.

For something I'm making.

Taking any and all suggestions.

https://tenor.com/view/little-babys-ice-cream-creepy-gif-8059312

[late hound]

@fallow bridge I wrote the tutorial there on custom clothing. Follow it and you'll get it.

[fallow bridge]

@late hound yeah i was looking at it and was totally lost

when i say i know nothing about pz modding

i mean i'm fucking blind when it comes to it

exploring the files i can do

but making the files and understanding them

fuck no

[nimble spoke]

understanding can come from a lot of exploring

[fallow bridge]

true

but so far i haven't seen any mods add a custom shirt via just renaming and adding it's own variation of a vanilla shirt

so far it's either been retextures or full new clothing

from what i know

i'm sorry i'm terrible at this shit

must be fucking migraine inducing dealing with me

[late hound]

Well I don't think any of us fully understood the PZ filetypes and terminology when we started. It took lots of patience and troubleshooting to learn and understand the intricate rules of the engine and code.

[torn stream]

Is there any vehicle mod tutorial out there btw? I think I saw one once but can't find it now

Thx in advance

[twilit drift]

@zealous wing do bubblegum icecream

[hoary pelican]

hmmm what kinda energy drinks were around in the early 90s

[abstract raptor]

there weren't really

I lived in the 90s as a kid

[olive axle]

I wished I was born in the 90s so I was actually far away from the current gen

My brothers only 4 years younger and they think completely different, and they confuse me

[fallow bridge]

The only younger sibling I understand is my younger sister and that’s because I raised her so she imprinted off of me @olive axle

[olive axle]

Fair nuff

[fallow bridge]

My younger brother made me so confused I used to get mad

[olive axle]

oooo

Whatchu makin blair

[olive axle]

ooo big bins, the models pretty nice too

[muted grail]

is there already a DBZ clothing mod? I need it to become Super Saiyan

[cunning canyon]

um excuse me wtf

😂

[grizzled grove]

what? just a guy hanging out.

[cunning canyon]

just chillin my man

wat u starin at

[fallow bridge]

nobodies made a real joke mod yet

closest we have is a few texture edits and paw low loots fantasy pack

[olive axle]

Make the joints real busted

[nimble spoke]

Because we try to pass our joke mods as serious mods.... and nobody noticed

[olive axle]

Absolute jammin hat

[grizzled grove]

mmk, i'm totally stumped here. continuing on from yesterday with the skinned model stuff

there were some weirdnesses in the skeleton, so i rebuilt it all with what i assume should be proper transforms for now, but the game doesn't load this fbx at all. I can't find the difference from what I had working yesterday

[nimble spoke]

It's all dark magic... the model looked fine with the exception of the head of course

yesterday I spent some time trying to figure out what exactly breaks the model after going through blender

[grizzled grove]

oh, i think i found the difference. I had pushed rotation to joint orient, and i'm going to guess that's no bueno in pz

breaks, like a pile of poly soup on the floor?

[nimble spoke]

no, breaks like won't show up

[olive axle]

Yummy

[nimble spoke]

one thing I noticed is that blender recalculates the normals using a different method, it was easy to compare in ascii

but that's not the only difference

[grizzled grove]

all the 3d programs do, it's annoying actually.

[nimble spoke]

things I need to figure out in export settings: Axis, scale, what to include and what not to include in the file

[grizzled grove]

I suspect they use Z up, but i haven't gotten that far yet. I can help you get the rest sorted once I figure this stuff out on my end

[shrewd grove]

clothing defaults to Z up. if thats useful at all

[grizzled grove]

strange, using Y or Z up on export seems to do nothing?

[nimble spoke]

maybe -Z up?

and which one would be front?

forward, whatever that's called

should I apply transforms on export?

I'll export Z up and -Y forward now

looks like I got it right this time

[nimble spoke]

Hooray! I fixed the beldner model enough to make it appear!

[grizzled grove]

nice!

I'm still stuck with a flipped spine and walking parallel to the ground. it's weirding me out that nothing that i'm changing is having any positive effect

[abstract raptor]

that's horrifying

[shrewd grove]

first trailer for my project is basically complete now

[nimble spoke]

but you got it right before, what happened?

[grizzled grove]

i never did

[nimble spoke]

What? Your model works for me, just the edited big head is wrong

[grizzled grove]

only difference today is the corrected head orientation 🙂

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/232196827577974784/814265272588304384/unknown.png

[nimble spoke]

awwww shit

[grizzled grove]

so i'm wondering how you got yours standing upright

[nimble spoke]

are you replacing malebody? I'm actually using it in a clothing item

[grizzled grove]

i am replacing malebody

[nimble spoke]

maybe that's why we have different results?

[grizzled grove]

must be

oh, the other difference today is that i can now walk around

turns out that the base bodies need a node called "Translation_Data"

[nimble spoke]

Do you want the file to make a quick test with clothes?

[grizzled grove]

yeah that'd be great

[nimble spoke]

Here, replace the model, and spawn a hazmat suit

[grizzled grove]

thanks! uhh noob me wants to know how to quickly spawn one

[nimble spoke]

I use the necroforge mod, or the debug launch option, it has an item spawner too

[grizzled grove]

aaa this is great

i noticed in the character setup before play starts that the females get broken by having a broken male in the folder somehow

[nimble spoke]

You just made a swim mod

[short forge]

Where do i find the files for world tiles

[grizzled grove]

if you're talking about sprites for mapping, it's in the workshop tools

well cool

[short forge]

Where are the workshop tools

[abstract raptor]

does he lift? 👀

[abstract raptor]

From there, you'll find all the tiles in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Project Zomboid Modding Tools\Tiles

[grizzled grove]

what's interesting is that the skirt part of the mesh isn't visible there. But the game has some sort of masking system in play, doesn't it?

[short forge]

Oh ok

[abstract raptor]

So, ya'll know that really cool VHS tapes mod?

I was thinking about makin' an expansion for it that was compatible with Survivor Radio, and also just adding in a bunch of movies. Like remember how Survivor Radio used to have "The Big Lebowski" and "Pulp Fiction" in it?

[grizzled grove]

not a bad idea 🙂

[abstract raptor]

It looks like it calls to the Broadcast keys; so I tried swappin' one of these values with one of my own from my own radio xml file, however, when I inserted the tape, it didn't work :/

[wicked yacht]

I vaguely remember seeing a tutorial shared in here on adding mod options to the options screen. I think it was done in a way that didn't require overriding any base files? Anyone know what I'm talking about?

[short forge]

interesting

[grizzled grove]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2169435993&searchtext=mod+options
this?

[short forge]

anyone know where this dirt barrier is under? i cant find it under either fences or bushes which is what its surrounded by

[abstract raptor]

never seen that before

[grizzled grove]

fencing

[short forge]

it doesnt exist in either the fencing or fencing burnt tiles

[grizzled grove]

aza. more cursed coming your way

[wicked yacht]

I don't think so?

[short forge]

i think it might be under vegetation walls but for some reason i dont have that file

[grizzled grove]

there are tiles the game has but the editor doesn't

[short forge]

bruh moment

[grizzled grove]

better chat for #mapping channel btw

[nimble spoke]

Yeah, the transparecny in the texture

[grizzled grove]

idk how to work blender, doing even basic shit is infuriating

if i could somehow rotate the model by 90 degrees and keep the skinning...

anyway, if you can fix that, this should be a functional base for blender for you guys. that video is me testing the output straight from blender, just that the mesh sits funny when i imported it

[nimble spoke]

hhmmmm weird. I'll try to adjust it, but the model will never be the same again. I've copied over huge chunks of your file just trying to get a better result in game but so far it is a mess

[nimble spoke]

It will probably make it worse

[nimble spoke]

Again, how? I'm baffled, the big head version appears correct when I import it

[abstract raptor]

hm I'm so stumped right now

[grizzled grove]

oh

i exported this as Y up from maya

[abstract raptor]

theoretically, all I should have to do is like change out this broadcast line. I wonder if for some reason it only pulls from RadioData.xml and not other radio xml files

[grizzled grove]

actually SF, let's take this private and not clog the channel

[nimble spoke]

yeah

[grizzled grove]

ok so yay

skinned models working out of maya, sounds like Soul Ficher has it working from Blender now

[late hound]

I don't think you guys were clogging the channel. It's interesting how you guys were approaching this problem of importing/exporting the rig into Blender and such. It's something I was aiming to solve too.

[grizzled grove]

i realized we had reached the point of "try x", "try x and y", "try x and y and z", try "x and z"... etc

[shrewd grove]

if you guys need me to, i can try to shit out a jacket on a model to test this out

my talent is dumping models out that are of average quality

[nimble spoke]

We got it working

[shrewd grove]

that model is unbelievably cursed, but god damn thats amazing to see it working

i remember i tried this before months ago, and managed to get down to the rigging bones. that was it.

[nimble spoke]

There's a weird texture/lighting/transparency glitch that needs to be fixed but that's it

[shrewd grove]

so this is working for singular clothing items aswell, such as just pants etc, not just full body items?

[grizzled grove]

and here's mine

[nimble spoke]

I will test that

[late hound]

Thats epic @grizzled grove

[grizzled grove]

SF, that lighting is strangely alluring

[nimble spoke]

but I don't see why they wouldn't work

[shrewd grove]

need a model to test it with soul, or are you gonna just distort the hell outta some base clothes?

[nimble spoke]

I'm just going to attach some cubes to the hands or whatever and make it an item

[shrewd grove]

makes sense

[nimble spoke]

then we can start brainstorming

I want 90s shoulder pads lol

[shrewd grove]

also, regarding the lighting, idk if you guys have tested ir or not, or if im just pouring a cup of water into the ocean, but check the normals and make sure they're correct.

[nimble spoke]

yeah, I think that the glitch comes from e not copying over the edited nromals

[abstract raptor]

ugh I wanna throw this computer out the window

[shrewd grove]

cause you and throttle have been testing this for days now and i dont wanna be throwin around shit y'all already did

[abstract raptor]

wish I could get a hold of Tiax and figure out why I can't add new broadcast keys

[shrewd grove]

on the same token aswell, wrong normals would sometimes make textures invisible.

so, it could or could not be that

[nimble spoke]

I'm testing that right now

[shrewd grove]

will say, no matter what it is, its still a huge breakthrough on the clothing modding

[grizzled grove]

where pawlow at

[shrewd grove]

working i think

[nimble spoke]

yeah, updating the normals fixed it

[shrewd grove]

haha

[nimble spoke]

Now I'm going to test the cubes

[shrewd grove]

probably do some rectangles aswell to see if they move properly?

[nimble spoke]

yeah

rectangle arms

[shrewd grove]

cause im wondering for the models for clothing if they move based on the model below, or the mesh its put to for the clothing

[late hound]

xD

[shrewd grove]

well thats that question

lmfao

throttle, i need to see that hold a gun

i need some laughs

[grizzled grove]

uvs are wrong for that texture 🙂

[shrewd grove]

more than likely, the UV for the clothing needs to overlap the existing player UV.

[nimble spoke]

I think all skinned models just use the base bones just like body models

[grizzled grove]

^

[shrewd grove]

so technically, any amount of faces then should work for clothing

be it 200 or 2000

[grizzled grove]

here's the silly cube versionif you want to play with it

media\models_X\Skinned\Clothes\

[nimble spoke]

in theory yeah, all you need is to respect the base body armature

[shrewd grove]

wait, yall got FBX clothing models working?

[grizzled grove]

i don't know if you need to hide the .x version of the model or not, but i did

[nimble spoke]

game sues x or fbx, it doesn't really matter

uses

the catch was to convert a body properly so we have it as a base

[shrewd grove]

soul, mind dm'ing me the base thingy you guys are using so i can make up a test model?

i gotta dip my toes down into this water

[shrewd grove]

that'll convert fine into blender throttle?

[grizzled grove]

and this is the z up version, this is what i export from maya to pz

[nimble spoke]

I'll send the ASCII version in case you want to follow my copy/paste method of fixing it, because blender will screw up that

[shrewd grove]

somethin seems off yikes

[grizzled grove]

blender joints are so oogly

[shrewd grove]

they dont seem correctly placed

[grizzled grove]

it's possible. i know on my end in maya, they're correct.

[nimble spoke]

Here is ASCII version. What I did to get my model working was to convert it to ASCII too and then copy mesh, vertex, edge, normals into that file

using autodesk's FBX converter

[shrewd grove]

hmmm, my blender all of a sudden doesnt support ASCII

[nimble spoke]

it doesn't

iport the binary version

then later use the ascii version to fix your model

[shrewd grove]

oh, i get what you're saying now

winded up here back in binary form

so when im done, convert it through the format back to ASCII?

[nimble spoke]

edit, export using Z up and X forward, convert to ascii, copy stuff over

I can send a screenshot of what exactly needs to be copied

[shrewd grove]

so by edit, you mean create a piece of clothing, correct?

im making sure i do it right so i dont create a fuckin mess lmao

also, @grizzled grove on crosschecking these models on eachother, my blender imported that maya one completely fine.

[nimble spoke]

yeah, create in the same mesh, don't create a new one or I won't know what you will need to copy later

[shrewd grove]

so throttle, what ways do i export yours out?

im testing yours since it seems to be complete for me

[grizzled grove]

I suspect that blender users won't need to do the copypaste ascii thing, I was able to get a crappy version exported to the game straight from blender, but i don't know blender well enough to try to fix it

#mod_development message
despite the name, this linked file is a different copy with bad skin weights, but it (kinda) works in-game. So maybe you guys can brainstorm over that one a bit

i'll work on getting the female body base tomorrow btw, gotta run now

[shrewd grove]

currently checkin out to see if my edits worked or not

if it did, i have an idea on how to make singular clothing items.

[nimble spoke]

I compared throttle's file and the resulting blender file in ascii and I think it was easier to fix everything by copying, but hey, if you feel you don't need it I'm ok with that

[shrewd grove]

well, im already loadin up the model ingame to check it around

haha

that went as well as i expected it to 😄

i think until the systems refined down ill let you guys pick with it

when it comes down to editing and picking with files, its not exactly my strong suit

[nimble spoke]

did you go with just using the resulting blender file?

[shrewd grove]

yeah

and exported it out with the proper orenitation, just invisible

[nimble spoke]

yeah, that's what I get even if I don't touch the model I imported, not your fault

let me finish my tests here with my method

[shrewd grove]

yeah no worries

it be a whole lot simplier if they had given us animzed 😛

[nimble spoke]

since when we wait for official support? lol

[shrewd grove]

never hehe

on a side note, it appears that custom clothing DOES work for tearing

i tore cube man 😦

but he did show the proper clothing underneath

probably be hopping off for the night aswell, been up since 7 am, had 6 online school classes and then finished modding my semi truck along with starting a box trailer

im mentally gone atm lmao

[nimble spoke]

I know the feeling

tomorrow I'll have some results to show, I think

[shrewd grove]

just my 2 cents, but i think for jackets it has a special tag to show the characters model

same with all clothing that isnt full body

probably something related to the masks

the hazmat occupies these

while the jacket does not.

so, i think in order to show the model, you gotta have the right sections loaded.

[nimble spoke]

yeah, I already checked that 4 and 6 are the hands

[short forge]

Yeah i actually discovered that a couple days ago too lol

The masks hide certain parts under the clothing i think

I got rid of the masks on the clothing that made like for instance arms invisible and it worked

How hard is it to make this into an item that can actually be picked up?

[abstract raptor]

one sec I know how to do that

just working on something else right now

I think you need to define it as a movable

[short forge]

I did

The thing is there isnt an item named it i think is the problem

[abstract raptor]

But then you might also need to add it into the scripts

and make sure it has a name and a group name etc

[nimble spoke]

yeah, tiledefinitions

Now I just need to figure if weights are wrong or I need to copy something else to fix it

[short forge]

yess it works

[eternal garnet]

Anyone taking mod commissions (paying) for custom models in game

[fallow bridge]

Hey quick question, how difficult would t be to make a mod that uses clothing system (hoodies up/down and hats backwards/forwards) for clothing? I already know I could never do it but perhaps if it’s fairly easy I’d be willing to (once I get the funds) pay someone to make a mod that makes it so almost every long sleeved piece of clothing could have folded sleeves

[muted grail]

well, if you gonna pay somebody, let them also integrate a keybottun for put the hoodie off/on.

[fallow bridge]

I first need to know if it’s easy or not

If it won’t work I ain’t paying shit

[muted grail]

i think you can do it, if you believe in yourself and with the power of friendship

https://tenor.com/view/special-friend-special-youre-my-special-friend-gif-12679386

but, i have no clue if its easy or not. but i hope the mod will come

[plucky nova]

bro, @craggy furnace is already making that mod

[craggy furnace]

yes

[plucky nova]

also, while im here, anyone know if there is a way to increase player speed on the fly? like in game, whenever

because i have a mod idea

(not like i can even make it but whatever lol)

[fallow bridge]

So he’s making it so almost ALL VANILLA CLOTHES have the ability of folding their sleeves? Or is it just his mods clothes

[plucky nova]

oh, actually, im not sure

ask him!

[sour island]

Is it me or do some clothes have color masks while others do not?

(colored on the fly, where the default assets are white or black)

[fast girder]

So, I've looted every police station in the world, but i want full rogue set or hecu (pawlow loot), any idea where they are located ?

[fallow bridge]

You might be referring to the TINT clothes which are just the clothing you can color

Like pink T-shirt and shit

They usually have a white texture

[sour island]

You have to have a white (or black) texture for color blending to be effective.

I noticed some items appeared to do this- but I also noticed there's like 8 shirt icons in the .pack files

[nimble spoke]

those are not tinted, they have variations, like the lumberjack shirt

or is it the lumberjack shirt? I don't remember

[sour island]

Yeah I was wondering why

I assume it's more expensive to color on the fly, but then you'd have unlimited colors

I used to work on a proof of concept where all the assets were white. The concept involved building objects using different materials (metals) that could be mixed.

Metals were given rgba defines

While something like that would be overkill for Zomboid, I was curious for things like mugs that are all blue - how much work would it take to have them initialize off a set of colors.

I stayed away from textures and models in most of my mods.

[nimble spoke]

with tint you don't have control over which colors spawn. Not all clothes should work like that

[sour island]

Not all clothes should, but solid colored clothes would look fine?

[nimble spoke]

yeah, but are there any solid color clothes that don't have a tinted version?

[sour island]

Are they being blended on the fly?

Cause their item icons suggests not

[main lion]

new firearms!

[nimble spoke]

What do you mean?

[sour island]

The icons in pack are colored

Not white

[eternal garnet]

If anyone knows how to put custom clothes in game, hit me up, commission of $100 for the job

[nimble spoke]

Yeah, some like Sweater have colors

[sour island]

And if their textures are colored when packaged too this makes them not colored "on the fly"

[nimble spoke]

Sweater receive tint even though their textures are colored

[sour island]

Just to clarify, there's a texture for each color of sweater and then there is a "tint" applied during game too?

That seems like the least effective approach if true

[nimble spoke]

they are separate items

sometimes you want to control which version will spawn in a zombie

[chrome zealot]

can’t you just learn to do it yourself for $0?

[eternal garnet]

I have projects myself that I am already doing that is taking up most of my time and, it's my money, I can choose how I want to spend it.

[chrome zealot]

very steep for some custom clothes, that’s all i’m saying

[eternal garnet]

I'd rather go high than go low.
It catches the eye as well.

[sour island]

@nimble spoke but wouldn't the overhead be the same if you just colored it from the getgo and not having multiple icons/textures?

That's the thing I'm curious about

[nimble spoke]

Not if you plan to control how they spawn in zombies. There are cases where an item could have multiple colors instead of being separate items for each colors, but that way you can't spawn a zombie all in red, or all blue sports wear for example. It all depends on how you want the zombies to look like

[sour island]

Not sure what you mean by this? Colored items could be any color you want?

[nimble spoke]

For example a tinted tie can spawn as black, but I can't use the tinted tie in an outfit I want to add because it must always be black, so I need a separate item that is always black, and I need to add a black icon for it

they are random

[sour island]

Well... they don't have to (should) not be

But thank you for clarifying stuff

I was wondering about this while at work so I couldn't check

[fast girder]

utas uts i guess

[fast girder]

srm 12 16 definitely

[main lion]

yep! UTAS UTS-15 and Model 1216 / 1212

[fast girder]

American soul

[main lion]

Do you have a special shotgun you want?

[jovial summit]

Is it possible to create/edit a trait via mods?

[grizzled grove]

i'm kinda busy, but i could use $100 or so, probably a bit high for a zomboid request, the game is lowpoly with low res textures. Shoot me a pm with what you're looking for if someone else hasn't

[eternal garnet]

Will do

[eternal garnet]

The job is still open to anyone reading as well

[severe ridge]

depends if its applicable to actual limitations 🤔

[abstract raptor]

my script broke cheat menu and the debug item list

I dunno what the issue is exactly

[plucky nova]

Leon Kennedy is very pleased...

[plucky nova]

oh! i know its not a shotgun but can you make a g43?

I LOOOOVE you mod btw, best gun mod out there imo

[severe ridge]

i had a script that was breaking the whole ghost mode lul

[fallow bridge]

Fuck that’s me rn

[severe ridge]

welcome to tee vee em!

[grizzled grove]

yay big progress

today i did:
Processed female body.
Fixed problems with male body and it's skeleton.
Exports working from maya and blender now!

For blender users, import the Y Up versions and let that be the base for your modeling and skin weight copying. I've been exporting as -Z forward, Y Up and it seems to work just fine. That's what's pictured in the female hazmat suit above.
(just wanted to point out there's no need for any conversion or copypaste that Soul Filcher was having to do before, you export as fbx straight to the game now)

Cool stuff aza!

pass that file around to anyone, I don't know who was all doing clothing mods

[abstract raptor]

Pulp Fiction

[ripe basalt]

lets say i wanna get into modding PZ, where do i start?

[nimble spoke]

That's amazing!

[carmine cosmos]

Does anyone know if OnKeyPressed works for joypad buttons?

[shrewd grove]

how does this look for a 26 foot reefer (stubby trailer for anyone wondering)

[ebon dagger]

Looks alright

Like this, yeah?

[shrewd grove]

no

[ebon dagger]

I literally googled 26 foot reefer is that

is that not what that is

[shrewd grove]

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/dark-green-big-rig-day-cab-semi-truck-transporting-cargo-short-trailer-driving-divider-road-classic-popular-powerful-150791208.jpg

like this

[ebon dagger]

Huh

I don't think I've ever seen one of those, that's neat

[shrewd grove]

its not exactly a reefer atm, as its not refrigerated

their used in areas where the deliveries have super small roads

[ebon dagger]

Like rural kentucky! That's neat

[shrewd grove]

im also gonna make the 52 foot version

im just wondering if itll fit in the vehicle editor even

[nimble spoke]

I think it does

[carmine cosmos]

No, I checked, unfortunately it doesn't

Or at least I doubt it because it gets called from GameKeyboard class

[ebon dagger]

Vorpal Weapons looks neat

[ebon dagger]

Are there any mods that add a sharpened shovel? Or an entrenching tool?

[nimble spoke]

New hair and beard are now possible

[plucky nova]

oh shit! nice!

[shrewd grove]

paw low's definitely gonna like this

@severe ridge

[severe ridge]

👀

[shrewd grove]

you thinking what im thinking pawlow?

[severe ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/bananas-in-pajamas-bananas-in-pyjamas-b1-b2-bye-gif-15862280

no

asdfgfghjjkl

[shrewd grove]

holy fuck those bananas bring back memories

[shrewd grove]

i am a professional modder who takes my work very seriously

[ebon dagger]

Mood

I keep my programming homework in files labeled "this fucking shit" and my prof loves it

[severe ridge]

my modding folder is like a hikikomori's room

[fallow bridge]

My trash can is “the secret stash”

[ebon dagger]

Brilliant

[late hound]

♫ Hanging out with my friends ♫

[shrewd grove]

i understand i have bad ideas

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/743283352026611822/815047254984491038/ybb2xn4hs6a61.png

but is this too far for pz

[ebon dagger]

you and the boys

[ebon dagger]

Project zomdrip

[zealous wing]

Some icons I made:

Can you guess the flavors?

[hexed anchor]

bottom one is strawberry?

[zealous wing]

Yiss

[grizzled grove]

https://venetiansnares.bandcamp.com/album/cavalcade-of-glee-and-dadaist-happy-hardcore-pom-poms
workin' music

[zealous wing]

https://tenor.com/view/balancedrip-balance-goku-drip-drip-gif-19930989

[severe ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEEpu_SVbAE

making some experiments :l

[abstract raptor]

yay

[severe ridge]

nothing solid so far 😅

[abstract raptor]

sure was a fuckin' ordeal getting these tapes to spawn lol

[abstract raptor]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2409008507

[severe ridge]

hue

[severe ridge]

so close, yet so far :B

[zealous wing]

Got a question here: Does it look like the lid's off of this tub of ice cream?

A variant:

lid on for comparison:

[grizzled grove]

by comparison it does

there's not a lot of room to play with there. I'd maybe suggest making the ice cream much brighter, and try placing the lid standing up and behind?

[hexed anchor]

I think placing the lid standing up behind it would be the best way to show it's open

[zealous wing]

Improved?

Alternate edit:

[grizzled grove]

yes 🙂

[jovial summit]

The little lean makes it a lot nicer

[zealous wing]

Thanks.

[craggy furnace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIBTsUzPrcQ

[hollow latch]

Hi guys, are there any good mods which expand on the base building aspect? More stuff to build, etc

[zealous wing]

More Build Mod adds some new buildables.

Made some Ice Cream Sandviches:

[hollow latch]

This one? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=515555911

[zealous wing]

Yes.

[hollow latch]

Thanks 🙂

[fast girder]

Chiappa triple crown if you ask me

[severe ridge]

almost 100% people, just need to fix some uv related to the player model and it's good to go. all you need its to group your desired mesh to the specific linked vertex group in the model and remove the vertex groups you're not using.

The only workaround is... You can't delete parents of a vertex group or bone, so you have to hide the necessary parts in the UV, there's probably a better way to do this, but mission accomplished

@grizzled grove luv ❤️

It's some work but now everything is possible

btw, use FBX to this, don't even mind about DirectX wizardry

I'll probably explore and try more stuff before updating anything, no rush :B but we can pretty much use any model right now and link it separately in the player model

Still using old Blender for weapons and such tho 8V lul

[fallow bridge]

Trench gun

[old harbor]

stalker happy noise

[main lion]

and M1897 trench gun is already in mod!

[fallow bridge]

Oh neat

[main lion]

I'll make the g43 a little later..

[fallow bridge]

How about a Six12?

It’s basically a not trash pancor jackhammer

That actually works

[main lion]

I have prepared a picture to make six12

[fallow bridge]

You got a saiga in there as well?

[main lion]

saiga too

and vepr12

[fallow bridge]

Niceee

Hmm

AA12?

[fallow bridge]

Looks hot

[main lion]

thanks)

[fallow bridge]

They also look like vanilla guns almost

Which few people do

@main lion how many guns have you textured/made so far?

[main lion]

for the new update?

[fallow bridge]

For your mod in general

Speaking of your mod what is it called? @main lion

Or will be called

[main lion]

Brita's Weapon Pack

[fallow bridge]

Fuckkkk

I have fps issues with that

[main lion]

Currently, there are about 120 gun variants in the mod.

and There are about 120 ~ 140 new weapons available for the new update.

[severe ridge]

you have fps issues with everything 👀 have you tried to manually allocate memory to the game and/or remove limits for RAM/VRAM use?

i remember i had the same issues when i first started to play skyrim years ago

[drifting ore]

@main lion Same guy who does the nice guns.......nice to meet a gun maker. Anytime you'll be doing a minigun or a nuke or a rpg?

[main lion]

I can make them, but I don't think it fits with vanilla motion ((

[drifting ore]

Ah. So your only a gun maker or?

[zealous wing]

A nuke is waaay too much bullshit for this game.

A man portable minigun is almost as much bullshit.

An RPG or its US equivalent would make marginally more sense for this game. BARELY.

[craggy furnace]

i should finish mine

[drifting ore]

I want to see a town or louisville get nuked.

[craggy furnace]

an M72 makes sense and is very balanced

it gets used and then is worthless

practically a directed pipe bomb

[zealous wing]

Semi-related, but that happens in the Return of the Living Dead.

Louisville actually gets nuked.

IIRC, TIS choosing KY as the setting was mostly inspired by those early zombie movies?

[craggy furnace]

nope

just because its next to fort knox

[zealous wing]

Huh.

Weird they'd fixate on Fort Knox.

😛

[craggy furnace]

its that military area they like

also, the road system there is unique in the US

[severe ridge]

i have a minigun on debug lul

m134

but yeah, i can't see it fitting in the game, i just use it for the luls

[drifting ore]

Too overkill? Hmm.....what if we made a interesting ice sword?

[zealous wing]

A man portable minigun weighs, what? 50 kilos?

[severe ridge]

😆 maybe for fantasy oriented items, but even so, less is more in PZ

mine's around that /hmm, without 6> str its just always burdening

but nobody really carries a m134 ofc

even less a mk19 :p

[craggy furnace]

PZ already has an ice sword

[drifting ore]

what is it? a popsicle?

[main lion]

I'm also making guns and equipment

like gas mask

[severe ridge]

👌

[drifting ore]

What about gauntlets?

[severe ridge]

[main lion]

I haven't tried it yet because I don't know how to handle the bones of 3d tools (

[drifting ore]

Maybe for protection, pawlow makes a spiked gauntlet for the fantasy pack so i can get some pieces together from other mods to make a bad ass Ash williams character.

[main lion]

I don't know how to apply clothes and equipment in-game yet, so I try to focus on the guns..

[main lion]

thanks!

[severe ridge]

Brita's weapons
https://nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/memecreator-cdn/media/__processed__/f62/template-everyone-liked-that-0c6db91aec9c.jpg

[drifting ore]

They look good for a hazmat suit or combat.

[main lion]

I have plans to make multiple gas masks

by referring to my gas mask

like M45, MCU2P

[drifting ore]

What about those paint masks?

[main lion]

I haven't finished that work to release yet ((

[craggy furnace]

@main lion i have an M45 if you require good reference images

[main lion]

oh, I have M45 mask

[craggy furnace]

neat

[craggy furnace]

i thought they only circulated in the US

they are very rare

[main lion]

yep very rare one )

[craggy furnace]

i have an SF10 too

[main lion]

nice!

I have an N10

[craggy furnace]

neat

i want to get a hood for it

[main lion]

Isn't the hood expensive?

This is my N10 mask

[craggy furnace]

it depends on the source

neat

[autumn sierra]

I feel like a sako 85 or a Winchester model 70 would fit the game well, if you need more gun suggestions

There’s a sako 85 in like every zombie game for some reason

[fallow bridge]

I did the first one but i don’t know how to do the second one

[main lion]

oh, I made sako85 last week

Savage Model 12 and Sako 85

[severe ridge]

cute

[autumn sierra]

Dang bro that looks great! Really does look vanilla which is perfect

[main lion]

Thanks man)

[autumn sierra]

Yeah np

[main lion]

yeah, cute and.. very heavy

The first model weighs 5.7 kg

[severe ridge]

my first PZ rigged model (which Filibuster actually made)

[main lion]

Did you rigging work on blender?

[severe ridge]

Yeppers, im using @grizzled grove models and grouping the parts i want to vertex groups related to those bones

[grizzled grove]

nice!

[severe ridge]

still learning lmao

[grizzled grove]

should be able to copy skin weights from the base body in most cases

like boom, done

[severe ridge]

it is

once i set the model for the hierarchy i want to modify

its save and roll

[blazing totem]

@severe ridge + Brita = Zomboid essential mods

[eternal garnet]

Job is still open

Payment: $100
Job description: Adding custom clothes to the game.

[half chasm]

What kind of cloth do you want?

[plucky nova]

agreed

[fast girder]

true

[zealous wing]

I've made a 'pint' sized version of the Ice Cream item for my WIP mod. Thoughts?