mod_development

[willow tulip]

have people login to hunt the enemy. if they score well, they get more resources.. If they don't.... well, they gotta pay to buy more drones.

Either way the army wins while people with low skill get put in a waitlist for the next drone to come online.

(or literally just yaknow, buy the army another drone)

[vast pier]

https://youtu.be/vQDlafCwqws?si=dcQ_3BdS0cF9R1uF&t=372

[willow tulip]

lol "I have this magazine, and this gun, they don't fit but.."

[vast pier]

I think the prototype magazine was lost to time

so he's using a magazine from a different gun that uses the same mechanics

to demonstrate

[willow tulip]

ah.

As far as prototypes go, I kinda like it

does it properly cycle if one section jams? (or easy enough to forward to the next section?)

[vast pier]

I don't think the tab would raise fully if it jams, meaning it wouldn't cycle to the next section until it's unjammed

as the tab fully raises and has a lil arm that latches onto a mechanism to cycle to the next magwell

[willow tulip]

ah k, that kinda sucks

would be nifty if it actually resolved a jam automatically by skipping to the next section

[vast pier]

wouldn't the casing just, still be in the way from it jamming

[willow tulip]

or a failure to feed, a rack also shifting sections

then you'd also see a mag with some rounds left in it and be like "Yep need to replace this mag (or its springs in the ones with a round left over)

I dunno I make cooking mods that stab the people who cook.

[vast pier]

lol

[willow tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/shimoneta-gif-7300652

[vast pier]

I've been working on this one mod for over a year now, and it's only recently become actually functional

[willow tulip]

wanna give me some feedback on mine? lol

I'll do the same for yours if you want.

[vast pier]

I've change the foundation to it repeatedly, and have become much more complex than I initially anticipated

[vast pier]

uhhh your cooking mod ?

[willow tulip]

very interested to hear about other cooking mods

My cooking mod, in gif form:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/908422783049007116/1475644024684548298/Cooking_5.gif?ex=69a0df17&is=699f8d97&hm=36f5cf5d7aedbc45117e822af26dc16a7cdd4a2a2f1c5bd875359d600b22ad6d&

[vast pier]

Neat so it turns the context menus into a gui ?

[willow tulip]

that and rewrites how happyness/boredom/ingredient count/etc works

along with requires a knife, has chance of injury at low skill and (future plan) food poisoning if your filthy when you cook

but id need to rewrite food poisoning to.. yaknow, not kill you.

[vast pier]

I do think it's funny that eating some burnt hamburger is equivalent to drinking bleach

[willow tulip]

it also lets you add multiple of the same ingredient with no penality (just a loss of bonus effectiveness) by just.. adjusting the hunger added

[willow tulip]

Pretty sure iv slightly burnt my hamburger for the past 20 years just ot make it taste better...

RIP im ded

[vast pier]

negative happiness because I added too much cheese.. Unrealistic, it's impossible to add too much cheese

[willow tulip]

Yea. I made it so adding 10lbs of cheese only gives you the happyness of like, 3lbs worth of cheese.

[vast pier]

I think that's just called a sear

[willow tulip]

much more realistic.

a little bit of <X> adds a large improvement but more adds less, so you have a reason to collect other stuff -_-

[vast pier]

Unfortunately the introduction of this new mag type means I have added in 2 more guns that are technically the same guns as the other 4

[willow tulip]

but if all you have is 100 <insert farm vegi> then well... just go for it.

[vast pier]

It doesn't have to be like this, I'm just too lazy to set it up

[willow tulip]

also will show you that no matter how many radishes you use, your still not getting a single damn calorie.

[vast pier]

It would probably only need to actually be like, 1-2 guns if I set up the lua

[willow tulip]

Pretty much, ModData is awesome.

[vast pier]

This is how I find out Radishes have no caloric value ??????????

[willow tulip]

Yes, you can eat all the radishes you want, for free! its like eating wood

spicy wood

[vast pier]

That sounds fake

Like I know now that it's true

but it just

what

what do you mean there's a vegetable that just, does nothing

huh

[willow tulip]

Look up the calories of like... everything you can grow in zomboid

[vast pier]

how does that even work

[willow tulip]

only like 20% of them have any calories whatsoever.

[vast pier]

but like

[willow tulip]

"Why do I keep losing weight!??!" - guy who keeps eating stuff with 0 calories.

[vast pier]

A teaspoon of mustard has more calories than a giant radish

this sounds insane

wtf

[willow tulip]

Yes

now realize, you need 2000 calories per day to live ok?

[pastel wolf]

there are a lot of foods that barely have any calories

[willow tulip]

so go look up how many calories a potato, cabbage, tomato, etc has...

[pastel wolf]

lots of plants are mostly fibre and water

and we just don't digest those

[willow tulip]

yep

[pastel wolf]

you can eat them until you are full to bursting and still starve to death

[willow tulip]

ps 2000 cals in PZ is you just standing around all day.. its more if you walk/jog/do stuff

[vast pier]

lemme just go eat 28 pounds of radish real quick for my daily serving of calories

[willow tulip]

PS: eggs are 70 cals 😛

you need 30+ per day.

[pastel wolf]

which you very likely are, since you are having to run around and whack things a lot in this game

[pastel wolf]

gaston moment

https://klipy.com/gifs/eggs-beauty-and-the-beast

[willow tulip]

thats why I added the slider that lets you add up to 100 hunger in one button press

[oak python]

whats the easiest way to play an animation on a player character?

[vast pier]

I guess that depends on what it’s related to

[pastel wolf]

Does the wiki have a list of all procedural distribution spawn locations?

[bright fog]

If you mean distributions, yes:
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Procedural_distributions

[pastel wolf]

perfect

[wooden stratus]

Hello all, quick OnFillWorldObjectContextMenu question: When trying to capture a North or West facing door, as pictured, via OnFillWorldObjectContextMenu is there an already established method? My initial thought is to just check an adjacent square as a fallback, but wanted to see if anyone had come up with anything more clever/elegant.

[steel wadi]

not sure what mod that would be.. if referring to the time thing. I got 3-4 weather related stuff.. but I dont remember that being the issue.

[iron salmon]

General note that the reports, requests, and suggestions thread has found a new home here:
https://canary.discord.com/channels/136501320340209664/1476602902607954043

[bright fog]

Modding reports, requests and suggestions

#mod_portal message

[willow tulip]

Good job TIS getting PZ to hit 244FPS on my POS rig.
A++ work, I love a good optimization.

[vast pier]

Don't think this is quite what you meant, but

[willow tulip]

lol.

[vast pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1470838623225122983/1476708931438117028/2026-02-26_16-31-59.mp4?ex=69a21bdd&is=69a0ca5d&hm=7409f38b2b5e4241cec66dee2b95120e5bbd6c0f540da8e8cc62263565c7de1a&
Different video after changing the code so you rack it when ejecting the mag

[clear aurora]

hey! just finished my first mod, how i public it in the workshop?

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Uploading_mods

[clear aurora]

thanks!! i uploaded it! is there a chat here were i can share it?

[willow tulip]

Showcase channel generally. or if anyone asks about it you can post it in that channel

So whats it about anyway? 😛

[shy mantle]

ha ha... just don't zoom out!

The difference between zoomed out and zoomed in is so funny, you can watch your system go from a beast to a potato in a literal second

[lost jay]

Hi people, I have a really cool idea on applying vehicle vinyl wraps to vehicles. I have a few questions, please dm me if youre free. 🙂 TY!

[clear aurora]

i took the fnaf 2 map mod that someone made and made the animatronics actually go and kill the player

[willow tulip]

Nice!

[willow tulip]

175 in the middle of nowhere zoomed out

[silent zealot]

Just ask your question here, don't expect people to DM you just to find out what you actually want help with

[silent zealot]

Can you look at fetch.door to check for a door object?

In theory that will get populated with the door for the tile you clicked on and is used by vanilla to populate the door related context menu options... but you might need to click on the tile the door is on when you approeach from the north or west.

But I feel it's fine for your mod to have the same quirks as vanilla does when it comes to click position -> door detection.

[wooden stratus]

yeah, I went with the adjacent query workaround, for the short term at least, where is fetch.door defined, did a quick look through the docs and projects and didn't see it

and thanks for the reply 😄

[silent zealot]

where is fetch.door defined,

Defined? that's a very strong word for this, but... ISWorldObjectContextMenuLogic.java is now the place for most of the world context menu logic.

[wooden stratus]

tyty

[silent zealot]

It was easier to understand when it was a giant lua mess, now it's a giant java mess.

That's where it gets set, but it's a bit of a nightmare because fetch is a recursive function with different behaviors based on arguments instead of being broken into getFetchVarsForSquare() that iterates through getFetchVarsForWorldObjects() and getFetchVarsForInventoryObjectsInWorld()

Also ISWorldObjectContextMenu.createMenu (LUA) loops through world object so It's even more confusing to make sense of teh logic flow.

...yet somehow this is much more fun to work on than the #$%^@#^@ MSSQL stored proc I'm supposed to be debugging.

[wooden stratus]

lol yeah, really makes me wish I could just attach a debugger

[silent zealot]

15 years ago someone who only knew SQL was asked to write a simple "check if this URL responds to a request" logger and instead of a 5 line script it's a collection of huge stored procs and a custom DLL that only works with one specific version of dotNet, because SQL is not the correct language for this task!

[wooden stratus]

that sounds awful, I don't envy you lol

[languid copper]

hello - I am interested in developing a mod that places a custom generator item but doesn't place it in the lootable distribution, instead I would like to hand place a few object instances in interesting spots on the map. Is this easily possible without requiring me to edit the map itself? I am thinking you might need to use a LUA script although I have never modded PZ before.

[silent zealot]

Yes. Making an item and not adding it to loot tables is super easy... you just skip the step of adding it to loot tables.

For spawning an item at specific locations there is no elegant way, but the best way I have found is used by Excalibar

Basically it has a table of locations and what to put there, every in-game hour (or maybe every 10 minutes) it checks if any of those locations are loaded, and if so 1) spawns the thing and 2) removes the entry from the table

[bright fog]

Hey, can threads be allowed in that channel so we can discuss about specific requests and suggetions of people directly there ?

[willow tulip]

We might wanna do that somehow before making the request? so they don't need to read through it all and can just read the summerized request after discussion.

(Cause im sure we're going to bikeshed about stuff that will be faster to implement then it was to discuss how we'd like it implemented)

@dull moss Iv got some mods that bypass the limits properly for MP btw 😉 but Java mod.

See Total Capacity Override at https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3587204390

[bright fog]

Eh not really

People won't bother discussing before about it, or they already did

It's best that other modders come and criticize a report, request or suggestion and the author adjusts it

[willow tulip]

Sure, that could be a method (You start a thread to discuss a report if needed and OP can modify his message/repost it once its been discussed)

[dull moss]

Yes but java mods are pain

[willow tulip]

Absolutely, id rather the limits be removed, but until then... :0

[dull moss]

Yep

[willow tulip]

but also just proves your point of 'yea modders don't like limits' lol

I saw one guy who rewrote every bit of inventory transfer code to break the limits in a MP compatible way -_-

but then he didn't bother using reflection to actually.. bypass getCapacity limiting things -_-

So it only breaks the limit for stuff that registers with his mod

[wooden stratus]

Is there another step required to make sounds generate noise to attract zombies? I've been testing and increasing the distance values, tried swapping the vanilla event for a local .ogg file, and still not drawing any attention?

    {
        is3D = true,
        category = Player,
        clip
        {
            event = Character/Survival/Carpentry/BuildMetalStructure/SmallPoleFence,
            distanceMin = 2000,
            distanceMax = 2500,
            volume = 0.8,
        }
    }```

this is played via the player's emitter, if that matters

[willow tulip]

Yes, sounds don't attract zombies

there is a specific event I forget the name of that does

maybe look into the shout code

[languid copper]

thanks - is Excalibar a modder or is this some type of framework/library?

[silent zealot]

Excalibar is a mod.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2868777243

You need to collect the pieces of Excalibar, which are a mix of random zombie drops and specifically placed items

The is relevent code:

P4Excalibar.spawnList = {
    { id="rc", item="P4Excalibar.P4RustedCrowbar", locx=8639, locy=15045, locz=0, x=0.20, y=0.20, z=-0.18, r=0, force=true },
    { id="sb", item="P4Excalibar.P4ExcalibarBook", locx=12342, locy=2132, locz=5, x=0.52, y=0.50, z=0.30, r=160, force=true },
    { id="sb1", item="P4Excalibar.P4ExcalibarBook", locx=7706, locy=11880, locz=0, x=0.54, y=0.49, z=0.35, r=0, force=false },
    { id="sb1-z1", item="Zombie", locx=7702, locy=11879, locz=0, outfit="Doctor", femaleChance=50, force=false },
    { id="sb1-z2", item="Zombie", locx=7703, locy=11880, locz=0, outfit="Doctor", femaleChance=50, force=false },
    { id="sb1-z3", item="Zombie", locx=7705, locy=11880, locz=0, outfit="Doctor", femaleChance=50, force=false },
    [...]



Events.EveryTenMinutes.Add(P4Excalibar.CheckSpawn)



P4Excalibar.CheckSpawn = function()
    local spawnReserves = P4Excalibar.getSpawnReserves()
    for k,v in pairs(spawnReserves) do
        local square = getSquare(v.locx, v.locy, v.locz)
        if square then
            if v.item == "Zombie" then
                local crawler = true
                local isFallOnFront = (ZombRand(2) == 0)
                local isFakeDead = (ZombRand(2) == 0)
                local knockedDown = true
                spawnZombie = addZombiesInOutfit(v.locx, v.locy, v.locz, 1, v.outfit, v.femaleChance, crawler, isFallOnFront, isFakeDead, knockedDown, false, false, 2):get(0)
                if not isFakeDead then
                    spawnZombie:setHealth(0)
                    spawnZombie:DoZombieStats()
                end
            else
                local spawnItem = square:AddWorldInventoryItem(v.item, v.x, v.y, v.z)
                spawnItem:setWorldZRotation(v.r)
                spawnItem:getWorldItem():setIgnoreRemoveSandbox(true)
                spawnItem:getWorldItem():transmitCompleteItemToServer()
            end
            spawnReserves[k] = nil
        end
    end
end

From media\lua\client\P4Excalibar.lua

If you want to spawn a world sprite (like a placed generator) the commands to generate would be different, but that gives you a basic structure to work with to spawn things from a list when the player gets near.

The maybe-not-obvious part is square = getSquare(v.locx, v.locy, v.locz) will get nil if the location is not in the loaded area around the player

[languid copper]

Thank you 🙂

[vast pier]

what is the difference between weapon:getClipSize and weapon:getMaxAmmo ?

[fleet bridge]

for guns that dont have clips?

like a shotgun for example, or a revolver

[shrewd tundra]

this please

[willow tulip]

WorldSoundManager.instance.addSoundRepeating( likely other functions too

[wooden stratus]

lol thanks, literally just woke up and was back on the trail

[wooden stratus]

worked like a charm, much appreciated

[willow tulip]

(also addSound if its a one off)

Do note theres like, 10 different overrides that all call the 14 parameter addSound -_-

[vast pier]

Is there any actual difference between them functionally? Do they not both just return the gun’s max ammo?
Or can max ammo be larger than clip size ?

[bronze yoke]

i don't know for sure, but i imagine if the gun can hold an extra bullet in the chamber that would affect max ammo but not clip size

[vast pier]

Hmm

[willow tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-banned-sakura-anime-spray-gif-22585378

rando scam poster got ^

[lofty frigate]

and do it with LoadGridSquare? That the code only works if the square being loaded is one of those in the coordinate list. Or wouldn't it be as efficient?

[bronze yoke]

because LoadGridsquare is called literally hundreds of times in a single frame, even callbacks that return quickly can impose a significant overhead

as somebody who fights to redeem ontick's reputation, loadgridsquare is actually worth avoiding whenever you can

[willow tulip]

someone even made a framework (I forget the name) for doing stuff on chunk load without spamming LoadGridSquare so badly

load grid square is pretty much an abomination of programming TBH -_-

at the very least it should be loadChunk

[bronze yoke]

unfortunately i've heard of issues with the chunk not being fully loaded when that event is triggered

[willow tulip]

that'd reduce the call frequency by 64 (or more?) and its not like you load less then a chunk at a time

[willow tulip]

....

https://tenor.com/view/maomao-apothecary-diaries-anime-anime-girl-reaction-gif-13904198991020303302

[bronze yoke]

i think it's something like only the bottom layer is actually loaded or something like that

i haven't personally run into it since when porting my mods to b42 i happened to find smarter (and very specific to my needs) ways to target specific squares loading rather than just upgrading to a less intensive event but i think sim has had issues with it

[willow tulip]

Should give a Z for the chunk loaded then I guess -_-;

I honestly kinda hate interfacing with the world in PZ

can't really put my finger on it, but it leaves a sour taste in my mouth whenever I have to interact with world objects/cells/grid squares

[lofty frigate]

pff ok, I liked LoadGridSquare best. So is OnTick better where there is an "if then" and if it is not met the code does nothing?

[willow tulip]

Maybe its just the constant use of XYZ positions instead of having a dedicated int position class...

[willow tulip]

please don't ontick spawn code when every minute (executes every 2~5 seconds depending on worldtime scale, IIRC) would work just as well

PS if its inside a building you could also consider OnSeeNewRoom perhaps.

OnSeeNewRoom: Triggered when a room becomes visible for the first time.

[lofty frigate]

yes, that's what I do. I do TickRate

[willow tulip]

Would be nice if we could do that natively TBH, it seems to come up enough that having some kinda java map of LUA callbacks for when location <X> gets loaded wouldn't be the worst idea

[lofty frigate]

so that it doesn't activate on every tick

[bronze yoke]

would be nice yeah

[tough oxide]

literally what set me on my quest for learning lua - i hated not having a color type for UIs

[willow tulip]

You mean how we have a color type but like nothing uses it except for all the things that do use it and immediately require translation back to RGBA?

like it could be so nice but because its only used in some places it just adds 3 levels of extra pain

[tough oxide]

yeah, and then the other day i found a constant? for named colors that i feel needs a wrap

[willow tulip]

lol the named colors -_-

[tough oxide]

i mean it seems available - just needs to be context aware

[willow tulip]

pretty sure fluids can only be named colors? -_-;

[tough oxide]

i think a good lua wrapper could do most of the lifting

[willow tulip]

also fluid mixing is still wrong

50% black + 50% white = 50% brightness, but that doesn't properly respect gamma colorspace, it should be near 25% brightness.

[tough oxide]

so what about an API like Color.Water.<NamedColor>() and it returns the shape it should be in for the context?

[willow tulip]

also some super weird code that only applys when mixing fluids with the dye tags...

[tough oxide]

and then being able to add new colors that have the same benifit

or even Color.Water(<NamedColor>) that looks for a defined color then tries to fall back to the defaults

[vast pier]

is there a way to add a tag onto an instanced item through lua?
I don't mean adding it to the item type/entry, but the individual item

[willow tulip]

You can try getTags():add or something

public Set<ItemTag> getTags()

Nevermind

    public Set<ItemTag> getTags() {
        return this.scriptItem.getTags();
    }

items don't have their own tags, Use modData

[tough oxide]

not mutable?

[willow tulip]

Doesn't matter if it was, you'd be changing the script item

    public boolean hasTag(ItemTag... tags) {
        return this.scriptItem.hasTag(tags);
    }

all the code runs directly on the scriptItem

[bright fog]

Ah was my idea too, I guess not then

[willow tulip]

inventoryItem's don't have tags.. period

[bright fog]

Rip

[willow tulip]

Use modData and <some other hack to do whatever you wanted to use tags for, like onTest if it was a recipe thing)

(Check how respirators add/remove filters work for an example of that)

Note: Respirator_nofilter variants are not used.

[vast pier]

I should be able to get away with just using weapon attachments for my purposes

[willow tulip]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/908422783049007116/1477082159847313571/image.png?ex=69a37775&is=69a225f5&hm=4548cf62ea1eaa10370116b55101bc36450388ccbada03b3e25bd40b2e807ade&

Just gonna, rewrite all of butchering... to be configurable.. and based on animal weight.

[vast pier]

is it not based on animal weight ?

Would be weird for fish butchering to be based on it, but not livestock

[willow tulip]

haha no its based entirely on lifestage, animal size (something the butcher hook incorrectly sets to 0.6) and meat ratio

.. and then a sheett ton of RNG

oh and genom stuff that is totally obscured by the RNG

[silent zealot]

Only if you assume buthering different animals is consistent.

[vast pier]

could have modifiers for animal types while still being based off weight

[wraith flame]

Quick update on the ProjectLife RP framework I've been working on for the past 6 months — about a month out from playtesting.
The core architecture runs a Rust backend that's completely decoupled from PZ's game tick. Economy, jobs, police, NPCs, inventory — none of it runs inside PZ's loop. So when the game hitches at 10fps under load, my RP systems are still running at full speed. Every player action gets a request-correlated response back in a single pass — ACK or ERROR, no silent failures.

The performance difference vs running a full RP stack inside PZ's game thread is night and day. PZ's server tick is 10fps. My backend processes commands in microseconds and returns state before the next frame renders. Database-backed atomic transactions mean no desync, no rollbacks.

tl;dr PZ handles rendering and input, everything else runs on my own stack

If anyone is interested in being a play-tester, leave a checkmark above and i will message you on discord when playtesting starts

[silent zealot]

Place item on ground, single player: all done with LUA.
Place item on ground, multi player: all done with LUA.
Drop item on ground, single player: all done with LUA.
Drop item on ground, multi player: halfway through the client side the code swap to duplicated functions in Java because &#$^! YOU.

[shrewd tundra]

You are doing the Lord's work

[willow tulip]

Thanks

[willow tulip]

Basically exactly what I did, since while im sure some people are totally up for "I wanna butcher one cow for my 6 month run" others are gonna be like "Well, I want cows to last like... 2 weeks, but id still like to get 1 day of food outta a rabbit"

the game even nicely increments animal weight every day based on health

[willow tulip]

Very cool concept! Sounds like it was a good idea compared to trying to shoehorn all that into LUA

[wraith flame]

Lua is amazing, but running on a single game thread with so many systems….. disaster. My goal is to achieve what no pixel did for fiveM, and eventually provide it to everyone as a framework to run their own servers

[willow tulip]

Yea, nothing in PZ actually runs in the background once its unloaded, its all updated.. poorly, upon area load

Like im pretty sure if your away and your generator runs out (Im not even sure it can) your fridge will either act like its been without power the entire time or no time at all

I think rain barrels might update with proper amounts of rainfall when you come back but not 100% sure

[bronze yoke]

rain barrels are meta entities

[willow tulip]

Also not sure if animals can breed while your away.. last game I had in B42.12 I never once had a single pregnancy or fertile egg with my farm just outside of load area of my base

(maybe had sterile males dunno)

Gonna have to add genetic defect viewing to animal info too -_-;

im thinking level 4, you can see active defects and level 8 you can see if they carry the gene for defects

(apparently you need 2x defect genes for it to be active or something?)

[willow tulip]

ELI5 since I know very little about how the world map entities work

I could have sworn I saw something in the climate manager about tracking rainfall though

(maybe that was for plants?)

[bronze yoke]

meta entities are simulated even when they aren't loaded

[wraith flame]

chunks be chunking

[willow tulip]

Neat, is there a shortlist of those?

[wraith flame]

chunk authority too was a headache while i was figuring out npcs

[willow tulip]

@paper ibex theres a player craft history?

[paper ibex]

yup, it's used for the sorting function in the craft UI. Client-side only, but saved to the server. -> https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/3651576948/690873299732886822/

[willow tulip]

Another feature I didn't even know existed

[paper ibex]

how about entity ui with xuiskin api ?

[willow tulip]

Iv briefly glanced over the Xuiskin thingy

Wondered if I could make my own crafting stations...

with blackjack.

Fun fact: I once wrote a game with an incredibly complex chemistry system.... I could maybe bring it to PZ in some of the most cursed ways...

Imagine a system where you 'cooked' fluid mixes to make something new.

[paper ibex]

not sure what your goal is, but the Entity UI is good. The API is still a WIP, though. I managed to get it to work by creating multiple UI components and coding them with initialise() and instantiate()

The hardest part is understanding XUISkin?, ISTableLayout, row registration, and calculateLayout(). ||not sure what they are yet, might be related to XML-based User Interface||

[willow tulip]

calculateLayout() gets called on resize and can be used to limit the window size....

and by that, I mean part of bugzapper 9000 was about 8 hooks to calculate layout (I was considering just hooking the baseclass at one point) to keep crafting windows from exceeding screensize -_-

[silent zealot]

A while ago I got as far as asking butchers on Reddit how much meat someone with no idea what they were doing could get from a dead cow. If you want some more input on what is "realistic" then check out the replies: https://www.reddit.com/r/Butchery/comments/1jart6s/roughly_how_much_usable_meat_could_someone_with/

[willow tulip]

Yea thats why I made it all sandbox options

[paper ibex]

over 10 components kill the fps (my bad code) so i disabled the resize haha, less stress on the layout design and improvement

[willow tulip]

realistic yields are dumb.

Current PZ yields of ... 2000 calories, are dumb

[silent zealot]

The best (and also easiest for the modder) way to balance things!

[willow tulip]

everyone is gonna argue anything half way is either too little or too much.

So, you start with defaults half way, and go "Have fun!" with sandbox options

[silent zealot]

Yeah, a slider from, 0% to 100% for yield and who cares if the extreme numbers make no sense... people can play however they want, I'm not limiting that sort of thing to some realistic range.

[willow tulip]

Yea really just likely your bad code. I had realistic cooking drop FPS from 244 to 20 with 100 ingredients near by

fixed one stupid 2d loop that was.. just dumb, and FPS jumped right back to 244 with even 400 ingredients near by

[willow tulip]

text entry numbers in this case but yea.

we have sandbox options for milk yield, animal age speed, plant yield, plant speed, etc etc etc

but absolutely none for animal butchery yield?!?

[silent zealot]

Because the yield code is so ****ed up they couldn't figure out how to make a sandbox option work.

[willow tulip]

the code is so meh that you couldn't even tell half the time what was causing stuff because yield was like +50% -50% based on RNG

[silent zealot]

I remember thinking "it's not worth re-writing this because animals were just added and this must be a placeholder" but that was a year ago

[willow tulip]

and also bugged where butcher hook reduced yield to 20% intended due to bug that applyed 3 times over and devs have refused to fix it stating "it will be rewritten for B43"

[silent zealot]

The fish code is great - half is in kilograms, half is in pounds.

[willow tulip]

2026: "this system will be rewritten for B43 so we're not fixing the bug you provided us a fix for"

[silent zealot]

They did fix the "No Gay Porn In Kentucky" bug I submitted a fix for.

But they ignored "No White Strippers"

[willow tulip]

Apparently thats more important than getting more than 1 days worth of meat from a 1500lb cow in a survival game.

[willow tulip]

Wait really? thats racist.

-_-

[silent zealot]

It was a trivial fix... but rewriting the yield code to be "animal weight * sandbox number * (butchery skill/10)" would also be really quick

[willow tulip]

they don't use animal weight at all

[silent zealot]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/84571-4290rev29660-white-strippers-are-a-myth-no-one-hires-strippers-wearing-pink-and-there-are-not-enough-strippers/#comment-436461

[willow tulip]

every animal has, <X> items that it will spawn, between <min number> and <maxnumber> at each life stage (calf, cow)

animal size, is applied to the number that will spawn.

[silent zealot]

They did mention it was sent off for a fix, but last time I checked it has not been adjusted

[willow tulip]

animal size, is applied to the size of each item that will spawn.

animal size, is used to adjust the chance of 'prime' cut vs 'poor' or average cut, resulting in a 1x 2 or 4x calorie bonus

[silent zealot]

but... animal weight is so obvious and simple as a base for meat yield! I feel angry at you right now and you're just the messenger here!

[willow tulip]

animal size, is used to adjust how many of each item will spawn.

yes, animal size is used 3 times over.

animal size, is hard set to 0.6 for any animal that goes on a butcher hook

[silent zealot]

hahahaa

[willow tulip]

resulting in your yield dropping to like 0.2x if you had a 0.9 animal size (typical) and even lower if it was higher (can be up to 1.2)

this is why rabbits give 2x as much as cows in calories.

[willow tulip]

im so goddamn angry at this system im rewriting it from scratch basically

Not that TIS will ever use it or hire me or whatever but I just can't play a game with such a shit system where a rabbit gives you more calories than a cow.

btw: meatratio? 100% hidden from player

size? 100% hidden from player.

[silent zealot]

Still broken. And StripperWhite still does not exist.

[willow tulip]

animal weight? You get to know that on the animal info page at animal care level 4

the one factor not used in meat yield in vanilla.

not used for.. anything.

[silent zealot]

I wonder which part of the zomboid code is most rage inducing.

[willow tulip]

yes

[silent zealot]

Butchery yield is definitely a contender because of how simple it should be and how complicated and broken it is.

[willow tulip]

did you know they have a whole genom system with like 20 genes and inhairtence and defects and stuff?

[silent zealot]

I saw that!

[willow tulip]

of course you didn't because its completely hidden under RNG and not exposed to the UI at any animal care level.

-_-

[silent zealot]

Will be great for the game where I last for 20 years breeding better quality cows

[willow tulip]

lol.

just think, after 20 years of breeding them, you might get a cow that produces as much calories as a rabbit!!

[silent zealot]

I think there's a debug option to show genetics, but... who's going to care?

[willow tulip]

(* Not really because they added in hardcoded meat ratio limits if it produces enough milk to feed its calves)

[willow tulip]

someone actually made a genom mod where you get to view their genoms lol

[silent zealot]

Heresy, everyone knows rabbits are so full of meat they can explode a car that runs into them.

[willow tulip]

(without the debug mode edit genom options)

[willow tulip]

they fixed that, maybe.

[silent zealot]

TIS also refusing to add this fix to the game: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3399431185

[willow tulip]

-_-

[willow tulip]

TIS still unable to make milk expire

[wraith flame]

bullet physics

[silent zealot]

It's a one-line lua mod and it's more popular than most of my many-days-of-effort mods.

[willow tulip]

Seems like something I could figure out in 2 days of hooking UI interaction code..

[willow tulip]

what it only took me a few hours to figure out how to make cars stop sinking into the world.

(over 1400kg)

[silent zealot]

Physics for bullets, or Bullet Physics the API that controls physics? Because both suck.

The game will crash to desktop if you put more than 9 pellets into a shotgun round because of a buffer overflow.

[wraith flame]

runtime editing of bullet physics lemme rephrase that

[willow tulip]

Yes I do redefine the physics of the world at runtime..

do you.. not use realistic car physics?

https://tenor.com/view/anime-bubble-sad-gif-9840505378859916279

[silent zealot]

I do! It's a big help, and better than Better Car Physics

[wraith flame]

il show pics soon im almost done but, i got drifting and custom rims in. i said fuck fighting it

and no i do not

i have to do everything myself unfortunately thats my flavor of autism

i didnt even use zombiebuddy i made my own java agent

[willow tulip]

...

[silent zealot]

I tried out Vein a few days ago, one thing that impressed me was how much easier cars were to drive. They're not even good to drive, I'm pretty sure they are just unreal marketplace assets with generic unreal drive a vehicle code... but they handled better and First-person means you can see more than 15 metres away.

[willow tulip]

yea we need more zoom or something in PZ.. also the 'pan while driving' mode is painful

[silent zealot]

Does pan while aiming still make all your shots miss?

I turned it offer a while ago, haven't retested

[wraith flame]

macbook flex

[willow tulip]

?

[wraith flame]

on mac you can hold control and zoom in indefinetly its not a PZ thing

[silent zealot]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3405048727&searchtext=zoom I use this, it's not perfect because if you expand the zoom levels too much it too big a jump between them but it's still good for more zoom out when driving.

[wraith flame]

😎

[bright fog]

@paper ibex there's an history craft ?

[wraith flame]

fully adjustable ride height, track width, camber, angle-kit (driftmode) and attach/detach bodykit. mechanic job is gonna be 🔥 nothing done in scripts so its fully instanced

[paper ibex]

yes , player craft history use for sort in Craft UI

[bright fog]

Didn't knew it sorted by craft history too

How many recipes does it keep in memory ?

And how ?

[paper ibex]

No limit, which causes player save bloat (over 64KB) after playing for about 2-3 weeks on a heavily modded server.

TIS patched the player save limit to 128KB in 42.14, but I'm worried it only doubles the time before bloat happens again.

[bright fog]

What do they store ?

[paper ibex]

The server saves and syncs the entire crafting history array, even though it's only used for sorting the Crafting UI. This contributes to save bloat over time.

iirc the crafting history is stored in a HashMap<String, Integer>, mapping the recipe name to the crafted count

[bright fog]

So that's a string and an integer

And its this heavy ? Surprising

I mean 64 KB is not a lot anyway

Can we really talk about bloat ?

[paper ibex]

It's not just the crafting history; favorite recipes are also saved to the player modData. This issue actually existed back in B41, but it's becoming more noticeable now.

B41: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3384313958
B42: https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/3651576948/690873299732886822/

[paper ibex]

from the source code of B42.13.2

The PlayerCraftHistory uses a HashMap<String, CraftHistoryEntry>

Each CraftHistoryEntry stores:

// public void addCraftHistoryCraftedEvent(String craftType)
entry.craftCount++;
entry.lastCraftTime = this.player.getHoursSurvived();

[paper ibex]

I'm not 100% sure about the exact cause, but I've already dealt with bloated characters caused by the accumulating craft history. I managed to fix it by applying a Java patch to completely void the craft history saving on the server side. Since then, the save bloat issue hasn't come back.

[lethal bloom]

Does anyone know how to add a water supply system like in the dwap?

[knotty stone]

anyone got a clue why the hitbox is freaking out like a little girl that just got her lollipop stolen?

https://streamable.com/ilqll1

[bright fog]

The extents isn't taking the whole height here compared to the car ?

[knotty stone]

with the offset i set there shouldnt be any collision with a zombie under the truck?

have to redo all the trucks cause the double axle has the physical wheel in the middle, so they like to tip now pretty fast to the side ~.~ and i just now realised how stoppingMovementForce is rly working xD

[bright fog]

I have no idea, I'm not familiar at all with how vehicles work

[knotty stone]

at like 15seconds, you think thats cause by the corpse size?
https://streamable.com/ictr33

[bright fog]

I mean, at 15 seconds your wheels drive over a corpse yea

So not too surprising

Maybe your truck isn't heavy enough too ?

I believe weight can have an impact, or they take into consideration in the physic of the vehicles

[knotty stone]

cant make it any heavier since the suspension will fail due to overload

i can increase stoppingMovementForce that helps too, but then i need to increase horsepower too

[shy mantle]

@knotty stone Could be related: https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/91663-42140-character-spins-erratically-whenever-they-are-abovebelow-a-vehicle-on-any-floor/#findComment-459871

[bright fog]

Can you not increase the suspensions ?

[knotty stone]

only till a certain point then the box will grind the wheels no matter what

also a great addition to the wtf list https://streamable.com/un1b87

[red sphinx]

Is there any way to change the parameters of a unique item as defined in scripts, dynamically in real time with a lua function? I have found this(https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/23525-lua-dynamically-creating-special-and-unique-items-advanced-tutorial/), which I assume runs while the game is launching/loading items, not with constantly monitoring. Could it be possible to do something like adjusting a script parameter in real time, just for the item the function is interacting with, based on a real time value? Like dynamically adjusting the encumbrance of an item(defined in a script) to the current actual real time durability (calculated with each swing)? Would all butter knives, for example, everywhere suddenly get lighter, or is it possible to just make the one in my hands lighter?

[bronze yoke]

you can use the setters on the item to change most properties, listed here https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/zombie/inventory/InventoryItem.html

do note that some properties of the item are linked directly to the script and can't be changed per-instance, but this affects less of them than you would probably expect

[willow tulip]

"oh no, our game bloats the save constantly and 64kbyte is infact, not enough for everybody! thanks a lot bill gates"

"WE'll up it to 128kbyte, nobody could ever fill that up!"

TIS seriously not clear on the concept of 'limits are dumb' and 'computers have more then 64kbyte of memory to spare when it comes ot things that will end a 4 month long run that took the player hundreds of hours of playtime'

Like I know ram is expensive but im pretty sure 128kbyte is still only like 50 cents...

Also, in a game where the saves average a few 100megabytes... I feel like we could have just left player save data limit uncapped if it was going to be a 'delete the players hard work' kinda issue if he runs out..

[knotty stone]

i could need some more player memory, its completly laggin my game with that bug xD getting 4700 blowtorches with give ingredients and its using all of em 😂

cant delete them right click crashes the game 🤪

[willow tulip]

Yea last I checked, didn't we invent growable arrays sometime... 40 years ago?

[ionic crown]

hi i’m working on some custom tiles right now I’m making signs but I’ve run into an issue whenever I walk up to them they pop to the foreground and end up covering the character

[willow tulip]

You prob need to give them a depth map texture

[shrewd basin]

modpack is released 🎉 https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3675696752 🎉

[willow tulip]

@primal schooner Pretty sure that code is fine.

if self.character and (not self.character:hasTrait(CharacterTrait.DESENSITIZED)) and self.item:getContainer() and self.item:getContainer():getType() and 

( self.item:getContainer():getType() == "inventoryfemale" or self.item:getContainer() == "inventorymale" ) then

Oh, nm your right

one is getcontainer():gettype() and the other is getcontainer()

[primal schooner]

i was trying to catch another bug and stumbled on this

[willow tulip]

so what does it affect? lol

[shy mantle]

@willow tulip Got any clue where they're hiding most of the vehicle radial menu textures? Looked in "media/ui/vehicles" but I only see the window breaking refueling related icons. Considering they're pathed to that folder (e.x. media/ui/vehicles/vehicle_exit.png), I can't think of anywhere else they could be.

[willow tulip]

95% of textures in the game are in .pack files

[shy mantle]

:(

More work

[shy mantle]

I'm assuming you don't know the name of the pack file, but I'm asking anyways in hopes

[willow tulip]

Im pretty sure almost all the files are in one pack file

[shy mantle]

I'm in ProjectZomboid\media\texturepacks and there's quite a few with very generic names

[willow tulip]

UI2.pack

[shy mantle]

oh man the file sizes do tell me how many there are lol shoulda looked

[willow tulip]

UIpack has a couple

but 1/50th UI2

[shy mantle]

UI2 has what I need, thanks

[neat walrus]

any ideas why setting an item's name on the server won't trigger translations in multiplayer?
I'm trying to dynamically set names like so

item:setName(getItemNameFromFullType(translationKey))```
it works in single player, but in multiplayer it just sets to the key. printing the key shows the actual translated line, so I'm not sure why its not displaying
I have 5 generic items and 180+ translations. trying to save myself from creating an actual item for each translation

[shy mantle]

I just remembered the Wiki has these icons already

[paper ibex]

If the patch increases the byte buffer limit, it might have side effects on other calls that need the byte buffer (I haven't had time to look at the 42.14 source code yet)

[primal schooner]

when you rip clothing on zombies you are supposed to get stress and unhappiness, so with this oversight you only get it from ripping clothing on inventoryfemale

[willow tulip]

Damn, thats sexist.

... so no stress if you remove it from the zombie first?

[primal schooner]

ISCraftAction:update()

-- players that aren't desensitized gain mild stress and unhappiness from stripping items from corpses

apparently lol

[willow tulip]

Meh.

Does it correctly strip items in MP now or is it still weird?

[worn bane]

Hi, so New to moding and I figured I would try and look into making padlocks work on any container. Cuse It annoyed the heck out of me that by moving a player built container you can no longer padlock it. I started looking around and honestly understand almost nothing I'm looking at. But I spotted something in the Javadocs that says "canBeLockByPadLock" and am now wondering is the decision on if something is lockable on each Item and not part of the locks code?

I was hoping it was part of the locks code and I could just change it to think all containers where lockable not just player crafted.

[stiff vessel]

Hey team, what's a good way to define a new BodyLocation, and which clothing layers the item fits over/under?

[oak python]

does OnServerCommand only work in multiplayer? shouldn't it still excute in sp?

Events.OnServerCommand.Add(function(module, command, args)
    if module ~= MOD then return end
    print("test print")
end)

does nothing

[silent zealot]

check the pdfs released with B42.13, especially the registry stuff.

1. make a media/registries.lua file with something like:

NEPBODYLOC_CLBFYS_REAR  = ItemBodyLocation.register("nep:stockingbow_rear")

2)somewhere under media/lua/shared:

local group = BodyLocations.getGroup("Human")
group:getOrCreateLocation(NEPBODYLOC_CLBFYS_REAR)

That adds it to the very end of the body location list, if order matters use BodyLocationGroups:moveLocationToIndex()

[stiff vessel]

Thanks brother

[silent zealot]

Might be a property that is set when a world object is built that is not preserved when it it picked up/placed down. Maybe have a look at ISPadLockAction.lua, but the logic for context menus has been shoved into java.

You probably need to write your own context menu thingy that runs after the vanilla one, and if it's something you want padlockable and the padlock option is not in the menu already add it.

[bleak remnant]

@bright fog dude, i just posted my mod, is there a place for me to announce it here?

i am about to post it on reddit too

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3675915922

[silent zealot]

I don't see any issues posting a newly released mod here, it's not like there a problem with teh volume of such posts and you should be proud of what you've built!

[oak python]

how is player teleporting done in multiplayer? I tried doing setx setlx on server it does nothing, it works normally from client, does it mean im only teleporting on the client and my character will be desynced for others?

[silent zealot]

Does it make more varied/tougher zombies as the game progresses?

I'd look up how teh debug mode teleport works. Assuming that works in Multiplayer, it woudl show you what is needed.

[oak python]

i looked at one of the interior rvmods to see and it seems to be that they're doing 100% clientsided teleporting

is there no anti cheat in this game

[silent zealot]

There is half-assed anti-cheat

[bronze yoke]

are you developing for build 41 or 42

[oak python]

latest 42

.14 or w/e it is

ig it isn't a big deal if every server has admin

since it's all self hosted

so w/e

i dont think anti cheat mattters that much in this case

[silent zealot]

from DebugContextMenu.lua

DebugContextMenu.onTeleportValid = function(button, x, y, z)
    if isClient() then
        SendCommandToServer("/teleportto " .. x .. "," .. y .. "," .. z);
    else
        getPlayer():teleportTo(tonumber(x), tonumber(y), tonumber(z))
    end
end

[oak python]

wasn't aware of teleportto

[silent zealot]

So in multiplayer it sends the /teleportto command to the server, which presumably handles that.

[oak python]

im guessing it's just setlx and setx

[silent zealot]

it's a java thing.

and more or less exactly what you predicted. (that code is from IsoGameChaarcter, not the server command handler)

[shrewd tundra]

In b42, no

[shrewd tundra]

Wouldnt you happen to have a guide on how to do modding with java?

I have only been able to make mods using lua so far

I guess the possibilities using java would be even bigger

[silent zealot]

Short version: dont.

Longer version: it's a pain, and it will require you to constantly update your mod... sometimes with every hotfix, depending on exactly what you changed. And users need to manually install the java files. And you will be inundated with "not working!" comments from people who do this wrong.

[shrewd tundra]

Theres no support for mods made with java on the workshop?

[silent zealot]

Your mod will also conflict with any other mod changing the same java classes, though there are not many java mods so that isn't a big problem.

[paper ibex]

server side code should validate/move the player then client side code can change it, check out my mode for details https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3641268718

[silent zealot]

If by "support" you mean "subscribe to mod on workshop then manually copy files from the steam mod download fodler into the game's zombie directory" then yes.

Typically you need some lua stuff as well as the java, for things like settings if nothing else.

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Java

I don't know of any mod actually using Leaf of ZombieBuddy, but you can look into those if you want to try java modding

[paper ibex]

IMO ZombieBuddy's so OP, it's basically a hack.

[shrewd tundra]

All right it looks like it really gives you more liberty than lua

I dont know nothing about Java, im specialized on javascript but I could easily learn if java modding really gives you more options when modding

And based on the wiki you could basically remake anything you want

Because it allows you to rewritte vanilla java classes

[paper ibex]

I have a feeling that Java guys hate JavaScript guys (me)

[shrewd tundra]

We dont hate nobody here. Only the people that does pure javascript. Typescript > Javascript

[vast pier]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3676018580

Adds in an improvised Pipe Rifle.
You can craft this rifle through collecting/manufacturing the individual attachments for it.
The rifle's appearance and stats are determined entirely by what it's made of, offering a wide variety of form and function for a single gun.

[Pipe Rifle]
4 Barrel Variants
3 Front Stocks (8 tape colors)
3 Back Stocks (8 tape colors)
3 Grips (8 tape colors)
3 Mag Feeds (2 Mag types with different functions and capactities)
2 Receivers (Bolt-Action and Semi-Auto)
1 Gas Cap

That would be exactly 1 million combinations
4x(1+3x8)x(1+3x8)x(1+3x8)x(1+2x1+1)x2x2
(Feel free to correct my math)

With the way it's set up, there are tons of unique combinations for how a single gun could spawn in.
Currently this functionality is only for a singular rifle, but I intend on expanding this to more weapon types, and have more customizability & interchangability of gun parts.

This Rifle is also animated!
The gun has two slightly different cycle animations depending on the barrel.
Shows a loaded magazine in real time.
And has a unique "animation" for the Cube mag that changes as the mag empties.

Some planned inclusions are:
Cosmetic:
Spray paints
Engravings
Design Trims
Functional:
Melee weapons
Melee attachments on guns
Alternating between ammo types


Please note!!!!!!!
I have NOT tested this mod in multiplayer.
It is fully functional in SINGLEPLAYER, but I have not had the opportunity to bug test it in a multiplayer environment!!!
Please let me know if any bugs come up, and be sure to mention if it is a Multiplayer or Singleplayer bug!!!!

No tips needed, but are appreciated!
https://ko-fi.com/verysaltyoreos

Workshop ID: 3676018580
Mod ID: SaltyModularWeapons```

Initial Release 🥳 🎉

[oak python]

would be cool if you can craft ammo for it

would then def download

[vast pier]

That's a planned mod in the future, you could always use some other ammo crafting mod, like the one my friend has called "Hot Brass Ammo Crafting"

the gun currently just takes standard rifle rounds, but I do plan on improvised munitions in the future

[silent zealot]

Just write javascript and leave the script out. 😛

[oak python]

might be redundent then to do craftable ammo if there is already a popular ammo craft mod, i just never used ammo crafting mod so i brought it up since it would make sense for this style of gun

[vast pier]

There are plenty of popular mods, yet I don't feel it would be redundant for me to to it in my own way :P
Same friend is making a framework with aspects similar to stuff in mine, but the way they function are quite different mechanically and would not inherently replace each other despite their similarities

[oak python]

well ill give it a shot, i like fallout style pipe weapons anyhow

[willow tulip]

You need Lua to start modding PZ, but Java is an upgrade :0

but you'll still need to know Lua for UI stuff

all the UI framework is in Lua

[vast pier]

The end goal will be guns that function like multi-tools
Being as specialized as you make them, and function how you want them.

I have a few gun types in mind that I will be implementing, and the idea is that they will have shared parts that can be swapped between them

a gun will only really be defined by its core

[silent zealot]

I was thinking of making a "heavy improvised shotgun" where ammo is crafted using a tin can, gunpoweder, and scrap metal.

Instead of normal projectile logic it just kills all the zombies in a cone, then knocks the player backwards and sets muscle strain to max.

[vast pier]

While it's currently not functional/enabled, I have a bayonet and axe attachment I'm working on

[silent zealot]

Make a gun that shoots knives!

[vast pier]

Gone will be the days of only using your gun as a way to kill zeds, attach a collapsible spade to the end of your firearm and dig your own grave!!

[oak python]

that would be the sickest thing ever ngl

a gun that's also a proper melee

[vast pier]

Yep!
I even have it working to scan the bayonet directly and use its stats without damaging/affecting the gun function

[oak python]

would be cool if you can swap modes between gun and melee but i think that's like a lot of work

[silent zealot]

When you replace your bipod with an entrenching tool

[vast pier]

That's how it works, it swaps between them

[oak python]

sheesh

is that in rn?

[silent zealot]

the code is easy, the user interface and user experience is horrible.

[oak python]

or not yet

[vast pier]

Not quite, having some minor issues so it's delayed

but it's the next thing I'll be working on for the mod

[silent zealot]

Which can probably be fixed by a huge amount of additional code.

[vast pier]

Really it's just forgetting it has a magazine loaded

[oak python]

it's easy to have a weapon that has functions of ranged and melee? how would you do that

[vast pier]

that's the only current issue

[oak python]

i can only think of having a fake melee clone tool that gets inserted

[vast pier]

That's exactly what I'm doing

[silent zealot]

no no no! You have two weapons that transform into each other.

That's why it's a horrible user experience.

[oak python]

i dont see how that's diff than swaping to a melee

it's just styled differently

[silent zealot]

Remember this is a game where a watch becomes a completely different item when you wear it on yoru other wrist

[willow tulip]

I saw some guy with working bayonets

I assume he just made it autoswap based on distance of nearest zombie, or some hack like that

[vast pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/232196827577974784/1423569964123815986/2025-10-03_02-13-14.mp4?ex=69a49118&is=69a33f98&hm=7074d634c76267d0a136f3e15ca8b3c3037ac295254e4451a78025e23238fd03&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/232196827577974784/1423570666833055784/2025-10-03_02-13-43.mp4?ex=69a491bf&is=69a3403f&hm=a19ab27af68eff764c097902d7c25ab1d8c2e7c4b35806de914a62292cdaba25&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/232196827577974784/1423572702064545912/2025-10-03_02-18-51.mp4?ex=69a493a4&is=69a34224&hm=aa3d754aeebe1487b818aa8dcca370f900a4d489e6968e1825cc06dff6de022a&

Here's some old videos from an earlier stage in the project

[silent zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_luBh6eFANU This would be a viable mod; a melee weapon where you can right click -> reload and replace the shell, and on hit if there is a shell do a bunch of bonus damage.

Not a viable weapon, but a viable mod.

[boreal pawn]

Hi, im busy with a mod ive been building while i learn lua, i just want to find out about the moddata. how big can a players mod data be before it starts giving issues in single player or multiplayer or if their is any limit at all

the mod im making is a skill tree - that allows the user or admins to create their own tree and build their own hierarchy with multiple categories and im currently effecting about 50 + stats with the option of creating active skills that active when conditions are met on the above stats - eg: panic hits 80% then skill activates giving you 100% dmg increase and increase amount of multi hit targets you can hit for a limited time or until it goes below

i played with around 200+ nodes unlocked and didn't really see any difference but I'm curious when on a server and their is 10 or 20 people with that amount

[oak python]

honestly yea maybe just having space bar do damage is better than a swap

[silent zealot]

Does "200 nodes unlocked" mean you're just storing 200 numbers?

[vast pier]

Well I plan to add in a hotkey

This is just the proof of concept

[silent zealot]

I don't think storing the nodes will be an issue, I think the bigger potential issue is the performance of constantly checking the conditions for active skills

[vast pier]

And the reason why I'm hyping this up is because the melee version of the weapon is generated in real time.
It's not just a dummy item with set base stats

[boreal pawn]

200 nodes are as follows

i store the nodes as unlocked and track which skill they effect so im not grabbing every stat on every tick only the one that player needs

when nodes are unlocked and their is multiple of the same stat it reruns the calcualtion and stores the value on the player

[willow tulip]

Player save data is limited to 128kbyte, but dunno how expensive syncing a ton of mod data is

[vast pier]

Meaning the functionality can be used theoretically in any mod that adds in one or two specific tags to their guns

[boreal pawn]

if we have endurance gain increase - 3 node 1.5 + 1.6 + 1.5 i store endruance gain as 4.6 and when the tick runs to getthe value it applys that single value but im still storing the node id for each node a player has

[vast pier]

It's also because I meant it when I said it's going to be designed for your gun to turn into a multi-tool

[silent zealot]

Mack approves.

[vast pier]

Provides quality options for different melee builds without having to carry multiple weapons and encumber yourself

[boreal pawn]

i had an issue in the start where i would just sync everything at once but ive got it to be alot smoother by only updating the values that changes when unlocking a node or refunding it or if a world buff applies

ill most likely have to just get a dump of my mod data by unlocking 1000+ nodes and see how big it is

[vast pier]

also 25 seconds into the last video, you can see my bayonet break and instantly swap to firing mode

[silent zealot]

You could back 200 booleans into 25 bytes, instead of 800 bytes if they get sent/stored as regular ints.

A lot of of the zomboid client/server communication is written like every bit is precious.

[willow tulip]

its LUA...

If you wanna bitstuff doubles.. be my guest 🙂

[silent zealot]

That just makes the packing & unpacking less efficent!

[willow tulip]

Lua doesn't even have an int type.

[silent zealot]

If the sending-over-the-network stuff is a bottleneck that will help.

[silent zealot]

But stuff goes into java before getting sent, so it will be a lua number -> java decides on int or float probably

[willow tulip]

java decides on double, it would be crazy for it to randomly typecast it

[bronze yoke]

regardless a double can't store every integer value

it doesn't matter if java is converting it to an integer if the double doesn't represent the right integer to begin with

[willow tulip]

Lua does have a native boolean type however, and PZ would likely send that as byte.

[boreal pawn]

looks like i should be fine im only doing about 7.5kb with 1000 nodes on the player mod data

would it be better to store unlocked nodes on the global side and then just amend all players that have it when they unlock or refund them

i see this in the mod data section
In online multiplayer, GlobalModData is not saved on clients (client-only save), so it will not persist on reconnect!

does this mean it gets lost on every restart? or am i just reading this wrong

[bronze yoke]

it's lost by the clients

in other words there is basically no reason to use global mod data on the client anymore, it doesn't behave differently from any other table

[willow tulip]

^ ie, you need to make your own sync packets both ways.. its just an isolated table in MP on client side.

[boreal pawn]

thanks for the info, just trying to see where i can squeeze out any performance or bugs that may happen when scaling

[paper ibex]

Use sendClientCommand / sendServerCommand for specific cases and never send the whole table. IMO, multiplayer mods should follow a proper client-server architecture instead of just syncing client-only data to the server.

[boreal pawn]

i was sending the whole table on ui close to force sync - ill change that now to look at the data and not be lazy

[paper ibex]

if the server have nothing to do with your data, you can try use mod options (small data) and file writer (structured) on client

especially for ui

[silent zealot]

Project Zomboid should follow a proper client-server architecture, yet here we are. 😛

[boreal pawn]

all ui stuff im placing on the client for things like opacity

but the server does the calcs and node data checks

[silent zealot]

Is there anyway to change the tags on mods without re-uploading via the game? I want to add [Multiplayer] to teh mods I've updated for MP, but I don't want to go through the game and deal with having to make sure I'm not about to wipe out the description by uploading an old one unless I have to.

[willow tulip]

Yes with the steam uploader tool, but you can also do what I do: Open the mods 'edit description' in steam workshop (browser), upload mod via PZ, then hit 'save changes' in browser.

[bright fog]

You should be fine don't worry

[bright fog]

Here, reddit, other discord servers, modding Discord and supportive saturday

Also read this to make your mod page better
#1235648828900642966 message

[clear aurora]

Hey, is there a guide or a page of the wiki were i can learn to make a mod that add a challenge?

[bright fog]

Nop no docs

[clear aurora]

i see, i found the "dochallenge" and "addchallenge" line for lua, do you know if i can add it to the game just like that or i need more archives or sm

[shrewd basin]

New Update (Hidden King) https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3675696752

[shrewd tundra]

Hello everybody, quick question. Is there any way to mutate the texture of a vanilla firearm?

I'm looking to create a recipe to change the texture of a gun, without needing to create a new gun, something like:

gun.texture = 'newUrl'

But all the references I have read showed me this is not possible and I would need to create a whole new gun and inherit all the values from the previous gun

[torn igloo]

Is there an UI editor for B42, I seen many making nice looking UI.

[bronze yoke]

no

i've noticed a lot of the fancier uis are ai coded, i guess it's good at something

[willow tulip]

lol

[willow tulip]

IIRC someone has a UI framework? but other then that, I just go and steal stuff from vanilla UI's

its a pretty decent UI framework TIS has really

my own I made was muchless capable and more annoying to use (for my own game years ago)

The existing UI components seem quite flexable though and have all the major options you'd want from a UI

while still allowing enough raw drawing API to let you do any kinda special component you might want.

(theres a few calls that let you draw only part of an image via UV cords for example)

My best UI so far:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/908422783049007116/1475644024684548298/Cooking_5.gif?ex=69a62517&is=69a4d397&hm=675280046c3e7f1c5b500a0bc3b92270921cb5d094dc0ada745dba6d4e505210&

[bright fog]

Actually you can make a new model with a different texture and change the InventoryItem model if I'm not mistaken

A bit tedious to do tho

[silent zealot]

You can completely replace the model of a weapon. I've never tried just doing texture, but worst case you define a model identical to the base model with a different texture.

Look at the Survival Rifle mod for an example that swaps the weapon model (you'll obviously want different triggers)

[iron salmon]

Missed that, yeah that makes sense 😄

Done

[marble folio]

Hey Nasko, any chances we could get a forum like #1162438206516645948 but specifically for Mod Showcases?
Technically we can just showcase then here on the chat or on the original showcase channel but a place dedicated to that would be really neat for organization and better individual visibility!

[bright fog]

Thx !

[vast pier]

You would also need to add in code to keep the model as the correct one, or it will default back to the original

when reloading the game

this could easily be accomplished with a simple modData check onEquipPrimary/onCreatePlayer event

[mellow frigate]

Hi, is there a way to get the ItemKey (I guess from an item type string) in order to use as first parameter of ItemContainer.addItems for MODDED items ?

[bronze yoke]

no

item keys aren't meant for modders, they don't work with other modules

[slow wind]

Does anyone know how I can add something to this menu?

[vast pier]

Posting this here again for engagement

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3676018580

[mellow frigate]

Hello again, is there something specific to make modded containers (bags) to have a base Encombrance (Weight) ? When I duplicate the duffel bag definition in a modded module, my bag empty weight is 0 instead of 1.0. (B42.14.1). I've tried many bags variants and got the same for each one tried. Parameters other than weight (Capacity, WeightReduction, Icon, ...) are set according to my changes. module TestMod { item Bag_DuffelBag { DisplayCategory = Bag, ItemType = base:container, Weight = 1.0, IconsForTexture = Duffelbag;DuffelBag_Green;DuffelBag_Grey;DuffelBagBlue;DuffelBagRed;Duffelbag_Sport;Duffelbag_Sport2, CanBeEquipped = base:back, CanHaveHoles = false, Capacity = 18, CloseSound = CloseBag, ClothingItem = Bag_DuffelBag, EquipSound = EquipDuffleBag, OpenSound = OpenBag, PutInSound = PutItemInBag, ReplaceInPrimaryHand = Bag_DuffelBag_RHand holdingbagright, ReplaceInSecondHand = Bag_DuffelBag_LHand holdingbagleft, RunSpeedModifier = 0.95, SoundParameter = EquippedBaggageContainer DuffleBag, WeightReduction = 65, WorldStaticModel = DuffelBag_Ground, Tags = base:isfirefuel;base:isfiretinder, } }

[willow tulip]

Need a translation name for items to have weight

[mellow frigate]

thanx

[willow tulip]

Just gonna.. leave a report about that on #mod_portal

Seems like once a day we get someone with that issue

(Since its very confusing and the only way to know its the translation tag is have someone tell you or code dive for an hour)

[mellow frigate]

Yeah, or I could just not have cared until I finished the mod, and it would have disappeared when I'd have done the translation. People with good task priority management probably avoid the time loss.

[willow tulip]

Most people just bang there head against the wall for hours wondering why it doesn't work lol

if they notice it

[knotty stone]

Lets call it mechanics eye? xD
I think the colored version is a bit to heavy on the eyes?

[supple kiln]

Hi, new to modding. I'm trying to get the world age, date time, and current weather.

I'm having a hard time getting the weather. Reading through the docs, I don't think its possible in .lua? or am I missing something.

All I could see is this class
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/ClimateManager

[knotty stone]

print("Is Raining?:"..tostring(c:isRaining()).." // Rain Intensity:"..c:getRainIntensity().." // Temperature:"..c:getTemperature().." // Fog Intensity:"..c:getFogIntensity().." // Wind Speed:"..c:getWindspeedKph())```

[supple kiln]

Thanks for taking time. I believe I already did something similar. But let me try again. It's like the .lua can't access some methods within the ClimateManager class. Or maybe I'm doing something wrong.

[mellow frigate]

Has someone already created a new item type from lua ? (without .txt)

[shy mantle]

I was thinking about doing something similar where you don't have to open the hood to interact with some parts like the wheels, doors, etc. I love this view (and the colored version is definitely too much lol)

[knotty stone]

yea i think its doing a good job this way

[shy mantle]

Does it work like foraging?

[knotty stone]

nah thats just me playing with shortsighted xD

[shy mantle]

Understandable, but I think that would be cool to consider if it's not per vehicle view

[knotty stone]

yea its using a 3 tile range to find the car so you could see multiple cars, esle with slightly longer cars you dont get a display if you stand in front of it

[shy mantle]

I also have this limitation of getting the vehicle distance because I want to consider burnt car wrecks for a different feature. Can you check for per part areas and get those coordinates instead?

[knotty stone]

that should be doable

[shy mantle]

I wish getNearVehicle had a custom distance check instead of a set distance

That seems like too small of an ask for #mod_portal lol

[knotty stone]

got it that it triggers when it finds a part in a 1 tile radius, but thats not any help when trying to read burn cars 😄

[shy mantle]

How do you grab the vehicle to begin with?

[knotty stone]

getcell():getvehicles()

i can give you the whole thing for you to look ```--- Returns the single nearest vehicle to the local player, determined by
--- finding the part-area coordinate on each vehicle that is closest to the
--- player's position. Returns nil when no vehicle is within FOCUS_RADIUS tiles.
local FOCUS_RADIUS = 1 -- hardcoded; not user-configurable
local function getNearestVehicle()
local player = getSpecificPlayer(0)
if not player then return nil end
local px, py = player:getX(), player:getY()
local bestVehicle, bestDist = nil, FOCUS_RADIUS * FOCUS_RADIUS

local vehicles = getCell():getVehicles()
if not vehicles then return nil end

for i = 0, vehicles:size() - 1 do
    local v = vehicles:get(i)
    if v then
        -- Use each part's area centre for the distance test so we match
        -- the coordinate system the badges are rendered in.
        for j = 0, v:getPartCount() - 1 do
            local part   = v:getPartByIndex(j)
            local area   = part and part:getArea()
            local center = area and v:getAreaCenter(area)
            if center then
                local dx = px - center:getX()
                local dy = py - center:getY()
                local d2 = dx * dx + dy * dy
                if d2 < bestDist then
                    bestDist    = d2
                    bestVehicle = v
                end
            end
        end
        -- Also test the vehicle origin for vehicles whose parts have no area
        local dx = px - v:getX()
        local dy = py - v:getY()
        local d2 = dx * dx + dy * dy
        if d2 < bestDist then
            bestDist    = d2
            bestVehicle = v
        end
    end
end
return bestVehicle

end```

i just have to get rid of the focus radius stuff since i dont need it to adjust anymore

[shy mantle]

I just think it would be easier to settle on 1 vehicle at a time and not have to deal with that + potential overlapping text with just getNearVehicle ha ha

Wait, your first comment is about only returning one vehicle...

Now I'm confused

[knotty stone]

Range 4 only shows 1 at a time

stil have to work on that zoom <.< that the field shrinks

[shy mantle]

Oh so you want more than 1 sometimes? This might be more expensive, but you can always do a per tile search for vehicle containers in a radius around the player. That doesn't require the vehicle's exact x and y

[knotty stone]

no, just wanted to show that it only shows 1 even with a range of 4. displaying more than one is not something that would be healthy for the eyes 😄

[shy mantle]

That's why I was confused lol it sounded like you could have multiple vehicles' parts (multiple vehicles) showing lol

[shy mantle]

so why not getNearVehicle then?

[knotty stone]

yea i could replace all that stuff with a 1 liner, but i have to limit the range, its triggering like 4 tiles away

[shy mantle]

You can always do the range check after getNearVehicle, it always does the closest and most center facing one from the player's cone

[knotty stone]

so late again, have to go to bed, thx for the input 🛌

[shy mantle]

Oh no problem, I get enjoyment from talking about the only things I know about this game code-wise lol

[oak python]

how on earth do you check to see if a player has a trait? it returns nill for literally everything

[dull moss]

You need to check versus CharacterTrait

[bronze yoke]

what is 'literally everything'

[oak python]

TraitCollection.hasTrait, HasTrait,conains, getTraitSlot

[bronze yoke]

what are the arguments?

[dull moss]

look middle line

    if
        smokerModData.SmokingAddiction >= SBvars.SmokerCounter
        and not player:hasTrait(CharacterTrait.SMOKER)
        and SBvars.TraitsLockSystemCanGainNegative
    then

[bronze yoke]

we can't tell you what you're doing wrong without knowing what you're doing in the first place

[willow tulip]

Right? Some people get annoyed at me complaining about food all the time but I just love it when I meet someone who I can actually talk details about the food with. Hard to work on systems when you only have your own opinions on the subject.

[oak python]

what if it's a custom trait

[dull moss]

then u add it to registry and check registry

check wiki page on how to make registry

[willow tulip]

Speaking of code issues... what is the operator precidence for ==/>= etc and 'and/or'

Like....

if a > 0 and b > 0
is this
A: if (a > 0) and (b > 0)
or is it
B: if ((a > 0) and b) > 0

[bronze yoke]

and/or are a lower precedent than ==/~=

[willow tulip]

Or something even more cursed?

[bronze yoke]

if (a > 0) and (b > 0)

[oak python]

i have the regestriy, is it just :hasTrait("mymod:mytrait")

[willow tulip]

K thanks. I could have sworn I had bugs till I added more () in some code and was wondering if that was a thing or not.

What operators are lower then and/or?

[bronze yoke]

if either you or the compiler is getting confused the brackets never hurt

the one i trip over occasionally is not has the highest precedence (i prefer ! since that makes this a lot more obvious visually)

[frank elbow]

Operator precedence in Lua follows the table below, from the higher to the lower priority:

^
not - (unary)
* /

..
< > <= >= ~= ==
and
or

[willow tulip]

so not x and y means (not x) and y ?

[bronze yoke]

yeah

[willow tulip]

Hu, or is lower then and.. makes sense. I kinda assumed they would be equal

[bronze yoke]

the reason i trip over it is if not a == b looks like it means if a ~= b

[frank elbow]

Typically and has higher precedence in languages

[willow tulip]

Ah yea

[dull moss]

no, you import ur registry
for example registry

---@class EvolvingTraitsWorldRegistries
ETWRegistry = ETWRegistry or {}

---@type EvolvingTraitsWorldTraitsRegistries
ETWRegistry.traits = {
    AV_CLUB = CharacterTrait.register("ETW:AVClub"),
}

then u have a lua file that returns ur registry

return ETWRegistry

then u require it

---@type EvolvingTraitsWorldRegistries
local ETWRegistries = require("ETWRegistry")
---@type EvolvingTraitsWorldTraitsRegistries
local ETWTraitsRegistry = ETWRegistries.traits

then u use ur registry

        if
            not player:hasTrait(ETWTraitsRegistry.PLUVIOPHOBIA)
            and modData.RainCounter <= -SBCounter
            and not desensitized(player)
            and SBvars.TraitsLockSystemCanGainNegative
        then

[bronze yoke]

i like languages with ! better since if !a == b is very obvious about that

[willow tulip]

Yea, Im not a huge fan of Lua's not and ~=

[dull moss]

~= makes me mad fr

[frank elbow]

I am indifferent about ~=

[willow tulip]

I get so many errors about forgetting to convert != to ~= when I convert java to Lua -_-;

[dull moss]

true and real

[bronze yoke]

i don't really know why they went with ~, seems completely arbitrary to me

[willow tulip]

Apparently ~ came first. but im pretty sure != was around before Lua was invented...

[frank elbow]

I think they should have gone all in with the word operators and made us type out greater than

[willow tulip]

"greater or equal but not lesser than"

[frank elbow]

x >= y? What the hell, this is a scripting language. We should be writing x greater than or equal to y

[frank elbow]

Even better

[willow tulip]

You gotta define all your codepaths in english or the AI interpeter will get confused

[frank elbow]

It certainly was, I wonder if any old documents say why they chose it

[bronze yoke]

nil over null is pretty silly too but i think that one might be to differentiate interpreter errors and runtime errors

[willow tulip]

"Can't reproduce bug report. Please turn your computers tempature down so it stops hallucinating so many instructions"

[willow tulip]

"We need to make this language easy to use for non programmers!"
"What about easy to use for programmers?"
".... %$^& EM"

And thus, the more you learn about Lua, the more of a programmer you become and hence the worse you become at Lua /s

[dull moss]

So, how do you in 42.13 and higher hook onto smoking? Before I used to do sth like

local original_OnEat_Cigarettes = OnEat_Cigarettes
---Overwriting OnEat_Cigarettes here to insert ETW logic catching player smoking
---@param food any
---@param character IsoGameCharacter
---@param percent number
function OnEat_Cigarettes(food, character, percent)
    ETWExportedFunctions.smokingAddictionMath(character)
    original_OnEat_Cigarettes(food, character, percent)
end

Needless to say it ain't working no more

[bronze yoke]

it's just in a different place now i think

[willow tulip]

maybe you should.... smoke the cigarettes? I dunno I don't smoke anymore I dunno what you kids do with em these days.

[bronze yoke]

probably RecipeCodeOnEat.consumeNicotine

[willow tulip]

Pretty sure its in a table

[dull moss]

Ty, will look into it

[willow tulip]

Go look at the cigarette onUse() in the .txt if that doesn't work or you wanna confirm.

(or for future items)

Kinda happy to see stuff like that being moved outta globals and into tables. Not 100% sure the shift to java was entirely needed but whatever. Shows someones pushing back on technical debt.

[bronze yoke]

the move to java is just because it allows type safety with their script generator

[willow tulip]

script generator?

I get the desire for type safety as I had seen a number of bugs to do with typos and such, especially in item scripts

Just was a little annoyed that we saw about as many bugs from them converting the scripts to java as I had seen in typos 😛 (though I guess many typo bugs where fixed long before I started looking so thats a bit unfair compairson)

the inversion of dirty/clean rags was funny.

[bronze yoke]

bugs being introduced by any major conversion is inevitable, potential bugs have been prevented into the future

[willow tulip]

Yea, true

Hopefully lowering the debt will improve work flow/speed too.

[oak python]

ty

[silent zealot]

Not sure if it changed in B42.13, but you used to eat cigarettes and the eat action would play the smoking animation/sounds.

Now I'd guess either Tags = base:smokable, or EatType = Cigarettes, is what handles this

[silent zealot]

I'm still annoyed you can't wash rags in a washing machine, and the code needed to change that is in java. And they updated this... to put it in a different bit of java.

[frank elbow]

Could always throw it in #mod_portal, if you haven't already

[silent zealot]

There are lots of thing I'd like them to fix first!

[willow tulip]

Can't we make them just like... soak and replaceonwet like magazine armor does?

(or is that only destroy on wet?)

oh its a tag base:breakwhenwet

[silent zealot]

tag base:breakwhenwet; now

you ebat me to it 😛

[willow tulip]

there is onBreak = item; though?

Nothing uses up rag durability

[silent zealot]

So it will only work on things with condition, and it sets condition to zero

[willow tulip]

Oh no wait onBreak is a lua callback

[silent zealot]

I can't see where the "do this when it breaks" code/replacement item is

I assume it's using the newer system of not making a new item, but having a different name when condition is 0

[willow tulip]

crap, rags don't even get wet -_-

[willow tulip]

Oh... OnBreak = is only for weapons, doh

so yea, cleaning rags is.. pretty broken -_-

even from a modding standpoint

[silent zealot]

I just wash them in a dirty river

perfectly clean!

[vast pier]

Does it not still trigger when other items reach 0 condition?

[vast pier]

Can’t you just change that, or is it hard coded

[dusty pivot]

Is there a mod that adds the browning hi power?

[slow wind]

Does anyone have any idea why, when I place the sprite of an object that has an inventory and build it, it comes with items inside?

[willow tulip]

Im not sure other items even have it.

[willow tulip]

I think thats only for clothing...

So we'd have to turn rags into clothing and/or weapons 😛

I feel like the best we could do is a 'mass wash rag' recipe that requires X water and lets you wash multiple rags at once, with an onTest that requires you be near a washing machine or something

[silent zealot]

I'm pretty sure that is hardcoed, in that only the Clothing class can get wet

[oak python]

does player:playSound replicate in multiplayer? (if i sendClientMessage to all players to play sound, it will pay mulitple times for everyone based on # of players)

[willow tulip]

IIRC, it does, you want playSoundImpl or something for non-replication

(Kinda required to have proper volume control over sounds, make sure to adjust it based on the game sound slider -_-)

[torn igloo]

getFileWriter doesn't seem to work on my mod for 42.14 server, did they change it?

[bright fog]

@gaunt junco wrong channel, ask questions here

[gaunt junco]

My bad @bright fog

Anyone have a fix for container liquid not showing in context menu on cooking pots. Like I can’t do anything with it. 4/5 cooking pots are bugged like this. No clue if it’s a mod or pz.

[dull moss]

Uuuuhm, how does one hook onto it, considering it's a java method? Haven't done it before so not entirely sure how can one do it
Like I want to run some lua code whenever nicotine is consumed

[serene lake]

Hey, i am currently making a big modpack with specifics settings for a long time now.
But since the B42 is updated sometimes, some mods are causing bugs and i try to solve it on my own (even if i am not a dev).
And im looking to fix a mod that basically allow the instakill with a short blade in combat again, like B40.
The mod Better JawStabs give you the chance to instakill a zombie if a another zombie is not close (in vanilla it is determined if a zombie has saw you).
Do you know a way to fix it or maybe a easy way to program a script?

[dull moss]

Not an answer you are looking for but making modpacks in b42 rn is crazy due to how often game updates and likely to break mods

[serene lake]

I know, but im addicted to this modpack.
I will share this modpack with the community later, but i swear i have never had such a cool experience in gaming with this modpack when all the mods were fine.
It is a complete overhaul of the game, making shamblers a real danger again, and the game look so realistic and dangerous.

[silent zealot]

So the short version is you have a mod that used to work, now it doesn't, and you wnat to fix it?

If it's a B42, start with what is actually wrong - what errors or problems do you get when you try to use the mod?

I do agree with @dull moss that huge modpacks are not worthwhile right now; it's fine to run lots of mods, but don't bother trying to make something to share because 1) you will have to constantly fight to keep it all working and 2) IMO downloading huge modpacks is a terrible idea since people have no idea what is actually going on, and it's best to build up your personal preferences for your own use.

But fixing up a mod you like that stopped working? I do that all the time for personal use, and since it's often a very small fix I'll psot in the mod comments for teh author./other users to make the same fix if they want.

(BTW> the reason jawstab in vanilla only works agsint a single zombie is it has a chance to disarm you and you have to pick your knife and re-equip it... and you can't alter that behavior in a mod because it happens in CombatManager.java)

[serene lake]

I will remember that thx.
Anyway, when i said that i will share the modpack tare, it's not tomorrow.
I know i'll need to wait for the B42 to be finished.

[iron salmon]

Aye, dedicated place for them makes sense.
https://canary.discord.com/channels/136501320340209664/1478418176516558880

[marble folio]

Thanks

[iron salmon]

It's at the bottom of the Workshop category atm, let us know if y'all want it placed elsewhere

[vast pier]

really ?? huh
strange

Would be interesting to have like

certain normal-type items be affected by being wet

this is gonna sound really dumb, but could you get around this by turning dirty rags into water containers?
Like don't get me wrong, gameplay wise this would be dumb as hell, but could it theoretically work ?

[silent zealot]

Water container is a special case

[vast pier]

books/magazines being ruined by being left in a soaked bag

rags being unusable for bandaging until dry (or acting like dirty rags)

[silent zealot]

Instead of being part of the object type, where type literally causes items to be a different java class, fluidcontainer is a class that can added to something high level all items descend from

[vast pier]

why does Java have genetics

[silent zealot]

They did that in B42, and it was very exciting because I thought theyightvtry to fix up the old junk too

[vast pier]

did what

[silent zealot]

Class inheritence

[vast pier]

I've yapped a lot

[silent zealot]

Made fluid container a modular thing

So the hydration backpack is a container that has a fluidcontainer

[frank elbow]

Common nasKo W

[silent zealot]

It's why you can't do stuff like a drainable weapon, because drainable is one java class and weapon is another

Or if you want to convert underpants into something you can put stuff in you have to change them from type clothing to type container, which if done mid-save deletes all existing underpants from the world.

A sane design spec would let you add a "inventorycontainer" property to objects, like fluidcontainer... but all the classes were coded separately.

[vast pier]

place

[bronze yoke]

they have made an intention to do this clear

[dull moss]

@bronze yoke hi

[bronze yoke]

it's the same as a lua function

[dull moss]

oh

thought its different 😅

[bronze yoke]

you can hook any java method as long as it's being called through lua (what you are modifying is lua's copy of the method, not the method itself)

and OnEat is one of the weird times where java uses lua to call a java method

[dull moss]

so sth like

original_func = RecipeOnEat:consumeNicotine() -- or whatever its called
local RecipeOnEat:consumeNicotine()
    ...
end

[bronze yoke]

local original_func = RecipeOnEat.consumeNicotine -- or whatever its called
function RecipeOnEat.consumeNicotine()
    ...
end

[dull moss]

yea that, thx

I'm getting dangerously close to making all of my files work

[stuck tapir]

Anyone with experience making tiles know off the top of their heads why a custom tile might not show up in the tile report? Some obvious bit I may have missed?

[dull moss]

That sounds like #mapping

[stuck tapir]

Oh, so true. Thanks.

[glacial atlas]

i'm trying to make a local mod to add a recipe

i tried adding my recipe to one of the script .txt files but i leads to my game crashing

[vast pier]

Does anyone know if the ItemType reverts back to its original state on game reload if you use setItemType() to change it?
If it gets saved to the individual item, it could be helpful for some ideas I have
but if it reverts to its original state on game load, then it would be a waste of time trying to do stuff that way

[glacial atlas]

this recipe is crashing my game and i don't understand why

[vast pier]

tags[base:sharpknife]

try that

[glacial atlas]

okay it doesn't crash my game anymore but i just can't see it in game now 😭

i also change the name to "craftRecipe CarveLongStickFromLargeHandle" so it doesn't overlap with the vanilla recipe but still nothing

[bronze yoke]

is there no module block in your file

[glacial atlas]

🥲

this is my first time i'm sorry

i forgot about that

[bronze yoke]

i didn't mean to sound demeaning, just wasn't sure if you'd sent the full file or just the recipe you were having trouble with

wrap the whole thing in this and it will probably work```
module Base {
...
}

[glacial atlas]

nah you didn't but i also realised that it's a beginner mistake lol

😭

why is it crashing agian

nvm i found a typo

whoops

thank you very much albion and oreos

it works now

i do have some polish question about how to make the crafting recipe name different from its id and how to make it not require a surface to craft

[bronze yoke]

the name needs to be set in a translation file

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/CraftRecipe#craftingRecipe_format

at the moment you have the tag AnySurfaceCraft, there's a different one for not needing a surface at all, iirc it's InHandCraft but it should be listed on the wiki somewhere

[glacial atlas]

i ended up just putting the spaces in the craftingID and it had the desired effect

i have one final question for the recipes

if i want to make it so a recipe needs to be next to a specific building (chopping block in my case) how could i implement that?

[willow tulip]

OnTest of the recipe, IIRC

(though the UI feedback of said 'failure' may not be clear to the player)

since I believe its designed to test if input ingredients are valid..

[glacial atlas]

yeah

[willow tulip]

Alternatively, I think you can make the chopping block a whole crafting station thing

[glacial atlas]

also looks like it needs lua coding which is beyond my skill level

[glacial atlas]

it already is one actually

[willow tulip]

Oh

[glacial atlas]

though it jsut opens the regular crafting menu

[willow tulip]

yea look at how... the pottery wheel works for example

Hmm, seems to be that it has a matching tag to the target crafting system?

craftRecipe MakeCeramicCrucibleSmall
    {
        timedAction = Craft_PotteryWheel,
        time = 100,
        Tags = PotteryWheel,
        SkillRequired = Pottery:1,
        xpAward = Pottery:25,
        category = Pottery,
        inputs (...)
        outputs (...)
    }

(trimmed inputs and outputs)

if you look up that tag (PotteryWheel), you get this:

entity Pottery_Wheel
    {
        component UiConfig
        {
            xuiSkin = default,
            entityStyle = ES_Pottery_Wheel,
            uiEnabled = true,
        }
        component CraftBench
        {
            Recipes = PotteryWheel,
        }

[glacial atlas]

ah alright i see

thanks

i was looking through the different crafting stations kinda scratching my head

[willow tulip]

I dunno if you can just define your own, but if it turns out you can plz report back because I really wanna know :0

[willow tulip]

Yea im pretty sure its the tags on the recipe and the Recipes = PotteryWheel, in the craftbench component that align the crafting menu to the station

(I picked pottery wheel because its simply with a tiny number of recipes)

[glacial atlas]

hmm

i can't find the chopping block in the workbench entities

[willow tulip]

WHat you do is, search for its exact ingame name in *.txt

then, that leads you to the english translation file, copy that translation tag (or at least, part of it..) and search for that.

[glacial atlas]

*.txt?

[willow tulip]

Yes, use a program that can search all files in a directory for phrases

target all .txt files

that is where entities, translations, recipes, etc live

in project zomboid\media\

[glacial atlas]

ah okay

can windows10's file explorer do that or am i misremembering?

[willow tulip]

it can tell you files yes, but not where in the files, get programmers notepad or notepad++ or something

(or a real IDE)

[glacial atlas]

ah nvm i found it with debug mode in game

[willow tulip]

Ok then, tag your recipes ChoppingBlock

(no other tags, unless you want them doable elsewhere as well)

[glacial atlas]

i'm adding "CanBeDoneFromFloor" because logs heavvy

[willow tulip]

thats prob fine

IIRC that means the ingredients can be on the floor, but otherwise crafting works as normal

[glacial atlas]

yup

yay my two mods are done

[willow tulip]

Nice

[glacial atlas]

alright just tested it out too

works as intended

waow i already got a subscriber

something something self promotion

[silent zealot]

Anyone know what security vulnerability this was?

And was it discovered by a modder poking the game internals?

[bronze yoke]

it was yes

[bright fog]

I vaguely remember mentions about that

Don't think anyone said what the vulnerability was tho

Was it Omar who mentioned it ?

[bronze yoke]

it was somebody i hadn't seen before

[frank elbow]

The thing I reported was minor compared to what this one appears to be

[frank elbow]

They've said their position on it is not sharing details to protect people, so anyone who knows is likely to do the same

[willow tulip]

I'll say TIS is very likely justified in emergency patching it.

Would be nice if TIS would focus a little more on save updating in the future. B42.12/.13/.14 have been rough.

[silent zealot]

Sounds fun. And also not very surprising when they are making custom multiplayer stuff in java instead of using an established engine and data standard.

[silent zealot]

They still haven't fixed the "if an object fails to load because of changes to the script then just reset the entire chunk it was found it"

I tried adjusting an object in a non functional mod to work in B42.13.2+ and on load it expected different data serialization and BOOM! You're naked and half your base in gone. Instead of something sane like "Object X failed to load, I'll discard object X and continue"

[willow tulip]

that sucks. Also find it weird when an object is removed from the game, if its in a container, everything AOK... if its on the ground... the tile is replaced with ?

Factorio on the other hand, almost goes too far in loading old saves

"You are trying to load a save from: the dawn of time. Some tile overlap may occur" as seemingly the only thing that is wrong is turrets changed sizes and now overlap each other in some places

Can't imagine how much it must suck having to ensure old saves always load from eons ago.

[frail ice]

Hi everyone, I'm looking for someone who could update the mod infected of The Last of Us. All the mod's code is available on GitHub, but it only works for version B41 and needs to be updated to B42.

We are also looking for someone to create a mod that would adjust the in-game voice chat, preventing voices from travelling through ceilings or walls. We have searched for a similar mod, but it seems that none exist.

Merci à tous et pour plus d'informations contactez moi via discord.

[blazing raven]

Anyone know a map that is JUST forest

[bright fog]

I already updated it for B42, there's 2 versions

But the B42 version is outdated

[dull moss]

hi
actually, question regarding this.

there are 2 exact funcs that have different args, how does that work?

[bronze yoke]

kahlua will determine which overload to call at runtime based on the types of the arguments

[dull moss]

ah, so i need to do 2 overwrites, one for each but with diff args, ok, ty

I assume dis is right

local original_RecipeCodeOnEat_consumeNicotine = RecipeCodeOnEat.consumeNicotine
function RecipeCodeOnEat.consumeNicotine(item, character)
    ETWExportedFunctions.smokingAddictionMath(character)
    original_RecipeCodeOnEat_consumeNicotine(item, character)
end

function RecipeCodeOnEat.consumeNicotine(item, character, percent)
    ETWExportedFunctions.smokingAddictionMath(character)
    original_RecipeCodeOnEat_consumeNicotine(item, character, percent)
end

EDIT: it works

hm, yea it aint working

ERROR: General      f:0, t:1772642067149> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown
    java.lang.RuntimeException: attempted index: consumeNicotine of non-table: null at KahluaThread.tableget(KahluaThread.java:1446).

on
local original_RecipeCodeOnEat_consumeNicotine = RecipeCodeOnEat.consumeNicotine

swapping for local original_RecipeOnEat_consumeNicotine = RecipeCodeOnEat().consumeNicotine
gives

ERROR: General      f:0, t:1772642586825> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown
    java.lang.RuntimeException: Object table 0x1394026142 did not have __call metatable set at KahluaUtil.fail(KahluaUtil.java:99).

I think if i combine things long enough eventually I'll get it
Anyone knows a mod that does it so I look up correct syntax?

[bronze yoke]

you don't need to do anything weird like this

RecipeCodeOnEat.consumeNicotine is a magic box that, when called, picks the right java method to call based on the arguments you give it

there is only one of it

[dull moss]

This line

local original_RecipeCodeOnEat_consumeNicotine = RecipeCodeOnEat.consumeNicotine

crashes saying that RecipeCodeOnEat is null

So I'm a bit confused

I double-checked with javadocs, no typos

[dull moss]

^

[bronze yoke]

are you definitely on latest b42?

[dull moss]

today I learned that if you overwrite funcs you gotta restart the game fully, not just reload lua from main menu

I had a typo initially, so i fixed it and reloaded the lua from main menu

(it works)

xd

[bright fog]

I don't think that's true

[dull moss]

Well then idk, maybe something went wrong and i fucked it up in some other place

[mellow frigate]

has someone been able to update reliably X & Y rotations (on each render cycle) for InventoryItem in WorldObjects ? I've tried with 0,360 / -180,180 and some other weird ranges and the result is always similarly unsatisfying: the item is blinking (invisible on some-most- updates). ```lua
setWorldZRotation-- works wonders
setWorldXRotation-- blinks
setWorldYRotation-- blinks

[paper ibex]

Try not to override the vanilla function; instead, you can hook into it and return the original function once finished

[dull moss]

look the snippet higher up

[paper ibex]

return it

[bronze yoke]

the original function doesn't return anything

[dull moss]

oh lmao u are right

9 months break hurts

[paper ibex]

yeah even void func, just return it

[dull moss]

oi vei

I wasnt returning in other places either

local original_ISFixVehiclePartAction_perform = ISFixVehiclePartAction.perform
---Overwriting ISFixVehiclePartAction:perform() here to insert ETW logic catching player doing any kind of repairs
---@diagnostic disable-next-line: duplicate-set-field
function ISFixVehiclePartAction:perform()
    local player = self.character
    local modData = ETWCommonFunctions.getETWModData(player)
    ---@type DebugAndNotificationArgs
    logETW("ETW Logger | ISFixVehiclePartAction:perform(): caught")
    local conditionBefore = self.item:getCondition()
    carPartStartingCondition = conditionBefore
    logETW(
        "ETW Logger | ISFixVehiclePartAction.perform(): car part conditon: "
            .. conditionBefore
            .. " VehiclePartRepairs="
            .. modData.VehiclePartRepairs
    )
    original_ISFixVehiclePartAction_perform(self)
end

wait but why

do i need to return

if someone else overwrites in this way both our funcs run, no?

you store the original func, run ur stuff and then run original func, no?

oh, nevermind, I do return original func when it has return

local original_forageSystem_addOrDropItems = forageSystem.addOrDropItems
function forageSystem.addOrDropItems(_character, _inventory, _items, _discardItems)
    if ETWCommonLogicChecks.HerbalistShouldExecute() and SBvars.TraitsLockSystemCanGainPositive then
        local player = getPlayer()
        local detailedDebug = detailedDebug()
        if not _discardItems then
            for item in iterList(_items) do
                logETW("ETW Logger | forageSystem.addOrDropItems(): picking up foraging item: " .. item:getFullType())
                if filteredForageHashMap[item:getFullType()] then
                    local modData = ETWCommonFunctions.getETWModData(player)
                    modData.HerbsPickedUp = modData.HerbsPickedUp
                        + ((SBvars.AffinitySystem and modData.StartingTraits.Herbalist) and 1 * SBvars.AffinitySystemGainMultiplier or 1)
                    logETW("ETW Logger | forageSystem.addOrDropItems(): modData.HerbsPickedUp: " .. modData.HerbsPickedUp)
                    if
                        not player:hasTrait(CharacterTrait.HERBALIST)
                        and modData.HerbsPickedUp >= SBvars.HerbalistHerbsPicked
                        and SBvars.TraitsLockSystemCanGainPositive
                    then
                        player:getTraits():add(CharacterTrait.HERBALIST)
                        ETWCommonFunctions.addRecipes(CharacterTrait.HERBALIST)
                        if notification() then
                            HaloTextHelper.addTextWithArrow(player, getText("UI_trait_Herbalist"), true, HaloTextHelper.getColorGreen())
                        end
                        ETWCommonFunctions.traitSound(player)
                    end
                end
            end
        end
    end
    return (original_forageSystem_addOrDropItems(_character, _inventory, _items, _discardItems))
end

man not checking ur own code for a while cripples a man

[paper ibex]

The hook is meant to return the original for other use cases; so don't break it.

[dull moss]

I dont though?

[paper ibex]

yes, both run, just add extra code

[dull moss]

if I do

local original_RecipeCodeOnEat_consumeNicotine = RecipeCodeOnEat.consumeNicotine
function RecipeCodeOnEat.consumeNicotine(item, character)
    -- code abc here
    original_RecipeCodeOnEat_consumeNicotine(item, character)
end

and someone else does

local original_RecipeCodeOnEat_consumeNicotine = RecipeCodeOnEat.consumeNicotine
function RecipeCodeOnEat.consumeNicotine(item, character)
    -- code xyz here
    original_RecipeCodeOnEat_consumeNicotine(item, character)
end

both will run, no?

[bronze yoke]

to nitpick, it doesn't 'return the original function',it returns the return value of the original function

it is not necessary for functions that don't return anything in the first place

and you will usually break a lot of stuff if you forget to return from a function that does return something, so it's unlikely a mistake with that will make it very far

[dull moss]

yep

[bronze yoke]

what's important for compatibility is the storing and calling of the original function

[dull moss]

I guess technically you can add a return from func that doesnt return anything so in case that someone/TIS will ever make it return something you dont need to change anything

[paper ibex]

yep, me lazy like that

[dull moss]

it would take me more effort to remember this tbh

and I'll end up with part of code that follows this convention and part that doesnt

Its probably possible to setup lua pipeline on github that would check so every func retruns a value

eh, too much effort

[paper ibex]

just use lua linter no?

[dull moss]

true, I only use formatter tbh

anyone here uses vscode-lua?

Actually, lemme rephrase, "what lineters y'all use for lua in vscode and do you recommend it?"

[paper ibex]

my combo lmao

extra is ls-lint, lefthook for pre-commit, and selene

oh, and Lua Debug (actboy168) for offline test suite

[bright fog]

stylua ?

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/EmmyLua

[paper ibex]

stylua is a formatter

[willow tulip]

@finite dune Uhhhh... Any particular reason my mod "Realistic Car physics" is now This item has been removed from the community because it violates Steam Community & Content Guidelines. It is only visible to you. If you believe your item has been removed by mistake, please contact Steam Support. ?

[dull moss]

I mean it says right there, contact steam support

I doubt TIS have anything to do with it

Prob someone reported it or sth

Steam takes down mods first and then you can contact if it was not justified

It's much easier legally for them this way

To be fair DMCA strikes work the same way on big platforms, when platform gets a notice they shut down ur stuff and if u disagree they unblock or whatever

[willow tulip]

Somehow it feels targeted 1 day after they update the game for 'security risks'

[dull moss]

I mean

did u do some sketchy stuff in there? xd

[willow tulip]

Nope.

[dull moss]

was it java mod? maybe java mods got nuked

[willow tulip]

Was.

[dull moss]

I imagine vulnerability was on java side