mod_development

[willow tulip]

A totally sane number of sandbox options:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/232196827577974784/1464559655085932555/image.png?ex=6975e8f7&is=69749777&hm=b611b321dfbbc87ccb39f9abc58b19300b8e7f83779111eb440b532a4ce5b6a3&

@queen oasis Might be able to add hooks for your mod too

yea, the 'mult general' is for all world containers

[hot void]

i legit wanna give up on the tattoo parlor rn

[queen oasis]

I was curious if it's lua or java?

[willow tulip]

Java, it just rewrites getCapacity.

[queen oasis]

dang. I figured but I keep hoping there's a lua solution

[willow tulip]

Not without overwriting the transaction manager (for mp) since SOMEONE restricted all getCapacity calls to 100 looks at devs

[queen oasis]

that was my hiccup too

[willow tulip]

But then mine also breaks all other limits, like, floor limits, player limits, 50 capacity for backpack limits, 100 capatity for world containers, etc.

[queen oasis]

anyone wants this on their server isn't going to care about that

[willow tulip]

(all adjustable, by default those sandbox settings do nothing as shown)

[willow tulip]

Pretty much.

it 'breaks them' as in, its settings arnt restricted by them

(though player limit still has the 12~ whatever strength overweight limit, but if you crank the player capacity you can carry over 50)

50 is honestly an annoying amount to be limited to when there is so many 40 weight objects you gotta drop everything to pickup -_-

[queen oasis]

isn't there a check on the server for how many 'items' are in a container?

[willow tulip]

thats a server setting and defaults to unlimited

[queen oasis]

nice. I didn't really look in to it, I think I saw someone else mention it somewhere

[hot void]

ayyyyyyyy it works Yippy

[quiet fulcrum]

anyone know what happened to Events.OnFillWorldObjectContextMenu in b42.13? I used to be able to get the player under the right click context menu from a global var called clickedPlayer but that no longer works

[hot void]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-alive-gif-11205409

[quiet fulcrum]

found it. If anyone else is looking for it now it's ISWorldObjectContextMenu.fetchVars.clickedPlayer

[mellow frigate]

How can I enter in TileGeometryState ?

[frank elbow]

Sane? What does that mean? https://github.com/omarkmu/pz-omichat/blob/main/Contents/mods/OmiChat/media/sandbox-options.txt

[willow tulip]

.. Might I recommend you use another page or two? 😛

[frank elbow]

I switched away from sandbox options entirely and rolled my own configuration for v2

[willow tulip]

facepalm

[frank elbow]

It was definitely too excessive for sandbox options, had to override the menu to make it usable

Way happier with my custom config

[willow tulip]

lol.

pic?

[willow tulip]

interesting

[frank elbow]

Seems like Left Shift + F6 from the code in IngameState, although I could've sworn there was a debug function to just switch to it

[mellow frigate]

I think that's to quit the mode, not to enter it.

[frank elbow]

IngameState.java

if (this.showTileGeometryEditor || GameKeyboard.isKeyPressed(66) && GameKeyboard.isKeyDown(42)) {
    this.showTileGeometryEditor = false;
    DebugLog.General.debugln("Activating TileGeometryState.");
    this.redirectState = TileGeometryState.checkInstance();
    return GameStateMachine.StateAction.Yield;
}

Worth noting that you have to be in debug

[mellow frigate]

yeah, I got you on that. I tried and I jumped to high speed, no other change that I could see

[frank elbow]

Sorry, that's my bad—66 is not F6, it's F8

[mellow frigate]

Thanx

[mellow frigate]

is there a reliable way to get the tilesetname of an IsoSprite / IsoObject or should I pray and split the sprite getName ?

[willow tulip]

getTileName ?

returns stuff like 'Mahogany corner counter' and 'Chrome fridge'

I use it to detect if its furniture or not.

if (this.getParent() != null && this.getParent().getTileName() != null && this.getType() != null) = furniture.

though thats being called from the itemContainer class

hence the getParent()

[mellow frigate]

lol, I messed up my code (again) and used string.gmatch on 'a'. ```lua
string.gmatch(a,"pattern")-- a is not defined.. locally

[mellow frigate]

How can I know the keyNumber / keyboard key association ?

[willow tulip]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9799-key-code-reference/

apparently there is also 'zombie.input.Keys' global..

(though im not sure exactly how you use that)

[bronze yoke]

in your own code you should just reference the Keyboard constants

[willow tulip]

^ Would be best yea

[frank elbow]

Seconding what albion said, but for the sake of reviewing Java it's just LWJGL codes. So, the forum post Black Moons listed, or any resource that lists those out

[mellow frigate]

Thanx all. For understanding decompiled vanilla code, knowing the association it not an option.

few days ago, I had print of unexpected 10000 & 10001, any idea where those could come from ?

[frank elbow]

Those refer to mouse buttons

Constants for those are in the Mouse class, for reference

[dense yoke]

made me a little tool. think other people might want something like this?

I'm hoping that I'll be able to do all this in game soon

[mellow frigate]

why is reverse colored in my UI in a lua file ? can I use reverse as a local variable name or will I create problems ?

myTable={reverse=true}

[bronze yoke]

you can use that name, no idea

[frank elbow]

Just to clarify, assuming it's a valid identifier you can use whatever you want as a local variable name

[frank elbow]

I'm sure people would be interested—there have been quite a few tools like this (I think the UI of what you've shown here is my favorite so far)

I just use a web server + discord bot to manage mine

[frank elbow]

To answer the question about why it might be colored btw—some language server extensions, including EmmyLua in my experience, seem to be fairly aggressive about assigning semantic colors to built-ins. You can see this by trying to name something type & observing the function color. So I'd guess it could be getting confused due to string.reverse, although idr seeing that issue

[mellow frigate]

thanx

[dense yoke]

Yeah, I should have looked some tools before setting off to make my own. Course, ya know... kinda easy these days. I'mma keep working at it, get a working windows version up (kinda hard to test given I'm running on all linux.. plus I'd have to get a server running on windows as well). Alas, add a bunch of features and whatnot as well, just see how comprehensive this can be.

[frank elbow]

I hope my response didn't come across as “oh, yet another server management tool”—it's always neat to see what people cook up for those. Hope the new features turn out well 🙏

[dense yoke]

Nah, you're good, thank you thank you ❤️

[fervent wraith]

Hey all, Looking for info/help.

We’re building a fairly large “living blackboard” style marketplace + contracts mod and have hit what looks like a B42 multiplayer inventory desync issue. Hoping to sanity-check whether others have found a clean solution, or if this is just a known B42 limitation right now.

The mod we’re building:

• In-world chalkboard-style UI
• Player-to-player market (buy/sell)
• Notice board for messages and trade offers
• Job / contract system where players turn in items to earn credits & tokens
• No physical rewards from contracts (credits/tokens only)
• Server-authoritative, snapshot-based client rendering

The core problem:
In B42 multiplayer, removing items from a player’s inventory outside of a timed action often results in ghost items on the client.

Symptoms:

• Item is removed server-side
• Client still shows the item
• Attempting to drop/place it throws errors like:
  attempted index: getActualWeight of non-table: null
• Relog fixes it (full inventory resync)

What currently works (workaround):
For buying items from a market:

• We do NOT add items directly to inventory
• Items are spawned on the ground near the player
• This avoids ghost items completely

We would prefer to add items directly to inventory server-side, but this has proven unreliable in MP.

What does not work:
For contract turn-in (credits/tokens only, no physical rewards), we’ve tried:

• server-side Remove(item)
• removeItemOnServer
• forced container sync
• requestSync / transmitModData
• client-side pre-remove
• hybrid client/server removal

All of the above eventually result in ghost items.

Key observation:
Selling items works reliably because it uses a timed action.
Contract turn-in does not, and that seems to be the critical difference.

Current contract flow:
Client sends:
sendClientCommand("TheBlackBoard", "ContractsTurnInReq", { contractId = X })

Server:

• validates requirements
• removes items
• awards credits/tokens

Result:

• items listed for removal often become ghosted client-side

What we want (ideal):

• Clean removal of required items
• No drop-to-floor hacks
• No ghost items
• No relog required
• Currently I have a hotfix that allows players to still use item in inventory and keep it without having to relog to clear inventory ect but its not ideal.

Questions for other modders / devs:

1. Is there any engine-safe way in B42 MP to remove items from a player inventory without a timed action?
2. Has anyone successfully reused an existing timed action (sell / transfer / craft) for “virtual” removal?
3. Is this a known B42 MP limitation expected to be fixed later?
4. Are there internal APIs we may be missing that handle inventory removal + replication safely?
5. Is the recommended pattern effectively:
   “All inventory removal in MP must go through a timed action”?

Extra context:

• Item IDs are normalized and server-authoritative
• Client is render-only using server snapshots
• This isn’t a Lua logic issue; it appears to be replication/state related
• Every stable solution we’ve seen either:
  • routes through selling
  • or drops items to the floor

If anyone has a confirmed working pattern (or can confirm this is just a B42 limitation), that would help a lot. Happy to share snippets or test cases if useful.

Thanks

[mellow frigate]

If you've done the removal server side and correctly called the according client-update function, I think you just need to refresh the inventory page once the removal is taken into account client side. Note that the time deletion is received cannot be predicted. So you need both a sendServerCommand with the unique id of the item being removed and then you check OnTick client side until the removal has been done automatically and then you refresh the inventory.

But if you really initiate it client side (apparently with a sendClientCommand), you could as well initiate it client side with a "silent" TimedAction.

[fervent wraith]

Thanks, that makes sense and lines up with what we’re seeing.

We are already doing server-side removal only, and we’ve tried a few variations of client refresh / requestSync, but we’ve been refreshing too early. What you’re describing sounds like explicitly waiting for the deletion packet to be applied client-side before touching the inventory UI.

Your point about initiating it client-side with a “silent” TimedAction is interesting as well that would effectively keep everything inside an engine-approved path while still being visually instant.

A couple of clarifying questions if you don’t mind:

1. Have you used either the OnTick confirmation pattern or a silent TimedAction approach in a released B42 MP mod, or is this more of an experimental workaround?
2. For the polling approach, are you tracking removal via the unique item ID until:
   item:getContainer() == nil
   or by scanning inventories for absence?
3. If you’ve used a silent TimedAction, are you reusing an existing action (sell / transfer / drop) or a custom one?
4. In either approach, do you ever see edge cases where the deletion never arrives client-side (lag / reconnect), and how do you fail-safe that?

We’ve found that touching inventory too early (even a forced refresh) can resurrect ghost references, which is why we’ve been leaning toward timed actions as the safest long-term path especially since this mod is a core framework with planned submods.

[mellow frigate]

I never removed from server withotu a timed action.

1/ OnTick synchro after reception of onServerCommand, I've used a lot, B41 & B42 alike.

2/I never removed from server without a timed action. I 'ont remember doing that

3/ custom "silent" timed action.

4/ I've never noticed such edge case. I do not fail-safe. I just ensure my model does not depend on receiving an answer.

About the delay, I can tell that equipping an item (that was in player inventory) from the server side takes systematically around 1s to occure visually on the client (client & server on same computer, 0 ping)

and same delay for fforce-droping from server side

[fervent wraith]

Thanks a lot for all the detailed replies, that was extremely helpful.

The clarification about always using TimedActions for inventory removal, the OnTick sync usage, and especially the note about the 1s visual delay even at 0 ping really explains the behavior we’ve been seeing. That confirms we were fighting engine timing rather than logic bugs.

We’ll fully commit to a custom silent TimedAction approach and keep the client render-only instead of forcing syncs. Appreciate you taking the time to share experience it saved us a lot of guesswork

[foggy finch]

I need to know, is there a way to know whenever a player has, either read a book or not(that would be for B41 and B42) since i kinda need to know if someone has read a book or not. (Whenever someone answers, please do a reply with ping. That would be appreciated, thanks.)

[verbal yew]

ISReadABook.lua

[bright fog]

You need to sync actions after doing them on the server

Doing it on the server is the right way

TIS has made guides about timed actions for B42.13

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/TIS_Modding_Guides

[fervent wraith]

thanks, I ended up making a custom TimedAction and was able to archive the outcome I wanted. Spent a week working it out, come here to ask got it fixed in 1h 🙂

thanks for that link, will be useful later.

[foggy finch]

That seems to help, but it was more for vanilla books that i was looking for them to be read.

[upper moat]

Any chance you can help me out with that. I am trying to fix our mod (storage o matic 3000) but I think that goes into the lua folders and I don't know how to add it I tried looking at how other mods do it but with my knowledge that all looks like gibberish 🙁

[willow tulip]

what does your mod do?

[upper moat]

It adds 4 storage machines with 4 different capacties.
now i have to say i downloaded the 42.132 java capactity remove mod and it does work with that but thats a hassle for other players to understand.
I think it should also work without that mod and with the mod multiplayer limit breaker as i do have other mods that use that one and also works but i cant make it work with the MLB mod 😛
i think you need to have some stuff in LUA (setacapacity stuff you was talking about) for it work with MLB mod and thats where i am stuck

[mellow frigate]

I have a problem that when I enter specific modded vehicles (more precisely the three Trailers from AutoTsar Tailers B42), my character view is under the ground, wich is most of the time pitch black. I do not find the significant difference in the vehicle definition compared to others but I just noticed that during enter action, the Anim Monitor indicates something strange that may be related: variable 'bundervehicle' turns from false to true. This does not occure when entering other vehicles.

The character variable bundervehicle is associated to IsoGameCharacter.isUnderVehicleRadius(float radius) called with radius = 0.3

Anyone has a clue on what parameter in the vehicle configuration I should look at to avoid being considered undervehicle when entering them ?

[willow tulip]

With realistic car physics/total capacity override you should be able to set the capacity to anything just using the regular game files

(pretty sure the limit remover mod would work too)

Do note: all of those require java install to work in MP

[upper moat]

yeah but than you also need to add LUA code right if you dont use the java stuff like realistic car physics ?

yeah exactly all use java but there is also a way without using java but that requieres some LUA code as well

[willow tulip]

No, you can't do it in LUA for multiplayer period.

[upper moat]

i thougt you also meant that when you was talking about setcapacity

[willow tulip]

With the java mod, you can use the game files OR setcapacity on other objects to set their capacity to anyyythingg you want.

without the java mod, nothing can exceed 100 capacity in MP

(Capacity limit can only be broken by LUA in SP)

[upper moat]

yeah i understand but the mod "Multiplayer Weight Limit Breaker" also lets you do this without java

[willow tulip]

Weird. Haven't seen that mod

[upper moat]

the mod [B42][MP/SP]Building Craft uses that one and i can set storage boxes that the mod makes also to 1000+ and it works

also in MP

[willow tulip]

Nice

[upper moat]

yeah its perfect for ppl who dont wanna do the java thingy as you know, not all ppl read what you need to do 😛

so i thougt you knew that mod also 😄

[wraith flame]

todays cook:

[willow tulip]

Never seen it before.. the code confuses the hell outta me tbh

its got stuff like

oh wait its just using those functions to declare other functions

thasts uh, a choice

[upper moat]

yeah im no coder and understand very little but i tried to use the buildingcraft mod and rework it for my mod but that didnt work out 😛

[willow tulip]

Yea im not sure if this fixes the fact that getCapacity() won't ever return higher then 100, unless hes getting capacity by reflection instead.

yea im not seeing any evidence they deal with capacity at all

[upper moat]

tbh i have no clue, but i did set the capacity to 1000 for the crate section from that building mod and it did work

[willow tulip]

interesting.

and it stores over 100?

(tested)

[upper moat]

gimme 5 min and ill test again

this was on 13.1 not 13.2 and i do play 13.2 now

also need to delete the java folder 😛

[willow tulip]

zombie folder

java folder is for dedicated servers

and may or may not contain a zombie folder

[upper moat]

yeah i meant the zombie folder but i said java cause its java related crap :p

[willow tulip]

yea lol I suspected

[bright fog]

What am I looking at ?

[willow tulip]

Dunno but let him cook, maybe we'll get zomboid bowling?

[wraith flame]

projectile based damage system, with wall pen

[bright fog]

Looks like my raycasting lib

I mean it's not

But I did something similar

[willow tulip]

ok but how do we see zombies on the other side of walls to shoot them?

[wraith flame]

its overriding vanilla damage system

its for my RP project

i needed to override vanilla damage to avoid perma deaths. i made a tazer for police using actual projectile detection instead of hitscan like vanilla

and it worked so well i just decided to cut out vanilla damage completely

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367717671745224704/1464364993993506868/Screen_Recording_2026-01-23_at_4.02.47_PM.mov?ex=69772ded&is=6975dc6d&hm=adbd45586a9c30dee4778ebe496251670a6d2c7206c2a6133e5e476a16ebc8a3&

[willow tulip]

from what little I can tell, I think this mod reduces weight in the container, not increases capacity?

[willow tulip]

cop screams 'hey you' repeatly before tazering person doing nothing at all, seems accurate.

[wraith flame]

loool thats just normal. yell https://discord.com/channels/@me/774036860628369478/1463968296205418528

[mellow frigate]

you compute everything server side ?

[bronze yoke]

the man is holding a shotgun next to a bloody corpse!

[wraith flame]

i decoupled from the game tick i run everything in a rust backend OUTSIDE the game

i have like maybe 300 lines of lua code on server

just a dumb pipe

[bright fog]

Oooh using a rope for the taser is interesting, what do you attack it to ?

[upper moat]

this is in the sandbox setting

[wraith flame]

its actually not a model its jut a line render i used math on to split innto segments and appy the droop

[bright fog]

Interesting

[mellow frigate]

and you feed your backend with the updated terrain and characters ?

[bright fog]

Oh it's not the vanilla rope ? Ah yea vanilla ropes aren't curved

[wraith flame]

its the brains for all the logic to avoid lua soup loool

[willow tulip]

Hmm. shrugs

[wraith flame]

and theres alot you can do if you decompile and look 😉

[bright fog]

I did make a raycasting lib that runs Lua side and runs well tbh

[upper moat]

yeah one sec im going ingame now

[bright fog]

We are aware of it don't worry lol

[willow tulip]

Basically the LUA mods work by faking stuff in the UI, and this one seems to... take over the transaction logic entirely

But it can't see it actually reading capacity the normal way anywhere

[wraith flame]

i got fully functioning MP npcs as well

[willow tulip]

And reading capacity the normal way is hard limited to 100 as a return value if your not using reflection to get the value

[upper moat]

yeah i didnt test it i just looked at it and thougt it worked anyawy so one sec

[bright fog]

Using your Rust thing too ?

[upper moat]

yeah i didnt even think about that 😄

[willow tulip]

I can't even find the word 'capacity' in the source lol

[wraith flame]

its done mostly in java that one but any time there is logic to run its always in run

rust*

[bright fog]

How do you link it to the game ? You modified the Java ?

[wraith flame]

i did some slick rickery

[bright fog]

File writting then file reading ?

[wraith flame]

nopeà

its real time bi-directional

[dense yoke]

Does that have like... all the other functions? Like can I see what mods are installed, players connected, and run commands? (not saying it doesn't or anything, just wondering about the functionality of that mod and if I should continue developing this is another exist that already has these things)

[wraith flame]

its my personal dev env dont worry im not releasing that

[willow tulip]

Iv been wondering if one can abuse the new discord intergration feature to have PZ talk to custom discord bot?

[bronze yoke]

new? 😅

[willow tulip]

Its not new?

[bright fog]

Nop

[dense yoke]

ah gotcha. yeah mines actually personal too, though I'm putting it on the github and people can find it ;p

[willow tulip]

Never noticed it before -_-

[bright fog]

Was just broken back then and required a patch I believe

[willow tulip]

lol

[bronze yoke]

it's old enough to be broken

[bright fog]

https://discord.com/channels/908422782554107904/1252486513774825555

[dense yoke]

im considering making a Docker image and all that

[wraith flame]

anyways il be releasing a lite RP framework when my server goes up

[willow tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-that-narrows-it-down-clear-now-its-clear-now-i-understand-now-gif-21256627

"old enough to be broken" in zomboid could mean anything!

[bronze yoke]

sure but i told you the topic before i told you that 😅

[willow tulip]

Btw I think I figured out a relating factor in the 'can't hit zombies with guns' thing.

[willow tulip]

yes it was a joke

when I can't hit zombies, I reload and CAN hit zombies again... for a couple bullets...

I'll bet that TIS isn't reloading the correct magazine into the gun on server side -_-

and its loading mags with low bullet count

so it thinks your bullets arnt bloody existing -_-

(I believe its only happened to me after I started having multiple partially consumed mags)

Why is it TIS seems to have such problem with crafting/etc actually acting on the item the client says to use -_-;

[wraith flame]

this is what i got done so far, ofcourse everything is properly replicated for MP

[upper moat]

this is with just those 2 mods

and no zombie folder

[willow tulip]

Interesting.

Does it work on non-crates?

[upper moat]

these 2 mods

[flint whale]

Hi all, my mod need to rename an item, which is done like so:

item:setName("xxxxx)
item:setCustomName(true)

This renames the item which is in the Player's inventory. But when moving the item across containers or relogging, the name is reset. Does anyone know if this is by design, or if there is the right way of renaming items?

[willow tulip]

Im'a still stick with my java solution just because im lazy and its instantly retroactive 😛

[upper moat]

Currently Compatible Capacity Expansion Mods:

1. Expand Furniture Capacity https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3573441967
2. Building Craft https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3459887404
   3.Vehicle Container Expansion https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3623536023
3. Backpack Pocket Patch https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3651104219

this is stated in this discription

[willow tulip]

are you doing it client or server side?

[willow tulip]

Ah k, neat.

[upper moat]

but for vehicals you coudl also use damn capacity for the cars from KI5

and that also works

[flint whale]

I do that client side, I was just thinking that I propably need to do this server side as well. Is that what I missed?

[upper moat]

but he deleted the mod, i did reup it in private settings

[wraith flame]

server authority issue the server has to set the name and notify the clients

[willow tulip]

Generally best to do changes server side, then use sync commands to transfer it to client side

[upper moat]

so in the code he had stuff like
-- Oshkosh M1082/M1095 (TruckBed per variant)
DAMN_CapacityData.registerVehiclePart("Base.TrailerM1082", "TruckBed", 380)
DAMN_CapacityData.registerVehiclePart("Base.TrailerM1095", "TruckBed", 490)

-- W900 (TruckBed per variant)
DAMN_CapacityData.registerVehiclePart("Base.SemiTrailerLowBed", "TruckBed", 1080)
DAMN_CapacityData.registerVehiclePart("Base.SemiTrailerVan", "TruckBed", 1080)

[willow tulip]

ah.

[upper moat]

amoung other code

[flint whale]

got it, will try that. thanks

[upper moat]

but just 4 lua files

[willow tulip]

Neat. Realistic car physics has its own trunk override now too.

[upper moat]

thats why i thougt you knew about all this and asked if you could help me 😄

[willow tulip]

(and HP and weight override)

[upper moat]

yeah but i dont have that added cause of the java stuff

[willow tulip]

Yea.

[upper moat]

now if i just play with my friend its ok, but if i want to open it for other ppl it can be a hassle right

[willow tulip]

Basically it looks like this mod ignores vanilla capacity entirely and uses its own 3rd party setting.

[upper moat]

tbh i have no clue, i was just happy it worked without the java overide stuff

but that leaves my mod still broken so i thougt i just ask for help 😄

cause i cant fix it cause i have no clue what im looking at 😛

[bronze yoke]

FWIW vanilla item renaming doesn't even work currently

[upper moat]

yeah i think i used this mod back in B41, cause i do like/want it

[flint whale]

Would it work if the item is from my own mod?

[bronze yoke]

i mean that the vanilla context menu option that lets you rename things (just bags i think?) doesn't work at all

[willow tulip]

Your thinking of a different mod 😛 it was never ported to B41

[willow tulip]

I left a suggestion on the mod authors page to use reflection (that'd make more mods work automatically)

[upper moat]

ow i thougt car physics was also on B41 🙈

[willow tulip]

"better car physics" is, Realistic Car physics is the mod I made 😛

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3559765660

[upper moat]

yeah i know your mod for sure, i just thougt it was the other one also 😛

[upper moat]

if that would work that be awesome, thnx for your time and help 🙂

and i might take a look at your mod aswell and hope it doesnt break with the othe stuff 😛

[dense yoke]

oh nice, I literally just added that mod to my dedicated server a couple hrs ago

put a little message to others on how to install it, hopefully its not too complicated for the kids who may or may not be on the server ;p

[willow tulip]

Good news is as long as the beta features are turned off, not having it installed just means vanilla physics

[wraith flame]

need you one of these for easy player installs 🙂

[dense yoke]

This one requires a manual installation

[willow tulip]

Yea iv considered it at some point.

[dense yoke]

or atleast, part of it needs to be manually installed

[wraith flame]

everything needs to be automatic that way stupid people can enjoy it too

[willow tulip]

Heres what im working on now:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/908422783049007116/1464745898222420059/image.png?ex=69773f2b&is=6975edab&hm=7a4c6ee4b571b0d87cc0060c0684c3e1a66d1dd7d94c34c8d7daa030466d642d&

[upper moat]

whats your max container cap ? or do you only touch trunks?

[wraith flame]

im aiming for 75-100 online players per server with multiple hives

for clarification, im not running any zombies its strictly RP server

and map is restricted size

[willow tulip]

that mod only touches trunks, but 100,000 or so 😛

the screenshot is from 'Total Capacity Override', a beta mod part of moons mods pack

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3587204390

[upper moat]

dude 100k

[willow tulip]

Yes I felt silly. Realistic car physics will let you drive cars over 10,000KG weight though.

[upper moat]

back in B41 we had 15k on our storageomatic and lagged the hell out when it was loaded to 11k

[willow tulip]

yea I don't recommend actually storing that much lol

unless its also stupidily heavy items

[upper moat]

you dont say 😛

true that

[willow tulip]

its just, you COULD if you wanted to, scale it that high 😛

becasuse I thought... whats the point of breaking limits if im just going to have slightly less sane limits?

[upper moat]

btw i havent played yet as im making a server atm, but with animals, are there trailers that can handle more then 1 cow ?

[willow tulip]

No, truely insane limits that nobody in their right mind would ever need more then because the game would have already crashed is the way.

[upper moat]

well 100 vs 5k is already huge 😄

but i get your point yes 😛

some ppl play on supercomupters @work 😉

[willow tulip]

I don't recall being able to move more then 1 cow at a time IIRC -_- but my memory is fuzzy.

there are mods that add more 'animal capacity' to horse trailers/etc

IIRC

[upper moat]

also maybe it is less laggy in B42 cause i also had lag when opening cheat menu items

and now i dont lagg at all

i so love this one

cause all those big fish and animal carcases weight a lot 😛

[willow tulip]

B42.12 had some REALLY bad lags with item counts

B42.13 seems to have fixed it and will happily support a few 1000 items in a container

[upper moat]

yeah i waited till MP got released cause i dont play SP

im too cool for school 😛

also too old

[willow tulip]

Stuff on ground is laggier then in containers too

[upper moat]

but who cares 😛

[willow tulip]

IMO excessive container capacity is for organization though, so you can actually put all of X into one container instead of spread across 15 stacked boxes unable to ever find what you need again -_-

[upper moat]

yeah but that why my mod needs to work, its like the AE2 from miecraft, we always dumped everything in the computer and craft from there 😄

[willow tulip]

and the fact everyones (at least hoarders like me) base becomes a crate stack is... ewww..

[upper moat]

unless you need a spefici table.machine to make it offcoruse

yeah so pray my mod works 😛

[willow tulip]

yea I don't plan to have everything in one container 😛 but I do plan to have all 25 shotguns iv found on cop zombies in one container yaknow?!?

[upper moat]

it has 3k limit now with that java limiter as he has it capped on 3k

[wraith flame]

add pagination to your storage it will help alot

[willow tulip]

yeaaaaaaa I don't get why people would just increase it to 3k lol

or rather, limit it to 3k

[upper moat]

btw that MLB mod also comes with cheat fast inventory transfersetting

😛

[willow tulip]

like.. if your gonna fix limits... fix them to be totally broken and let the player decide 😛 its a sandbox game

[flint whale]

Hi channel, I use ScriptManager.instance:getItem(xxx):getDisplayName() to get an item name from its template. This works fine Client Side, but server side, this is returning the Item's type name. Anyone know why or how to tget an item name from its template on the server side?

[willow tulip]

Yea thats a lot easier to fix in LUA afaik

[upper moat]

yeah and i dont think you can just edit 1 class file cause its compiled right

[willow tulip]

I should prob add that to my capacity override mod lol

[upper moat]

😛

[wraith flame]

you override it

[willow tulip]

its java you actually can just edit 1 class

[upper moat]

yeah but you cant complile 1 java file right

[willow tulip]

yes you can.

[wraith flame]

ye its called a patch

[upper moat]

as it looks for the other files aswel ?

[willow tulip]

you compile it against the game, but the end result is you just have a 1 file patch to send to players

[upper moat]

yeah but i dont have java stuff anymore 🙁

and too lazy to install

[willow tulip]

.....

How does that change how java works? 😛

[upper moat]

dont have a compiler

[wraith flame]

some things need to be done in java for PZ. java executes before any lua does so sometimes there is no choice

[willow tulip]

.... the compiler comes with the java SDK thats 2 clicks to install.

[upper moat]

duuuuudeeeeeees im a n00b 🙁

[willow tulip]

and you only need it to create java mods.. not to use them

Installing java mods in zomboid = Copy folder from mod to PZ folder.. done

[upper moat]

im old and lazy 😛

yeah that i know but how to edit all that shit... 🤷‍♂️

[wraith flame]

its the same shit just looks different

[upper moat]

well its a class file i need the java file right

in order to change it ?

[wraith flame]

you decompile the games jar

[dense yoke]

Just tried some "project zomboid" server tools I found.. regarding server installation, they don't do it like I did which was set it up as a systemd service smh. Perhaps I'll work on automating the funcationality of installing a server and creating a system d service under a different username for my own mod

[wraith flame]

you should make it work headless as well incase someone is hosting on a vps

[dense yoke]

mhmhmh

good idea

my current mod doesnt do any installation stuff, just basic server management, updating mods, sending commands, viewing logs and users. something to look into

[cyan locust]

Anyone here who doesn't speak english as their native language? Have you ever tried PZ's localization in your language and how was it?

[wraith flame]

oi satana

perkele

https://tenor.com/view/my-summer-car-satsuma-crash-gif-27428379

[paper ibex]

Hey everyone, just a reminder that print() is a major performance(1) antipattern in Project Zomboid mods, particularly at scale.
Removing prints entirely in release builds is strongly recommended.

For those needing logging, ZUL Framework(2) is an opt-in alternative.

Happy Logging!

(1) https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_optimization#Prints_are_the_devil
(2) https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3653948326 | https://github.com/escapepz/ZUL

[bright fog]

Just to clarify, even a logging API has performance impact with overheads, tho it's definitely not as significant as prints

[flint whale]

Hi channel, I use ScriptManager.instance:getItem(xxx):getDisplayName() to get an item name from its template. This works fine Client Side, but server side, this is returning the Item's type name. Anyone know why or how to tget an item name from its template on the server side?

Nevermind I think the server doesn't have the translation tables. thats why

[bright fog]

Why would you use that server side ?

[flint whale]

I wanted to prefix the the item name with some text. And If I do this on CLient side it wont persist on the server.

[bright fog]

Why ?

Just why do you need to do that ?

If that's not something the client interacts with, then why do that ?

[flint whale]

What do you mean by client doesnt interact with? To rename the item and prefix with some string, I need to know what was the original name. thats all

I dont really udnerstand your question

[bright fog]

What is your mod doing here ?

Bcs if you need to rename something, that's done client side

[flint whale]

That makes sense and thats what i was donig, but when I transfer the item to another inventory or relog the name resets.

My mod creates a recipe to write down the contents of a room on paper. So I have an option to specify the room name, and I want to prefix the original name with the room name

So originally its something like "Inventory Sheet of Paper" and after it would be "Kitchen Inventory Sheet of Paper"

I could not find an Event on the Client side to rename the item when its transferred between containers. And someone on this channel told me I need to do this Server side so its persisted.

So I gave up on renaming and will show the room name as tooltip

@bright fog Makes sense?

[vast pier]

how would I go about adding a small ingame delay to code

[bright fog]

I think the best way of doing that is by making item variants that replace the original one

The reason for that is that you are currently not considering translations for your mod

So basically if the client is english or spanish or whatever, with your current system they'll impose their language to everyone else

[flint whale]

Currenlty the room name is free form input by the user

[bright fog]

By not renaming the item but instead using variants of the item, you make sure every clients have the proper name for the item

[flint whale]

I could have a list of common rooms, and do what you said

I feel, letting the user input the name is way more flexible. I dont know what types of rooms each player will have

The room name is subjective, and wont be translated

[wraith flame]

tell me what you're trying to achieve exactly. like "im trying to do ______ because i want ______ outcome"

[fathom dust]

can anyone point me to where body slot locations are listed? as in, how to reference them from lua. the wiki page listing slots doesn't seem to have them in the same format

[fervent wraith]

I was thinking adding a logging system to my mod, lucky I saw this.

[hexed arrow]

Quick question does the OnTick not work properly? I can’t get it to print anything

[vast pier]

,w,

[bronze yoke]

it definitely works, your problem is something else

[willow tulip]

Make sure your code didn't crash on compile (check for the word 'trace' in your console.txt)

[willow tulip]

Im still amazed somehow TIS managed to make a slower logging system then.. just about any random modders implimentation of one

Admitly, TIS has to handle crashes.. but I feel like that could have been handled so much better by just having 'flush log' at the end of any callstacks, and maybe have 'flush log' at end of every print only when in debug mode or something -_-

[hexed arrow]

Thanks Guys will look into it

[hexed arrow]

It worked when I restarted the game reloading lua didn’t work somehow

[graceful grove]

having fun learning the basics of modding

baby steps

wheres the composter lua stuff?

trying to figure out how it generates worms

I'd like the campfire to generate ash, but I guess I'd have to make ash an item not just a tile

hrmm

what fun

[paper ibex]

That's the idea behind ZUL. Centralized, leveled logging avoids a lot of pain later.

[paper ibex]

Logging always looks cheap - until it isnt.

[bright fog]

I'm more of the pov that logging should just straight up not be present in mods, only for unexpected code behavior and edge cases which can be handled with asserts most of the time

[fervent wraith]

That makes sense, thanks for the clarification.

We definitely want logging in the mod, but we’re moving away from print() entirely. The goal is to have controlled, centralized logging that we can rely on for debugging without hurting performance.

We’re currently weighing up whether to roll a very small internal logger (since our needs are fairly specific), or to integrate something like ZUL to avoid reinventing the wheel.

Either way, the intent is:

• no print() spam
• event-based logging only
• and something that’s safe for MP and scale

Appreciate the insight

[bright fog]

Like I wrote in that guide on the wiki: no one gives a single shit about your logging but yourself, even modders don't care about it

We only care about problems, maybe overwrites and that's about it

And for these prints are usually enough or even better you can use the game logging system with DebugLog

In fact you should because prints are broken rn

[paper ibex]

Agreed. I manage a semi-heavily modded server with 150+ mods, and some mods print random numbers to the console with no context. It's impossible to trace their source, and they're clearly not vanilla.

[bright fog]

Actually you can trace their source

The community debug tools does it

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Community_Modding_Projects

It hooks to the print function and shows which mods call the prints

[bright dawn]

Good Day guys, I'm trying to make my mod's sfx volume configurable and it seems like its either loud or none, Upon sleuthing I found this page that states that this part is actually disabled on b41 and not sure if its still the case in the recent version. Can someone actually confirm is this is the case and if is, what are your tips on how to granually set its volume. I already made the slider but currently, its either loud(not zero) or 0. Thanks in advance, This has been plaguing me for days lols

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/40085-soundmanager-inability-to-control-the-volume/
https://projectzomboid.com/modding/zombie/SoundManager.html#<init>()

[brittle spruce]

Has anyone managed to figure out how to get IsoAnimals to attack or be aggressive without relying on the Aggression Gene, since it seems to refuse to reset unless the entire save is reloaded? I'm trying to create an animal that that attacks zombies rather than just fleeing.

[bright dawn]

If the gene is janky enough, my hunch is to just fake the attack mechanic by making it check for nearby zeds, grabs their id then throw some dice if it hits or not to simulate fighting lol

[stuck tapir]

Anyone know if it's possible to make a firearm not fill the area with light when fired?

[trim yacht]

I am having a problem using dressInNamedOutfit or dressInPersistentOutfit in MP. If I do something like

        zed:dressInPersistentOutfit("HazardSuit")
        zed:resetModelNextFrame()
        zed:resetModel()

On the client, it works fine. however when I kill the zed, I stick items in its inventory (on the server) which works fine, but it also causes the zed to revert its clothing. Any help is appreciated

[burnt charm]

hello guys! wanted to upload addon, but i have some problem

[mellow frigate]

Can someone recall me how we get current container distribution info ingame in debug ? = right click + open Loot Zed

[tranquil kindle]

Pretty much. Some containers can have multiple distributions, so keep that in mind. In B41 you need to enable lootzed in debug menu, but 42 has it on by default

Unless thats not what you ask...

[mellow frigate]

thanx 🙂

[willow tulip]

Yea, also note what distribution is picked has some complex logic behind it.

theres like, a min/max count for each distribution, I think it means 'per room'

So there is often a few rare distributions that are limited to like 1 max -_- and then some junk distributions that have 99 max

hence why there is only ever 1 cabinate in gas stations with anything good (smokes/matches/etc)

[paper ibex]

echo --- reset IP ---
netsh int ip reset
echo.
echo --- reset Winsock ---
netsh winsock reset
echo.
echo --- flush DNS Cache ---
ipconfig /flushdns

work for me on Windows, no need to reset the pc, btw need run as admin, you can search google how to

[crystal pollen]

I have a new mod item, BathTowel reskin(different color), what is the best way of adding the menu to dry yourself using it, since it doesn't seem to be granted via ItemType or ItemTag. It is setup currently like the regular BathTowel.

[graceful grove]

I think theres a decent bath towel mod already

[vast pier]

how would I go about adding a small ingame delay to code?
Like shorter than a second delay

[silent zealot]

Are you adding a new color to the existing Base.BathTowel item or makingg an entirely new item?

Or just changing the color for all existing towels.

If you've replaced the texture or added more textures to an existing item you should not need to do anything else. (but WARNING: if you add an extra texture option to an item, then your mod is removed, the texture index will be out of bounds and this will cause an entire chunk of the world to reset (assuming they didn't fix that bug) )

if you added a new item, you will need to add your own context menu entry. The existing check is hardcoded to two specific items only instead of using a tag:

        if (testItem:getType() == "DishCloth" or testItem:getType() == "BathTowel") and playerObj:getStats():get(CharacterStat.WETNESS) > 0 then
            tests.canBeDry = true;
        end

then if your towel is found (and your towel is dry) you can call the existing timed action which doesn;t seem to care what you dry yourself with provided it is drainable:

context:addOption(getText("ContextMenu_Dry_myself"), items, ISInventoryPaneContextMenu.onDryMyself, player);

[quiet fulcrum]

anyone know what's the earliest event I can use sendClientCommand? It's not working at OnGameStart or OnConnected. It doesn't even work on the first OnPlayerUpdate

or alternatively, is there a trigger for the server where I can see when a client joins? Would love some sort of OnPlayerConnected(player) event

[bronze yoke]

commands start working at the end of the first tick

so something like the second ontick trigger is typically used

[quiet fulcrum]

not ideal but thanks it's good to know that, at least I can work with it

[bright fog]

Lua timers

[bright fog]

Probably something to add on the wiki

[bright fog]

I'll pin until then

[torn igloo]

hello modding guru, are there any new vehicle related api in b42?

[bright fog]

The game ?

[gleaming inlet]

Hey I saw this the other day, id be keen to follow progress on the mod and how far you are from release.

I saw a sneak peak of it somewhere and already I can see its going to be fun.

Also what is the blackboard, other than like a market, contract mod?

[fervent wraith]

Hey not sure if this is the right channel for your question but..

Appreciate the interest, glad the sneak peek caught your eye 🙂

At the moment all testing is being done privately and we’re keeping public info pretty limited on purpose. The mod is still in heavy development, and we’re focusing on getting the foundations right before opening things up or talking release timelines. So there’s no public testing or ETA just yet, but progress is definitely ongoing. But Id say within the next month or two.

As for what The Black Board actually is, it’s more than just a market or contract mod.

At its core, it’s a living, in-world community hub. A physical blackboard where players trade with each other, post messages, take on jobs and contracts, earn money and progression currency, and interact with larger systems like server-wide contracts and factions. The goal isn’t just functionality, but atmosphere, making it feel like something that belongs in the world rather than a detached menu.

We’re trying to build a system that tells a story, a story made by players and shared with the community. The Black Board is meant to feel lived-in: trade scratched onto the board, notes erased, rewritten, overwritten again. Things appear, expire, and disappear as the world and its players change.

We’re building something here that goes well beyond what most Project Zomboid mods attempt. There isn’t really anything on the Workshop that does what The Black Board is aiming to do, combining a player-driven economy, contracts, progression, and social interaction into one cohesive, world-based system. That’s also why we’re being careful with development rather than rushing things out.

When we’re closer to being ready for wider testing, we’ll share more. For now it’s mostly "behind the scenes" design, iteration, and multiplayer stress-testing to make sure it all holds together properly.

Thanks again for the interest, it’s genuinely motivating to hear people are excited about it already.

[gleaming inlet]

oh sorry did not know where to ask about it, but yea im keen to see this finished. thanks for that info will be looking forward to it.

[hexed arrow]

local function sayItemName(playerToSay, itemToDisplay)
playerToSay:Say(tostring(itemToDisplay:getDisplayName()))
end

local function onKeyPressed(key)
local player = getPlayer()
if not player then return end

if key == Keyboard.KEY_K then
    player:Say("K pressed")

    local container = player:getInventory()
    local items = container:getItems()

    if items == nil or items:size() == 0 then return end

    for i = items:size() - 1, 0, -1 do
        local item = items:get(i)
        sayItemName(player, item)
        container:Remove(item)
    end
end

end

Events.OnKeyPressed.Add(onKeyPressed) can anyone tell my why it crashes on " if items == nil or items:size() == 0 then return end" sorry first time lua

[tulip valve]

    local player = getPlayer()
    if not player then return end

    if key == Keyboard.KEY_K then
        player:Say("K pressed")

        local container = player:getInventory()
        if not container then return end

        local items = container:getItems()
        if not items or items:isEmpty() then return end

        for i = items:size() - 1, 0, -1 do
            local item = items:get(i)
            sayItemName(player, item)
            container:Remove(item)
        end
    end
end```

try this

[pearl fox]

Hello,
someone can explain me why this is OK for B41

local nbmoodles = player:getMoodles():getNumMoodles()```
But not for B42 ?

[bronze yoke]

moodles api was reworked

[pearl fox]

Ok, and how to access it ?

[tulip valve]

Why are you not using
local player = getPlayer()

maybe getSpecificPlayer(0) dosnt work in B42 anymore

[pearl fox]

because after I want to put getSpecificPlayer(0) in for loop for server needs.

getSpecificPlayer(0), work for other parts in my mod.

what is the equivalent in B42 of player:getMoodles():getNumMoodles()

[small topaz]

When using sendClientCommand im MP, do you guys think it is necessary to add some kind dos-protection on server side?

[bronze yoke]

it makes sense to validate commands to prevent cheating, but keep in mind that vanilla commands do not do much in this regard so they'd just DOS those instead

[small topaz]

Yeah... it is super natural to validate stuff and if done with some care, it can probably eliminate all gameplay cheats not intended by a mod.

But what I was thinking of is that the client may use smth like this:

  sendClientCommand((player, "someMod", "someDefinedCommandFromTheMod", args)
end```
Haven't tried how this would behave in an actual MP game but just in theory... wouldn't this break a server?

But I'll definitely try such a construction in my current mod when I have the time (or sending it via a for-loop a million of times).

Curious how the server behaves.

[bronze yoke]

you can't stop that

that would be on PZ's netcode, there's nothing you can do to prevent it

[analog mesa]

Anyone know when one of the Profession Frameworks will update? Wanting to make some custom occupations but I wasn't able to find any mentions of removing vanilla professions

[vast pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/908459714248048730/1465743723345215589/2026-01-27_10-20-11.mp4?ex=697a37b7&is=6978e637&hm=f84cf62966c2636ce582d6ec99f6d9bb0863128d6f5fb91a4e44e0b96ab66aa1&

[small topaz]

My current workaround is to remove vanilla professions is to exclude them from the list of selectable professions in the occupation menu. Here is one way of doing this:

function CharacterCreationProfession:populateProfessionList(list, ...)

    vanilla_populateProfessionList(self, list, ...) --execute vanilla code

    list:clear() -- clear the list of selectable professions 

    local excludedProfessions = {}
    excludedProfessions[CharacterProfession.BURGER_FLIPPER] = true

    local profList = CharacterProfessionDefinition.getProfessions() -- restore profession list
    for i = 0, profList:size() - 1 do
        local profession = profList:get(i)
        if not excludedProfessions[profession:getType()] then -- omit excluded professions
            list:addItem(profession:getUIName(), profession, profession:getDescription())
        end
    end
    
    local unemployed = CharacterProfession.UNEMPLOYED 
    list:sort(function(a,b) -- sort the list as in vanilla
        if a.item:getType() == unemployed then
            return true
        end
        if b.item:getType() == unemployed then
            return false
        end
        return not string.sort(a.text, b.text)
    end)    
end```

only thing is that our mods might then not be compatible with each other since we both fully delete the list and then restore...

in the long run and with regard to mod compatibility, it might be better to first back up the list and when re-storing the professions, do it from the back upped list. (note for me: do this in the next update).

but as a quick and dirty solution, the above will also work.

[analog mesa]

Any clue if theres something specific you need to do for mp?

[small topaz]

not sure. my mod is currently single player only (although I plan to update it for mp). however, from what I see, the vanilla code I modified above is fully client side, so it may work in mp out of the box. the only thing you need to take care of is the new system for defining professions which has been introduced in 42.13 (this applies to sp and mp).

[willow tulip]

Do note that most 'user' aspects like calories, etc are all driven server side now

[small topaz]

Yeah, but not the profession selection screen we are talking about. It is located in the client's OptionScreens folder and mainly consists of code for controlling UI. Still possible that there is some server-client communication which I just haven't noticed (in fact, there should be at least some server-side checks cause otherwise, people could cheat overpowered builds). But from what I saw, there is nothing in the code we discussed above.

[willow tulip]

Try to work on mod without internet. Can't launch coop server to test mod, sigh

[vast pier]

how would I go about adding something to the radial reload menu ?

[unkempt dragon]

Do I need a folder with the exact name of the game version I'm using in my mod, or is that not necessary?

[bronze yoke]

no, the highest version folder that does not exceed the current version will be used

so if i have a 42 and 42.13 folder, all versions from 42.0 to 42.12 use 42, and all versions from 42.13 onwards use the 42.13 folder

[silent zealot]

I think it's media/lua/client/ISUI/ISFirearmRadialMenu.lua

Attach a prefix or postfix to that which calls addslice

[unkempt dragon]

ty

[normal moth]

Did something get changed with textures for B43.13??

I have my mod for Ancient Weapons and the models don't have textures.

I have the .X files in the Model_X/weapons folder.

And then I have the .fbx files in Model_X/WorldItems

[bright fog]

Why do you use both fbx and x ?

[normal moth]

Idk, it's just how the thing was set up from B41??

I really don'y know what I'm doing at all.

I'm trying to get it to load up in the mod menu, and I added the ItemType = base:weapon to them.

And the new catagories = base:smallblade

I've got thousands of people who use this mod, and I can't seem to get it up and running for B42.13, and I looked at all the documentation.

The base mod runs on B42 though, and that one's still up on the workshop.

I'll do all the legwork, I just need a tip to move in the right direction.

I also noticed that the vanilla model definitions added a new "attachment world" and "attachment bip01_prop2" for some vanilla weapons as well.

[bright fog]

Sadly I can't give you much tips without more info on what the problem is on your side 😅

Items don't appear ?

Any errors ?

[vast pier]

You only have model definitions for the ground models

[normal moth]

So there's a difference between ground sprites and world items??

I thought they were the same. I'll fix that.

Is there anything else I need to add?

[vast pier]

uh idk, that was just the first thing I noticed

[normal moth]

Ty!

[vast pier]

"WeaponSprite" is the model used when held as a weapon

[normal moth]

I can reference them both back to the same .X file?

[vast pier]

you might be able to use the same model for both without issue, but the problem is the itemscript is calling for a non existent model script definition

[normal moth]

What's a model script definition?

[vast pier]

        mesh = weapons/1handed/BattleAxe_stal,
        texture = weapons/1handed/BattleAxe_stal,
        scale = 0.01,
        attachment world
        {
            offset = 0.00 0.00 0.00,
            rotate = 0.00 0.00 0.00,
        }
        attachment Bip01_Prop2
        {
            offset = 0.00 0.12 0.00,
            rotate = 0.00 0.00 0.00,
        }
    }```

[normal moth]

Ahh okay! I'll fix that.

[vast pier]

I think there's more than just that though, I'm a bit tired

It seems like the model just,, isn't loading ?
It's not spitting out the error anymore since I added a new model definition

but the model itself seems to be empty

strange

[normal moth]

Okay, I added the model and renamed it all to _ground

and it's got an attack animation in game too

and the attacks work now

But I think it might not have a texture?

okay, I got into a fight and the weapons are working.

But there are no visuals.

It's just a blank space.

[vast pier]

yeah that's what I was saying

Does B42.13 still use X file models ?

[normal moth]

Idk!

Does the FBX file need textures?

[azure crest]

Hey so im tryna host my own b41 pz server can someone help me out im using a thing called Nitrado for server hosting

[normal moth]

Sorry mate! Never used it myself.

[azure crest]

Ur good man i haven't done this in years tryna figure it out

[normal moth]

Can I rename a .fbx file without messing anything up??

I'm gonna try it.

[torn igloo]

Hello modding guru, is there a javadoc for b42?

[silent zealot]

https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/

That's for 42.13.0, AFAIK the only change that matters for 42.13.1 is the additional of a way to move a new BodyLocation to a specific place in the array of BodyLocations.

[silent zealot]

Yes because updating existing .X models to .FBX has not been done, so a lot of game assets are still in .X

I've never had any success doing anything with .X files though.

[buoyant violet]

no

You need to properly import to blender or another program

and export to the appropiate format

[buoyant violet]

it does, but its just better to use fbx

less size, and more programs support them

the wiki already has link to programs that you can put in blender for importing X into Blender

there is also a CLI for mass transforming X to GLTF

I used that to make animations from X to FBX later

[tranquil kindle]

How?

I mean the body locations. It's kinda annoying that new ones are on top, which results in some strange behaviour

[upper moat]

So I am getting this error and no idea what i did wrong with uploading the mod but it does kick the mod out of the steam id line in the ini file but it does remain on the Mods line...

[MLOS] Mod \Storage0Matic3000 not found. Subscribe to the missing mod or save changes to the server configuration (missing mods will be removed from the mod list).

[normal moth]

Okay, so switching to .fbx now makes the weapons show up, but they are in weird locations.

Like the model is displaced from the correct xyz coords.

[unkempt dragon]

Zomboid/
└── Workshop/
    └── MyExampleMod/
        ├── Contents/
        │   └── mods/
        │       ├── MyMod1/
        │       │   └── ...
        │       └── MyMod2/
        │           └── ...
        ├── workshop.txt
        └── preview.png

Will each of my standalone mods be in a folder in Workshop/ or in Workshop/Contents/mods/?

[frank elbow]

Workshop/

Mods are defined in subfolders of a workshop item with the appropriate file structure & mod.info. Workshop items are defined in Workshop & contain the content specified in Contents/mods

[unkempt dragon]

ty

[unkempt dragon]

What are multiple subfolders of mods used for within a single mod in Workshop?

[frank elbow]

Multiple mods within a workshop item

Workshop items don't have to be 1:1 with mods, you'll see this a lot with mods that have different options that aren't doable via sandbox options

[unkempt dragon]

ty

I've already taken a look at the project structure, now I'm going to study the Kahlua API so I can make my first mods, thanks for the help.

[pulsar fern]

Hi everyone, after months of thinking I decided to finally get into modding this game, I have experience in modding some games like Unturned or Running with Rifles. The thing is after some research I didn't find a recent weapon tutorial focused properly on B42 or firearms. If some of you could share some guide or tutorial I would be more than grateful, to help me in the long way to make something as big as Britas firearms mod.

[unkempt dragon]

I recommend that you start by studying folder structure, file formats, and mod structure first. There are some very good recent videos about this and a lot of information on the wiki.
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_structure#Build_42
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Lua_(API)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGbyLGLmxes&list=PL91PT-Vd7Vhp_eBA8pE4hCXPcrxHWgr_E

[pulsar fern]

wow, many thanks bro!! I surely check this!!

[normal moth]

I'd look at Rain's firearms mod too!

[normal moth]

Okay, so the model is way offset and doesn't have the rotation it should.

[pulsar fern]

many thanks bro!!

[worn cloak]

Is there an option to send server message ( /servermsg "Server restarts in 3 minutes" ) from mod?

[unkempt dragon]

Congratulations to the Umbrella contributors, this intellisense is incredible.

[bright fog]

You need to thank @bronze yoke, I believe @frank elbow too and possibly Jab ?

[frank elbow]

And some community documentation contributions—hopefully more in the future

[willow tulip]

public InventoryItem addItem(InventoryItem baseItem, InventoryItem usedItem, IsoGameCharacter chr) {
        int cookingLvl = chr.getPerkLevel(PerkFactory.Perks.Cooking);```
k looks fine to me so far...

if (baseItem instanceof HandWeapon) {
                    item.setConditionFrom(baseItem);
                    item.getModData().rawset("condition:" + baseItem.getType(), (double)baseItem.getCondition() / baseItem.getConditionMax());
                }

... wait, why is there.. handweapon code in evolved recipes?!?

https://tenor.com/view/moe-szyslak-gun-gop-republican-gif-25943122

also interesting: private void checkUniqueRecipe(InventoryItem baseItem) {

seems to provide some list of unique recipes (ingredient lists) to be used in an evolved recipe

that provide extra hunger/boredom/happyness bonuses

Seems to 'exist' as a feature, but isn't used in vanilla?

    public void Load(String name, String[] strArray) {
        for (int i = 0; i < strArray.length; i++) {
            if (!strArray[i].trim().isEmpty() && strArray[i].contains(":")) {
                String[] split = strArray[i].split(":");
                String key = split[0].trim();
                String value = split[1].trim();
                if (key.equals("BaseRecipeItem")) {
                    this.setBaseRecipe(value);
                } else if (key.equals("Item")) {
                    this.items.add(value);
                } else if (key.equals("Hunger")) {
                    this.setHungerBonus(Integer.parseInt(value));
                } else if (key.equals("Hapiness")) {
                    this.setHapinessBonus(Integer.parseInt(value));
                } else if (key.equals("Boredom")) {
                    this.setBoredomBonus(Integer.parseInt(value));
                }
            }
        }
    }```

BaseRecipeItem doesn't show up in the .txt files?

[severe marsh]

Hai im not a dev but im just gonna say

thanks to all you devs who are updating your mods for the new update (that kinda broke a ton) it means alot

[tough oxide]

i'm not sure my questions would fit here, but i'm working on some companion tools (mostly for myself, but looking to OpenSource) for docker containers

is this a good place to ask basic questions?

[bright fog]

If it's PZ related, then yes

Probably

[tough oxide]

ill add an example question

so i'm looking to start parsing some console output LOG : General f:56871, t:1769631036106, st:318,653,146> ERROR: IsoThumpable not found on square 5720,5725,0

i figured out t: is milliseconds since Unix Epoch and st: i assume is server ticks since creation (not current running)

but what does f: mean?

i noticed it jump by 50 when i was having a recurring mod error that was locked in the main game tick loop

and is there a place i can see what the "standard" output format is expected to be for the console log?

i know there will be outliers

im just trying to parse the 80% for now then work on the outliers and exception logs after

i promise not to ask full programming questions - i was just looking for some source code where everything outputs to the console or basic guidance

[bright fog]

What's your goal with parsing the console file?

[bright fog]

Nah, I'd probably check the Java for that

[tough oxide]

two parts - one just to do it myself and learn something - secondly i want to group everything together into logical groups so i can see the things that matter quickly

is the console output a standard Java console output?

i havent worked with Java much and currently working with C#

I’m looking though modding steps now to see what info I can glean

[buoyant violet]

You need to adjust them tho

[normal moth]

Adjust them how?

[unkempt dragon]

When should I use the Base module or MyModuleName module in scripts?

[bright fog]

Basically all the time besides when there are technical limitations

You should always prioritize a custom module

There is (or was, no confirmation it's still present in 42.13.2) a bug where CraftRecipes don't work properly in MP if in a custom module

[unkempt dragon]

ty for tips

[small topaz]

does anyone know by heart what the maximal capacity of the player inventory was?

[bronze yoke]

isn't it 50

[frank elbow]

Frame number, as defined by the number of times the IsoWorld update method has been called. This can be answered by looking at DebugLog.java, so if you're looking more into this I'd recommend decompiling

Information on how to do that is on the wiki, you'll probably want to use ZomboidDecompiler

[small topaz]

I just made a console output and it says 50!

what is weird: when I play multiplayer as a host, even when not in debug mode, I can still load more than 50

[bronze yoke]

i think that's a bug

[tough oxide]

appreciate the heads up and i dont mind getting my hands dirty

so theres a game tick and a world tick

whatever - let me dig in and answer my own questions

interesting - st seems from the "start of time" (for the server) and f frame number is per boot

thinking "out loud" it might be a good number to look at when random server issues arise - like the server was up for like 15 hours and gracefully handled some exceptions but then suddenly when people slept the server didnt fast-forward time

might be time to dust off that jetbrains license*

[frank elbow]

This won't affect what you said that much, but regardless: from what I saw earlier, the value of the “server time” part of the output is derived from System.nanoTime, which is actually measured from an arbitrary point, not necessarily time since the start

So it's mostly useful for comparison between 2 reference points

[tough oxide]

interesting - i made an assumption

[frank elbow]

See https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/lang/System.html#nanoTime--

[tough oxide]

that is annoyingly foreign - is this a measurement that is more important in things like game engines where there are faster loops/ticks?

[frank elbow]

It's essentially just a timer with very high resolution, pretty sure it's intended primarily for benchmarks/duration measurements. That's at least the main place I've seen it used, anyway

[tough oxide]

i normally deal in slower (something like a 50ms wait between loops is more than fine)

got it - profiling and such

[frank elbow]

In the game's case it converts it to milliseconds anyway, iirc (some unit other than nanoseconds, at least)

[tough oxide]

regardless if i find a use out of the gate its still useful to name stuff properly

[unkempt dragon]

Is it possible to add new properties to existing classes?

For example, I would like to add a new property to the entity that represents radiation levels and then create systems to manage it.

[silent zealot]

Extending java classes needs a java mod. Think very carefully before doing that, it's a pain for you and for all your users.

Using lua I wouldn't desribe what you do with an elegant term like "adding properties"... it's more like "here's a soup full of stuff, you can throw more stuff in there"

I expect you can do what you want with lua, but if you can describe the systems you'll be adding in more detail this channel can probably give you advice on where you need to get started.

[willow tulip]

If you can possibly do it in LUA, do it... Because java mods will have like 1/4~1/2 the usage rate.

[silent zealot]

And you will have to constantly update them, and if you're adding anything via java that is meant to be persistent you'll probably have everything break every update when people start up the game without the java bits installed and either break your mod or break their entire save. And everyone will blame you no matter how clearly you explain how to avoid issues.

[willow tulip]

Depends what classes you alter.. ones with Save() and Load() functions are... difficult.

there is 'leaf' that apparently lets you only alter the functions you care about, but I have no idea how it works -_-;

[buoyant violet]

Manual installs are all the rage lel

my current issue with tracer effects, if I implement any I need to do manual installs aaah

[worn cloak]

Just created my first mod 🎉 😅

[buoyant violet]

Welcome

you will now never play the game, just mod

[frank elbow]

This is true

[worn cloak]

Yep, pretty much what I was doing the past two days

[tranquil kindle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/s01e08-11vUtLUUATEwIE

[buoyant violet]

Update

[buoyant violet]

Hey I have like 50 guns on me hahaha

[unkempt dragon]

What programs did you use to make the casings? Animation and sprites.

[buoyant violet]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3610677934

its my mod

[unkempt dragon]

each casing is one map object on ground?

[buoyant violet]

yeap

dawg did not waste time to check my code lol

[unkempt dragon]

rsrsrs

[buoyant violet]

I left instructions on how to hook a weapon pack into the mod

or you can look over at the param tables in server

but I will be reworking stuff in the mod

I just have all changes local right now

[unkempt dragon]

I'm learning how to make mods, so I like to see how they've been made, and yours looks very well done from what I've seen.

A crafting system for ammunition was my first idea, but I see you're already doing that.

[buoyant violet]

Dont recommend you looking at that one

I release a crafting ammunition for those casings yeah, its still WIP but you can look a bit into how I did one that one

start better by looking at vanilla files

but HB is not a simple mod specially for learning

even if the outcome of the mod is rather simple, visible casings haha

[unkempt dragon]

I have experience programming, but not with games.

I did a comparison with the Lua API and learned a few things, like sending commands to the server; I find that quite interesting.

[unkempt dragon]

Did you analyze the game's code by decompiling the Java?

[buoyant violet]

if you have experience with code you will get it quickly

[buoyant violet]

you can do that, and also check the main lua files from the game

in media/lua folder

[tulip valve]

Looks great! What does it do? Maybe add that sound from south park to play

[buoyant violet]

most of the logic for firearms is there too

[unkempt dragon]

I did this to view the Zedscripts settings.

[unkempt dragon]

thanks for the tip

[tough oxide]

I was noticing some errors on a mod not finding files on Linux cause it’s filesystem is case sensitive - is it best practice to make the files lowercase?

[bronze yoke]

it's best practice until they fix it in a couple weeks and then it's probably bad practice

also there are some files can't be lowercase (e.g. all animation nodes need to be in AnimSets), these things simply don't work on linux servers right now

[tough oxide]

got it

[worn cloak]

I have a friend in our party that constantly dies and we always ask him "Did you die again?" So this will show us a notification every time he dies. 😂The "Kenny" placeholder is configurable in the sandbox settings

[tough oxide]

i thought there was something that was beyond the modders control concerning extending objects

<animNode x_extends="ChainsawDefault.xml"> is causing an error that looks like its looking for the all lowercase version

at least that's my assumption

[bronze yoke]

you can only extend a file from your own mod, it uses real paths

[tough oxide]

this is their file

[bronze yoke]

imo the extends system is kind of bad/useless anyway

[tough oxide]

but the error is either mis-reporting or something is causing the file to be loaded all lowercase

[bronze yoke]

filesystem errors will usually be lowercase, the game usually treats paths as if they're all lowercase to support linux better

[tough oxide]

yeah, on the docker volume the files are there

[bronze yoke]

the linux problems are a new issue with 42.13

[tough oxide]

you can see the exception is reporting in all lowercase

[bronze yoke]

it could be that it really is inappropriately lowercasing it, but again the virtual filesystem just downcases everything so not necessarily

[tough oxide]

i gotta remember theres a whole other vm involved

the java vm

[bronze yoke]

basically windows modders mess up casing so often that they had to make the game itself case insensitive for 90% of mods to actually work on linux

[tough oxide]

not gonna lie - i half googled making the linux filesystem case insensistive

and was like.. nah.. im not doing any of that

[bronze yoke]

it's just a temporary issue with that system, if it's been reported properly i'd expect it to be fixed by the next patch

i say 'if' because it wouldn't be the first time a major issue we never hear the end of has not actually been reported to tis 😅

[tough oxide]

ill make a note to look over the forums and do my best to report it

if its not - an actual modder would likely do a better job

[full flame]

Hey, why isn't the mod that adds default cars with new textures, consisting of scripts and textures, working on the server? I can't find the reason.

[small topaz]

better ask in the mod support channel or directly on mod's steam workshop page

[tough oxide]

has this been the case for a long time?

im digging through the code now

and

[willow tulip]

Yes windows modders have been messing up case for a long time.

[tough oxide]

im curious what changed thats causing these files not to be found

[sour island]

The previous filesystem handled it for Linux -- my guess is when versioning was added that fix was lost with it

I wouldn't be surprised if they had this issue a really long time ago too and needed a solution

[bronze yoke]

it is a b42.13 change, build 41 handled linux fairly well

[tough oxide]

That’s a solid point

I’ll see if I can dig up those parts and see if anything stands out

[tough oxide]

any quick-fixes for intellisense vs code and javax stuff?

do i need to get a different version of java?

[unkempt dragon]

---OnWeaponSwing: Triggered when a player begins swinging a weapon.
---<br><br>attacker - The character attacking.<br>weapon - The weapon being attacked with.<br>
Events.OnWeaponSwing = {
    ---@param callback Callback_OnWeaponSwing
    Add = function(callback) end,
    ---@param callback Callback_OnWeaponSwing
    Remove = function(callback) end,
}

This is the "documentation" within Umbrella.

According to my tests, the attacker is actually the one that was attacked, not the one that attacked.

Did I do something wrong, or is it really reversed?

I tried displaying the attacker's name, and it's nil, and the ID is indeed the ID of the zombie I attacked.

this is my code

Events.OnWeaponSwing.Add(function(attacker, weapon)
    print(attacker:getID());  -- Ouput: Zombie ID
end)

Events.OnWeaponSwing.Add(function(attacker, weapon)
    attacker:Kill(getPlayer())
end)

This code killed the zombie instantly.

It seems that the same event behaves differently when it's on the client or the server.

On the server, it seems to return the ID of the attacker.

[frank elbow]

That doesn't seem like it should be possible

[tough oxide]

yeah, i was deep diving the source

and trying to see what i could find

i did find LuaEventManager.triggerEvent("OnHitZombie", this, wielder, bodyPart, weapon);

[frank elbow]

That's a trigger for the OnHitZombie event

[tough oxide]

which might be near the event you are referring to

[frank elbow]

The only one for OnWeaponSwing is in SwipeStatePlayer and it's called with a variable that was explicitly casted to IsoPlayer

So I'm not sure how or why that would be the zombie

[unkempt dragon]

i think so

ty

[frank elbow]

I was referring to what eyeOhScream mentioned, my answer to what you were saying is "I don't understand how that's possible" 😅

[unkempt dragon]

I think I may have forgotten to load the code in my tests, which is why the previous event was showing up.

[frank elbow]

So you were potentially mixing up the two events?

[unkempt dragon]

yes

sorry

[frank elbow]

I see, all good I was just trying to understand

[tough oxide]

lol

i just got to the SwipeStatePlayer

and found it

[unkempt dragon]

How can I obtain IsoGameCharacter?

maybe IsoPlayer?

[tough oxide]

I’m not a modder - just deep diving an error

I’d imagine there’s some god object you can get it from

Everything I’m seeing derives from zombie

But I don’t know

I’m sure there’s some lua context I haven’t seen yet

Hate when that happens

[unkempt dragon]

java.lang.Object
zombie.entity.GameEntity
zombie.iso.IsoObject
zombie.iso.IsoMovingObject
zombie.characters.IsoGameCharacter
zombie.characters.IsoLivingCharacter
zombie.characters.IsoPlayer

[unkempt dragon]

IsoPlayer inherits from IsoGameCharacter, so I can use it.

That's Java inheritance.

[tough oxide]

can you still access the properties of IsoPlayer?

even if it hint IsoGameCharacter or do you have to attempt to cast it?

[bronze yoke]

lua does not have a concept of classes, so you can try to do anything, but if you don't confirm it's an isoplayer first you'll be in for pain when it isn't

[tough oxide]

solid advice

[unkempt dragon]

if they are public yes

[tough oxide]

yeah, my concern was what albion addressed

checking its type before assuming those properties exist

i was trying to see how many classes extend IsoGameCharacter but my IDE crawling

yeah, so IsoZombie also extends it, so be careful

[unkempt dragon]

liskov principle

[tough oxide]

A learned one here

[small topaz]

In multiplayer, when having some top level code in my shared folder manipulating item definitions like
item:DoParam(), is it necessary to add a condition like if not isClient()? Or will this properly work out of the box?

[bronze yoke]

no, you need both to make the changes

if you don't their scripts won't match and you will either see weird bugs or the anticheat will just kick you

[small topaz]

so just keeping it as plain code without conditions should work?

[bronze yoke]

yeah

[bronze yoke]

not well followed by pz 🤫

[frank elbow]

Someday we'll live in the utopia without casts of this to IsoPlayer in IsoGameCharacter

[tough oxide]

i mean - i do an okay amount of commericial development - i give game creators a lot of leniency

[frank elbow]

Yeah, the priority is certainly just getting a working game made—I think anyone who's done enough pz modding or looked at enough pz code just has thoughts on its code quality

Not a knock on the devs, just observations on where things are at (and how frustrating it can be sometimes)

[tough oxide]

yeah, in my world automated testing should be in the toolbelt

but in a world with multiple loops and constant changing state

[willow tulip]

I love cursed casts TBH.

Just unsafe shit that you know works because this is an array of nothing but IsoPlayers or you already filtered it somehow

[willow tulip]

Course, I work as a knifemaker, so its still 100x safer then my day to day work.

[sour island]

Hello all, for those not frequenting the unofficial modding discord -- I've been working on a tool to check for reuploads of mods.

https://github.com/Chuckleberry-Finn/PZ-reupload-check/

It uses page to page scraping of keyword search results (this is to avoid rate limiting and to cast the widest net) of modIDs. (Which also cause(d) issues when multiple mods use the same ID.)

It also has a management system for tracked mods, as well as DMCA filing.

The final cherry feature is a file hash scan (which requires you to have a copy of DepotDownloader) which will cross match to your tracked mods. 🙂

As for the DMCA process I plan to include some helpful tips to asuage concerns over privacy -- but I used a dedicated email for this process and have a PO box.

[tough oxide]

this is really cool

i have an idea that might include this in the ecosystem

if i decide to make a mod it will be around passive stats and debugging values for mod dev

[proven rover]

this is so dope, huge kudos

wdym about the DMCA filing?

[torn igloo]

I can use syncItemModData to sync mod data on vehicle object on b42?

[gleaming canopy]

Hello, since this new .2 version completely broke the whitelist system of servers. I’m trying to create a server side mode that will just have a file with all the usernames that should be whitelisted. Everyone else will be kicked once they login if they’re not in that list.

What’s the code to kick someone from the server?

[sour island]

You can file a DMCA claim against people that reupload your work.

But the process is tedious, and it's easy to forget who/when. So the management column for DMCA tracks when, and you can mark ones you've filed against. Also, the "copy DMCA message" is a template message that includes all the "contained mods" mods. So you can just copy and paste into the form.

Disclaimer that you should still verify the files manually if there's any doubt. The file hashes are directly from steam but still.

[polar heath]

question for you: which firearms expansion back do you prefer? (I Used VFE extensively, going with Gaels now)

[polar heath]

Also: massive thanks to all the modders in here who do amazing work, gives this game even more replayability which I thought was pretty awesome to begin with

[torn igloo]

In b42, AddWorldInventoryItem accept a new argument called synchSpawn, what is that?

[bronze yoke]

whether to transmit the object to clients

you usually want it to be true

[torn igloo]

But there's already a transmit boolean argument so what is the difference between true and true,true?

[bronze yoke]

it does seem redundant

[rigid anvil]

Hi guys… first time posting here.

I honestly don’t know who to ask or how to approach it myself.
For context: my only modding experience comes from basic modding and scripting in DayZ.

Is there any simple way to make all food related items frozen from the start of the playthrough?
Like making it an extra option in sandbox settings?

I love the winter setting (cyrogenic winter, realistic temp) but this is kind of missing in my opinion.

There would been a mod for build 41, but i honestly don’t wanna go back now.

Any ideas?
If there is anyone that could help me with that, please lmk.

[mellow frigate]

In vanilla, frozen state depends on the container the items are in and depends on the fact items are frozen-able (afaik fresh food). It is not related to external temperature in vanilla.

[tough oxide]

can i call things like CharacterStat:ANGER from Lua?

[mellow frigate]

playerObj:getStats():set(CharacterStat.ANGER, value)--set is only valid server side in MP. get is valid everywhere

[tough oxide]

perfect

i just wanna get atm

[tough oxide]

awesome - first mod (fixing an older one) working locally

[torn igloo]

According to decompiled java, for AddWorldInventoryItem, transmit is related to animal while synchSpawn is related to item. Weird naming.

[bronze yoke]

when i looked it seemed like they both did the same thing

like they literally call the same methods

[torn igloo]

On closer look, it seems like if the item is an animalItem then it will utilize synchSpawn so maybe it meant to spawn animal? Shrug, I don't know how animal works atm.
If it is normal item, then transmit will just transmit and synchSpawn is not used.

[mellow frigate]

When I use print screen in game (windows), and then paste in paint, I don't get the screen I just print, but the one I print before as if there was an "additionnal buffer". Anyone knows what's happening and what I could do to change that behavior ?

[bronze yoke]

don't be in full screen

print screen sees what was there when you last tabbed in, not what's currently there

[willow tulip]

Frozen on spawn is handled in java, AFAIK

You'd basically just need to go over all freshly spawned containers (there is a 'room first visible' or something event?) and edit the food age you'd want and set to frozen

[willow tulip]

Weird part is only very few games do this and im pretty sure its something TIS is doing (or not doing)

OpenGL is such a pain, it will allow you to do so many 'illegal' things.... that then break on other peoples video cards -_-;

Or suddenly render at 10fps instead of >100fps

just because you got a window creation flag wrong and someone elses PC refuses to hardware accelerate it

DirectX is so much better about just beating the developer over the head with a baseball bat when he screws up.

"oh you made a tiny mistake in texture format? hope you enjoy this EXCEPTION"

[frank elbow]

Not an answer to the question asked, but the game also has its own screenshot functionality for which there's a dedicated hotkey

Between that & Steam's screenshot functionality there are options

[tough oxide]

im looking over a mod and is getSpecificPlayer(0) function used in the client folder reliable to get the actual player running the game? im just thinking about multiplayer and i want make sure its targeting the correct current player

[bronze yoke]

yes

keep in mind that if they are playing in splitscreen there coudl be up to 4 'current' players

[tough oxide]

gotcha

that'll be interesting to test

the mod im working with adds a UI element

which sounds tricky in splitscreen

oh nice - there's functions for that getPlayerScreenLeft() as an example

[tough oxide]

has the community come together on a coding style and naming convention or is it just the wild west?

[bronze yoke]

absolutely not

most individuals don't even have consistent style

the most popular style you'll see is vaguely imitating the base game's style but even this is not usually done consistently

[tough oxide]

lol - i would say one day, but...

i guess im gonna stick to snake_case until the mod loading is fixed

for file names

[tough oxide]

any tips for sort of hot-reloading a mod? (knowing certain mods shouldnt be hot reloaded)

this is just a basic UI element

and ive already enabled the debug mode

[willow tulip]

Side effects don't get undone

ie, if you hook a vanilla function.. your previous hook will still exist, and be running ontop of.. the new hook when you hotreload.

[tough oxide]

yeah, that makes sense

im happy with the current enable disable method - the mod is passive currently

[shut robin]

This mod idea is wild probably....but what if when I take bullet from my body It stays in my infentory or at least you can see and hear it fall on the ground.

[tough oxide]

that could be cool

especially on multiplayer servers if you wanted some sort of RP momento

[rain shard]

Is anyone an expert in TileZed? I'm having difficulties getting a 2nd sheet to appear for some reason.

[jagged fulcrum]

#mapping

[willow tulip]

Soon, Cooking 3.0!

[small topaz]

When adding a trait to the player via
⁨player:getCharacterTraits():addTrait(myTrat)⁩
in multiplayer on server, is there anything special I have to do? Like using a special sync command?

[tough oxide]

I can’t answer but when I was digging through the lua files I saw how they did it so it might be worth looking

I wanna say I was looking at client/ISUI/playerstats/

In the actual game files

I’m on my phone so I can’t look right now

[small topaz]

thanks! I'll have a look

[mellow frigate]

can we use a vanilla animation but removing or forcing Translation_Data & Dummy01 bones offsets ? If not, can someone make the port from .x to .fbx of 4 vanilla animations ?

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/File_formats#Importing_assets

[mellow frigate]

does not work. Edit: I have not been able to use successfuly ZomboidAssetConverter

I'll try aoqia ports

[bright fog]

Aoqia's port ? That's the ZomboidAssetConverter

It's the only one that works for animations

[tough oxide]

i havent tried that tool yet - which file(s)* are you^ looking to convert?

i wanted to try it without knowing anything and see if i hit issues

[willow tulip]

Still workshoping it but other then being ulgy atm Im liking it codewise 😛

Im basically going to ignore 'hunger' and the evolved recipe 'hunger per item', and instead your just going to get to.. add entire 'items' (or portions there of, if you perfer) to a meal

And will show preview of current items cals/hunger/etc and after you add the ingredient

[mellow frigate]

I do not know what tool aoqia used but their export are usable. here is their post: #908614746071248916 message

[tough oxide]

from what i can see they used the tool that they developed and offered to the community, ZomboidAssetConverter

[bright fog]

That's ZomboidAssetConverter 😭

#908614746071248916 message

[tough oxide]

as a personal preference - make things like the preview optional

[bright fog]

I literally made a video about it dude

[mellow frigate]

I saw that dude, I have not been able to use the result

[bright fog]

How so ?

If that's the case then tell the god damn creator 💀

[mellow frigate]

If I knew what to tell, I would.

[bright fog]

Saying things don't work doesn't make things move forward, @grizzled fulcrum is still an active member of the community

[mellow frigate]

I told, I have not been able to use, I have not told it was broken

[bright fog]

To use ?

To run it ?

[tough oxide]

the help works at least for me

[bright fog]

https://youtu.be/zXVM6Rwp9qo?si=kHxlNAzlQzy2B_A-

[willow tulip]

Sure. I was also thinking of tying how accurate is to cooking skill (or having nutritionalist trait)]

[tough oxide]

sounds like a good time - godspeed maim/sir

i think when i was rapidly running through files i might have seen some of that code

so some of the work might already be done

or likely is - im on day 2 of looking through all of this

[grizzled fulcrum]

if its not working lmk im still fixing stuff

its possible something changed with the x files that I might need to account for but its unlikely

[bright fog]

I guess it does just Tcherno didn't even manzge to run it bruh

[grizzled fulcrum]

@mellow frigate what issues did you have with it?

do know it doesn't have a GUI, its a very simple terminal application

following sim's video is basically 1:1 how to use it

i probably also need to release new binaries because assimp updated a fair bit since the last binaries I posted, and I can also set up a workflow so theres builds for every platform

[willow tulip]

Now if only i could make it pretty...

[tough oxide]

The 20 of the 80-20 principal for people who don’t make UIs

[willow tulip]

Basically... I'll work on that later, make it functional for now

[tough oxide]

I saw you had some place holder text for the menu title

Looks like the format for multilingual

So well done

[willow tulip]

yea iv been trying to use translation tags in mods I release

[mellow frigate]

It took me time to find back what blocked me at the time (10 days ago): I tried to apply the converter to dance animations from the following mod and the way those animations are implemented seems different from vanilla ones for the Transfer_Data bone. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2648779556

After that, I switch to other animations and for Vanilla Asleep & Awake, I am reusing your last export and it works for my use. Edit: no, I fail again at export time.

I do not pretend there is a need to change the converter.

[tough oxide]

i almost installed that mod, but it looked like AnimSets mods got lightly broken in the new release

something something case sensitive issues?

not sure where the problem is

[bronze yoke]

from what i know it's just linux servers

[tough oxide]

yeah

the case sensitive file system

i still havent looked over the forums to make sure its reported

[bronze yoke]

or maybe just mods that use x_extends, we don't use that at all

[tough oxide]

let me do that now

really?

both of those conditions are true for me

[bronze yoke]

nevermind actually we do, i guess it's only servers then

from what i know linux servers have been having a lot of trouble with mods for all of 42.13

windows servers and linux singleplayer weirdly both seem to work fine

[tough oxide]

im kinda picky-choosey so i havent had any real issues

let me figure out the format so i can report it if it hasnt been

from my digging over the last few days

there still seems to be overlap between client/server code that could be brought together

[bronze yoke]

pz's codebase is just a mess wrt to networking

[tough oxide]

in my mind - a "server" would be created for every new game

[bronze yoke]

it's still developed as singleplayer and then another studio makes it work in multiplayer

[tough oxide]

the idea of "public" should be the configuration

did not know that

that explains so much

[bronze yoke]

you see this kind of mess with games that were originally singleplayer and made multiplayer later, but pz is even worse since it's *still* being made singleplayer

[tough oxide]

i wonder if theres a pattern that could help bring this together

[willow tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-sigh-gif-5895699729383201961

[tough oxide]

so both could happen

[willow tulip]

Developement tends to go smoother when you make SP just a local server and then you only have to code for MP

[tough oxide]

i cant pretend to know - i do more "corporate coding"

so its damned easy

i made my first long running loop in years like 2 weeks ago to account for race conditions

[grizzled fulcrum]

^ yes integrated server is the best solution

[willow tulip]

Just the reduction in bug searchspace alone is worth it.

[bronze yoke]

minecraft bedrock managing to get server desync in singleplayer was pretty impressive though

[grizzled fulcrum]

FIX BEDROCK MOJANG

[tough oxide]

bedrock is the java version right?

[bronze yoke]

no, the c# version

[tough oxide]

oh

i dont mess with that one unless i have to

[grizzled fulcrum]

that somehow manages to run significantly worse now

[small topaz]

Currently trying to change an item's dirtyness on server side using
⁨local item = player:getWornItem(bodyLocation) item:setDirtyness(ZombRand(30)) syncItemFields(player, item) item:synchWithVisual() syncVisuals(player)⁩
As quite often the case for those sync commands, it doesn't work for me...

[tough oxide]

imagine

[bronze yoke]

better yet, throw it out 😭

it only seems to exist so that they can monetise it far more than the original version without backlash

[grizzled fulcrum]

does it mention anything when it fails or nothing? also, I cant tell if you're saying there's an issue with the converter, animation that you are converting, or the importing of it into the game
btw it is not meant to be a 1:1 conversion that you can just take into the game, because assimp has some issues sometimes, so you should look at it and make sure it's correct before using it and whatnot

[tough oxide]

thats actually a question i have. here they only mention player but isnt where that comes from super important?

i saw at least 5 methods to grab a player

then albion mentioned split screen and broke my brain how to make this (my own personal project) work in split-screen

actually 6 - 4 for split and getPlayer() and getSpecificPlayer()

[bronze yoke]

usually it's:

• don't use a global player getter, just use the player that gets passed in by most things (this is better code anyway)
• if you're grabbing players for some kind of action (e.g. doing something to them every tick), loop and do ⁨getSpecificPlayer(i)⁩ for ⁨i = 0, getNumActivePlayers() - 1⁩ (be sure to nil check these as there can be a gap
• if it's triggered by some kind of keyboard event, just use ⁨getSpecificPlayer(0)⁩, player 0 is always the keyboard if there is one

[tough oxide]

is there a term for the player currently running code right now?

aka the "local" player to the code

the mod im rewriting used getSpecificPlayer(0) in the client context

which you said would break on split screen

and that makes sense

sorry, ive been picking your brain all day albion - thanks a ton for the help though

[bronze yoke]

since there's up to 4 players on one client because of splitscreen, there isn't a global 'current player'

there is usually a way to get the current player, though it's often specific to the context, but there is also another school of thought, which i don't subscribe to but is quite prevalent:
nobody plays splitscreen anyway, so why bother supporting it

[tough oxide]

Do you have to “Dom” dive and find each player?

I’m just guessing but something like iterating through windows to find each player

That’s “pragmatic” but…

I hate ignoring a subset

I’ve been the subset so often

Using x language on y OS - enjoy

[bronze yoke]

i personally just enjoy writing that kind of code so i always support splitscreen even though i know nearly nobody benefits from it

[willow tulip]

yea, often you'll get a player context from whatever action your responding to anyway.

Good point about the keyboard too btw.

although, scarily enough, computers do support multiple keyboards and iv seen 1 game that actually supported multiple keyboard/mouse splitscreen: serious sams

[bronze yoke]

PZ doesn't thankfully

[tough oxide]

How to age yourself

[mellow frigate]

I do not know if the failure comes from my actions or from the converter. here is a video that may show obvious errors on my part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvkM60rpU7M

[mellow frigate]

What is assimp ? What do you mean by verify ? The only things I see I can do are playing the imported & modified animation in blender (which is OK) and playing the exported animation in PZ (which is NOK).

[grizzled fulcrum]

assimp is the asset importer used by Project Zomboid and many other things. It is also what the converter uses under the hood

[willow tulip]

Yay, my code can now make the evolved item properly, now just need to add the ingredient/spice part.. and determin what that will even do in my cooking system

[mellow frigate]

If you export Bob_Awake.fbx rebuilt from your gltf+bin and replace vanilla .x, then start the game, is the Bob_Awake animation valid in the animation viewer ?

[tough oxide]

May not be related but something about animation mods might be broken

[grizzled fulcrum]

yeah its not meant to be a direct replacement as I said because assimp has too many issues for X animation stuff

it may be possible, im not sure since I dont do lots of animation stuff

[mellow frigate]

so this may be a tool for using PZ animations in other context, not a tool for porting PZ animations to fbx for PZ.

[grizzled fulcrum]

is it possible you have bad export settings in Blender?

[tough oxide]

lol - doesn’t do animation but wrote the tool for conversion - no sarcasm - that tracks

[grizzled fulcrum]

the main reason I made it was so people could see and copy the values for the animations, in theory it should be possible to get it to work with the game, but im not an animator so how easy it is

[mellow frigate]

I am a blender noob, so yeah totally.

On the other end, I have seen noone pretending to have reused it for exporting back to PZ and considering the amount of animators around, I find it strange

[grizzled fulcrum]

idk mabye no one needs the animations?

[mellow frigate]

Once you mod, you play less. Once you make tools for modders, you make less mods .. some people go far meta that way 😄

[mellow frigate]

yep, maybe I'm the first.

[tough oxide]

I admin, but hit an error and started deep diving and then fixed a mod that the wife loved

As soon as I read the steps for uploading it’ll be there

Though I keep looking at things that should be refactored