mod_development

[bright fog]

Store things in it

And forget about any kind of saving

It already saves when you quit the save

[sour island]

To be pedantic, the game saves the table for you

[raven epoch]

so mod data does save

[bright fog]

Yes but you SHOULDN'T SAVE YOURSELF

It already saves

[raven epoch]

oh ok ok heres where we

misunderstood

i understand it now

i dont use mod data to hold

in game objects

i use a module

i use mod data to save stuff

[bright fog]

Don't use a module

[sour island]

https://tenor.com/view/77bit-escobar-gif-11667599896581262228

[bright fog]

Directly use the mod data

If your data is persistent: use mod data
If your data doesn't need to be persistent: use a module

[raven epoch]

well most stuff doesnt need to be thats why

[bright fog]

Then use a module for these

[raven epoch]

i just need 5 values to save right now

thats what i was trying to make

[sour island]

Also you can only save basic data types

[raven epoch]

so whats wrong with wat i am doing with that in mind

[bright fog]

You're saving !

Don't save anything

Directly store in that fucking table

It's a table

[raven epoch]

thats what i am doing by saving 😭

[bright fog]

use it as a table

[raven epoch]

i just put the stuff i want to save in that table

[bright fog]

You literally don't that

DIRECTLY use the table

Don't do any storing in a module then save in the mod data

DIRECTLY store in the mod data table

it's a table

[raven epoch]

but wouldnt i save bazillion unnecessary stuff

if i do that

[bright fog]

Why ????? You already controll what you put in it !

IT'S A FUCKING TABLE

[raven epoch]

ok ok look i get that

ik im a bit slow

[bright fog]

If you don't want to put things in that table then don't do it ???

[raven epoch]

look

i got a table named structure right

it holds all these

AND

all these

BUT

for it to persist between saves

i only need these guys

the rest i need during runtime

thats what i am trying to do

[sour island]

If you're creating structures why do you need modData?

[raven epoch]

its a weird naming its not really a structure

its a point that when u get close to it

spawns npcs and updates itself according to time

so first days it spawns 3 -4 npcs all brand new equipment

then it becomes worse as time goes on

it also adds fortifiactions

i just need to make this point persist between saves

[bright fog]

Your structures are generic structures, have an ID associated to it and in global mod data store the reference to that structure and some condition for spawning and coordinates and done

You don't need to store a copy of the generic data, that's stupid

[raven epoch]

problem is when i do that it for some reason loads from nothing??

[sour island]

Well anything you add to the table is "saved" - I can't really grasp what your save function is doing either

[raven epoch]

just looping through existing structures

getting needed save data and making a new table

then when game loads i respawn the structures from that table

[bright fog]

You're just doing it wrong then

I don't know what to tell you more than properly develop your systems you are using

[sour island]

When you say it loads from nothing - do you mean a fresh game or?

[bright fog]

It's classic programming here, verify anything you use to get the data is the proper ID, and that it exists and that you check the right table etc etc

[raven epoch]

yeah i make a fresh game right

[bright fog]

You are saving your data with OnSave

I said don't save anything

That's the reason your mod data swaps between saves

[raven epoch]

aah

so ur saying i should put it into mod data

[bright fog]

Because you store shit in mod data via OnSave but the mod data is ALREADY saved in that fucking event

[raven epoch]

the moment i make it

[bright fog]

I'm not saying anything, you just didn't understand what mod data is

Don't. Save. Anything.

It already saves

Use the mod data as a persistent table between sessions, that's it

[sour island]

Wait how/why does OnSave migrate the modData? 😮 that sounds useful/fun

[raven epoch]

when i make a fresh game everything works fine

EXCEPT

build structure is false so it means it loaded the building somehow

got it from mod data

[bright fog]

Because mod data is already saved for the current save, we had someone with that exact problem yesterday

[raven epoch]

when the mod data is supposed to be an empty table since its a fresh save

[raven epoch]

oh he did the same as me

[bright fog]

I literally just told you you are saving shit with OnSave when you literally shouldn't

[bright fog]

Yes because he thought you had to manually save mod data too

That dates back from literally this night

[raven epoch]

no no we are not manually saving mod data

[bright fog]

Yes you fucking are !

[raven epoch]

we are putting stuff that needs to be saved in mod data when the game is saving

[bright fog]

Wtf are you saying, you have a save function that you trigger OnSave

[bright fog]

No you aren't

That's literally NOT what you should do

[sour island]

You shouldn't*

[bright fog]

You should ALREADY store the data dynamically during your session

[raven epoch]

ah alright

[sour island]

You guys are talking past each other a bit, lol

[bright fog]

You shouldn't store anything during OnSave because you should have already done it when shit runs

[raven epoch]

ok ok now i get it

so i will save stuff directly when i make a new structure

by save i mean

put it into mod data

[sour island]

"store"

[raven epoch]

ye that

lemme try that rq

hold on zomboid got stuck

ok something keeps erroring

when i exit the game

and then i cant load the save anymore

trying to fix that rn

yep

it errors and when i open up f11 no errors there

when i load the save it plays the you died stuff and i get stuck in a black screen

all i added really

disabled onSave function

just added this when i spawn a new militarystructure

oh there we go

fixed THAT

still not loading

i officially beat the game

peak mod breaks the game loading system

[shy latch]

could someone make a mod to add in the ghost/war camaro it has a really cool story behind it & it just look like a zombie killing machine

it was a special forces vehicle for the Danish back in the 90's it would deliver aid in a war torn bosnia with special inferred scrambling black paint. lined with kevlar & steel for bullet & explosive protection ,inferred headlamps , a nitrous system both the car & drivers are heros

[bright fog]

Why don't you do it ?

[shy latch]

https://youtu.be/8d4RtvMQp10?si=TqQMCm1axduWTx8Q

here is a visual representation of me anything tech

[raven epoch]

when should i use randomizedworldbase and when should i use the classes themselves?

[safe lagoon]

Thinking of making a mod to allow you to break up Salt Licks for salt, any balancing ideas?

[willow tulip]

Large sadness debuff when you do it for... being nasty and covered in cow spit. Id say the salt/corrosion will degrade your hammer and/or chisel required...

Could also take a very long time to do, like 30 seconds (I believe its 50 'craft time' per second?)

... Hu, I just realized crafting recipes don't make noise(?)

that should totally be a thing.

[safe lagoon]

Well some farm supply stores can have them as loot, found 3 at the fallas lake store alone.

But I was more talking "how much salt do you get"

[willow tulip]

Oh.. like 10 maybe? I feel like thats the lowest you can go before players are going to become extremely upset lol.

10 'regular salts' that is, I believe each 'regular salt' still has a number of uses

[tough gulch]

Are we allowed to commission people to port mods in this server? I've gotten permission from the owner I just don't really have much coding knowledge lol.

[bronze yoke]

of course, there's a job board in this server that is generally the safest way to hire people https://pzwiki.net/wiki/PZ_Modding_Community

watch out for scammers in your dms, once you say the c word you'll get a bunch dming you

[tough gulch]

Will do! Appreciate the help!

[safe lagoon]

I was thinking closer to 20, or even more.

Seeing as a full "unit" of salt has 0.1 encumberance and a salt lick has 20.

[sly gazelle]

i was trying to update this mod to work with build 42.13 (until 42.12 it worked fine), but when i tried to enable it on my game (i've downloaded the files using steamcmd and placed on Zomboid\Workshop\ExtraElectricTrait\Contents\mods\ExtraElectricTrait) creating a new sandbox save and tried to select one of the traits, it did a weird system-wide crash, and when i rebooted the pc and opened again the game, the mod wasn't listed on the Mod Manager menu anymore.

[bright fog]

Idk what's up with the last issue but the traits were changed in how they are added now

They now depend on a registry and they are defined using a script

[wet sandal]

This is absolutely not where I expected to find my FPS ending performance issue:

[bright fog]

You made a whole UI to see the performance impact of elements in your UI ?

God damn

[wet sandal]

Gotta do what ya gotta do

[bright fog]

Also maybe imgui has that already built-in ? I don't remember seeing anything like it tho

https://tenor.com/view/oh-its-beautiful-gif-14598256

[fleet bridge]

That looks amazing

[wet sandal]

I'll stop being lazy eventually and see about getting some PRs up for the community debug tools.

[bright fog]

Those need a looooot of reworks

I had to disable some systems that were too buggy

I improved the Lua reloader so you can actually reorder the reloading of fixes

[wet sandal]

Nice, I'd love to get reloading working again in some of my mods

But its one of those things where if you don't design for it, you lose it

[glad sentinel]

is there a way to delete some of the games java code with lua?

not really good with modding im just trying to get rid of forced fast shamblers on b42mp and have some sprinters in a server

[bright fog]

No

That'd be insanely powerful tbh

But you need a Java mod for that

[glad sentinel]

hmm

[rain berry]

KI5 does stuff kinda like this

[glad sentinel]

how would i make a java mod to just delete that segment? sorry i have like literally zero experience in java moddin...

[rain berry]

where you can armour up cars

[glad sentinel]

like would i just remove the segment andd recompile it and just let people replace their gamefiles with that?

[bright fog]

You'd have to decompile the Java, modify this part by commenting out this setter for the speed value and recompile

But it's way more complicated than that

Bcs the problem with a Java mod is that it needs to be manually installed

And you better pray that this code only runs server side or every players need to install that Java mod

[glad sentinel]

shit youre right...

it should only change the config files no way they put more checks to make sure sprinters arent real...

[bright fog]

That too yea lol

[glad sentinel]

another issue how would i recompile the decompiled code....

[bright fog]

There's no guide on that currently, but if you search for some key terms here or in the modding Discord you will probably find some info

There's some modders that know about the details of it

[glad sentinel]

ah hmm

[bronze yoke]

javac -cp projectzomboid.jar MyFile.java

[shy latch]

yeah but reaching out to him in impossible his friends list is full & i cant just random message him on steam

[glad sentinel]

ah!

[rain berry]

i don't think he likes people contacting him yeah

[glad sentinel]

using this just pops out a ton of errors and most of them just says cannot find symbol im trying to recompile sandboxoptions file after decompiling it

[bronze yoke]

did you give it the path to projectzomboid.jar

[glad sentinel]

ah shoot youre right i totally forgot about this uhm ill try it again

does this just compile it directly to the zomboid jar file?

it doesnt seem to have worked heres what i edited out and saved

[bronze yoke]

it creates the class files next to the java file, you need to copy them into the jar

[glad sentinel]

ah thank you!

[willow tulip]

KINDA. you can override any java function called by LUA, like a normal LUA hook.

you can not override java functions called by java using LUA.

(this is how inventory capacity override mods work)

[willow tulip]

You can also just copy the files to project zomboid\zombie\ (path in jar here) and they override any files in the Jar

[glad sentinel]

i used winrar to replace the files in the jar but uh

it seems like it bricked server settings

[willow tulip]

(IMO, this is a cleaner way to install java mods because you can uninstall all java mods by deleting the zombie dir, and its much easier to make a batch file that compiles your mod and copies it to zombie, for the next test run)

[bronze yoke]

Lua, not LUA

[willow tulip]

lUa, where l tells you that its a long type and Ua is the type name.

[glad sentinel]

commenting out the block of code preventing you from getting sprinters just bricks the setting editor this is going to kill me

[willow tulip]

Likely because.. its horribly broken.

[glad sentinel]

no way right all that code block does is just to set a number to 2 if its 1 or 4

if its the sprinters it should atleast let me open up my game before exploding surely

[willow tulip]

yea im saying its blocking code that is horribly broken. like, really, nth level, horribly broken.

didn't even try to make work.

[glad sentinel]

[willow tulip]

thats the whole point of it.. to prevent the broken code from running.

if it was only half broken, they would have just shipped it and told us 'lol thats what unstable means' when we complain that sprinters randomly turn into 50' tall titan zombies and rampage across the map

[glad sentinel]

how could this be so fucked man shit...

[willow tulip]

because they had to like... rewrite 1/4 of the game for MP?

proper server side MP

not like the hacked client side MP that B41 had

[glad sentinel]

ill test it again but this time recompiling with no changes to just see what happens

[willow tulip]

B42 at least tries to be server authorative.

[glad sentinel]

wow i just guess even calling setting to be 1 or 4 completely bricks the game

i guess sprinters are locked away for eternity until next patch

its so weird becasue just the other day i saw sprinters in a game in b42 mp when there were supposed to be no sprinters

[shy mantle]

Man am I happy the OnThrowableExplode event exists, gonna add some vehicle "landmines" nonsense lol

[willow tulip]

theres mods for sprinters AFAIK

[brave bone]

quick question: how do you guys detect singleplayer , mp and coop(the splitscreenthing)?

[wet sandal]

isClient() - true when you are connected to a server
isServer() - true when you are the server

If you have a player object, you can check if they belong to your client with:
playerObj:isLocal()

For split screen, I use the playerNumber

A lot of vanilla UI elements already track it. You can also pull it from the player object with:
playerObj:getPlayerNum()

[bronze yoke]

there is no host state

[wet sandal]

No? Thought that was a thing

[bronze yoke]

when you 'host' in-game, it just runs a dedicated server in the background and connects to it

so there is a separate client and server process as normal

[red blade]

i had an idea for a mod that you can choke zombies to death instead of stomping them which is loud and can attract other zombies (? idk about this lol)

[tight elm]

I wouldn't want to put my hands anywhere near a zombie's mouth for longer than a moment

I guess a chokehold from behind is okayish, but still risky if you misplace your hand

[red blade]

that could be a drawback to the thing

the mod could create new opportunities for killing outside bonking zombies oer the head or shooting them

like you can straddle and strangle them but you're anim locked or the zombie can bite back

[scenic tusk]

Hi quick question, im setting up umbrella with emmylua, when i try to make a new file in the zomboidworkspace it just tries to put it in one of the other folders, does it need to go into one of them or does it need to go into the main root?

[raven epoch]

Main root

İf i remember correctly

[scenic tusk]

I tried putting one in the root for each folder because I cant put one in the workspace root itself so im working on seeing if thatll work

[raven epoch]

Oh u mean any new file?

Or u mean emmysjson tmthingy

[scenic tusk]

the emmyjson

[raven epoch]

Root

[scenic tusk]

is there a way to put it in the workspace root or do i need to put one in each folders root because I cant get it to make a file in the main workspace root

i made a workspace and then opened both my mod folder and the media folder

for easier reference

[raven epoch]

Gimme min

[scenic tusk]

alrightly

also i had seen someone had syntax coloring for the recipe and item files and i was under the impression it was part of this but as far as i can see this is only lua files?

[raven epoch]

Ok dont know

Dont have much exp with visual studio

[scenic tusk]

yea now that im actually setting it up even what i did isnt working anyways

unless its just not possible to use the plugin for the base code of the game

oh i didnt even download umbrella im sure thats pretty important

🤦‍♂️

[scenic tusk]

does anyone know if its possible to get umbrella working for the entire media folder or is it only useful for a personal files

[torn slate]

wdym personal file?

[scenic tusk]

as in my own mod folder

[torn slate]

as far as i know you have to manually enable it for every wokrspace

[scenic tusk]

im trying to set it up for both my folder and the media folder but neither are working

[raven epoch]

did u make

emmyrc.json

[scenic tusk]

yes

for both folders

[raven epoch]

u added the library path?

[scenic tusk]

yes

[raven epoch]

u got emmylua enabled?

[scenic tusk]

yes ive even tried restarting it a few times

[raven epoch]

send screenshoty

make sure ur path is valid

[scenic tusk]

what specifically the emmyrc?

[raven epoch]

y

[scenic tusk]

this first one is for my mod folder and the lua file im using is just a random lua script i pasted from the media folder to test because i dont even have any of my own right now

and this one is for the media folder which im not even sure if itll read it right for this one so i dont really mind this not working

[crimson ore]

any1 know how to add an item or loop via OnZombieDead?

[raven epoch]

seems fine i think

lemme check doc

maybe the extra arguments are causing it?

installation says to just add library

waaait

ayo

@scenic tusk

do C:/

[scenic tusk]

oh my i didnt even catch that

unfortunately that still didnt fix it

[raven epoch]

hmm

are u sure ur path is valid

u can just

click the bar on top in file explorer

[scenic tusk]

yea i could try going the full path from user to library but c-docs-umbrella should work too

[raven epoch]

to get file path then change \ to /

try it i guess

though

seems to be working?

if its giving u 9+ thingy

if its not from another extension

[scenic tusk]

whats the 9+

[raven epoch]

so 9+ problems

[scenic tusk]

now files in media are just saying problems instead of errors

yea so maybe it was the path

[raven epoch]

if it autocompletes

like try writing

IsoPlayer

[scenic tusk]

ah it does

so its working

thank you

[raven epoch]

ye then u got it working ye

ur welcome

are u using

b41 or b42

[scenic tusk]

42

[raven epoch]

aight

just asking cus sometimes

it says stuff are problems

when they are not

at least in b41

anyway i got a problem of me own

i cant figure out how to play an animation without the conditions

[scenic tusk]

ive never touched animations so thats out of my ball park but good luck dawg

[raven epoch]

ye ty

animation fit or no?

tried to get forage anim but couldnt do it

[scenic tusk]

yea kinda looks like theyre either taking notes or diagnosing something out of a book

is there a way in game with the debugger to see if a lua script is even working im trying to added an object the foraging table and even after setting it to 100% on roads with max foraging im struggling to find it so something i did isnt right im assuming

[raven epoch]

use prints

to see if the script runs

you can also use f11 to check for errors

[scenic tusk]

smart

[raven epoch]

f11 -> play button -> it will stop when errored

and also show u where it errored

pretty useful

[scenic tusk]

are lua prints just print() or are they different

[raven epoch]

just print() ye

[scenic tusk]

im used to python and c#

alr

it would have put it int he output log correct because if so then no my script isnt being called

[raven epoch]

it would yes

[scenic tusk]

im trying to base my code off of another mod mixed with the base game foraging categories but its struggling

as far as the structure i would just put it like media/lua/shared correct

[raven epoch]

yeah

client if u want on client server if u want on server

shared if u want on both

[scenic tusk]

yea im just using shared for it because the base categories and the modded categories are both in shared so i think it should work fine there

[raven epoch]

did u connect to any events

[scenic tusk]

i believe so

[civic galleon]

.lua in /Server run on both client and server.

[raven epoch]

wait what

[scenic tusk]

im not sure this is my first time touching lua scripts in here

[raven epoch]

whats the point then 😭

[raven epoch]

do you get any errors?

[civic galleon]

You have to use isClient() and isServer() to filter. That said, I must have done something wrong because I needed both isClient() and sendClientCommand() workflows to separate

[scenic tusk]

no not for my mod

[civic galleon]

Unsure, the folder Client does infact only run on client though

[raven epoch]

isnt that illogical?

if client can see server code thats just asking for exploits

[scenic tusk]

wouldnt server only run on both if its the host running it

[bright fog]

You don't have Umbrella here

[civic galleon]

Don't ask me I didn't write this. I got just as confused as y'all hahahahaha.

I was having even weirder shit like a single file prints to the server-console.txt but when I filter out server code with isClient then it stopped printing to server-console.txt. I will likely never have a real answer

[bright fog]

Also I suggest using locals, not globals

[raven epoch]

oh hey sim i fixed that mod data bug thingy from yesterday

ty for help

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Lua_(language)#Local_and_global

[scenic tusk]

this is just copied code im trying to decipher as i go

[raven epoch]

since u know c# and python all u gotta learn is tables and ur good to go with lua

[bright fog]

Yea

[scenic tusk]

and also pzs references in general but im piecing that together

[civic galleon]

No proper switch-case, lua officially sub tier /s

I say this as a complete js/ts heathen. Speaking of, does LUA have self invoking functions?

[raven epoch]

local Skibidi = { -- this is a table
  [1] = "Testing1", -- integer to string key example
  ["Toilet"] = "Rot", -- string to string
  ["SkibidiFunction"] = function(ExampleArgument)-- string to function adress
      print(ExampleArgument)
  end,
  ExampleStringKey = "Goo" -- strings dont need brackets to add into key
}

print(Skibidi[1])
print(Skibidi["Toilet"])
print(Skibidi.Toilet) -- same thing as above
Skibidi["SkibidiFunction"]("test")
Skibidi.SkibidiFunction("test")

local Table2 = {} -- make a new unique table
Skibidi[Table2] = "example2" -- table adress to string

print(Skibidi[Table2])

most of what u need to know

[scenic tusk]

also what did you mean by this is the umbrella not setup correctly here?

[bright fog]

What are self invoking function ?

You mean class methods ?

[bright fog]

Yea bcs it's highlighting Events

If it was properly setup, you shouldn't get a single error, if your code is well typed and written

But Java elements like that if highlighten means no Umbrella

[scenic tusk]

oh i figured i had it working when it went from errors to problems

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Umbrella_(modding)

[civic galleon]

((i)=>{console.log(i)})() aka silliness, this will run automatically, no variable to call

[bright fog]

Nah that's just EmmyLua

[bright fog]

I am not familiar enough with JavaScripts, I just learned to read a bit of TypeScript yesterday lol

[scenic tusk]

does emmylua have build in autocorrect for pz?

[bright fog]

So function definition that instantly calls itself ?

[bright fog]

No of course not, read the wiki page I sent

[civic galleon]

I'm that jerk that pretends TS is for people who need training wheels (type checking is very important please don't kill me)

[scenic tusk]

yes i have it set up exactly as page suggest however i get pz autocorrect just still have problems

[civic galleon]

Pffft, what do you mean you don't purposely mutate booleans into arrays?

[bright fog]

I'm updating the PZ script extention for vscode 😅

[bright fog]

Did you properly set up the emmyrc file ?

[scenic tusk]

as far as im aware

[bright fog]

I've been working on a video guide for installing EmmyLua but it's not ready

[bright fog]

Ah I see the problem, restart EmmyLua
bottom left > emmylua > restart

[civic galleon]

Typescript easy mode:
let var: any = 'hello world'
hit em with that any data type all day LMFAO

[bright fog]

I don't even remember indicating the type of a variable

[scenic tusk]

yea i had run a restart each time i changed the emmyrc but just did it again and still does not fix the issue

[civic galleon]

Is JavaScript you dont, they made typescript so you could (I'm pretty sure you could in js but no one did)
|| Yup, you can do typeof yourVariable to check a variables data type in JS||

[raven epoch]

is it possible to play an animation such as foraging without the istimedaction itself?

[scenic tusk]

also sim you would know better than most im guessing, is it possible to use umbrella on the base code files itself?

[silent zealot]

I open a second VS Code, and then open the Zomboid media folder (and decompiled java)

That's my reference VS Code, and the umbrella highlighting works in that

[scenic tusk]

second might work better im currently attempting to use one workspace for the different folders just for easier reference and then i tried setting up an emmyrc in each root

[bright fog]

Yes but it will scream at you for duplicate function definitions, and also that folder tends to be massive so it can take up a lot of ram

I usually don't do it, but I should try with EmmyLua to see if it's different

[scenic tusk]

everytime it loads its definetly slow but not awful and i have a pretty beefy computer so i should be fine with that part

[bright fog]

Yes

[bright fog]

Hmm

[scenic tusk]

yea even making it its own workspace with one emmyrc file isnt helping

[bright fog]

What is your file named like ?

[scenic tusk]

.emmyrc.json

if thats the one you mean

[bright fog]

Where did you put it ?

[scenic tusk]

the workspace root

like i said part of it is working i just so happen to be getting problem codes

i get autocorrects though

[bright fog]

Ok that's weird lol

Can you show the error you are getting when hovering Events ?

[scenic tusk]

just undefined globals

thats all the errors

[raven epoch]

maybe ur umbrella file has a problem?

[scenic tusk]

i also get an error with the code im actually trying to do but i think im just calling the wrong thing

[raven epoch]

u downloaded from releases?

[scenic tusk]

not sure i downloaded the most recent one

[raven epoch]

show umbrella file screenshot

[scenic tusk]

not much going on

i renamed the file from the original name but i still call to this one in the emmyrc

used to be umbrella-main

but i dont think that has anything to do with it

[bright fog]

[raven epoch]

ok same as mine

weird

[bright fog]

You don't have 2 Lua extension ?

[scenic tusk]

i have the official lua one

[bright fog]

Yea see

You have 2

The 2nd one is LuaLs

[scenic tusk]

ohhhhhh

[bright fog]

Uninstall it

Only use EmmyLua

[scenic tusk]

bingo

[raven epoch]

how do i do this btw

[scenic tusk]

im dumb i saw that and didnt pay much attention i thought it was autodownloaded because i had setup vs for lua

[raven epoch]

tried PlayAnimation but didnt work (prob because of conditions)

[bright fog]

What tipped me to that conclusion is that it does in fact show you the content of Events so you have 2 conflicting information in that hover

[bright fog]

Check the timed actions code in start, usually you can start an animation, or more specifically a timed action script

[raven epoch]

okey

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/TimedAction_(scripts)

[scenic tusk]

any good resources in here or the modding discord on how to add something to the foraging table

i thought it would be simpler i just need to add a pre-existing item to a pre-existing category

[bright fog]

Nop

[raven epoch]

best way i found was to

look at existing mods

[scenic tusk]

yea thats what ive been doing it just hasnt worked out the best so far but im trying something right now because i just noticed a comma that didnt need to be there

are folders past the shared folder required for scripts to be recognized

or is that just organizational

[raven epoch]

just organizational

u can slap it in there

[scenic tusk]

like do i need to make a media/lua/shared/Foraging/script.lua

okay i thought so

ill see if itll work now

hip hip horray ive foraged a salt lick block

now unfornuately the salt lick doesnt have much going for it like a proper icon or much of anything

[steel plinth]

I'm total newbie in PZ modding, but can someone explain how to do a mod for MP 42.13 that allows players to claim custom buildings as safehouses or how to avoid the game restrictions for that? Right now in vanilla players can't create safehouses in their own buildings 😢
Or maybe someone know about existing working mods with this functions?

Thx for any help!)

[scenic tusk]

anyone know what i could do to do fix the icon/pick up tooltip

or atleast where to look to play with it

the people need salt

is it possible to make an icon that would overide the base game one

ping me if anyone has some info i didnt even realize its 7 in the morning

[crimson ore]

anyway of using proclist in a func?

[bright fog]

If you have an icon at the same path as the item icon I believe it will override

[bright fog]

proclist ?

[bright fog]

Classic lol

[bright fog]

You'd need a whole system to stop griefing or looting of a specific room in a building

[crimson ore]

ProceduralDistributions.list etc. i can get bags and things to spawn in zack inventory using onzombiedead but id like to use a list. for reasons i cannot explain i dont wanna do it the usual way

[steel plinth]

I'm actually just need a creating "safehouses in wild". I'm working on mod collection for server project about surviving on deserted island, but players can't claim a houses that their builds. It's very frustrating 🙁

[bright fog]

Those mods have guides

The true music radio mod simplies uses true music cassettes I believe

There's nothing special to do

[bright fog]

The procedural distributions list is a global table so you can simply use it yes

[crimson ore]

well i mean i want to manually trigger a roll using that func but what method?

[bright fog]

Oh uh I don't think you can do that

[crimson ore]

satic list?

[bright fog]

uh ?

No it's not static

[raven epoch]

what is larger than a cell

[bright fog]

It's a Lua table

[bright fog]

cells

[raven epoch]

ok omw to run target finding performance to the ground

actually nvm a cell is big enough

[raven epoch]

any ideas on why WalkToTimedAction would not work?

it works sometimes but doesnt work more often

im guessing the action itself has a range limit but there is no such thing in its lua file

[brave bone]

Thank you 🙂

[signal dew]

🤔 hello guys, I have a question to ask

If I subscribe to my map mod and also have its local version, and then I update the local version but haven't uploaded it to the creative workshop yet, will there be any problems when I use my subscribed map in multiplayer games?

[small osprey]

careful though, never print a : as these are interpreted in some way and it may swallow a good chunk of your print silently. I'm not gonna get these hours of my life back

[tranquil kindle]

Game will always load steam subscribed version over local. You might end up doing changes on local, but it will still load steam version and you might wonder why changes aren't doing anything, thats because of that. If you work on your mod and want to see changes you need to unsubscribe mod, but then if you want to play On server, just subscribe it back, otherwise it wont let you due the diffrence in files

[signal dew]

but I created the server in multiplayer mode. Will it affect other players?

[tranquil kindle]

If server uses steam version, it will require steam version, if you have it unsubscribed it will "allow" you to attempt to join, but will not let you in, because of diffrence in files, but others that use steam version will have no issue. If you want to join the server you need to resubscribe the mod

[signal dew]

If I update the Workshop version of my map while I'm playing the game, will it cause server issues?

[tranquil kindle]

I don't know how updating Map mods works. I assume its diffrent compared to normal mods as You can't really add new map mods to ongoing saves without hoops N loops (it is possible i heard, but i have no idea about map mods).

Id suggest ask in Mapping if you have map mod related questions

#mapping

[signal dew]

I don't need to experience the updated content in the old save files. I just want to ensure that updating the map won't damage my server save files

[tranquil kindle]

Updating the map on local should not effect anything AS long as you don't update Workshop item IF the server is using Workshop one to begin with

[signal dew]

If I update the workshop version, will it damage my server?

[tranquil kindle]

But updating map mod works in diffrent way than other mods AS FAR AS I KNOW. I heard that updating map mod will break servers IF you don't know what youre doing

Not only your server, bur pretty much every server that uses it and they don't have backup

Though steam offers to revert to older versions on steam workshop, but if it would fix broken server already affected? I don't know that.

Map modding is very unique in terms that it takes alot of time, skill, creativity and pretty much knowing what you do, because people's servers are at stake and they might come to you with pitchforks

[signal dew]

oh Damn, I'll just hold off on updating the version for now

I just did some bug fixes and adjusted the orientation of furniture in certain buildings, and then I added some furniture that I made myself

[tranquil kindle]

As i said, if you're just stating mapping i'd really suggest asking people that have done maps. I'm 3d/texture oriented modder, but i've been part of servers that closed because of poorly updated map mods that were cause to wipe progress

[signal dew]

I am also inquiring on the unofficial pz map channel

It's just that there aren't many people around during this time period

[tranquil kindle]

One is losing items because the item that adds them failed, but the way zomboid maps works is diffrent. IF it were that already created cells no longer need mod once map is created it would be diffrent, but thats not the case from my limited experience

[tranquil kindle]

There is also PZ Modding Community that has mapping channel too, but how active that is i don't know

[signal dew]

hm I'll just wait for a while

I hope someone can tell me on the unofficial map channel a bit later what would happen if I do that. A few hours later, I should be going to bed

[outer crypt]

running into an odd issue, I can upload a new version of a mod, exactly the same as an old version with a new id name and number, it downloads on my clients without issues but the server will not download it. Even if I push it to the server via ftp it still can't see it. Anyone ever run into that before?

[outer crypt]

odd, I had to completely rebuild the server shrug

[worthy wharf]

version 42
I would like to replace the yellow hazard suit with a different skin
did I miss something?

when i change item property ClothingItem = CustomHazmatSuit it goes blank

[merry seal]

Hellur... I am an absolute noob interested in getting into modding. So what does one start with? A cooking mod.. I'm starting simple with one item. Got my item, can spawn it via item viewer. Got my recipe and it registers the in/output. But when I hit craft, it doesn't consume the inputs and doesn't create the output. In my item viewer, the item shows as craft:false. Even if I copy a vanilla recipe into my recipes file it won't craft. I am at an utter loss xD Help please.

[worthy wharf]

i am also trying to learn to mod PZ, but a bit harder now with the new version 42, less documentation
try this example below:

craftRecipe MakeNewspaperHat2
{
    timedAction = Making,
    time        = 20,
    Tags        = InHandCraft,
    category    = > OnlyFarms,
    inputs
    {
        item 1 [Base.RippedSheets] mode:destroy flags[AllowFavorite;InheritFavorite],
    }
    outputs
    {
        item 1 Base.Hat_NewspaperHat,
    }
}

[merry seal]

This is what I'm using:

craftRecipe DehydrateOnion
{
    Time = 100,
    Tags = AnySurfaceCraft;Cooking,
    SkillRequired = Cooking:1,
    category = Cooking,   
    xpAward = Cooking:3,
    AllowBatchCraft = true,

    inputs
    {
        item 1 [Base.Onion] mode:destroy,
    }

    outputs
    {
        item 1 SpiceAHolic.DriedOnion,
    }
}

}

[worthy wharf]

let me see your item SpiceAHolic.DriedOnion,

[merry seal]

item DriedOnion
{
DisplayCategory = Food,
ItemType = base:food,
Weight = 0.1,
Icon = Onion,
FoodType = Vegetable,
DaysFresh = 180,
DaysTotallyRotten = 360,
HungerChange = -5.0,
Calories = 10.0,
Carbohydrates = 2.0,
Lipids = 0.1,
Proteins = 0.3,
StaticModel = Onion,
WorldStaticModel = Onion,
}
}

[worthy wharf]

and the Onion too please

[merry seal]

that's base item

I think the item is fine.. given I can spawn it in with the item list viewer

[worthy wharf]

come to BC

voice

[hot plinth]

I had a mod Seedy that let people get seeds from crops in older version, but B42 has this basically built in right? Is there anything that isn't included that my mod is worth updating for?

[willow tulip]

Nope, .pack files override loose files.

Ask me how I know. looks at dashboard that he had to rename files of because it kept loading game files for certain icons

You might be able to make your own .pack file, I dunno if mods support them however.

[bright fog]

Rip

[bright fog]

Then the solution is to change the icon reference in the script file

[willow tulip]

that you can do, also via LUA with doparam I believe.

'partial' script override files should also work

since those values should just be overwritten

[bronze yoke]

Lua, not LUA

[shy mantle]

Ignoring what went obviously wrong, did you know a NORMAL race car can spawn from a table of burnt vehicles?

ProfessionVehicles.RaceCarBurnt = {
    General = { "Base.RaceCarBurnt", "Base.RaceCar12", "Base.RaceCar34", "Base.RaceCar58", },
    Alternate = { "Base.RaceCarBurnt", },
}

whoops?

[sonic hearth]

Could anyone help/make a no sleep mod for build 42.13.1 singleplayer which simply resets fatigue to 0 every time (you can still sleep but its not needed)? I tried doing it myself and others say that its easy but I just can't make it.

[scenic tusk]

So would that mean making another item file for the salt lick with the same name and then just keeping everything the same besides the icon?

[scenic tusk]

Thanks for the info, are semi colons alright or is it best to just avoid both

[bright fog]

No

You override a specific parameter in the item script

This is simply done by defining that item script again with only the parameter you want to overwrite

item itemID
{
icon = ...,
}

[unreal copper]

anyone know where you can change the year for magazines? they moved the file in 42.13 and im not sure where to look

[scenic tusk]

Oh okay that’s even simpler

[bright fog]

The year ?

Wdym ?

@willow tulip if comments bring nothing in #1318920979581501502 please thow them here, not there

The goal is not to bloat that thread

[icy night]

Hi all, anyone know of mods that emit very loud sounds from a tile?

[bright fog]

Literally a million mods ? 😅

[icy night]

trying to make a storm siren, but need examples

[bright fog]

You should be able to find a bunch of examples for this

[scenic tusk]

wouldnt the files for random events have examples of it

[bright fog]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2834231099

[willow tulip]

My comment is that he'd be breaking most of the existing mods by forcing that requirement

[icy night]

ty

[bright fog]

He's ONLY talking about mod ID and I completely approve with him

[willow tulip]

Don't allow spaces and special symbols (except underscores and dashes) in mod id's, dir names and file names.

[bright fog]

An ID being able to have special characters in it is extremely cursed and at the end of the day is sources of problems

[willow tulip]

And im only talking about directories and filenames.

[bright fog]

nvm

I still think special characters shouldn't be allowed

That'd be a change that would break some mods sure, but it's already breaking the game

If you download some chinese mods that have chinese characters in those IDs, filenames and directory names, it throws hidden errors in the console

[willow tulip]

If its supported by windows/linux/mac, it should be supported by games that run on windows/linux/mac. You shouldn't break support for legal filenames just because they upset you.

[scenic tusk]

would that include things like item ids or just the modids and file names

[willow tulip]

What you allow as legal for item/modID's is up to the developers, but you should follow OS support for legal filenames/folders.

[scenic tusk]

I agree i was just asking because my recipe names use spaces since i couldnt figure out how else to space the words out like the base game recipes

[bronze yoke]

you are absolutely exaggerating how many mods do this

[bright fog]

Agreed

Also by keeping to only latin characters, you ensure that'll it work in any OS in fact

And in any environment

[willow tulip]

' ' (space) is still very well supported.

[bright fog]

Say you accept weird ass formatting for folder names from a weird ass OS or some shit, you basically put yourself in a position where mods are only working for that specific environment

[bright fog]

Spaces for folder names and file names is fine, but not special characters

[willow tulip]

Sure, id limit it to whatever works on mac, windows and linux.

(without having to have a special language installed)

I remember the most fun stuff ever in windows 95/98 era, where you could actually get filenames onto your hard drive with unsupported characters and windows would refuse to delete them -_-;

had to drop down to dos and use the 7.3 filename

[willow tulip]

Also, mainly refering to mods that use space in their filenames or folders.

[scenic tusk]

quick question away from this debate, when i reference an icon can I just reference a file name or does it have to be the same name format as base items

[willow tulip]

Depends how your referencing it.

[bright fog]

Read the icon wiki page

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Icon_(item_parameter)

[willow tulip]

if your using get_texture() you need to use the proper filename, if your using icon= then the game will prefix it with Item_ before looking for the file

[scenic tusk]

ive found out why the salt lick icon sits on the foraging thing so oddly

anyone know what the base size is for icons?

[willow tulip]

TIL saltlick is 2 tiles tall. Those cows must have really licked the hell outta that thing..

[bronze yoke]

all modern OSes do support spaces in path names but i've found software support is still really spotty so they're worth avoiding

[wet sandal]

RejectSpaces,ReturnToCamel

[willow tulip]

thatsNotEvenProperCamelCase.

[wet sandal]

RejectCamel,ReturnToPascal

[bronze yoke]

there is no consensus on which 'camel case' refers to

the terms 'lower camel case' and 'pascal case/upper camel case' are preferable because of this

[unreal copper]

the little date that comes after a magazine, ex. (HottieZ - May 1992, OSCC Insider - September 1990)

[bright fog]

Oh that's a magazine item right ? So it'd probably be in the translation files

[willow tulip]

Translation files?

damn you beat me by that much.

[bright fog]

:3

[unreal copper]

i checked there, but didn't find anything. it used to be like an rng thing in speciallootspawns, but i think they removed it in 42.13

[willow tulip]

Much logic was moved to java side.

lemme do a file scan...

StoryClutter.OfficeTreatClutter = {
    "Base.Apple",
...
    "Base.HottieZ", -- what a scumbag!

Devs be hottie shaming 😢

[unreal copper]

lol

[willow tulip]

    public static void onCreateHottieZ(InventoryItem item) {
        boolean hunkZ = Rand.NextBool(20);
        RecipeCodeHelper.DateResult dateResult = getDate(item, hunkZ ? 1973 : 1953);
        String name = item.getDisplayName();
        if (hunkZ) {
            item.setTexture(Texture.getSharedTexture("Item_MagazineNudie2"));
            item.setWorldStaticModel(ModelKey.HOTTIE_ZGROUND_2);
            item.setStaticModel(ModelKey.HOTTIE_Z2);
            name = Translator.getText("IGUI_MagazineTitle_HunkZ");
        }

        setMagazineName(item, hunkZ ? "HunkZ" : "HottieZ", name, dateResult);
    }

ItemCodeOnCreate.java

[unreal copper]

i'm trying to get this for every magazine, would this also work for any other type?

also thank you very much for looking

[willow tulip]

Look at ProjectZomboid\media\scripts\generated\items\literature.txt

[bright fog]

No way that's hardcoded

[willow tulip]

item HottieZ {...
OnCreate = ItemCodeOnCreate.onCreateHottieZ,

[scenic tusk]

got it working thanks guys now i just gotta fine tune my art

[willow tulip]

you need to change the onCreate method to your own LUA version of that above function

[willow tulip]

? Rephrase?

[wet sandal]

I believe it

[willow tulip]

If you downgrade to B42.12 you might also be able to just grab the old lua onCreateHottieZ() function.

(though realistically, you might need B42.11 since they moved a lot of stuff to java in B42.12)

[unreal copper]

what i'm looking for used to look like this, was this removed entirely?

[willow tulip]

yes it was all moved to Java.

[unreal copper]

ah, i see

[bright fog]

No way, that's hardcoded ??? surprised reaction, completely shocked (actually shocked) shocked emoji, :o :o

[willow tulip]

you need to basically just readd that, with a new name(?) and then change the onCreate. It might override the java if you have LUA with the same name, I dunno.

[bronze yoke]

it will

the recipe code is still invoked through lua

the class is exposed so it references the method through lua

[willow tulip]

Ah. Yea when they decided all the onCreates should be in java -_-;

[willow tulip]

ahh I was wondering how that worked

[willow tulip]

So yea, just readd that code and it will get used instead of the java.

(Some changes may be needed, since tags massively changed)

[unreal copper]

i'll test it out, thanks

[bright fog]

Yea I didn't realize that was a Java OnCreate tho, that's fine, I thought that was something called when spawning the item via java or some shit like that

[willow tulip]

No they only do that when.... sigh, spawning everything else in the entire game with any kinda condition/uses/etc tags.

looking at you, lessfull tag

grumbles at stupid tag that makes all lighters/smokes/etc spawn at 0~50% capacity, ie average of 25%

[scenic tusk]

much nicer salt lick icons

i just found out that changes will update while in game and thats much better than reloading the save everytime i change a small thing

[willow tulip]

yea in debug mode, some files are watched for changes. Others are completely cached till you restart the entire game..

[scenic tusk]

ah well atleast what i was working on was updating that definetly helped

[shy mantle]

@willow tulip do you know the difference between isAlarmed and hasAlarm for vehicles?

[willow tulip]

Nope, but if i had to guess it would be related to the fact that after it goes off, it can't be triggered again. (that or its related to if the alarm is currently going off)

    public boolean isAlarmed() {
        return this.alarmed;
    }

    public void setAlarmed(boolean alarmed) {
        this.alarmed = alarmed;
        if (alarmed) {
            this.setPreviouslyEntered(false);
        }
    }

    public void triggerAlarm() {
        if (this.alarmed && !this.previouslyEntered) {
            this.alarmed = false;
            this.alarmStartTime = GameTime.getInstance().getWorldAgeHours();
            this.alarmAccumulator = 0.0F;
            this.chooseAlarmSound();
            VehicleScript.Sounds sounds = this.script.getSounds();
            boolean bLooping = sounds.alarmLoop.contains(this.chosenAlarmSound);
            if (bLooping) {
                this.onAlarmStart();
            }
        } else {
            this.alarmed = false;
        }
    }

        return this.script.getSounds().alarmEnable;
    }

So hasAlarm just determins if the car has an alarm sound at all in the scripts, and not if the alarm is currently enabled.

isAlarmed tells you if its going to trigger when someone gets in.

[shy mantle]

Yeah, I'd just need isAlarmed then. Had no clue hasAlarm was needed for anything

[willow tulip]

its used to outright disable the alarm sound on vehicles that don't have alarmSound set

[dusky tartan]

Hi everyone, I'm brand new to mod making. I'm starting with a custom model helmet, I successfully added the item to the game and it's droppable, pick up-able and properly registers as a helmet and everything. While it initially appeared as an orange question mark, I was successfully able to fix that by solving a discrepancy in one of the XML files. However, now it appears as a blue question mark. I first tried fixing the texture file (I realized it wasn't 256x256) and then re-imported the FBX models with the new texture file in the proper workshop directory and everything, as well as the world model to put it on floors and stuff. Nothing seems to be working :( anybody know what else I should check around for? I can answer any questions about like file directories or send screenshots in-game and stuff if anyone needs. please ping me if you have any ideas 🙏

wait, it has turned into this like purple-ish one?

[bronze yoke]

missing icon, usually tricked by the Item_ prefix

Icon = MyItem, looks for Item_MyItem.png

[dusky tartan]

it's like that on the ground too- even though i supposedly have a worldobject

it doesn't even appear on my head :(

[bronze yoke]

if it's like that on the ground the WorldStaticModel does not exist (if it exists but there's something wrong with it it will usually just be invisible)

[dusky tartan]

naur. does that mean my file directory for it is wrong?

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Icon_(item_parameter)

[dusky tartan]

ok! and what should i look for to figure out why my model isn't appearing when i wear the object

[bright fog]

ops sorry thought you had an icon problem

I mean it seems you do anyway

For your model can be many reasons, what albion mentions should be correct

Make sure to define a WorldStaticModel

[dusky tartan]

like in my xml files?

[bright fog]

No

In your script file

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/WorldStaticModel

Uses a model script

[dusky tartan]

omg i think i put the wrong directory halppp

ok hold on

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Model_(scripts)

[dusky tartan]

wait no i didnt its the right directory

wtf

[bright fog]

What are you talking about ?

[dusky tartan]

is this not correct??

agh nvm i looked at the wiki, this is just straight up incomplete

[small osprey]

Please upgrade to vscode 🥹. You may enjoy it.

[dusky tartan]

you're right 😭 this was a quick install for me i do love vs code

[clear aurora]

hey, im in my way on making my first mod, im almost finished, but for the final touch i want to make a blender model into an object an place it in the map, is there like a guide for that or smething? thankss

[noble fossil]

To anyone making foraging mods for MP, all new foraging items must be in the base module not a custom module or else they can't be picked up. Nearly every foraging mod for 42 on the workshop has this issue.

[winter bolt]

should have the name of that fbx file at the end

dont need to include the .fbx though just the name

[bright fog]

Project Zomboid Scripts extension fork

This is a direct fork of the PZ Syntax Extension which provided help in creating scripts. It will be expanded upon in the following days or so.
https://github.com/SirDoggyJvla/pz-syntax-extension
https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=SimKDT.project-zomboid-scripts

[sly gazelle]

I'm editing some scenarios of Pillow's mod, and there is a function that basically wipe all the inventory of the player on the start:

            pl:clearWornItems();
            pl:getInventory():clear();

Is possible to replace this with one that doesn't wipe everything, leaving items like the ID Card that vanilla spawns and the key and stash map (annotated map?) Uncle Dave was a Prepper adds on the player on spawn?

[silent zealot]

You need to be a bit more specific. Do you mean as a world tile (like a piece of scenery/building), or an inventory item laying on the floor at pre-determines locations, or something else?

[silent zealot]

Yes, you could write your own function that goes through the inventory and decides which items to remove. Or... you could remove everything and regenerate the stuff you want them to have.

[sly gazelle]

i was looking through DWAP's code for spawn those items... seems pretty complex

while it mention the key as Base.Key1 i didnt find the item id of the stash map

just as an example

[silent zealot]

If tehre is an existing function to add the stash map then call that.

[sly gazelle]

from another mod? is this possible?

[silent zealot]

No, I mean you have code right there

is that in a function you can make use of?

otherwise, just go the other way - iterate through the player inventory and delete things that don't meet your "keep this item" criteria

[sly gazelle]

yeah i think i will go this route

[silent zealot]

Has anyone worked out how B42.13 is assigning clothing to zombies, because it's changed from earlier versions. I've got a debug item in my personal tweaks mod (Ring of Protection) that has no recipe, is in no loot tables, is not in any zombie clothing tables, and should only be accessible via debug mode spawning... but it spawns on Zombies as often as normal jewelry.

[bright dawn]

Good Day everyone, I'm trying to make a mod, where can I find a documentation here with regards to OnCreate and OnTest in CraftRecipe? I was reading it and I cant grasp the syntax since upon testing the mod then appying the said custom function it just errors the game, thanks. I've read the wiki and sad to say its not enough example https://pzwiki.net/wiki/CraftRecipe

My aim is to constraint the crafting recipe to simulate dynamic changing the amount of sellable goods and price that fluctuates from time to time since making a dedicated UI for it is beyond what I can do and I cant seems to make it work, the documentation is kinda confusing on my part given the fact that I'm not a native english speaker
this is my prototype code, I would love to gift my friend this mod on this new year. thank you in advance everyone https://pastebin.com/fyuWmJjj

[bright dawn]

Omg its you sir! thanks for the jumpstart to moding btw

[scenic tusk]

can evolved recipes have more than one base item to trigger the recipe or can it only be one

or could i use adding a certain ingredient to a preexisting evolved recipe to make a different evolved recipe

[crimson ore]

any1 got a list of rooms and zones?

[dull chasm]

im updating my clothing mod rn, my head clothing item doesnt hide hair anymore. how can i fix that?

[bright fog]

Np !

[bright fog]

Hmm, I'll add more examples in a github repo I think

[tranquil kindle]

Check vanilla hats clothingitem XML. It has hat category depending on hat.

[buoyant violet]

im back with some bs again

I need testers to see if a hook im modifying works well in MP

[sonic needle]

i mean i have a server

[buoyant violet]

I will release RPM mod unlisted

[frail violet]

Hi, I'm trying to fix an issue with my mod. My issue is with clothing.xml I'm assuming, as the outfits work perfectly, but the boots don't seem to be applied/equipped when selecting the custom outfits.

Has anyone experienced this, or possibly know how to fix it?

[winter bolt]

are they boots from the vanilla game?

for some reason any clothing items you add to clothing.xml also need to be in your mods fileguidtable so you have to copy paste any vanilla items you use

[frail violet]

Yes, they are vanilla boots. That explains it, thank you.

[winter bolt]

i had completely forgotten about that so ive added it to the wiki page now
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Clothing.xml

[red kettle]

hii, i am interested in making my own posters to add to the game however i am a total noob at this stuff, does anyone know of any tutorials/tips?

[bright fog]

By poster you mean the item right ?

[red kettle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3113485839&searchtext=poster yes, something similar to this mod!

[bright fog]

Well that's not an item, that's a tile

@hot patrol knows how to do that, they did it for their own mod too

[red kettle]

ohh my bad, thank u so much though !!

[small osprey]

amazing!

[bright fog]

More 👀

[small osprey]

it will save lifes, or at least brain cells 😅

[bright fog]

For now it works decently well

I need to stress test it

[small osprey]

I'll try next time I do scripts.

[hot patrol]

I didn't do anything too special with mine. I was helping Guns test their framework https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3431926792

[bright fog]

This is for the next update

[dull chasm]

will do, thanks 👽

[lusty kindle]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_structure make sure it follows the correct mod folder structure. You'd need to provide more details for anyone to help you out though

[buoyant violet]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3634727573&

feel free to provide any feedback friends

[wet sandal]

My main feedback is that its a bad idea to inject new dependancies into existing mods

[clear aurora]

its like a piece of scenery

like furtniture

for decoration but the player should be able to carry and place it

[buoyant violet]

I had to, was an emergency fix that turned into a tool that other people can use

[hybrid musk]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3631541848
A couple of guns added to b42.13.1 Multiplayer, tested with 100 players and working with Lua=true

[silent zealot]

Three hours ago I was going to actually play some zomboid but then I wanted a silencer mod that worked on everything instead of specific weapons only so I made this instead: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3634876505

[cold skiff]

Hello everyone, I've never used multiplayer mode before, as I started making mods in version 42. Can someone tell me what changes or things I need to keep in mind to make my single-player mods work correctly in multiplayer? Are there any changes to the file structure, code, etc.?

[hasty wharf]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3633382126
Tracks ALL 267+ Lua events automatically, no configuration needed
Server Administrators:
Identify which mods are causing server lag
Monitor high-frequency events (OnTick, OnPlayerUpdate, OnZombieUpdate)
Track performance over time and optimize server configuration
Compare performance before/after adding mods
Generate reports for troubleshooting

Mod Developers:
Profile your mod's event handlers in real-time
Optimize callback execution times
Ensure your mod doesn't cause performance issues
Debug event registration and triggering
Compare performance across different implementations

[silent zealot]

That looks useful!

[raven epoch]

how does one play animations in isoplayer

i cant figure it out

[silent zealot]

If I'm hosting a server using "host" to test my mods in multiplayer, is there any difference between these two options?

[sonic needle]

yes. those are the same found in the INI file for dedicated servers

[raven epoch]

ok so im trying to play an emote but i cant

[sonic needle]

one loads the Name of the mod, IE the 108600 ID

the other loads the name module IE WAR_REDUX

[raven epoch]

am i stupid

[sonic needle]

is it even playing it? or

[raven epoch]

nope not playing

no errors

maybe the anim is deprecated?

or does it have to do with condition

im confused

[silent zealot]

But in terms of testing the mod's code, they work they same?

[sonic needle]

yes they should

[raven epoch]

testing with removed condition

[sonic needle]

if it played it would

• Play

• Play the surrender animation

• Fail

• Fail due to XML params

[raven epoch]

nope same with no conditions

rlly weird and annoying

[fallow hollow]

Hey guys
wanted to ask if there's really no way how to change individual vanilla recipes - tried searching here, found some resources, but if I want to override one recipe in recipes.txt then that's nonsense..
Thanks

[worthy wharf]

i guess this "require" option

name=errorMagnifier
poster=poster.png
icon=icon.png
id=errorMagnifier
description= Strictly for debugging purposes, creates in-game popups to make error reporting clear and easy.
versionMin=42.0
author=Chuckleberry Finn
require=\ChuckleberryFinnAlertSystem,

[worthy wharf]

i believe you can overwrite by just giving your new parameters
not sure if mandatory fields should go in, but you can test

like:
recipe sunny side up egg
-egg
-salt

then you just make
recipe sunny side up egg
-egg

then salt is removed

[fallow hollow]

I tried that with just change in time and it didn't work :/

is that a problem that the file is not called recipes.txt like original ? I thought only recipe name is important

[bright fog]

The file name doesn't matter, juste make sure it's very specific to not clash with vanilla or other mods

[bright fog]

Also may I suggest you this
https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=SimKDT.project-zomboid-scripts

It probably won't catch your problem for now since I haven't added parameter checking

But it helps reading scripts

[fallow hollow]

thanks a lot
I've spent 20 years in idea, I can't picture myself moving to vscode 🙁 I really appreciate the work did on that and in here, I truly do

[bright fog]

Rip didn't see it was IDEA

Also comments use /* */

Not --

[fallow hollow]

sorry about that 🙂

[bright fog]

Tho it shouldn't matter because it just ignores the -- line

Do what's the problem with you recipe ?

[fallow hollow]

back to basics - I found this in previous comments here
https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/86011-allow-lua-to-edit-recipes-in-b42/

and I wanted to ask about current status - maybe it changed in recent version, maybe there was some breakthrough

I wanted a very basic thing - change 1 parameter in a recipe, time. (if you use scissors to cut up belt, I wanted it fast. a bit slower with knife)

Spent some time with that but it's not going anywhere, so I am wondering - maybe there's some rule and approach I didn't find yet, or maybe I should just abandon .txt "override" and try to lua approach in that link

for example, I am altering an item's parameter like this in another mod:
local fireFuelRatio = (itemData.burnTime * 1.5) / currentWeight

        item:DoParam("FireFuelRatio = " .. fireFuelRatio)

Maybe I could do the same with just time in existing "recipe" object ?
Not overwrite whole recipes.txt 😄

[raven epoch]

yo anyone know how to play anims

the only way i figured out was using istimedactions but some of those actions require lots of stuff

they use setaction on luatimedobject and setting that myself causes errors

[silent zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-bad-the-simpsons-bad-simpsons-gif-19384049

So, the good news is recipe editing via lua is possible. The bad news is you will need to do sneaky stuff with reflection to access private fields. The good news is the Starlit Library does this for you. The bad news is time is an int so gets passed by copy instead of passed by reference.

You could probably override the crafting timed action setup to change the time. Which is overkill for something so simple that should have an setTime() API .

[fallow hollow]

exactly
Thanks a lot for taking time to reply 🙂
I scrapped the idea altogether, ("we are too early" 😄 ) and just pressed F5, spent whole ingame day cutting up belts (after clearing up whole fallas lake)

[silent zealot]

hahahaha

Debug mode -> cheats -> timed action instant

[fallow hollow]

wanted to do the same with digital watches, but I ain't itching that bad, it kinda makes sense it's complicated .. I saw digital watch internals as a kid and I can like with that

[silent zealot]

Only takes a few seconds to access the internals of a digital watch. Assuming you don't mind them being a bit broken.

[fallow hollow]

yeah considering how long everything takes to load up, I don't even want to turn off the game, activate debug mode, do the deed, close the game, remove the parameter, fire it up again

If there isn't the "added value" of creating a mod that hopefuly solves the 'pain' for someone else, too, then I don't wanna do it at all

[silent zealot]

I just play in debug mode.

[fallow hollow]

😮
the F2 key itself that does something else, other than pause ( I am not sure what that is) makes that unreal for me
errr sorry for spamming, thanks for your time, it's "solved" for now

[silent zealot]

I use that open (under "accessability" for some reason) and never have to hit F2.

[bright fog]

There's thing you can do but it tends to be either tricky or limited

See this
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/CraftRecipe#Modifying_existing_recipes

[bright fog]

You can't overwrite recipes actually

You can do single parameters overwrite by redefining the same recipe with only the parameter you want to change and it'll change only that parameter in the original recipe

[fallow hollow]

thanks
well...that would work, I only want time changed 🧐

[bright fog]

Yup so that will do it

The main limitations regarding recipe modification are inputs outputs and mappers

Mappers you can add stuff easily, remove idk
Inputs you can add to an existing input if you have a way to identify it, outputs I believe you can too

[bronze yoke]

steam workshop: workshop items for the server and joining clients to download (needed even when ingame hosted because the server keeps a separate copy of mods)
mods: actual mods from those workshop items to enable

[silent zealot]

So more useful for a dedicated server where the server needs to download mods?

But with "host" it has access to all your local mods

[frail siren]

Is there any b42.13 mod template for MP compatibility? Or a full guide for a new folder and file structures for moders, especially for MP?

[bronze yoke]

no

it needs to download a copy for the server regardless

the exception being anything in the cache dir so it's not too annoying for local testing

[silent zealot]

Maybe I'll just make singleplayer only mods instead of having to figure all this out 😛

From a quick test I have 12 mods working in MP and 13 with issues of some sort so that's almost a 50/50 chance of getting lucky.

[zealous maple]

hello, I have a server that i connect locally. Im trying to send a client command to the server and a server command to client. lua/client sendClientCommand("test", "hello", nil) and on lua/server local function onClientCommand_test(...) if module ~= "test" or command ~= "hello" then return end print ("hello") end Events.OnClientCommand.Add(onClientCommand_test) i never see hello. it works on solo but not when joining the server. I have in client a print("client) and server print("server) i can see them in the console. Is this the correct way on a server or do i need to do something on the server? like RCON?

[quasi kernel]

Are you using Host?

[zealous maple]

no im using join on my own server

[quasi kernel]

Like the in-game hosting system I mean, not a dedicated.

Ah..

Reason I ask is because server-related stuff isn't going to pop up in client output, wanted to make sure you were looking in the right place.

For in-game hosting that's usually under coop-logs iirc

Servers have something else

[zealous maple]

yeah im looking in server and client logs

[quasi kernel]

Wait, are your args "..."?

Or was that just to simplify

(Because that's technically valid syntax in lua last I recall, it's just weird)

[zealous maple]

didnt want to print them = ) (module, command, player, args)

[quasi kernel]

Valid hehe

So I imagine the client is firing correctly but the server isn't picking up on it for some reason-

[zealous maple]

what im trying to do is get all players even the offline players in a dropdown

yeah that is my stand point aswell

[quasi kernel]

Unless your aforementioned server print is working when events are received, I'd recommend printing the args in the OnClientEvent function just in case.

Make sure the data is feeding in the way you expect it to, one time I had the order screwy lol

[zealous maple]

i have this print("CMD:", module, command)

in the function and that isnt showing

[quasi kernel]

Does that print?

One second

I don't know if that's valid lua syntax or not- lemme double check

It very well could just be erroring on the server for all I know

idk why but sometimes the errors are quiet

[zealous maple]

thank you are taking the time to help me!

[quasi kernel]

Oh wow weird, print takes multiple arguments?

I literally never knew that LOL

Also yea!

[zealous maple]

🙂

[quasi kernel]

It looks like an atypical concat but it seems valid from what I saw on the official webpage?

[zealous maple]

maybe it is not vaild! ill try to make it like normal

[quasi kernel]

Yeye, try a regular concat just in case, remember tostring() it just in case

Wait

WAit

You're sending "test" and "hello" as the command. The return thus will basically "kill" the call where it stands.

wait

im crazy

raaa

[zealous maple]

if its not test or command

[quasi kernel]

Sorry I'm misunderstanding ahiuewahiufwae

Gimme a sec, Zomboid stuff is wonk sometimes lol

Do try that concat thing though just in case, Kahlua has its quirks

I don't think parts of the math library are even there

[zealous maple]

if its not test or not hello

[quasi kernel]

Yeye I see your logic now

[bronze yoke]

when are you sending your command

[zealous maple]

from client

[quasi kernel]

No like, when from the client

After what event?

[zealous maple]

ahh no from a mod

ahh sorry. i have a ui with a dropdown and a button Get. and the function for the button is sending the command

can i paste all the code here?

[quasi kernel]

Yeye! That'd probably help, just format it first.

```lua
Code goes here!
```

It'll format differently for you, that's okay.

[zealous maple]

it is too big 125 to big=)

[quasi kernel]

You can just let it post as a .txt if it'll permit you to

[bronze yoke]

are you in b42?

[zealous maple]

b41

have i mixed them up?

[bronze yoke]

no there's just a bug in b42 that might have tripped you up

but it doesn't happen in b41

[zealous maple]

ahh i see. I have been reading for days now. when i as a AI for help they feel way off and this feels correct.

ask*

did the txt show?

[quasi kernel]

I exist again hold on

Okay so @zealous maple this might sound silly but

Are you an admin on your server

[zealous maple]

yes i have admin in red befor my admin name

[quasi kernel]

Hm..

[zealous maple]

takes forever to debug awell. need to upload it to workshop. restart server then you can se if it works 🙂

[quasi kernel]

Did the change of string concat change output or anything?

Forgive me if I'm wrong but I dont think this is a valid multi-line comment.

Multi-line starts with two dashes

(which is what the IDE is suggesting to me here)

[zealous maple]

there are 2 🙂

[quasi kernel]

There are..?

Not in the file you sent- weird.

[zealous maple]

NOO!

i got that from some forum and just pasted it in there

booting up. lets hope it was that silly misstake!

[quasi kernel]

It very well could've been, there's a fair chance your file didn't even run LOL

[bronze yoke]

yeah this file won't run it's unparseable

[quasi kernel]

Likely errored on boot and then just sat in stasis

I imagine the server function wasn't properly defined because of that, so your client-server command was lost to the void

..basically anything in that file probably failed to define correctly.

[raven epoch]

how different is isoplayer in b42 compared to b41

ignoring mp would it still work the same?

i heard there was a render limit thats why me ask

[zealous maple]

didnt print print("Module:".. module .." Command:".. command) =/

[quasi kernel]

Definitely check for any stack traces

[zealous maple]

i will hope i can see it. I cant see any errors i client or server logs

thank you for ur time!

[quasi kernel]

Yeye!!

[raven epoch]

whats ur final code rn

[zealous maple]

code rn?

[raven epoch]

did u manage to get it working

[zealous maple]

im still trying to debug. It dont seem too work. added this on the top of the server fil print("DEBUG: SERVER FILE IS LOADED")

so that is my next try

[raven epoch]

can u show ur code i can try helping

[zealous maple]

it is the same as txt above but –-[[
local world = getWorld()
if world and world.getAllKnownPlayers then
local known = world:getAllKnownPlayers()
-- safe usage
end
–-]] and alot more debug

if you can see them, else i can send some snipps if u need

[raven epoch]

ye the indentation is kinda confusing me tho

can u send some snipps

[zealous maple]

im trying cachyos and i have to hard restet every 10 min when im restating server and so on.

    if module == "ZDItemGiver" and command == "sendingPlayers" and ZDItemGiver_UIInstance then
        ZDItemGiver_UIInstance:populatePlayerDropdown(args)
    end
end
Events.OnServerCommand.Add(OnServerCommand_ZDItemGiver_UI)


function ZDItemGiver_UI:requestAllPlayers()
    sendClientCommand("ZDItemGiver", "GetPlayers", nil)
end
function ZDItemGiver_UI:createChildren()
    ISPanel.createChildren(self)
    local previewWidth = 150
    local contentWidth = self.width - (previewWidth + 20)
    
    self.playerSelect = ISComboBox:new(10, 35, contentWidth, 20)
    self.playerSelect:initialise()
    self.playerSelect:instantiate()
    self:addChild(self.playerSelect)    

    self:requestAllPlayers()
end

this is from client

local function onClientCommand_ItemGiver(module, command, player, args)
print("Module:".. module .." Command:".. command)
if not player:isAdmin() then return end
    if module ~= "ZDItemGiver" or command ~= "GetPlayers" then return end
    
    local thePlayers = {}
    local allKnown = getWorld():getAllKnownPlayers()
    
    for i = 0, allKnown:size() - 1 do
        local p = allKnown:get(i)
        if p then
            table.insert(thePlayers, {
                name = p:getFullName(),
                username = p:getUsername(),
                online = p:isAsleep() == false -- Note: isAsleep check is for activity status
            })
        end
    end
    
    -- Send the flattened Lua table to the requesting client
    sendServerCommand(player, "ZDItemGiver", "sendingPlayers", thePlayers)
end
Events.OnClientCommand.Add(onClientCommand_ItemGiver)```

server

[raven epoch]

does debug print?

[zealous maple]

just read that local should not be here local function onClientCommand_ItemGiver(module, command, player, args)

my computer died so i have to restart server one 1

[bronze yoke]

that won't change anything

[zealous maple]

one min

it shouldnt becuse i only use it here anyway

[30-12-25 19:00:05.733] LOG : General , 1767117605733> 0> DEBUG: SERVER FILE IS LOADED.

but not print("Module:".. module .." Command:".. command)

[raven epoch]

maybe its because of variable naming?

change module to smth like module2

cus my ide colors the module for some reason

[zealous maple]

humm ill try

local function onClientCommand_ItemGiver(module2, command, player, args)
print("Module:".. module2 .." Command:".. command)

[raven epoch]

you are doing sendclientcommand yes?

[zealous maple]

yes to the server from client and sendserver from server to client

[raven epoch]

u sure the sendclientcommand part is running

[zealous maple]

self:requestAllPlayers() this is called in :createChildren() maybe put in new isteed and remove self. then it should be called when im creating the window.

[worthy wharf]

i never did it before, i just opened one mod that i knew had reference and told you

you can try:

• find any other mod that has 2+ dependencies, subscribe and peek
• test using comma and colon

[fleet bridge]

sendClientCommand(getPlayer(),"ZDItemGiver", "GetPlayers", nil)

any stack trace errors on server when you send client command?

[buoyant violet]

Learned this the hard way

I reverted the requirement

If someone wants RPM then they can add the mod otherwise will work as before

[raven epoch]

how do i damage objects?

i tried Object:Damage but im not sure if it wors

works

[small osprey]

Mehe I like the description btw.

[small osprey]

Very nice Zeta. Can I ping or PM you later when I release something "not related but tangential"?

[willow tulip]

Generally PZ uses ;

[broken briar]

kinda been wondering if i could possibly make an unofficial updated version of this mod
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3507117617&searchtext=indiana

[broken briar]

sigh..

[bright fog]

Just ask him

[raven epoch]

does anyone know why isoplayers are invisible in b42?

[bright fog]

Uh ?

[raven epoch]

they exist

i can hear sounds

but no character

[brave bone]

How do we check all online players in a dedicated server?

I was using isoplayer.getplayers() but it seems it only see me (local) it doesnt see the whole players in the server.

TIA 😊

[true nova]

getOnlinePlayers() returns an arraylist of player objects

[brave bone]

Thank you. o7

[winter bolt]

just added a new script that finds any vanilla items used in your outfits and then saves them to a new file so you can paste them into your mods fileguidtable
https://github.com/LazySpongie/OutfitXMLConverter

[willow tulip]

do note, IIRC on client, it only returns players the player has encountered, to prevent hackers from teleporting around the map and killing everyone on a server.

(on b42)

So if you need it on the client side, you'll have to make a client-server packet system to ask the server whatever info you needed about the connected players

[knotty saffron]

I'm trying to make a simple mod, but the solution I came up with involves saving some coordinates persistently on the client (for single player) or on the server (for multiplayer). I tried some solutions like a "local FILE = 'coords.txt'" but it doesn't seem to work.

[winter bolt]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_data

[knotty saffron]

thanks, i missed that gonna give it a try