mod_development

[raven epoch]

instantly spawns 4 soldiers on the nearest door

my npcs have a weird delay

let me take vid

or it might be because im using ticks

havent migrated those to servertime yet

i switch to server time and performance tanks??

nvm

[kindred walrus]

does anyone know if the lightswitch -> lamp system is modifiable?

for example, making lamps that need batteries?

[raven epoch]

so i uploaded a mod to workshop

but now i cant see the original one on me pc

what do

only workshop one i see

[sour wave]

@weak needle

[weak needle]

I can’t wait

[sour wave]

It's been a learning process, that's for sure.

Most everythings handled clientside and not physically currently, outside storing and showing the information

Now I'm stepping into making the actual grave appear in game.

And be interactable.

I plan to also make a sandbox option that allows you to define how many bodies per chunk you want, defaulting to 3.

[modern veldt]

is there a list on the wiki about current existing ui/windows types in the game?

[dark salmon]

I tried and still crash the reason is "Unknown recipe param", my item name is correct and exist but idk how to correct this
I have this:

module Base {

    craftRecipe RollSativaJoint_Debug
    {
        timedAction = Making,
        time = 60,
        Tags = InHandCraft,
        category = ZazaMod,
        inputs
        {
            item 1 Base.SativaBud_Debug,         
            item 1 tags[base:rollingpaper],
        }
        outputs
        {
            item 1 Base.SativaJoint_Debug,      
        }
    }
}

[quasi kernel]

Do you have to specify tags still? I forget

[dark salmon]

I'll check this

[quasi kernel]

As in like, do you have to do tags[base:rollingpaper] or can you just do the base:rollingpaper thing

That's my first guess

[dark salmon]

In game files it was like that so i don't thinks this is a problem

[quasi kernel]

I see, hm..

[dark salmon]

in recipes_tobacco.txt

[quasi kernel]

Did you define that tag?

If the tag is invalid it's probably mad at that

[dark salmon]

nope i didn't, i wanted to use all items from the game with this tag

not custom item just original items

[quasi kernel]

Oh so it's vanilla

Heck

How strange..

Do you have the custom items defined under Base or

If not it's probably failing to find the items for input

(The recipe can be under Base, the items don't have to be.)

Well, "don't have to be", still has to include base or whatever

[dark salmon]

yep i changed everything under Base like this:

module Base {...}

Here my console.txt if you want to dig the problem

or if you want the exact error:

ERROR: General      f:0, t:1766613981940> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown
    java.lang.Exception: unknown recipe param: Base.SativaBud_Debug at InputScript.Load(InputScript.java:822).
    Stack trace:
        zombie.scripting.entity.components.crafting.InputScript.Load(InputScript.java:822)
        zombie.scripting.entity.components.crafting.InputScript.Load(InputScript.java:604)
        zombie.scripting.entity.components.crafting.CraftRecipe.LoadIO(CraftRecipe.java:599)
        zombie.scripting.entity.components.crafting.CraftRecipe.Load(CraftRecipe.java:523)
        zombie.scripting.entity.components.crafting.CraftRecipe.Load(CraftRecipe.java:370)
        zombie.scripting.ScriptBucket.LoadScripts(ScriptBucket.java:258)
        zombie.scripting.ScriptBucketCollection.LoadScripts(ScriptBucketCollection.java:125)
        zombie.scripting.ScriptManager.loadScripts(ScriptManager.java:1642)
        zombie.scripting.ScriptManager.Load(ScriptManager.java:1577)
        zombie.GameWindow.initShared(GameWindow.java:217)
        zombie.GameWindow.init(GameWindow.java:1179)
        zombie.GameWindow.mainThreadInit(GameWindow.java:690)
        zombie.GameWindow.mainThreadStart(GameWindow.java:560)
        zombie.MainThread.mainLoop(MainThread.java:58)
        java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

Idk why

[quasi kernel]

It doesn't know what the Base.SativaBug_Debug is

That's what it's getting mad at

Did you define the item under a different module?

If so, use that module instead of Base.

(Not for the craftrecipe holder, just for the item name.)

MyModuleName.SativaBud_Debug

[dark salmon]

i defined this item in Base look:

module Base {
    /*imports {
        Base
    }*/

    /**************** DEBUG ****************/
    item SativaBud_Debug
    {
        DisplayName = Sativa flower DEBUG,
        DisplayCategory = ZazaMod,
        Tooltip = Tooltip_NLK_ReducePanic,
        ItemType = base:food,
        FoodItemType = Vegetables,
        Weight = 0.1,
        Icon = SunflowerHead,
        WorldStaticModel = SunflowerHead,
        StaticModel = SunflowerHead,
        StressChange = -15,
        UnhappyChange = -40,
        BoredomChange = -20,
        ReducePanic = 30,
        DaysFresh = 6,
        DaysTotallyRotten = 8,
        HungerChange = -1.0,
        ThirstChange = 4.0,
        /*Tags = nlk:cannabis_bud,*/
    }
    

    item SativaJoint_Debug
    {
        DisplayName = Sativa joint DEBUG,
        DisplayCategory = ZazaMod,
        Type = base:food,
        Weight = 0.01,
        Icon = CigaretteRolled,
        CantBeFrozen = true,
        CustomContextMenu = Smoke,
        EatItemType = Cigarettes,
        OnEat = RecipeCodeOnEat.consumeNicotine,
        RequireInHandOrInventory = Base.CandleLit/Base.Matches/Base.Matchbox/Base.LighterDisposable/Base.Lighter/Base.LighterBBQ/Base.Lighter_Battery,
        HungerChange = 0.0,
        StressChange = -4,
        StaticModel = CigaretteRolled_Lit,
        WorldStaticModel = CigaretteRolled,
        /*CustomEatSound = ,*/
        Eattime = 460,
        FoodSicknessChange = 14,
        InverseCoughProbability = 10,
        InverseCoughProbabilitySmoker = 2,
        Tags = base:useall;base:smokable,/*nlk:cannabis_joint,*/
    }


    /**************** DEBUG ****************/
}

Like i said, to be sure i changed every module NLK to Base

[quasi kernel]

..how weird.

[dark salmon]

yea..

[quasi kernel]

Maybe there's something wrong with the item def.

[dark salmon]

I just copied an item in game files to be sure it worked before the recipe thing

i think the recipe system is broken or idk

[quasi kernel]

The recipe system was working fine for someone else I was helping the other day, something is up with the script.

The issue is the scripts aren't typically the best at telling you what's wrong

[dark salmon]

you know what

i put in comments the recipe and the game doesn't crash anymore..

it is very weird

does in 42.13.1 the recipe systeme changed?

[quasi kernel]

The recipe system I think was mostly unchanged(?)

If unsure, just test with individual components.

[dark salmon]

yes i'll try it now

[quasi kernel]

Copy a vanilla recipe and just keep regular items, then try modded items and see if it does the same error.

[quasi kernel]

(Probably name it something different though so there's no conflicts)

[dark salmon]

okay renamed vanilla recipe with regular items works and with modded items works too...

i think something messed up in my first recipe

[sour wave]

b42.13 changed the way recipes and such were registered.

[dark salmon]

oh okay? did you have an example for me please?

[sour wave]

I'm not sure, if you look at the website, it has an example mod that shows the new registration system in use

[dark salmon]

okay i check this out

in the indie stone forums or pz wiki modding?

[sour wave]

Indy stone, its in the updates forum

[dark salmon]

i didn't found it, if you have a link

[sour wave]

Ill see if I can find it

[dark salmon]

okay thx

@quasi kernel thanks for trying helping me i found a solution that is very weird

[quasi kernel]

No worries! What'd ya do?

[dark salmon]

i put the item name in [] and it works

module Base
{
    craftRecipe RolledSativaJoint
    {
        timedAction = Making,
        time = 60,
        Tags = InHandCraft,
        inputs
        {
            item 1 [NLK.SativaBud_Debug] mode:destroy,
            item 1 tags[base:rollingpaper],
        }
        outputs
        {
            item 1 NLK.SativaJoint_Debug,
        }
    }
}

i also changed my others module name from Base to NLK like it was originally

Did you know how to rename the recipe name? the text is RolledSativaJoint but i want with spaces like this Rolled Sativa Joint

I found it, in recipes_en.txt

[quasi kernel]

Oop, yeah that's it

Sorry I got distracted

[dark salmon]

no problem, it's a little bit difficult for modding in PZ for the first time but it's very cool when all works

[quasi kernel]

Yeye! You'll pick up more little bits of knowledge as you go

[dark salmon]

Yeah, for sure I'm literally doing this for a friend who asked me for a cannabis mod 🤡

[quasi kernel]

Oo!! I hope your friend likes your mod!

[unique harbor]

So I was trying to find out why my nested containers mod doesn't work in Multiplayer and it seems it has to do with a ItemTransactionPacket in the ISInventoryTransferAction:new function?
I'm kinda clueless now, does anyone had a similiar issue?

So basically I try to move the nails into the green backpack and I get a infinite action bar.
I traced it down to the action which fails because it get's a maxTime of -1

I'm not modifying the item move function itself, just adding container buttons and I have no idea what to do with that information.

I just overwrote the original function and added some debug prints to figure out where it actually fails.

[unique harbor]

I'm guessing it's because the mod files are inside lua/client so I'm only modifying the container buttons on the clientside I guess?
I read the API for Inventory Items.pdf but mate... no Idea what they want from me.

[bright fog]

Unsure on your exact issue, but the UIs are fully client side so being in the client folder makes the most sense

[unique harbor]

Yeah but I think I'm currently modifying self.backpacks on the clientside so the server doesn't see the backpacks I added there and can't handle the item transfer...

Such a headache, guess will just try to get it working somehow and hope it doesn't break again.

[fleet bridge]

Isn't this a shared timed action now?

[unique harbor]

Yeah I think the same but I'm just confused rn because I'm not doing anything with actions itself.
But I do modify the clientside inventory buttons which get used by the server in the actions so it's a indirect issue with that?

[fleet bridge]

If you've overwritten it in client then server won't be able to do anything

It needs to be in shared

(or server)

[unique harbor]

Yeah and that's what I have to adjust because simply making it shared breaks my modOptions somehow...

I bet there will be more issues on the way

[fleet bridge]

I am not sure why that would be, unless shared loads after mod options stuff?

[unique harbor]

Well I'll just give it a try but nothing has been easy modding for this game

Not even sure how PZAPI.ModOptions works on the serverside

[bronze yoke]

it doesn't

mod options are client options, it's not loaded on the server at all

[unique harbor]

Yeah thought so... so I can also modify the whole mod since I have a few options there for the client visuals inside the code.

[bright fog]

Mod options are useful for the server

Any options which should affect every clients should use sandbox options

[unique harbor]

Yeah but it's a personalized setting for each client, that will be fun to do serverside.

local depth = 0
local function handleItemContainer( inventoryPage, itemContainer )
    if depth >= nestedOptions["nestedDepth"] then return end
    depth = depth + 1

    local inventory = itemContainer:getInventory()
    local items = inventory:getItems()

    for i = 0, items:size()-1 do
        local item = items:get(i)
        repeat
            if not item:IsInventoryContainer() then break end

            addItemContainerButton( inventoryPage, itemContainer, item )
            handleItemContainer( inventoryPage, item )
        until true
    end
end

I'm adding container buttons based on the users settings, which means I have to somehow let the server know the setting of the player so that the server can also load / add those containers...

Because every user has their own wish of how deep the containers nest

Simple example:
I'm adding the green backpack button on the right, so it's in inventoryPage.backpacks for the client, but the server doesn't have that rn, that's why the transfer fails.

I'll just remove the multiplayer buttons, problem solved.

[shy mantle]

There's this weird interaction between setting air tiles to solid, having other clients walk over them, and "walk to" combined. For some reason, characters that are not from the client that sets tiles to solid will disappear while on it, however, if you hover your "walk to" square over that set square, the player will come back and everything about that square will be treated as if you did actually set it to solid. I'm guessing because this would flag the solid tile as TreatAsSolidFloor as well? Honestly very confused by how that even happens and why they're different.

[bright fog]

I see

Well simply have users send their settings on option changes

You can do that, you can detect when your mod options change

Check out the wiki page for mod options

[bronze yoke]

why does the server even have the concept of inventory pages? something doesn't sound right there

[bright fog]

Then with a simple command send you can load the current options

[bright fog]

I think it's just knowledge about which containers are in range ?

[unique harbor]

Actually not sure how the server handles the player inventory rn or which event I'm supposed to use now since I used OnRefreshInventoryWindowContainers which is a clientside event.

Would need a serverside event which triggers when the inventory of a player changes.

[bronze yoke]

what exactly do you need to do on the server that requires the player's mod options?

[silent zealot]

Does the PDF they released "API for Inventory Items" help? Section 5, "Synchronisation of the creation, deletion and modification of items and objects"

[bronze yoke]

most likely you just need to allow the transfers, only the client should care about what items it can see and try to transfer

you don't even need to know the player's depth limit, you just have to disable the check for being inside a container entirely (assuming there is one), since they could always just set the setting higher it's not a security risk

[silent zealot]

I'd assume you just do the move on the client and then use these:

Odds are good the server doesn't care about containers being nested or anything, it just needs to know which container to add/remove the item from.

[bronze yoke]

the client can't call these, there would be no security at all and the entire thing would be pointless 😅

the server moves items and then sends the move, the client just asks it to

[silent zealot]

Actually I got it backwards - those commands are for the server sending the change to clients. I think. I'm still very new to multiplayer modding.

[bright fog]

Yes what albion said

[silent zealot]

I was typing as he she said that! 😛

[bright fog]

she

[unique harbor]

Yeah but from my understanding the server also needs the same backpack buttons as stupid as it may sound.
When I take a look at the action which fails it uses self.backpacks ( which basically contains the buttons / containers I also add )

But I don't know the server side code

[bright fog]

But yea the server knows all, the client doesn't now jackshit

[bright fog]

That runs only client side actually

perform runs only client side

Complete runs server side only

SP both are ran

[unique harbor]

well there's no complete inside of that file

Where can I see the server code?

[bright fog]

There isn't

[unique harbor]

Awesome

[bronze yoke]

yeah i'm not really sure how the inventory transfer action works right now

it's not using the new network model

[bright fog]

That timed action is extremely weird

It's abnormal

Tbf that timed action is duct tape on duct tape

[unique harbor]

So I'm supposed to write code for a action which you can't understand, because there's no serverside code you can look into

[bright fog]

It's shit going everywhere when you study it lmao

[bronze yoke]

yeah i've never looked too close at it even in older versions because it seems to be extremely complex and unique among timed actions

[bright fog]

There's commands being sent I believe

[silent zealot]

We don't mod Zomboid because it's a nice clean codebase that is easy to work with....

[unique harbor]

Yeah I noticed that the first time I tried to

[bright fog]

That one is particularly shit tho lol

It doesn't follow the classic code of PZ and it' sone of the finest spaghetti you can find in PZ lmao

[bronze yoke]

it looks like createItemTransaction is probably doing the actual transfer

[bright fog]

No joke it's quite the spaghetti timed action 😅

[silent zealot]

We should have a little community competition for worst bits of code in Zomboid. Moving inventory items around is a good contender, I remember trying to make sense of it well enough to bypass weight restrictions and... ugh.

Not helped by weird hard coded limits in Java... that are enforced by lua and ignored by java.

[bright fog]

Tbf, that timed action is hard to organize I feel like

It's a lot of logic of don't do that in X Y Z condition and do that in I J K condition

The spaghetti comes from that

[unique harbor]

Yeah seems so but I also can't find a definition for that so it's probably java in the background or something...

[bronze yoke]

it's java yeah

[bright fog]

Check the Java decompile

[unique harbor]

Yeah will have to do that, first need to decompile the new version..
never needed it and done it like once

[silent zealot]

Is Steam workshop down for everyone, or does it just hate me?

[silent zealot]

It's super easy with the ZomboidDecompiler - get the latest version, run the .bat file, a few minutes later you have the decompiled source.

[simple helm]

Figured for the end of 2025 I would post this here letting you know it working with the help of another dev for the coding

[silent zealot]

I thought Street Smarts would be a big pain to update but in the end all I had to do was change one Z to z becasue a private java field I was accessing was renamed.

[unique harbor]

Yeah done it, but hasn't helped that much yet, trying to use debug logs now since they're also being used in that file but I cant read the logs...

Am I supposed to get two other ultrawides so I can stretch it or is there another way?

[silent zealot]

look in console.txt

or might have a different name if it's from the server... but in single player everything on that lua console is also in console.txt

[unique harbor]

where is that file? user folder?

[silent zealot]

c:\users\<your username\Zomboid\

[unique harbor]

Alright thx

I get that information with the message that it timed out

That's a transfer that worked.

[frail violet]

I'm trying to update my mod to b42, but am having no luck especially since I chose the worst time to do this (steam is down?). Can anyone break the file structure changes down for me? The mod is showing in b42 mod selection window, but no clothing items are visible and the throw an error when selected in character creation.

[silent zealot]

From B41 to B42?

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_structure#Build_42

The very short version is you need a 42 folder and a common folder in your mod. You can leave common empty, but it must exist.

If you want to support multiple versions of B42 you can have more specific folders and move things like images to common... but everything in 42/common is empty is a good way to get started.

[frail violet]

Ok, so I'm assuming I would copy the original contents of the mod over to the b42 folder. While the mod is selectable in b42 now, it seems like there must be more work to be done.

[silent zealot]

Almost certainly, but it depends on what the mod actually does.

Items and recipies need to be rewritten using the new format (NOTE: B42.13 makes more changes to these, so compare to vanilla instead of relying on tutorials)

Code stuff... depends what it does, could be anything to "works with a minor fix to name" to "complete rewrite needed"

[silent zealot]

I just managed to get the muzzle flash & bullet origin working properly for my guns. It's a mess! I think the new-ish muzzle flash code is exposing issues where things were not perfectly set up that previously were not obvious.

This tutorial is still accurate on the needed scale/rotation/orientation needed in blender before exporting to .fbx, and if you don't get this perfect you can end up with gun attachments working and muzzleflash being wrong: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3060255898

The muzzle attachment point should look something like

        attachment muzzle
        {
            offset = 0.0000 0.1368 -0.0246,
            rotate = -90.0000 0.0000 0.0000,
        }

with a -90° rotation on X, then translate it to the right point. And hope that no-one is relying on the muzzle attachment point to stick attachments on your weapon because now those won't point in the proper direction.

Finally you need MuzzleFlashModelKey in the item script. Then it all mostly lines up... even the vanilla guns don't quite match if you look close.

[frail violet]

Ok great. Thank you for the help.

[merry grove]

Well my mod broke, found out its becuse now I need to add prefix forageSystem to everything
Also do you guys know a good way of testing spawns outside of just wandering for hours among the zones?

[open fossil]

Enable LootZed in debug mode, right click on a container that should have distributions for your item set up, and it should show you the probabilities.

[merry grove]

Ah I mean for forging forging not loots

[grizzled fable]

hi, please someone can tell how to add forage items ingame with 42.13, old way seems not to work ty

[merry grove]

Ah mentioned it right above, you need to add a prexif forageSystem.
forageSystem.addItemDef("Mulberry", Mulberry);
And also you need to add name before the definition

spawnFuncs = { forageSystem.doWildFoodSpawn, forageSystem.doRandomAgeSpawn},
altWorldTexture = forageSystem.worldSprites.smallTrees,
itemSizeModifier = 1.5,

This solved my errors issue

Still have a issue with checking it ACTUALLY spawns

[pliant pelican]

Hey Guys, Im new to coding and im trying to make a simple mod food mod. I did alot of research and still actively learning as i go and reading. Im currently stuck at my LUA function not sure if this is whats causing infinite errors when trying to even click on the item in the crafting menu. this is my Lua Function:

[merry grove]

Aaaand the error?

[pliant pelican]

sending now

I asked another mod creator for advice and they told me to make a registries.lua

[pliant pelican]

sent the error, im just stuck on what im doing wrong to cause Vanilla functions to break

hold on i think i left out the other errors

[merry grove]

One thing I see you calling the in game stuff to then call your own thing

function Recipe.OnCreate.JKGiveDriedMeat(craftRecipeData, character)
I feel this is the problem

[pliant pelican]

What would I change this to?

[merry grove]

One second but I feel this should be a Event

[pliant pelican]

i can send my craftRecipes and items files, they are really short just 4 items lol. Starting small so i can learn and work my way up

[merry grove]

What exactly you want to do with this ? I know give random amount but for what

[pliant pelican]

So I created an Item aka DriedMeatPackage which then can be opened to randomly give one of the 3 Dried Meats

pretty basic just trying to learn

the recipes work and but the one recipe that calls the LUA function just causing mayhem

[pliant pelican]

its ony the one recipe that breaks, i can post a video ingame

[merry grove]

If I understand this right you want to give one of 3 random options?

[pliant pelican]

yeah

[sonic needle]

PTSD Simulator Tier audio.

[merry grove]

java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Default namespace 'base:base.jkdriedchicken' is not allowed!

Somethings off here

Oh I see

[merry grove]

You didn't put them as strings

Yeah they suppose to be in like that

You put them as refrences to nothing

[pliant pelican]

what strings would I put?

[merry grove]

Just put "
character:getInventory():AddItem("Base.JKDriedSteak");
sendAddItemToContainer(character:getInventory(), "Base.JKDriedSteak");

[pliant pelican]

should I keep or remove the registries.lua too?

[merry grove]

No clue never used that

It has to be either a string like I posted or
instanceItem("Base.JKDriedSteak")

From what I am reading in the docs

[pliant pelican]

function Recipe.OnCreate.JKGiveDriedMeat(craftRecipeData, character)
local meatChance = ZombRand(1,4);
if meatChance==1 then
character:getInventory():AddItem("Base.JKDriedSteak");
sendAddItemToContainer(character:getInventory(), "Base.JKDriedSteak");
elseif meatChance==2 then
character:getInventory():AddItem("Base.JKDriedChicken");
sendAddItemToContainer(character:getInventory(), "Base.JKDriedChicken");
elseif meatChance==3 then
character:getInventory():AddItem("Base.JKDriedPorkChop");
sendAddItemToContainer(character:getInventory(), "Base.JKDriedPorkChop");
end
end

[merry grove]

Yea try that if not try doing
local idstake = instanceItem("Base.JKDriedSteak"
character:getInventory():AddItem(idstake );
sendAddItemToContainer(character:getInventory(), idstake);

[silent zealot]

you need to use a : not a . between the namespace and tag name.

[merry grove]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/OnCreate_(craftRecipe)
Here I see it should is instance

local lid = instanceItem("Base.JarLid");
local mData = jar:getModData()
local cond = mData.LidCondition or 9
lid:setCondition(cond)
character:getInventory():AddItem(lid);
sendAddItemToContainer(character:getInventory(), lid);

[silent zealot]

And if you want to make use of the tag in lua later assign it to a global variable:

JKITEM_MEATPACK = ItemTag.register("jk:driedmeatpackage")

I don't know if you have to use all lowercase, but the examples did so I have stuck with that.

[sonic needle]

yeah same. i kept the same logic for mine when it worked,

no changes if it works, means no issues ever

WAR's M9A4

[silent zealot]

Until something changes! Street Smart's B42.13 update consisted of changing one Z to a z.

[silent zealot]

Too pretty for zomboid!

[sonic needle]

they all Are

[merry grove]

I know it nuked the forging system for me

Still don't know if you can find my modded fruits

At least I killed all the errors

Pretty sure this is the correct way of registering stuff now?

[hidden compass]

How should I synchronize the Global ModData set on the client side?
ModData.transmit(“xxxxxx”) did not synchronize it.

[bright fog]

Manually

[quasi kernel]

My first guess is you'd probably have to copy the table data manually-

Yeah

Global mod data in particular doesn't feel like the sort of thing to have a built-in transmit simply because it's global.

The rest are usually hooked to an object.

[bright fog]

No the problem is it's massive

Global mod data tends to have a lot of data

[quasi kernel]

Oh, it does?

[bright fog]

Not necessarily

But this tends to be the kind of mod data with a lot of data stored by modders

[quasi kernel]

I mean, couldn't you apply that same logic to any object with mod data?

[pliant pelican]

Would i have to declare 3 different instanceItem then run the ZombRand ?

[bright fog]

And it was already bad practice to try to use transmit because it wouldn't work properly

[bright fog]

Object mod data tends to be lighter

[quasi kernel]

True, though certainly more plentiful.

[bright fog]

But transmit for global oftened bugged out and a lot of data wasn't getting transmitted

[merry grove]

yea for each item

[bright fog]

But it's one by one

One object only gets its data synced

[quasi kernel]

Hm, interesting. I guess doing it manually you could narrow it down to what needs to be sent anyways.

[quasi kernel]

True..

[bright fog]

Exactly

Sending the whole table is costly for no reasons

You never need to sync the whole thing

[quasi kernel]

I think the horror mod I'm working on will be the first time I use global mod data actually lol

[bright fog]

And in fact, data should systematically be stored in the server for the most part now

[quasi kernel]

I've used object mod data every other time

Just to check, global mod data exists to be saved between sessions, correct?

Because otherwise I don't see the difference between using it and just storing stuff in modules like I do-

[pliant pelican]

function Recipe.OnCreate.JKGiveDriedMeat(craftRecipeData, character)
local DriedSteak = instanceItem("Base.JKDriedSteak")
local DriedChicken = instanceItem("Base.JKDriedChicken")
local DriedPorkChop = instanceItem("Base.JKDriedPorkChop")
local meatChance = ZombRand(1,4);
if meatChance==1 then
character:getInventory():AddItem(DriedSteak);
sendAddItemToContainer(character:getInventory(), DriedSteak);
elseif meatChance==2 then
character:getInventory():AddItem(DriedChicken);
sendAddItemToContainer(character:getInventory(), DriedChicken);
elseif meatChance==3 then
character:getInventory():AddItem(DriedPorkChop);
sendAddItemToContainer(character:getInventory(), DriedPorkChop);
end
end

like this right?

[bright fog]

It's persistent while local lua tables aren't

[quasi kernel]

Okay then yeah, to save stuff

I dont typically have a need to save much so

I would've used it to save checked chunks in my last mod, but I couldn't check chunks anyways on the server, not reliably anyways.

[merry grove]

yee

[bright fog]

How so ?

[quasi kernel]

Cells didn't exist, couldn't reliably get adjacent chunks because of that.

Well, they existed, but were empty.

I ended up using a tile-based solution instead.

[hidden compass]

Thanks, I'll check server/client source.

[pliant pelican]

sadly same thing still happens like in the video i sent

not sure whats wrong

[merry grove]

Send the new error log

[merry grove]

base:base.jkdriedporkchop huh?

[pliant pelican]

im gonna remove the registry lua and see if it changes

[pliant pelican]

this is with the registries.lua removed

same thing

[merry grove]

base:jkdriedsteak
Where did you name stuff like it?

Also did you reload your mod

[pliant pelican]

Yes I in main menu reset LUA

[merry grove]

Try maybe not adding to the base then

[pliant pelican]

It was in registries.lua but I removed that file and reset LUA ran again same issue

All those Vanilla lines break

[merry grove]

module MattSimpleAddons
{
imports
{
Base
}

Try this

[pliant pelican]

Then remove the crafting UI

[merry grove]

For item def

[pliant pelican]

Okay will try

[merry grove]

Just name it your way don't copy mine <w> I use it to keep track my mods

[merry grove]

Ah do not put forageSystem.addItemDef("Mulberry", Mulberry);
Put forageSystem.addItemDef(Mulberry, Mulberry);
Just tested and its suppose to be like this apparently.

uuuugh finally it woooorks

I can find them in the wild

alright, perfect my mod is working agin

[silent zealot]

This! You can can even see the error message about not putting registry stuff into base.

You can still put items into Base, but any tags/traits/whatever that you add using the registry have to use a different namespace

[pliant pelican]

i removed the registries.lua and get this error

[silent zealot]

Your mod adds items and recipes, correct?

I'd start by removing all recipes and justt getting the items working. Compare the item scripts to the vanilla 42.13 items to make sure you have the fields correct.

Then once that works (i.e.: you can start the game without issues and use the debug menu to spawn your items) work on the recipies.

You may not need a registries.lua, if you are not registering any new tags/etc.

[pliant pelican]

items work

and other recipes work just not the unpackage one

[silent zealot]

Post the recipe script

Also, if it's using an OnCreate function see if that is the cause by getting rid of it... though the error makes me thing it's something in the recipe itself breaking the UI

[pliant pelican]

module Base
{
imports
{
Base
}

craftRecipe OpenDriedMeatPackage
{
    timedAction = PackingBox_Small,
    Icon = JKDriedMeatPackage,
    NeedToBeLearn = false,
    Tags = AnySurfaceCraft,
    Time = 60,
  
    inputs
    {
        item 1 [Base.JKDriedMeatPackage]
    }
    outputs
    {

    }

    OnCreate = craftRecipe.OnCreate.JKGiveDriedMeat,

}

craftRecipe RehydrateSteak
{
   Time = 100,
   ToolTip = Rehydrate meat,
   Tags = RickClickOnly;InHandCraft;Cooking,
   SkillRequired = Cooking:2,
   xpAward = Cooking:3,
   AllowBatchCraft = true,
   
   inputs
   {
        item 1 [Base.JKDriedSteak],
        item 1 [*],
        -fluid 1.0 [Water],
   }
   outputs
   {
   item 1 Base.Steak,
   }
        
}

craftRecipe RehydrateChicken
{
   Time = 100,
   ToolTip = Rehydrate meat,
   Tags = RickClickOnly;InHandCraft;Cooking,
   SkillRequired = Cooking:2,
   xpAward = Cooking:3,
   AllowBatchCraft = true,
   
   inputs
   {
        item 1 [Base.JKDriedChicken],
        item 1 [*],
        -fluid 1.0 [Water],
   }
   outputs
   {
   item 1 Base.Chicken,
   }
        
}

craftRecipe RehydratePorkChop
{
   Time = 100,
   ToolTip = Rehydrate meat,
   Tags = RickClickOnly;InHandCraft;Cooking,
   SkillRequired = Cooking:2,
   xpAward = Cooking:3,
   AllowBatchCraft = true,
   
   inputs
   {
        item 1 [Base.JKDriedPorkChop],
        item 1 [*],
        -fluid 1.0 [Water],
   }
   outputs
   {
   item 1 Base.PorkChop,
   }
        
}

}

[silent zealot]

I think you need an output

[pliant pelican]

Since i couldnt find anything anywhere ChatGPT assumes the game expecting a table onCreate and thats whats breaking it

[silent zealot]

STOP! Do not trust ChatGPT

[pliant pelican]

I know lol

i was like fuck it see what it says

[silent zealot]

1. it's always been terrible at anything Zomboid Specific 2) even if it wasn't, it hasn't been trained on recent changes.

try making the output something like a piece of Base.JKDriedChicken

in case it's unhappy because the output section is empty (presumably because it will get populated with the OnCreate)

although empty output is legal:

[sonic needle]

im framing that one

[pliant pelican]

Still crashes even with an output

[silent zealot]

What about without the OnCreate?

[unique harbor]

Maybe stupid question but when does that trigger?
if not server and not client

it's a shared lua file

[silent zealot]

Not a stupid question at all... and I can't remember the answer, but I do remember isServer and isClient not acting like you'd expect them to.

[unique harbor]

bruh alright thx

[pliant pelican]

same errors without oncreate

[pliant pelican]

these are my items and recipes, i must be doing something wrong

i removed oncreate and left put 1 item in the output just to test and still crashes. Also deleted the lua file to since i removed oncreate

[bright fog]

OnLoadSquare event

Access squares

And I assume you could access chunks like that

Or anyway you can do some simple math to check the squares of the chunk

And whatever you need to do

[silent zealot]

So it's either something in that recipe, or something in one of the items referenced in that recipe since you don't have issues without that one recipe. Except the recipe didn't have any obvious issues.

One idea to isolate the issue; make the problem recipe a copy of another recipe, confirm that works, then change it one line at a time into the recipe you want and see exactly where it breaks

[merry grove]

No you are not module base, rename it, don't be Base

try
module JKMods

and replace any mention to base next to your items with it

same with items try to have your own module instead of adding to the Base

[pliant pelican]

This good?

[merry grove]

Ye test it alos change them in the Lua file

[pliant pelican]

i got rid of the lua files

tryna test the one recipe to get it working but idk its broken

[merry grove]

What is the error

[pliant pelican]

STACK TRACE

function: restoreJoypadState -- file: ISPanelJoypad.lua line # 344 | Vanilla
function: calculateLayout -- file: ISWidgetIngredientsInputs.lua line # 198 | Vanilla
function: calculateLayout -- file: ISTableLayout.lua line # 437 | Vanilla
function: calculateLayout -- file: ISTableLayout.lua line # 103 | Vanilla
function: calculateLayout -- file: ISCraftRecipePanel.lua line # 109 | Vanilla
function: calculateLayout -- file: ISTableLayout.lua line # 437 | Vanilla
function: calculateLayout -- file: ISTableLayout.lua line # 103 | Vanilla
function: calculateLayout -- file: ISHandCraftPanel.lua line # 112 | Vanilla
function: calculateLayout -- file: ISHandcraftWindow.lua line # 109 | Vanilla
function: prerender -- file: ISHandcraftWindow.lua line # 159 | Vanilla.
[25-12-25 08:10:37.640] LOG : General f:39775, t:1766668237640> __len not defined for operand.
[25-12-25 08:10:37.640] ERROR: General f:39775, t:1766668237640> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown
java.lang.RuntimeException: __len not defined for operand at KahluaUtil.fail(KahluaUtil.java:99).
Stack trace:
se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaUtil.fail(KahluaUtil.java:99)
se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaUtil.luaAssert(KahluaUtil.java:89)
se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.luaMainloop(KahluaThread.java:542)
se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.call(KahluaThread.java:167)
se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.pcall(KahluaThread.java:1756)
se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.pcallvoid(KahluaThread.java:1600)
se.krka.kahlua.integration.LuaCaller.pcallvoid(LuaCaller.java:35)
zombie.ui.UIElement.render(UIElement.java:1668)
zombie.ui.UIManager.render(UIManager.java:366)
zombie.gameStates.IngameState.renderFrameUI(IngameState.java:1189)
zombie.gameStates.IngameState.renderframeui(IngameState.java:1178)
zombie.gameStates.IngameState.renderInternal(IngameState.java:1290)
zombie.gameStates.IngameState.render(IngameState.java:1248)
zombie.gameStates.GameStateMachine.render(GameStateMachine.java:24)
zombie.GameWindow.renderInternal(GameWindow.java:460)
zombie.GameWindow.frameStep(GameWindow.java:846)
zombie.GameWindow.mainThreadStep(GameWindow.java:597)
zombie.MainThread.mainLoop(MainThread.java:68)
java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
.

its breaking Vanilla somehow

[merry grove]

you right nwo have only the two files yes?

the items + recipies?

[pliant pelican]

yup

i could join a vc and share screen to show my file and folders

could len not defined for operand be saying something is coing up nil like i forget to add a value to something that i shoul've?

[merry grove]

Try thoes

[modern veldt]

Guys, how can I achieve item drop on a box

like in the hotbar mechanics

[pliant pelican]

screen goes blank now on enabling mod

[merry grove]

Try this

[pliant pelican]

mod loaded but

.
[25-12-25 08:47:48.259] ERROR: General f:3605, t:1766670468259> KahluaThread.flushErrorMessage > dumping Lua stack trace

STACK TRACE

function: restoreJoypadState -- file: ISPanelJoypad.lua line # 344 | Vanilla
function: calculateLayout -- file: ISWidgetIngredientsInputs.lua line # 198 | Vanilla
function: calculateLayout -- file: ISTableLayout.lua line # 437 | Vanilla
function: calculateLayout -- file: ISTableLayout.lua line # 103 | Vanilla
function: calculateLayout -- file: ISCraftRecipePanel.lua line # 109 | Vanilla
function: calculateLayout -- file: ISTableLayout.lua line # 437 | Vanilla
function: calculateLayout -- file: ISTableLayout.lua line # 103 | Vanilla
function: calculateLayout -- file: ISHandCraftPanel.lua line # 112 | Vanilla
function: calculateLayout -- file: ISHandcraftWindow.lua line # 109 | Vanilla
function: prerender -- file: ISHandcraftWindow.lua line # 159 | Vanilla.
[25-12-25 08:47:48.259] LOG : General f:3605, t:1766670468259> .
[25-12-25 08:47:48.530] ERROR: General f:3605, t:1766670468530> KahluaThread.flushErrorMessage > dumping Lua stack trace

STACK TRACE

function: restoreJoypadState -- file: ISPanelJoypad.lua line # 344 | Vanilla
function: calculateLayout -- file: ISWidgetIngredientsInputs.lua line # 198 | Vanilla
function: calculateLayout -- file: ISTableLayout.lua line # 437 | Vanilla
function: calculateLayout -- file: ISTableLayout.lua line # 103 | Vanilla
function: calculateLayout -- file: ISCraftRecipePanel.lua line # 109 | Vanilla
function: updateTitleWidget -- file: ISCraftRecipePanel.lua line # 183 | Vanilla
function: update -- file: ISCraftRecipePanel.lua line # 143 | Vanilla.
[25-12-25 08:47:48.530] LOG : General f:3605, t:1766670468530> __len not defined for operand.

its just the OpenDriedMeatPackage

[pliant pelican]

this how it makign me feel lol

[merry grove]

You have level 2 cooking on the character?

[pliant pelican]

yup

plus im in debug mode

[merry grove]

Oh yeah

[pliant pelican]

Cant even click the item in crafting menu

[merry grove]

I made it so you need a soucepan or pot

[pliant pelican]

they still shouldnt cause the UI to delete to click the item to see what it requires in crafting menu

[merry grove]

Ah no it rehedrates correctly yes?

[pliant pelican]

yup

all other recipes work

[merry grove]

Alright, yeah I just made there mode:keep

but I think I can just delete the whole line there about it becuse its only needed for stuff

Also I am in a better Debug mode <w>

[pliant pelican]

you running the same scipts?

see you knocked down the to one error?

[merry grove]

Hm thinking about it

Complains about resolution of all things

[pliant pelican]

im just baffled on whats wrong

[merry grove]

Have a idea

[pliant pelican]

the amount of things ive been tweaking and trying

fried my brain

[merry grove]

I think I found it

Let me test it

Yup fixed it

You forgot a single comma here next to inputs

here be file fixed

blep

This one

Forgot that I also removed the icon for tests

[pliant pelican]

Aint no way

i swear to god i went and made sure to check for all the ,

man i feel so stupid LMFAO

[merry grove]

Check the rehydrated stuff recipies I fucked with them a bit and you might need to re-roll some of the changes I did <w>

You should be able to just run the Lue we finished now too

The last version

with isinstance

[pliant pelican]

bet

gonna try it

[quasi kernel]

For my use case this wouldn't work

Unfortunately, I tried it lol

World Items apparently spawn pretty late including after squares are loaded

[pliant pelican]

Added the LUA script to randomize it and won’t give me the item so I’m gonna test different functions

[bronze yoke]

singleplayer

[frank elbow]

I could've sworn in the earlier 42 builds there was an isSingleplayer global function added (that would avoid having to write it as in that screenshot), but I guess it was decided to be redundant

[knotty stone]

https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/zombie/chat/ChatManager.html#isSinglePlayerMode()

[frank elbow]

ChatManager is not exposed

& the info is available via isClient & isServer anyhow, it'd basically just be a shortcut for what NikkuMiru sent

Oh, if that was meant as a potential answer as to what I was thinking of: I meant a method exposed as a global Lua function in LuaManager.GlobalObject. Pretty sure it was added at some point & then removed

[knotty stone]

print(getWorld():getGameMode())
in sp you get Apocalypse -> Sandbox

in multi you get multiplayer, is that good enough?

[raven epoch]

how do i seperate the mod

i posted to workshop

and the one in me pc

[frank elbow]

I appreciate the effort, but again I'm not really looking for a solution 😅 Like I said, covered by the existing 2 functions lol

[frank elbow]

#mod_development message

I've moved away from a non-Steam game & just use a script to launch pz with different profiles (e.g., pz dev → dev mode, pz → playing the game), but the usual method is described there

[raven epoch]

oh

not sure if this is the same tho

wait

there no other way?

problem is that they both show up as the same mod

[frank elbow]

What is it about the way explained in that message that seems insufficient for your use case?

If you have 2 separate environments (i.e., Lua cache directories) for testing you won't see both

[raven epoch]

nvm i just renamed the dev one

why is steam workshop down 😭

what do u guys do when u run out of ideas

[bronze yoke]

something else

[frank elbow]

Shake and cry

[raven epoch]

good option

[sonic needle]

idea's for mods? i dont really run out. lol

[raven epoch]

me when peak mod crashes game

black screen when i exit to menu

its over

[bright fog]

Ah you're the person working on that thing yes

[quasi kernel]

I finished it already lol

I'm working on The Horrors™ now

[mellow frigate]

Have you been able to create ItemActions with IsoGridSquare or InventoryItem instances as parameters for the creation function (new) in Multiplayer ? Here is my log of the function client side, notice the first parameter (IsoPlayer instance) being passed: LOG : Lua f:312, t:1766691459269, st:24,174,113> Arc.ISBuildFromBlueprintActionMP 1 IsoPlayer{ Name:null, ID:389 } LOG : Lua f:312, t:1766691459270, st:24,174,113> Arc.ISBuildFromBlueprintActionMP 2 zombie.iso.IsoGridSquare@746e9674 LOG : Lua f:312, t:1766691459270, st:24,174,114> Arc.ISBuildFromBlueprintActionMP 3 Arc.Blueprint:zombie.inventory.types.Literature@10f0ed3e Here is my log server side: ```
LOG : Lua f:83, t:1766691459284, st:24ÔÇ»174ÔÇ»131> Arc.ISBuildFromBlueprintActionMP 1 IsoPlayer{ Name:null, ID:56 }
LOG : Lua f:83, t:1766691459285, st:24ÔÇ»174ÔÇ»132> Arc.ISBuildFromBlueprintActionMP 2 nil
LOG : Lua f:83, t:1766691459286, st:24ÔÇ»174ÔÇ»133> Arc.ISBuildFromBlueprintActionMP 3 nil

Here is the code ```lua
function ISBuildFromBlueprintActionMP:new(character, square, blueprintItem)
local o = {}
setmetatable(o, self)
self.__index = self
o.character = character;

print('Arc.ISBuildFromBlueprintActionMP 1', tostring(character))
print('Arc.ISBuildFromBlueprintActionMP 2', tostring(square))
print('Arc.ISBuildFromBlueprintActionMP 3', tostring(blueprintItem))

[bronze yoke]

can you post the full new function?

[mellow frigate]

full function: ```lua
function ISBuildFromBlueprintActionMP:new(character, square, blueprintItem)
local o = {}
setmetatable(o, self)
self.__index = self
o.character = character;

print('Arc.ISBuildFromBlueprintActionMP 1', tostring(character))
print('Arc.ISBuildFromBlueprintActionMP 2', tostring(square))
print('Arc.ISBuildFromBlueprintActionMP 3', tostring(blueprintItem))

o.x = square:getX();
o.y = square:getY();
o.z = square:getZ();
o.isTargetPositionValidated = false;
o.item = blueprintItem;

if blueprintItem then
    local md = blueprintItem:getModData()
    local arcMD = md and md[Arc.Key]
    if arcMD then
        for bID,serializedData in pairs(arcMD) do--there is only one here
            if Arc.Verbose then print('Arc.getBlueprintItems SD',bID,serializedData) end
            o.serializedBuilding = serializedData
        end
    else
        if Arc.Verbose then print('Arc.getBlueprintItems no arcMD',tab2str(md and md[Arc.Key])) end
    end
end
if not o.serializedBuilding then
    if Arc.Verbose then print('Arc.getBlueprintItems building definition found.') end
end

o.stopOnWalk = true;
o.stopOnRun = true;
o.stopOnAim = true;
o.maxTime = o:getDuration();
o.pageTimer = 0;
return o

end

error on o.x = square:getX(); client side. ```attempted index: getX of non-table: null
ERROR: General f:83, t:1766691459295, st:24ÔÇ»174ÔÇ»141> KahluaThread.flushErrorMessage > dumping Lua stack trace

STACK TRACE

function: new -- file: ISBuildFromBlueprintActionMP.lua line # 108 | MOD: Architect
ERROR: General f:83, t:1766691459297, st:24ÔÇ»174ÔÇ»143> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown

[bronze yoke]

you're misunderstanding how this is called on the server

each parameter will be sent the value the client had for a field of the same name

so you receive character correctly because you assign it to o.character, but there is no o.square or o.blueprintItem so they are sent nil

i recommend doing anything complex with arguments in a separate helper function that calls new(), and having new() just assign fields from arguments

[mellow frigate]

that's not really an option. The kind of arguments I can pass is limited to those set as serializable and I prefer to keep the size of them as small as possible. Still, I'll simplify the new function as you suggest and do stuff in another function called when not client.

[bronze yoke]

yeah use your best judgement, this looks much more complex than any action i've written so my experience may not apply to it

[mellow frigate]

works like a charm. you're magic

I mean, I still misunderstand, but now I can use 😄

[shy minnow]

Hello EtherealShigure, I saw many of your mods and I was questionning myself, how you do high quality texture for the vehicles ?

[sonic needle]

how do i? or how is it done

[tulip valve]

    local player = getPlayer();
    local stats = player:getStats();
    if player:hasTrait(CharacterTrait.Desensitized) then
       stats:remove(CharacterStat.STRESS, 100)
    end
end

Events.OnPlayerUpdate.Add(DesensitizedNoStress);```
Why dosnt this work? I get TONS of errors lol

[shy minnow]

I just did a vehicle mod of mine with high quality texture but in-game is like blurry/low texture

And I was asking myself how you did such high quality texture on for example small 3d models like the scooter traveler

[sonic needle]

what is your texture res at?

[shy minnow]

2048x2048

#modeling

I uploaded 2 screenshots of ingame and in blender

Like the render its really not the same in-game and I thought that maybe I did something bad

[sonic needle]

havent seen a texture at 2K get that minced before... its new

[shy minnow]

Ah crap, thanks for help tho lol

[raven epoch]

so i need to save some values that are not attached to any object

what is the best way to do that?

[fleet bridge]

Global mod data

[raven epoch]

oh right

ty

another question

removefromworld cant seem to remove isoplayer characters

[bright fog]

Unsure on the proper way for that but I believe there's some remove from square stuff too

Might be something related to that

[raven epoch]

lemme try that

removeFromSquare()

[fleet bridge]

I think you can't remove isoplayers that way?

I think that's for world objects

[raven epoch]

then what do

[fleet bridge]

What are you trying to do?

[raven epoch]

trying to remove isoplayer npcs

skyrim approach and teleport them far away and kill?

[fleet bridge]

This is single player?

[raven epoch]

ye

for b41

[fleet bridge]

Wasn't aware you could make isoplayer objects that isn't attached to a client

[bright fog]

Only in SP

[fleet bridge]

Most time I see it's just a dressed up zombie

Ah

[raven epoch]

ye i saw the dressed up zombie stuff

went the other route

[bright fog]

Zombies are used bcs they work in MP

[raven epoch]

mod is mostly for learning how to mod anyway

but i guess

i teleport them off the map and kill them

only solutiion

[bright fog]

You can't tp them in an unloaded area tho ?

Can you ?

[raven epoch]

then what do

idk never tried

i guess i could

set them invisible then kill them

we going to 30 fps with this one

[bright fog]

Seems to run fairly well no ?

[raven epoch]

ye went to 40 fps but still good

tho not sure how it will do on other devices

[main pasture]

I was able to remove isoPlayers in b41 with removeFromSquare, removeFromWorld and update in that order. Not sure if all of them were actually necessary

[raven epoch]

ooh update

lemme try

ye that worked

ty

[feral meteor]

Hi, Is this where we can ask for help with modding?

I am probably missing something or this is a skill issue but I am having issues getting a simple object to load in.

I get this or I get no object at all.

I will apply the Item data and also the error for when it doesn't load my model

(the atari is from the video game consoles mod. I swapped mine out with it to make sure it wasn't my model that was the issue but this is the issue its managed to pull with that model).

(these scrips are in the b42 folder and the files are the same in all the media folders).

Any help and knowledge would be appreciated.

[bright fog]

Easy

You didn't put your mod in the right folder

I suggest reading the Mod structure wiki page if you haven't yet

[feral meteor]

I did read it but I will take another look, Thanks

[bright fog]

Needs to be in the Workshop folder in your cache folder, not mods

That folder shouldn't be used for mod development overall

[feral meteor]

That explains a lot actually as it turns out I had a older version without the newer assets in there

[bright fog]

Yup !

[feral meteor]

Same issue though, things are still not loading.

[wet sandal]

Why are you on Windows 98

How is this possible

Lol

Awesome skin

[feral meteor]

I am not on 98, I wish this was.

This is just windows 10

[bright fog]

What isn't loading ?

[feral meteor]

the model it self isn't loading, or the texture, what I have placed isn't the model or texture.

[bright fog]

Wrong way to use the icon parameter

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Icon_(item_parameter)

[feral meteor]

that is the icon name

[bright fog]

No that isn't

Read that wiki page

You'll quickly see your mistake

Item_ isn't supposed to be present in the script

In the file name yes

Yes it's confusing

Also verify that your model is in the right folder

[feral meteor]

ahhh,

The models are located here

[quasi kernel]

Figured I'd show off what I'm working on here a bit too cuz why not https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/908459714248048730/1453906346544988161/theHorrors.mp4?ex=694f274d&is=694dd5cd&hm=cd0d29dce82e95d6fe65a9a7fccadb8487db21ba9b4f8b26797e4b29e8d8067a&

[worthy wharf]

yooo, happy xmas
this doubt is probably the most asked

how to setup the VS Code project to enable intellisense and make coding easier?

[bright fog]

Sounds good (I think)

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Umbrella_(modding)

[worthy wharf]

thx will check

[wet sandal]

So I'm just contemplating the best way to refactor Inventory Tetris for the new TimesAction changes in MP.

I've previously avoided changing the signature to ISInventoryTransferAction:new as that would be a hard incompatibility point between mods that did the same. Instead I opted to push some extra data in immediately after creation of the action (data = where the item should be placed in the destination grid)

With the new server realization stuff for TimedActions, I'm not certain how to best get this data into the action without overriding :new().

Does anyone know if the game provides any packet order guarantees?
If I call a command to send some data before making the action can I trust that will always get to the server before the action?

If I have to I can just override the new() params, but it would be unfortunate for mods to have to be competely incompatibile over some fully serializable metadata.

[bright fog]

I highly advise you don't overwrite parameters, that's at least what I'd suggest rn for less problems later

[wet sandal]

I agree, it feels wrong, especially under the new system

[bright fog]

Timed actions are now expecting the parameters from the new to be as fields to that timed action class for the server to locate them

The problem is that this bitch of a timed action that we ISInventoryTransferAction follows absolutely zero codes from the new timed action synchronization system

And it is unclear if they'll properly port this monstrosity of a timed action over to the new system

So is it a good idea to overwrite the parameters ? Probably not
Should you give a fuck ? Idk 😅

Regarding the commands sent to the server, you can be sure that your action will be done before the server receives it, or at least you should consider that always

Because when you send the command, your code still runs, packet received or not by the server

And thankfully or everything would just freeze constantly

[wet sandal]

Ok, does the server at least guarantee action order?

[bright fog]

Wdym by action order ? Like command order ?

So if you send command1 command2 command3 it receives them in the right order ?

[wet sandal]

Nah, like if I send 3 rapid inventory transfers to the server, will they go in order?

I know Zomboid uses UDP, but they must be using reliable UDP at some points

[bright fog]

I probably wouldn't trust it ?

I have no idea tbh

[wet sandal]

Specifically TimedActions

[bright fog]

My knowledge on networking stops there I think

I don't remember of a case where respecting the order of timed action matters since you never run two at the same times ?

[bronze yoke]

i don't know about any order guarantees, but commands are definitely sent reliably

[feral meteor]

Ok did more testing, It now seems to just load icons.

I am not entirely sure why it places Icons and not the models.

[bright fog]

I'd verify that the model properly exported by reimporting it in Blender

Is your item in the world "invisible" ? Or is it still an icon ?

[feral meteor]

Its still an Icon, though it did nothing when the character attached it as primary. Hence why the atari model was borrowed from a kown working mod

Also blender is able to reimport my model.

[bright fog]

Verify your model scripts

Are you on B41 ?

[feral meteor]

B42.13 (before fix)

[bright fog]

The DisplayName parameter no longer exists

Not the source of your problem

But just noticed it

[feral meteor]

Removed, Better to catch now before I copy and paste this across all of the mod lol

[bright fog]

Yup

[feral meteor]

These are the 2 scripts currently.

[bright fog]

I don't notice anything wrong with model script definition but I could be missing it

What I would suggest is to download VSCode and the PZ script extension

It can possibly help you catch some problems

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Visual_Studio_Code

[feral meteor]

darn it, back to VS code I go lol

[bright fog]

Will also make it easier to manage your mods

VSCode is great, really

Get used to it

It's the norm in the modding community

[open fossil]

It helped me out a bunch, just being able to search for things in the vanilla Zomboid files.

[feral meteor]

I was removing it from my systems due to it enabling features that make no sense on some of my systems.

I guess I will remain stuck to it

[bright fog]

What features ?

[feral meteor]

Sticky scroll kept enabling randomly,

Some AI features.

To note is that my laptops are like 15 years old and so I don't want something too intensive as the batt lasts like 3 to 5 hours (good for its age but as its that old it risks degrading quickly)

[open fossil]

Which reminds me, why are the blacksmithing recipes stuck inside a folder invisible to everything but VSCode?

[feral meteor]

*My main PC is not 15 years old

I just don't want to spend money on laptops

but oh well lol

[open fossil]

I shall elaborate, stand by.

[bright fog]

Sticky scroll idk wtf that is

For the AI features, that was a discussion we had recently and you can disable those in the settings

[feral meteor]

Its horrible, basically every function on your screen gets a top slice of the screen and it just expands as you scroll down.

[open fossil]

Nevermind, I dumbed again. I was looking in scripts/entities/blacksmith instead of scripts/generated/entities/blacksmith. I thought there were phantom files on my bitch.

[bright fog]

Yea not sure what you mean 😅

[feral meteor]

This,

The more functions you have and the longer the file. The worse this gets.

Its that bit at the top of the file

[bronze yoke]

it should only show the scopes you're currently in, your code may be weirdly complex if this is an issue?

and it's almost certainly something you can just turn off

[feral meteor]

Its that it turns it self on sometimes on some of my computers

that was my issue

not that its a feature, but when working on some projects it turns on and I then have to remember its name and disable it.

[bright fog]

I never had such problem

[wet sandal]

Think I have a plan now.
Keep my code changes to the ISInventoryTransferAction. But when I have grid data to go with one, create my own version of the action that extends the normal action and includes the grid data in the params.
Then all the functions other than new can just directly reference ISInventoryTransferAction.

No packet order to worry about.

[bright fog]

Maybe do a clean reinstall of vscode

[feral meteor]

One day.

Its 2 to 3 devices that did it so far.

Anyway it didn't see anything wrong ether other then not recognising the ItemType.

[bright fog]

Yea that extension isn't up to date

[bronze yoke]

where is your mesh located?

[bright fog]

I plan on updating it

[bronze yoke]

just double checking but mesh = TestPuter, would be looking for models_X/TestPuter.fbx

[bright fog]

Yea

That's what he has I believe ?

[feral meteor]

42\media\models_X\TestPuter.fbx

[bright fog]

Here

[wise plank]

Howdy

[scenic tusk]

does anyone know anything about the umbrella plugin for vs code because someone told me something about it and how it can color code the syntax in the zomboid files just thought itd be nice to have

[winter bolt]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Umbrella_(modding)

it has the download link and installation guide

[scenic tusk]

thank you

[winter bolt]

what questions did you have btw?

[wise plank]

Should I ask it here or in the modding discord?

Does it matter?

Well, I've got some confusion regarding file structure. From what I've gathered, (since I'm making it strictly for B42) it should look something like Workshop>MyMod>Contents>mods>MyMod>42>media and then lua and scripts and what not. Since I'm only making it for 42, I don't need a media folder in the MyMod folder with common and 42, yeah?

and since I'm going to be adjusting existing systems, I shouldn't override anything and try to monkey-patch everything to avoid conflicts

[winter bolt]

either is fine

[winter bolt]

yeah you dont need any of the b41 stuff

b42 wont even read it i think

[scenic tusk]

does anyone have any experience adding items to be foraged in build 42?

I want to add an existing item and Ive already found the files and stuff holding the code for foraging categories Im just wondering what all I would have to add in my own lua script in order for it to work

[silent zealot]

There was a discussion on it recently in this channel.

#mod_development message

[scenic tusk]

thank you ill look into it

[wise plank]

When I'm developing a mod, should it reside in Zomboid>mods or Workshop?

The wiki says that developing in Workshop makes it easier to upload, but its also forcing the mod to load even trying to play unmodded.

[scenic tusk]

I would reccomend workshop but I dont know if its supposed to be forcing the mod

[modern veldt]

Is there any way to use external libraries like lua websocket?

Or any way to send and get http requests?

Why there is strict restriction on modding in this game 🤨

[brave bone]

hey guys, where can I find the documents for 42.13 MP?

[bronze yoke]

no lua library that relies on a c library will work

[bronze yoke]

https://discord.com/channels/136501320340209664/1448602571810803785

[acoustic thistle]

is there a mod that can give me 106’s goggles

[dreamy ivy]

howdy folks, im looking to make an in depth pharmaceutical mod.

how do i go about making a mod that adds items into the game that can effect player stats and moodles?

it would basically be redoing the current in game drugs (painkillers, beta blockers, sleeping pills) with generic medications that achieve the same purposes

i know next to nothing about scripting, but im assuming that all i'd have to do is duplicate the code for the existing drugs, edit the values and names, and change the sprites

[crimson ore]

how to insert and remove from Distributions? such as inventorymale = {
suburbs distro has some nice functions but they dont seem to work?

[worthy wharf]

try to install this mod here, then look at the code.
that would be the easiest non-coding example

Sourdough, Vinegar, & Cheese (42.13.X)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3625348470

for the moodles part i cannot comment yet since i just started modding few days ago

[crimson ore]

i beleive i have discovered the keys to the kingdom nvm

[worthy wharf]

how you did it?

[grizzled fable]

can't find any info about workstations, is it possible to mod them? ty

[crimson ore]

i used this (link to msg) but changed SuburbsDistributions (and the other) to SuburbsDistributions.all.inventorymale #mod_development message

will need to verify it removes it just from that list but it does remove it via lootzed

[worthy wharf]

maybe try seaching for "workstation" in the game git repo

[grizzled fable]

yeah but i mean, do you have any information to how recipes are done or something like that?

[dreamy ivy]

also how do i do this?
https://gyazo.com/ce8f709dcba4d696c989276f7a757be5

for context: im trying to add true music radio to my world after i created the game

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3100475013&searchtext=radio

[worthy wharf]

i did not investigate workstaion yet, lets hope somebody will reply later

[worthy wharf]

sounds like you asking for this file here. some mods add options at the end

[dreamy ivy]

its for a singleplayer world, idk if "severtest" means its specifically for a server or not

sounds dumb, but i just dont know

[worthy wharf]

good question, i never tried to change singleplayer settings

[worthy wharf]

https://youtu.be/fDmG1GXx2Sg?t=47

[grizzled fable]

found XD

[worthy wharf]

please share!

[grizzled fable]

Workstations
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\media\scripts\generated\entities"
Here you can find all entities=Workstations and all recipes related, yw 😉 i put the first word the title so if someone will search in discord will find this.

[crimson ore]

to add to this, this is how ive setup my file

 local function postDistributionMerge()
    RemoveItemFromDistribution(SuburbsDistributions.all.inventorymale, "Wallet_Male", nil, true)
    RemoveItemFromDistribution(SuburbsDistributions.all.inventorymale, "Locket", nil, true)
    RemoveItemFromDistribution(SuburbsDistributions.all.inventorymale, "CigarettePack", nil, true)

    RemoveItemFromDistribution(ProceduralDistributions.all.inventorymale, "Wallet_Male", nil, true)
    RemoveItemFromDistribution(ProceduralDistributions.all.inventorymale, "Locket", nil, true)
    RemoveItemFromDistribution(ProceduralDistributions.all.inventorymale, "CigarettePack", nil, true)
end
Events.OnPostDistributionMerge.Add(postDistributionMerge)

[worthy wharf]

is it working?

[crimson ore]

well when inspecting with lootzed they no longer appear in male zomboid inventories. still havent checked any other container tho

eu5 time

[brave bone]

Thank you 🙂

[worthy wharf]

try this way as well

[worthy wharf]

where is the lootzed button in the debug?

[grizzled fable]

you need to activate the "Cheats" than open any container and you will see it

[modern veldt]

in addition to this, just open to pz steam folder and create .exe's shortcut and add -debug. then move to the desktop, can also pin to taskbar for quick access.

is there any one inside indie stone here? I believe modding is highly resticted cause of this limited lua support. it'd be awesome if they had extend this limitation.

[frank elbow]

If you have specific suggestions there's https://discord.com/channels/136501320340209664/1318920979581501502

[modern veldt]

nah, it'll take forever for them to implement

[bright fog]

What's your thought ?

[modern veldt]

We can't utilize the power of Lua I believe

It'd be awesome for us to be able to use native libraries at least

Also, modding in Java also would be nice

[frank elbow]

Java modding is possible

[frank elbow]

It's true that there are gaps in Kahlua (the old, unmaintained form of Lua in use by the game with some modifications), but if you say what you're missing maybe we can help with alternatives

e.g., rather than io, there are some global functions provided by the game's API that serve a similar purpose

[raven epoch]

me when i realise vector3 class exists

(code is cooked)

[raven epoch]

nah nvm its bad

[bright fog]

Wdym we can't ?

[sour wave]

I just realized I can reload scripts without having to open/close the game every time..

[tranquil kindle]

You can do that with Animations and models too in most cases

[normal moth]

Does anyone have a breakdown of what changed with B42.13?

My mod quit working, and I was wondering if anyone had ideas where I should start.

[raven epoch]

there is a sub topic tho im not sure if thats what ur looking for

modding migration guide 42.13 it say

[normal moth]

I'm a part time modder on PZ. It's not something I keep a close eye on.

I uploaded the ancient armor and weapons, from B41 to B42.

[normal moth]

Thanks! I'll look into it.

[raven epoch]

the button on the left on top right

ok

[normal moth]

Ah I see it! Thanks!!

[raven epoch]

ur welcome

anyone know whats wrong with this?

it keeps printing no square

but ik the startposition is valid

[bright fog]

Why are you still not using Umbrella ? 💀

[raven epoch]

didnt have time to set it up

was too tired otherwise

[bright fog]

I swear this has been the 3rd to 4th time I've been telling you to use it to catch problems easier

[raven epoch]

so continued modding straight up

[bright fog]

It takes literally two seconds to setup

Also for array looping, don't use ipairs but use direct array size looping

[raven epoch]

oh thats faster right

i remember now

[bright fog]

Yes

[raven epoch]

ye should change those in me code some time

[bright fog]

And seriously I'm not joking, go install Umbrella

Stop asking modding question if you don't even use Umbrella, it'll catch half of your problems seriously

[raven epoch]

installing it rn hold on

[bright fog]

You're already using VSCode, so no excuses

[raven epoch]

done

wait

aight so im kinda new to modding and vscode so sorry about that

but

it doesnt seem to recognise

IsoPlayer etc

[bright fog]

How did you activate Umbrella ?

[raven epoch]

i installed emmyslua and enabled umbrella

[bright fog]

Enabled Umbrella ? You don't enable Umbrella

[bright fog]

What did you do to get Umbrella

[bright fog]

That's LuaLs

Not EmmyLua

Uninstall LuaLs

And read the Umbrella wiki page

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Umbrella_(modding)

[raven epoch]

alright i installed it and it works

though i dont understand why its warning in some parts

ah nevermind

[quasi kernel]

I still need to set that up

[raven epoch]

for an example how would i fix this?

it says cannot assign long to integer

[bright fog]

Did you put your cursor on the thing that's highlighted

[raven epoch]

do i have to manually declare long?

[bright fog]

That one might actually be one of the rare times where it'll scream at you for no reasons

[raven epoch]

same as here

[bright fog]

@bronze yoke I assume in this case he should either do a --[[@as number]] typing to TimeMill ?

[raven epoch]

no message in this one, just outlined

[bright fog]

That line is normal

It's not an error

When it's a straight line like that it isn't at error, it just means that you redefine a variable at some point

[bronze yoke]

what version of umbrella is this??

[raven epoch]

ah

it is 41.78.16

[bright fog]

You're using EmmyLua right ?

[bronze yoke]

oh i see

[bright fog]

Oh you're on B41

Use LuaLs then

[bronze yoke]

the b41 version of umbrella is really old and blows

[raven epoch]

oops

[bronze yoke]

it shouldn't matter

[bright fog]

I thought B41 Umbrella didn't support EmmyLua ?

[raven epoch]

well seems useful regardless so ill keep

[bronze yoke]

it doesn't support emmylua's extra features

[raven epoch]

i appreciate u guys helping btw

though i still cant fix my original problem

[bright fog]

When it screams at you an error now, you know it's for a good reason the majority of the time

[raven epoch]

😭

[bright fog]

Fix those errors and it's likely to prevent problems before they even happen

[bright fog]

This is why you need to use Umbrella

[raven epoch]

but most work fine tho

[bright fog]

That's good, it means you did things well the majority of the time then

[raven epoch]

hold up

just fixed an bug thanks to this

because of misspelling

ok fixed original bug

[icy night]

Question: I need to cancel the effects of one of my mods after the player exits the game to return to the main menu. Would OnSave or OnPostSave be the correct events for this?

[bronze yoke]

usually you don't need to do anything, lua resets when you exit a save no matter what

[icy night]

Well it reduces the volume, so when you return to the main menu, it remain a lowered volume until you start clicking stuff

[bronze yoke]

ah yeah, to be honest that's tough, i don't know if there is a good event for that

[icy night]

It's my functional ear muffs mod. I'm just trying to fix the script up nicer now that I know a bit more about lua

Ill try OnSave. I think it'll do it

[raven epoch]

why the space between sandbags?

dont squares only hold 1 tile object?

[bright fog]

Verify your code for placing and creating the tiles

[bright fog]

NewCenterPosition

When you do add it doesn't create a copy I believe

[raven epoch]

ah

so it edits the original

[bright fog]

So here you're adding an offset of 4 or so

Yes

[raven epoch]

ye makes sense

annoying tho

ty

[bright fog]

Tbh I don't think you need to use vectors here

[raven epoch]

i wanted to do adding and subtracting easily

[dreamy ivy]

i was able to load the mod into my save world, but i dont think its working. all of the preset frequencies just play static

[bright fog]

You can already do that with simple maths tho

[dreamy ivy]

im prolly doing something wrong with the mod setup 😭

[bright fog]

Before running this, cache the coordinates of NewCenterPosition into x y z variables, then simply create new_x, new_y, new_z variables that you add the TileData coordinates to

Also I'd advise using key tables for your TileData here

It'll make it easier for you to manage and expand in the future

[raven epoch]

gimme a min

aight ty

[shy minnow]

How can I make the rally lamp bar light up too? I've already put the headlights in the texture mask and the headlights in the texture light. Can anyone help me?

And the rally lamp is an item that I can detach like that :

[wet sandal]

So whats up with moddata on servers?

Do I have to manually trigger send and receieve now?

[bright fog]

You always needed to sync those when needed

[wet sandal]

Hmm, maybe it was more so there was a local cache before?

[bright fog]

Wdym ?

[wet sandal]

Just for client stuff on the player

It persisted on its own I thought

But maybe I'm misremembering. I didn't have a good test workflow before for server stuff

[bright fog]

What persisted ?

[wet sandal]

Client side only moddata that I stored in the playerObj moddata

[bright fog]

That's persistent yes

player:getModData()

[bronze yoke]

it is server auth now

[wet sandal]

are clientCommands the go to way to sync mod data on objects that aren't the player?

[bronze yoke]

the server sets mod data and calls object:transmitModData() to update the clients: if you need to set it from the client, you need to send a command to tell the server to do that

[wet sandal]

What about things like InventoryItems?
They have moddata, but no transmitModData()

[sour wave]

gotta do some sketchy shit like convert thigns to strings/integers etc and save that, then reconvert when loading

Atleast, tahts what Ive had to do

[bronze yoke]

syncItemModData(player, item) where player is the player who has the item

i'm not entirely sure looking at that that this api accounts for the case where you change the mod data of an item that is not in a player's inventory

[wet sandal]

Hmm, gets me most of the way there.
Will need to explore ground items though, mainly for Inventory Tetris grids for bags on the floor

[icy night]

onsave works good.

[icy night]

Hey so I'd like to make a clothing item that is invisible when worn. How can I do that?

[willow tulip]

yeaaaa people be complaining about trying to repair stuff on the ground

and im like.. cool. more stuff for me to disable -_-

also fluid syncing doesn't work for objects inside vehicle containers

Im like this close to just writing all my own sync packets because all the vanilla functions seem broken.

[quasi kernel]

Mwehehehee,,, https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1000863017396871209/1454227388107067442/musicBox.mp4?ex=6950524b&is=694f00cb&hm=33329288f1f62e943203ce309cbf2691d071ed9183c9fa1b6602018890491d95&

[winter bolt]

you have to add a transparent texture and then have the item use the texture

[shy mantle]

@willow tulip

[willow tulip]

Kaboom?

[shy mantle]

Kind of? The results of flipping a car on its side violently does give off the same results, just add the pipe bomb explosion lol

[bright fog]

It doesn't explode yea 😅

I noticed that the other day too

[shy mantle]

I'm already seeing what I can do to add jump and landmine

[shy mantle]

You can actually make proper helicopters with this

That is if they ever plan on making it work for extended periods in the air lol

After too much time in the air, the car freezes up

[bright fog]

Helicopters already exist in PZ

And in B42 they can even properly change Z level

And land on roofs

[shy mantle]

It's not as smooth as this tbf

It feels like flappy bird

[willow tulip]

Im confused...

[shy mantle]

Imagine a car bomb from underneath, but without the explosion and the car nearly instantly flips to a position (not a teleport because it carries momentum). I have not tested this, but you need to define a square and a vehicle, so I'm assuming the square is the position the explosion is coming from?

[willow tulip]

Is this something in vanilla or?

[shy mantle]

Like I said, I haven't looked into it fully, but I'm going to try and implement it.

[shy mantle]

Very vanilla, easy to call as well

[willow tulip]

If you want to apply an impulse to a vehicle, there is a bullet function for that

public void addImpulse(org.joml.Vector3f impulse, org.joml.Vector3f rel_pos) on baseVehicle IIRC.

[shy mantle]

@willow tulip it's just vehicle:onJump() and vehicle:onHitLandmine(square)

Super basic

[willow tulip]

... who.... who spent time adding that...

shrugs

[shy mantle]

Well just hope and pray for better vehicle physics sooner than later lol

Not like this is related, but good for testing

Doing jump tests mass and suspension work, 1 jump can send the player into the shadow realm, so it's clear they need to work on that

[willow tulip]

    public void onHitLandmine(IsoGridSquare square) {
        this.ApplyImpulse(square.getX(), square.getY(), square.getZ(), 0.0F, 0.0F, 1.0F, 300000.0F);
        DebugType.General
            .println(
                "Hit a land mine! %f, %f, %f. isActive: %s, isStatic: %s",
                (float)square.getX(),
                (float)square.getY(),
                (float)square.getZ(),
                this.isActive ? "true" : "false",
                this.isStatic ? "true" : "false"
            );
    }

new to B42.13.1

also... not how impulse is used lol

actually wait I guess thats the offset position.. well whatever

... still pretty sure that should be a relative position to the car

[shy mantle]

Whatever they did, it's over the top for the current physics

[willow tulip]

yea that'd be the 300000 part.

[shy mantle]

lol I didn't notice that

[willow tulip]

        this.ApplyImpulse(this.getX(), this.getY(), this.getZ(), 0.0F, 0.0F, 1.0F, 1000000.0F);
        DebugType.General.println("Jump! isActive: %s, isStatic: %s", this.isActive ? "true" : "false", this.isStatic ? "true" : "false");
    }```

just.. sigh 😛

[shy mantle]

The jump is super weak though?

[willow tulip]

shrugs

actually nm they do subtract the positions in applyImpulse

Prob because jump has to lift the entire vehicle while landmine only has to flip it

[shy mantle]

Does the square actually matter when flipping the car? Like, less power from a further distance?

Or even just flipping in a specific direction

All things I will look at myself anyways because this is funny

[willow tulip]

Should.

the further the distance, the more it will rotate the car instead of lift the car

[shy mantle]

Cool, can't wait for B43

Driving over a landmine would be crazy

[vague holly]

Hey guys this is my first time in this discord server I don't know if anyone here is a modder but I had an idea if anyone sees this

I think it would be really cool if there was a stranger things mod like i know making the upside is probably impossible but i think it would be cool if you could make the zombeis like demogorgons and make the vines and stuff blue and make it dark and spooky

[grizzled fable]

broken timed action on MP, anyone have the same problem?

[bright fog]

They changed some things, you need to adjust them

[silent zealot]

Break your idea down into a list of specific things. Then have a look at what is and isn't feasible.

Then start modding.

[grizzled fable]

ty very usefull, anyway the problem was this

[red blade]

Is it possible to mod in animals in PZ? With their own behaviors/AI and drops and such?

I tried looking but I couldn't find any (except Fauna but apparently they're "props" so I assume they dont move or anything)

I guess the overall question is how far can you mod PZ

Like in Minecraft you can virtually code in new game systems into the game, how about PZ

[tranquil kindle]

https://discord.com/channels/136501320340209664/1366841696796672031 there are a few, but this one seems to be most advanced

Its still wip i belive

Of course we talk b42+

[raven epoch]

does gametime.getservertime change with gamespeed?

my ai seems to go goofy if u speed up the game

[silent zealot]

PZ is divided up into two major parts: Java and Lua. Anything in lua can be modded, and a lot of java stuff has a LUA API. But there are also lots of things that only exist in java with no easy way to mod them.

Java mods are possible, but require users to manually move files around and they tend to break with every update which is a pain with the unstable version.

So the answer is "technically you can mod anything, but in practical terms there are a lot of limitations"

[upbeat turtle]

the most challenging thing with animals at the moment are getting the animations down.. that and knowing how to navigate animaldefinitions.

to be honest, i’d recommend holding off on doing animals until tis releases better api for them. this is coming from roughly 2k hours of modding them so far x-x

we can give them custom behaviors, equipment items, you name it ~ all it needs is custom lua code

[knotty stone]

So, i wanted to update my torchrefill mod

   local items = craftRecipeData:getAllConsumedItems();
   local result = craftRecipeData:getAllCreatedItems():get(0);
   local previousBT = nil;
   local propane_refill = nil;
   print("Server - RefillBlowTorchMod OnCreate called - isClient: " .. tostring(isClient()) .. " isServer: " .. tostring(isServer()));
   
   for i=0, items:size()-1 do
      if items:get(i):getType() == "BlowTorch" then
          previousBT = items:get(i);
      elseif items:get(i):getType() == "Propane_Refill" then
          propane_refill = items:get(i);
      end
   end
   result:setUsedDelta(previousBT:getCurrentUsesFloat() + result:getUseDelta() * 30);

   while result:getCurrentUsesFloat() < 1 and propane_refill:getCurrentUsesFloat() > 0 do
       result:setUsedDelta(result:getCurrentUsesFloat() + result:getUseDelta() * 10);
       propane_refill:Use();
   end

   if result:getCurrentUsesFloat() > 1 then
       result:setUsedDelta(1);
   end
end``` 
Working fine now in sp, but in multiplayer it seems that its not loading the function when crafting, the print statement only triggers once, when the server loads?

[raven epoch]

heeelp

wait

does mod data not change from save to save?

[bright fog]

Yes it does

[raven epoch]

somethings wrong with my saving then

[bright fog]

You don't have to save jackshit

What's up with people having problems with that shit, mod data is a dynamic table, throw things in it and forget about, worst case you need to sync with the server/client

You shouldn't do any kind of saving of the mod data

It already saves the mod data itself when you quit a save

You don't have to hook to OnSave or anything to save

[raven epoch]

ah i mean the way i save my objects

[bright fog]

Uh ?

[raven epoch]

ok i save

a table that holds where npcs are going to be spawned right

and its called militarystructure

for some reason when i make a NEW save

fresh one

[bright fog]

Where do you save the table ?

[raven epoch]

global mod data

[bright fog]

In what way do you save ?

[raven epoch]

it acts as if there is already one saveed

[bright fog]

What do you do to "save"

Mod data should have its data dynamically injected

You don't store ANYTHING with a save or whatever

[bright fog]

You don't SAVE

You just throw shit in it

See that's your problem here

You trigger that mod data on multiple events

And there's no reasons for you to do any of that

[raven epoch]

wdym

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_data

local player = getPlayer()
local modData = player:getModData()
modData.myString = "Hello World"
modData.myNumber = 42
modData.myTable = {1, 2, 3}
modData.myBoolean = true

It's a table

Store things in it

That's it

[raven epoch]

yeah okey

thats what i do

[bright fog]

There's no saving to do

There's no SAVING to do

[bright fog]

No you don't

[raven epoch]

isnt the only difference between a normal table and

mod data is that it saves to game files

[bright fog]

The fact you have a save function is the problem here

There's no saving to do

It's a table

[raven epoch]

oh

[sour island]

get or create also ...creates it

[raven epoch]

i thought it saved no idea where i got that from

[sour island]

chatgpt?

[raven epoch]

no just

misunderstood it i guess

[bright fog]

You're the second person to fall for some shit like in 2 days

I think I need to clarify this bit on the wiki page because that's abnormal, it comes from other games modding

[raven epoch]

so in order to make stuff persistent data on the same save

i need to save to a text file or smth?

[bright fog]

No !

You don't save jackshit

It saves itself

It's a table