mod_development

[surreal pulsar]

Imma credit you in the mod cause why not

[regal umbra]

Thank you!

[shy mantle]

bump, I need to know so I can do this

[surreal pulsar]

too many cooks ahh traffic jam

[regal umbra]

Well when I spawn a vehicle I use IsoDirections.Direction i,e

IsoDirections.E for East facing vehicles etc..

addVehicleDebug(vehicle, IsoDirections.E, nil, square)

[surreal pulsar]

Maybe you could do SE?

[shy mantle]

traffic jams have some sort of hidden overwriting thing going on though

for a normal spawn yeah, but there's something else happening for traffic jams

[surreal pulsar]

Also holy traffic

[shy mantle]

They can be used as trafficjamn, trafficjams, trafficjame, trafficjamw, to get a general direction for the car to face, but I want it to be straight in that direction and not with random deviation.

[surreal pulsar]

What resolution does the cover image have to be?

[shy mantle]

I think it's under a class file...

I might be screwed

[queen oasis]

might be janky, but you could check vehicle direction and fix the rotation with setAngles(). looking at the code, you should(maybe) have room to rotate them in a line without causing overlap

[surreal pulsar]

I made a negative trait mod and made the negative trait a positive trait 😭😭

[bright fog]

[surreal pulsar]

And it dosent work so it’s a free 32 trait points

[queen oasis]

I hate IsoTree

[shy mantle]

are boats a planned feature or is there another reason for vehicle properties to have water direction, speed, and ground measured.

[surreal pulsar]

They’ll make kayaks eventually

Not announced

WAIT I JUST GOT AN IDEA FOR A MOD

A BIG BAG WITH ONE COOKIE IN IT

[red tiger]

I've been on a massive writers binge lately. I might write up a set of tracks for True Music for soul and whiskey blues.

[small topaz]

In the B42 map, https://b42map.com/, are the yellow cells which you can see be clicking Grid the same as the IsoCell objects from the game?

[bronze yoke]

no, isocells have nothing to do with map regions

there is only one isocell at any time and it represents the entire loaded area, not a specific region

[small topaz]

Oh ok. Thank you!!! That could make my current stuff much easier in fact!

Do you know how many square the loaded area typically has?

[bronze yoke]

in b41 it seems to be about 200x200, i don't have a number for b42 but it's smaller

[red tiger]

A lot of map and render magic numbers / constants are now powers of two which is fantastic and long overdue.

Computers behave better when using powers of two.

[bright fog]

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Steam Uploader v0.5.0

• Added a last version fetch and warning message when a new version is available
• Application name is now normalized between windows and linux (app and app.exe)
• Now using CMake instead of Make files
• Reworked release.yml to better handle windows libraries
  https://github.com/SirDoggyJvla/Steam-Uploader/releases/tag/v0.5.0

[coarse sinew]

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[true nova]

but mr beast was gonna give me money 😭

[sly ivy]

heya sorry to be extremely basic here but i cant find any media on how to make a melee mod (I know the basic file structures, but the making the coding work eludes), any advice or helpful videos?

[bright fog]

wdym by a melee mod ?

[sly ivy]

a mod for melee

oh i get what you mean my sleep deprived ass didnt understand for a sec,

a one handed melee weapon

[bright fog]

So you want to create a new weapon ? That's it ?

No new animations etc

[sly ivy]

Wdym by "thats it?"

[bright fog]

Nothing negative, it can sound like it but that's not what I meant

[sly ivy]

oh i didnt mean to imply that, im just incredibly sleep deprived and mistake alot in text and tone

but yeah just a knife

[strange juniper]

Ngl that would be peak

[surreal pulsar]

Imma make it

It’s gonna release alongside my other mod

[strange juniper]

You should

You should make a trait like “Prepared: Cookie” to pair with your mod

[surreal pulsar]

Hell yeah

1 trait points for a huge -120 hunger cookie

[sly ivy]

4 day long ration of a singular, 2 foot tall cookie

[thin swan]

Do you have the model done for it, or are you planning on using an existing vanilla game model?

[sly ivy]

got the model, put it in an .fbx file with the 1x scale, put it in a media/weapons/1handed folder

[sly ivy]

sorry forgot to reply with my message

[thin swan]

Okay that's good, do you have an item script for it?

[sly ivy]

I salvaged parts from another mod and used the shortblade category and stuff to make it a knife in the script for the items and model, but the model wont load for some reason but thats probably to do with the texture

[willow tulip]

Anyone here know the difference between basehunger and hungerchange?

(for foods)

[surreal pulsar]

Makes sense

[sly ivy]

new every time i pull out the weapon my game crashes

The icon doesnt load either

[surreal pulsar]

Wait your mod actually works?

The item exists?

[sly ivy]

yea, but the model doesnt load, the icon doesnt load, the posters dont load, attempting to use it crashes my game to main menu and holding it unloads nearby ground items

[surreal pulsar]

Mines mostly just meshes and traits (not the cookie one) and the hair is levitating off the body, hats cover up the entire body, jackets and such float in the sky and animations are glitchy af

[true nova]

cursed knife gives player +1 crashed game state

[true nova]

give the item script

[sly ivy]

I deleted it, im gonna re-do it,

[surreal pulsar]

I kinda used ChatGPT for half my scripts

[regal umbra]

I mean its not bad, its not great either, it's even worse if you're just straight up copy and pasting stuff without really caring nor making an effort to learn

[surreal pulsar]

I mean it’s better than some script I wrote while drunk

[regal umbra]

well the thing is, chatgpt is many times wrong

and it sources you stuff from previous builds

[surreal pulsar]

I edit it anyways

I’m not that much of a silly bean

[regal umbra]

i love starting 500 new runs to check every script implementation 💀

[bright fog]

Why do you start new runs ?

[regal umbra]

Well, because my mod mainly works by hooking OnCreatePlayer and a lot of times im messing with either traits/professions or vehicle spawns from the vehicle list

[bright fog]

Ah by new runs you mean a new character ?

[regal umbra]

Ye

Rn im trying to add a square check to make sure a vehicle and a trailer can spawn

Since Im adding support for the big semi's

Yes, before that it was hardcoded 😭

In return this will allow players to spawn in cities with the mod too

instead of having RV's and vans spawn on rooftops

[surreal pulsar]

@regal umbra proof you are underrated 😭

why does mine pop up second when I search it

you should be first that Ava thing is a glorified nudity mod

[regal umbra]

I think i show up in the most popular in the past week

Like 3rd

[surreal pulsar]

also who tf is playing project junoid when it dosent even work

cookie more functional than ts

[regal umbra]

Yeah, yesterday my mod was on Zomboid's Drop more mod place

I had a huge peak of subscribers & visitors over night

[surreal pulsar]

I don’t want mine to get popular until I fix it

[surreal pulsar]

that’s a lodda people

also who are the 234 people who thought ‘damn this mod looks good’

It’s Kentucky because the cover image is deep fried

[regal umbra]

I'm downloading your mod to check the code out :p

[surreal pulsar]

So you want to look into a void?

I forgot to even add the mesh 😭

[regal umbra]

Why are you requiring the folder that you have the lua in 😭

[surreal pulsar]

You gotta have the mod yk

Can’t have pirates

[regal umbra]

Im talking about this

This doesn't do anything, not in your code at least

[surreal pulsar]

Oh

I’ll change it

[regal umbra]

You don't need to require

That is only used when you need to reference another file.

Like lets say you have a table in a file named Vehicles_List.lua, inside that file you have this table

Vehicles_list = {
 {"car1"}, {"car2"}, etc..
}

But now you want to access that table but on another file like SpawnCar.lua

you do

local car_list = require "Vehicles_List"

to tell the code that he needs to look inside the vehicles_list.lua
then you can do

spawnCar(car_list.Vehicles_list)

Essentially you're saying to spawnCar from the car_list table which is the table in vehicles_list.lua

[surreal pulsar]

I’ll patch that

[regal umbra]

I mean it's not bad, it really just doesn't do anything lmao, it's not really breaking your mod, it just has no use because you gave it no use

[surreal pulsar]

It just takes up a byte innit

[regal umbra]

Pretty much

The rest of the code looks good

[muted root]

How does one edit the vanilla textures?
Just replace the ones in media/textures?

[surreal pulsar]

Okay so imma just pray the meshes work now

https://tenor.com/view/metin2-servers-are-being-fixed-server-down-metin2-metin2-servers-down-metin2-fix-servers-metin2-praying-for-servers-gif-14381007301629613734

[true nova]

What textures you want to replace?

[muted root]

Some clothing textures
I started with park ranger set, tried to change them in said folder
When booting up the game the textures weren't changed however

specifically Shirt_ParkRanger.png, PoliceHatRanger.png and Trouser_ParkRanger.png in media/textures

[queen oasis]

whoops

[surreal pulsar]

I’m having a similar issue with my mod

Hats either float above the character or cover it entirely

[muted root]

-# someone chopped a 1000 year old tree

[surreal pulsar]

So it’s just a hat running around killing zombies

[queen oasis]

is that so bad?

[surreal pulsar]

Eh someone might like it

And someone might like lovecraftian trees

[queen oasis]

those trees deserved it

[surreal pulsar]

all my homies hate trees

so much scratches

[muted root]

I love trees, totally not biased as a park ranger player /j

[queen oasis]

I like my trees. my neighbors 2 giant half rotten sugar maples that will fall on my house one day? not so much

[regal umbra]

Ah yes I love the massive log

That should be a feature

trust me

[queen oasis]

it's going to be

[regal umbra]

Make it like a 5% chance of happening lmao

And don't include it in the description

Just watch people go crazy on bug reports over it

[queen oasis]

I'm bug report adverse

[regal umbra]

Bro is gonna be like

"Yo this is happening with your mod"

Too bad can't fix it

[true nova]

You need to redo the script for them and point to your new textures in it

[queen oasis]

someone has a mod with 300k subs now, and asked if they should require my mod or if they could adapt it for their mod. bruh, adapt it. I don't want to deal with the bug reports

[regal umbra]

Well I would adapt mine, if the owner of RV Interiors actually replied back, I even proposed a collab 💀

So for now it's a requirement

[true nova]

Idk how ppl get that much on a single mod. I have that much across all my mods and they're awesome obv

[regal umbra]

Already made a FAQ and everything expecting people to go, can you add these interiors? Straight up nah that's not my mod

[muted root]

I am a bit confused
But the new textures I placed are in the same folder with same name and not a texturepack toggle from mod menu
are there any sources I could read/watch about that?

[regal umbra]

Ig just have a mod become part of a trend

Once the big youtubers start showcasing it, or adding it to their serie's collections

[queen oasis]

they're all awesome! my biggun has 13k and that's plenty enough

[regal umbra]

That's how you get 300k subs

[true nova]

I've had 2 of my mods featured by atomic duck. Only like 21k between them

[queen oasis]

still a little scaling issue. wish I could just scale in one axis

[regal umbra]

I mean just look at this, if half of those collections are visible that's a lot of people

[true nova]

I hate model scaling, have fun resetting every load for a while

My best mods are b42 so that might be it

[regal umbra]

Have you seen Braven mods for example

[regal umbra]

Like I was saying the other day B42 is allowing a lot of newcomers to shine

Since not a lot of big mods have been ported

Kinda hard reseted the whole modding scene

[surreal pulsar]

If I got featured by atomic duck I’d say ‘bruv me? ru mad?’ Because I know there’d be so much people playing it and finding bugs

[bright fog]

I did get featured by Atomic Duck too tho my mod didn't explode this much

[regal umbra]

If you make a mod that is mostly for general use it's more likely you get featured by youtubers

If you make a very specific mod, its less likely

[true nova]

Almost 4mil... id turn everything off

[bright fog]

He did say he wouldn't feature my most famous mod bcs "it's the same as another mod" 💀

[surreal pulsar]

yeah I’m not expecting much from my mods

Few downloads, few positive comments and some bug reports

[regal umbra]

Tbf my idea towards mod making is whatever contributes best to the community

and obviously i gotta like it lmao

[bright fog]

Just make mods you have mod creating

[true nova]

I just make things I like to use if other ppl like it that's cool too

[regal umbra]

For example my nomad mod, I love nomad runs, and Monkey's RV spawn is not in B42 so essentially I helped contribute by providing a way to have easy nomad runs again

Otherwise players would have to get the RV interiors mod, use debug to spawn an RV or something, then have a whole run etc..

[surreal pulsar]

Just checking are clothes like t shirts textures?

This may be a modelling question

[regal umbra]

For now I'll keep developing this one, then whenever I'm done with it, idk I'll see what I will make lmao

[regal umbra]

I think it can be both

lmao

not really sure

[surreal pulsar]

Because my jacket started levitating

[true nova]

Clothes are a model with a texture and have xml files to define position and such

[regal umbra]

Yeah its a model then they have textures

[surreal pulsar]

Are there any shirts that are just skinned?

[small topaz]

@surreal pulsar some clothing are just texture as tshirts, some are texture + 3d model

[surreal pulsar]

Thanks

[regal umbra]

Yeah the skinned ones look janky af tho

[queen oasis]

my best mod was released for 41 on Dec 8th and then 42 dropped like a week later so I had to redo it

[regal umbra]

For example the first one is a texture only you can see how janky it's

The second is a model

[true nova]

What do you mean ? You made a mod with them in the media folder or that you replaced the textures in the vanilla files?

[surreal pulsar]

Yeah I’m just hoping this mod works atp without you having to run naked

[muted root]

I replaced the vanilla files in ProjectZomboid\media\textures
However the new textures don't appear and instead the vanilla ones are still used
tried to restart and even reinstall the game

[regal umbra]

Replacing vanilla files tho

Ouch

[true nova]

That should work technically, though only really useful for yourself

[small topaz]

after restarting, the new textures should be loaded when placed at the correct location. are you sure you replaced the correct textures? to see the actual texture which is used by a clothing item, you have to check the clothing item's xml file

[muted root]

well, I wasn't trying to make a public mod, at least not yet

[surreal pulsar]

guys

my mod looks terrifying with the bicycles! Mod

[muted root]

I edited Shirt_ParkRanger.png, PoliceHatRanger.png and Trouser_ParkRanger.png in media/textures
then restarted the game, but there were no changes

[surreal pulsar]

the characters look like strech armstrong 😭😭

[regal umbra]

Not something I'd advise. I mean a single mistake and you corrupt the only file you have of the game, unless you do backups for every file you replace that is

[small topaz]

you may need to make sure these textures really belong to the clothing item you would like to change which can only be seen in the clothing item's xml file. vanilla texture management can be a bit confusing sometimes due to naming conventions and stuff. not sure if it solves your problem but I would definitely give it a try.

[muted root]

this indeed helped, many thanks
the shirt texture was in media\textures\Clothes\Shirt_Tshirt_Textures instead
But that makes me ask, then what does the texture in the media/textures is for?

[small topaz]

the texture pngs sometimes do belong to a clothing item which one wouldn't expect given the naming of the texture and the items. that's just how the vanilla game files are set up...

a lot of those things are due to the fact that the game is quite long in development and has seen a lot of updates and changes. so not everything is organized in the most optimal way

[surreal pulsar]

Do the textures scale with the model

[muted root]

I mean both Shirt_Ranger.png and Shirt_ParkRanger.png sound like the item I was looking to change
but only changing the first one did it change the actual texture

[surreal pulsar]

So if the character was another size it’d be that size

[queen oasis]

me: just make a model, it's not that difficult

[surreal pulsar]

yeah I could lift that

only 10000.0 encumbrance

[queen oasis]

I don't remember how to do the reset or normalize thing or whatever. better get to reading

[surreal pulsar]

level up your axe skill

trust me

[queen oasis]

surprised I still had blender installed. I don't like it

I am become the Axe Man

[surreal pulsar]

Too much clutter

All I need in a model thing is a texture adder a size function and some squares

[queen oasis]

and now I need to spiff up the uv I guess. that's a future me problem tho

might have janked the extrude too. idk

[bright fog]

Did you just stretched the model on the tips instead of scaling it on the axis ? 😂

[queen oasis]

I'm a blender wizard

extruded the hell out of those faces

[bright fog]

Yea that's what I thought 💀

[queen oasis]

off to figure out which of the 69,420 buttons in blender scales on an axis

that was suprisingly quick

[bright fog]

S

[queen oasis]

not great, but better. thanks for the tip!

[bright fog]

Press S then press two times either x y or z

To resize on the object referential

[bright fog]

Left looks ok but right looks weird ?

[queen oasis]

stretching the texture too much maybe. idk a thing about modeling

[bright fog]

Tbf it looks ok, to improve it you'd have to go into texturing and modifying the UV map

Which uh, you could try but if you don't have much experience in Blender that might be hard

[surreal pulsar]

After a hour of tinkering I got the mesh to work

Praying everything else works

https://tenor.com/view/metin2-servers-are-being-fixed-server-down-metin2-metin2-servers-down-metin2-fix-servers-metin2-praying-for-servers-gif-14381007301629613734

[queen oasis]

I think I did ok a couple years back with my metal detector although it was smallish so you couldn't tell it looked like a 4 year old made it

me? responding to the wrong thing? never

[small topaz]

Did they made a change to B42 so that players do not start with the building key of their starter house anymore???

[bleak remnant]

hey

can you guys help me?

i made a fbx zombi and i am having problems parenting it's bones properly

this is a normal file

i can move it's bones properly

now, this is my file

i used the blender parent system to make it work, you move an arm and it moves both

the other side doesn't work at all

not only that, when it is in game, it works horribly

what is the proper way of doing this?

[small topaz]

There is somewhere a bone structure template which you can use for making pz character models. Here is how I usually do it: In Object Mode, while holding shift, first select your character model and second select the bone structure. (The latter can be done by clicking on a single bone). Then click Object -> Parent -> Armature Deform With Automatic Weights. (This will bring the character into the hierachy of the bone structure. Check the Scene Collection to see whether it worked properly.)

[bright fog]

Also your question is literally meant to be inside #modeling

[bleak remnant]

I am sorry, i am new to the server and i was looking previous conversations about this and used the same chat

won't happen again

[surreal pulsar]

so yeah didn’t work

[bright fog]

Np I'm not a moderator nor is that important, but when you start pressing people it doesn't look good for you and people will tend to not help you in the contrary

[surreal pulsar]

have no idea what went wrong

[bleak remnant]

got it

[regal umbra]

Me whenever I try to add anything new. Spend hours doing it and pray that when I start a new character I don't see the evil Error popup

[bright fog]

As for your specific question I don't have an answer sadly, but yea try asking in #modeling you'll get better chances, and alternatively you can try the modding Discord in the animation channel

[bleak remnant]

i am kinda frustaded since i am working on something big for almost 3 months at this point

so i am in a rush, kinda

[bright fog]

Don't rush yourself, if you don't enjoy it, don't put pressure on yourself for it, it will only disgust you more of it

[bleak remnant]

i enjoy the processes, i just hate blender

[bright fog]

What are you trying to do ?

You mentioned you made a fbx zombie

[bleak remnant]

i m porting the whole necroa virus to zomboid

i am now working on the evolution system

[bright fog]

What's necroa virus ?

[bleak remnant]

where the zombies gets more fucked up over the perks you got

from plague inc

[bright fog]

I see

[bleak remnant]

i will have to modify the java files to make zombies change the fbx in game

and i will have to make 6 more

so yah

[bright fog]

Not necessarily

[bleak remnant]

what do you mean?

[regal umbra]

Now thinking of it, World war Z zombies in PZ would be crazy

[bright fog]

You can make zombies have custom models

[bright fog]

Book WWZ ?

[bleak remnant]

it will works something like that, but belive me, better

[bright fog]

You can make zombies have custom models by using clothings

That's what I did in my own mods and that's what every custom zombie mods do

[bleak remnant]

i know, but can you make them change it's fbx files midgame?

[bright fog]

You can change their clothing, so you can change their model

[regal umbra]

nah the movie ones

[bleak remnant]

is that so, tell me more

[bright fog]

However the clothing will clip through models that are bigger than them

You can't do anything about that even with the Java

You'd need clothing varients which are larger or adapted

But you can also just not give a shit based on what you want. That's personally what I went with in my mod
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3409434765

[regal umbra]

Aren't the book ones the slow zombies (I never read the book, forgive my lack of culture lmao)

[bright fog]

Yes I tihnk so

[bleak remnant]

now way you are the guy who made this

[bright fog]

I mean that's just sprinting zombies

[regal umbra]

Kinda, I mean in the movie they also climb, pile on each other, go over walls

[bright fog]

Yes tho I didn't make the clicker model nor did I do the parenting of the armature to it, same for the Bloater which I only did the texture for

[bright fog]

The piling you can't do that, climbing walls there's mods that do that

[regal umbra]

Imagine you having a base in louisville skyscrapers and a bunch of zombies just pile up to the roof lmao

[bleak remnant]

you have no clue how much you helped me only by telling me that you don't need to modify the java files

[bright fog]

Also that one adds deformed zombies
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3042358369

[bleak remnant]

can i add you to my friends, i feel like i can learn from you

[bright fog]

It's route you can go but yea not usually the go to for custom zombies

[bleak remnant]

what if i need to make all the base zombies uses a model?

[bright fog]

I hang around here and in the modding Discord so feel free to ask questions here or there, I'm fairly active (tho might become a bit less in a week)

[bright fog]

First off, which game version you plan this for ?

[bleak remnant]

b42

[bright fog]

Makes things easier

The method I used to "dress up" my zombies with their models was to set their item visuals

Which basically sets their current visible clothings

And in B42 I made a custom event which detects when to set the visuals for zombies

[bleak remnant]

so you change the whole model

[bright fog]

So you can simply dress up zombies during this custom event

[bright fog]

Not exactly the model

It's a costume basically

[bleak remnant]

oh... i see

[bright fog]

So like my Clicker is just a big huge clothing

It hides the vanilla model, and takes its place basically

[surreal pulsar]

Can you check over my mod files? I can’t find the problem at all and I can’t find what seems to be the problem

[bleak remnant]

i am aiming for something else, i want to change the base model zombies use and make them "evolve" over time by changing them mid game with more than one fbx if you know what i mean

[regal umbra]

If you uploaded I could take a look yea

[bright fog]

And you can do that yes

[bleak remnant]

i was reverse engineering dynamic body shape sinc it kinda do something similar

[bright fog]

Don't go that route

[bleak remnant]

Hell yeh

[bleak remnant]

is reverse engineering bad?

[bright fog]

No that's fine

But don't go dynamic body's way of doing it

[bleak remnant]

what is wrong with that?

[bright fog]

You set the zombie visuals when it spawns in with the first form then you can change the current costume model to a different one anytime you want

Like if the zombie gets attacked it transforms, idk the details of how that virus works so that's you to know what you need here

[bright fog]

Bcs you don't have to use Java modding here

I mean unless the current methods I described are too limited for you and to that I tell you to join the modding Discord and join the Leaf discussion which provides Java modding solutions

[bleak remnant]

i see, to be honest, i tried looking online and using chat gpt to find mods that do something similar, but they don't usualy change the base models for all the zombies

[bright fog]

Obscure zombies does it

[bleak remnant]

oh... do you have a link?

[bright fog]

They don't change the character model

[bright fog]

Up in the convo

I sent it

They don't change the character model in itself

They layer a clothing which hides the character model and acts as the new character model

[surreal pulsar]

Just updated so the mod shows up and the trait does but the actual mesh and debuffs don’t appear

[bright fog]

It's what I've been describing you, and it works well. The main limitation is that clothings which are layered on the character texture won't appear on the custom fully body models

[bleak remnant]

i have reverse engineered it as well, that is what was in my mind when i saw it the first time

[regal umbra]

Are you getting any errors?

[bleak remnant]

yeah, and that is the problem. as you can see in my print, i only change the face, and it is fine for me since i can do the texture without being too invasive

so

would a cloth for the face work?

[bright fog]

Definitely

You can just do a head replacement

[surreal pulsar]

Yes one before the start of the game

[small topaz]

Did they somehow randomize the presence of a key for the starter house on spawn??

[bright fog]

I think so yea ?

[regal umbra]

Hm, let me launch my game see if I can see anything with your mod

[bright fog]

Was already like that no ?

[surreal pulsar]

Also it crashes with clothes so set them all to none

[bleak remnant]

oh... i see. I will try that way. one more thing, do you know how the game select the 3d file to use on the zombie?

[surreal pulsar]

At least for me

[bleak remnant]

does it uses x or fbx?

[bright fog]

fbx

wait sorry

I didn't read

It uses both

But use fbx

In your case

See https://pzwiki.net/wiki/File_formats#Modeling_and_animation_formats

[bleak remnant]

and where i can find the file that it makes the zombie chose the model? like, "this zombie will use a female body and this one a male"

because that way i could just replace the file

[bright fog]

You need to forget about modifying the character model here

[bleak remnant]

let me save this

[bright fog]

The method I described absolutely does no use this

[bright fog]

You'd have to do a fully body replacement and you can only do a single one

[bleak remnant]

i can tell

[bright fog]

And idk if the player and zombies use the same model ref or not

If so you can't do that

[bleak remnant]

that is why i would have to use the java side of the game

[bright fog]

:|

Dude I've been telling you about that method every zombie mods use and you're still fixating on using Java and modifying the character model

[bleak remnant]

not only that would be a problem, but the same way with sprinters, i would have to update the zombies mid game

[regal umbra]

Well this line you can't have the "and" in between

[bleak remnant]

the clothes one right? yeah, i know, i will go that way from now on

[surreal pulsar]

oh

[bleak remnant]

yo, one last thing and i will not take more of your time

[regal umbra]

And I'm also getting an Object tried to call nil

[bleak remnant]

the textures, it usually choses the texture by going a certain way, right? like placing them on something like common\media\textures\body.

i can make the game read it from somewhere else? since i will have to make 3 diferent sets of textures

[bright fog]

Body textures you mean ?

You can have custom ones and load them in on the zombie

[bronze yoke]

wasn't random in b41, pretty sure it is now

you always got one in b41, it was pretty silly really 😅

[bright fog]

Ah no in B41 you spawned with it yea

[bleak remnant]

yes, i know, but, what if i need to put more than the necessary?

[bright fog]

Then just add new ones

Like I said, you have custom ones and load them in on the zombie

No need to replace existing ones

[bleak remnant]

is there a mod that do something similar?

[bright fog]

Hmm I have nothing that comes to my mind

[bleak remnant]

Ok, thanks, you have no clue how much you helped me here.

[bright fog]

I wanted to do it in TLOU Infected but abandoned the mod before I could

You can look into Bandits to see how he sets the human texture on the zombies

[bleak remnant]

oh, yeah, that one. thanks.

[regal umbra]

Am I blind, or am I just sleepy, @bright fog can you see what @surreal pulsar is trying to call here? because I'm getting Object tried to call Nil at line 16

local function applyFeatherweight(player)
    if player:HasTrait("Featherweight") then <------- This line
        -- Remove all clothing first
        player:getInventory():clear()
        player:getClothingItem_Back() 
        player:removeWornItem(player:getClothingItem_Back())

        -- Equip socks only
        for _, itemType in ipairs(FeatherweightTrait.RestrictedClothes) do
            local item = player:getInventory():AddItem(itemType)
            if item then
                player:setClothingItem(item:getBodyLocation(), item)
            end
        end

        -- Restrict hair
        local gender = player:isFemale() and "Female" or "Male"
        local allowed = FeatherweightTrait.AllowedHair[gender]
        if allowed and #allowed > 0 then
            local choice = ZombRand(#allowed) + 1
            player:getHumanVisual():setHairModel(allowed[choice])
            player:resetModel()
        end
    end
end

Events.OnCreatePlayer.Add(applyFeatherweight)

[bright fog]

Format it with Lua please

[regal umbra]

whats the code again for lua formatting in discord

just lua?

[bright fog]

Yea

[regal umbra]

local function applyFeatherweight(player)
    if player:HasTrait("Featherweight") then --Line 16
        -- Remove all clothing first
        player:getInventory():clear()
        player:getClothingItem_Back() 
        player:removeWornItem(player:getClothingItem_Back())

        -- Equip socks only
        for _, itemType in ipairs(FeatherweightTrait.RestrictedClothes) do
            local item = player:getInventory():AddItem(itemType)
            if item then
                player:setClothingItem(item:getBodyLocation(), item)
            end
        end

        -- Restrict hair
        local gender = player:isFemale() and "Female" or "Male"
        local allowed = FeatherweightTrait.AllowedHair[gender]
        if allowed and #allowed > 0 then
            local choice = ZombRand(#allowed) + 1
            player:getHumanVisual():setHairModel(allowed[choice])
            player:resetModel()
        end
    end
end

Events.OnCreatePlayer.Add(applyFeatherweight)

[bright fog]

thx

Can you send the full error stacktrace ?

[regal umbra]

ye

STACK TRACE
-----------------------------------------
function: applyFeatherweight -- file: FeatherweightTrait.lua line # 16 | MOD: Featherweight Trait Mod (B42)

LOG  : General      f:0, t:1755468237681> Object tried to call nil in applyFeatherweight
ERROR: General      f:0, t:1755468237681> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown
    java.lang.RuntimeException: Object tried to call nil in applyFeatherweight at KahluaUtil.fail(KahluaUtil.java:101).
    Stack trace:
        se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaUtil.fail(KahluaUtil.java:101)
        se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.luaMainloop(KahluaThread.java:817)
        se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.call(KahluaThread.java:174)
        se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.pcall(KahluaThread.java:1826)
        se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.pcallvoid(KahluaThread.java:1653)
        se.krka.kahlua.integration.LuaCaller.pcallvoid(LuaCaller.java:66)
        se.krka.kahlua.integration.LuaCaller.protectedCallVoid(LuaCaller.java:139)
        zombie.Lua.Event.trigger(Event.java:72)
        zombie.Lua.LuaEventManager.triggerEvent(LuaEventManager.java:364)
        zombie.gameStates.GameLoadingState.exit(GameLoadingState.java:504)
        zombie.gameStates.GameStateMachine.update(GameStateMachine.java:91)
        zombie.GameWindow.logic(GameWindow.java:382)
        zombie.GameWindow.frameStep(GameWindow.java:916)
        zombie.GameWindow.mainThreadStep(GameWindow.java:642)
        zombie.MainThread.mainLoop(MainThread.java:76)
        java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
LOG  : General      f:0, t:1755468237682> -----------------------------------------
STACK TRACE
-----------------------------------------
function: applyFeatherweight -- file: FeatherweightTrait.lua line # 16 | MOD: Featherweight Trait Mod (B42)

[bright fog]

I don't see anything weird in the code

HasTrait does exist

[surreal pulsar]

Could it be a formatting issue?

[regal umbra]

at first they had an "and" between

player:getClothingItem_Back()
player:removeWornItem(player:getClothingItem_Back())

as in player:getClothingItem_Back() and player:removeWornItem(player:getClothingItem_Back())

but I fixed that by just removing it, then i created the character spawned and it threw that error

[bright fog]

No it wouldn't run at all

[surreal pulsar]

I don’t think it could actually probs

[surreal pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-i-like-your-funny-words-magic-man-gif-12132376810128560925

seriously I can’t see any formatting errors

[small topaz]

local function OnCreatePlayer(playerNum, player)
-- your code here
end

[bright fog]

And you're sure if player:HasTrait("Featherweight") then --Line 16 is the line 16 ?

[bright fog]

Oh

I didn't bother to check

[small topaz]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/OnCreatePlayer

[bright fog]

I did think about it but remembered it only giving IsoPlayer

[small topaz]

maybe they changed that recently??

[regal umbra]

Oh yeah

I totally missed that

lmao

[bright fog]

No not recently no

[surreal pulsar]

What was it?

[bright fog]

Was already like that in B41

https://pzwiki.net/w/index.php?title=OnCreatePlayer&oldid=527895

[regal umbra]

Didn't even really bother to check

[surreal pulsar]

I may have not referenced the mesh correctly

[bright fog]

Was the event arguments

[surreal pulsar]

Oh

So is there anything in the code I need to change?

[bright fog]

Yes

[bright fog]

Read the wiki page here

[surreal pulsar]

So that won’t work right?

Will I need to find an alternative

[bright fog]

No ?

It will work ?

[surreal pulsar]

Oh

[bright fog]

The arguments are wrong in your function

the first arg is an ID

the second is IsoPlayer

[regal umbra]

No you need a local function onPlayerCreated to pass the arguments in Events.OnCreatePlayer.Add(onPlayerCreated)

Essentially

[bright fog]

Not at all

That's not linked to that

[regal umbra]

he can just pass them through the events?

[bright fog]

The name of the function really doesn't do anything

It's just an ID to reference the function

The function definition is not impacted by the name itself

The problem are the arguments of the function, that's it

[regal umbra]

oh yeah i see it now lol, playerIndex, player

[bright fog]

local function applyFeatherweight(player)

to

local function applyFeatherweight(playernum,player)

[regal umbra]

Man i really need to go sleep 💀

Brain not braining anymore

Alright yeah, I'm going off, good night y'all

[small topaz]

Also, did they change things so that players can always lock a door from inside, even if they have no key for the building?

[surreal pulsar]

I can’t find this line anywhere

[bright fog]

this

[pliant cypress]

OK so I wanna make a shield mod what do I need to do to start it

[bright fog]

@small topaz randomly found you on the forums with the same problem as I'm currently have but back then
https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/49825-4166-linux-version-stays-under-the-taskbar-when-on-borderless-windowed-mode/

borderless windowed mode renders the taskbar in front of the game

Do you remember if you fixed it, how you did it ?

[small topaz]

Can you try wmctrl -r "Project Zomboid" -b add,fullscreen in your terminal while game is running? Iirc, that fixed it for me.

and you might need smth like sudo dnf install wmctrl in case you don't have it installed

[bright fog]

I'll try thx

Lol it made my Discord full screen 😂

I think it detected Discord instead of pz due to the app name lol

[small topaz]

yes! the wmctrl gave me some weird problems too when discord is opended in the background via firefox!

[bright fog]

I'll try closing Discord wait

[small topaz]

but iirc, that was really some discord specific thing. so try to close discord or make it so that it is not the active window in your browser

[small topaz]

yep

[bright fog]

Doesn't seem to do it

Tho it's not giving out any error or anything sooooo

[small topaz]

hmm. kk. so for me, the fix was on fedora. not sure how it behaves on other distros

[bright fog]

I'm on Linux Mint

But that makes the Window properly borderless windowed ?

I'll dig a bit more

Hmm yea wmctrl doesn't seem to anything on the PZ window

[small topaz]

Hmm. I just tried this on Linux Mint right at the moment and it works perfectly well for me! (I am on Mint too atm)

so you use borderless window in the game settings?

[bright fog]

That's weird

You're not using proton right ?

And you're borderless windowed ?

[small topaz]

I play native linux version. With borderless window, I can hide the sidepanels by executing wmctrl -r "Project Zomboid" -b add,fullscreen while game is running.

[bright fog]

I'll close pz and discord

then launch pz

And try running it

Tho I also tried to do with the window id by listing them with wmctrl -l and it didn't work either

[small topaz]

and wait long enough until the game is fully loaded

[bright fog]

I'm on the main menu when I do it

Hmmmm

Not doing it

[small topaz]

maybe your game process is not called "Project Zomboid"??

[bright fog]

It is

At least -l lists it as is

[surreal pulsar]

Doggy

[surreal pulsar]

Do you remember that error thing in my script

[bright fog]

yea

[surreal pulsar]

I’ve searched through it and still can’t find it

That line

[bright fog]

You're on which version of Linux Mint ?

[small topaz]

Linux Mint 22.1 Cinnamon

[bright fog]

Hmm same

[small topaz]

that's weird

[bright fog]

You're using launch arguments ?

[small topaz]

I tried in debug mode as well as in normal mode (arguments). both works for me. and I am an on b42 (not b41)

[bright fog]

Yea B42 me too

A solution is having the panel in hiding mode

Are you using any themes ?

I'll try reinstalling the game I think

[surreal pulsar]

What file is it again?

The main one or the trait one

[bright fog]

this

[small topaz]

Yes, Mint-X-Orange for folders and a customized version of Mint-Y-Dark for the desktop.

btw here is my console set up under which it works for me

0x02a00003  0 MS-7A38 Desktop
0x02e0002c  0 MS-7A38 YouTube — Mozilla Firefox
0x05200034  0 MS-7A38 Steam
0x05e00007  0 MS-7A38 Project Zomboid
0x06200006  0 MS-7A38 username@MS-7A38: ~
username@MS-7A38:~$ wmctrl -r "Project Zomboid" -b add,fullscreen```

[surreal pulsar]

And change it to the bottom one?

[bright fog]

yea

[bright fog]

verbose on the command returns this

wmctrl -v -r "Project Zomboid" -b add,fullscreen envir_utf8: 1 Invalid type of WM_NAME property. Invalid type of WM_NAME property. Invalid type of WM_NAME property. Invalid type of WM_NAME property. Invalid type of WM_NAME property. Using window: 0x09e00007 State 1: _NET_WM_STATE_FULLSCREEN

I'll try reinstalling bcs I did some switch between proton and not proton, so who knows

[small topaz]

@bright fog I also highly customized my panel arrangement (I have one new panel on the side and moved the bottom panel to the top of the screen)

[bright fog]

What does it look like ?

[small topaz]

cannot say anything about your verbose output

[bright fog]

I'm personally very used to the bottom panel haha

[bright fog]

Yea np lol

[surreal pulsar]

The only I can find that is similar says apply on create

[bright fog]

Hmm

[small topaz]

but I don't think that panel arrangement is an issue here

[bright fog]

Yea I'd be surprised

Tho I do have cases of my panels on my second screen just not launching on boot, tho idk how relevant it would be to the issue here

I'm not a fan of the top panels bcs I'm used to easily access the minimize, fullscreen and quit buttons of windows but putting my screen on the top limit, probably too used to windows I suppose

[small topaz]

so I currently just play always in fullscreen and then just alt+tab to minimize the game. no need of wmctrl then...

[bright fog]

Doing that the game screen flickers

When modding that's horrible

It takes ages to load

[small topaz]

if you have a second screen, maybe this is messing things up

yeah, I have that flickering but only once for a short period after the game booted. still hope they fix it sometime

[bright fog]

Maybe yea

I suppose that's my solution here

[small topaz]

better than nothing. but for a normal playthrough, it could still be annoying I guess...

[bright fog]

I don't play the game these days lmao

One issue tho is that game doesn't load workshop mods

Are you familiar with that ?

Ah wait I'm an idiot it's redownloading them

[small topaz]

no, that's nothing I ever experienced. there may be some workshop mods with bad naming conventions which can give problems on linux (due to case sensitivity). but apart from that, everything works fine for me here

[bright fog]

Yea I already had cases of mod causing issues with mod.info for example

But no it's just downloading the mods rn haha

[willow tulip]

The fact we have one OS with case sensative file names and another without, each running half the computers on earth is crazy to me 😛

You can always tell the windows developers apart too, because their work constantly fails automated tests on linux for stuff like, wrong case in an #include <> directive.

I wonder if anyone has ever made a hack to force windows to be case sensative for filenames? lol, I wonder if windows can even boot if you did that.

[surreal pulsar]

If I can’t make project junoid I WILL make cookie

[bronze yoke]

<@&671452400221159444>

[left plank]

danke

[shy mantle]

I outsmarted the hardcoded traffic jams by using the burnt vehicles as a vehicle zone, problem solved

[queen oasis]

local IsoTree_WeaponHit = {}
function IsoTree_WeaponHit.GetClass()
    local class, methodName = IsoTree.class, "WeaponHit"

we don't need no stinkin javas

I do need some stinkin animations, though

if I were smart, I would figure out how to line these logs up all nice and tidy

[subtle cypress]

is it not possible to create new items in a mod's items.txt or modify displaynames through a script? i can change other parameters just fine, but there's just something about displaynames.

[drifting ore]

They are most likely translated

In item name EN, something like that, in the shared lua folder you will find all translations

[drifting ore]

If it is literally named items.txt I would rename the file too

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Translations#Translation_types

[subtle cypress]

its not named items.txt, i already learned the issues that causes the hard way

to clarify im trying to alter an items name based on a sandbox defined dynamic name

[drifting ore]

item:setDisplayName(name)

[subtle cypress]

currently trying it, not going well yet, i forgot to clarify im b41 here if tht mattered

[subtle cypress]

holy fu*** thank you

[drifting ore]

https://zomboid-javadoc.com/41.78/

[shy mantle]

epic, thoughts?

https://tenor.com/view/pc-exploding-minecraft-rtx-gif-25263106

[true nova]

i like how this looks. there would be some of this in louisville if zombies started during rush hour

[bright fog]

Don't do that

Instead modify the item's entry in the translation file

Ah wait you want to use sandbox options

Ok yea I guess use that but make sure to use translation keys to not limit people that might want to translate your mod

[daring bough]

1fps

[ancient grail]

@willow tulip

#1318920979581501502 message

about this i believe you can hide recipes via lua
but not edit parts of it like you could with items

[willow tulip]

You could in B41. Not so in B42

I found the mod that did it, while its out for B42.. it does nothing in B42 😛

[ancient grail]

i see

i wish we can fetch any script properties

[willow tulip]

at best you can set a recipe as 'unlearned' and have no way to learn it, but thats.. so meh

and leaves it visible if you have 'see all recipes' enabled

[ancient grail]

right right
but then its still there for learned all

[willow tulip]

yea

and I don't wanna override crafting UI's just to read recipes moddata and blahblah.

[cursive atlas]

Was just thinking it would be neat to have a "Zombie virus makes gasoline super explosive" challenge mod. Like, change it so 90% of spawned cars become burnt out wrecks. Make half of the remianing have no gas and destroyed tanks / engines (to simulate that they were nearly empty when the exploding was going on). The other half can be fully intact but always have fully empty tanks since the only way they survived was not having any gas to explode. Replace all the gas pumps with a circle of burned rubble. Add some tech to synthesize ethanol & convert a car to run on it. Thus making cars be a much more end game item than even the hardes current vanilla settings.

[small topaz]

Hi! Have an opinion question to the other modders here: What do you think about making a post about your mods on the Zomboid reddit to make them more visible? I have some mods which have been quite popular during the old days of B41. I updated some of them to B42 but since your updated mods are not shown in the steam workshop's "new mods section", the updated mods may be completely invisible to new players which started playing the game when B42 dropped.

So what do you think about this? Reasonable (in case you don't spam the reddit with several posts ofc) or unnecessary or even annoying?

[bright fog]

Idk if the reddit allows posts for ads about all your mods. That's also why we made supportive saturday on the modding DIscord

So modders can showcase their mods and other servers that follow the sup sat channel will receive the same showcases

[small topaz]

My plan is to ask the reddit moderators before I post and I only plan to make one single post containing all information about my mods. Thing is that I occasionally see some other modders posting about their work on reddit, so I guess it is not generally forbidden.

Never heard of that "supportive saturday"?? Is it here on the zomboid discord?

[bright fog]

In the modding Discord

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Unofficial_Modding_Discord

[molten grail]

I just checked the subreddit's rules section, and there is nothing about advertising mods (or banning said advertising). They do have a rule about server advertisement, so it may be best to keep it similar in terms of posting frequency (twice in 30 days)

[small topaz]

thanks for the link! I'll join!

hmmm... a rule of the modding discord:

"No age-restricted ... content. This includes text, images, or links featuring nudity..."

That may already blacklist my most popular mod lol 😅

[bright fog]

Ah I see the mod you're talking about I think

You can share your other mods at least

[small topaz]

Yeah, my professions mod which I am currently updating may also be worthwhile talking about!

[queen oasis]

I'm trying to change the mesh for the "Base.Log" and my way is a no go. Is there a different/correct way to change it?

this is the result of what I tried above

[tranquil kindle]

Doesn't console say anything about not being able to load mesh?

[queen oasis]

I'll look again

I must've missed it first time through. yep, Failed to load asset: AssetPath{ "null" }

[tranquil kindle]

So yeah... the model is either path is wrong OR maybe you have empty fbx file?

[queen oasis]

I'm just a goober. I had the wrong world model in the item

[bright fog]

idk if you can define multiple modules in a single file

[queen oasis]

it appears to be working but I'll keep checking for weirdness

[bright fog]

👌

[regal umbra]

Well I advertised my mod on reddit, haven't really been contacted by the mods yet

But should be okay since there's no actual rule against it

I think as long you don't daily spam it should be okay

Because they do allow advertising,

Server advertisements or posts otherwise extenuating the features of a server or event should be posted no more than twice per 30 days.

We welcome and support our Youtube / Twitch / Lets Play members.

We ask that only one video be posted every 24 hours and a maximum of three videos be posted every 7 days.

Livestreams are the exception to this. They can be posted when you go live, so long as they involve PZ.

So I assume that it's fine as long it's within reason

[queen oasis]

me, I am error

[small topaz]

Thanks for your opinion! Yeah... I also guess if you don't spam and just be honest and relaxed about your intentions, there shouldn't be a huge problem.

[tranquil kindle]

Why i got a feeling you're missing coma somewhere...

[queen oasis]

it was was more obvious than that

I tried to reference an item that didn't exist in a recipe

trying to figure out how search focus works now. ie Log has a Firewood search focus

I see. stuff it in a table

easy enough

[cobalt thistle]

What does an animation need to be registered in the animation viewer?

[bright fog]

Be in the anim_X folder

or anims_X I don't remember

And be properly exported

[cobalt thistle]

Does the xml play a part in it showing up in the animation viewer? It seems to work if I copy it over to anims_X\Kate but not anims_X\Bob

[bright fog]

Nop, the animation should still show up without an AnimNode

[bright fog]

Ah yes I forgot there's subfolders now and it matters I believe

Actually maybe it always did I don't remember sorry

I suggest you check the animation guide, might give you some info on that

[cobalt thistle]

Haha no worries! I'll keep playing around with it

[queen oasis]

so the game absolutely hates trying to overwrite a craftRecipe that exists. I don't see a way to change the output item quantity through code either...

[true nova]

look at ISHandcraftAction. you should be able to read the recipe being performed and insert results you want in complete

[umbral pelican]

On B41, trying to add what i thought was a simple 3d item to the world, but I cannot get it to appear in the mod list to test (It's in projectzomboid\mods)

[true nova]

this might be tied to entity crafting but i can't tell

[true nova]

what is your folder structure? in the mods folder it is modfolder -> media/modinfo

[bronze yoke]

mod.info should be in the root mod folder, not media

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_structure

[regal umbra]

I have a legit question, so I got some people bug reporting, well bugs related to the mod I use as a requirement, turns out apparently you now can't enter a lot of RV interiors. I already tried to contact the RV Interior's author, wondering if they were down for a collab. No replies, no answer, even sent a friend request, completely nothing. And I know they most likely saw it because the mod got updated the day after.

Recently they turned their comments off, now my question is.

Should I make a mod similar to it and use that as a requirement, so my other mod becomes completely functional, or should I wait?

[true nova]

i meant media and modinfo lol not /

[regal umbra]

Cuz like the other author, gave literally 0 means of communicating with them, the only hope was really workshop comments

Now not even that is available

[umbral pelican]

thanks so far, this hsould be right no?

[regal umbra]

And there's really no permissions policy set, so by default it takes the credit one as per Indie Stone's TOS

[true nova]

that looks good

[queen oasis]

if you already require it, build a compatibility layer on top of it

[regal umbra]

So in this situation, it would be fine if I go looking through their code and adapt to have a compability layer?

[umbral pelican]

thanks all, it shows up now 😄

[regal umbra]

I mean I already credit them in my mod's description

[tranquil kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/onepunchman-foundyou-betterversion-gif-21251132

[umbral pelican]

ah!

[tranquil kindle]

Sorry, i had to 😂

[umbral pelican]

how did you know it was me? it could have been any other random internet person happening to make a miku plush mod at this exact moment...

[queen oasis]

I'm not saying it's fine. I don't know which mod it is or if they have plans for something but I wouldn't have a problem with someone writing a layer on top of my mods to make it do what they wanted

don't change my code, tho, foo

[regal umbra]

RV Interiors for build 42, which I mean is already a ported version from Build 41 by another creator

[bronze yoke]

the main thing to worry about is if you do make your own you'll probably be hassled with compatibility between the two forever

that's a pretty popular mod

[regal umbra]

True

But yeah my mod becomes pretty unfunctional if the other creator goes silent, which apparently they did

[bronze yoke]

what do you use it for exactly?

[regal umbra]

Well the whole RV interiors portion of it

My mod mainly spawns the RV's

[queen oasis]

it was just updated on the 15th?

[tranquil kindle]

That could be true... then i'd probably come up as a really strange person... but you did prove me right

[regal umbra]

I mean in a way of communicating with them mb

Before the 15th I tried to communicate, got 0 answers, then earlier today or maybe even yesterday they disabled comments

And I got a influx of people telling me how the mod is broken

I.e for example, sometimes you enter an interior, but can't leave. You have to debug out of it.

Other times the option doesn't even appear in the radial menu at all to actually enter the vehicle interior

I personally haven't really experienced any of that because I was mainly focused on debugging my mod. But I kind of kept up with RV's Interior's comments and saw a lot of people complaining about what I mentionned above, mainly after the 15th update

[queen oasis]

if you can fix it in your code by overriding their code, i would do it.

[regal umbra]

And I also see a lot of people complaining how every update of their mod, breaks their saves.

Not really sure what's causing that

I think it has to do with the map files

But yeah if anything kinda annoyed they disabled every way of communicating with them

[queen oasis]

They're living the dream

[bronze yoke]

i'd leave a notice saying that issues with the interior are nothing to do with your mod

[regal umbra]

Ah yes forgot you were bug report adverse lmao

[bronze yoke]

if it keeps going for a while i'd think about other options then

[regal umbra]

Yeah, I will see if they went completely silent or not

[queen oasis]

I'm only adverse when someone is reporting my mod doesn't work on 41 when it's explicit it's only for 42. Otherwise, I'm cool with it.

[true nova]

i like having my free bug testers, even if on average they are idiots

[regal umbra]

Man, your mod doesn't work with build 40

Should fix that

like asap

[queen oasis]

I'll get right on it

[regal umbra]

Funny enough I get a lot of people reporting incompability with cities spawns, when my mod literally has a spawn named Vanvival Start, Nomad Spawn

I really wonder, why vehicles spawn inside the house I spawned in when I totally ignore the custom spawn and clicked rosewood

🤔

[small topaz]

I don't know what is going on for me but somehow, B41 does not show the errors caused by my mod correctly in the console.txt anymore.
No indication of where exactly this error is coming from in my mod's code:

[bright fog]

Because those are specific errors

Cannot read field "MutuallyExclusive" because the return value of "java.util.LinkedHashMap.get(Object)" is null
at zombie.characters.traits.TraitFactory.setMutualExclusive(TraitFactory.java:34)

It's just some errors sometimes can't pick up where they come from

[bronze yoke]

the error happened in java, not lua

the java stack trace doesn't really know what the lua stack looks like

[small topaz]

must still somehow come from my mod...

[bronze yoke]

it does, it's just not one that can show a lua strack trace

[molten grail]

Does your mod add traits that are mutually exclusive with one another? Double check that you have the spelling correct if so

[bronze yoke]

it sounds like there's a reference to a trait that doesn't exist

and it's in an event callback somewhere

[small topaz]

yes it does. problem is that I have many line with "setMutuallyExclusive". so I have to check a lot lol😅

pbbly having to do some binary search or smth...

[bronze yoke]

swap the calls in for this and you'll get a more helpful error```lua
local function setMutuallyExclusive(a, b)
assert(TraitFactory.getTrait(a) ~= nil, "Trait " .. a .. " does not exist")
assert(TraitFactory.getTrait(b) ~= nil, "Trait " .. b .. " does not exist")
TraitFactory.setMutualExclusive(a, b)
end

[molten grail]

Tbh, that's why I test things incrementally. If something fails, I find out sooner than later

[small topaz]

just found it!

GENERAL WARNING: in B41 we have the trait "ThickSkinned" and "Thinskinned" (with a small "s" instead a large "S"). Must double check again but I think they renamed it to "ThinSkined" with "S" in B42...

[umbral pelican]

@tranquil kindle
I now have a renewed awe at modders. Thanks for the models 😉

[molten grail]

Thats awesome

[umbral pelican]

and it broke again... grrr

scale of the small model reset to tiny

[small topaz]

for me, print commands are somehow not written anymore in the console.txt after I downgraded my game from B41 to B42

EDIT: downgrade from B42 to B41

[bright fog]

downgraded from B41 to B42 ? 😅

[bronze yoke]

don't use the same cache directory for b41 and b42

their config files are not compatible and will cause issues like this

[small topaz]

so deleting my Zomboid folder may solve the issue?

[bronze yoke]

yeah

there's a specific file you can delete for this issue but i don't remember what it was

but sharing cache directories between the two versions is generally problematic

[umbral pelican]

if anyone wants the miku plushes mod I just pulled together, here ist he link: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3551703162

[queen oasis]

hmmm, think I found a way in to easily changing output amounts

getScriptManager():getCraftRecipe("SawLogs"):getOutputs():set(0,2)

needs more testing but that would be so nice

nope, dang

feels like it's still workable

it changes it but as soon as it reads the recipe again, poof

[bronze yoke]

this will literally never work 😅

getOutputs() is an arraylist of OutputScripts

[queen oasis]

is that rain I feel?

[bronze yoke]

when you do :set(0, 2) you replace the 0th output with... 2

like the entire outputscript, is now the number 2

that error is because the game is expecting an output script but getting a number instead

[queen oasis]

that uh, yea, something I didn't want to do

got excited there for a minute

[true nova]

you over here hogging all the 2s to yourself? not gonna want any 3s or 4s?

[queen oasis]

there is this

so I just need to cobble together an output script and stuff it in to the array

I've had a lot of coffee, so it might be possible

[queen oasis]

crazy idea, I'll let you know how it goes...

[queen oasis]

local function testes()
    local ogSaw = getScriptManager():getCraftRecipe("Base.SawLogs")
    local newSaw = getScriptManager():getCraftRecipe("JBLogging.JBSawLogs"):getOutputs():get(0)
    ogSaw:getOutputs():set(0, newSaw)
end
Events.OnGameStateEnter.Add(testes)```
has some issues but it works

waiting for someone to tell me the easy way to do this

feels like I'm trying to light a cigarette with a flame thrower

[bright fog]

👀

Nice

I suppose that's a good way to possibly manipulate recipes yea

Good idea

[queen oasis]

need to figure out how to remove a recipe now

[young trellis]

I'm trying to make an apiary for a mod and I'm looking for a solid tutorial on how to make a world object (The apiary itself) visible and usable. I currently have it so I can build using carpentry but when its built it's just a 2d object I can pick up and not the model or texture I have picked out.

[small topaz]

have you tried

recipe:setIsHidden(true)```
for me this worked in B41 but not sure about B42

[regal zealot]

how to change moodle sprites in b41?

I mean, is there a .pack file, how to change it?

[bright fog]

B42 has nothing to do with B41 recipes

[bright fog]

There are mods that do it, you might want to look into how they do it

[regal zealot]

a?

[bright fog]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3394987484

[humble stratus]

should getScriptingManager:getAllCraftRecipes() also return building recipes? cuz i cant find them there

[bright fog]

No idea

I doubt it ?

Since craft recipes are not building recipes

Also I'm not familiar with building recipes

[regal zealot]

uhm

thats not useful ngl

[regal zealot]

.

[humble stratus]

well in the entity scripts txt the're often labeled as CraftRecipes
i got about 1600 recipes but no walls, doors etc..
maybe there is no exposed function yet to get building recipes

[bright fog]

Yes it is ...

Look into their mod files and see how they do it

You got a literal example of how to do that here

And there's probably others too

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3419371266

Another one

[regal zealot]

yes

but

how to open

or

extract

.pack files?

[bright fog]

That wasn't your question, so that's different

You need to use the modding tools

[regal zealot]

how to change it into pictures

change the moodles

[bright fog]

It has an extract tool

[regal zealot]

where can I find it?

[bronze yoke]

got some bad news for you 😅

[bright fog]

[bronze yoke]

i'm not sure if they're stored separately or not but they are the exact same system

[bright fog]

Ik there was some shit with them using craftRecipe
Tho I would assume they separate them yea

[queen oasis]

I can't backdoor in to enabled or debugOnly. thought maybe I could set the needed research level to something stupid but I can't set the recipe to "need" to be researched.

[bright fog]

Getting started guide (WIP)

-# Went from a guide on setting up a programming environment to a full on getting started guide, so it's still wip, don't hesitate if you see something missing on the page
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Getting_started

Section regarding the mods or workshop folder for modding

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_structure#Mods_or_workshop_?

[bronze yoke]

these actually stop the script from loading entirely, so setting them after the fact doesn't really do anything

[queen oasis]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/NeedToBeLearn

should be "NeedTobeLearn" I think
idk, when I used needToBeLearn it crashed my game. Switching it to needTobeLearn let me start it back up. But the game recipes uses both.

[queen oasis]

it was a wish. It's easier to hide my replacement script behind "learn" and never give a way to learn it

I just googled "what is the stuff that tourists buy called" to remember the word souvenir if that tells you where my mind's at

I'm already catching IsoTree.weaponHit in lua so I should probs quit poking the game so hard

[shy mantle]

If anyone was working on re-adding placing corpses into containers for B42, I would use what's already given and being worked on in \Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\media\lua\shared\BodyDragging

I don't know how high of a priority this is, but it was added into the game files recently so expect the mod to be retired relatively quick.

They're very close to making it functional, it just has some errors with dragging a corpse after taking it out of a container that makes the corpse vanish.

And putting it in containers is janky/inconsistent

[small topaz]

ah sh*t... B42 even has EvolvedRecipe.setIsHidden() but seems that they have removed it for Recipe

[queen oasis]

someone port setIsHidden over to CraftRecipe please

hopefully they add that at some point

[bright fog]

Wouldn't even be hard to do, would jusy need to modify the UI

[queen oasis]

me and the UI don't like each other

[bright fog]

Recipes are a completely different class than CraftRecipe

[nocturne kiln]

i introduced 20 new vans, now 100 models https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3477331640 for the rv and armory you need the mods

[bright fog]

Congrats

[nocturne kiln]

thanks

[bright fog]

Small tip, AI previews will get you bad attention and less views and subs overall on the workshop

[queen oasis]

surprised it did anything but cause errors since I can't find getSuitableContainersToDropCorpse or throwGrappledIntoInventory

do what I do: google image something close to what you want, copy it, horizontal flip, save it and boom, an original picture

[bright fog]

Or in this case just use in-game images of your vehicles

This gets a loooot of attention on the contrary

[queen oasis]

yea, that's less steps to take for sure

[bright fog]

Show a huge park of new vehicles in-game and most users download it

But the AI preview will completely fuck you over, I'm not joking it actually ruins some mods...

[nocturne kiln]

i go try a new poster 😉

[bronze yoke]

i was wondering what all that stuff was about, so many grappletech additions and so little actual usages in the game 😅

[bright fog]

What are you talking about here ?

[shy mantle]

✋ 🤚 it works sometimes, I don't question it

[queen oasis]

but you can drag corpses. you can do it en masse with one of my mods wink wink

[bronze yoke]

lately they've added a lot of methods to do with throwing grapple targets over fences, into containers, etc

but they haven't actually added any of those features to dragging corpses, which is the only usage of grappletech actually in the game

[queen oasis]

oooh that would be nice. I'm still hoping for zombies holding on to bumpers

[bright fog]

Yea that's what you were talking about the other day, but why this random remark here now ?

Oh nvm the cpnvo was about grapple nvm

I was like "well that's random" lol

[shy mantle]

I like seeing new animations

But it also makes a strange noise when you do drop the corpse into a container and it vanishes from your hands

[regal zealot]

why so tiny? I was trying to downgrade the better quality cat moodles from DevCatt, but I gave up

[subtle cypress]

is there a function for retrieving the info from the games items.txt files? im trying to copy data from it to an item in my mods items.txt on server start, ive got some of them but i keep running into properties that need special functions to grab

[silent zealot]

You mean the item scripts?

I'm not sure what exactly you're trying to do; normally you'd make your own item script file (with a different name and path or it overwrites the vanilla file) and put your new items in there, which is a copy-paste-edit job and not smething done at runtime.

If you have a reason to do it dynamically we can probably help if you let us know which property(s) you're trying to copy over.

[nocturne kiln]

NEW POSTER 😉 THANKS https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3477331640

[bright fog]

Nice that's better !

[nocturne kiln]

Thank you

[sly ivy]

i cant get my model to load, i exported it to FBX, to 1x scale, then lowering to 0.001x so its not scale,
i feel like it's to do with the mesh but i linked that properly in the script

everything works but the model,

[bright fog]

Can you give more details of what is not working exactly ?

Is the model invisible ? Is it replaced by an icon of the item ?

[sly ivy]

Not even an icon,

[bright fog]

So invisible model ?

[sly ivy]

just an empty hand

yeah, i cant get the model to load

[bright fog]

The model does load if it's invisible

You said you exported to 0.001 but that's way too low possibly

Instead go with

• x1
• x10
• x100
• x0.1
• x0.01

Try these

[sly ivy]

no

i went from 1 down to 0.001

[bright fog]

Try scaling up too

[sly ivy]

good point

[sly ivy]

good news!

sizing helped!

bad news

uhh

[bright fog]

Why is the TV show in the back so accurate lol

[bright fog]

Ok so size down, and you might have inverted normals too

Which could explain why you couldn't see the model

[sly ivy]

i dont, know.

[sly ivy]

will do, also, how do i solve inverted normals? If you know

[bright fog]

Because the texture is was invisible since you were seeing it from the defined "inside" which was on the outside

[bright fog]

I don't remember how

But you can easily find informations about it

[bright fog]

#modeling message

[sly ivy]

that model of blender is alot older and unfortunately the advice they gave is incompatible with the one im using i think cause CTRL+N tries to create a new file,

i'll try to search for some advice on it online

[bright fog]

What version of Blender are you using ?

Bcs the advise they gave is the right one

[sly ivy]

4.2.3

[bright fog]

Did you select the model before using ctrl + N

[sly ivy]

yes

[bright fog]

And were you in edit mode ?

[sly ivy]

yep

[bright fog]

ctrl + shift + N does recalculate the normals it seems

On my end I just tested

[sly ivy]

blue is the outside right?

[bright fog]

Uuuh I don't remember, I don't even see the colors on my end sadly

[sly ivy]

i dont think its the normals, probably sizing

[bright fog]

Divide by 10 the size

And you'll see if it's the case or not

Also no I guess it doesn't make the model invisible thinking about it more

[sly ivy]

yeah

actually is there any way to access the inbuilt models for reference?

[bright fog]

Wdym by inbuilt models ?

Aaah the existing vanilla models ?

Yes

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/File_formats#Importing_assets

[sly ivy]

well

changing it to 0.04 helped

turns out

if you export to different sizes DIRECTLY into the model it changes it in the game while you're playing which i find cool

[bright fog]

Yes

It hot reloads models

A lot of stuff can be hot reloaded actually

Placed models on the ground don't reload so easily however, and they only reload when in the placing mode where you move the model around

So it's a bit more annoying to test those I suppose

[sly ivy]

its actually kinda cool that that works, and it helps

issue is now it looks like im using a small bowling pin to stab people

[bright fog]

You need to rotate the item around and move it slightly

[sly ivy]

oh i got it to rotate by changing a setting

just need to make the blade load in now

[bright fog]

The model does look a bit weird but I remember seeing this same issue but don't remember the cause of it

[sly ivy]

yay progress

[bright fog]

Which game version are you on ?

[sly ivy]

its not the 42 build one

one sec

this

[bright fog]

👌

Asking because quads can cause problems in B42

[sly ivy]

lol well thats annoying

now only the blade loads

instead of just the handle

[shy mantle]

Someone somehow used my B42 only mod on a B41 dedicated server and they claim it works. Should I have any reason to believe that.

[bright fog]

Nop, unless you have files inside the B41 mod structure I guess

What does your mod do ?

[shy mantle]

It does a few things
I add vehicle zones, I change some vanilla vehicle zones, I increase the chances of corpses spawning in cars, and I redefine a lot of the vehicle zone definitions

So, for example, I use specialburnt as a vehicle zone for some traffic jams, and to do that I had to change a couple zone definitions to have my desired outcome

Again, I have no idea how they can even use it in B41...

[bright fog]

Then they are lying

They just don't know what the mod actually does

And think the mod is active

[shy mantle]

Weren't the coordinates shifted?

I just went and asked them, I'm just curious now

[sly ivy]

well

it kinda works?

[bright fog]

Getting started guide update

Got some feedback or see something missing ? Tell me !

Added more stuff to the page:

• basically moved parts from the main Modding page about getting started into this guide instead to have a central place for the informations
• extra tip to check what others have made to have references on how to do certain things
• note regarding Notepad++ not being the best choice as other choices are as easy to setup and provide way more flexibility and control as well as a proper mod working environment
• Software suggestions for:
  • image editing
  • modeling and animating
  • mapping
• Extra warning regarding the use of AI in mod previews which tends to be impactful on the visibility of mods
  https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Getting_started

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[queen oasis]

there's still some weirdness with this. sometimes, it just won't update the recipe output. but after a complete game restart it will work fine. and no errors of course.

I might have broke something though when I was seeing if I could add more than 2+ outputs to a recipe with only 1 output

[bright fog]

Why do you bother running it during an event actually

[queen oasis]

just for testing right now

[bright fog]

But maybe that's what is causing issues

You delay the code running doing that

[queen oasis]

I think GameStateEnter fires after all the craft recipes are loaded

[bright fog]

No idea

[queen oasis]

ooh, yea it's not what I thought

good catch

changing to OnGameStart fixed the weirdness

[queen oasis]

local function replaceOutputs(originalRecipe, newRecipe)
    originalRecipe:getOutputs():clear()
    for i = 0, newRecipe:getOutputs():size() - 1 do
        local newOutput = newRecipe:getOutputs():get(i)
        originalRecipe:getOutputs():add(i, newOutput)
    end
end

[bright fog]

Why are you still doing it during an event ?

When you quit a save, Lua reloads anyway so if that's the reason you'll be fine

Bcs then it'll run again the script editing the recipe everytime you reload Lua, so when you go back to the main menu

I mean maybe you still need to do it during that event ? Who knows

[bronze yoke]

doubtful

scripts are loaded before any lua runs

[queen oasis]

the event was just for testing so I could immediately paste a check into the command console

I'm just a simple man with an idiot brain that bangs on a keyboard until something works

[queen oasis]

is there an easy way to get a craft recipe from an output? ie CraftRecipeManager.getRecipesThatOutput("Plank")

because I've built a monster that does it and I don't like it

I thought about hard wiring the recipes to the input, or even caching at game start, but I feel this might break mod compatibility, especially the first option.
Which reminds me, I should add a craft recipe to saw logs with an M16

[small topaz]

Just playing around with the "incomaptible mods" feature from the new B42 mod.info file. By testing some incompatible mods, I noticed that there seems to be quite some popular B42 mods which simply override whole vanilla lua files...

Also, the "incomaptible mods" feature is somehow bugged for me. Whenever I click on one of the mods from the incompatible list, game throws an error (without any mod enabled).

[queen oasis]

I don't think I've overwritten a whole file since my 1st or 2nd mod and that was because I didn't know any better

I'll override functions all day long though

and not even feel bad about it

[regal umbra]

Did professions stop having descriptions or something? Im looking through the ProfessionFactory class and I dont see a description method

theres the type, name, iconpath and points

however in the UI_EN there's still ui_prof_profdesc

[bright fog]

If you can simply hook to the function call then don't override

[regal umbra]

so I can't set the desc using the addProfession paramenter? cooked

[queen oasis]

there's a setDescription i think

[regal umbra]

method*

yeah but i gotta use it after the profession is added lmao

[bright fog]

Well you're not replacing it ? You call it later anyway ?

[regal umbra]

however addTrait has the desc parameter in it

[queen oasis]

the 1st is canned if I don't need it. the 2nd stays on the shelf. it even has magic numbers to make it more invasive

[bright fog]

You're also replacing quite important timed action functions here

[queen oasis]

I had to look again and it nopes out if it isn't needed

I was wondering why I didn't have an exit, but it does