mod_development

[bright fog]

Yea

ngl I don't even remember what these are LMAO

Ooooh ik !

Ik !

It's actually not me who creates this class

It's something the game does

I think

Wait

Yes

It's the output of SandboxOptionsScreen.createPanel

Oh yea !

Ok so what's going on is that I get a SandboxOptionsScreenPanel instance

local panel = SandboxOptionsScreenPanel:new(self.listbox:getRight() + UI_BORDER_SPACING, self.listbox:getY(), self.width - self.listbox:getRight() - UI_BORDER_SPACING*2-1, self.listbox:getHeight())

But Umbrella, doesn't recognize SandboxOptionsScreenPanel

And so I declared it for better indications of what the modders are getting with this

But that would really be best to just have Umbrella recognize it I think @bronze yoke

Tho I feel like I had already discussed this with you

[bronze yoke]

might be ignoring it because it's local or something

[bright fog]

Here I define it and no errors

Also SandboxOptionsScreenPanel is not defined in a file of the same name

It's defined inside SandboxOptions.lua

[bronze yoke]

yeah, it's local to another file

[bright fog]

It's not

Waiit

No sorry looking at the wrong one

Bruh

Yes it's local

[bronze yoke]

@frank elbow some lua class annotations are missing here, probably because it's a local?

[frank elbow]

Yeah—there's some logic to not emit local classes that it doesn't detect as “used”, which needs some improvement

[frank elbow]

The ones there certainly should be included

[bright fog]

Would be cancerous to declare due to this shit anyway

[frank elbow]

It's ugly, but it would prob be ideal to have it even if it's namespaced with the file or something

[bright fog]

wdym namespaced with the file ?

[frozen vessel]

Guys, how do I make the rear and front bumpers appear in the maintenance menu? I'm using tsarslib as dependency. Also, the car window isn’t going down — any idea how to fix it?

[frank elbow]

Like a class name of SandboxOptions.SandboxOptionsScreenPanel for the one in SandboxOptions.lua

[bright fog]

The car window is visually not going down or actually not going down ?

[bright fog]

I see

Sounds good

Have local classes be with this name sounds like a good idea, that way you understand where it's from

[frank elbow]

Thanks for calling it out btw, I'll add an issue to the repo about that later. I had included it as a note somewhere but that note is lost to the ether (or just in a .gitignored directory, probably)

[bronze yoke]

thanks for all your work!

[rancid cargo]

Yooo reshade depth buffer, sadly its super unreliable and unstable((
Did anyone managed it to work properly without buffer reseting all the time?

[quaint tartan]

Sorry to respond back late but I'm talking about this template. It seemed as simple as defining one and then giving the ingredients I want that tag in the evolved recipe = section but I think I have to do a bit more then that.

When I try to reuse a vanilla template like soup just to try to get it to function my game crashes when loading and it tells me it cant find my base item that works fine if I dont have template = Soup.

When I have the template set to my custom definition I get a crafting ui error. So would I have to do something within the lua crafting ui files to give it right click functionality?

[modest oak]

does pz support armature scaling

like, if i scale the head down, will attachments scale with it because its the bone being scaled instead of the model itself?

[bright fog]

Send your scripts

[bright fog]

No

[modest oak]

[bright fog]

why ?

[modest oak]

wanted to scale down the head slightly since it irks me that they are megaminds...

[bright fog]

@sonic needle has some experience with reshape

[trail ibex]

is there a delay between updating a mod and being able to use it in its updated form?

[bright fog]

Wdym, you already have it locally on your PC so it's already up-to-date ?

You should in fact not download your own mod if you have it locally too

[trail ibex]

I see

[bright fog]

Both versions, the local and workshop ones, will clash

[brave bone]

Quick question: is it possible to trigger zombie falling down/ stun thing manually through lua?

[bright fog]

A stagger ?

[brave bone]

yeah the stagger thing. where they fall down when hitting or pushing them

[bright fog]

sec

[bright fog]

https://github.com/SirDoggyJvla/The-Last-of-Us-Infected-B42/blob/master/Contents/mods/The Last of Us Infected/42.1.0/media/lua/shared/Behaviors/General_behavior.lua#L339

Should only need that

[brave bone]

thank you 🙂

[bright fog]

There's other methods I believe

[bright fog]

@agile nacelle that's the kind of visualizing for rays you can get

@bronze yoke in this case, what would be the mistake ? Because it can in fact convert to this type

[bronze yoke]

would need to see more of the code to know why it's saying this

most likely you annotated type somewhere with just IsoObjectType

[bright fog]

    if object:isStairsObject() then
        local type = object:getType()
        if not type then return nil, nil end
        type = tostring(type)
        return type, WorldTools.IsoObjectType[type]
    end

I'm changing the variable (also I should change its name to not get confused with the function)

[bronze yoke]

i think they might have updated the language server to be more strict......? it doesn't usually care about stuff like this

[bright fog]

Not the first time I saw that tho

It's been there for a while I believe

[bronze yoke]

it's strictly enforcing type as an IsoObjectType but you never used a type annotation so normally it shouldn't care what you do to type

i'm getting the warning even from```lua
local test = 5
test = "string"

[agile nacelle]

Better than nothing

[bright fog]

I mean it's great xD

[bronze yoke]

this is honestly what i want the language server to do, but for lua code that isn't designed for it it's going to result in a lot of false positives 😅

[frank elbow]

I've always received a warning for this sort of thing, so they might've just switched the default for some option

[agile nacelle]

I'll check it out tomorrow!

i just woke up from a dream at... 3am

[bright fog]

oof

[bronze yoke]

but if you just want to avoid the warning change it to one of these:```lua
if object:isStairsObject() then
---@type IsoObjectType | string
local type = object:getType()
if not type then return nil, nil end
type = tostring(type)
return type, WorldTools.IsoObjectType[type]
end

if object:isStairsObject() then
    local type = object:getType()
    if not type then return nil, nil end
    local typeString = tostring(type)
    return typeString, WorldTools.IsoObjectType[typeString]
end
```

[bright fog]

👌

https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/zombie/iso/SpriteDetails/IsoObjectType.html#MAX

Does it just defaults to MAX if no type is found ?

Seems like it

[bright fog]

You can throw a commission request in the modding Discord

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Unofficial_Modding_Discord

Anyway, gonna go sleep so I can wake up early enough tomorrow to be able to actually do sport before I boil from the heat 🥲

[nimble yarrow]

I'm still looking for some help turning off collision on a tile / square. Anyone ever do something like that?

I added the "water" flag to an IsoObject's sprite's properties. Now I cannot walk there.

[quaint tartan]

Oh geez I hope its not something incredibly stupid but it probably is lol 😭 this is everything (also my first time trying to learn this stuff)

[frozen vessel]

its visually not going down

[terse delta]

Can you disable/modify vanilla recipe?

[silent zealot]

Not as much as we'd like to be able to.

https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/zombie/scripting/entity/components/crafting/CraftRecipe.html

You can get ArrayLists for the inputs and outputs and change them, maybe do similar for the required skills...

but there are almost no set methods

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3511535258

[tranquil kindle]

Is there an way to make right click context menu option which would change TextureChoices from XML files for diffrent/next/random one for certain items? I'd like to make a option to allow to pick diffrent texture, without relying on creating Completly new items which would have only one texture choice and using Recipes and such if its possible. I got a feeling that i once saw a mod that allowed something like that, but can't really tell and find it. B41 but if it worked for both b41 and b42 it would be even beter.

[silent zealot]

Pretty sure the transmog mod does it

though it's going to be convoluted

[tranquil kindle]

Oh i see this mod, yeah something similar to this. I might need to check it out. I could manage it with recipes and i belive in b42 it would be even easier with the recipe changes they've done, but it would require me to pretty much reddo most itemscripts.

Thanks

[silent zealot]

setTextureChoice() works for itemvisuals

[tranquil kindle]

OH, there is setter for it? I tried looking for one, but maybe i missed it

Thats helpfull

[silent zealot]

that's not for inventoryitem, which is probably what you ware loooking for - that for the visual associated with worn items

[tranquil kindle]

For now my best bet would be checking out transmog mod. Seems as close to thing i'd need for now

[silent zealot]

It's in the game, it just doesn't show up on character creation

MainCreationMethods.lua:

[bright fog]

Bcs your car doesn't have a 3D interior ?

[bright fog]

I won't download that

[silent zealot]

did some checking while looking for other stuff:

getPlayer():getNutrition():setWeight(60)
getPlayer():getNutrition():applyTraitFromWeight()

That will give you Very Underweight. If you want to make a mod that add the traits back then create a new trait for character selection, then on game start if that trait is present remove it/set weight/call applyTraitFromWeight

[silent zealot]

How much experience do you have with scripting/programming? (in general, lua is easy to pick up if you're done any programming stuff before and know the basics)

The basic idea is add a new trait that give points. When a character loads into the game for the first time, if they have that trait you set their weight to 60 and force an update of traits-from-weight so they get the actual underweight trait that has game effects

You'll need some basic lua skills for this, but nothing too fancy.

[bright fog]

Tho Underweight will clash with the new trait

Bcs it'll be given to the player too

[silent zealot]

That's why it is a seperate trait with a different name

[bright fog]

No

You don't get it

Your character WILL receive the underweight trait

Bcs you are below the limit

So now you have very underweight AND underweight

[silent zealot]

...differnet name!

"Start underweight"

[bright fog]

Your player will have both traits !

????

[silent zealot]

So?

[bright fog]

Wdym so ? 😭

[silent zealot]

"I was underwight when the apocalypse started"

the added trait doesn't do anything after that initial setup.

[bright fog]

In a save, your character will have both traits at the same time

[silent zealot]

You could also remove it if you want

[bright fog]

Depends if it checks constantly or not

And I doubt it doesn't check constantly

[silent zealot]

It will check regularly, but I don't see the issue with having a "Started underwight" trait that does nothing and an actual trait related to your weight.

[bright fog]

What ????

He wants to add very underweight

[silent zealot]

fine

[bright fog]

So you have

• very underweight
• underweight
  ...

[silent zealot]

pretend I added teh word "very" to that

[bright fog]

But underweight will be added if you are below the limit

It won't verify if you are above the limit for very underweight

[silent zealot]

And Very underweight will replace it

[bright fog]

No it won't

[silent zealot]

And emaciated will repalce it

[bright fog]

Why would it replace it ?

Wait, wasn't this about B42 remove very underweight ?

[silent zealot]

The added trait (whcih does nothing other than setting initial weight) won't be automatically replaced.

but you can either remove it after it is used, or just give it a name like "started very underweight"

[bright fog]

Wait the trait is still present ?

[silent zealot]

The real weight traits are based on your weight, checked regularly via that funtion

Yes!

But you can't start with it

[bright fog]

Aaah I see, I had thought when I heard about it that the trait was straight up removed

Then yes that's fine here

[silent zealot]

you have to (in vanilla) drop your weight down to get it.

[bright fog]

That's why I was talking about adding a new trait

[silent zealot]

I was saying add a trait to set weight so you get the real (not an option at character creation) trait.

[bright fog]

I mean

[silent zealot]

Since AFAIK trying to edit the Traits once they are in TraitFactory is a huge pain.

[bright fog]

Just add the very underweight trait to the menu

[silent zealot]

You need to access the hashmap with the traits and edit the cost to not be zero, and there's also a boolean that I think does something about hiding it on the menu

But the Trait class lacks the setters you need and the TraitFactory:getTraits seems to rerurn a copy of the actual data so edits to that are no help. So you probably have to use reflection and the TraitFactory Hashmap and some more reflection.

[bright fog]

The traits are only added OnGameBoot tho ?

How do you get the trait in the trait chosing menu ?

[silent zealot]

Yes in the middle of all that

First two here are fast/slow metabolism, those do show up on the menu

[bright fog]

The cost being 0 is the issue I think

[silent zealot]

make that 0 a negative number and the true a false and it will be on the list of traits you can buy

[bright fog]

Can you not chose underweight either too ?

[silent zealot]

you get underweight for free with fast metabolism

[bright fog]

The true at the end is for profession tho

[silent zealot]

In that case it can be ignored, but the cost can't be zero.

[bright fog]

Ah yea no if it's true it'll be linked to a profession I think ?

[silent zealot]

(if you want to directly purchase it)

[bright fog]

Yea it's the cost the issue

Why make very underweight chosable if you can't directly chose underweight either ?

[silent zealot]

if I was going to make a mod I'd include all of them

[bright fog]

yea

[silent zealot]

Start emaciated if you want, and good luck

I might make a mod like that, mainly because it will be easy and I can work on it during work con-calls lol

And people do want it, though personally I dislike "have more character points in return for making the start of the game less fun"

[ancient grail]

about this . so you can still remove traits before it compiles the trait right?
tho looking at your convo about auto added trait by vanilla i realize that it might cause error if you remove underweight for example

oh yeah to prevent error just make the last param true (to make it not show up on the menu)

or was it false? i forgot

[silent zealot]

All the vanilla traits get added in one function, so to remove a line in the middle you'd have to recreate the entire function meaning your mod is going to break things any time vanilla traits change, and will conflict with any other mods doing the same thing.

I suppose you could hook into the Lua <-> Java interface and override the addTrait() API call

But you'd have to return a fake trait object because some traits then get things like "add -2 fitness to the trait I just added"

So possible, wouldn't need a lot of code to do, but does need far deeper Lua/Kahlua knowledge than you'd think something so simple would require

[bright fog]

If you readd the trait it should overwrite the previous changes

I think I had done that at some point

[silent zealot]

Didn't work when I tried, though I may have dune something wrong in the testing

[terse delta]

I'm not really fun of consequences that will haunt me to the end of my save either tbh

[bronze yoke]

i personally don't really like traits that don't have permanent effects, otherwise the best strategy is objectively to make my start as horrible as possible so that i'll be overpowered later

[terse delta]

Early game is the most thrilling and engaging part anyway

[bronze yoke]

definitely, but that's because it's much harder, so negative traits that go away leaving you only with bonuses are part of the problem 😅

[terse delta]

If there was good alternative to just start with traits you like, I'd completely abandon trait purchase at the start

I'm for character growth

[bright fog]

There is

You can add extra points

Thus allowing you to take anything

Without limitations

[terse delta]

I think you misunderstood me. If there was a way to earn traits hard way, I'd start w/o them at all

[bright fog]

Welp, if I may this really doesn't sound like what the sentence you sent means 😭

good alternative to just start with traits you like

Anyway there's great mods out there that exist with dynamic traits

[terse delta]

Had an idea for gaining keen hearing for example. You need to find 4 episodes of "Hearing training" on CDs and listen them all with a headphones

It makes sense, albeit gameified

[alpine ledge]

in build 41, where are the moodles located in the game files? they dont seem to be in the same place as 42

[bright fog]

Inside texture packs ?

[alpine ledge]

is that where they are? as .pack files? they are just in media/ui/moodles in 42 as .png

[bronze yoke]

there's several different popular mods that add that

[bright fog]

I mean, you found them ?

The B41 ones were in texture packs

If I remember right

[alpine ledge]

do those files unpack or open in a way that allows me to get the images themselves?

[bright fog]

Of course

Download the official modding tools

[alpine ledge]

oh i see. ty

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Project_Zomboid_Modding_Tools

[bright fog]

@bronze yoke "too long" aw. This is getting messy anyway

---Data used to identify collision objects and conditions.
---@alias ObjectType string|IsoFlagType|IsoObjectType
---@alias StructureType string
---@alias PropertyToSegments table
---@alias ObjectValidChecks table< ObjectType, (fun(IsoObject,PropertyContainer):boolean)[] >
---@alias ValidProperties ObjectType[]
---@alias PropertyToStructureType table<ObjectType, StructureType>
---@alias RaysCollisionsProperties { ["propertyToSegments"]: PropertyToSegments, ["objectValidChecks"]: ObjectValidChecks, ["validProperties"]: ValidProperties, ["propertyToStructureType"]: PropertyToStructureType }

[bronze yoke]

yeah aliases are a bit limited 😅 i don't really use them anymore

[bright fog]

Don't have much of a choice here or it'd be extremely messy

I'd have a single line defining a whole ass dictionary

And I need to repeat it at at least two different places

[bronze yoke]

RaysCollisionsProperties can be a class

[bright fog]

I guess that's a good idea

That might help ordering things partially at least

Hmm doesn't show the content when overring the type tho

The class I mean

[bronze yoke]

normally you'd just ctrl-click to jump to definition

i've used aliases for this kind of table in the past but a lot of features don't really work properly with it (definitely renaming fields, and i don't think they're properly type checked either) so i always end up making it a real class in the end anyway

[bright fog]

Yea that's fine I'll go with that I think

[simple bluff]

Hello again!
I'm working on a weapon mod to add an AK (mainly for learning purposes). I've got all the "coding" and icons done, but in-game my character holds nothing, it's like the weapon is invisible.
Any idea what could be causing that?

[bright fog]

Can be many things

Either you wrongly referenced the model

Or your model has the wrong scale, having a too small scale

@agile nacelle I will be releasing an update for my raycast system which allows modders to customize which kind of tiles are recognized way more easily

[simple bluff]

I totally agree with you, but I just tried to do exactly what the Firearms mod does — same file structure, references, etc. I even temporarily "borrowed" its 3D model to test.

so it "should" work

[bright fog]

We don't have enough informations to hep you man

[bright fog]

That's what you think

But the reality is that most times when it doesn't work it's just a dumb mistake that you are not aware of

Especially with this kind of issue I can assure you extremely confidently that you just made a mistake

[simple bluff]

i think it's more than just one mistake for me 😂

[bright fog]

A model rarely doesn't work because of something we can't control

[simple bluff]

like 2 or 3

[bright fog]

A model that's invisible is 99% of the time just a mistake somewhere

[simple bluff]

yeah i'll try to see what's the problem but idk where to start...

[bright fog]

Follow what the firearm guide tells you, not what an another mod does

[bright fog]

I gave you two possible mistakes already

Check these

Verify your model script

[simple bluff]

ok thanks !

[bright fog]

Verify your item script

Your item spawns, so that's a good sign that the mistake is not in the item script

Verify missing commas

[simple bluff]

Uh... yeah, you're right. I should've thought of that earlier.

thanks ill check that

[bright fog]

Lots of tiny bits you can check

Using a model file that you know for a fact already works is a good idea

That removes potential error points

[simple bluff]

oh yeah and just a quick question, zomboid can read .fbx files ?

[bright fog]

Yes

You should use .fbx

[simple bluff]

ok thanks

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/File_formats#Modeling_and_animation_formats

[quaint tartan]

Sorry ab that I should just copy and paste?

[bright fog]

Preferably, or use a GitHub repository

[finite scroll]

does anybody know where the file(s?) for the b42 spiffo map you see on the spawn select screen is? I figure it must be somewhere since it's modified by a couple map mods but can't find it for the life of me

[brave bone]

Do zombies have collision with each other? Or it just player to zombie only.

[quaint tartan]

https://github.com/JBone325/CrayfishBoilPot

Hopefully thats done right

[bright fog]

Yes

[lilac mural]

print(getModFileReader("randomairdropsASV", "media/configs/AirdropPositionsDefault.ini", false))

Am I tripping? Why does it returns nil?

[sleek tusk]

I'm having an issue with a mod I created — the image and thumbnail don't show up in-game, even though the mod itself works fine. I've already checked and edited the Workshop files and the mod folder. The preview.jpg, poster.jpg, and everything else seem to be in the right place, but the images still won't appear in the mod list inside the game. On the Steam workshop page, everything shows up fine — it's just in-game where the visuals are missing. Has anyone experienced this or knows how to fix it?

on the Steam workshop, the images only showed up 'cause I uploaded them manually through the site or forced them using SteamCMD. In-game, that didn't happen automatically, and the images still aren't showing up there

[agile nacelle]

Nice

[bronze yoke]

do you point to the poster in your mod.info?

[bright fog]

I released it, check out the wiki on the git page

[agile nacelle]

yipyip

[bright fog]

https://github.com/SirDoggyJvla/Doggy-s-Library/wiki/RayBeam2D

[mellow coral]

does anybody have a list of all new names of containers in build 42?

[bright fog]

It doesn't allow for detection of vehicles or zombies, that's something I might consider later

[bright fog]

What containers are you talking about ? Tiles or items ?

[mellow coral]

for the items to spawn

items

[bright fog]

Procedural distribution you mean ?

[mellow coral]

yeah

[lilac mural]

I've checked everything and still haven't figured it out 🙏

[agile nacelle]

Won't be an issue

[bright fog]

Check the bottom of this page https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Procedural_distributions

[mellow coral]

thanks

[bright fog]

Don't hesitate to give me feedback or ask me if you don't understand something

Check out Check Around to have a working example (mentioned in the wiki)

[agile nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343212013005967430/1353265763183497237/attachment-20.gif

[sleek tusk]

yeah, I did

the file is named Hydrant.jpg, and I have poster=Hydrant.jpg set in the mod.info

[bright fog]

Show your mod.info

[bronze yoke]

it must be a png

[bright fog]

Indeed

[sleek tusk]

I even renamed it to "Hydrant_poster.jpg", but it still had the same issue

[bronze yoke]

because it has to be a png

[bright fog]

Yea read what Albion is saying please 😅

[sleek tusk]

ohhh, ok

I'll change it

thanks for your help

[bright fog]

I added two new events to my library:

• OnZombieVisuals: triggers when a zombie gets its visuals set, which is the moment when modders can modify the zombie clothings directly.
• OnZombieRecycle: triggers when a zombie is unloaded from the game, when it gets recycled by the game.

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Doggy's_API
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3428272880
https://github.com/SirDoggyJvla/Doggy-s-Library/wiki/DoggyEvents

[silent zealot]

Nice additon!

[silent zealot]

Work on a super-shotgun has resumed.

[bright fog]

Railgun

[silent zealot]

I like that idea

But withouta visual effect it's going to be weird.

[bright fog]

You can make some

[silent zealot]

https://youtu.be/yF3P7q-iD0M?t=5 Not sure I can manage this in Zomboid.

And that's nearly three decades old by now

[ancient grail]

you can make visuals using markers

[bright fog]

You can definitely do a lot more than you think

Even using shaders and shit

[silent zealot]

Got any examples I can look at?

Would definitely open up some more options

[bright fog]

In terms of visual effects, I know a specific mod which uses images to create them

Shaders, @red tiger can give more detail

But for example I draw lines on the UI of colors I want, so you could possibly use it

Tho interaction with the lighting system might be impossible idk ?

[silent zealot]

There's also the issue of converting from 3D space to the 2D screen space to draw lines.

[tight elm]

That thing should knock back the player on each shot

[silent zealot]

re: lighting: you have flashlights/vehicle headlights which are very limited, and you can place Iso light sources in the middle of a square

And there is a "flare" system that gives an overall ight effect to the world.

[silent zealot]

I've seen a mod that floated anime images above the player for... I can't remembr why.

Found it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q1pVhg8-W0

Looks like it just uses the 2D cursor position to decide where to place images, then moves things as the screen moves.

That might be good enough: https://youtu.be/1Q1pVhg8-W0?t=221

With a bunch of screwing around, use the player direction and just throw rotated sprites at things.

[simple bluff]

@bright fog I tried to do exactly the same as the game's files, but it still doesn't work. I think you mentioned that I didn’t give enough information about my whole mod, so here it is. I hope this helps make things clearer.

Console Error:
WARN : General f:670, t:1751277075318> MeshAssetManager.loadCallback > Failed to load asset: AssetPath{ "AK47" }

Mod file structure:
C:\Users\user\Zomboid\Workshop\EscapeFromKnoxCounty\Contents\mods\EscapeFromKnoxCounty
├── media
│ ├── models_X
│ │ └── weapons
│ │ └── firearm
│ │ └── AK47.fbx
│ ├── textures
│ │ └── weapons
│ │ └── firearm
│ │ └── AK.png
│ └── scripts
│ └── models_weapons.txt

models_weapons.txt:

model AK47
{
mesh = Weapons/Firearm/AK47,
texture = Weapons/Firearm/AK,
}
EFCK_weapons.txt:

item AK47
{
DisplayName = AK-47,
WeaponSprite = Base.AK47,
}

[silent zealot]

I'll have a look into it, there's a lot more work to do on the supershotgun first - I just wanted to make sure I could actually get the "hit all the zombies in a cone" thing working before spending time on the bits I know I can do (model, weapon item, ammo item, crafting shells using an empty can, a jar of gunpowder and some scrap metal.

[silent zealot]

Do you have an item script in addition to the model script?

Also, please rename it from AK47 - that name will conflict with other mods; I've had issues with a gun mod adding Base.AK47 and a Marijuana mod adding Base.AK47, resulting in being able to grind up and smoke an assault rifle.

I prefix names with "Nep" because Base.NepAK47 is much less likely to ever conflict.

[lilac mural]

Any help pls

[tight elm]

Using a debugger is much quicker than waiting for someone to help

[lilac mural]

wait wdym?

[tight elm]

Setup a debugger https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Remote_debugging

Place breakpoint inside getModFileReader method in LuaManager class and see what is going wrong

@lilac mural

[lilac mural]

oh didn't know it was a thing

thx

[simple bluff]

@silent zealot I renamed my .fbx file NepAK47.fbx, i also renamed "WeaponSprite = Base.NepAK47," , "item NepAK47" and

model NepAK47
{
mesh = Weapons/Firearm/NepAK47,
texture = Weapons/Firearm/AK,

but the gun is still invisible

[silent zealot]

Nep was just an example, because I use "Nepenthe" as the name for modding

BabaAK47 is the sort of thing I expected, but that's fine lol

So the gun is in the game and work, it's just invisible?

[simple bluff]

yes

[silent zealot]

There are a few things that can cause this.

Step 1 of diagnostics: replace the NepAK47.fbx file with a copy of a weapon model that does work.

eg: copy the the default shotgun.x as NepAK47.x

and move your model out of teh mod for now

if that shows up, something went wrong with your model - most likely the scale when you exported, or you didn't join all the bits into one object, or you didn't select the gun and tick "export selected only"

[simple bluff]

oh no your right ! i can't shoot, but i can reload it, and i could shoot when i was using the AssaultRifle weapon sprite

and my Ak 3D model is not mine, i took it from the firearms B42 mod just to do some tests

ok, i used the WeaponSprite = Base.AssaultRifle, from the game and it works perfecty, i can shoot, reload and i can see the gun

[silent zealot]

Now Set WeaponSprite = <your model definition>

but replace the model file (i.e.: the fbx) with a working one

is this your entire model definition?

model AK47
{
    mesh = Weapons/Firearm/AK47,
    texture = Weapons/Firearm/AK,
}

Because that has no muzzle definition, so can't shoot.

model AssaultRifle
    {
        mesh = Weapons/Firearm/AssaultRifle,

        attachment muzzle
        {
            offset = 0.0000 0.4020 0.0270,
            rotate = -90.0000 0.0000 -180.0000,
        }

        attachment scope
        {
            offset = -0.0050 0.0350 0.0780,
            rotate = 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000,
        }

        attachment scope2
        {
            offset = 0.0000 0.0210 0.0610,
            rotate = 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000,
        }

        attachment recoilpad
        {
            offset = 0.0000 -0.1450 0.0050,
            rotate = 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000,
        }

        attachment reddot
        {
            offset = 0.0010 0.0150 0.0670,
            rotate = 179.0000 0.0000 -180.0000,
        }

        attachment laser
        {
            offset = 0.0000 0.2340 0.0020,
            rotate = 180.0000 0.0000 180.0000,
        }

        attachment world
        {
            offset = 0.0200 0.1300 0.0000,
            rotate = 180.0000 0.0000 180.0000,
        }
    }

That's the vanilla sssaultrifle definition. At minmum you need the muzzle and world attachments defined; muzzle for bullets to come out, world for offset when placing in the world.

If you have attachments you need to define where the attachment point on the model is as well, but you can ignore that for now.

[simple bluff]

module Base
{
model NepAK47
{
mesh = Weapons/Firearm/NepAK47,
texture = Weapons/Firearm/AK,

    attachment muzzle
    {
        offset = 0.0000 0.4173 0.0180,
        rotate = -90.0000 0.0000 0.0000,
    }

    attachment sling
    {
        offset = 0.0029 0.3186 0.0153,
        rotate = 179.8380 -19.0067 175.8490,
    }

    attachment scope
    {
        offset = 0.0000 0.0510 0.0414,
        rotate = 180.0000 0.0000 180.0000,
    }

    attachment reddot
    {
        offset = 0.0040 0.0470 0.0460,
        rotate = 180.0000 0.0000 180.0000,
    }

    attachment gunlight
    {
        offset = 0.0000 0.2955 0.0165,
        rotate = 89.9967 -89.8813 89.9967,
    }

    attachment laser
    {
        offset = 0.0000 0.4020 0.0270,
        rotate = -90.0000 0.0000 -180.0000,
    }

    attachment stock
    {
        offset = 0.0000 0.4020 0.0270,
        rotate = -90.0000 0.0000 -180.0000,
    }

    attachment silencer
    {
        offset = 0.0000 0.4230 0.0180,
        rotate = -179.8829 -0.0000 -180.0000,
    }

    attachment world
    {
        offset = 0.0149 0.1103 0.0172,
        rotate = -180.0000 -3.0001 180.0000,
    }

    attachment magazine
    {
        offset = 0.0000 0.1116 0.0105,
        rotate = 180.0000 0.0000 180.0000,
    }
}

}

this is my model definition

[silent zealot]

OK, in that case go back to what I was talking about - replace NepAK47.fbx with a copy of a working gun model, and make sure that works.

[simple bluff]

ok but it will be "AssaultRifle.X" to "NepAK47.X" is that right ? because i don't find .fbx files in the game files

[tranquil kindle]

From your console it simply means it can't find your mesh/model

If its in correct place, maybe you exported empty fbx/x file by mistake

[simple bluff]

WARN : General f:741, t:1751287493361> MeshAssetManager.loadCallback > Failed to load asset: AssetPath{ "NepAK47" }

yeah but it's not my file and it work for the mod that i took the model from

[silent zealot]

yes

.x and .fbx can be used interchangeably, but .fbx is a much better format for anything new you make.

[thin swan]

Alrighty let's see what's in this one
https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/84895-42100-unstable-released/

Oh hell yeah
- Added gizmo controls for rotating and moving items during extended placement.

[simple bluff]

It doesn’t work

The gun is still invinsible

[thin swan]

Thank god
- Fixed bumped state causing an odd 90-degree turn when player bumps into something.

Uh oh, it breaks buildable tile objects with custom OnCreate functions

- Replaced the created thumpable object as the parameter for the OnCreate lua function with a table that includes the thumpable, craftrecipedata and character. --TO MODDERS: if you have a buildable tile object that uses a custom OnCreate function that will need to be updated.

Easy to fix though, but yeah, no OnCreate's that use the passed thumpable will work until updated

[bright fog]

Caps

Inconsistent caps

And yea rename it

[silent zealot]

Voronoi Noise zombies! that should make for better distributions instead of evenly spreading them everywhere with the same population

• Reverted a previous fix for Balaclava Clipping after player feedback. Changed Balaclava body location back to Mask.

TIS stealing my mods again! 😂

[thin swan]

Seems the map breaks on existing saves, at least it does on mine.
Fixed by commenting out line 1386 and 1396 in ISWorldMap.lua:

function ISWorldMap:initDataAndStyle()
    local mapAPI = self.mapAPI
    if MainScreen.instance.inGame then
        MapUtils.initDefaultMapData(self)
        mapAPI:setBoundsFromWorld()
        -- MapUtils.initDefaultStreetData(self)
        self.hideUnvisitedAreas = true
    else
        -- TEST in main menu
        MapUtils.initDirectoryMapData(self, 'media/maps/Muldraugh, KY')
        mapAPI:setBoundsFromData()
        local markers = mapAPI:getMarkersAPI()
        markers:addGridSquareMarker(11342, 6779, 50, 1.0, 1.0, 0.0, 1.0)
        self.hideUnvisitedAreas = false
    end
    -- MapUtils.initDefaultStyleV3(self)
    MapUtils.overlayPaper(self)
end

[simple bluff]

it doesn't work...idk what to do...but thanks anyway!

[silent zealot]

I'll have a proper look tomorrow, I shoudl be able to upgrade Street Smart by using the street DB instead of forage data

[silent zealot]

It doesn't work even with the model from another, working weapon in place?

Triple check all the paths and filenames, check for any error about failed to load or missing models/textures.

[simple bluff]

the only error that i have is : WARN : General f:882, t:1751292628728> MeshAssetManager.loadCallback > Failed to load asset: AssetPath{ "NepAK47" } and i renames all paths and filenames

[icy night]

Hey, what command can I use to get the amount of XP that a player has just earned?

Simply getXp() ?

[fleet bridge]

there's an AddXp lua event

[ancient grail]

maybe your model ile has more than 1 object? or something else wrong with it

[simple bluff]

maybe i'll try something else

[worn lodge]

lil socom done

now onto figuring out how to actually get it in game bc ive never done this ✌️

[terse delta]

I struggle to read javadocs. I don't understand what kind of arguments do I need, and moreover, is it even working and what it does?

Is there anything I can do about it?

[bronze yoke]

the javadocs tells you what methods exist and the types of the arguments and return value, but the rest is basically up to your best guess based on those things, since there isn't much proper documentation

the best way to check when you're unsure is to decompile the game and just read the method's source to work out what it does

[terse delta]

I've saw methods a few times that are just blank

(

)

literally

I think I should interpretate that as "not working"

[worn lodge]

so uh

no gun

anybody has a b41 item description script that i can take as an example for me to modify? cant really find one anywhere

[terse delta]

Icon faiure?

[worn lodge]

havent put an icon

im trying to get to see the mesh first

Also seems important to mention

im updating the mod and script

i changed the weapon name and then updated the mod and it didnt change at all

[tranquil kindle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3060255898

[terse delta]

I think you're working in a wrong folder

Just assumption

Check that you modify files in the proper location

[bronze yoke]

are you pushing updates to the workshop to test every change? 😅

[worn lodge]

Yeah i am that dumb

[bronze yoke]

don't do this, you can test mods locally 😅 it can cause a lot of issues like steam deciding to just not update your mod, making you think you did something wrong but it was just steam

[worn lodge]

sounds about right

[bright fog]

Can you show them ?

[bronze yoke]

if you have your mod set up to upload then you're already set up for local testing, i suggest unsubscribing from the mod on the workshop when you're testing (sometimes it likes to load files from the wrong version) and just enable the mod like normal

[terse delta]

I've stumbled upon few when I was looking for ways to meddle in zombies AI

I think those are unfinished/cut ones

[terse delta]

How I can see recipe source in-game?

[silent zealot]

There's a recipe list in the debug menu

Doesn't show the raw source script, shows the script after it's been loaded/interpreted

[terse delta]

Knowing the mod name is enough

[worn lodge]

local testing is just having the mod on the mods folder right?

[bronze yoke]

it can be in the workshop folder as well

[worn lodge]

alright

so good and bad news

worked ish

[silent zealot]

YAY!

[worn lodge]

model STILL not showing up

[silent zealot]

BOO!

[worn lodge]

boo

good news is the gunshot sfx plays

but there is not model to see

lol

[terse delta]

What is ItemPickerJava.Parse?

[worn lodge]

loot table stuff afaik

item selections

1751328952600> MeshAssetManager.loadCallback> Failed to load asset: AssetPath{ "weapons/firearm/SOCOM" }

yea idk what the issue is atp

taking a break'

could be something abt my model?

[supple briar]

It might be a naming issue?

Since it isn't loading, either it's corrupted or named wrong, or the wrong file type

[worn lodge]

might be onto something hold on

[worn lodge]

Not a naming issue

same error

[supple briar]

is the model a FBX?

[worn lodge]

Nope, .x

[supple briar]

maybe try a fbx?

if that doesn't work it's probably the model itself

maybe it didn't export properly

[worn lodge]

tried with fbx

didnt work

if its the model what could it be

[supple briar]

Well, you may have not actually exported it, depending on your export settings

after that it could be a issue with the mesh

[worn lodge]

wdym?

[supple briar]

Are you using blender?

[worn lodge]

Yes

[silent zealot]

My suggestion fro @worn lodge and @simple bluff who are facing the same issue:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3060255898 in this tutorial there is a link to an exampel gun mod

"Also here is link to download this mod in case you want to take a look at it yourself"

Download that, make sure it works.

Then to test your weapon model replace the example mod's Media\models_X\weapons\firearm\CustomAssaultRifle.fbx with your model.

(texture won't want, but don't worry about that for now)

This isolates the issue as being either "your model will not load wven when the .fbx is found correctly" or "something in your script files is wrong"

If it loads in the example mod, triple check every path and filename. Especially paths, eay to get hose slight wrong. I've lost an hour to weapon vs weapons.

If it still doesn't load have a look at the tutorial and how you have to set things up to export, especially the scale, having only a single object in blender (Ctrl-J to join parts together if needed) and ticking "selected objects only" on export.

[worn lodge]

This did it thanks, now the thing is re scaling the model, im trying to import an ingame model for reference but the scaling is obviously not right since its decently big

[terse delta]

I never thought about that, but can you tie context menu option to muscle strain condition? Like, is it even possible to call context menu on right click?

[silent zealot]

My suggestion is 1) load in a vanilla gun 2) make your gun match the size, scale up 100 times, Strl-A apply transformations -> scale, set the scale in the object properties to 0.01 so it's make to the correct size.

I do this on a copy, since I find it easier to model @ a larger size/with mutliple objects/faces with many vertexes, and then I make an "export version"

[ancient grail]

but context menu is via right click

[silent zealot]

Do you mean control what is shown in the right click context menu based on how much muscle strain the player has?

[terse delta]

Let's say I want to add medication to muscle strain that is applied like bandage

[silent zealot]

Applied directly to the body part?

[terse delta]

Yes.

[silent zealot]

Should be possible, though I've never looked for where the medical UI context menu is done

That assuming you want to right click bodypart -> apply gel

if you want to right click gel -> apply to left arm, apply to right arm, etc) that's the standard right-click context menu

I suggest looing at lua\client\SpSstem\ISUI\IShealthPanel.lua , especially ISHealthPanel:doBodyPartContextMenu(bodyPart, x, y)

[terse delta]

Thanks, I'll try

[silent zealot]

If that doesn't work out, right click gel and get context menu option for each strained bodypart is definitely possible.

Using the good old OnFillInventoryObjectContextMenu event

Your mod may become essential if I get this mod completed:

Weird quirk: all firearms do the same amount of muscle strain per shot, unless they are full auto in which case they do half the amount.

So setting your gun to full auto and firing single shots with short taps is less strain than single shot mode.

[supple briar]

That makes zero sense, truly a PZ moment

[worn lodge]

yeah thats what i wanted to do, but i think my import addon is broken since it imports the gun at full size

[silent zealot]

The latest versions of blender have native .fbx support

...you're not using .x are you?

[worn lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-pdiddy-diddy-gavinator96-pilgrammed-gif-6448680470528017934

i am BUT

the game files

are on .x

not fbx

therefore me trying to put on a .x file in blender

[supple briar]

So question, I've seen a few mods do it, but how would someone start to have a script so when a gun runs out of ammo, it automatically ejects the spent magazine?

I wanna make a M1 Garand for a pack I'm working on and I was curious where to start with that

[silent zealot]

Start with ISReloadWeaponAction.onShoot in ISReloadWeaponAction.lua

You should be able to add a postfix patch to that "if weapon ==Base.CakeM1 and ammoleft ==0 then remove mag from weapon, drop it on floor, play PING! sound"

[supple briar]

I gotta say, you are really good at explaining stuff to people with 0 coding knowledge

[silent zealot]

Years of working in IT 😂

Another option: don't use a magazine at all, use InsertAllBulletsReload = TRUE

[supple briar]

A second question, if I were to add a crafting recipe for a rifle, in this case to convert it to use a different type of magazine, I assume it wouldn't keep loaded ammunition inside. is there a way to block the crafting recipe if it was loaded?

[silent zealot]

It's meant for double barrel shotguns but if you use it on something with more capacity it shoudl just shove all teh bullets in at once.

[supple briar]

Hm, that might work for both ideas actually

[silent zealot]

This does mean there is no stripper clip object, just shells you put directly in

[supple briar]

The thing with the Garand is my idea involves a map, and I thought it would be cool to have M1 Garand clips spawn as trash when foraging

but, that might work well with the bolt actions

[worn lodge]

alright so i kinda did it, i focused on getting it done first but the model appears patchy and translucent in some spots

[silent zealot]

You can attach functions to craftrecipies: I think OnTest is a lua function to decide if you can do teh recipe, and OnCreate is the function that runs to do stuff the recipe script can't handle

So you could have an OnCreate that says "if old gun has bullets, put that many bullets in the new gun"

[silent zealot]

Good! try: select gun, tab for edit mode, A to select all, F3 to search for command, triangulate faces

[supple briar]

but would this screw with stuff if the new gun didn't have a magazine inside? because I could see that causing a dupe bug where you just keep switching back and forth to gain infinite clips

[silent zealot]

Because a face with more than 4 vertexes shows up blank when zomboid renders it

[worn lodge]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[silent zealot]

Do both old and new guns have magazines?

oh you're changing magazine type

[supple briar]

It would be going, in my head, from no magazine to a "magazine"

[silent zealot]

in that case, just have the function remove the magazine from the old gun and shove it in your pocket.

(if there is a magazine loaded)

[supple briar]

I see

god I need to learn lua

[silent zealot]

hahaha

Have you done any programmig/scripting before?

[supple briar]

Some?

[silent zealot]

If you have, basic lua is easy to pick up

[supple briar]

Simple stuff, mainly editing values and coping stuff

I understand what you're saying, but putting it into practice is the hard part

[silent zealot]

If you know the basic of functions, variables and if statements you're good to start hacking away

Note: AI is very very very bad at anything relatd to project zomboid mods, but it it pretty good at general lua questions.

And also "I have a function that does <thing>, can you explain this to me" is pretty good - not perfect, but very helpful.

[supple briar]

I can probably figure this out

modeling first though, that's fun

then the code mines

[silent zealot]

hahah

yeah, get it working using vanilla weapon features first

Sounds like you're making two guns, one with mag/one without

[supple briar]

In all honesty

I might use the double barrel code instead

the M1 garand would use mags, but just eject them when spent

the stripper clip thing is a bit cumbersome for not much use outside a "oh that's neat but annoying" reaction I think

[silent zealot]

You can also pretend stripper clips do not exist and load bullets in one-by-one, that's what I did for my Keltec PR-57

[worn lodge]

fawk it didnt work

ignore the incorrect anims

[supple briar]

you got a model at least it seems

that's progress

[worn lodge]

the size is decent too yeah

loooooooool

[supple briar]

faces are a pain

[silent zealot]

Has the bonus of not needing to figure out what to do if someone reloads and the stripper clips have 10 bullet but the gun only has room for 5 more

[supple briar]

even on single out of place vertices and it's ruined

[silent zealot]

next thing to check: inverted faces

[supple briar]

also, probably not causing that issue, but check inside for any hidden faces

that can mess up UVs

[worn lodge]

how do i proceed with that

[silent zealot]

search for "inverted faces" in this channel & #modelling

I don't have time to give details again sorry, but have described it in the past

[worn lodge]

no results

imma google

[silent zealot]

"normals"

[worn lodge]

got it yeah

[silent zealot]

that's the word I cou;dn't think of

inverted/flipped normals

[worn lodge]

how do i know which are messed up

[silent zealot]

#modeling message

there is probably a better way

#modeling message

you can also just tab -> A -> F3 -> recalaculate normals and hope it works.

[worn lodge]

lets see then

still the same

[supple briar]

Maybe it's a UV issue?

[worn lodge]

i mean if it was what could it be

[supple briar]

Well the texture seems screwy to me

so I'd assume the UV might be messed up

I'm trying to work through this how I would work through a issue with my own mods

it's either a model or UV issue I would assume

[worn lodge]

im thinking model issue

would you do me a favor and look at it

also yes the textures are kinda fucked

but its the texture not the UV as far as i can tell

[supple briar]

yeah sure just shoot me the fbx in dms

[slim swan]

the new map is so great

everything of the map is so smooth

it seems they use a new way to render text,the text got outline first time

[silent zealot]

They are using "image pyramids" for nice smooth multilevel zoom

[silent zealot]

Ooooooh, you can enable the "detailed fancy map" look and not lag the game out

[rancid cargo]

How do I clear shader cache?

[bright fog]

Why ?

[rancid cargo]

I'm trying to tweak water shader, and after few changes it just starts flickering light

[graceful glacier]

how can i remove the js2000 shotgun from the server distributions?

[heady kiln]

<@&671452400221159444> swing thy ban hammer

@slow granite spam bot (not sure which ping works best)

[tight elm]

not the stearncornmunlty

[finite dune]

ty

and to answer your question, the best imo is to reply to the offending post and tag the spiffo bot, just makes finding it easier, but either honestly works (we find them pretty fast either way)

[heady kiln]

alright, i'll keep that in mind

[silent zealot]

The distribution table is just a big lua table of lua tables of lua tables. Iterate through and and anytime you find an entry for Base.shotgun set probability to 0. Either do this when your file loads, or if you do it later call ItemPickerJava:Parse() after to make the java loot system re-read the lua table.

[graceful glacier]

thank you very much

[silent zealot]

If you look at the EasyDistro mod it has code for looping through the loot table to find all instance of an item, though it does it for purposes of adding a new item.. but you could edit the found item instead.

[graceful glacier]

would it work for multiplayer servers?

like hosted ones

[silent zealot]

Probably, if it runs on the server.

EasyDistro is for B42, but should work fine in B41 - some of the loot locations were renamed, but the "iterate through everything" approach doesn't care if the location names change.

[dreamy birch]

id say @ moderator works better, spiffo bot tag only sends a notification to one channel, moderator sends me a push notification @heady kiln

[sudden cradle]

<@&671452400221159444> another scammer

[ancient grail]

done with my mod
off to the next one!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3514342194

[worn lodge]

Yooo fire

[silent zealot]

Now make a mod with with raidtool-proof walls

A constantly escalating arms race

[ancient grail]

yep
it includes blacklist

[worn lodge]

@silent zealot @ancient grail excuse the ping but i need some thoughts

how difficult could it be

to make a backpack in game'

[ancient grail]

you can configure it however you want cuz of the sandbox

[worn lodge]

that changes model depending on weight held on it

[ancient grail]

you need to learn clothing mods basically

it should be relatively easily as long as you follow the format and the vanilla provides you with all the files you need that can be used as template

you just need a list of stuff
fieldguid entry
clothing xml
texture
the ground model script
item script
the fbx file

thats about it i believe

[ancient grail]

thats doable
you just need to change its sprite via lua
that runs on tick or every ingame minute maybe

or when inventory refreshes
i think thats better option

[ancient grail]

feel free to ping or dm me anytime bud

[worn lodge]

yeah thats what im thinking

because i want to do the death stranding backpack (as seen in this WIP model)

and well obviously the backpack gets filled with whatever you carry

lets say it can carry like 32kg for balancing purposes so if it reaches 6kg it has one cargo box and so on for every 6kg

[silent zealot]

Tricky, because getClothingItem() has no set as it just goes back to the original item script:

What I suggest instead: make the basic backpack

Make a bunch of "fake clothes" - Leaving the displayname blank (or something similar) means you end up with clothes that don't show up in the inventory but can be equipped via lua for visual effect

the fake clothes are various collections of extra boxes/packages/etc that go on top of the main backpack

then you just check "if special backpack equipped then check how much is in it, and equip the matching extraStuff clothing item"

[worn lodge]

so like these containers could be the "fake clothes" right

[silent zealot]

and do that on a scedule, or if there is an event for moving itmes in/out of a container

They could look like anything you want them to look like

[worn lodge]

alright then

i kiiiinda got that

id still need to get started on the backpack code

how different is making backpacks from clothes or guns?

[silent zealot]

Start with a proof-of-concept of the idea, so you don't do lots of work on models before realizing you need to do them differently

Backpacks are clothes

[worn lodge]

Does boolean modifier on blender transfer well to zomboid

[silent zealot]

Typically a static model

[worn lodge]

mirror modifier kinda fucks up my containers

[silent zealot]

I always apply modifiers before exporting the final fbx.

fucks up how? I've used it and it works fine

But that's with Applying the modifier to the export copy of teh item in blender pre-export.

[worn lodge]

as in doesnt let me mess with the model freely

thats why i added the boolean

[silent zealot]

I don't knwo what that means

[worn lodge]

but itll count as two items now that i think about it

boolean modifier kinda makes two separate meshes one

but doesnt

since i wanted to make a container but i couldnt do it around the mirror modifier since its a cilindrical shape

[silent zealot]

Use mirror, and array/boolean/whatever modifiers

just apply them before export.

[worn lodge]

alright

[silent zealot]

And if mirror doesn't make modelling easier, don't use it... it's not always the right thing to use.

[worn lodge]

yeaah just in this case it had to be symmetrical

but im done with it

[worn lodge]

the scale is the same as anything else then?

[silent zealot]

Shoudl be, check a vanilla backpack model to be sure

[worn lodge]

you got the link to a good .x importer addon? or a better way to import ingame models to blender

because i couldnt find any that are not outdated

[silent zealot]

Not sure what to use with the latest blender

[worn lodge]

what version do you use?

or well, how do you import the models

[manic dock]

anyone knows if there's an easy way to fix some clipping with items attached to a backpack ?

its authentic z backpack upgrades mod i think

[ancient grail]

sounds good
goodluck bud

[ancient grail]

have you successfully added the bag? i mean is it already in game?

[ancient grail]

ughh maybe try contacting peach first . ask permission to patch it or maybe he will patch it if you report?

[worn lodge]

Nah im still yet to do so, i need to learn how to do that first

[finite scroll]

idk where the best place to ask this is but it'll get buried immediately in general, does anybody know what font is used for the spawn map added in b42? specifically, the one used to indicate points of interest (the country club, sanatorium, coalfield, etc)

[sharp plinth]

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[drifting ore]

Does anyone know how much of a headache it would be for me to make a mod that adds zombies as a viable animal to butcher?

I'm looking for a way to get more animal bones, and honestly zombies and the most common source of bones out there.

I'm fine with them giving really poor return rates and everything.

A cow for example weights as much as five to eight humans.

Plus, zombies wouldn't be in the best condition...

[tranquil reef]

What does Iso stand for in the java codebase

[bronze yoke]

isometric, but sometimes they put it in places that don't make sense

[tranquil reef]

yeah, that's why I was kind of confused. thought it might've had a different meaning

[silent zealot]

Is there any hackery that allow accessing a class that is not exposed in lua? I can get a WorldMapStreets objects but it's not exposed, so none of the public methods work and none of the tricks to access public fields work, starlit reflection didn't find anything...

The public methods getStreetCount and getStreetByIndex are exactly what I need to get all the street data. But lua only has access to other classes that give features like "what street is at this location"

[bronze yoke]

there's a slower backup method for accessing fields of non-exposed classes

local Reflection = require("Starlit/utils/Reflection")

local fieldValue = Reflection.getField(object, "fieldName")

unexposed classes don't have metatables so it can't do the same trick it usually does for field access

[silent zealot]

that works:

m_streets=Reflection.getField(ISWorldMap_instance.mapAPI:getStreetsAPI():getStreetDataByIndex(0), "m_streets")

gets an ArrayList with 586 entries!

Thanks

[silent zealot]

Follow-up question :Is there any equivalent process for methods?
Follow-up follow-up question: ...and if so, what about methods inherited from a parent class?

I can make this work without methods, but it would skip a thousand reflections and 500 conversions of text to a series of numbers if methods were available.

[bronze yoke]

nah, we can't get methods

i prototyped some very limited method calling but it only worked in debug mode and only for methods that met very specific conditions

so it wasn't really worth including

[autumn bluff]

can anyone help me find the file that defines fluid containers? specifically the file that stores the ContainerName properties? i want to add a new bottle to the game and keep getting stuck

i assume its somewhere in the lua folder

[silent zealot]

Names get generated based on the fluid in the container

You can just copy the item script for a canteen or similar, no need to mess with lua code

module Base
{
    item NepFunCan
    {
        DisplayName = Can of Fun,
        DisplayCategory = Food,
        Type = Normal,
        Weight = 0.3,
        Icon = BeerCan,
        EatType = popcan,
        Packaged = TRUE,
        StaticModel = BeerCan,
        WorldStaticModel = BeerCan_Ground,
        FillFromDispenserSound = GetWaterFromDispenserMetalMedium,
        FillFromLakeSound = GetWaterFromLakeSmall,
        FillFromTapSound = GetWaterFromTapMetalMedium,
        FillFromToiletSound = GetWaterFromToilet,
        Tags = LowAlcohol;HasMetal;EmptyCan;SealedBeverageCan,
        EatTime = 160,

            component FluidContainer
            {
                ContainerName   = NepCanOfFun,
                Opened    = false,
                capacity        = 0.3,
                CustomDrinkSound = DrinkingFromCan,

                Fluids
                    {
                    fluid           = Tequila:1.0,
                    }
            }
    }
}

That's a test item I made a while ago.

[autumn bluff]

how did you get it to not be the ? icon?

[silent zealot]

And it needs a translation entry in Fluids_EN.txt

Fluids_EN = {
    Fluid_Container_NepCanOfFun = "Can of Fun",
}

[silent zealot]

Icon = BeerCan

[autumn bluff]

would you be willing to assist in DMs? its a private mod

[silent zealot]

I worry about anyone storing fluids they can't talk about publicly...

[autumn bluff]

its the container LOL

not the fluid

[silent zealot]

Also, no to DMs -- too much like the work I'm supposed to be doing

[autumn bluff]

hec

[silent zealot]

What is the probelm you're having?

can help in this channel in between work stuff

[autumn bluff]

the ingame item is all undefined. no model, no icon

just ?

[silent zealot]

Where is the texture file for the bottle?

[silent zealot]

rename it to Item_Alfadorbottle_Empty

[autumn bluff]

ah

[silent zealot]

And where is the Alfadorbottle_Empty model? in media\models_X?

[autumn bluff]

ah it was in worlditems

[silent zealot]

actually, that's the wrong question... have you defined the Alfadorbottle_Empty model in a script?

[autumn bluff]

OH

facepalm

[silent zealot]

Try StaticModel = Animal_Bottle and WorldStaticModel = Animal_Bottle

I don't know if you need StaticModel = AlfadorBottle.Animal_Bottle , I've had enough pain trying to use a namespace I stick to Base and prefix everything with "Nep" to avoid collisions.

[autumn bluff]

got to this point

[bronze yoke]

your texture path doesn't match where the texture actually is

[silent zealot]

doublecheck the mesh path as well, the location of your .fbx model

[autumn bluff]

okay thats good now. how do i do the translation string?

[silent zealot]

actually ignore that, the model is loading

[bronze yoke]

rename to Fluids_EN.txt

[autumn bluff]

thank you

[silent zealot]

Again, no idea how that works outside of the Base namespace

[autumn bluff]

its working

thank you again

[ancient grail]

i think you just need to import base? tho im not sure i understood what you mean

they say its best to always have your own module instead of using base
but i prefer to use base if the mod contains few items
i only change it when the mod has more than 5 items
tho recently i just use base
its cuz of the item pickers tab
i dont want to add cluster

[silent zealot]

For the translation strings. If my fluid container itme is Base.NepCan I know I need to make a translation entry in Fluids_EN for Fluid_Container_NepCan, but what if my item is Nepenthe.Can?

How does the translation figure out what to do with Base.Can vs. Nepenthe.Can?

[bronze yoke]

it doesn't

it just uses the item type

[ancient grail]

ah
welp i have no idea
i dont know much of b42

[silent zealot]

Luckily I've never made a mod that adds enough items that putting them in Base was an issue

[bronze yoke]

TIS seem to be moving away from modules as a design, which is fair since they do literally nothing for them and are just a holdover from a completely different system

[silent zealot]

So if using a namespace having the same item name will still cause translation issues?

[bronze yoke]

yeah

[silent zealot]

No wonder I was confused how it work. Answer: It doesn't. 😂

Also, once again thank you for Starlit - I'm learning a lot working through the reflection code to build a stripped down version for Street Smarts so I can add highways without adding the full starlit as a dependency.

[bronze yoke]

🙇‍♀️

[silent zealot]

It's amazing how computers can make complicated things trivial and trivial things complicated.

[autumn bluff]

is there any tag i can use to prevent a clothing item from getting dirty or bloody?

[tranquil kindle]

As for texture of blood being applied only, or overall not getting dirty/bloody so it does not count for Fear of blood trait?

[supple briar]

is there a big list of all the fuctions in PZ

[silent zealot]

Try CanHaveHoles = FALSE,

I think that prevents holes AND blood/dirt

I'm not sure though

[tranquil kindle]

I belive it having false means that it wont ever get damaged. I remember adding it once on piece of armor that had 100% defence and it kept blocking attacks

But blood still will apply

I'd more say that cosmetic=true might be it. I never seen option to wash glasses or earrings as far as i know and those i belive use that line in item script

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Cosmetic

Eh

Doesn't look like it

[rancid cargo]

I've modified the water shader to include new texture samplers but the textures are not appearing ingame. I did put them in \textures folder but that didnt work ofc, so I'm guessing I'd have to put them where those 3 are? Which I'm guessing its one of .pack texturepacks. So how do I load my 2 textures into the game?

[tranquil kindle]

Where did someone get that information thoug?

[mossy crypt]

Is there a special way to add a callback to a Lua event? I'm trying to add a callback to OnClientCommand (on serverside, of course), but it doesn't seem to be executing it

[tranquil kindle]

That does not make any sense. Why wouldint it render 3d item?

[bright fog]

No idea

[bright fog]

Idk either lol

I haven't verified most of the parameters listed on the wiki

[tranquil kindle]

I call bs to be honest

[bright fog]

Was a guy a while ago that created these

[bright fog]

Yea idk what it would mean either

What other clothing doesn't get dirty ?

Watches ?

Necklaces ?

Check these out too maybe ?

[silent zealot]

Clothing with no bloodlcation can't get dirty

but, it does not cover you at all

[bright fog]

Hmm

[silent zealot]

Otherwise, looking at java, clothing will get dirty if it has bloodlocation(s) defined.

[bronze yoke]

most of them are just made up based on what the name sounds like it does

[bronze yoke]

what have you tried?

[mossy crypt]

I've tried creating a local function and referencing it using Events.OnClientCommand.Add(...), like its done with vanilla client commands

and have also tried defining the function straight in Events.OnClientCommand.Add(...)

specifically this, just to debug:
Events.OnClientCommand.Add(function(module, command, player, args) print("onclientcommand: " .. module .. " / " .. command .. " / " .. tostring(player)) end)

[bronze yoke]

that should work, is your file actually loading?

[mossy crypt]

yeah, file is loading

[bronze yoke]

and you're testing in multiplayer?

and you're not checking the client log for server prints?

[silent zealot]

Might not make sense, but cosmetic affects the item rendering in a few places and hides some things in the tooltip.

[bronze yoke]

this is what i had for it: If true, this item does not show any stats in its tooltip and always spawns in perfect condition.

[silent zealot]

There's similar code elsewhere too, because why use an items's method when you can recreate the code in 4 different places?

[bronze yoke]

iirc that method did not exist in build 41

i remember looking at this code when i was trying to work out what cosmetic did myself and i never came across canBe3DRender

[silent zealot]

Could be, someone realizes that the method should be on clothing and then there is no time to actually change anything to use it.

Since they can add a method and be confident nothing wil break while it is not used.

But changing things to use it needs testing

[mossy crypt]

not testing in multiplayer, but i can try rq. my other prints in this same file are appearing in-game in my command console log

[bronze yoke]

client commands don't run in singleplayer

or, wait, no, i think it's server commands that don't...? it's only one of them and it's an incredibly annoying design

[mossy crypt]

hm

im picking apart some actions that use client commands, don't see where else they'd be defined to work in singleplayer otherwise

honestly not sure why it mattered, or why i never tried it, but restarting my game seemed to fix it

[red tiger]

Neat. Someone's touching shaders.

[mossy crypt]

on to the next issue. my goal is to change the appearance of a wall. i'm not sure of the best way, but I assumed changing the sprite would've worked - and it does. it changes the appearance of the wall BUT it stops functioning as a wall and no longer has collision. any ideas anyone? figured it out oop

[pastel wolf]

.. i have NO idea how to make my model show up in game lmao

i got the icon to change! but when equipping the item its just invisible

i'm trying to study how other mods do it but they seem to have different like, syntaxes for their scripts file?

[pastel wolf]

oookay now im crashing when i try to equip the item.. would anyone here a bit more familiar with mods be able to help me out here?

[worn lodge]

in my most recent experience

your model may just be fucked

and or

code

if it doesnt show up at all its the code

if it shows up patchy with missing spots its the model

[pastel wolf]

okay so weird thing, i can't equip it, game crashes, but if i drop it all the fog on the maps disappears?

the model is fine as far as I can tell like, I know how to mesh, fbx viewers are fine with it

[worn lodge]

what are you adding in

its gotta be the code

[pastel wolf]

fishing rod

[worn lodge]

alright

so

check the code

[worn lodge]

the texture

Profishingrod

not ProfishingRod

[pastel wolf]

ah caps is sensitve

[worn lodge]

yea

[pastel wolf]

k i fixed that

that's an easy one

[worn lodge]

you should use visual studio code btw

there are zomboid addons for it

itll make your life wayyy easier

[pastel wolf]

yeah i know using notepad isn't ideal just

i wanted to get a feel for how the files worked and started small

[worn lodge]

fairs

[pastel wolf]

and the syntax and what have ya

[worn lodge]

although im not so sure if no texture will make it invisible id imagine its just a missing texture look

[pastel wolf]

that's probably not the main issue though, because wouldn't it just draw as the red missing texture checkerboard? last night when i was testingg it wouldnt have a ground model just the icon

[worn lodge]

so it crashing must be something else

yeah

[pastel wolf]

another thing is

it lets me drop it on the ground

just not equip it holdon

lemme start er up again and test

[worn lodge]

might be something about what kind of holding youve got it on the code

[pastel wolf]

I basically just completely copied the fishing rod's code

[worn lodge]

hmm

[pastel wolf]

i only gave it a bit less weight and increased the durability by like 2 from 3

[worn lodge]

might be dumb but just

recopy it

see if it still happens

who knows maybe you changed something without noticing

[pastel wolf]

and it shows up as its own thing!

with its own icon, which is a small win

i'll try that in one second

okay so this is odd

when i drop it on the ground

sprites disappear? like the grass sprites outside or the fog?

[worn lodge]

that IS really weird

maybe its like

did you resize the model?

[pastel wolf]

no i sized it to the pz mannequin

which is super tiny all things considered

[worn lodge]

hmm

because to me it sounds like the model is so big it

1

crashes

2

drops on the ground and covers a big area

so it makes grass and fog disappear

[pastel wolf]

maybe

i'll try recopying it first now

okay so i got it to show up

not using its custom sprite anymore though

drops on the ground as its sprite, is invisible when held

but it can be held!

and doesn't crash the game

[worn lodge]

huge

check the model path

maybe thats why it wont show

[pastel wolf]

okay, model path?

[worn lodge]

like the mesh

path

[pastel wolf]

hell I can even fish with it

[worn lodge]

one question

[pastel wolf]

so that's the uhh

models script right?

oh yeah fire away

[worn lodge]

how detailed is your model

its modeled well but how poly

[pastel wolf]

450 polys

[autumn bluff]

random curiosity, anyone have any context for this item tag?

[worn lodge]

because more than 4 vertices for a face wont show

[pastel wolf]

898 tris

[worn lodge]

hmm

so its not that

[pastel wolf]

doesn't fbx automatically triangulate it anyways?

[worn lodge]

no idea tbh

[pastel wolf]

or should I just to be safe go in and triangulate the mesh

[worn lodge]

yeah just to be safe

[pastel wolf]

make surethere are no faces with too many tris

like for sure there is atleast one but presumably it would just be that face

[worn lodge]

oh ya

but it would just not show that one

[pastel wolf]

i'll have to retexture it probably but I saved the project file in substance so it'll be easy to redo

k so the model path

[worn lodge]

what i did to test when my gun wouldnt show was take the vanilla model and put it in place of mine to see if it was a me issue

yeah so like

[worn lodge]

you put weapons/2handed/ProfishingRod

on the mesh

and the other for the texture

on the recopied code right

[pastel wolf]

yeah the models script didn't change

oh actually shit yknow what

there is a little caps issue

i need to remember to camelcase this shit

[worn lodge]

ooh its ProFishing right

yeah

lmao

happens to the best of us

[pastel wolf]

so now i go to the models_x and

[worn lodge]

check the name

if its the same then

[pastel wolf]

still there, properly camel cased

[worn lodge]

try getting in the game and pray it works

[pastel wolf]

doesn't zomboid compile on the fly?

[worn lodge]

ahh

[pastel wolf]

or should i start up a new world just to be sure

or restart

[worn lodge]

id just restart the save

and reload lua

on debug mode itll let you do that

in the start menu

[pastel wolf]

yeah shit i should probably be in debug mode

[autumn bluff]

random mystery for you guys, what is this tag for?

[worn lodge]

spork

but

wait puppers

what

[pastel wolf]

dog food n stuff prolly?

[autumn bluff]

im honestly clueless

[worn lodge]

its just on the spork

so

[pastel wolf]

okay I reloaded, its still invisible in my hands, but nothing has died

[worn lodge]

its a spork tag

[worn lodge]

hmmmmmmm then troubleshoot

add the vanilla rod model

in place of yours

and see if it works or not

[autumn bluff]

okay but the "spork" tag is actually just both fork and spoon tags

[pastel wolf]

drops to the ground as its icon too, its not using the custom one

[worn lodge]

yeah mightve been a tag for something else that was/is planned for later

doggies

[autumn bluff]

odd that its only on the spork then

[worn lodge]

Yea

[pastel wolf]

okay its sprite updated!

still nothing model wise though

but it doesn't crash horrificly when I try to equip it too, so thats good too

and while I can fish with it it doesnt let me swing it

[worn lodge]

what does the console say

did you get on debug mode?

[bronze yoke]

nothing, it doesn't do anything

[worn lodge]

if not do so and check the console

[bronze yoke]

there's a lot of weird references in the code so it's probably just a reference or inside joke

[autumn bluff]

scanned through the lua... found that its referenced in "SpecialItemData_Misc.lua"

attached to a list of dog names

[bronze yoke]

that wouldn't have any connection to tags