mod_development

[fresh lodge]

but apparently i can't have it set up correctly to fire it up OnGameBoot

[bright fog]

Which getFluid ?

Bcs getFluid of a FluidInstance involves having a FluidInstance

[bronze yoke]

if you want the fluid's script you'd be wanting getScriptManager():getFluidDefinitionScript(name)

[bright fog]

Ah I see why I didn't find that lol

I didn't check in the script manager class and instead searched in GlobalObject

[fresh lodge]

ah jeeez

i wrote getFluidScript earlier on

[silent zealot]

The way Fluid definitions are handled is so weird.

[fresh lodge]

Yh mate

The code is very incoherent at points

[silent zealot]

The fluid list is also hard-coded in the java 😦

[bronze yoke]

only vanilla fluids

mods can use strings

it's more of a convenience than hardcoding

[silent zealot]

Modded is FluidType.Modded I guess

[bronze yoke]

i wonder what happened to fluids 25-63

[bright fog]

Maybe mixes ?

Also there's no orange juice but I remember some fruit juice in a devlog regarding automation

[silent zealot]

Mixes track each seperate fluid

[bright fog]

Yea figured

[fresh lodge]

Yes, any user added fluid falls into modded

[silent zealot]

I hope they implement a system that gives names to mixes.

If not I'll make a mod that will name fluid combos that match coktails.

[fresh lodge]

item:getFluidContainer():getPrimaryFluid():getFluidTypeString() through this you get its string name

(from a container)

[silent zealot]

primary fluid == the fluid type there is the most of, from memory

[fresh lodge]

It should

[bright fog]

Isn't that what @old ginkgo does with his mod ?

Mixology

[silent zealot]

Good, I don't have to make the mod. 🙂

[old ginkgo]

Yup. Its got an API too so you can easily make addons for it.

Just gotta insert the ratios to a global table.

[bronze yoke]

remember that we're currently missing an entire brewing skill so these things may come later

[old ginkgo]

It’s such an easy thing it might be something TiS makes themselves.

[bronze yoke]

the fluid system is a little weird and limited because TIS haven't even added the main thing they wanted it for yet

[fresh lodge]

fluid = getScriptManager():getFluidDefinitionScript(fluid) apparently this worked
though i'm not flabbergasted at all that fluid:setAlcohol(proof) does not LOL

Should fluid be Base.XXX or just XXX

not very intuitive this stuff

[bronze yoke]

for base usually both work, but better to be explicit

you can see all the methods available on that object here https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/zombie/scripting/objects/FluidDefinitionScript.html, doesn't seem like there's many setters

a lot (all?) of the new script types are like that unfortunately

you might be able to use Load if it doesn't reset the object or do anything else strange like that

[fresh lodge]

ooooooooofff

Modding stuff at lua level is such a PITA

i'll leave it to TXT

thanks for the help

[pulsar charm]

What did you end up doing instead? I also need to trigger something when manually placing a tile with place item

[true nova]

OnObjectAdded is best for this

[silent zealot]

How do you deal with the output of an API call that returns an Array? (NOT an ArrayList)

Function def/javadocs: public float[] getPolygonTriangles()

get the output: triangles=getWorld():getMetaGrid().Zones:get(2190):getPolylineOutlineTriangles()

stick it into print(triangles): [F@242bdf40

It's as if [F is the object class. Which might be some weird Kahlua name for an array of floats? Except I can't do anything with it. It's not a table so no lua-table style commands work, :size() :length() :get() all fail.

[bronze yoke]

are you in b42?

[silent zealot]

Even weirder: there's a public float[] I can access directly: triangles2=getWorld():getMetaGrid().Zones:get(2190).points

if I print that I can see the data: {13835, 1847, 13846, 1847, 13856, 1852, 13859, 1855, 13864, 1865, 13864, 1875}

But again, I can't figure out any way to access the data

Startlit's Reflection.getClassName says triangles is a [F and triangles2 is a nil

[silent zealot]

yes.

[bronze yoke]

Array.new(getWorld():getMetaGrid().Zones:get(2190).points) https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/zombie/entity/util/Array.html

basically, when you get an array, all you can do with it is pass it around

b42 added this utility class that you can construct from it and use to read from the array

[silent zealot]

hos do you read from it?
a=Array.new(getWorld():getMetaGrid().Zones:get(2190).points)
then print(a:get(0)) throw an error

[bronze yoke]

oh, that's not an array

[silent zealot]

ah, should have been getWorld():getMetaGrid().Zones:get(2190).polylineOutlinePoints

that makes it behave the same as :getPolylineOutlineTriangles()

so a=Array.new(getWorld():getMetaGrid().Zones:get(2190).polylineOutlinePoints)

so a is a Class Array<T>, that utility class you mentioned

[bronze yoke]

yeah

[silent zealot]

OK, with that I can get... empty arrays. lol

but they are working empty arrays

So I'm guessing the raw data gets processed as-needed into polylineOutlinePoints[] and triangles[]

And I will need to deal with the TIntArrayList that is points

which is likely the same as the raw numbers in the map zone data, e.g.:
{ name = "", type = "Nav", z = 0, geometry = "polygon", points = { 8100, 14253, 8100, 14264, 8221, 14143, 8215, 14138 } },
so if I can't figure it out from the TIntArrayList because that class isn't working with Kahlua I can copy-paste the map's data into a lua file and so my own processing on it.

[ancient grail]

what abt b41?

[bronze yoke]

you're fucked

[ancient grail]

[silent zealot]

You make a java mod to convert float[] to ArrayList<float>

[ancient grail]

its fine if its all string or numbers i guess
i can parse it

but if its objects then im stuck

[bronze yoke]

raw arrays aren't used very commonly anyway

[silent zealot]

so none of the TIntArrayList methods work, but print(tinta) works, so I can convert the integers to a string with tostring(tinta) and then process that string back into ints.

[ancient grail]

tint for clothing?

[silent zealot]

no, TIntArrayList

it's an array of integers but special.

It's used within the java, but it seems nothing about it gets exposed through Kahlua.

[red tiger]

I might spend some time and fiddle with Suno and make a True Music pack that's themed around fighting and apocalyptic music.

🤔

Would be a lot of bluegrass and rock.

I'd add this experiment in the list: https://suno.com/s/IbaOegxNQLLPFmif

[silent zealot]

Is there a way to tell VSCode/Umbrella(unstable) that a specific thing is actually a legit global? I don't want to disable the "unknown variable" detection altogether because it picks up my typos.

[bright fog]

Yea

I think so

@bronze yoke should know but it's some special typings

--@global perhaps ?

[bronze yoke]

you can add it in the extension settings i think

[silent zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-meme-aardman-the-pirates-pirate-gif-26563702

I'll worry about it later, thanks for pointing me to the correct place

[bronze yoke]

that's weird, i haven't had to use it personally

is that a vanilla global missing from umbrella?

[silent zealot]

I see the issue, the settings json is missing a comma

VSCode can't even write it's own settings lol

[bronze yoke]

the notoriously difficult to parse json

[silent zealot]

I had a co-worker give me a json config file this week

full of C style comments

WTF

No

that's like something TIS would do in their "lua" config files.

json is intended 100% for computers, 0% for humans and does not support comments. Which makes it a bad choice for config files humans are supposed to configure.

[silent zealot]

Zombie sonar?

[ancient grail]

ye ZedScanner

[silent zealot]

Start Knowing Roads progress.

[ancient grail]

whats this

[silent zealot]

You know how you normally wake up a complete amnesiac who doesn't know anything about their local town?

The goal is to let you start with map knowledge of the roads, at least the major ones.

Alternative use: a Kentucky Road Atlas item that reveals roads, instead of of 100% revealing a rectangle.

probably sandbox options for always start knowing roads/enable a trait to start knowing roads/enable road atlas spawns.

[frank elbow]

What jsonc does to a person

[ancient grail]

how did you pull this off? thats amazing. map api is hard to deal with
ive only manage to Add and remove symbol for my enclosure mod

[silent zealot]

It's not the MapAPI, it's the forage zone data

It's not meant to be used like this, but all zones of type "Nav" are roads

But the map knowledge function only accepts a rectangle, and the data is a mix of rectangle/polyline/polygon so there is some horrible hackery going on

Especially since it's impossible to access the actual methods of the Zone object because they don't covert the list of points into triangles or anything until they are accessed, and the functions are all about "what zones is this square in?" or "draw on a map that supports lines and polygons"

[terse delta]

Dawg that sounds like rocket science

[compact sluice]

guys i got a question about key binding and how they work in lua , for exemple i want to make a console test about the keybinds to be printed whenever i click one
i will use this function , but the issue idk how the keys are called in lua is it by numbers or by something else

local function OnKeyKeepPressed(key)
-- your code here
end

Events.OnKeyKeepPressed.Add(OnKeyKeepPressed)

[terse delta]

I've been waiting something like this for a long time

You should start with some basic map knowledge

[ancient grail]

#1070852229654917180 message

[ancient grail]

#1070852229654917180 message

[compact sluice]

appreciate it man

[bright fog]

The key is an index

A sort of index

It's a number associated to a key

Which you can retrieve with the keyboard class

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Keyboard

[compact sluice]

oh thank you i searched in pz about keys and keyboard and i got nothing

[dark galleon]

is there any documentation about how to convert a mod from b41 to 42? I've got a custom player model I'm trying to port over. The fact I can't use it is like half the reason I still play b41 single player.

[bright fog]

Yes, check pinned messages

Regarding mod structure

[dark galleon]

ty!!! <3

[wet monolith]

hey guys, what's up?

i'm a filmmaker, i work with audiovisuals, but every time i try to play with code i fail. even so, i wanted to throw an idea out here, maybe someone will come up with it.

i do zomboid livestreams, and in a livestream everything happens very quickly. there's no time to clip the right moments.

so i thought, what if there was a mod that identified critical events and automatically sent a !clip in the chat? something like: being bitten, catching fire, dying, setting off an alarm, crashing the car, collapsing from hunger or sleep?

those things that mark the gameplay and would make great clips if they were recorded on the spot.

i don't know how to program, but if anyone likes the idea and wants to try creating it, i'm here. it would be great to see it working

[bright fog]

There is a mod that adds twitch integration, but it doesn't do exactly what you want (but can be a good point to start from to know how to do it) and it requires you to be in a server I believe, local server being enough I think

[wet monolith]

yes, I tried to use it with a lot of patience and vibe coding, but without success 😂

I'm playing on b42 to try to bring the new generation hype to the community, so I believe that running ISOs locally wouldn't be a problem. I just don't really know how to do it, in fact I have no idea.

[frank elbow]

A potential roadblock would be the changes to the web request capabilities of the game—as of b42 (unless something has changed in recent updates) requests can only be made to a few hardcoded domains. This could be bypassed with a Java mod, though. The rest would just be a matter of hooking into events and checking for those criteria

May be worth throwing it in the mod ideas thread, although I've no idea whether people really pick up ideas from there

[wet monolith]

I thought about this more for content production.
In the end, any detail can become an engagement and attract attention.
With automatic capture of critical moments, we would practically have an infinite number of possibilities in this regard.

[terse delta]

Would be nice if devs integrated leaf once it is ready

But they probably won't, since Java code is unsafe

(Can't be read without external tools, has no sandbox to protect system)

[delicate wave]

Anyone know if it’s plausible to get a weapon to be considered two classes? So one weapon would give say both short blade and axe skills?

[bright fog]

Nah I don't think so

[tranquil reef]

Is there any way to turn a vanilla tile into a container without overwriting the tile

[silent zealot]

You can't make a weapon two types, but you may be able to code a mod that gives extra experience in a different skill when you use it.

Start by identifying where the xp gain is, if that's in Lua you can modify it. Otherwise attach an event to the EveryMinute function that checks if a player is using the weapon, checks if the weapon skill has increased, and if it has increases the other skill too.

[silent zealot]

Do you know if tiles with a container are a different java class too one without? That's what stops you converting a normal InventoryItem into an InventoryContainer without making a completely new item

And why changing underpants to a container let's you store stuff in your undies but also deletes all existing underpants in the world.

[tranquil reef]

I figured it was just a property in tilezed. No idea how it works

[silent zealot]

What matters is how the backend works, if you want to change existing tiles and not break things badly. But I don't know the classes involved.

And I'm in bed and it's nice and warm so I can't check 🙂

[tranquil reef]

. hm

[terse delta]

If I was a game developer I'd make lua bridge for modding too just out of spite

[daring finch]

how do you basically make a true music mod

tryna add songs

[frank elbow]

True Music has a guide to making add-ons on its mod page somewhere. You should follow it, but set the mod page to be unlisted if it's just for personal use

[silent zealot]

If a mod is for personal use in single player you don't even need to upload to steam

[silent zealot]

Decided to learn some lua "object oriented" stuff to clean up the mess of code going into converting piles of numbers to map revealing data.

[hidden compass]

I would like to add a setting of type string in sandbox-options.txt and specify “comma delimited string” as the default value.
However, if I do the following, “only up to the first comma is displayed” (and double quotes are also treated as strings) as shown in the attached image, is there any better way?

option P4SeesawGame.ExcludedSkillCap
{
    type = string,
    default = "Fitness,Strength,Lightfoot,Nimble,Sprinting,Sneak",
    page = P4SeesawGame,
    translation = P4SeesawGame_ExcludedSkillCap,
}

[plush salmon]

what's a good simple project to start with if i'm trying to get into modding? adding an item or something like that?

[plush salmon]

also what software do I need to open the model files?? i've never seen ".x" before

guess i'll try blender

no... blender doesnt recognize it

[obtuse aurora]

.x is an directX image file for rederning 3d graphics

you can use it with blender with custom exporters

or with directX SDK plugins

[south bluff]

this isnt really a question for developing mods but a technical question
what are the colors for moodles in b42? i need to get the hex color codes but i dont know where the game handles it

[silent zealot]

I bet the parser is programmed to ignore quotes and stop at the first comma.

[hidden compass]

Yes, that is my guess as well. If so, I plan to make it a semicolon delimited setting, although the format will be different from other settings in vanilla.

[silent zealot]

Fixed up the implementation of polygons/polylines, added a probability-per-map-unit so it's not overly filled in around cities/the disjointed bits don't stand out.

And a circle of knowledge intended to be around your starting location, on the basis that you know where you live/work.

[mellow frigate]

I used a sandbox string parameter for Architect mod that does the same + a key:value association. option Architect.ItemCostPerSquare { type = string, default = Base.Plank:0.25;Base.Nails:1.0001, page = Architect, translation = Architect_ItemCostPerSquare, } ```lua
function Arc.extractAssociationListFromString(sandboxAssociationString)
local associationList = {}
for association in string.gmatch(sandboxAssociationString, "[^;]+") do
if association then
local key = nil
local value = nil
for result in string.gmatch(association, "[^:]+") do
if key == nil then
key = result
elseif value == nil then
value = result
break;
end
end
if key ~= nil and value ~= nil then
associationList[key] = value
--todo else log error
end
end
end
return associationList
end

[frank elbow]

The reason commas don't work is that the parser for mod options looks for a comma to get the next parameter & doesn't actually read strings with quotes (i.e., the quotes are considered part of the value for the default)

I've done similar with semicolons. The default just can't have commas, unless there's some hacky solution but it'd likely still involve a comma placeholder

[fleet bridge]

Comma will screw up the string. You need to use some other delimiter

[silent zealot]

If only there were well documented file formats with pre-existing libraries for every major programming language that could be used instead of custom coding something unique every time you want a new type of thing in a config file.

[fleet bridge]

local function splitString(sandboxvar, delimiter)
    local ztable = {}
    for match in sandboxvar:gmatch(delimiter) do
        table.insert(ztable, match)
    end
    return ztable
end

Use the appropriate delimiter based on what you like

[manic forum]

Why is the range of component CraftBench so big, is there a way to set the range down (screen is range)

[simple bluff]

Hey everyone!
I try to add a new box of ammo (7.62x49mm). So far everything works great, the item appears in the inventory.
The only issue is: I can’t get it to open like regular vanilla ammo boxes (with the “Open Box” context menu option).
I’m wondering: do I actually need a custom Lua script to make the box open, or is there a base-game system that handles that automatically if set up correctly?
Thanks

[bronze yoke]

you need a recipe

basically everything like that is implemented with crafting

[terse delta]

Everything is a recipe now smh

[plush salmon]

yeah like these guys said, you need to create a recipe that just turns the box of ammo into a certain amount of individual bullets

[simple bluff]

Oh ok thanks !

[jagged zodiac]

i have an idea for a trait

(negative)

so hmo

ptsd trait

[simple bluff]

Hello again ! 👋
I'm working on a custom weapon mod that uses 7.62x39mm ammo, and I'm trying to make multiple types of bullets for it (standard, FMJ, HP).
I managed to create different items and boxes for each type, and I can open/close the boxes just fine.

But here's the issue:
I want my magazines to accept all three types of bullets, but currently, it only accepts the standard ones. FMJ and HP bullets won’t load into the magazine.
Any ideas ? I can give more infos if it's not enough.
Thanks

[bright fog]

Natively, you can't use different ammo for a gun

It would require some more complexe Lua codes to handle it

[simple bluff]

oh ok...i'll try the more complexe Lua code...but Thanks

[brave bone]

anyone wanna try my mod? need some feedback.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3504753006

[silent zealot]

At minimum you need to patch:

Puting bullets into a magazine
Removing bullets from a magazine
Loading magazine into gun
Unloading magazine from gun
Racking gun

If a magazine can have mixed bullets, it's even more work. If you care about the bullet in the chamber being different to the ones in the magazine after a change of mags, more work. You also need an interface for the user to select what they want to do.

To be honest, the gun fighting in Zomboid is so simplified that I don't think it's worth having multiple bullet types.

If you're on B41 if consider making Britas guns/gunfighter mod dependencies and using their code, which does have multiple ammo types per calibre implemented.

[half knot]

Guys, I created some great builds on my server. Is there a way to take the local files and turn them into a map mod?

[simple bluff]

@silent zealot Thank you!

[late hound]

Mirror Mirror on the wall....which mod has broken my game after all?

[bright fog]

No

You could perhaps create a tool that output a file which is formated for building mapping

[bright fog]

@slim swan Hey do you have a git of your NeatUI lib ?

Also do you have a github wiki for it ?

Or an equivalent

[slim swan]

not yep,still studying the XUI,and working on a doc to explain how the ui or texture work in pz

[bright fog]

Alright because I'll document your library on the wiki

So having links to every resources your mod gives available online can help me document it even better, but that can be added later

[slim swan]

but maybe later? cas this library still got so many things needs to do ,the only thing u can do is use the ScrollView for now

[bright fog]

Alright np

[tribal light]

heyo!

if i wanted to make a mod

that adds a new foragable item and some crafting recipes

how would i do that?

[silent zealot]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding has lots of resources!

Including recipes (note that B42 craftrecipes are very different to B41 recipes)

For adding items to foraging tables, have a look at media/lua/shared/Foraging/forageSystem.lua

I wouldn't 100% trust instructions in a vanilla lua file, but the comments at the top shoudl help you get started

[quaint delta]

Ive changed the file stucture to try to make my mod work on b42 and now when i try to start a save in debug i get this, b42.9.0

[bright fog]

Did you do what the message tells you ?

[quaint delta]

looking at the console.txt but ngl idk what half this stuff means

just want my silly potions on b42 x3

[bright fog]

You should get an error message of some kind in your console

Start from the bottom going up

[finite scroll]

does anyone know of a way to detect whether you're in the character customization menu? (specifically the appearance/clothing one)

[winter bolt]

i think it might be possible to check if the menu object is enabled but im not sure

[tight elm]

CharacterCreationMain.instance and CharacterCreationMain.instance:isVisible()

[bright fog]

Definitely possible

Most UI stuff are Lua sided

And that's one of them

[finite scroll]

thank you!

[silent zealot]

Do your options have recipes? They changed syntax in B42 and the game does not handle incorrect recipes well. (Or it could be a bunch of other things)

[silent zealot]

Otherwise, like Sir Doggy said look at console.txt starting from the bottom and going up, looking for problems (with the caveat that there are plenty of error messages when Zomboid does work properly!)

The word "exception" is usually a good search term, it picks up places where lua breaks.

[mint reef]

Hello Madams/Sirs. If there is no trunk capacity in the script of the car it means its vanilla? and If I want to increase the capacity I should add new script line to increase the capacity?

[main pasture]

If the trunk is from a template, the capacity is defined there. You can change values of the used template for the script it's included in by creating a part with the same name and defining just the values you want to edit```template = Trunk/part/TruckBed,

part TruckBed
{
...
container
{
capacity = 100,```

[mint reef]

Thanks ive got it there are other cars with the same script line and some doesnt have

[slim swan]

This new XUI debug window already seems to include many features that make customization easier, but for some reason, it was never completed.

[bright fog]

Bcs it's still wip

[jolly goblet]

Greetings everyone. Friends, I have a question: how do I configure the map so that it has a thumbnail view at the bottom and so that it focuses on the space where my map is located?

Sorry if you see the message repeated. But I asked on another channel and they told me it's more likely to receive help this way.

[bright fog]

It's defined in your map.info if I remember right

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Map.info

Yes

ZoomX

ZoomY

ZoomS

[bright fog]

Check it out

[candid egret]

Recently someone has asked me on one of my moodle mods if I could make a mod that adds moodles dependent on the severity of the stats (e.g., as pain stat increases to a threshold, a different sprite for a pain moodle shows, in which there is more wincing). The user didn't specify B41 or B42. As someone with basically no coding experience, I was wondering if this is even feasible? This sounds like a really cool idea I would like to pursue, but I don't know how and even if this is something that could be made. Theoretically, if this was possible, I would most likely need someone with experience in coding in order to make this a possibility.

In short, this seems like a cool idea, but I want to know if this is something that could even be made, and work in-game.

[bright fog]

Just to be sure, you mean showing basically which direction the stat evolves ? If it's increasing or decreasing ?

[candid egret]

Yeah, variable sprites for moodles which activate when a stat increases/decreases to it's next or previous level. An example, which the original commenter used, would be the different levels panic, and at each different level a new sprite would show.

[bright fog]

But that's already the case

No ?

There's already a different sprite at the different levels ?

Level 1 to 4 usually ?

[candid egret]

I don't think so, it's usually the same moodle for every level, and a modder sometimes includes different colored backgrounds representing each level

[bright fog]

Oh no you're right it doesn't change

Well that's probably doable with the moodle framework

[bronze yoke]

you'd have to replace the moodles with a custom implementation, there's a few mods that do that

moodles aren't really moddable at all

moodle framework wouldn't be good as afaik it can't replace vanilla moodles

that lua moodles mod probably can do this

[candid egret]

Maybe I could check that mod out, see what its capable of. Thanks

[bright fog]

Which one ?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3395171770

That one ?

[bronze yoke]

i think so

i don't know much about it, the only reason i know about this mod is i worried they'd stolen my code since i'd done this already 😅 but they didn't, completely different codebase

[bright fog]

Yea I remember that mod

I feel like it's not enough used

Might be a better alternative than the moodle framework from tcherno, tho I guess both do different things in a way

Also both might be incompatible ?

Moodles framework mods

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Moodle_Framework
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Moodles_in_lua

[candid egret]

Thanks for the help, guys. Both of you

[mint reef]

What about in ki5 I want the capacity to be change in a specifc car only and not affecting the other one like porsche911 mod by ki5 I want to change the capacity for porsche911rwb and not porsche911turbo.. I did some name changing like adding "custom" in script like template and part and txt but doest seem to be working

[compact sluice]

#1070852229654917180 message
can someone explain to me from where keyNum came from?

i am blind i got it 🙃

[chrome veldt]

Hey everyone! I recently made a mod that allows you to attach bags to a sheet rope to lift them up afterward, I'm using the setters from the extended 3D placement (setWorldX/Y/ZRotation and setOffX/Y/Z) to create attachment slots for the bags. I'd love to port it to build 41 but the extended 3D placement is from build 42. Is there any way to reproduce a similar behavior in build 41? (ideally setters for translations / rotations)

[silent zealot]

Do you want to make a mod, or just adjust it for personal use?

[mint reef]

adjsut it for personal use

[silent zealot]

It's been a while since I've done it but you should be able to add capacity = 300 to a specific car's trunk, which overrides the template

Just be aware some KI5 vehicles have a trunk which is normally hidden and a special K15trunk with nicer graphics on the UI that is the actual one to edit.

Otherwise you end up with two trunks.

[mint reef]

so I just need to copy the trunk.txt file and just change the capacity?

[silent zealot]

no, don't copy any files

just edit the one you want changed

This will get overwritten if the mod is updated, but KI5 does not update often (at all?) once released

[mint reef]

they have the same part the rwb and turbo wouldnt it also change the turbo?

[mint reef]

they have one specific script which is the

[silent zealot]

that is the template

that gets used here

I think you can override settings under that, or just change the template so both 911s get the change, or you could make a new template PRS82TrunkCompartmentBig in the template file and change one of the cars to use that.

You may also find you need to spawn a new car or repair the trunk to update capacity before the change takes effect

[mint reef]

ah Ill try

[silent zealot]

at least the tiny capacity makes sense for a 911

If you've ever looked at the storage space it's tiny. Unlike, say, a full sized station wagon (100 units) or pickup truck (110)

[mint reef]

Like this?

[silent zealot]

Might be limited to 500

but give it a go

Zomboid has really wierd ideas on limiting container sizes

[mint reef]

The trunk disappears

This what I did

oh I didnt change the template txt file

I did it but the other parts gone missing lol

[silent zealot]

is that template file all you changed? looks like something else was altered by accident, check the timestamps on the files.

Not sure which file you changes there - my suggestion is copy the PRS82TrunkCompartment as PRS82TrunkCompartmentBig in the template_PRS82_trunk.txt

then in 82porsche911rwb.txt change line 238, template = PRS82TrunkCompartment, -> template = PRS82TrunkCompartmentBig,

And then hope the part models aren't tied to the template names somehow

[mint reef]

apparently theres an extra bracket and ive removed it and its working perfectly fine now thanks

[crystal idol]

Hi, I'm new to modding and Blender. I took the pouch legs from the Scrap Armor mod (2658619264). I respected the position and size to change the image to a plushie, but when I equipped it, the texture covers the entire screen. Do you have a guide to verify where the error might be?

I don't have any error messages in the game. As a container, it's working fine; it's just the texture that's failing.

OOOh forget it, I replace de .FBX files with .X files and now its working

[silent zealot]

Probably an issue with the item scale - Zomboid has weird quirks about how the model needs to be set up in terms of both size AND the scale parameters.

.fbx will work, but if export to .x hides the issue - that's easy.

[bright fog]

That's absolutely not a solution

.fbx >>>> .x

And I can bet you just did a mistake somewhere

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/File_formats#Modeling_and_animation_formats

Jesus why do the devs keep using this freaking format, modders keep thinking they need to use it

[crystal idol]

Of course, I could have made a mistake. I have less than 10 hours of experience with Blender. Where do you recommend I start looking? Because I don't want to have to export to OBJ and then export with FragMotion to X. It would be much easier to export directly from Blender to FBX.

[bright fog]

Just remove the .x format from your brain, do not approach it

[rich dagger]

Hi was wondering if someone could help me out? for some reason I cannot get the jacket and my pants to appear in my mod - I tested them and it worked fine but for some reason now that im getting ready for release its not showing up 😩

[grim cedar]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3507414805

[silent zealot]

First thing to check:

Blender has a concept of transforming an object (rotate, scale, location) that doesnt' actually change the object - just where it is/what size it is in the scene.

Zomboid has... lets say "quirky" interactions with this.

I'm not certain what the values need to be for clothing meshes, but it's worth applying any the transformations (Ctrl-A Apply all/apply scale/etc) and re-exporting the fbx.

Also, make sure you select the mech to export and then click "only selected" when exporting since you can really confuse Zomboid if there are other meshes/other items included.

[crystal idol]

Well, Im sure the issue is in other place, I left one X (working, right leg) and the other FBX (non working, left leg)

[terse delta]

What's the function for adding item into inventory?

[silent zealot]

https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/zombie/inventory/ItemContainer.html

addItem, AddItem, AddItems, AddItems or AddItems.

Depends if you are adding an InventoryItem, giving the name of the object and a new one will be created, or giving an arrayList of InventoryItems,

If you need to get the player inventory, something like getPlayer():getInventory():AddItem(...)

[main pasture]

inv:AddItem(flashlight)```

[silent zealot]

OnNewGame only fires once per character, so the getHoursSurvived check isn;t needed.

Unless there is wierdness with that event and multiplayer.

Or B41 is different to B42.

I was curious how DoAddItem and DoAddItemBlind differed from AddItem so I looked them up.

[terse delta]

1. Doesn't works
2. It also broke mod that used the same function lol

[main pasture]

inv:AddItem("Base.HandTorch")``` works for me. What function?

[heady kiln]

does anyone know if the devs are planning to expand upon explosives and bombs in PZ? i've started planning out a mod but i don't want to dedicate myself to this if its all going to be added anyway before i finish

[terse delta]

My mod

Mod I ripped code from

When my mode is activated, NoStarterPistol ceases to work

but functions and variables are local, so they shoudn't conflict, I think

[main pasture]

Maybe the earlier function in the event is replaced with the new. I'm not sure how they are saved, but maybe worth testing renaming OnNewGame

[solar rover]

Could use a hand with a trait check. I cant find "Angler" in https://projectzomboid.com/modding/zombie/characters/IsoGameCharacter.CharacterTraits.html or in https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/zombie/characters/traits/CharacterTraits.html#

I'm trying to have my fishing UI check for the trait to know how much info to display.

Hope to release this fishing rebuild soon. Any help would be great, thanks all!

[bright fog]

That's not how this works

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/InventoryItem

This should have a section on how to do it

[bright fog]

You're mistake here is assuming the module + item ID is referenced to in Lua like that but that's different

Module.ItemID needs to be a string

And you need to instanciate an InventoryItem which then gets added to the inventory

[terse delta]

So, just writing out item id isn't enough?

[bright fog]

No that's just not a thing

[compact sluice]

can someone explain to me what is "derive" used for in lua coding?

[bright fog]

This will create a subclass to the one you call derive on with the name you've put as the argument of derive

Which is usually the same name as the variable you associate it to

So basically the new class will inherit the methods from the parent and create a whole new class that you can add other extra stuff to

And classes in Lua are not exactly classes but they are tables

[terse delta]

I just dip when I see parenting lol

[compact sluice]

so if we have a base game function and make a derive for it ,it less ass add other lines of code without screwing the parent function code right?

[solar rover]

I'm wondering if "Angler" does have a different name and that's why it's not in the github or triggering for me >_>

I just want to be finished with this mod and I think Im close lol. My poor players Im sure want me to move on.

[bronze yoke]

fwiw it's not necessary to instantiate an item before adding it to a container, you can just pass the item id to the container and that will instantiate it for you, saving a java call

[bronze yoke]

this code is old, traits don't have to be registered here and newer ones generally aren't

[terse delta]

so why this shi doesn't works?

What I did wrong?

[bronze yoke]

traits just use string identifiers, you can see traits being created in the vanilla lua

[solar rover]

hmm so using "angler" in the string should work then yeah? was running with local hasAnglerTrait = self.player:HasTrait("Angler")

    local hasAnglerTrait = self.player:HasTrait("Angler")
    if hasAnglerTrait then
        panel.height = 120  -- Full height with all details
    else
        panel.height = 45   -- Shorter height with just basic conditions
    end

[bronze yoke]

probably, they don't always line up with the translated name though

[solar rover]

Ahh gotcha, I'll go digging

[bronze yoke]

the file they're created in is called something like MainCreationMethods

[solar rover]

Good memory thats exactly it

    local fisher = TraitFactory.addTrait("Fishing", getText("UI_trait_Fishing"), 4, getText("UI_trait_FishingDesc"), false);
    fisher:addXPBoost(Perks.Fishing, 1)
    fisher:getFreeRecipes():add("Make Fishing Rod");
    fisher:getFreeRecipes():add("Fix Fishing Rod");```

Thanks albion!

I'm ready to be done with this rebuild... now my players remind me that they cant do anything with a 160lb paddlefish in their inventory lol

Time to build a fishing journal that adds the fish and removes the item.

Works like a charm! Woo

[bright fog]

No that's two different things

[bright fog]

True, I think you're right actually

[bright fog]

Derive is not a generic Lua thing, it's defined by PZ Lua

And it derives classes NOT functions

Basically it derives tables in a way

So it sort of makes a copy of the table which holds functions

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/ISBaseObject#Object_inheritance

As for modifying existing functions without overriding it, see decorations

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Lua_(language)#Decoration

[bronze yoke]

tbh i think we should give up the 'fake classes' pedantry - i think it's confusing for newcomers, and there isn't really anything special about lua's classes that really lets you definitively call them not 'real classes'

[bright fog]

I guess, tho I thought you thought the inverse lol ?

[bronze yoke]

metatables are obviously directly designed to allow you to implement OOP with them and the way lua classes typically end up working is fairly similar to how compilers actually implement classes

[bright fog]

So we offficially call them classes ?

[bronze yoke]

i don't see any reason not to basically

the only real distinction between lua and 'OOP languages' is that lua doesn't have a language level concept of classes, but you absolutely can create classes in it

[bright fog]

Alright

So classes

[frank elbow]

I think a lot of people would benefit from a deeper understanding of metatables, esp. if the PZAPI.UI pattern is used more—better to know what's happening imo

But I agree that it isn't all that useful for newcomers. I guess this is just me wishing metatables didn't seem like dark magic to everyone lol

[bronze yoke]

yeah people are really scared of them 😅

[compact sluice]

I understand now i will do more research so i understand more thank you

[chrome veldt]

Well, I’ve tried my best to find something but couldn’t, best I’ve found it the regular placement methods :/

[bright fog]

No one will download that

Make a git repository

[agile nacelle]

ScrapCases (2).zip

[silent zealot]

You'll get a better response if you describe the problem in more detail - "there's no button to open the case" isn't very clear.

There isn't anything in vanilla zomboid I'd describe as "you press a button and a case opens." This may be a language barrier, but it's not practical to look at a mod without any idea of what it is meant to do or how it is broken.

[agile nacelle]

About my vehicle collision destruction mod, been a little busy lately... But anyways i don't think i want to predict vehicile collision using raycast anymore, I've been wondering if it's possible to simply create an Object the size of the car and Position that object ahead of time according to the vehicle velocity, and using that new Object to detect what other objects intersected with it... I don't want to use raycasts because they get terribly laggy and am having a lot of difficulties with using it.

[chrome veldt]

What I used in one of my mods to detect a crash was to check for vehicle parts damages on playerUpdate. I don't know how much it impact FPS but I haven't got a single comment regarding lag.

You'll have to search through the worldobjects in front of the car and guess which one you hit tho.

[rich dagger]

For some reason I cannot get my clothing icons to appear. I have all of the icons in the texture dirrectory and they are properly named in the script.

[steady fable]

nepenthe i see the easy distributions mod is doing well

[silent zealot]

@agile nacelle do you need to know before the crash happens, or just that a collision of sonem type did happen?

[steady fable]

i havent updated box more in a while but im happy i helped you

[rich dagger]

nvm ffs I think I figured it out.

[steady fable]

survival rifle is also cool but after the great plane crash into my house it was the only thing left

miraculously

[steady fable]

(one of the week one events is a plane crash)

[agile nacelle]

Sorry but am trying to predict a crash, not when it actually happens

[agile nacelle]

Yes

[silent zealot]

Great advertising material there - a photo of the plane crash devastation with you standing out the front holding the rifle. "Folding Survival Rifle: The Ultimate Survivor!"

[silent zealot]

yes to before, or that it happened lol?

[steady fable]

well now let me show you

[agile nacelle]

Before

[steady fable]

i didnt have the survivor rifle equipped at the time and by that point i put it in my car

[silent zealot]

The dashboard flickering effect on damage in cars is just a check every 10 ticks to see if the condition has gone down.

[agile nacelle]

The reason why i need to predict a crash is to prevent the vehicle from coming to a full stop because of an actual collision

[silent zealot]

Good luck; I think most of what you'd ideally use is hidden away in the java bullet physics libraries.

[agile nacelle]

I looked at the decompiled pz code how it detects a collision and i didn't really get far to find out how it detects object intersecting

[agile nacelle]

Noted

But i also would like to know if it's possible to create an invisible object just for checking intersections

[silent zealot]

https://github.com/bulletphysics/bullet3 <-- I expect it will be of zero help, but that's the physics library used for cars (before modified for Zomboid)

[silent zealot]

are those corpses all naked?

What sort fo plane was that!

[grizzled fulcrum]

wait really? jesus christ

them not using events for stuff is not a first tho

[silent zealot]

yeah, I was sad when I discovered that.

[steady fable]

no i take all of their loot and drop it on the ground incase i need it later on

i do it for all zombies on singleplayer at least because my PC can handle it

multiplayer it depends

if i like the loot i drop it

if i dont i leave it

[silent zealot]

Fair enough

[steady fable]

no more hoarding

last save i spent hours putting shit in warehouses by myself

next time its gonna be on multiplayer with new players

tell them "this is how you play" and see how long it takes for them to figure it out

while im in the dev channel so i gotta get on topic

what stuff do yall think should be boxable?

i know liquids and stuff like colas or water should be boxable

but thats tricky

i asked that here before and there wasnt anything conclusive

and on my own efforts it didnt work out

[agile nacelle]

A modder told me that the library that i was using the raycast for, creates an object to check for intersections for the raycast... So i assume it's possible to create an invisible object

[silent zealot]

Full bottles only?

[arctic stag]

The mod should work like this:
I find or receive this item (the case) in some way.
When I open the case, a loot table with item drop chances should be triggered.
After that, the item is given to the player, and a chat message appears saying what item or weapon dropped.

[steady fable]

yes

problem: the liquid water counts as both seltzer water and just water

so when i tried to make a box of water it spat out 6 seltzer 6 regular

[silent zealot]

How do you open the case?

[silent zealot]

SpecialLootSpawns.lua

[steady fable]

savior

[arctic stag]

The code is written in Lua.

[silent zealot]

You could hack that, or just set all bottle back to water after it is done.

[arctic stag]

I'm just a beginner modder and I wanted to create this mod for myself.
Please let me know what I did wrong or what needs to be fixed.

[steady fable]

well the fluidtype when applied as "fluid[Water]" spits that out anyway

[silent zealot]

And the item name is generated dynamically based on the contained fluid.

[steady fable]

i'll have to figure both methods out and see what the pros and cons of each are

[silent zealot]

that function is actually disabled

it's a property of the Base.WaterBottle's FluidContainer

[steady fable]

so i just need a function to change the fluidcontainer upon it opening the box

[silent zealot]

yes, let it make 12 bottle/for each get the fluidcontainer, set it to be full of water.

using an OnCreate in the recipe

[silent zealot]

How is it supposed to work? Right click -> context menu or something else?

[arctic stag]

+🤣

[steady fable]

makes sense

[silent zealot]

Post the function that adds the context menu option

[arctic stag]

I already realized that I made some mistakes in the code.

[steady fable]

i'll work on it at a later date when it is demanded

as is with alot of modders

[silent zealot]

That's a lot easier to help with than "here's a mod, fix it"

[arctic stag]

I'm gonna go explore the internet and learn a bit more

[arctic stag]

👍

[silent zealot]

My big oops for the week: despite deliberately checking to make sure I didn't have an accidental dependency on Starlit, I uploaded a mod with an accidental dependency on Starlit.

Either Starlit's field exposing feature keeps working after reloading lua, or (more likely) I screwed up when testing the mod without starlit active.

But on the plus side I learned more about metables fixing it so it works without starlit!

My summary of lua metatables: "What if anything could be anything? That's a great feature that I'm sure users will not cause loads of confusion with!"

[bronze yoke]

it probably isn't possible for anything i do to persist after lua reload

[arctic stag]

Events.OnFillInventoryObjectContextMenu.Add(function(player, context, items)
...
end).

Is it not a menu call?

[silent zealot]

OnFillInventoryObjectContextMenu is the correct event, what is the code in that function?

Usual approach is get the "primary item" in case items is a table of items, check if it's your item type, and if it iss use context:addOption() to add the context menu

local doDIYContextMenu = function(playerNum, context, items)
    local primaryItem = items[1]
    if not instanceof(primaryItem, "InventoryItem") then
        primaryItem = primaryItem.items[1]
    end

    if primaryItem:hasTag("DIYSchematic") then
        local playerObj = getSpecificPlayer(playerNum)
        readOption = context:addOption(getText("ContextMenu_ReadDIY"), items, DIYonLiteratureItems, playerObj);
    end
end

Events.OnFillInventoryObjectContextMenu.Add(doDIYContextMenu)

[slim swan]

anyone know where is the loading screen script

i want to know how to make this apng work

[sonic needle]

so how this ^ works, is using PZ's new state Engine.

IE, its always "Moving" just PZ itself controls it, sort of like how keyframe's are controlled in animations > FBX

TL:DR, you might succeed in playing one, but you wont have control over it, fine tuning wise

[bright fog]

In textures packs I think

[agile nacelle]

how am i supposed to... get a class in lua???

[bright fog]

What are you trying to do ?

[agile nacelle]

trying to look for a way to check for intersecting objects

[agile nacelle]

^

[agile nacelle]

but how am i supposed to use CollisionManager class when am in lua and theres no methods for aquiring it

in java all you have to do is just import Directory.Goes.Here

import is not a thing in lua so

[bronze yoke]

if this class is exposed you can just access it, no need for anything like importing, kahlua dumps everything in the global namespace

i don't expect something like this to be exposed though

[agile nacelle]

like do i just type its name

how can i be sure if its accessible

[bronze yoke]

if you have a decompile you can check LuaManager.Exposer#exposeAll

and if it is exposed then you just type its name yeah

[agile nacelle]

didnt find it

well

great

gonna have to keep searching

[bright fog]

You're supposed to optimize the raycast do you don't call it every ticks tbf

And also not casting thousand of rays every tile you raycast

Tho the new method you described looks scuffed

[agile nacelle]

true

i just thought maybe making an invisible object for collision detection would be easier and more efficient... so far it seems like that is far from the truth

[bronze yoke]

collision detection just isn't something we have much access to, so something that should be easier may actually be impossible or more complex 😅

[solar rover]

happen to have a replacment update on this? I get really confused when Im using moddata vs global and making sure I dont send the data to a local players files instead of the host files. Mostly I just keep reading MrBounty's page and hoping I get it right

[bronze yoke]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_data

[solar rover]

Thanks boss!

[wet dune]

Wacky probably stupid question but why do my animsets crash the game?

[umbral raptor]

hello hello

[wet dune]

All I did was edit the sprinter animations to use "'bob_sprint" and made them faster

But it no work

[umbral raptor]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3508513470

i hope u guys dont mind if i share my mod, havent released in a while due to being busy 🙂

[bright fog]

B42 ?

[wet dune]

Yes

Sorry for the delay

I can send the full anim sets folder if you wabt

[stone garden]

he must be a beta tester he leaked it

[quiet spoke]

Hi im new to making mods, is it possible to make a clothing item attachable to the belt? i mean i just managed to do that but the model of the item does not show when worn on the belt, only when i equip it in the face. I made multiple masks and i want them to also be able to hang by the waist.

Also i kinda already did that but only by making a new item that gets worn in the thigh and then adding a context menu to swich between both items. But since i have 9 different masks i dont feel like making 9 extra items and having to edit each one of the models to be at leg height since each mask is different.

[eager dagger]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3508590486
i just finished my first zomboid mod, would really appreciate some testers

[arctic stag]

I wrote it like this, and it worked for me..

require "ScrapLootTable"

local function getDropResult(caseType)
local lootTable = ScrapLootTable[caseType]
if not lootTable then
print("Нет таблицы лута для кейса: " .. tostring(caseType))
return nil
end

local totalWeight = 0
for _, entry in ipairs(lootTable) do
    totalWeight = totalWeight + entry.chance
end

local roll = ZombRand(totalWeight)
local cumulative = 0
for _, entry in ipairs(lootTable) do
    cumulative = cumulative + entry.chance
    if roll < cumulative then
        return entry.item
    end
end

return nil

end

local function onOpenScrapCase(player, item)
if not item or not item.getFullType or not player then return end

local caseType = item:getFullType()
print("Открытие кейса: " .. tostring(caseType))
player:Say("Открываю скраб...")

player:playSound("OpenScrap")

local dropItem = getDropResult(caseType)
if dropItem then
    print("Выпал предмет: " .. dropItem)
    player:getInventory():AddItem(dropItem)
    player:Say("Выпал: " .. dropItem)
else
    print("Ничего не выпало из кейса.")
    player:Say("Ничего не выпало.")
end

player:getInventory():Remove(item)

end

local function buildScrapContextMenu(playerIndex, context, items)
local player = getSpecificPlayer(playerIndex)
if not player then return end

for _, entry in ipairs(items) do
    local item = entry
    if not instanceof(item, "InventoryItem") and item.items then
        item = item.items[1]
    end

    if item and type(item.getFullType) == "function" then
        local fullType = item:getFullType()
        if fullType:contains("ScrapCases.Scrap") then
            context:addOption("Открыть скраб", nil, onOpenScrapCase, player, item)
        end
    end
end

end

Events.OnFillInventoryObjectContextMenu.Add(buildScrapContextMenu)

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/AnimNodes

Check the red warning in this wiki page

[wet dune]

What does it mean make copies?

[bright fog]

Basically you need a copy of your animsets inside the B41 mod structure so B42 can detect your animsets, but the animsets from the the B42 mod structure only are really used

This is a recuring bug which the devs have yet to fix ...

And quite an important one

[silent zealot]

So it's working now?

[icy night]

Does anyone know if setChance, in relation to Randomized Buildings, controls the chance for a building to appear as certain type? Such as RBLooted. Or is it used to control the chance of a RB's in general?

[terse delta]

What's the way to delete all corpses from the save?

[wet dune]

Now I'm confused
So would I have two mod folders, one of the b41 file structure and one of the b42 one?

[solar rover]

Hmmm I'm having a hard time getting a font color change on ISScrollingListBox, it doesnt seem to work the same as ISLabel?

[silent zealot]

it's a hashmap, so it's... weird.

But some "random" stories will always trigger when a new chunk is loaded

However I do think the immediate answer is the chance is just the weighting that a specific story will be chosen once the game decided to use a random building story.

But if you change that then you need to also rebuild the hashmap and somewhere else it calculates the totalchance (sum of all chance values) so that needs to be redone too

bonus from my notes: here's how to manually force Kate and Baldspot to show up; just run this when close enough to their house that it is loaded in the active cell.

kb=RBKateAndBaldspot.new()
kb:randomizeBuilding(IsoCell.getInstance():getGridSquare(10744,9409,0):getBuilding():getDef())

[mint reef]

in the car script which line is responsible for stronger ramming of zeds.. like number of zeds can stop you before your car stops moving?

[silent zealot]

It's probably a combination of mass and speed. Do some experimenting - boost a vehicles mass & engine power, see how you do ramming zombies.

[terse delta]

It will make a number on how vehicle rides by default tho

[quiet spoke]

hey im checking the hammer item and i have a question, where does it say what model to use? or is it specified somewhere else?

    {
        DisplayCategory = ToolWeapon,
        MaxRange    =    1.1,
        WeaponSprite    =    Hammer,
        MinAngle    =    0.67,
        Type    =    Weapon,
        MinimumSwingTime    =    3,
        KnockBackOnNoDeath    =    TRUE,
        SwingAmountBeforeImpact    =    0.02,
        Categories    =    SmallBlunt,
        ConditionLowerChanceOneIn    =    30,
        Weight    =    1,
        SplatNumber    =    1,
        PushBackMod    =    0.5,
        SubCategory    =    Swinging,
        ConditionMax    =    10,
        MaxHitCount    =    1,
        DoorDamage    =    9,
        CanBarricade    =    TRUE,
        SwingAnim    =    Bat,
        DisplayName    =    Hammer,
        MinRange    =    0.61,
        SwingTime    =    3,
        KnockdownMod    =    0,
        SplatBloodOnNoDeath    =    TRUE,
        Icon    =    Hammer,
        RunAnim    =    Run_Weapon2,
        IdleAnim    =    Idle_Weapon2,
        BreakSound  =   HammerBreak,
        DoorHitSound = HammerHit,
        HitSound = HammerHit,
        HitFloorSound = HammerHit,
        SwingSound = HammerSwing,
        TreeDamage  =   0,
        MetalValue = 25,
        CriticalChance    =    20,
        CritDmgMultiplier = 3,
        MinDamage    =    0.5,
        MaxDamage    =    1,
        BaseSpeed = 1,
        WeaponLength = 0.23,
        AttachmentType = Hammer,
        Tags = Hammer;RemoveBarricade,
      }

[atomic oracle]

Trying to upload a mod to steam workshop and it is saying I have no mod.info file when I have one in C:\Users\REDACTED\Zomboid\Workshop\MODNAME\Contents\mods

Mod works in game so must have the file organization wrong

[solar rover]

Where is your mod.info at the moment?

[atomic oracle]

The file path location of mod.info is in my initial message

[solar rover]

well... if youre saying that mod.info is in the mods folder that is incorrect if youre saying its in C:\Users\REDACTED\Zomboid\Workshop\MODNAME\Contents\mods\MODNAME then that is correct

[atomic oracle]

K Ill do that

[atomic oracle]

Worked. Thank you so much

[arctic stag]

• In this form, yes

[silent zealot]

WeaponSprite = Hammer

"But a sprite is not a 3D model!" I hear you cry.

[solar rover]

we all cry

[silent zealot]

You are correct.

[quiet spoke]

i am crying

[silent zealot]

But it's a holdover from Zomboid being a 100% sprite based game.

    model Hammer
    {
        
        mesh = Weapons/1Handed/Hammer_Forged_Hand,
        texture = Weapons/1Handed/Hammer_New,

        attachment world
        {
            offset = 0.0150 0.1100 0.0000,
            rotate = 180.0000 0.0000 180.0000,
        }

        attachment Bip01_Prop2
        {
            offset = -0.0131 -0.0221 0.0007,
            rotate = 0.0000 -86.9102 0.0000,
        }
    }
``` the model definition then looks like that

[quiet spoke]

i think that is what im looking for

where is that file located?

[silent zealot]

Yeah, it's not long-term thing but a "confirm if this affects what we think it will affect" thing.

[solar rover]

I dont want to give up on my UI Font color fight but Im not sure what to try next. Does anyone know if you just cannot color ISScrollingListBox font?

[silent zealot]

What are you looking to change?

[quiet spoke]

me?

[silent zealot]

Yes, with the hammer - depending on what you're after we may have more specific pointers

[solar rover]

oh my bad lol

[silent zealot]

that look great... gone. It looks gone. lol

[quiet spoke]

i will try to make it short

[solar rover]

I can post it later but dont want to spam 32's help

[quiet spoke]

im making a mask mod that adds masks as my first mod, i was able to do everything so far, but i also want them to be attachable to the belt

i was able to do that too, but they look like this

facing down and at knee height

[silent zealot]

I can think of two approaches:

1. make a clothing item of the mask-on-belt, and teh user right-clicks to swap - like hoodie -> hoodie-up.
2. use a hotbar slot, which is based on the item having AttachmentType = in the item definition and the hotbar slot accepting that attachment type

And somwhere in the hotbar slot definiton it defines the transform to use for attaching that type of item to that slot.

[solar rover]

You can simply rotate items in blender and export them at the angle you want when its in game. I had to do that a few times with my new fishing rods and my custom mega-wrench for another mod.

The nice part is, if you export/overwrite the item it will update in game live so you can test in blender

[silent zealot]

unless you 1) want different rotation/locations for different uses (e.g.: worn on head & worn on belt)

[quiet spoke]

i was thinking of doing that but i dont know how it would work when worn on the left and right

[solar rover]

Yeah, my method works if you are using the same code for another base item so the bones/model line up.

[silent zealot]

or 2) it's something zomboid is fussy about, like weapons which have to be done just right or attachments won't work and teh bullets come out of empty space

[solar rover]

Getting the fishing rods aligned into the "normal" position also had it correct in hand/back

[silent zealot]

How are you attaching to the belt? Attachmenttype & hotbar slot?

[quiet spoke]

im doing this

    {
        DisplayCategory = Clothing,
        Type = Clothing,
        DisplayName = Orange Korp Mask,
        ClothingItem = ElBabiMasks_Orange_Korp_Mask,
        Icon = Orange_Korp_Mask,
        BodyLocation = MaskEyes,
        CanHaveHoles = false,
        BloodLocation = Head,
        BiteDefense = 10,
        ScratchDefense = 20,
    BulletDefense = 100,
        Insulation = 0.3,
        WindResistance = 0.3,
        WaterResistance = 0.2,
        Weight = 0.1,
        WorldStaticModel = Orange_Ground,
        StaticModel = Orange_Ground,
        AttachmentType = Hammer,
     ToolTip = Tooltip_item_MaskOrange,  


    }

the item is both a clothing and attachable to the belt

[silent zealot]

try attachment type=Walkie

more likely to work than hammer.

Since that is for walkie-talkies are similar, while a hammer is intended to be held by teh bottom of teh handle but is very different when on a belt

[solar rover]

Also has a bit to do with the origin point/0,0,0 position of the model file

[quiet spoke]

almost there, the height is good but still facing down (ignore the texture looking weird, i forgot to fix that)

[solar rover]

I got frustrated when testing mine because if I export something in a position I like it would work, but if I "apply all transforms" It locks in the new zero point and the model in game loads differently

[silent zealot]

you can aply just scale, just rotation etc

Ctrl-A and select from menu

[quiet spoke]

i was thinking of making a static model with the rigth rotation, but it would only look good on one side

unless it is posible to only make it so that it can be attached to one side of the belt

[solar rover]

scale is fun when you forget you had 3 settings and missed one >_>

[quiet spoke]

yeah, that does look like a custom mega wrench

[silent zealot]

Knife = "Belt Right Upside",
NotKnife = "Belt Right Upside",
Hammer = "Belt Right",
HammerRotated = "Belt Rotated Right",
Nightstick = "Nightstick Right",
Screwdriver = "Belt Right Screwdriver",
Wrench = "Wrench Right",
MeatCleaver = "MeatCleaver Belt Right",
Walkie = "Walkie Belt Right",
Sword= "Belt Right Upside",
Holster = "Holster Left",
HolsterSmall = "Holster Left",

see if any of those work better than Walkie. for AttachmentType

[quiet spoke]

will do

nope, walkie still looks the best

the others are either too up or too down, also either facing up or down

where are the AttachmentTypes at? maybe i can make a custom one for the mask and tell it the rotations from there? or make it so that it can only be worn on the left side and make a model with the fixed rotation?

[solar rover]

errr I thought there was a rotation setting on items attached to zeds like the machete in the gut or screwdriver in the head. I dont remember off hand though sorry

[quiet spoke]

well if it exists then i will start looking for it

[silent zealot]

Have a look at https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3253021458

That defines some new points

[solar rover]

So who is our most knowledgeable UI modder?

[silent zealot]

media/scripts/KS_Attachments.txt has the numbers for the new attachments point offsets/rotations

[quiet spoke]

thanks i will look into that

[mellow frigate]

I'd say Notloc or Rocco.

[solar rover]

for now it looks like I can go without the scrollbox and the font color takes.

[atomic oracle]

Quick other question about workshop page. How do I get this image to show that links to the indie stone permisions page?

The link shown is what I have currently

[bright fog]

No, in the same mod

You can mix b41 and b42 mod structure

See the Mod structure wiki page

[terse delta]

You can't make custom one?

[solar rover]

Think I'm just about ready to publish.

[silent zealot]

You can, but's more effort than finding a default one that works since you need to define the new attachment them programatically update existing hotbar slots to support the new attachment type

[silent zealot]

That looks great

[silent zealot]

Also, zombie fish... nasty.

[bright fog]

Oooh

Interesting

[solar rover]

Thanks guys. It's a big rework of fishing in general . Seasons, moon phases, weather and skill can all change catch rates or rod and line breaks. Water tiles are counted in the 40x scan zone to determine how man fish are in the pool 0-40 depending on the setting instead of 25. A fourth size category Legendary which is not only rare but difficult to land. Rod as well as line has a break chance and rods can now be configured with their own stats. Some rods work better on some fish or sizes, bait too can help target a set of fish. I added ten new fish, two new worm types and a plastic lure. Large fish and the trophy fish need a larger size of water and population to catch. Added four rods with different settings but new ones can be configured. The angler trait will show the different fishing condition factors in the casting UI. The Fish journal can be treated a bit like a container of it's own and can be crafted. It can hold up to ten fish per book and removes the fish from your inventory. The fish can be "returned" to your inventory, "Prepared" cut into fillets (some fish can weigh a lot more than your inventory) "Catch and Release" will generate the record of the fish in the Catch Record item.

I hope to tie the items in this mod to Soulfiltchers quest system for tournaments and rod quests.

[simple bluff]

Hello everyone, i try to create a mod for B42 but i don't see it in my game, are the file paths in my mod correctly set up?

Contents/
└── mods/
└── Escape From Knox County/
├── 42/
│ ├── mod.info
│ └── media/...
└── common/
└── media/...

or is it my mod.info ?

name=Escape From Knox County
id=EscapeFromKnoxCounty
author=Baba Yaga
description=a mod.

any ideas ? thanks.

[bright fog]

Looks good but I guess it's missing a poster

I don't think it matters

Which folder did you place your mod in ?

[simple bluff]

Ahh Its What is was thinking about

42

[bright fog]

I don't think that's the reason bcs a mod can work without one

[bright fog]

No

Which pz folder

In the cache folder ?

[brave bone]

This is some mmorpg type of fishing goodness.. 🎣

[brisk remnant]

Yh good job bro that mods going to be top tier and I think it’ll have a lot of people using it lol

[simple bluff]

@bright fog C user zomboid mods etc

[solar rover]

I've redesigned a crafting system with that in mind as well. Failure and critical chances, multiple skills required for some items and skill caps for gains ect,

[brave bone]

I wont be bored anymore when camping near bodies of water. 🙂

[solar rover]

Would you be mad if I added a rare random chance to spawn a zombie? instead of catching a fish you caught a body?

Something to plague my AFK fishing players hahahah

[brisk remnant]

people hate losing progress bro. if that zombie bites them, I doubt they’d love the mod or fishing for a while after it 😂

[solar rover]

Yeah it would be a sandbox setting for sure but Cooterville uses Skill journal with 100% settings

[brisk remnant]

Ah fair enough. Last time I played on a server, they capped it at like 75 or something to keep it entertaining I guess idk 🤷‍♂️

[solar rover]

I want people to be able to PvP if they like and not get set back. Lose your items not your time.. kinda?

[brisk remnant]

Yh that’s fair bro, you seem to have it covered as a toggle setting anyway so it’s choice rather than a default 👌

[green notch]

Anyone has a way to fix the bridges with invisible walls ?

Its annoying as hell

[queen oasis]

have I been using "require=" in the mod.info for B42 wrong this whole time?

[dark galleon]

anyone have tips on how to pull models/textures from the game? I'm trying to rig up my zomboid model as a vtuber, and I need to pull some clothing assets to do it

NEVER tried to do this before so I'm pretty stumped

[bronze yoke]

nope, that's right

without the \ would be for b41

remember that if you used it wrong, the game wouldn't even let you load your mod

[green notch]

Please, for the love of god

I need help to cross the bridges

Those invisible walls are annoying af

[queen oasis]

thanks, that's what I thought but I haven't fired up PZ in awhile

[bright fog]

You need to put it in Workshop, not mods

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_structure

[simple bluff]

Yeah i read it and it says go in the c user zomboid mods if you are creating the mod no ?

[solar rover]

is this a B42 thing

[bright fog]

No you didn't read it ...

You have a whole mod structure example at the bottom of the page too

It's explicitely said in the guide that the workshop folder mod structure should be used bcs it gives more possibility and overall reduce the risk of multiple mod copies

[simple bluff]

Ok

[green notch]

Yup

Massive bug that makes basically all bridges unusable

Besides the main road ones

[solar rover]

Ahh shoot ok sorry, I dont know b42. Good luck!

[true nova]

Sounds like a tile property issue

[terse delta]

This is mapping issue when bridge is treated as water tile

DM @silk wren, he had same issue with Raven creek bridges

[slim swan]

anyone know how to change the game music,like i want to replace the music when fighting etc.

[solar rover]

looking through the plumbing mod and counting up the print statements... thats gotta go.

[queen oasis]

uh oh, I'm making more notes. I gonna need the "learn how to make isometric pixel art" crash course plugged in to my brain

[whole spade]

Guys, do you know all the names of vanilla loot zones? If yes, can you list them?

[mellow coral]

B42 Soul Filcher Building Time transplant made by me, available here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3509299191

[terse delta]

Don't let TIS know that furniture can be painted...

[quaint tartan]

If I wanted to create my own custom evolved recipe template how would I go about doing that? Is it as simple as naming a new template and then giving the items I want as options to add that tag in evolvedrecipe = ?

[mortal escarp]

Anyone have tips for adding custom animation clip to either B41 or B42? I keep getting "anim not found" errors. I need to be using a ".x" files placed within "anims_X", correct? Along with a custom new .xml file defined under "AnimSets", right?

I see B41 mods on workshop using .fbx files, which confuses me. I thought only B42 could use .fbx? Maybe neither can? Animation is kicking my butt lol

[bronze yoke]

both can

if you're getting 'anim not found' then the issue is with the animation file

i recommend using fbx since the exporter for that will work more consistently

the name of the animation track in the animation file is what you need to reference, not the name of the file, so if those don't match that could be the cause of the issue

[quiet spoke]

hey does anyone know what is wrong with my model? it looks like it has a bunch of tiny holes all arround it and is invisible in blender if you look it from a certain side

[bright fog]

I mean, your screenshots of the model in Blender show the holes too ?

[quiet spoke]

yeah, its like its like its filled with infinite holes

[bright fog]

Where did you get this model from ?

Also for modeling specific questions, ask in #modeling or in the case of your issue you can most likely find resources online to fix your problem by just searching your issue on internet

[quiet spoke]

a friend of mine has a friend that makes models for mods, he made a mod and tossed me his files to add more masks

[quiet spoke]

didnt know that channel existed, will go ask there

[bright fog]

You need to show better screenshots of the model in Blender

[civic fog]

hey guys can anyone tell me how to change the icon? (im new sorry)

[bright fog]

Wdym ?

That's an existing item ? Or it's one in your mod ?

[mint reef]

does anyone have a mod for scaffold side to make it breakable by zeds?

[bright fog]

Nop

[silent zealot]

The Icon = sets the icon for when the item is in your inventory. For Icon = Luger, your mod needs a media\textures\item_Luger.png file.

[quiet spoke]

ok so for my mask mod i managed to do everything, and everything works exept one thing

when i set the blood location to "UpperLeg_L" so that the game gives protection when i have the mask worn on the leg the item refuses to work

item ElBabiMasks_Blue_Korp_Mask_Leg
    {
        DisplayCategory = Clothing,
        Type = Clothing,
        DisplayName = Blue Korp Mask,
        ClothingItem = ElBabiMasks_Blue_Korp_Mask_Leg,
        Icon = Blue_Korp_Mask,
        BodyLocation = Mask,
        BloodLocation = UpperLeg_L,
        BiteDefense = 10,
        ScratchDefense = 20,
        BulletDefense = 100,
        Insulation = 0.3,
        WindResistance = 0.3,
        WaterResistance = 0.2,
        Weight = 0.1,
        WorldStaticModel = Blue_Ground,
        ClothingItemExtra = ElBabiMasks_Blue_Korp_Mask,
        ClothingItemExtraOption = Wearonface,
        ClothingExtraSubmenu = Wearonleg,
        ToolTip = Tooltip_item_MaskRed,


    }

it just wont load in the world, and if i try to spawn it i get an error and nothing happens

[bright fog]

You sure that UpperLeg_L is a thing ?

[quiet spoke]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/BloodLocation

i got it from there

[frozen vessel]

Guys, how do I update a mod for Build 42? I'm trying, but it keeps saying that the mod.info file is missing. Even when I test with the template, I get the same error. I've already placed a mod.info file in the Build 42 folder, the common folder, and in the mod's folder.

I've placed it in every location that's required in the Build 42 structure, but it still gives the same error. Even the template throws the same error.

[bold quail]

Hey, bit of a long explanation and question(s). If this isnt the correct place to post, I will apologize and repost elsewhere.

Hey, I had a question about mods, modding and what is and is not possible to do with mods. I have no real experience modding, but I'm working on creating a server and have some ideas for things I might like to add (either requests or commission) and I want to have an idea of how troublesome it would be to do before I start seeking prices. (mostly so i don't get ripped off or ripping off others. If there is anyone out there who might be able to assist, it would be appreciated.

1. With build 42, is it possible to set "zones of effect" for mod activation? Let's say, for instance, I want to have an asset with a right click option to reactivate power or water in an area (not radius).
2. Is it possible to set new assets to a specific location, without creating a whole new map? For example, subway entrances, electrical junction boxes, or even add a right click option to hydrants and telephone poles.
3. Is it possible to a global replace of all assets meeting a specific name; for example, all bathtub assets on the map are replaced with a new asset image? For stuff like cleaning the bathtub, toilets, sinks, doors and other tiles that should be cleanable with mechanics like clean dirt?

Sorry if the text was long, and I will likely have follow-up questions. Again, if this isnt the right place or if DM is better for this sort of thing, please let me know.

[sour island]

The included template is not updated (last time I checked)

Have you read this? https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_structure

[terse delta]

I've never seen coding language based on enchantment table

[brisk remnant]

Copy that whole text you’ve wrote. Download grok on the AppStore. Paste that question in it. Your answer will be long 😂

[bright fog]

1. I believe some recent changes added that
2. Adding right click options to tiles is possible yes, and not hard at all, tho depends what you want too
   Adding new tiles without creating a map is possible, you can place sprites on the map via Lua but the area needs to be loaded
3. you can make texture packs I believe, some mods do that on the workshop, and you can modify tiles from Lua too when doing an action

[frozen vessel]

i did bro and im still getting the error

[bright fog]

Your mod throws an error ?

[frozen vessel]

its working fine

[sour island]

https://tenor.com/view/confusion-huh-gif-22987897

May you share the error (if its still occurring)?

[frozen vessel]

error is the missing mod.info

[terse delta]

Lmao

[bright fog]

Doesn't say it's YOUR mod.info

If you remove these from the cache folder, do you still get the problem ?

Are you on Linux ?

Nah

Wibdows

I could have seen that with the screenshots :|

[bronze yoke]

you have no mod folder

yours is Workshop/'94 Honda Civic EX/Contents/mods/42/mod.info, should be Workshop/'94 Honda Civic EX/Contents/mods/YOURMODNAME/42/mod.info

[bright fog]

Oh yea

Nice catch

[frozen vessel]

oh man, nice!!!! i'll try that

[quaint tartan]

(B42) If I wanted to create my own custom evolved recipe template how would I go about doing that? Would you think its something that would be too much for a beginner?

[simple bluff]

Hello, Is there anything about 3D weapon models in the PZ modding wiki?

[bright fog]

What do you want to know

[bright fog]

You should be fine, try to check vanilla evolved recipes and figure out how these work exactly

Idk if the wiki page regarding these is good enough to understand them

[simple bluff]

Ill try to explain it, so, i try to create a weapon and everything works properly but until now i was using the assault rifle weapon sprite, but now i want to use another weapon sprite but the gun is now transparent

Im sorry im new so idk if i explain it well

And this part is quite difficult for me

[arctic fiber]

Hi guys, do anybody knows where to find the code part of the zombies logic?
and is it possible to mod it with lua?

on b41 and b42

[ancient grail]

probably uv

how exactly did you apply the new the texture

[ancient grail]

zombie is java and xml
yes its possible but its not straight forward

it depends on what you want to do exactly
if you could provide more details

[ancient grail]

you might be looking at the strings that are specific for lua bot for the item scripts
i could be wrong

[ancient grail]

you can modify the object by changing it into thumpable
if that doesnt work despawn the object and respawn it as thumpable

[ancient grail]

name the icon file with prefix Item_

[ancient grail]

probably normals are flipped or vertex isnt assigned to bone

[quiet spoke]

thanks for the answers, i just made it not give defence when worn on the leg and the model was fixed but i still dont know how

the good thing is that everything works and i will be posting it tomorrow or the day after

[frozen vessel]

Ur the best!!! thx so much

[quaint tartan]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Evolvedrecipe_(scripts)

This does a pretty solid job of explaining everything. But because Im trying to use a custom template for the evolved recipe to define my own ingredient list Im running into problems I think? Or should it be that simple

[arctic fiber]

what I want to do is
Set a target
Make it so that the zombie is not able to attack or set the damage to zero
Access the zombie's inventory while the zombie is still alive

[ancient grail]

inventory spawn when the zed turns to corpse item
you can only fetch visual or add items you wish to spawn when it dies

to set target
you use setTarget()

to prevent damage you use the zombies ln hit event and nullify the damage

to prevent then from attacking its tricky
you can use the cheats but thats not adviseable
or set useless but that has issues too
or you spam setTarget(nil)

[bright fog]

Wdym by template ?

[trail ibex]

Hi, I'm trying to write a mod to spawn my character at specific coordinates. I have gotten it to show up in the world selection and spawn location; but when I use my spawn, my character spawns in seemingly random locations like the prison. My best guess is that it is skipping over my spawn list. I'm not really sure how to remedy this.

[bright fog]

Do you teleport the player ?

[trail ibex]

I don’t think so. How would I do that?

[bright fog]

What did you do to add a spawn point ?

[trail ibex]

Here is the code

I referenced the example mod.

[bright fog]

Wrong coordinates ?

If it's a for map spawnpoints, use this system, not a teleport

[trail ibex]

How do I make them right?

[bright fog]

How did you get these coordinates ?

[trail ibex]

i used another mod,

[bright fog]

You didn't modify the coordinates...?

:|

[trail ibex]

no

[bright fog]

What did you expect exactly ? 😭

[trail ibex]

That it would put me in a consistant place

[bright fog]

But you have multiple coordinates here

[trail ibex]

Oh

[bright fog]

Oh wait no you don't

I'm unsure how these coordinates are used but they don't look like x y coordinates

Check the mapping Discord

[trail ibex]

They look the same to the ones on the example mod

[bright fog]

They should have some resources regarding custom spawn points

[trail ibex]

I think I forgot to ad a z position

[bright fog]

Nah

Don't think it matters ?

Anyway

Check the mapping Discord

[frank elbow]

I believe the function name should be SpawnPoints, not Spawnpoint

Not able to double-check at the moment

[trail ibex]

I’ll check tomorrow, thanks

[silent zealot]

Map Cell X, Map cell Y, x in Cell, Y in Cell.

In B42 you can do

  unemployed = {
    { posX = 3905, posY = 12254, posZ = 0 }

But I'm not sure if that's a N42 change or yo coudl always use both syntaxes

[trail ibex]

Do I need to add posZ?

[silent zealot]

First: Are you on B41 or B42

[trail ibex]

B42

[silent zealot]

You only need to do unemployed if you don't have profession specific locations, and you can use posX/posY/posZ

function SpawnPoints()
return {
  unemployed = {
    { posX = 3905, posY = 12254, posZ = 0 }
  }
}
end

replace the co-orinates with where you want to spawn

This mod is also an option: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3287958074

[trail ibex]

Okay, I was wondering if I could just put unemployed. Just out of curiosity, could I drop my character if I change the Z position?

[silent zealot]

No, it triggers an error about not being a valid location if you try to start in the air

You can start on the upper levels of a building though

[trail ibex]

Okay, thanks

[south bear]

When I try the following, it adds the axe on the tile at the player's feet, but there is no axe sprite visual to indicate an axe is there... I can only tell it is there because it shows up in the world tile's inventory UI box...

local square = player:getCurrentSquare()
square:AddWorldInventoryItem("Base.Axe",playerX,playerY,playerZ)

I also tried instancing the axe using

local axe = instanceItem("Base.Axe")
local square = player:getCurrentSquare()
square:AddWorldInventoryItem(axe,playerX,playerY,playerZ)

and got the same result!

Does anyone know why this may be/how to fix it? I'm on B42.9 and this is in debug mode.

(trying in non-debug now just to see if this issue will duplicate)

Same result!

[south bear]

Don't mind the axe to the left - that was one I picked up from the stack and manually dropped over there

[silent zealot]

There is probably an extra step to place the world model in the world. Look up the timed action for putting stuff on the floor, or dropping stuff; that should have the steps you need in the complete() step

[simple bluff]

@ancient grail i put a models file in 42.0.0/media , an fbx file in common/media/model_x and a png image of the weapons 3D texture in media/textures and in the models file i'm lost with this part :

    mesh = weapons/firearms/AK47,
    texture = weapons/firearms/AK,

i'm sorry if i did wrong i don't really understand this part for the moment

[foggy bronze]

Does anyone know where I would find the base game models for the long gloves and long boots? I'm trying to retexture them for use in another mod

[bright fog]

They are not models

[foggy bronze]

Is it just a retexture of the base model?

[bright fog]

Some clothings are simply layered on top of the character texture

And do not use models themselves

That's the case of tshirts for example

Or even pants

[ancient grail]

im not familiar with b42 sorry

[foggy bronze]

What would be the best way to create multiple new boots/gloves if that's the case then? I need custom rainboots looking boots and long gloves

[bright fog]

Simply make a new clothing item

[foggy bronze]

Working on a power rangers mod and the gloves/boots are seperate from the jumpsuit

Right, but normally for models that'd use a related fbx and texture and whatnot

[bright fog]

What's the problem ?

[foggy bronze]

meh, guess I need to do more digging

[bright fog]

No need

Just check how the clothing items that do not use a model work

Go check the scripts of tshirts

[tranquil kindle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3444877391

[simple bluff]

@bright fog i im creating a weapon just to do some test and to learn too , but i dont understand how to add a custom 3D model to my weapon

[bright fog]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3060255898

[simple bluff]

Oh thank you Ill Check that

[foggy bronze]

So each .xml in clothingItems needs to correspond to a matching entry in fileGuidTable?

[bronze yoke]

yeah

[foggy bronze]

Does that include weapons?

or would that be a different file

[bright fog]

No

That's completely different

Read the guide above for firearms

[foggy bronze]

no worries, adding each colors power weapon, still plugging away at all of this lol

I retextured the boiler suits though

https://tenor.com/view/power-rangers-mighty-morphin-power-rangers-gif-18003522

[foggy bronze]

Does fileGuidTable.xml allow comments? // doesnt seem to work

[bright fog]

It's XML comments

Look it up

[bronze yoke]

in XML comments look like this <!-- comment -->

[agile nacelle]

jesus christ am just spending days wasting my time on figuring out how to make the raycast work

am geneuinly pissed off

[bright fog]

What's the issue ?

[agile nacelle]

it doesnt detect the objects

the raycast goes to the designated position

[bright fog]

You're trying to use my raycast or you wrote one from scratch ?

[agile nacelle]

well i just

sampled from you

and wrote the rest

basically wrote according to what i understood

_checkForIntersectedObject keeps returning nil

all my problems could probably be solved just by visualizing the raycast ngl

[bright fog]

Didn't I leave in stuff like this ?

[agile nacelle]

i didnt notice anything for visualizing the raycast in your code

[bright fog]

Sec

Also, you shouldn't copy my code in your own mod, tho I should also probably provide better tools to customize the raycast, more than what I already did

VisualMarkers.AddLine({x=minX,y=minY,z=0}, {x=maxX,y=maxY,z=0}, 1, 1, 0, 0.2)

When you have debug mode activated

And you need to activate a thing in the context menu debug option

Tho you don't have my whole addon

[agile nacelle]

i have no intentions for copying someone's elses code, just investigating how someone else achieved their goal and do the rest on my own no need to worry

[bright fog]

So you can't use these tools

[bright fog]

👍

I would suggest just making a local copy of my mod framework, and modifying directly the code in this copy if you want to test things

That way you can use the line drawing debug tool to show the ray cast

@bronze yoke is this new to Umbrella ?

[agile nacelle]

noted

[bronze yoke]

yes, we use (exact) classes now - but if you're getting this error that just means you forgot to declare a class

[bright fog]

I mean "forgot" 😅

How am I supposed to use ---@class exactly ? I never used it so idk how it works

[bronze yoke]

local MyObject = ISBaseObject:derive("MyObject")

-- error: you are adding a new field to an instance of ISBaseObject returned by derive
function MyObject:myFunc()
    ...
end

---@class MyObject : ISBaseObject
local MyObject = ISBaseObject:derive("MyObject")

-- no error: you are allowed to modify MyObject, a subclass of ISBaseObject
function MyObject:myFunc()
    ...
end

[bright fog]

There's no way to just detect that automatically ? Bcs derive means we are creating a new class anyway ?

[bronze yoke]

there's no way

it wouldn't give much benefit anyway since you still need to declare things like fields in the class declaration

[bright fog]

I hope this doesn't confuse new modders regarding their own use of derive since not adding ---@class should have 0 impact on their code anyway

[bronze yoke]

all type annotations have 0 impact on code 🤷‍♀️

[bright fog]

I mean yea but isn't this one intrusive ? Showing a potential mistake when in reality there isn't ?

What's the reason to having this error in the first place ?

[bronze yoke]

you made a mistake when you forgot to declare a class

[bright fog]

But I never declared any class

[bronze yoke]

and that's bad

[bright fog]

How is it bad ?

[bronze yoke]

the language server won't understand your class

it thinks RayBeam2D *is* ISBaseObject

[bronze yoke]

prevents accidentally writing to fields that do not exist

[bright fog]

Why is it an issue writing to fields that do not exist ?

[bronze yoke]

it's usually a mistake

[bright fog]

Eh

[bronze yoke]

there's no point writing to a field that doesn't do anything

[bright fog]

I mean that sure okay

[bronze yoke]

if it does do anything, you should have written a field annotation for it

otherwise there is literally no way to give a warning for typos, because any typo could be a new field you're making right now

[bright fog]

Like this ?

[bronze yoke]

yeah

[bright fog]

So I should declare fields early under the class declaration ? Or when the field gets created ?

[bronze yoke]

in your class declaration you want```lua
---@class RayBeam2D : ISBaseObject
---@field ignoredObjects type description

[bright fog]

Bcs for example this field is created in new

But what about fields that are "unique", as in sometimes defined in an instance, sometimes no ?

[bronze yoke]

just add | nil to the type

i advise against having too much variance in types though

[bright fog]

Makes sense

[bronze yoke]

however | nil is generally fine

[bright fog]

Yea usually means you have to add per type case code

Which is messy overall

I had tried that once and was horrible to handle lol

[bronze yoke]

for that reason i'd prefer to use a null value of the same type when it makes sense to (empty string, -1 or 0), nil usually would take the place of an object

[bright fog]

In my case here I don't have a need for |nil bcs I have default values

---Create a new RayBeam2D instance.
---@param startPoint table
---@param vectorBeam Vector2
---@param _ignoredObjects? table|nil
---@param _deltaLength? number|nil
---@return table
function RayBeam2D:new(startPoint, vectorBeam, _ignoredObjects, _deltaLength)
    local o = {}
    setmetatable(o, self)
    self.__index = self

    -- parameters
    o.deltaLength = _deltaLength or 0.01
    o.startPoint = startPoint
    o.vectorBeam = vectorBeam
    o.ignoredObjects = _ignoredObjects or {}

    -- initialize vectors and values used in casting the ray
    o:initialize()

    return o
end

[bronze yoke]

but you can't always do that because sometimes you want all possible numbers/all strings to be valid values, then | nil makes sense

[bright fog]

Doesn't allow you to do a not check tho

Also idk what the typing for that would look like

[bronze yoke]

just string or number

[bright fog]

I think I need to make a wiki page explaining the typings

[bright fog]

But how do you tell others what the default value should be

[bronze yoke]

for strings it's a safe assumption that it will always be the empty string, for numbers it's usually -1 but you can use a constant if you want it to be clearer

[bright fog]

Like ---@param _deltaLength? number|nil
How would I write the typing that the null value should be 0 ?

[bronze yoke]

i just wouldn't try to represent it with annotations, but you could technically do number | 0

[bright fog]

Not defining it with annotations sounds cursed as shit bcs it would lack proper indications

[bronze yoke]

then you can put it in the comment

the benefit of a null object is generally that you don't have to check it as often as if it was actually nil though

[bright fog]

It's really a per case application tho

[bright fog]

Also that sounds like a bad solution to something that should be normalized I feel like

Tho if you can do |0 then that's good

No idea for strings tho ?

[bronze yoke]

string | "" i guess

[bright fog]

Does that work ?

[bronze yoke]

yeah?

[bright fog]

Interesting

Yea it does

[bronze yoke]

it's not really meant to be used for this though, to the language server string | "" means literally nothing because "" is already included in string

it's mostly used to annotate when there's a specific set of possible literal values (e.g. 0 | 1 | 2, "one" | "two" | "three")

[bright fog]

Like for tables ?

[bronze yoke]

---Returns a wall on a specific side on the square.
---@param square IsoGridSquare The square to search.
---@param side "north" | "west" | "northwest" | "southeast" The side wall to find.
---@return IsoObject? wall The wall, if any.
---@nodiscard
IsoObjectUtils.getWall = function(square, side)

[bright fog]

Ah yea

nodiscard, interesting

Lots of typings I'm not familiar with

Also isn't there some typings that are just fake typings ?

Like @private, there's no real way to do that in Lua is there ?

[bronze yoke]

nodiscard basically means 'if you call this function you have to store the result', useful for functions that don't have side effects

[bright fog]

Yea I'm on the typing page

[bronze yoke]

it adds a warning if you access it from somewhere you shouldn't

[bright fog]

Yea it's just a warning

[bronze yoke]

i don't personally find mimicing accessibility very useful so i don't use it, but i do use the _ prefix as convention for 'things that are not api'

[bright fog]

Yea I used it in RayBeam2D

For internal functions of the class

[bronze yoke]

i don't really care if people access internals so i don't want it to give a warning, but i do want them clearly marked so they know i can change them whenever i want and they can't get mad at me for it

[bright fog]

Yea if they try to access it it's probably that they know what they are doing I guess

Have something in mind

[bronze yoke]

remember that literally everything type annotations do is 'just a warning'

[bright fog]

Of course, but some do base themselves on actual stuff in the Lua

Or at least have a logical sense to be present in a way, like defining types for functions, classes etc it's just warnings sure. But my remark regarding nodiscard was mostly if something like that was actually doable in the Lua language

Also I think I finally understood that I missnamed my mod

[bronze yoke]

type annotations just describe the way things are, even something like 'this variable can only be this type' is not really doable

[bright fog]

Yea I guess

Also see I had properly used it here

Didn't even remember I had done that

[bronze yoke]

raw table is a bit scary though

[bright fog]

For the fields on the bottom ?

[bronze yoke]

yeah, usually you would annotate what is actually in those tables