mod_development

[cobalt plaza]

pls its still not working i dont know whats wrong with the preview.png

or what the issue is

[red tiger]

@drifting stump I think I need to avoid these chats for a bit to preserve sanity.

xD

[round notch]

It's not changed lol

[cobalt plaza]

i put the preview into common

[round notch]

Delete that!

[drifting stump]

.toLowerCase() and a switch

[red tiger]

Yup. That easy.

Switches are optimized in compiler-time too.

switch tables > elseif clauses when more than 4 or 5 on the same comparison.

It's not that bad when the code only runs once.

Bigger issues arise in hotter code.

[cobalt plaza]

i swear it doesnt work haha

ok im done it works sry for being dumb lmao

thanks a lot

[brittle geyser]

Hey modders, do y'all recommend switching my current development process over to build 42 completely or wait until there's a more stable branch to bulk update my mods? Or do both 41 and 42 development in tandem?

[sacred harness]

How long do you think its going to take you to build out the mod?

If you think its going to be some time till its fully completed, I would say B42. If you are almost done, then I would say B41 as that is the stable version and the most played, for now.

As mods get updated for B42, more and more are going to migrate over to the unstable build but there will still be players playing B41 for multiplayer until B42 is updated.

Those are just my thoughts

[brittle geyser]

fair enough. I have a few mods that are completed and I'll get them updated

[sacred harness]

Not sure if there is a standard yet or not, but dont remove your B41 mod or over write it with B42. I think thats breaking servers.

[bronze yoke]

you'll have to switch to 42 eventually, so it's really about gauging the work it'll take to convert b41 code to b42 code if you wait vs the work it might take if a b42 updates breaks something you already wrote for it

[queen oasis]

it's like they made made b42 specifically to break my last mod

ISInventoryTransferAction.GetDropItemOffset is now ISTransferAction.GetDropItemOffset

hmm maybe not, that does some funky stuff
maybe if I removed the items from inventory when dropping them, it wouldn't do some funky stuff

[slate laurel]

I'd assume that's to account for new transfer actions like liquids?

[tranquil reef]

I'd say either build 41 exclusively or in tandem

[round notch]

The mod options UI IS FIRE

[queen oasis]

malwarebytes is having an absolute conniption with PZ running

[dark wedge]

that's legit. i was pleasently surprised at all the types made available to us.

[tranquil reef]

Looked into it more, seems to be no reference to animals outside of animations and stuff defined in lua

People managed to get stuff like dogs and human npcs in by modifying and adding actual java class code, so I still have hope. to some degree lol

[tired rampart]

the debug menu has tons of info

[maiden thistle]

so im having a problem with updating my personal mod to b42 and im not sure what happening but there is a hole in the mesh now and the part with the hole can be seen from the back

also sorry if this is an easy fix i have no idea how to code and its a miracle it even works

[blazing vine]

#modeling message

[maiden thistle]

thank you

[queen oasis]

anyone else getting a "Error, container already has id." error or did I break something? 🙂

[quasi kernel]

@queen oasis I found a way to get the rendering working without flashing or lagging, it was thanks to someone else randomly bringing it up and some keywords finding the message

setHighlighted() has a secondary parameter, which defaults to true and roughly equates to rendering for a single frame

Setting it to false makes it render consistently until you remove it, which resulted in smooth performance and this final result in terms of an update to generator range

[queen oasis]

very nice!

[quasi kernel]

Also, the Z level was increased and decreased to my knowledge, does anyone have the exact limits now?

It used to be 0 and 8 to my knowledge

I need to account for it in generator code

[bronze yoke]

32 - -32

[maiden thistle]

so three more things ig how do i get the menu to be normal, the actions for changing are instant and when the hood of the jacket is up and i try to put on a hat it deletes the jacket

[quasi kernel]

Appreciate it

[tranquil reef]

Where can I find all color references for fluids?

[queen oasis]

just so I have this straight. mod.info in both folders, correct?

because if I can break something, I will

[finite scroll]

oh god that's awful

[queen oasis]

I found the thread. it just needs to be in the main folder

[finite scroll]

why are like half of them in camelCase and half in all lowercase

[queen oasis]

looks like something I would do

should have thrown some snake case in there for good measure

[finite scroll]

true

[finite scroll]

my stuff's been working fine with it just being in common, but it might be best to have both?

i'm not super certain of anything atm

i think you put it into individual 41/42 if you want specific versions of your mod for 41 or 42

[queen oasis]

what's scary is I found the thread, read it, left mod.info in just the main folder and it broke it so I can't read either

[finite scroll]

rip

[spark raven]

is telling me i'm missing a mod.info file but it's there, gives me same error on the template too

[queen oasis]

chuck a copy in the 42 folder

[spark raven]

yup that was it

[livid pollen]

anyone know how long it will be till britas updates to b42?

[lilac mural]

Okay, I spent half day to make it work, and I still can't figure out what's wrong

Console gives out error: attempted index: new of non-table: null
It's on line with ISTimedActionQueue.add(RandomAirdrops.UseFlareAction:new(flare, player))

I checked 'flare' and 'player' variables and they're not null. "UseFlareAction" that declared in lua file in timedAction folder is mostly copied from vanilla game.
What's wrong, pls help

[silent zealot]

Put stuff in common if it will be the same in every future version of the mod (e.g.: textures, mod.info, etc) and put stuff in 42 that is only for build 42 and you might need to redo in the future for build 42.50 or 43 etc (e.g.: lua code)

[bronze yoke]

this error means RandomAirdrops does exist, but RandomAirdrops.UseFlareAction does not exist

[finite scroll]

i see, thank you for the clarification.

[bronze yoke]

when you see attempted index: {SOMETHING} of non-table: null, look for tableName:{SOMETHING} or tableName.{SOMETHING} on that line, the error is telling you tableName is nil

[lilac mural]

Okay, so now I know that problem is definitely in timedAction lua file... Super strange, cause I literally copied most of the code..

[dull moss]

Yes, at least 5 more min

[livid pollen]

Alright

[quasi kernel]

So uh..

Have generators actually been updated to account for the new height limit..?

Looking a little at the java side it.. doesn't seem to be the case unless a new method is being used.

[chrome jewel]

Off topic for mod development, but I wondering where to find the old animated menu of unstable within the folrs

[lilac mural]

tysm i've finally figured it out

[chrome jewel]

I have found the blink video for the new now removed menu screen. One day this can be used to restore it, but I'm happy that I preserved this before I updated

[junior jewel]

any advice for getting started with mod development?

[gilded hawk]

Beautiful people 🥰

[silent zealot]

Start with some simple mods; change the stats on an item, add a recipe using existing objects, etc. Look for existing mods that do something similar to see how they did it; that's probably not the only way, but it's a starting point.

[gilded hawk]

Do it out of passion, not profit (at least when you start)

Spend time looking at other mods, and understand why and how they do stuff, you will spend a lot of time reverse engineering both the game code and other Modder's code.

Pick an IDE you are comfortable with, and use tools to make your job easy, like PZ Umbrella, Sumneko lua extension, etc etc. Treat your modding work space, like you would treat your physical workspace keep it tidy and make it work for you.

Don't be afraid to ask for help as it's okay to be lost at the beginning.

Try to have fun, and be aware that people will always find something to criticize and bitch about, and that not everyone will appreciate the work you do for free.

loadModAfter and loadModBefore are new prop right?

[lilac mural]

If a custom item have no 3d model (like in game, not in script) - what could be the problem?
What I mean by that is when I place my item it's literally nothing on the ground...
And it doesn't give any errors

[drifting stump]

pretty sure

[open drum]

Hey guys this might be a stupid question but what are these tags and flags parameters in items and recipes??? item 1 tags[GlassBottle] mode:destroy flags[Prop1] itemcount,

is there any page where i can find more info on how to use them?

dont' know how many of those "tags" and "flags" there are already implemented in the game

[elfin stump]

The tag system has to do with using different generic items instead of a specific one, I am not sure exactly how to define a tag yet though. If you look in the items folder in scripts there is quite a few examples though. For flags I think that is to tell it that it is going to be in one of your hands, like prop1 and prop2 is right and left hand prop I think... but not sure exactly how to use these yet.

[bronze yoke]

if they're working like the old tags you don't define them, just put them on items

[elfin stump]

That is what I thought but I got an error, it stated something like "No definitions for this tag" or something similar.

I just did a work around using the item mapper though since I don't need mine to be so generic as that.

[open drum]

so if i put [Prop3]] that would throw an error..

[elfin stump]

Has anyone been able to get a recipe to show up in the crafting menu?

I think Prop3 doesn't exist, but again not sure, I think it has to do with your hands.

I have been able to get recipes into the mod and loaded into a game without a crash but I am not seeing them in crafting menu or in the right click context, even for single item recipes. There may be another layer to it that I am not aware of yet.

[bronze yoke]

i have a working recipe but i don't know many of the details of how the new recipes work yet

i can post it as a working example if you'd like

[elfin stump]

That would be awesome! 🙂

[open drum]

yea yhay would b

[bronze yoke]

module WaterGoesBad {
    craftRecipe MakeTapFilter {
        timedAction = CutClothing,
        Time = 80,
        tags = AnySurfaceCraft,
        category = Survival,
        inputs {
            item 1 tags[Scissors;SharpKnife] mode:keep flags[MayDegradeLight;Prop1;IsNotDull],
            item 1 [Base.PopBottle;Base.WaterBottle;Base.PopBottleRare] flags[IsEmpty;Prop2],
            item 1 tags[Charcoal],
            item 1 [Base.RippedSheets],
            item 1 tags[Tape],
        }
        outputs {
            item 1 WaterGoesBad.TapFilter,
        }
    }
}

[open drum]

flags[IsEmpty;Prop2]

[elfin stump]

So everything is contained in craftRecipe and you got that to show up on the craft menu? Or is there another element to connect it up?

[open drum]

so, this checks if the bottle is empty and is in 2ndary hand?

[bronze yoke]

yeah, this is all i had to do

[open drum]

is there any lists of flags that i can use?

[bronze yoke]

not sure if anyone's made anythingl ike that yet

[open drum]

i see

[bronze yoke]

if i remember right, an unintuitive hiccup for me was it didn't show up until i added tags = AnySurfaceCraft or tags = InHandCraft (would have to check if that last one is exactly correct)

[elfin stump]

Okay cool I will take a peek, mine looks a lot like yours, is that timedAction custom or is it built in already?

Okay cool I will check that out on tags

I saw that in the existing recipes but mine is missing it, that could be it. Will do a sweep. Thanks! @bronze yoke

[open drum]

another question

im trying to activate it

but when i do accept

[cosmic ermine]

Anyone know what Status_Wired means?

[open drum]

still not working

did i do something wrong ?

[elfin stump]

Yep, nailed it! Thanks again.

[elfin stump]

Anyone have any luck with recipe localization files? Can't seem to crack it.

[spare burrow]

Has anyone found any way to alter the aiming reticle width?

[bronze yoke]

well again here's mine```
Recipes_EN = {
Recipe_MakeTapFilter = "Make Filter",
}

[elfin stump]

Hmm, looks the same as mine. Location is still media\lua\shared

\translate\EN

[bronze yoke]

and the file is Recipes_EN.txt?

[elfin stump]

Yep, all looks correct, I have a lot more than one though so I am thinking maybe there is character or something out of place, I am gonna reduce it to one and try and simplify it a bit.

Thank you for the reference that helps! Wasn't sure if it was Recipe_ or if I needed the module or anything.

[tranquil reef]

They removed the loading screens, but is it possible for us to add our own and have it select a random one? Basically, did they also remove the code that allows for that or was it just the illustrations themselves

[elfin stump]

There is a loading screen build 42 mod I think on steam at this point you can maybe reference that one. I am not sure the name but I saw it pass by here in the chat at some point.

[copper abyss]

agh. this is so frustrating.

can somebody help me out with this? I've looked and tried and tried but no matter what I do I am missing mod.info somehow?

[tranquil reef]

are comments possible in .txt files for sandbox options?

[bronze yoke]

yes, java style only ( /* comment */ )

[silent zealot]

Looks like you've got both a mod.info and a mod.info.txt

[cosmic ermine]

modversion is the version of my mod right?

[bronze yoke]

yeah

it can be anything you want

[silent zealot]

which should be OK, but it means youv'e got an extra file confusing you.

[cosmic ermine]

For some reason my mods didn't load when I went into debug mode.

[ashen mist]

how do i override item info for B42? i'm making a little mod to make nails and screws weigh less

[copper abyss]

I initially just had the mod.info, but since that never worked I thought that maybe the text file would work

but nothing I do seems to work

[silent zealot]

Same as B41, if that helps.

[tranquil reef]

thanks

[silent zealot]

Unless I messed a helpful API being added, you just replace the entire definition for the object you want to change by copying it from the default game media/scripts folder (and removing any other objects in the file you don't want to edit)

Makes me miss Rimworld's XML & XPATH system where you can say "find this object and change this property only"

[ashen mist]

thats what i did, got nothing

i swear there was like, an override function or smth

[bronze yoke]

you can edit them from lua

[ashen mist]

but i cant find where i saw it, so i have no reference of how to properly use it

[bronze yoke]

local item = ScriptManager.instance:getItem("Module.Type")
if item then
    item:DoParam("Property = Value")
end

[ashen mist]

so if i were to want to alter nails

would i just put nails in the place of item?

or uh, the module type?

[bronze yoke]

that would (probably) be "Base.Nails"

[silent zealot]

Base.Nails

easy to check in debug mode

[ashen mist]

alright so lemme give this a shot

local item = ScriptManager.instance:getItem("Base.Nails")
if item then
item:DoParam("Weight = 0.01")
end

[silent zealot]

Try it and see.

[ashen mist]

oh baller i got a hammer now

so how do i implement that?

do i just make an xml file and drop it in the scripts or media folder- whichever one i used for the text

just checked, media

[silent zealot]

I remember having issues trying to adjust items programatically a year or two ago, but I can't recall details... might have been the specific property I wanted to change didn't work via the API

[ashen mist]

(followed the lead of a similar mod, so if im wrong, a correction wont hurt)

[silent zealot]

it would be a lua file

[bronze yoke]

this definitely works lol

[ashen mist]

right! lua, sorry, my bad

autopilot from rimworld iirc

[silent zealot]

hahhaha

[ashen mist]

im used to xml this, xml that

i've done like six pz mod tweaks in the last two months and i still think xml

[copper abyss]

still workin on this

if I cant figure this out by myself in 20 I'll be back and depressed

[bronze yoke]

for the build 41 compatibility part, change nothing about your mod whatsoever

[tacit pebble]

this is an another curiosity, will they work when i call the function only once after save is loaded? I haven't dealt with item which already exist in game before, however just want to know. thanks.

[silent zealot]

Having a 41 folder won't do anything.

[bronze yoke]

there's no 41 folder, just leave it how it is and add the common/ and 42/ folders

[silent zealot]

build 41 doesn't know "look in /41" so it just checks the top level

[bronze yoke]

it depends when, if you call it before items have actually spawned it'll take full effect, if you call it during gameplay it'll only affect newly spawning items

[copper abyss]

wont it load that specific version if I want players to use that version of the gun in 41 tho?

ah ok'

I guess I'll delete it

[tacit pebble]

ohh okay I understood how it works. thanks 🙂

[ashen mist]

weird, lua didnt immediately work

gonna go restart pz rq

see if that sorts it out, since it was a new file

cuz who knows what reloading lua can miss

(i dont, i have no idea what im doing lmao)

my source of knowledge is divination from the elders and rough approximation

[copper abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-8615365348820385795

what does this mean

[ashen mist]

i ask smarter people questions and i figure basic things out sometimes by guessing and observing

thats how i do mod code

[copper abyss]

Why the fuck is my gun upside down

https://tenor.com/view/fist-crying-emoji-upset-emoji-cursed-emoji-emoji-devastated-gif-20999591

[ashen mist]

so my files are set up like this, but the lua aint lua-ing

the text file was my first go around

[copper abyss]

you need to have a actual lua folder

[ashen mist]

did i bungle a folder, does lua have its own thing because i cant remember

ahh

[quasi kernel]

Anyone know a reliable way to refresh the "primary" and "secondary" hand slots in the top left? It seems to be fine in B42 but B41 has an issue where deleting an item currently in that slot results in it just kinda.. lingering? I guess?

[tacit pebble]

probabely because they were made for one-handed model while you set them as two-handed model. i had same problem long time ago.

[tacit pebble]

⬆️

[quasi kernel]

Aaaaand nevermind I was modifying the b42 file

[ashen mist]

thanks, gonna restart with that sorted

see, divination from the elders works

[copper abyss]

confused

[ashen mist]

and yo-kai disco keeps me sane enough to keep at it

[copper abyss]

I have the model oriented in the specific rotation that a rifle is in

and I have set in my scripts it is a two - handed weapon

yet it seems fine in 41- not 42..

scratching my head

[ashen mist]

i think i gotta krill myself

[tacit pebble]

don't believe me 100% because it has been long time ago.. 😛

[ashen mist]

lua still aint luaing

nails still weigh 0.05 each

[bronze yoke]

it should be in lua/shared/

[ashen mist]

oh

[copper abyss]

there is client/server and shared

[bronze yoke]

it only loads from lua/shared/ lua/client/ and lua/server/

[copper abyss]

whoop

there

^^

[ashen mist]

alright, did the shared for 42 and common

gonna try again

praying it works this time

[tacit pebble]

goodluck

[copper abyss]

do you think you might know why I am having this problem-

in 41 the rotation of the gun is correct

but I guess in 42 it isnt

[bronze yoke]

sorry, no idea about that

[copper abyss]

whomp....

[ashen mist]

why not mirror the things

like its already fucked as is, may as well try flipping it around and see if that works

[copper abyss]

if it works perfectly fine in previous versions, what makes 42 the exception though

It would be easy to fix

but I wanna know why mostly

[ashen mist]

fuck fuck fuck

the lua still aint luaing

[copper abyss]

lmao.. my script for a firemode selector I think is broken

[ashen mist]

did i bungle it?

[tacit pebble]

well.. it should be something like

function functionName()
local item = ScriptManager.instance:getItem("Module.Type")
  if item then
      item:DoParam("Property = Value")
  end
end

and you have to call functionName() in your game to fire the function.

[ashen mist]

can somebody code a lua function that lets me bash my head into a brick wall until theres nothing but paste left regardless of what my pain receptors say to interfere

[bronze yoke]

you don't have to do that

it should be fine as is, i don't know why it wouldn't work

i have files in some of my mods that look exactly like that

[ashen mist]

gonna see if its maybe the caps

like maybe i bungled something case sensitive

damnit

it looks like it should be checking out

[tranquil reef]

Did they change how translations are defined

[ashen mist]

maybe it's my filepath?

[tacit pebble]

I may be wrong because I'm not professional but if you don't wanna define function name and wanna fire only once at start, then shouldn't it be like this?
not sure tho.

(function()
    local item = ScriptManager.instance:getItem("Module.Type")
    if item then
        item:DoParam("Property = Value")
    end
end)()

[bronze yoke]

you don't need to do that, anything in the file will run when the file loads

lua runs files as if they were functions, internally they're actually indistinguishable

[bronze yoke]

i dropped your code into my mod with no edits and it worked

[ashen mist]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-monkey-worried-monkey-gif-5992280527583416561

im gonna try something nonsensical

maybe

its not working in my game

[tacit pebble]

i've never known. i'm suprised

[ashen mist]

because its not enabled on the main list

like the one accessed in the main menu

i added it on the load menu mod list

like for the specific save

[bronze yoke]

that's what i did too

[ashen mist]

fuk

[bronze yoke]

are you testing on newly spawned items? i think weight should change for existing items but not sure

[ashen mist]

pre-existing

i've been using nails sitting on my garage floor to see if the weight has changed

would any of these conflict with it, maybe?

[bronze yoke]

probably not, maybe existing item weights don't change?

[ashen mist]

gonna open a new box of nails then

i found a carton so i got 11 more to work with

[bronze yoke]

yeah just putting them in a box and opening it again should actually work since it deletes all the nails and recreates them

[ashen mist]

didnt work 😔

[bronze yoke]

[ashen mist]

gonna do smth even less sensical

open them all

repack them

then open again

that also didnt work

[ashen mist]

can i see your file structure?

im becoming convinced that's where i bungled

like maybe i put a folder in the wrong place

or named it wrong

or something small you probably would get right on instinct

[bronze yoke]

i just deleted it after i tried it since i dropped it into one of my own mods but it would've just been mods/ModName/42/media/lua/shared/nails.lua

[tranquil reef]

is it possible to add a custom value to an item? like it says embumbrance, could I add my own?

[ashen mist]

infuriated because mine matches

[tacit pebble]

wanna try check if everything is fine like this?

print("search_here")
print("item: " .. tostring(item))
print("--------")
  if item then
    print("item detected")
    print(item)
    item:DoParam("Weight = 0.01")
  else
    print("item is not detected. passed")
  end
print("---------")

I usually do this one by one when i have no solution.
you can check how code was going by search for search_here in your console.txt

[winter thunder]

This is in your local Zomboid folder? Like, LNS is the file that is placed in the local files

[ashen mist]

yeah its a local mod

[winter thunder]

Oh.

No

You are making a local mod, not one youve already uploaded through the workshop

[ashen mist]

is that wrong? because that's how i got all my B41 endeavors to show up to be tested and uploaded

[bronze yoke]

oh your mod structure is wrong

it should be Workshop/Light Nails and Screws/Contents/mods/

what is your game loading...? it shouldn't show up in the mod list at all like that

[ashen mist]

gonna krill myself

[tacit pebble]

it was really nice pointing. 👍

[bronze yoke]

hey this is in your game directory too it doesn't load from there at all

[bronze yoke]

it should be in the workshop folder in your cache directory (%userprofile%/zomboid/ by default)

[winter thunder]

C:\Users\(TheRat or whatever your user is)\Zomboid\

[ashen mist]

weird, the directory one is whats always worked for me

[winter thunder]

In the past, were you making your own mods, or modifying existing ones?

[ashen mist]

modifying for the most part

my biggest projects were private server overhauls for scrap guns and armor

[winter thunder]

That would likely be why. Since you'd be changing your local copy that already has the correct file structure, so your changes didnt actually trip up anything

[ashen mist]

moved my b42 mod stuff to the user workshop thing

gonna reload and see if that fixes it

[winter thunder]

🫡

[ashen mist]

bad news

none of my installed mods show up now

[winter thunder]

Show me your file pathway for the mod now

[ashen mist]

user>zomboid>workshop

and i mean no mods show up now

not even workshop mods

[winter thunder]

Can you go deeper? Like, one more step into that file

the LNS one

[winter thunder]

You still need your "contents" file. Check out the formatting of the ModTemplate

[winter thunder]

As per albion's message here

[ashen mist]

alright so i got that fixed

but im moving them back to the directory workshop

moving them to the user workshop has broken my mod list

as in i had like nine mods visible, now its like i never installed a single one

[winter thunder]

Right. The way that PZ handles everything is mainly through tables. If you have info in one that is breaking from the standard, it can mess up the table instancing.

Once the format is correct, everything should show up

[ashen mist]

its showing up, but it's not working

like i can enable it, it has the contents folder, its got the lua

and the nail still weighs FUCKING 0.05 EACH

maybe im cursed or smth

i can make mods but not in a way that i can enjoy the end product

some greek shit or smth

[winter thunder]

Give me a min, wanna make sure I am not going to give you any incorrect info incase they changed anything ab file structure in b42

But I still think it is a file structure issue

@ashen mist Can you open up your common folder rq and show me whats going on in there?

Nvm, i see you posted that earlier

[ashen mist]

currently my 42 and common folders are identical

im gonna nuke a scripts file rq

it has my first try at this mod

a text file of the items with my custom weights

it didnt do anything, so maybe if i just wipe it off the face of the earth and run just lua

it might work

[winter thunder]

I dont think the 42 is supposed to hold everything

Oh.

[ashen mist]

the script file thing probably should registered to me sooner

[winter thunder]

If you still have both versions in your mod file, you might be overwriting one of them with the other, making the new updates not load

[ashen mist]

it just didnt ig because it didnt do anything

[ashen mist]

i update both of them each time

[quasi kernel]

My subscriptions are fluctuating a lot on Visible Generator Range and it's making me anxious, bleh

I made sure it was working for both versions so I'm not sure if I missed something or what,,

Or if it's just people bein weird

[winter thunder]

Probably a lot of people unsubbing from all their mods

[quasi kernel]

Hopefully that's the case, I haven't gotten a bug report like at all so.

I'm just hoping it's people clearing their mods and it's not just a critical error I somehow missed

[winter thunder]

Trust me, people LOVE to point out when something is wrong. I had people leaving comments regarding a niche interaction caused by some stupidly simple issues with the code that 99% of people wouldnt notice, all within like a day of me posting lmfao

[bronze yoke]

for what it's worth it's normal for people to unsubscribe after an update because they get annoyed when they get a checksum error because of it

it doesn't mean you actually made any mistakes

[quasi kernel]

Okay, good.

It was an incredibly rare update- last one was back in May of 2023.

It's been clear over a year since this mod was fixed up so

It's just kinda alarming just how much it's fluctuating.

[winter thunder]

You’re probably getting both pieces actually. People are unsubbing as they clear their mods out for b42.
People are also then subbing because it is one of the few mods available for b42.

That would for sure make it rubber-band like crazy

[quasi kernel]

I see

Alright then, suppose I'll hang back unless I get a bug report

[bronze yoke]

also people may be unsubbing and resubbing to get the update to actually download

steam's pretty unreliable with that

and i've noticed it seems to show up strangely on the statistics

[quasi kernel]

It's been like 5 hours since upload and it has 450K+ subscriptions, I feel like someone would've reported a bug by now, but it is late.

[winter thunder]

Nah, you’re def fine imo. If there was a major bug causing people to unsubscribe, they 100% would have left comments

[quasi kernel]

Whew, alrighty then!

[sacred harness]

Anyone else getting the "Not a valid PNG file at FutureTask.report"

[ebon dagger]

The worst part of updating is when you get NO ERRORS lol.

[quasi kernel]

Can't say I recognize it unless it's throwing a proper error.

[ivory gyro]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3387076289
[NEW B42 MOD]
Who will manage to escape from this skyscraper???

[sacred harness]

19-12-24 00:59:12.726] ERROR: General f:0, t:1734587952725> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown
java.util.concurrent.ExecutionException: java.io.IOException: Not a valid PNG file at FutureTask.report(null:-1). Message: C:\Users\mdrai\Zomboid\mods\EnhancedDurability\42\mod-icon.png
Stack trace:
java.base/java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.report(Unknown Source)
java.base/java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.get(Unknown Source)
zombie.fileSystem.FileSystemImpl.updateAsyncTransactions(FileSystemImpl.java:314)
zombie.GameWindow.logic(GameWindow.java:396)
zombie.core.profiling.AbstractPerformanceProfileProbe.invokeAndMeasure(AbstractPerformanceProfileProbe.java:76)
zombie.GameWindow.frameStep(GameWindow.java:917)
zombie.GameWindow.run_ez(GameWindow.java:796)
zombie.GameWindow.mainThread(GameWindow.java:610)
java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.io.IOException: Not a valid PNG file
zombie.core.textures.PNGDecoder.<init>(PNGDecoder.java:141)
zombie.core.textures.ImageData.<init>(ImageData.java:330)
zombie.asset.FileTask_LoadImageData.call(FileTask_LoadImageData.java:48)
java.base/java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(Unknown Source)
java.base/java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Unknown Source)
java.base/java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(Unknown Source)
java.base/java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(Unknown Source)
java.base/java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(Unknown Source)
... 1 more

[sacred harness]

^proper?

[quasi kernel]

Well, that's as proper as they seem to get. Looks like a java error though, maybe your game updated awkwardly?

[covert adder]

how does player:getHealth() work because i ran a script with an event that trigger on player damage and print the player health then i killed the player issue im having is it print out there health as above 99 until they die they dont drop down at all so im a lil confused

wondering if the causes is the fact im killing them but cutting there neck is it like since it only neck damage it doesnt drop lower then 99?

[bronze yoke]

try player:getBodyDamage():getOverallBodyHealth()

[covert adder]

oo okay ill try that

thanks boss that should work way better

how does one full heal the player?

[turbid gale]

It seems like animation .xml files do not correctly load anymore. Attempting to use custom reload animations I made resulted in the character defaulting to the surrender animations. However if I copied the .xml file into the game directory it worked fine while also logging in the console the mod overwrote the file.

which bewilders me, as it implies that everything there just fails to load.

[autumn imp]

Does anyone know what the naming convention for the player voices are? 💀 I extracted the ZomboidSound.bank

So I'm not even really sure how the game knows what sound files to assign to which voiceStyle

[winter bolt]

apparently animsets are bugged and only load from the old folder structure

[covert adder]

so if i wanted to make the player injuried like low hp could i just do setHealth(.1)?

[turbid gale]

thank you muchly. Any solution that works is already till that can be fixed.

worked like a charm 👍

VFE presses ever forward

[mellow frigate]

Is this channel B42 compatible ?

[ashen mist]

i am back and ready to rip my hair out til im bald again

the patch to make nails lighter remains non-functional for me despite working on someone elses system

[sonic needle]

So if I spawn, and set of a nuclear bomb, that counts as a win

[sonic needle]

You are gonna make me bingo 😩😳

[covert adder]

how do i lower the player hp to like really low?

[winter thunder]

Did you try removing the non-lua stuff?

[ashen mist]

i did

it still refuses to work

i've restarted my entire pc

didnt work

[winter thunder]

Alright. Did you also remove the local copy we were working on before?

[ashen mist]

there's only one local file and it's the original

[winter thunder]

Ok, cool. So, the mod is showing up in the mod menu, but not working in game, right?

[ashen mist]

yeah

[tacit pebble]

If you just want to make player health lower, without any injuries, then getBodyPart():setHealth(n) / getBodyPart():AddHealth(n) / getBodyDamage():setOverallBodyHealth(n) will work.
just becareful bodypart and bodydamage is different.

[covert adder]

yea but i want to modify just there hp bar

and keep there actual injuries

what im doing is making a down system

so i wanna keep them alive but keep there injuries

[ashen mist]

i've even tried removing the duplicate of the function files

like "maybe if its just common files it'll work"

[bronze yoke]

it is weird to have both but it should still work

[ashen mist]

it didnt

i am wholly convinced you are a wizard and mods are intimidated to behave in your presence

[tacit pebble]

then just don't touch player's bodypart, only modify bodydamage.
https://zomboid-javadoc.com/41.78/zombie/characters/BodyDamage/BodyDamage.html#setOverallBodyHealth(float)

[bronze yoke]

i worked on something like that before and it's an insane pain in the ass

[covert adder]

so i should just use setOverallBodyHealth(float) ?

wtf is setHealth then?

seems useless

[bronze yoke]

it's probably from a decade ago

[covert adder]

oh thanks chatgpt

[bronze yoke]

the game hasn't used a straight up healthbar in years

[covert adder]

💀

[ashen mist]

but yeah albion if you have a chance can you show me how you had the code slotted in when it worked for you?

because i am stumped here and i'm sure it's probably some little thing i missed that i dont know even exists

[covert adder]

so is set overall body health 1-100 or 0-1

[ashen mist]

like if you added it was it just like this or did it have some kind of extra text or smth

i know some zomboid things like having categories preceding code or whatever

[placid river]

is there some way to get the position of a dropped item on the floor?
cant do getparent() or getsourceiso() or anything else i tried

[covert adder]

char:setOverallBodyHealth(.5)

what wrong with this?

[placid river]

i need to check the distance between a player and the item on the ground

[winter thunder]

The game isnt throwing any errors right?

[ashen mist]

not that i've seen

[bronze yoke]

no, that was it

the only difference from your file structure is mine was in %userprofile%/zomboid/workshop/

[ashen mist]

which sucks because

when i moved mine there

it broke all my mods

my mods went from there to gone

[covert adder]

i dont think it should matter if it in mod or workshop right?

[ashen mist]

even the workshop mods vanished

[winter thunder]

No, they have theirs currently loaded into the game's steam directory. Not in either the local mods/workshop area

[covert adder]

oh yikes

[ashen mist]

the userprofile one doesnt work

[covert adder]

that weird

[ashen mist]

i tried it, it broke everything

[winter thunder]

Right, likely due to an issue with the file structure borking the rest of the mod loading

[ashen mist]

like i said, all mods vanished from the game, local and workshop

[covert adder]

yuh that sounds like it gonna be a pain to fix lol

[winter thunder]

Can you try and move this section here into the local Mods folder?

[ashen mist]

oh

youre right

the fixed structure works in the userprofile

[winter thunder]

[covert adder]

lmfao

it always a simple fix i swear

[ashen mist]

lets not get presumptuous

we have to do a function test

it works.

[covert adder]

lol

[ashen mist]

the number works.

time to finish the mod

[covert adder]

ahah good for you

[ashen mist]

i need to add

nail box weight reduction

nail carton weight reduction

and the same for all three of the screw options

[covert adder]

ur making a mod to just reduce nail carton weight?

[winter thunder]

Thats easy. Just do exactly what you did, but change which item you are looking for lol

[ashen mist]

thats the plan

i'll credit y'all in the description for the help

[winter thunder]

No worries hahaha

[ashen mist]

reducing nail/screw weight

[covert adder]

oh nice

anyways how does one use setOverallBodyHealth?

[ashen mist]

because 100 nails weighing 5 encumbrance is fucking insane from B41's 1 per 100

[covert adder]

chatgpt not being helpful

[ebon dagger]

Lots of fun changes to figure out. But, I got my most subbed mod updated. Figuring out the changes involving item "Tags" was fun.

[ashen mist]

step one: dont use chat gpt

[covert adder]

i tried .5 and 50 and both gave errors

[covert adder]

then use what lmfao?

because google not gonna be helpful

[ashen mist]

other people smarter than you

it works for me

[covert adder]

yea but that being lazy

[ashen mist]

its called being smart

[covert adder]

i only do that if chatgpt cant figure it out

nahh not really

[ashen mist]

you can either bash your skull into a wall forever

[sonic needle]

this chat is comical.

[covert adder]

if you can get the answer somewhere else first

[ashen mist]

or you can ask somebody who knows it already for help

[covert adder]

it worth a attempt

[winter thunder]

Technically there is a way to just iterate through tables, so you'd only have to really have one function and then a list of items and their corresponding weights... But that is painful, and the code only runs once so lmfao

[ashen mist]

then you learn from them

[covert adder]

yea i agree after you attempt it first lol

im not just gonna ask every question i have to people they got better thing to do lol

😭

[tacit pebble]

I personally suggest just use chat gpt BUT in the proper way.
don't use gpt for getting a answer, use gpt for talk and study.

[covert adder]

i use it to get a baseline of what im doing

like if i have no idea how something works i use chatgpt to get a baseline of how it work then for more complex answer it fail to get i ask actual people

but tbh if you know how to use chatgpt right it can be very useful in learning thing

[winter thunder]

I like using it for checking for errors I miss or for figuring out ways of handling things that are more complex than I understand. Just have GPT explain to me how it works

[covert adder]

i wouldnt trust it with anything complex but yea lol

fair

[winter thunder]

Like iterating through tables was something I just couldnt grasp lmfao

[covert adder]

i fucking hated table learning them

but after i learned them they became my favorite thing ever

there so much fun to use

i use them a shit ton in my roblox game you can make some really beautiful bit of code with it 🙏

[winter thunder]

But fr, your actual best friend when it comes to PZ modding is the massive treasure trove of existing coding work that is already out there hahahaha. Once you understand the basics, look at the java docs for the functions and look at existing similar mods to get a concept of their implementation

[covert adder]

yea very true lol i mean table in themselves is pretty much just data science basic lmfao

and i mean coding fundamentally is just handling data so it work perfectly

[winter thunder]

Probably has some outdated things ab it now, but this was my reference doc for folks
https://rentry.co/BluesModClues

[covert adder]

idk if ima dive into the java side anytime soon

ive never coded in java lol

[little harbor]

Anything comparable to Override:true, with the new craftRecipes? Trying to override a base game recipe but the script loader is not having it.

[dry lichen]

Hi i'm always blocked by my mods to drop all items from a contenair to ground, how i can target these contenair ? (it woudld work like originally button to transfer all item to you inventory from contenair)

[winter thunder]

Tbh, every time you write anything in Lua, you are meshing with the existing Java code. So even if you dont know Java, looking through the Java docs shows you what functions are actually accessible through the Lua and what their params are

[tacit pebble]

btw you can't directly use setOverallBodyHealth to character. you have to call(?) bodydamage first like this
getPlayer():getBodyDamage():setOverallBodyHealth(0.5)

[ebon dagger]

Are you using the new recipe format? The one with input {} and output {} etc?

[covert adder]

ah okay that makes sense that what i thought was wrong but wasnt sure how to execute it

thanks boss ill try that

[winter thunder]

Pretty sure the game natively does this now, if you just make a recipe with the exact same name, the mod will take precedent

[covert adder]

true true but i just started learning like yesterday so i think ill hold off on that for now lmfao

but yea ill definitely take a look at that once i get a bit more experience

[little harbor]

It's complaining about duplicate Prop1 and Prop2 so it feels like the game is trying to load both scripts at the same time

[ebon dagger]

For anyone who hasn't seen it yet, the new format for recipies is quite different (\ProjectZomboid\media\scripts\recipes)

{
    timedAction = Making,
    Time = 50,
    OnCreate = Recipe.OnCreate.ScratchTicket,
    OnTest = Recipe.OnTest.ScratchTicket,
    /* CanWalk = true, */
    Tags = InHandCraft;RightClickOnly,
    inputs
    {
        item 1 [Base.ScratchTicket],
    }
    outputs
    {
        item 1 Base.ScratchTicket,
    }
}```

[covert adder]

testing this mod im making kinda messed up if slashed my character throat atleast 10 times now

[covert adder]

also i did this but it didnt heal them at all?

also would healing them with overall body health heal there actual limb injuries?

[bronze yoke]

setting overall body health doesn't really do anything because it's recalculated every frame

[covert adder]

so what should i use?

[bronze yoke]

the overall body health doesn't really matter itself, it's just the result of some calculations based on the health of each limb

you can add health to the limbs to keep the player's health up, it won't actually heal the wounds or anything

[covert adder]

i dont wanna do that

i just want to heal their health bar

so they dont die

but keep the limb injuries

[bronze yoke]

well that's what adding health to the limbs does

[covert adder]

do i have to do it like that?

[tacit pebble]

hmm I can't check right now because I'm outside anyway isn't it lower each body part's HP average too to fit average HP?

[covert adder]

i cant add hp directly?

[bronze yoke]

i think there's like addoverallbodyhealth or something but i didn't find it reliable

[covert adder]

mhmm

[tacit pebble]

I thought I'm already using that for my posion and I haven't felt any weird before. the mod is kinda outdated tho
btw addHealth() is also available for each body part

[covert adder]

can i use addhealth to add straight health?

cuz as i said i dont wanna heal the limbs

just the overall health

[tacit pebble]

yep minus is also worked. -10 will decrease specific body part's hp

[covert adder]

epicc

[tacit pebble]

then no. it's for bodypart if I remember right
like upper arm, torso, stomach...

[bronze yoke]

using it to damage is fine, but the specific goal of keeping the player alive without healing injuries is really unreliable

[covert adder]

i mean i know it possible

ive seen a mod do it

they just keep healing them with a while loop id assume

[bronze yoke]

the mod i was maintaining had a persistent issue of people just getting more and more injuries until it reached the point where they would die in one frame before they could actually be healed

[covert adder]

well im gonna have it timed so you can still die regardless

so that shouldnt be an issue

[covert adder]

but yea instant dying is a bit of an issue im worried about

[ebon dagger]

This mod had healing items, you could check what they did.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2790147088

[covert adder]

how do you look at mod code?

[tacit pebble]

subscribe and open its folder

[ebon dagger]

Download the mod, then go to Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\108600\THAT_MODS_ID and bang!

[covert adder]

ah okay yea ill try that out

also btw i dont think addHealth work unless i used it wrong

gave me an error

addoverallbodyhealth didnt work either both gave errors

[tacit pebble]

thats interesting. I will also try this when I get back to home to refresh my knowledge. 🤣

[maiden thistle]

i kinda like the new stressed moodle so i got the old moodles mod and made this having never made one before

[covert adder]

if you figure anything out can you let me know lol?

having a hard time getting this to work lol

[tacit pebble]

what is your goal? hp is always 100% but injuries are still there?

[covert adder]

lmfao i like that

not 100%

what i want is when they get low enough basically dead they'll be no longer able to move or move at a massive reduce speed and it would effectively keep them alive but on a timer which if they dont stop the bleeding by the time ending they die

and how it would work is another person could bandage you up then use an item to revive you

it meant for a zomboid life server where your not really meant to full die

[ebon dagger]

Here is one close to that.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3338664412&searchtext=revive

[tacit pebble]

oh yeah I was trying to search that mod

[covert adder]

thanks ill take a look at that

will i need to change off the b42 to see this mod?

like in files

not ingame

[ebon dagger]

If you want to see it PLAYED, yes. But just reading the code, no

[covert adder]

Ws

where the steam file?

oop nvm found it

[covert adder]

W that works too

[ebon dagger]

Also, fun tip I learned a few years back. You can have both versions installed and swap it real fast. If you rename your current "Project Zomboid" folder to like, "Project Zomboid B42" then tell steam to swap you back to B41, it will just make a new installation of zomboid. Then you can swap version by renaming the folders.

[covert adder]

oh wow

that dandy

to be frank tho i just think im not gonna use b41 anymore lmfaooo

atleast until i wanna play a server ig lol

my dumbass like "oh this mod doesnt look that complex" then proceed to find 500 lines of code 😭

[ivory gyro]

New Mod !
Switch to the old version of your speed controls !
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3387129936

[little harbor]

I can say with confidence now that at least in my experience this is not the case. It works just like when you created an identical recipe before where it just lumps them together as one. Really wish they woulda kept the old Override variable as this made it simple. Really hope I'm just doing something wrong tbh as this is proving to be a real headache.

[gilded hawk]

Does anyone have suggestions on how to measure performance in PZ?

I'm looking into updating my prox inv mod for B42 and I'm reworking some parts of it but I'm worried it could be slower than expected as in the past for B41 I had to do some caching to ensure it would not kill FPS

[quasi kernel]

Out of curiosity, does anyone know if there's an easy-to-access location / method to access a specific bag or container's item distributions?

I mostly ask this because I thought it'd be entertaining to try and get procedural "fresh spawning" containers working.

(I mean container as in the item, like a gun case, not a container like a world object)

[lilac mural]

I still need help...

[bright fog]

I'm not familiar with it but distribution within bags is define like any other distribution

[bright fog]

• Too small (scale model up)
• No/wrong model script
• Bad referencing to the model in the item script
• Wrong export

[quasi kernel]

Perfect! I would've responded on my PC but it appears my scroll wheel failed.

I can't actually scroll through my server list-

[sand saddle]

im currently stumped. i installed my mod locally to test it for 42. however something is wrong. once its installed locally the mods menu breaks. shows nothing (not even the subscribed b42 mods i used as reference) once opened in -debug it shows a error screen yelling something about not being able to get the ID of the mod. im at loss i cant find what i did wrong.

[pallid obsidian]

Yo guys has anyone figured how to add extra voice types/replace voice types yet?

[sand saddle]

can someone have a look over my mod.info? i have NO clue why it crashes the mod menu : (Edit removed attachment)

[fleet bridge]

yea, you can find it in the procedural distributions

for containers anyway

[sand saddle]

i cant get it to work i just uninstalled my mod and now it crashes everytime i open the mod menu. i has no clue whats going on and cease modding till later.

[robust locust]

What does the error say in the console log file?

[mint hawk]

So I wanted to finally try making a mod - of course large mods that I would really want like armoring vehicles is way beyond my scope. So I figured add VHS tapes, but it seems some VHS tape mods overwrite the vanilla VHS tape file?

[robust locust]

Does anyone know what the "flag[mayDegradeLight] means in flags[MayDegradeLight;NoBrokenItems]

[sand saddle]

it says this :

[robust locust]

hmmm, I can't really tell what it's saying the problem there is. What does your mod.info look like? You might have a value that is not recognised?

[sand saddle]

right now my mod is completely removed and it bugs out without it. i have 2 b42 mods in my list.

downloaded them for reference to update mine.

[robust locust]

and it's definitely not those 2 mods that are causing the crash?

[sand saddle]

it worked before. i seen both mods in the list. added mine, edited the mod.info and added thenew folder structure. mod menu crash. removed my mod. still crash

fun i just unsubscribed from those mods as well. i have NO mods installed. mod menu crash.

console gives same error as above.

[shrewd bolt]

Is your ~/Zomboid/mods folder empty as well?

[sand saddle]

both /mods are empty. the one in the steamapps and the one in Users/myname/Zomboid

[shrewd bolt]

Interesting, I'd suggest verifying the steam cache.

[robust locust]

very strange

[sand saddle]

im going to uninstall Zomboid. make sure there is nothing left over and make a clean reinstall. someething is wonky.

[robust locust]

yea sounds like there's something gone funky

I can't see why adding and removing a mod would still cause it to crash though

[sand saddle]

well in the end i had no mods installed and the mod menu kept crashing.

[shrewd bolt]

Yeah I've been mangling mods all day and no permanent issues.

[sand saddle]

well i deleted everything now (after backing up my workshop folder) and make a clean install.

[robust locust]

I wish they had updated the "example mod" to be more useful for times like this

Does anyone know what the "flag[mayDegradeLight] means in
flags[MayDegradeLight;NoBrokenItems] ?

[sand saddle]

found the culprit. it was my workshop item. "versionMin=41" is invalid. it hung up on THAT.... the mod menu broke because my WORKSHOP version had that line in.

[robust locust]

yea that'll do it

I don't think you even need that in there

[sand saddle]

im kinda lucky. my mod works out of the box without needing to change my lua. however i havnt tested it with all the new stuff.

ok anyone knowing how the "require=Modid" works now? i have a submod that needs the main active. however i cant get it to recognize the main mod.

[quasi kernel]

Is it impossible to just.. spawn a bag with its corresponding loot table?

[lilac mural]

• I tried 1x of the model and to 1000x model: nothing changed
• Model script: model SmokeFlare { mesh = WorldItems/Flare, texture = WorldItems/FlareTexture, scale = 100.0, }
• Model is in common/media/models_X/WorldItems with name Flare.fbx
• It looks perfectly fine in windows 3d viewer - I was exporting it using blender and someone's guide

If problem was in bad referencing to the model - shouldn't there be an error?
I guess, maybe it is something wrong with export, but I don't know how to check it to be sure about that

[robust locust]

It might be too big... I tend to export at 0.01

[lilac mural]

Uh.. If it's too big - shouldn't it be on the whole screen? But i'll try making it smaller

It. Is. Definitely. Too. Big.
Even on 0.01

[robust locust]

lol

[lilac mural]

I scaled it to 0.00003 to become normal 😭

[robust locust]

yea when it's too big you're inside it and you don't see the inside faces due to backface culling

If you're using blender, then export it at 0.01, and make sure you're not scaling it up in the model code

[lilac mural]

Yeah, now I'll export everything smaller

[robust locust]

and make sure your blender world units aren't using meters or something big

it happens a lot 😄

[lilac mural]

I guess, If I need to rotate a model - it's better to do it in blender, right?

[merry grove]

Hello, I decided to join this forum to fix up my mod or find out how to make it better for the 42 version of the game.

I made the "Wild Fruits" Mod and honestly forgot what I did. It's been 2 years <w> For example, I have ItemTweaker despite not doing anything with Vanilla Items <w>

So, One thing, did anything change in Forging? For now I just using Event on Add Forage Defs

    BlackCherry = {
        type = "MattSimpleAddons.MSABlack_Cherry",
        skill = 3,
        maxCount = 15,
        minCount = 5,
        xp = 15,
        snowChance = -10,
        categories = { "Fruits" },
        zones = {
            Forest      = 15,
            DeepForest  = 15,
            FarmLand    = 5,
            Farm        = 5,
        },
        months = { 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 },
        bonusMonths = { 6, 7, 8 },
        malusMonths = { 5, 9 },
        spawnFuncs = { doWildFoodSpawn },
        altWorldTexture = worldSprites.smallTrees,
        itemSizeModifier = 1.5,
    },

Also, some people complained that the amounts were high. I disagree, but how would one change the quantities using the custom Sandbox settings?

So they can pick how much it is

[sand saddle]

you need a sandbox-options.txt :
`VERSION = 1,

option YourModId.Optioname = {
type = double,
min = 0,
max = 2,
default = 0.5,
page = Pagename,
translation = YourModId_Optioname,
}`

and in the lua itself you can check for it with : local VARname = SandboxVars.YourModId.Optioname ;

[bright fog]

I suggest rescaling it in Blender

[sand saddle]

you also in your "Sandbox_EN.txt" (and any other languages you want to support)
Sandbox_YourModId_Optioname = "YourText", Sandbox_YourModId_Optioname_tooltip = "Your tooltiptext",

[merry grove]

Also do you know what NecroList is ?

I used that but I think I literally had no idea why

[robust locust]

yea

[bright fog]

Doesn't exactly need to be your mod ID

[bright fog]

No idea

[merry grove]

Also why did I give wild fruits higher chance to grow on farmland

[merry grove]

Also this, how does it work exactly? As in do I just set a option and then just do Sandboxcars.Yourmod.Optioname.Max ?

Also I see why my farmland was so big I was just coping the Strawberry stats

Also reason why pepole were complaing about amoutns

but you finding a ENTIRE BUSH of the stuff

[sand saddle]

you basically request the value in your lua and then use that variable. reason you should give your sandbox options a max and min value as well as a default

[merry grove]

I mean, when I was a kid, there was a raspberry bush near my house that was a few HUNDREDS of raspberries on it

[sacred harness]

Where do you put this?

[sand saddle]

i have it just in the media folder

[merry grove]

You have any examples maybe of how it should look like ?

[safe sinew]

How does the tracer particle effect system for ranged weapons work? All I can find right now are .txt files with configuration numbers

[shrewd bolt]

It goes in the media folder.

[merry grove]

Does anyone know how to make it as options? The solution there is for ranges I need more rigid options of Low/Defulat/High

[shrewd bolt]

You need to set it to type = enum and specify numValues. Then have a valueTranslation that refers to values in your Sandbox_EN.txt file with names like Sandbox_Modname_Value_option1, Sandbox_Modname_Value_option2, etc.

I know B42 supports the advanced mode as well, not entirely sure how that's translated into the enum type personally.

[merry grove]

Also was this fixed?

Or should I use the quickfix still ?

Also Can I use something like this
Local table = [1,3,10,40,100] and then have just table [Sandbox_Modname_Value_option2] ?

[bright fog]

No ? Unkess that's new in B42

But that wasn't a thing in B41 ?

[merry grove]

I am python head

[shrewd bolt]

The value of the sandbox variable will be the value of the selected enum, so you'll need to check the value and tie it to your logic.

[merry grove]

Just can I use a table and then just have the option selected as postion in a table

so then I can just -1 from enum

[shrewd bolt]

Sure, but it won't be what you put above, it'd be SandboxVars.Modname.Value if following the same example.

[merry grove]

Could just be lazy and give granural control to the player

but I think it's better if it's simple

[shrewd bolt]

I'm pretty sure B42 supports either or if they click the Advanced checkbox, just not sure how personally.

[merry grove]

Is there any documentation for PZ modding ?

[shrewd bolt]

There is, but it's not updated for B42.

[lilac mural]

Is there a way to make character pick up an item that you trying to use through custom TimedActions script?

[sand radish]

does anyone know what is wrong with the logic applied here?
I ended up leveling up a skill 2 times instead of one

if randomPerk then
local currentLevel = self.character:getPerkLevel(randomPerk)
local oldLevel = currentLevel
print("CurrentLevel", currentLevel)
while currentLevel == oldLevel do
self.character:LevelPerk(randomPerk)
self.character:getXp():setXPToLevel(randomPerk, self.character:getPerkLevel(randomPerk))
end
end

[dull moss]

<@&671452400221159444> surely this is not a scam link

steamcomumniity

[merry grove]

Hey, DOUBLE II

Also who the hell posts this in Mod Developlent

[dull moss]

Bots

[merry grove]

where there is assuming a lot of very tech literarate pepoel

[dull moss]

It posts in all channels

Usually

[merry grove]

Hm, I think I keep the mod how it is now and just test if it works in B42

I don't see much that has to be changed

outside of that

[cosmic ermine]

Does beautiful-java work for Build 42?

[merry grove]

The Sandbox settings would've been lovely to have tough

[dull moss]

I have to migrate a lotta shit from modoptions to new mod options

[merry grove]

I think I wait till someone makes a documentation for 42

so I get modoptions

As i want it as simple as possible

I wish I could just have table

Tables are king tables are love

[dull moss]

#mod_development message

[shrewd bolt]

I've ported a bunch of mods over just for my own personal use - so far the things that are majorly different are recipes and shaders. Most other things just work, with slight changes.

[merry grove]

Well more sandbox settings <w>

[merry grove]

Do the EvolvedRecipe still work?

[shrewd bolt]

Can't say I've ever used that, so no idea.

[merry grove]

I use it for cakes and salads

So pepole can use my little fruits in them

[shrewd bolt]

I'm fairly certain all recipes need to be reworked with the new system though, having said that, it's not too difficult to work with.

[merry grove]

Wait, did the mod manu got overhualed?

I had it modded for so long I forgot how it looked orginally <w>

[shrewd bolt]

Yeah, it's got most of the features from the Mod Manager mod now. I feel it just needs a way to sort the list.

[merry grove]

Also how do I add Zomboid Version to my mod ?

[shrewd bolt]

In the mod.info file, there's a few version tags you can use. For example versionMin and versionMax, as well as your own mod's version: modversion.

[tranquil reef]

Mod Id needs to be defined there? Is that the translation files wasn't working for me?

[shrewd bolt]

Yeah you need to put your mod Id in the sandbox translation file.

[sacred harness]

Anyone taking on creating an example mod for everyone to follow?

[elfin stump]

All recipes are in a completely different format, no old recipes will work as far as I can tell.

Anyone have any luck with prop1 and prop2 on timed actions? I am trying to see where the items are coming from, such as Base.DishCloth_Hand, but that doesn't seem to appear anywhere in the items list. My guess is that useable (in hand) props are defined somewhere else, but cannot seem to locate how that is done. Any ideas where to start?

[merry grove]

Also how do you make your mod display in the Mods?

Like I noticed I have to put it into folder called 42.0

[shrewd bolt]

You also need a common folder.

[elfin stump]

Check out the pinned message on that, it has the structure for ya on there.

[merry grove]

Yey it works

Also man I looked at the crafting menu, this game really went full Hydrocraft eh ?

[ebon dagger]

They removed an event one of my mods depends on. Was there a list of the changes made, like a code commit with a diff or anything like that to look at?
Found it lol.

[glossy mirage]

New Moodles in the Old Pixelated Style / No old ones.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3386984752

[merry grove]

how do I update thumbnail ??

[bronze yoke]

change your preview.png and update the mod 😅

[merry grove]

I did trhat

It works in the selection

but it didn't update the steam workshop one

here it did it

here it refuses

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2618566294

Also its up and running now

But I can't change the thumbnail to say 42+

[bronze yoke]

it looks like you replaced the one in the mod's folder, you need to replace the one next to workshop.txt

[merry grove]

Ah there alright

thx

[ashen mist]

got to making the preview for my nail mod

[merry grove]

nice

[ebon dagger]

I'm looking for the event that replaces Events.OnRefreshInventoryWindowContainers
If anyone finds something, HMU?

[lilac mural]

Is it correct to use one of this: ISInventoryTransferAction or ISGrabItemAction, to make character pick up an item near him?
I'm trying to make a player pick up an item he trying to use with custom timed action...

[ebon dagger]

I may be incorrect in thinking it was replaced, and there is another issue at hand.

[sacred harness]

Anyone else having problems with getting the Sandbox Options to display the correct tool tip, lable and page?

I'm trying to link it to the translation, but it keeps pulling from the sandbox-options.txt file

[bronze yoke]

when i was updating the event doc i didn't notice any notable removals

[ashen mist]

i might be becoming a modding addict again

i finished one

now i need to make another

[sacred harness]

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-gif-20766212

[ashen mist]

does anybody know how to make B42 recipes

because suddenly i wanna recreate some qol mod recipes i knew before

like 5 rags to make a rope, undoing a rope to make twine

[sacred harness]

Nope. Figure it out for us please 😉

[ashen mist]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-monkey-worried-monkey-gif-5992280527583416561

[round notch]

me af rn

[ebon dagger]

awesome, lol, I just assumed it wasn't firing anymore, and got into a rabbit hole. I appreciate you updating that btw

[ashen mist]

ok time to lock in and dig into the base game scripts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuSNWLAiucg

[tranquil reef]

Are custom tooltips or stats possible now for items? Like if I wanted to add a "radioactivity" meter to all rat items, is that possible

[ashen mist]

okay doesnt look too bad

[tranquil reef]

Or was that something ever accomplished on build 41?

[round notch]

Surely you could just check for item type instead of making a new tooltip? Would that work?

It'd be less conflictive as you wouldn't be changing any item files

That's what I'd do 🤷‍♂️

[ashen mist]

here's what i got so far

[tranquil reef]

I meant I'd want the UI to show it somehow. It shows durability, thirst, hunger, etc stuff in the context menu

No idea how I could easily add and show a value from 0 to 100

[round notch]

Ah gotcha.. not a clue 😆

[tranquil reef]

https://tenor.com/view/drive-nightcall-film-ryan-gosling-gif-23819304

[ashen mist]

on 20 minutes of making the rope mod now

now booting up a debug save to see if it works

[round notch]

Anyone know if player:setVariable still works in b42 for playing .xml files with anims in?

I saw a thread saying the AnimSets folder has to be in both the original and the 42 folder, tried that but not loading as it did in b41

[ashen mist]

HAHA!

IT WORKS!

FIRST TRY, OH YEAH

now i just gotta fix up the recipe names so theres spaces

behold

[sacred harness]

Nice nice nice!

[mellow frigate]

with B42, 'uninstallPart' command was removed from VehicleCommands.lua and filtered out in ServerOptions.java. but still the uninstall works. anyone knows how it works ?

[stray summit]

Is there a discord to recruit devs/modders or is everything done here?

[mellow frigate]

I tried to link you to the right discord but I was cancelled by a protection bot :D. you can look for "PZ Modding Community"

[stray summit]

I found it (:

[tiny valve]

Can I ask someone to help me?
I'm trying to load a mod, but I keep getting a message that my mod.info file is missing, although it is in the folders

[bronze yoke]

you don't have a mod folder

all of that stuff should be in mods/MyMod/

[tiny valve]

Yep, thx u

it works

[ashen mist]

mods are out

i can go back to actually playing now lmao

[karmic violet]

how can i port a b41 mod to b42?

[elfin stump]

Here is a rough template of a recipe with the new mapper feature included for reference. It is rough so I recommend writing out your own not trying to copy and paste this and fill it in. But this shows a lot of good info that otherwise you would have to hunt through existing recipes etc. If game fails to boot in debug mode when making recipes, make sure to double check your syntax to existing working examples - not this template file as it is possible that there could be incorrect syntax within the commented out sections.

[lilac mural]

pins

[dull moss]

if config is local wouldn't you be unable to access values from it from other files?

[ashen mist]

so im curious

with mods n stuff

is there a place to talk about new ones i've made or smth

so non modders know they even exist

[dull moss]

yeet it in here and #1162438206516645948

i havent really used showcase but i'd guess it works

I'd say you can also yeet it in #pz_b42_chat as long as you dont do that regularly

[elfin stump]

You can probably share your workshop page in community recruitment channel as well.

[dull moss]

that does't feel like correct channel

that's for recruiting players

[elfin stump]

exactly! and your workshop pages are a great way to bring in engagement as well, steam community is live and active for PZ.

[dark wedge]

You can pass it around where needed from wherever you created. Alternatively, you can also use this to retrieve your options at any time:

local options = PZAPI.ModOptions:getOptions("UNIQUEID")

Then to get a specific option:

local option = options:getOption("OptionID")

Then that value:

myVar = option:getValue()

[dull moss]

do i have to do a tripple call or can i just make my config global since the nills will be replaced with proper values during game init?

[sacred harness]

Here is what I did:
-- Fetch the multiplier from sandbox variables
local edMultiple = SandboxVars.Xaviors_EnhancedDurability and SandboxVars.Xaviors_EnhancedDurability.EnhancedDurability

-- Validate the multiplier; fallback to 1 if invalid
if not edMultiple or type(edMultiple) ~= "number" then
    print("[EnhancedDurability] Error: Multiplier is invalid or missing. Defaulting to 1.")
    edMultiple = 1
else
    print("[EnhancedDurability] Sandbox variable found. Multiplier set to: " .. edMultiple)
end

[dull moss]

you do know that you can set sandbx min and max value

you dont really have to validate

option EvolvingTraitsWorld.AffinitySystemLoseDivider
{
    type = double,
    min = 1,
    max = 100,
    default = 2,
    page = ETWSettings,
    translation = ETW_AffinitySystemLoseDivider,
}

as example

[sacred harness]

Yeah, that validation was for debuging purposes

[dull moss]

ah

[sacred harness]

LOG : Lua f:0, t:1734632958108> [EnhancedDurability] Sandbox variable found. Multiplier set to: 1

Just so I could confirm it was being set. Trying to figure this stuff out so I debug everything! LOL

[dark wedge]

Making your config global would be fine, but it's not best practice. And you'll need to determine the best method for you on if those settings are updated ingame (why i wanted that event). But if you just need a specific value, you could always just do:

myVar = PZAPI.ModOptions:getOptions("UNIQUEID"):getOption("OptionID"):getValue()

Just be sure not to get anything wrong or you'll get an error. ha

[bronze yoke]

i'd recommend just not using globals ever

[dull moss]

[bronze yoke]

there's not really any reason to (except a couple areas where the game requires them) and they cause a lot of issues

[drifting stump]

kinda funny everyone always makes that mistake

you can pass around locals between files

[dull moss]

I dont use globals either was just wondering

ye but that requires you files to not be circularly dependand

[bronze yoke]

imo if you have a circular dependency then your code is just structured weird to begin with

[dull moss]

also tru

[bronze yoke]

there are still ways to get around it though

[dull moss]

i dont think i have any but i dont wanna fuck with passing locals over tbh anyway

[dark wedge]

make a specific file for handling the config, only ever require that file (never make it require anything) and you're g2g

[drifting stump]

here we go found it

[mellow frigate]

This question is for anybody and Ì am clearly not hoping for an answer of the EGB: how do I override the java method (from lua only) lua self.character:sendObjectChange with character being an IsoPlayer instance and sendObjectChange a method of IsoObjet ? Bonus point for the way to cancel the override. ```java
class IsoObject
public void sendObjectChange(String var1, KahluaTable var2)

[drifting stump]

its really been over 2 years since i started my require crusade 💀

[drifting stump]

do you want to override all calls or just calls within lua

[bronze yoke]

you would not believe how many people just cannot comprehend the concept 😭

[drifting stump]

you were once one of them XD

[mellow frigate]

lua only 😉

[drifting stump]

i mean you understood it fast but didnt know what was going on at first

[stone garden]

do you forgive me?

i know it is an no

[dull moss]

No, Albion was born with wisdom of lua

true prodigy

[stone garden]

sorry for everyone that i have been doing mod ideas since 2022

[bronze yoke]

iirc all i really misunderstood was that i thought it was by value not by reference, but that's still a pretty embarrassing mistake to make because lua literally never does anything like that

[drifting stump]

https://github.com/Project-Zomboid-Community-Modding/pz-community-modding/blob/main/Contents/mods/!pz_patch/42/media/lua/client/getDisplayName_errorWarning.lua

[dull moss]

smh albion, that's embarassing

how could you

I lost all faith

[drifting stump]

if you want to override calls done within java youd have to edit the class file

but within lua some metatable magic does the trick

[queen oasis]

Raspberries - sorry

[stone garden]

does chatgpt knows how to make an b42 mod

[drifting stump]

my embarassing zomboid lua mistake was thinking hash tables were hash
spoiler theyre lists

[dull moss]

#musicmaniacpins new mod options part2

[stone garden]

i wanted to test if chatgpt can do it?

[dull moss]

it doesnt

[stone garden]

only b41?

because b41 it did work

[dull moss]

it can help if you know what you doing, if you're clueless no AI can help you. Ask again in I'd say 3-5 years

then AI prob can make a mod for you

[bronze yoke]

-- needs to be the actual class of the object, not the class that declares the method like you may expect
local mt = __classmetatables[IsoPlayer.class].__index

local old_sendObjectChange = mt.sendObjectChange
mt.sendObjectChange = function(...)
    -- do something else
    old_sendObjectChange(...)
end

[stone garden]

well i will wait for that time so i can finally get my mod dream reality because i dont want to annoy others! or bother then

[dull moss]

oooor

you can learn

[stone garden]

yeah i just cant im too dumb!

[dull moss]

unluck

[stone garden]

yeah thats the truth unlucky

i tried and failed

all the times

atleast i tried

[bronze yoke]

make sure to check argument types when doing this because you don't know which overload is being called

[stone garden]

i tried all in the past

and it failed

failed and failed

[elfin stump]

On the bright side that means you don't need to refactor from B41 to B42 🙂

[mellow frigate]

can I do this afterward to release the hook ? ````lua
mt.sendObjectChange = old_sendObjectChange

[stone garden]

wait is there really an bright side

[bronze yoke]

yeah, that will work

[stone garden]

also tcherno will ignore me forever 😭 i do regret my actions but it was meant to learn modding

[mellow frigate]

thanx everyone

[dull moss]

so sth like that would be correct assuming my options ID is set correctly

local modOptions = PZAPI.ModOptions:getOptions("ETWModOptions");
local nonBarsEntriesPerRow = modOptions:getOption("TraitColumnsSlider"):getValue() or 4;

[stone garden]

maybe i could try modding again but i think it will fail again

[dull moss]

keep trying until you make it
I started my UI page like 3 times and dropped it

until I finally made it work

[stone garden]

i been doing it since 2021 i think

but failed

[dull moss]

but if you expect people to do your mods for you this aint place to ask, sorry
unless you are willing to pay

[stone garden]

yeah because of brazil inflation

1 dollar is 6 reais

[dark wedge]

yup!
though you probably don't need the or 4 at the end, unless you let the slider go to 0. just set the initial value to 4 on the slider.

[dull moss]

so might I suggest to either try to do it and ask questions in the process (by providing your code and explanations on what you tried and what didn't work) or stop kinda pestering ppl
there are plenty of ppl here who are willng to help but they wont do your mods for you my man

[elfin stump]

Start small, make a tiny mod first, something silly and easy, go from there.

[stone garden]

i wanted to test the animal system but it sounds complex as the car mechanic

is that true?

[dull moss]

that's not "starting small" my dude

[stone garden]

like harder than an car mod

[stone garden]

maybe an item mod?

[elfin stump]

there you go

[dull moss]

thats better

[stone garden]

but i like events mod

thats the issue

i like meta events

[dull moss]

and i like britas weapon mod but i aint making huge weapons overhaul

because thats hundreds of hours

[stone garden]

i mean like not an huge mod but something that impact the ingame meta

like car crashes

and etc

[elfin stump]

do an item first, work from there, there is a lot in PZ to learn, but if you try and start too big its going to hurt.

[stone garden]

i wanted to do an script that make stuff spawn naturally

[dull moss]

look we already gave you plenty of good advice. if you wanna ignore and make metaevents instead of like a crowbar or some shit you do you, but then dont be surprised when its too complex and, quoting you, "fail again and again"

when you start lifitng weights you dont start at 150 kg

you start at 20

[elfin stump]

start looking into 'distribution'

[dull moss]

so go start at 20

[stone garden]

yeah thats what i meant

[dull moss]

i dont remember why i had to do that, it's in ui render and i believe it had something to do with when modoptions initialize stuff

so i had to provide fallback value

[stone garden]

is doing something that modifies population peak harder than item mods?

just wanted to know

or it depends

[elfin stump]

For that you do not even need a mod, you can alter the sandbox settings to achieve different population and zombie behaviors.

[grand cloak]

i need a way to check if a container has an specific fluid inside but "item:getFluidContainer():getType()" is not working. how can I do it?

[bronze yoke]

use item:getFluidContainer():contains()

[dull moss]

here she goes

[dull moss]

wait when retrieving them from options do i refer to ID of an option?

ETW_config.UIWidthSlider = options:addSlider("UIWidth", getText("UI_ETW_Options_UIWidth"), 500, 1000, 10, 700, getText("UI_ETW_Options_UIWidth_tooltip"))

do i do getOption(UIWidth) or getOption(UIWidthSlider)

[grand cloak]

well it didnt show me an error but it also didnt work

[dark wedge]

In that case, you'd do getOption("UIWidth") as that's the ID you created it with

[bronze yoke]

so for example i use item:getFluidContainer():contains(Fluid.Water) to test for water

[grand cloak]

wait let me check someting

[dull moss]

oh so id, gotcha

[grand cloak]

oh

I was using the other format

thx

[elfin stump]

Anyone have a guide that covers how to have an item held in your hand? Two methods I think would work for me, one would be making a melee weapon and the other is just having an item actually appear when equipped. I am interested in the system used to have items appear as props in timedaction, and I have noticed any weapon I call does appear. So I am thinking of making fake weapons that never spawn to call just for this - or figuring out the right way and making an item that actually can be held via prop1/prop2 tag. - Any ideas? B41 guides would be fine here if anyone has a link to one.

I am sure it has to due with the rigging to the bone 8 or whatever for the hand, but not sure how to achieve it.

[bronze yoke]

contains tests if it has any of that fluid in it, you can also use isPureFluid(Fluid.Water) to test if it only has that fluid or getPrimaryFluid() == Fluid.Water to test if it is mostly that fluid

[grand cloak]

oh right

is there like any list with those values already

[bronze yoke]

Acid
Alcohol
AnimalBlood
AnimalGrease
Beer
Bleach
Blood
CarbonatedWater
CleaningLiquid
Coffee
CowMilk
Dye
HairDye
Honey
Mead
Petrol
PoisonPotent
SecretFlavoring
SheepMilk
SodaPop
SpiffoJuice
TaintedWater
Tea
Water
Whiskey
Wine

[grand cloak]

thx

[spare burrow]

I got a note with the possible colors too extracted from the assets, but need to organize

there are plenty of possible ones, no idea if there is a way to customize/add custom ones

[bronze yoke]

you can just construct colours with Color.new()