mod_development

[drifting ore]

i know that "fast move" handles player movement more like a camera than a player so maybe somehow thats part of it

he could but i think he's trying to make it more conditional instead of based on manual adjustment

lol... dare i spend time figuring out how to use Radials for lightswitch electrician

can't be insanely hard to add some light on/off and battery add/remove options and maybe something to toggle switches.. lol essentially redoing the entire mod but for ui radial now

[dark wedge]

Ah, I think I understand. I'm not sure if the falling can be negated now that I kind of tried. Not fully sure how flight was done, but thinking it was just the animation. if so, that's just "smoke and mirrors" and not actually updating the z value, so makes sense it still reports as 0.

[dark wedge]

Radials aren't that bad. Take a look at the Firearm Radial for a good example, imo. I used that to learn how to build radials since it has dynamic options and whatnot.

[drifting ore]

ahh good call!

i have a TON of context menu option stuff also i would think should help me get through this faster. but who knows 😄

[dark wedge]

Speaking of radials, I was thinking for the next SpiffUI - Radials update, I would try to take a crack at making the context menu a little mini radial.

[drifting ore]

i'm stoked for that update honestly. i love that mod but there was something that stopped me from being able to use it

[dark wedge]

oh? do you happen to know what? I do know there's some issues with it, and it's been bothering me that I haven't had time to touch it. only so much time during the day. haha

[drifting ore]

honestly dont even remember at this point. i'll let you know if it comes to me

i love this concept 10000000%

it brings a lot of things hidden in context menus and stuff right to one place

makes the game super intuitive to play

ohh i know why

because we have a shit ton of crafting options and stuff and other things

16k items so it happens

[ancient grail]

Is it possible to toggle hide a trait using sandbox including the char selection

[drifting ore]

i wasn't sure how it would play with it all since there was no way to stop those menus from what i saw

[ancient grail]

It exist but its just hidden

So server admins can choose if the trait is accesible or not

[drifting ore]

since i dont have a vm server setup atm i havent been able to afford to test things like that ATM

[ancient grail]

I could but how will that work i mean ... Its hard to explain

[drifting ore]

i can't host my server either

D:

pretty sure there is some limit on starting a server from host with so much stuff lol

[dark wedge]

it should be just fine with a bunch of items and recipes and stuff. not sure what you mean by "stop those menus"? if you mean, show the base window instead of the radial? if so, hold the key and it brings the window and not the radial.

[drifting ore]

i haven't checked into it much. if you dont think there is anything that would cause an issue, then it's gonna probably go on next update lol

when i finish my mod i'm putting it on 😄

adding an altered version for my server also since we have pliers and wire cutters haha gotta use em instead of wrench lolol

[drifting ore]

oh yea it's unclear, do i have to use autosmoke mod in order to use smoke feature from your mod?

i always thought it just made smoking automatic which i didn't want. but wasn't sure also. would like to use the feature as long as it's bound to the radial and not actually automatic

[dark wedge]

Also for the crafting radial, make sure to use the option to only show recipes you can actually make. otherwise, it can get a bit slow when you have a bunch of recipes and also hard to sort through as there are no categories (maybe yet, idk)
For now, Autosmoke is required as i use those functions for its recipes on various modded cigpacks. you can disable the autosmoke "autosmoking" feature if you want. That's been a pain-point since its release, so will write my own for the next update too

[drifting ore]

perfect. those were literally my exact two things that stopped me from putting it on. my girl will be happy to know haha

ever since i showed her it she's been all about it

first round test of menu and submenus for light radius increasing lol

[ancient grail]

how to add icons oin traits

any reference

[thick karma]

ui/traits/trait_TraitID iirc @ancient grail

Wookiee Tutorial Party Animal has this demonstrated in the GitHub link

[ancient grail]

🙏

I cant find the animal party

Nvm found it

Ow no its a diffrent one

I cant find it again

[thick karma]

Sorry ui/Traits/trait_TraitID.png

https://github.com/Zendachi/Wookiee-Tutorial-Party-Animal/tree/main/Contents/mods/WookieeTutorialPartyAnimal/media/ui/Traits

[ancient grail]

Ty

[thick karma]

I believe you need the trait_ part of the name strictly

I never tried removing it though

I just followed someone's tutorial at the time

I.e. the whole filename needs to be exactly right

By the trait ID I mean the spaceless tag you use to grant and revoke the trait

Whatever that is

Mine is just TraitName for a trait called Trait Name to make it easy on me.

[ancient grail]

I kinda remember this. You just need the name of the file and be on the right folder you dont need to add stuff the function that actually adds the trait..

How about making it hidden from players on creation screen?

Is that possible?

[drifting stump]

Yeah not having client/server comms or sandbox vars at that point is annoying

[thick karma]

Um, not sure. Would probably require hacking the function that populates your options on that screen. It just occurred to me that maybe one could do that. I used to think the answer was no. I haven't looked deeply at the functions that populate your trait selection lists.

Assuming you mean that you want the trait in the game but not selectable

Perhaps exclusively dynamic

[iron trellis]

Hey guys, so I'm COMPLETELY new to the PZ modding schmuck, and I'd like to know if someone's willing to help me out with a mod that I'm planning to make?
It's gonna be a simple little mod that changes the jumpscare sounds to be way more intense/scarier (basically just replacing the files with different ones). I maybe know the basic idea of how I could do it, but I just need someone to help me out because again, I'm fully new to this thing and I've never worked on a PZ mod before lol

If someone sends me a DM with the basics on what to do, I'd be really really grateful!! Thanks in advance!

[sour island]

You could look up the metal gear alert jumpscare mod, and just replace what they've done.

@ancient grail @thick karma If I recall the creation methods are one of the older Lua handled stuff that is a giant if chain.

[thick karma]

Oof

[sour island]

I've become unfortunately busy again, and trying to hammer out an update to EHE, but making a checklist of those types of giant-if-chains are a to-do for the community patch

[thick karma]

Hey how do we make use of the community patch? Is it live on the workshop?

[sour island]

Might even be a last-resort-just-ovetwrite-the-function situation too

[thick karma]

I heard about that the other day and I still don't know how people are intended to make use of it

Just grab what we need from the github?

[sour island]

The work to be done on those functions is still to be done

It's on the workshop and github

[thick karma]

I guess I missed the workshop link

[sour island]

Changes approved on the GitHub are automatically pushed to the workshop on Fridays

[thick karma]

Interesting. I need to look more into what all it does and subscribe

I was thinking some of my rewrites could be useful

[sour island]

There isn't anything on the patch yet, I've just been adding issues as todos/bounties

[thick karma]

Oh

I see.

[sour island]

The only thing on the mod are debug tools 😅

[thick karma]

Understood.

[sour island]

Just saying, if one of you plans to overwrite the function to allow for hidden traits. It would benefit to have the function broken down

Basically piecemeal it so the results/list of traits can be accessed before rendering

Inventory display and context menus are another candidate for this type of brute force overwrite unfortunately

[fast galleon]

#mod_development message
possible trait intercept

any trait with 0 cost is not selectable

[sour island]

Tbh, I haven't started it cause I'm not sure when it should be executed - before or after others mods

[thick karma]

Absolutely fair.

[drifting stump]

would fit better in the framework

[thick karma]

Will definitely do it this way if I rewrite it

Fair.

Whatever is most useful to people.

[sour island]

It would fit framework

[drifting stump]

patch is for fixing issues
framework improve modability

[sour island]

True

[thick karma]

Makes sense.

[sour island]

At some point those two might be merged 😅

[thick karma]

Understood.

Haha I mean I think that's fair @sour island

[sour island]

If the fixes and the frameworks need to continuously be tested for self compatibility

[thick karma]

Lack of modability is an issue afaic 😉

[drifting stump]

as for code standards: no globals

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/563797546938400768.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[sour island]

What about the vanilla globals 😅

UI etc

[thick karma]

Well I'm talking about rewriting vanilla globals.

I'm not going to localize things that people expect to be global obviously lol

That would be... not smart.

[drifting stump]

well we dont have a choice about vanilla globals and have to keep them

else would break stuff

but dont introduce new globals

[thick karma]

I will not add any globals to the community submissions if I do make them.

I understand the desire.

[sour island]

local __G = _G
_G = __G

I cracked it

[thick karma]

lol

[sour island]

I'm thinking frameworks should actually be loaded last if possible

Even though it'd break others mods - the alternative would be the framework doesn't work 90% of the time

[drifting stump]

need to be loaded first so mods doing overwrites dont break

[thick karma]

here's a local for your framework ;P

local function handleWaterZone(file, v)
    -- If you see the number of the beast, you know something is wrong . . .
    local x = v.x or -666
    local y = v.y or -666
    local z = v.z or -666
    if v.properties == nil then
        print('ERROR: WaterZone missing properties in '..file..' at '..x..','..y..','..z)
        return
    end
    if v.properties.WaterGround == nil then
        print('ERROR: WaterZone missing properties.WaterGround in '..file..' at '..x..','..y..','..z)
        return
    end
    if v.properties.WaterShore == nil then
        print('ERROR: WaterZone missing properties.WaterShore in '..file..' at '..x..','..y..','..z)
        return
    end
    getWorld():registerWaterZone(x, y, x + v.width, y + v.height,
        v.properties.WaterShore and 1.0 or 0.0, v.properties.WaterGround and 1.0 or 0.0)
end

That'll stop the game from accidentally throwing fatal exceptions during server load when it intended to simply print an error.

[sour island]

But wouldn't other mods doing overwrites potentially break the overwritten functions?

🤔

[drifting stump]

if they dont hook yeah would break it but if it causes any issues people will complain

[sour island]

I guess as long as the ultimate returns are the same it should be fine

In any case, I gtg to work

[thick karma]

Glhf

[ancient grail]

Should i post this on the resources?

[sour island]

What's the difference between water shore and water ground? Puddles?

[thick karma]

No

It would need to be integrated into metazoneHandler.lua

It's not useful alone to anyone but the modder who plans to fix metazoneHandler

Or "improve the modability of" metazoneHandler

(fix 😎)

[ancient grail]

Ok

[weary dock]

yo guys and ladies, how to modify eating speed on some items? And mb hook up external animation?

[thick karma]

@quasi kernel You lurkin?

[thick karma]

Is this your first modding endeavor in Zomboid?

Animation... is not as easy as you would hope.

Your casual reference to it suggests to me you are hoping it might not be a big deal but a custom animation in general will be a bit of a headache, especially if your animation involves something in your hands.

Especially in Zomboid

Because of how the items are bound to your character in the animation software.

(They connect to and move with your pelvis, not your hands.)

Regarding eating speed, I could say look into TimedActions for eating, but if you don't know how to search for that yet, it probably won't help.

So trying to clarify where you are.

[weary dock]

if u mean search on javadoc then im already there, just didnt searched for TimedActions yet, ty to tip

[weary dock]

sad to hear, i guess i will give it a try if its possible to hook up to item. mb by lua func or in declaration(tho i didnt see that there)

[weary dock]

first deep dive yeh

[thick karma]

A TimedAction is actually a Lua table object.

well, sort of both

But the way you handle it is via the Lua table implementation in Lua

You don't find it on the JavaDoc

You find it by searching the media/lua folder of the Project Zomboid installation

You may want to index those folders in Windows so that you can search the text of those files in addition to file names using the Windows file explorer.

I recommend looking at the ISReadABook timed action in ISReadABook.lua as a very simple example of the basics.

[thick karma]

I mean, there are ways to add a custom animation to the consumption of an item, but they are not easy, and you should be aware that it will be a complex first mod and quite a grind.

Not saying you cannot do it

But it's not trivial

[weary dock]

ok imma thinking mb i can reuse some of vanilla anims as well to atleast save time and sanity

[thick karma]

Triggering an animation is easier than making one by far

Glytch3r knows a lot about that. I know he commonly uses playEmote to trigger custom animations (https://projectzomboid.com/modding/zombie/characters/IsoGameCharacter.html#playEmote(java.lang.String))

If the animation is not already an emote you can follow the structure of the other emote files in AnimSets/player/emote and try to turn it into one.

And put it in your own AnimSets/player/emote in your mod

[weary dock]

ok so now i only need list of vanilla emotes and lua event that fires before eating

[weary dock]

yup got it.ty

[thick karma]

I'm not gonna ping him because he shows up often enough on his own but he'll probably see this and respond eventually.

lol guy needs to take a break.

[weary dock]

i guess imma go try smthing out now, ty for help

[thick karma]

But you can scroll up to see the superman flying animation he made

No worries, good luck

[quasi kernel]

I live

Sorry- was asleep.

[thick karma]

Ayyyyyy

One sec gonna grab the file names

@quasi kernel Okay! In UFP_FarmingSystem_patch.lua and UFP_farmingCommands.lua you reference an object called SFarmingSystemCommands and another called SFarmingSystem

The problem is that those objects do not exist on the clientside

So when you load, the clientside throws exceptions.

You need if isClient() then return end at the top of those files.

(Even though they are in server, clients still load them.)

[quasi kernel]

Mfw

You'd think server would stay on the server but I guess not

[thick karma]

Newp

[quasi kernel]

Yeah ill get around to patching that soon, to my knowledge it doesn't break anything so things should still be OK for now

Thank you!

[thick karma]

I recently learned that... Clients load server stuff. Server, however, does not load client stuff.

Anyhoo thought you would want to know

[neon bronze]

Hope they fix it in b42

[quasi kernel]

Yeye! I received a report about it a while ago I think and didn't know what was up since the code was fine.

Didn't see any of the errors popping up in testing I don't think

Only error that pops up is if you have More common seed types loaded because of something on their end.

[thick karma]

Right anything that clients cannot see in your server code needs to be protected... If clients shouldn't load anything in server files, returning if isClient will fix everything

[thick karma]

I don't know if they are gamebreaking, I immediately set to work patching them instead of relaunching.

[sour island]

Clients load server code but what that code does is up to you

If you use if isClient() return end or isServer() depending on what you need -- the code won't engage

[quasi kernel]

Yeye!

[sour island]

This is also true for shared

[quasi kernel]

Shared I'd expect that much, it threw me off for server though.

[neon bronze]

What does client actually load first? The client folder or the server folder?

[sour island]

I don't know if this was even intentional or just an oversight -- could be for checksum purposes

Could also be an easy way to handle single player that doesn't involve refactoring much of the game/Lua files

Also, just occurred to me - the MP is basically peer to peer

So in that sense there is no "server" code

It's all client-side or to make terminology more defined, connection-side

You can send specific information to the host to keep connections in sync

It just happens the host doesn't run "client" code

This is how I understand it to be- and I prefer this terminology cause it gets really convoluted otherwise 😅

[thick karma]

Don't forget then! Haha

[sour island]

Yep, sorry, on phone

[quasi kernel]

Wait so Burryaga, you're trying to make an error free modpack?

[sour island]

I've been enclosing Events.X.Add() with if not isClient - but some events don't get called host-side and I assume vice versa(?)

[thick karma]

Mod collection, technically, and I already have it working privately

But it depends on the patch I just sent you and a couple more patches that I need to publish in Wookiee Gamepad Support

[sour island]

Any mods in particular not playing nice with eachother?

[quasi kernel]

Hehe, I'll get to work soon then as to not keep you waiting.

[thick karma]

Haha no rush

Just being honest

No pressure at all

[sour island]

Apparently the combination of SwapIt + Only Cure + Fancy Handiwork doesn't work.

[thick karma]

I just wanted to make it easy on you by sending you the solution

Instead of just whining about the problem

[quasi kernel]

I had someone start complaining that Better Batteries was updating too much when I only updated twice, over two days, after months of nothing.

[thick karma]

SwapIt isn't even gamepad compatible so it didn't make the cut @sour island

[quasi kernel]

It made me die a little inside since both of those updates were fixes.

[sour island]

Is hotbar actions not supported on gamepad?

Or is everything radials

[thick karma]

SwapIt throws infinite exceptions if you try to wander its options menu using a gamepad

[red tiger]

Good morning.

[thick karma]

Its options tab is done wrong

[sour island]

Like in menu options?

[quasi kernel]

Morning jab!!

[thick karma]

Correct

[sour island]

I really need to sit down and redo easyConfig - I basically butchered it out of an old mod and gave it a really bad facelift 😅

Way back before I knew much of anything

[thick karma]

Haha word

[sour island]

Custom menu API would be a nice framework

[red tiger]

👋

[thick karma]

I need to give all of my mods a facelift but when stuff is working bug free and you have more solutions for features that literally don't work yet...

[red tiger]

<3

[thick karma]

Hard to choose refactoring over the next job

[red tiger]

We working towards a brighter future for UI lol

[sour island]

As nice as modOptions is, it seems there's issues with ini files and apparently anyone can change the settings online.

Not necessarily the UI - just a handling of options

[thick karma]

Wdym anyone can change the settings online?

[sour island]

Everyone can have independent options set

EasyConfig locks it to the server and only lets admins change

[thick karma]

Wait are you discussing a problem or a feature?

[sour island]

However, it would be nice to have either available

[thick karma]

Ohhh, I seeeee.

[sour island]

Problem and a feature, depending

ModOptions treats everything like single player (unless there was an update) - so players can set settings that impact MP play

[thick karma]

Yes, if you made something like Mod Options that had controller support and had both admin-restricted settings and client settings, that would be great.

[sour island]

While I took a more conservative approach

[thick karma]

I have already considered taking over MCM and redoing it with gamepad support

[sour island]

I would, but I can only squeeze out like an hour or two a couple days

And something like that needs a solid sit down to not lose track

MCM like Skyrim?

[thick karma]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2815552312&searchtext=mod+config+manager

I could redo this with A) gamepad support, and B) options only admins can set.

I have been considering it.

[sour island]

Hmm

[thick karma]

But then I will want to redo ALL my mod options

for ALL my mods

And oof

Hahahaha

As soon as I am ABLE to have a better mod options page, I will immediately want to

[sour island]

If you want to split time on EasyConfig

I don't know how game pad support works

[thick karma]

I mean I could look into it. I don't know anything about EasyConfig, probably because admin-only settings were never something I was thinkin about

I tend to use sandbox options for admin-only stuff.

[sour island]

Yeah I added those before I knew change sandbox options was a thing or before it was reliable

[thick karma]

So it never occurred to me that I might want in-game menu options for admins (or that anyone had invested time in providing that)

[thick karma]

Right right that makes sense

I figured something along those lines

[sour island]

I might scrub the admin only options in lieu of that

Maybe include the change sandbox options mod as a required 😅

[thick karma]

shrug, some people might love em, honestly.

I do not know

[sour island]

I'd have to sit down tbh

There are some options it makes sense to have available in the menu

Something like SwapIt makes sense to be adjustable but should also be consistent in MP

But I also had some people request it not be consistent as they have a PVE server

[thick karma]

Right right

[sour island]

So that'd be something to also support

Toggling which options are locked to admin / etc

And sandbox doesn't really handle that kind of case

I mean... It could if you used the config as an overwrite if it's present

[red tiger]

@tame mulch How's the scripting guide since completion? I see that people are linking it in here.

[sour island]

Otherwise default to sandbox but at that point you might as well leave the sandbox out of it 😅

[thick karma]

Yeah I'm not sure what I'll do next. Part of me wants to stay focused on doing a shops mod as my very next thing after I post this collection, but there are so many variables to consider before I pick one I want to support. I need to try some out and I need to consider how they implement money and what the consequences are and such

[sour island]

Shops mod? 🥺

[thick karma]

Gamepad support

Not the whole thing

[sour island]

Ooh

[thick karma]

Adding support to an existing one

As part of Wookiee Gamepad Support.

[sour island]

🙏

[thick karma]

I don't need to reinvent the wheel here.

There seem to be plenty of good ones

[tame mulch]

95% done for scripts guide. On weekends I will finish it (need do some stuff for vehicle scripts)

[thick karma]

I just don't know which is likeliest to rise above and become the one most people prefer.

(Or a small handful of good ones.)

[sour island]

I will be adding bartering and player ran shops soon(ish)

Afaik, it's just mine and Noirs'

[thick karma]

Bartering?

[sour island]

Items for items

[thick karma]

They have a barter UI

[red tiger]

👍

[thick karma]

The player to player trading UI is for bartering by nature

And I just did gamepad suppot for it.

[sour island]

Yes but this would be a location one could do it

[thick karma]

Ohhhhhh

You should just let people trigger the vanilla one at range.

Easy

Done

[sour island]

I have a whole shop system that handles stock and what gets listed or not

[thick karma]

No need to redo the whole UI

I see, so this would need to pull items from more than player inventory

They have stock somewhere that they can barter from?

[sour island]

The items are technically deleted

It's just storing item types

[thick karma]

I see.

[sour island]

Might have to store condition as well 🤔

The first focus will be on player ran shops though

[thick karma]

Fair.

[sour island]

Would need to create something to handle that

[thick karma]

Definitely yours is on my radar because Noir doesn't seem to interact with people here or anywhere.

[sour island]

I was told Noirs' is 1 giant shop

[thick karma]

And I don't know of a mod that really looks better than either of yours

[sour island]

And that's why I was commissioned to make a mod that handles multiple shops

[thick karma]

I see

Shops and Traders was originally a commission job?

Ouch

Haha

[sour island]

I think I heard he recently added player selling -- but I don't know on what capacity -- I assume players can add listings tied to them

[sour island]

Yes, and Faction Banking was as well

The expansion into bartering and player owned shops is also being supported (so I do it sooner 😅)

[thick karma]

I see, lol. I hope they're paying you for real because that mod would take countless hours I imagine.

Shops and Traders does not look like it was finished in 3 hours.

[sour island]

They're good people

[thick karma]

right on

[sour island]

And actually, S&T was commissioned by Duck

FB was by someone else

Both good peoples 👍

I'd say Shops took like a solid week during the summer

[thick karma]

I believe that.

[sour island]

The longest was getting the UI in order

[thick karma]

A looong week. Haha

[sour island]

Then, the networking -- the easiest part was just setting up the objects and making the functions

[thick karma]

The UI already scales to 4x no problems?

[sour island]

I would have to check what I did for the initial window - but everything else should scale to the size of the main shop window

[thick karma]

Just making sure your text positioning is based on font height and not hardcoded like vanilla

[sour island]

So changing the size of the shop window should warp the rest of the window

I use fontManager and such throughout

[thick karma]

Cool

Great

[sour island]

The vanilla UI I saw does use font heights

[thick karma]

Those things definitely increase my odds of picking it

[sour island]

I presume the older stuff doesn't?

[thick karma]

E.g., the trade UI has a history box

of trade actions

The line sizes are not set to match the font height

So the font is way too big for the rows of the lists.

Looks like shit in vanilla

[sour island]

Ah, I used the trade window as a launching pad - but I gutted it

I used fontHeight checks as seen in tooltips 😅

[thick karma]

Nice.

If I work on something I need it to look right at 4x, haha, so I am more likely to want to help if I do not have to make it look right myself.

(Not only because it's bad form not to have scaling text, but also because I have friends who need that setting and I am not gonna publish mods they wouldn't want to use.)

[sour island]

One thing Noir does have that I don't is selling cars

I do plan to add that too though

[thick karma]

I do remember noticing that

and some 3D view window

Pretty fancy crap

[sour island]

Ah yeah, I saw that

[thick karma]

Good on him

[sour island]

Not sure if I'd add that lol

[thick karma]

If he had a Discord or comments or wanted friends... I might try to do his gamepad support lmao

But alas

[sour island]

Also would think it makes more sense to sell the keys to a nearby car if it's player ran

[thick karma]

He's not looking like a likely candidate

I don't do aloof

Communication is important

[sour island]

He's apart of Valhalla and mostly does their stuff afaik

[thick karma]

That makes sense

I am sure he feels too busy for outside input. That's understandable.

But it also means he likely won't get outside support.

Trade-offs.

[thick karma]

Agreed here.

I honestly prefer the idea of needing to bring people cars

Physically.

Not just because it's easier to code ( 🤣 )

I mean it's a fun job to do in an apocalypse

Get the car across the map

Make the money

Honestly one thing on my agenda is teleporting cars though lol for Jumper.

I think I will need to create a copy of the same type of car and then do inventory transfer and then delete

Couldn't find a function that would effectively teleport an existing car

[drifting stump]

smh if you want vehicle rendering in ui look at my server points

[thick karma]

Haha there you go @sour island

C'moooon you know you wanna. 😉

What's one more TODO?

A reason to live, that's what!

[drifting stump]

the shops i did had a pretty simple ui and currency support was just overwriting 2 functions

[thick karma]

Lit

[drifting stump]

dont know how much more albion has developed it though

not sure but it mightve been the first fully scaling ui on the workshop

[thick karma]

Nice.

I don't know if albion's still working on the update she made to your mod

That mod has a "finished" looking Workshop page

And explicitly declares itself as a commission project

(maybe to discourage people from thinking it'll be indefinitely maintained?)

[drifting stump]

she couldve done a patch but at the time she didnt know about the require magic 😔

[thick karma]

Idk

Hahaha

I mean the enormous majority of local code in vanilla is either not accessible or very, very mysteriously accessible, so much that it becomes empirically justifiable in context not to expect a Zomboid file with a bunch of local stuff to be accessible.

Ever since talking to you, I always check if apparently inaccessible local stuff is returned, and 9/10 minimum, it isn't, but I have found occasionally it's hidden in copies made in global objects.

Virtually no local objects in vanilla code get returned for import afaik

Soooo

haha

Understandable mistake.

[drifting stump]

you can grab some stuff from the metatable

[thick karma]

Fair, hence "very, very mysteriously accessible" haha

[drifting stump]

local parentObject = ThatOneGlobalObject.__index

[thick karma]

That is a useful trick to know

[drifting stump]

also you can access local variables from out of scope

dont remember if it was either not implemented in kahlua or not exposed

https://www.lua.org/pil/23.1.1.html

[thick karma]

Iirc trying to call debug functions from the Debug Console did not work

That is super cool though

That you can loop through all the locals like that

Is it file-limited?

like only the locals in that file?

Or all running locals?

It says any active function... not sure if that would let you redefine a local function in a file... Would the file itself count as an "active function" with its own locals? How does that play out?

[drifting stump]

with that one you can grab locals of a function

[thick karma]

That's what I was thinking but wasn't sure

[drifting stump]

with upvalues you can grab a bit more

[thick karma]

So anything declared deeper than foo() basically (in the example link)

[drifting stump]

you would require the closure object though

[thick karma]

Word.... well, maybe all locals can very very mysteriously be grabbed, haha. But, if so, it's so mysterious that the enormous majority of us do not know how to get to them

[quasi kernel]

Think I just fixed it, that was fast.

Gotta fix 'Mo Crops icons not appearing correctly apparently tho

[thick karma]

Hey! Nice!

Glad you got it sorted!

[quasi kernel]

Thank you for guiding me!

Now to sort through a 4K+ line file

[thick karma]

No worries! Please do let me know when it goes live so I can go back to using your version instead of my local dupe. 😉

[quasi kernel]

About to push the update

@thick karma Think it's done.

[zinc pilot]

spicy question

if I wanted to modify a public value inherited from another class, how should I use GetClassFieldVal?

[gilded hawk]

Can I use sendClientCommand and sendServerCommand when I'm in single player? 🤔

[ancient grail]

No @gilded hawk

Which is why there are checks
isClient()
How r u ? Its been a long time since you last posted here

[gilded hawk]

Thank you, I guess I'll need to find a way around for sync data in SP.

I'm doing okay. I spent some time off modding to take care of myself, and because I burned myself out.

How are you doing?

[ancient grail]

All good man . Been trying out animation mods recently

[gilded hawk]

I noticed the flying skeleton gif you posted, cool stuff!

[ancient grail]

Still cant figure out what to do with the z axis problem
Maybe as soon as the player reaches that floor i should change his animation and teleport him above floor.. .. hmmm if only i can use xml to set a variable once the animation is complete
I was thinking of time action but its based on movment so thats another dead end

[gilded hawk]

What kind of issues are you having?

[thick karma]

Fire

[red tiger]

Hey @gilded hawk

You using Lua for your experiments for PZ? =P

[ancient grail]

Imean the player is on the z0
It goes up but its just animation no code involve that makes him to on the 2nd flr if i tp him then he would look like his on the third floor if you can imagine

And if i just keep like this then i would have to turn noclip other wise he can passthru wall despite lookig like his above the wall

[gilded hawk]

Yeah 😅 I'm already working 9-5 and 5-10 with TS, I need something else to switch context and chill

[red tiger]

Hahah gotcha.

Hey, I'm working on a 1:1 Lua -> TS transpiler right now. That's my current project.

It's good to see you active again.

[gilded hawk]

I'll be around for a bit, just enough to finish an old project of mine. Then I'll probably go back working on my app

[red tiger]

Nice.

I won't be done with my transpiler until I can lift the over one-thousand Lua files in PZ to TS as a demonstration.

[gilded hawk]

Damn man, good luck!

[red tiger]

/* FILE: ./assets/media/lua/shared//ISBaseObject.lua */

import { setmetatable } from './lua_utils';

export let ISBaseObject: any = {};
ISBaseObject.Type = 'ISBaseObject';

ISBaseObject.initialise = function () {};

ISBaseObject.derive = function (type: any | null | null) {
    let o: any | null = {};
    setmetatable(o, this);
    this.__index = this;
    o.Type = type;
    return o;
};

ISBaseObject.new = function () {
    let o: any | null = {};
    setmetatable(o, this);
    this.__index = this;
    return o;
};

[red tiger]

Thanks!

[fair dagger]

can somebody help me understand why i keep crashing?

or is this the wrong chat

[red tiger]

#1019767076094758924

[ancient grail]

is there a way to detect blind time of current player animation

[drifting stump]

will patch sendClientCommand and sendServerCommand to work in singleplayer

solution is actually quite simple

[gilded hawk]

What do you mean?

Does sendClientCommand work if you are the host, hosting via the host button? 🤔

[red tiger]

Why should it work in SP?

PZ doesn't run SP as a simulated local MP server.

If PZ did simulate SP as local MP, I'd be for that for consistency.

[nova socket]

Hardcore question: Is there are a way to get a specific cell that was just loaded in on server?

Context: I need to get if some specific remote square in cell once its loading in by x,y,z and spawn a vehicle there. I'm trying to create a persistence vehicle by set coordinates and set mod data on it.

[gilded hawk]

Yes, here is an example

local function OnLoadGridSquare(square)
    if isClient() then
        return -- Must return on client!
    end

    if not square then
        return
    end

    local X = square:getX()
    local Y = square:getY()
    local Z = square:getZ()

    if SquaresInExplosion[Y] == nil then
        return
    end

    local explosionEffect = SquaresInExplosion[Y][X]
    if explosionEffect == nil then
        return
    end

    if square:getModData()[ModDataIgnoreKey] then
        return
    end

    BurnSquare(square, explosionEffect)

    -- Burn multi floor buildings
    local upperSquare = getCell():getGridSquare(X, Y, Z + 1);
    if upperSquare then
        BurnSquare(upperSquare, explosionEffect)
    end
end

Events.LoadGridsquare.Add(OnLoadGridSquare);

[nova socket]

Eh, well yes, I found event for squares. But checking each square on load is kinda yikes isn't it?

@gilded hawk

Any way to get some sort of array of current cells and scroll through them?

[tame mulch]

On Client?

[nova socket]

Server, I believe client only knows its current cell which is not an issue in that case.

getCell():getGridSquare(x,y,z) but that's for current cell that client is in right now.

[drifting stump]

Host just runs a server

[gilded hawk]

Nah it's okay as long as you do it properly, many mods do it anyway, and the games uses that event too

[gilded hawk]

Where do the logs go form that server?

[drifting stump]

Allows mods using server/client communication to work in singleplayer

[drifting stump]

Think its the user zomboid folder

[nova socket]

But I guess cells do not have any sort of ID to get it from?

[gilded hawk]

I'm fairly sure the only way to do what you want to do, is by checking only the XYZ

[gilded hawk]

Good call, the Host server console logs are inside coop-console.txt same folder as console.txt

[weary dock]

yo guys what animations (and where to find em) uses EatType? i tried it with kettle but it didnt work. But when used context menu for pills it worked and i got pills anim.

[acoustic dust]

i made a smol addon that makes it so the school bag has 90 capacity and weight reduction of 100, but when ever i go over the original weight, i suddenly cant jog or Sprint and my aim move becomes really slow despite having nimble 5, why is that?

[fast galleon]

sendClientCommand: works for client and SP, throws error if server
sendServerCommand: works if server, does nothing otherwise

[finite radish]

pretty sure you have those backwards, but I'm decaffeinated

[sour island]

You can/should do "if isServer()" to feed into a command or just do what you need directly

This is where shared comes in as you can feed into a shared function and do the check/switch over there

sendClientCommand(toServer)

sendServerCommand(toClient(s))

I'm pretty sure sendServer doesn't work in SP

[acoustic dust]

they said i should ask here..
would yall know where should i look if i want to increase/decrease a the amount of points a specific trait gives?

[drifting stump]

better to keep the multiplayer logic and just patch it to work in singleplayer

[ember swallow]

@acoustic dust F:\Games\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\media\lua\shared\NPCs\MainCreationMethods.lua line 119

[bronze yoke]

yeah, at the time i thought your mod was literally unpatchable because of some false assumptions about lua; i haven't changed it to avoid inconveniencing users but if it's something that bothers you i'd be happy to redo it

as far as the questions about it being actively maintained, i have no plans to stop fixing bugs for any of my mods but that one isn't a passion project so i don't promise more than that

[drifting ore]

how can i add spongies open jackets frame work to night scales rick grimes sheriff uniform

[ancient grail]

This will work

[ancient grail]

Ow... Amm ehat if other player connects to it?
Or using no steam running 2 pz instances?
Will they be client?

[sour island]

Hosting from the main menu creates two entities for a lack of terms

Host and connection

Other connections can be made

But it creates a peer to peer dealio

"dealio" is an industry term 👍

I wonder if there's a delay between host and local connections though

[ancient grail]

There is

The delay

[ember swallow]

Just learned the hard way that a table made up of keys with nil values is empty and my thinking this through was so wrong 😂 the pain when I figured it out

[jaunty marten]

lol

[tame mulch]

Ooooh. Fishes everywhere...

[drifting ore]

If i derive the timed action class and it's working without errors. do i actually still need conditions in my timed action for it to utilize maxTime?

require "TimedActions/ISBaseTimedAction"
NipActions = ISBaseTimedAction:derive("NipActions")
function NipActions:isValid()
    return true
end
function NipActions:update()
    -- no-op
end
function NipActions:waitToStart()
    -- no-op
end
function NipActions:start()
    -- no-op
end
function NipActions:stop()
    ISBaseTimedAction.stop(self)
end
function NipActions:perform()
  ISBaseTimedAction.perform(self);
end
local switchSpeed = SandboxVars.Nipswitch.Craftspeed
function NipActions:new(character)
    local o = {}
    setmetatable(o, self)
    self.__index = self
    o.character = character
    o.maxTime = switchSpeed -- set the maximum time for the action
    if o.character:isTimedActionInstant() then o.maxTime = 1; end
    return o
end

i have tried without sandbox car using 1000 and it didn't seem to actually do anything.. *forgot i was testing stuff. this is what it looks like though.

i'm trying to add this into OnCreate Recipe with no arguments except character, which it seems is the basic usage. but when i add this into my OnCreate, it doesn't seem to trigger the timed action

actually maybe... lol lets see

[neon bronze]

I mean you derive it from the base timed action which does t do anything + maybe look into o.character and what the TimedActionInstant is? I assume its a moddata var since i never used it for anything in a char

[drifting ore]

i'm under the assumption that the maxTime is implied as a part of the original usage and happens no matter what takes place in each of the functions

what that what actually takes place in each part of the timed action is dependent on where you are calling it

[neon bronze]

I mean you dont define switchspeed anywhere so unless your action is instant which i presume is meant with the isActionInstant() call your maxTime will be nil

[drifting ore]

local switchSpeed = SandboxVars.Nipswitch.Craftspeed

= 120

but even when it's 1000 and not switchspeed its still instant

but i am calling it in the recipe OnCreate also

[neon bronze]

Maybe thats the problem? It may override your action with the Crafting Action

[drifting ore]

require "NipTimedAction.lua"

function Recipe.OnCreate.Switch(items, result, player_num)
    NipActions:new(player_num)
end

it's part of the action

within th eprocess of crafdting this is called

[neon bronze]

Do you add it to the TimedActionQueue?

[drifting ore]

i assumed calling new did that as part of the usage

[neon bronze]

Nope

[drifting ore]

    return true
end
function NipActions:update()
    -- no-op
end
function NipActions:waitToStart()

[neon bronze]

You gonna have to add it yourself from the OnCreate

[drifting ore]

ahhhhhhhh

i see

i was using this previous and didnt work

ISTimedActionQueue.add(NipActions:new(player_num))

[neon bronze]

Also you dont need the .lua suffix in the require for your onCreate

[drifting ore]

ahh your right

do i need server/ ?

or just the file if it's in the same folder

[neon bronze]

The folder and the filename i say

[drifting ore]

i just named the deerived class NipTimedActions.lua

kk

[neon bronze]

Also about the player_num, is it an int?

[drifting ore]

yea 0

player instance

[neon bronze]

Well in that case you cant call :isActionInstant on it

[drifting ore]

well i dont want instant anyways

[neon bronze]

I mean thats why it cant initialise it

[drifting ore]

ohhh i see

okay so i been looking into it and i'm trying to fully understand what you are saying about the isActionInstant things

i dont really understand where that is called

i have a condition for it, but it's not actually called

[bronze yoke]

in your new() function:
if o.character:isTimedActionInstant() then o.maxTime = 1; end
o.character is a number, so it's attempting to index a non-indexable type, which makes it mad

[neon bronze]

Thats what i meant sorry

[drifting ore]

you are good i'm just figuring it all out so it isn't clear to me sometimes

[bronze yoke]

if you're trying to copy the usual timed action structure, you should just use getSpecificPlayer(player_num) and then pass that into new() - o.character usually refers to the actual character object, not the player number

[drifting ore]

ahhh okay.

[neon bronze]

or have it as an arg for your new() constructor

[drifting ore]

require "server/NipTimedAction"

function Recipe.OnCreate.Switch(items, result, player_num)
    local player = getSpecificPlayer(player_num)
    ISTimedActionQueue.add(NipActions:new(player))
end

like that?

do i actually need to manually add it like you were saying?

or can i just call my function straight up

[bronze yoke]

yeah something like that

[drifting ore]

NipActions:new

oh okay ill give it a whirl now

honestly i almost wrote off doing this but if i can figure out timed actions i will have a lot more flexibility

thank you also

i had one thing left which was this.. but now i can't help but try to make a context menu and submenus for changing the radius range of lightswitches 😄 then i SWEAR i'm done haha

hmmm

gonna try a few more things again before i let it go yet again but damn this seems confusingh

TBH i literally just want to add the most basic timed action

dont want anything to happen whatsoever except it just add time into the recipe

i also just commented that line out for now

require "server/NipTimedAction"

function Recipe.OnCreate.Switch(items, result, player_num)
    --local player = getSpecificPlayer(player_num)
    ISTimedActionQueue.add(NipActions:new(player_num))
end
``` no error but doesn't fulfill maxTime

tbh doesn't even seem to trigger timedaction at all

but no error

the error i got earlier was using getspecificplayer

[bronze yoke]

maybe player_num isn't actually a player num

[neon bronze]

Print player_num pls

[drifting ore]

kk

[red tiger]

@tame mulch Does the script format have an official name?

I'm currently writing an AST parser for it.

[tame mulch]

I think no

[red tiger]

Make the name and I'll go with it.

Will publish on GitHub & npmjs

I'd hate to call it PZScript lol

SpiffoScript

[tame mulch]

Script format will be changed a little (or not little) in 42 🙂

[red tiger]

Easy to modify for when that time comes.

But for real, I can use a name for this format. I don't want to change it after publishing it.

=/

[tame mulch]

ZedScript?

[red tiger]

I wrote a tokenizer and am compiling it to an AST tokenizer right now, then exporting as uhhhhhhhhhhh JSON.

You want me to use 'ZedScript'? I can do that.

[tame mulch]

I don't know) I am not best with naming stuff)

[red tiger]

Ok. Not holding you responsible lol

If I'm going to publish tools for it, it's best to have a name.

Lol for I did this in 1 1/2 hours. <3

The code implementation itself is in another file ATM.

We could do some kind of lexxer that sanity-checks (even strict mode), scripts to make sure they are using the right properties for object types like animation.

[drifting ore]

it's not. i have no idea why i thought that

[red tiger]

@tame mulch I did say I was going to work with your stuff. I meant it. <3

I'll use ZedScript going forward unless told otherwise.

Thanks.

People here should use it too until an official name is mentioned.

=)

I think having a linter for ZedScript is a good idea.

[ancient grail]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2934031335

Whats zedscript

[red tiger]

A placeholder format name for /media/scripts/**/*.txt

[drifting ore]

i'm stupid it's working perfectly. i tested forcing the progress bar lol. i dont have the things in that stop you from moving and didnt have the progress bar. sorry ultra noobish mistake

[sleek hull]

(Beginner to Lua)
I can't for the life of me figure out how to update the speed & lore of already existing zombies. As far as I've got:
getSandboxOptions():set("ZombieLore.Speed", 1);
only changes the speed of zombies that are spawned in after the line is executed, but pre-existing zombies are untouched.
How would I go about updating pre-existing zombies to the new desired speed?

[ancient grail]

Events.OnZombieUpdate.Add(function(zombie) 
if not zombie then return end
getSandboxOptions():set("ZombieLore.Speed", 1)
end))

--im just on mobile so my tabbing is ... Ugh what tabbing? Nvm

@sleek hull

Assuming that the snippet you just mentioned works
Then just use events to apply to zeds that are spawned

O wait nvm

Scratch that code

Its not gonna work

[drifting ore]

i feel like it would require a reasonable amount of code to do that. lol. can you update zombie without editing their data?

[sleek hull]

getSandboxOptions():set("ZombieLore.Speed", 1); does work but it's only for things that spawn after the line executes, so if I spawn zombies via debug it'll be the correct speed, but pre-existing zombies are still the previous speed whenever they were spawned

[ancient grail]

I have no idea
But your code is simply part of a clickable thing on the sandbox
And if you click that instead it will update everything

Might wana click it instead

[glass basalt]

need help making a model not gargantuan, not sure which channel would be suited best.
I have made the model script file, and set the scale to be super small, but it doesn't change the model at all. Might the issue be in the model itself, or the textures?
Will also post script file below

here is the file at the moment

[sleek hull]

I'd imagine I'd have to iterate through the zombies when I want their speed & lore to update, I just have no clue how I'd get a list of zombie objects to modify

[drifting ore]

there are mods like random zombies that do what you want. i'd really check that out tbh. there is quite a few others ones. but that is one i know works. i just havent ever looked at how 😄

[sleek hull]

I would, but I'm trying to fix functionality of another mod (with the authors permission of course since they aren't planning on updating it till B42) I'll try taking another look at Random Zombies or Night Sprinters to try get a better picture of what I need to do

[ancient grail]

Zombie modding is hard as fuq

[glass basalt]

Changed the texture size and looked at the model. Everything looks correct but does not change the colossal TV. WHAT IS HAPPENING????

[gilded hawk]

Is there a way to respawn all instances of an item? I need to run :DoParams on some items while the game is already loaded. And as other have mentioned, changed via DoParam require the item to respawn

[glass basalt]

Turns out vanilla models are treated much differently than modded models. Why, Indie Stone, why.......

[bronze yoke]

it is because you forgot a comma on the scale line

[glass basalt]

no way. It is a list, no? I have never had this issue for other scripts

i guess I will check

[bronze yoke]

the format is weird and usually expects a comma on every line

[glass basalt]

....why does it work with the comma

I have edited hundreds of items and other things, why does it require a comma only for models

😭

[bronze yoke]

just always have commas, all kinds of things can break without them

[glass basalt]

now I have to go through all of my other mods just to add a comma at the end of each list

Thank you though. Helped me once again 🙏

[glossy helm]

alright. I'm working on a infinite fish abundance mod and i thought i'd jump in here

[drifting ore]

i made this instead of context menu 😄

now to actually make it work lol

i love this for sure

[red tiger]

The syntax for script categories is wild.

🤦‍♂️

Assumed all properties used =

aaaaaaaaaaa

recipes are crazy.

[weak sierra]

what's a good place to hook into for giving NEW CHARACTERS an item

e.g., only on spawn, not on load in, in mp

(or sp i guess, probably same deal)

[bronze yoke]

oncreateplayer, use moddata to ensure it hasn't happened already

[weak sierra]

i know in old PZ versions OnNewGame worked for this

but im not sure if that's SP-friendly-only

[bronze yoke]

that's not mp friendly

[weak sierra]

figured, tyu

[red tiger]

Hahahaha

So my rendered AST JSON for items_food.txt is 126,048 lines long.

I've mostly implemented an "Abstract Syntax Tree" for ZedScript.

[red tiger]

Oh.. An AIM emoticon.

I feel old.

Man.. I almost have the entire scripts folder for PZ parsed.

[humble oriole]

we use, just need to write some time since last death logic to prevent people from gaming that system

Events.OnNewGame.Add(function(player, square)
end)```

[red tiger]

  /**
   * Triggered after a new world has been initialized.
   *
   * @param player The player who's starting the game.
   * @param square The grid square where the player is located.
   */
  export type OnNewGameListener = (player: IsoPlayer, square: IsoGridSquare) => void;

:D

I would've posted this if I saw Udderly's post.

[humble oriole]

I've only spent about 30 seconds looking, but if anyone knows of a way to get the time since last death off the cuff, I'm looking

or maybe previous alive time?

[bronze yoke]

does onnewgame really work that way? that's crazy

maybe the reason mods still prefer to use oncreateplayer for a lot of one-time stuff is just to make it safe to add mid-save

[red tiger]

Oh shit.

[drifting ore]

i'd learn ts if the whole thing was documented like that lol

[red tiger]

I just parsed the entire scripts lib.

[red tiger]

But it is.. For the Java side ATM.

Working on the Lua transpiler to make that side just as pretty.

[drifting ore]

that's pretty detailed lol

will help clear up confusion on some things

[red tiger]

No but for real though.

I hand-copied over those event details from the wiki to the typings for the custom event listener API.

[drifting ore]

honestly i'd hype this hardcore even if i didn't use ts when finished

[red tiger]

It'll tell you what's provided and their types, which reflects the Java objects they pass and what you can access.

It's all referenced. =)

[bronze yoke]

in case it causes you a headache later on, you should know the wiki isn't perfectly accurate

most of it is good but some of the information they have on events is outdated, and some of it is just wrong

[red tiger]

Beats investigating 200 events manually.

heheh

This is why I don't shut up about PipeWrench. It'll save you so much time figuring things out.

[drifting ore]

can i ask why the naming conventions are changed so much?

is it because of the language itself used?

obv i am only noticing little things but i'm assuming you wrote it all

i dont know ts btw

att all

[red tiger]

I did not write the ~400K lines it takes to map the PZ API.

[drifting ore]

oh i suppose lol

[red tiger]

I wrote the transpiler that generates it.

[drifting ore]

oh I gotcha lol myb good sir

[red tiger]

Not offended. lol

I'm glad I didn't write that manually.

[drifting ore]

yea looking forward to it.

[red tiger]

I mean.. you can already use it. Others do. My 2nd Lua transpiler will make things so much better.

[drifting ore]

for now looking forward to assigning values to this slider thing and seeing if it's possible to add colors to it.

to be honest... i'm extremely new to this all

[red tiger]

I won't push it on you.

[drifting ore]

i start writing my first line of code around 1.5 months ago

😄

[red tiger]

I push it as info to modders that need a guide or want to avoid Lua mostly.

[drifting ore]

you are all good. I appreciate it also.

[red tiger]

I'm an oldhat in PZ modding (10ish years now), however newer kids on the block need help.

[drifting ore]

i like it for what it is, not even counting being able to use TS. my goal was to really focus on one language until it makes enough sense to where others start to naturally make more sense

even that said i'm still going to check this out for the docs lol

single pane window kinda person if i can be

[red tiger]

I haven't written messy code like this in so long...

My ZedScript AST parser works though.

Will clean it when I have time.

[drifting ore]

making UI stuff is actually kinda entertaining

[red tiger]

https://github.com/asledgehammer/ZedScriptParser/blob/main/src/app.ts

[red tiger]

It's a labyrinth.

[red tiger]

This code is so horrible.

I will need to clean it.

This is what my test code looks like after 6 hours of work lol.

This is what it generates.

[drifting ore]

lol i got a panel, a slider, and a button that does nothing and a button that closes it. i'm good on that for now 😄 just need to assign values to the slider somehow and assign a function that sets the lightradius of the light and i hope thats it LOL

once i learned how easy it is to derive classes though

so many things started making sense

[red tiger]

@tame mulch I have a working AST parser for ZedScript. It can be improved on to cater more specifically for certain structs. Up to if I have time to improve on it. https://github.com/asledgehammer/ZedScriptParser

So this is implementing an AST-approach for abstract expressions and statements to detail what's going on. This isn't the JSON I want as a result. This serves as a way to handle what's going on with the script's contents to make things like the JSON parser I want.

I can cleanup the tech-code in the repo right now and make it into a OOP library that can then be used to make the app I mentioned wanting to make.

[red tiger]

Nice.

[quasi widget]

Does the figure 0.05 in zombie loots table mean 5%?

[drifting ore]

i'll say this. load up in debug after you choose the number.. pull up the debug menu and goto cheat. towards the bottom check the lootzed box

go up to your intended container spawn and up in the inv you can right click the container and open lootzed. you should be able to find your item and the %

you can kinda go from there

round 2

so many failsafes to prevent people somehow abusing this after walking away from the switch lol...

[ancient grail]

Omg i feel bad for whoever wrote that. Well i also write terrible codes so i feel guilty but not ashamed lol

Should i redo this what? Its a water pump

[jaunty marten]

looks fine

me too need pump for my mod, sadly found nothing on google images so my mod won't have pump

[drifting ore]

Looking for a guy who would fix this mod. Mod creator gave me permission to change it.

It's payable, of course. DM me

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2832464569

[tardy wren]

Is there any way to make the game detect that my sandbox options are no longer... valid? I had to change some stuff around in a mod, change the separator in my string, and I want the game to not load the bad options at all...

[pulsar heath]

in theory you could compare the actual applied sandbox settings with the settings from another "preset" or file

[jovial harness]

Good morning guys. Question: how can I save item ModDatas to the server? transmitModData() is for objects and I didn't find anything similar to it for items. I'm thinking that maybe I should use the InventoryItem.save function, but I have no idea how to call it

[thick karma]

Was this intentionally removed from the online Java Doc? https://zomboid-javadoc.com/41.65/org/lwjglx/input/Keyboard.html

Because I know for a fact it still works and I prefer using it, but if it will soon no longer work I would like to know...

[fast galleon]

it's not tis class, maybe that's why it's not there

also zomboid-javadoc has 41.78 docs, use more current version for your modding 🙂

[thick karma]

@fast galleon I do, but before 78 was being passed around other links allowed me to see Keyboard, so I was asking explicitly why I could no longer see it because I cannot see it in the 41.78 docs that I am using. 😉

That's fair enough though. I figured they intentionally included Keyboard in the past because it's useful to Zomboid modding.

For the sake of consistency

Rather than everyone coming up with their own special butterfly way of naming a big set of constants that already has names.

[ancient grail]

If you want you can use it 🙂 once i upload

[fast galleon]

I think you misunderstand me, same link you use change 41.65 to 41.78. That's docs generated by co`.

The other link that was generated by TIS (link removed from wiki and project-zomboid, why aiteron???) was 41.76(?)

The keyboard you're looking for is not from TIS and that's why it's not on their docs.

[thick karma]

Ohhhhh so 41.78 doc is NOT the latest TIS doc?

Oh I seeeeeee

I DO misunderstand.

So someone in the community makes this other doc including various Java classes we can use in Zomboid that are not written by TIS?

The one with 41.65 / 41.78 in the URL?

[agile lily]

Howdy fellas, this might seem like an odd request or thing to ask but - anyone need help with model creation?? I’m working with some people on a mod for PZ but progress has been slow lately and I feel I’ve made a lot of what can be done at the moment. I also just want a reason to push myself so I can keep learning blender and improve, hopefully learn more about modding in the process as well. I don’t really have any preferences on what we should make, just as long as it’s fun and not something that will get abandoned, maturity is a must as well. You can shoot me a message if you’d fancy checking out some of my current models. You can respond with your clown emojis now 🤡

[nova socket]

Can you /addvehicle into cell that is currently unloaded I wonder.

[nova socket]

#modeling probably

[fast galleon]

maybe you can insert it into the database itself or spawn a vehicle and set it's positions elsewhere? (not a vehicle expert)

[red tiger]

Good morning.

[nova socket]

I mean server keeps vehicles, I'm afraid of duplicates since I barely can return the vehicle I just spawned

[vivid linden]

Can anyone help me understand how to add new spawn regions? I understand the coordinate system but I need to figure out how to actually set it up and modify it

[rancid panther]

you can probably just look at a spawn point mod and do the same thing

try looking at one that adds less spawn points rather than more

[red tiger]

@jaunty marten You see my mini-project yesterday? =3

Also it's hard to @ you without a Russian keyboard lol.

[rancid panther]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=718782525
here's an example that adds really few locations that is probably more helpful than a bigger mod

[vivid linden]

think im figuring it out, im cloning the vanilla files and then adding them to the master list. it at least shows up in the game as a region now but not tested yet. ima be in a vc streaming if anyone curious. I dont want a mod as I am just adding a set few locations to choose from. The other challenge is seeing if this translates over to clients

[rancid panther]

yeah i know but if u look at a mod's code u can see how they did it

especially since spawn point mods are pretty common, they all do it pretty much the same way

[rough venture]

Holaaaa

[jaunty marten]

nope, what's there?

[jaunty marten]

haha, yea

[red tiger]

If you know what an AST is, I've written an AST schema and parser for ZedScript.

[jaunty marten]

can't do set nick only here, it's blocked by server

[red tiger]

Could ask help from mods. =)

[jaunty marten]

never heard about AST

[red tiger]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_syntax_tree

[jaunty marten]

I think if they blocked this feature then there's some reason

[red tiger]

Here's one of the files parsed.

[jaunty marten]

ah, this

[jaunty marten]

why I can't open .json on phone lol

[red tiger]

It's too long to paste in Discord.

[jaunty marten]

will check when will come to home

[thick karma]

Cleaning up the hideous positioning of Host menu and making it so we can see absurdly named server names for Wookiee Server Options (expanded / improved successor to Legible Mods):

(on every font size, not just on default)

Gamepad players will now be able to quickly remove mods with a button:

Everyone will be able to add / remove workshop item / mods up to 20 at a time using accelerator shortcuts (L2/R2 or L Control/L Shift)

Adding a mod will also select the next mod if possible, instead of the same one, to enable easier spam adding especially for gamepad.

[agile lily]

Doing the lords work

I didn’t even know people actually play this game with controllers to be fair

Would anyone know if it’s possible to implement custom shaders that affect the main viewport of the game? Think effects such as blur, desaturation and so on. Been doing some searching on the subject matter and so far it seems you can’t interact with the shaders through lua. Anyone else have a different experience?

[thick karma]

When the game's features are fully gamepad compatible, such people might be less rare.

[uncut meteor]

maybe this mod https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=546189296&searchtext=shader

check what he has done to change shaders

[thick karma]

You can add a little blur and desaturation by hacking into the game's Investigation overlay effect.

Other things can be done with gif overlays or perhaps light sources that follow the player.

Beyond that, idk.

[agile lily]

Yeah! I’ll definitely check out the blind trait one! I know that you can create overlays that are images drawn over your screen, but that seems a bit limited. But maybe it’ll be nice if combined with the investigation blur. Just want to make being drunk a little more immersive :x

[sour island]

Combat is a lot smoother with controllers

But the inventory is rough 😅

I hope context menus can be a thing of the past eventually

I wonder if it would be difficult to make a dynamic radial menu rather than context

[glass basalt]

Thinking about updating this mod, as it somehow works and not work at the same time. Blindcoder seems to have removed his focus from PZ for now. Where can I find information on how the sandboxe options work? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=691831046

[pulsar heath]

@sour island im cleaning up the twitch integration lib and adding some functions to it, if you have any idea of things to add now is the time 🙂

and anyone else who might want something supported by the lib

also need to make the documentation for it...

[sour island]

Do you have user messages coming through as Say?

[quasi kernel]

Sandbox options themselves are defined via a sandbox_options.txt file if I remember correctly. It assigns the value types, min, max, default, etc. I forget precisely where it's located but I think it's under either media or lua.

Translations for sandbox options are with the rest of translations.

Actual indexing of sandbox options is something like SandboxVars.ModName.OptionName

[glass basalt]

Where is the logic for determining the values stored? Is that handled by the options.txt as well, or somewhere separate?

[quasi kernel]

The values stored? Like as in a drop-down?

[glass basalt]

As in "player chooses 2-6 months" therefore I will choose a random value between those two points

[pulsar heath]

was that question for me?

[sour island]

Yes, I always thought it was a waste of potential sub messages didn't go through as Say in game

Especially with Q-Shout being a thing.

[quasi kernel]

Yeah the defaults should be handled by options.txt

I haven't done a drop-down yet I don't think but I imagine that's probably done via options.txt as well.

[pulsar heath]

hmmm

thats easy to add

[glass basalt]

ah sorry, i meant the random part. How does the game choose the final value for a save-game. Not the dropdown or options

If you know, that is

[pulsar heath]

the json string has a limit of around 2 mb

[quasi kernel]

Oh, so like turning 3-6 into two variables of 3 and 6?

[glass basalt]

Yes

[pulsar heath]

i can just use a custom field for it, one i have just called data

or make a field in the json for it

[quasi kernel]

I believe theres string splitter methods where you can set the "split" character.

[sour island]

Also, @pulsar heath, the current version of EHE on GitHub has changes made to make it work server-sided. I might push it through just to fix the MP issues. Still debating if it should cook a whole lot more for other features.

[quasi kernel]

I don't remember exactly how to do it, Udderly gave me a function for it and I just ran with it to the races, but y'know.

[pulsar heath]

you managed to solve the stale zombies issue?

[sour island]

Yes, the server didn't like the way I was killing zombies

The update isn't on workshop yet

[glass basalt]

hmm alright that is fine. Thank you regardless, I will get to remaking the sandbox fine tuning

[sour island]

But I figured you should know it may screw up what you have.

[pulsar heath]

so add a say message to events such as sub as well to the lib

its done

🙂

anything else?

[sour island]

I don't stream, so I wouldn't have any ideas lol

I assume you have the usual gifts?

[pulsar heath]

yup

[sour island]

What about injuries? 🤔

Or tripping

[pulsar heath]

hmmm havent add those yet

[sour island]

If you could make it so others could easily tap into your system it can scale with sub-mods

I can guess there's an idea that no one has thought of yet

[pulsar heath]

thats why im cleaning the code...

the json string generation was static

so im making it dynamic

so it can be used with other mods apart from mine

[sour island]

So one could provide a Lua function similar to how recipes work?

[pulsar heath]

that way you can define your own syntax

yeah a bit like that

[sour island]

Neat

Added bonus is it's less overhead for you

[pulsar heath]

yup dont need to explain how it works... you can just make it work the way you want

as long as it doesnt pass the 2mb limit

but 2mb is a lot for json string

so i think that wont be an issue

[sour island]

So you could pass the function name and arguments as needed

[pulsar heath]

yup

[sour island]

Nice 👍

[pulsar heath]

thats the idea

[sour island]

Are you using unpack()?

[pulsar heath]

nop

[sour island]

How are the arguments being fed into the function?

[pulsar heath]

there are some rules in the json creation to make sure all the values are correctly fed

as in action, args, etc

[red tiger]

What JSON? =D

[sour island]

So it can only take specific types and order?

[pulsar heath]

the only static order is that the 1st field has to be the function name

from that point on everything it treated as args

[sour island]

Is there a limit to how many?

[red tiger]

=(

[pulsar heath]

one function per string

at least for now

but that doesnt mean you cant add more

its up to the mod to deserialize the string and grab the values

[sour island]

Meant the arguments, I was asking about unpack as that can allow you to turn a table into arguments as needed

[pulsar heath]

so you can add as many as you want

[sour island]

Ah, so the framework just tosses the modder the string and says "there you go, make use of it" 😅

[pulsar heath]

yup

tried to make a standart json string but that will limit a lot of things and its best to leave it simple

the app serializes whatever you send it from twitch

[sour island]

Yeah, even if you did use unpack it would be on them to account for argument types and safety checks anyway

[pulsar heath]

then the mod will grab whatever it needs

the only thing the app will do is to follow the syntax you set on the config

so you cant define your own json string fields

[sour island]

Sounds pretty solid

[pulsar heath]

then since youre the one who made the syntax

its up to your mod to make use of it

i havent done the gui yet so i cant show you a screenshot...

[sour island]

So you just have a twitch event pass the configured string over

[pulsar heath]

but by the end of the day i will have a "placeholder gui"

yup, then the user grabs the values from the event sent by twitch and defines in the app what to send to the mod

where he can define what function to call with what args

[sour island]

Hmm, I think it's pretty straight forward

[pulsar heath]

so he can do a general json string to send for all rewards

and customize some of them without having to configure them all

a standard behavior and a custom one

or several custom on top of the standard... its up to the modder to do whatever he wants the way he wants

[sour island]

I think a lot of streamers will like this

[pulsar heath]

he can even simulate something like a "hype train"

so if a user buys lets say 5 consecutive zombie or whatever events

[sour island]

A few people didn't want to deal with the touch portal

[pulsar heath]

the 6th can have a custom behavior as a bobus

touch portal is very good... but not very user friendly

[sour island]

Yeah, plus there was an issue of accidentally hitting those keys

Or the fact you may need those keys for other things

[red tiger]

I still want to know what data yall are talking about.

=(

[sour island]

Oh, he's working on a twitch integration app

[red tiger]

Oh he's discussing his app ok.

M3ss, at least your JSON isn't 100K+ lines. xD

[pulsar heath]

nop its not i only set the 2mb limit on a whim

i doubt anyone will use more that 20k and im already fattening it up

[red tiger]

AST JSON can get very massive.

[red tiger]

facts.

[pulsar heath]

well if we are talking about json for something complex... yeah it can get quite big

[red tiger]

Hahahah yeah.

[pulsar heath]

but in this case and use scenario... i doubt anyone will need more than 20k ( at most half of that is more than enough )

so 2mb is my way of saying... here... have fun

😄

[red tiger]

Are you sending Lua code to execute in the game from Twitch Integration?

[pulsar heath]

experimenting with it

atm it only send the function name and the args

[red tiger]

loadstring('print("Hello, World!")')()

[pulsar heath]

i dont want to make a mod framework... just a twitch framework

😛

and testing it with youtube as well

[red tiger]

I think this would save you the grief.

If you need to execute a function, you might as well forward code strings.

(My opinion)

Otherwise it's fun to watch you develop this app.

(Especially since I made my own in a way)

[pulsar heath]

its fun to develop it

thats why im doing it 😄

[red tiger]

And that's all you need to do it.

[pulsar heath]

i could just use keypresses like any other mod

and be done with it

use this app here for the mod to work

and that would be it

but at the same time im making my own twitch, steam, discord, youtube and rcon lib

so... fun and useful... at least for me

the only bit thats not fun... is making the gui...

[red tiger]

You might have caught the same bug I have a long time ago where you want to make tools... endlessly...

.. forever..

[pulsar heath]

yeah but thats a normal bug to have if you enjoy coding

[red tiger]

Depends on how big the tools are.

[pulsar heath]

plus... if i have this lib with this amount of useful stuff in it

[red tiger]

Most people write small tools.

[pulsar heath]

that means that in the future i will not need to worry about making them, just improving or updating

i have a dll i started making in 2003...

another one from 2005

[red tiger]

Hahah no way.

I started modding games in 03.

[pulsar heath]

and i still use both... the older one is only file manipulation and related stuff

the second one was when i started messing around with REST

i enjoy making tools but i dont enjoy making the same thing all over and over again

so... it keeps growing...

[red tiger]

I enjoy challenging projects for very complex, abstract solutions.

Building things that haven't been made yet.

[pulsar heath]

in my case it depends... if i need something... its already done but i dont agree with something in it ill just make my own the way i want it to be

there already a big project called twitchlib in c#

but... its... bloated as hell