mod_development

[ancient grail]

local pl = getPlayer() getSoundManager():PlayWorldSound('ZombieSurprisedPlayer', pl:getSquare(), 0, 5, 5, false);  addSound(pl, pl:getX(), pl:getY(), pl:getZ(), 5, 1)```

@nova socket

FallOnFront
FallOnBehind

Ithink im not sure
Im on mobile sorry i check

But you can search xmls for the fall types

[bronze yoke]

i can see left, right, stagger, trippingFromSprint

[stiff furnace]

I must be looking in the wrong place >< I will look again.

Thanks everyone

That's very helpful

[fast galleon]

Update - mods that prevent rereading recipe books...
Some of Literacy skill mods, Book Consumer mod

[drifting ore]

is there deceompiled java code avible online? or will i have to go though and decompile it myself?

[bronze yoke]

you'll have to decompile it yourself

i think making a decompilation public would be a breach of tos

[nova socket]

oh I use the same

Easter egg age check.

https://i.gyazo.com/75e6d454b288d71feaa2f499cba160fb.png

[humble oriole]

So... am I going crazy or did it used to be that if a car was near a house like zombies it would prevent you from claiming it

[ancient grail]

Just remove zed

[ancient grail]

The xmls

Ik ow cuz thats what i used for bear trap mod

[zinc pilot]

Just something I wanted to share since it has been somewhat of a problem for me:

  local group = BodyLocations.getGroup("Human")
  local list = getClassFieldVal(group, getClassField(group, 1))
  group:getOrCreateLocation(new_location)
  local new_item = list:get(list:size()-1)
  print("Created new body location" .. new_item:getId())
  list:remove(new_item)   -- We can't use the Index, it works if we pass the item though!
  local i = group:indexOf(move_to_location)
  list:add(i, new_item)
end

Someone here shared a similiar piece of code to insert a Body Location inbetween other ones but it didn't actually remove the result of getOrCreateLocation, so it kinda worked but the results weren't that clean. This fixes it.

[ancient grail]

What do we call this code

Im posting it on the links of reference

[jaunty marten]

did u do it? saw exactly same code from Shurutsue 😄

[ancient grail]

Pao's attach to body code: [#mod_development message](/guild/136501320340209664/channel/232196827577974784/)

[ancient grail]

Whos that

[jaunty marten]

he left from the server as ik so can't ping

[nova socket]

@thick karma Since you were interested in my progression: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2929712315

[jaunty marten]

or changed name, can't find

[ancient grail]

Whats his mod?

[jaunty marten]

no mod

[zinc pilot]

#mod_development message

I changed a line with a correction

that's the difference

[ancient grail]

Is it compatible with chucks?

[nova socket]

Throw me a link ill read the code, but it doesn't not change vanilla.

In fact its more like extension to vanilla

[jaunty marten]

ah, u found this, good, yea, I see difference

[zinc pilot]

from my tests, with the original code it never deleted the inserted value with getOrCreateLocation, as I said before, and made different instances in the list of the new body location

which basically made the whole part about removing it useless

[ancient grail]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2853615523

[jaunty marten]

:remove() by index doesn't work? huh?

[zinc pilot]

tbh I don't have any idea why, but no

[jaunty marten]

lul

[zinc pilot]

there's something finnicky going on with getClassFieldVal

maybe it's something about overriden methods in java that doesn't behave that nicely in lua

[nova socket]

Nope, it uses virtual currency. My currency system is completely physical. However he (or server admins) can rotate items from my API if there is configurations for it.

[jaunty marten]

btw u can check func from this, more features: https://github.com/Konijima/PZ-Community-API/blob/master/Contents/mods/CommunityAPI/media/lua/shared/BodyLocationsAPI/BodyLocationsAPIShared.lua

[zinc pilot]

and it'll work only with one of those methods

[jaunty marten]

but it was updated 1,5 years ago so..

[humble oriole]

@ancient grail I was able to fix it with a requestSync(), but now if I queue an transfer right after the timed action I'm using to remove the items it throws an error.

LOG  : General     , 1675760866509> 40,809,352> ERROR: addToItemSendBuffer parent=zombie.iso.objects.IsoThumpable@4718f822 item=zombie.inventory.types.Food@509a0605
LOG  : General     , 1675760866509> 40,809,352> -----------------------------------------
STACK TRACE
-----------------------------------------
Callframe at: addItemOnServer
function: transferItem -- file: ISInventoryTransferAction.lua line # 476 | Vanilla

is there a way to prevent the transfer until the buffer is ready

[jaunty marten]

at least I already see bug there so need to correct a bit

[zinc pilot]

I'll take a look at it, but if it uses the index I guess it's gonna have that error too

[ancient grail]

Problem with item cash is the the qty if it reaches a certain number it start to take a toll on performance

[jaunty marten]

nope, exactly array item

[ancient grail]

Is that something u fixed

Or solved rarhrr

[zinc pilot]

oh you're right

then that would be fine

[ancient grail]

Rather*

[jaunty marten]

there's bug on 15 line with o.group, just need to remove o

[tame mulch]

coop-console.txt in folder Zomboid used only in splitscreen game or when playing host local server?

[nova socket]

Solution is simple - don't inflate your money to millions and use money stacks is what its for.

If you want to find issue with that, you can simply get 50 boxes of nails, unpack them, place them all down and pretty much slowdown server that serves that current square.

[humble oriole]

it's the server console when doing host local, it's what I use for debugging myself

[nova socket]

Money stacks are drainables with 100 Base.Money in it.

[jaunty marten]

can't say about splitscreen but correct for host local server

[nova socket]

@tame mulch Also sorry to mention you on the topic, but since you are here atm I would like to pinch the idea of you guys reducing the amount of simultaneous WorldModels of items in one square to some fixed value, since 5000 items on the ground simply eats up my 3060 Ti

[humble oriole]

I would make the argument for 200 <

[tame mulch]

I will talk with team about this

[versed viper]

on our server (myself and Fallen) we had a base with a lot of crates full of a lot of materials get broken when it was overrun by zombies, and we had to turn the whitelist cleanup to minimum just to get it deleted because nobody could get near that area afterward

[jaunty marten]

death zone

[humble oriole]

yea, 2 of us tried to get close and crashed and couldn't rejoin hahaha

yea, @ancient grail I'm still not sure how to fix this one in my case.

    if self.homebiogas:getContainer():getAllCategory("Food"):size() > 0 then
        CBioGasSystem.instance:sendCommand(self.character,"plungeBiowaste", { { x = self.homebiogas:getX(), y = self.homebiogas:getY(), z = self.homebiogas:getZ() }})
    else
        self.character:Say(getText("IGUI_BioGas_ContainerEmpty"))
    end

    self.homebiogas:getContainer():requestSync()

    ISInventoryPage.renderDirty = true

    ISBaseTimedAction.perform(self);
end```

the requestSync() fixes the first issue, but introduces the new buffer issue.

[ancient grail]

what are you tring to do

remove everthing inside?

[humble oriole]

no, specific items

    local waste = 0
    local maxWaste = SandboxVars.BioGas.MaxBiowaste
    local hbg = getLuaBioGas(args[1])
    local isohbg = getIsoBioGas(hbg)
    
    if isohbg then
        if not (hbg.biowaste == maxWaste) then
            local biowastecontainer = isohbg:getContainer()
            local foodList = biowastecontainer:getAllCategory("Food")
            
            if foodList:size() > 0 then
                for v=1,foodList:size() do
                    local item = foodList:get(v-1)
                    if hbg.biowaste < maxWaste then
                        hbg.biowaste = hbg.biowaste + item:getCalories()
                        if item:getReplaceOnUse() then biowastecontainer:AddItem(item:getReplaceOnUse()) end
                        biowastecontainer:Remove(item)
                    end
                end

                if hbg.biowaste > maxWaste then
                    hbg.biowaste = maxWaste
                end

                isohbg:sendObjectChange("containers")
                hbg:saveData(true)
            end
        end
    end
end

[ancient grail]

function HBGPlungeBiowaste:perform()

    if self.homebiogas:getContainer():getAllCategory("Food"):size() > 0 then
        CBioGasSystem.instance:sendCommand(self.character,"plungeBiowaste", { { x = self.homebiogas:getX(), y = self.homebiogas:getY(), z = self.homebiogas:getZ() }})
    else
        self.character:Say(getText("IGUI_BioGas_ContainerEmpty"))
    end
    
    local item = 

    self.homebiogas:getContainer():requestSync()
    
    item:getContainer():removeItemOnServer(item);

    item:getContainer():DoRemoveItem(item);
    
    ISInventoryPage.renderDirty = true

    ISBaseTimedAction.perform(self);
end

@humble oriole

not sure if the request sync should come first or last

ihavent use that yet

[humble oriole]

the homebiogas is the isoObject

[ancient grail]

whats the item then

[humble oriole]

            
            if foodList:size() > 0 then
                for v=1,foodList:size() do
                    local item = foodList:get(v-1)
                    if hbg.biowaste < maxWaste then
                        hbg.biowaste = hbg.biowaste + item:getCalories()
                        if item:getReplaceOnUse() then biowastecontainer:AddItem(item:getReplaceOnUse()) end
                        biowastecontainer:Remove(item)
                    end
                end```

I'm doing all the item changes on the server

[ancient grail]

         local foodList = biowastecontainer:getAllCategory("Food")
            
            if foodList:size() > 0 then
                for v=1,foodList:size() do
                    local item = foodList:get(v-1)
                    if hbg.biowaste < maxWaste then
                        hbg.biowaste = hbg.biowaste + item:getCalories()
                        if item:getReplaceOnUse() then biowastecontainer:AddItem(item:getReplaceOnUse()) end
                            if biowastecontainer ==  item:getContainer() then
                            biowastecontainer:removeItemOnServer(item);
                            biowastecontainer:DoRemoveItem(item);
                            end
                        --biowastecontainer:Remove(item)
                    end
                end

[humble oriole]

hmm, I haven't tried that with the requestSync()

Also, how do you do the context highlights with the codeblock?

[ancient grail]

idont know what you mean

[nova socket]

@sour island if you don't mind a few words about some mod compat in DM

[humble oriole]

v

[ancient grail]

                                    if totalSellAmt == 0 then
                                        player:setHaloNote('Nothing to sell')
                                    else
                                        if getActivatedMods():contains("pz-shops-and-traders") and SandboxVars.FATM2.Wallet then
                                            local money = InventoryItemFactory.CreateItem('Base.Money')
                                            if money then
                                                generateMoneyValue(money, totalSellAmt)
                                                player:getInventory():AddItem(money)
                                            end
                                        else
                                            player:getInventory():AddItems('Base.Money', totalSellAmt)
                                        end
                                        player:setHaloNote('Recieved: $' .. totalSellAmt)
                                    end

                                    context:addOption("ATM2: Sell Direct to wallet", spr, (function()
                                    local totalSellAmt = FunctionalATMs2.getTotalItemsValue(obj:getContainer())
                                    totalSellAmt = math.floor(totalSellAmt)
                                    sendClientCommand("shop", "transferFunds", {
                                        giver = nil,
                                        give = totalSellAmt,
                                        receiver = player:getModData().wallet_UUID,
                                        receive = nil
                                    })
                                    if totalSellAmt == 0 then
                                        player:setHaloNote('Nothing to sell')
                                    else
                                        player:setHaloNote('Recieved: $' .. totalSellAmt)
                                    end
                                    getPlayerLoot(0):refreshBackpacks()
                                    obj:getContainer():setDrawDirty(true);
                                    playATMsfx(player)
                                    
                                end))

sharing to you my compat to his mod

[nova socket]

So he uses Base.Money I guess?

from first glimpse

[ancient grail]

ahh

`` ```lua
--codehere

``

[ancient grail]

no thats me

my atm can convert to money or transfer directly to chucks wallet

[nova socket]

wait so thats actual what and where, is it production code or you just made it?

oh ok

[ancient grail]

but im still having problem with refresh ithink

some not all plaeyrs doesnt refresh instantly the money is there but the visuals are buggeed

[nova socket]

So its easy peasy my API main currency is plain Base.Money and everything (besides gems and scrap which is SECONDARY currency set) can be reversed back and forth into Base.Money

I had some thought of possible conflicts so I decided to made it as close to vanilla as possible

[ancient grail]

https://github.com/Glytch3r/Functional_ATMs2

i still have a pull request from chuck but its working for now so ill pull and merge when someone says error

[humble oriole]

LOG  : General     , 1675762406158> 42,349,005> ERROR: addToItemSendBuffer parent=zombie.iso.objects.IsoThumpable@4018d47e item=zombie.inventory.types.Food@7847dff7
LOG  : General     , 1675762406158> 42,349,005> -----------------------------------------
STACK TRACE
-----------------------------------------
Callframe at: addItemOnServer```

still the same thing, I wonder if it's possible to hook into the item transfer and if the transfer fails then just doing a player prompt and putting it back in the player's inv

like "slow down" or something

[ancient grail]

you are probably sending it a string

and not an obj

maybe

[humble oriole]

it's vanilla, so... not sure how that's possible

[ancient grail]

then im wrong lol

[humble oriole]

it only happens if I transfer the item to the object container within like 10-15 seconds of doing the timed action, if I wait, the error doesn't happen.

[nova socket]

Besides maybe one conflict is that you can crack open the safe your mod might be using as functional

ATM*

[ancient grail]

poltergeist is perfect for these kinds of stuff

[ancient grail]

idont get it

[nova socket]

If you want you can push stuff https://bitbucket.org/demellion/pzmods/src/master/ if its worth a time.

[nova socket]

Currency mod has interactivity enabled, people can weld open safes and grab "virtual" money out of it.

It might break some immersion if somebody will crack open ATMs that is used for your Functional ATMs

[ancient grail]

i see

[nova socket]

https://bitbucket.org/demellion/pzmods/src/master/immersivecurrency/Contents/mods/immersivecurrency/media/lua/client/Actions/ActionATM.lua

[ancient grail]

sandbox might solve that

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2905858716

[nova socket]

woo I didn't see that one

full sprite integration neato

[ancient grail]

problem with this people report that the ownership isnt persitent

imust use global moddata but iodunno how yet

im learning it now for a diffrent mod

[nova socket]

anyways I predicted something like that AND

Money: Wallets - Money can be found in wallets, setting max to 0 will disable this feature
Money: Cash registers - Money can be found in cash registers, setting max to 0 will disable this feature
Money: ATMs - Money can be found in ATMs, setting max to 0 will disable this feature
Money: Safes - Money can be found in safes, setting max to 0 will disable this feature

Guess what

just shut it off in sandbox vars if its messing up and gg just use whatever mod you like

[ancient grail]

nicceeee

[thick karma]

I'll check this out today

[thick karma]

@nova socket Out of curiosity, why disable the ability to pick up cash registers? Is it necessary for the mod to work? Doesn't seem to make a lot of sense (from the simplistic perspective of the player who wants to be able to take believable courses of action)... cash registers are easy to carry. The rest of the stuff is fair enough.

[nova socket]

Because how people will start abusing this. Servers that will have ResetTime set to positive will encounter players that will be hoarding them in safehouses re-using them on reset. Simple solution is to keep them in places 24/7.

I'm an ex-gamdev specialized mostly on security solutions and anti-cheats.

[thick karma]

Ahhhh... no way to stop them from resetting I'm guessing?

[nova socket]

Well I can find out if that register is inside safehouse, but again, who told that they will not store them in some nearest house 1 square away from their safehouse.

Too much debris trying to fix it with measure, I would rather have a single countermeasure

[thick karma]

Can you set mod data on individual item objects, rather than types?

You could add a "movedByPlayer" flag perhaps?

[nova socket]

That's possible, but that is immediately killed by another gameplay issue. People are fucking hoarders. I made this Cant Grab This mod specifically for that case, since people tend to stash away things with that value of interests just to prevent others from looting it.

[fast galleon]

it's probably easier to store the last update time on the IsoObject ModData

[thick karma]

Hmmm seems a bit like disabling PvP because some people are toxic PvP players...

[nova socket]

Has nothing to do with PvP. Taking away object that can yield results turning it into a brick that does nothing specifically decreases needs for interactions, not disabling PvP

[thick karma]

But I hear you, to each their own. I was curious what other options existed. I noticed you used a global module, which is appreciated by me because it would make patching the behavior easy enough, assuming it's possible.

[thick karma]

It's an analogy

[fast galleon]

Is it supposed to work once? What's the logic?

[thick karma]

I am aware your mod is not related to PvP

[nova socket]

I mean if you want to make this optional you can push some sandbox var to completely ignore that behavior to my git

[thick karma]

I'm saying that disabling the ability to move cash registers because some small percent of players will spitefully hide them is like disabling PvP because some small percent of players will spitefully target newbies.

It's throwing away a system because of a small percent of people who abuse it basically.

Which is understandable, but not my preferred approach in this context (though I do play without PvP, so I understand in principle that sometimes it feels worth it to ditch a system).

I would have to see how it was done. I might try to figure out if I can flag items as player-moved.

[nova socket]

@thick karma no probs, just post it in comments or you can push it for pull request yourself.
https://bitbucket.org/demellion/pzmods/src/master/immersivecurrency/Contents/mods/immersivecurrency/media/lua/shared/ICMain.lua
line 253 you can wrap it with one sandbox option as bool

[thick karma]

Would allowing them to disassemble stuff break anything if they want that option (aside from the obvious fact that your code probably isn't written to give them the money inside the disassembled machine)?

@nova socket

[nova socket]

Its tied either to sprite name or custom name/group. Disassembled IsoObject is no longer an IsoObject

So if you destroy lets say register - its just goner, not gonna be used ever again.

[thick karma]

I'm not sure if I see your point.

I think most people expect stuff to be gone forever if they disassemble it.

(Unless perhaps there is a recipe for the object.)

[nova socket]

You don't disassemble objects in my mod to get results. You check them and timestamp them until ResetTime is passed

Unless ResetTime is -1 so its never gonna happen

If I got your question right.

[thick karma]

Yeah, I understand disassembly would only give vanilla components of disassembling the item... I'm just wondering if you expect it would break anything if someone did that.

Like, say I disassemble a safe (by changing that setting in your mod) . . . Yay, I now have safe components. Did I break your mod?

Or does your mod say, "Oh, well, one less safe in the world."

(I suspect some private players who do not have any concern for horders / cheaters because they play with friends who are normal human beings will want to disassemble stuff freely if possible, hence my question.)

(These security measures are priceless for public servers, but my friends are not trolls.)

[nova socket]

No, you didn't break anything. You can disassemble all safes in the world you just not gonna get money out of them. Its not that peculiar issue, since there are several pool of income with endless generation based on how you approach it.

[thick karma]

Great.

[nova socket]

You can earn money by solely smacking hundreds of zombos and selling scrap or trading it.

[thick karma]

I am gonna add a sandbox option for that, too, even though maybe only 5% of players will ever want it.

I am one of them probably.

[nova socket]

By "selling" I mean if you have any sort of shop, which I intend to create

[thick karma]

Your mod should be compatible with the vanilla player-to-player trade menu since you used items, which is nice.

[nova socket]

Not like you need mine shop either

[thick karma]

Players can just anarchistically demand money in the trade window.

[nova socket]

There is apparently a bunch of mods that use Base.Money the same way.

[thick karma]

Although actually I dunno

I think you can't put stacks...

I guess if you rubber-band money into single items it could work?

[nova socket]

Money Stack is effectively 100x of Base.Money

reversible as any drainable

[thick karma]

For sure. Yeah I guess it would be hard to use trade window for money-based trading

Would need an expansion

[nova socket]

Money Stack was solely a solution of immersion and carry capacity.

[thick karma]

Absolutely

[nova socket]

Also you get -3 unhappiness by making one stack

[ancient grail]

local pl = getPlayer() 
pl:setBumpType("stagger");
pl:setVariable("BumpDone", true)
pl:setVariable("BumpFall", false);
pl:setVariable("BumpFallType", "pushedBehind"); --pl:setBumpFallType("FallForward");
pl:reportEvent("wasBumped");

[ancient grail]

figured it out yet?

[thick karma]

Ohhh

You mean it makes you happy to stack money?

lmao I see.

[nova socket]

yep

[thick karma]

At first I was thinking it was a hassle and would make you unhappy, I got ya now.

[thick karma]

Does it give you +3 unhappiness to unstack your money?

[nova socket]

nope

[thick karma]

Seems like a highly exploitable issue?

[nova socket]

But you can't unstack the whole stack in one click

[thick karma]

Just play with your money and all your happiness comes back?

[nova socket]

Sort of. But waste a bit of your time, or you can smoke (everyone is smokers in this game) with the same value. Or read a book or do some sort of profession trait like with More Traits.

Note that counting money is timed action and will be slowed as you are deeply depressed making it a bit painful to count.

Same as with how people level reloading skills by juggling M9 mag in and out.

[thick karma]

I hear you, but this one sort of makes a lot of sense.

I mean, practicing reloading should in fact increase your reload skill

Pointlessly counting money only makes crazy people happy.

But I hear you that it is not without precedent in Zomboid

Smokers have to at least consume goods for their happiness, as well.

So that analogy is somewhat fair but imperfect

But it is like reading books over and over.

[nova socket]

Oh man, like people solely have thousands of cigs

I only seen few servers where they actually cared about cig amount

[thick karma]

It's not so bad, I just wanted to be sure it had crossed your mind.

I mean, I made a mod where you can meditate you're happiness back, so I'm not complaining

Just talking.

[nova socket]

I mean if you want an option for that too I don't mind either

Wrapping with one bool is sorta 5 minutes deal

[thick karma]

Totally, I'm not really stressed about it, but I'm sure some people will be.

Just because I know how people are.

[nova socket]

True

I'm noting that rn

need some sleep before proceeding

[thick karma]

For sure. I try to tailor my mods to a lot of different people who often want nothing like what I want lmao so I'm just throwing out ideas, so hopefully you won't take them as complaints. Mod looks great so far.

@nova socket You aware of this error?

ERROR: General     , 1675770500508> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.RuntimeException: unknown block type "//" at CustomSandboxOptions.parse line:107.
ERROR: General     , 1675770500509> DebugLogStream.printException> Stack trace:
java.lang.RuntimeException: unknown block type "//"
    at zombie.sandbox.CustomSandboxOptions.parse(CustomSandboxOptions.java:107)
    at zombie.sandbox.CustomSandboxOptions.readFile(CustomSandboxOptions.java:72)
    at zombie.sandbox.CustomSandboxOptions.init(CustomSandboxOptions.java:42)
    at zombie.GameWindow.init(GameWindow.java:1203)
    at zombie.GameWindow.mainThreadInit(GameWindow.java:576)
    at zombie.GameWindow.mainThread(GameWindow.java:489)
    at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

[thick karma]

@nova socket It was caused by the Java-style comments in your sandbox options.

Will include the fix in the PR

You'll wanna find a better place for this:

// Move to traders mod

// option ICurrency.SilverJunkCost = {
//     type = integer,
//     default = 1,
//     min = 0,
//     max = 100,
    
//     page = ImmersiveCurrency,
//     translation = ICurrency_SilverJunkCost,
//     valueTranslation = ICurrency_SilverJunkCost,
// }
// option ICurrency.GoldJunkCost = {
//     type = integer,
//     default = 2,
//     min = 0,
//     max = 100,
    
//     page = ImmersiveCurrency,
//     translation = ICurrency_GoldJunkCost,
//     valueTranslation = ICurrency_GoldJunkCost,
// }
// option ICurrency.GemsJunkCost = {
//     type = integer,
//     default = 3,
//     min = 0,
//     max = 100,
    
//     page = ImmersiveCurrency,
//     translation = ICurrency_GemsJunkCost,
//     valueTranslation = ICurrency_GemsJunkCost,
// }

[sour island]

Or use /* */

Also someone asked about DMs, and sure but chances are I won't see them cause of discords new DM stacking

[tame mulch]

Someone worked with Prop1, Prop2 parameters in recipes?

[ancient grail]

Me

[tame mulch]

What they mean?

[ancient grail]

Whatsup ?
The item character is holding

Source=1 can be the first line

2 second line
Useful if the item is from tags so its undefined

🫡

[thick karma]

Prop1 = Right Hand Item

[tame mulch]

Another question - what time used for time in recipes? Ticks, game time, etc?

[thick karma]

I don't know but if I had to wildly guess I would imagine it's ticks... Do people finish recipes faster at different game speeds? I'm not even sure.

[tame mulch]

I think it's gameTicks * Performance (FPS) coeff

[sour island]

It's the same ticks as timed actions - so I'd wager they're synced in MP somehow

[thick karma]

Thanks for the pro-tip.

[jaunty marten]

if u right then strange to link craft time and fps

[thick karma]

Anyone know whether Disassemble is ever an option on ATMs or cash registers? I'm guessing no? And can anyone give me the coords for a bank vault? Not sure where to find one... 😭

[jovial harness]

Anyone knows the base attack speed of "Bat", "Heavy", "Stab" and "Spear" weapon animations ?

[thick karma]

Not sure but you can use timed actions to respond to their animEvents

[jovial harness]

So no one has measured it yet ?

Cause right now I'm relying on Trombonaught's values but I don't think they're very accurate

[thick karma]

I mean I don't know about that logic... I am not everyone and you asked 3 minutes ago.

But I do not know the measurement. 🙂

But I do know you can do

function YourTimedAction:animEvent(parameterName, parameterValue)
    if parameterName == "AttackAnim" and parameterValue == "FALSE" then
        -- The attack animation has reached its set ending timepoint.
    end
end

Also written:

function YourTimedAction:animEvent(event, parameter)
    if event == "AttackAnim" and parameter == "FALSE" then
        -- The attack animation has reached its set ending timepoint.
    end
end

[jovial harness]

Ok that's helpful, thanks !

[thick karma]

Good luck!

By the way, if you are ever making your own XML for a custom animation, you can rename those events freely. So you take the timed event where it sends AttackAnim with FALSE and make it send AttackComplete with anything really, and just use

if event == "AttackComplete" then
    -- Same deal
end

But vanilla animations use AttackAnim with TRUE when the attack starts, and AttackAnim with FALSE when it ends.

@jovial harness

[jovial harness]

I see, I'm not making my own anims, I'm just trying to display accurate information

kinda like that

for a "weapon modifier' mod I was working on

[thick karma]

Oh, I see! Cool!

Does that require an overwrite of anything or can you just send those colors to the tooltip string?

[jovial harness]

I'm using ISToolTipInv:render() so... it's gonna conflict with anything that messes with that

[thick karma]

Okay, I figured you were. I can help you with compatibility on that.

[jaunty marten]

why can be conflict? u don't calling original render func?

[jovial harness]

I mean I do call the render after renaming it "old_render" but that's it

[thick karma]

You'll likely want to consider something like what Chuck's Named Lit does for its override if you are not affecting all conceivable items:

NLISUI.ISToolTipInv.render = ISToolTipInv.render

function ISToolTipInv:render()
    if not ISContextMenu.instance or not ISContextMenu.instance.visibleCheck then
        local itemObj = self.item
        if namedLit.StackableTypes[itemObj:getFullType()] then
            local bookNameLitInfo = itemObj:getModData()["namedLit"]
            if bookNameLitInfo then
            end
        else
            NLISUI.ISToolTipInv.render(self)
        end
    end
end

This calls the original render if it's not an item with custom data

[thick karma]

Oh so you stick it on the end?

[jovial harness]

I have

local old_render = ISToolTipInv.render at the top of the file

[thick karma]

Do you just append your data to the end of the render function that exists when you load the game?

[jovial harness]

and old_render(self)

at the end of my custom render

I'm heavily inspired by the mod "Show Weapon Stats" for the tooltips.

[thick karma]

I see, so you do your stuff first. Can I see how your render looks?

[jovial harness]

You wanna see my 270 lines render ? you sure?

[thick karma]

Haha yes.

I'm sure it won't bite.

[jovial harness]

I can upload files here ?

[thick karma]

Yep

[jovial harness]

You can see line 134 I'm checking the SwingAnim and basing attack speed out of it. Hence my original question

And those values are Trombonaught values

[jaunty marten]

if it's not a loop (no continue statement) better do like that 🥺

function ISToolTipInv:render()
    if ISContextMenu.instance and ISContextMenu.instance.visibleCheck then
        return
    end
    ...
end

[thick karma]

This looks like it should be compatible with NamedLit and Wookiee Gamepad Support due to line 40.

[jovial harness]

No idea what those are, but good

[thick karma]

I actually agree, I think Chuck copied it from vanilla style.

Not my mod, not my primary concern.

[thick karma]

Pretty cool mods that a lot of people will want to use that do tooltip stuff.

[jovial harness]

Let me look them up real quick

[jaunty marten]

u can put in on top of render instead 183 and 298 lines cos it's will called anyway

[thick karma]

NL adds special tooltips for books. WGS fixes the tooltip positions for people running large font sizes on gamepad. Also allows horizontal tooltip projection.

[jaunty marten]

vanilla

[thick karma]

Named Lit is one of my favorite mods so I added WGS support to make its tooltip positions match WGS.

(Optionally, of course.)

[jovial harness]

That's good then. Thanks for the feedback guys

[jaunty marten]

btw @jovial harness why are u creating new setHeight and drawRectBorder functions in render process?

u can create it outside of render function scope

[thick karma]

If you want to send me a working WIP I'll compatibility test it before you release.

I like your mod and I expect my friends may want it on my server

Looks nice.

[thick karma]

(I know it sounds nitpicky and I am not saying this for me because I actually like the look just fine, but a lighter purple might be easier to read on black . . . but you know to each their own.)

[jovial harness]

Good to know, I'll set it outside of the function

[tardy wren]

So, anyone tried changing the swingsound in the code before?

[jovial harness]

And about the colors. There's actually different colors according to rarity

and light purple is supposed to be epic rarity. I'll tweak it to be lighter so it's more readable

[thick karma]

@jovial harness Extracted, setHeight would look like this:

local stage = 1
local old_y = 0
local lineSpacing = self.tooltip:getLineSpacing()
local old_setHeight = self.setHeight

function ISToolTipInv:setHeight(num, ...)
    if stage == 1 then
        stage = 2
        old_y = num
        num = num + numRows * lineSpacing
    else 
        stage = -1 --error
    end
    return old_setHeight(self, num, ...)
end

Hopefully you can solve the other one based on that

I'd throw them above render because even though it's not strictly necessary based on pattern of execution the local copy of old_setHeight is used in render.

ISToolTipInv:setHeight passes self automatically.

[jovial harness]

All right. TIme to refacto some things then ! thanks for the advices!

[thick karma]

Also, tbh, food for thought, I would wrap all of my wandering locals in a module, but that's just me

[jovial harness]

You mean put them all in a table or set them in IsToolTipInv constructor as part of the object ?

[thick karma]

E.g., using find and replace, I would refactor this:

local old_render = ISToolTipInv.render
local item = nil
local numRows = 0
local modifier = nil
local modifierName = ""
local fullItemName = ""
local modifierColors = {1, 1, 1}
local modifier = {}

local damageText = nil
local rangeText = nil
local hitText = nil
local critText = nil
local condText = nil
local breakText = nil
local accText = nil
local gunText = nil
local weaponText = "TET"
local soundRadiusText = nil
local pushBackText = nil
local speedText = nil
local category = nil
local old_render = ISToolTipInv.render

like this:

local WMT = {}

WMT.numRows = 0

WMT.modifierName = ""
WMT.fullItemName = ""
WMT.weaponText = "TET"

WMT.item = nil
WMT.modifier = nil
WMT.damageText = nil
WMT.rangeText = nil
WMT.hitText = nil
WMT.critText = nil
WMT.condText = nil
WMT.breakText = nil
WMT.accText = nil
WMT.gunText = nil
WMT.soundRadiusText = nil
WMT.pushBackText = nil
WMT.speedText = nil
WMT.category = nil

WMT.modifierColors = {1, 1, 1}
WMT.modifier = {}

WMT.ISToolTipInv = {}
WMT.ISToolTipInv.render = ISToolTipInv.render

[jovial harness]

table then, got it

[thick karma]

Then, at the bottom (last line of your file), you can do return WMT and other modders can play with stuff if necessary by require "[yourfilename]"

[jovial harness]

Ah I see. Good stuff

[thick karma]

Notice I changed old_render to WMT.ISToolTipInv.render.... this will require 1 extra line of code to work (it's in the example above, too):
WMT.ISToolTipInv = {}

That declares the fake ISToolTipInv table (inside your module) in which you'll store the old copies of all the ISToolTipInv stuff you want to overwrite.

Then everything you override will read almost identically to vanilla

[jovial harness]

Yeah so you really store everything that was local then

I'll have to do that for More Description For Traits, too. It doesn't use modules

[bronze yoke]

why include the function copies?

[thick karma]

Wdym?

[bronze yoke]

putting old_render into the module

i'm just curious if there's a specific use for that

[thick karma]

Just in case someone wants to slightly modify your approach, it may be useful for them to be able to get a copy of the function before your mod edited it.

Just to make a patch mod easier on the next person.

[bronze yoke]

oh, i guess you could use that to insert code between the vanilla function and the modded one

[thick karma]

Yeah

or even change the modded code slightly and overwrite differently.

[bronze yoke]

i'll consider moving some of mine into the modules

[thick karma]

I do everything I can to make life easier on whoever has to pick up my code when I inevitably move on with my life lmao

[jaunty marten]

if he will use it only in single file then no need to create module with variables

[thick karma]

I'm sure someday there will be other games and other modding to do

[jaunty marten]

old_render especially

poorer performance

[thick karma]

There is no need for him to do it. There may be value to future modders who want to patch his work.

It's still a local and the performance difference would be absolutely trivial

Measure it and let me know lmao

(if it can be measured)

(it may be too negligible)

Micro-optimization matters less to me than mod compatibility, but obviously this is subjective.

[jaunty marten]

I don't think there will mod that will change nil variables

[thick karma]

Clearly all modders must do what is right in their own hearts.

[thick karma]

Lmao I honestly didn't notice all the nil variables because I just did a Find and Replace on their code.

@jovial harness You really don't need to declare these variables nil. They're nil by default.

[jaunty marten]

me too just saw

[thick karma]

Omg so many lol

[jaunty marten]

but it's fine cos otherwise he will localize it in different scope and will can't use it

[bronze yoke]

it was necessary for scope when they were locals

[jaunty marten]

oh stop

there's no different scope

[thick karma]

Really? Why?

[jovial harness]

goddammit. This is why I didn't want to share my file haha 😂

[thick karma]

Ohhhh I see

Because in Lua it allows him to just start using the variable later to go var = nil

I got you now.

[jaunty marten]

there's single scope, so fine

[bronze yoke]

yeah, it doesn't matter when using a module though

[thick karma]

local WMT = {}
WMT.numRows = 0
WMT.modifierName = ""
WMT.fullItemName = ""
WMT.modifierColors = {1, 1, 1}
WMT.modifier = {}
WMT.weaponText = "TET"
WMT.ISToolTipInv = {}
WMT.ISToolTipInv.render = ISToolTipInv.render

@jovial harness

Would be the new top of your code with the unnecessary nil variables gone.

[bronze yoke]

i'd argue it can also be good for organisation to 'declare' nil variables but i don't think i would do it myself

[jaunty marten]

@jovial harness btw instead this

if swingAnim == "Bat" then
    swingAnimSpeed = 1
elseif swingAnim == "Heavy" then
    swingAnimSpeed = 0.6
elseif swingAnim == "Stab" or swingAnim == "Spear" then
    swingAnimSpeed = 1.13
else
    swingAnimSpeed = 1
end

[jovial harness]

yeah ?

[thick karma]

I hear you but yeah I don't like the look of unnecessary declarations.

But totally there's validity to that

(Maybe grouping your nil variables in a block would make some sense, on that note. If you keep them.)

[jaunty marten]

u can precreate table

local swingAimToSpeed = {
["Bat"] = 1,
["Heavy"] = 0.6,
["Stab"] = 1.13,
["Spear"] = 1.13,
}

[jovial harness]

aaah yes good trick.

[jaunty marten]

swingAnimSpeed = swingAimToSpeed[item:getSwingAnim()] or 1

[jovial harness]

then just select the index, yeah

[jaunty marten]

[jovial harness]

I might as well make it part of the module, too

[thick karma]

@jovial harness Or, in module form:

WMT.swingAimToSpeed = {
    ["Bat"] = 1, 
    ["Heavy"] = 0.6,
    ["Stab"] = 1.13,
    ["Spear"] = 1.13,
}

[jovial harness]

yep

[jaunty marten]

with this part same thing

[thick karma]

(also, you should really tab those because those are in their own scope)

[jovial harness]

Bruh I'm getting slaughtered with all your corrections right now lmao

But it's great to learn !

[ancient grail]

Hello guys

[jaunty marten]

local statsRange = {
  -- here's all stats as from last my example ("accuracy", "sound radius" and etc)
}
local statsMelee = {
  -- here's all stats as from last my example ("endurance cost", "attack speed" and etc)
}

-- 221 line
elseif statsRange[k] and not item:isRanged() or statsMelee [k] and item:isRanged() then break

[ancient grail]

What wizardry is this senpai

[thick karma]

@jovial harness I noticed you declared old_render twice... fixed that in my example above and reorganized declarations by type while I was at it.

[jovial harness]

Ah yes I used that trick for More Loot Settings. Bear with me, this "Weapon Modifiers" mod is something I started last year and I abandoned half way through so there are some things I'm surprised about too.

Thanks for pointing that out !

[jaunty marten]

u r welcome

[thick karma]

By the way @jovial harness, when you find and replace, remember to match case and whole word to minimize errors:

otherwise you could have stuff like modifierName -> WMT.modifierName and then replace modifier and wind up with WMT.modifierName -> WMT.WMT.modifierName

Which is clearly undesirable

And a real possible example from your code.

[jovial harness]

Hmm, that option isn't displayed in my vscode

[thick karma]

The ab?

[jovial harness]

Match Whole Word

[thick karma]

That's the option

ab underlined

You don't see ab?

[jaunty marten]

The Aa?

[jovial harness]

oh yeah that's just the tooltip! thanks

[thick karma]

No Aa is match case

[jaunty marten]

then Item will be replaced too

[thick karma]

Without it

Yes

If you do not select match case, you'll replace both item and Item simultaneously.

[jaunty marten]

better use both always with replacing actions

[thick karma]

Exactly.

[jaunty marten]

[thick karma]

What is this?

[jaunty marten]

looks like cookie or pizza mb

[jovial harness]

A pizza ?

[thick karma]

Hell yes

lol I am making a tutorial mod and the trait is "Party Animal" 😛

I am horrible at pixel art but I did something recognizable so I won a round.

[jaunty marten]

with name will be easier

[jovial harness]

It looks good but wait to see it in the character creator

sometimes it doesn't end up as you want it

[thick karma]

😭

[jovial harness]

speaking from experience lol. But maybe I'm just terrible at pixel art myself !

[thick karma]

P hard to tell something is pizza when it's that small 😭

[jovial harness]

Maybe cut a slice of that pizza

[jaunty marten]

btw good idea, piece of pizza will be better

[jovial harness]

and some wine glass or beer right beside it. or a party hat ? Maybe that's overkill

[faint jewel]

it's a POOKIE

[thick karma]

lol

[thick karma]

It's a 16 pixel by 16 pixel image

A party hat alone is hard to distinguish

[jovial harness]

That looks better

[thick karma]

I made toppings twice as large and made pizza fill the whole 16x16 instead of stopping before the edge.

[jovial harness]

For one of my traits I used one of the inventory images of the game (32 x 32) and scaled it down to 16x16 and added a +

[jovial harness]

oh that looks good

[thick karma]

Fair enough

[jovial harness]

This one is great

[thick karma]

Thickened the crust, but I think I also need to lighten the brown for better visibility on black...

[jovial harness]

Could you make a drop of cheese drip from it ? 🤤

[thick karma]

Yes but how compellingly I do not know

It may just look like a different object instead of drippy cheese lol

But I'll give it a shot

Think I'm likely to go with this:

Best visibility yet in normal view:

Tooltip lol.

[jovial harness]

What does it do ?

[thick karma]

lol not much yet. Probably just going to make it say silly crap once an hour as an example of how to use modulo arithmetic to loop through an array since so many modders seem to have never seen that before.

[jovial harness]

including me !

[thick karma]

local example = {
  [1] = "Bob",
  [2] = "Joe",
  [3] = "Sue"
}

local exampleIndex = 1

local examples = 0

while examples < 100 do

    print(example[exampleIndex])

    exampleIndex = (exampleIndex % #example) + 1    
  
    examples = examples + 1

end

@jovial harness

[jovial harness]

Oh, so it goes back to 1 after 3 then

[thick karma]

(In 0-indexed arrays, you would do next = (next + 1) % #example).

[jaunty marten]

for what this mutant? xd

ah, btw about next, I remember as I tried to use it but got nil error, there's no next in kahlua? 🥴

[thick karma]

Ummm yeah in retrospect maybe next is a bad variable name because actually it gets colorized funny in VS Code @jovial harness

Changed it to exampleIndex to be on the safe side.

[thick karma]

I use modulo loops like this for Position Breakdown a lot, when looping through its various settings.

[jovial harness]

Not my vscode. Do you have the lua extension ?

[thick karma]

Which one?

I don't know if I have a good one

I'm open to recommendations

[jovial harness]

I use Lua, StyLua and Luacheck

[jaunty marten]

I'm using garry's mod lua

[thick karma]

Author on Lua? 4 plug-ins with the same name. Oof. @jovial harness

[jaunty swan]

burryaga, why are u using that instead of a random number ?

its just to say messages right

[thick karma]

@jaunty swan I would use a random number if it were a real mod.

[red tiger]

Good morning.

@jaunty marten Ever get time to look at that mod loader experiment?

[jaunty swan]

oh okay nvm then ! 🙂

[thick karma]

I am purely going to do the loop because my mod is an example mod for people to learn with

[jaunty swan]

wouldnt a for loop be better then

[jovial harness]

I'm using Lua by sumneko, StyLua by JohnyMorganz and Luacheck by rog2.

[thick karma]

@jaunty swan And I often see:

next = next + 1
if next > #example then
  next = 1
end

And I just want to die.

So this needs to be taught lmao

[red tiger]

Random in PZ is implemented in a very concerning way.

[jaunty swan]

for i = 10,1,-1 
do 
   print(i) 
end

[red tiger]

Everything uses a high-quality PRNG.

[jaunty swan]

jab, is there a time function

where u get the bit

[red tiger]

Nano or ms?

[jaunty swan]

ms

[red tiger]

Yes

[jaunty swan]

either is fine really

then u have a random number

divide it by a certain amount and round it

[red tiger]

I'll grab the API call

[jaunty swan]

im completely unfamiliar with pz modding to be clear

just experienced in programming

[red tiger]

getTimestamp()

[red tiger]

No worries. I mod the game's engine to have more control over modding it.

I also use Typescript in place of Lua so I can have more structure in my mods.

[jaunty swan]

lua is my first language i ever learned, i think i stick to it for that reason tbh haha

when it comes to modding gmaes

games*

that or c#

[red tiger]

Functional programming is a desirable skill. Learn OOP when you get time to. It'll diversify your problem-solving.

[jaunty swan]

i have hehe

i did a full course

but u can make your own OOP system in lua

if u want to

with require

and making external lua files

[red tiger]

You'll learn more about how you think about solving problems when you give yourself a project that you want to work on.

=)

[jaunty swan]

im actually working on a mvc web app for a friends mc server

im looking for a job as junior .net dev right now

[thick karma]

A Marvel vs Capcom Web App, why would anyone want such a thing?

</sarcasm>

Thanks, I'll be here all week.

MAYBE...

[jaunty swan]

xddd

[faint jewel]

if anyone needs their own web app, it's spiderman.

[thick karma]

True, true.

[jaunty swan]

nah man, its the SCAT MAN

https://tenor.com/view/scatman-john-scatman-scatmans-world-skibidi-bum-du-du-du-gif-14752774

[red tiger]

@jaunty marten Let me know when you do take a look at that mod loader experiment. Curious to know your thoughts on it.

It could be improved to send byte data for files if desired.

[jaunty marten]

not way, mb today will test

just right for my current mod

loading in specific order

[red tiger]

Ok no problem. I don't expect anything.. Curious about what others think of the work.

[sour island]

Heh, that's clever -- the vanilla code for inventory containers loops through functions recursively

It was a bitch and a half to get locked out containers for my shops to work right

[thick karma]

Ooooof.

[jovial harness]

How do I get the color-blind variables 'good' highlight color & 'bad' highlight color ? I can't seem to find them in the files

[sour island]

Still thinking about how I'd get the patch mod to load last

So anyone using it properly will be fine if they require as needed

But other mods get shafted

[jaunty marten]

wait 1 tick? or what do u want

[sour island]

Hmm that could be a good idea

I started a community patch mod to go along with frameworks and debugtools

But I'm thinking how best to have it loaded

Overwriting to be first would be ideal for some cases

But for the most part loading last would also overwrite bad actors

Haven't really sat down with the concept yet

Perhaps loading first is better now that I think about it

[red tiger]

A community mod library should include tick-registration alongside a timer library.

Less event handles on the Java side.

[faint jewel]

I need a good time library

[red tiger]

I have a sync timer library

(It's somewhere)

[dark wedge]

You can add an Event function to the stack during the event, that way your event function is last.

    Events.OnGameBoot.Add(function()
        OnPostBoot()
    end)
end
Events.OnGameBoot.Add(firstBoot)```
This basically guarantees that the `OnPostBoot` function will run last during the `Boot` event. Can use something similar to ensure any patches run last.

[jaunty marten]

u can take mine

[faint jewel]

while those are nice, I dont need timers. I need a way to get teh current IRL time, add time to it in seconds.

[jaunty marten]

is it will be called twices? huh?

[faint jewel]

stuff like that.

[red tiger]

Assert lib.

Nice.

[jaunty marten]

didn't get u 😄

[red tiger]

Haha. Found this old gem: https://github.com/asledgehammer/Sledgehammer-old/blob/master/lua/SledgehammerLua/media/lua/client/Request.Lua

[jaunty marten]

os.time() + x? or what

[faint jewel]

well os.time doesn't seem to work the way it SHOULD.

[dark wedge]

What? On game boot it would first call firstBoot() which adds OnPostBoot() to the Boot Event stack, it then calls OnPostBoot(). nothing would be called twice....

[faint jewel]

i tried that and it is never the right time.

[jaunty marten]

there's two OnGameBoot no onpostboot

[dark wedge]

right.

[red tiger]

Lunch break. BBL.

[sour island]

I don't think there's going to be a silver bullet - might have to just document everything and go with what works for each scenario

[dark wedge]

OnPostBoot() is your own function. you are just adding it to the Boot event stack once during the boot event....

[jaunty marten]

ah, it calling even the world loaded AND literally game started

this event name..

[jaunty marten]

it's don't sync with time zone

[faint jewel]

i mean i add 1000 seconds to it and it adds 3 minutes,.

[jaunty marten]

how did u figure out it?

it can't, os.time just returns the num

0 + 1000 can't be 180

[faint jewel]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand welcome to my issue!

[drifting ore]

i'd be interested in seeing that code also that gets you that

[jaunty marten]

how did u format the number to time?

[nova socket]

Oh that, ya, thats absolete will remove it

[thick karma]

Cool.

Are you sure safes / vaults / cash registers / ATMs can be disassembled in vanilla? @nova socket

I have not yet had a chance to check but I tried disassembling them all with your mod running (after I removed the command to remove disassembly) and none of them were offering that option.

Moving stuff worked fine.

[nova socket]

Registers and Vaults yes.

[faint jewel]

        local adjDelivery = os.time() + adjTime1;```

[thick karma]

I'll check again

[faint jewel]

because i kinda gave up on it.

lol

[thick karma]

@jovial harness Drippy cheese?

[jovial harness]

yum

[thick karma]

Or not obvious enough that it's pizza?

[jovial harness]

I think it's pretty obvious

[thick karma]

For comparison:

[jaunty marten]

u want to say if I run it will be this??

-- os.time = 3000
local adjTime1 = 360 --math.floor(adjDist) * 60
local adjDelivery = os.time() + adjTime1;
=> adjDelivery = 3180

[jovial harness]

drippy cheese ftw

[faint jewel]

i want it to add the distance in tiles to the current time (1 tile per second driving is good right?)

[thick karma]

Everyone vote on which pizza to use!

I cannot decide!

[sour island]

Left is better

[thick karma]

Thanks, Discord Previews.

Nice job.

Pretty unanimous that people like drippy cheese, got it.

[jaunty marten]

idk about if it's good cos idk for what u will use it he-he

[thick karma]

(I double-voted to show the options.)

[faint jewel]

trucking mod.. i want to taek the distance bwtween picup and delivery points in tiles, add that to the current time, and make that the delivery time.

[jaunty marten]

no need options, first is winner, voting is declared closed.

[faint jewel]

maybe add 10-15% to the tiles for a little buffer etc.

[jaunty marten]

idk what's the problem cos it's literally cannot happen, 5 + 10 = 15 but no way is 8 XD

[faint jewel]

        local adjTime1 = 360 --math.floor(adjDist) * 60
        local adjDelivery = os.time() + adjTime1;
    
        local readjDelivery = os.date("%B %d %Y, %I:%M %p", adjDelivery);

that's how i do it. and it's never right

[jaunty marten]

os.date exists? lol

[faint jewel]

YUP

[jaunty marten]

I saw kahlua manual and there's only time

lmao

[quasi kernel]

Me when os.clock my beloved doesn't exist in Kahlua

[jaunty marten]

yea, sadly no clock

[thick karma]

I haven't asked this modding channel directly but since the voting is almost closed, I'm gonna ask once: how many trait points do y'all think Darkvision should cost on servers that allow it? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2916589393

[nova socket]

@thick karma ```Lua
option ICurrency.DoProtect = {
type = boolean,
default = true,

page = ImmersiveCurrency,
translation = ICurrency_DoProtect,
valueTranslation = ICurrency_DoProtect,

}
option ICurrency.GiveMood = {
type = boolean,
default = true,

page = ImmersiveCurrency,
translation = ICurrency_GiveMood,
valueTranslation = ICurrency_GiveMood,

}

Tweaked, options are now effective

[quasi kernel]

I don't know how possible this is, but it'd be neat if it worked off of sandbox settings.

Lower light values at night = higher cost

I haven't poked around with traits yet so forgive me if this isn't possible.

[jaunty marten]

test this format %H:%M:%S

[jaunty marten]

only in cheat mode

light like there's day not late night

[red tiger]

setExposed(Date.class) when?

lol

[jovial harness]

should cost 8 points at least, it seems op

[jaunty marten]

web engine when?

lol

[red tiger]

Haha

=)

[jaunty marten]

I want human in-game ide

[red tiger]

I want PipeWrench to have fully-functioning TS for PZ's Lua codebase

[jaunty marten]

I got what you mean

don't make me cry

[red tiger]

Haha. What I'm doing right now will help that HTML engine.

[jaunty marten]

[thick karma]

Not possible unfortunately.

[red tiger]

Why do something twice when you can do it right the first time?

[thick karma]

Haha, totally I understand some people will feel that way.

The mod is not for every server.

[faint jewel]

just hours minutes seconds?

[jaunty marten]

do u will restrict access for some servers?

ha-ha

[jaunty marten]

yea, just for test

[thick karma]

I mean not every server will want it. It's not restricted

[faint jewel]

it reads correctly though?

[thick karma]

I could however add brightness limits that host could set.

[jaunty marten]

yep

[nova socket]

I don't think you can even restrict anything, since all mod code is open-source anyways.

You can copy and paste it in workshop again.

[thick karma]

You can make the mod private.

[red tiger]

There's a few fun ways you can restrict code.

[nova socket]

I mean they will still read the mod data

[red tiger]

Oh with mod data? Yeah you could make it annoying to access.

[thick karma]

Yes, if you give the wrong person access, they can still get your mod even if it is private. But, in theory, if your mod is private and you only play with trusted players, you can keep it that way.

[nova socket]

What you wanna tell me somebody really obfuscates the mod code?

[red tiger]

@jaunty marten Knows what I'm talking about.

[jaunty marten]

obfuscated code

[thick karma]

No, I mean you make the Steam Workshop Item private.

So no one can find it unless you give them access.

[nova socket]

I mean what Jab said specifically

[thick karma]

Ohhhh

[red tiger]

If you can make it so that the only way for the mod to work is to upload a workshop item, then you can DCMA them out of orbit.

[jaunty marten]

u can even do web loading for mod

[red tiger]

Only if fed through the server to client.

[nova socket]

Wasn't sockets or any sort of fetch not an option for PZ Lua?

[jaunty marten]

yh

[thick karma]

Would you have a point recommendation IF it had sandbox settings for a max brightness?

[quasi kernel]

Hm..

[jaunty marten]

never used exactly in pz, but there's mods with content from web like twitch extension so there's

[quasi kernel]

I wanna say 6~7 with sandbox option.

[drifting ore]

does anyone know where the file/files where dismantling data is stored? like when you dismantle an electronic thing with a screw driver? where is all that laid out? tagged on the indiviual item? in some file somewhere?

[thick karma]

Cool sounds good.

[red tiger]

You can HTTP POST if you set java.awt.headless=false on the JVM args when launching PZ and using openUrl(..).

No GET though.

That'll open a browser window.

[jaunty marten]

then how twitch extensions works?

[red tiger]

Heck if I know. I only know how my Twitch patch mod works.

[jaunty marten]

custom java?

[red tiger]

Yes.

I use an RCON mod along with a Generic command that feeds into a Lua command registry.

[jaunty marten]

seems right, just checked m3ss mod

[faint jewel]

no i meani t reads out the tiume and date fine, it just wont let me add or subtract froim it correctly.

[red tiger]

My stuff's in-house.

[jaunty marten]

u need to format it each time lol

[nova socket]

oh you mean that. That one is using 3rd-party app with socket, that's what author confirmed.

[drifting ore]

where is the data on crafting recipies stored?

[jaunty marten]

yeah, u can ask @pulsar heath about it

[nova socket]

I know, we've been discussing that with him

[red tiger]

Yo, when will we get openUrl() fixed so I can add a button to join my Discord server from in-game? :D

[tame mulch]

Sad that we disabled open web links) I had cool rick roll mod 😄

Ooooh, started working on guide about item script params It will be long night...

[red tiger]

Was it purposely disabled?

[red tiger]

Do want. I plan to add a GUI solution for mapping and defining items.

[tame mulch]

I think yes

[ancient grail]

[nova socket]

Allow us to use sockets on servers so I don't have script everything with bash outside.

[red tiger]

Thanks for clarifying. Are there plans to re-enable it? (Possibly with a dialog box prompting the user to open it or not?) (Whitelist domains?)

like discord.gg for discord invites? :D

[tame mulch]

Maybe. Write suggestion on TIS forum, we will discuss about it later

[red tiger]

I'll draft a proposal. Thanks.

[ancient grail]

Thank you for helpping us modders sir 🫡

[jaunty marten]

enable it in the name of rick roll

[red tiger]

BTW where do I go to appeal a ban on the forums?

[tame mulch]

Ask Spiffo

[jaunty marten]

u get banned?

[red tiger]

❤️

[red tiger]

In 2016 yeah lol

[jaunty marten]

lul

for what

[nova socket]

Forums

[red tiger]

Off-topic for in here. =)

[jaunty marten]

not bad not bad

[nova socket]

[jaunty marten]

I thought mb u get banned by million threads about new features for game

[nova socket]

Jab probably transpiled his text way to something different than TS back in 2016

[red tiger]

Hahaha no it was silly MP drama.

[jaunty marten]

u killed developer in mp?

[red tiger]

I kill players in PvE servers all the time.

[jaunty marten]

oh.. really shit

u killer, well-deserved ban

need to be friendly

[nova socket]

toxec

[naive crescent]

@dark wedge Hows your mod coming along?

[tame mulch]

Item scripts have 335 different parameters

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-screaming-scream-scalie-furry-gif-22748303

[red tiger]

That's a yup.

Planned on copying ScriptItem's list of params into a GUI editor interpreting it in JSON and exporting it to the game's text format.

[tame mulch]

Here WIP article about scripts. Done on 40%, not translated - https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Scripts_guide

[red tiger]

Thanks. I'll refer to your work while making this editor.

[dark wedge]

It's coming. lol. I still need to tweak a few things, optimize how i'm gathering objects to hit (this can be slow currently), and write a function to calculate damage as it doesn't take into account your skills and such right now for attacks. I got sidetracked with the whole unarmed thing a bit, but now there's an uppercut you can do as part of it. I'm currently using the base game's Base.BareHands item so the range is a bit off, but this shows me actually unarmed attacking.

[nova socket]

interesting, so they are timed actions but with no run/walk flags

do you apply damage like to closest zed?

[dark wedge]

Yup. I used a TimedAction so that the animation is synced for MP and I don't have to fuss with any of that. And yes, I apply damage to the closest zed as long as they are in range of the attack.

[red tiger]

Wondering if an animation sync API would be in the works eventually.

[dark wedge]

It would be so nice to have animation variables set on players just sync with each other automatically...

[tame mulch]

We have sync, but it depends on State. Player params sync depends on State (Like TimedActionState, EmoteState, FishingState)

[drifting ore]

why is there items.txt and newitems.txt? are the items jsut arbitraily split up in there? or do the 2 docs reprisent diffrent things?

[thick karma]

Classic party movie or partying-oriented quotes, all of you, go! 🤪 (It's for my mod, it's on topic . . .)

[faint jewel]

see the distance? that's in tiles. tell me how the start and due are that many seconds parat.

when i add that distance to the start time in seconds.

[dark wedge]

Yea I noticed this. But even then its not perfect as the action variables are synced, but not variables set on the player. Additionally, you can't sync numbers with a TimedAction, only strings and bools. So speeds and stuff have to by synced outside of the TimedAction, unless I'm missing something....

[jaunty marten]

due is exactly current time?

[tame mulch]

You can convert number from string

[faint jewel]

start time is the time I click accept job.

due time should be that time PLUS the distance in seconds

5874 seconds is NOT 3 minutes.

[jaunty marten]

why do u need it in due? what the failure then?

[jaunty marten]

show the actual code

[faint jewel]

i dd?

started = os.time.

due = ```
local adjTime1 = math.floor(adjDist)*60
local adjDelivery = os.time() + adjTime1;

failure = adjtime *2

[jaunty marten]

I mean full code

[faint jewel]

it aint all together like that.

[jaunty marten]

cos don't see any problem here

[faint jewel]

neither do I! and THAT is the issue.

[dark wedge]

You can convert number from string

[jaunty marten]

u can send all files to dm, I will check as will back to pc, rn chilling in da bed

can't get up.. xp

[hot patrol]

Looking good. Can't wait to get my hands on this and the duel wielding. Are they gonna be part of the same mod or something seperate?

[drifting ore]

Modders, is the pz animation engine hard to work with?

[tame mulch]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2867805604

[dark wedge]

The unarmed stuff will be included with the offhand attacking mod, but will have sandbox options to disable it if people don't want it.

[hot patrol]

nice

[naive crescent]

Right on man, this is my most anticipated mod right now, cant wait to try it out.

So I apologize in advance if I hit you up for updates from time to time. xD

[hot patrol]

right there with you. This'll be a must have until it is part of the main game

[dark wedge]

No worries! If all goes well, it shouldn't be too much longer. 🙂

[wheat kraken]

there is a link to in-development guide?

[tame mulch]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Scripts_guide

[wheat kraken]

@tame mulch are you planning to continue npc mod? can i help you?

[tame mulch]

I stopped working on the NPC mod

[hot patrol]

I'm sure your busy with working on the actual game but any chance that better towing and lockpicking might someday get an update to fix them?

[tame mulch]

Maybe in this month on weekends I will fix them (after finish modding guide)

[red tiger]

Do you need an native English-speaking translator for docs / guides?

[tame mulch]

Will be very cool if English native speaker will check my guides for mistakes (After I finish them). English is not my native lang, so I think will be some spelling problems in my guides.

[red tiger]

I think your guide was in mainly Russian?

I've worked with some friends who had game manuals that I translated. (I don't speak Russian; I can fix very broken English)

[tame mulch]

Will be cool if you will help with broken English. I will write here when my guides will be finished.

[red tiger]

Would be very glad to help. This is my love for modding the game. <3

[naive crescent]

Your doing the lords work right now and everyone appreciates it. Ill help out in anyway I can as well.

Want to give back to the game that gave me so much

[drifting ore]

so the proper way for me to edit items needed for recipe using sandbox var is to use OnCanPerform? then i just make a function for it and use scriptmanager to assign the value of needed amounts per item and should be able to use sandboxvar in it from there?

[ancient grail]

why does it say english but its on a diffrent language

[tame mulch]

WIP. I write in my main lang

[naive crescent]

Translation is coming

[tame mulch]

then translate

[ancient grail]

also why cant we use lua to edit every param.. only doparam works and that edits everything
will we be able to edit it for specific instance without changing everything

[tame mulch]

What problem with DoParam?

[ancient grail]

doparam chagnes everything that will spawn in the future

[tame mulch]

You mean change script for 1 item instance?

Scripts used for spawn items. For change item instance values used another funcs

[red tiger]

Since Ramiro#0112 can't speak in here (Issues registering phone # to talk here), I'll ask for them. What do you guys do to handle importing .x models for Blender?

[white quest]

Check out gunas' DirectX importer (.x), should be easily found online on github via "oguna".

[willow estuary]

Martin, our modeller, owns and uses professional software that allows him to easily use .x files.
I don't think we even use Blender internally.

[naive crescent]

What program is it?

[willow estuary]

Something expensive? I don't remember.

Skynetdesk Pro Licensed?

[ancient grail]

yes like setName, setMaxRange

[willow estuary]

I dunno, I'm sure he'll reply to me eventually

[ancient grail]

but not everything can be set

[naive crescent]

Im curious because I use professional expensive software aswell and it cant read .x files at all

If you could find out that would be really appreciated

[willow estuary]

I mean, something has to use it since the format exists and it's not something Martin made from scratch?

[red tiger]

What version of Blender does it work in?

This info is useful to many.

[white quest]

It's updated frequently so 3.0+ I'm pretty sure

[naive crescent]

I figured, Ive shopped around but couldnt find anything to read it. Id be interested in seeing what that program could offer me.

[red tiger]

The modder in question had Python errors. It could be them installing it wrong but being sure.

[willow estuary]

It is the alin exporter plugin for 3ds max, can't quite remember the website address. It's free but you pay a $100 for a commercial license.

[red tiger]

What version do you use specifically so I can pass that?

[willow estuary]

Huh, thought he was more posh than that.

[drifting ore]

lol

[naive crescent]

Perfect 3ds max is already what I use

[red tiger]

Blender is finicky with version control.

[white quest]

Checked right now, the latest version is made for Blender 3.4, there's a download guide on his github.

[naive crescent]

Ill do some more digging, thanks a bunch.

[ancient grail]

i uise autodesk maya

[red tiger]

Thanks

[tame mulch]

For convert .x models to .fbx you can use this: https://imagetostl.com/convert/file/x/to/fbx

[ancient grail]

and its not compatible at all

so sad

[tame mulch]

But not work with anims

[naive crescent]

I hate blender, Ive tried so many times but cant seem to adapt to it.

[red tiger]

Used Blender since 2.4

Oldhat here.

Since the days of that big bunny animation.

Buck I think was his name.

[faint jewel]

big buck bunny.

IS BEST BUNNY

[dark wedge]

Same. Big Buck Bunny was a classic. 😄

[naive crescent]

Its specifically for anims, that I want it for. Fragmotion gives me an aneurism when I use it.

[faint jewel]

blender can export .fbx which PZ can use.

[tame mulch]

I think only way now = use fbx anim guid in steam and if need - recreate default anims

[dark wedge]

I currently am stuck using fragMotion to make edits to animations. It sucks so much......
For making your own from scratch, you can use Blender.

[faint jewel]

there are examples pined in the #modeling channel.

[red tiger]

(Runs off and rewrites IO plugins for Blender)

BTW I found out that my old PZ IO scripts are in a Blender archive.

[naive crescent]

I was messing around with it when a the .fbx character model was released and got mixed results at the time. Id have to try it again when I get a moment.

[red tiger]

Someone also copied my old scripts. (Thanks!) https://github.com/rundaaa/ZomboidImportExport

[naive crescent]

I spent way to long using framotion for something that would have taken me 1/4th the time regularly.

[red tiger]

Looks like they tried updating them.

lol

[naive crescent]

a real Art Vandelay kind of mod

[red tiger]

It's nice to see that the community has since made their own scripts / solutions since mine.

I feel like a dinosaur lol.

Mine dealt with the oldest format for models in PZ.

[dark wedge]

yup. i have spent literal hours moving Bip01_Prop{1,2} to the correct location for various animations I have done.

[naive crescent]

There was an issue I always ran into where id move something and it would fuck up the entire animation.

You spent so much time fighting against it.

[red tiger]

Is something like a new or alternative solution to I/O needed for Blender users here?

[dark wedge]

I would throw some money at someone who updated/made a blender plugin to properly import/export .x (with animations).

[red tiger]

Bet

If people ping me about doing it then yeah I can make it a high-priority item to work on.

I simply work on what's at the top of my stack of things to do.

[tame mulch]

I tried do this with assimp lib (game use this lib for import .x, .fbx, .txt models/anims) on python, but stopped because was some problems)

[white quest]

Is there a specific reason/error/txt modded items won't show up in-game? or could it be any error & does the debug ItemsList show modded items?

[sour island]

Item list shows all items- if your items aren't showing you may not have activated the mod on the save in particular or there's a typo in the script

[red tiger]

Can someone tell me the version of the .x file format used for PZ?

I'm going to write this down.

[white quest]

It's a singleplayer save, would I need to make a new save for the item to be on the list?

I've just enabled the mod in main menu

[sour island]

You have to go to the [load save] screen

Then select [more]

And edit the mods there

[red tiger]

It's possible that I could even debug the default .X import / exporters for Blender.

Just need to know the version of .x used and maybe a couple other things.

[white quest]

I see, thanks.

[sour island]

Trying to wrap up this update for EHE so I can tackle the community patch

Not enough free time with this "needs a job to live" stuff

[dark wedge]

xof 0303txt 0032
Is the header. So .x version 3.3, in text format.

[red tiger]

Fantasic. Storing that on my Discord.

[short geode]

There's a limit to WorldDictionary?

[thick karma]

Did anyone here already know you could make Say text bigger by using curly quotes???

[red tiger]

I wish that PZ supported true markdown.

# header
>>> Note: This is good syntax

Also, I wish that we could pass AngelCodeFont as an alternative to UIFont enum. That limits what can already be done in the internal API to Lua users immediately, also through ISUI/UIElement.lua...

Big sad.

Will be writing a custom font implementation sometime in the near future.

[sour island]

I think say accepts uifont. as a parameter

[thick karma]

Sorry, SayShout* and other Say variants that lack that parameter.

I had no idea I could make SayShout text larger through something so easy

Feels like witchcraft

Who would think to type curly quotes in a programming IDE?

[red tiger]

Let me use my custom font freely darnit! =P

[tame mulch]

Try do this by custom TextDrawObject.new()

[naive crescent]

That and a little bit a comic sans would really bring it some life

[drifting ore]

is there any inbuilt way for a recipie to specify any item that is holding water?

[red tiger]

I was doing all kinds of freaky stuff with text drawing.

With my UI shader API, text can become way freaky.

[thick karma]

What is this? Is this a mod? An upcoming feature?

[naive crescent]

The future

[tame mulch]

Code from my old mod (Project Humanoid)

[red tiger]

Could make text "glitch-out"

Oh and also stuff like this:

=P

[tame mulch]

This code also can draw moodles. I think possible create custom Say with custom font (if do font by images)

[red tiger]

I'd like to see UIClock and UIMoodles moved to Lua eventually. =(

[tame mulch]

I think write API for add custom moodles

[red tiger]

Moodles has been a difficult thing to adapt over the years.

[red tiger]

Yeah.

(Is in a candy store for API atm)

In my client core mod, I'm also adding drawCircle(angleStart, angleStop) for partial-circle and circle UI components.

Rounded edges to windows?

🤤

[naive crescent]

Do beveled edges Battle Star Galactica style

[tame mulch]

I think in future UI for game will be A LOT better 😉

[red tiger]

Oh heck yea.

You guys planning to add shaders in like I'm hacking it right now?

[tame mulch]

I can't say details what we want to do

[red tiger]

If shaders and caching render frames for UI elements are both implemented, UI will be epic.

[red tiger]

Haha I love the suspense on that actually.

I think a lot of time is wasted on the CPU and GPU for the current UI API though. Cache those draws as textures. Epic win if done.

Static window stuff etc.

[tame mulch]

22 from 335 params done 🥲

[red tiger]

Don't give up. I believe in you!! (Also I need this info lol)

[thick karma]

@sour island Should we pin this somewhere?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2929985581

[naive crescent]

Its a gold mine\

[red tiger]

I remember having to translate the LuaEvents wiki for all 200ish events to PipeWrench-Events plugin.

https://github.com/asledgehammer/PipeWrench-Events/blob/stable/PipeWrench-Events.d.ts#L270

I unfortunately know this pain haha

The effort is worth it though Aiteron

Remember that people will reference it for many years!

@dark wedge What's the current common Blender version people use right now in PZ? (for LTS for things like plugins)

[thick karma]

Gamepad support? 🥺

[autumn garnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fI5GExxb8k just for show, simple PNJ Quest

[red tiger]

I wonder if the .x format has the same matrix handedness that Blender has..

[tame mulch]

Models looks cool!

[autumn garnet]

Thanks ! i use the mod mirror to take big screen of models

[tame mulch]

I think you can try use assimp lib. Maybe you will have better luck with it)

[autumn garnet]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2901615211&searchtext=mirror

[red tiger]

My issue with the original import export scripts I wrote back in 2014/2015 were that Blender uses a different matrix handedness than the format so I solved it by copying JOML's code from Java and not using the matrix class provided with Blender.

[naive crescent]

Theres a zoom in mod that works really well

[autumn garnet]

yeah !
and it gives interest to the mirror, players can take beautiful pictures of their survivor they love

[ancient grail]

looks goood

[faint jewel]

if you set them as vegetation they'll move a little in the wind. also, i MIGHT recommend faking them a shadow?

[naive crescent]

One of my biggest issues last year was I found at 1440p I couldn't zoom in close enough. I toyed with idea of making a mod for it but ultimately didn't have the time to attempt it. So happy someone else did it when I returned this year.

[autumn garnet]

Thanks for the tips Skizot !

[naive crescent]

and because of the unconventional way you install it I can use it in MP servers

[faint jewel]

np 🙂

[tame mulch]

My mood now:

[wheat kraken]

is it possible to override item scripts via lua? in runtime, or game event?

like add menu option to edit weight capacity of an container

solved: #mod_development message

[drifting stump]

aiteron pretty sure you can say what the plans are at least vaguely

in a blog post its already been mentioned theyre moving to a ui middleware

[sour island]

If UI is getting looked at, Please break up functions as much as possible and return multiple things - it would help jumping in for modding

[drifting stump]

no specific one was mentioned but im guessing either gameface or noesis

[sour island]

i.e. after a UI does something return itself, and parts that can't be referenced

[dark wedge]

Hey, sorry. Currently am afk so my responses will be a bit delayed.
afaik though, there are no plugins or anything that are used for .x animations and such for Blender that currently work, and so the latest version is just recommended/used. The .blend files that are available making your own from scratch definitely works in the latest version, so no need to use a specific version currently.

[drifting stump]

most likely modding for uis will become xml docs to generate the interface

with lua callbacks for logic

[red tiger]

It's a good idea to select a LTS version for software such as Blender.

I might pick one and then say I'm writing for that version for a time.

[dark wedge]

3.3 is currently LTS, which I use right now. would agree to aim for an LTS version if you made a plugin of course, and would personally recommend/request that version.

[sour island]

what's a middleware? in the last blog?

[red tiger]

I'll simply use 3.3 and then accept it as the current standard version for the PZ modding community at large.

If anyone asks, simply point them to this version. =)

[dark wedge]

Sounds good to me. 3.3 is LTS until next year, and I think its also the version you get if you grab it from Steam.

[red tiger]

(Initiates roundtable of modelers)

[red tiger]

I still grab from blender.org. <3

I used to have blender bumper stickers on my car and a keychain loop.

[dark wedge]

Oh, same. I got one of those shirts when they did the big UI re-factor a few years back. I've gained the "Obese" trait since then, unfortunately, so it no longer fits. hahaa

[red tiger]

... When you know you've played PZ too much.

They still haven't patched the weight system for IRL's MP server.

BTW reminds me of the convo I've had several times of how human models should flex for height, weight and other factors.. to diversify the zed crowd.

(Prays that B42 has this feature in secret)

One can dream.

[hot patrol]

I dream of this to

I actually just mentioned the idea just now in another chat

[modern dirge]

any one have experience with setting fog colors?

[drifting ore]

better to just ask the question you want to ask

[ancient grail]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Wf08bl7Cq2jRyKDJPsWI_Tm8Iiq4LgxvIyL4e2xSDmU/edit#gid=162969203

might be helpful.. i hope

[tame mulch]

Can you send me this image?

[ancient grail]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9799-key-code-reference/

[red tiger]

mmmm LWJGL keyboard.

[ancient grail]

here

[modern dirge]

i am setting fog colours using setAdminValue for color_new_fog however only the red value is changed ingame not sure if im missing something

[red tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

Light theme in IDE

[modern dirge]

lol notepad++

[ancient grail]

Theres a dark theme for note++

[ancient grail]

Also the 2 threads contains most resources. Of atleast what i could gather that is

U might not have notice it yet

[tame mulch]

❤️

53 from 300+ params done

[ancient grail]

[naive crescent]

Getting back into coding this year I was rocking Notepad++ for a good while until I stopped being lazy and reinstalled VS

But that non dark mode notepad++ is gross looking

[modern dirge]

usually vscode is my go to

[red tiger]

VSCode is my choice rn.

Used to use Sublime Text because of the dark theme it has by default.

[tame mulch]

5k symbols already in guide (-_-)