mod_development

[ancient grail]

I wish someone would make timeaction tools
And serverclient tools
That modders would require to make life easier

[red tiger]

Make it module.

[sour island]

hmm

I can inspect a number

[chilly ledge]

Yeah, I tried to spawn bandages on zombies but I can't seem to find a way to listen for zombie spawning events. If I can listen to spawn events then getting to work properly would be easy. In the meantime I'm just using the method that scalyZeds did(Overriding underwear and using it to spawn the bandage/costumes)

[red tiger]

Oh and for anyone interested, If I complete my Lua transpiler project, it'll be analytical.

[nova socket]

Just admit you are instance of ChatGPT ok?

[red tiger]

I'm planning it out in a markdown.

[red tiger]

RIP my humanity

[sour island]

It's ok brother

[chilly ledge]

IF anyone knows how to listen to zombie spawn events and run LUA on the spawned zombies (Once only when they spawn, not every time you load that zombie) that would be a massive help >.>

[bronze yoke]

it's not possible

[nova socket]

So sandbox vars can accept any types, even bytes?

[bronze yoke]

not in the way you describe i mean, there literally just isn't a hook or event for it

the best you can do is to just indiscriminately grab zombies and test that you haven't already operated on them

[ancient grail]

Actualy if you have a zombie counter then it might do the trick but only limited to your vicinity not the whole world if there are other players

[chilly ledge]

Why doesn't zomboid have a lua hook for OnZombieCreated

Lol

Maybe it's for perf reasons to prevent missuse? But idk, I feel like trying to hack your way around it would just be worse perf wise

[sour island]

Zombie's also can't save modData for performance concerns

You can still sue their modData for per session stuff tho

[quasi geode]

Its currently under debate. might make a appearance later.

[nova socket]

pogs

[sour island]

so you can hook into their OnZombieUpdate - and set a boolean to true for 'onCreate'

[ancient grail]

Ow hi fenris

[chilly ledge]

Gotcha. In my experience (I work in games too :P) I find that trying to lock down scripting just results in "Creative" solutions by scripters and end up costing more perf than locking down the functionality saves

[quasi geode]

sure. people use hacks to get around limitations

[chilly ledge]

alternatively for my usecase having a way to specify custom item defines/clothing defines to add to all outfits via script would solve my problem without require a onspawn event

[sick umbra]

How did you open that inspection window? not finding here...

[chilly ledge]

It could be more performant to make the event per zombie group instead of per zombie and leave it to the user to iterate through them, that way you save on LUA Interop performance (Not sure how expensive LUA-Java interop is)

[sour island]

I made it

[red tiger]

My initial thoughts on the transpiler: https://github.com/asledgehammer/PipeWrench-Electron-App/blob/main/LuaToTypeScript.md

[sour island]

i lol'd

[ancient grail]

Wow

Chase meeeee

[chilly ledge]

Is java modding a thing? Or is it mainly constrained to just lua scripting? (sorry for all the questions 😅 )

[red tiger]

You can mod the Java. Just know you cannot upload it to the workshop.

[ancient grail]

If you are jab then yes

[sour island]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2909488957
https://github.com/Project-Zomboid-Community-Modding/pz-community-modding
current version on github

[red tiger]

Been Java modding here since 2014.

[sour island]

inspect tool is on public release atm too - im just updating it to include reference linking

[chilly ledge]

Security concerns from valve or just not supported by zomboid?

[red tiger]

Both. TIS isn't against it unless you uhhh yeah do silly shit.

Lua modding is safe.

[ancient grail]

Debugger Not yet on steam?

[chilly ledge]

Wierd, Arma Mods are allowed to have C++ DLLs on the workshop

[red tiger]

Java is gray-zone.

[sick umbra]

cool, thanks!

[sour island]

it's on steam

I linked it

Only accessible in -debug mode

[ancient grail]

Thats github

Ow yeah earlier nvm

[sour island]

2 links

[ancient grail]

I guees i should sleep

Lol

[chilly ledge]

I feel like if TIS implemented a packaging/signing system that would fix the security concerns (Similar to what Bohemia does)

[ancient grail]

[red tiger]

Please don't.

lol

I like the ability to mod my Java.

[chilly ledge]

You'd still have it, you'd just sign your mod when you upload it

Although I'd imagine that it would probably be too much work for such a niche part of the modding scene

Does zomboid even have a mod/patch loader for java?

[red tiger]

I wrote some of my own but no.

[quasi geode]

several lol

[red tiger]

Oh?

[chilly ledge]

Huh

It could be neat to have something similar to Forge as a modding API

[red tiger]

I wouldn't know about em.

[quasi geode]

theres multiple java mod loaders

[nova socket]

how exactly do you get who has what permissions via lua?

admin, observers etc

[red tiger]

Of course I wouldn't know about other patchers.. I write my own stuff. xD

[chilly ledge]

Whats the perf cost of LUA scripts vs native java? Is it as bad as say C++ vs LUA?

[bronze yoke]

IsoPlayer:getAccessLevel() or IsoPlayer:isAccessLevel(string level)

[nova socket]

cheers

[red tiger]

Kahlua is what is used to emulate Lua. It runs in Java. It has to transform Java <-> Lua for objects when executing pcalls.

[quasi geode]

I havent done any serious profiling, but the native java should be faster by far, considering we use kahlua

[red tiger]

It's a little hit but it runs in a VM.

[chilly ledge]

I should look into java modding for zomboid 😛 Seems like it could be fun

[red tiger]

Kahlua also uses older invocation / reflection practices which means it runs a little slow.

[chilly ledge]

oof

[red tiger]

Modding in PZ with Kotlin is fun too.

[chilly ledge]

ewww Kotlin 😛

[nova socket]

TypeScript just peeks around corner and giggles

[chilly ledge]

Tbh Java is kinda icky too IMO but It's magic lol

[chilly ledge]

I use TS at work for gamescripting

[red tiger]

Yeah you can Typescript mod if you want.

[willow estuary]

I wouldn't dare do some of the stuff I do using Kahlua in that regard 😄

[red tiger]

I made PipeWrench so people can mod in TS.

You know that TIS could upgrade Kahlua if it were a priority.

I did this for my servers back in the day.

Upgraded the under-the-hood code to make it slightly faster.

[chilly ledge]

Convert zomboid to C#

[nova socket]

oh noes not C# please

[chilly ledge]

hehehehe

.net 7 is great

[quasi geode]

/me converts it to perl instead

[chilly ledge]

RUST time

[nova socket]

Might be I never looked back when I ran away from it

[sick umbra]

wanted to ask something, I looked at the game files and in the media/scripts folder there were some sounds (attributed to items) that I didn't find in the media/sounds folder, does anyone know where are they?

[nova socket]

In native files probably

[chilly ledge]

Tbh old .net is pretty ass, modern dotnet is actually close to C/C++ levels of perf which is pretty nutty. Just don't use LINQ or it will set fire to an orphanage

[sour island]

Anyone know how I can get the class name for the userdatas?

field:getType() errors

[nova socket]

Sounds script can point to any media from original game too so.

[red tiger]

This game would run insanely faster if:

1. Medium PRNG is provided alongside high-quality PRNG
2. The map format & tile coordinate system were to be rewritten in factors of 2 using bitwise calculations from chunk-coordinate to world-coordinate
3. Less files for the map format.

=)

Java is good enough to run "The Sims 1". =)

[chilly ledge]

The game would run faster if it was ECS

[sour island]

I have no idea what I'm looking at

[chilly ledge]

Multiple threads go vrrrrrrr

[red tiger]

Oh and thanks to a friend's research:
4) If RakNet were to use multi-threading

[chilly ledge]

How many zombies do you want:
ECS: Yes

[jaunty marten]

the game would run faster if just sit in main menu

[chilly ledge]

You can support ABSURD amounts of active agents using ECS

[sick umbra]

oh, sorry for the dumb question, they probably were in the .bank files, I didn't know what they were until I used 2 seconds searching in google...

[nova socket]

Yeah its pretty simple rule - if you don't see some media in mods, look for media in base game dir.

[chilly ledge]

Although I'm pretty sure you can't implement the design pattern in java due to object shenanigan's and lack of access to low level memory (For cache optimization shenanigan's ) (L1 Cache go BRRRRRR)

[nova socket]

Same goes for required lua, you can require anything from base game dir lua folder

[red tiger]

require modules pls

Pls use Lua modules modders..

Please.

[chilly ledge]

lol

[red tiger]

Can't stress it enough.

[nova socket]

Actually a good point

[quasi geode]

I'd set all the base game lua to use actual module format, but i'm not allowed to break things 😦

[red tiger]

I'll break things. :D

Haha

I get that you guys have a process / plan.

[nova socket]

that would break every mod existing that is bigger than 1 lua function

[red tiger]

I'm also considering straight-up converting your entire Lua codebase to Typescript.

It'll be modules then..

[quasi geode]

pretty much. why i cant do it lol

[red tiger]

Why can't you use a deprecation or API version?

I'd love to see revisions.

I know it sounds way easier to implement than it actually is. =(

[quasi geode]

that be nice, but setup work.

also, not part of my task list atm (still the newbie on the team)

[red tiger]

90% of my time spent modding PZ is working on this exact issue / category.

[sick umbra]

apparently for me to open the .bank files I need to have FMOD Studio, which is paid, F... though, I think I have no reason for opening them

[red tiger]

Sooo that's why I'm so interested in what'll happen there. xD

Thanks for responding to the questions.

One more thing before I run away: Mods having a internal form of versioning for files would be epic. Servers could use the same workshop items and specify a version to use.

Would solve most of the problems with uploading workshop content and servers.

[nova socket]

Does workshop even have versioning of files?

[red tiger]

No. TIS would need to make the folder-structure support it.

[nova socket]

That means you somehow will have stream older version from server to client

[quasi geode]

Personally I'd like to see mod versioning, but I think to be effective the server would have to transfer mods to the clients, which could be problematic for some larger mod or busy / low bandwidth servers

[red tiger]

mod_root/
   versions/
     a_version/
        media/ ..
     another_version/
        media/ ..
mod.info
..

[red tiger]

Code can be sent using loadstring() and Client/Server commands.

[nova socket]

zstd might save the day

[red tiger]

I have a working case of this as a template.

[nova socket]

zstd can compress non-blobs up to 90%

[quasi geode]

code isnt the issue, text is relatively low bandwidth. I'm thinking more models & textures

[nova socket]

oh, well yeah.

[red tiger]

Okay then build a shared folder for all versions that can be used as a fallback folder.

[quasi geode]

where youve got mods that are 1gb+ in size, or 15 different vehicle mods installed etc

[red tiger]

lookup:

1. Specific version folder
2. Shared folder
3. PZ media install folder

[nova socket]

You could split it into parts and apply patches depending on what was changed.

but thats a bit complicated.

[red tiger]

My suggestion may not be the optimal one however I feel like it could serve as a vehicle for an eventual solution to mod version controls.

[quasi geode]

keeping previous versions in the mod folder only really solves half the issue though (mainly, duplicate conflicting workshop items, reuploads etc), where transfering directly from the server would fix.

[red tiger]

Glad I can pass those long-time thoughts to someone at TIS.

[red tiger]

Well the funny thing is this is totally doable already.

[nova socket]

Man I was surprised to have direct answers on topics from devs

[quasi geode]

but ya lots to consider with it though. i've put some thought into it but its really not my area

[nova socket]

You don't see that every day now

[drifting ore]

yea 10/10 here

[quasi geode]

ah well...i'm a new dev for TIS, and been a modder for years, so this channel still kinda my home 😅

[weak sierra]

very much hope you take some of the energy about certain problems here over to there

[red tiger]

Let me know if you want a study case / experiment to play with that allows for server-specific content being sent to and ran by clients.

[weak sierra]

also walkie talkie voip been broken since november pls help

[nova socket]

I'll actually try compressing some mods with zstd and see how it goes

[quasi geode]

lol i did note that convo the other day, but with b41 out of the way i wouldnt expect any sort of fix anytime soon

[weak sierra]

i reported it two patches before they closed that..

they spent that time telling me it wasn't a problem :(

but yeah..

just wish it had a setting like the other anti-cheat stuff.

[red tiger]

If the patch is simple I'll try to make one in the meantime.

[weak sierra]

yeah that's the one thing im 100% willin to javamod for lol

absolutely leap at it

[red tiger]

Already reverse-engineered and deobfuscated var names for some parts of Radio code to investigate that.

[weak sierra]

it's so important to my users

they'll sing your name like an ancient hero

<_<

[red tiger]

Lol

It's definitely tied to user permissions from the symptoms so that removes a lot of possibilities as to what actually breaks it.

[weak sierra]

yeah

im kinda surprised the thing you did do didn't fix it tbh

[red tiger]

Just needs more looking into.

Maybe the player simply needs all player's data sent to their client on login.

[weak sierra]

could compare a decompile of an old build to the current

and just like..

copypasta

<_<

[red tiger]

Funny you say that.

I do have older builds on my storage.

[weak sierra]

hunting it down should be easier if u poke at that

i kinda wish i didnt update my decompile lol

[red tiger]

Yeah. Just don't want to put too much time into the patch when I have active projects.

[weak sierra]

i wish i had money to give or something, i do not :P

[red tiger]

No worries. It's fun to have 100000 projects.

[weak sierra]

overwhelms me a bit

heh

i have lists upon lists upon lists

but im tryna raise a 3yo

so

[red tiger]

Constantly tearing apart this game for fun.

[weak sierra]

anyway it's time for me to write the sandbox fix finally, have time tonight to actually code it

[red tiger]

I'm mapping out a new Lua transpiler ATM for future work.

Nice.

Going to try to interpret Lua code as ES5 JavaScript and transpile it to TypeScript.

It'll need to resolve var assignments from a collection of Lua code so I can see what types are inferred.

A useful tool: https://www.planttext.com/

This is going to be fun.

If anyone in here likes to plan out their projects, I'd recommend getting PlantUML installed on your VSCode install.

The link above also works as a website portal for PlantUML.

[weak sierra]

the plan

lol

i do more extensive notes for big projects but always just notepad-esque stuff.

i am an agent of chaos

[red tiger]

PlantUML helps visualize your plans.

Also that UI lol

[weak sierra]

linux w/ CDE theme, win9x style taskbar/etc..

xD

[young edge]

putting it a bit mildly there

[weak sierra]

party like it's 1999

[young edge]

I refer to the above

[weak sierra]

lol

i go back and forth between modern and retro when i get nostalgic

haha

[young edge]

[weak sierra]

whatever works for someone to keep organized tho eh

bunch of windows open isn't killin me so whatev

[young edge]

suuuuure

[weak sierra]

idk i've released like 30 mods

🤷‍♀️

[red tiger]

For me it's like 100 projects = 5 releases

[weak sierra]

yours are on average of greater scope than mine, to be fair

but yeah i try to finish what i do

used to not

[red tiger]

Nah. It's simply a failure to plan / organize.

(me)

If I had the time I did like last year, I'd be working on 3 concurrent projects. =)

[weak sierra]

if i start more than one, one of them will sit on hold lol

[red tiger]

I go back and forth to keep things from getting stale.

If I get stuck on one I can always flop over to another project.

I avoid burnouts this way.

[weak sierra]

yeah with how big your projects seem to be that makes sense

mine are usually within "i can grind through this in a week or two" (if i have the time, anyway) territory

wrote most of the sandbox sync stuff, tired tho, i think i'll finish tomorrow

will play game for the rest of tonight nodnod

[red tiger]

=)

Hope my big projects helps make your projects smaller in time invested in figuring things out.

That's when I know that not only is my time worth it, but that it is successful.

[drifting ore]

is getLuaTest what i'd use to set a certain script parameter via a lua script?

for recipe specifically

trying to use sandboxvar int for item amount for recipe then i can wrap this up and release a good update for lightswitch electrician

[vast nacelle]

How do I get the parent object of a backpack's ItemContainer (inventory)?
I want to access the modData of whatever object is currently holding an item.
If its a world object, like a cabinet or something, I can do

local objectThatHasTheContainer = containerHoldingTheItem:getParent()
local modData = objectThatHasTheContainer:getModData()```
However, when that item is in a backpack, `getParent()` just returns nil.
Answer: Apparently `getContainingItem()` is used to get the backpack object from the backpack inventory....
Why doesn't getParent() handle both cases?

[tawdry moss]

zombies i spawn using addZombiesInOutfit() despawn almost instantly and dont chase the player. Debug log says "removing stale zombie". How do I fix this?

[vast nacelle]

Is this in an MP setting? You are probably spawning them on the Client. You should be spawning them on the Server.

[tawdry moss]

the file is loaded on server though

should it be shared?

[vast nacelle]

The Client will load files in both the Client and Server folder.
Under what circumstances are you calling addZombiesInOutfit()?
Are you "protecting" it from be called by Clients?
e.g.

--- code to spawn zombies
end```

[dark wedge]

If the container is on a character, you can do: container:getCharacter()
Or are you trying to get the moddata for a bag that has been placed in the world?

oh, i'm behind. ha.

[vast nacelle]

Nah. I added the edit like a millisecond after you posted

[tawdry moss]

the lua file to spawn the zombies is under the "server" subfolder in the lua folder

[vast nacelle]

Yes, but like I said, that doesn't matter as much as you think it would. 🤷‍♂️
Clients will load and run lua files in all folders. Shared, Client, and Server.

[tawdry moss]

damn

[vast nacelle]

So you need to add something to prevent Clients from calling code they shouldn't even if its in the Server folder.

[tawdry moss]

this specific code is set to run when the player says a certain phrase in chat, and sometimes it spawns them properly and sometimes it doesn't. I'm just confused as to why.

[vast nacelle]

Because the Server will normally "reject" zombies added by a Client.
You'll need to learn how to do Server-Client Communication.
A player says something > Their client sends a command to the server
Server receives the command > Server spawns the zombies

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2735092774&searchtext=server

[tawdry moss]

reading through this, and the example lines dont make much sense to me. sendClientCommand(string, string, KahluaTable) --> The event is triggered by the player source. This doesn't tell me what it wants for the strings or the table, just that it wants them. Do i put the function names? triggers?

[vast nacelle]

The intended use is
1st String - A module name (like your mod's name or something)
2nd String - A command name (the specific thing you want to occur)
KahluaTable - The arguments/data you want to pass to the server. Can be nil

So on the other side, you'd first use the Module string to check if the incoming ClientCommand is for you and then use the Command plus Arguments to call the specific function you want.

[tawdry moss]

if i'm understanding this, first string is basically an ID and the second string is a function name, with the table being the parameters for said function?

[vast nacelle]

Yes. You need to create a function that listens for the command and puts it together and calls it correctly.

[bronze yoke]

that's how people use them, literally speaking they are just two strings that get passed from end to end

[sour island]

alrighty, I'm beat

gn all

[tawdry moss]

Imma sleep and try again when I get home from school

[viral spire]

I've convinced myself we're never getting a TLOU overhaul mod for a very, very long time.

[jaunty marten]

decided to continue work on water pipes mod that I dropped a few month ago and found this. mb in that time I didn't know premade func for it so my question is in pz really no shortcut for this shit 🥴 ? wtf.. tried to find smth on wiki or in source but nothing

[red tiger]

Working on breaking down code blocks now...

[red tiger]

Going to pause here for tonight.

[ancient grail]

About this i noticed on my reference the actual arg wasnt even used
Just the command and module

[stable flame]

any clue why this doesn't actually calculate the weight properly? All i'm getting is one piece of scrap, although the input item has a weight of 3

--variable scrap amount
function Recipe.OnCreate.RecycleToScrapMetal(items, result, player)
    local scrapQuantity = 0

    for _, item in ipairs(items) do
        scrapQuantity = scrapQuantity + (item:getRealWeight() * 2)
    end

    player:getInventory():AddItem("Base.ScrapMetal", scrapQuantity)
end

[red tiger]

@stable flame

You can syntax highlight posted code.

Wait, are you confusing item weight with quantity?

Thinking that real weight is how heavy the item is and that AddItem's 2nd param might be an integer quantity.

Just a hunch.

[stable flame]

hmm, was looking to transform the item weight into a quantity

aka its weight in scrap

[red tiger]

public boolean AddItem(String type, float useDelta)

[jaunty marten]

:getRealWeight at least exists? I can't even find it in pz source lul

[bronze yoke]

there's a separate method for adding multiple items at once

[red tiger]

https://projectzomboid.com/modding/zombie/inventory/ItemContainer.html

[stable flame]

remember reading that getWeight() was deprecated and to use getRealWeight

[pulsar heath]

dont you guys sleep?

i wake up at 7am and you guys are still going strong 😄

[jaunty marten]

strange then

🥴

[pulsar heath]

and i've finally solved my problem in mp

local ZedList = player:getCell():getZombieList()
for i=0, ZedList:size()-1 do
        local zombie = ZedList:get(i);
         print(zombie:
getOnlineID())
   local x,y,z = player:getX(), player:getY() , player:getZ();
    zombie:pathToLocationF(x, y ,z)
   end```

[pulsar heath]

now just need to add a Custom tag when spawning the zombies and only call those

[red tiger]

I have this nasty habit of drilling on something and planning it well into the night.

(Read up)

[pulsar heath]

oh fenris was around 😄

[jaunty marten]

I saw but why :getRealWeight() doesn't declared as method

[pulsar heath]

@red tiger youre nuts... all that work... jesus

[red tiger]

Had to put the thought somewhere..

Planning phase for a new Lua transpiler.

[pulsar heath]

well as long as it was productive, its a good thing 🙂

[red tiger]

I have a basic transpiler right now.. but I don't like it. It only exports definitions of arbitrary types.

The goal of this one is to be analytical and resolve types by combing code.

[bronze yoke]

this deprecation notice is on ItemContainer, not InventoryItem?

[pulsar heath]

hmmm i hiave a big problem... when i solve the problem i lose interest in finishing the simple parts of the solution...

need to create a table with the zombies spawned

and call those zombies only...

ill just grab the id and use that

easy enough i guess

hmmm i wonder
setWalkType(String string)

[red tiger]

Imagine graphing a relationship tree of Lua classes for ISUI..

Hahaha

[pulsar heath]

if i can make a zombie a runner in code

[red tiger]

Oh God I really need to stop asking questions..

[pulsar heath]

thats more asking me to have a nightmare...

ISUI... i hate it so much

[red tiger]

ISUI is big enough to need guardrails and type safety.

[pulsar heath]

tbh everything exposed to modding should have guardrails and type safety

[red tiger]

D:

Is that supporting my thought of migrating Lua to Typescript?

[pulsar heath]

50/50 😄

[red tiger]

Good enough.

I'll let you decide on how to round that value.

[pulsar heath]

well i made a zombie run and my game just froze 😄

ill think about it later... breakfast time

[stable flame]

managed to crash the game now 😄

function Recipe.OnCreate.RecycleToScrapMetal(items, result, player)
    local scrapQuantity = 0
    for _, item in pairs(items) do
        scrapQuantity = scrapQuantity + math.floor(item:getWeight() * 2)
    end
    player:getInventory():AddItem("Base.Scrap Metal", scrapQuantity)
end

it doesn't like the math

[pulsar heath]

player:getInventory():AddItem("Base.Scrap Metal", scrapQuantity)

a white space in the item name?

[stable flame]

opps, missed it

[pulsar heath]

good to see im not the only one failing due to typos

😄

[red tiger]

Starting to feel tired.

[pulsar heath]

go rest

[red tiger]

Doing IRL work work ATM.

[pulsar heath]

ill only have to worry about IRL work next month

[red tiger]

lucky.

I'd steal your free time if I could.

[pulsar heath]

yeah... until the point that its 7 days a week with no days off till november 😄

[red tiger]

Sleeping is unproductive.

Body needs it yeah.. I don't want it.

[pulsar heath]

sometimes its not the body but the brain that needs it more...

was stuck b4 sleep... i wake up and have the solution in my head

so i can say at least this time sleeping was productive 😄

[red tiger]

I can be a code zombie.

I use that time to do grunt work.

[pulsar heath]

still, not good for your health

[red tiger]

Not wrong.

[pulsar heath]

but i know how it is...

[red tiger]

Oh well

[pulsar heath]

i suffer from the same problem

even if i try to sleep and i have something thats bothering me that i want to find a solution

it will be more trying to sleep and coding in my head

than actually sleeping... so yeah... zombie mode and code away

[red tiger]

Ever dreamed in code?

[pulsar heath]

sometimes yeah

[red tiger]

Ever remember it? Write it down?

[pulsar heath]

when i was making my twitch api lib... that happened a lot

usually i wake up and just grab the laptop sitting next to me 😄

[red tiger]

I've solved problems in my sleep. Fucking crazy stuff.

[pulsar heath]

and type it away

[stable flame]

Best ideas come when not actively thinking about them, aka while trying to sleep or on the can

[red tiger]

There's thinking about the problem and there's actually following through with logic and literally coding it out in your sleep.

The latter one is terrifying.

[pulsar heath]

toilet time is spent solving another problems... 😄

like actually thinking about my real work

and i have to get things ready... only 1 month to go and i've done nothing to setup the new work season

[red tiger]

=/

[stable flame]

ugh a simple idea turning into a full hour of trial and error 🧨 , such is the modding life

[drifting ore]

lol

took me 3 days of messing around to figure out these damn light switches

then again i dont know shiat

speaking of which. what am i doing wrong here?

            local context = ISWorldObjectContextMenu.createMenu(player, worldobjects, x, y)
            context:setVisible(false)

it's working but it's throwing an error also

java.lang.RuntimeException: __add not defined for operands in get

im trying to just remove any context menu from when you are using the lightswitch

the error hits on the top line

[crystal pollen]

Does anyone know how to get items to spawn on top of beds? I didn't see it in the distribution or ProceduralDistributions lua files. I noticed some mods before do it without having to edit the map itself.

[vast nacelle]

So Albion pointed it out earlier but you might have missed it.
AddItem(...) will only ever add a single item
You need AddItems(...) for your scrapQuantity to have any purpose.

[stable flame]

Had no idea that was a thing 😐

thought the quantity after is applied if specified

thank you for the tips

[jaunty marten]

mb x or y is nil

[drifting ore]

actually you right

i guess wth... do i just not use it?

lol confusing for me

[jaunty marten]

why x is a table xp

[stable flame]

using AddItemS actually returns nothing for me

wondering if i should replace for _, item in ipairs(items) with something like item:getType() and specify a list

[vast nacelle]

Oh, yeah. That's a Java Arraylist that gets fed into the OnCreate call.
pairs and ipairs work on Lua Tables.
Need something like

    local item = items:get(i);
    if item:IsWeapon() then
        condition = item:getCondition();
        break;
    end
end```

[drifting ore]

can i just use something like ISWorldObjectContextMenu.removeToolTip() joke lol it's easy to add or replace but i can not figure out how to remove

[jaunty marten]

what r u even trying to do?

[drifting ore]

remove right click context from only on that sprite lol

so nothing happens when you right click it

[jaunty marten]

then just do :setVisible(false) on parent context menu

why r u trying to create new one

[drifting ore]

i tried all different ways lol i couldnt find a good enough example to figure it out

derp brain i guess

[jaunty marten]

crude example but I think u'll get the idea

local function a(context)
  context:setVisible(false)
end
onfillworldcontextmenu.add(a)

[dark wedge]

Blech. Is there a consistent way to do damage to everything? Seems different objects have different functions to take damage, which seems wrong (if true, that's annoying). IsoObject and IsoMovingObject both have Hit, but this seems to be just part of the class definition and does nothing; only some objects define this (like IsoZombie). Other stuff like IsoObjects have just Damage(float) that I can call, and vehicles has hitVehicle(character, weapon)
Everything has the WeaponHit(weapon, character) function, but this only does the overwhelmingly helpful java code of:

}```

[drifting ore]

im using that. i have no idea what the parent menu is though.

[jaunty marten]

try this one

local function onFillWorldObjectContextMenu(player, context, worldobjects)
  context:setVisible(false)
end
Events.OnFillWorldObjectContextMenu.Add(onFillWorldObjectContextMenu)

[drifting ore]

here is what i'm using atm so it's not so hard to understand my usage

local spriteList = {"lighting_indoor_01_0", "lighting_indoor_01_1", "lighting_indoor_01_2", "lighting_indoor_01_3", "lighting_indoor_01_4", "lighting_indoor_01_5", "lighting_indoor_01_6", "lighting_indoor_01_7"}
local getSprite = getSprite
local ISWorldObjectContextMenu = ISWorldObjectContextMenu
local function hideBulb(player, worldobjects)
    for i, spriteName in ipairs(spriteList) do
        local sprite = getSprite(spriteName)
        local prop = sprite:getProperties()
        if not sprite then return end
        if prop:Val("CustomName") == "Switch" then
            local context = ISWorldObjectContextMenu.removetoolTip(player, worldobjects)
            context:setVisible(false)
        end
    end
end
Events.OnFillWorldObjectContextMenu.Add(hideBulb)

also i'm sorry for burying your post @dark wedge 😦

[jaunty marten]

local spriteList = {"lighting_indoor_01_0", "lighting_indoor_01_1", "lighting_indoor_01_2", "lighting_indoor_01_3", "lighting_indoor_01_4", "lighting_indoor_01_5", "lighting_indoor_01_6", "lighting_indoor_01_7"}
local getSprite = getSprite
local ISWorldObjectContextMenu = ISWorldObjectContextMenu
local function hideBulb(player, context, worldobjects)
    for i, spriteName in ipairs(spriteList) do
        local sprite = getSprite(spriteName)
        local prop = sprite:getProperties()
        if not sprite then return end
        if prop:Val("CustomName") == "Switch" then
            context:setVisible(false)
        end
    end
end
Events.OnFillWorldObjectContextMenu.Add(hideBulb)

u missed context arg

[drifting ore]

thats it?

i was defining it on the line above so it didn't matter, but thats it?

[jaunty marten]

hideBulb(player, worldobjects) -- ur code
hideBulb(player, context, worldobjects) -- should be this

[drifting ore]

i think i did that and no luck ill try again

[jaunty marten]

u need to hide context menu fully, right?

[drifting ore]

yes

i dont even need the other args then right?

not called anywhere

[jaunty marten]

wdym?

[drifting ore]

player and worldobjects

[dark wedge]

no worries! i have a feeling the answer is "no" and just have to brute force it using the different ways. ha

[jaunty marten]

if u don't use them then nope

but code still looks strange xp

[drifting ore]

lol

so far that seems to be my thing 😄

[jaunty marten]

idk how it should work

cos u always get hided context menu

u didn't use worldobjects arg

[drifting ore]

yea or player. i only did when i was defining context earlier

since we removed. no use

ngl sometimes i just dont even get this lol

i normally learn best this way but i'm struggling lol and thank you also

local spriteList = {"lighting_indoor_01_0", "lighting_indoor_01_1", "lighting_indoor_01_2", "lighting_indoor_01_3", "lighting_indoor_01_4", "lighting_indoor_01_5", "lighting_indoor_01_6", "lighting_indoor_01_7"}
local getSprite = getSprite
local function hideBulb(context)
    for i, spriteName in ipairs(spriteList) do
        local sprite = getSprite(spriteName)
        local prop = sprite:getProperties()
        if not sprite then return end
        if prop:Val("CustomName") == "Switch" then
            context:setVisible(false)
        end
    end
end
Events.OnFillWorldObjectContextMenu.Add(hideBulb)

`function: hideBulb -- file: testcontext.lua line # 9 | MOD: Lightswitch Electrician
Callframe at: se.krka.kahlua.integration.expose.MultiLuaJavaInvoker@d41fe7be
java.lang.RuntimeException: Object tried to call nil in hideBulb

i'm def not doing this right it feels

i have to be close

[jaunty marten]

don't remove player arg

[drifting ore]

even if it's not used?

[jaunty marten]

now context arg is a player

[drifting ore]

oh

i see so you can call it to be nil?

or it just always is 0

is the first always player?

[jaunty marten]

yea

[drifting ore]

ah

okay i got it

no error but no work

gonna try a couple things here now

i think i am good for now lol thank you again.

[dark wedge]

nothing is safe anymore. 🙂

[pulsar heath]

😄

well scrap one more solution

time for try number 73 😄

[pulsar heath]

well this kinda works

                local ZedList = player:getCell():getZombieList()
local x,y,z = player:getX(), player:getY() , player:getZ();

local zedcount = 0
for i=0, ZedList:size()-1 do
    local zombie = ZedList:get(i);
if zombie then
zedcount = zedcount +1
if zedcount < 10 then
   zombie:pathToLocationF(x, y ,z);
end
end
end
player:Say(tostring(zedcount))```

nop...

[ancient grail]

guys can someone help me with this one pls

if getActivatedMods():contains("FunctionalChainsaw") then 
require "Ftool_Actions"
end

if im making another mod thats named FunctionalChainsaw2
then woulding this get activated thing detect itself??

[vast nacelle]

It should not return true because of "FunctionalChainsaw2".
contains should only be looking for exact matches, not partial matches.

[ancient grail]

Nice thank you.
I really thought it was a partial thing

Thnx

Im really confused right now like how do i create another version and prevent them from conflicting

[jaunty marten]

FunctionalChainsaw2?

[ancient grail]

One of my problem is the way i structure the first one

[ancient grail]

Ye about to make it

@tacit plover and i are almost done

[jaunty marten]

just remake or new features?

[pulsar heath]

finally... some results

local ZedList = player:getCell():getZombieList()
local TWESpawnedZeds = 4
local zedcount = 0
local totalzeds = ZedList:size()-1
player:Say("Total zeds: " .. tostring(totalzeds))
for i=0, ZedList:size()-1 do
 local zombie = ZedList:get(i);
if zombie then
zedcount = zedcount +1
if zedcount < TWESpawnedZeds then
player:Say("Sending zed: " .. tostring(zedcount))
zombie:pathToLocationF(player:getX(),player:getY() ,0);
end
end
end```

[ancient grail]

Not really new feature
Ammm the thing im trying is that if the first version is installed then overwrite it

[jaunty marten]

why 0 instead player:getZ()?

[pulsar heath]

because im lazy

and on the 0 z with the char

😄

[ancient grail]

But then i realized my functions for the first one has 1k gas this one has 600

[jaunty marten]

xp

[ancient grail]

Whatver ill nake the github for now public

[pulsar heath]

well its working, if the value is set to 4 it will send 3 because of the for

the if i mean

while is <

missing a =

or just move the increment to be done after sending the zombie

either way works i guess

[ancient grail]

https://github.com/Glytch3r/FunctionalChainsaw2

@jaunty marten

[ancient grail]

Congrats bro

[pulsar heath]

not to apply this to the mod

without breaking the mod or the game 😄

[ancient grail]

Is that from chucks code

[pulsar heath]

what?

[ancient grail]

The say ah nvm so its not. Hehe cuz its similar

[pulsar heath]

im still a traitor since im using AUD and not chuck's tool 😄

but you remember why right?

i wonder if he already fixed it

[ancient grail]

#mod_development message

Ithought its using this one

[pulsar heath]

and done

    local ZedList = player:getCell():getZombieList()
    local zedcount = 0
    local totalzeds = ZedList:size()-1
        for i=0, ZedList:size()-1 do
            local zombie = ZedList:get(i);
                if zombie then
                    zedcount = zedcount +1
                    if zedcount <=  zedQ then
                        zombie:pathToLocationF(player:getX(),player:getY() ,0);
                    end
                end
        end
end

oops

not done

[ancient grail]

Im pretty sure he will fix it . Once hes set on a goal theres no stopping chuckGPT

[pulsar heath]

need to fix the lazy part

z is 0

and also

replace the getplayer with vars...

so only one call is made to the instance

b4 someone kicks my ass for bad coding habits 😄

[pulsar heath]

    local ZedList = player:getCell():getZombieList()
    local zedcount = 0
           for i=0, ZedList:size()-1 do
            local zombie = ZedList:get(i);
                if zombie then
                    zedcount = zedcount +1
                    if zedcount <=  zedQ then
                        zombie:pathToLocationF(x,y,z);
                    end
                end
        end
end```

is this good enough or can i improve it sill?

    local sourceId = source:getOnlineID();
    local x = source:getX()
    local y = source:getY()
    local z = source:getZ()
    print("Zedspawn [".. sourceId .."] quant: ", ZedQ)
    print("Zedspawn [".. sourceId .."] XY: ", args.ZedX,args.ZedY)
    print("Zedspawn [".. sourceId .."] PlayerXY: ", source:getX(),source:getY())
    createHordeFromTo(args.ZedX, args.ZedY, x, y, args.ZedQ)
    ZedsToPlayer(source,args.ZedQ,x,y,z)
end

done i hope

now the car alarms ....

[jaunty marten]

hmmm, trying to do my mod better and have question is there any way to merge two textures in single one in kahlua? I need to set a few sprites on object and currently uses just :SetSprite and :SetOverlaySprite so I have only 2 slots for textures, it's fine for now but I'll need more in future. I can't merge them manually cos it's 16 * 2 * 2 = 64 extra textures and that's not final count => it's too shitty way. I'm sure for 99% pz can't provide feature to merge textures but... maybe?

[pulsar heath]

i remember chuck had a trick for the alpha that could possible be of use to you for what you want to do

something about the overlay of 2 textures and mixing cant quite remember

[jaunty marten]

@sour island I'm begging you, please tell me I can do this in pz

[ancient grail]

will this work?

Events.OnPlayerUpdate.Add(function(player)
    if player:isAiming()
        player:nullifyAiming() 
        getCore():setOptionAimOutline(false)
    end
end) 

[pulsar heath]

removing the aim outline?

or stoping him from aiming?!

i saw something similar in britas or arsenal

i think

[ancient grail]

Removing the outline
Idk what nullifyaiming is
Maybe its the red version of the aim

But idont care abt that i care more abt the aimoutline
Also how do i remove that option from the settings

[ancient grail]

Just spawn another instance of sprite overlay
I did this for one of my mod

[jaunty marten]

wdym?

[ancient grail]

You want them to look merge but you can always out stuff on top if each other

Basically having infinite layers

[jaunty marten]

how to do it? setSprite or setOverlaySprite accepts only 1 arg > sprite_obj, there's no such arg for layer num

[pulsar heath]

yeah from what im seeing in another mod, it resets the aiming

[dull obsidian]

hello. was making a car mod and keep running into code related issues, basically what i've done here is added a bodywork part that does not exist in vanilla (front bumper) and wanted to make it detachable. First of all, part does not appear when i spawn the car, second, it does exist in the mech. overlay, third, when i'm trying to install it it gives me this issue (getDisplayName() of non table). Also when clicking on "install" local it also gives me two errors (getDisplayName() of non table and getType of non table). Screenshots attached.

I suspect that the game does not consider this as a part, but clueless on how to fix it

This issue bugs me for a couple of days now and i will be very grateful if someone gives me a clue on how to fix this

[ancient grail]

Show your code

[dull obsidian]

No problem, but which code exactly?

[ancient grail]

How you spawned the car

[dull obsidian]

spawned using a debug menue

[ancient grail]

Ow so youre not developing a mod?

[dull obsidian]

by that you mean?

[ancient grail]

#1019767076094758924
☝️

[pulsar heath]

youll need to overwrite the code of the car for that to work

and add the part location

[dull obsidian]

mmm its not related to the pz assets, it is my asset that i want to integrate and am miserable at

[pulsar heath]

dunno if you can do that with scripting or if youll actually need to code it in lua

[ancient grail]

This is the comms for modders who authors mod.
Idk how to help you if its not mod related tbh even if i wanted too. But i think the debug menu isnt really spawning the vehicle its just client sided
Then heres the part i will attempt to make change your code but since you arent writting any
.im lost as to what to do

Nit being rude or anything just pointing you the right direction thats all

[dull obsidian]

vehicle modding has scripting part, which should be all set and lua part, which i have no major experience at and suspect as a potential issue

[pulsar heath]

dont suspect it is the reason

you cant just add parts to the car

youll need to alter the code to accept the new part

in theory youll have to overwrite the default code for the car

and add in the bits and pieces youll need to add a bumper

[dull obsidian]

in theory yes, but making it work is a whole other problem

[pulsar heath]

you should check the modding guide

i think theres something there about modeling

a sec ill check

[ancient grail]

Show the code

[dull obsidian]

there are vehicle mods that utilise custom parts such as armor and they do have additional lua code

[ancient grail]

Ownroght its just script nvm sorry

[pulsar heath]

yeah thats the reason why they have it

since the base car has no way to atach the new parts

they rewrote the code to allow it

[ancient grail]

Amm debug doesnt work wait let me give you a piece of code that will actually spawn

=-y

[pulsar heath]

i think a good mod for you to have a look inside would be the workshop

have a look inside the code of this mod https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2680473910&searchtext=workshop

i bet you can get a pretty good idea of what you have to do from the code they use

[ancient grail]

plocal spawnV = "Base.Car2"
local command = "/addvehicle ".. spawnV .. ' '.. tostring(getPlayer():getUsername()) 
SendCommandToServer(command)

    function randV()
        local scripts = getScriptManager():getAllVehicleScripts()        
        local allV = scripts:size()+1    
        local randV = ZombRand(1, allV)
        local randM = scripts:get(randV):getModule():getName()
        local randN = scripts:get(randV):getName()
        local spawnV = randM..'.'..randN    
        local command = "/addvehicle ".. spawnV .. ' '.. tostring(getPlayer():getUsername())         
        SendCommandToServer(command)
    end

randV()

[pulsar heath]

and for the car itself check https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2926401528

anyway i think youll have better luck asking the #modeling chat

[ancient grail]

im really lost and confused idont understand the problem or youdont understand whats going on...
first you said non table
and mentioned vehicle parts...
its non exsitent which is why the part never exist cuz the car doesnt exist

try to spawn a regular thing then try again

also what did you do to get the error

you should have a code or script or a mod you are working on right

anything will help pinpoint the problem and we can provide solution if we know the answer

[dull obsidian]

oke thanks, not really sure how to use it as i am a doughnut in coding which i apologise for

[dull obsidian]

now about that

the car itself does exist (dont mind the mask), was spaund through the debug menue

the basic are put together as a set of scripts

this part is pretty much based on vanilla

then cars have the lua folder, where mainly their distribution zones, mechanics overlay and translation names are defined

but now it seems that for custom parts this is not enough

[dull obsidian]

the error is triggered upon installing the front bumper

[jaunty marten]

can u show the code how u did it?

[dull obsidian]

thanks for the links, will check how they put it together

[ancient grail]

Im not particularly experienced with car modding
You should probably wait for others to help u...i thought issue was spawnning vehicle

[dull obsidian]

yeah, i was doubting that this thread is the most appropriate, but as it is code related i decided to post it here

[dull obsidian]

thanks for the help anyways, will check out those two mods linked above and figure something out

[ancient grail]

What m3ss is telling you to with them is to actually use it as reference

[dull obsidian]

I know, thats how i learned the basics aswell, hopefully it will help

[sour island]

performance wise alone it's probably better to make these outside of PZ

try to automated the process the best you can

especially if you're trying to add on more than just 1 texture - and if I understand you're trying to add 64 textures??

The trick mentioned that I use is in photoshop and it's for nicer looking recolors

I manually separate the elements and just change each one to a different combo of colors - for anyone curious

There's probably a way to automate what you're doing - but it should be done once

outside of PZ if possible - that'd be my advice

[jaunty marten]

yea, manually made fine for this but I need it for other way

[sour island]

What are you trying to merge exactly?

I know recoloring textures makes them look bad and overlays are a better way to keep consistency

[jaunty marten]

basically I need to merge pieces of these images

[sour island]

?

[jaunty marten]

sec

[jaunty marten]

as I said it's too much to merge all of it by photoshop

[ancient grail]

i created a photoshop acttion forre sizing to icon sizess

you just have to select the thing then press the action

since chuck mentioned automate

[jaunty marten]

each water pipe type (WaterPipe_*) can have one of 3 green dot types

rn it's fine cos I'm using setSprite for water pipe and setOverlaySprite for dots

but it's shit cos idk what to do if I'll need 3rd slot for some image

[pulsar heath]

plumbing mod?

[jaunty marten]

and I want to find some way to merge 2 sprites in single

[jaunty marten]

yeah

[pulsar heath]

or irrigation mod?

nice

[jaunty marten]

all of these

[fast galleon]

add another obj?

[ancient grail]

and you cant make like pre merged stuff

[ancient grail]

thats what i was saying

probably not an option for him

[jaunty marten]

it's just a crutch

like and current state with :setOverlaySprite

[jaunty marten]

there will be so much textures then

16 * (2 ^ 3)

[ancient grail]

ye if you cant find a way to then thats just one option

[jaunty marten]

seems now I remember why I dropped this mod..

[ancient grail]

cant you

setOverlaySprite = {"a","b","c"}

[pulsar heath]

never messed around with that kind of mod

[fast galleon]

crutch?

[jaunty marten]

(shitty way)

[jaunty marten]

overlaysprite only just a string

already changed source

and setSprite and setOverlaySprite

[ancient grail]

we do lots of shitty stuff anyways .. besides youre building an irrigation mod so time to get your hands dirty 💩

[fast galleon]

I mean that's what vanilla does and mapping, they put more objects to combine them where necessary.

[pulsar heath]

whats the easiest way to get a cell from xy?

[ancient grail]

yep

[jaunty marten]

[sour island]

oh yeah

I guess you could attach Sprites to the isoObjects

[jaunty marten]

huh?

[fast galleon]

ISA uses combo overlays to be honest. Merged out of game.

[sour island]

if the pipes are isoObjects you can attach IsoSprites to it

[fast galleon]

Like the floor erosion, sounds good idea.

[jaunty marten]

they could added some way to merge in-game and just don't use it

[sour island]

merging images in game is very costly tho

[jaunty marten]

if do it each frame xp

[sour island]

even adding IsoSprites on top of an IsoObject is somewhat a costly approach

[jaunty marten]

it should merge 2 textures in single one and it will be basic texture so it's -0% to performance

if there's any way

[sour island]

Yes, but if that becomes a norm you'd get longer bootup times

cause your game is merging textures

you should be able to add sprites onto isoObject though

[jaunty marten]

it have to just override bytecode of texture by bytecode of another one, not so hard thing

[fast galleon]

That's a good idea, gonna test this and make the Battery Bank an IsoGenerator with attached sprites, new incompatible version incoming 🙂

[jaunty marten]

maybe there's way to get bytecode of texture and set it so I can override one manually..

[sour island]

Are you trying to add these to an item icon?

[jaunty marten]

just found IsoSpriteGrid, idk what is that but seems it not for me

[sour island]

like in inventory? I assumed based on the art it was on the grid

[jaunty marten]

do u mean these?

[sour island]

Yes, I have an old commission I can send you stuff from

I made biomes in PZ

[jaunty marten]

yea, please

btw java have getting bytes function

[sour island]

local function applySpriteToObject(sprite, isoObject)

    if not isoObject:getAttachedAnimSprite() then
        isoObject:setAttachedAnimSprite(ArrayList.new(4))
    end

    ---@type IsoSprite
    local isoSprite = getSprite(sprite)
    isoSprite:setName(sprite)

    ---@type IsoSpriteInstance
    local isoSpriteInstance = IsoSpriteInstance.get(isoSprite)

    ---@type ArrayList
    local isoObjectAttachedAnimSprite = isoObject:getAttachedAnimSprite()
    if isoObjectAttachedAnimSprite then
        isoObjectAttachedAnimSprite:add(isoSpriteInstance)
        return isoSpriteInstance
    end
end

sprite is a string of the texture

[jaunty marten]

so by this code u can free applied a few textures to object, right?

[sour island]

you'll have to make these into sprites like for mapping

I've added 3-4 sprites over every tile for the load tests

it lagged when teleporting and stuttered a bit when walking

but that was every single tile on every z

[jaunty marten]

cool, thanks

[sour island]

• the logic for biomes

so you should be fine adding more than a few on just pipes

[jaunty marten]

now I have sense to complete this mod

[pulsar heath]

    local sourceId = source:getOnlineID();
    local x = source:getX()
    local y = source:getY()
    local z = source:getZ()
    local ZedList = player:getCell():getZombieList()

    if ZedList then
    zombie = ZedList:get(0)
    if zombie then
    x = zombie:getX()
    y = zombie.getY()
    z = zombie.getZ()
    end
    end
    print("Zedspawn [".. sourceId .."] quant: ", ZedQ)
    print("Zedspawn [".. sourceId .."] XY: ", args.ZedX,args.ZedY)
    print("Zedspawn [".. sourceId .."] PlayerXY: ", source:getX(),source:getY())
    createHordeFromTo(args.ZedX, args.ZedY, x, y, args.ZedQ)
    ZedsToPlayer(source,args.ZedQ,x,y,z)
end
``` thinking about the zombie spawning... do you guys think this would be viable?

its wrong... correcting it...

[jaunty marten]

btw just found another interesting thing https://projectzomboid.com/modding/zombie/core/textures/SmartTexture.html

feels gotcha

nil

[pulsar heath]

ok i think i've got it

    local sourceId = source:getOnlineID();
    local x = source:getX()
    local y = source:getY()
    local z = source:getZ()
    local zombie = nill
    local ZedList = source:getCell():getZombieList() -- get zombies in the cell
    if ZedList then  -- if no zombie was found values are kept from source
    zombie = ZedList:get(0) -- get first zombie found
    if zombie then
    args.ZedX = zombie:getX() -- set the spawn for the existing zombie x and y
    args.ZedY = zombie:getY()
    end
    end
    print("Zedspawn [".. sourceId .."] quant: ", ZedQ)
    print("Zedspawn [".. sourceId .."] XY: ", args.ZedX,args.ZedY)
    print("Zedspawn [".. sourceId .."] PlayerXY: ", source:getX(),source:getY())
    createHordeFromTo(args.ZedX, args.ZedY, x, y, args.ZedQ) 
    ZedsToPlayer(zombie,args.ZedQ,x,y,z)
end

function ZedsToPlayer(source,zedQ,x,y,z)
    local ZedList = source:getCell():getZombieList()
    local zedcount = 0
        for i=0, ZedList:size()-1 do
            local zombie = ZedList:get(i);
                if zombie then
            zedcount = zedcount +1
            if zedcount <=  zedQ then
            zombie:pathToLocationF(x,y,z);
            end
            end
        end
end```

dont see anything else wrong... but i never do.... 😄

[finite radish]

your indentation is all kinds of fucked up, but beyond that I don't see anything too egregious at first glance

[grand solar]

hey just wanted to know that that i decide to make assets for PZ, like the shelfs or something, or maybe long blunt or short blunt weapons, then do i need to know coding? and from where should i start to make these? i purchased the game last week.., i am an 3D Environment Artist, but wanted to know how can i make stuffs..

any tutorials or guidance should work ig..

[pulsar heath]

it always is until i clean the code 😄

[pulsar heath]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding

that should help you get started

[grand solar]

ohh okay, thanks, i will check it out

[ancient grail]

Wait what?!
Wizardry

[sour island]

nah, just picked apart the rendering system - I still don't know why that list needs a define of 4

[pulsar heath]

well the spawning location is working

but the zombies dont move to the player

god dang it it worked when i tried b4 adding it to the mod

....

[jaunty marten]

do u mean with >4 it won't work?

[sour island]

you can add as many as you want

[finite radish]

is it a minimum of 4?

[sour island]

it's an empty array

[ancient grail]

How many tile variation is it that you need exactly

[sour island]

but the java sets it size to 4

I worked on this in august

I recall it refusing to work

[finite radish]

i know it's an empty array, but if won't work with any values less than 4, it could be that it's just representing a word (4 bytes)

not a "word" as in the language sense, but a word as in... the programming sense

[sour island]

ah

[finite radish]

most values in the engine are going to be 32 bits, and there's 8 bits to a byte
so 32/8 = 4

just a guess though, I don't know if that's actually what's going on in that case

[sour island]

so the first 4 are maybe an id of sorts?

cause you can add onto it

as many sprites as you want

[finite radish]

could be, yeah. does the java version assign a type to it?

[sour island]

I'd have to look it up - last touched it in august

😅

[finite radish]

that'd be telling. if it's an int, or an array of 4 bytes, then you're probably right that it's an ID

if it's a string that'll be weird - because that'd be an array of 4 characters most likely, and I can't think of any reason you'd have a 4-length string in there. but who knows

still weird that it'd pass that way instead of just using the type directly though. maybe something to do with allocation, idk

[sour island]

            if (!StringUtils.isNullOrWhitespace(var3)) {
               if (var1.AttachedAnimSprite == null) {
                  var1.AttachedAnimSprite = new ArrayList(4);
               }

               IsoSprite var11 = IsoSpriteManager.instance.getSprite(var3);
               var11.name = var3;
               IsoSpriteInstance var12 = IsoSpriteInstance.get(var11);
               if (var7 > 0.0F) {
                  var12.tintr = var4;
                  var12.tintg = var5;
                  var12.tintb = var6;
                  var12.alpha = var7;
               }

               var12.bCopyTargetAlpha = false;
               var12.bMultiplyObjectAlpha = true;
               var1.AttachedAnimSprite.add(var12);
            }

[jaunty marten]

trying to remember how my water pipes mod is working

[sour island]

this is where I got it from

public void updateTileOverlaySprite(IsoObject var1) {
      if (var1 != null) {
         IsoGridSquare var2 = var1.getSquare();
         if (var2 != null) {
            String var3 = null;
            float var4 = -1.0F;
            float var5 = -1.0F;
            float var6 = -1.0F;
            float var7 = -1.0F;
            if (var1.sprite != null && var1.sprite.name != null) {
               TileOverlays.TileOverlay var8 = (TileOverlays.TileOverlay)overlayMap.get(var1.sprite.name);
               if (var8 != null) {
                  String var9 = "other";
                  if (var2.getRoom() != null) {
                     var9 = var2.getRoom().getName();
                  }

                  TileOverlays.TileOverlayEntry var10 = var8.pickRandom(var9, var2);
                  if (var10 == null) {
                     var10 = var8.pickRandom("other", var2);
                  }

                  if (var10 != null) {
                     if (var10.usage.bTableTop && this.hasObjectOnTop(var1)) {
                        return;
                     }

                     var3 = var10.pickRandom(var2.x, var2.y, var2.z);
                     if (var10.usage.alpha >= 0.0F) {
                        var6 = 1.0F;
                        var5 = 1.0F;
                        var4 = 1.0F;
                        var7 = var10.usage.alpha;
                     }
                  }
               }
            }

            if (!StringUtils.isNullOrWhitespace(var3) && !GameServer.bServer && Texture.getSharedTexture(var3) == null) {
               var3 = null;
            }

            ...

         }
      }
   }

it seems to use this field and give it a list of 4 entries

often

if you use add() on an array[4] and it's empty does it fill 1 or 5?

[jaunty marten]

r u talking about bytes
meanwhile in tis: hmmm, I think 4 sprites will be enough

[sour island]

you can add more than 4

[jaunty marten]

I'm talking exactly about number

4

[sour island]

            int var4 = this.AttachedAnimSprite.size() > 255 ? 255 : this.AttachedAnimSprite.size();
            if (var4 != 1) {
               var1.put((byte)var4);
            }

uses it's size as a byte

[finite radish]

yup there's the byte type I was assuming was there, although it's still a little vague where that goes exactly. I'd say that's the case though

what's the thing it's casting to byte there, var4?

oh wait it's defined there i'm blind

so either 255 or the size, whichever is larger

[sour island]

I don't really understand bytes - if I can keep adding more sprites how does the list's length work as a byte?

it is like a hash - that a certain combination of sprites makes the same byte or?

[finite radish]

it's basically saying the maximum size of the list is the size of byte
which is 255

so you can have 255 sprites, max

[fast galleon]

smaller?

[finite radish]

yeah, I meant smaller

whoops

[fast galleon]

ok

[jaunty marten]

too little

[finite radish]

if you attach 255 sprites, you have a problem

[sour island]

that's just for 1 object

[fast galleon]

for one object

[sour island]

you can have as many objects on the tile you want friend

[hollow current]

I discussed sth here before, regarding picking a random item from a json file and using it in my script. I was told it's a bad way, especially wen it comes to translating those items, and that I already have the built-in method, translations. So, my question is, assuming I have a JSON file that consists of something like:

{
  "stories": [
    {
      "title": "Story 1",
      "content": "Story 1 Content"
    },
    {
      "title": "Story 2",
      "content": "Story 2 Content"
    },
    {
      "title": "Story 3",
      "content": "Story 3 Content"
    },
    {
      "title": "Story 4",
      "content": "Story 4 Content"
    }
  ]
}```

How do I use such form in the translations files, to be able to pick one random item from it?

[fast galleon]

It looks like blood uses this system?

[sour island]

floor grime does too

[finite radish]

i thought objects were limited to one per tile?

[sour island]

as does erosion to some extent

[finite radish]

yeah they're attached sprites, the map uses them extensively. basically anything that uses the "Overlay" tile property

[jaunty marten]

how do u will to translate it..

[sour island]

I think there's a limit on mapobjects but I can see with my inspector there's multiple isoObjects on the same tile usually 2-3

[finite radish]

oh yeah, IsoObject is just anything

[ancient grail]

@quasi kernel didnt you make a farming framework? Can you share link so can add to the compiled stuff thx

[finite radish]

the player is an IsoObject technically

[sour island]

as are sprites

[finite radish]

yup

but map objects are different tho

[sour island]

you could technically attach a sprite to a sprite ???

[finite radish]

in this case, it's attached sprites - which apply to map tiles, more or less

you can't attach these to just anything

[sour island]

oh

[hollow current]

well that's exactly what I am asking about. How do I transform that "form" to a something usable in the translations, is it at all possible?

[sour island]

public void updateTileOverlaySprite(IsoObject var1) { ?

[finite radish]

they're specifically for the map tiles (although maybe you could attach them to other stuff? I don't know why you'd want to, but maybe you could find a way to do it)

[fast galleon]

there's a lot of map objects you can place together

[finite radish]

could be - I've mostly worked with them in the context of the map binaries and mapping tools, haven't looked at the code related to them other than when the binaries are parsed

[jaunty marten]

if he will response to u can u share it me too? mb will something useful for my mod for irrigate plants and etc

[finite radish]

depends on what you mean by map objects. the "Map Object" proper can only have one per tile, i.e. IsoGenerator

[jaunty marten]

in json use id from translated file

[hollow current]

because like, I can have the translations file in the way of:

Stories_EN = {
    Stories_Story1 = "Content 1",
    Stories_Story2 = "Content 2",
}```

How do I pick from them randomly? How do I adjust that to have a title for each one?

[hollow current]

oh

[fast galleon]

maybe I don't understand why we mix map objects and attached anim sprites

[finite radish]

because they're two different things

[fast galleon]

you said map objects

[finite radish]

right, but we're talking about attached sprites via tile overlays

[ancient grail]

Sure man

[sour island]

the attachedSprites thing is under IsoObjects

[fast galleon]

not true, you can have multiple walls, crates, etc

[finite radish]

none of which are Map Objects

[sour island]

I'd be inclined to think you can add overlay to mapobjects or maybe anything

[finite radish]

true, maybe

[sour island]

let me try to add an overlay to myself

[fast galleon]

I don't understand you. mentioned a generator

[sour island]

IsoDoor IsoWindow IsoLightSwitch IsoGenerator IsoBarrel

are mapobjects

[finite radish]

[ancient grail]

These an animated sprite thing on the docs right

I always thought it was used for campfire, tv, water smoke

[sour island]

campfire is a mapobject too

[finite radish]

yup

[sour island]

I think furniture are as well(?)

[ancient grail]

You have a lost of these things right

[fast galleon]

so are walls, crates, etc

[finite radish]

not as far as I'm aware

[finite radish]

nope

[sour island]

walls are not unless player built

[fast galleon]

yes

[finite radish]

walls most definitely are not

[sour island]

it certainly feels like 2 systems cobbled together

[finite radish]

you can only have one on each tile, but I don't believe they derive from the mapobject class or whatever properties that make them into the proper mapobject

[fast galleon]

this again, are you talking about global objects maybe?

[sour island]

Nah, mapobjects are referenced but not an actual class

afaik

[ancient grail]

[sour island]

there's a global list called mapobjects

[finite radish]

yeah it's weird

i haven't looked at them in a hot minute so I couldn't tell you the details off the top of my head

but more or less - to get back to the original thing - tile properties determine what can/can't be placed in certain arrangements

overlays = attachedSprite = get placed on the tile, in a layer arrangement

[fast galleon]

I'm not even sure if we talk about map or world here.

[finite radish]

you can have any number of sprites on a tile up to 255, but there can only be one "floor" at the base, and it has to have a floor tile property

[sour island]

and mapobjects manipulate the properties too I recall

I think that's what they're essence is(?)

walls/floors are tiles

their sprites get structured together to give the tile it's property

[fast galleon]

Only java mapobjects I see, is the one similar to events. That triggers funtions.

[ancient grail]

Questionn
Theres a thing called remove everything but floor

[sour island]

but you can also slap a mapobject like a door on it and the tile will read it from what I recall (?)

[finite radish]

nah, tile properties are defined in the... well, tile properties. it's a whole binary that's basically a config for each sprite.

[ancient grail]

What does it do exactly like does it delete zeds items corpse or are we talking abt just tiles

[sour island]

sprites definitely have their own properties that match tile's though

I recall that from the biome code

[finite radish]

that's likely in the context of tile sprites, for the map. it'd remove any attached sprites or other tiles on each layer except for 0 (the floor)

[finite radish]

those are one and the same, more or less - I've seen tile and sprite used interchangably

[ancient grail]

Cool
You make the whole place clean like that
So what if
getCell()
Then do that

[sour island]

I think it's amalgamated

[ancient grail]

It will remove everything will it remove floors above

[sour island]

they're referred to as flags

[finite radish]

the way I tend to think of it is that the sprite is just the base image, cut from the spritesheet. the "tile" would include that sprite, as well as the tile properties that are associated with that sprite, to form the tile object

and yeah tile properties are mostly flags

there's a few that are actual strings and such, but like 90% of them are flags

[ancient grail]

Pretty logical

So everything you see that involves tiles are tileobj? Or not all

[sour island]

isoSprite carries tile properties

[ancient grail]

Is there
if instanceof(obj, "IsoTileObject") then

[sour island]

putting them together gives the tile the combination of their properties

[ancient grail]

I doubt

[finite radish]

you can just do typeof() I'm pretty sure, or maybe type() i forget

[sour island]

there's also no such thing as isotileobject

is there?

[finite radish]

i don't recall

[sour island]

the sprites are added to the square

[ancient grail]

I think what we are discussing right now is something any mapper should know

Crater is a mapper

[sour island]

IsoGridSquare

[fast galleon]

a tile is the map part, not world part. In-game they are isoObjects, etc

[ancient grail]

But everything else are considered isoObj right

[finite radish]

okay I think I figured out the confusion - "tile" is more or less a term used in the mapping tools' code, so I'm accidentally confusing everyone

pretty sure chuck is right that they're just IsoSprite in the game though

[sour island]

local specialOverrideExceptions = {"IsoCurtain","IsoDoor","IsoWindow","IsoBarricade","IsoLightSwitch"}
---Vanilla has a getFloor but it causes layering issues if there's objects over the floor - like walls
---@param isoGridSquare IsoGridSquare
local function ifFlagTypeGetObject(isoGridSquare, isoFlagType)
    local isoObjects = isoGridSquare:getObjects()

    local objWithFlagFound
    local lastSpriteObject

    if isoFlagType == IsoFlagType.solidfloor and isoGridSquare:getProperties():Is("BlocksPlacement") then return end

    for i=0, isoObjects:size()-1 do
        ---@type IsoObject
        local isoObj = isoObjects:get(i)
        if isoObj then
            local isoObjSprite = isoObj:getSprite()
            local isoObjSpriteName = isoObjSprite:getName()
            if isoObjSprite and isoObjSpriteName then
                if isoObj:getType()==IsoObjectType.wall and string.find(isoObjSpriteName, "roofs") then
                else
                    if isoObjSprite:getProperties():Is(isoFlagType) then
                        objWithFlagFound = true
                        lastSpriteObject = i
                    end

                    if objWithFlagFound then
                        if (not isoGridSquare:getProperties():Is("IsMoveAble")) then
                            lastSpriteObject = i
                        end
                        for _,type in pairs(specialOverrideExceptions) do
                            if instanceof(isoObj, type) then
                                lastSpriteObject = i
                            end
                        end
                    end
                end
            end
        end
    end
    if objWithFlagFound and lastSpriteObject then
        return isoObjects:get(lastSpriteObject)
    end
end

[fast galleon]

yeah tileobject is not real thing in-game

[sour island]

Other part of that biome code

[finite radish]

the game does use "tile" in a bunch of function names but it's likely a later-dev term

[sour island]

this was to... uh... grab the last sprite layer but avoid certain issues with layering

[ancient grail]

Then im also confused about thumpables

I thought thump are those with hp
But then light swwitch are also thump

[sour island]

thumpables are the closest to match 'mapobjects' in java

[finite radish]

to clear things up a bit: it goes IsoCell->IsoChunk->IsoGridSquare->IsoSprite
there's only 1 IsoGridSquare at each coordinate on the map, on each vertical Z level

[ancient grail]

Map obj are those with globals right? I missed this part earlier maybe i should read again

[fast galleon]

Why are we adding new names (mapobjects)?

[finite radish]

but yeah Chuck that's good, I was starting to suspect mapobjects were a Lua thing

[sour island]

I believe mapobjects referenced = thumpables

[finite radish]

they're a lua thing (MOGenerator)

[sour island]

the lau references them as mapobjects :\

I'm not hallucinating this

[finite radish]

yeah same LOL

[fast galleon]

MapObjects is a system similar to events

[ancient grail]

Of someone could write all the iso

[fast galleon]

stop confusing people

[finite radish]

...

no one is confusing anyone lol, other than maybe the devs

[sour island]

mapbject events?

[fast galleon]

yeah, you set a spritename and a function and it gets called from java

[ancient grail]

Reason why mentioned global was cuz i saw s panel with global objects and it links to campfire traps and water barrel

[sour island]

I don't follow- what does it do?

[fast galleon]

calls your function

I'm on mobile so bear with me.

[finite radish]

it's just a callback event handler like any other, yeah

OnLoadWithSprite etc

[fast galleon]

MapObjects.OnLoadWithSprite("sprite",myFunc,5)

[sour island]

I feel like i'm being mandela effected but I guess it wasn't mapobjects but 'worldobjects' ?

Lua refers to IsoXYZ as worldobjects

[fast galleon]

when the game load an object with spritename "sprite" it will call myFunc with the object as argument.

[sour island]

also not all IsoXYZ that goes on the world are thumpable

IsoGenerator isn't - not sure if light switch would be

public class IsoLightSwitch extends IsoObject { it's not

thump = can be thumped lol

[fast galleon]

things loaded from map aren't usually thumpable. There's not such option to set either(?).

Placing objects has that option.

[sour island]

map tiles have properties for that

it's how counters and walls work

Nurver made countertops hoppable for instance

[fast galleon]

those are not thumpable though when they load from map?

[sour island]

they're not IsoThumpable but they have thumpabale flags iirc

[fast galleon]

not same thing

[sour island]

didn't say they were

someone said IsoLightSwitch was a IsoT

[silk quarry]

What's the way to make your mod easily translatable? i.e. How do you use the lua/shared/Translate/[language code]/*.txt files

I see they're stringtables. But I can't find any of the keys anywhere, if I look at mods that use them. Like looking at the More Skill Books mod, it has keys in those txt files like DisplayName_Sneaking_for_Beginners and the MoreDescriptionForMoodles has like... Moodles_endurance_desc_lvl1 but those keys don't appear to be present anywhere in the mod's other files. I assumed maybe they're dynamically generated so I searched for things like _desc_ to try and find that but no dice. So! I am here to ask for one (1) halp.

[sour island]

I was tying to bridge the lua term (which I misrecalled) to the java terminology

there isn't really a class for "worldobjects" other than just IsoObject

[tame mulch]

Hi! About what discussion here?

[pulsar heath]

getText(Ui_Something)

[fast galleon]

look for getText, it's how you get translated strings. Things that are auto translated follow different logics sometimes.

[silk quarry]

Aha, thank you both

[pulsar heath]

example: HaloTextHelper.addTextWithArrow(playerChar, getText("UI_trait_"..TWETraitsTable[MyTrait]), true, HaloTextHelper.getColorGreen())

[finite radish]

yeah, they all derive from IsoObject (but then again, what doesn't? lol)

[pulsar heath]

the _ disappears ?

[finite radish]

oh actually, I should clarify: IsoCell, IsoChunk, etc. are not IsoObject

they're just normal Java objects

[silk quarry]

It's the symbol for italics in Discord

[pulsar heath]

basicly you have something called UI_MYtext

and you use getText("UI_MYtext")

[fast galleon]

I am just trying to get the terminology straight. So people like me don't get more confused than they need to be, and maybe explain something.

[pulsar heath]

and it will replace that with the text

[sour island]

I guess the current discussion is about what lua refers to as 'worldobjects' and how they relate to IsoDoor and those specific classes

the context menu pulls all the isoObjects I believe

[silk quarry]

Is there any set naming scheme for the *.txt files in the Translate folders?

[sour island]

so "worldobjects" are just IsoObjects in the world... lol

[pulsar heath]

yup there is

[pulsar heath]

EN for english, etc

[sour island]

if I use my inspect tool

[silk quarry]

Or can they be whatever? And the name for the object in that file, since it appears to be like ...
Going back to the MoreDescriptionForMoodles, theirs is Moodles_EN = { ... stringtable ...}

[pulsar heath]

i think its on the modding wiki

[sour island]

shows the isobojects on each tile under context menu

[silk quarry]

Oh, no I know that part, I mean about the .txt files though

[fast galleon]

pls no "mapobjects" I asked already and you have no clear definition for that.

[pulsar heath]

the name or the content of the files?

[silk quarry]

Well, both, really.

[sour island]

sorry worldobjects*

[pulsar heath]

the files on the wiki theres a table with all the languages

[sour island]

idk why I can swear it was called mapobjects in lua....

[pulsar heath]

the files its usually ( EN for example )

    UI_optionscreen_binding_STATSPZ = "Twitch Game Stats",
    UI_TwitchInGameWindow_status = "Ingame Stats Window",
    UI_Zkills = "Zombie Kills",
    UI_AliveFor ="Time Alive",
    UI_optionscreen_binding_STATSPZToggle = "Game Window Key",
    UI_TwitchStatsTitle = "Game Stats"
}```

[fast galleon]

It just makes harder to explain things and confuses people 😦

[pulsar heath]

inside the UI_EN you use the naming you want... thats just from one of my mods

[sour island]

Well I'm confused

I don't even use the term myself

[pulsar heath]

the file i have for PTBR

    UI_optionscreen_binding_STATSPZ = "Twitch Game Stats",
    UI_TwitchInGameWindow_status = "Janela de Stats no jogo",
    UI_Zkills = "Zombie Mortos",
    UI_AliveFor ="Tempo Vivo",
    UI_TwitchStatsTitle = "Game Stats"

}```

[finite radish]

https://projectzomboid.com/modding/zombie/Lua/MapObjects.html

[sour island]

Oh I started using it for shops

ah that's probably where I got the term from baked into my brain

[silk quarry]

But I can name the text files whatever? And the name of that table whatever?
Like, a name of MyMod_EN.txt is fine? And the name of the table in the mod, you have UI_EN there, is that important?
Or does the java just load every .txt file in this folder, and parse the table out of it regardless of name?
Is it important that the table have a specific name? Like the UI_PTBR? Or could you have used UI_Whatever, as long as you were consistent

[pulsar heath]

no

you have to follow a structure

[tame mulch]

If you mean WorldContextMenu, then here how they choose:

[sour island]

what's the shortcut for en mass text replace

[silk quarry]

Oh I see. I should probably get the filenames and table names from: https://github.com/TheIndieStone/ProjectZomboidTranslations

[finite radish]

ctrl+shift+H

if you mean within the file, just ctrl+H

[pulsar heath]

yup thats why i said to check the modding wiki

[pulsar heath]

is there a reason why the createhordefromto() doesnt work in mp?

[fast galleon]

it's ok to call things anything you want but for explaining it's best to use common terms. So if it has a well defined name already, use that to communicate.

[fast galleon]

CTRL + r

[sour island]

I made a documentary of my journey of self discovery

Apologies for the pausing - my brain was turning gears when I realized when and why I made the mistake

[fast galleon]

well I'm going to run, have fun

[finite radish]

(this is the use case I mentioned to you btw, Aiteron - createHordeFromTo directly calls the native n_spawnhorde)

[sour island]

when using emmylua to type path it auto compelted WorldObjects at one point

and it stuck ever since

[finite radish]

[pulsar heath]

i tried another solution but for some reason it doesnt work all the time

[finite radish]

yeah. I talked to Aiteron about getting docs for the native C/C++ libraries, based on that use case

(and a few others, but yeah)

[pulsar heath]

the wall of code i posted b4