mod_development

[red tiger]

=(

[fast galleon]

this again, no.
you need to put if isClient() then return end at top. Server prints go to different file as well and don't appear in console.

[sour island]

LOG  :> TEST:    134    OnTick    getGameSpeed:0    isServer():true  isClient():false
LOG  :> TEST:    518    OnTickEvenPaused    getGameSpeed:0    isServer():true    isClient():false

[weak sierra]

a consequence i hit was just not being able to understand the damn zombie respawn system well enough

<_<

i had to do it by brute force and make a lot of guesses

[red tiger]

That used to be in ZombiePopulationManager.

[weak sierra]

well it's all a C++ module now

so all the java deadends

[red tiger]

Yup.

Same problem I had a ways back.

[weak sierra]

i didnt even plan to mod it i just wanted to set the settings and know what to expect

[golden sparrow]

I'm confused

[weak sierra]

xD

[red tiger]

Save me the false hope and trim out the dead code. xD

[sour island]

local counter = {}
local function TEST(ID)
    counter[ID] = (counter[ID] or 0) + 1
    print("TEST:", counter[ID], ID, "getGameSpeed:"..getGameSpeed(), "isServer():"..tostring(isServer()), "isClient():"..tostring(isClient()))
       --sendServerCommand("MODULE_TEST", "COMMAND_TEST", {})
end
Events.OnTickEvenPaused.Add(function() TEST("OnTickEvenPaused") end)
Events.OnTick.Add(function() TEST("OnTick") end)

I'm running the code in /server/

gamespeed on a localhost (host from main menu) produces 0

[golden sparrow]

Because actually I use getGameSpeed in the server file to multiply damage and it seems to work zombie are damaged so the value is 1

Like it seems to work ?

[sour island]

If you're tying it to an event

[pulsar heath]

well ill just change the spawn loc function and settle myself with non moving to xy zombies in mp...

dont care anymore

[sour island]

even if it's on /server/ the client runs it too

[pulsar heath]

nothing works of what i've tried...

[sour island]

to clarify terminology

host (host) connection (player)
server-code client-code

my "client" as people would call it, is still running code in server

alongside my "server"

which is why I'm going to instead say my connection is still running server-code alongside my host

also depends on the type of event

[golden sparrow]

Soooo ?

[pulsar heath]

now chuck's mod is trolling me... air raid event 😄

[golden sparrow]

I'm still confused about what i'm supposed to do lol

[pulsar heath]

just what i needed ahahaha

that siren is anoying as hell

[golden sparrow]

Like whats the good way to implement server code ? It is a problem if it runs on everyone PC ?

[sour island]

you can use if isClient() to prevent server-code from running

depends on what you're trying to do

but if you want it to be on host's side you need to send a command

[golden sparrow]

Basically i'm damaging zombie when they thump on an object

[sour island]

which requires the code to sit in /server/

that shouldn't matter tbh

[golden sparrow]

Just running some code checking if a zombie is thumping on a object when a world sound event is triggered

[sour island]

zombie damage should occur clientside anyway

[golden sparrow]

And if it is damage the z

[sour island]

but I'm still struggling to get my zombies to sync and not get auto deleted

so I'll let you know if I run into somethin

[golden sparrow]

networking really is a nightmare lol

i had no idea

[sour island]

they're being knocked down and taking damage but I can't interact wit hthem and they poof

I think it's the overcorrectivness of the MP code

and I don't think it's been exposed much

alot of cheating going on

So to clarify, the host doesn't run client-code at all

my guess as to why connections run server-code may be to accommodate SP?

[pulsar heath]

my guess is that the devs enjoy watching us suffer 😄

trying to make sense of how things work

[sour island]

to make the image clearer

[sour island]

probably the opposite - alot of older mods still function cause stuff isn't renamed as heavily as it probably should be

[pulsar heath]

in a way that makes sense the gametime0 on the server

[red tiger]

Break everything to clean up API? All for it.

=)

(Save the latest unbroken version in steam branches for the game)

[sour island]

they already do that for people griping about cars being added

the only branch that got scrubbed was the one that could have been used to use MP early

if I recall correctly

[pulsar heath]

since when no player is in the server ( dedicated ) the time freezes

i guess the server leeches the gametime from the connected clients

[red tiger]

There's a packet for MP involving syncing the clock

[pulsar heath]

but the clock is not the gametime per say

[sour island]

my guess would be the host's "connection" is paused :p

[red tiger]

It's to do with the random instance

Also game time IIRC.

[sour island]

this is gameSpeed

      @LuaMethod(
         name = "getGameSpeed",
         global = true
      )
      public static int getGameSpeed() {
         return UIManager.getSpeedControls() != null ? UIManager.getSpeedControls().getCurrentGameSpeed() : 0;
      }

It's the host's UI

but not talking about the host's connection but rather the actual machine

[red tiger]

Oh. I'm talking about something else entirely.

[sour island]

~=null : 0

that's why

host doesn't have a UIManager.getSpeedControls assigned to it

what ever the host IS doing, it's akin to a player sitting in the lobby

there but not really

[pulsar heath]

ok its done, just remade the random location spawn function work according to the game mode

if its sp, makes the zombies spawn further away and move to the player

if its mp, spawn closer to the player

[sour island]

that's nicer imo

[pulsar heath]

inside the line of sight

so they can be avoided, but still be a threat

[sour island]

not ideal but atleast you get the wanted behavior in SP

[pulsar heath]

yeah... for now not much else i can do without writing a wall of code

so sp the further away they can spawn adds or removes 85 to x or y

mp i reduced that to 40

perhaps 30 would be best...

[sour island]

I wonder what would break if I started just slapping if isClient return end on all my server code lol

[pulsar heath]

only one way to find out 😄

do it do it do it eheheh

[sour island]

I did add it to the event's i'm tying into

not the whole file tho

Trying to recall what I saw that made me write up this test

pretty sure I got isServer=true in my console.txt or isServer=false in my co-op

[pulsar heath]

40 is to little with max zoom

they spawn inside the players LOS

50 then

😄

or 45...

fine tunning is a pain

[sour island]

you could figure out the direction the player is facing

and grab the squares behind them 😛

[pulsar heath]

if i didnt use the mod myself i would be all over that idea 😄

[fast galleon]

there was a spawn function that picked the square that the player couldn't see as priority?

or you could find the nearest bathroom and put them there

[pulsar heath]

ok 55 is the best value

just outside the players LOS

[fast galleon]

is that including extended, dragged vision?

[pulsar heath]

wihtout dragged vision max zoom out

[fast galleon]

and max resolution?

[pulsar heath]

1920x1080

[lunar robin]

Is there a function to check whether a player is performing an emote?
I only found some info about this one, but can't figure out how it works:
PlayerEmoteState.isDoingActionThatCanBeCancelled()

[pulsar heath]

i think is the more common res

so ill just adjust for that

plus the minimun is 25

so they can spawn anywhere around the player from 25 to 55

[fast galleon]

hm, can you spawn them above ground? So it's like they fall from helicopter?

[pulsar heath]

im spawning them at z = 0

only the x and y are modified

dunno if they take fall damage

so ill leave it like that for now

[fast galleon]

yeah, makes sense.

[pulsar heath]

so 25 is close enough to scare the player and kill him if he doesnt react asap

and the chance is between 25 and 55 so, i think its well rounded

it can kill the streamer but only if he is distracted or something

that with the chat ganging up on the streamer and sending several zombie spawns in a short period of time

id say its 50/50 for the streamers death

or around that

plus i have to consider the zombie spawn and a jet event at the same time

which will for sure pull the zombies in the players direction

so that allows for combos via chat and makes things fun for everyone and not frustrating for the player

[golden sparrow]

If you don't it run one time on host + one time on each client?

[zinc nexus]

any idea why these recipes arent working. lua noob btw

[golden sparrow]

If i understood correctly

[sour island]

I don't understand what you mean, sorry 😅

[golden sparrow]

Like any code written in server/ folder run one time on the host + on each client connected to the host if you don't add the if isClient return part on the top

[nimble spoke]

missing comma in keep Blowtorch line

[pulsar heath]

and the mp bit of the mod is done

[fast galleon]

this is not lua
keep blowtorch,
probably

[pulsar heath]

everything else can be triggered on the client side so no need to change it

[zinc nexus]

oh sweet, cheerrs @fast galleon @nimble spoke

[pulsar heath]

now time for a beer and to chill a bit... enough coding for the day...

[polar thicket]

Is there more we need for our generator mod?

[sour island]

Yes, the connection loads both

I'm curious about shared

[pulsar heath]

in theory it would run in both?

[golden sparrow]

thanks

[fast galleon]

@polar thicket
good practice is to to not name your files the same as original or they will overwrite them.
Common suggestion is to add IS(indie stone) in start or make a folder IS and put them inside.

obviously change IS to something that fits your mod id.

[polar thicket]

Of course

Thanks for that info

We have gotten more into the coding part. Filestructure is stil finnicky

What is the main difference of client and server folders? Client is stuff that does not need to be communicated directly to every player. right?

While server stuff should be the main function of an object that affects everyone?

[fast galleon]

@polar thicket
load order and servers don't load client folder

[polar thicket]

And that means shared is loaded by both client and server?

oh wait

[fringe ridge]

Hey everyone, i've been messing around with my mod's code for a while now and i cannot seem to get what i am trying to do to work.
This is the code i use for the wooden log wall (code for the metal fences/gates and such is similar and those all work)

    ISBuildMenu.onLogWall = function(...)
        local M13LogWall = ISWoodenWall.new
        ISWoodenWall.new = function(...)
            local wall = M13LogWall(...)
            wall.isThumpable = false
            return wall
        end
        M13_onLogWall(...)
        ISWoodenWall.new = M13LogWall
    end

What i wanna know is if i can utilize this code to apply it to the Multistage Walls (Frame -> Lvl 1/2/3 wall)
I've tried several names and those all proofed fruitless.

Thanks in advance.

[polar thicket]

Thanks.

Starting to make sense now

[polar thicket]

I guess on singleplayer you load server files regardless?

while if you join a server and join someone else. You wont load server. And the server wont load client?

[fast galleon]

clients still load server folders, which is why if you don't want that you need to add

if isClient() then return

[sour island]

I wonder if this will be confusing

[fringe ridge]

This value multiplies the "normal" calorie rate ??

Maybe that's a bit easier to read

[drifting ore]

sometimes just a simple explainination of higher number = faster is good to know for us dum dums

[sour island]

(0.016)

[polar thicket]

Thank you this is very helpfull

[golden sparrow]

Anyone have a proper fix to getRadioText no working on MP servers ?

[sour island]

it's 1 * 0.016

Unfortunately has to be done this way due to how the vanilla fixes were implemented

I wonder if I can obfuscate it to be easier on the player

[fringe ridge]

can't you just leave the value out?

[sour island]

    if player:isRunning() and player:isPlayerMoving() then
        baseRate = 1.0
        thermoModifier = 1
        appliedCaloriesDecrease = caloriesDecrease.Exercise
    elseif player:isSprinting() and player:isPlayerMoving() then
        baseRate = 1.3
        thermoModifier = 1
        appliedCaloriesDecrease = caloriesDecrease.Exercise
    elseif player:isPlayerMoving() then
        baseRate = 0.6
        thermoModifier = 1
        appliedCaloriesDecrease = caloriesDecrease.Exercise
    elseif player:isAsleep() then
        appliedCaloriesDecrease = caloriesDecrease.Sleeping
    else
        appliedCaloriesDecrease = caloriesDecrease.Normal
    end

this is a lua translation of how the vanilla files handle it

they had rates for each state

baseRate is modified based on actions being conducted

they modified baseRate

[fringe ridge]

What i mean is: Do People really need to see the base value ? 2.0 = 2x Calorie burn no?

[sour island]

Not with how I currently do it

but if I change it to ```lua
baseRate = (SandboxVars.RebalancedCalorieBurning.SprintingMultiplier or 1) * 1.3

it will be

[fringe ridge]

Would it be possible that the game's base value get's turned into 1.0 so you can use your values as absolute multipliers?

[sour island]

what my mod does is calculate the vanilla values, calculate my own and add only the difference

I'd have to use a hook and replace alot more stuff otherwise

I think this should allow me to have 1's as default for the sandbox options

[fringe ridge]

In all honest oppinion: the base value doesn't need to be known imho
Bigger value means more calories get burned, lower values mean less?
Isn't that what is important to the end-user?

[drifting ore]

that's my input

if you just make it clear whats happening, noone needs to know the numbers

people are still gonna have to mess with the sandbox option to find what works for them, whether they know the math or not

[golden sparrow]

I need this

But it is trolling me

[drifting ore]

aiteron will have it finished lol they barely started getting deep
😄

[sour island]

that's what I made it - the end user just sees 1 as default

direct multiplier 0.01 to 100

[ancient grail]

how ? @dark wedge need this code

[sour island]

very carefully lol

you just need the direction and to grab the squares

there's probably an algorithm for a cone effect

[fringe ridge]

i give up on my mod for now, or at least the player build multistage wall stuff, i can't figure it out :S

[sour island]

are you sure those walls aren't identical to vanilla at that point?

[fringe ridge]

Well what i kinda want is that if a player makes a Metal wall, that zombies ignore it (the wooden walls will also be an option)

But i can't figure out where i have to inject the "isthumpable" stuff

My skills are just lacking mostlikely

[sour island]

    public Vector2 getForwardDirection() {
        return this.m_forwardDirection;
    }

    public void setForwardDirection(Vector2 var1) {
        if (var1 != null) {
            this.setForwardDirection(var1.x, var1.y);
        }
    }

    public void setForwardDirection(float var1, float var2) {
        this.m_forwardDirection.x = var1;
        this.m_forwardDirection.y = var2;
    }

    public void zeroForwardDirectionX() {
        this.setForwardDirection(0.0F, 1.0F);
    }

    public void zeroForwardDirectionY() {
        this.setForwardDirection(1.0F, 0.0F);
    }

    public float getDirectionAngle() {
        return 57.295776F * this.getForwardDirection().getDirection();
    }

    public void setDirectionAngle(float var1) {
        float var2 = 0.017453292F * var1;
        Vector2 var3 = this.getForwardDirection();
        var3.setDirection(var2);
    }

fun... vectors

getDirectionAngle should be useable to determine general directions though

    public String testDotSide(IsoMovingObject var1) {
        Vector2 var2 = this.getLookVector(IsoGameCharacter.l_testDotSide.v1);
        Vector2 var3 = IsoGameCharacter.l_testDotSide.v2.set(this.getX(), this.getY());
        Vector2 var4 = IsoGameCharacter.l_testDotSide.v3.set(var1.x - var3.x, var1.y - var3.y);
        var4.normalize();
        float var5 = Vector2.dot(var4.x, var4.y, var2.x, var2.y);
        if ((double)var5 > 0.7) {
            return "FRONT";
        } else if (var5 < 0.0F && (double)var5 < -0.5) {
            return "BEHIND";
        } else {
            float var6 = var1.x;
            float var7 = var1.y;
            float var8 = var3.x;
            float var9 = var3.y;
            float var10 = var3.x + var2.x;
            float var11 = var3.y + var2.y;
            float var12 = (var6 - var8) * (var11 - var9) - (var7 - var9) * (var10 - var8);
            return var12 > 0.0F ? "RIGHT" : "LEFT";
        }
    }

[finite radish]

Not really a guide, just some documentation or some way to see the source. Certain functions call the libraries natively, and Lua can call the functions that contain those native calls. If we don't know what they actually do, we're entirely in the dark. There are hints that let you kinda assume their usage, but that only goes so far. Again, any sensitive stuff could be excluded, or anything that's used by the game's executable on a technical level, but stuff like the PopMan library and maybe some of the others would be incredibly helpful.

[sour island]

they use this to determine front and back

[dark wedge]

I currently just use self.character:isFacingObject(self.item, -0.65)
Which does tell me if the item is behind my character or not (-0.65 was tested and found to be pretty reliable for what i needed at least).
I was trying to find if an object was to the back left, back right, or just back, of the character, but the isFacingObject returns -1 if the object is behind you, 1 if it is in front, and 0 if perpendicular. I was trying to do it with all math and using the vectors, but its been years since my last math class. I'll look at what was posted

[sour island]

seems like you can use the player's angle and get the vector between the player and the object like you did

if the angle is with in a certain range it'd be back left

so I think you'd need to check two angles

[dark wedge]

yea, i was trying to just mathematically figure it out with the direction vectors. trying to be smart, spent about 3 days on a solution that got nowhere.

[drifting ore]

if you can explain it correctly. it's an exact usecase for ai chat bot if you aren't super against

since you are just having it do complex math

you just need to give the exact explanation of your goal and what the product of outcome is expected and then you can fine tune it from there to work for you

not normally a fan of using in any scenario except for figuring out complex math stuff because it's my worst field

[dark wedge]

yea, i might do that. haven't really messed with the chat bots, so i'll see what it says. good suggestion

[drifting ore]

just an example of a response with it assumie you are in 3d space(which you arent sso doesn't apply, but if you are specific it will consider it)

[dark wedge]

i should be able to specify 2d vectors, as that is what i have

[drifting ore]

You can use the dot product of two vectors to determine the angle between them and determine if an object is to the left, right, or behind your character. Here's a high-level explanation of how it could be done: 1 Calculate the forward vector of your character: you can use the character's rotation or orientation in 3D space to determine their forward direction. 2 Calculate the direction vector from your character to the object: you can use the difference between the character's position and the object's position to get this vector. 3 Calculate the dot product of the forward vector and the direction vector: this will give you a scalar value that represents the cosine of the angle between the two vectors. 4 Check the sign of the dot product: if it's positive, the object is in front of your character, if it's negative, the object is behind your character. If it's zero, the object is perpendicular to your character.

keep in mind this is for something more like dayz where you are char in 3d space but you can alter that so it knows

[dark wedge]

that's more or less what I'm doing now.

[drifting ore]

it will do the specific math tho

if you feed it the examples

it needs to know exactly how you are utilizing so it can go from there

[pulsar heath]

i taught it to make mods in pz 😄

its a good tool to check for "errors"

it takes time, it will spew out a lot of wrong crap

[drifting ore]

it will give you a halfassed decent way to get to where you can make sure its good. you will have to correct stuff

[pulsar heath]

but after a while it will start making sense and actually helping you out detecting what you are doing wrong

[drifting ore]

yea it learns on the fly haha

[sour island]

I have to confess, I'm actually ChatGPT

[drifting ore]

LOL

i knew it!

😄

[pulsar heath]

thats why you made so many mods!

[dark wedge]

"ChuckGPT"

[drifting ore]

lmao

[pulsar heath]

Ai is a good tool but not a replacement for human "work" as many think it is

plus i dont consider it AI per say

its close to be AI but still not there

it just has processing power to the point of iterating everything in the data set and follow code logic

[drifting ore]

chatgpt is like a really informative infant that knows a ton but doesn't know what to do with it 😄

[pulsar heath]

kinda like a dicionary... the info is there... but youre the one who has to figure out what to use and how to use it

it basicly making a query to a very large DB

but in "human language"

at least thats how i see it as is now

[drifting ore]

thats exactly it. you just have to teach it how to utilize that data in a way which makes sense for you, which is why it starts to "get it" after a little bit

i hope it helps you in this case dhert. the stuff you are working on is what i'd consider a much needed enhancement

just like those radials lol... those literally make the game playable for people who havent played before (in my opinion) between recipes and radial you can figure out most of the game lol

[dark wedge]

Thanks! I was trying to use this as an improvement for Fancy Handwork so the rear animation plays with the correct hand. RIght now, it just detects if its behind you and picks a hand. But it doesn't make sense to flick a lightswitch or something with your right hand if the object is on your back-left side. ha

[sour island]

the code I found mentions determining right or left

perhaps that can help

What do you have so far? @dark wedge

[dark wedge]

Oh, i got rid of everything i was trying and just replaced it with: character:isFacingObject(self.item, -0.65)
I rage quit on it a few days ago, with plans to go back to it.
The bit that you posted might lead me to a solution, especially the last bit where it determines left or right. I copied that as a comment so i have it as a note for later.

[sour island]

ah ok

did they finally remove the vector2 file breaking vector2 useage in Lua?

😮 looks like they did - I feel like I learned this earlier in the year

oh it was literally last month

post-covid time is just all a blur

[pulsar heath]

for me is the other way around

covid time is a blur

😄

i went from a job that made me have a very active social life to "hibernating" home

i broke my shell years ago... or i would be unemployed 😄

[sour island]

post-covid = covid's introduction to the world

this is year 3 P.C.

[pulsar heath]

i consider PC after the confinement ended

for 2 years i almost went mad...

i went from going out every night from 22h to 4h to vegetating at home

not easy for someone who has the same work schedule and routine for 20 years to go from busy all the time to ... i have nothing to do

[sour island]

is there an event when you click on something in the world?

I've never tried this lol

oh wait yes I have

[ancient grail]

@dark wedge was it helpful? Thnx @sour island

[dark wedge]

It should help. thanks to all

[polar thicket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469905607286325249/1070790370885111808/image.png

what exactly is this "derive" function?

We have some ideas but we want to be clear

does it mean it takes code from that original file. Then adds the new functions you write bellow?

[golden sparrow]

It creates a new class a child of TimedAction

[sour island]

@dark wedge @ancient grail

I translated the dot test code into Lua

not sure why the left right is inverted lol

[polar thicket]

Interesting. So I was on to something?

[golden sparrow]

Yeah pretty much

[sour island]

ah... the angle is 45 degrees off....

[polar thicket]

So basically it is like you are adding functions to that code during loadup? So basically this code adds its own functions to timedactions when game loads?

[sour island]

I wonder if this has implications in vanilla

also not sure how to fix this lol

I can invert left / right easily enough

but the angles are assuming the map isn't isometric

[ancient grail]

Possible to flip it ?

[sour island]

the left and right, yes it's just a print out

Im more concerned with the angles thing

[ancient grail]

What abt the code for neck bite or the knife backstab killshot thing

[sour island]

I'm hoping it's not using this math lol

[ancient grail]

Dont u think theres a code that detects stuff behind

[sour island]

this is labeled as a test function

[dark wedge]

those use character:isFacingObject

[ancient grail]

This is when chatgpt would become super useful

[fast galleon]

it sets metatable, and Type

local myTable = vanillaTable:derive("myTable")

myTable is a new table with vanillaTable as metatable and myTable.Type is "myTable"

The function is found in ISBaseObject

[dark wedge]

I don't think it matters too much if the angles are off slightly, as the main thing that they seems to be checking for is if the object is behind or in front of the player. and that works

[sour island]

---Brought to you by ChuckGPT
---@param char IsoGameCharacter|IsoMovingObject|IsoObject
---@param obj IsoObject
local function getDotSide(char,obj)

    ---@type Vector2
    local lookVector = char:getLookVector(Vector2.new())
    local lookVX, lookVY = lookVector:getX(), lookVector:getY()

    ---@type Vector2
    local charVector = Vector2.new(char:getX(),char:getY())
    local charVX, charVY = charVector:getX(), charVector:getY()

    local objX = obj:getX()
    local objY = obj:getY()

    ---@type Vector2
    local objVector = Vector2.new(objX-charVX,objY-charVY)
    objVector:normalize()

    local dot = Vector2.dot(objVector:getX(), objVector:getY(), lookVX, lookVY)

    if dot > 0.7 then
        return "FRONT"

    elseif (dot < 0.0 and dot < -0.5) then
        return "BEHIND"

    else
        local lcVX = charVX + lookVX
        local lcVY = charVY + lookVY

        local dotSide = (objX - charVX) * (lcVY - charVY) - (objY - charVY) * (lcVX - charVX)

        return dotSide > 0.0 and "LEFT" or "RIGHT"
    end

    return "WHAT DID YOU DO!?"
end

[polar thicket]

Thank you. This is very helpfull. We indeed are progressing now. We know where to actually properly begin to make our mod now. That and after studying a bunch of other mods and vanilla files

[dark wedge]

---Brought to you by ChuckGPT ha!

[sour island]

you should be able to adjust the values to change the angles too

probably can change it up to check only for left right as well

as it gets weird close up

[dark wedge]

yea, what you have is very close to what i did. I would run into issues with some objects (especially lightswitches where they just add a 0.5), and taking a step forward would just completely break the calculation.

yup, you're seeing what i saw, and why i raged. ha

[sour island]

player's use floating x/ys

maybe that's causing the issue

[dark wedge]

i was thinking the same, however, you need some of that floating point precision

    -- This game is weird man
    ---- I tried to get the angle between the player and the object but its fucking inconsistent because large numbers, AND fucking light switches
    ---- isFacingObject returns a value of 1,-1 and 0 represents it being perpendicular (left OR right)
    ---- This is also SUPER picky, in that moving a step in the same direction can go from 0.4 to -0.1 and below, or in the opposite direction, who knows man.
    ---- So already off, not the best function.  I will revisit this, I am way to tired to do the math right now and don't give a shit.
    ---- This function itself has lost me like 3 days. fuck this for now.
    return not (self.character:isFacingObject(self.item, -0.65))
end```
Is what ended up happening. ![drunk](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/721361533271146537.webp?size=128 "drunk")

[pulsar heath]

well youre not the only one raging with this game while modding

i spent the last 2 days trying to figure out what was wrong with my code

to be informed that my code is right... what im trying to do only half works in mp

half the function im calling works, the other half doesnt... 2 in 1

so awesome 😄

[nova socket]

I had similar issue where I accidentally named one of my interfaces same way as module.

[pulsar heath]

i wish that was my case

it would be easily solved :\

[nova socket]

Thank god to people who made PipeWrench, that saved me a lot of time.

[drifting ore]

lolol i was going to tell you last night after i saw you knew TS

[pulsar heath]

that would be @red tiger i think

[drifting ore]

yep

i passed the eff out

[sour island]

I got a fix

[pulsar heath]

for what problem of the many we are ragin' about?

[red tiger]

Hey bud.

PipeWrench has a discord (my org of projects) btw

[sour island]

for the same tile causing direction issues

[red tiger]

To the grumpy modder from yesterday: this

[dark wedge]

Oh? would love to see what you have if possible please. 🙂

[pulsar heath]

ChuckGPT to the rescue 😄

[sour island]

just testing it some

[nova socket]

Its like you are not even need to know TS in case you don't wanna run it, just get all the exports data to understand more or less about typing for things.

Java-related manuals out there does not seem to be visually friendly unfortunately.

[drifting ore]

i'm interested as i just explained this entire thing to codegpt and it came up with a (solution) based on chucks original code

local function getDotSide(char,obj)
    ---@type Vector2
    local charVector = Vector2.new(char:getX(),char:getY())
    local charVX, charVY = charVector:getX(), charVector:getY()

    local objX = obj:getX()
    local objY = obj:getY()

    ---@type Vector2
    local objVector = Vector2.new(objX-charVX,objY-charVY)
    objVector:normalize()

    ---@type Vector2
    local lookVector = char:getLookVector(Vector2.new())
    lookVector:normalize()

    local dot = Vector2.dot(objVector:getX(), objVector:getY(), lookVector:getX(), lookVector:getY())

    if dot > 0.7 then
        return "FRONT"
    elseif (dot < 0.0 and dot < -0.5) then
        return "BEHIND"
    else
        local cross = Vector2.cross(objVector:getX(), objVector:getY(), lookVector:getX(), lookVector:getY())

        return cross > 0.0 and "LEFT" or "RIGHT"
    end

    return "WHAT DID YOU DO!?"
end

tell me how bad it is

This code normalizes the look and object vectors, so that their length does not affect the dot product and cross product calculations. The cross product is used to determine the side of the character that the object is on, as opposed to using the previous code which used the dot product of the sum of the character and look vectors.

i'm genuinely interested to know

it mat have not written the code itself perfect also

[dark wedge]

That looks correct, the thing is Vector2.cross doesn't exist for this implementation of Vector2

[sour island]

what would cross here even mean?

[dark wedge]

the cross product would give you the answer though

[drifting ore]

ahhh

you may not be able to then without that unless chuck has soem worka round

[dark wedge]

it gives the magnitude (length) of the 2 vectors

[sour island]

---Brought to you by ChuckGPT
---@param char IsoGameCharacter|IsoMovingObject|IsoObject
---@param obj IsoObject
local function getDotSide(char,obj)

    ---@type Vector2
    local lookVector = char:getLookVector(Vector2.new())
    local lookVX, lookVY = lookVector:getX(), lookVector:getY()

    local charX = char:getX()
    local charY = char:getY()

    ---@type Vector2
    local charVector = Vector2.new(charX,charY)
    local charVX, charVY = charVector:getX(), charVector:getY()

    local objX = obj:getX()
    local objY = obj:getY()

    local notSameSpace = objX~=math.floor(charX) and objY~=math.floor(charY)

    ---@type Vector2
    local objVector = Vector2.new(objX-charVX,objY-charVY)
    objVector:normalize()

    local dot = Vector2.dot(objVector:getX(), objVector:getY(), lookVX, lookVY)

    if dot > 0.7 then
        return notSameSpace and "FRONT" or "BEHIND"

    elseif (dot < 0.0 and dot < -0.5) then
        return notSameSpace and "BEHIND" or "FRONT"

    else
        local lcVX = charVX + lookVX
        local lcVY = charVY + lookVY

        local dotSide = (objX - charVX) * (lcVY - charVY) - (objY - charVY) * (lcVX - charVX)

        if dotSide > 0.0 then
            return notSameSpace and "LEFT" or "RIGHT"

        else
            return notSameSpace and "RIGHT" or "LEFT"
        end
    end

    return "WHAT DID YOU DO!?"
end

My solution: if its the same tile - reverse the direction

[drifting ore]

ahaha

chuckgpt

[sour island]

the angle is still bugging me

[dark wedge]

vector2.cross is this, actually: local dotSide = (objX - charVX) * (lcVY - charVY) - (objY - charVY) * (lcVX - charVX)

[sour island]

it's very slightly off

so it didn't do anything lol

[fringe ridge]

Consider me uninformed but what is Pipewrench?

[drifting ore]

lua converted to typescript essentially

then it compiles back to lua

[nova socket]

^ this

[drifting ore]

jab could probably explain WAY more in depth lolol

[sour island]

the fix doesn't work on the different directins 😦

[dark wedge]

That was another issue I ran in to, different objects gave different results for no raisin.

[pulsar heath]

im guessing that not all objects are created equal 😛

so the front for one might be the back for another one

and in the code front and back are refered as the model of the object and not the object placement in the world?

dunno if im translating it to english right... makes sense in portuguese 😄

[sour island]

it's using x/y s

this shouldn't be occuring

[nova socket]

Since Lua has no typings you cannot understand what type that or another argument should be. So if there is no working example and you have to pioneer some stuff, you need to go and read source based on Java exports. PipeWrench utilizes one of the core features of TypeScript - type declarations in one, you can call it a "tree" that some of IDE's like WebStorm or VSCode utilize like own trees. So having that you can understand what exactly that argument type is and how to construct it (in case its more complex type, as IsoSomething) with just few clicks away.

[pulsar heath]

so its relative to the map... it should be the same for all of them then

[pulsar heath]

not wanting to "diminish" the work done with pipewrench i rather deal with lua

not to keen in something that converts the code for me

i rather rage and learn how to do it properly

[nova socket]

Well I'm just 3 days into this game engine and I already messing with a bunch of Iso objects thanks to PipeWrench giving me a light to what they are and some devs here.

[pulsar heath]

plus the fault is not lua's

[drifting ore]

i dont think that's what they are saying though

more that its got some parameters to follow lol

where lua just is just like GOGOGO do whatever you can find

[red tiger]

I'm back

Was on the icy road here.

[nova socket]

As I said you don't really need to even compile Lua on PipeWrench, you can use it as guidance.

[pulsar heath]

@nova socket im happy you got what you wanted sorted out but honestly, no matter how good it is, ill stick to lua

[golden sparrow]

lua's only fault is not being python

[pulsar heath]

er... i prefer lua to python

and i hate lua

[golden sparrow]

lmao

[pulsar heath]

so guess how i feel about python 😄

[golden sparrow]

i'm used to python

so i keep mixing both now that i do both

[red tiger]

You can also see all the API changes in the diffs for commits to PipeWrench.

Everything exposed.

[pulsar heath]

not saying its not a good tool to use, just saying that it depends on your good will to keep updating it everytime something changes in the games "api"

[nova socket]

Lua's only fault is not having switch do

any more takes?

[drifting stump]

how do i request bans

[red tiger]

@pulsar heath You may be grumpy sometimes but you weren't the grumpy guy yesterday who assumed people don't have fun with something like PipeWrench.

[red tiger]

Or continue

[drifting stump]

it has switch

[pulsar heath]

not being grumpy, just stating my personal opinion

[golden sparrow]

I guess you have to live on with people having different opinion

[drifting stump]

just make a table

[pulsar heath]

you have a lot work done there

and you cant say youll be updating it as long as the game goes on

[red tiger]

I've been grumpy lately lol

[red tiger]

You're right because it's automatically updated on GitHub actions.

[pulsar heath]

to use as a learning tool since your documentation is a lot more complete than the oficial ( oficial lol )

yeah 100% ill use and abuse it

but i rather type the code in lua myself

[red tiger]

Please do. It like that.

[pulsar heath]

thats all im saying

[red tiger]

My documentation is generated and compiles all usages of the same method signatures.

[pulsar heath]

not trying to undermine the value of your project

[red tiger]

I don't think that you are.

[pulsar heath]

good, sometimes thinking in 1 language and typing in another can lead to... lost in translation meanings

😄

[red tiger]

I probably wrote somewhere between 20-30k lines of Lua for PZ.

I know TS way better than Lua.

[pulsar heath]

even pascal is better than lua

and thats been obsolete for about 30 years or more

😛

[red tiger]

I have this.. problem right now.

This problem.. is that my brain won't stop thinking about to code a transpiler from Lua to full-blown TS implemented code.

[pulsar heath]

mine keeps naggin' me about not being able to make the zombies act like a wandering horde in mp

still thinking about it... and all the solutions that come to mind = writing a huge wall of code...

[red tiger]

It's not impractical to convert the Lua codebase into full Typescript.

.. and that's why I'm slightly bothered lol.

I can't explain it to myself in a way that says it's not.

Because I wrote PipeWrench, I know how to do it.

[pulsar heath]

hmm i think i have a possible solution... gonna test it out

[red tiger]

This is how PipeWrench literally started as a project.. I couldn't unjustify it. God damnit..

[pulsar heath]

nop doesnt work

was hoping i could move them to a square instead of the player

[dark wedge]

hooray. first pass of another offhand animation is done. needs more tweaks (like the item's rotation in swing), but forward progress is always good:

[pulsar heath]

hmmm

gratz

i wonder if ```local function ZombieToPlayer(zombie)
local targetsq = player:getCurrentSquare();
if targetsq == nil then return; end
local x,y,z = targetsq:getX(), targetsq:getY() , targetsq:getZ();
zombie:pathToLocationF(x, y ,z);
end

this might work

or not...

im even afraid to try and start ragin' again 😐

or i could just use the player x y directly...

it sound to simple to work...

gonna try it anyway

[sour island]

question @dark wedge does mouse x/y matter in your case for animations?

rather than using the object's xy

unless you're supporting using E to hit lights

[dark wedge]

no, mouse x/y doesn't matter, i just used the object itself. the base game doesn't support lights with "E", but I COULD in my mod (its commented out right now), so that would need the object itself too

[sour island]

E doesnt work on lights?

[pulsar heath]

in vanilla nop

[dark wedge]

nope. i thought about adding support for that and the other objects (like ovens) with "E".

but with a mouse its not as important, so didn't

[golden sparrow]

Nice, do you think you'll be able to implement the slow in attack speed when your left arm is hurt ?

[pulsar heath]

so i can get a zombie list on the player cell like so
ZedList = player:getCell():getZombieList() right?

[ancient grail]

Yes

[golden sparrow]

Oh that's really cool

I thought it was hardcoded in java or smthing

[ancient grail]

Try to check type()

Using debug

[ancient grail]

For this one

[dark wedge]

Yup! And the attack speed is hardcoded so i just ported the way the vanilla calculates the attack speed to Lua, and do it myself for the left arm. 🙂 Trying to make it as seamless as possible so its not OP

[pulsar heath]

        local zombie = ZedList:get(i);
            if (zombie:isDead()) then
                zombie:pathToLocation(x, y ,z)
            end
  end
    ```

something like this i guess

[sour island]

I refactored the code a bit, and got left/right somewhat reliable but lost front/back lol

[golden sparrow]

lmao

[ancient grail]

Lol last one bit me
Anyways
I used xml

[golden sparrow]

I do this IRL too

[ancient grail]

Nodified xml

Modified

[golden sparrow]

Casually one shoting everything around

[ancient grail]

No im punching

[ancient grail]

ChuckGPT lol

Good one

You woukd have nodify the properties or ag of thay tile you mentioned

[pulsar heath]

i thought the player object add isdead in it

[ancient grail]

You can either do it by lua

or by tiledef.
upload a modified tiledef with that tile as its own thing its redefining

[pulsar heath]

but it doesnt dang it

[ancient grail]

For lua you probably need a listener for your swing and equiped knife
Then it will change the tile in front of you by editing its properties

[ancient grail]

isAlive()

[sour island]

I've been slowly pulling apart the called functions

seems like you can mess around with angles and stuff - setlength and such

should be able to solve the front/behind/left/right problem

the angle it thinks the player is looking is ever so slightly off tho

[pulsar heath]

im being dumb

[ancient grail]

I wasnt able to watch this earlier.
So its printing mouse from screen to world?

Is it following the mouse?

Based on characters faced direction

[pulsar heath]

this local ZedList = player:getCell():getZombieList() already gets the zombies

[sour island]

it's grabbing the clicked on mapobject

[ancient grail]

[pulsar heath]

and its all zombie.characters.IsoZombie

[ancient grail]

Wizardry

[pulsar heath]

while the player is zombie.characters.IsoPlayer

right?

[ancient grail]

idk abt that why do you need to know this

All i known to use is by checking instanceof

[bronze yoke]

that's right

[ancient grail]

if instanceof(something, "IsoPlayer") then blahblan end

[pulsar heath]

so something like this

for i=0, ZedList:size()-1 do
    local zombie = ZedList:get(i);
    local x,y,z = player:getX(), player:getY() , player:getZ();
    zombie:pathToLocationF(x, y ,z);
end
``` might work

[ancient grail]

I theres a function to get the closteet zed

[pulsar heath]

and if i use the zombiesinoutfit and dressed them all the same

i can probably use that to only send the zombies spawned... i think

[ancient grail]

Pathtolocation wi make them walk there

Will^

??

[pulsar heath]

thats what i hope it will happen dunno

gonna try it out

[ancient grail]

This is also i thiught before

[nova socket]

Why not store them in array and reference to it?

Or is it out of your scope?

[pulsar heath]

ZedList...

contains all the zombies in the ceel

cell

where the player is

[nova socket]

I mean if you spawn some of them manually..

If its in generic pool then yes.

[red tiger]

mmm.. generics in Lua.

Haha

[pulsar heath]

er...

[ancient grail]

He has a point

[pulsar heath]

ill probably will just go with spawn zombies in a square

[ancient grail]

His saying you spawn em then you can capture its id as you spawn them

[pulsar heath]

get that square zombies list and send them to the player xyz

[ancient grail]

Have you seen how the horde event does it

It has a github

[pulsar heath]

dont think that works in mp

[ancient grail]

Horde event? It does

We used thos before for our server before making the server pure pvp

It even sends each player a say command containing the direction of where the zed is going to spawn

[pulsar heath]

hmmm link pls

[ancient grail]

Ok sure hold on

[pulsar heath]

is it the horde night mod?

it was broken last time i tried it

[ancient grail]

https://steamcommunity.com/linkfilter/?url=https://github.com/spoutnickgp/zomboid-mod-here-they-come

https://github.com/spoutnickgp/zomboid-mod-here-they-come

[wet sandal]

Anyone know what i need to do to connect with debug mode on to a server?

[ancient grail]

you have access to rcon? @wet sandal

[wet sandal]

rcon?

[ancient grail]

If you do
Even if your player isnt born yet
You can just setaccesslevel that username

[wet sandal]

Its a local server

[ancient grail]

RCON yes

Ahh

I never had a problem for local host

Idk ehy that is happening to you

[pulsar heath]

but if its a local dedicated you still need the rcon access

[nova socket]

Networking question: Does sendObjectChange send mod data too?

[wet sandal]

local dedicated, yes

[pulsar heath]

you have to set your login account on the server as admin

so youll need the rcon to do that

[ancient grail]

For me, this is a mysterious thing but i just used whenever my reference vanilla file does

[ancient grail]

What no you dont you can just enter with debug.. idk why its like that for him

[wet sandal]

Ah, I just nuked the DB and restarting the server prompted setup again

That'll probably do it

Yea its working now

That DB was probably sitting there since build 40 tbh

[ancient grail]

Wizzardry

[pulsar heath]

yeah this mod is spawning the zombies and sending them the way i was thinking about doing

dresses them all the same

and sends all the zombies in a location to the player xyz

[ancient grail]

U just need 1 inventory item

Im curous to see if this work

[pulsar heath]

it spawns 1 by 1...

hmm i see why

[drifting ore]

you can use clothes also they said

[ancient grail]

U gona spawn em with a logo on their forehead that looks liks barcode
Then sheep herd them into into one table then send em running to the player

[drifting ore]

outfits

[pulsar heath]

thats what im trying to do

[drifting ore]

oh hell yea

[ancient grail]

Ye

[drifting ore]

you are killin it with that dude

[pulsar heath]

im gonna make a horde of thong zombies atack the streamer

[drifting ore]

slappin away most of the day

[pulsar heath]

😄

[ancient grail]

https://tenor.com/view/sas-evil-gif-26310062

Do it!!!!!!!!

And his spawning it to attack himself lol

Does the square:Explode() work?

[golden sparrow]

No idea

square:StartFire don't

[ancient grail]

local function OnZombieDeath(zed)
zed:getSquare():explode()
end

Events.OnZombieDeath.Add(OnZombieDeath)```

You are doomed i tell ya if that works and you add it

Suicide bombers lol

[fast galleon]

        IsoFireManager.StartFire(square:getCell(), square, true, 100, 0)
        IsoFireManager.explode(square:getCell(), square, 10)

best called on server side

[drifting ore]

if i'm trying to target an object in the world (lightswitch) do i have to do it by sprite? or can i use CustomName? i tried using getProperties.Val("CustomName = ".."Switch") which is the custom name of the tile itself

[sudden wing]

Hi guys, quick question, am I allowed to upload a mod I just uploaded to this chat? or where should I post it?

[sour island]

anyone know how to determine mouse pos x/y with in a square?

I tried looking through the placeitem cursor thing

[fast galleon]

steam preferable, link here

[sour island]

the cursor ui makes reference to joypad position

[fast galleon]

if you put a rar, obout 99% people won't touch it

[sudden wing]

Oh yes, I uploaded it to the steam workshop

[fast galleon]

who needs this?

[sudden wing]

I wouldn't blame em hehe, thanks! here it is, I hope that anyone who sees it likes it 🙂 https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2927454765

[pulsar heath]

yeah hes doing it kind of the way i was thinking

[fast galleon]

looks interesting

[pulsar heath]

but in a smarter way

dang

[drifting ore]

do you use a seperate hotkey for activating the lightsabers?

or do they come out when you pull out

[pulsar heath]

he even makes the zombies dress according to the area where they spawn

[sudden wing]

Seperate, by default you activate and deactivate the light saber with Z, but you can change it in settings

[drifting ore]

sweet. just wanted to be sure. i use a mod from someone here that also has them and they work exactly the same. nice job btw. when done right, these look really good in the game. kudos

[ancient grail]

Everyone lol

[sudden wing]

Thanks! I really enjoyed making it, it was really fun and I think it does look awesome, especially at night

[fast galleon]

@ancient grail

[sacred matrix]

I coded Anthro Survivors. Anthro Survivors defines a custom body location, but Zeds don't render that. To get around this when you die I swap out a 'Fur' body part clothing for a 'Bandage' body part clothing. (I personally didn't create an Anthro Zeds mod because trying to get zombies to spawn with bandages (and only one of them) is a nightmare, and I have very high QA standards)

[ancient grail]

Hmm i saw this before. Like maybe on the worldcontextmenu

[ancient grail]

Noted

[pulsar heath]

????

[sudden wing]

Oh, mb, I thought you said that to me

[ancient grail]

Whats true, 10, 0)
And
10)

@fast galleon

[last flax]

Greetings dear people, I wrote this message with the intention of hiring the services of a modder, I need to create a script to add another pair of rear wheels to a vehicle, a truck specifically, for more information you can write to me in DM and so we can also talk on price.
Thanks.

[fast galleon]

https://projectzomboid.com/modding/zombie/iso/objects/IsoFireManager.html

[ancient grail]

explode(IsoCell cell, IsoGridSquare gridSquare, int power)

Wtf is power? Ahh probably the duration of the fire cuz it eventually dies
Can think of it as hp

I hope

[sour island]

@dark wedge - got it accurate to within the same tile

[drifting ore]

wow

you are literally chuckgpt for real

[pulsar heath]

lol

[ancient grail]

Would probably be a good effect if i add nozzle flare code
And make the ground burnt but will revert after a few seconds
Wait what am i saying . Lol just got the idea of doing this mod 😂 nooooooo

[sour island]

I have a tendency to get fixated, I decided to just focus on directing that fixation

[ancient grail]

Damn deserves a name change

[dark wedge]

oh man, you're still going. i love it.

[pulsar heath]

i tend to rage...

a lot

[faint jewel]

when does something pass from comedy into blasphemy?

[drifting ore]

when it hurts 😄

[fast galleon]

I'd have to recheck the code to be sure. I think the one use of this had power 9000 (exploding generator). I use it as chance to start fire around?

[sour island]

---Brought to you by ChuckGPT
---@param char IsoPlayer|IsoGameCharacter|IsoMovingObject|IsoObject
local function getDotSide(char,mouseX,mouseY)

    ---@type Vector2
    local lookVector = char:getLookVector(Vector2.new())
    local lookVX, lookVY = lookVector:getX(), lookVector:getY()
    
    local charX, charY, charZ, charNum = char:getX(), char:getY(), char:getZ(), char:getPlayerNum()
    
    ---@type Vector2
    local charVector = Vector2.new(charX,charY)
    local charVX, charVY = charVector:getX(), charVector:getY()

    local objX = screenToIsoX(charNum, mouseX, mouseY, charZ)
    local objY = screenToIsoY(charNum, mouseX, mouseY, charZ)

    ---@type Vector2
    local objVector = Vector2.new(objX-charVX,objY-charVY)
    objVector:normalize()

    local dot = Vector2.dot(objVector:getX(), objVector:getY(), lookVX, lookVY)

    local results = ""

    if dot > 0.0 then
        results = results.. "FRONT"
    else--if (dot < 0.0 and dot < -0.5) then
        results = results.. "BEHIND"
    end

    results = results.."|"

    local lcVX, lcVY = charVX + lookVX, charVY + lookVY
    local dotSide = (objX - charVX) * (lcVY - charVY) - (objY - charVY) * (lcVX - charVX)

    if dotSide > 0.0 then
        results = results.. "LEFT"
    else
        results = results.. "RIGHT"
    end

    return results, ""..dot.."|"..dotSide
end

require "ISObjectClickHandler"
local ISObjectClickHandler_doClick = ISObjectClickHandler.doClick
function ISObjectClickHandler.doClick(object, x, y)

    ---@type IsoPlayer|IsoGameCharacter
    local player = getPlayer()
    local results, dotText = getDotSide(player, x, y)

    player:Say(getMapObjectName(object))
    player:Say(results)
    player:Say(dotText)
    player:Say(" pXY:"..player:getX()..", "..player:getY())
    player:Say(" oXY:"..object:getX()..", "..object:getY())

    ISObjectClickHandler_doClick(object, x, y)
end

Weirdly ISObjectClickHandler is in server

I had previously separated the front / side

but that can be re-merged with the old math

[faint jewel]

soooo blasphemy or no?

[sour island]

doesn't actually use the object btw - uses the mouseX/Y

in order to use the isoObject directly you'd have to determine where its visually located which... would be tedious as all hell

[ancient grail]

U religious?

[sour island]

light switches for example would have to be given a X/Y that is adjusted depending on their direction - so not really recommended - unless you can easily identify what's on a wall or not - but even smaller stuff like mailboxes would cause issues too

[dark wedge]

unfortunately, i'll have to incorporate that at some point though, and that's where i got stuck. have to support controllers to....

[sour island]

this should already get controllers if I'm not wrong

[dark wedge]

oh? does the click handler work for that?

[sour island]

the x/y fed into it should match joypad's x/y is all

you don't need the click handler code at all

just need to feed it the right information

[faint jewel]

no, just wanna know the level of hate this is gonna bring.

[dark wedge]

oh. misread it, forgive me. am at work so using the phone. ha

[ancient grail]

Or isnt religous

[sour island]

no worries - click handler would be ok for lightswitches but the crux of the code just needs the interacted x/y mouse or joypad

the issue was math wise it needs a float

using whole numbers for that breaks the math with angles

you'd have to I guess subtract 0.5 for x/y to get the center of the tile

but that doesn't work for lightswitches and differently sized items

so I'm hoping you'll just need cursor x/y

[pulsar heath]

my brain... it hurts

at least whats left of it

😄

[dark wedge]

I'll definitely play with this some more later. Thanks again!!

[sour island]

np

I liked your animation work 😉

[pulsar heath]

im even gonna stop messing around with my mod before i break it...

gonna mess around in the app... i feel more at home there...

[ancient grail]

Lol i remember earliers 117

[pulsar heath]

time to pimp up the UI

[nova socket]

Is there a way to set world IsoObject not being able to picked up?

[ancient grail]

You gave up?! Cuz of the math?

Ow wait thats diffeent

[ancient grail]

Injure the player hahaha

Hahaha

[pulsar heath]

just stoping for a bit and working with some code that i actually know what im doing

[nova socket]

I mean I see setNoPicking(arg0: boolean): void; in IsoObject but how reliable that is?

[sour island]

I'm by no means a smart guy, just patient 😅

[ancient grail]

Whe. They pick up stuff they get injured lol

[sour island]

still have no clue how the math works

[nova socket]

You sadist.

[ancient grail]

Hahaha

[pulsar heath]

at least it works 🙂

[ancient grail]

Anyways one of the nethod people use is settitng the wweight to 1k

But if that doesnt work then maybe once you pick it up just have em drop it again

[nova socket]

So it cannot fit a priory I see.

Yeah, I'll check out that method IsoObject has and see if it has any reliability.

[ancient grail]

Theres no event to catch items that are picked up

You could however try your luck looking at looting related lua and the containers related lua

Long files tho

☕

Here you get the biggest coffee you will need this

[sour island]

you're making me want coffee

[ancient grail]

Its 6am here lol

[sour island]

5pm here

[dark wedge]

I think this is absolutely hilarious, and personally have 0 problems with it. However, maybe "KFZ" would be better? Z for zombie. i don't want you to be downvoted to oblivion because of some religious nuts who can't take a joke....

[ancient grail]

Or use spiffo

SFC

[nova socket]

nope unfortunately IsoObject:setNoPicking(true) or false doesn't stop from players being able to pick up world objects.

[ancient grail]

Worldobjects! Ithought inventory

Ye you have to mess with he vanilla code and look for that pickup context menu block it into a state uselessness

And smile as you watch players go nuts

If they craft a crate and accidentally trap thenselves
Send a servermsg this is how you died

[nova socket]

Played a few servers where people screamed about wipes due to players grabbing some loot world containers away like military boxes.. thought to make a minor mod just for that.

[ancient grail]

Just delete the bin

It will recover

Or use lockcontainers api by the great chuckgpt

[nova socket]

I mean why not try to find a countermeasure, rather than doing a measure

[ancient grail]

And add a nosledge cant be disabbled and canpickup not sure if thats a thing tho

[ancient grail]

my second atm mod has this

[drifting ore]

this has to be possible

it's already been done before from bikini i believe

[ancient grail]

Iment my syntax

[drifting ore]

ahh

[ancient grail]

Im afk so couldnt check

[tawdry moss]

how do you get a single zombie in a horde spawned with addZombiesInOutfit()? It spawns the zombie just fine but returns an arraylist of the zombies in the horde and I can't figure out how to get a single zombie entity from it

[bronze wing]

Hey uh

[faint jewel]

that's a bit TOO on the nose.

[bronze wing]

Anyone here a good modeler?

[faint jewel]

who would eat friend zombie??

[bronze wing]

Specifically zombie models

Maybe somebody here could help with a passion server

[ancient grail]

#modeling

[faint jewel]

XD

[nova socket]

I think I found the way..

So..

[faint jewel]

i think it looks good.

[ancient grail]

Enlighten me

[nova socket]

local function OnObjectAboutToBeRemoved(object)
    print(object);
end

Events.OnObjectAboutToBeRemoved.Add(OnObjectAboutToBeRemoved)

^ This triggers on every cursor movement when you hover with anything like Pick Up
And..

function ISMoveableCursor.exitCursorKey( _key )
    if getCell() and getCell():getDrag(0) and getCell():getDrag(0).Type and getCell():getDrag(0).Type == "ISMoveableCursor" then
        local disable = false;
        if not _key then
            disable = true;
        else
            if getCore():getKey("Run") == _key then
                disable = true;
            elseif getCore():getKey("Interact") == _key then
                disable = true;
            end
        end

        if disable then
            getCell():setDrag(nil, 0);
        end
    end
end

Guess how you can use both?

[ancient grail]

Did that work i thought it was obsolete

[nova socket]

Not sure.

Thats only theory about to be tested

But anyways there should be something actual that does that Pick Up tool cancellation.

[ancient grail]

getCell():setDrag()
?

I mean im not sure if this is possible
Or if its ever a good idea

[nova socket]

Doesn't stop from disassembling thou

Since its in a context too and works on proximity

[ancient grail]

Look for the disable code

[fast galleon]

"^ This triggers on every cursor movement when you hover with anything like Pick Up
And.."
what?

[nova socket]

ill see if thats it getCell():setDrag(nil, 0);

[nova socket]

Detect object name and stop Pick Up action by cancelling it. Solves my question about making some world objects not being able to moved at all

[fast galleon]

yes, after you select object to remove.

not before

[ancient grail]

Can you paste your reference here

[drifting ore]

holy shit am i way behinde

yes i am

[ancient grail]

Wdym

Ow why did you remove it

[drifting ore]

oh ais it still relevent

is it

-- supply player, square of object, isoobject, ISMoveableSpriteProps
-- if valid returns ISMoveableSpriteProps otherwise nil
function ISMoveableTools.canPlayerPickUpMoveable( _char, _square, _object, _moveProps )
    if _square and _char and _object and _moveProps then
        if _moveProps and _moveProps:canPickUpMoveable( _char, _square, _object ) then
            return _moveProps;
        end
    end
    return nil;
end

pretty much the same for object

[ancient grail]

Ye you forgot to reference the vanilla and made a new function called old

[drifting ore]

i thought he mentioned ways to cancel pickup

i'm pretty sure it's in the ismoveabletools

[ancient grail]

Ah this is the vanila

Ok ok lol

[drifting ore]

yes

[fast galleon]

I believe it's as simple as ~ getSpriteManager():getSprite("..."):getProperties():UnSet("Moveable") not exact command

[ancient grail]

I dont see the check function thats where u want to hook

Like as it validates if it can be picked up
Just put false on the true

Im sure this will work 💯

[zinc pilot]

hey, is the workshop having problems? I'm not able to push an update

[drifting ore]

I was trying to find the best way to find the lightswitch and i think if i make a table of the sprites this will work

[zinc pilot]

function: updateWhenVisible -- file: WorkshopSubmitScreen.lua line # 1125 | Vanilla
function: render -- file: WorkshopSubmitScreen.lua line # 1164 | Vanilla```
Getting this error too

[ancient grail]

Sorry no idea

And yo pao i asked you abt the fence mod but u missed it..
Did you use lua or tiledef?

[ancient grail]

Try to verify files

[fast galleon]

seems fine, people complaining, etc

[drifting ore]

this will work for me in a couple way also thank you

[zinc pilot]

oh sorry I missed it

lua, tiledef were no use after all

[zinc pilot]

already did :\

[fast galleon]

if you use it for something different, be careful

[ancient grail]

So what did you do instead if not one of those

[sour island]

testing out EHE on a mp server - I'm so sorry everyone

this is what I put you guys through

[zinc pilot]

https://github.com/ZioPao/Destroyable-World-Fences

Basically used MOTrap as a base

replaced instances of that tile with mine

during world gen

or chunk generation or whatever you wanna call it

[tawdry moss]

Is it possible to apply postprocessing/filters to the screen? Like temporarily make everything more saturated/vibrant or slowly fade to black&white?

[azure rivet]

Hello, I want to remove the option of a weapon that can be equipped in the main hand, I just want to leave the option for it to be equipped in the second hand.
I don´t make it.

[ancient grail]

Wow this is amazing @zinc pilot congrats

[zinc pilot]

just had a hunch and it worked, got lucky

also someone suggested to take a look at it

[ancient grail]

This is game changing man

[fast galleon]

prob me, it's part of global object system

[zinc pilot]

I think it was you that suggested MOTrap as a possible solution, yeah

[ancient grail]

Probably polt ye.

[zinc pilot]

I don't remember if I already said thanks 😄

[fast galleon]

search for glytch3r and context notAvailable

[ancient grail]

Lol join the club.

Same thing if you read past convo about pickup

But instead of onfilleworld
Use inventory

[zinc pilot]

Rebooting steam always works, dumb ol' me

[ancient grail]

Didnt work lol

[fast galleon]

yeah can't find it, how did you type it

[nova socket]

Easiest but sloppiest way is to unequip item or re-equip item forcefully on equip event. Mod like More Traits does that with its Amputee perk. It makes item being dropped when one of the missing hand is used.

[ancient grail]

#mod_development message

Found it

Albions msg

[zinc pilot]

I miss searching in forums

[ancient grail]

Mentions:

[fast galleon]

here

[ancient grail]

Did this work? I never tried that. Thnx

[zinc pilot]

yeah, sometimes steam just wanna get in the way

not the first time something like this happened

[ancient grail]

Ow yeaaah

[azure rivet]

I am informed that a last update added to the context "removeOptionByName"

I've tried to implement it, but I can't find much information about it.

[drifting ore]

@azure rivet this is literally it exactly in use

[ancient grail]

It sounds like you want to remove cuz what we did was substitute in reality but it looks like we just disabled it

Reason for doing that is so that people wont think theres a bug and ask question wht theycant drink
Or cigarettes are broken or e
Whatetver

[azure rivet]

Yeah, I am watching it now.

[nova socket]

Yes, no.

[fast galleon]

da net

[tawdry moss]

how do you get the zombie entity of a single zombie in a horde spawned with addZombiesInOutfit()? It spawns the zombie just fine but returns an arraylist of the zombies in the horde and I can't figure out how to get a single zombie entity from the arraylist

[nova socket]

local function OnObjectAboutToBeRemoved(object)
    print(object);
end

Events.OnObjectAboutToBeRemoved.Add(OnObjectAboutToBeRemoved)

prints object before any action is applied. So "Yes, no"

Not after

[ancient grail]

Wasnt this answered..? Guess not. Cuz m3ss went offline

[fast galleon]

https://github.com/FWolfe/Zomboid-Modding-Guide/blob/master/api/README.md

[humble oriole]

Does anyone know what controls the order the of the tabs in the crafting menu? I thought they'd be alphabetical, but it doesn't seem like it. It seems to be just kinda random.

[tawdry moss]

I asked and it got buried

[ancient grail]

According to what loads first im guessing
Why is it relevant? Whatcha building ?
@humble oriole

[tawdry moss]

Thanks. :get(index) is what I needed

[humble oriole]

It doesn't seem to be load order either, it just seems rather arbitrary. We have admin shops on our server and we'd like them near the front of the list, instead of buried after all of KI5's tabs haha.

seems like they're just thrown in there

[nova socket]

@ancient grail getCell():setDrag(nil, 0); cancels the Pick Up or any similar panel action, however it somehow doesn't fire from within an event function.

[sour island]

could be a pairs() in the UI

that'd have no order though

[ancient grail]

Cuz it loads slow?
Hmmm...

[fast galleon]

you can check ISCraftingUI ?, panel for how it makes the tabs

[sour island]

k15 might also be inserting it after a specific tab

[ancient grail]

OnMouseMove?

[fast galleon]

try adding message like "OnObjectAboutToBeRemoved"

[ancient grail]

Thats what he is using now

He needs something else

[sour island]

o..o

[fast galleon]

^_^

[ancient grail]

Omg threads! Nice

[sour island]

when was that added and how do they work

[nova socket]

local function OnObjectAboutToBeRemoved(object)
    getCell():setDrag(nil, 0);
end

Events.OnObjectAboutToBeRemoved.Add(OnObjectAboutToBeRemoved)

This somehow doesn't fire at all. I'll figure out why. Might have to set some bool and route it outside to cancel action.

[fast galleon]

I just started replying and it suggested that

[sour island]

from here?

[ancient grail]

Threads a thing!! Quick lets make guides and topics with references

[sour island]

You should thread your giant wall of stuff

[ancient grail]

And snippets!

Sure

[sour island]

can you delete threads though

[fast galleon]

yes

[ancient grail]

Aw theres expiration to threads

Bummer

[sour island]

aw?

[fast galleon]

@ancient grail for annotated maps there's map editor in-game

[ancient grail]

Ahh

How do you use that

Lol

Link for the community api pls @sour island

Useful Utils, Helpers, Api, frameworks

[sour island]

https://github.com/Project-Zomboid-Community-Modding/pz-community-modding

[nova socket]

Can sandbox option be string?

[red tiger]

PipeWrench pls

[ancient grail]

Yes im looking for jt

[red tiger]

Kind of hard to uhh link only one thing for it lol

[ancient grail]

It i added your server command
What abt sledgehammer

[red tiger]

that's not operational so it wouldn't work out of the box.

I'd need to finish the rewrite for it.

I don't know if people would want a plugin-framework for Java modding PZ servers in 2023.

[ancient grail]

I posted the template

[red tiger]

https://github.com/asledgehammer/PipeWrench
https://github.com/asledgehammer/PipeWrench-Template

[ancient grail]

Ye kets just keep it there if anyones interested they will ask you

[red tiger]

As is tradition.

[nova socket]

Should I post a non-mod function to debug sprites with context menu?

[red tiger]

The damn thing is growing to be like Apache Commons for PZ at this point.

[ancient grail]

What

Ahhh o yeah why not

[nova socket]

k

[ancient grail]

try to catch the sprite

You can use AuD too

[sour island]

AuD?

[ancient grail]

Ye aiteron tho you need to modify it to show the names

[sour island]

what about debug tools 😦

[ancient grail]

Is the debug mod ur doing the community api or something else

[sour island]

yes

[ancient grail]

I thought you arent done with that lol makes sense now

I didnt know it was the same cuz community sounded like a colab proj

[sour island]

it's an on-going thing

it is a colab but the tools can be used as is

[ancient grail]

Ow yeah remembered another useful thing the ui samples

[sour island]

ui samples?

[ancient grail]

Wasnt there a tool to put stuff on the wiki or something

[nova socket]

Wiki is editable as is isn't it?

[sour island]

My next goal is to allow linking to objects listed

so you can jump around

[bronze yoke]

you can't edit the event pages, everything else should be fine

[red tiger]

I kinda want to work on the wiki.

[sour island]

Some of it can be automated, and they need the help

[red tiger]

I don't know who automates as much as I do when it comes to modding hahaha

[bronze yoke]

i've got a pr for the mistakes i've noticed but i don't think the github is monitored anymore

[sour island]

There was a guy touting he could help them so much by extracting data from the game's files for on the fly updating - but then he dipped 😦

[red tiger]

PW checks daily for updates to PZ and then pushes those changes. My transpilers generates docs. That info might be useful.

[ancient grail]

Bummer that could have been super useful

[red tiger]

I also have a JSON format / app for 3rd-party documentation of PZ API.

[ancient grail]

Jump around? Like teleport? Jumper by burryaga is like that

[sour island]

no, like click the object line in the UI and it loads that object

[ancient grail]

Without the obj just coordinates

Ahhh

[drifting stump]

ooooo threads happened while i was gone

[ancient grail]

Link pls

[ancient grail]

Yep added your radial

[red tiger]

I am revising the original schema / version of it but here's my example of partially documenting UIElement:

[drifting stump]

thats going to get merged into the community framework

with some changes and improvements

[sour island]

😮

radialAPI?

[drifting stump]

i mean yeah already did it mostly a copy paste into the framework

[ancient grail]

Ye i feel like everythings mucheasier for those who plans to start modding

[red tiger]

My format needs to support both Java and Lua documentation.

Soooo yeah.

[ancient grail]

What abt the css mod

[drifting stump]

but remove globals make the api for custom radials and finish the slice interactions

[red tiger]

WIP. I plan to return to it. More important works came up.

[drifting stump]

like efficient remove without entirely unregistering

and ordering

say for example i want my slice to ideally be 3rd

[ancient grail]

Anyone knows the sqlite tool for db management

[sour island]

Oh i know one

[red tiger]

HeidiSQL is my fav.

[sour island]

https://sqlitebrowser.org/dl/

[red tiger]

DB something is another one I used.

Yeah that one.

[sour island]

this lets you run scripts

[drifting stump]

the dbs arent really usable

[red tiger]

I use HeidiSQL at my work even though they use MySQL Workbench.

[dark wedge]

$ sqlite3 /path/to/sqlite.db 😆

[sour island]

helped djackz with his hardcore escape server

[drifting stump]

they dump serialized java objects into collumns

[ancient grail]

What abt that ssr java . Anyone tried that

Not sure how it works

[red tiger]

As someone who sometimes designs db stuff.. uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

(runs away)

[drifting stump]

hi there fellow db user

currently learning db2

[sour island]

I've used https://sqlitebrowser.org/dl/ and it works - not sure what you'd need to do

you can make commands to run purges

[red tiger]

I once modded the server to run on MongoDB.. because can.

A buddy of mine has a full SQL server running for his community.

[nova socket]

For what purpose?

[red tiger]

Removing the drag on IO among other things..

A very promising experiment.

I also have private repos for managing the protocol layer documentation and file formats in markdown.

(It's nice to know what's going on with how the game communicates and read/writes)

[nova socket]

You didn't waste your time I see))

[red tiger]

I think so too. =) Having fun isn't wasting time.

[rain shard]

Hey guys, anyone know where the ZombRand function is defined? I'm trying to figure out why it's spitting out more than 1 entry in the array so I gotta check I'm actually using the params right.

[red tiger]

zombie.Lua.LuaManager$GlobalObject#ZombRand()..

[sour island]

ZombRand starts at 0 and is exclusive of n

[rain shard]

so my assumption was correct...

[sour island]

ZombRand(n) where n = number of digits, so (3) = 0,1,2

[rain shard]

so it behaves like a regular rand(), got it. back to figuring out what went wrong with this array then

ty all

[sour island]

ZombRand can also have 2 params, but that just adjusts the min

[red tiger]

Gib Medium quality PRNG pls.

ZombRand still uses a high-quality PRNG atm IIRC.

[rain shard]

the first param is the min, the second the max, right?

[sour island]

if you're using an array you don't have to adjust the number as it's 0-n as well, if you're using a lua table you'll have to do ZombRand(n)+1

[sour island]

max is still exclusive afaik

[rain shard]

hrmm okay

[nova socket]

hehe

[rain shard]

Thank you for the quick explanation Chuckleberry!

[nova socket]

gonna call that mod "Cant touch this"
Anyone hearing music already?

[red tiger]

Time to build another Lua transpiler.. :D

[ancient grail]

How are they going to transfer stuff if canttouchthis then return end

[sour island]

😮

I done did it

got the inspect UI to link references

breaking a bit trying to load non existent modData tho

this should let you hop around by references

eventually I want to add an editor

not sure how bad that'd break stuff but it's for debugging so