mod_development

[jaunty marten]

doing code already for a long time but my brain still can turn off with it

hah

[thick karma]

[jaunty marten]

waw, what server is it from?

mb u have mods conflict

different professions/traits mods creates same profession/trait and both handles it but one of them can't wait for some condition due to second mod override it

[solid dawn]

where did you see this?

@jaunty marten

[jaunty marten]

I didn't see anything it's just my guess

[wet sandal]

I need to start writing some like that.
Reads beautifully.

[solid dawn]

oh 😦 No thats not it.. I am not running any other mods that add traits/professions besides my own

[jaunty marten]

why I can't read it easily..

[jaunty marten]

u have started the game with only ur mod, right?

there's literally cannot be any conflict?

[solid dawn]

yes

other people reported the same issue as well both with out without other mods

this is frustrating if I at least had the logs tell me whats the problem

[jaunty marten]

just look at ur code and try to find potential code that can start infinity loops

[thick karma]

Sekiro. One of the best action games ever.

Chuck suggested it may not be that because Zomboid can catch infinite loops.

So that could be a dead end

[jaunty marten]

thanks

[jaunty marten]

lua can catch infinity calls > will throw stack overflow

function a() a() end

a()

but if it's exactly loop then will freeze forever

without any error

so this m8 have problem with some loop

[thick karma]

I seeeeee

Thanks for clarifying

I was preeetty sure I crashed myself once on an infinite loop but I'm not trying to make a habit out of it lol

[small topaz]

So I made a minimal example managing those global mod data via server-client-communication. What I want to do: initialize some global mod data on server side and write them to the player's mod data for each client. The example is this:

Any ideas whether this will work correctly in multiplayer? Is this the supposed way to handle those global mod data?

typo in the client code: there should be one globalData["b"] in the if-condition...

I think there are even a few more typos (forgot and "end" in the server code, just ignore! 😅 )

[thick karma]

Hey I'm gonna be busy for a bit but if you stay stuck you can DM me the link and I'll take a look later.

[drifting ore]

i am stumped and it's probably me being clueless but when i use

self.character:getPerkLevel(Perks.Electricity)

it returns null on prefillworldobjectcntextmenu

anyone have any idea why?

local function readorNot()
    local bookLevel = SandboxVars.Nipswitch.Booklevel
    local zapLevel = self.character:getPerkLevel(Perks.Electricity);
    local lowLevel = bookLevel <= zapLevel
    local goodlevel = bookLevel >= zapLevel
    local menus = {
        context:addOption(getText("ContextMenu_One", self.invMenu)),
        context:addOption(getText("ContextMenu_Two", self.invMenu)),
        context:addOption(getText("ContextMenu_Three", self.invMenu))}
    local txtRandom = ZombRand(3);
    local selectedMenu = menus[txtRandom + 1]
    if lowLevel then
        selectedMenu()
        for _, menu in pairs(menus) do
            menu.notAvailable = true
        end
    elseif goodlevel then
        local totally = context:addOption(getText("ContextMenu_Four", self.invMenu))
        totally.notAvailable = false
        local tooltip = ISInventoryPaneContextMenu.addToolTip();
        tooltip.description = getText("ContextMenu_Five");
        totally.toolTip = tooltip;
        return
    end
end
Events.OnPreFillWorldObjectContextMenu.Add(readorNot)

[fast galleon]

what' self here?

[drifting ore]

okay you answered my question with your question lol.

[jaunty marten]

what's self?

[thick karma]

Presumably undefined

[drifting ore]

it is and it's one of two that are i just realized

[weak sierra]

you have inconsistent camel case

readorNot should be readOrNot

:p

[drifting ore]

hahaha

[thick karma]

lol and goodLevel

❤️ @weak sierra

[weak sierra]

x3

[thick karma]

Also tooltip, technically... who writes "tool tip"?

But the game I believe does ToolTip

because the game does things like "unhappyness"

So you do you on that front

[drifting ore]

thats literally copied vanill code

[thick karma]

Oh

[drifting ore]

local totally = context:addOption(getText("ContextMenu_Four", player.invMenu))
totally.notAvailable = false
local tooltip = ISInventoryPaneContextMenu.addToolTip();
tooltip.description = getText("ContextMenu_Five");
totally.toolTip = tooltip;

[thick karma]

I see that now

Haha

[drifting ore]

minuis the redfining of totally

anyone know how i'd call for context:addOption?

[jaunty marten]

should be snake case

[thick karma]

No

[fast galleon]

add the function parameters

[thick karma]

Nothing should be snake case

Ever

Because underscores are the worst

🙂

[weak sierra]

the only time underscores are ok is in classical constant naming

THIS_IS_A_CONSTANT_LOL

[jaunty marten]

nah, no way for camel case

[high cloak]

So is it only safe to use ModData after OnInitGlobalModData? i may be overthinking this but I'm trying to decide how to organize the startup of my mod and my head's going in circles. I have one script that checks for mod data, or creates a default table instead, when OnInitGlobalModData is invoked. But then it seems unintuitive when I want to access the same ModData from another script, because what if the entry point of that part of the script is ran before OnInitGlobalModData? Or, if the entry point is OnInitGlobalModData, what happens if it ends up running before the callback that initializes the mod data if it doesn't exist?

[jaunty marten]

u should use ModData.getOrCreate("name") instead creating default table

u creates default table but it's literally just new table it's not linked with moddata actually

[high cloak]

yeah that's what i'm doing now, but i initialize the table with default values if it's empty

[jaunty marten]

it will be deleted after relog and u again will get empty table and create default table

[high cloak]

relog?

[jaunty marten]

u need modify exactly moddata table

local mod_data = ModData.getOrCreate("name")
mod_data.key = {...}

[high cloak]

yeah i'm doing that

[jaunty marten]

show me how u exactly do it

part of code with it

[high cloak]

local function checkModData(modData)
    for key, value in pairs(defaults) do
        if modData[key] == nil then
            modData[key] = value
        end
    end
    -- some other initialization, usually based on sandbox vars
end

local function onInitModData()
    modData = ModData.getOrCreate('moddata')
    checkModData(modData)
end

roughly something like this

[jaunty marten]

I can't help u with it. I need exactly ur code

it's just a example that u just created

u can remove from there useless parts like sandbox vars and etc

[high cloak]

well I don't think my question has much to do with any code I have now, I am mostly inquiring about how other people deal with mod data when they are storing less simple data

[drifting stump]

not sure what your issue is

yes you can only access global modData after its initialised

if your code accesses it before then its simply an issue of your code

[jaunty marten]

I can't help without actual code to check the problem so good luck with it

[drifting stump]

there isnt a problem

[high cloak]

okay here's an example, two different files

-- file 1, just responsible for initializing default values
local function checkModData(modData) end
local function onInitModData() end

Events.OnInitGlobalModData.Add(onInitModData)

-- file 2, cares about some mod data values that are expected to exist
local function doThingsWithModData()
  local modData = ModData.get('name')
end

Events.OnInitGlobalModData.Add(doThingsWithModData)

what happens if doThingsWithModData runs before onInitModData? problems? how else can i deal with this? do i just have to make the entry point for my mod in the file that initializes mod data?

[drifting stump]

theyre inquiring about the possibility of acessing global modData before its initialized

[jaunty marten]

facepalm

[drifting stump]

if it runs before its initialized then it just shouldnt.

[jaunty marten]

I need to know HOW u creating moddata table and filling it

[high cloak]

yeah I don't doubt that they would somehow run before the event

[jaunty marten]

I already got u uses OnInitGlobalModData

[high cloak]

I'm talking about the order of the callbacks or whatever you'd want to call them

[drifting stump]

ohhhhhhh

they are ran in the order they were registered

and files are executed alphabetically

[high cloak]

ohh okay

[drifting stump]

and for folders
1 - shared/
2 - server/
3 - client/

[high cloak]

if i were to require file 1 in file 2, then can i assume that file 1's callback would run first?

[drifting stump]

yes you can require the file and itll run that first

[high cloak]

i think that solves my problem then, thanks for the info

[red tiger]

GitHub is your friend when you want to share code.

[jaunty marten]

better to use skype

[drifting ore]

better to use icq

[jaunty marten]

[drifting ore]

haha someone remembers

[jaunty marten]

icq for texts and skype for files

[drifting ore]

lol is icq even alive still?

nm it is lol!

[jaunty marten]

doomer moment

[drifting ore]

lmao!!!

[jaunty marten]

[sour island]

New mods dropping on limewire

Totally safe pls support

[jaunty marten]

lul

I'll drop next mods only on onlyfans... only for fans...

[finite radish]

wtf limewire does NFTs now? jesus lmao

i guess they already have a reputation for being sketchy and shitty, can't really go much lower

[neon bronze]

ah yes the super-awesome-mod.zip.exe

[jaunty marten]

he even can use preview.png..

check out my preview! so cool image

aaaand... death

[frank rivet]

I am so happy with skizots public release of his visible items mod. I was working in the background creating a mod like his in spirit of what he already worked on. But now since it's release I can rest easy. 😌 but of course this is always followed with a desire for more. "Welcome to the human condition". Now I am wondering if anyone out there is putting work into the Melee Combat aspect of the game. I think it would be cool to have some variety with either Charged Attacks, or Combo Systems with grabbing capabilities. Any one of those could massively enhance the Melee experience! In the mean time, I'm gonna look around to see if anyone has any work remotely close to this.

[faint jewel]

oh my mod still needs work, but thank you 🙂

[drifting ore]

dhert is working on something that will let you attack with offhand instead of main, no for sure release though. most of the work for what you want though seems to be animations really

[frank rivet]

Even attacking with the second hand properly sounds like an improvement to me! I'll look forward to his release!

[drifting ore]

here's hoping it makes it to release!

[ancient grail]

Really? Im shre this is sarcasm

[ancient grail]

I am doing this but not 100% focus on it

[frank rivet]

No rush. I'm happy to see you dropped a functional chainsaw mod. There are some things I think could use somework. But I'm not judging it. I still like it none the less!

[drifting ore]

technically there is an op mod out there for dual wielding already

[frank rivet]

Yeah I seen that. It's too buggy for my taste atm. Lol.

Type dual wield in the workshop.

Type chainsaw.

Oh lol. One sec.

[ancient grail]

Yeah its ok i accept constructive criticism and i know my limits and choices of actions

I mean i know i could do better on alot of what i did but i only work on comission mods so i really choose not to take long on doing em .. so i can move to the next one

[drifting ore]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2706426546

[frank rivet]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2921981763

[drifting ore]

dual wield is far from perfect

[ancient grail]

Uploading the fox for that i forgot so thnx it reminded me

[drifting ore]

oh you wanted chainsaw link. thanks for that also

[frank rivet]

I getcha bro.

[frank rivet]

Np

[ancient grail]

``

UPDATE:
Doesn't despawn the gas can anymore
Added Red text indicator when Chainsaw is about to lose 1 Durability (when the checker is visible)
Can now be used to saw logs (no animation yet)
``

thnx for the support @frank rivet appreciate you man

[faint jewel]

need an animation?

[ancient grail]

Theres an animation thats not used. I havent gotten the time to use make a timeaction.

But if we can make it like a thing that it doesnt like it swings anymore while aiming already does the dmg.. to do this the the swing animation speed should be a fraction of a second. So if you hold the aim and click then you are passively killing everything in front of you

[sour island]

Yes it was a joke, I don't know how people can use re-uploaded mod sites, not to mention using a torrent for them.

[ancient grail]

Thats what youve been up to? Checkin out non steam mod distribution

Makes sense cuz u are building an community mod

[fast galleon]

Talking about animations, I think I need to edit the xml for sheet rope to be able to change climb direction. Tried that a week ago with only commands.

and had no result

[ancient grail]

Like half way you can move reverse?

Perhaps its time to add animation channel 🙂

[little holly]

heya 😄 is there any up to date guide on how to make new tiles/textures? I'm working on that wind turbine mod but I'm not sure how to integrate the textures. The pzwiki docs seem outdated, I can't get the pack viewer to export single sheets, and I don't know how to import anything other than a tilesheet in tilezed

[drifting ore]

#mapping

[little holly]

thanks!

[jaunty marten]

finally done
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2923554542

[weak sierra]

that's a pretty cool approach

does it do the display in blue in the UI in game or is that just to illustrate?

[ancient grail]

Thats lit if jts actually blue

[jaunty marten]

doing

[jaunty marten]

didn't get u 😅

but yea, blue

[ancient grail]

Sorry for the typo im using mobile

I ment thats lit 🔥
If you made it blue

[jaunty marten]

ah, ha-ha

thanks

[sour island]

No, I'm happy with steam lol 😅

At least for publishing/distro - GitHub is better for most else

Speaking of which my upload action broke - so I need to fix that 😦

[ancient grail]

or just use piratebay

[sour island]

I'm talking about the github action to upload to workshop

[idle dawn]

How does loot work between SP/MP?

[faint jewel]

is there a way to move all items in a container to another container easily?

[idle dawn]

I'm thinking your occupation+traits set a static distribution at the start of the scenario? Or rather it calculates it when you open containers. In MP, since I've been told Lucky does nothing, I'm guessing all of this isn't applied and a server-set distribution is made on generation (and loot respawns).

[sour island]

It used to be when you first approached a container but now I think it's when you first access them

And lucky absolutely does something in SP/MP

[idle dawn]

What would it do in MP?

[sour island]

If anything it's a bit busted - as a lucky person can go around first and generate more loot

[idle dawn]

OH

So if loot isn't generated in a container, it generates for the first person who access it?

[sour island]

As far as I'm aware

[idle dawn]

Let me just say.

Doctors/Nurses with Lucky are busted.

[sour island]

I'd like to see an invisible loot system that requires searching to some degree

I don't think loot depends on occupation or trait

[idle dawn]

It does.

Different occupations and even traits have hidden bonuses to "foraging." And I noticed a HUGE increase in meds in my doctor.

[sour island]

uhh

foraging isn't looting though

[idle dawn]

I have to check it out.

But are you able to forage a gun?

Like, with the forage system?

Or ammo?

[sour island]

I don't think so?

[idle dawn]

Let me check because I think there's a forage stat for them.

[faint jewel]

hmmmm

createItemTransaction(InventoryItem item, ItemContainer src, ItemContainer dst)```
what dis do?

[idle dawn]

Ooooooh okay yeah, foraging system can actually spawn med supplies and ammo.

[sour island]

doRollItem only mentions lucky/unlucky for traits

I wasn't aware foraging worked that way - I presume that stuff is in cities

[idle dawn]

doRollItem is the function that calculates loot?

[sour island]

yes

there's a difference between loot and foraging

[idle dawn]

Okay maybe I got too lucky then.

[sour island]

medical centers usually have alot more loot than other places too - if you were looting a pharmacy

[idle dawn]

I think what tipped me off is the "traits explained" mod that actually shows in the tooltip what they do, and one of the things cops get is +Guns on foraging.

When there's no gun category.

[sour island]

those mods are manually done so it may have been not updated or mistakenly added

[idle dawn]

Oh no, nevermind. +Weapons, referring to the junk weapons.

[sour island]

so you're the mistaken one 😛

[idle dawn]

It does seem like guns can drop from that category though.

[ancient grail]

@zinc pilot so you figured out how to make the fence destroyable by zed i see. Was it via codes or did you overwrite the tile itself? Just curious

[wild shard]

So no more bike mod?

[heady crystal]

I'd make more vehicle mods if the devs added proper support for it

Just not worth the time rn

I'll stick to common sense as I don't have to touch vehicles

[wild shard]

ah so it was taken off the workshop because it's hard to upkeep with updates?

[heady crystal]

No Disliker DMCAd me alleging I copied him. Which I did not. But idc the mod was broken already

I have like almost 1000 hours in PZ 80% of which were spent trying to figure out how to make the bikes move properly

So many sacrifices had to be made because the game only supports 4 wheeled vehicles

[wild shard]

so annoying to take someone down that is trying to help make content for a video game 🙄

[heady crystal]

Yeah I don't understand some people

It actually makes me feel sad when people come ask me if they can include my mods in modpacks. Like they actually need my permission. So sad.

The mod is out there for people to enjoy and have fun, ofc you can pack it to make it easier for people to play in multiplayer

The nerve some modders have to deny that.

Why even make a mod if you don't want people to use it...

[queen sail]

its kinda in opposition to the whole idea of modding, you're right its whack

[heady crystal]

Exactly

Anyways I'm gonna focus on Common Sense now.

I'm busy working on a game of mine atm but I plan on adding a lot of new features

[queen sail]

I was running a server that used the bicycle mod, which I have honestly felt is one of the best mods I have ever used in zomboid- Would it be feasible like, for me to upload it privately just for my own use? Or is the mod just dead

None of my friends can join since it was taken off the workshop lol

[heady crystal]

I'm unsure. I'm not that well versed with all the random steam EULA with 600 pages

I think you're allowed to have it for private use

[tame mulch]

Sad that in steam workshop not possible create modpacks like in minecraft. As I know in minecraft mods if your mod used in modpack, it count download to mod too. Also in steam workshop not possible use special versions of mods

[heady crystal]

Indeed that is a much needed feature

Would make everyone happy I guess

[sour island]

You can create a modlist - it would be neat if the game allowed people to import those lists

Modpacks are explicitly made to avoid updates

[drifting ore]

easiest way is to allow for sub without download tbh and enforce

without having to redo the entire method

[heady crystal]

Oh man I made so many ppl mad when I started out modding lol

[tame mulch]

Yep, it helps sometimes. But sometimes you need change original mod for modpack, that not often possible by outside patches

[heady crystal]

I had no idea they had to update the whole thing whenever a single mod was updated

[faint jewel]

what DOES this do?

i can't find anything that uses it.

[heady crystal]

It happens

So much unused code

We need proper docs man

[sour island]

True, but 9/10 whenever someone asks me about modpacking it's to avoid updates - I think only one person mentioned wanting to tweak the mods to work better together

basically they want to update the files themselves on a more concise schedule

I kind of wish Steam allowed people to download older versions if the server hasn't updated 🤷‍♂️

they host the old versions of mods - as you can revert to any previous version

[drifting ore]

function ISGrabItemAction:start()
    self:setActionAnim("Loot");
    self:setAnimVariable("LootPosition", "Low");
    self:setOverrideHandModels(nil, nil);
    self.item:getItem():setJobType(getText("ContextMenu_Grab"));
    self.item:getItem():setJobDelta(0.0);
    self.character:reportEvent("EventLootItem");
    createItemTransaction(self.item:getItem(), self.item:getItem():getContainer(), self.destContainer)
end

this?

[faint jewel]

y eah i just hit that.

[drifting ore]

ohh you trying to fix that place thing?

[faint jewel]

so could i use that t loops through all the tiems in a container and transfer them to a new one?

i am.

[drifting ore]

enter someone who knows things...

[faint jewel]

who knows things?!

[drifting ore]

lol who knows. turn of phrase

[tame mulch]

I think this is for MP item stuff

[faint jewel]

yes

[drifting ore]

LOL

yes

[faint jewel]

i need to move all the items in a held container into a placed container.

[tame mulch]

If this for MP too, then for each item use this func

[faint jewel]

yes. so how do i tell what all items are in a container so that i might loop through them?

visibleItem is my held item and newItem is the tile that is created.

sendItemsInContainer(IsoObject obj, ItemContainer container)

ooooh

wait no.

[queen sail]

Has it been fully removed or is it under review or something? Is there a chance it'll reappear

[faint jewel]

local HeldInv = HeldItem:getInventory()
    if getDebug() then print("DEBUG - The count is :" .. HeldInv:getCount()); end

this isn't working!

[vast nacelle]

Shouldn't it be HeldItem:getContainer()?

Inventory for entities like players and zombies
Containers for inanimate objects like bags

[tame mulch]

HeldInv:getItems():size()

[faint jewel]

lol just after i figred it out,.

[faint jewel]

function MoveThatBus(HeldItem, PlacedItem, player)
    local HeldInv = HeldItem:getInventory():getItems():size()
    local HeldCont = HeldItem:getContainer()
    local PlacedCont = PlacedItem:getContainer()
    if getDebug() then print("DEBUG - The count is :" .. HeldInv); end
    --if instanceof(HeldItem, "InventoryContainer") and not HeldInv:isEmpty() then return end;
    for j=1,HeldInv do
        local item = HeldInv:getItems():get(j-1)
        createItemTransaction(item, HeldCont, PlacedCont)
    end
end
``` getting an error on the create item transaction.

Callframe at: createItemTransaction

[sour island]

Not sure how useful viewing the javafields is but 🤷‍♂️

also scales to size dynamically

[ruby urchin]

This will be my last reply about this topic, enough evidence was presented for your mod from the workshop to be removed, I will not allow my hours of work and research to be poorly rewarded, of course, you worked on your mod, but you can't continue to lie saying that you did everything by the fact of only changing the name of some variables and obfuscate functions as "Utils", give to you all the credit and demand ask for permission to use your work when you don't do the same.

[sour island]

Someone mentioned only being able to view static fields

Used what I gave Glytcher to grab classes

at least it's a bit shorter

[queen sail]

Which mod are you claiming he copied? I have no horse in the race i've just not seen any similar mods before

[sour island]

Based on context clues, sounds like they both had a bicycles mod

[faint jewel]

skateboard vs bicycles.

[queen sail]

i'm clicking around and it looks like Dislaik had a skateboard mod that, from what i can see and have experienced in game, functioned very differently. I've been running both and i'm not sure how they're related but i suppose i may not be privy to the code and any similarities that may be present there. That being said this ||pissing contest|| disagreement broke my server once the mod was removed from the workshop but i at least now have an answer as to why

[sour island]

Kind of curious to check out both- but it should be noted steam won't really do any due diligence for copyright strikes - their policy is to remove it right away and wait for a counter-claim to which they'll just goofily reinstate the mod and basically tell both parties to take it further in court(s).

This is to say, everything is alleged

[cosmic condor]

Please leave the mod name and descriptions in English. Better not use machine translation. I've seen your mod on MP server and have no idea that it should be translated as Common Sense 😅

[heady crystal]

Neverrrr

It's machine or nothing

[cosmic condor]

[heady crystal]

[faint jewel]

if anyone can assit with that, it'd be great. going to bed.

[cosmic condor]

Your mod name in Thai = Gizzard. I thought it's another food mod 😞

[heady crystal]

LMAO

wait

What does this mean กึ๋น

[cosmic condor]

Gizzard

[heady crystal]

What the heck

😦

You mean the internet LIED to me

So rude

I was told this was 100% accurately verified to be common sense

[cosmic condor]

common sense = สามัญสำนึก

[heady crystal]

But do you actually use that term in thai?

[sour island]

what's ข้อมูลที่ทุกคนควรรู้

[heady crystal]

Maybe it's an english only expression

[cosmic condor]

that's quite descriptive

[heady crystal]

In my language we call it bom senso so good sense instead of common

[sour island]

Also this is a wildly pretty alphabet

[heady crystal]

Ikr

Beautiful, ข้อมูลที่ทุกคนควรรู้ it is.

[sour island]

แม่ของฉันบอกว่านี่เป็นความจริง

[cosmic condor]

this one can be translated directly as = the info that everyone should know

[heady crystal]

Works

Idk tho. I kinda like Gizzard.

I have no idea what that means it just sounds like a funny word

Thanks for letting me know, I'll see if I can fix it 🙏

[cosmic condor]

this is written language

[heady crystal]

I have literally 0 knowledge about Thai tbf

[sour island]

I put 'my mom says this is true' into google translate

[cosmic condor]

Google Translate is quite good, but needs some post-editing to check context and formality of language

[heady crystal]

It's funny to me cause it changes sometimes for seemingly no reason

Sometimes I write super complex stuff and it translates even obscure expressions into my native language.

Sometimes it can't understand basic stuff that it used to

[dark wedge]

From what you gave, your HeldInv is only set to be the size of the items array:
local HeldInv = HeldItem:getInventory():getItems():size()
But then it is used as an inventory a container in your loop:
local item = HeldInv:getItems():get(j-1)

[sour island]

Really odd, my github action wouldn't update workshop.txt stuff - had to manually upload it to enact changes

Hoping there isn't an issue with the actual mod files

Also anyone interested in testing the debug tools as they are now: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2909488957

[ancient grail]

Yes me

[sour island]

there's issues introduced into the teleport/inspect buttons - will look into it tomorrow if I have time

[ancient grail]

Hehe
Do you have onserverconmand onclientcommand related

[sour island]

There's no frameworks/Patch content yet

it's just debug tools, if that's what you're asking

[ancient grail]

I dont use those anyways

Question . Can you assign time action to zeds

Probably not

[dark wedge]

oh cool, so the Community Patch is going to be like a set of common fixes for the base game? Or is this some sort of patching API (haven't read into it, sorry). If so, i have one. lol

[sour island]

The patch mod will be various fixes or even QoL stuff that don't really warrant being a stand alone mod

i've made at least 3 mods that fit the "fix that shouldn't really be it's own mod" criteria and I'm sure there's various ones all over the workshop too

One thing that also would be done is refactoring the vanilla Lua (by hard overwriting if necessary) to make mod compatibility possible

[dark wedge]

i have included the same few small "fixes" in 3 mods now, just to make sure its g2g.

[sour island]

Hm?

[dark wedge]

Was agreeing with what you said. ha. there are definitely some small tweaks that don't warrant their own mod, and i've just included the same "fix" (imo) for the clothing actions in 3 different mods because its so trivial. You can't equip shirts or other clothes and move, but you can unequip them and do so just fine. I just fix that. pants/shoes or whatever are handled via the animation.

[queen sail]

Hello, a mod that I was using on my server server was using was removed from the Steam workshop, and now friends who have not downloaded the mod previously are unable to join, as they cannot install all the correct mods. I do not want to remove the mod or restart if I do not have to, although I realize I may have to restart the world to change the mod list at all. I would like to know if i could upload the mod to the steam workshop, set to private or link required or whatever, and simply allow provide people trying to join a link to the page so they can subscribe to the one I have posted while replacing the removed workshop mod on the server and replacing it with my private copied mod?

[cosmic condor]

Uploading the mod yourself will change the Workshop ID. Better to just remove it from your mod list.

[queen sail]

What is the problem with changing the workshop ID? If it is just that my upload will not be recognized as the original on the current server because of a different ID, would it solve the problem if i restart the server with the archived mod in place of the original?

[cosmic condor]

Your friends will need the workshop ID to identify which workshop item that the client should download

If you reupload the mod it will counted as a new workshop item

1 workshop can contain multiple mods

[queen sail]

Right, and when people try to join the server, they are prompted to download all of the mods on that server- So when they go to download mods, they can't get in because one is unavailable. If i have replaced the one that is no longer on the workshop with an exact copy that I have placed on the workshop, we can continue to use the mod, albeit on a new world, and people should be able to download it from that prompt screen when they join right?

[cosmic condor]

But that way, it would defeat the purpose of not removing the mod from your mod list.

if it get removed, something must be wrong with that mod and should not reupload it

just remove it from your server's mod list is the best solution and easy to do

[queen sail]

While i appreciate the advice and the response, I know that removing the mod would be the quickest and easiest solution- I do not want to do that, and am asking about whether this solution will work, not whether it is a good idea to continue playing with the mod

[bleak lantern]

Is there a cheese mod?

[fast galleon]

cheat menu

[cosmic condor]

I'm trying to imply that you should not upload that mod, unless you have a permission from the mod author. If you insist on using that mod, I cannot give any more suggestions.

If the problem is that your friends can't join the server, removing that mod is the solution

but if the problem is, I want to keep on using that removed mod, then I have no idea

[queen sail]

That was the point of the question, was that i wanted to continue using it. That's what i intended to convey by saying I do not want to remove the mod, and that i understood removal was the quickest and easiest solution

[cosmic condor]

Could you tell which mod?

If the mod is not complicated, you can try learning and creating a new one

[queen sail]

The mod is rather complicated, I am not going to learn to construct it from the ground up. What i want to do is use a non-trademarked piece of software on a private server, and I want to know if the method I have described will work for archival and distribution

[cosmic condor]

I would say I never try that

since I have no idea which mod are you referring to, I'm not sure if the mod left some thing on the server and your new uploading mod will catch on or not

[fast galleon]

@queen sail
upload to limewire

[pulsar heath]

anyone knows a moodle mod i can have a look around?

trying to add rewards to buy moodles for the player

[queen sail]

we tried swapping the folder around on a google drive but couldn't get it to show up properly, I think the only way is to get it on the workshop

[fast galleon]

I heard people use nosteam so workshop is not the only way.

[cosmic condor]

care to elaborate?

[queen sail]

Even when the person in question had the folder named after the mods workshop ID in what we believe was the proper folder, it would show up as downloaded in their Mod menu but it would not let them into the server because they were not subscribed

as far as i understand it

[cosmic condor]

because the workshop is missing

the game need to verify if the content on steam workshop is the same as your local folder or not

[queen sail]

Right, that's why i want to upload it to the workshop- but keep it private so i can link it to the person i want to use it, and not have it publicly appear on the workshop

[ionic ginkgo]

Mod owner is the man for this

[cosmic condor]

My stance is: Don't do that. But if you insist, then I can't help

[pulsar heath]

trying to see how new moodles are created and use that to trigger moodles manually

with custom icon and label

basicly looking for a moodle mod where i can get a clear view of how it works in vanilla

[fast galleon]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2909759179

[pulsar heath]

thanks 🙂

[cosmic condor]

this one too https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2920735875

[dull moss]

@pulsar heath or just look at moodle framework on workshop, it has links to mods that use moodles

[slate sable]

how do I change the cost of a occupation? this is an example code im not sure if this is written correctly

    fitnessInstructor:addXPBoost(Perks.Fitness, 3)
    fitnessInstructor:addXPBoost(Perks.Sprinting, 2)
    fitnessInstructor:addFreeTrait("Nutritionist2");
end```

Im unsure if this will cause issues or not since its coded the same way as the vanilla code all I did was change the number from -6 to -9

or will it overwrite it.,

[thick karma]

How big is this private server? Are you talking about like 4 friends?

There are alternatives to uploading work that doesn't belong to you if you're talking about an extremely small server

You could stick local copies of the last working mod in each player's Zomboid/mods folder.

That would not automatically download things, but would allow use of the removed mod.

Otherwise, I would contact the mod author and ask permission to upload a new copy with a new workshop ID, if possible.

[nimble spoke]

I believe it should override the vanilla values for that profession

[sour island]

The mod in question was taken down with a CC strike. So the local route would be the least damaging route to take (if it's among a small group of people).

[warm flame]

Hey so i know this isnt the purpose of this channel, but does anyone know of a mod that adds more zone types to the admin panel? Or if it would even be possible to do? Im looking to be able to create zones with different rules such as disallowing construction/object placement

[slate sable]

will it cause redbox errors if I override it this way?

or should I write the script in a different way?

that may be more efficient?

[jaunty marten]

u can get the profession and set only different cost for it, no need to recreate prof

[slate sable]

alright how would I write it out could you give an example?

[jaunty marten]

local prof = ProfessionFactory.getProfession(String type)
prof:setCost(cost)

[weak sierra]

yes, but see below

[weak sierra]

sometimes mods are removed for reasons other than "problems exist with this", so there's times where one might want to do this

the biggest concern imo is violating the original uploader's rights re: their mod

i usually try to reach out to the mod creator and make sure they did it on purpose actually

often they think "hidden" still lets people download and use it

and what they wanted was "unlisted"

[thick karma]

Psssshhhhh, nobody does that, who would do that?

definitely did that

[weak sierra]

ur not the only one either lol

[neon bronze]

Can i „remove“ my result from a crafting recipe action by setting it to nil in OnCreate?

[faint jewel]

@vast nacelleyou here?

[nimble spoke]

If I remember it right there is a recipe value for removing the result item

[neon bronze]

You dont happen to know it by chance 🙏

[nimble spoke]

RemoveResultItem:true,

[neon bronze]

So its just there for not giving a result item right?

[nimble spoke]

yes, you set up a result item, that is shown by the context menu, but isn't given to the player

[neon bronze]

Ahhh

I just wondered why tis wouldnt make the result argument non obligatory but this makes sense

[nimble spoke]

If you absolutely don't want a result item or recipe UI shown in game then I guess it should not be a recipe

[neon bronze]

Nah this is exactly what i want i had to do it through the OnCreate but this is direct

[weak sierra]

RemoveResultItem:true iirc

look at my Udderly Gun Reconditioning mod for reference if im wrong

i do that for the reconditioning recipes

[weak sierra]

ah seems i was right

that's what happens when u skimmmm

xD

[faint jewel]

argh. this moving items is gone be rough lol.

[ancient grail]

Cheesecar

[pulsar heath]

i remember seeing somewhere in the forums a post with the keyboard key codes but cant seem to find it... anyone knows the link?

nevermind... quicker to do a small function to return the key code when i press it...

[jaunty marten]

there is any mod on workshop that helps to faster and easier build house or smth else by some layout? I mean build tool, not creative tool, exactly build one

I have some idea but maybe someone already created it

[tardy wren]

Uh, remind me, how does ZombRand work?

[polar thicket]

Me and a friend of mine is having some issues making the textures for our mod work.

I have made the appropriate art in the correct image format and with the correct ressolutions (using original extracted game textures as a reference to make the images be the correct way)

But the documentation we can find with the tilezed program is all over the place. We managed to make the .pack file.

But we are having problems making the tilesheet file

[sour island]

ZombRand(n) = number of digits
In other words, starts at 0 to n-1

[polar thicket]

The mod intends to add a new placeable object to the game (generator of sorts)

[jaunty marten]

ZombRand(3) - from 0 to 2
ZombRand(1, 4) - from 1 to 3

[tardy wren]

thank you

[tardy wren]

you too

[jaunty marten]

[tardy wren]

Another question, Can you override Recipes?

[fast galleon]

check mapping

I was helping a guy yesterday, not sure how far he got.

[polar thicket]

Will do

[polar thicket]

That is my friend. We spent over an hour trying to figure things out. Will continue convo there

[pulsar heath]

@sour island how did you make the icons for the EHE? ISUIElement?

the ones that track the heli position

[tardy wren]

Is getUsedDelta the amount remaining or the amount used up?

[jaunty marten]

@sour island u working so much with ui, there is any function on lua side to draw polygon or at least triangle? tried to find any reference from java to lua but nothing

[sour island]

There is drawRect

You could try scaling a texture but it would probably look pretty bad

[sour island]

The markers?

[pulsar heath]

yeah the markers

[jaunty marten]

drawRect draws only square, it isn't?

[pulsar heath]

was trying to do something with a icon and a value on top of the image by using ISPANEL

but then i remembered... your markers for the events

[jaunty marten]

I don't mean drawTexture just draw colored polygon or triangle

[sour island]

I've only seen drawing an image to an aspect - you can control the aspect for x and y axis

I think drawRect has a width and height but it's only squares

[pulsar heath]

working with ui in pz is a pain the ...

[sour island]

Other than maybe drawing outlines or lines I don't think there's other shapes

[jaunty marten]

rect is a rectangle so yes

[faint jewel]

I need a code buddy

[jaunty marten]

[tawdry solar]

shit ass true music mod addon

[jaunty marten]

why not code monkey?

[tawdry solar]

like what

[faint jewel]

well those are difficult to manage.

[jaunty marten]

they still don't know human languages?

[jaunty marten]

what the fuk

[finite radish]

...idk that you can go blaming another mod when you don't have the correct folder structure

[faint jewel]

lua is barely a MCHINE language, much less a human language lol

[finite radish]

lua isn't a machine language at all, it's a scripting language

[tawdry solar]

it was part of the tutorial i watched

[finite radish]

you either followed it wrong, or the tutorial is wrong

[faint jewel]

especially with the pz api that is spottier that a herd of dalmatians.

[jaunty marten]

I'm not about it 😄

[tawdry solar]

idk how the creators is wrong when his is right

hold on

i think i extracted it wrong

[jaunty marten]

like u wanted the code monkey but now u need the code buddy, so I think monkey even couldn't figure out what do u want

[faint jewel]

have i asked about a monkey?

[jaunty marten]

it was a few days ago

I remember

[finite radish]

the sooner you accept that Zomboid modding is done best by writing Java logic but in Lua syntax, the better off you'll be

[faint jewel]

i'll be damned.

[jaunty marten]

🦧

I have only orangutan..

[faint jewel]

i have like 3 projects that need assistance beyond my capabilities.

[finite radish]

sounds like you either need to re-evaluate your scope, or you need to just buckle down and learn more

[faint jewel]

with a buddy, i can offer art for THEIR project in exchange for code help with MINE.

i am trying, but i like doing art WAY more.

[jaunty marten]

art? wdym

[faint jewel]

models, textures, ui stuff... ART

[bleak lantern]

No, i want cheese. I want a cheese mod. I want Wensleydale Cheese.

[slender mulch]

Don't worry

It will happen

[jaunty marten]

u can shot me msg about which projects needs help and if they interest me I can help to you mb

[faint jewel]

well my carry mod, i need to take the items that a player is carrying and put them into a tile that is placed.

my trucking mod needs a once over to finalize and correct some stuff.

and my stupid ass ice cream trucks are STILL broken

[jaunty marten]

put them into a tile that is placed. didn't got it correctly

[faint jewel]

okay... my boxes mod? do you know of it?

[jaunty marten]

what's the tile?

yep

[faint jewel]

you can pick up world tiles, and carry them as models, and then place them back on the ground as tiles. while they are in your hand you can put stuff in them. i want that stuff to be placed into the tile that is created when you place it down.

[jaunty marten]

world tiles so u can pick up grass tile, right? not grass object but exactly grass tile, and while it into ur hands u can put some items inside and when u will put tile from hands on any tile it will automatically place all items from hand tile container to this place too, right?

[faint jewel]

boxes and things.

[jaunty marten]

I'm still confused about picking up the tile and how it can contain items 😅
maybe do u meant any container object?

[faint jewel]

one second. i will show you.

[jaunty marten]

oki

[tardy wren]

So, is it possible to override recipes like you can do with items?

[faint jewel]

yes

[jaunty marten]

ha-ha, yea, I incorrectly got u when u said tiles

[faint jewel]

the box on the ground... is a tile.

[jaunty marten]

so if there's any items inside u picked up it and place it again there have to be same items, right?

[jaunty marten]

I thinks about it like tile is a floor object and objects on it is a just objects not tile

it's fine now

[faint jewel]

if you put items in it while you are carrying it, i want those items to be moved to the box on the ground when you place it.

[jaunty marten]

with ur mod when player will unequip hand tile it will be dropped from inventory, right? won't go into player inventory

[faint jewel]

it will go to the box on the ground

[idle dawn]

I'm gonna add that delay to the explosion I mentioned then spawn as many zombies as possible.

And not lower any graphic settings.

[jaunty marten]

got u, yea, sounds interesting cos mod is cool, can try to do smth

[idle dawn]

Do we have a tick function or something that returns the time since session start in ms or something?

And if so where is it found.

[subtle sapphire]

hello everyone, I have the feeling that composters are broken. They provide an unbreakable defense against zombies, they don't even attack these objects. Do you know if there is a way to make composters "breakable" or, remove them from the game?

[thick karma]

Did you try getServerTime()

In GameTime

Idk what it does but it sounds good

[dark wedge]

are you still getting the same error as before when using createItemTransaction? Or whats up?

[faint jewel]

yeah i have tried a few things and it appears that the newitem is a moveable and NOT the tile.

so yeah it's fun

[idle dawn]

I'll look into it, but if you can tell me where it is in the files lmk.

[jaunty marten]

u can check this mod and do same but for composters https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2923027740

[faint jewel]

                    -- MOVE ALL THE SHIT IN THE HELDITEM TO THE PLACED ITEM.
                    local HeldInv = visibleItem:getInventory()
                    local HeldCont = visibleItem:getContainer()
                    local PlacedCont = newItem:getContainer()
                    if getDebug() then print("DEBUG - The count is :" .. HeldInv:getItems():size()); end
                    --if instanceof(HeldItem, "InventoryContainer") and HeldInv:isEmpty() then return end;
                    if HeldInv:getItems():size() > 0 then
                        getPlayer():Say("I need to empty this before I can place it.");
                    end
                    
                    _character:getInventory():Remove(visibleItem);
                    return originalPlaceMoveable(self, _character, _square, _origSpriteName);
``` this is how i;m at least blocking it for now

[subtle sapphire]

thanks! I'll give it a look. It's weird because in a release note is said that Composter are not thumpable by zombies, but that is not true. 👀

[idle dawn]

https://github.com/Konijima/PZ-Libraries Fuck it I give up fine I'll install the ide.

Looked at the tutorial and it basically has everything I want, with intellisense from the decompiled project.

I don't have to be guessing where everything is.

Other then learning some wacky plugin emmylua, should be okay.

[faint jewel]

that's the closest I've ever had those.

[rancid tendon]

we love close numbers... good sign

[finite radish]

[faint jewel]

lol wut

[bronze yoke]

i find that subscribers kind of snowball because of servers

[rancid tendon]

yeah i figured that's what it was

[bronze yoke]

it's usual for visitors to be much much higher than subscribers at first, and then over a few months subscribers overtake the visitors

[faint jewel]

yeah

[finite radish]

it's an experimental proof-of-concept map with a catchy name and a decent logo, so I'm not surprised really

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2922328972

[faint jewel]

it replaces the road tiles with dirt? lol

[finite radish]

(and removes the lines, among other things, but that's more or less the premise)

[dark wedge]

lol. idk what i did wrong:

[finite radish]

you clickbaited 10k people

[idle dawn]

dirt

[dark wedge]

also, mfw i realize my comprehensive animation mod lost in popularity to a mod that adds a cardboard box.
jk @faint jewel nice work. i guess you won our battle. 😆

[tame mulch]

Reverse situation 😄

[faint jewel]

ffs

the hell mod is that?

[tame mulch]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2402057349

[faint jewel]

LOL

[nimble spoke]

I will never understand how a suicide mod can be so popular in a survival game haha

[finite radish]

people want to escape reality and live out their fantasies

[faint jewel]

says a LOT about the players i guess

[bronze yoke]

that was the first mod i ever got, i was surprised it wasn't vanilla (though i can imagine their reasons now LOL)

it's just a staple of zombie media, and suitably dramatic

[red tiger]

A lot of people like this mod. Is it not in the game due to ESRB age ratings / other things like that?

[finite radish]

i doubt it

[idle dawn]

This. No other weird reason for it. Zomboid mimics the more realistic-esque zombie media of unknown names, and they're a lot of survivor drama involved in them.

[idle dawn]

I'm surprised we have explicit suicide by drinkable bleach first before this.

[drifting ore]

i used getTimestamp. not sure if anyone else using something better, but it seems to run in seconds

[drifting stump]

even worse ratio

[drifting ore]

doesnt that just indicate that it's on a ton of servers as a collection vs in a modpack?

with low visitors vs subs

[drifting stump]

yes

[drifting ore]

i'd make 10k accounts and sub just to keep you going if it took that lol

your stuff is way too good dhert.

there is not nearly enough QOL stuff out there imo. i'm a roleplayer at heart so my mindset is diff than alot of others, but i will say that this stuff stands out to me as much or more than most other mods. fancy handwork alone is becoming one of my favorite mods out there just because of your work with animations. it's literally so sick dude

[dark wedge]

I really appreciate all that you said. 😊
For sure, will keep going with it!

[idle dawn]

Is it accurate in MS? So 1ms = 0.001 getTimestamp()?

[drifting ore]

maybe but i swear when i used it it was updating per second

not ms

ohh nm i read tha twrong

yea thats right

wait maybe one more 0?

math isn't my strong suit but ms are 1000 per second right

so 3 zeros

someone please clarify cuyz i swear it was just by seconds also

or another method also is cool 😄

just test it also and you will see it's usage. can print to be sure

but i was making an auto restart mod (really just a save and quit mod on a timer) and i used getTimestamp and worked

[idle dawn]

Basically, if it's every second, aka 1 = 1 second.

If I want to check for millisecconds, which is 1000ms to 1sec

100ms from that 1 second is 0.01

[drifting ore]

oh yes

i told you math isn't my strong suit LOL you got this

[idle dawn]

When I say is it "accurate" I mean if I ask it the function can return 1.423 and it doesn't just go from 1, to 2.

If it only changes every second, instead of MS

Luckily.

[drifting ore]

in console it tracks by individual ms

[idle dawn]

Oh, so it does show 1.234?

decimels?

[drifting ore]

so i think there is some level of tracking there

in console it just shows a flat number

like231904832984

[idle dawn]

Well luckily, we have a function called getTimestampMs.

[drifting ore]

LOL

there you go

[finite radish]

that's the tick count, you guys are looking for OnTick most likely if you're trying to get accurate clock readings

[idle dawn]

Which is wacky

OnTick is an event. Not what I'm looking for.

[drifting ore]

yea i think he's using for tracking

[idle dawn]

I can make a function that increments OnTick

But that's redundant if it already exists.

[drifting ore]

crater def knows more about the code itself tho haha so he's got something

[finite radish]

it's an event, with an argument that does precisely what you're looking for (although converting from ticks to seconds is... tricky, if not impossible)

[idle dawn]

Freezes the game for 1 second when a zombie dies.

Since I didn't use spawn.

haha

tldr, I'm trying to make a slight delay on some code.

[finite radish]

yeah you definitely don't want to loop like that instead of using the game loop (aka OnTick)

[idle dawn]

Which you have to use coroutines for.

You "can" loop like that, it isn't a problem.

Just that it will stall the entire game to do it.

That's why you run a coroutine.

[finite radish]

...that's a problem, lol

[idle dawn]

xD

Well with a coroutine it'l try to async off the game loop thread.

So it should do what I tell it to.

[finite radish]

I don't really think that's possible in this context

Lua in Zomboid is more of a wrapper, it's missing a lot of basic features

[idle dawn]

Let me test and record it then.

coroutines are in base lua afaik.

[finite radish]

spinning off new threads also isn't a great idea in general, but if you can manage it more power to you

[finite radish]

lots of base Lua isn't in Kahlua, and even less is enabled for use in Zomboid

[idle dawn]

poop

[finite radish]

it's more or less a wrapper that interacts with the Java code - almost all the Lua you're writing (if it's decent) should match Java-esque OOP and probably uses a shitload of Java method calls directly, as well as Java objects

so even if you could make a coroutine, I doubt the game process would even acknowledge it or have a way to communicate with it

[idle dawn]

Yeah, I think you're right on that then.

Let me check.

Might be ignoring everything in spawn().

But not throwing errors.

Yep.

Full ignore.

[finite radish]

yeah i thought so. you'll have to rely on OnTick

[rancid tendon]

https://i.imgur.com/XM3e8jN.png

sharing a little writing i'm doing for a mod feature that's in the works :p

[finite radish]

just to give you some ideas, I use a modulo to handle delays and it doesn't block the game loop at all. buttery smooth.

e.g.

local function DoTickThing(delta)
    if (delta % 10 == 0) then
        -- do stuff
    end 
end

-- add to OnTick event here```

so every 10th tick (basically a frame - the game loop and render loop are more intertwined than they should be tbh) it'll run your code

[idle dawn]

I just found a file called Coroutine.lua

In the lua source files.

In shared.

[finite radish]

I'm not seeing that file in the vanilla game anywhere, unless VSCode is somehow lying to me

what's the path?

[idle dawn]

media\lua\shared\Library\Coroutine.lua

[finite radish]

I don't even see a "Library" folder at all

[idle dawn]

O

Hmm

I saw it in the zdoc-lua.jar thing.

Wack

All this bs.

Maybe it's a Java implementation?

Most of the stuff I'm looking in the library are Java things.

So potentially it's all the what do you call it.

The LuaManager implementation.

And this thing generated it.

So there might be a coded Coroutine class in java.

[finite radish]

could be an issue with that in particular, yeah. maybe it's put there as part of the actual Lua base library - but that's useless in this case

[idle dawn]

Hm..

[finite radish]

there's different thread managers, but we almost certainly have access to zero of that code. some of that management is written in C++ as well, and can't be decompiled

[idle dawn]

Let me play around with the functions either way.

[finite radish]

feel free. if you can't accomplish what you're trying to with the base game loop though, chances are you're just writing unoptimized code in the first place or doing some really wacky bullshit

[idle dawn]

If they implemented their own Coroutine class, which became accessable through LuaManager, would work.

Mostly wacky bullshit. I've been programming on other things and I'm used to doing things in certain ways.

But coroutines is a thing that's used.

Actually just searched up in https://projectzomboid.com/modding/ and there are some hits on it, which is exactly where the file is pointing at.

Wack

[bronze yoke]

there's a coroutine class but it's only exposed in debug mode

[idle dawn]

O

Well, wow. xD

YOURE RIGIIGITHIHT

So yeah, we do have to rely on GetTick then for any time sensitive non-event code not inherently coded.

My goal atm is just to "delay" a code firing for some certain time.

[sour island]

You can use timestamps in conjunction with ticks

[sour island]

I've done this, so it's possible

[idle dawn]

Oh yeah, I can check how long time has passed.

[sour island]

It's not perfect but being with in 0-1 ticks is pretty damn close

[idle dawn]

I'm not that concerned about the accuracy imo. Just the method. OnTick more or less means I'm checking every tick to see if a certain "time"/tick passed, to then run code. It also has to check if it SHOULD, and I have to pass it args.

[finite radish]

you don't even need the timestamp necessarily, although if it gets actual time units (ms, s, m, etc.) then that's nice. but OnTick has a delta parameter that you can use as the game loop's clock

[idle dawn]

Remember I'm running this code when zombie dies.

So I have to tie it to that.

[sour island]

I've done exactly that

[finite radish]

what are you actually trying to do? I think this is becoming an XY problem

[fast galleon]

you could calculate the tick you need

[finite radish]

but yes - you could set a flag on zombie death, then have the code run OnTick

[finite radish]

they're too unreliable for that, unless you're just incrementing

tickspeed changes drastically with zoom level, regardless of PC specs

[idle dawn]

It's technically the most accurate "GameTime" though.

[finite radish]

oh yeah, definitely. no doubt about that

it's the best we have, but it's dogshit

[idle dawn]

There's two time spaces we normally use, GameTime and RealTime.

[fast galleon]

if you have only one check it shouldn't be that bad anyway.

[idle dawn]

RealTime being a timestamp of actual computer cycles or whatever cycle the game is using on program.

I'm just gonna have a thing that queues a function to run it.

And once it reaches past the timestamp, it runs whatever I need it to.

[finite radish]

you could also just use ISBaseTimedAction and ISTimedActionQueue since that's what they're good at

and it'd save you from reinventing about two dozen wheels

but if it doesn't align with your use case then you're SOL

(also useless if the thing you're trying to do isn't an interruptable action the player is initiating, I'm pretty sure. again, XY problem)

[idle dawn]

Yeah, it's nothing like that.

[zinc pilot]

couldn't do it via tile editing, so code

I basically replace every instance of a "compatible" fence via tile checking at runtime during chunk loading

it's basically the same method TIS used to spawn traps in the world (didn't even know traps were spawned lel)

[jaunty marten]

@faint jewel it's a bug? if box in hands > capacity is 50 but if placed > 25

[faint jewel]

i might need to adjust it.

[drifting ore]

it should still place though right? just not able to interact with until it's below that threshold? or... thats my experience

unless there is something specific with placing that follows that rule as well

same goes if you place a container with those same parameters inside another container

having some kind of option for nested weight reduction would be sick. i thought it used to have it, but assuming it was treated as a bug that needed to be fixed?

[vast nacelle]

The "small" containers should work when nested into a "large" container.
First Aid Kits, small Gun Cases, etc..
Would make them useful to actually keep around.

[jaunty marten]

we are talking about Skizot's mod not about vanilla one

[drifting ore]

that limit is hardcoded?

i thought

[drifting ore]

really? hmmmm i feel like i dont have this experience unless it's equipped? unless you are stating it should be a thing vs is a thing

[vast nacelle]

Should be a thing, but is not currently

[drifting ore]

ahh yes 100% agree

toolboxes and kits and stuff are useless atm imo

might as well just always look for highest enc reduction

makes me sad when stuff is built that way. so linear

then again <roleplayer LOL so i always think of stupid stuff like that

[idle dawn]

local TickQueue = {}
TickQueue.Queue = {}

function TickQueue:AddToQueue(time, func)
    local timestamp = getTimestamp() + time
    table.insert(self.Queue,{timestamp, func})
end

local function RunQueuedTickFunctions()
    for k,v in ipairs(TickQueue.Queue) do
        if(v[1] <= getTimestamp()) then
            v[2]()
            table.remove(TickQueue.Queue,k)
        end
    end
end
Events.OnTick.Add(RunQueuedTickFunctions)

local function OnZombieDead(zombie)
    local cell = zombie:getCell()
    local square = zombie:getSquare()
    TickQueue:AddToQueue(1,function()
        --- And the zombies were electric...
    end)
end
Events.OnZombieDead.Add(OnZombieDead)

I made my own helper

Seems to work.

I'm not a programmer ngl.

[fast galleon]

yeah I do something similar

in your example you need to call getTimestamp only once

local current = getTimestamp()

@idle dawn what is the purpose of the wait here?

[idle dawn]

the wait?

[fast galleon]

the delay

[idle dawn]

They all explode at the same time.

"Exactly" at the same time.

Which I want to prevent.

[jaunty marten]

u can use this btw https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2875394066

-- 0 = 1 tick
timer:Simple(0, func)

[idle dawn]

So I give it a little offset.

Nah I got it. 🙂

But thank

[jaunty marten]

u can use timer:Create()
repetitions with selected delay

[idle dawn]

Fuck what's lua's rand(1.5) again?

[jaunty marten]

[torn harbor]

Anybody know a reference I can look at to make other tools with the "Destroy" option like the sledgehammer?

[bronze yoke]

probably the actual sledgehammer code would be the best to look at

[jaunty marten]

just check this function of sledgehammer

[fast galleon]

isn't it a tag now?

[idle dawn]

I assume we have the math library.

haha

[torn harbor]

Didn't notice anything in the code for sledgehammer at pzwiki

[jaunty marten]

I found it sometime

[torn harbor]

Maybe I didn't look close enough.

[bronze yoke]

it wouldn't be in the item script they show on the wiki

it'd be in the game's lua somewhere

[torn harbor]

Ohh.

Somewhere...

[bronze yoke]

if this is right though that's much easier

[tacit plover]

Tags = Sledgehammer,

this should work

[fast galleon]

function Recipe.GetItemTypes.Sledgehammer(scriptItems)
    scriptItems:addAll(getScriptManager():getItemsTag("Sledgehammer"))
    addExistingItemType(scriptItems, "Sledgehammer")
    addExistingItemType(scriptItems, "Sledgehammer2")
end

[jaunty marten]

just check "Destroy" string in translation folder > copy string id for getText and by it u can find context menu option with it

[torn harbor]

Thank you

[jaunty marten]

ah, he just want to add other tools feature like sledgehammer

my bad

[torn harbor]

I'm interested in a few things sledgehammer related.

[idle dawn]

I just got a nil error using the math library.

I'm shook

We no use math?

[jaunty marten]

what's the error

[idle dawn]

tried to access null

math.random(0.15)

[jaunty marten]

we not using it XD

[idle dawn]

oml

I wanna cry.

[jaunty marten]

idk why but ZombRand

[idle dawn]

Why.

Why.

[jaunty marten]

it's math.random

u can ask tis

[fast galleon]

you can add a check to add / remove the RunQueuedTickFunctions so that it doesn't always run

[idle dawn]

That true

Will save that in the do it later or never pile. This isn't for anyone else but me anyways until I decide to.

Either way I want names.

I want my methhh.

mathhh.

[jaunty marten]

what do u need?

math.random (ZombRand) u have

[fast galleon]

Use ZombRandFloat(0.15) I guess

[jaunty marten]

what else

[idle dawn]

I know but what If I want to know the cosine of a laden swallow.

So I can make pretty perfect circles.

[fast galleon]

math exists, just no random

[jaunty marten]

yes

math.cos math.ceil math.fmod all are exists

[idle dawn]

Security thing then?

[jaunty marten]

but really why math.random it's ZombRand

[tardy wren]

Okay, uh... Can someone tell me what getUsedDelta returns to me? Is it the amount left or amount used up? As in, a fresh thing will return 1 or 0?

[jaunty marten]

huh?

[idle dawn]

It's so random, no pun intended, that that specific function is replaced with that.

[fast galleon]

maybe it has better performance or there was issues

[jaunty marten]

mb it's just thing like adding IS to name of each file

[fast galleon]

print(myItem:getUsedDelta)

||It shows if an item is used / drained: 1 full, 0 empty||

[jaunty marten]

hah

[finite radish]

nah it's because the game, and the modding platform, are all essentially java. lua is just there to make sure no one uses reflection and shit, or needs to set up gradle to make a mod (ew)

but like, even the most lua-y lua you can write is still very object oriented and you're constantly interacting with Java objects rather than Lua tables

[idle dawn]

We set up gradle anyways for the proper documentation.

😐

[finite radish]

ew

[idle dawn]

I had to use it to decompile things properly.

[finite radish]

why? you can just decompile the class files into java files

and then ctrl+shift+F in the project to find literally anything you need

[idle dawn]

That's what I did.

I never said I did anything with gradle.

The project was just set to use it.

[finite radish]

[idle dawn]

Because it was the most funny sounding name.

[finite radish]

"I had to use it to decompile things properly." implies doing something with gradle doesn't it?

[idle dawn]

If it works it works. Even if it had nothing to do with it.

Now if you'll excuse me, I got 100 notepad++ extensions to use that I 100% require for my workflow.

[slate sable]

I'm working on a trait and occupation change in cost, im unsure if the code is written correctly or if im leaving anything out important any suggestions or tips will help a ton.
Theres a weird bug with fastlearner and slowlearner you can take one or the other and remove it and then it will allow you to duplicate and pick multiple fastlearners not sure how to fix this bug.

[idle dawn]

But yeah I have no fuck clue this ide.

Or java

[slate sable]

Not sure if I have to add a event for professions or not, I have one for traits.

[fast galleon]

yeah it does that if you overwrite the traits

[slate sable]

how would I go about fixing the problem?

[fast galleon]

stop doing that

Is this going to be a workshop mod or personal use?

[slate sable]

workshop mod

[idle dawn]

I tested against some good ol zombonies. Seems like the timestamping is a bit wonky on timing, Random between 0.15 turning out to be near half of a full second anyways? Moh tester later.

I'm done modding for the day I got other things.

thanks fam

[fast galleon]

considering how many mods do the same thing, there's a lot of compatibility here to consider. Not sure which one to use as a good example.

[idle dawn]

There's a mod that makes all traits free I think.

Anyways im out

[slate sable]

well I'm not trying to add new traits or professions just trying to modify the cost

I haven't found a good source of references to know how to write in java, I tried looking at PZ modding wiki but I couldn't find anything regarding a written language to go off for what im trying to do.

simply don't know what im doing and my mod writting is a mess

here to learn

[fast galleon]

#mod_development message
use this for professions

[jaunty marten]

AJHHAJHA watafuck

[fast galleon]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding

https://github.com/FWolfe/Zomboid-Modding-Guide

[jaunty marten]

for traits u changing only cost as and for profs?

[slate sable]

yes

[drifting ore]

Idk if thats the right place to ask and it may sound dumb how hard Lua is compared to c++?

Cuz i guess that mods are almost entirely made in lua right?

[jaunty marten]

I wanted to say to u do same thing as for profs setCost but checked traits and there's no function setCost for them but only get

wtf

[bronze yoke]

it should be a lot easier

[fast galleon]

base hook to add professions correctly by Fenris #mod_development message

local original_doprofessions = BaseGameCharacterDetails.DoProfessions -- copy the original
BaseGameCharacterDetails.DoProfessions = function()
    original_doprofessions() -- call the original

    -- now do the stuff

end
Events.OnGameBoot.Remove(original_doprofessions)
Events.OnGameBoot.Add(BaseGameCharacterDetails.DoProfessions)

--- add profession
local burglar = ProfessionFactory.addProfession("burglar", getText("UI_prof_Burglar"), "profession_burglar2", -6);
--- or get profession for some edits
local burglar = ProfessionFactory.getProfession("burglar")

You can see examples in the file lua/shared/NPCs/MainCreationMethods.lua

selfPins professions

[jaunty marten]

try to create array or simple string in both of them and u will see 😄

[slate sable]

😐

[fast galleon]

omg, I guess that explains all the horrible edits

[slate sable]

I already said i don't know what im doing, of course its bad.

[jaunty marten]

XD

[drifting ore]

Cpp or Lua?

[jaunty marten]

I tried to explain in simple terms

[bronze yoke]

lua!

[jaunty marten]

lua for sure

[bronze yoke]

lua is designed to be a lot simpler

[drifting ore]

Alr then I'm gonna start learning Lua soon

Cuz there's too many mods that i wish that existed

[fast galleon]

I didn't me you in particular, any trait / prof mod I've seen does weird edits

[jaunty marten]

now smoker will give +1 to points and nothing more, yea, crazy mod, coming to publish

[drifting ore]

looks like i've got a deaf trait to fix

you think it's possible to block voip listening? i haven't looked so ignore me if you feel im too lazy for asking before looking

only thing that would make deaf balanced is blocking them from hearing voip

[jaunty marten]

idk who takes this trait. if only for fun gaming or youtube memes

[slate sable]

I don't appreciate you cracking jokes when im here to learn not insulted on my lack of knowledge how to code.

[jaunty marten]

blind trait same

[zinc pilot]

ouchie ouch

[jaunty marten]

it's just a meme

no offense

[slate sable]

Mhm surely not intentional.

[jaunty marten]

sure

[drifting ore]

going to for sure fix my bad edit to deaf trait though lol

it was my first attempt at an overwrite

[jaunty marten]

just figured out what u can't alt-tab while pz is loading or reloading lua if you didn't press alt-tab in a small time lapse after button press but with alt-tab and after ctrl+alt+delete it's fine

how much time I'm spent in loading menu..

[drifting ore]

ohhh because it pauses when not in focus sometimes?

or am i misreading that

or cause issue?

[jaunty marten]

u can't alt-tab while loading is up

[drifting ore]

oh didn't even try ever lol

or didn't notice

[jolly locust]

Is there an appropriate channel for just spitballing neat ideas for mods/features?

[zinc pilot]

and that's why I just work in windowed mode

[jaunty marten]

u can alt-tab if u press button to load into world and in almost same time doing alt-tab

[fast galleon]

I always alt-tab, just causes some lag depending on when it's done

[jaunty marten]

btw, there's steam startup parameters for pz like -w and -h?

mb do u know

or it's base parameters for any steam game idk

I used it in gmod

[zinc pilot]

don't think so, at least that I know of. I just set it in windowed while developing

alt+enter is your friend

[crude talon]

How would one edit the zone type (namely residential/non-residential) of an area of the map?

[drifting ore]

this is a mapping question really. but you'd have to create a new objects file that redefines the zone? unless you mean worldmap, then you'd just have to rebuild the worldmap.xml on top of a picture of what you are trying to define, write a new worldmap.xml and make sure you patch it to overwrite the original cells you want updated

any other questions for mapping i'd stick in #mapping

[crude talon]

oh yes I forgot about the mapping chanel

[wide oar]

i made another mod and um

[26-01-23 17:27:24.025] ERROR: General , 1674775644025> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException at NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0 (Native Method)..

i get this error whenever i try and launch it enabled

and i get the stupid no hud menu again

[jaunty marten]

need full error

it's part of it

[wide oar]

• reuploaded cuz i forgot to revert a test i did to see if it was the textures (it isnt)

[jaunty marten]

I'm not sure but seems problem with Easy Config Chucked try to use this manual

cos I don't see any problem in ur code or scripts

stop

found

26 line

[wide oar]

that will teach me to use a older version of my own mod as a base (i used the broken files i had for the silver ghost before i fixed it on accident i guess)

rip

hahahha

ty

[jaunty marten]

yup

[wide oar]

still broken

._.

[jaunty marten]

try this then anyway

[wide oar]

i did and still nothing

my error logs are also just worthless lmao

[jaunty marten]

[wide oar]

yeah idk

could it be how i exported the fbx

does that even matter with weapons

[jaunty marten]

didn't work with weapons so idk

[wide oar]

oh well

i only spent like 10 minutes on it so i dont care

sucks that it doesnt work but i dont feel like smashing zomboid with a hammer repeatedly to figure out what the fuck the shitty obscure log error means

thats the one point i think they should improve on, clarity of the logs, like actually tell me whats wrong dont just throw a random ass error, i still remember my teacher telling us that errors should be helpful and allow the user to figure out what is wrong, and that is nOT what the zomboid ones do.

[rancid tendon]

sometimes you'll get a completely clear error that tells you exactly what the problem is

and sometimes you'll get "Oh no an error! The game crashed. What error? Eat shit"

it's either like 'The error was at line 29 of this specific lua file in this specific mod' or 'An exception was thrown and the game crashed. Sowwy'

also

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/276584745905946624/1068318174065459280/image.png

sharing a little more radio dialogue from something im working on :3

[sour island]

That's a vanilla bug - it's trying to delete those files but has the wrong path (typo: Lua vs Lua) - you can manually delete those files. They're in the Lua folder in your local cache.

Also I'm still not sure why the system is flagging those files to be deleted and why it's trying so hard to delete it

[wide oar]

will that fix my mod?? i dont get any problems with my pistol mod disabled, only when i enable it._.

[sour island]

If you're getting the no file exception deleting the files will fix it. Idk about your mods' issue. Sorry.

[outer citrus]

I really think the Project Zomboid sandbox could really benefit from a musket, something worth considering maybe?

[ancient grail]

Its possible
Just run a checker function then ban if hastrait

[bronze yoke]

i don't think voip goes through lua in any capacity

[ancient grail]

Ban voip or mute idk the exact function to do that but im sure if you can do that as an admin then you can do that via lua

[drifting ore]

that was the part i wondered

[ancient grail]

Ow shiz albion said it cant be done

So ye it cant be done

[drifting ore]

not possible to call anything from java at all here?

[bronze yoke]

admin mute might work but afaik admins can't 'deafen' someone and obviously using admin mute will mute everyone for everyone

[drifting ore]

hmmm