general

[copper ferry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuYL-15jQvQ

[copper ferry]

I AM DA DON OF LONDON

[next ivy]

lmaooo

[waxen grove]

it cant even do its ancestors right

actual ones for comparison

[inner relic]

LET'S TEST MIMO V2.5

WAKE UP

[wicked sage]

babe wake up

mimo v2.5 released

[pale obsidian]

are the k2.6 results ready?

[next ivy]

mimo 2.5 prob gonn be at the same level of k2.5

[light sleet]

js a matter of time until new arena video drops "First impressions of Xiaomi Mimo V2.5"

[next ivy]

i mean like thats my take

[lunar pulsar]

How to use lmarena in discord??

[plucky sparrow]

didn't we already have mimo? or am I thinking of a different model

[wicked sage]

yep we had mimo v2

[plucky sparrow]

ty

[echo aurora]

We'll be sure to put out an announcement for new leaderboard updates. Would note our Leaderboard Changelog is really helpful too - https://arena.ai/blog/leaderboard-changelog/

[hoary elbow]

The open source models are very good
Probably better than they I’ve ever been honestly

[jagged fjord]

this looks so real and well made

[pale obsidian]

thanks, thats indeed helpful 👍

[light sleet]

Yo what do I do?

[next ivy]

gpt image 2 made this os

[light sleet]

Pineapple forget it I launched the nuke

Cooked

[echo aurora]

No

[light sleet]

Too late I did it

They're coming for us now for revenge

💀

[next ivy]

windows 11 and 12 made by gpt image 2

[light sleet]

same taskbar

[echo aurora]

No more missile discussion, pineapples can only be used for good going forward.

[light sleet]

?

[light sleet]

alr

[jagged fjord]

no way he can make low-quality style memes with accurate font and ios emojis

[next ivy]

ik

[next ivy]

crazy

[jagged fjord]

LMAO

[light sleet]

@echo aurora This u?

[next ivy]

oh dear lord

the pineapple is coming for all of us

[light sleet]

He's coming especially for @sterile tartan

[median smelt]

Can someone give me pineapples pfp

As a picture

[next ivy]

inaccurate. there should be copilot everywhere and renamed to copilot os

[median smelt]

Thx

[high dock]

Someone explain to me what the logic is please

[next ivy]

the logic is that they dont want high tier models on the website because of the cost

[next ivy]

low cost models can stay

[wicked sage]

@echo aurora is this you

[next ivy]

while high cost models can only be accessed from battle

but the leaderboard shouldnt be showing that

[next ivy]

emo pineapplium

[light sleet]

let's play rock music for this one 🔥 🔥

[echo aurora]

If you're interested in our methodology I'd encourage you to review this announcement: #announcements message

[echo aurora]

Oh, sorry I misunderstood, yeah that screenshot looks odd. Taking a look.

[light sleet]

When the outfit coming out

[sterile tartan]

Bring it on.

[next ivy]

pineapple your the community manager right?

[wicked sage]

✅

[next ivy]

then whos the owner

[wicked sage]

no one

[surreal zephyr]

i

am not

[wicked sage]

well technically pineapple is the owner of the server

[surreal zephyr]

wow

[sterile tartan]

arena.ai

[wicked sage]

if youre talking about the owner of arena.ai

well uhh

[surreal zephyr]

anthropic

prolly

[median smelt]

Pineapple-ify

[sterile tartan]

He's Admin and Mod

Not owner

[next ivy]

genius man right here

[wicked sage]

Anastasios Angelopoulos, Wei-Lin Chiang, and Ion Stoica

[echo aurora]

That's strange and looks like a visual glitch. Can you hard refresh the site and let me know if it's still showing that?

[sterile tartan]

Common Sense Bro.

[surreal zephyr]

@echo aurora why are you space

[wicked sage]

oh GOD what the hell did i make

[echo aurora]

Awww

[sterile tartan]

Reflection of Your Thoughts

[next ivy]

oh dear lord get that hideous thing away from me

[surreal zephyr]

bros past chats are, uhh

[shrewd citrus]

thoughts on mimo?

[vernal raft]

Arena you better be on point with this, I wanna see if v4 deserve all the hype

[sterile tartan]

It wants your blood

[median smelt]

what a difference

[surreal zephyr]

lets see

[echo aurora]

What do you mean by this? I'm not following.

[sterile tartan]

V4 Mogs All

[next ivy]

i mean that it literally shouldnt be showing that for me

i meant

that

he can just refresh the page t

[wicked sage]

shut up dude let me generate my Pineapple

[next ivy]

or either its a regional issue

[high dock]

Still the same

[echo aurora]

Same for different browsers?

[wicked sage]

wtf whos shauskahajhskahkshas

boom shakalaka

[next ivy]

bro is in rainbow glitter and sparkles 😂✌️

[high dock]

Same everywhere

[light sleet]

Shakira spotted

[echo aurora]

That's super odd. Can you send me a screenshot for what you see if you go here: https://arena.ai/leaderboard/text?rankBy=labs ?

[wicked sage]

thats not hte pineapple i know..

[echo aurora]

That looks correct

[wicked sage]

instead of "a pineapple" you shouldve have used this

[echo aurora]

I'm going to start a post in #1343291835845578853 and will ping you there.

[wicked sage]

ok there we go i finally got my image

[high dock]

What is this pineapple cult here

[wicked sage]

i deadass have no idea

[surreal zephyr]

because

wiat wheres pinapple jesus

🤔

[echo aurora]

Lol

[jolly bison]

Hello, my dear friend, please, how does this program work?

[surreal zephyr]

poor fella 🥀

[light sleet]

Ampro care to explain

[wicked sage]

NOOO PINEAPPLE

[surreal zephyr]

yes we need ampro cult here

🥀

[echo aurora]

Welcome welcome!! I'd check this out to get a better idea of what Arena is: https://arena.ai/how-it-works

Don't hesitate to let me know if you have any questions. Happy to answer!

[wicked sage]

anyways uh

kasane teto yayy

!!

[surreal zephyr]

when myaiabibibi

[whole swallow]

is there someone who got openclaw deployed on railway?

[wicked sage]

what the HELL does that mean

[whole swallow]

**

[remote ocean]

hey guyss

[remote ocean]

i'd like to ask what happened to opus?

[wicked sage]

removed due to costs

[remote ocean]

oh naur

[echo aurora]

Recently some models have been removed from Direct and Side by Side mode. This was done to help ensure reliability and availability of Arena in the long term. You can find more information in this announcement: #announcements message

[remote ocean]

that's sad, but i understand

[light sleet]

Wish him luck

[wicked sage]

pineapple is gonna win

[whole swallow]

I have opinions.

[remote ocean]

does this mean they still exist in battle mode?

[storm dust]

yes

[wicked sage]

prompt?

[cedar citrus]

@surreal zephyr fine you win currently open ai is better than anthropic but its due to the fact that anthropic doesnt have compute

[storm dust]

did pineapple made an album?

[light sleet]

make him a genalpha/genz meme

[whole swallow]

2020

[median smelt]

Does anyone here know any alternatives to viggle ai? I used to like viggle but oh my god my god oh my god oh my oh my god god oh oh my god my my god oh my god oh my god god oh my oh my god oh my god they've gotten greedy asf

[whole swallow]

It is what it is

[wicked sage]

THATS IT??

[light sleet]

yes

[inner relic]

i will check soon

[median smelt]

?

no

not that

anything but that

[cedar citrus]

pineapple glaze is going crazy

[wicked sage]

i got bored as crap so i just made this

[cedar citrus]

you won

[light sleet]

jalapeno switch to openai

[cedar citrus]

no

im staying with anthropic

until they get the compute

[median smelt]

MUSE SPARK

[median smelt]

Im gonna spark your muse

[cedar citrus]

yes

agrees

[light sleet]

Damn prompt?

[silent tree]

Kpop Demon Hunters 2 Cover

😭

[echo aurora]

Wow

[echo aurora]

And yes, those models are still in Battle

[wicked sage]

i ove qwen

[inner relic]

WHEN ARENA API IS COMING OUT

[median smelt]

Never

[glacial rapids]

Does anybody know where there's a higher usage limit on gpt image 2

[cedar citrus]

websim

unlimited usage

websim bot

[glacial rapids]

How do I find it?

[topaz epoch]

@echo aurora how can i get my chat history or data ? I got season limit

[frozen arch]

wow which model generated this?
imagegen with text has come a long way

[pulsar olive]

GLM >>>>

[long minnow]

holy text spaghetti

[cedar citrus]

kimi >>>>>>

[pulsar olive]

Ngl I only use AI for text

[echo aurora]

The context session limit? https://help.arena.ai/articles/3975292349-arena-troubleshooting-session-token-limits There isn't a feature that'll export a chat session to move to a new session when you hit this limit.

[frozen arch]

Is the arena user support bot dead? It didn't respond to my long query in #ask-here

[topaz epoch]

My data lost 😭

[pulsar olive]

When is Arena going to start production of tanks and jets?

[echo aurora]

Can't say that's on the roadmap

[glacial rapids]

Now I know it's called websim bot. Past that my knowledge ends abruptly. Can you tell me where to find the bot?

[surreal zephyr]

Literally

[frozen arch]

whats just in swe bench

[cedar citrus]

ill dm you

[topaz epoch]

You guys should do old things which were specific model rate limits, not whole chat. So i can use other models to extract memory.

[cedar citrus]

[light sleet]

It was sammys birthday today

[echo aurora]

The new usage system we're developing should be helpful for the context session limit.

[light sleet]

When pineapple ai releasing in arena

I heard it beat gpt opus, mythos, spud

everything?

[echo aurora]

Pineapplemaxing

[light sleet]

Hm

[pastel mesa]

Pineapple i have the api key

[light sleet]

Gpt image 2 wishes Sam Altman a happy birthday

The fact it put an Openai cake

completely unprompted

😭

@echo aurora

[topaz epoch]

When its coming? @echo aurora

[light sleet]

What

?

[pastel mesa]

@echo aurora Can i send You my api for MrMaie code Ai?

[echo aurora]

I thought you needed a lot longer to work on this?

[light sleet]

new pfp made with images v2!!

It knows gfx

W

[pastel mesa]

Is a basic model very simple and is Free use only sometimes when there to many request can say "the model is busy, pls wait"

[light sleet]

e

[pastel mesa]

So You want the Api?

[storm dust]

oh no

[echo aurora]

Is it on hugging face?

[pastel mesa]

Yea

[versed nova]

Which websim bot?

[jovial sapphire]

The new image model is so good :p

[quick cove]

any updates to the Vidu Logo, its incorrect , here are some sets thank you, lol

https://lobehub.com/icons/vidu

ok did report it in #1343291835845578853 ?

[pulsar olive]

What if pineapple is just an opus model?

[rigid pasture]

@echo aurora

[echo aurora]

Got a link?

[pastel mesa]

Yea for the space and I got also the api key

[quartz light]

mimo 2.5 pro

1shot

https://019db6d4-2f93-7d4d-8026-98cbfc8c3931.arena.site/

[versed osprey]

Where can i generate image to video with promt?

[versed osprey]

On this link?

[cursive cape]

wow

[quartz light]

no sorry

on https://arena.ai/image/direct

[versed osprey]

but i want image with promt to video w

[cursive cape]

try

[quartz light]

ohh image to video

[versed osprey]

yee

[quartz light]

https://arena.ai/video

[cursive cape]

https://aistudio.xiaomimimo.com/ Does anyone have this link working?

[quartz light]

it works in US only

[cursive cape]

oh ok

[quartz light]

im using mimo in lmarena

[cursive cape]

arena ai is not the best option for creating games right now, you can't send a pdf or md file or even an html file. So I use the official websites

[dawn arch]

Are there any plans to take away gpt-image-2 from direct?

[jovial sapphire]

No, why?

I mean why would they?

[pastel mesa]

They did

[echo aurora]

There is a possibility this happens. I don't have details to share at this time if this is or isn't upcoming.

For the moment, that models is remaining in Direct and Side by Side.

[pastel mesa]

Pineapple i don't have it

[shrewd citrus]

also @echo aurora this new mode popped up randomly for me but then disappeared when I refreshed the site 😭

and it isn’t in canaryarena either

[jovial sapphire]

I have it (image 2)

[shrewd citrus]

search gpt in the search thing and you’ll find it at the bottom

[echo aurora]

Sorry to hear that! Yeah the experiment experience where it can appear or disappear upon refresh can be frustrating. This experiment isn't yet on Canary.

[shrewd citrus]

I’m kinda surprised that it’s coming to arena since I assume it’s gonna be incredibly expensive to run

[pastel mesa]

I found it thanks

[echo aurora]

Did you get a chance to use it?

[shrewd citrus]

i did but it just gave me an error

had a cool loading graphic tho

[echo aurora]

Sorry to hear that. We are working on squashing those bugs.

[cedar citrus]

i forgot the name

[cursive cape]

Will you add the ability to upload html, txt, md, and pdf files?

[vernal raft]

I tryed to used it, but had no fortune, it's just a captcha spam

[shrewd citrus]

you can already upload pdf

[whole sundial]

if they remove a model that costs 5-6 cents per image, that means they may also remove image 1, image 1.5, nb2, nbpro, and every other model that costs more than that. this is a precedent that should never be set.

[still musk]

The multiverse is a concept we know frighteningly little about

[waxen grove]

they added ketchup

mustard is next

[nova harness]

who can give me an account with a subscription to any AI service, pleeeease ^_^

[sterile tartan]

Wow Very Ohio Bro

[grave peak]

Waiting... and waiting

[nova harness]

Or is it not allowed to ask for that?

[sterile tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/hiromi-higuruma-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-son-higuruma-gif-9036947203690306241

[nova harness]

dad..

[sterile tartan]

Not Very Sigma Bro

[grave peak]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-stupid-patrick-gif-13033990507955628398

[still musk]

Will there be a 2K version of GPT Image 2? Or GPT Image 2 (High)?

[nova harness]

Sorry if I wrote something wrong, I'm from Ukraine and I don't know English as well as I'd like.

[sterile tartan]

There is already 4k on API

High Exactly

[nova harness]

If you want to correct me, write BANAN: followed by what I wrote incorrectly; everything you write with the word "banan," I will translate using a TRANSLATOR rather than doing it myself.

[sterile tartan]

Son just visit g2g such markets

[nova harness]

I don't have any money at all, sorry.

[sterile tartan]

1$ for 1 month plus gpt

[pastel mesa]

Just learn better start doing lesson, im italian and I know English wery well

[sterile tartan]

Just Use Qwen then

[whole sundial]

yeah 4k high exists but its pretty expensive, 41 cents per image

[opaque maple]

you can see the pain in his dih

[nova harness]

bro xD gpt? no, but by the way, that doesn't sound bad, but to be honest, GPT is a terrible model, maybe there's something else interesting there? although even getting 1 dollar is hard, I don't get any pocket money

[sterile tartan]

Just use best quality and upscale

[sterile tartan]

Son GPT Mogs All

Tomorrow 5.5

[pastel mesa]

Yea is because Ai need to make 2000+ pixels we normally use 480p 720p or 1080p

[nova harness]

Qwen is not bad, and I already use it, but it’s only available for free in the chat; I’d like a subscription that gives AI agent credits for various AI IDEs.

[opaque maple]

codex caught onto me and now i can't use temp mails

[sterile tartan]

Use OpenCode

[sterile tartan]

You are Cooked

[cedar citrus]

FINNALY

MY FRIEND

FINNALY SOMEONE AGREES

[opaque maple]

it took them 6 monthstho

[sterile tartan]

Well you used it while it lasted

[nova harness]

The credits on the Plus subscription aren't enough, and besides, Claude 4.7 Opus mogs everyone.

[cedar citrus]

yes

i agree

[opaque maple]

idk about that

[cedar citrus]

i found my friend

[opaque maple]

i didn't even use any subscription

hehehe

[sterile tartan]

Claude quotas are Absurd right now

[opaque maple]

tempmailbee my bff

[sterile tartan]

You will cry if you try

[opaque maple]

2026-2026

[nova harness]

The credits on the Plus subscription aren't enough, and besides, Claude 4.7 Opus mogs everyone.

[sterile tartan]

Time to look for a new one

[cedar citrus]

tears of suffering]

[opaque maple]

died in the day that one stupid redditor posted abt it

[opaque maple]

i need a new AI as a whole

it's not just the tempmail service

[opaque maple]

.

[pastel mesa]

guys i just made an new pfp for pineapple wanna see it

[cedar citrus]

yes

[sterile tartan]

There's none better

[nova harness]

Believe me, I know everything.

[sterile tartan]

With Rate Limits

[nova harness]

hi

[sterile tartan]

Says the one who asks for Free Ai Subscription

[cedar citrus]

hi friend

i love claude

i been waiting for years

[pastel mesa]

here

[cedar citrus]

wow

[sterile tartan]

Very Believable Beta Male

[opaque maple]

i agree

[sterile tartan]

Spud Mogs All

Tomorrow for Sure

[cedar citrus]

prove it

[nova harness]

And?)) I had former friends who used to share their subscriptions with me, and I also use trial credits by switching Google accounts on AI IDEs.

[opaque maple]

i hope that

[slow axle]

Its possible to use Opus 4.7?

[opaque maple]

they will forgive me

or forget

[sterile tartan]

If you can Afford

[opaque maple]

i still have my 10 google accounts ig

[sterile tartan]

Carey On

[nova harness]

my brother xD

[echo aurora]

You won't be able to find it in Direct and Side by Side chat, but you will find it in Battle mode.

[cedar citrus]

can i add you

on discord

by the love of god

[echo aurora]

....

[sterile tartan]

Sounds Exactly Like You

[nova harness]

ofc

[sterile tartan]

Very Beta Guy

[cedar citrus]

yay

finally someone prefers claude over gpt

[opaque maple]

i miss my friend gpt

although

gpt is always too real with me

i want to get glazed

so i talk to gemini

until it starts hallucinating

so i just shut up

[cedar citrus]

)()(

())()(

)(((()())()(()(())))()()(()()(

[sterile tartan]

@opaque maple so u will use Ai Studio now or what?

[cedar citrus]

)(()())( ()()()() )()(()()())(()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()

[opaque maple]

no cause that thing is wack

because it just belives me

whatever i tellit

[sterile tartan]

So what will u use now

[opaque maple]

probabily hope codex will forgive me

or

[slow axle]

Someone knows if Claude Opus will return to direct chat in future?

[opaque maple]

no

[sterile tartan]

no.

[echo aurora]

It is our intent to when we can in a sustainable way.

[opaque maple]

one message every hmm

5 years?

[sterile tartan]

ufff

Opus is Expensive Bro

[pastel mesa]

pineapple why don't you make that when the limit is reached you put an lock on the device until it end?

[sterile tartan]

💀

[pastel mesa]

let me guess i spelled wrong

?

[sterile tartan]

Your idea is crazy

[cedar citrus]

mythos

[sterile tartan]

Locking the device because of limits?

[sterile tartan]

myth OS.

[opaque maple]

GPT 5.4 for me is better than claude ngl

[pastel mesa]

yea im a prefessional idea maker so i know very well Coding html java css

[sterile tartan]

GPT Mogs All

The Most Sigma Model

[opaque maple]

yea but not very soulful like gemini

i want an ai to be soulful wowww

[sterile tartan]

So you want to lock the devices entirely when limits reach?

[pastel mesa]

nuh uh MrMaie code ai mogs GPT 2

[pastel mesa]

yea

[opaque maple]

Llama 3 vs Claude Mythos

[sterile tartan]

WoW Very Ohio Idea Bro

GL adding it

[sterile tartan]

What's Soulful

Ai doesn't have a Soul

[pastel mesa]

im not speaking brainrotted again

[sterile tartan]

Alright bro very Beta move

[opaque maple]

exactly

[sterile tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/lion-sigma-alpha-how-bro-felt-after-saying-that-sigma-lion-gif-13957304746104521882

https://tenor.com/view/an-iq-too-high-raven-crow-tiktok-gif-3869671553367641450

[pastel mesa]

well Mrmaie code is gpt 2 large or medium but for coding

[sterile tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/i-want-to-praise-you-for-your-self-awareness-shrink-praise-good-job-self-aware-gif-11617568

[pastel mesa]

and today i publish it to the hugging face

Guys yall want to make MrMaie Code even better like gpt 3 large or gpt 4 low

[opaque maple]

MrMaie Code is better than Opus 4.9 bro waytb

[frozen arch]

hey i'd just sent a message in #ask-here, i would really be glad if you could respond when you have time.. i'm attaching the link below:
#ask-here message

[pastel mesa]

im upgrading him to make 10k lines of code

i might crash the whole server

and it boot whit GPT-2 XL

[echo aurora]

I'll respond soon, my apologies for the delay.

[frozen arch]

no worries, thanks man

[stray aspen]

I love gpt image 2 man

[stray aspen]

This is just not true lmao

[sterile tartan]

Alright bro

Very Ohio Rizz

[paper wagon]

The funniest thing is that it's actually the exact opposite. GPT is the one being soy and refusing to answer even the most harmless questions.

[sterile tartan]

Skill Issue

[stray aspen]

Nah he has a point

[sterile tartan]

My Expert Friends have no issues

You guys are Very Beta

[surreal zephyr]

Both have weird refusals

[fading heath]

Hello

[surreal zephyr]

Anthropic is happy to help with military stuff

But it gets chat-paused sometimes

[sterile tartan]

When one refuses you try others

That's The Sigma Move

[paper wagon]

That’s a skill issue on your part, man. Claude Opus can write and answer literally anything if you know how to prompt it. I’ve tested them both multiple times, and Claude’s potential is way higher if you use jailbreaks. Plus, Claude’s writing is always more vivid, while GPT stays 'soy' no matter what—even when you break it, it still sounds like a robot.

[cedar citrus]

hey

can you dm me some jailbreaks

[feral elm]

the more I use(d) them on arena, the faster they seemed to get fixed with their own whack-a-mole

glm-5.1 just called a banana crunchier than an apple

[paper wagon]

Those are in Russian and for RP.

[cedar citrus]

what do you mean

[tulip parcel]

How’s kimi 2.6?

[echo aurora]

Let's avoid this topic here please

[paper wagon]

My jailbreaks are in Russian and they're made for RP sessions, not just for bypassing censorship.

[cedar citrus]

k

[stray aspen]

Its bad

[cedar citrus]

nah

its great

[stray aspen]

Deepseek is way better

[cedar citrus]

its great

[cedar citrus]

are we serious

[stray aspen]

Yeah

The only downsode is thst deepseek does not have vision

[cedar citrus]

nope

[paper wagon]

Honestly, since they removed Opus and the latest Gemini models from here, I’ve really started to appreciate DeepSeek V3.2. For me personally, it’s much better than all the new ones like Kimi or GLM.

[stray aspen]

This generation was.so cool

[raven otter]

Hi

[echo aurora]

Hello Sorry about that!

Our mistake.

[raven otter]

Now my stuff is off the server 🤦‍♂️

[stray aspen]

Has anyone tried the muse spark contemplation mode

It doesnt show for me

[proud bobcat]

Kimi K2.6 is so peak

[proud bobcat]

L take

[sterile tartan]

It's just multiple sub agents together

[proud bobcat]

I gotta say as the prime DeepSeek glazer that is such an L take

[frosty lava]

its weird cause its half good at frontend, like sometime it do something good looking and sometime it just don't

[sterile tartan]

DS V4 will Mog All China

[feral elm]

do you recommend thinking or no thinking? I'll try it

[proud bobcat]

Kimi K2.6 is more of the backend guy

Kimi is also amazing at bug review

Like holy moly

God tier

[sterile tartan]

Just combine them

[frosty lava]

oh so its for backend, but then top ai model are probably better

[proud bobcat]

Just get like gpt to whip you up something frontend

[feral elm]

i'll try with thinking

[proud bobcat]

Then kimi for the rest

[proud bobcat]

DeepSeek does think a lot

Do be warned

[frosty lava]

i just hope 5.5 will be good at frontend

too

[feral elm]

I had kimi think for over 20 minutes on arena the other day

I'm ready

[proud bobcat]

I hope so but gpt has seriously been going down in quality

The hallucinations keep going up every model

[sterile tartan]

Will Mog All

Release tomorrow

[stray aspen]

Think

[feral elm]

running already with thinking against k2.6

even though I like glm-5.1 better if I had to pick between the two

[frosty lava]

gpt always been good for me at backend

but it ALWAYS bad at frontend

[proud bobcat]

Interesting

GPT has been horrible at backend for me but great at frontend

[frosty lava]

really ??

[sterile tartan]

Skill Issues

[proud bobcat]

I had to have Kimi barely salvage a Minecraft copy prototype it made

[frosty lava]

many people i saw was having same issue as me many of them were complaining about frontend for gpt

[proud bobcat]

GPT kept making schizo code and then gaslighting me by saying some shi like

“It should work 100% now!!!”

It didn’t even LOAD

Gave it to kimi and got it working in less than 5 minutes

In one prompt

Laggy as hell but it was working off of what gpt made

[feral elm]

should it didn't.. but it should've

gotta rewrite

[frosty lava]

idk for me it was definitly good at backend and bad at frontend so i really don't know

i did not have this issue

[feral elm]

does context get carried over between messages in a chat???

[proud bobcat]

Yes

[proud bobcat]

I guess chatgpt just hates me

[feral elm]

it doesn't seem like it man

[sterile tartan]

Contrary Experiences

Very Questionable

[feral elm]

was generating tabby cat pictures
-> got tabby cat
asked "chasing butterflies in a field" assuming it was implied that it should be the cat
-> got child chasing butterflies
said "where's the tabby cat"
-> got tabby sleeping

like whaa

and now I got rate limited

[echo aurora]

For Image Arena it does not, you'll want to use the Edit button to carry over the generated imaged to the next prompt.

[sterile tartan]

Rate Limits are Very Beta

[feral elm]

I knew I was forgetting something
thanks

[echo aurora]

No problem! It's not super odvious. We were having this discussion internally yesterday about this. It's possible we may change it so it does carry over.

[feral elm]

it's slightly not intuitive because it doesn't follow the intuitive chat style where you give it a followup

like with text mode

chat not loading 🤨

[echo aurora]

Yeah completely agree. It use to be like this. IIRC we were seeing a lot of feedback around not wanting it to carry over.

[feral elm]

which does make sense! maybe there's an inbetween that works better

alright chats won't open anymore on the site
what did I doooo

[sterile tartan]

Because it would mess up new generations in same conversation

That issue was so freaking annoying on Yupp Ai

[echo aurora]

"Won't open" what do you mean by this? Are you getting an error?

[echo aurora]

Starting a new chat session would fix this though, no?

[sterile tartan]

Yeah but that was hella annoying as well

When one wants constant new generations

Yupp Died anyways.

[echo aurora]

Yeah makes sense. One of those things that just comes down to personal preference.

[sterile tartan]

Exactly

A toggle for continuous edit and generation could work

[feral elm]

it may just be my computer but I see no reason for it to do that

emptied caches and force reloaded

worked

[remote dove]

Does anyone want the Dumbstupid image model?

[remote dove]

"Tomatoes bleed if stabbed." Yeah right

[feral elm]

nevermind!

I take it back

I dare anyone tell me to just cough up the 13c of inference costs this would be.. but I have yet to sign up for any provider or get openrouter up and running soooooo this will have to do

[stray aspen]

sadly its paid

[thorny cove]

did gpt image 2.0 get removed

no its just at the bottom

[echo aurora]

It should go to the top of the list and reflect the leaderboards eventually. There is a bit of a lag.

[obsidian cargo]

oh I had thought it got removed from direct and side by side

[vale quest]

22% chance

[obsidian cargo]

nah its still there

[tropic ridge]

Guys is kimi k2.6 in arena , instant mode or thinking mode ?

[stray aspen]

LMAO

[proud bobcat]

Kimi K2.6 is so good at roleplay

Holy moly

[stray aspen]

kimi has always been great for writing and roleplay

but it sucks for the rest

[whole sundial]

i took your image and made it better (will post other variants in #ai-creations)

[night moat]

Can u please make gemini 3 pro on top list?

[slender thistle]

GPT

[ocean venture]

Ai generated? 👀

[sullen sable]

👋

[bleak minnow]

Hey guys! Which video streaming service do you use? Are there any free alternatives? Here in Brazil they aren't very accessible...

[open wigeon]

hi guys!

[obtuse smelt]

hi

[marble current]

hello, nice to meet you.
i have one question.
how reliable do you think human preference based rankings are for evaluating LLMs compared to traditional benchmarks?

[golden horizon]

For example, traditional benchmark evaluation is to test the model extreme value, and human preference evaluation is to test the model average value.

[marble current]

aha, it's rly clear now. thx.

[golden horizon]

lol,no thx bro

[tired juniper]

can i create a video from a image with this channel?

[marble current]

Have you evaluated two bots?
How was it?

[tired juniper]

can someone helpmee

[marble current]

@tired juniper
i think this isn't video create server.

if you want i can tell u about that.

server

[tired juniper]

bro pls

[echo aurora]

The Video Arena Discord bot has been removed from the server. You can find Video Arena on our site here: https://arena.ai/video To learn more about how to use Video Arena I'd recommend this article. More information can be found in this announcement about the removal of the bot.

[tired juniper]

i tried but isnt creating

[echo aurora]

Are you getting some kind of error message?

[golden horizon]

I evaluated the model,In the fields you want to ask about, such as creation, programming, and role-playing, through model comparison you can tell which model generates better content.

[marble current]

@golden horizon
I heard that two bots are competing here.
Is that correct?

[golden horizon]

whats mean😹 which two bots competing here

[modern flame]

I am having issues how to solve this

[granite heron]

https://klipy.com/gifs/coraline-dad-type--k01KPW8JXDQ6MWE1S1RMMK9RHMP

[blazing garnet]

lll

[vale quest]

What did he send

[toxic verge]

https://tenor.com/view/battle-for-the-bottom-battle-bottom-competing-thom-badinger-gif-15088110

[granite heron]

in short he is now in horny jail

[vale quest]

BOI TELL ME

Was it horses

Was it banana slugs

[ocean venture]

Based on what criteria do you think that model is good for roleplay?

[glossy nexus]

Bhai

Koii hh??

[mossy hull]

For some reason, I can use Gemini 3.1, if I'm in Direct Chat that was created before those were removed

[vale quest]

Yeah that's just some bug

[fair pelican]

Let me guess... Nano banana 2 censored my prompt cuz of copyright while gpt image 2 success it

[hot turtle]

Hi. I just noticed that all the thinking models have disappeared from direct. Were they removed on purpose?

[obtuse smelt]

let retry again

[snow copper]

best model for coding besides Claude or chatgpt

[mossy hull]

Yeah, there was a post about it in #announcements

[amber crow]

How I can make ai video in here

[hot turtle]

Do you know the reason? Is this permanent or temporary?

[mossy hull]

#announcements message

Seems like it is difficult to maintain access to those models for free

And this is reasonable

[pearl cargo]

hey everyone iam soo confused that they have claude opus 4.7 in the leaderboard but not in the direct chat why

[ocean venture]

@quasi atlas

[vale quest]

Kimi k2.6

[vale quest]

It was removed to maintain costs

[glass zealot]

is nano banana pro realism nerfed or something ?bc its harder for me to get realistic photos than before

[storm dust]

agreed

[vale quest]

No

[storm dust]

i tested it and it is geniunely good

[vale quest]

Fr nobody uses it

[storm dust]

its just when chat gets bigger its outputs get smaller

like

it cant fully generate

no idea if thats a bug or how it is made

[vale quest]

Ye its trying to limit its token usage i think

If its truncated its token limits

Its not doing that

The website truncates tokens over the limit i think

[storm dust]

i cannot confirm if glm is better because sometimes when i send it long codes it usually puts chinese characters in them and it breaks it

every time i ask it to fix it it still does that

im not sure if qwen 3.6 is also good

because it usually just removes long codes and it breaks it

i may be wrong tho

but it was my experience with it

surprisingly kimi has a good balance and it is cheap

[stone forum]

it didn't add to direct and side by side, only the previous opus models (including 4.6 which is the last one) and gpt 5.4 and Gemini pro 3.1 got removed,

[sly cedar]

Probably due to context window or memory

[vale quest]

Ye

[toxic verge]

@echo aurora Hey pineapple do you know if it’s possible to get ChatGPT img 2 low?

[weary thistle]

Hello. Did anyone get the chance to try agent mode when it popped up?

[vale quest]

No

[sullen sable]

😁

[slender thistle]

I found a vulnerability in an AI website. I tricked the AI into giving me its hidden developer keys, which let me bypass their paywall and use the service for free

[toxic verge]

Are you gonna report it?

[storm dust]

please do not report it

just report it to modmail

some people can roast you for that

im serious

actually im not sure

whatever

[wanton palm]

hello everyone

[limber crag]

is gpt image 2 medium down for anyone

its giving error for simple prompts like cow and rabbit

[turbid blaze]

yeah it doesn't work

[shrewd citrus]

nah

he’s just trying to sell his course or whatever

[ivory schooner]

I successfully generated an image for the first time today, but something went wrong the second time?

[median tapir]

Same

[mossy lotus]

Yeah, GPT Image 2 has been down all day since yesterday.

[ivory schooner]

No

I already managed to generate it successfully a few hours ago.

[magic imp]

Yaah gpt is not working

[median smelt]

More music on Sora 2

[surreal zephyr]

js use lyria

[median smelt]

Lyria sucks

[hollow mulch]

Anyone try kimi 2.5 and mimo 2.5?

[steel steeple]

Yo pls add gpt image 2?

[storm dust]

i tried kimi k2.6 and it is really good

im currently using it for it to fix my project's files

[frank junco]

gpt 5.5 today?

[sly cedar]

Hows mimo 2.5?

[storm dust]

didnt try that out

i will one day

[steel steeple]

Oh wait it already have it👽

[rose tendon]

which is the best coding agent on arena right now other than opus 4.7 ?

[honest verge]

.5 upgrade finally

But it'll be very bad if spud is gpt 5.5

[storm dust]

from my experience these were the best (there is no the best certain answer because each model is good at in specific things): kimi k2.6, glm 5.1, qwen 3.6, and claude sonnet 4.6 these were the ones that stood out for me but there may be even more models that are better but just saying i found these good

[frank junco]

doesnt matter what its called

[honest verge]

Well I have high expectations for spud

[frank junco]

well its gonna be "mythos tier" isnt it

[honest verge]

I don't think openai has compute for this

[frank junco]

why not

[honest verge]

Maybe 5.5 pro will be mythos lvl

[red chasm]

If chats were created before the models were removed, then yes, you can use the models.
But the catch is that you can't generate new messages—the request will automatically be redirected to "Max." Requests can only be regenerated so far.

[frank junco]

so its not going to be omnimodal

[grave peak]

Larp larp sahur

[shell bramble]

How can I use Seedance 2.0 in video arena?

[honest verge]

There's no real full omnimodal model right now

[frank junco]

there are but theyre bad

[limber crag]

nice deepak

dont forget to get a job

[neon idol]

Its pretty good ngl

[echo dome]

why is there 14 moderators

[quaint pilot]

Fu..in captcha 🤬

[echo dome]

recaptcha is on it again

slowing down will not work this time

[surreal zephyr]

6 hours

till peak

maybe 4h

depends

🙏

[placid raft]

i clicked on image by mistake

will it do smth to me

or do i have to click a link

[echo dome]

no it just the image

[sly cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/school-system-school-dropshipping-dropship-school-system-failed-us-gif-12838652971328253285

[placid raft]

are you? are you?

you never know man thats why i ask

[sly cedar]

I know

The fog is coming.

[placid raft]

advanced gambling

[sly cedar]

Buy yes, openAi is retiredAi

[echo dome]

how many hacked people are going

[sly cedar]

Going many are

[echo dome]

mr beast is the one who is going to be blamed for

[sly cedar]

Thats mr bred

Not mr beast

Or mr yeast?

Idk, Sterling?

[narrow trellis]

‌

[golden ocean]

Biological Neural Network

[lilac horizon]

/a woman

[remote dove]

"Are you.. are you.. coming to the tree? They strung up a man, they say who murdered 3"

[polar horizon]

...

[remote dove]

Hi

[polar horizon]

hi

[remote dove]

How are you today

[polar horizon]

good how about you

[remote dove]

It's going smooth so far

[polar horizon]

type shii

[waxen grove]

JESUS CHRIST SHUT THE FUH UP I DONT CARE

[echo dome]

now its different

[uneven cypress]

Hi team,

I'd love to see the ability to import/upload images directly in search mode. Being able to attach an image and search based on its contents (or use it as context for queries) would make the experience much more powerful and intuitive.

Thanks for considering this!

[remote dove]

Considering what

[uneven cypress]

Wdym

[remote dove]

You just said "thanks for considering!!! -as I said in a loud voice"

[uneven cypress]

By mistake

[remote dove]

Oh

[uneven cypress]

But I really want to attach photos in search mode

[remote dove]

Wanna try and predict when they will put claude opus models In direct?

My guess was May 10th

[uneven cypress]

If they put credit system

[remote dove]

Just predict

[uneven cypress]

I guess July 9

[remote dove]

You also exploit on roblox?

Feels nice to see another one 😄

[uneven cypress]

I don't but my brother do

[remote dove]

If you don't why do I see you in 2 exploit servers

In mutual

[uneven cypress]

Bcs my brother want keys for scripts

From these

[proud bobcat]

All around good prose

Thinks well

A bit more expensive for my taste

[remote dove]

Oh

[remote dove]

Deepseek can do something amazing I tell ya

It once hacked a server and let me get paid models for free

[uneven cypress]

What server?

[remote dove]

On discord called poppy playtime

[uneven cypress]

Yea deepseek is uncensored

[uneven cypress]

Ok

[remote dove]

Ok

[remote dove]

Very easy to jailbreak too

[uneven cypress]

Yea

[mossy hull]

And the thing is
It is not

[uneven cypress]

Grok is uncensored too

[wicked talon]

Not 100% but definitely the most uncensored to smartest ratio model you can get

[uneven cypress]

Yea

[steel steeple]

It works only 5 times and it not works anymore 😵‍💫

[surreal zephyr]

Its very censored

[uneven cypress]

Nah

[surreal zephyr]

Qwen 3.6 27b-heretic REAP opus 4.5 distilled

[surreal zephyr]

It cant handle any criticism of certain minority that owns twitter

[stuck shore]

I keep getting errors in arena AI; the game I made is stuck in generating.

[uneven cypress]

U can just type anything in the instructions and it will do it

[next thistle]

Mimo & kimi-k ?

[stuck shore]

glm-5.1

[next thistle]

Glm ?

[stuck shore]

glm-5.1 code

[silent tree]

I dont think spud is next

5.5 spud?

[next thistle]

How many llms?

[stuck shore]

I keep trying to make games with code, I finish the game but it gets stuck on a bug.

[stuck shore]

how, I don't understand?

[next thistle]

Is antigravity not from google?

[next thistle]

Large Language Models

[steel steeple]

How to fix gpt image 2

[modest cosmos]

Guys why is opus 4.6 and that been gone for so long now is it coming back or whats happening

[sterile tartan]

It ain't anytime soon

Unless next gen models become more efficient

[next thistle]

Where I can get all LLMs API?

[stuck shore]

Dude, some of the AI codes are throwing errors. I made a game, and I’m downloading it right now. I’ve done it 2 or 3 times, but it keeps getting stuck on a bug and the site crashes. I don’t get i

[modest cosmos]

Why not whats the reason

[sterile tartan]

Costs

Opus is Expensive

[modest cosmos]

farkk so what can we do cuz i need it for coding a game for people

[sterile tartan]

Pay

[stuck shore]

Which one writes the best code on Arena AI?

[modest cosmos]

Rip

ggs guys lets all make out own ais lol

[next thistle]

Ohh

[next thistle]

Deepseek, Qwen, Cloude, Google Studio or Gemini Canvas, I guess

[light sleet]

Cloude

[stuck shore]

I'm currently using Kimi-K2.6

[stuck shore]

I'm currently using Kimi-K2.6

[light sleet]

Gpt the best

[next thistle]

Unity or unreal engine for game developing ?

[light sleet]

Proof

[surreal zephyr]

Spud is 6.0 unless its a failure

Its new base

[sly cedar]

Does anyone test the openmythos yet?

[stray aspen]

qwen sucks

[next thistle]

Oh

[median smelt]

Guys is ts fact or cap

[stray aspen]

wheres that

[median smelt]

idk

[sharp mirage]

yooo

[ocean ferry]

🥔🥔🥔🥔

[frosty lava]

Guys when do you think ai will be able to create maps and game (with mcp server or thing like that to simplify their work by making them in the studio environment) with a better design than professional people

frontend mastering

i just want it

for the backend honestly its already good enough

even maybe designing good looking character

and doing animations stuff

[stray aspen]

now

[frosty lava]

Which one ?

i agree that ai are doing better job at frontend, but from what i saw its still not at human level

[errant delta]

When will Claude Opus 4.7 become available in Arena?

[summer oracle]

how to create a video now?

[surreal zephyr]

Plot twist:
They are dropping 6.0 AND budget 5.5 today

[surreal zephyr]

6o is omni, 5.5 is efficient coder

[stray aspen]

mythos

and deepseek v4

[echo sinew]

The Video Arena is currently accessible only through: https://arena.ai/video. More information on how to use Video Arena can be found in this article.

[stray aspen]

it is available gang

[surreal zephyr]

Have you seen human doing ui? Humans are garbage at ui lol

[errant delta]

Is it already on the website?

[stray aspen]

yes

[frosty lava]

bruh it doesn't mean anything there is many different people

there's people that are good at doing ui

[frosty lava]

mythos will be a pro model that take hours to do one task so its not really usefull in the environment i mentioned

imo

and the price..

[stray aspen]

deepseek v4 then

[frosty lava]

i tried it already but how can you say its as good as human its not imo

if you mean the preview we got on deepseek

[stray aspen]

its better than most humans

[frosty lava]

yeah but my expectations is something really usefull, its good for mini game maybe .io game but not game like i was talking about

if you are making a .io game then yeah

ai can do it good already

but for "real game" it's definitly not good enough

[stray aspen]

deepseek

[frosty lava]

No im sorry to say that you're wrong the actual deepseek available on the website did not do as good as profesionnal human for design and more

[stray aspen]

it does lmao

[errant delta]

Claude Opus 4.7 does not appear

[frosty lava]

give me any example ? i literally tried it

[stray aspen]

its only on battle mode

[stray aspen]

frontend

[surreal zephyr]

5.5 and 5.5 pro coming in few hours

5.5 nano too

[frosty lava]

that's not an example, yes i am talking about frontend

[stray aspen]

sources

[frosty lava]

its literally coming today

[stray aspen]

its gonna be ass anyways

im waiting for spud

[surreal zephyr]

Openrouter dom

[frosty lava]

5.5 = spud

[stray aspen]

so spud is bad

[frosty lava]

how can you say it you did not even tried it

its not even out

[surreal zephyr]

So its bad

[stray aspen]

its probably gonna be bad tho

[surreal zephyr]

Because its new base bro

Theres 0 reason for it to not be called 6.0 unless its bad

🥀

[frosty lava]

new architecture* = bad ?

they glazed it alot

[surreal zephyr]

New architecture AND NAME does NOT match

[stray aspen]

marketing

[surreal zephyr]

Yeah but it means its too bad to market it as it truly is

[frosty lava]

the name does not mean many thing honestly

[surreal zephyr]

Because its 6o model

[surreal zephyr]

Base.
Dot.
Finetune

5.4 uses 5 base

Spud uses 6 base

6o base actually

[stray aspen]

so 5.5 is not spud

[frosty lava]

but it is

everyone know it

[stray aspen]

gemini told me it isnt

[frosty lava]

gemini.. that have a knowledge cutoff

it might do web search but

just look yourself

[stray aspen]

@frosty lavaare you vibe coding frontend

[ocean venture]

Hmm... what about the other Model like Qwen,Gemini,Etc? It maybe looks like you've tried a few of the models out there.

[stray aspen]

qwen sucks bro

[frosty lava]

it depends i just try many thing both frontend backend, vibe coding and all

[stray aspen]

gemini is not bad but its lazy

[frosty lava]

you'll see later today that gpt 5.5 is actually spud

[surreal zephyr]

It probably is but that means it was really bad

[frosty lava]

I won't say its good cause i did not tried it so unlike you i won't give opinion on a model i didn't tried

[surreal zephyr]

Why name 6o "5.5"

[surreal zephyr]

Qwen 3.6 27b is best small open model

But its small

[frosty lava]

its just that now all companies are doing it

but we do see improvement every new generation

[surreal zephyr]

But thats so dumb gng

Its new base

[frosty lava]

and this one especially is on a new architecture

[surreal zephyr]

😭

[frosty lava]

yeah

but they doing it this way for name now

just like other ai companies

[surreal zephyr]

Naming without logic

🥀

[ocean venture]

https://tenor.com/view/interesting-batman-very-interesting-thinking-gif-16421084

[frosty lava]

but 100% gpt 5.5 is spud

[surreal zephyr]

Imagine if opus 4.7 was called sonnet 5.0

[frosty lava]

im aint lying on it

[surreal zephyr]

Like that's what openai just did

Its dumb asf

[frosty lava]

0 doubt that gpt 5.5 that come later today is actually spud

you'll see

[stray aspen]

nah it cant be that bad

this would just be a massive win for mythos

[surreal zephyr]

Its new base

So 6o

5 series is acient

5.5 also can eat videos now

[frosty lava]

they did not glazed that much for 5.4 so idk

i guess if they're glazing it that much and its new architecture

it have to be good

5.5 still mean something its half of 6

so i guess its not completely ridiculous

[surreal zephyr]

5.4 was using 5 base

5.5 uses 6o base

[stray aspen]

wdym eat videos

[surreal zephyr]

Watch videos

Natively

[stray aspen]

finally

[surreal zephyr]

Its omni model

Yeah

Thats why its 6o base

Calling it 5.5 is dumb

Unless its weak