#[SPOILERS] Star-Crossed World
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:(
It’s her
Oh is that ikegami mention
Yes
THERE IT IS
oh my god
I need to learn Japanese so bad
Avengers assemble
I'm trying so hard not to die laughing at work
Thanks for letting us know I need Neichel lore
say hi to kodama san
no same lmao ishikawa was the first i saw
Kodama!!
ITS MENTIONED
THE
||unfinished track||
THE THING
its funny there is literally no mention of mefilis lol
when the
||FL interview not mentioning endgame stuff at all while this goes straight to 100% moment lol||
hes not important
neichel is
||that last song sure was unfinished||
same energy as music fest showing morpho knight in FL but not showing anything about elfilis
I mean mfs will mention morpho knight 10 years before elfilis so makes sense they don't talk about mefilis but talk about post mefilis
yeah LOL
here's the part that was mentioned earlier, how ||unfinished track wasnt made as a kirby game song, but as a neichel's personal emotions||
||Neichel: "Born to vocaloid, forced to Kirby"||
I gtg afk for a few but dang
yukkuri if you can send me the scans (here or DMs) I would love you forever I need to translate it asap (I will credit you for it)
thought ogasawara was the vocaloid fan of the bunch but hes just vocalorock maybe kato is the pop guy
neichel and yuki kato are the next yoasobi guys 🤯
I'm crying, ||The song is about the thing that happened in the past and future that she dreamed of. Sorrow song, pretty much. This song was written as the final song to express her true and honest feelings about herself, and she might've felt happiness||
Thanks for that, now I’m sad
||Oh… thats sad||
||Dude really said "One must imagine Neichel happy"||
it all started with meteor shower arrival....
||https://youtu.be/e7hEfR8S-74?si=ofk6OG447Irdmo9c|| ||with what…||
Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLon7aIPHE1QRHW3PVFinNjl_O11SZRE20
Stage music for Meteor Shower's Arrival and the beginning of Lost in Alivel Mall. Composed by Hirokazu Ando.
Disclaimer: This audio is recorded from the game because nobody has been able to dump the audio files yet. Once I can find a clean gamerip of Kirby and t...
|| wait, what if the vocals present in scw’s ost are representative of neichel||
||So in my words, Neichel used to be a happy person but after the meteor showers, she became depressed||
That's the exact opposite of what that said
????
||It said that last song is a slightly sad song that lets you see the past events of this world and the future that neichel saw, and neichel must have been happy in the end b/c she was able to express those feelings in song||
the theme of this game's music is "voice of singing"...
||Now I understand thanks!||
Hal room fits with that ig
I called it
lol ando had to remake the meteor shower's arrival because it sounded too climatic
Lol
WAIT so is there another version?
||Ando composing the most dire song you’ve ever heard for the first stage||
it already sounds like a last world theme lol
and we heard it :)
Where?
Oh wait
I wish they'd left the beta version in the sound test.
I honestly forgo
This says that Mario was neichel btw fun trivia
wahoo!
NO WAY
Ohh is it beast pack one?
The original version of the song is now known as the later part of Crystal Beast Pack Volcano Battle, they just went "yeah lets just use it as the final stage song"
||was it gonna be fucking Beast Pack Volcano Battle||
Oh my god
that is funny

ando moment
I knew it
Banger mentioned!
Are there more things in the interview?
Probably
Can't believe HAL just raided Yukkuri's house
at the end of the interview kuma confirms there will be no more kirby games other than air riders sequels
THE HAL NINJAS ARE FUCKING REAL?!
the veterans....
Oh nvm
That means air riderers is confirmed…
nvm they mentioned about mefilis without saying mefilis
||talks about how the song attracted the final enemy, hence why the chorus becomes stronger||
lol
kirby cafe
||Mefilis really said: “no music!”||
No more lore
I can’t breath
The end
Wait, so this one wasn't the full version?
||so was it really both of them that were attracted by the songs? lmao Neichel when she accidentally caused the prophecy x2||
makes sense, base FL one had spillover too
Nah we getting an expansion pack for the interview
||Imagine your music being so damn good you attract planet destroyers||
Even the interview gets DLC
||Wasn't Meteonelfilis attracted there because of Elfilis?||
||partially why I asked||
Yukkuri are you sure that line isn't just talking about elfilis
hard to say
||it legit sounds like mefilis but also like if he means by the final "final" boss it would be elfilis||
so whats the interview
the japanese community seems to be thinking its mefilis
||Neichel, Canvas Curse mention, Magolor Mention etc||
||(which is still confusing considering mefilis was attracted by elfilis, unless bro was also partially attracted by the song as well)||
LOL
I do like that track
||like which "last boss" are you talking about exactly" come on. the context from everything else sounds like its about mefilis but the lore context wise its about elfilis Im going to find you kuma||
It's like
||"The final enemy's theme also strongly features a gradually increasing chorus section, letting you imagine the presence of an enemy that was drawn in through song. Please make sure to play to the end and have a listen!"||
Im going to find kuma
this single sentence is confusing the entire japanese community that read the interview rn
Can I find him with you?
the two funny screenshot
okay whoever that wants the scan dm me because I dont wanna send it publically and get executed
slides in your DMs
Also slides into DMs
in exchange of magolor /s
I think the slide is broken
kirby slide
The slide auto-locked onto an enemy you were barely facing b/c you're in spring breeze
maybe its about ||Lord of Chaos||
because they did add more ||vocals to it||
The name 
I have the sacred texts
Gigi is an ancient
too bad I already sent it to ishikawa
Can I send it to Kumazaki?
NO
Can I send it to heaven?
Thanks for the lore Yukkuri! 🫡
800 yen well spent
funniest thing of the interview so far for me is how kumazaki's parts are always like twice as long as ninomiya's LOL
800 yen doesnt sound that bad
kuma yaps
It’s bad for me 😭 😭
I’m a broke uni student
I can’t work atm so I don’t have money
it's so long....taking up nearly the whole column of text lmao
this is actually so funny kumazaki casually goes "main game of FL has the focus on you running through a new world"
okay it's all transcribed but I need a break now (OCR readers OP lol though I have to format them properly often)
when I try to use them they always get the furigana too and I have to edit it out...
oh yeah that sucks when it happens
so? have you played it yet? have you? huh?
No I have not! 
Technically not because I bought the game and then the DLC, not the whole set.
||reminds me of trying to dodge FATAL ERROR||
haha i just found this message by you!
congrats! i did the same a few days ago as well :3
(i think i finished some 3 days after you did)
i had to go grind for over 600 rare stones using the glitch cuz i only had like 30 on me x.x (so i really did get 8 copies with just rare stones)
thankfully, i was at least able to use a macro on my controller to do the actual trading!
by the way, i’d be curious to know if you remember your best time on glitched cup :o
wondering how low it can be brought~
-# it seems like a very odd speedrunning category
idk why but ||Ultimate Extra Stars!|| doesn't have the same melody but it has the same progression as Song of Supplication
Like
it shares vibes with A Forgotten Flash of Lightning
hey it's not the weirdest similarity
the ||unfinished neichel song|| sounds like a certain song from Persona 4 at times, though the vibe similarity is clearly just a me thing and the melody isn't even close
me when a kirby music track references another and it's very minor: it's peak
||thays just laika but with the owner goign to space too instead||
||makes sense that song isnt kirby is a fking lamprey hole||
one of these days theyre eventually gonna use like
||Isolated Isles: Forgo Dreams|| as an arena boss theme
That day im going to feel old as hell
They're already ||using magolor epilogue boss themes||
late af but i meant ||Heaven||
does someone have a list of every leitmotif in radiant theia
very minor thing from the interview: the ones who selected which stages would get starry stages was HAL
||Oh the last jump of ZEX Gorimondo is repositioning and not just random bullshit ig that makes sense||
i must bring it up again
why isnt fecto forgo (chimera) a time limit instakill
ik general is a better place for this but like WHY
Just to be nice to little kids playing the game i think
the fight isnt even that hard + you'll usually beat him long before you get to where the hall ends
Right but we're grown adults. They're designing this to be beatable by a 5 year old
even a kid could, that battle is the easiest part of the final bosses gauntlet
yes but so is the next form
They probably could but the scene is scary enough as is, I don't blame them for wanting to go easy on it
which is significantly harder
They prob would have made it instakill 30 years ago when standards for designing these bosses were different
i mean iirc kumazaki even said they probably made elfilis too hard
too hard for 7yo standards
also sillydillo has an instakill in a similar manner
Sillydillo is a bit jerkish for little kids but the segment you fight it in doesn't have as high of an intensity - I think with fecto forgo being the 3rd boss you fight in a row they didn't wanna overwhelm the player with a time limit
You mean the cage mashing attack that takes 10 seconds to kill?
IDK 10 seconds is too long for an "insta"
yes and elfilis is still hard to me lol
it's not like DMS or Nightmare Orb where the fight is challenging on top of having a time limit
base forgo is similarly easy
i dont see why an instakill would be too hard, especially when the boss has a very generous time limit
heck, maybe even make him attack a few times once he's at the end of the hall before actually doing the kill
to be fair, when I first fought fecto forgo, I didn't realize it was a boss at first
||Oh wow Phantom MK uses Downward Spiral Party a lot more in ZEX, awesome||
Would just make the finale a lot to process for a little kid - i think they just wanted the surprise factor of the fight to be the main thing and not have you deal with a time limit at the same time
I could see a kid just running from it and then getting insta killed, frustrated lol
def agree that it FL was a 90s game it would be an insta kill with a time limit though
It takes like three full minutes to reach the end of the hallway so like idk I wouldn't mind if little timmy got slapped in the face on that

did you not see his boss healthbar...
I didn't
it's closer to 4 minutes
clearly they should've added a spicy curry mode where every boss has an instakill move 
kodaka making a kirby game 
yeah you have plenty of time
3.75 minutes (i think?) is plenty of time
kirby vs monokuma||/junko|| danganronpa (huge danganronpa 1 spoilers)
the funny thing is that I thought fecto forgo was a OHKO if I touched it
I thought I had to just run for a while
(modern) kirby wouldnt do that ...
this video's length 
tbf if this was old kirby maybe they'd make touching him a one shot kill
and I think I did for like 1-2 mins until I went "wait why is it stopping and trying to attack me sometimes"
"oh is that a HP bar"
"I'm stupid"
i feel like a few seconds after his final charge they should grab kirby and swallow him whole or something
So silly for them to make Fecto Forgo an actual boss to fight in the Ultimate Cup
Bro is NOT DESIGNED for more than 3 abilities
nah i think it's fair enough BUT
why is it a seperate battle from elfilis
in the cup
Most of the time you're just running
beating forgo should just send you straight to elfilis
On a no-damage context, with a melee ability, this fight is a slog
Completely different fights I suppose
fair enough
Would have been cool to get ||a real re-fight of this thing in UCZEX||
NO
imagine forgo in an open area
It'd just melt helplessly
like imagine if after beating chaos-elfilis he degraded backwards into chimera forgo instead of turning into the orb
or maybe had forgo as an interstitial and then the orb (something something final fantasy 7)
sloshy jello
i mean he KIND of had form i guess
i mean i guess
here's an idea, your opinion on if it's cool or dumb:
forgo leon could have looked more "chimera"
maybe make it so black, smoky versions of elfilis's horns and ear wings appear from leon's head (and maybe they even disappear when forgo comes out during the desperation attack)
would it be too cluttery
if the wings were folded in around him at all time
tbf Stage 1 Clanky Woods also exists
don't think it has visible health bar but I could definitely see people mistaking it as something like that either way
think they'd have to redesign all thought beast enemies if they did something like that
since Forgo Leon's design is literally just that
the funny
the shadowy mind connection
just make these enemies have the purple brainwashing aura
no make the black smoke unique to when leon is possesed
all the enemies in the truck segment should just have the purple mind control aura from leongar phase 2
and probably the same with the soul carrying enemies
(and tbh the base game ex minibosses should have had it too)
heck maybe even make it so when forgo is out of leongar, leongar changes to his brainwashed design instead of keeping the black smoke (and make the shockwave bomb forgo into a projection like chaos-elfilis's giant impact was)
damn
anyways funniest thing about base FL is that elfilis and kirby probably don't know what we the audience know
that elfilis's attack caused EVERYTHING
for kirby, it's another threat trying to destroy people
for elfilis, it's another thing standing in its way
to the audience, it's kirby finally seeing the root cause (the absolute most root cause of the events)
kirby probably doesnt have a lore corkboard in his house, and elfilis was stuck in the forgotten land the whole time
kirby's too carefree to care about that stuff
yeah
for him, the day is saved and its nap time
(best one of these because Bandee is not sleeping on the side of the bed nor is he falling off)
and for elfilis
"no my petty hatred of fun is ruined!"
it's also funny how scw gave elfilis ||the most petty motive in franchise history||
they ||hear people dancing and singing on a planet and want to destroy it||
elfilis is def one of the most developed villains in this series
even more notably, i think overcoming generational pain is a theme in this series
like there are so many cases where something from the present is ultimately caused by something prior in some kind of twisted cycle
elfilis, however, having such a petty motive makes sense because it seems that they ARE the start of the cycle
ehh kinda
the main reason I like their depraved nature is because of the fact that they're the spark
the opening act that causes all the chaos of the series
i like a lot of the modern villains over the older no-personality-or-motive ones (though dark matter is cool too)
(b)oid
void is a can of lore worms that no one can win
the main debate about it now is that if void termina even has a role outside of star allies
and if so, what?
🤷♂️
i think there is some connection to dark matter (perhaps void is responsible for zero's existence somehow???)
but like not enough to confirm
void copying dark mind (somehow) is also the reason why I still believe the eye/central part of dark mind is meant to be mirror 0 (zero would fit the japanese dark mind manual backstory about dark mind being a hivemind of reflected evil people)
I wonder how zero would feel about these pale imitations
i wouldn't know
end of spoilers today
Finally no more SCW
End of Stargellion
Back in the day, extra stages were just a bonus for 100%-ing a world...
But nowadays you kids just get TWO of them for just beating a boss
oh so the scw levels are less robobot or star allies and more triple deluxe?
(you didnt need rare keychains...)
good
I liked that the TD extra levels actually had some bite to them
particularly 6-7 and that disappearing block segment
They're in a league of their own
About 2 tiers above these 3
damn
i WISH i could play them
i like it when the extra stages actually have bite to em
Believe me
They bite
In fact
They bit my lower half off
But they were fun as hell
Those sign sections kicked my ass but I had so much fun
I still feel disappointed in the robobot and star allies extra stages
probably just me but the triple deluxe ones were actually harder
(again 6-7 had a mega man yoku block homage)
glad to hear someone else say that Triple Deluxe actually had tougher Extra Levels compared to Robobot and especially Star Allies, but yeah, I think SCW offers a greater level of challenge compared to even TDX, mainly because of the missions.
Yeah the triple deluxe stages kicked my ass and i love it
Not as much as star crossed world
But definitely hard asf
yeah those levels are underrated and I'm glad to hear that SCW continues on and expands the concept of extra stages in ways that go beyond that
Triple Deluxe's 6-7EX Stage must surely be the toughest 2.5D Modern Kirby stage, I loved mastering it by replaying it tons of times
I feel like extra mode in rtdl is like
Alrighy
Wish they bit more level design wise
I'd argue the HIAD stages from SA are also in the running
oh yeah, absolutely if you also include the bosses at the end of those stages, but platforming wise I feel they are easier overall
Oh yeah they kicked my ass
I loved hiad
the main thing with the HIAD levels is the hearts and some segments being hard to keep track of (even discounting the big bosses)
though I'd argue 6-7 EX is on par
heck it's arguably harder platforming wise as you said (again if I had to say hardest single platforming segment, that yoku block segment 1/3rd of the way through the level is the hardest single segment)
it's just that HIAD levels feel longer and are way more packed with easy to miss stuff, while there are only 3 main collectables in 6-7 (the 4th one, which is sun stone 3, is free)
that's the paradigm of which level is harder
i assume scw levels are on par with if not beyond HIAD levels
based on what i'm hearing
A couple of SCW missions are definitely more cryptic than anything seen in HiAD, for sure. Levels need to be explored very carefully, and it's tougher since this is done in a 3D environment compared to a 2.5D one
the ones I hated the most are the "find x of an object" missions.
those were annoying in base FL
played the first world with my dad and I couldnt find one of the torches in the tunnel level
Part of me wishes we got to see more of certain areas (we have london but no level in big ben?)
but I'm glad with what we saw
Same
Had to book it lmfao
Wait
||Damage kirby every frame 😭||
||DEADLY SUN||
faye you should get hired by HAL atp
He probably did lmfao
That's why ||lord of chaos was so damn hard||
Although you have to hold back in order to not become a troll boss
Last post is Magolor killing Mefilis
He’s not in the game 
Wanna bet?
Magolor is in the game
(Source: Check the past adventure)
Oh you right
why
Why not
why
Who said you needed rare keychains?
Hmm
Thinking about it now
Why didnt forgotten land have rare figurines like rare keychains/stickers
Maybe it would be a bit much with the missions or something
I mean there's also already one-off figures elsewhere
some others were also Gotcha Machine only to begin with
Yeah but why arent there any stage exclusives
it'd probably be too much, as I was saying
stuff like bit of the Waddle Dee figures, etc.
Oh yeah i know wjat you're talking about
Considering Waddle Dees are already like
Hyperspecific
i dont think they need hidden special figures in stages
technically its less that they're inherently gotcha exclusive and more that like
the item version is set to only give a certain rarity or better
they kinda expect you to use the gotcha machine the whole way to begin with
oh yeah and not to mention even bit of the random figures having other requirements to unlock
like Ability Evolution-related ones obviously
Rare Stickers and Keychains were just decorative
Figures are decorative but theyre also the main text dump
Me on my way getting spoilered the final boss before meeting the final boss
I did enjoy stickers being able to be stuck to your robot
Oh yeah that sucked ass lmfao
They should've been arena prizes
Or they could have not unlocked the ex levels that give them until you beat the final boss
Boo
It’s fine, don’t worry about it
Funny Extra stages when they're labeled with a higher number than the boss stage but people play them first anyway b/c going back for them is annoying
Man i hope that extra stages return and are star crossed world levels of difficult
It honestly gives me weird feeling whenever I don’t finish every stage before final boss
And, well, Sectonia jumpscare
I mean Star Crossed World basically is extra stages if there were two per level instead of 1
They really were my missing peice from forgotten land i didn't realize i needed
just take the exclusivity of the final area sharing 2 and then apply that to the rest below it
may have found my favorite ||synthv cover of last song https://youtu.be/nmY2D9gYEOE?si=_vOf5iZORM8uUVpA||
なるべくNEICHELさんっぽく発声を似せて歌ってもらいましたが、あくまで別人の声を無理やり寄せているだけなのでご容赦ください。
↓デフォ子バージョンはこちら
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjEdut1T3Ak
◆原曲
未完/ラストソング (NEICHEL Unfinished Track)
【星のカー...
||Its absolutely hilarious to me whenever people mention how the vocal cover was how they were spoilered with the unfinished track
||
Like, they never got spoilered with Mefilis, or actual UCZEX content, new figurines, or other music, but ||Unfinished Track||
Absolute cinema
Oh yeah, btw this thread closes in about 30 min
I’m excited to invest my money on his merch
I want to steal it
that'd make him really sad
y'know I'm suprised I haven't seen fanart of astrodee kissing wise dee
i thought it would be a constant
3 minutes
it's been 33 minutes
are you closing at 9 flat
no yukkuri fell into a hole leading to another dimension
big ears
they're pretty fun
also Rest in Peace Chaos-Elfilis's original spear, you had aura
