bl1-2-tps-media

[tawdry shell]

i find both mods to work a lot better combined with BLassic

well feel more natural at least, fun way to play the game

[wheat harbor]

smh but lilith best character in the game?!?!

most characters in bl1 dont have gun damage, only bullet, which is
super weird
totally fucks over launchers and means the elemental procs dont get boosts

the only gun damage skills in the game are scattershot, caliber and killer

[wind token]

all which dont remind me of what they actually do so seemingly only by shit classes

[wheat harbor]

hm?

[wind token]

i dont know the skill names

=> i dont know which classes they are on

=> they are not on krieg

=> they are on shit classes

[tawdry shell]

bruh

[wheat harbor]

scattershot is roland's shotgun accuracy damage skill
caliber is mordi's sniper damage skill
killer is mordi's damage reload speed kill skill

[wind token]

oh so even a game that i havent played properly

but not brick so

[tacit igloo]

I wonder how broken Bombardier brick would be in BL2

Was playing as him last night with the nidhog and it’s a cake walk in every area

Aw man there’s only Lilith,Roland and Mordi rn

No brick mod

[primal flare]

Any one trying to run takedowns

[serene escarp]

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[fair sluice]

context: #borderlands-2 message

[tall surge]

try going to the gulag

[fair sluice]

friendship gulag?

[tall surge]

yes

[tawdry shell]

rip my money but eh

should last a few levels i think

[lofty flame]

Holy shit fire locked Rhino

[tawdry shell]

[real oracle]

why is your gamma so high

it looks like you screenshotted a picture of your monitor

[tawdry shell]

my reshade preset messes with the rairty colors a bit iirc

[nocturne mist]

it looks like a youtube tutorial recorded on an ipad facing a tv from 2013

[nocturne mist]

@swift forge @real oracle

[real oracle]

i know what randomizer looks like

[nocturne mist]

help im scared i found like a corossive flaker hive hybrid

that with prazma cannon im running on 2 frames..

everythings dead though so its ok

[swift forge]

that's def an etech launcher

[nocturne mist]

its prazzma cannon

[dire rock]

PBFG is one of my favorite BL2 guns

Idk if it technically counts as a prazzma though, I forgot which manufacturer prazzma is

[cunning sable]

Bandit

And its the worst of the 3 etech launcher types

[real oracle]

wym counts

[tiny thorn]

Hey there everybody...
Just started UVHM.
Can I get some advice on what I should be looking for gear-wise? Thank you very much!!

In addition to the photos, I have:
67k Armored Turtle, 4k recharge / 3.8 delay,
58k Lobbed Singularity, 460 radius / 2.4 fuse,
+8.9% & +36% Deputy's Badge,
+28% Cooldown relic,
+7.6% Combat XP relic.

[real oracle]

instantly start snowman at the start of uvhm for a legendary hunter

shoulda grabbed a slagga from clan wars smh

[torn prism]

Snowman?

I'm also on uvhm

What's snowman

[opal ingot]

⛄

[dusty glen]

tinder snowflake

[torn prism]

??

I'm lost

[torn prism]

Could u be a little more specific

[dusty glen]

the boss

tinder snowflake

[torn prism]

From the dlc with marcus?

Like, the gifts

And stuff

[dusty glen]

I mean last time I checked his name was tinder snowflake and the boss in that areas name is tinder snowflake so what do you think?

[torn prism]

Yeah, I didn't remember fighting a tinder snowflake

But thanks for helping!!

[tacit igloo]

Need to get better at this

[tawdry shell]

he’s the boss you fight at the end of that dlc

[tawdry shell]

probably using something other then the bee would help out a little lmao

[cunning sable]

Why a harold

A fire Pimp would be faster im pretty sure

[tawdry shell]

that too yeah

[real oracle]

they're not max level

tf you mean simps

god this video racks up so many funny comments

[valid fox]

death pose of a destroyed devastator goes hard

[tawdry shell]

most intelligent borderlands fan

[real oracle]

@wide fog hey remember how i made zer0 weak as shit healthwise?

i forgot about a certain item

[cunning sable]

Does grim refill that

[real oracle]

yes

that's such a good damage number lmao

might give it like .00001 damage just to bring it up

[tacit igloo]

This is why

Trying to get to 80 before I farm the rest of the quest items

[real oracle]

wonderful

this might have been a bad idea

all on one skill

with a gun that deals melee damage

[tiny thorn]

@nocturne mist
Which shotgun is best?

And which sniper?

[nocturne mist]

depends what your preference is and what your build does

because i play krieg i would use slow hand because its an elemental shotgun

ive never used omen

long bow is fun to mess around with but dont play zero so i have no idea

blue probobly could help more than me

[tiny thorn]

I have them in fire & corrosive

[tiny thorn]

@cunning sable or @tawdry shell

[real oracle]

the trespasser and cobra both suck ass

[dusty glen]

Blue knight most likely

[cunning sable]

What

[nocturne mist]

hes the guy who actually plays zero

[cunning sable]

I play zero too, just not as frequently

[real oracle]

this is otherwise common knowledge that you prob would have figured out by just using the guns for a few minutes

[cunning sable]

Out of being blue and bolt action or having pisspoor damage

[tiny thorn]

Gotchya. Well, it might not have been that obvious to me tho.

[tawdry shell]

i have only surface knowledge on this game

[nocturne mist]

close enough

[tiny thorn]

What about these pistols?

[cunning sable]

One of those is not a pistol

[tawdry shell]

your playing zero?

[tiny thorn]

Shhh. I snuck it in.

[tiny thorn]

Yes

He gave me all the Legendary COMs & Relics

[tawdry shell]

i’d keep the maggie and the grog

grog is nice since you can transfer it to other characters and not have the worry about the tina dlc anymore

[nocturne mist]

this is definetly gibbed in fs

😭

[cunning sable]

Yeah Grogs dont drop naturally

[tiny thorn]

And these grenades?

[nocturne mist]

nah he has that one setting in bl2fix enabled

trust its not gib

[tiny thorn]

This guy is a very dedicated player

[cunning sable]

Sell it all but the Quasar
Its utility is good

[nocturne mist]

he obv has this on

trust

[real oracle]

hey mew i think u should turn the veruc into the star helix

[tawdry shell]

keep quasar

[real oracle]

give it a bandit barrel and call it a day

[nocturne mist]

wait

[tiny thorn]

And these shields?

[nocturne mist]

yk the torgue playable vh mod

[tiny thorn]

I can figure out the COMs & Relics

[tawdry shell]

turtle

[cunning sable]

Fuck you 👍

[nocturne mist]

can they make the presequel characters in bl2 as a mod??

that would be so fun

[tiny thorn]

Not the Sham??

[cunning sable]

Sham sucks

[tawdry shell]

sham sucks

[cunning sable]

Briansell connect

[tawdry shell]

[tiny thorn]

Ok, thank you guys for helping me narrow down this inventory

[nocturne mist]

gaige is pretty fun so far im enjoying it

for tvhm im doing a deathtrap build just so i dont get bored

[tiny thorn]

So Omen or Slow Hand?
And should I keep both Fire & Corrosive?

[trim hinge]

omen is busted op

slow hand is alright

[tiny thorn]

Ok, I'll keep Fire & Corrosive Omen

[cunning sable]

Slow hand isnt practicable so not worth

It also cant crit so thatsa. Bit of a detriment on zero

[trim hinge]

yeah practicable basically triples it's damage

very dumb accessory

[tiny thorn]

New & Improved Omen,
Venture Longbow,
Maggie & Grog,
Sticky Longbow Quasar
And the Armored Turtle.

Probably with Legendary Hunter & Shadow of the Seraphs?

[cunning sable]

Why Shadow
Youd probably get more with a cooldown relic/bone
I dont see much use unless your doing a LOT of Two Fang spam

And you probably dont want two fang if you plan to use Crit Acs A lot

[tiny thorn]

I have (all Legendary) Killer, Sniper, Hunter, Ninja & Chaotic Evil Rogue.

Bone of Ancients, Breath & Might of Seraphs & Deputy's Badge.

[tiny thorn]

I'm not using Crit Acs at all

[cunning sable]

Its good though
Like

Stupid good

[trim hinge]

yuh

[tiny thorn]

I'm using 1S1K with small mag Jakobs mostly

I rarely look down sights for more than a split second

[wide fog]

yeah lmao that was the first world drop i had got

[nocturne mist]

man this shot gun is pretty good for early game ngl

i am not complaining about tediador grip and bandit barrel

[tiny thorn]

@real oracle
Is it stupid to think about respeccing into melee at this point, using the Grog, Order, Legendary Ninja & Might or Breath of the Seraphs?

[nocturne mist]

fuck it do it

it would be fun

[tiny thorn]

But would it be stupid tho?
That's the question, haha

[nocturne mist]

not really

worst case you just play your old build instead

[tiny thorn]

Ok, I'm just wondering if I should bank a few of these items just in case.
Since they're "perfect" they'll probably carry me a bit further than weaker variations?

[nocturne mist]

probobly

[dire rock]

Yeah there's not many "stupid" builds, mostly it's just if you have fun using something then say screw it and keep using it. A lot of people hate Blade Witch Amara but I think it's extremely fun

[dusty glen]

You wont be using them for too long

Once you get to level like 55 they wont be of any use for the most part

[tiny thorn]

Even if they're "perfect"??

[cunning sable]

Level dropoff in this game is like
3-4 levels

[nocturne mist]

i go by 5ish

[real oracle]

more technically a gun becomes half as effective after

this many levels

[cunning sable]

So
Pretty much 5

[real oracle]

yeah

[wide fog]

yea 5 is when it doubles iirc

[trim hinge]

thank u bl2 scaling

[cunning sable]

Imagine having good scaling

[real oracle]

(bl1)

[dusty glen]

Yup

5 levels and those guns are useless

Basically all of it

The relics, class mods, everything

[trim hinge]

classmods not as much but still

[dusty glen]

Maybe like 7 levels

Do they even fall off actually

Am i just a idiot

[trim hinge]

stats usually change but there are some outliers

[dusty glen]

Oh

[trim hinge]

you can still very much use a level 50 class mod in level 80 op10 tho

[dusty glen]

True

[wide fog]

class mods scale at 25 38 and 50

and maybe like 12 or 13

[cunning sable]

Class mods are better scaling, and by 50 you practically dont need to get them again

[tiny thorn]

Well that's a good thing bc I'm feeling pretty guilty about having an this stuff

[dusty glen]

Oh

I mean there’s nothing wrong with it

The only thing was that they were kinda cheated in

[cunning sable]

They'll drop off eventually

[tiny thorn]

I just feel like I'm not playing the game authentically bc I didn't find them during my playtime.
But the bigger problem is that I'm completely geared up with stuff I didn't find myself.

[real oracle]

the thing is you'll outscale the guns anyway

so you still need to learn the game

[tiny thorn]

Yeah, I'm saying it's a good thing bc now that I have all this stuff I'm not really motivated anymore lol

[trim hinge]

13

[tiny thorn]

I wanted the true UVHM experience.
I just asked for a better Deputy's Badge then, without thinking, I took everything he dropped.

So I guess I'll just use them to get to Sanctuary

[wide fog]

ye thought so

[nocturne mist]

gaige is fun ig

i thought she wouldve been boring

[trim hinge]

youtubers do make her look boring

[cunning sable]

Shooting a box for 50 hours

[nocturne mist]

i am not shooting a box for 50 hours

[cunning sable]

Then dont use anarchy

[nocturne mist]

im just playing the game normally and anarchy stacks

[trim hinge]

yuh

stacking anarchy is very easy

[nocturne mist]

just shoot stuff

and your fine

[cunning sable]

I still hate the skill

[real oracle]

it's a stupid skill but honestly

you can get it so easily i think discord looping and micro makes it slightly more fun

[wide fog]

idk what you guys mean gaige is peak design

cmon be real

[nocturne mist]

i like her heads

[real oracle]

ok so through some advanced testing protocols and thorough examination of the games code

car damage is not explosive

[dire rock]

What about power slide damage?

[real oracle]

should be the same

[dire rock]

Dang

[torpid temple]

Damn. I had a car-only build in the works... now how am I gonna raid

[real oracle]

self explanatory

[wheat harbor]

peak

[real oracle]

i had to make an extra aid that combines the original one and multiplies by pellet count

cuz preadd also gets divided by the game

[wheat harbor]

fnuuy

[tiny thorn]

@opal ingot

Level 50 gear.
New & Improved Omen
Venture Longbow
Double Penetrating Unkempt Harold
Gunstock Maggie
Puissant Norfleet
Armored Turtle
Bone of the Ancients
Electric Chair / Sticky Longbow Quasar

I have Legendary Hunter, Sniper & Killer.

[opal ingot]

you mostly have like
strong one shot weapons

except for the maggie and omen
those are like spamming weapons

[tiny thorn]

So Sniper

[opal ingot]

yes

[tiny thorn]

I'm mostly using the shotgun though.
The Two Fang is nice.
Which is better, 10/5 out of that or 1S1K?

[opal ingot]

osok

[tiny thorn]

Or the 9 second Deception cooldown on Hunter?

[torn lodge]

need to learn how to do this on switch

[opal ingot]

just got done with recording the finale episode for my yt series loot randomizer with sal
finally

[tiny thorn]

@swift forge
I was mostly wondering if I should abandon Two Fang completely. I had Velocity but went Perception instead here and invested in Counter Strike.

So now I can utilize more of each Legendary COM.
Do you think this is better?

[EDIT]
Went KILL CONFIRMED instead of Precision.

[swift forge]

I don't know enough about zero to comment on a level 80 build of him lol

[lofty flame]

Definitely would swap out precision for kill confirmed

[tiny thorn]

I was just thinking that, thanks

[tiny thorn]

Which of these skills should I have at 4/5 or 1/5 so that I can invest something into Precision?

[lofty flame]

Or you could just not spec into precision and have the full bonus of actually useful skills

[tiny thorn]

Ok, I thought Precision was useful.

[lofty flame]

Not as much as the other skills

[tiny thorn]

What do you think of abandoning Two Shot completely?

[lofty flame]

Personal preference really

[tiny thorn]

Depends on the gun?

[lofty flame]

I dont mind the skill but it may throw your aim off and it also can mess stuff up with CA stacking

[tall surge]

since youre going melee then deciding between wheter getting tw0 fang or some other skill isnt that big of a deal

but tw0 fang is nice so sure go for it

usually for melee zer0 i keep a launcher with me in case i go down which tw0 fang helps a lot with cuz of the fire rate

[tiny thorn]

It's between Two Fang and Counter Strike.

[tall surge]

cant you take points off precisi0n

[tiny thorn]

I took Kill Confirmed instead of Precision now.

[tall surge]

cant you take points off kill confirmed

[tiny thorn]

Yeah.. isn't that really good?
Better than Two Fang?
Should I 1/5 Counter Strike & 4/5 Two Fang?

[tall surge]

kill confirmed is really meh

[tiny thorn]

And same with Precision / Kill Confirmed?

[tall surge]

specially in a melee build

[tiny thorn]

1/5 Precision & 4/5 Kill Confirmed

[tall surge]

i would just use this

[tiny thorn]

So maybe just abandon both Precision & Kill Confirmed, take both Counter Strike & Two Fang?

[tall surge]

yeah

[tiny thorn]

Nice

[tall surge]

crit damage really doesnt matter in melee builds

[tiny thorn]

Thanks

[tall surge]

cuz melee crit and gun crit are 2 different stats

and the only thing that affects melee crit damage is this one krieg skill and it lowers it

so even if you have a bunch of crit damage bonuses it wont affect melee crit damage

[tiny thorn]

I'm not going melee until OP tho..
Shotguns until 75.

Or, 80 now with these changes.

[opal ingot]

then why are you specced into orange capstone lmao

[lofty flame]

I had suggested it because of the "using more out of each classmod" part of the initial message

[tall surge]

then something like this until you decide to do melee

[tiny thorn]

That'll be at 80.
Then I'll go get melee gear for OP

[tiny thorn]

Smart move.

Thank you very much

[real oracle]

bro calls this game's orange and bl3's red

[opal ingot]

i don't call it red tree tho???
that was like
a year ago

[tall surge]

#borderlands-3 message this you???

[opal ingot]

HEY
THAT WAS TWO YEARS AGO

[real oracle]

#bl3-media message ????

everyone and their mom calls it red tree smh

tho in bl2 we go by which side it's on smh get with the time soup zone

you bl3 people dont even know your shapes

[opal ingot]

soup zone

[tall surge]

[real oracle]

i like making fun of the bl3 people and then pretending this isnt me

[tacit igloo]

I always saw it as the Alt tree

Since most of the time everyone’s orange tree is a whole different build type

While middle and left synergies

[real oracle]

zer0 left and right trees are polar opposites but they're bridged by middle

[wheat harbor]

on sal and axton red is survivability

[dire rock]

I love Krieg and Maya's red trees, big fan of elemental trees in games

[nocturne mist]

this goliath is madly in love with brick @wind token

[tiny thorn]

What do you think of this for an OP melee build?

[tall surge]

thas good enough

[tiny thorn]

I mean, what does optimized look like??

[real oracle]

bl2 optimizations are the most boring fuckin thing ive ever seen, thats already good enough

[wind token]

yoooooo

[tall surge]

id just put Like The Wind into Tw0 Fang, but it doesnt matter much

[real oracle]

like yeah, a melee relic is minmax damage but

[wind token]

75 skill points go brr

or 74? idk

[real oracle]

using a melee relic is at most a 2% damage increase smh

lovely game

[tiny thorn]

So Cooldown relic instead?

[real oracle]

yeah, ik you didnt bring up melee relics like at all but i just love talking about this

i had to make them completely multiplicative

they're so shit

[tiny thorn]

I spent all of my time in D&D optimization chats before this, I like talking about it too.

[tiny thorn]

What all might you put on this?

The Breath of the Seraphs?

[real oracle]

might of the seraphs

which has .51 postadd melee at op10

had to do the fuckin smh

to basically make it proc a skill that has postadd a % of your final melee damage modifier

this is a Funkzone™️ trick and i have no idea how many other modders do this

i like to call it psuedo multiplicative, bl3 has scalesimple which is basically just this but in one step

ig a psuedo scalesimple

kinda what nkok does on sal

[tiny thorn]

Which is garbage, right?

Wouldn't heals be better?

[real oracle]

there isnt really a way to heal besides a shitty relic, and it's outclassed by innervate

and moxxi

[austere sierra]

Gotta love the names

[heady marten]

Them asss rokets do be pretty wyld sometimes

[nocturne mist]

why bore if its melee?

[real oracle]

it's just always nice to have

you have so many points leftover

[nocturne mist]

ah ok

[heady marten]

Also helps highlight enemy crit spots so if you aim your melee right you can do extra damage

[nocturne mist]

DUDE WHAT THE FUCK

tedior grip sadly

but crazy for farming bunker red chests read only

all i wanted was a new quad

[tiny thorn]

I had just 1 single point left over, lol.
And IDK where all the criticals are..

[nocturne mist]

ah okay

[river granite]

Rate the backpack

I got more if yall wanna see 😈

[high loom]

What am I looking at uncle

[river granite]

A whole inventory of e tech relics

[high loom]

Looks scary am I on the black market?

[nocturne mist]

Um??

i went to marcus and shes not there

wtf do i do

nvm save quiting fixed it

[hasty egret]

https://youtu.be/1UGFQiqJ0UI?si=4Et2XUTw1Vecubhu

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jam-cat-jam-gif-26840814

"anahlamnahtogether's'taringmeapah" bars.

[prime holly]

Can anyone please help me kill hyperius or give me loot

[serene escarp]

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Getting started is as simple as assigning yourself a platform role in id:customize! Enjoy yourselves Vault Hunters!

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[river granite]

Foxy jumpscare ass spiderant

[rapid mantle]

fake scripted spider was paid to do that

[river granite]

How did you know he wanted a 20 to do that?

[rapid mantle]

because i was the spider

[river granite]

Oh wsg

[rapid mantle]

wsg and thx for the 20

[river granite]

Np bro

Thanks for the content

[rapid mantle]

np

[high loom]

I can't interact with it

@river granite help uncle

[river granite]

Yes nephew

Punch it

[high loom]

I did

[river granite]

Shoot it

[high loom]

I did

[river granite]

Reload your game

[high loom]

I will try unleashing the power of god (bazooka) on it

[river granite]

Lol

[high loom]

This one worked

[river granite]

I'm so smart

[nocturne mist]

ah ok

[tiny thorn]

With Legendary Sniper

[sullen girder]

Leg Killer feels like it would be better eith that setup

Especially since you aren't using either of the Sniper specific skills

(Also the T2 skill on the right is bad)

[wind token]

@real oracle

[real oracle]

uhhh

my honest reaction

[cunning sable]

Do not the Sliding Man

[tawdry shell]

just never delete your saves

i have so many random characters that are like level 5 - 20 cause i got bored and stopped playing

it’s fun watching them build up

[cunning sable]

I dont think he likes axton

[wind token]

well i deleted it because i dont genuinely think i really "played" him nor learned anything about skill tree progression nor skill tree in general

i will do axton at some point but then i wanna actually do it

[cunning sable]

You learn the Fastball

[high loom]

That's blue right there

and this is where the shield had been thrown

Idk how long it's been sitting here I randomly saw it

[wind token]

@real oracle you mean this?

[real oracle]

yeah

[wind token]

but i remember now

since i'm krieg it's actually better

i'm as close as a psychopath can be anyways

[tiny thorn]

Best shotguns out of these?

[real oracle]

you like

just shoot em and find out

[tawdry shell]

all of them are good

well sledges not having an element is rough but its still a good gun

[agile night]

I enjoy playing with conference call

[zinc gyro]

all of them, but they are all unique in their way
Butcher : basicaly infinite ammo
Sledge : good shotgun
Flakker : DCA on bigger ennemies, devastating on very big ennemies/boss, but short range
Conference call : bullet spam

[cunning pond]

sledge's looks the best so that one

[tacit igloo]

Last night I had Saturn fling my hive out of bounds

His legs were still solid and could interact with the items and kicked it out in the sky

[tawdry shell]

definitely the worst pick out of those options tbh

[wind token]

i would say sledge < flakker < other two

flakker is too situational to be considered on par imo

[cunning sable]

Its still good

But determining them would be better if we saw the gun and card

[real oracle]

@cunning sable

[nocturne mist]

rate the build chat

mobbing is actually fun now

[cunning sable]

Anarchy 🤢

[heady marten]

It's quite a unique build I'll say

[nocturne mist]

i like the dot its super fun because i can run away after shooting right up in their face with hydra and run and swap to my grog and instantly get full hp because the shock dot

[real oracle]

wait why dont you have a point in electrical burn

[nocturne mist]

i fiigured fire damage bad

[real oracle]

also, do you play vanilla or do you have a mod

[nocturne mist]

i play bl2fix thats all

[nocturne mist]

fuck

[real oracle]

you're specced into evil enchantress

this is gonna pop the fuck off

just one point btw

[nocturne mist]

holy shit

[trim hinge]

electrical burn is actually very good

[nocturne mist]

let wibble cook

[real oracle]

any more points is not realllllllly needed cuz of calculating the cahcne

[nocturne mist]

alright ill put that in as soon as i hit level 60

[real oracle]

but i was asking if you play vanilla because shock dots are the only dot that are not region specific

ie you can only have one shock dot on an enemy

the other dots can be applied to the head, arm etc

so they "stack"

[nocturne mist]

i just got bored of the cookie cutter anarchy build that goes down red and green tree so i wanted to try out blue tree bc i hadnt yet

so i cooked up this sloppy mess

[real oracle]

but you can use mods to change this

if you're interested,

[nocturne mist]

idk if bl2 fix changes it or not

[real oracle]

set GD_Shock.StatusEffect.Status_Shock bIsRegionSpecific False

i dont know if it does but you can usethis in a blcm file

if you use one

this lets shock dots be applied individually so they can stack per body part

like the rest of the dots

[nocturne mist]

i dont feel like typing exec file everytime i boot up the game 😭

holy shit this build shreds

even without electrical burn

[real oracle]

oops

wonder what broke

oh

why the fuck is it showing as damage

i fucking hate this game

WHY

WHY IS IT DAMAGE

actual terrible game

bruh

wtf is it doing

[wheat harbor]

is it possibly using a different presentation

[real oracle]

do i HAVE to use an artifact override?

because yes i am using the default list

but i think even with an artifact override it did it

[wheat harbor]

no

its just

thats prioritised for artifacts

[real oracle]

the attributes i am using do not exist for artifacts

in the artifact list, im stumped

this is so bruh

ok so making a relic override didnt fix it either

zeta i have no clue wtf im doing wrong

why is it changing by itself

[wheat harbor]

pranked?

[real oracle]

it changes with the last thing i looked at

BRUH

IT WAS JUST WORKING

zeta wtf did i do

you saw me post my skill relic working

[tiny thorn]

Which of these Shotguns & Snipers are better?

[trim hinge]

gromky is just better

shotguns are pretty interchangeable

[tiny thorn]

Is this combo good?
10/5 Two Fang & +39% Extra Shot Chance

Or Cooldown combo?
Only seems to add like 3 seconds together..

Or should I mix them?

[real oracle]

idk that's up to you

[tiny thorn]

Rn I'm running Bone of the Ancients with L. Sniper.

[glass vessel]

@torn prism

Not mine but it’s similar to this

[stiff palm]

Anyone can help me with voracidous?

[glass vessel]

Use the LFG channel

[torn prism]

Thanks!

[stiff palm]

@glass vessel is dead inside

[glass vessel]

Np! Ultimately I feel like looking at other people’s builds and then seeing what perks you prefer and altering the map they gave you will yield what gameplay you like the most

[torn prism]

Yeah. First time playing as claptrap, so I instinctively chose the middle path because of healing

[glass vessel]

Not a bag choice! See what works for you, he’s a fun character for sure

[glass vessel]

[stiff palm]

@glass vessel can help me 🫶🫶

[glass vessel]

🤔

[valid fox]

least loaded BL1 red chest

least loaded BL1 vendor

[tiny thorn]

Which of these is better?

I like the 0.0 fuse time

[opal ingot]

well obviously the left one

[real oracle]

actual

[real oracle]

oh you're on enhanced no wonder your drop rates are so high lmao

[valid fox]

oh that checks out yeah

forgot it was changed

[real oracle]

funny fact is that

it actually makes it harder to get some important rolls n shit

like max damage havocs (most powerful one is a blue) and barrel 4 as a whole

[real oracle]

ok so my vorac has whatever the fuck that is hp

573 million?

thats like nothing

my bl2 endgame has roughly bl3 endgame numbers

thats not even half of wotan's hp

[tiny thorn]

Looking at Maya.
This is what I've got so far..
Thinking of focusing on the middle tree.
Chain Reaction looks cool tho.

The right tree is just all Elemental & DOT.

[real oracle]

right tree has reaper foresight and chain reaction

but thats really about it

[tiny thorn]

Not Ruin?

What about this?
The alternative is focusing on healing.

Or swap Sweet Release for Mind's Eye.

The problem is that I want all her late tree skills and especially all the capstones

[real oracle]

much of her right tree is kinda useless

scales like shit

[tiny thorn]

The healing is better? And the melee slag?

[real oracle]

i'd recommend reading over the maya doc about each skill

because there is nothing i can say here that isnt there

[tiny thorn]

Ok.

[tiny thorn]

Where is it?
Can't find it

[real oracle]

in bl2 channel

[wind token]

ruin too

[tiny thorn]

@real oracle
This is what I have for Gaige.
I have 20 points left.

[real oracle]

im not a gaige person but i see no discord

discord matters a lot to save your stacks if you reload stay at a certain range to keep accuracy

[tiny thorn]

Oh yeah, I forgot that

I was thinking of picking up:
• Shock Storm
• Electrical Burn
• Evil Enchantress
• Wires Don't Talk

[wind token]

I don't see Krieg

[trim hinge]

shock storm is garbage

[cunning sable]

https://www.lootlemon.com/class/gaige#_530050151151_550005150200_412150151050

Heres what most people might use

Or be based and do this
https://www.lootlemon.com/class/gaige#_555155151151_551125151500_400000000000

[wind token]

Mew i see the 400000000

[cunning sable]

And

Thats my preferred gaige build

[tidal obsidian]

No Anarchy

[cunning sable]

The way i like it

[tiny thorn]

Wtf is this? Letting DT do all the fighting?

And you just heal

[cunning sable]

DoT

[tidal obsidian]

But that's the funny part of Gaige

Killing everything with one or two shots

[tiny thorn]

I thought DOT sucked in this game

[tidal obsidian]

(I know that stacking is pain)

[tidal obsidian]

At least in OP lvls

In lvl 80 DoT builds works good

[real oracle]

theres specific shenanigans with gaige

[cunning sable]

Yeah i dont do op lvs and took this build all the way to 80

[real oracle]

involving things getting your damage squared

[tiny thorn]

Should I do OP with Zer0?

[cunning sable]

I say its never worth but its your choice

[tidal obsidian]

You can do OP with every char

If you dont like it, you can return to lvl 80

[real oracle]

reminder that they fucking mispelled incendiary

[tidal obsidian]

Getting OP10 doesnt mean that you MUST play all time at OP10

[cunning sable]

Incindiary

[tiny thorn]

I might do this

[real oracle]

god why the fuck did they have to separate them all

this is gonna take forever

[leaden stag]

Getting op 10 then playing on op 8 seems like the sweet spot

op 10 is a buggy mess anyway

[real oracle]

it's not

it just sucks

[leaden stag]

Im looking at the criminal hp inflation specifically

not even the IRS went so far

[real oracle]

the hyperius and vorac thing is just from having the dlc installed

not even playing in the op levels

[leaden stag]

o

[tiny thorn]

Which tree/skills should I go for starting at 30?

[real oracle]

wonderful

it didnt show up

oh i did a bruh

nope idk what i did

it is NOT supposed to be ignite

oh i see

HEALH

[tiny thorn]

@cunning sable
This is what I just threw together,
But I want Ricochet...

Like no points to spare.

[cunning sable]

Swap Potent for Unstoppablw force
And no Buck up

[real oracle]

only one point in EB btw

at most 2

[tiny thorn]

Thanks

[trim hinge]

remove shock storm

put a point in rational anarchist and nth degree

[tiny thorn]

I thought Blue put 1 in Shock Storm for a reason

[real oracle]

why the fuck isnt it a percent

[trim hinge]

cuz filler

shock storm is a pretty bad skill

[cunning sable]

I just did a point to do it
I figured it was one of those one.point the rear is a waste skipl

[real oracle]

this is so bruh

[tiny thorn]

Ok. I'm going to mess with her tree a bit.
Be back later

[real oracle]

what the fuck why did it do it again

[cunning sable]

1

[real oracle]

huh

why is it gone

@wheat harbor bruh

[tiny thorn]

I thought it was just to trigger damage to shields every time you hit a crit.
It seems like a good idea to put 1 there honestly.

[cunning sable]

Its a critical kill or a DT kill

[tiny thorn]

Which will damage shields around that enemy

Seems useful

[cunning sable]

I dont know the damage so maybe not

[tiny thorn]

Why even put any then?

[tiny thorn]

I read potent could be used to do crafty stuff with health

[cunning sable]

Unstoppable force is better
Movement and sheild regen

Not that potent is bad but UF is better

[real oracle]

rolls odds per individual tick

you get a good enough chance with a single point

but you dont even get the effect if you only put one now, do you?

[tiny thorn]

That's what I was thinking about Shock Storm

[real oracle]

shock storm just has shit damage

your gun has more DoT

now i need to know why tf it displays as a float

[tiny thorn]

Literally nothing to spare or swap to make it work.

To get Make It Sparkle I mean.

But this will work..

[cunning sable]

Make it sparkle kinda suks anyway

[tiny thorn]

I have 2 points to spare

[cunning sable]

https://www.lootlemon.com/class/gaige#_510051151151_550002150500_415150151030

Try this maybe

[tiny thorn]

@cunning sable
If I stick with what I have,
Where should I put these other 2 points?

[cunning sable]

Discord and Rational Anarchist

Both 1 point skills

[real oracle]

motherfucker

im taking this to shadows

[tiny thorn]

Why do I keep forgetting to take Discord?

[cunning sable]

Cause your on it

[tiny thorn]

Not yet I'm not

[real oracle]

love this

multiplicative btw

might try to make the major kong or smth lmao

why the fuck cant i slag pete

[tawdry shell]

lack of skill

[real oracle]

wtf did i do

status effects dont work

fuck

i think ik why

yeah

funny

[tawdry shell]

is it possible to throw out more then 2 turrets or can you not change that

[real oracle]

probably not

[tawdry shell]

damn

[leaden stag]

no way you made launchers feel like actual launchers

banned

[trim hinge]

incredible skill

[real oracle]

i did not yet, that's just my relic lmao

it double dips af

rn i just want the reloads to not be ass

[tiny thorn]

This is what I have for Maya.
I have to spend 4 more points to get Ruin.

Blight Phoenix?

[limpid sapphire]

Immolate

Immolate op

[tidal obsidian]

Helios

Get all elements for your phaselock

[cunning sable]

Not for a full 5 points but ive heard 1 point is enough to make melee enemies stagger

[tiny thorn]

The guide said Immolate & Helios weren't good

[cunning sable]

Immolate?
That should be good i thought

[heady marten]

1 point will allow you to stagger enemies. Any extra points just boost the damage

It's a good skill, plus....it just looks pretty cool when playing co-op

Big firey acid wings

I really wish Helios had more damage than it currently does too

[real oracle]

it said that?

[tiny thorn]

Yeah, that immolate wasn't anywhere close to worth it, that it's one of her worst skills and that Helios was niche.

It also said Sub-Sequence glitched out a lot

[real oracle]

it did not say that

it only said pretty niche

but i changed it to be clearer

[cunning sable]

Yeah i thought it was a free ffyl tool

[real oracle]

no idea how you got that i said it was bad

p sure i wrote the immolate part and wanted to be v clear that, while niche, it's still a v strong skill

[tiny thorn]

Helios or Blight Phoenix?

[cunning sable]

BP

[real oracle]

oh you got helios and immolate backwards

[cunning sable]

?reading

[serene escarp]

If you’re a Borderlands player then odds are you don’t know how to read this.

[tiny thorn]

I was thinking of Flicker

[real oracle]

there we go

[heady marten]

I like throwing in 1 point in helios for the visual appeal

[real oracle]

there

[valid fox]

Isnt thoughtlock bad if your goal is to get many helios/ruin novas?

[real oracle]

enemy can move idk, i didnt write that

enemies stay near target?

wonderful

i just need to remove matching barrel cuz a torgue one does way more damage but hey

bandit barrel finally does something

[tiny thorn]

Ok, good?

[wind token]

why do i read 41

[cunning sable]

Your reading is the level of a kinderpreschool

[real oracle]

so i went and buffed the hive

[tiny thorn]

He eats boogers.

[wind token]

😔

[real oracle]

@trim hinge fire spiderants are my favorite enemy!!!

[trim hinge]

haha idot

[real oracle]

the fucking ziomas blew me up on the first 2 enemies and i died oops

bro actually took no damage

[tiny thorn]

How is this for Sal?

[real oracle]

that for deputy?

this is wasted points

[tiny thorn]

Thanks

[tiny thorn]

Money Shot

[real oracle]

money shot doesnt make the build nearly as much as how it's being used

without incon, this this is def leaning to deputy sal

fuck man i really want to give axton a speed dependant damage boost

@trim hinge should i just make an all class driver com

fuck it just give everyone VM

[tiny thorn]

Make a +6 to every skill COM

[real oracle]

no, no skill boosts

just raw VM

the only thing im worried about is it drowning out other weapon damage boosts

nvm i know how to fix it

[tiny thorn]

The idea was to increase fire rate as much as possible and avoid reloads so that I can get Money Shot to trigger more often.
Either pistols or Jakobs shotguns.

[real oracle]

just

[trim hinge]

yes!!

[real oracle]

that's deputy sal

if you increase fire rate on full auto guns without incon, you arent chaining money shot

[tiny thorn]

What's Incon?

How does this work?

[real oracle]

guess the sal doc didnt mention money shot chaining enough

typically sal builds that abuse moneyshot falls into two builds

ones that money shot chain with inconcievable rng

and then deputy sal, which abuse jakobs shotguns

[wheat harbor]

its so overrated

[trim hinge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Yl0EJ52vs

[real oracle]

its peak is above and beyond what deputy can do but i literally never find it useful except for shit like vorac and terra

[trim hinge]

funny

[wheat harbor]

moneyshot chainers when you chain non moneyshots

on average its literally no different

as theres nothing that magically makes you more likely to chain the second shot over the first

[real oracle]

i dont think it's overrated, you'll kill shit. the only problem is that it basically only really does well with like 3 guns

[wheat harbor]

youre just sacrificing consistency and now have to deal with the stupid reload bug

[wheat harbor]

i think its absolutely overrated because in the best case scenario it averages out to nothing

[real oracle]

literally all you're telling me is you're not a GAMBLER

[wheat harbor]

yes!!

[real oracle]

go to your corner

[wheat harbor]

its even worse with the harold

yet people do harold + moneyshot + incon all the time

actually insane

[real oracle]

interfacer better

conference call better too

[wheat harbor]

is interfacer 1 ammo per shot?

[real oracle]

nope

[wheat harbor]

how much per shot?

[real oracle]

basically effective 6 mag

2 shots

[tiny thorn]

That's the way I was leaning.
Is the other better?

[wheat harbor]

oh

so
1/7 to actually chain moneyshot

6/7 to chain non moneyshots

[real oracle]

consistency is king

incon MS users when vladof launcher offhand exists

when grog fist MS exists

yknow what i retract what i said it is absolutely overrated

no wonder i see literally nobody use it anymore

zeta help i keep making VM

[wheat harbor]

hey the idea of VM is cool
as long as you have a variety of options for speed boosts

problem with VM is the formula is just um
insane
and it double dips kill skill boosts

zane gets way too much from just his skill tree

[real oracle]

i think i do except literally just krieg

also im uhh

planning on making this com not be scale weapon damage

but postadd weapon damage based on weapon damage

and then making it just a really low dmg/speed ratio

i do not want to drown out scale weapon damage

[wheat harbor]

oh have you made a VM com?

who for?

[real oracle]

no not yet, and it's gonna be an all class

i fucking love the speedy, run RIGHT BY an enemy but not directly onto them

tried driver amara today it was fun as fuck

[wheat harbor]

oh yeah its super fun

[real oracle]

yeah the "nerf" of this com is gonna be no skill boost

just the effect

maybe like, variations on what bonus passive

like speed or what not

[tiny thorn]

@real oracle
Better?

[real oracle]

also uhh can u explain wha happen here

#bl3-media message

[wheat harbor]

no clue

idk bl3 enough to

[real oracle]

fair enough, i totally planned that btw

[wind token]

@nocturne mist

continuing gearless

[nocturne mist]

no

1 gear only

only roughrider

[tiny thorn]

This is what I have for Axton.

[wind token]

thats cheating

[tiny thorn]

@wind token
Only Kreig left to build now.

[wind token]

for what?

[tiny thorn]

Having a build for each character.

[real oracle]

missing maglock, maglock huge

[tiny thorn]

Is it?

Just putting the turret on a wall?

[real oracle]

other than that, no impact bothers me but it isnt super mega huge. just throw one point in it so you can boost it

the entire point of turret is to do that yes

[real oracle]

this is such a common strat

[wind token]

with longbow you can put it at ceilings so enemies have a harder time catching it

[real oracle]

yeah but they still try to shoot it and fail miserably

so you can shoot them for free

honestly building axton is so obvious

[tiny thorn]

So I need to drop 1 point in Gunpowder & 1 point in Survival somewhere.

[real oracle]

1 out of resourceful into maglock

one out of...idk, metal storm or expertise and into impact

[wind token]

😐

[nocturne mist]

krieg is easy as fuck to buld on

[wind token]

you do realize that "common" requires people to know what other people do?

which you cant if you're new

[wind token]

also i really dislike this comment when you literally had someone who made some suboptimal decisions, so OBVIOUSLY it's not all that obvious

[wind token]

actually

[nocturne mist]

wait

[wind token]

there are some nice nuances

[nocturne mist]

yes

if you read most of kriegs skills thats exactly what they do

[wind token]

also there's no single "just build this and be happy" build so i dont think it is even that easy

[nocturne mist]

very nice that its not so complecated

[real oracle]

smh

[wind token]

there's no "generalist" spec, although with lvl 80 you come pretty close

[wind token]

i found my savefile for gearless krieg so i figured i continue

assassin oney is already a wall 😠

[real oracle]

💀 bruh

what broke

[wind token]

https://medal.tv/games/borderlands-2/clips/ifXILXUS5DbHkhE3c/d1337SCp6KDT?invite=cr-MSxoTUQsMTgyNDk0OTU5LA

i broke my game too

[real oracle]

ah i forgot to change the ui

THAT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THAT HIGH

[tiny thorn]

Raging Bull isn't fitting,
You should call it the Grumpy Sloth.

[real oracle]

i was gonna call it Driver

cuz of

https://www.lootlemon.com/class-mod/spiritual-driver-bl3

[tiny thorn]

It's more of a pedestrian skill tho..

This would go really good with a Fabled Turtle or something like that.

[real oracle]

smh

idk why it says unkown

idk how ose removed the class requirement

[wind token]

https://medal.tv/games/borderlands-2/clips/ifXWuo8TiBfsS_NIP/d1337cSua6PV?invite=cr-MSxxNFEsMTgyNDk0OTU5LA

@nocturne mist look at this garbage

[nocturne mist]

i see no issue

this is normal krieg gameplay

[wind token]

dude krieg below lvl 31 isnt even a character im afraid

at least on gearless

[tiny thorn]

I try to look at the skills that do the most first,
Then I look at skills that synergize with those.

[tiny thorn]

I know he has a melee build & an explosives build. What else is there?

[nocturne mist]

no even normally he does 80% damage compared to the usual 100%

[nocturne mist]

hell born go down his red tree

it buffs elemental damage and just damage in general when set on fire

[tiny thorn]

Oh, and fire.
I know he kills himself.

[nocturne mist]

thats pull the pin and light the fuze

dont use them unless its in normal mode and for shits and giggles

so the fire doesnt really hurt him as much as youd think

[real oracle]

holy fuck

[tiny thorn]

My capacity is 30..

[wind token]

hold on

light the fuse might actually be a thing for my run

[nocturne mist]

use it

but get rid of it in tvhm

you can use it again in uvhm

but tvhm is when it does the absolute worst

how the fuck do you slag things krieg has no slag skills

[wind token]

i dont

i'll just have to run melee

release the beast and go

when doing melee i usually dont slag even with gear

[nocturne mist]

dude release the beast and light the fuze are gonna be your best friends this run

[wind token]

this run will not be my best friend

[wind token]

also why would it be worse in tvhm than in BOTH normal and uvhm

[nocturne mist]

the scaling is weird

its tested

its the does the worst in tvhm

lilgasmask999 the krieg jesus said so

[wind token]

i mean

it's still better than crouching towards backpedaling enemies

[nocturne mist]

true

but in tvhm you should be fine because youll have release the beast

[wind token]

man i'll be so happy when i reach lvl 31

god DAMMIT this SUCKS

[nocturne mist]

hear me out

farm deathrace for xp till 31?

[wind token]

lowkey considering lvl 30 start now

[nocturne mist]

no

illegal

just farm deathrace trust

[wind token]

how do i reach it

fucks sake i killed the assassins

@real oracle what the fuck are you doing on poop siren

[nocturne mist]

go to torgues

dlc

[wind token]

well i know where it is

[nocturne mist]

you have to get 3 quests deep i think

[wind token]

but i need to complete the first few story quests

[nocturne mist]

OH SHIT YOU H AVE TO KILL PETE BEFORE NEVERMIND

[wind token]

well i'll check give me a moment

HOW DO I KILL PISTON

[tiny thorn]

No Slag?
Can you keep up?
Or is it a nightmare?

[wind token]

you dont need slag with release the beast

yeah i dont think this is gonna happen

[nocturne mist]

btw on krieg to slag you mostly use grog or slagga and because of a skill in the green tree that i cant remeber that buffs swap speed youre fine when you have a lot of bloodlust stacks

@tiny thorn

[wind token]

pandemic

[nocturne mist]

isnt that corrosive

[wind token]

for bloodlust stacking, yes

corrosive dot is the longest dot

[wind token]

yeah i think this circling strat is my best friend...

[nocturne mist]

ohh

i was talking abt slagging stuff

[wind token]

i was just making an addition to your already correct statement

that you keep up the stacks with pandemic

or even get them in the first place

[nocturne mist]

ohh

[wind token]

storm front is often used too

[nocturne mist]

i like to use the rainbow storm front

whats it called

the electric chair or something

[wind token]

not longbow

and idk if it might kill you

but well you would get a low level for that anyways

look at this beauitful thing @nocturne mist

why the fuck did i farm this on level though

[austere sierra]

Wooo!!

[wind token]

level 7 and dp...

[wheat harbor]

number 1 kitten fan

smh not using a sslag kitten

[nocturne mist]

NO

WHY WHY DID YOU DO THAT

OH MY GOD I SPENT 4 HOURS FARMING FOR THAT ONCE

[wind token]

some mods made it more feasible

where you can just reroll on demand

[tiny thorn]

@wind token
This is what I've got for Kreig so far.
I just started looking at the red tree and I want basically everything from it..

[wind token]

whats the slag chance per projectile?

[nocturne mist]

whenever i play this game and get to the brick quest

something funny always bugs

[nocturne mist]

get rid of the t2 green tree skill

[austere sierra]

Only reset a few times and that's why dropped

[wind token]

im seeing you are doing a melee build, so missing out on red tree isnt too bad

[nocturne mist]

buzz axe something

[tiny thorn]

Really??
DT seems important.

[nocturne mist]

get rid of taste of blood for blood twitch

[wind token]

get buzz axe bombardier though

[wind token]

it's a melee build

so swap speed is not important

[nocturne mist]

shhh

[real oracle]

taste of blood is good though

[wind token]

at most you're throwing grenades and spamming slagga

[nocturne mist]

shhh

[wind token]

thats what i said

or at least tried to point out with my screenshot

also funko, i discovered the electric chair

its hilariously funny with blood blister

i just need a proper map to test it

southpaw is ass

[nocturne mist]

for hector i spam electric chair over a wall and hope for the best

if you do some parkour you can even hit him out of his invincibility phase

[real oracle]

cursed

[wheat harbor]

(worse than slagga)

slag kitten is just your best slag AR option

[wind token]

yeah but how much

[wheat harbor]

idk why ARs have worse dot chance than smgs

[wheat harbor]

iunno

[real oracle]

holy fuck 47% is too much lmao

[nocturne mist]

is melee lilith real