#Magic the Gathering

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zinc shard
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wonder how Commander Tax would factor into that

twilit canyon
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it'd reduce the colorless cost

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if you cast it for 2wbr

subtle sierra
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simic 1/1 that grows

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also this formatting is complete ass

twilit canyon
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hmmmm i fel like this is a reprint of a card... but maybe im thinking of another really similar card

zinc shard
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bout to blast this fool back to the stone age

subtle sierra
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🐓

hidden ermine
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Doubt it

lusty trench
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Going back to the earlier conversation, hearthstones cards are balanced around board clear being cheap and accessible with most cards giving some bonus other card on play... except this format for whatever reason they only gave like 1 class early board clear and that class is bad, so now we're in curvestone where if you miss your curve (3 card hand size going first) you are screwed

golden plover
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Why the fuck does [[Wandering Minstrel]] supercede [[Archon of Emeria]]?

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golden plover
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Mine came in later. I feel like lands should be tapped based on layers?

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Nevermind lmao

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The Wandering Minstrel just has a ruling that says he's always right even if he shouldn't be

sudden lava
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heroes in a half shell originally was gonna be eminence, but they figured there is too much good ninjas that it would end up as second ur dragon

glad peak
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Damn can’t remember what [[heroes in a half shell]] did but it’s probably exactly what I think it is

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Legendary Creature — Mutant Ninja Turtle
Vigilance, menace, trample, haste
Whenever one or more Mutants, Ninjas, and/or Turtles you control deal combat damage to a player, put a +1/+1 counter on each of those creatures and draw a card.
They're the world's most fearsome fighting team!
5/5

knotty ferry
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@subtle sierra how do you skip tutorial on a new account again?

subtle sierra
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settings -> account -> skip tutorial

knotty ferry
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sick it worked ty

sudden lava
knotty ferry
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[[rumble arena]]

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knotty ferry
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how does this work with vigilance

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am i going insane

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its not a creature but you have to tap it?

golden plover
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It only gets vigilance when it's earthbent

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Or rather animated any way, but the intent is earthbending

knotty ferry
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oh i forgot

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avatar set

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lol

sleek ferry
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knotty ferry
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true

golden plover
knotty ferry
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im playing the solar deck

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with consult the star charts

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unfortunately all my lands are shit cause i used all the rares on the other cards ICANT

sudden lava
tardy echo
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No card found for ā€œunderground tunnelsā€

tardy echo
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Sigh

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[[secret tunnel]]

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Land — Cave
This land can't be blocked.
manat: Add manac.
mana4, manat: Two target creatures you control that share a creature type can't be blocked this turn.
"I forget the next couple of lines, but then it goes...'Secret tunnel! Secret tunnel!" —Chong, nomad musician

sleek ferry
hidden ermine
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BRIAN DAVID GILBERT???????

knotty ferry
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artifacts 🤢

sleek ferry
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The comic book alts look super nice

zinc shard
golden plover
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Why is Tony blurry

subtle sierra
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new dual lands

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lmao

zinc shard
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New allied dual lands

sleek ferry
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Holy

golden plover
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The restrictions on these shits just keep getting lighter lol

golden plover
sleek ferry
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I mean, controlling a basic land is a more real restriction than controlling a swamp

subtle sierra
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so star trek is prob getting the non allied ones?

zinc shard
subtle sierra
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since fracture should get allied slow lands

hidden ermine
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I guess they didn't want to make it just heroes but

golden plover
sleek ferry
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If you’re playing Boros or in Boros colors you are most definitely worthy

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Boros is the 2nd most based color combination

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Right behind Mardu

golden plover
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But in contrast, 5c definitely isn't worthy

zinc shard
golden plover
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You're correct

hidden ermine
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Shocker

golden plover
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For a grand total of... 9 mana you can give Thor his hammer

knotty ferry
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holy, thor looks sick

subtle sierra
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pog he can be searched with rota

lusty trench
golden plover
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Oh true

zinc shard
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Living Death but for hands

twilit canyon
golden plover
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Damn that's a huge asking cost

twilit canyon
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mana value 5 disagrees with rota

subtle sierra
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shush

lusty trench
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Tony seems decent

zinc shard
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Here's Teamwork

lusty trench
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Thor is goofy af but neat

knotty ferry
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HULK SMASH!

lusty trench
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The worthy requirement on mjolnier is funny af

golden plover
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This is probably okay

lusty trench
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Sauron is my favourite worthy person

lusty trench
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Seems fine? Bit win more on the reverse side but could be a decent weenie payoff

golden plover
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Yeah true

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I don't think it's good

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Weird at mythic

golden plover
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Lmao they hit him with the really bad stick

tardy echo
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Elesh norn would no diff Thor if the stats are to be believed

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So she would definitely be worthy of the hammer

golden plover
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What the hell is that random ass restriction

lusty trench
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Unless its like really old comic thor

tardy echo
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She would make it a stat check and pass it

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gg

tardy echo
lusty trench
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Tbf she probably could get jin gitaxias to do some weird phyresis on it

golden plover
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They're so afraid of people taking infinite extra turns to win the game

lusty trench
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12 mana take an extra turn šŸ’€

golden plover
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But if you demonstrate you've got 3000 extra turns who gives an shit

tardy echo
lusty trench
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Oh that's how power up works yeah

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Hang on a moment

tardy echo
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I mean also for the record look at the long extensive list of creatures that allow you to take extra turns vro

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It’s not a very explored design space and I think they intend to keep it that way

lusty trench
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Thats one more than alrunds rate

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I guess its repeatable though

sleek ferry
tardy echo
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One more mana for a 5/6 flier instead of 2 1/1s

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It’s not repeatable

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Power ups are exhaust

lusty trench
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Ah

golden plover
lusty trench
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Yeah this is prolly fine then

sleek ferry
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I was talking about alrund’s icant

golden plover
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It's straight up one of the best extra turn spells and it was pushed as shit to sell boxes

copper pecan
lusty trench
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Depends how fast the format is

subtle sierra
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it's fast

golden plover
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Oh Alrunds was fine. It probably wouldn't be good enough nowadays

lusty trench
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Cards bad then

subtle sierra
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so generally speaking this is standard unplayable

tardy echo
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Of all the things to complain about ā€œwotc doesn’t want you to take infinite turnsā€ is a crazy one I can’t lie

subtle sierra
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but not all cards have to be

golden plover
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I mean there's plenty of ways to do it

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It's just funny how much they don't like you doing it now

golden plover
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It's worse faerie mastermind most of the time

twilit canyon
golden plover
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It does draw off yourself which is notable

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But I can't imagine it'd find too many homes

lusty trench
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I was about to say surely you play the fae from eldraine over him

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Cause the draw potential is higher there

golden plover
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Faerie Mastermind is from MOM, but yeah

lusty trench
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I mean the UB legend

golden plover
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I can't imagine a time I'd want this over faerie mastermind outside of like Sisay

lusty trench
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Or is that higher cost I cant remember

sleek ferry
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Tellion?

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He’s 4 mana

lusty trench
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Thats the one

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Ahhhh

sleek ferry
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He’s 4 pips also iirc

golden plover
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But again, this is competing with a 2 mana card with flash and flying that can enable itself as a mana outlet

tardy echo
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Talion is a really weird card and also not flash is it

twilit canyon
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being able to play the flipside in stax games is backbreaking

tardy echo
golden plover
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Is it? I can't imagine the backside is resolving realistically

zinc shard
golden plover
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I can't see it being played in place of mastermind

zinc shard
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this seems nuts

sleek ferry
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You don’t, you could justify playing it alongside though, or in the command zone

lusty trench
subtle sierra
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Did i miss some second video

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Cause i can't find these

zinc shard
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naw, previews have started

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I use MythicSpoiler to find them all

sleek ferry
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The issue is, they keep giving artifacts great enchantments (like does machines) for a deck that only has so many non artifact slots

twilit canyon
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they arent even that great enchantments

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its really only weapons manufacturing thats worth anything

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well... urza's saga but that doesnt really count

subtle sierra
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bant badgermole?

glad peak
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I read elektra’s flavor text as ā€œI am elektra nachosā€ icant

trail anvil
glad peak
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Black panther is likely a sisay support card and has a decent stax backside

trail anvil
glad peak
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Problem is that mastermind isnt used for the draw every 2 cards line as much anymore, any deck that plays mastermind for that reason already cut mastermind

lusty trench
glad peak
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Mastermind nowadays does have that mode when you’re nowhere near winning but really wants to be used to win the game after you brain freeze everyone

lusty trench
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This feels like a worse ravenous chewbacabra

trail anvil
lusty trench
glad peak
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I really misread this as ā€œI am elektra nachosā€ icant

zinc shard
trail anvil
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[[jin sakai]]

zinc shard
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I heckin love this design

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Legendary Creature — Human Samurai
Whenever Jin Sakai deals combat damage to a player, draw a card.
Whenever a creature you control attacks a player, if no other creatures are attacking that player, choose one —
• Standoff — It gains double strike until end of turn.
• Ghost — It can't be blocked this turn.
2/4

trail anvil
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shame it overlaps with the double strike mode

lusty trench
trail anvil
golden plover
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It's weird seeing who is a rare/mythic and who is just a random uncommon here

sleek ferry
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I mean, fantastic four are def uncommon worthy

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They’re B-C tier heroes

trail anvil
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reed sounds like he's gonna go nuts in limited

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2/4 with reach at uncommon that should draw a ton

glad peak
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Damn, calling the fantastic four B-C tier heroes but iron man is A tier makes me feel old nukgar

sleek ferry
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Scarlet witch is just a straight buff to Jeskai

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wtf are we doing

glad peak
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The ten rings works in opposition to the one ring clearly

trail anvil
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I wonder if playtest versions were 10 mana

golden plover
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Well the one ring is one of the greatest cards ever printed

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But if you get 10 of them, it's dogshit apparently

trail anvil
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like sure she discounts revelation but she seems identical in function to lute and tablet and both have upsides over her

golden plover
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Clearly the more rings you have the worse it is

glad peak
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Nah the ten rings is decent in Magda

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There’s enough situations where the one ring doesn’t do enough but you don’t want to get anything else since if you do then you can’t win

subtle sierra
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holy moly

trail anvil
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fat fuck tribal

subtle sierra
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isn't this just a 5/5

golden plover
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For the most part it's a 5/5 that takes 2 life to swing yeah

trail anvil
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[[depressurize]] incoming

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subtle sierra
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nooo don't make the fat guy depressed

sleek ferry
golden plover
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Gonna be funny to see a lot of Kangs on the cards (there's already 3) considering they had big MCU plans for him and then...

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I know Kang is a decently popular comics villain too but they absolutely were planning on more cross synergy

tardy echo
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Boros prowess is kind of a weird archetype to build on icl

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But glad that connive is actually a mechanic again

golden plover
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I'm glad it's not just standard boros aggro

tardy echo
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Very slightly different boros aggro icant

golden plover
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But I can't say I'm convinced prowess will feel that good in limited

past socket
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Pauline Voss did a great job with the art for Madame Hydra

golden plover
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It'll almost certainly have the bloomburrow otter problem then?

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Unless the baseline creatures are just good enough

tardy echo
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Also not sure what the golgari archetype is supposed to be

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Sacrifice and threshold? The two things it gets like every other set??

golden plover
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Golgari things it already does

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But yeah, if Bloomburrow is any indication, Boros should be your last pick

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It'll probably be better than otters because the bodies are better

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But not by much

sleek ferry
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Very good 1 mana removal for prerelease

golden plover
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Kang #4

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Yeah they were totally planning to do MCU cross synergy lmao

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Wait why the fuck does Lady Loki take your first spell to do the thing lmao

hidden ermine
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Because its like Tibalts Trickery

hidden ermine
golden plover
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I mean, Killmonger is his MCU design

hidden ermine
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The finalised set design would be like 1-1.5 years before release

golden plover
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Yeah that would've been the timeline it's too late to cut the Kang stuff

hidden ermine
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Majors being dropped was 2.5 years, the assault story being 3 years

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They would've had more than enough time to cut him

golden plover
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I thought that set design was about 2 years ahead so they would've had to change a bunch of cards and art presumably in less than 5 months

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Not impossible, but not super likely either. And while Kang is a big enough character to get some cards, it seems odd he'd have 4 already

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Also depends on when the contract was signed

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It's possible marvel signed the contract earlier and included a clause about Kang needing to get a bunch of cards

hidden ermine
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I doubt they would stipulate something that specific in an early contract

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And nah set design is usually 1.5 years ahead

tardy echo
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I think they just really like him idk

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More Kangs than dr dooms so far is very funny but I’d have to assume that changes

hidden ermine
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Almost certainly

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My guess is they use Kang becuase he's basically the time-travel villain

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And I'm guessing they're saving the Dooms for closer to release

golden plover
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Blue Sheltered by Ghosts??

hidden ermine
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This is just flavour bent version of a mind control enchantment

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To fit the whole "kidnap and replace" thing Secret Invasion was about

golden plover
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True, but it's cheaper and kinda plays a bit closer to SBG

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Gonna be busted in limited

hidden ermine
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Probably

zinc shard
hidden ermine
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Should've been Doomblade smh

copper pecan
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copper pecan
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also i'd assume this isn't doom blade because they wanted something standard legal

glad peak
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Sure but doom blade literally has his name on it nyaruhodo

zinc shard
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Print Doom Blade into Standard, I can be trusted with it

hidden ermine
twilit canyon
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[[fear]]

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hidden ermine
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I am going to do something funny

hidden ermine
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She's a 4/4

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Doom is a 3/3

sleek ferry
# hidden ermine

Why is this letting me look when daredevil can’t look smh

tardy echo
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If daredevil saw this card he’d be really mad at wotc

sleek ferry
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I’m sure he’d understand if he looked at it from their perspective

tardy echo
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Hellen Keller would be pissed if she heard u joking like that

sleek ferry
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I would just tell daredevil there’s nothing to see here

golden plover
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Weird she doesn't just use Undying

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She's literally exactly the same card as [[Strangleroot Geist]] with a different typeline

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trail anvil
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hey she loses all perpetual abilities in alchemy so she's worse

golden plover
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Lol true, niche edge case where she's actually worse

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Well I guess she's got 1 more toughness so surely that's a rare

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Oh no the spider people are back

copper pecan
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they probably just didn't want this to combo with -1/-1 counter stuff

golden plover
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I guess? Weird a rare from 2026 is just a worse version of an uncommon from 2012 and is basically the same card

subtle sierra
sleek ferry
golden plover
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Valgavoth is also worthy lol

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Keywording worthy was silly as hell

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Ozai is also worthy

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Oh and Bolas

glad peak
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toralf. the guy magic made to be a thor analogue, is better with mjolnir than thor himself is lol

golden plover
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True, even the AC Mjolnir is better

past socket
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šŸæ

sudden lava
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My chatterfang friend is aware of this card's existence. So ready for the squirrel matches

glad peak
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oh wait i just realized

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t'challa also counts yourself in the second drawn card lol

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probably not enough to bring him over the edge (uw is suffering in cedh) but it's a pretty funny trigger a bunch of people will miss

trail anvil
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legendary etherium sculptor

sleek ferry
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This is kinda crazy for an uncommon no?

sudden lava
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Discount for my artifacts is already good enough, but I can also just turn stuff into non-legendary versions of my spacecraft commander to charge them up with station

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Anyways I hope we get a Blahaj card

tardy echo
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Surely affinity has to be like really real again at some point with this much glut of cards

fallow citrus
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imagine they made it a common to play in pauper

glad peak
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This isn’t a card for affinity, it’s a card for KCI/KCI-less KCI

tardy echo
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I don’t really mean this card in specific but also surely this must do something somewhere

glad peak
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oh there's a funny option to make t'challa playable in cedh as a commander

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rhystic slop spam with... stax pieces i guess? but no rule of law type stax pieces?

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yeah it's doomed

vivid hatch
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Would be very cool if wotc finally finished the cycle

glad peak
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can of peas lands will eventually be finished

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surely

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one day

vivid hatch
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so I can played allied canopies in pioneer

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canopies are secretly the strongest dual lands in the game in the absence of fetchlands

glad peak
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I wouldn’t call it a secret but I also wouldn’t put it past them to just put it into commander decks and nowhere else

vivid hatch
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On gut

glad peak
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We also know most magic players aren’t really great at card evaluation

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But also I’m just talking about pioneer, any other format if fetches were banned? True duals still take the cake

vivid hatch
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Especially for low to the ground decks

glad peak
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In low to the ground games having a canopy land is a direct disadvantage to having true dual land, in those matchups single life totals mean a lot

knotty ferry
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Thank you little mudkip

zinc shard
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New Pridemate just dropped

tardy echo
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The best duals are actually slow lands because they have the best art

sleek ferry
knotty ferry
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The lifegain deck is for pussies so it makes sense it centers around cat cards

glad peak
knotty ferry
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wait did aNYONE Post the new lands

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from thsi set

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oh nvm

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someone did

trail anvil
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yeah they're certainly good

sleek ferry
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They’re good, but probably no more than pathway level

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And as far as I know, no legacy formats play pathways

zinc shard
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Finally I can have Dreadmaw as my commander

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Oh wait, until end of turn

subtle sierra
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He should have made you half your life and floodgated you

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šŸ“£

copper pecan
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zinc shard
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The Reach and Ward 2 makes it too good

trail anvil
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has someone posted this one yet

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the "choose up to x" card teased

sleek ferry
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Not bad tbh, I like that it gets counters AND you get to pick up to X modes

trail anvil
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I like that it destroys the token before doing the symmetrical sacrifice

glad peak
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It’s pretty good

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Early game swing or late game decent card

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I played ub mid in modern today to honor whoever it was shilling for UB mid

zinc shard
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why do I get the feeling I'm gonna be tired of the number 4 by the time preview season's over

subtle sierra
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I wish it used 3 mana for the second ability

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Or gave 5

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Also lithuanian artist pog

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Although that last name looks weird

stark skiff