Some green lantern stuff in the funniest ways
#Magic the Gathering
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golden plover
She's witherbloom, which means that's made of like moss or something
copper pecan
sometimes people are white
trail anvil
I refuse to believe it, there's no way
golden plover
Komi white women can have children too
sleek ferry
Can any of you tell me what the omenpaths version of Spider-Man India was? I’ll wait
trail anvil
ngl forgot spider-man india even got a card 😂
knotty ferry
Loool
trail anvil
idk like half the spider cards are better and half the omenpath cards are better
golden plover
This art is ridiculously good
trail anvil
I don't think either is objectively better
golden plover
It's way better than the UB version
knotty ferry
Is this new?
past socket
[[!King of the Coldblood Curse]] is my favourite
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sleek ferry
Wait this is pretty good for a dress down on a body
trail anvil
[[zora, spider fancier]] is one of my favorite changes
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golden plover
I like all the weird people who have to care about the spiders
What the fuck is his problem
copper pecan
i wonder what the in universe version of the galactus card was gonna be
golden plover
We won't get one now 🙁
copper pecan
:(
we'll have to wait for edge of eternities 2 in order to get another fleem...
he was such a scrunkly scrimblo
golden plover
Although actually this change is so late that they almost certainly have the art for Omenpaths 2 sitting around
copper pecan
maybe we can get fleem 2 as an alchemy card
golden plover
I'd at least like an art gallery for the unused art
Since all these artists worked on it
sleek ferry
What didn’t make sense about the arena art change, is that supposedly, Spider-Man was one of the few UB sets that artists were allowed to sell prints and stuff for
Which if you know how anal Disney is about their IP’s, is pretty damn shocking
copper pecan
marvel has been letting its comic artists do that for a long time so it's no surprise to me that they'd be cool with it
sleek ferry
Yeah, but the reason artists are usually not allowed to sell prints for X UB set is because that IP usually doesn’t have a relationship with so and so artist
Though I guess if the rumors are true, Disney was extremely involved with the art direction of this set
stark skiff
word
stark skiff
This is 100x better
Luis
100x better
wtf
past socket
He’s not acting his age on Twitter! Bottom text!
golden plover
I mean Shatner is just kind of a huge asshole
Not like canceled or anything
But he's kinda just a huge dick so it's surprising to see him not be a huge dick here
past socket
He’s also responsible for Tekwar the game, his crimes are numerous
golden plover
Oh right it's because he doesn't do his own tweets anymore
They took his Twitter away last year
tardy echo
Did William shatner get sponsored by Kellogg or something
golden plover
Did William shatner get sponsored by Kellogg or something
He has been for a while apparently
tardy echo
Wouldn’t know I don’t keep up with his life 
golden plover
You don't Google "william Shatner" every morning before getting out of bed? Unrealistic
past socket
The Raisin Bran is where the Shat comes from, you see
subtle sierra
You don't Google "william Shatner" every morning before getting out of bed? Unre...
there's a "shat the bed" joke somewhere there i won't make
golden plover
Hell yeah, I shat the bed every morning
glad peak
star trek would be a very different show
a better one
that boldly goes to actually interesting places
lusty trench
Star trek the original series: what if women... had rights
Star trek next generation: what if robots had rights
Star trek deep space nine: what if shapeshifters had rights
Star trek voyager: what if we made the audience want to kill a cat man
copper pecan
star trek enterprise: what if we did the mirror universe again, are people sick of that yet?
subtle sierra
Chat
Stupid idea
Uhhh what if i run silverquil charm over lightning helix
In 4cc
trail anvil
is there something you really wanna exile
you don't get the life gain if you hit a creature which sounds like a massive downside
tardy echo
They wanted to show off the archive art can u blame them
golden plover
Show it to me to kill my cat lol
I think he boarded it to kill my kiki jiki token actually?
twilit canyon
kind of a wild meta. ik ppl were gonna be ready for storm but wow
sleek ferry
I saw that and my initial thought was “what’s a standard deck doing in historic”
And then I remembered
Standard is just the GOAT format
Silly me for ever doubting it
twilit canyon
this is a much more evil version of that deck
it gets to play a really strong mana base + other real threars
also positioned extremely well vs probably one of the strongest mtg storm decks
of all time maybe?
sleek ferry
Well sure, but the core is still reliant on the fact that high noon + aven are extremely goated cards together
twilit canyon
i fuck with historic storm heavy rn
twilit canyon
Well sure, but the core is still reliant on the fact that high noon + aven are e...
honestly i'd say spell queller is the more important guy
but interrupter is key too ofc
steady onyx
[[spell queller]]
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golden plover
copper pecan
i think cheatyface is one of the all time funniest uncards tbh
golden plover
Yeah, big fan of cheatyface
It is crazy that Deadpool is legal but Super Duper Death Ray isn't lol
copper pecan
[[flame spill]] does functionally the same effect as death ray but phrased differently
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trail anvil
novice necromancer is a really cool card both flavorwise and the way it plays
tardy echo
wtf is hells cube
copper pecan
series of cubes with custom cards designed to be wacky
also it's spelled hell scube
inland folio
man white anything tempo midrange is giga lit
also damn this atraxa card is pretty broken
tardy echo
hidden ermine
I didnt know Yummy got to MTG
inland folio
sudden lava
4-0 with boros in pick2
zinc shard
omg I forgot about Cryptic Spires
tardy echo
New foundations reprint unlocked someone just played muldrotha against me @golden plover @twilit canyon
They should’ve made a foundations commander set specifically for all the weirdo legends they reprinted for that shit
twilit canyon
honestly lol
vivid hatch
atomic harness
Looks good
glad peak
Welp I just got called the fun police for pointing out that a stax piece someone’s playing hurts them much more than anyone else they would play with
Who plays thorn of amethyst in a spellslinger deck
subtle sierra
maybe they like pain
glad peak
They went on to complain about how they weren’t able to do everything they wanted
Maybe the thorn of amethyst was the issue, who knows
atomic harness
[[thorn of amethyst]]
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Artifact
Noncreature spells cost 
more to cast.
Mined from a cave in the Dark Meanders, it shines brightest when no one is looking.
atomic harness
Why did they play it
glad peak
Something about them not liking board wipes???
atomic harness
glad peak
Like bro my board wipe will only cost 1 more but your turn will cost 1 morbillion more
atomic harness
use a protection / counterspell
glad peak
Oh trust me
That’s come up
Answer is usually some variant of “I don’t wanna play cedh” or “I don’t want people to not do their thing”
atomic harness
Then why are you playing thorn of amethyst 😭
You play with the most interesting ppl, Mr mudkip
glad peak
Welcome to LA
trail anvil
why are you concerning yourself with ragebait humanized
trail anvil
different locals too?
zinc shard
Reddit
glad peak
Stories come from a variety of locations, including times where I’m out of state
trail anvil
Stories come from a variety of locations, including times where I’m out of state...
dang locals finding skill issue honestly
inland folio
Answer is usually some variant of “I don’t wanna play cedh” or “I don’t want peo...
have you ever tried playing vs humans or do they only have lizard people in LA
sleek ferry
stark skiff
There’s always at least one lizard person in every pod
Where’s the lizard person
glad peak
The person whose pov this is in. Theyre playing a 5 pod 
sleek ferry
All I saw was june
June 26th
sleek ferry
Lock in, I still haven’t seen you attend a prerelease
sudden lava
Tomorrow we get MaRo teasers for Marv
fallow citrus
well we were talking about duel commander the other day
looks like they decided on violence again
X
glad peak
Glad to see theyre not cowards
zinc shard
tardy echo
https://x.com/i/status/2058977081959059648
HOLY
Najeela/Winota are w/e but emry is a really scary unban
I guess without crypt it’s probably fine…?
But emry is always a scary card
lusty trench
Id love to believe Mark on this but UB products seem to have a way of breaking these "expectations"
And by way I mean of course; money
golden plover
Who the fuck is speccing on dragons maze boosters? They're like $100 a box now
glad peak
Emry’s scary but it’s 1v1 and it’s a lot harder to cast her now (well it’s still pretty easy)
tardy echo
Casting her is still pretty easy she just doesn’t enable as many broken things as she used to
You don’t have stuff like mopal and crypt anymore to have infinite mana on turn 2
Also scryfall implemented premodern/dc/pedh into the format list neat
lusty trench
Who the fuck is speccing on dragons maze boosters? They're like $100 a box now
People must really want their... oh wow Master of cruelties, at a coooool $5
knotty ferry
Lock in, I still haven’t seen you attend a prerelease
I'll see if I can attend this one
I just didn't really care for the cards last set
golden plover
What do you even do for the next 4 sets?
Literally cannot think of enough content to make that work
twilit canyon
you can absolutely do an x-men set
golden plover
Feels like it'd be awkward as fuck when every card has the typeline "Legendary Creature - Mutant Hero"
glad peak
It’s pretty easy to do multiple sets for marvel
Old school marvel would be one of them if we really wanted to stretch it out
knotty ferry
Ok wait
Can someone explain a ruling for me
I can't believe I never asked this before
And just accepted it to be true
When my opponent responds to some spell I use with aven interrupter, why does the spell not actually resolve? It's not being countered
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Creature — Bird Rogue
Flash
Flying
When this creature enters, exile target spell. It becomes plotted. (Its owner may cast it as a sorcery on a later turn without paying its mana cost.)
Spells your opponents cast from graveyards or from exile cost 
more to cast.
2/2
knotty ferry
Sure but it's not being countered
Am I missing something with how exile works? Isn't it just like banish in ygo?
twilit canyon
if the spell leaves the stack, it wont resolve
knotty ferry
Oh I see
trail anvil
same thing with effects that end the turn like [[time stop]] since they exile the spell
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sleek ferry
[[divide by zero]]
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burnt relic
yoooooo
copper pecan
don't get me wrong it looks very pretty but like
can you even name a single mode of kozilek's command from memory
golden plover
Counter target colored spell?
Something about making Eldrazi spawn?
Destroy some sort of permanent?
I got part of one right and there's 4 lol
copper pecan
exile mv x and exile from gy are different modes
copper pecan
ye
twilit canyon
make x spawns
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Instant
(
represents colorless mana.)
Choose one —
• Exile target creature with power or toughness 1 or less.
• Counter target sorcery spell.
• Create a 1/1 colorless Eldrazi Scion creature token. It has "Sacrifice this token: Add ."
copper pecan
counter target colored spell is [[null elemental blast]] i think
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tardy echo
Too many modal colorless counter spells
sleek ferry
Too many modal colorless counter spells
Not enough*
atomic harness
Thank you, son
atomic harness
Not enough*
the toph and zhulodok decks were very funny btw
also the one guy kept like mulled into the worst hand icl
it was like land go for 3 turns the thrasios kid
sleek ferry
the toph and zhulodok decks were very funny btw
Yeah I just finished watching the episode, Toph seems fun, just a little one note
atomic harness
🕵️
subtle sierra
karen is a bitch
golden plover
Love that it's a 3/3 for 3 that can't be blocked and sometimes turns off Lifegain if that matters
golden plover
Dude UB typeline bloat is crazy. Why is Inhuman its own typeline?
golden plover
They're like different in a way that shouldn't be super meaningful for card purposes
hidden ermine
They are
golden plover
Especially considering they're still given Mutant in their typeline
hidden ermine
I assume there will be cards that care about Inhumans specifically
golden plover
I guess so? But I don't really feel like Inhuman should've been their own typeline
hidden ermine
Theres just no other way to have that kinda synergy unique to them in MTG
sleek ferry
The all caps one is clearly HULK SMASH! Right?
past socket
Pauper Dredge is so fun
fallow citrus
ketramose draws you a morbillion cards
subtle sierra
That's not a kill
fallow citrus
academic has haste lifelink and gets counters cause you have cards leaving the yard
you hit with flying 20/20
subtle sierra
Oh i forgot that
fallow citrus
past socket
Bag of Holding this L
golden plover
https://x.com/DackFayden07/status/2059384483636199520?s=20
Hmmm this is pioneer legal too
Cant run Phelia or Emperor of Bones, but all three cards for the combo are legal
fallow citrus
Reddit
atomic harness
🕵️
tardy echo
I had to check which one was the standard symbol for a second
sleek ferry
That Wolverine is pretty interesting
tardy echo
Got very scared we were abt to have ritual in standard
sleek ferry
Got very scared we were abt to have ritual in standard <:icant:13102947003847148...
WotC Pushing the black agenda. (It would just make Dimir/grixis the best decks)
subtle sierra
wolverine is very cute ngl
like idk power wise
but it's a very cute design
i think power wise he's strong too
tardy echo
It would prob be a decent card if gruul were colors ppl played
subtle sierra
that is also true
but i think having a haste guy that removes another guy and can still go face is decent
wish it had like 4/4 and not 3/5 tho
tardy echo
Yeah I mean as an actual card this is good
3/5 is a pretty decent statline for the stuff he wants to do at least
Does the healing happen before he takes new damage
subtle sierra
yes
subtle sierra
ye
he hits smth and the dmg doesn't matter for his attack
and you can't ping him to death with multiple red removals
i think that's the decent part here
tardy echo
Hopefully marvel gives green more good fight spells to go with it
Meltstriders is a good card in gearhulk but p bad aside from that lol
subtle sierra
am i a bad person for wanting a good 2 cost counter in the set since nml is rotating in half a year
tardy echo
Yes actually you are
subtle sierra
tardy echo
Msh should have grixis cards though so there will prob be something in there
Or if not fracture will most likely have some sort of fucked up weirdo counterspell
Colorshifted mana leak or something
subtle sierra
uhh i'm not sure we're doing color breaks that set besides "what if this character was a diff color"
tardy echo
There aren’t color breaks but there are shifts
Snappy to red
Blue is not the only color with counterspells…
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Haste
When this creature enters, you may pay 
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2/2
tardy echo
That’s what I mean
Snapcaster effects aren’t out of red colors
So stingcaster or whatever his name is isn’t a color break
It’s a… shift 
subtle sierra
oh i might have read wrong again
i really need a vacation
wow is otj commander icon really just the same icon with a shield behind
tardy echo
A counterspell in BW colors wouldn’t be entirely out of the blue for example
sleek ferry
Give solar no more truths
tardy echo
Fracture has like infinite room for things it can print
I’m not trying to set my expectations too high but the stuff it’s already shown is p sick
subtle sierra
Give solar no more truths
tardy echo
In reality fracture… they say google docs me…
sleek ferry
You know what’s funny, hit monkey is unironically something that green desperately needs in standard
That card would have been nice in the main set
I’m assuming it was too overturned for the limited environment
tardy echo
Ya that feels like it would’ve been a little strong
But conversely it seems p bad in commander no?
knotty ferry
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1tp6s77/msh_and_msc_various_cards_as_...
Isn't that dark ritual card banned
tardy echo
Dark ritual is being printed in the commander set
It’s only banned in historic
It is simply not legal in standard/pioneer/modern because they don’t print it in sets that go to those formats
fallow citrus
Isn't that dark ritual card banned
depends who you ask
tardy echo
I guess it’s banned in oathbreaker too but that’s a fake format
knotty ferry
CRINGE
tardy echo
Well as a rule of thumb if a reprint looks too insane to be true it probably is
sleek ferry
The real rule of thumb is that if you look on the lower left, and the set code ends with a C, the C most likely stands for Commander
tardy echo
It can but commander power level/card design is very very different from 60 card formats
knotty ferry
Why does that matter
tardy echo
Because then you’re printing cards with will of the council in standard
tardy echo
[[expropriate]]
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fallow citrus
easier to sell direct to commander sets means more money because commander players buy them which means you print more
knotty ferry
https://scryfall.com/card/cn2/30/expropriate
No I mean just don't print a card like this
Like if you just had the "normal" set
Those cards would be legal in standard and commander
tardy echo
Well expropriate is a bad example because most people would be happy if it didn’t exist anyways
knotty ferry
Like the normal secrets of strixhaven set
Would add cards to both standard and commander
tardy echo
But there are a lot of cards that ppl actually like that involve having more than 2 players
Son commander is the most popular and more importantly lucrative format in mtg
knotty ferry
That already exists, cards say "each opponent" and "target opponent"
tardy echo
It’s more likely they stop printing non commander sets before they stop printing commander sets
tardy echo
That already exists, cards say "each opponent" and "target opponent"
This phrasing literally only exists because of commander in the first place
tardy echo
Ban commander players from procreating
I’m not a big toucher
knotty ferry
Yeah so why do we need more cards
ITS SO TROLL
LIKE WHAT THE FUCK JUST PRINT A NORMAL SET LIKE HUMANS AND LET COMMANDER PLAYERS DO WHAT THEY WANT
tardy echo
We also used to get sets that went straight to modern and skipped standard
Different formats have different power levels mean you need cards with different strengths to affect the format in a notable way
tardy echo
LIKE WHAT THE FUCK JUST PRINT A NORMAL SET LIKE HUMANS AND LET COMMANDER PLAYERS...
They used to do this and everybody hated it, led to some of the most boring and abominable standards ever
knotty ferry
How
The standard set is unchanged
If you never printed commander sets, the standard card pool would be exactly the same as it is now
tardy echo
Because designing a single set with multiple formats in mind means the cards in the set wind up very differently lol
knotty ferry
No, don't design it with multiple formats in mind
tardy echo
I hate to tell you they will never not be creating cards for commander
knotty ferry
Just design it with standard in mind, and let the other subhumans do what they want
sleek ferry
Commander’s existence as the backbone holding up MTG, changed how sets were designed
tardy echo
Just design it with standard in mind, and let the other subhumans do what they w...
This is the financial equivalent of a genesys player asking Konami to only make cards for their format
sleek ferry
If standard sets were solely designed for standard play, you would see some of the absolutely, most boring designs
tardy echo
Zendikar rising standard…
sleek ferry
Yep
knotty ferry
If standard sets were solely designed for standard play, you would see some of t...
I still don't get this, what are they designed for? Commander has a commander set
fallow citrus
We also used to get sets that went straight to modern and skipped standard
you say used to like mh3 wasn't recent
tardy echo
Was mh3 not like 3 years ago now lol
sleek ferry
FIRE design became a thing with WAR/Throne of Eldraine
And it fundamentally changed how sets were designed
knotty ferry
No what I'm asking is what formats are the current standard sets designed for
knotty ferry
sounds troll
tardy echo
I still don't get this, what are they designed for? Commander has a commander se...
They also design cards with nonrotating formats in mind now. Additionally, legendary glupshitto slop is a result of commander
knotty ferry
Why have a separate set in the first place then
If the cards in the standard set are designed for commander (as well as other formats), why have a separate commander set?
sleek ferry
The “commander” set is just a precon with like 10 new cards and the rest reprints
tardy echo
Something like abigale is a card that’s perfectly fine in standard, but they made her a legendary specifically because of commander
Also that
It’s not really its own set lol
sleek ferry
They’ve also cut down on the amount of commander precons we get with each set
tardy echo
90% of the sets are reprints
sleek ferry
At one point we were getting 4 per set
Now, it looks like we’re getting anywhere from 0-4. And the Marvel set having 4, makes sense given the nature of the IP
But Avatar had no commander precons, Spiderman had no commander precons, TMNT had 1
tardy echo
Something like abigale is a card that’s perfectly fine in standard, but they mad...
On the other side, stuff like [[ominous harvest]] is pretty unprintable in a set that would go into standard/modern but is very cool to have in commander
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tardy echo
- it allows them to print cards for commander that don’t waste slots in 60 card sets
sleek ferry
We also sometimes get some neat and easily accessible reprints for legacy formats in those precons
There was a point in time where the precons were highly anticipated to see the reprints in them as well
tardy echo
Moonshaker is a good example from recent times
Also speaking of moonshaker im sad that woe is rotating soon
That set has some of my favorite cards from the last few years of standard in it
sleek ferry
Yeah like up the beanstalk
tardy echo
U found the one person in this server who liked that card
I was a beans abuser
I also thought that basically all the dual color adventure guys were incredibly cool
Heartflame duelist is still one of the coolest cards I’ve played with in a very long time
Cauldron created some very cool decks (vivi aside), bargain was a really cool mechanic
Just a very fun set
Role tokens were really cool even if most of them weren’t real in standard
I know it’s probably very far down the list for planes to revisit but I hope we go back again sometime
I’m also gonna miss otj oko he was so cool even though i only ever played him in one deck
On the other hand I won’t miss bloomburrow fuck those rabbits word me @twilit canyon
twilit canyon
yea
sleek ferry
U found the one person in this server who liked that card
? I’ve been the biggest beanstalk supporter since before you could walk
tardy echo
? I’ve been the biggest beanstalk supporter since before you could walk
Well aside from you kid
But you’re barely even a person
tardy echo
beans was the goat but it had to go
Only had to go because everybody was a pussy
sleek ferry
What cake is saying is facts
It didn’t actually have to go until right before Lorwyn
glad peak
Hell yeah I’ll take it
So as cringe as the babified titan decks are, I do admit brewing and playing them are pretty damn fun
sudden lava
Should I be evil and bring Ms Bumbleflower to locals this thursday?
glad peak
Is bumbleflower evil?
Damn they really went out of their way for the gooners for miku’s commander ||yes this is a joke yes the joke is that she populates every turn||
lusty trench
Is bumbleflower evil? <:icant:1310294700384714813>
Grouphug innit, bad reputation
lusty trench
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1tpkaqo/sld_hatsune_miku_commander_de...
Small indie devs
sudden lava
Is bumbleflower evil? <:icant:1310294700384714813>
yes
The stuff I am allowed to do with the deck and they still dont catch on is very much evil
glad peak
I think it’s more of players being too greedy and not good enough at figuring out her threat that’s inflating her stock
sudden lava
Among the evils in my own list I have: Rapidly growing Hydra to eat you, I draw 3 extra cards minimum each turn, +4/+4 worth of counters on every creature I cast, and opponents trample each other to death
oops wait mistake on one of the cards I screenshotted
glad peak
I don’t see any threat here
sudden lava
fixed the mistake, the text scratched out in pink doesnt exist to me
zinc shard
Goddamn, Secret Lairs have gotten so bad they're selling out before they're even announced
sudden lava
I even have pocket thespian's depths, surely this bird is not grabbing William Shakespeare's theater and Maritlage, go on take your free land, give in to temptation
glad peak
I’ve yet to see any out of the ordinary or anything evil
lusty trench
Hit em with the collective voyage/tempt with discovery/minds aglow and they'll think your jesus for the rest of the game meanwhile it's just more mana and cards for the Satan engine
glad peak
the more experienced people get the less they'll go for it and make you waste mana
twilit canyon
I’ve yet to see any out of the ordinary or anything evil <:nyaruhodo:87305699197...
ppl talk about ms bumbleflower at times like they do king von
but all i see
fwiw this is how commander players speak of cards a lot of times
fallow citrus
X
glad peak
i remembered being harassed at the table for the threat when all i had was knuckles and a mana dork vs the guy to my right who just deployed his 15th mana source with a commander that drew cards
too many people ignore mana
lusty trench
Bruh you had knuckles everyone knows he's stronger than sonic physically and sonic is multiversal of course youre the threat
sudden lava
Hit em with the collective voyage/tempt with discovery/minds aglow and they'll t...
If I'm adding collective voyage, it has to be the Chandra one
and its around 6-8 dollars
[[minds aglow]]
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stark skiff
Picked these up @sleek ferry @atomic harness @knotty ferry
atomic harness
Good job
burnt relic
holy that sire of seven deaths is hot
knotty ferry
Picked these up <@304354673647812608> <@240310577925193729> <@262101290799202307...
The alt enduring arts are so good
atomic harness
Word
urban crane
Picked these up like a week ago little less shyni still Nice
atomic harness
Nice
zinc shard
stark skiff
The alt enduring arts are so good
yea i think im done with all their fractures. Idk what deck has my green one atm lol.
sudden lava
So the Iron Man one is in the equipment deck
to double up on your mana rocks and equipment
urban crane
So the Iron Man one is in the equipment deck
That’s cap probably
Like cap is commander and we know what hé does
glad peak
I don’t like these new leaks because they’re proxies and the Wolverine one was weird af
subtle sierra
a friend of mine was weirded out by "healed"
urban crane
Yeah that one
subtle sierra
?????????????
atomic harness
Izzet...
past socket
Me when I don’t know how to count
golden plover
a friend of mine was weirded out by "healed"
"Healed" is really weird and feels really fake lol
There's not rules precedent for what the term means
I know it's a real card, but the wording feels wrong
atomic harness
[[wolverine]]
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atomic harness
Can someone show me the weird "healed" card
subtle sierra
golden plover
Reminder text also isn't rules text
[[Obsidian Fireheart]] says "the land continues to burn"
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4/4
tardy echo
How else would you word it then 
It’s not exactly an effect that’s been replicated before
golden plover
Something like [[Ancient Adamantoise]]
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golden plover
Basically "remove damage from this creature before damage is dealt"
tardy echo
And what exactly is wrong with using a different word instead of “remove all damage from this creature”
golden plover
Healing isn't a thing defined in the rules
It's one of those things where it makes sense to read, but it's not how cards work
tardy echo
Healing isn’t a thing defined in the rules because this is the first time it’s ever been a word used on an mtg card. They could’ve put reminder text on the gatherer (maybe they will!) but there’s nothing wrong with keywording something because it wasn’t already defined
golden plover
Yeah true. It just reads like a custom card and is kinda silly lol
glad peak
I’m still skeptical of these leaks because they’re printed on proxies
tardy echo
Yeah true. It just reads like a custom card and is kinda silly lol
It’s a UB card with a new mechanic shrug
subtle sierra
I’m still skeptical of these leaks because they’re printed on proxies
They look good set code wise, etc
glad peak
Sure but we’ve seen enough of those for someone to feasibly fake those
subtle sierra
Fair
golden plover
Ya know, after playing her in Pioneer, they should print Thalia into standard
Her and [[Archon of Emeria]]
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glad peak
we don't need death and taxes tainting yet another format
twilit canyon
print archon of emeria into standard to make azorius flash the only viable deck sure
glad peak
actually though modern death and taxes is so outside of death and taxes that i'm surprised some people still call it death and taxes
golden plover
print archon of emeria into standard to make azorius flash the only viable deck ...
I mean, you can just spend your one spell to kill him
Thalia tho, would be great in standard rn
golden plover
Force the Izzet decks to play fair
twilit canyon
no it just forces every deck to die
the deck plays out in historic in such a way where if you are not able to answer their high noon and/or archon, its already gg
its a perfect lock unless they stumble and even/if
glad peak
nah it makes ramp a lot better too
twilit canyon
how do they resolve spells after tho
golden plover
Yeah ramp can play under archon fine
golden plover
And every color can use their one spell to kill the archon
twilit canyon
sure if they didnt already play a high noon
glad peak
in theory ramp drops bombs every turn but yeah ramp will lose gas or their life faster than it mattering
twilit canyon
you need to answer high noon + archon + get this past aang + interruptor + captain
golden plover
Morseso I want Thalia in standard, but I really want something to slow down izzet
twilit canyon
and denial magic that they play
golden plover
And watching Izzet hit a wall to Thalia + Archon in pioneer feels great
glad peak
you already have something to slow down izzet
twilit canyon
idt izzet is even a massive issue
glad peak
golden plover
I dunno, I took a break from standard since the format feels too rock paper scissors rn
Maybe it'll be good again soon
But it feels like all the matchups are decided by looking at the opponent's deck most of the time
That's honestly what the data supports rn too
Every deck has winrates that suggest you mostly know the result the second you see the matchup
golden plover
god can cavern rotate faster
It'll rotate, but I'll get printed in Marvel Superheroes as "Avengers Tower" which is the same thing but if you play a Hero you can untap it or something
zinc shard
stark skiff
I’m still skeptical of these leaks because they’re printed on proxies
Marvel has been doing these card image covers starting with images from the Spider-Man set. They’re just leaks from what the covers are
Also [[Time Stop]]
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zinc shard
I keep forgetting this is legal in standard.
golden plover
Also [[Time Stop]]
Reminder text isn't rules text tho
It's like regenerate using it in the reminder text
Also [[Ultima]] came after this and words it normally
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golden plover
Lore Question: Which Titans did Klothys bind? [[Binding of the Titans]] depicts four of them and only one seems to have a card. Looks like one is Uro
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golden plover
Oh the other one is Kroxa, but the back two don't look like a titan we've seen
tardy echo
If we ever go back to theros we’ll probably get more of them
golden plover
Another lore question: What the fuck plane is [[Archon of Cruelty]] from?
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golden plover
His mount doesn't match any plane we've seen archon on yet and there's bolas spires in the background
Apparently Archavios has Archons???
Yeah Cruelty seems to be from the meditation realm
atomic harness
golden plover
Unrelated, y'all remember when people wanted Enduring Curiosity banned lmao
trail anvil
no
subtle sierra
Unrelated, y'all remember when people wanted Enduring Curiosity banned lmao
yes
i was one of them
i hate the cat
trail anvil
this guy sees a flash draw engine for creatures and his vision goes red
atomic harness
coastal piracy is fair, little one
twilit canyon
card is the definition of snowball
and its extremely hard to permanently remove in a lot of spots
fallow citrus
X
glad peak
yep affinity's amazing in the current format
great matchups to the top decks (well most of them at least) and very easy to play ignorant and go all in
and as we all knew, boros isn't dead lol
atomic harness
It left when mopal got banned kid
fallow citrus
We might be back <@122453664466993155>
yeppers
twilit canyon
meltdown x = 1 gg
fallow citrus
meltdown x = 1 gg
I'll have a meltdown
atomic harness
Rhinos in A 👀
twilit canyon
i also saw an affinity player get savaged by force of despair end of turn
glad peak
affinity's been back for years now, you late
atomic harness
i also saw an affinity player get savaged by force of despair end of turn
Oh this one's good
glad peak
how i feel about affinity's just like how i feel about titan over the years but actually a lot easier
glad peak
you weren't on scrying before?
glad peak
you werent on all 3?
i like how titan's newest variant is shaving down on titan but still running 61 cards
there's an argument for running 2 twest now
tardy echo
Unrelated, y'all remember when people wanted Enduring Curiosity banned lmao
At the time ppl wanted it it really wasn’t an unreasonable ask
That card was the face of dimir as much if not more than Kaito
trail anvil
archangel of tunes seems like one they've been holding onto for a while
golden plover
True. Card needs a regular reprint
Seems weird to focus on +1/+1 counters when Trostani is typically token spam tho
zinc shard
Torstani makes you gain life
I get the feeling this deck will be built around a couple GW legends you can swap around
past socket
Trostani and Shalai now do support your thesis
glad peak
Damn don’t tell me this is going to be a half assed angels deck instead of a focused populate deck
lusty trench
I'm more confused it is just all miku
Hopefully there will be more miku lore or outfits than just the stock
glad peak
I’m happy they finally figured out how to draw miku without making her look like a miku cosplay
lusty trench
Or an alien
golden plover
True
At least Miku looks okay now
But the board is gonna be hard to read if they're all just Miku
twilit canyon
this is a plus to ppl
glad peak
I need copy tokens that are all miku
copper pecan
this whole thing is part of hasbro's nefarious scheme to get jesper elsing to draw miku again
glad peak
Glad to see Mr. Minibata still posting hammer decks that are absolute trashy cope
knotty ferry
something something llanowar elves badgermole cub
Thank you son
glad peak
tardy echo
Big if true
golden plover
Phlage Thor?
subtle sierra
Nope
The leaked thor was like
Vigilance double strike
Idr
If it wasn't clear it's just phlage with a thor image on it
The set code and artist is phlage's
molten scaffold
Reddit
subtle sierra
🐴
sudden lava
It's Pride Month, time to bust out my Doctor Who decks
golden plover
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/introducing-ranked-brawl
Surely this won't be a terrible idea
glad peak
Ranked brawl sounds funny
I sort of wish they’d formalize 1v1 cedh but using brawl’s ruleset
golden plover
Wait they banned the super sweaty commanders from ranked but not unranked
Surely that won't be a bad idea
tardy echo
It probably wont lol
It’s literally not a status quo change for (unranked) brawl at all
trail anvil
Surely this won't be a terrible idea
they already tried this before, it worked decently
tardy echo
Brawl was fine before it won’t suddenly become unplayable because ppl play ranked brawl instead??
trail anvil
I really do wish they'd copy the banlist though. nobody wants to play vs ajani or tamiyo
tardy echo
It’s weird but I don’t think it’s a huge deal
Esp some of the more niche things they banned
I played against rusko like twice ever lol
trail anvil
I think rusko is less terrifying than it used to be, but the big thing was a really hard to interact control game plan considering they can blink rusko and eventually they just get a free timetwister
I think in ranked brawl it's much more terrifying when you have to deal with cards like mana drain, free counter spells and the likes
tardy echo
I’m aware that rusko is really gross
trail anvil
I say free counter spells but it's really just the commander cycle
tardy echo
I just mean that a good number of the cards they banned in ranked are not super popular as is in unranked brawl
trail anvil
are you sure you're playing commanders that match into it
tardy echo
Yes 
trail anvil
¯_(ツ)_/¯
all ik is the current ranked bans were done with numbers after their previous test
tardy echo
As far as I’m aware hell queue also would still exist after this…?
trail anvil
yeah that's the only reason they haven't carried them over
I was still kinda surprised to see tajic on the list but ig people just did board wipe tribal or something
tardy echo
all ik is the current ranked bans were done with numbers after their previous te...
I’m not disagreeing with the ban. All I’m saying is that I think it’s pretty fine to leave a lot of those cards untouched in unranked brawl where A) people don’t build them good and B) hell queue still exists
Also is the ranked brawl banning newdu or actual nadu
tardy echo
I’m not disagreeing with the ban. All I’m saying is that I think it’s pretty fin...
I still would’ve liked to see ajani/tamiyo/ragavan specifically go because they’re obnoxious both in the command zone and in the 99
The other ones idgaf
trail anvil
I think vivi is worth trying again
yeah they're way too much value, especially dropped on curve
tardy echo
I actually played tamiyo in brawl for a while but I stopped bc it was legit hydrogen bomb coughing baby
I flipped her t1 a few times and it was just. Holy
trail anvil
like tamiyo brainstorm? yeah that's impossible sometimes
tardy echo
Tamiyo + 1 mana + brainstorm
trail anvil
low-key tempted to run a reanimator deck to see how many times I can cheese ardyn ulamog, but that's probably too unreliable without stickfingers
tardy echo
And then it’s like actually trivial to do so on t2
tardy echo
low-key tempted to run a reanimator deck to see how many times I can cheese ardy...
Isn’t there another commander who does something similar to stickfingers
trail anvil
is there?
honestly ardyn release made me kinda sad cause stickfingers was a fun reanimator commander before then
tardy echo
I swore
There’s rainbow bridge for poggy woggies
Which is still pretty cheese but not reanimator
trail anvil
buried alive is stickfingers lol
tardy echo
Wdym
Anyways I guess there isn’t a reanimator commander who can do the same cheese shit as stickfingers but there’s a couple diff commanders who can let u cheat him
trail anvil
Wdym
that's the only thing I can think of that's close
dumping specific creatures on cast is pretty bonkers with a discard and ramp suite
tardy echo
Oh like that yeah
But like there are still plenty of commanders who let you cheat big guys super efficiently
Ralph and Mikey…
trail anvil
raph and mikey fold to the color black
they're annoying but losing to instant speed removal is a gaping hole
etali is raph and mikey but better
tardy echo
raph and mikey fold to the color black
Stickfingers folded to a lot of stuff too tbf lol
trail anvil
yeah but they have the color black as well so you get to run discard spells
tardy echo
Imagine a U/B stickfingers…
glad peak
Nah, the 0-1 card combo requires green
Blue might have enough pieces to replace but I don’t want to lab
tardy echo
I would have to assume it does
And surely even if not the upside of getting better insulation against hate would be worth
glad peak
Maybe but since it’s 1v1 stickfingers has amazing hand attack to ensure the combo goes through
Blue is probably not necessary
tardy echo
Well I guess we’ll never find out anyways because he’s banned gg
glad peak
For good reason
trail anvil
well you can still play him in hell queue at least
knotty ferry
Kinda wanna try brawl now lol
Is there a good site to find brawl decks? I found aetherhub but anything else?
past socket
Not sure, starting with who you wanna put at the helm helps though
copper pecan
past socket
You got shown the Logo generator too
zinc shard
I was today years old when I learned you can drag cards from EDHREC/Scryfall to Moxfield to add them to your deck
glad peak
what do people think about duel commander? the guy running a couple shops near me seems to want to start some 1v1 cedh league but idk if he knows about the existence of duel commander or if he's trying to make a new format altogether
inland folio
Was playing hearthstone again recently and I do wonder how strong some of these cards would be in mtg
Why did the crop on these shift
copper pecan
monstrous mosquito would be way too powerful
morbid swarm would also probably be too good
chillfallen baron would be fine
raincaller would be pretty good i think
glad peak
Morbid swarm would for sure be too good, Baron is pretty ass, raincaller sort of exists, and mosquito is probably fine
inland folio
Raincaller is show off kinda
You trade the burst for a bigger ass tho
And it being perma
copper pecan
i think mosquito is just way too good for a one drop
glad peak
Raincaller is much worse than show off
copper pecan
swarm is ridiculously above rate for a 1 drop in mtg
i don't think they've ever printed a 1 mana make two 1/1s in mtg
glad peak
Either side of swarm is above rate at 1 mana
Actually maybe not the damage part, just depends on if it’s easier to make corpses or get a creature on board
Baron is up ass tho
inland folio
Actually maybe not the damage part, just depends on if it’s easier to make corps...
Well to translate just pretend it’s exile 2 creatures from gy
glad peak
Oh huh
That’s actually really good
For any standard set either side of it’s too good, having both together is way too good
inland folio
Interesting
copper pecan
Actually maybe not the damage part, just depends on if it’s easier to make corps...
the damage isn't that far above rate. compare [[flame slash]] or [[galvanic discharge]]
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inland folio
I’m also curious about these
copper pecan
platysaur seems very good
everburning phoenix would be great in storm, assuming it has flying and an entirely generic mana cost
hatchery helper is probably not good enough to see play in constructed
hidden ermine
Huh, surprisingly MTG did indeed never create a 1 mana that g
inland folio
hidden ermine
Gives you two 1/1s
inland folio
There’s like 20 versions of that with upside in hs
hidden ermine
There is a bunch that do on death, but you never get both at once
The thing is, I'm not even sure sorcery speed create two 1/1s would actually be too strong.
copper pecan
i have no idea how to evaluate this
but i think it would probably be very good
usually wheel effects like this cost at least 3 mana
inland folio
I mean it’s the most terminally fair but good card in hs
Every deck minus aggro runs it more or less
Or well did before it rotated
hidden ermine
Finley is odd to evaluate in MTG tbh
inland folio
I mean he’s basically a random mulligan at any point in the game
Unless you start stacking bottom with stuff like stock up
But the set he came out in had that as a gimmick
Same set gave one of the broken draw cards ever printed in a tcg
Dude what is up with the crop
It’s 0 mana look at bottom 3
copper pecan
that seems extremely good
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hidden ermine
Finley I mean
inland folio
Tbf you get a 1/3 with it but yeah
copper pecan
winds of change sets you down a card though which makes a huge difference
hidden ermine
So does Finley
You do get a 1/3
But it does also interact worse with scry effects
copper pecan
finley gives you a creature
does battlecry trigger whenever he enters or only if you paid the cost? if it's just whenever he enters then he would be insane in flicker decks
inland folio
does battlecry trigger whenever he enters or only if you paid the cost? if it's ...
When you pay the cost
copper pecan
still seems very good
hidden ermine
Anyway I'm gonna say Finley is probably not that good, winds of change saw little play and I'm not sure the upside really makes a difference
inland folio
Tbf stacking bottom makes a difference
hidden ermine
Aquatic form is probably cracked
inland folio
Byt yeah
hidden ermine
0 mana cantrip that gives you a selection is probably worth playing in every aggro deck
glad peak
0 mana reverse ponder if you have enough untapped lands to cast the card you choose? Yeah it’s pretty good
The problem is getting enough mana and the wording it would have to use which would change how good the card actually is
inland folio
2 mana
hidden ermine
To be clear winds of change also exists in hs
To be fair plot twist is 2 mana
inland folio
The problem is getting enough mana and the wording it would have to use which wo...
Tbf dredge is more specifically “look at bottom 3, put one on top”
And then aquatic has its stipulation
glad peak
Yeah, the part I’d be worried about is in magic would it look at your untapped lands (which doesn’t account for mana rocks and sol lands) or would it look at your current mana pool (which means you may have just wasted your mana by tapping everything before this)
inland folio
If I had to put the card into mtg I’d just make it count number of untapped lands I think
hidden ermine
3 1/1 for one mana
inland folio
This is burst lightning every turn
Face only
Idk how fast you can get down to 3 in hand in mtg tho
glad peak
Very easily
This sort of effect was good even with much more costs
[[cursed scroll]]
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inland folio
Like there is some GIGA goofy shit
copper pecan
This is burst lightning every turn
finally, [[one with nothing]] is good
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copper pecan
Like there is some GIGA goofy shit
all three of these would be way too good
inland folio
Like there’s a lot of cards I don’t need to ask
glad peak
Broxigar’s last stand would be a sideboard card at best unless some guy makes a deck whose whole plan is make tokens then use that as a draw engine into some combo
inland folio
That’s how people use it in hs
There’s also some default good cards that would be 1000000x more broken in mtg
Ie
2 mana cascade card
Though ig this would make the 3 mana cascade cards miss
glad peak
If something in hs gets cast not from hand do they still get battlecry? I can’t remember if it was ever possible to do that
inland folio
If something in hs gets cast not from hand do they still get battlecry? I can’t ...
No
If it was mtg translation it would just be an enters trigger tho
Instead of a cast trigger
glad peak
I don’t mean put into play, literally having the word “cast”
Nah in mtg it’s easy to template it as “enters the battlefield, if you cast it then X”
inland folio
I don’t mean put into play, literally having the word “cast”
Idk of anything like that
There’s cards that do stuff regardless of how they enter like collosi
But that’s because they’re multiple cards large
Oh wait no
There is something like that
It’s only on tokens tho
sudden lava
Marvel is gonna have a 2 headed giant prerelease
glad peak
It’s been a while
sudden lava
Gonna ask my friend who spends a lot on sets if they want to compete in this
golden plover
So I played Blim in commander tonight and realized something that I think is just universally true for commanders designed to "be mean": I think they all kinda feel like shit because WOTC hates the idea of you doing unfun things to your opponent
Like looking at other ones like Lynde (who is Grixis instead of Mardu for some godforsaken reason), anything where you're giving negative effects to the opponent just feels too bad and fair
past socket
Glory to Rakdos woo!
glad peak
[[lynde]]
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past socket
But yeah they do seem to want you to earn it
glad peak
Oh this one
past socket
[[Blim, Comedic Genius]]
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glad peak
I don’t think it’s about you having to earn it, it’s that they straight up don’t want those effects to be good because of salt
golden plover
Yeah, Blim is WAY too fair
He's in Rakdos so he can't ramp or set up protection
He has to hit the person he's giving the downside to, has to connect
And even then you're 2 for 1ing yourself at best
It's just weird how adverse to letting a player do stuff that harms other players like that WOTC is
glad peak
I sort of want to brew 1v1 commander assuming no bans from duel commander and back up to 40 life
golden plover
And don't forget the second you do any of that, you're archenemy
glad peak
Surely the best deck is just Rog si without rhystic and mystic but with hand attack, right?
golden plover
I don’t think it’s about you having to earn it, it’s that they straight up don’t...
Oh perfect example of this: WHEELS
Every wheel printed since like 2013 is a "may" so the opponent can say no if it'd do something mean to them
past socket
THANOS CAR THANOS CAR
golden plover
I think imma just soft retire Blim and build Nekusar
copper pecan
golden plover
Guys this is that card that'll make roots good trust
Standard and modern roots players are gonna be annoying again for like 2 weeks
golden plover
Nah this is really good for Sisay
I just think it's funny that roots players are gonna be insufferable again with their cope
glad peak
I hate how sisay gets support all the time
Top sisay player in my area which spreads sisay to more people, it’s probably the most played deck here
Oh I can run cursed totem in my deck 
zinc shard
twilit canyon
multiple thanos
sudden lava
Huh not 5 colors?
it still can be
glad peak
Don’t tell me theyre making like 15 variants of thanos for each color combo
sudden lava
it could be wubrg by effect
glad peak
I find it pretty funny that turtle soup is a deck in cedh now
sleek ferry
Thanos being mardu makes sense to me idk
sudden lava
But will he be able to be brought back by Alesha
glad peak
Nah this is marvel with wotc, him not being 5c or grixis is a company violation
sudden lava
Deathtouch, lifelink
Power-up— put two +1+/+1 counts on Thanos. Choose odd or even. Destroy each other creature with mana value of the chosen value. (Activate each power-up ability only once. Reduce the cost by his mana cost if he entered this turn. Zero is even)
@glad peak
surprisingly no wubrg YET
Unless the power-up cost is wubrg
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glad peak
The power up cost for sure is WBR+ some mana
Seems pretty mid
If there’s a blue card for him it’ll definitely mill half of the deck and be incredibly dogshit but still be called cedh
glad peak
oh wait duel commander got replaced by a weird canadian highlander system and seems to be abandoned
it's prime time for this shop owner to shove 1v1 cedh tournaments with the regular commander rules and banlist onto players
sudden lava
The power up cost for sure is WBR+ some mana
glad peak
Huh colorless + 5c
sudden lava
It's cuz there is 6 stones isnt it
zinc shard
this reminds me of the time Konami revealed Neo Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon by putting it on the bottom of a ferris wheel
subtle sierra
did we miss the fact that it's a 3 mana 4/4 with 2 keywords and an upside that is a board wipe
oh and the board wipe is instant speed
atomic harness
This looks good actually
twilit canyon
savage knuckleblade is also a 3 mana 4/4 with a ton of upsie
*upside
needless to say, this is a legendary too
idt thanos is all that crazy
its fine
zinc shard
so the turn he enters, his ability is just 1UG?
atomic harness
Oh yeah
zinc shard
or it may just be WUBRG