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Theyāve run like 4-5 playtests or more already and announced itās releasing this year
a very early access version yes, one that is still an alpha as they put it.
Thatās released my man. Itās marketing on their part because itās an underwhelming game
the one coming this year has the first pass on the actual economy. thats not released
They have a steam page up for it already
ok and? the store page even says the version launching this year is a very early version of the game
That says release q3 2026 https://store.steampowered.com/app/1872800/EVE_Vanguard/
Does not say early access, says release
literally says Early Access Q3 2026 right htere on the very top of the page. i cant screenshot
Where
bruh
It says q3 2026 release for me Iām on mobile idk if itās different
scroll down thats what it says on steam but if u look at what the dev put there it says early access q3 2026
theres a banner under vision that refers to Early Access in Q3 2026 with a very first pass on the little hub and the economy
it could end up DOA (its CCP) but its basically where this game was a couple years ago atm
I donāt see anything saying early access must be because mobile. the games has had playtests for 2-3 years now and early access is a marketing term these days but weāll see
Who knows. Maybe like Marathon, that game might also have its own special sauce. Let's wait and see.
i will say them doing this whole thing and not being even more explicit about the state of the game is definitely going to bite them in the ass
Yeah I think it will go the way of dust, eve players wonāt care for it so theyāll have to get new players
pointr youre just blind its right there on steam mobile
If they can get new players it has a chance but competition will be stiff
Iām prob blind then I looked and didnāt see
yea what i played was Very Rough in the post Arc Raiders world
i feel less jank out of forever winter
That reminds me that beta decay is taking its sweet time
Beta decay looks alright Iāll give it a try
Craving the vibes of that one as well.
But it seems very early in production. We probably won't see a release in the next 2-3 years.
Hytale x Marathon when?
High guard soon
Genshin impact x Marathon could be insane
im not gonna be them ppl who judge b4 they play a game so im genuinely gonna give the game a try and form an opinion even though i have very low hopes
highguard in basically a week and idk what the game is
is it OW3
im sure the gunplay and movement will be goated becuase of the apex and titanfall background. but will horseys be cringe? it looks fun without abilities..
The abilities are the only things that makes it somewhat interesting
greetings
BAHAHHAHAHHAHHA GATCHA ANIME TRASH HELL NO THANKS
ZZZ would make more sense.
I might actually buy a skin for the first time if they got Jane Doe in this š
if they do crossover all ill buy is
a negative review
It's far from the worst game to have those.
any crossover = creatively bankrupt
crossovers would be good as long as it doesnt affect gameplay
maybe just cosmetic items
not even cyberpunk 2077 sticker on my gun?
destiny 2 lightsaber

the main source of harm from crossovers is stylistical mess
Itās crazy the dynamic people have on crossovers some donāt give a hoot some would love it and others drop a game over it
genshin characters will look completely out of place in marathon
and why would they be in the game..
who tf even brought this up btw
genshin is not futuristic
idk who, but there was genshin x marathon suggestion
in that case we need a lot of hammers
ban* hammers
like a lot of hammers
how big is the cryo archive map?
it doesnt matter if it is genshin or not. how do you explain ZZZ or Cyberpunk characters with whatever background they have popping up in Marathon
they're keeping cryo's details mostly a secret so we don't know
Crossovers are dumb unless source projects are in the same universe
its a crossover.. not a storyline change shift
what about the witcher x marathon
this conversation makes me cry
Art the Clown skin for Assassin š š š
geralt could be accidentally transported into marathon like in monster hunter world
what is a crossover then?
remember the talk about the cyberpunk collab ideas
CoD has a bunch of crossovers too

no, I wasn't there for that
Burger
like imagine there was david's jacket for one of the runners
what do we get today chadders? more implants?
not storyline shifts. Yet that's what killed the game for its core fans
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the same CoD who's been using AI art and has gone so far off the story tracks that their latest game featured a man stuck inside a giant flesh monster of mass destruction
nothing wrong with AI art. Yes, the same CoD, that's the point I am making. It started spiraling down with all of those initial crossovers that turned it into a circus. Long before the newest installment
there is a lot wrong with AI art 
ai art is destroying company's and jobs btw
Hmmm, plenty of wrong with studio ghibli ripoff banners if you ask me š
everything is wrong with ai art actually
also their crossovers were never story things I'm just pointing out how stupid they've gotten with their story they clearly do not care
nope, it doesn't
a lot wrong with actually stealing someone else's art though
no
Thereās no way this a real take rinka
genuinely unreal
imagine choosing to ignore what the team of this game done and making a stance against AI art. Wonder what would've happened if this game used AI art instead
say sike rn
please go to another chat
then i would be a DOA game for sure no one gives a shit anymore
Stealing art and using ai art is both bad tho
what did you do when the stolen art situation started unraveling?
nobody cares if AI art is used, as long as it's done properly and it looks good and consistent. but most use of AI art looks bad/trash and pooorly thought out
this I agree with
one guy plagiarizing a few logos 1:1 =/= using AI art which plagiarizes everything and that's only the tip of the iceberg of why it's bad
obviously i didnt do anything because im not a part of it. Plus, bungie compensated for it and paid the artist
No, it's both bad but at least one of those things has been settled
I said they're not equal I didn't say it wasn't wrong
but you are part of "it" in relation to AI situation apparently? Or what
Did you boycott the game when it was revealed that the art was stolen?
@scenic meteor can u give me a tldr
you said stolen art which is what bungie did. bungie did not use ai for their art. please clarify where the ai situation was in that sentence
good morning marathoners
@grave smelt likes AI art so long as it doesn't use other people's art
more or less
But ai art uses....other ppl art as references for its generation no...?
yeah that's the thing
Yes it does
I am asking you specifically about the situation with the stolen art. How did you react when it happened? Did you just look away?
ur NOT that guy šāļø
It doesn't use it as a reference. It learns using it... same as everyone else
no, i didnt cry over it. its bad that they stole it but they made it up and payed the original artist
must be why more and more companies use AI. Because it destroys them
but stealing is bad
no it's because they invested too much into it so they need to shove it down people's throats cough microslop cough
they paid too much for it and now they want their money back from us
well, that's not "AI destroying them". That's them mismanaging it and using it in the worst possible way due to their own incompetence and/or ignorance, wouldn't you think?
They didnāt mismanage it, it just sucks and people donāt want it
generative ai isnt good and we shouldnt even be using it.
just use ai that helps with jobs, like radiology and game development
if you are claiming that every AI-generated image is bad, you are just plain wrong from the get go
Unreal take
unreal tournament š
I am talking about an image as an image, not as a vessel for ideological nonsense that you see behind it
the only purpose of ai art is to let corporates rakes in more money literally it doesnt have any benefits to anyone else no one need ai art lmao ppl are fine without it
So will Marathon's anti-cheat work with Linux ?
so, basically, ai is good because it can help you with your homework?
let ai do it for you, you dont need to learn anything
āIdeological nonsenseā and its people losing their jobs so that gigacorp can save money on hiring people to do much higher quality work and destroy the environment
you just made up this entirely disconnected conclusion based on absolutely nothing but your dislike towards my point
pretty much sums up what you're saying
its really not, considering I am talking about image generation, not LLMs
again. Right now I am talking about an actual image, a set of pixels.
Are you actually incapable of detaching from your political views just for one message to speak about images purely from the visual standpoint?
alright, if you have an art project, would you ask ai to make the image for you and you're done?
no, because it is my art that has to be graded
@scenic meteor hop on valhein
U donāt have valheim
L take
bet you wanna see Rambo appear in game of thrones dont you
People eat slop like its candy you all need to stop
yo these people cannot be real š
whats wrong with my answer?
alright, if you have an art project, would you ask ai to make the image for you and you're done?
no, because it is my art that has to be graded
imagine darth vader as raid boss š¤¤š¤¤
u dont know ball man
U don't either š
but i can use ai to create the image, and i can still get it graded
neeyth and scooby just casually ignoring the rest of the conversation lol
True but I have this thing called income š
this conversation is making my brain shrink im actually done speaking with this guy
That's fold Scooby
you can ask other person to draw it for you. Should we just hate people now?
what kind of argument is that.
There are dozens of different ways to cheat and they existed as long as tests did
there's a ai supportive group that you can talk too
we're done
so you are out of arguments
I donāt fold I bluff
no we just don't want to talk to someone who likes generative AI so we're leaving
cheating is bad, that's why AI, other people, post-it notes and calculators are bad too. Got it
typical politics
ideologically charged people incapable of expressing their views with logic
"politics" is when i refuse to consume slop š¢
we stopped talking you can go now
bye bye
don't even reply just pretend he doesn't exist
thats exactly my thoughts
I have pronouns in my bio
tells a lot about you
this was because of the ms. claus bit we did yesterday I know you didn't have it before then
I had them from the very moment I joined the server
its my default pronouns that appear as soon as I join any server
making fun of someone about their pronouns, real supportive aren't you
nickname was different, yes
bro, I am the one who got misgendered
and now you are making fun of me for that just because you don't like my views on an unrelated topic
Ur main profile does have he/him tho? Maybe you forgot to change it
so spiteful
no way
wow, stop making fun of us bevause of your opinions
you need to calm down
Ur server profile is she/her but ur actual profile is he/him
I am not making fun of you. You are misgendering me on purpose and try to convince me about my gender
You are offending me instead of just using pronouns that I prefer
your real prounouns was he/him and THEN you just changed to she/her
I didn't change them. I prefer she/her
but it was he/him
you keep offending me because of my gender
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this is literally our first interaction. I have been here more than one day
please stop harrasing me
I am the one who is getting harassed by discussing my pronouns
stop harrasing me
Stop ragebaiting, dude.
you're making me uncomfortable
so now you are just mocking me
i said please stop
nice community
what are you on?
Look, Claus, forget that. What is you consider to be different between LLM and other GenAI?
so about this marathon video game by Bungie
pretty peak if you ask me
Bring back big blue hands
Seems cool
They are not that different at all. What I disagreed with is that that person made it look like my view on the topic of AI art somehow concludes in justification of cheating using any kind of AI for any kind of activity
It was a completely detached statement that had no logical connection to whatever I've said
Kinda crazy how just like 5 years ago I had to write everything myself and now you just.. donāt have to
Not gonna be better than highguard but who knows
I still do
Indeed they are not. I was about to tell you that both need considerable ammounts of data and said data has been repeatedly shown to have been harvested without the consent of their holders. It's wrong.
I donāt use AI donāt plan on it but like dang
peakguardā¼ļø
I can't even tell if highguard is a meme anymore lmao
you know , i swear this chat is about marathon and not about ai
Iām gonna be there day one
And it is also wrong what happened with that artist that got their art stolen for this project. But at least that has been settled.


We like to talk about anything here until we don't
random topic go

if they add jedis and lightsabers into the game it'll be alot better
perhaps
Maybe in 8 years sure
Somebody mute this guy. 
possibly
nah thanks, sounds trash (star wars is trash btw)
guys guys hear me out.. destiny in marathon
modern star wars
no crossovers, respect the IP
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I agree that asking for consent to train AI is a step in the right direction. If artists ask for such thing, then it should be provided.
But there were no such legal basis beforehand plus I can't call training AI on someone else's data an outright theft. You can't learn thousands and thousands of artstyle, take an average out of it and be pronounced a copycat
Aw hell nah
So Linux support for marathon?
still no arachne role. im sad. im depressed. i am alone.
i feel like you can actually lol
why
in the end they never fixed the art style, just kept the plastic look as you can see on their twitter. Imagine this you make a extraction shooter but the art style is toy story š
āIts not theft because umm no legal basis so its okā
What if they add a Destiny crossover but itās just your player made character on Lotus and Void (warlocks donāt exist)
art in Marathon is dope bro, don't be allergic to color
that fishing pole is actually smart bro
Morally doe?
You cannot prove from a model what dataset it was trained on, you're right. But the act itself is wrong and shouldn't happen in the first place.
we keep catching the sensitive ones today dont we Akori? š£
its not the colour its the material bro its all glossy and plastic
well it's definitely a Friday āļøš
you can prove what it wasn't trained on actually, you ever seen that thing about how AI can't produce a full glass of wine?
Hmm maybe because everything is 3d printed hmm
what's the problem with that bro I love me some gloss
Do you actually think that people understood that it was theft when they started training their first AI models like ten years ago if not earlier?
Yes
heck if they could go into the game engine and liturally tweek some of the material settings for a more grittier solid feel it would change the entire game
Whaddup runnerzzzz
they didn't even know it was being stolen but they certainly would have called it theft
Ignorance doesnāt excuse anything
If I use someone's work without permission, it usually tends to be theft.
we're arguing about AI art again š
Don't mention AI and art in one sentence 
What do you think they did after the alpha bro
hell no bro I don't wanna see another gritty game THERE'S TOO MANY OF THEM NOW IT'S BORING
I don't think you understood my question.
I am asking "people understood that it was theft".
You can't say "Yes, they understood that, because they were ignorant (didn't understand that)"
Whatever claus idrc
Unlikely. Their other game destiny doesnāt work on Linux either because of the way they have their anti cheat setup. I imagine marathon will be the same sadly.
I mean there were several controversies in the history of computer vision of people's photographs being used without their permission in training and then getting upset about it (I remember one picture of a woman used as an academic standard). So there was certainly precedent for people not wanting their images in datasets
it worked in destiny 2
Enjoy your AI by yourself
Artificial intelligence art
NSKSNS NEEYTH
That's the Lena situation. It's not exactly that.
are you gonna call Neomuna or the Pale Heart "gritty" bro there's color and vibrance ALL OVER THE PLACE
you must ask why there are so many of them and so little lego plastic adventure looking shooter games
because CoD and similar games were hits so everyone copied them
or their general vibe anyways
if you don't really care to think it through and understand that you don't really have a solid logical chain to support your emotions, then you shouldn't really try to argue with someone, because it is just isn't productive and ends up with two people screeching at each other
and look what happened when cod moved away from that rn current cod big failure
Yes they knew training AI on everything o line was wrong, and even if they didnāt, ignorance isnāt a valid defense there you go
people like dark vibes not bright disney vibes
@kindred vigil when does that new gacha slop drop
did you know there's a subway surfers 2?
There's a lot of those be specific also why are you @ing me for this WTF š
Yes, I am not arguing that. I am talking about when it was only starting. For some time now if you train your model on someone else's photos/art/whatever you for sure know that you are stealing. I am not trying to find excuse for such people
New gacha slop ?
I think that has less to do with it being "gritty" and more to do with it using AI art and its stories featuring giant flesh monsters and no longer being a milsim which was it's original premise so fans of the IP felt betrayed
Ur the gacha guy when does the ark knights one drop
everyone knows that you're the gacha expert of the server
you can't be ignorant of something that no one before you even had a chance to think of...
22nd for all devices (I had it mixed up)
Bruh
Yo claus drop it bro youāre obviously way more invested into this AI stuff than anyone else
Android has an early release wtf this gacha bs
January 22nd
yeah I blocked claus already I don't want to continue this
cod is many things, milsim is not one of them
Just rub yo belly
I had it mixed up w something else it's a simultaneous release in Jan 22nd š„
it used to be
am I? I am not the one who went ballistic, ganged up on someone and start mocking them
AI makes up 80% of code being made rn and in game dev id even say 90%
ahhh okay I misunderstood the intent of your argument. I'd agree with that sentiment for the most part. Although as someone in a scientific field, ethical rigor is expected of researchers. So the ethical attainment of research materials like data is expected practice. In private sectors though???? yeah nobody gives a shit.
even when it did focus on military stuff it wasnāt on the level of arma or similar games
in vibe anyways
A joke is the perfect explanation for it right now
And high guard is jan 27 RAGGHHHšŖæšŖæšŖæšŖæ
omg gen AI could not generate shit without leeching from thousands of art from artists before like it literally exists on theft
Holy rare Oculus sighting š„š„š„
hi scoobs!
where did oculus even come from
hi oculus
Hi neef!
I've been busy cause lots of friends out of state are here :D
I wouldnt talk about art thieves and stealing art here pfft Bungie is not ai yet are known for
The ground presumably
Dangg the boot cmon now
sounds like illuminati talk
Sounds like the good kind of busy then
Zombie ?
zombies in chat?
absolutely. I finally got to play the dark souls board game with a full group of people!
Zombie cheeeeck 
cod is the game equivalent of the simpsons, itās gone on for so long that itās no longer good in no small part due to the corporational overlords which control the ip
Most art is stolen or reused in all industries for example Disney stealing lionking, finding memo and many more
papers please but in discord
Thereās a dark souls boardgame? That actually sounds amazing
inspiration and whitewashed plagiarism as brought to you by Sora AI are not the same thing
That's sadly true
I used to enjoy COD but ooof it's just no fun nowadays
Most games turned to shit which is heartbreaking
I'd just get rid of everyone 
It is! I got it back after the kickstarter ended and I love it a lot!
then you'd lose and die
There's also an elden ring and bloodborne one apparently!
Such is life
i think itās just turning away from wars caused CoD to lose the spine it had in the 2000s and early 2010s
I know someone that knows someone that knows someone I'll be fine I guess 
point being copyright is a made up concept that doesn't work in reality all artist learn from other peoples art same with AI
someone that knows someone that knows someone doesn't know you so no you won't
AI is neither an art form or a proper tool for artistic expression, hope that helps!
I mean hey they have fallout now
Everything should be fine
Right ? ... RIGHT ???
"Copyright is a made up concept" is an insane statement
artistic expression: look guys a banana on the wall its worth millions pfft
this Might last until 3pm
Did you play as Havel or Siegmeyer surely they are playable characters
that was my whole point about theft. It is the same argument as war crimes. People were doing various kinds of crazy to each other over the course of humanity's history. Every single war crime out there was named a war crime post factum. When people were committing for the first time some new kind of a war crime they didn't think
"hell yeah, I am going to break a law now and I don't feel about it"
It was just a new way of doing harm to their enemy. They couldn't be declared ignorant either. Because there was no way for them to know that it will become a war crime further in history.
Yes, phosphorus, dum-dum bullets and everything else is a war crime. But people who first used them had no idea that it was a war crime. Because it wasn't
Whole cities were burned and leveled with bombings. And it was ok. Now it is not. But back then it was just another military mission. Nobody did that with an intention to break the law or do something morally wrong. Because it wasn't considered immoral
they haveā¦
checks notes
Beavis & Butthead, Warhammer 40,000, Nicki Minaj
Sheeeet you might be right 
human impressions lead to ideas leading to art, AI takes ideas and reuses them, not the same
Ai learning/using stuff isnt the same as an actual person though. Theres no human input, no interpretation of material, no time put in to actually understand what makes the art it stole special. even if we agree on copyright being made up its just not moral for companies to use generative ai to remove the humanity of art inn the name of making slightly more money and a much worse product imo
ah yes, because your AI slop of a woman telling you she loves you to make up for your abysmal skills in human connection is leagues better
Everything except war related stuff
Don't forget the animals !!!
Fallout was doomed before it being put in COD idk why it's even being mentionned
weāre just having a sidechat about the Fall of Duty
real and true
there's like 2-3 convos happening
Fall of duty is a good one LOL
People have been saying COD has fallen since like MW3 OG
ts a choose ur adventure āļøš
we should merge them into one conversation and see what happens
Are we comparing war crimes to ai plagiarism Iām lost
Nuclear explosion
can we open another convo about mpreg?
š digital art is not art theres no soul in it no human can make digital art that isnt slop
arguing with the AI bro while lamenting the death of creativity and authenticity in the Call of Duty series, both are all linked via capitalism
What
Tbf doesnāt matter anymore the AIs already got everything weāve ever done in their bellies
havel and siegmeyer are playable characters, but only in one of the expansions! The base game only has the starting classes from ds3. However, I did get the character expansion last night so when it arrives in the mail I'll let you know how those gamers play!
we're all in a circle of ragebait šļø
Did y'all know that A$AP dropped another album ?!?!?!?
youāre advocating for AI art, stfu about what is and isnāt real art
people just mad cause AI exist lol they moved on from saying digital art is souless to now AI art is souless
Don't tell this guy what the alternative to capitalism tried to do to Art to a point they wanted to make it Illegal
including all of the bad art
mpreg is amazing art and inspired me to be more weird as a teen
war crimes situation is exactly the same situation where people can't understand what hindsight is same as with AI art
Circlebait ?
that doesn't sound better
Thief is a mid runner
Well guys, I think I've decided on NuCaloric XD
When do we get internet 2.0
people had no idea what they were doing yet somehow they are ignorant for not understanding an idea that appeared after they've already done it
Yesterday
Once the DataKrash happens
Claus do you have like a personal investment into AI
no, I don't
Scooby do u wanna grift
Hey, how did you get that Marathon frame? 0.0
Lets move on from this discussion, ya?
hello sir
What the heck are ninjas
mods
are we now at the point where we make dumb assumptions and other attempts to devalue someone else's point because we can't do it by using logic?
isn't there just an Admin role though
Very old discord quest that isn't available anymore
This why ur my 2nd fav mod Dante
That's the server /dev creators I think ninjas are just regular mods who volunteered
you know... I'll take top 3....
F ;-;
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clearly we have not moved on from the conversation
I mean mods can give 5 minutes mutes šŖæ
Block the guy instead of calling him names

yeah I blocked them a while ago
w corner timeout
Dante bring back big blue hands
what
meh hope for good match making times on launch and no crashing
wut
i could, i just also feel like giving dramatic speeches about my point of view
it might be a DMC ref š§
Triage needs his hands back bro
Definitely a dmc ref
possibly
nvm he said triage wthelly are u talking about
join the club
the servers def gonna explode on launch
What is a DMC refrence?
triage = nero
Fine aux u happy
oh no dont be in such copium bro
The storm that is approaching
huh?
Discord is niche platform
I think they mean game servers man
I just realized I've forgotten the bury the light lyrics š š š š š
Which will have a bigger lifespan this game or arc raiders
š oh
Both
On a side note anyone have any fan Ideas for some new Runners?
arc raiders
I play arc rn
No they must be pitted against eachother at all times
yeah servers def gonna explode hopefully in a good way and not a Networking company has blocked all traffic to servers for 8 hours due to large amount of sus traffic
the classic anti ddos system sees all the launch day traffic as a ddos attack pfft
It's gonna explode because Amazon forgot to pay the aws server bill
They need a ark that requires the whole lobbies participation
I had an idea for a new destroyer which I built entirely off the idea for a passive: "Give grenades increased splash radius and damage in exchange for building up heat"
Matriarch is my favorite arc
yes add a runner thats literally a jedi and their weapon is a lightsaber and a blaster
GUYS JUST ADD STAR WARS CAN WE MAKE THIS GAME STARWARS
noo
I really want them to make a separate identity from apex legends because it feels like they took some inspiration from that
More like soy wars holy fck
Runner is season 2 in Jonesy confirmed
I had the idea for a Hacker Runner that can activate doors and shutters for a distance and it's Prime ability lets it's temporarily turn a group of UESC over to it's side.
Marathon ... 2? Durandal?
I feel like that might be omega broken lmao
Oh, nevermind.
fortnite x smash bros x minecraft x marathon joint collab
Season 3 runner is a roblox bacon
they should add tycoons too
That such a beautiful mind will someday wither is a tragedy for all mankind.
bleh
We the real AI smushing everything together
but it's got soul 
mostly in that these ideas are so stupid they loop back around into being funny

I guess so, I was thinking it would only work on low level UESC, and if you get the gold mod that lets it go one level higher.
Are there any available play tests currently?
Hack a boss UESC and just drive him straight into nearest team
there will be an open access weekend before launch in March. Date for that unknown
How do I sing up for it?
its open access, anyone can join - no sign up needed
Sit and wait
it's open access my guy
I'm baahaaaack
hi null wassup
Whadduuuup 
Hope y'all are having a good day
I am sir
Wonderful ! 
The worms that make the shells look edible, probably taste like green apple
soprano c6
what
We'll still be here for you


Whereās our screaming medbot emoji



new emotes are cool bungie but we still dont have arachne role

question, do you lose weapons/armors that you bring into the run or just the gear you loot
You lose everything when you die
good point, Tetra is Zelda.
@distant lotus ok i just wondered because google says the opposite... you keep gear/guns but lose the stuff you pick up
Everything on your body is gone and very likely in someone else's inventory when you die.
GOOP GOOP GOOP!
whats the point to upgrade and tweak youre gear for that spesific character if you lose it
materiales as i understand is just for buying upgrades on the black market
š© game
@formal temple type in here real quick
sup
ITS REAL
I look at it as a rouge like. It's kinda the same vibe. You growth stronger with time, but if you make mistakes and die, you pay for them by loosing your stuff
How tf you have arachne role
I SEE SPY

- To be stronger so you are less likely to die and lose the gear
- To take on harder challenges
- Progress with quests etc lets you get better gear from the "black market" so you have something to fall back on
How did u get Arachne role?
but by todays standards (arc raiders) most pvp players will end up with playing just rook for the risk free part then

Thats like saying the ideal chess army is all pawns because they carry the lowest risk
I mean thatās how it goes so
A lot of people will want to move diagonally or be able to jump over other pieces
Rook is a totally different game dynamic though. Itās more than just ārisk free.ā
i dunno how the ques goes if its gonna be solos,duos,quads... bt say playing solo without a solo que for example would just be the same as dropping youre gear on the ground
they can't do contracts on Rook so they're gonna fall way behind so whatever. Plus rook has no abilities that are good in pvp I think, he just got things for pve
No daily marathon tweet? I don't think I'm gonna make it.
It works fine for pvp but additional skill is required
and pvp is all gains no risk (with rook)
No
Rook and arcs free loadout is not the same. People on regular shells have way better chances then rook. Plus main point of rook is to gather guns, and thats it. You cant do missions and wont progress through story
The risk is time sink. You could make 9 runs and fail. With varying degrees of durations. One run could net a lot of nice stuff though.
/mida @lilac matrix
no? you loot the weapons in the run, and if you die you dont loose youre upgraded shit... and if you kill you get their upgraded shlt, how is that a risk for the rook player?
Again, itās time.
The risk is Rooks dont have "upgraded shit" so it is extremely hard for them to take on a normal runner team with "ugraded shit" and win
muahahahahaha
Yeah you really have to have skill to pull it off
Its not like arc, for rook to kill a guy with good shields and kit is harder by miles
yea you use alot of time upgrading your character to risk it dying to som cheater or bigger squad or 3rd party/campers
The risk is fun, yeah
Rook is also 1v3 right?
Only in squad lobbys
i dunno how the ques are gonna be?
That's the point, you go in with hard earned stuff, and you don't play it like cod. You are way more careful, and you have to think ahead. That's where you get the adrenalin from this type of games
Think of it this way, getting the gear is not going to take near as much effort as Destiny because they expect you to lose it constantly and everyones inventories reset every 3 months anyways
HOW DO YOU HAVE THAT ROLE
Muhahaha
I've been abducted
PLS GIB ARACHNE
I kidnapped him
Part of the fun is having to fight to keep your cool stuff and having to find new cool stuff and change up your playstyle when you die, instead of just grinding for a "meta build" and turning your brain off until the next update.
TAKE ME NOW
š
Prove yourself
KIDNAP ME
First rule of arachne, we don't talk about it
Free loot bags š
I LOVE KILLING I LOVE PVP I WANT EVERYTHING DEAD
well i would be more happy to spend time actually not beeing to afraid to use my upgrade gear if i didnt lose every thing on death
Then maybe it's just not that type of a game for you, it's absolutely fine
not saying you can upgrade to be a god, but atleast have some goal to get a spesefic set or build... like in division for example with dark zone
i have a lot of friends who like arc but have so much gear-anxiety that they dont play anymore lol
Iām new to this game being on my radar. But as an Arc player and a longtime Destiny/Halo fan Iām interested in this game very much now
like put it this way, you do 9 runs to get the materials for the upgrade you want on the black market just to get gate camped the next run
My friend is literally sitting on a pile of golden guns, and never uses them
While running with an anvil and a shotgun
exactly
how do we get the arachne role?
Pray
I have 0 gear anxiety anymore in Arc, Iāve freed myself
š please arachne god let me join you š
I prayed first and suddenly everyone but me has arachne role

too much talk about arache and not enough talk about no tweet
True
idgaf about that, give me the role š
š
Maybe you are not the chosen one
Arache smells bad
who gaf about tweets?
GIVE ME ARACHNE OR GIVE ME DEATH!!
We will be putting a bounty on you
I pave the way, yet don't reap the rewards
#stayhumble
How did u get red role
Special
Its so beautiful...
You have to suffer, to let every one else see a peaceful sunrise
ill be back when they have the better roles out.
I wanna try this game
oh you dont know?
Nah im confused
Bungie let me in
tbf lowk I've been gagging for arachne role for months now but now that I'm seeing it on people's profiles, ionwanit
Idk whats going on with the roles
type shit
That's the mentality you need if you want to make it far in extract shooters
HOW DID YOU GE TTHE ARANCHE ROLES
Neeyth, they're nepo babies. We won't get them.
They gatekeeping
This game needs to hurry up
I kind of see it as an opportunity for change/different playstyles
Hassan in chat?
like imagine my profile with cute linkle pfp and then suddenly there's jsut Ţ̷Ķ̦̪ĶeĢøĶ̦̩Ķt̩̰̓̔ĶÅĢ·ĶĢĢ»Ķả̷̰̪̲̼ in bright red text next to it
not the aesthetic I fear
better to be sepuku gucci ya kjnow
So what you are saying is that you want a Goth/alt Linkle?

time for a rebrand š
you know what would be really funny if you guys gave me the arachne role but only me and not any of the other beggers
yo Arachne mfs since Iām cool like that can I get the role

Give me that role
What is going on with the role, why are ppl begging?
everyone I've seen with arachne was in december playtest is this the pattern we're seeking??
I'm on my knees in a walmart rn seething for arachne role.
cuz they don't know how to get it
grass is always greener on the other side ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
Oh noā¦.


KILL ALL ROOKS !!!



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Hi
hows it goin pedguin
Oh god Arachne has now infiltrated this secured cyberacme commline
wut..?
lore alert
Nah, not true
uh huh
wait when did the arachne role get added lmao
chat they keep spamming charter but I hardly know her :D:D:D:D:D:D:D::DD::D:D:D:D:D:D
hehehe
after the infiltration of course š¤
do I have to restart discord for it to show up or something
bro learns about scrolling up
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how do I change faction?
Always feels good to take a dump and feel your inner volume reducing
praise be the charter
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Someone pass the cult contract Iām ready to devote
i fear my thumbs are too big so i misspell a lot š
yeah I know the id:customize but Arachne isn't there for me do I gotta restart discord
it's not there for me either I dont know what you do fr
I still want the team cat role but I doubt I can have that whilst still staying in the nucaloric role
secret secret secret
Join Arachne how?
nucaloric chat is cat chat though

Yes and I love the cat spamm in that channel
arachne are leaking into sekgen chat too it's so over
it's ok you can tell me

Wait Arachne being able to infiltrate the other Comms channel would be the ultimate loreplay
Having them literally I filtrate and take over the server as basically interlopers
and then the server gets deleted on the game release day
I just realized Arachne is for server boosters lmao

DINALLYY
wait you're not server boosting how did YOU get it š

never mind I misread something lmao
Hi! Sorry to bother you guys, but I wanted to ask if thereās any information yet on when pre-orders will open for the game. I work in a videogame store and we still donāt know anything about it. I imagine itāll be soon since the game releases in March, but I just wanted to check if someone knows anything
Thanks š
Game release is March, no preorder info yet
Should be soon i think.. thanks
damn Neeyth you defected from Traxus just like that huh?
yes I've been wanting Arachne forever
Damn I love the fact that Arachne can just infiltrate secure Comms that's great
so uh...
Spill blood
SOCIAL COMMS TAB IS NEW
U want it?
still no arachne tho
š
I'm willing to die for it.
Still wish I had team cat but I don't even know if that role is still given out
ok but like where
gooood MORNING MARATHON!!!
who do i have to beg

I lowk dont think they'll start preorders until the open preview but the source is my own ass so

i couldnt even get my
role
YAY
Thats how
Dang
I don't even know what I did tbh
Wait didn't they recently give people worm roles?
You dont need to know hehe
How?
@iron blaze you have been appointed
wish I could tell you
by the council?
was well worth
it's a disease!!
Wait pedg is now also arachne
this chat just gonna be filled with red names since arachne just a cool kids club fr
dont join!
invite only from other arachne members or whatever
SHhh, you cant tell em

see?
I have appointed thee
someone just indoctrinated me gg
rip
dont indoctrinate me u scum
Plz gang on von i need to join
Sad thing is it overrides your actual chosen role so youāre stuck as it?
All hail charter we are arachne!
watching scoob turn red š„
Can always leave and rejoin server xD
Nope, I'm still at nucal
Damn now we need uesc to arrive and try to regain controll over this chaos
I volunteer
Traitor 
How? I'm not arachne
sorry i can give no more
Interesting thing Bungie dropped this Friday
Fair point, but you will succumb, in time
š
Yesterday's shell losses rounded out to a solid 'n' sturdy thirty! Ten outta Outpost - thanks to the unabated drone assaults! One captain down, so I guess you are all sca-rewed. 'Cause the UESC will not let that go. Got another blackout in Cryo Archive. Compilers are at it again, pokin' holes in the power grid! While over in Perimeter, Sekiguchi's scrapin' assassin victims off the plastic. And in Dire Marsh... Well... Dire Marsh is still Dire Marsh.
This has been your girl blitz. Join me in another day in our Planet of DREEEAMS!
i must leave the discord to become runnerless again
Makes me feel we will get more news before the end of this month
Nah I'd win
WAIT WOOO ARACHNE ROLE FUCK YEAAAAH
Red makes you tuff š
We will stat check you, red gives you buffs you know
Stat buffs are a crutch
if there are no cyberpunk fans in the chat this seems weird
š¤·āāļø
no we all HATE cyberpunk
I join uesc

troll newcomers asking how to get the role by telling them itās for alpha males only and shit
If someone wants to give me the role ill slime somebody
Good idea !!!
who will you slime?
You pick
U ain't sliming no one it seems
saved
Everyone in the server gonna be red atpšāļø

I think that is the goal
Spread it like a virus
No amount of bootlicking will halt it from stepping on your neck.
We are one
Hey united earth space council how do I apply for a job?
who wants to be Red next
it's okay red my favorite colour
Iām with you Iād rather be uesc and troll runners
Rook mains lol
how is everyone getting arachne š
Heck yes we are uesc and controll rooks to enforce the will of the uesc
We can spread it to ppl
It would actually be full on peak if they out of joke actually make uesc a role now
That makes it sound like herpes
Ive been cured of the infection
Damn you actually really left and rejoin
jan 16 #newgen
I'd do it again to
i will kill all rooks i see
Do it again then
Damn scoob has been reinfected
This chat is ALL arachne how many people were waiting for that?
How does one get the arachne role?
U can invite people against their will
You pick it in the roles section
leaked
cannot believe you people would betray your factions
oh no you don't what
am I not supposed to say that
Itās not there š
Death is waiting
We build a new branch of uesc
We make the
esc
people were gatekeeping it I guess
where do you get the arachne role?
May you invite me pls
They made it so you can only get it by being invited by someone who has the role or something
I HAVE INDOCTRINATED YOU
ONE OF US
Thank you brothers and sisters
what????
Death to all (shells)
ARACHNIE is LIVE
Eat the path.
thanks Barrett, Crab's crying
Yeah you have to be invited by someone in the role which won't be hard since it's getting passed like candy
Just don't start a Slaughter on TRAXUS property lol
...who had it first?
good question
I think itās interesting / fun they dropped it this way, makes me wonder if weāre hearing more news very soon since theyāre starting to be more active with the community again
Spread it like the plague
A couple of pvp players
Can any1 slide the Arachne role?
from the chat there was an init batch of 200 arachne roles
interesting
paypal £10 I'll do it
Looks cool
hell nah
I wonder if the way itās rolling out implies anything about arachne lore in the game. Or if this is just for fun
It's most likely for fun /theming
Probably for fun
It's a death cult so naturally you get invited by people in cult š§ ...
HOW IDD YOU GET THIS
can you slide it š
I'm inviting no one #gatekeep #girlboss
PLEASE SOMEONE GIVE ME IT
I'm saving my invite for one peculiar mustard )if he want it)
I will have no biding with death cults lol
you dont want it technically its an infection
Red role is for alpha males only rumor is you will also get it for buying the $100 preorder
why bother asking, just indoctrinate him
just give it him now??
well it's certainly put a damper on my profile theming
i did kelp š
it is our way brother
no role having ahh smh
I will enforce the idea of the united earth space council
"May this great technological ark carry with it the sum total of all human wisdom, and may neither time nor distance weaken our common ties,"
We will stand together and further humanity towards it's golden future
Im in a cult but I like consent š
/arachne @inland hatch has been pledged to the thermodynamics of violence.
then he'll be all like "woaaahhh I'm arachne??"
I work to build up humanity, not find "fun" in de-populating a potential work force
/arachne
OH SHIT LETS GOOO
The emblem for it is really cool
I just like the red theme
THANK YOU WHOEVER DID THAT!!!!!!!!
Can you be a W mans and slide it over š¤
wait it's gone
no it not
you CAN be un-arachne'd?
howd you remove it legitly?
how did you do it
Blitz had it for a second then it went away
I think it's because u said it ruined ur theme
I didn't! It just went away, somone else must've removed it for me. But how?

yeah...but who heard me, and how'd they do that?
bless your soul, may your life be filled with good fortunes!
šØsecret admins

Uesc will ensure the safety of this classified communication channel


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Now they have to add the UESC role to save the locked in Arachne roles
maybe someone gave it to you but was out of invites so you got the role and then it got removed soon after #bug
Cherry say the most diabolical thing you can think up about @scenic meteor and I'll give you arachne
Towards the future as a United humankind
yall have fun with ya blood, im happy with my bombs
Why does everyone say /playtest in #new-noise ?
they're broken
Diabolical?
Marathon is WOKE GARBAGE, dei, concord 3 idk

about Scoob!!!
hoping and coping
to summon one with the power of hopes and dreams
thats not about me you lose ur arachne priv
ohhhhh
š š
Scoob isnt a real fella š
wait... say that again...
Guys I just saw the runner blog , U need to remove the invisibility š¤ pls

YESSSS
@scenic meteor ur not real...
THANK YOUUUUUU
im runnerless i cant be real
idk i was in vc with em š¤·āāļø
did scooby leave the server AGAIN so he wouldn't be Arachne š
I'm gonna save my last inv for reinfecting scoob like 6 hours from now
BLESSED BE THY KNIVES
Itās not bad you hear it being activated from a mile away and you can see the silhouette when heās moving invisible. You can counter it by just standing with your back to the wall and wait 15 seconds for invis to end
WHO WANTS ARACHNE
Me
Damn, no love
scooby you will be arachne and you will like it
What does arachne even do?

i want arachne
kill people
šŖ
i like stabbing
omg Parry Hotter in marton general it's truly an event

PvP death cult
Arachne want me more than my ex did š„
if you mix all the faction colours what's the final colour
United everyone stands comune
The united earth space council will ensure order for the sake of humanity
stuff
tim is still -7 day š„
I think he left the server again actually
I think we need to indoctrinate everyone into Arachne
Nah he still here
not pointr
everyone but pointr
True cult
Initiate operation clown fiesta.
everyone who joins arachne gets free cookies.
Can I get in on this cult as well?
Iām genuinely surprised people are getting muted and stuff but not me
are you ready for class today? you too, @kindred vigil , I'll need all eyes present. only some hours from now, be ready!
I've already used up my indoctrinations apologies
uhhhh can I get 1 hr prep time
When preorders coming
Test
you have like just under 8 hours prep time if I start when I started last night so read up!
They need to start an AI worship faction in marathon Iāll be a high priest of it
I think I gotta report sick for class today Neeyth can take notes for me
all good!
I mean I'm out here babling on about uesc like im Part of a cult lol
My fatass would be NuCaloric but Sekiguchi Genetics looks cooler and probably has better drip
tetra can help out āļøš
this why you not getting arachne fr

that's a lotta red peeps
blood for the blood god
Not this crap again. Comments like this from people who haven't played get under my skin.
Blood
damn it
Sekuguchi seems to be the closest to it
Blood. Moar.
theory: Arachne is that. Durandal needs an outlet to test his theories about digitization in relation to Escape. Arachne has inexplicably incredible funding.
Thatās interesting. I need to read more about them then
arachne = private equity
they want to kill immortal people over and over again, why else but to test the durability of the constructs?
@wooden roost
sacred thermodynamics, by god, durandal's whole motivation is escaping thermodynamics as a concept
@scenic meteor hey how are you?
it's perfect
Which faction is all wholesome and all about immortality
ScoobyDooMysteri
none of them sorry
Pretty good I am making food
I'm going to take a nap. Try not to complain about A specific runner being able to go invisible for a short amount of time and still be seen with an outline and a glimmer.
Donāt care if the corporation is evil, if it has drip, im joining in.
DAY 0 OF THANKING DEVS FOR AN ARACHNE ROLE
At the end of the day, NuCaloric has hamburgers
are you working today??
Can I have some kool aid
Iām already home
HOW DO I GET THE ROLE
invite
Blood
Channels and roles at the top
Nobody invite slop denier he hates marathon n shouldnāt get the role
stonks meme in 2026 š„
Wait the channels and roles are apparently locked rn
is this ego
STONKS only go up, doesnāt matter date or time
Nah someone above was saying they should remove voids invis
ouh the invis isn't that bad in game
the rest of the economy collapsing: š§
wait this dont make sense he still standing
You can literally counter his invis by just backing up into a wall and waiting for 15 seconds when you hear the sound effect of it being activated
arachne is up? edgy players moving to their home
u can also use ur eyes š
ill give a hotdog to whoever invites me to arachne
I donāt know anything about the game, it just looks cool
Secound person to make that statement both not involved in the playtest so they didn't even actually experience it
I will be using invis cause im scared
hotdog first, I aint getting swindled
Bean you became a cop wtf
Yes
its a nucaloric 6 man hot dog
EW ACAB
i've never felt this way before. 
This will probably be the 2nd most used class by loot goblins
Damn that's how you think of me
W pfp swap š„š„š„
-7D mute
v... vega...???
w aesthetic

me after chugging 2L coke
I just want to prevent people from being yeeted out of this realm of being you know
this morning I woke up to some inSANE vega glaze
thank you tho queen <3
Wait this isnāt the arc raiders discord
NuCaloric will have you do mukbang videos
I know a perfect pfp to reuse...
i can feel my blood pumping, my blood is solidifying from sugar
I know exactly the one
I still stand in the banner of Uesc
I support u bean
Yay
If I was Arachne tho I would force you into being a death cult
scoob you've lost all ur cool points
Close enough
FR how the f do i get roles
joins arachne, misses 4 headshots, joins back cyac
reuse?? how far low have you gone..ā¤ļø

But I don't want to kill people
twin I told you
you gotta be invited
I could find a new one but the older one is p good
others indoctinated more others
and so on so forth
only one because she absolutely rinsed scoob
Still hecking cool of them to actually do an Arachne takeover event in the discord
scoob is a coward
Yall should sell invites on eBay tbh as more people stream into here over the next month