🗣marathon-general-chat

[lusty lake]

this company steals art, and sucks at doing livestreams

fuck this company

[buoyant linden]

no way you just unironically said this

[smoky owl]

Great until that happens and the assets are completely scrubbed the bashing of Bungie can continue

[ancient shoal]

They will really do anything but pay them tbh

[rigid quartz]

they have said they will do all of that. The game comes out in september, they will keep the art and give her credit I am sure.

[supple hound]

you clearly dont want to get anywhere, all goods

[sturdy gate]

Who is the frog?

[smoky owl]

You’re just saying words my guy

[patent dust]

community

[smoky owl]

Bungie says a lot of things

[ancient shoal]

Who knows. She could finally get some employment after throwing so much good work at the air

[supple hound]

said a whole lot more than you

[tepid nova]

It's better they employ the artist tbh, the art direction was really great and I hope it stayed with that artstyle

[dark shell]

How a Bungie artist feels when you tell them to do their job

[sturdy gate]

Community is already dead.

[modest finch]

Frogs are dead before dissection

[weary fog]

That this repeated behavior is unacceptable, apologizing obviously isn't enough at this point. You're just letting them get away with it again and again.

[untold fern]

only thing sad is they do not seem to care for solo q/players

[buoyant linden]

this

[lusty lake]

LOL FOR REAL

[smoky owl]

You’re upset that people are criticizing a corporation for theft my guy

[ancient fern]

My gamers, for solo Don't Starve in hamlet who do I go in as? :> if anyone is familiar

[rigid quartz]

MANY OF YOU ARE MAD OVER SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN HANDLED... TOUCH SOME GRASS!

[lusty lake]

this keeps happening lmfao

[silver wadi]

True

[supple hound]

thats not at all what i said, dont twist my words weirdo wagebaiter

[buoyant linden]

stop focusing on the community and actually pay the artist it's not a long process lmao

[sweet pier]

Okay us saying we aren’t gonna buy the game isn’t gonna stop them from releasing it lol, I genuinely don’t give a shit abt this entire situation

[ancient shoal]

Just pick the coolest looking guy. I have never played don't starve

[patent dust]

ppl were spamming marathon lore , fighting over 3D burger, MIDA, NuCaloric

i wont say dead, things could do really well but alas

[sweet pier]

As do most people here

[weary fog]

If you think this has been 'handled' then you're just accepting that they can do it again and again and all they need to do is say they're sorry.

[supple hound]

idk, what are you? thats what im curious about? why you arguing with 90% of the chat?

[sweet pier]

Like yes we get it but we also could not care less term

[lusty lake]

guys ACCURATE MARATHON LORE #📚marathon-lore-discussion MARATHON DEVS ARE ART STEALERS

[weary fog]

If you don't care why are you responding.

[rigid quartz]

it's not 3 now it's 4... AND YOU DONT KNOW THE ARTISTS... you're a bot

[silver wadi]

Well what are you proposing to do lmao going to developers houses?

[weary fog]

Try something that might have an impact on their future decisions.

[rigid quartz]

Touch some grass!

[dark shell]

Bungie explaining why they can't make original artwork

[buoyant linden]

joseph will pay when he gets billains big boot up his rectal cavity

[sweet pier]

Cause ppl like you want to gauge a response and try to reason with us when we are still gonna play the game lmao

[weary fog]

I've touched too much grass, and now I care about other people.

[untold fern]

exactly we brought light to it and now the company to handle the situation and we wait and see results and then we can comment on it

people still talking about this is not healthy

[supple hound]

so nothing to say?? i win win win later bo

[sweet pier]

Deadlock is ass

[ancient fern]

Hell yeah B] I am an arsonist

[silver wadi]

Genuently feel like what you are proposing is harrasment by this point

[lusty lake]

THIS GAME IS ASS LOL, THEY GOT PEOPLE STEALING ART

[silver wadi]

I love deadlock but these are 2 completly different games lmao

[tepid nova]

But first Pete gotta step down before he use the money to buy another car

[untold fern]

deadlock is a whole diff genre

[sweet pier]

Only ppl who play deadslop, aka dead on arrival lock is valve glazers

[weary fog]

At this point it's repeated behavior, they aren't going to change. If you want to help Bungie survive you would have to help influence that externally instead.

[dark shell]

Bungie artist being forced to clock in

[lusty lake]

lol marathon is a steam game, it's on steam, fuck outta here hahahahah

[sweet pier]

So chronic gamblers and traders. 2 of the worst people on earth

[lusty lake]

or are you playing marathon on epic games store?

[sweet pier]

Yeah and it doesn’t have access to a community market

[rough ocean]

This game wont even release

[sweet pier]

So these fat losers can sell their ugly skins

[ancient shoal]

Deadlock is competing with Marvel Rivals and Overwatch if anything.
The real Marathon opposition is Arc Raiders

[weary fog]

Maybe just something better than accepting the apology.

[toxic knot]

"Oops, got caught; better hire them"

Better than the last few times.

[rigid quartz]

you don't! you're a bot following internet trend.

[untold fern]

yeah there wont be a community market

[sweet pier]

Like the average TF, CS and DOTS player

[ember lichen]

They need to go the id route and make a REAL spiritual successor to Marathon.

[red dune]

What's this about a community market?

[untold fern]

selling skins weapons etc

[weary fog]

How about not accepting the apology. It's quite literally in the sentence.

[rigid quartz]

go mention that on the DESTINY 2 discord and stop being a bot following internet trend

[toxic knot]

Nothing, go back to your mafia money laundering hole in CS2

[silver wadi]

So like harrasing developers?

[red dune]

But to be fair looking at the original games then compared to the one that's coming this year as an extraction shooter? In a market saturated with them. I don't know chief I

[sweet pier]

3 games valve abandoned cause valve knows their players will buy crates

[ancient shoal]

The cat was suffering at the moment of its wake

[red dune]

A spiritual succession is never a bad idea

[weary fog]

Yes, something better than accepting the apology and moving on would be to not accept it.

[toxic knot]

Damn, NuCaloric cat's little weiner just got exploded

[sweet pier]

Thats what deadlock fans will do once they add crates in

[rough ocean]

Why are you so angry?

[red dune]

If they live that long

[silver wadi]

Bro this chat is cringe im out of here

[dark shell]

Bungie artist getting a raise after stealing more art

[untold fern]

i feel like the problem with extraction games is getting the game loop right

[sweet pier]

My issue is specifically when a game is unplayable lile CS rn and the only content is crates, if you want me to play a game and spend money I expect it to work

[sweet pier]

And not be full of cheaters and DDoSers

[untold fern]

thats just how he looks....

[sweet pier]

Cheaters, hackers, lobby crashers, bot hosters

[silver wadi]

What games do you even like

[red dune]

How do you make a loop that's interesting enough to let players come back for more? You drop in, search for items and weapons to loot, fight off players doing the same thing, and try to leave intact. I do understand it's hard to make it interesting, even as various games in the genre tries to make it different

[rigid quartz]

because internet has turned people into bots. they just follow trends.... they don't have anything better to do with their free time. I am here because I like this game. they're here because... they were told to.

[sweet pier]

I hate video games

[supple hound]

the most bare bones FPS ever and thats why people love it

[buoyant linden]

i'm just waiting until billain sticks his whole foot up this guys behind and calls it techwear

[sweet pier]

I don’t play games to have fun I play them to be angry

And miserable all the time

[rough ocean]

I think many are just disappointed in Bungie and what they have become

[silver wadi]

I guess i should have expected this is the type of people who shit on every game that is announced. Cringe

[ancient shoal]

Average ranked player

[indigo spruce]

Bungie what are we doin‘ here rn?

[patent dust]

im only praying for this right now, i loved marathon's theme .

[supple hound]

couldnt dodge the mods though

[ancient shoal]

Suffer

[weary fog]

There are many options in-between that (illegal) suggestion and accepting the apology. You can just say you don't care, the corporate response is good enough for you and move on.

[sweet pier]

I was born a hater, I don’t half commit, I wake up early to hate on things

[rigid quartz]

nah... you're giving them too much credit.

[sweet pier]

I eat breathe drink and hate from dusk till dawn

[indigo spruce]

The stream was also a Shit show

[dark shell]

Bungie artists trying to survive a day of making original art

[red dune]

That's the half of it

[weary fog]

Such as not defending the corporate entity.

[hazy rivet]

PLAGIARISM_WILL_MAKE_ME_GOD

[ancient shoal]

Literally too soon.
They had nothing to say anything back

[silver wadi]

You may say its illegal but by this point im sure you would be happy to hear if it happend lmao

[red dune]

Why am I not surprised that they got grabbed by an original artist noticing they took art elements from art pieces years ago and didn't bother to credit them

[supple hound]

yeah the timing of that stream was horrendous

[red dune]

Corporations and companies...

[weary fog]

Of course I wouldn't. I'm bothered about individuals suffering, like the original artist.

[indigo spruce]

Fr. Bungie just hire her pls. I dont understand why u dont want to like tf

[solid yew]

seriously, this person needs to be on the verge of a panic attack every single day, knowing their whole scam could be exposed any day lol

[sweet pier]

No matter what they do someone will complain

[silver wadi]

So you want developers to also suffer lmao

[sweet pier]

So fuck it just throw smthing out, people will cry no matter what

[wise phoenix]

I don’t think enough people are talking about this art theft situation

[indigo spruce]

But…?

[untold fern]

yeah i think urr right and i feel like that is the thing marathon will be a little casual so it is kinda interesting, I think the game loop is grinding factions and character builds and how they play but i wonder once you complete everything what is next. like the endgame

Is just this game feels different than a typical extraction. they said if you get all gold on gun the gun changes, like idk is just interesting

[sweet pier]

Give them a thing of money and say sorry then fuck off

[buoyant linden]

inb4 they are threathened with unemployment if they agree with you

[sweet pier]

Cause no one else can do anything lmao

[weary fog]

Same thing? It's not about being cool, I just don't like that this behaviour is being accepted repeatedly.

[dark shell]

Bungie trying to apologize for stealing art for the 46th time

[supple hound]

oh no, theres definitely been enough in these last couple days golllleeeeeeee

[buoyant linden]

yea she doesn't

[sweet pier]

Sausage dog

[indigo spruce]

Makes sense. But why in gods Name would this Happen the 4th time?

[wise phoenix]

😂

[sweet pier]

Cause these ppl ain’t bungie artists they were fucking contract workers

It’s bungies fault for not doing QA 😭

[ancient shoal]

Real. I don't like the cynical view saying "this already happened thrice, let it happen again".
She deserves a good financial compensation

[dark shell]

Bungie artists finding out they can steal art and make money

[weary fog]

It's too late for that. They stole from someone. That was their choice not mine.

[wise phoenix]

You stole my heart ❤️

[sweet pier]

Negative auraaaaaa

[solid yew]

"let creatives suffer instead so i can enjoy my new video gaem 😡😡😡"

[sweet pier]

-90

[red dune]

I don't think it would be that interesting if you get the gun to all gold and it changes. If you ask me, even if you move on to end game and even if they promise more maps unlike the ones we are getting on launch, and the marathon map promising raid like mechanics....eh.

You need to make something for the end game people as well. What else is there to do for them once they managed to see everything the game has to offer? They can make more content but that might take a while, and these kinds of shooters live or die on the player base and how much the game is thriving

[sweet pier]

Basedddddd thatd my plan

[ancient shoal]

They never stated that.
They stated they stabled contact. And saying "we'd like to" is ambiguity, not confirmation of a fair agreement

[red dune]

If it doesn't thrive, then what's the point?

[sweet pier]

Remember kids art online is free, you can just take it

[wise phoenix]

Guys don’t worry. This art situation… I’ll take care of it 😎

[sweet pier]

There’s no price sign on it, like stop signs you can legally take it

[umbral rune]

Are you still on about the art theft 💀💀💀💀

[patent dust]

can i take ur profile pic and banner

[sweet pier]

And no one can stop you

[solid yew]

what else is there to talk about

[ancient shoal]

Which is left ambiguous still

[buoyant linden]

such an odd amount of confidence would you think?

[dark shell]

Bungie devs searching for more art to steal

[sweet pier]

No :3, the banner was a birthday gift and my pfp is lost to timr

[civic garden]

/dac

[weary fog]

I hope no one is ever apathetic to your troubles.

[patent dust]

but everything online is free

[sweet pier]

Unless it’s mine

[wise phoenix]

Someone took art. That’s enough information to argue about for at least a few more weeks

[patent dust]

that literally inspect element

[sweet pier]

If it’s mine it’s not, everything else is

[umbral rune]

🤓

[dark shell]

No it's evil sale

[sweet pier]

https://tenor.com/view/lazy-town-queen-king-slay-idrc-gif-7282679

[wise phoenix]

Hard not to be confident when you’re me 😼

[buoyant linden]

sherlock

[patent dust]

wth, lemme check

[ancient shoal]

The final agreement, do right might as well mean a simple apology. They already did that according to the destiny community

[round sigil]

They spent the whole thing yapping about the game and their feedback from the alpha, and nobody knew wtf they were even talking about because they only gave out a handful of alpha keys....how are you gonna go full blown word salad for an hour about things like TTK changes and kills per clip when people havent even played the game.

[sweet pier]

This is canon to marathon lore guys

[red dune]

A handful?

[buoyant linden]

i wonder what billain would say to this

[wise phoenix]

Someone is mad they didn’t get into the alpha

[red dune]

Unless that feedback is from the lucky few and streamers of course

[untold fern]

mhm, im hoping there is alot to come and they seem to be dedicated to always upadting thats why im invested ngl. I just think wit the gold and how different heroes play creates a scence of fresh air, but i agree it can get old. Im hoping the best

[umbral rune]

What did I just watch

[wise phoenix]

Probably that I’m underselling my value and should be more confident

[sweet pier]

Marathon lore, next time read

[red dune]

We will have to see

[harsh blade]

beta plss

[patent dust]

Can we pretend like its Arc raider server since there no chat available so we can use this one

[dark shell]

How a bungie artist sleeps knowing they copy and pasted an entire twitter page

[round sigil]

Steam peaked at 6k players so I mean thats a drop in the bucket

[patent dust]

where, front or back?

[ancient shoal]

And I'll stay posted until the results are public

[untold fern]

💯

[buoyant linden]

why are you like this

[umbral rune]

Should I get arc raiders or marathon?

[wise phoenix]

And you weren’t one of them 😢 so now you gotta crap on people

[round sigil]

It was awful, just look at the chat lol

[digital widget]

I think you already know the answer.

[untold fern]

league of legends

[harsh blade]

?

[solid yew]

listening to coderace while shitting on bungie 8)

[wise phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/new-post-gif-6651148145446605431

[patent dust]

which one will please u more

[ancient shoal]

Real

[sweet pier]

Buy marathon so people will complain more

[wise phoenix]

I am who society made me

[patent dust]

https://tenor.com/bz6hPnuBXyM.gif

[harsh blade]

?

[round sigil]

I'm just being honest. I'm hopeful for the game, Bungie has been my favorite developer for nearly 20 years.

[indigo spruce]

1 tausend yard stare fr

[sweet pier]

I’m gonna buy it but not play it, specifically to spite people now

[patent dust]

come to me

[untold fern]

i just hope arc raiders is not overhyped like the finals was pre release

[harsh blade]

?_

[wise phoenix]

The finals and arc raiders aren’t even the same genre 😂

[languid trail]

The point

[patent dust]

yes, boi, now get close

[solid yew]

but same dev, no?

[ancient shoal]

The Finals was a side project that went out of control tbh

[red dune]

I say the finals are okay

[untold fern]

is by same company

[dark shell]

Bungie artist getting caught stealing artwork (again)

[polar flame]

arc raiders is so overhyped xDD i played its just ok nothing woah

[sweet pier]

The point is to flip people off for saying how I should feel when I don’t care about this artist at all because I don’t know them nor do I pay attention to twitter

[weary fog]

To everyone who doesn't care about the theft, you should at least care that this will contribute to a significant drop in the player base. Which would result in a subpar experience for anyone left when they have to squeeze.

[untold fern]

idk i bought into the hype and even supported the game but then after few days i felt empty

[polar flame]

imagine care about this, give me marathon plzzz

[patent dust]

man we do care, but we getting tired of seeing same msg over and over again

[wise phoenix]

Same company mean nothing. Games are very different. Kinda like bungie made halo 2 and halo 3

[sweet pier]

Well then too damn bad

[umbral rune]

There won't be a beta atp

[solid yew]

lol, everybody got it except you

[dark shell]

Bungie artists trying to do anything other than copy/paste

[weary fog]

That solo-q timer going to be long.

[red dune]

I only played it a few times, it felt okay to me. I'm not sure if I'm able to play Arc Raiders, my computer would explode

[patent dust]

Marathon Success or Destiny 3
pick

[wise phoenix]

Oh I got “it” alright

[ancient shoal]

Griff, obtain new material

[polar flame]

lol hater go cry in corner marathon top

[untold fern]

yeh i agree but the game was overhyped like arc raiders is right now

[umbral rune]

D3

[frigid mantle]

I'll still try out the game on release but will never stop dunking on these goofy ahh devs for what they've done

[sweet pier]

God both of these are bad

[buoyant linden]

i have a genuine question.
why is it so hard to pay antireal?

[sweet pier]

I do not want a d3 at all

[weary fog]

Why would they care about your dunks if you've just given them your money?

[sly falcon]

FREE MY BOY BUNGIE HE DOEN NITHING WRONG!!!!!

[patent dust]

all budget went behind cinematic

[umbral rune]

They won't be able to buy anymore supercars

[wise phoenix]

I told u im taking care of it

[ancient shoal]

And they are bangers

[buoyant linden]

what does that mean

[sly falcon]

Are you dumb?

[buoyant linden]

no

[sweet pier]

They waiting for a parlay and response

[frigid mantle]

Considering how my beta experience went I'll know everything I need to in less than 2 hours and then goes the refund if nothing been improved

[digital widget]

Wrong answer.

[buoyant linden]

yet fern hasn't heard a thing yet 🤔

pretty odd innit?

[sweet pier]

Supposedly

[weary fog]

That would be a different issue then. Not terribly related to art theft.

[sweet pier]

No evidence one way or the other

[buoyant linden]

nothings happened yet so i figured

[shut hawk]

webi wabo

[umbral rune]

Red war and curse of osiris

[sly falcon]

Bruh she’s not gonna personally DM you the info tf do you mean

[sweet pier]

Truth nuke

[ancient shoal]

Wavabooo

[weary fog]

Do you think she would take the money?

[sly falcon]

Shit happens behind the scenes

[sweet pier]

Who wants to say “yeah curse of Osiris was my idea!”
Like id pay to not have my name on it 😭😭😭

[buoyant linden]

i was literally in a voice call with billain yesterday

[sweet pier]

Same w/ red war

[ancient shoal]

Depends on the quantity tbh

[buoyant linden]

im not saying spill out your credit card details n shiet

[peak herald]

Most likely they are going to scrap whatever money they had left for the development of this game and use it to try to settle and avoid a lawsuit.

[buoyant linden]

i bet you a hundred bucks you're wrong

[weary fog]

Exactly, it would be hush-money or at least not publicly condemn money. Rather than just paying for the art.

[hasty leaf]

man I rll had high hopes for this game, its so sad to watch a big company ruin a project with their scummy behaviour, Marathon deserves far more then to become a fraudulent project

[buoyant linden]

the legal team on her side is not just a random better call saul bozo

[sweet pier]

Destiny 2 fans when you tell them to name a red war moment that’s good that also isn’t the first mission, journey, or homecoming:

[weary fog]

But at this point it's not about the art.

[dark shell]

Bungie artists getting away with more stolen artwork

[ancient shoal]

You don't make a beta for youtubers to post stolen placeholders on YouTube. A company the size of Bungie cannot operate that way

[round sigil]

The whole art fiasco is just adding another log to the fire, once this blows over the issues with the game will still exist. Hopefully the open beta happens sooner rather than later and they can get an actual test group of players to collect data from.

[buoyant linden]

why don't you send fern like dms on social media instead of just one email?

reaching out should be reaching out not just an email you can easily avoid

i know i know

[sweet pier]

We don’t know if lawyers are gonna be involved

[supple hound]

so once compensation is made, regardless of Bungie's statement at value, undeniably, 100s of artists are now having their work berated because of no fault of their own. i'd also argue Cross wasn't responsible. is he accountable? 100%. just imagine for a moment though, almost 5 years of work as art lead, hell, his entire career, now slandered. people have been really quick to point the finger at him, but what would he have to gain from knowingly plagiarizing someones work?
i don't mean to say all of this to out-weigh the severity of the artist who was ripped off, but just to give insight into the mania on the other side of it.

[buoyant linden]

oh there will be

[peak herald]

The entire art direction of the game is directly lifted from her work. The art director for the game has been following her since 2018. She could completely wring them out to dry if she wants to.

[sweet pier]

We have no fucking gauge how serious they are

[digital widget]

Considering her one tweet made the art director have a panic attack live on Twitch, I bet she has the ability to bury this game.

[rancid pebble]

smoke signals

[buoyant linden]

yuppp

[weary fog]

I sypathise with the creatives on both sides. But the fact is that this is a repeated offence.

[peak herald]

Mental gymnastics

[rancid pebble]

one person's career tanking doesn't mean a small time graphic designer has any chance against two gigantic companies

[hasty leaf]

thats so fucking scummy 💀 I hope bungie pays hefty so they lose far more then they saved by cutting costs

[peak herald]

Not like it matters. I’m betting we’ll get the cancellation notice for the game before next Friday.

[dark shell]

You can't just steal artwork!!!

[supple hound]

the likes of which has never been seen at such a scale

[round sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[lucid hare]

This ain’t the first time bungie has had plagiarism issues… probably not just one dudes doing.

[ancient shoal]

At least she got some good exposition.
I hope she gets some good job offers from this. Imagine getting all those new designs from the source

[digital widget]

The damage is already done, brother man. Whatever Bungie had left for Marathon's success has vanished.

[lucid hare]

Think so?

[supple hound]

lawsuit money is no joke i highlyyyyyyyyyyyyy doubt

[weary fog]

There will be a lot of support headed her way, further increasing the cost of any hush-money.

[rancid pebble]

nah we're just in the echo chamber anyone outside of here likely doesn't give two shits if they're at all interested in marathon

[dark shell]

Marathon gameplay

[peak herald]

She posted her work in 2017 and the art director for the game started following her in 2018 along with a bunch of other Bungie employees, so you do the mental connect-the-dots on that one.

[weary fog]

That the gamers don't seem to care :D, maybe we can change that this time.

[ancient shoal]

You can have that one

[round sigil]

The open beta can change that if they do it properly.

[dense stream]

they give some accese to beta today ?

[digital widget]

A beta key just flew by my window!

[ancient shoal]

The average consumer of anything really. Good thing some people are always willing to highlight clear issues

[weary fog]

Yes they should know better. Working at a company which has had previous problems with plagiarism, it should be strictly monitored.

[buoyant linden]

are you in cyberneuro by any chance?

[tall flower]

I just saw a beautiful bird outside, wait that’s not a bird… it’s a beta key

[dense stream]

oof

[round sigil]

inb4 they give out less than 10k beta keys and 80% of them go to streamers and their "friends" via priority access keys.

[summer apex]

You're getting lukewarm and mixed reviews. People only agree on praising your artistic direction, and it turns out it's a rip-off. Honestly, this game should be delayed indefinitely.

[round sigil]

Do you think it didnt?

That's wild

[buoyant linden]

ahem

[weary fog]

Now you're making assumptions.

[slender crater]

Kinda sucks that this project is gonna fail now, was liking its vibe

[supple hound]

idk if its majorly known but they stated today that they're currently sweeping through all assets to clear / label anything that used her work

[ancient shoal]

Real. Marathon was outstanding because it was bold. Now people have severe doubts about that too

[tall flower]

Even before this I don’t think it was going to do well

[buoyant linden]

CYBERNEURO EPISODE 0 just saying

[slender crater]

Yeah, this really sealed the deal

[round sigil]

The numbers don't lie hombre

[slender crater]

Oh well

[tall flower]

Is there a beta happening today or something?

[dim frost]

looks nothing like marathon. way busier.

[peak herald]

You can take literally 5 minutes and look at the source material/evidence and see that it’s a way bigger deal than what they are letting on.

[dark shell]

You can't just steal artwork and put it in a 17 billion dollar game!!!! Bungie:

[deft jacinth]

F

[dense stream]

i hope

[summer apex]

Trying to defend Bungie in this way is ridiculous. The entire soul of the art direction has been stolen.

[weary fog]

That would be suicidal. They would be trying to keep as quiet as possible.

[round sigil]

Pull up the steam charts and come back to me with your foot in your mouth

[summer apex]

Siempre me puedes comer los huevos

[supple hound]

its almost like it was the alpha, the alpha, thats now over

[gleaming sundial]

lol keep on defending a company who has got caught doing this 4 times now.

[round sigil]

He's a shameless shill

[tall flower]

Extraction shooters just seems too niche a genre to me

[summer apex]

XD

[lime jewel]

Comparing to Arc, it was abysmal

[round sigil]

You're just mad that you are wrong

[tall flower]

It’s just a battle royale but you can extract gear?

[weary fog]

At this point does it matter? The point is a lot of people are going to think it was, and youtubers are going to shout about it and spread that to more listeners.

[tall flower]

like is that really worth an entire sub genre

[dark shell]

Marathon playerbase

[gleaming sundial]

They are making a game for an audience that doesn’t exist. It’s not going to pull Destiny players because they don’t want to lose their loot. It won’t pull Tarkov players because it’s absurdly shallow.

[lucid hare]

How are you so certain about everything?

[weary fog]

It does suck but the blame lies elsewhere.

[round sigil]

But I'm not wrong, or mad, or resorting to insults like you lmao

[peak herald]

You’re legitimately delusional.

[agile swan]

Well it sure isn't worth 20 classic cars from Pete's collection

[gleaming sundial]

By the numbers x. It doesn’t.

[lucid hare]

Alright

[lime jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[dark shell]

Marathon will be real in 2013

[buoyant linden]

''oh no bosnia stole art for statues from bungies original ideas''

[round sigil]

and 6k peaked on steam during the alpha GG

[lime jewel]

Discord members does not = players in game or people who will play the game. I know, math hard

[supple hound]

enjoy your pubg shouldercam, star wars battlefront, unsaturated, owrc wayduhs

[peak herald]

“Because I’m on a manic trip and I’m using it to defend marathon.”

[gleaming sundial]

410,999 are here to dunk on you.

[buoyant linden]

the artstyle bungie is using from antireal actually is inspired by the artists countries murals and statues so you basically stole the whole style at this point

[round sigil]

cope harder

[agile swan]

There was no art stolen in ba sing se

[tall flower]

Marathon does not feel like a 2025 game

[lime jewel]

Enjoy your half baked attempt at an extraction shooter

[ancient shoal]

I agree

[weary fog]

Shill harder

[round sigil]

But it can be stolen

[buoyant linden]

plagiarism is not inspiration

[agile swan]

It feelz like an indie dev, tried their hand in an extraction shooter in 2019

[weary fog]

Put your prick away kid

[ancient shoal]

Bungie already stole it

[lucid hare]

😐

[supple hound]

i was about to say all is forgiven but then you had to ruin it, go to the nepalese mountains and seek atonement with the monks why dont you

[lucid hare]

Crazy self report

[obsidian plover]

Has the adhd kicked in yet?

[gleaming sundial]

So I played the alpha with some of my friends who are big Destiny 2 players. My primary game is Tarkov. Currently sitting at 2500 hours and prestige 2 this wipe so very well versed with the game. None of us thought Marathon was anywhere close to being in a state to release.

[lime jewel]

So are you a robot oooor...

[marsh snow]

The guy that said this is now Vice President lol

[stuck aurora]

bro selected all of the above

[lucid hare]

Ah

[obsidian plover]

Nope. The adhd hasn’t kicked in yet.

[gleaming sundial]

At least it’s fun.

[lime jewel]

That's special talk for people who can't play it lmfao

[lucid hare]

Bros definitely on Reddit

[agile swan]

He must be drinking wine with Pete and discussing which car should they buy next

[peak herald]

Are we betting Monday, Friday, 2 weeks, or 1 month before we get the notice of cancellation for the game? Place your bets.

I’m going with Friday.

[obsidian plover]

Not going to happen. Move along.

[lime jewel]

Which is what Marathon was designed after

[agile swan]

I'll give it a month, Fridays too soon

[dark shell]

🤮

[obsidian plover]

That’s not the w you think it is

[polar flame]

who cares, marathon goat

[gleaming sundial]

It’s not for the adhd zoomers. You gotta put hundreds of hours into Tarkov before you understand it.

[formal seal]

Stealing artwork massively damages an artists credibility and career, so I think it’s unlikely someone did it on purpose.

[lime jewel]

Now now, Bungie has a hard enough time juggling controversies...I doubt they could juggle three rocks

[obsidian plover]

That’s definitely not the w you think it is

[tall flower]

I am the reason 32 servers need moderation 🗿

[polar flame]

tarkov great game but im tired to dying to no life 5k hours players and optimization 💀

[lucid hare]

Who’s gonna tell them…

[obsidian plover]

That absolutely not the w you think it is

[dark shell]

Discord kitten gonna love this one

[agile swan]

Now it's just rage baiting

[low kernel]

They definitely can't juggle multiple games

[summer apex]

It's funny to see how the Tarkov playerbase is moving to PVE mode.

[spiral dust]

i like how every person defending bungie/marathon at this point eventually devolves into random insults and lame ragebait

[lucid hare]

Calm down Jamal

[tidal harness]

Before 2 rounds of layoffs, maybe. Now, no they can't

[obsidian plover]

Oh I really hope this is some skillful trolling.

[gleaming sundial]

One day you will be the predator and others will be the prey. It’s got ups and downs but the highs are so high and the lows are real low. Marathon had none of those feelings.

[polar flame]

yeah strange because fighting AI in this game is so boring xD

[spiral dust]

my point still stands.

[peak herald]

Yes corporations that do mass layoffs and fire employees to increase shareholder value just LOVE over budget games that are projected to be commercial failures that also turn into huge PR disasters and an expensive lawsuit/settlement.

[agile swan]

Can't input anymore facts or genuinely good arguments, devolve into lame insults and rage bait

[polar flame]

yeah maybe i will haha

[untold fern]

your not a sunflower

[spiral dust]

is that an invitation?

[tall flower]

I don’t think I want to 💀

[lime jewel]

You ever heard of a bullshit artist? Well that's how they talked their way into making this game

[spiral dust]

yeah i am

[agile swan]

PLAGIARISM WILL MAKE ME GOD

[untold fern]

okiee

[gleaming sundial]

There’s nothing wrong with people wanting to play the PvE mode honestly. If that’s how they want to enjoy Tarkov that’s cool. The game is a large time investment and not everyone has that.

[dark shell]

Bro hop on marathon

[supple hound]

"Bungie please add a solo difficulty to Destiny raids so i can go 1v1 grapple Rhulk sweaty style"

[obsidian plover]

Lololol. First time for a “they stole muh art/code/ideas” rodeo for you, eh?

[polar flame]

i start playing arena breakout because has so much better optimization and sbmm

[ancient shoal]

It's true, I am the sun

[untold fern]

us

[peak herald]

What are you even trying to say here?

[obsidian plover]

Praise the sun

[lime jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/knight-solar-praise-the-sun-gif-5316154

[ancient fern]

"Kick me like one of your french guardians"

[gleaming sundial]

They fixed a bunch of stuff in the latest patch. But you do you play whatever you think is fun. I’m fortunate enough to be able to afford a top end pc so the optimization doesn’t affect me as much.

[obsidian plover]

It never results in the bad pr that is perceptible, or games getting canceled, bla bla bla. Why would it be any different this time?

[polar flame]

yeah but still for low-mid pc (rtx 3050) its run badly

[lime jewel]

If you running a 3050 that's on you then lol

[dark shell]

Oh waiter! More failed extraction shooters please!

[gleaming sundial]

Oh dude yeah for sure that’s brutal. I run a 9800X3D/4080S

[peak herald]

Because the game got horrible feedback, views, and bled players on its opening week and reached peak lows on Friday Sat and Sun, which is the largest red flag I’ve ever seen from a game.

[polar flame]

lol i got in all games good fps xdd

[obsidian plover]

Nah.

[peak herald]

If they release this it honestly has the potential to flop worse than concord did.

[polar flame]

bro tiktok ahh pc specialist @lime jewel 🤣

[elder wharf]

cant believe switzerland stole antireals art style

[tall flower]

Wdym nah?

[lime jewel]

I'm actually a Service Desk Specialist

[obsidian plover]

Impossible. Literally impossible.

[gleaming sundial]

Not to mention the train wreck of a dev livestream yesterday.

[obsidian plover]

Nah means nah.

[untold fern]

nOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[obsidian plover]

What made it a train wreck?

[agile swan]

Like fr.... You chose one of the worst ever GPU ever made into existence, with a price that is garbage... Just to play on medium to low settings

[dark shell]

Let's be positive about marathon for a change! I like how the game...uhhh...

[gleaming sundial]

They had nothing concrete to say about changes. Multiple technical issues.

[ancient shoal]

The uncomfortable silence

[tall flower]

One small part of it

[lime jewel]

Point of my comment too was you shouldn't expect companies to bother with a dated graphics card

[digital widget]

Who gets a 3050 honestly?

[peak herald]

The worst part of all of this was on a previous stream when the guy asked them what the point of loot was and they all looked at him like they just got hit with a flashbang. One of them started talking about factions for some reason.

[digital widget]

Even a 1080 would be better.

[obsidian plover]

the chats the only trainwreck visible

[polar flame]

i bought it on sale and its okay in 1080p bro you dont need 4090 to play games xdd

[spiral dust]

you're doing this again? come on man get better material

[gleaming sundial]

They couldn’t tell anyone what changes they were making to address the glaring issues in the alpha. Just “we have a baseline and we’re working on it in the future” they spoke like the game comes out in 2 years not 4 months.

[untold fern]

people said they would disable chat but they didnt

[polar flame]

dated? omg bro 4090 🤓 ahh fan

[elder wharf]

u right it was nike

[tall flower]

You’re really adamant on defending a billion dollar company with a string of plagiarism aren’t you?

[agile swan]

That's true you don't need a 4090, but you definitely don't want to spend on bad products especially when someone is on a budget

[lime jewel]

I'm running a 3060 lol it's 2 generations behind, it is considered dated at this point

[untold fern]

antireal did it first

[spiral dust]

this is the same thing again.

[stoic hull]

bro he looked like he was going to kurt cobain himself for the entire stream

[elder wharf]

ugh fine ill go find more ppl that stole from antireal

[obsidian plover]

It’s an aloha state product. There’s a cycle here, and most companies never disclose everything. If much at all. What are you looking for here? It’s not “open alpha / beta” stuff.

[supple hound]

techwear is too huge to consider it plagiarism

[agile swan]

Clueless people trying to get into PC gaming and saw the word RTX and think it's any good

[dark shell]

When bro gifts me marathon

[peak herald]

That’s someone who has to go do a livestream knowing they are cancelling the game in a week. 100000%

[gleaming sundial]

This was honestly the thing that told me everything I needed to know about the state of the game. They are out of their depth and don’t understand how the popular extraction shooters handle loot.

[polar flame]

yeah you right 3050 is bad but look on tarkov, graphics in this game look terrible XD i will change card in few months

[lime jewel]

That cause Tarkov in of itself is dated as FUCK

[agile swan]

Tarkov is pretty bad itself tbh

[stoic hull]

buy a 5090 and get faked, ghosting, DLLS ridden frames

[supple hound]

char grilled them dayum

[obsidian plover]

Not defending anything, just stating facts. Heated keyboard warriors aren’t solving anything and choosing a weird hill to waste time on that they can never get back in their lives.

I’m sure this is going to be a defining moment for many on their deathbeds. /s

[quaint arch]

What about 4060s? What do we think about them?

[agile swan]

Still garbage,

[quaint arch]

Dang

[supple hound]

I HAVE I HAVE

[stoic hull]

1070ti is a goated card, dont buy anything else

[gleaming sundial]

“The feedback survey at the end of the alpha stated players did not like this, this is X plan to address that. They won’t even add prox chat which is what everyone is asking for.

[polar flame]

im thinking about 7800XT

[untold fern]

is ryzen 7 9800X3D (4.7GHz)/5070 liquid cooled better than a 9800X3D (4.7GHz)/5070ti air cooled?

[lime jewel]

If you're on a 30 series card, you'd be better going with the 5060ti

[lucid hare]

🤨

[agile swan]

But it was a comparison between a turd sandwich and another turd sandwich, might as well get the least turd sandwich

[lime jewel]

Scrumpty.....?

[quaint arch]

I unironically used a 750ti with a bootleg cooling system bolted onto it for like seven years

[lucid hare]

Pretty good for 1440p but hard to get for a good price rn

[obsidian plover]

It all goes back to prox chat lol.

[tall flower]

How many years before gameplay was shown was Marathon announced?

[peak herald]

I think it’s mostly just catharsis for old gamers who loved Bungie considering the guy who runs it is a corporate suit who used underhanded tactics to push all the original employees out of the company, and then did mass layoffs after having a massively profitable year.

[agile swan]

The 70ti lol, it's 20% faster than a 5070

[supple hound]

i will die on the no prox chat hill idc

[daring coral]

depends how much you care about frame gen, if you dont mind framegen go for 50 series otherwise might aswell go for 40 series 🤷‍♂️

[obsidian plover]

[gleaming sundial]

That’s not the only issue dude. It’s a big one though.

[polar flame]

i just need gpu for pc and it was on sale xD (i got 1050 2gb before) i should buy rx6600 instead but i see 3050 and bought it...

[lucid hare]

Spunchly…?

[lime jewel]

That's what I've been looking at, but the 5060ti is a little cheaper

[nova moss]

there isnt a worse game launch possible, concord had an all time peak of 697 while marathons test was 6,919 peak

[untold fern]

ight bet bet ty

[polar flame]

in poland same price so i will take rx i guess

[untold fern]

i thought liquid cooling has an advanatge

[quaint arch]

I went from 750ti to 4060 lol

[obsidian plover]

Maybe so, but it’s a soulless corporation at this point. Like Reddit. Driven for shareholder value. The substance of the organization doesn’t matter internally.

[gleaming sundial]

You don’t need liquid cooling for any of those components unless you OC the hell out of them. Get the ti

[stoic hull]

negligable advantage for consumer builds

[tall flower]

We’ll see how it looks at full launch, I doubt it’ll beat in Concord in record lows but it won’t be good

[lime jewel]

Must be nice, I have a half built case right now and I need a new GPU. I wanted to go full team red

[agile swan]

No point to liquid cool for a 5070, it's not worth it... Just looks cool that's it... Maintenance is a headache and you would not like it

[stoic hull]

more often than not, youre wasting money and build space by going liquid

[obsidian plover]

Exactly.

[untold fern]

ah i see

[gleaming sundial]

The cards run cool and are super efficient even with a mild overclock

[nova moss]

i dont have high hopes for either but marathon is at least a little interesting

[lime jewel]

It helps too if you know the liquid cooling does better with being quiet as opposed to just heatsink and fan

[polar flame]

so for ryzen 5 7600x air cooling okay?

[agile swan]

That's fair it's substantial enough

[peak herald]

That’s why everyone is having so much fun dancing on the grave at the moment. Catharsis.

[gleaming sundial]

Yeah. Use good thermal paste and a good air cooler.

[lime jewel]

Anyone here get down on some For Honor?

[peak herald]

Haha you actually think this game is launching hahahaha

[agile swan]

More than enough, you can stick with air-cooling up to the 9800x3d (of course need a beefier air cooler)

[obsidian plover]

🤷‍♂️

[dark shell]

When bro gives me another marathon load out

[stoic hull]

air cooling will work for honestly anything in a personal rig.
I've only ever felt like I needed liquid for dual card PCs.

[obsidian plover]

We busy playing Anthem rn

[elder wharf]

PEPSI STOLE FROM ANTIREAL

[quaint arch]

We busy dissociating rn

[lime jewel]

The game that could of been....I miss that game

[stoic hull]

go play mordhau like a man

[sonic iron]

Don't really need liquid cooling period unless you like the look of it

[obsidian plover]

It’s not gone

[nova moss]

designers republic stole from antireal

[elder wharf]

real

[lime jewel]

No it's not, but there's nothing new to enjoy. I've already played that game out

[topaz comet]

why do grandparents never have the air conditioning on? im roasting in this house

[obsidian plover]

Mayhaps.

[stoic hull]

why are you asking us

[magic rose]

Elloo

[supple hound]

i may have criticized you before shix but the similarities here are actually wild, well done

[sonic iron]

Because as you age you get colder easily

[obsidian plover]

My grandma was always worried about the cost… she ended up giving herself congestive heart failure and large medical bills because of not running the ac… pick a battle.

[spring pebble]

because older people feel the weather abit differently then us young bucks, deal with it bud

[agile swan]

Frames so fast it made all the Nvidia cards catch on fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥

Raaaahhhh what's a proper cable standard raaaahhhh 12v high failure!!!!

[sonic iron]

I would've got the 5080 if nvidia didn't push a bunch of aislop

[stoic hull]

guys if your going to build a pc, the only part youre allowed to cheap out on is the powersink.
Buy a cheap chinese powersink off of amazon.

[agile swan]

Ahhh the 4080 super OC

[obsidian plover]

It’s in everything. Ai washing makes any business money right now.

[untold fern]

putting us on game

[gleaming sundial]

That’s what I have.

[sonic iron]

Im happy with my 3080ti

[gleaming sundial]

Good card.

[trail forge]

Me running a 1660ti

[rancid pebble]

up to x3d chips ? what's above it lol who's running epyc cpus

[obsidian plover]

I have a 3090 collecting dust. Ps5 getting all the love rn. Mister Mosquito party this weekend.

[agile swan]

The 12 and 16 core chips

[round bridge]

Legit any point of staying here anymore???

[elder wharf]

funny chat

[agile swan]

To troll every bungie defender

[dark shell]

Gtx 750 ti and 4gbs of ram is all you need

[smoky owl]

Cause it’s funny to watch the mental gymnastics that people pull to defend bungle

[sonic iron]

My eyes can't see past 24 frames

[trail forge]

My eyes see in 480p

[obsidian plover]

Rip

[agile swan]

The human eye can't see them AI frames

[waxen nebula]

Hi

[digital widget]

The human eye can't see 30 frames a second.

[obsidian plover]

[elder wharf]

they'll give me a real life glitch

[obsidian plover]

Rise up

[stoic hull]

i hope they drop a real life bomb on your real life house

[sonic iron]

What's up with newer games suggesting players to run frame gen in competitive games or when they can't even get 60 frames without frame gen

[untold fern]

yo

some void would say

[stoic hull]

this post was made by void gang

[daring coral]

so they dont have to optimise as much

[agile swan]

To cover up incompetence of optimization

[nova moss]

zero graphical improvement since ground zeroes

[sonic iron]

Frame gen isn't intended when base frames is below 60

But these dumb dumb companies have it on by default

[nova moss]

more powerful hardware only used to keep up with increasingly buggy and inneficient code

[daring coral]

if you get below 60 frames just buy a console tbf bro

[obsidian plover]

Disinformation.

[obsidian plover]

Real

[kind fox]

PlagiarismWillMakeMeGod

[obsidian plover]

Oh my god

[sonic iron]

I can't go back to console after building my computer

I may go back just to experience death stranding 2 for a month

[obsidian plover]

Say it more. Be a hero!

Real. And my pc hardly gets used. It is what it is.

[sonic iron]

The chat for the stream last night was saying plaigiarism_will_make_me_god but that's not how you spell it

[trail forge]

Me who grew up thinking i was doing numbers when i force my laptop to pull 15fps on car mechanic simulator 2017

[topaz comet]

name your price lets pretend this never happend

[kind fox]

I'll stop saying it when Bungie compensates the artist

[obsidian plover]

Okay you could just email it to em. What’s it solving by clogging up the chat?

[smoky owl]

Cry

[obsidian plover]

PS4 is 12 years old?

[sonic iron]

Thats actually really easy

Now ps5? Not so much with the tariffs

[obsidian plover]

Yeah but.. That’s what you are already doing. Don’t need to add more tears here.

[agile swan]

It died after covid

[trail forge]

I mean if i had 1k at hand yeah(release price of the ps4 in my country)

[kind fox]

I'm not clogging nothing, it's on slow mode and you should want justice for the little guy. I can want a game to be good while holding the developers accountable

[digital widget]

So you're clogging sonmething?

[obsidian plover]

It is when you have a cacophony of those doing it. How is spamming “justice”?

[trail forge]

Dont even have a reference price, things limited stock is sold out locally

[sonic iron]

Before or after price increase of the console

[mint kettle]

wtf is this cryptic message the bot sent me when I joined

[obsidian plover]

All hardware has received price increases due to economic constraints. Consoles aren’t exclusive.

[sonic iron]

Thats the point

[smoky owl]

Don’t worry about it

[obsidian plover]

Lmaoooo

[sonic iron]

All hardware other than the switch 2 for the moment at least

You just gotta pay more for the accessories

[kind fox]

I said it once so far and I'll be back tomorrow to "spam" it again

[obsidian plover]

Shrek 2 gonna be lit

[north stratus]

See y’all aren’t talking about the chaotic approach to gaming: forcing a 3060 to fit in a setup where a 3060 shouldn’t fit and propping it up with a chopstick

[obsidian plover]

Great, cool. Hope you get noticed!

[sonic iron]

I was going to grab a 5080 but nvidia dropped the ball so I got this instead

[obsidian plover]

Lmao pc gamers will use anything meme

[smoky owl]

Bungle ain’t gonna give you compensation for defending them

[sonic iron]

Do they even use the DAC anymore

[lavish brook]

Marathon is so over LOL

[kind fox]

If they did would defend them too

[north stratus]

I’m normally an Xbox gamer but I had to sell that for financial reasons and I couldn’t sell my mangled ass PC 😂

[obsidian plover]

You are assuming I’m defending. I’m just using my time constructively.

[elder wharf]

GUYS BUNGO STOLE FROM GHOST IN THE SHELL

[hasty leaf]

💀💀💀 its so ironic that this game was sucha shit athlete that it couldnt complete its own marathon

[smoky owl]

You’re not actually saying anything

[kind fox]

I have played D1 and most of D2 to understand that Bungie loves abusing us their players

[smoky owl]

The way you’re recycling jokes you’d think you were a Bungie dev

[elder wharf]

ive never posted these pics before but ok

[topaz comet]

i didnt want to believe any of you but after watching that stream, the game might be cooked

[smoky owl]

It’s the same joke

[spiral dust]

actually true, it’s hard to find someone in-game that says that they actively enjoy playing

[north stratus]

I literally tore into the metal frame with a multitool so the graphics card could fit horizontally

[elder wharf]

maybe ppl will understand that a couple decals isnt the same thing as an art style then

[sonic iron]

I played d1 a lot and learned to not bother with d2

[obsidian plover]

Please mate, that’s what I’m trying to tell you. And you are glazing my arse as a bungie defense force. Take some adderall or something.

[smoky owl]

Yap

[obsidian plover]

Lmaoooo

[lunar lion]

Where were you when marerthon ded?

[obsidian plover]

Yap on.

[kind fox]

How is he defending??

[elder wharf]

Yap off.

[hasty leaf]

couple decals mate? 💀 u mean actively following an artist since 2018 to later copy their art so blatenly to not even remove their watermarks?

[north stratus]

Playing Expedition 33

[elder wharf]

exhibit a for why i keep posting

[smoky owl]

It’s blatantly obvious they did

[obsidian plover]

Yeah okay. You aren’t even paying attention to chat at this point.

[obsidian plover]

Yap on

[smoky owl]

What’s there to pay attention to

[kind fox]

THAT IS SO TRUEE I MISS D1

[obsidian plover]

Bro got the current chat conversation reversed. Stay in your lane lmao.

[north stratus]

Fellas I miss when general chat was just faction propaganda 😩

[quaint arch]

I genuinely like playing Destiny 2? Idk what y'all are on about

[smoky owl]

Still is in a way

[elder wharf]

antireal stole from machine56 then right, they've been doing this stuff since 2013

[smoky owl]

Unlikely

[thick shuttle]

that was b4 the game play reveal trailer

[smoky owl]

lol degrees of clownage never seen before

[lunar lion]

resurrect techwear

[elder wharf]

but its the same art style no?

[north stratus]

I know I know lol

[kind fox]

Bungie literally admitted to stealing that person's art and it seems like you can't acknowledge that 😂

[velvet fractal]

Ppl defending bungie are the reason i work in AI, ppl don't care anyway. Might as well get the bag.

[white jetty]

Find Antireal airbrushing "machine56" off stuff and trying to take credit for it like Bungie did and I'm with you

[elder wharf]

I never once claimed bungie didnt steal assets/decals

[quaint arch]

Prismatic Hunter with Arc Ergo Sum is some of the most fun I've ever had in a game

[thick shuttle]

hard to keep hype when they under delivered honestly

[digital widget]

Marathon rn.

[spiral dust]

oh i did too when i still played, i’m not saying that everyone hates the game, but good lord the amount of downers i met in the tower any time i ever used local chat and the miserable people i met in raids is draining

[sonic iron]

You're a monster

[north stratus]

I didn’t even get a code 😂 also it was finals week anyways I would NOT have had time between that and like 4 concerts that same week

[quaint arch]

Ah I've never raided so I wouldn't know. 600 hours of PvE and Iron Banner has kept my interest

[quaint arch]

Do better.

[smoky owl]

Missing the good content huh

[elder wharf]

yeah but 3 decals arent really the same thing as an entire art style are they (like some people are claiming)

[sonic iron]

Don't start raiding, it sucks

[velvet fractal]

Point is arc raiders is also coming this year, they are both 40$ . If you have 1 40 to spend, things like this is what will make the common person chose the latter. The game is cooked.

[quaint arch]

The duality of man

[white jetty]

"They're still talking about it..."

[vapid tangle]

objectively more than 3 decals champ

[sonic iron]

I remember playing d1 and people were the biggest gatekeepers I've ever saw

NO ICE BREAKER? NO JOIN

[smoky owl]

It’s more than 3

[elder wharf]

show me the other proof, because ive only seen the 28 thing, that line of boxes with their logo and the aleph thing

[topaz comet]

i guarentee if bungie got rid of everything they stole from her none of you bozos would even know the difference

[quaint arch]

I played D1 on a neighbor's PlayStation when it first came out. Beat the tutorial wizard and didn't pick destiny back up until well into D2

[vapid tangle]

it's 8am i have shit to do, i don't owe you spoon-feeding google is free

[topaz comet]

people just like to make mountains out of mole hills

[north stratus]

The Final Cringe

[quaint arch]

Lightfall was a mistake

[spiral dust]

raiding is best with friends, it’s awful to LFG a group because more often than not you get someone who takes the game way too seriously and treats it like an actual job

[elder wharf]

because there isnt anything else LMAO

[obsidian plover]

D1 better than d2 objectively

[sonic iron]

You shouldn't have included "from her" makes it seem like they steal from other artists

[smoky owl]

Cope

[quaint arch]

K? Who asked

[velvet fractal]

Why, most artists are petty and don't care. Wanna know when i changed my mind? When pewdiepie posted his art and ppl shat on him. Thats when i knew artist aren't moral just jealous. The more i see plagiarism, and ppl defending it the more i think, AI could have done better than just copy paste their work.

[sonic iron]

Oh wait, they probably do

[elder wharf]

u say cope but u cant show it

[obsidian plover]

Nobody asked you!

[north stratus]

You’re so right

[lunar lion]

lightfall just made me sad. Was all downhill from Witchqueen. Oh to get right into a game at its high-point and never experience that again

[astral tusk]

It's frustrating to see how many people are talking past one another in the server about the art theft. Half the people are actively denying that assets were outright stolen for graphic design in the environment or trying to argue at length how copy and pasting plagiarism is just inspiration. But, people who rightfully recognize that these assets were stolen are also pushing the narrative entirety of the art direction, everything from concept art to models, were stolen when thats also incredibly untrue.

[quaint arch]

You hold the potential of human ingenuity within you and you choose to squander it.

[topaz comet]

i need an extraction shooter on console but you filthy animals are going to get it canceled

[vapid tangle]

are you basing your entire opinion of the art industry on how people reacted to pewdiepie?? beyond satire 1/10 bait

[velvet fractal]

People were gonna get there anyway. Morality is dead. And you see it here too.

[sonic iron]

Arc raiders is coming

[topaz comet]

third person though...

[sonic iron]

Even has crossplay if you want

[velvet fractal]

I base it on the fact that most ppl are out for themselves anyway.

[modest finch]

Ive been trying to say that like yeah ferns assets being in the game is bad. But she also hasnt designed anything that looks like the runners, the uesc bots, the weapons or anything cause shes a graphic designer and theres more in marathon than its graphic design

[sonic iron]

I thought they same when I first started playing the tt2 but it actually helps the game, trust

[quaint arch]

I enjoyed the final shape for what it was.

[velvet fractal]

People will eat slop either way, what's the difference between copy pasting and using ai

[north stratus]

There’s plenty of great third person games tho(I haven’t played Arc Raiders)

[sonic iron]

Imagine being first person and not being able to see the rocketeer around the corner and dying instantly

[thick shuttle]

D2 players stick with D2 bc of stockholm syndrome

[vapid tangle]

1/10 bait 🥀

[elder wharf]

this is what ive been saying forever but apparently 3 decals = an entire art style and because their style is similar to an art style that has been around for decades

[smoky owl]

Peak writing

[chrome grail]

Cook it Cindy! Well said lol

[lunar lion]

Yeah me too. But now that the magic has worn off and I have nobody to play with, it's still kind of just sad. I can really feel the game is sort of dead now for me

[modest finch]

It being third person isnt the problem it just looks like every other third person shooter

[kindred oyster]

is beta still going on?

[smoky owl]

Bungie glazers really trying hard here

[spiral dust]

don’t forget sunk cost fallacy for a lot of people

[sonic iron]

Are you saying every first person shooter doesn't look the same?

[keen nymph]

Big oof.

[thick shuttle]

indeed

[obsidian plover]

You love to hear your own voice, don’t cha, mate?

[velvet fractal]

You will say that, and still see the art industry crumpling under you because people rather fight only if something directly affect them. The fact people are defending copy pasting tells you that if bungie started using ai they will still play their games.

[topaz comet]

looks like a reskin of the division. not awful. just not what i want to play

[sonic iron]

Because they kinda do

[smoky owl]

They’ve also plagiarized on 4 spew occasions guy. Game development is hard

[elder wharf]

bro ive been joking about how the game is going to flop for ages but people lying about the degree of "theft" is absurd. No one has denied some assets were stolen

[quaint arch]

?

[polar flame]

yeah this is so awful, marathon my game ❤️

[wooden prairie]

Is alpha over? Too late to join?

[obsidian plover]

Get in the robot, we going yapping!

[topaz comet]

if arc was a FPS marathon wouldnt get released

[nova moss]

people saying the entire aesthetic was ripped off from 1 artist really doesnt do antireal any good like thats insane

[velvet fractal]

There were people like you when concord came out. In the end ur doing a disservice for your own interests.

[vapid tangle]

people are gonna enjoy slop because people suck, that doesn't translate to "okay so slop is good and fair and fun now"

[polar flame]

nah arc looks goofy af idk what people see in it xD marathon looks really cool

[sonic iron]

That may be true but the devs refuse to say flat out "we stole some assets, im sorry"

[modest finch]

Like fern herself isnt even trying to say that its just something people decided was true the same way the marathon being 40 dollars thing was

[sonic iron]

Watch their stream yesterday

[kindred oyster]

I hope this game fails miserably, I've played every single bungie game except for the first marathon and I never got a beta key

[elder wharf]

i mean they admitted to it and said they're rectifying the situation

[keen nymph]

Are we cooked, chat?

[sonic iron]

They did not admit to it

[quaint arch]

Always have been

[smoky owl]

They didn’t directly admit anything

[polar flame]

when closed alpha test and its only for usa/canada?

[topaz comet]

marathon is great for the console community. we dont have extraction shooters

[chrome grail]

Game been on life support the moment its been mention lol

[round cape]

Glaze in the big 2025 😔

[velvet fractal]

That's not what i said, i said people are gonna eat shit anyway, so why would i feel morally wrong to work in the shit serving factory. I have the qualifications and it will get worse anyway, because for every person that fights for artists there are 3 that will eat shit.

[polar flame]

for pc too, its looks great for me really get me interest

[chrome grail]

Just waiting foe the plug to be pulled

[north stratus]

Bungie has me heartbroken man. 3456 hours of being “the lore guy” in my group and the company and franchise go to shit in the 2020s. Halo got me into composing music and caring about story and lore shit. I can’t just be happy. Bungie better unfuck themselves

[vapid tangle]

"people are gonna get murdered either way, so i'm morally correct for becoming a serial killer"

[quaint arch]

I think it's too late unfortunately

[ebon moss]

I miss when this server was just people making faction related shitposts

[smoky owl]

If only Bungie could make a game without theft

[keen nymph]

[polar flame]

who cares about it , they cooking great game

[north stratus]

I’m well aware. Hence why I have Warframe cued up behind it 😂

[kindred oyster]

good, this game can rot. I'll gladly play arc raiders

[velvet fractal]

Or you can stick it out and die with the rest. I mean its a choice you make. I rather have a job than lose mine because people are selfish.

[spiral dust]

the bungie that made halo all either left or got laid off at this point

[olive matrix]

If you ignore the veil, the lore is good

[polar flame]

arc so goofy 💩

[tough void]

a game where the art they use isnt even theirs?

[topaz comet]

Proximity chat is so the streamers can create content. it'd be shit in a game like marathon

[quaint arch]

I just wish I liked the gameplay of Warframe, I've never been able to get into it.

[smoky owl]

lol where

[polar flame]

i dont care about it

[polar flame]

here

[kindred oyster]

bad take, peak looter shooter is tarkov though, even with the shit dev team

[elder wharf]

how is this not an admission?

[vapid tangle]

"i believe others are selfish because they aren't hopping on the corporate greed train and slobbering all over our corpo overlords" bait used to be believable

[sonic iron]

I got tagged but it seems either they deleted it or got filtered by the mods

[north stratus]

I’ve been playing Warframe longer than Destiny tbh. It’s light years better than its release 13 years ago

[smoky owl]

This is not actually admitting fault

[spiral dust]

i just want an extraction shooter that doesn’t have a horrible dev team behind it for once

[old oasis]

challenge impossible

[ebon moss]

The art theft is defo bad and I’m unlikely to play marathon but I find it funny how some people joined the server purely to dunk on the game or Destiny and its players

[obsidian plover]

Lolololol

[topaz mountain]

This

[quaint arch]

The movement controller in WF makes me nauseous sadly, it's the only game I get motion sick in

[polar flame]

its started genere but its pooooopppp i play for 800h

[elder wharf]

what you want them to name who did it? If you are you must be joking

[north stratus]

I have almost all the physical Halo books and comics and I have physical Grimoire books for D1

[smoky owl]

Yes?

[tough void]

literally said they used art ingame that was from an artist?

[topaz mountain]

Accountability and respect for designers and the players

[old oasis]

they scapegoated a fake former employee

[sonic iron]

They put it onto a former employee and aren't taking accountability at all, it's also more than a "texture sheet"

[polar flame]

🤓 ☝️

[violet echo]

How long do you think until the discord gets locked because of all this?

[kindred oyster]

arc raiders seems to be the only one. the finals is actually a good game

[elder wharf]

people that want them to dox an employees name are crazy

[smoky owl]

It’s scapegoating

[north stratus]

And you know what? That’s totally understandable

[thick shuttle]

if not for stockholm syndrome and sunk-cost fallacy, bungie wouldn’t still be here… that says a lot of current bungie

[old oasis]

nah it's not that. that former employee doesn't exist.

[obsidian plover]

It didn’t locked yesterday. Prob never.

[topaz mountain]

Simple human principles were overlooked and I believe intentionally so

[keen nymph]

Played in like 2014-2017, gave up after that and no chance of catching up now.

[elder wharf]

whether they exist or not they cant give out their employees names lol

[obsidian plover]

They aren’t reading the chat at this point, guaranteed.

So better to just ignore it.

[smoky owl]

lol so it is just a scapegoat

[keen nymph]

Sadly, that's how humans are.

[topaz mountain]

I'm a 3d character and asset artist and no client no matter how large or small is very thorough and diligent in reviewing the integrity of work

[wraith elk]

This place is cooked

[north stratus]

Honestly just at least look up some of the more recent cutscenes. The story has gotten very interesting since then

[polar flame]

true,i wonder why people sit here and hate on game xD

[violet echo]

My water heater broke yesterday

[old oasis]

no one is saying to give a name. the people that stole the art are still there. one of them on the stream yesterday 🤌

[topaz mountain]

No excuses

[jaunty crystal]

the morale being so low about the game, theres an opportunity to focus on making visible positive changes

[quaint arch]

RIP

[obsidian plover]

Bungie stole your water heater?

[north stratus]

At least look up New War cutscenes. Shit is peak

[topaz comet]

you cant make anything original these days. there arent any new undiscovered artstyles. anything you create has most likely been thought of/drawn already

[velvet fractal]

Lol, ur one of those people that will die on a hill and cry because its not fair, and you didn't deserve it. But will watch a boulder go towards you and stand there while everyone gets tf out. Being an artist is dying, and its the fault of petty artists.

[keen nymph]

I'm sure it has, but I'm so far behind, I'll never catch up.

[tough void]

i feel like the release of this game is gonna flop so hard

[elder wharf]

i forgot that antireal invented art

[smoky owl]

The artstyle is just not the issue

[ebon moss]

The thing is the gunplay in Destiny feels good, only thing that felt this way was titanfall and we know how that’s been treated

[jaunty crystal]

I see a delay

[tough void]

a big one

[velvet fractal]

It will. Expecially because arc raiders exists

[vapid tangle]

"man all these people in front of this train i'm driving don't want to get on the train and continue driving over others, get a load of these guys lol"

[north stratus]

At least Warframe doesn’t vault their content though, so hypothetically you could catch up

[olive matrix]

Legit people are telling the art director to resign, like that's a hell of an overreaction for a uninformed texture sheet

[topaz mountain]

How long before rich white dudes stop using their privilege at the highest levels to steal that which they are unwilling to create

[sonic iron]

I just feel bad about the employees working on marathon that had nothing to do with the lifting, they're being negatively impacted

[polar flame]

arc shitriders loool

[quaint arch]

The weapons and abilities is what keeps me coming back for more Destiny. That and fighting the Hive, easily my favorite faction to fight in a a game

[tall flower]

Where the Hell did this come from?

[elder wharf]

no one has denied some assets were stolen, we are defending against the absurdity that the entire art style was stolen from one person like some people are claiming, but seems 90% of the people here cant make that distinction

[jaunty crystal]

imagine being that artist who copy pasted and probably working in another company atm being sly as hell

[tough void]

why are you bringing race into this?

[smoky owl]

You’re actually just yapping

[topaz mountain]

Bungie's execs are wealthy white men

[robust salmon]

lmao

[thick shuttle]

i’ve moved on to greener pastures

[olive matrix]

dude dont bring race into it

[tall flower]

There a reason you keep mentioning race?

[velvet fractal]

Its more like "guys can you help me remove all this shit instead of eating it? Guys? Meh. I can make money serving shit, rather do that than eat it my self"

[smoky owl]

Won’t someone think of the whites

[topaz mountain]

History has patterns is all

[keen nymph]

I mean to an extent, but you can adapt an art style and make something unique. Yes, it could still be within the scope of a genre, but if you do it well enough it could surprise people enough and feel refreshing.

[polar flame]

trueee ❤️

[old oasis]

it was though. stop the cope

[obsidian plover]

At this point the chat is more upset than the artist in question

[tough void]

bringing race into this is the stupidest shit i have ever seen

[topaz mountain]

Making observations about bungies execs and execs who contribute to the pattern

[smoky owl]

Sure

[grim gazelle]

Everyone keeps throwing around wipeout and f1 and all these other inspirations Bungie supposedly had, and I get it, I agree that they were probably inspired, but that doesn’t change the fact that the version of that aesthetic they arrived at exactly matches this artist they’ve followed for years and stolen directly from. It’s too convenient. The theory I have to believe is Joe or some other heads put together a moodboard predominantly filled with her art that ended up being a cornerstone of the entire game’s design

[elder wharf]

🎣

[sonic iron]

A theme isn't plagiarism but 1:1 textures are

[grim gazelle]

I guess this is just my last thoughts on it. It’s very sad to see

[old oasis]

spinning and doing tricks on it for a billion dollar corp that can't come up with their own assets

[ebon moss]

I find it funny how years ago everyone was calling Curse of Osiris shit and now that bungie is (deservedly )in hot water everyone is acting like curse was worthy of money

[velvet fractal]

Cope or not the game will concord. And i bet the person that stole the art was a concord dev, lol those devs are cursed at this point.

[spiral dust]

i’m a newer fan, but halo 3 was basically my childhood, it’s sad to see the devs and creatives get absolutely screwed over. the post-lightfall layoffs with Michael Salvatori and Lorraine McLees still piss me the hell off, those layoffs were deliberately right before the veterans of the company received their founder’s stock

[keen nymph]

Bringing race into something that has nothing to do with race at all whatsoever is sad.

[topaz mountain]

You don't think it's odd the lack of rep on bungies team or at the executive level of many AAA studios?

[violet tree]

If they didn't just full on steal they could argue for inspiration, but it's pretty clear these thieves had her work all over their idea boards

[smoky owl]

Rich white guys get away with it yet again

[tall flower]

Quit trying to make this a race thing dude

[old oasis]

bingo lol

[tough void]

what does this have to do with their race though?

[keen nymph]

😐

[topaz comet]

would never happen if it was a black dude

[old oasis]

literally lifted her art and ctrl v'd it

[velvet fractal]

Lol this chat lost the plot

[stiff mist]

Crazy how none of this shit happened at Bungie when Microsoft and even Activision owned them

[digital widget]

Tell that to OJ.

[elder wharf]

antireals art style is not unique and has existed for decades, probably well before a lot of people in this server were born

[sonic iron]

It did

[jaunty crystal]

theft assets aside, I appreciate the transparency but man its kinda odd the team tells us they still brainstorming for things like proxy and solo gaming this late in the dev cycle

[old oasis]

false lol. d1 they were lifting assets too

[smoky owl]

They’d get the benefit of the doubt if they hadn’t done this on at least 4 occasions

[obsidian plover]

Crazy that you are making such connections

[ebon moss]

Oh no they had definitely been in a lot of hot water in the Activision days

[tough void]

people trying so hard to make this about race and not plagiarism LMAO

[stiff mist]

Oh I know but not to this level of trainwreck, it's probably like a 10 in terms of disaster level

[violet tree]

Their take on the art style is and it's good enough to just flat out steal. The art team on marathon are thieves and nothing else

[tall flower]

Halo 4 was Bungie right or was that 343’s first Halo game?

[old oasis]

it's bungie company culture to take other people's designs. it's happened 5 times that we know of. how many more that we don't

[north stratus]

I’m scared to try and make it in this industry. I just wanna compose video game music and have people enjoy it. Almost have my Masters Degree in Music Composition and seeing shit like this has me terrified for the future

[tall cloud]

without even lifting a finger rich people have everyone else infighting over race. again.
they have played us for absolute fools.

[sonic iron]

They did it more during Activision days because of how strict and awful they were as a publisher

[smoky owl]

They’re just noticing a pattern

[keen nymph]

It's not about race. This situation is just shitty people doing shitty things. Stealing is a human trait.

[topaz mountain]

Yeah I'm not trying to speak in absolutes

[tall flower]

I view it like this: someone’s gotta get in there and stamp down some sense into the industry once again

[autumn gyro]

Yeah for sure. Not glazing bungie - I was quick to jump to conclusions and immediately donated $$ to fern but taking a step back I think this is getting overblown. Antireal will get a bag and/or a job, they will audit all design assets, and honestly word idk what else you could do. Yes it is whack that it happened and speaks to the detriments of corporate culture influencing gaming, but damn yo… Joseph Cross has art with this style from over a decade ago. All of this art style is inspired by early Aught’s design. Fr, I genuinely loved the alpha and think there’s so much potential for the game and I wanna see it get balanced, more accessible, and more fun. They just need to add prox chat lol

[velvet fractal]

Its crazy that you can't understand the concept of contaminating the water. Yes the art might as well be original but the part stolen stained all of it. Why? Because this is the 4th time they do this shit. Wake up

[elder wharf]

antireal stole from this guy then huh, cause its almost exactly the same and older?

[topaz mountain]

Just bringing attention to the trends that I feel are important to take into account when supporting companies

[tropic oak]

its ok guys because of gai gaiders i just bought 20 of my friends all the dlc for destiny

[north stratus]

I’ll do what I can 🫡

[smoky owl]

4 times

[tall flower]

I’m planning to enter the industry too

[sonic iron]

At least when I did plagiarism I was a 8 or 9 year old copying a short story 1:1 for schoolwork and not a grown ass man
(8 or 9 year olds couldn't write that well so I got caught instantly) 😂

[polar flame]

bro they too stupid to understand that 😩

[tough void]

dont try join bungie at the moment man!

[violet tree]

No she was actually inspired. She made art LIKE that and didn't steal anything

[north stratus]

Godspeed

[tall flower]

Fortunately, IS is a very malleable and flexible major

[tall cloud]

this entire chat 🤡

[ebon moss]

https://tenor.com/view/marathon-nucaloric-lebron-james-gif-862282639964370750

[polar flame]

marathon haters - 🤡

[elder wharf]

do 3-4 stolen assets make up an entire art style?

[violet echo]

Bro one of the mods is deleting the shitposts 💀

[thick shuttle]

men are kids but everything just scaled up with them, including responsibility and accountability

[tough void]

dont have to like the game man

[smoky owl]

Certainly shows a precedent

[tough void]

adds up

[north stratus]

Fair. I’m just a simple musician lol

[stiff mist]

Them firing Salvatori hurts dawg, man deserved better

[smoky owl]

The mods are lame people paid off by a lame company

[tall flower]

You could make the argument that the very idea of Bungie using that artstyle was off of the assets they stole

[old oasis]

so true

[keen nymph]

We're all just big kids in an adult world.

[smoky owl]

It’s okay they’ll just plagiarize him too

[elder wharf]

but this art style has existed for decades

[tough void]

im sure they'll be extra careful to keep doing it

[zenith merlin]

https://x.com/KurppaHosk this is the company who was hired to do the art style for marathon, and they have been doing this style for more then 20 years. so yes, bungie stole some posters. no, they did not steal a "style"

[violet echo]

Can I get thoughts on what I should order for lunch?

[tall flower]

Read what I said again. Them using this artstyle, which is not owned by anti real, was still done in inspiration by Antireal’s work