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If you're lucky you might still be able to get the free Ikora
No more draws?
Man i should start upgrading wolf for the new campaign
What about my 50k lumia and 150 summons im hoarding \
what if we get a new wolf tho
T0 is achivable with daily grind
Draws still exist but you will be able to grind one copy of each character for free
Well thats ok for me
Wouldnt our current wolf be the only to play the campaign
U can still use lumia for t1 and more tho
Are you sure about that?
probably i'm just speculating
What I got from the blog post is that you can grind one copy of the new character and at the end of the season if you finish certain objectives you'll be able to claim another copy of any character you want
that is correct
Nit 100% we have to see the full s4 reveal on th 21st
Atp we all speculating lol
i can finally get maru just to use her as a lighlink for my hairkora lol
Before ikora i would def pull for maru not anymire tho
I still didnt get my pity from jaren banner i was 10 off of a mythic and i lost it because of the free banners
lol, gotta get T6 for best performance
7 days till she goes t6
Same, I was 5 pulls away from pity. It doesn't seem like Efrideet will have a special banner so you'll probably get that pity back
@rotund raptor I get Ikora T6 next week as well
we all waiting ahah
Iām officially a Cookie
I'm only T3 
Nicee
Will new character be available to get day 1 I wonder?
If efrideet is good, I might T6 her im a sucker for characters with spears
Probably not, it seems like you have to grind for the fragments. Unless you pull for them it'll probably take 1-2 weeks to get them
It says we will get the new character the moment we login
You can pull for them day 1 and also grind for a free copy
"Wolves do not beg for scraps, and they certainly do not "pull" for what should be theirs by right of wish. Every Lightbearer who enters the game in Season 4 shall receive the new Character at no cost of silver nor charms. A wish freely asked is a wish freely given."

Same, but honestly that seems like the perfect place to stop. She's already very strong at that talent lv
Nah
Any good and active pack that would welcome a 3days old really active player? š
Hahaha yeah when I start a game I like, I grind it and having a good clan usually helps
This does not say they receive it instantly āat no cost of silver or charmsā is the big part here. This just says every player can get the new units without spending. They can still make it that you need to complete some event/quest to obtain them.
I didn't find any channel like that that's why I sent a message here
Its wolf pack recruiting
Awesome thank you !
It's under looking for group.
One must search for what they want
I thought wolf pack was something else, not familiar with the game terms yet :')
Which character is best to play
almost always whatever mythic character is in the limited banner
Can u show which one. I m new
except for of course satoru helhest
Can u show
Ikora the Hidden currently but that's going to change in a week because there's a new season
from the permanent list of characters Ning fei is probably the strongest
Can u show a pic of the character
Btw does current pity count for the next banner? Or it resets?
This banner is a special banner so pity resets
Is there another character like this I see similar one
what ryoiki said + they're changing the draws system next season so we'll always get 1 copy of the new mythic character
there's two ikoras, one with hair and one without. The one with hair is stronger
The hair makes her stronger
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Well the draw system remains the same. We can still draw for a character. Itās just we can complete activities to get 1 copy for free.
āPlayers can now earn character Fragments through various in-game activities. Collecting 40 Fragments allows you to directly assemble the Character.ā
Another one is with cancer?
It also looks like you can assemble past characters too.
No she lives i hot country
Like Africa
I see good to know, and is it better to get each banner character or stack up on pulls and get the same one over and over again to upgrade it?
Have solo wolf dens been announced yet?
What about wolf?
You won't see that till the sun explodes
With the new system allowing us to get at least T0 for free saving up to T6 might be the most advantageous long run. We donāt know what all the new system entitles tho for draws vs fragments tho
Yh right on the sahara dessert
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Then I will keep making packs and unnecessarily inflate the pack population
prob get a trailer or video of stuff tomorrow/over the weekend
Saturday
I don't even think that is possible
Packs get deleted if you don't actively farm resources
I mean that a pack led by me doesnāt need to exist, but it will anyway.
That will take ages
This worth it?
Yes
Ooh I didnāt get lucky for the s4 exotic yet. But I got a photon today
Can i get photon if i get this?
Early access to s4 exotics day1
you think it'll be a random decryption?
Maybe
How long this game was released?
6 months ago for the open beta
Same for pc?
66 exotic pieces tho
Iāve done it before. Only reason my pack was dismantled was because of the garbage pack system we currently have.
it's not officially on PC, only through mobile emulators
Its making me reconsider it lol
the current onslaught engrams are 80
So u guys now at max lvl in 6 months how
Like⦠Some people became inactive. I had health issues and had to take a break for less than a week.
Grinding
Oh yea u right
I was thinkingbof the 40 pieces ones
Specific character grind or all
Gachas are basically centered around building up two or three specific characters
More than that is tailored toward the whales
"Paragon board gems" oh netease
Efrideet having a staff makes me wonder if her super is going to be Gathering storm assuming she is indeed going to be arc
Didnt get any photon f
it does kinda look like a weather vane xD
I can see why they wanted to change the artifact system
I sure hope it adds more build crafting
Do we have a date on new raid? I need to see about taking it off work
Just early April. My guess is Easter weeeknd but no confirmation yet
Early April but no date yet
I wonder if they're gonna timegate us for the new levels like they did on launch
The new paragon system, seems like it might replace the seasonal artifact
Something useful that we don't know about
im glad operation cordon was actually beta test operation cordon
Btw anyone got exotic engram and photon
and we get to do it in the leviathan instead of the pit, what an upgrade
Cuz im thi king u can get only pne kf the. Per day
photon is the 1 high value trade per day, engram probably is too
photons prob still better than a new engram
7 photons to max an exotic, over time you'll probably get more exotics than you know what to do with
With the pinnacle changes engrams might be more valuable
wow they were spot on
Yoo wait! What happens to our pulls and Leavs??
They are still there
Nothing will happen to them
I thought someone said they getting rid of drawing system 
Pple be spreading misinformation lol
Too much
They don't bother reading
Bruh just woke up and got trolled š„²
I swear pple are gona spend their leaves only to realize come new season they got lied to
They still did not said what will happen to our pinnacle and bouts :>
They can only blame themselves
Someone figured out all the deals we can get from Pandora yet?
You can still pull for talents
https://www.playdestinyrising.com/news/20260319/41118_1292009.html "Fragments".
"In Season 4, we are moving away from a pure draw-based model to a Character Fragment-drive progression system."
Im just wajring fkr 21st before spending all my pinnacle
I have like 25 days in mail
Please read the whole sentence fully
Sorry, but there's no information about talents or bouts, so dunno what do you mean :>
U can get t0 with daily grind
And t1 and above with draws with leaves
It does seem to be going in the right direction
Too little too late
Hopefully character frags drops in content so thereās a medium term chase.
And weapon customisation is better for buildcrafting
We are moving away from a pure draw based system...
(emphasis mine) They'll still have draws, you'll just be able to directly earn character fragments as well
And getting rid of gacha hopefully means they are less restricted in balancing and progression.
We are not beating the can't read allegations
Nah donāt worry. Let them not read and proceed to spend their leaves
I mean, it sounds like you can either grind or pull for a character
earn the first copy
Grind for the free copy or pull if u donāt want to grind. Basically how kabr/ikora 2.0 are
They should do smth abour the bp weapons too
I kind of hope itās not just the first copy cos thatād be kind of lame
I mean, what would be the point in leaves then
What u want them to give multiple copies for free?
if we don't have to spend so much BM tokens on photons maybe it'll make purchasing eggs easier
you get free first copy of new character then a copy at end of season for whoever
It sounds like you can directly earn parts of characters (shards) from some places instead of chances of characters (Lumia) but they'll still have draws for characters
Well still they would need to make it so we cang get bm coina in activities too
Pull to skip grind, cosmetic gacha etc
T6 characters obv
Team lv 90 gear lv 90
i hope she has a sniper like in the lore
Well yeah, let us grind them. I thought the point was that they need to make some drastic changes cos the game isnāt working at all as a gacha
The game isnāt working in terms of pple collecting t0 characters
I swear we canāt read!!!!!!
And tbh, idk what their plans are cos they basically tested a first copy for free and then pull the rest system with Kabr and ikora and it made like no money
I mean the player count is low as of now which is the lack of rvents and no bundles or anything for whales to whale on. But Iām sure the fact they are doing this means they have an internal metric based on player numbers that prove it works
netease needs people to install the game and want to play it before they care about how much money they milk out of each player tbh
Gotta get players to make some money
netease is well aware giving out things for free doesnt print money
Character fragments in acitivities and Pinnacle energy going out was all i needed to hear, so expecting T6 at the minimum in like atleast end of the year
warframe parts craft your saladin t6
We have as many events as we always did though, and they made a raid, a new TD mode, some new event types like corden etc and still no ones coming
hiya!
The low player numbers is gonna take a lot more changes than what they listed out to address
they changed Expanse to accomodate 4 weapon types
good change imo
2x the 2x rewards
I think the changes they made are good starts, but they need to do a lot more
its marketing driven, nobodys promoted this game from netease since like october when they more or less explicitly made a post saying they viewed the game as inherently bad
The only difference is that instead of giving us ships, you get one copy. This is bc ppl like me got t6 hairkora for $60. I got like t3 from the 60 they gave. Itās to prevent losses.
they didnt even hype crota when it launched they put it on the calendar as like 'fan loved 6 player activity'
With these character fragments, can I finally get Gwynn??
looking bright, only time will tell if they double down or end the game
it seems like the end of season fragments might let you get old characters
Like, the core issue with lack of loot chases and just not much reward space in general isnāt really addressed it seems
Hopefully the new weapon system overhaul does something about that
We dont know if Fragments from acitivity mean current character talents or Season Activity Fragments = New Character acquisition
i hope we get more info on 21st
Tbh I donāt think gacha as a business model works at all for looter shooters
omg wait is this for next season?
Seems to be general fragments that can be exchanged for choice characters
Wow, if it's only for the new characters, I'm not even going to bother trying to level up talents.
its probably instead of 360 fortuna crystals for ning fei its like 10 for 1 ning fei fragment and theres probably wildcard fragments
It takes way too much away from customisation and loot space
i played in summer and now im just getting back into it
im missing so many characters haha
id like to invest 2 chances at redeeming characters to be choice, but only time will tell
and you prob get enough wildcard fragments by the end of the season to just make whatever
Like you canāt really create much depth in customisation when you have to make a new character every month
I think this will just double down new character creation
I mean no once says you have to build a new character every month. I skipped Gwynn, Estella and Maru
cause people who want t6 hh will still spend next 6 character redeems on HH
and people who want to do favourites will still do favourites
and then people still get a chance to get a new character and work on them as well
What Iām saying is that thr devs simply canāt create a deep customisation system when they have to pump out characters that fast
bro you want deep customization hit up infinity nikki
The Fragment System: Players can now earn character Fragments through various in-game activities. Collecting 40 Fragments allows you to directly assemble the Character.
Season Milestone Reward: To honor our most dedicated players, completing all core seasonal objectives will award 40 Fragments at the end of the season, which can be exchanged for a character of your choice
From the dev blog
By customisation I mean like, build customisation
And what Iām saying is you donāt know that yet. They just announced a new overhaul to weapons and artifacts and your basically complaining without haven seen what changes they have made yet
build customization is completely hindered right now by pinnacle energy
What gacha game has deep buildcrafting?
artifacts guns and relic upgrades share one source
Theyāre all shallow as a puddle
i mean tbf, theres something on weapons/relics together with paragon on Artifacts. I think we could finally see CD reduction or DOT type effects
pinnacle makes you never want to swap your artifacts, never want to swap your guns, and not invest in alternate exotics
tbf half of the weapons are mid in the first place
due to terrible catalysts and artifact perks are somewhat dead stat as well
you can spend to experiment but never recover
My pinnacle has been sitting at 360 for like a week now.
That isnāt the issue. There is nothing to swap
what do you mean theres nothing to swap
Like every 3/4 slot just gives X damage buff for doing Y, with Y made for a certain characterās kit
And most characters have 1 or maybe 2 weapon choices thatās anywhere near ideal for them
liiiiike efrideetās spear? :)
Yes, we need more perks, more ways to build your character
Bruh they give you free copy so you can have all char in the future for free⦠if you want more copies you gotta spend
so its the same as before
I mean, I did a lot of experimenting. Like built a octant builf for Jaren
It just doesnāt work.
Just gotta grind for the copy
bro i cant even experiment with xuan wei right now because id have to give up 2 weeks of pinnacle to upgrade jotunn
Wait what, its so fire on him
It's better to wait and see what they show at the reveal than to complain about something that isn't even in the game yet
it probably is, but we donāt know
we already grind lumia for the copy
Runs out of ammo too fast in anything but CO for a start
That's what HH is for
Itās only good for if you want to use him on spread just because
HH rising
i wonder if its worth it for me to upgrade heir apparent but do i want to spend 2 weeks of pinnacle to find out, absolutely not
but anyway, who else is actually excited after seeing the in game season 4 preview? š
Burst potential is there indeed. Just that he doesnt get Heavy ammo that fast xd
Yeah, ie, anything but CO
Exactly, no imagine if we had artefact sets or gear slots that helped with ammo economy ā¦
either way id rather just have both built and it not take 2 weeks per exotic to upgrade it
Breaking the game without using t6 HH? what are you waffling about /s
we can farm unlimited piss bottle next season anyway
Clearly means we need helmith from warframe
The paragon system will apparently use gems
Assuming the rewards stay the same and you can finish an LC in 3 minutes it'll take like 5 hours to grind enough cores to max out an exotic
i already got some!
from the barter thing
i expect drops to go down %wise but thats totally fine
But yeah imo pinnacle isnāt the issue with buildcrafting. There is no buildcrafting
Next season will likely give us that
Well the concept of locking characters down to have so few primaries is gonna lead to true build customization being impossible. Poor xuan Wei
if you view each character as needing a build youll never be satisfied in this game
nah its just another insert this material to increase power on top of everything
Man just needs to play a diff game. This game not for em
Iām hoping, but not expecting
We used to
the point is the character swap is the gameplay change
Imagine if HH had access to spread or RF tho
We did?
Lmao how to make HH more busted
imagine if every character could use every weapon and we all just played helhest that'd be so cool
Yep
Time for explosive bows
When?
tbf i continuously look at new artifacts & see if I can change pieces on older characters. Already Rebuilt Attal, Estella and Maru doing that
During the alpha
Thanks gachaā¦
yea i like want to do that but i dont because ive sent all my pinnacle into exotic weapons instead
hoping I can start looking at newer artifacts for older characters if the grinding is better for them
ill get a lot more mileage out of each character build-crafting without treating pinnacle as this thing i need to ration minmax
Some positive attributes (magazine capacity increased mag size up to 50% iirc, ammo supply increased reserve size and ammo from brick drops) and a negative set effect
those are locked to the 6 star exotic characters
cade-6 ā ā ā ā ā ā swipe swipe
Monkey's paw: Grinding artifacts becomes easier but artifacts can't be shared between characters anymore
If they implement the paragon system correctly, then we can truly have build crafting
would this be same as paragon system?
if we get the menagerie in rising before d2 that'd be wild
The paragon system just sounds like an extra seasonal artifact, I wouldn't expect too much
thats fine ig, a small cost to pay for salvation
No clue about paragon system
Scouts and hc at the very least. Failing to do so tells the player netease cannot balance the game (before matchmaking). Was initially why I almost quit
We'll find out more with the full reveal
Each character wants a new set anyways
There's not really a way to fairly balance characters across multiple weapon types without making kits incredibly bland
overwatch would have been a sick game if tracer could equip pharah rockets
and winston had a shotgun
It looks like it got 3 slots to start with
wait and see seasonal gilding system
I can just rely on my aim and not worry about the 1000 things to read? Thatās a good thing.
you want to play quake
Sorry no
This is Destiny, buildcrafting is fundamental
If you just want to focus on your aim there are plenty of other shooter games
Offense, defense, support
I can see it being a talent tree for each character type
Not awake enough. Not what I meant
weapon restrictions are why this game has any chance of success when releasing more characters
It's probably gonna be like the fishing talent tree where you only get a certain amount of points and have to choose which upgrades you want to have
Literally. If there were no weapons restrictions why would I pull
Itās also part of why this game isnāt popular with Destiny fans
I don't think so, I think it's going to use gems and some kind of leveling process
And why thereās so little players
destiny fans want to play destiny they want to equip mint retrograde and play the same prismatic build in the entire game and never die or do anything
How does that invalidate what I said?
Mobile game bud
I think daily limit is more a reason
Not PC not Console⦠Mobile
d2 stopped functioning when the weapons stopped mattering and the weapons stopped mattering as soon as 1 build was clearly best and 1 gun was clearly best
I mean, we ended up with just running HH in everything
1 helhest that can only use 2 guns
Yeah so why not make her more busted I guess right /s
But not 3/6 HH for every activity
not 3 helhests using all 3 weapon types and elements
Mans waffling
and raiding would suck in this game
if every boss was 1 well 5 helhest + bis weapon of the month
If this wasnāt a gacha theyād have nerfed her lol
Well you said it lol itself gacha
But itās a gacha. Your point beingā¦.
Exactly...
Arc Primary.
Heavy. Exotic: Solar & Arc.
Legendary. ARC
now it devolved from 'i want buildcrafting' to 'i want this to be d2' to 'i want this to not be a gacha'
Games overly dependent on heavy/abilites for a lot of content.
Would have been better if it wasnāt a gacha and more like mainline Destiny
Tellin u man is waffling
Broski! Tell bungie to go and make D3
destiny 1/2 are still playable
Iāve said I wanted gacha gone from the start l
let this be its own game
That's because primaries are weak
yea but im saying thats like me telling this discord im mad they wont discuss marathon lore in here with me
Because those are roles and it shouldn't be following that
Agreed on heavy but not abilities
Ngl you on some weird sh
This looks cool !!
Nah it's bc there's too much heavy ammo
you think we talk to the calus head or walk into its mouth
NetEase themselves clearly want to make drastic changes cos DR is kind of dying
its got like aladdin cave vibe with the lion skull
DRās current systems as āits own gameā just isnāt working
What u tryna do in its mouth šš
Well ez bro. Move on to D2⦠you donāt wanna play gacha anyways
bro d2 has less players than bloons td right now, there will be like 50x the amount of ppl in rising than d2 during this new raid i guarantee it
OH!... That never accred to me...!!! š 
The combo of heavy and abilities at the same time was what I meant, again, 1% awake
Given how big mobile gaming is that itās clearly not the issue
Itās soo ez for people to move on to different game but they just have to gaslight cuz their D2 is dead⦠well
Why not? Each role would get a talent tree that's tailored to their particular play style, if you dump all the buffs together then offense characters (and Helhest) would end up benefiting the most
but how long will the game be able to keep 50x amount of players
And then gone in 2 days like crota?
thats on how good these changes are who knows
complaining about them before theyre out though is a choice for sure
DUDE... If people Make BIG changes... Because THEY WANT TO!... You're one person
who just got me muted? dont be shy.
Pple who complain without haven tried or seen what the new changes are even gonna be blow my mind for real
Do you even understand the capacity of a mobile game? They canāt just implement the mind set of urs from a get go⦠use the brain broski
Well, people kind of have. Which is why we have such a low playerbase
Itās not like Genshin or something where people whine about hoyo every patch but still plays
And they will be back lol. Destiny crack addicts alwyas return
Itās been 6 monthsā¦
yea i mean if youre in here asking for d3 you more or less have accepted youll log into anything
You still here though š¤£
I donāt think theyāre coming back lol
Gaslight WHAT?...
which is every d2 player who will come back for a new raid
Kind of? I play a bit every season but not really long
We still here lmao.. if they do they do if they donāt it is what it is
Just waiting for s4 and seeing what changes they make
End of August to March...
8, 9, 10, 11, 12.
1, 2, 3
D2 mentality lmao oh this game sucks cuz is not like D2⦠š¤£
well i also think d2 players didnt rly get excited for phone crota tbh
crotas been rereleased like 5x by now
phone crota was actually a banger tho
d2 players have a hard on for ahamkara and new raids
For a phone crota it was a good raid
They like barely even marketed crota release. Threw it on calender and called it a day lol
yea it was good i just mean it doesnt make people say omg i need to try rising
and they def did not market it as a spectacle
That's the offensive characters job tho (ignoring helhest)
HH is Gojo of rising
They did get excited. We had a lot of people on raid weekend.
And then they just all left
Because outside of the raid this game was dead. Which is what everyone agreed with. Now they are making changes for it
They never planned to market this game as much! They just threw this out there and wanted to see how will do⦠surprisingly did well lol Netease doesnāt need money⦠but if they want to they can do plenty.. S4 is just a small step of all that
Personally, I think the issue is that, gacha gamers arenāt interested in not waifu bait, and destiny players arenāt interested in a game with so little buildcrafting or loot chasing
So DR kind of stuck in a middle ground where it caters to no one
You're missing the point, if they make the talent trees be tied to each role then they can make stronger buffs for roles that need it (defense) while avoiding making others too strong (support aka Helhest)
Like I said, good start but I was hoping for much more
You are basically impatient and havenāt even seen what the start is yet lol
Hi, I am kinda new to the game. I wanna ask if Finnala and 5star Kabyr are good or not? The game keeps giving me Finnala that she is already T4 and the only 5 stars I got from draws were both Kabyrs.
Like you havenāt even played the āgood startā
Are we getting paragon board like Diablo 4?
You can call me whatever you want but the truth is S4 is gonna be make or break lol
Kabr is decent though not exactly meta, Finnala is bad
thats not a hot take though lol
They got one chance at getting people back
And everyone knows that. Netease knows that lol
Wafflingggggg
See thatās the thing. I question if they care
They have not cared so far
Are you always negative
theres no way this guys real. are the gems in the first row of trades?
People will comeback to check out the content
what characters are good rn? I saw umeko and attal on a video...
About this game? Yeah, cos what is there to be positive about since S2 to now lol
If you are always negative. Give gaming a break
But then they quit. I think we need really big changes to loot chasing and buildcrafting to engage players
Mostly playing WWM atm, which is absolutely peak so
That's coming with s4
nobody will play the game guys we're all just cogs in a wheel crashing into the wall of my personal opinion thats based on nothing. log out
Doesnāt really seem like with what theyāve listed though.
Brotha saw overhaul in weapons and artifacts and is saying doesnāt seem like thatās happening in s4???? We canāt readdddddd
is there a site or something that I can look up for what character is good and what loot to chase for?
if youre new enough that you want a guide id suggest saving your cores and mod upgrade materials and just picking a few characters you enjoy playing
Well anyways, Iām off, will check out what S4 is like when it launches and see if Iām right or wrong
cause next week everything is like redecided in terms of whats good and not
They can make a good game if they try. WWM is excellent. Just depends on if they care
I liked umeko but the game gave me finnala so much that she is t4 so just wanna know in case...
You mean you will login to the game and complain
Old builds can crumble like dust where the new ones will rise
Havenāt played like since they first did LC GMs
umekos a safe character to play since her kits raid mandatory
Absolutely. Iāll glaze WWM all day
Most fun Iāve had in a mmo-ish game since GW2
finalas pretty fun but id avoid pretty much all the other 4 star characters except maybe wolf
Wolf baby cakes
I got 2 5 stars from draws and both were kabyr so I suppose I need someone else...
did you get your free ikora
the 4 star one? yes
I have only seen the game press article. From what Iāve read, this news is vauge and yall goin right back to fighting each other over it.
no the 5 star one from the event
no
I got my pop corn ready
still need 14 more draws
Check the blog post from their website
ikora and kabr are good to invest in right now the 5 stars
you can level up a scout rifle and use it on umeko too which is good but the next character thats also free will probably be solar and youll have a 5 star void solar and arc character ready which is good
oh alright. rn my main 3 is wolf umeko and attal so I can do that. Thanks a lot.
Endless expanse.. hmmmm
maybe reward %s get better the deeper you get š
Probably for both the paragons and artifacts
I did 112 blue draws till now and I only got finnala :( (except for unlocking other 4 stars)
I double down on what I said.
yea just focus on new ikora and 5 star kabr for now and you can clear all the content in the game currently
With influx of possibly new players. There should be a subchat called ānew lightā me thinks for them to ask questions
Thanks for the suggestion, I just made it
Check it out #āānew-lights-š°š
thank you a lot again. one last question: should I reset Attal's relic to upgrade 5star Kabyr?
alright, thanks.
i prefer new light questions to dooming anyway
i need more people in here to tell me the games EoS because its not d3
Manz playing the long game lol
in 5 years when its actuall eos they'll say they knew it all along
man they never even use the mentor channel they're not gonna do it here either lol
Please no don't encourage them š
So the question is.. are draws completely being removed?
no
doubtful
what does eos mean?
End of service
Today last tweet right?
Lots of doomers think it's coming soon but it doesn't look like it
supposed to be yesterday but nothing happened
whats gonna happen to lumia leaves ?
When it comes to destiny anything talking about it shutting down will do the opposite
or i guess maybe the post on the website is the message?
Most likely will still exist. More info coming on the 21st
Nothing
Well, to me as a newlight to rising, I played destiny 2 for 7k hours since season of the undying and can easily say rising (compared to d2 right now) is SO MUCH better.
likely still used for draws in order to raise a character's talent level
I would be sad if it got taken down
Would be a long time before we see that happening
netease has to play the long game with us, soon we're gonna be paying 150$ to fill up our gas tanks so we cant be buying pulls
Who knows lmao thatās what I complained bout. There are a bunch of anti doom posters in her that have been attacking ppl for being confused. If you even suggest changes they lash out. Been like this since the tweets started, Iām just gonna stay outa here til it dies down, bc ur not allowed to have an opinion.
Eos isnt coming at least for 2 other years ig
i at least need a pc client before they decide to eos
What im exited for is getting gwyn estela and hh
Eos isn't coming if the game keeps getting more players and money
we just need like 5 good whales and we're set
Ofc im talking for the worst case scenario
From what I saw, the newlight experience ain't that bad, I was amazed even at some parts. And it is very easy to get into if you played genshin too so I think eos won't come anytime soon if everyone new thinks like me.
They are even making it easier for new lights with the s4
the 21st is full reveal? so tomorrow a post or a trailer ideally
we really were in an open beta lol
yea
Yes 21st is full reveal
for me my only problem is I literally can't play enough, pinnacle and wait times are killing me
pinnacle removal is a plus for me and hopefully that'll keep people playing more often during the day thus reducing wait time
are they removing the energy system (pinnacle)?
I used to grind the 1% exotic drops from strikes until queue times became abysmal and i got quite a few
it doesnt look liketheyre replacing it with anything either which is wild
Let the grind truly begin
but it could just be daily bonus rewards in the playlists
U mean converting?
i mean whats the new gate or is there actually none
i'm still hesitant to praise netease until they reveal anything about drop rates
My only wish for this game is to get a direct pc download rather than emulator. Is there any chance for that?
I mean drop rates cant be worse than what they are
No promises
unknown really, I think it's just bungie trying to prevent D2 from losing players since they hold the PC/Console area
1.5% photons can become 0.5%.
MuMu has really good MnK support so there's gotta be something going on in the background prepared for PC
.5% without energy is still probably less annoying than 1.5% with
if you want to make your eyes bleed you can at least
I would die from happiness if they added pc download
i wonder if we ever get a marketplace
sell your photons for silver š
let the whales fund my brainrot
A single photon will probably cost around 1.5k silver
you can literally buy black market tokens for less than that
its just 200 silver per photon on black market
Imma crash the trading market if they made it tradeable š
Give us weekend xur who sells prerolled exotic mods
we need to kill the drifter and make our own prices
There was a time, a very dark time in DR where we had similar drop odds as now for the first run of an activity, but they got worse the more times you ran it
NO
youd be RICH
how bad did you guys mess up the alpha/beta lol
Loot goblins should not be allowed to set their own prices
Whales bought everything cheap the first few weeks and it drove up the prices for when f2ps finally got enough coins
thats generally not sustainable
happens every expac in wow but you cant grind everything you need in wow so you almost need the auction house
if the whales want to rip 100k to buy out all the photons to resell them we can guarantee its not eos for another month at LEAST
but fixed price of pulls i think will keep most stuff grounded
im mostly meming i just think its cool when you can make up for swiping with mindless grinding
oop well there's the twitter post
Lol
guess njorun just took a nap yesterday
Another wish season like from d2 Damm that season was legit fire and this one will be even better lool š
Whatās photon
A marvel character
the rarest currency in the game that when you see one drop in your legendary campaigns you count your blessings and buy lottery tickets
1 of them materials huh
You get 1 in a million play throughs
i got one three days in a row lol
Is it a RNG thing
extremely rare drop from legendary campaign, only when spending pinnacle
Oh ok. Is it for the Exotic weapons
yeah it's used to get the 2nd catalyst level and other upgrades
you need 7 to max out an exotic
Got you sorry about all the questions i do apologise
They find ways to keep you busy I like that
Oh lawd they increase level to 90
No more draws?
i don't mind, rather you learn about the game and keep playing than be confused and quit
New seasonal system and new character progression system.
Weapon & Gear System Rework: A total overhaul integrating the Relic system with a new modular Weapon System for deeper strategic customization.
huh
likely just for t0
You can still draw for the characters
They missed in N in launches š
It says fragment system
Whole new changes but why
Season of Wishes
Needed changes
I have lot of wishes
It literally says we are moving away from a pure based draw system
Season of Wishing AI brings better systems
The word PURE
You can still pull for the character
Yes to the newly made fragment system
Or pull for them
So they confirmed theres no pinnacles. THEN WHATS GONNA HAPPEN TO IRON COMMAND?!
Everyone gets the character for free
Yh all LE are converted to glimmer you right
we still dont have confirmation whether fragment system will be sole acquisiton system for character + copies or its just one time character acquisition and then any further talents are through leaves
Maybe just so many free per day?
Probably get 3 authorization tokens per day now instead of spending the energy to get them
i hope it becomes extra (when i sleep) it farms artifacts for me system
They better keep that, because afk farming at its finest.
T0
This all sounds pretty good. Except probably not getting double pulls from chests. Which will be lame.
Hope they just make it default to the double drop rate.
Everyone gets a copy of a hero free
Yes
So that no oneās bottle necked out of content
Thru the fragments
Itās to create access for all thatās simple
Which are definitely going to be put on something that came straight out of hell itself
New players donāt have a hero pool really to play with
new players will still be mad about missing characters
they will get 40 fragments on season end to get whatever character they want
ya us new players need more free stuff. hard out here
they can just make a draw event for fragments and let you buy whatever old char with them
seems easy enough anyway
Yeah I read that , but they can just put a limited amount in , do you really think they will give us any character?
they specifically said choice, if i am not wrong
yea its any char according to their post
Any character thatās currently out ?
free fortuna shop item probably
Any character
they do all seasonal activities then they can choose any character they want on season end that will give out 40 fragments
we had that box in the bundles that let you pick gwynn pretty sure it kept updating
forgot how awesome this game is
this "seasonal activities" pool is different from any fragment gains happening while you play the game
Nah itās eos /s
thats why
.
Special fragments and regular fragments
Plus it also says we have to wait until end of season to use the fragments for character selection
and till 21st March happens, we can only speculate and disappoint ourselves
The special ones
yeah those are choice, thats probably why end of season
its so cool
not as valuable to regular ones that u can use for talents on your existing characters maybe
NGL... I actually really like the idea of the new character system
the end of the season one is different from the efrideet one i think
because the fact i can just grind for a specific char rather than rely on FOMO-based gacha drops is just better to me
They can pretty much do whatever they want since this is the lore maker š¤£
yes bro so true
Njorun
nyan cat
But i'm also a monster hunter fan, I'm used to grinding days for 1% drop chance gem where the only thing stopping me is my own time and dedication
He can rewrite the timeline
I do hope the old characters are added to the loot pool tho
does anyone know how to do the liking statuses triumph
I really want Estela, even if she's not meta i like her kit from what i've been able to play thanks to the character borrow mechanic
they will be from the end of season fragments
Sheās so fun to play
its at the bottom of the profile ghost its like Activity or something
you just spam thumbs up on the screen
finally, a real reason to play the battle pass bs
Everyone better pull for helhest and if they donāt I donāt want to hear complaining later
i need HH
also is this official word or just an assumption?
official
gotcha!
mostly assumed from official
A little sad to have to clear the entire battle pass to earn one old character
They said it themselves on their website
what is actually is assumption if we get owned character talent from fragments by just playing the game while season is going on
which i bet means i wont be able to upgrade their talent tree
gachas that do the fragment thing usually tie them to events and calendars/log in stuff
I think thatās how itās going to be
log in everyday for 1 fragment, do this event for 1-2 fragments then every couple weeks you get a free copy essentially
but idk how theyll do it here
no its not battle pass, its seasonal acitivities that u need to do. something like playing Shadowshaper, Shifting Gates or doing x number of strikes and gauntlets. Battlepass has nothing to do with it
I assume the fragmets will be character-specific
Also sounds like hero balances
Can we buy I wonder? $ š«
Maybe the battle pass will give you extra ones
I knew it was around weapons
Most heroes are great itās the weapons the rely on
And some weapons were way over tuned than others
worst system ever if they make it like that. I rather not open battlepass at all cause i find it cringe
maybe itll be like warframe. HELHEST FRAGMENTS DROPPING IN CROTA TODAY - suddenly everyone plays crota
So this is a great thing
Well do we know them for good systems š
Maybe the starting S4 requires more skill and builds than a broken hero
I like that
Fine tune the whole game to nerf HH or put other heroes in line is better than a direct nerf
is Helhest just the strongest hero right now?
i started playing in this season so idk the old lore
pretty much any1 who owns T6 can wipe competition on C Ops leaderboard
yea shes broken shes also probably the least fun mythic character, its a curse
Curse of being the strongest
but they do need competant teammates if they are out of Shinka Cycle
funny how the strongest characters are almost always the most boring ones
Satoru Helhest
It was a mistake
yea its like you get to be powerful but you dont get to enjoy yourself
I donāt think netease intended it
i mostly play Rossi and Xuan Wei
Just lack of testing imo and a bad sell model
talent 5 with 6 volley stacks per press was crazy behavior
idk if either is good, i just like them
is fine, next season you can use both in Expanse eitherways
She is not boring lol
Itās just boring to everyone now since they always see her
After months of release
Yall mfs really hate helhest š
HH is boring. -said the peasants
The ones who didnāt get her ^
was my first thought. but i like peasants. trigger word
I have her by mistake
Every since helhest came out she made the game a lot more enjoyable for me
i have her but shes def boring
you can do all of your dps and rotation while more or less staring at the floor
some people just don't like long range characters
I have her at T0, still generating more ammo for teammates than half competent T6 HH users with Trinity
expose them.
T6 HH users with trinity? Excuse me
already did, everytime i complained about them
I can dps with most characters while staring at the floor , this game is not hard
we embrace cancel culture when dealing with bad t6 HH.
Helhest made it way more enjoy for me at least
HH is fun- said players that cant aim
Try that with xuan wei
you legit dont need to move your mouse to do damage as helhest and you lose like no uptime though
Expanse changes might be interesting next season. Dev notes imply that we will have one expanse for each weapon type.
indeed
I use to play umeko and hit nothing but headshots , once helhest came out all my clan told me she would be perfect for me since I always play precision , now that I got helhest itās easy comp since I already had amazing aim
yea i mean by that logic umeko should be more fun than helhest
cant wait to take T0 Estela in Expanse again
whats that
I have been bringing my T6 in even if she isnāt always as good just for fun XD
when
Yall better get used to helhest shes not going anywhere
Wonder with the removal of keys how they will be changing the rewards and difficulty scaling for expanse
Never. Pvp is dead
Nah, I will make Wolf Great again
yall mad at HH but want the carry.
Always š
i am content with Expert I lmaoo
dont want to spike cortisol of wanting to be in Master II
Iām always ready to pull out my HH to help out still
The helhest hate definitely comes from calamity ops
Nah being forced to play her in crota encounter and stare at a wall while stacking buff was what threw me
Haha , thatās how crota is since day 1
Devs: We're moving away from a pure draw-based model and giving players another way to earn characters besides the gacha system
Players:
MY PINNACLE
WE CANT READ
With this sacred paragon I summon...Wolf
Gacha haters rejoice
We are never beating the allegations
reading comprehension is strong with this one
A lot of comments are saying that they'll use all their leaves before season 4, it's so joever
Plus they also made you stare at the wall because you couldnāt stay alive
yikes
Sure bud
Misinformation spread successfully. Man needs to take his video down
I havenāt watched their take on it, but yea the extrapolation from ānew systemā to ā gacha goneā is a long jump XD.
5* ikora micro black hole still counts as summon right
Our helhest for crota got to move around and play , idk what ur team was doing
Go back to playing ur braindead champ and bragging about how good u are when no one really cares š¤£
i care.
Reported
Just stating facts bud no need to get angry
They can only blame themselves
Iām not spending my pinnacle , if they scam me oh well
Just spend it all dog
i love how 9000 blue pinnacle owners want compensation for being able to do the same thing after patch is online
Yeah I already spent all mine in choas
if they do scam. i'll hold you.
Slap me
well whats weirder is they want compensation for money they can just spend right now
They will get compensation with nothing but regret and agony

I love how brokies like to tell us whales what to do
Like it actually mattered we spent 2.99$ a week
I remember when in the start of the game, getting exotics was something cool and rare
but the endgame is so casual
thatās a energy drink I get on the daily
2.99 a week is cheaper then a pint of beer
damn bro was on leaderboard no.1 at 2.99$ a week 
Cheaper than a gallon of gas
all those keys are weighing me down.
Thatās all the pinnacle cost
Destiny in a nutshell, at least in DR duplicates have some use
we are getting new exotics!
Lumina please ;-;
Yes, the problem is when you get more than you need
Those poor clotho members
id pay them for overtime, if i could
I prefer upgrading exotic level with duplicates than using exotic cores
Pay them by saving their timeline
best i can do is 4$ a year
š
take it or leave it
we are baby whales in this game
thats gonna give like 1 new exotic
Ur clusters are looking a lil low
It's 390 cores to max out an exotic
is new ikora good? i've just been throwing my free pulls at her, haven't played in a while, and just got my 5th one, do i invest in her a lot?
Spent them all on maxing everyone
MY EYES
Thatās how this cycle is going too
Yeah, I would stop pulling for her and get the last copies from standard banner tho
Hopefully we are weak af for the new season since lvl 90 is the new cap
pretty sure lvl 90. is just the bare bones of what is happening
So we have a reason to grind
I wonder if they are gonna raise enemy power to like 80k or something
I fail to see how increasing team level to 90 will change anything tbh
Hopefully
hopefully every character gets 1% damage per level to 90 but helhest gets .1% instead amen
theyre going to have to add something to artifacts/weapons and have the paragon system directly feed to it.
To make us waste our stocked up materials
You don't use resources to increase team lvl tho
Level 90 cap huh
True
So that means season 5 we are going to level 100
Lvl 90 team level prollly will correlate to lvl 90 weapons and artifacts or whatever they decide to do with that. Possibly anyways
We prob will log in insta 90 unless they change the excess xp thing
New story add on right?
Yeah new story new red sea rift zone
I doubt it, excess xp goes to the seasonal artifact rn
I forgot about that
This is going be interesting. Who do you think will be the villain. With it been an early timeline
Oh yeah ur prob right
Ahamkara
New raid is vs ahamkara
Yeah they mentioned I forgot thanks
They are from the Red Sea , or a lot are there right now in this game
So that Ahamkara is Last Wish Raid right
probably not
I really hope they haven't been storing all the XP since we hit 80 lol. We'd be good for the next 100 level cap increases
the great hunt in d2 was lore definition was pretty much the guardians committing dragon genocide
so if the raid is that morgran gonna be pretty sad
The ahamkara s name is Njorun
Hoping for some new cosmetics
Estella story continues
So really good ones aswel
Is there any lore to that ?
need dead ahamkara bone transmog
We need an artifact storage limit increase
She has the best story so far so I donāt mind
Please
This game needs a vault
Only reason I stopped grinding chaos was cuz I'm tired of constantly deleting artifacts
Iāve passed that limit months ago
I have like 50 in the mail
And they need to stop auto locking mythic artifacts. Annoying af unlocking them all just to delete
It doesn't help that some go into mail 1 at a time
You lot are hoarders
Yes
I'm gonna log in just to clean up my artifacts now
if it doesnt have weapon dmg bonus i just delete them ngl
Lol my OCD goes crazy on them
Horrific hoarders
lol true
what if this is meta one day...
I canāt hoard I get PTSD
Please no
Eh man gotta hoard the artifacts as never know when they might come in handy
Oh and barrier bonus. If it has that i also just delete it. š sorry kabr fans
RIP to the Kabr fans
Plus with the changes coming to the artifacts I see no point in grinding for more of them
I slapped the valiant veil I farmed months ago on Jaren and called it a day. Didnāt need to farm for him anymore
Or vuln+dbb on the same roll. Deleted. Dual element? Deleted. Thats how i cleared out like 100. And u know its already back to full of exotics again
Rossi is beautiful
Is he worth investing
From everything so far , not really , but heās fun to play
Iāve seen that big great barrier he can drop
I would build craft, just need his T2 i think before he is viable
I wish Rossi was better I love him
They just need to lower his cooldowns
Oh ok I will keep that in mind thanks
His skills are pretty unique
My f2p alt has him at t5 and 1 copy from t6. How are u t2? My alt umeko is t6.
So really Rossi needs a buff
When was he last on Banner? During HH?
Kabr 2
Paragon system may or may not save Rossi-11
Yeah didn't pull for Kabr for more than T1 and my ahh had some other character dropping more
Don't remember what Talent i have him on
Thereās character upgrades on there
i have t0 kabr. come at me.
No man not the Dibalo Paragon
But T2 is where he drastically improves
Again, f2p alt. almost t6 from both banners.
We are done for
luck
Which makes it more interesting
Logging in every day is what does it.
I got more Ikora 4* than Xuan Wei and Umeko on Ikora banner
That paragon really gave me anxiety
Sheās good tho forsaken
Never disagreed, she performs her niche really well
T5 Umeko? Alright I canāt talk to you anymore
Not sure if im excited about this or not xD
Just want her durations to go up
Her healing is crazy
Opera gx right..?
Have to wait and see
Thereās light links for that
Hey gang, I have a lot of the bon voyage charms leftover. Will.those be converted or do I need spend those before S4? Does anyone know?.
Not enough, have T6 Attal and it's only 20%
They are not going anywhere
Only 20% bro wants to be op
Oh wait nevermind, Umeko buffs debuff duration herself.
I like to be OP
Attal buffs buff duration
20% of 8secs is still 1.6 secs
Don't cha dare
Math š§®
š
I hate math
I already have crystals but saving them for a rainy day in pulls
Im all for character upgrades. Some definitely need it. But it still probably wont shake up the meta too much cause meta characters will just still be better with the same upgrades. I hope its different for each character then maybe, just maybe we will see meta change
I hate numbers
This is a character balance
Thatās why I just rage bait the best players snd they tell me their setups , and I just copy
We have another one
Revamped
𤣠𤣠god
I canāt cope
I mean giving 20% buff to HH damage will only make her clear 3 secs faster.
Whereas giving the same to Xuan Wei will make him room cleaner
Thank you. May I ask about Pinnacle Reserves, will those be converted as well?
Im gonna do this. One min.
Best thing to do and then start learning from there
Probably will, since it revamped it will allow them to balance all the heroes
It nearly killed me
And also balance the weapons
I really hope the system makes people able to play the characters they actually want to play more
Also buff helhest
Going to be one big system
It sounds that way
Buff all the bad characters
yea i mean that paragon board is the new patch note replacement area
HH wonāt be busted above all heroes now
What are u smoking
so buff Helhest.
Yes
Yes bro
No itās not buffs itās balancing
Yeah helhest needs a buff
Helhest is the worst character yall just suck. Buff plz
Nerf all the best 1s
Went the game gets to S4 we gone see all they did was a rebalance and model change
Give helhest 12 stacks of salvo instead of 6 pls šāāļøšāāļø
Donāt over complicate it
Yea rc fell off, gonn have to triple the dmg of rc to get it to compete again
So the season is cooked
I mean, outside of CO you mostly can
The only reason you bring in a new character upgrade system is when the old one fails
Worst case scenario
It was never good tho
So this is the situation they get to balance out hero without directly nerfing 1
The current one isn't that good
I mean I remember some teams being double HH with one use Arba and one using RC because RC was better for burst damage
Disclaimer: this is a joke, and should not be taken seriously.
Not enough
Exactly and you can feel that
They should pay us tbh for sticking around this long xD
So now with this new hero upgrade they can make the relevant adjustments for heroes
dont worry about warning ppl. let the dumb ppl expose themselves.
I do wonder if weāll ever get more exotic bows tho
Gimme all the dablooons I am owed netease
Without damaging the remorse spender
Eventually
Someone will see that and take it at face value