💭│main-chat

[eager cedar]

So basically, its 7am my time if its right after the in-game timer ends. But if we are going off the discord then it starts for me at midnight, this is annoying.

[sacred abyss]

not part of this topic, but does anyone know if the descriptions for the turrets in the new event are bugged? the targeting says closest but they keep letting enemies pass through

[merry anvil]

I mean if we are going off the 1d and 14h timer left in game then it would start 9am est

But not having an official announcement on twitter or something is a bit annoying

[eager cedar]

Which makes more sense to me logically, but i dont want to coordinate people for that time then it turns out its the next day...

[karmic chasm]

Holy smokes this guy looks cool

[twilit thistle]

At this point, we have two offical severs with two different times, that are also different to the in game time. We will get lumia leaves, and an offical time in game. That time, is when it starts.

[bitter estuary]

ok im tired i think imma just stop with bulwark

[eager cedar]

Yea, like it starts when it starts but thats going to kill any hype for the race. Since viewers won't know when it actually starts and neither will racers trying to get teams ready

[twilit thistle]

Still have time, its not gonna start tomorrow, and tomorrow we will know (if not sooner).

[eager cedar]

Hope your right on that

[brisk mango]

I was able to get Kabr the Resolute (or as I like to call him Super Kabr (that alias is pending at the moment until I find a better one) within a couple of days of this new season, He's quite impressive (shame he doesn't have a character quest as I'm not sure how there can be two Kabrs in this new timeline and a character quest could explain that, cause I don't think the lore explains it), heck I heard he'll be added to Rising Lights after this season ends (really wish they would do that for Gwynn, Estela and Helhest as those are the only three characters I don't have), so we don't need to be worried if anyone misses out on this season or joins after it, it seems

[thorny obsidian]

did you make it to 99?

[karmic chasm]

I’m calling him Chad Kabr now as some others do.

[brisk mango]

Oh I like that

[errant narwhal]

He’s going to have Character quest I believe

[brisk mango]

I do find it funny that his sheild is called Levin, not Aegis like it was in the original Destiny timeline (then again maybe Aegis was a name the player characters gave to it when we found it)

[errant narwhal]

Aegis is what its called after Kabr becomes part of it isnt it

[brisk mango]

Oh right that was after he put all his remaining light into it as he died in the original Destiny Timeline

[karmic chasm]

The other reason I’m enjoying Chad Kabr is because VoG was my absolute favorite activity in the history of gaming

[brisk mango]

Back in the day beating VoG was an accomplisment to be proud of

It felt that way to me when I did it

[karmic chasm]

It’s still fun bc new lights need a clear

[twilit thistle]

[bitter estuary]

91 😔

[thorny obsidian]

😭

how long did i take you?

[sharp grove]

Lets go my first run above wave 5 lol

[bitter estuary]

nearly 3 hours i think

this would've been worth it if there's 30 chests

[brisk mango]

Is this in solo or multiplayer?

[thorny obsidian]

oh damn, thats something for tomorrow then. to late for me now LOL

[sharp grove]

Solo

[brisk mango]

I still can't get past the fourth one of solo

[sharp grove]

I havent even played multilayer yet

[sharp grove]

I used 1 tower to remove invis then every other spot is anesthesia

[twilit thistle]

The in game time is the giveaway. Its showing an error. The minute timer has been truncated and in its place is "On". Not zero, the letter o.

[sharp grove]

I had 1 exotic tower in the back which has alot of blast damage but I think it was useless tbh

[thorny obsidian]

only exotic you need is stone hoof

[bitter estuary]

once you cleared wave 15, and just started wave 16, just dismantle all your towers

[brisk mango]

My main problem is due to the lag issues the show up, also the Hive Knights that appear in the last two waves are insanely durable and despite using the anti-fog cannons that it recommends they don't even phase them

[sharp grove]

Rip i don't have it yet

[sharp grove]

I've only got to wave like 6 or something when I played 2 days ago, with them shield guys. I just tried again today I dont have the shield guys / fog enemies

[rain condor]

Understatement XC100 and Anesthesia will be good some day

[brisk mango]

Huh I have the feeling we are talking about different things in this

[sharp grove]

When I played a few days ago I had the same enemies you mentioned. I think it changes every few days or something, because today I did not have dark fog enemies

[rain condor]

There was a patch or something yesterday after the update, they could have changed things

[cyan tide]

Endless modifiers change every day I think

[sharp grove]

Yeah probably

[twilit thistle]

Did you see this on the sniper rifle? I almost wonder if this could be a way of dealing with wolf/kabr bots in sg.

[errant narwhal]

Seeing D2 perks makes me happy

[sharp grove]

Does stone hoof remove the warping effect permanently or is it only for enemies in its range

[hearty salmon]

does anyone know a good tower to counter the flying harpies in td?

[errant narwhal]

anesthesia

[sharp talon]

just flood the map with stone hoofs u dont need to think about it

[sharp grove]

Is stone hoof > anesthesia

[errant narwhal]

yeah

stone hoof removes every buff

[vast arch]

everyone keeps saying that but it doesn't work until you get to higher rounds, at least not for me

[sharp grove]

Ah so start off with anesthesia and then when I get rich replace everything with hoof?

[errant narwhal]

Yeah I think so

[sharp talon]

got to round 87 on 3 player endless with everyone just using stone hoofs

[sharp grove]

Ah ok

[errant narwhal]

anesthesia and anti whatever you need

[sharp talon]

do you have the 2* version?

[sharp grove]

Ill try hoof spam out lol

[sharp talon]

because thats when it becomes broken with other hoofs stacking with each other

[twilit thistle]

is it new? i dont recall seeing a perk that actually has "light bearers" in it, other than saying damage is reduced.

[errant narwhal]

Vorpal has been in D2 since the base game

[hearty salmon]

stone is the only one i dont have lol

[vast arch]

yeah

[twilit thistle]

(to dr i meant, i know its in d2)

[sharp talon]

yeah idk its been very broken in my experience

[errant narwhal]

Oh I think its new in DR but I could be wrong

[sharp talon]

my teammates were afk so the superweapon wasnt really used

[errant narwhal]

how do people circumvent afk kicking

[sharp talon]

premade

you can afk in a premade

[errant narwhal]

ah dumb

its like the one gamemode you shouldn’t be afk kicked for but calops won’t afk kick

[brisk mango]

Hey this may sound like a silly question but are lag or system crashes common with this game, I've been getting a lot of those lately and they make it very difficult to do anything in the game. Any ideas on how to handle this?

[errant narwhal]

I get crashes here and there, lag not really

[sharp talon]

not really ive crashed like under 5 times since i started playing

[vast arch]

You start with hoof, no other towers?

[errant narwhal]

No you use hoof later on

[sharp talon]

anesthesia then i sell for hoof asap. then build up several more level 1 hoofs for buffs before you start upgrading 1

[errant narwhal]

Is base hoof still good on its own or do you gotta use other stuff with it

[twilit thistle]

if this is the first, i think there were other changes behind the scenes. I noticed in sg one of my artifacts appeared to no longer do as much damage as it did previously. That could hint to pvp being reworked and finished.

[vast arch]

Alright so everyone who is just saying "hoof all the way" isn't giving the full picture. The most important part is getting through the early stages to get enough money to buy and upgrade all teh hoof's

[sharp talon]

yes its pretty good because of the stacking

[errant narwhal]

you can get through the early stages with no towers if you really want to

[vast arch]

through stage 10?

[errant narwhal]

yeah lol

[sharp talon]

u already have a lot of hooves by that point

[errant narwhal]

You can probably get 1 per roundish

[sharp talon]

in solo you can just start with hoof and never bring anything else. in 3 player it's optional to bring another tower and sell within a round or so for hoof

[oak kettle]

when's artifact seasonal power from last season being removed? I would've thought it'd be gone by now but mine are still at 85

[vast arch]

i'd love to see a video of this cuz that has not been my experience lmao

[sharp talon]

ill record something if i remember tomorrow

[twilit thistle]

Estella is 5 towers.

[winged lintel]

So tmmrw they will finally tell us the actual official launch time of the new raid, right? Otherwise ill just assume in game timer is correct

[sharp grove]

Do u upgrade first hoof or spam loads down first

[sharp talon]

spam because the buffs stack

[sharp grove]

What if I only have 1 star

[sharp talon]

its bad at 1 star

[sharp grove]

Damn

[cyan tide]

I really hope that's not the actual time

[winged lintel]

I just want to have the assurance of an official statement lol

[summer ledge]

If only Ir Yût was not reverted to a precision frame.

[bitter estuary]

gacha revenue updated (jan 1st 2026 data)

[winged lintel]

Yeah im thinking total lock down is still the BiS mythic, right? Faster dmg

[oak kettle]

I've been sitting with the login bonuses unclaimed cus i wanna wait for the reset b4 grabbing the artifact seasonal boosters but at this point is it even happening?

[sharp talon]

probably not at this point

[bitter estuary]

lmao so you really need 610 tower copies in order to max out the rare/legendary stuff to t4

[hidden carbon]

Could be like the candy back in october where they forgot to code in an expiration date

[sharp talon]

not sure how they would handle going from 85 to 80 substats with the rounding and in between stats i think (?) and how you could max a 80 artifact with less essence before going to 85 (making it somewhat gameable in that way)

[mossy holly]

Whys the Bulwurk ops not a permanent gamemode?

[hidden carbon]

If they decide to reset them later then thats a lot of essence they’ll have to refund people

[sharp talon]

yea its just a mess to think about i dont think they will do it

[winged lintel]

It is, but it has a cycle just like shifting gates does

[bitter estuary]

i assume they're gonna reset it every season

that being said considering the AMOUNT of grind you need to t4 a tower, i hope it doesn't reset the towers

[mossy holly]

Ohh, mb

[hidden carbon]

I doubt they’ll reset the towers

[winged lintel]

They reset each act

[mossy holly]

I think its a lot of fun earning those towers

(As someone who plays TDS before) I can approve this.

[bitter estuary]

a single run to wave 15 is like nearly 2x shorter to grind compared to doing it in strikes

[mossy holly]

Also I got a dupe for new Kabr

[bitter estuary]

and considering both have the same rates i assume it's more efficient to grind in bulwark

[winged lintel]

Im still 28/30 on the dang towers

[sharp talon]

29/30 but i just want more copies of hoof

[mossy holly]

I struggle to get new and better weapons for him though..

[fiery cloud]

wait did they seriously end the snowball showdown thing when the triumph still says theres 6 more days?

[mossy holly]

I want to get his new exotics though

[fiery cloud]

was there any indication that you wouldnt be able to run this mission after new years? im kind of upset but ill take the L if it was shown somewhere lmaoo i was just going off of the triumph timer i dont like not being able to trust the timers in this game lol

[sharp talon]

the game mode menu had a timer i think. not sure if it aligned with the triumph timer

[rich veldt]

Kid what are you doing in there?

[fiery cloud]

ah well its just 5 leaves i just wanted to have all the triumphs done lmao

[thorny frost]

I stopped paying attention to the snowball fight, but I know the race one had that the event would end when it did with the count down.

[twilit thistle]

is that the first time its been in a perk

[karmic chasm]

Been wondering- why is DP funny to you lol

YEAAAAAASSS

[twilit thistle]

I am starting to think that will be the next update. Pvp.

[karmic chasm]

I have to keep pulling for the transmat 💀

[twilit thistle]

Any perk ever had the word light bearer other than being reduced dmg? That could be a hint.

[karmic chasm]

Corner I think. I need the middle for the ghost

[thorny frost]

It is seasonal as the tower will reset for the next season is how it reads in the game description

O dang, I actually like Kabr transmit card emote but so not willing to keep pulling for him

[karmic chasm]

I got “toast” tho @true mauve

[twilit thistle]

ignoring that part i meant. I havent seen it anywhere else.

[karmic chasm]

Bro gonna be vexified soon

[thorny frost]

Wasn’t that phrase always on Vorpal? Swore I remember it with something that mentioned powerful enemies.

[vapid ibex]

Kabr does more damage with RC at t0 than Helhest at t6 max everything and god roll artifacts (without salvo) by like a sheee ton, the moment a salvo integrated artifact comes out Helhest is cooked

[twilit thistle]

🤔 elaborate?

[eager cedar]

That's a bold claim senator, mind backing it up with a source?

[twilit thistle]

I wouldnt be surprised. Defiantly going to beat HH with primaries.

[vapid ibex]

Shooting through the shield with all of kabrs damage bonuses at t0 with t0 artifacts does more damage than helhest with a lvl 3 drone out and no salvo.

Which is crazy considering at t6 kabrs shield has the double damage on shield first shot 50% boost

[thorny frost]

He said without Salvo which is what HH basically relies on

[karmic chasm]

I’m so confused by this because it’s actually impossible 💀

Oh wait you said no salvo ok

[thorny frost]

Without salvo means she has no weapon mastery

[violet sonnet]

All this reads is "This Char does more DMG using his entire Kit then another Char not using their Major Kit Ability"

Like you lose practically half your Kit on Helhest without Salvo

[twilit thistle]

I predicted this. Did you try the scout?

[vapid ibex]

At t0, with t0 artifacts.

Keep in mind the Helhest has a level 3 drone out at t6 with t10 artifacts

That’s why I’m saying when a salvo integrated/ damage enhanced shot artifacts comes out (most likely soon with the next spread character) Helhest is cooked

Crazy

[cyan tide]

Almost like you miss out on a lot of buffs when you don't use half of her kit

[vapid ibex]

Her kit is just an integrated artifact

Even if the damage enchanted shot artifacts were to come out Helhest still wouldn’t be able to do as much damage

It’s likely the next spread characters artifact lineup, enhanced heavy ammo shots of some sort, since none of the spreads weapons or kits have that yet

[dusty spire]

Ranged damage build is definitely a hitter

[vapid ibex]

Yee and Kabr will take over, I don’t even have the dude upgraded yet lols

[dusty spire]

He just slow like the rest of the titans but what’s makes up for it is that he wants to fight at a range

[twilit thistle]

+215% /+77% Weapon Mastery damage, right? for kabr? I already predicted that from weapon mastery alone would be very good. (Credit @thorny frost )

[dusty spire]

Slaps….

Got my hellhest and it was a titan 🙂 thanks

[vapid ibex]

I don’t know what that means lol

But basically weapon> signature damage on new kabr

[dusty spire]

This is like a prayer for me as a Titan collector just threw me the weopon combo I wanted lol

[eager cedar]

Isn't helhest also a support? People were complaining about how the support was outdmging everyone. Now she can still do good DMG while also buffing team DMG and healing?

[vapid ibex]

Arbalest would just 1 hit piercing shinka, not just pop it but literally 1 tap it

[thorny frost]

Salvo: is needed for a lot of her rank up/abilities. Weapon mastery activates for 6 seconds after using salvo (60% over clock damage) you lose out on her T6 ability to as directing units volley is part of the Salvo skill. With out Salvo a T6 is basically a T0 when comparing damage.

[dusty spire]

Yeah it’s a shink killer that’s it tbf

[vast arch]

Am I doing this right?

[twilit thistle]

The first % is primary, the second is heavy. These are for kabr.

[thorny frost]

*weaker then a T0

[vapid ibex]

Oooo idk,

I’m actually going to be building primary for kabr. Symmetry is definitely better than arbalest

You have infinity ammo, and symmetry has a built in heavy weapon feature integrated into its catalyst. So you honestly don’t need to use your heavy with him if you build it right

[thorny frost]

I am pretty interested into Symmetry… it seems to read like it will be a mini spread weapon like Gallows (but better for spread?).

[indigo solar]

No

[twilit thistle]

he should be cracked with that primary. That is a ridiculous amount of damage. I might have to test him.

[cyan tide]

I wonder if the alt fire of Symmetry will work against spread shinkas

[vapid ibex]

I’ve already tested jt, it’s just a really fast shooting scout rifle, it basically shoots the same speed as any normal assault rifle, you then get energy charge from arc damage and kills which you can then switch to arc seeker mode which does slow shooting spread weapon shots

[indigo solar]

You need to wait under the towers

[cyan tide]

https://tenor.com/view/arriba-gif-12324188786972117417

[indigo solar]

How? I didn't think you were on the early access server

[vapid ibex]

I already told people I am and they’re like “noOH yoauuU DoNt hawveE ThE RoLe” like duh I don’t talk on my main 😭

But basically it’s the same feature as volley mode on octant riot, the switching mode.

[thorny frost]

That 260 fire rate seems to be lying then XD, even with the RoF buff it shouldn’t reach assault rifle speed. If it did holy, that weapon might cover three Shinkas.

[vapid ibex]

2nd catalyst gives it fire up rate, which is what makes it faster

[violet sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-him-pointing-out-i-saw-it-checking-out-review-gif-10881577179512671677

[vapid ibex]

Arc seeker mode is still slow af

[karmic chasm]

I’m using rampaging as well

[thorny frost]

But that would only be 18% with it stacking three times.

[vapid ibex]

Bro that’s really fast 😭 wdym have you seen parole with just 18% on weapon mod

[thorny frost]

Not saying it won’t shoot faster then that, just saying I definitely wouldn’t of guessed that by the stats

[vast arch]

darn now i need to start over

[thorny frost]

But Mythics can get that on their mods, Assault rifles are quite a bit faster then scout.

[twilit thistle]

You taught me to simply use the archives menu and do the math manually for it. No test server needed.

[indigo solar]

I unironically afk here tho, nothing renders except bosses (they render no matter what) so it's much easier on the battery

[indigo solar]

I mean the mechanics can't be discovered through stats tho

[bitter estuary]

yes yes do the stone hoof domain expansion

[vapid ibex]

Well idk how to explain it but it’ll be officially out in like 2 days. You’ll see what I mean, it shouldn’t even be labeled a scout rifle. The things basically just an assault rifle

[indigo solar]

Especially when they don't give seeker damage in stat page

[vapid ibex]

For comparison it’s already way faster than Gwynn’s exotic primary

And those are dual pistols

[twilit thistle]

Other than bugs, there shouldn't be a significant deviation like 20x more damage than calculated. We can eyeball it.

[thorny frost]

Yea I wasn’t saying you were lying just the stat page is. Assault (sworn oath) having 600 RoF over scout 260 is quite substantial. It is just there is probably more to the weapon then I was assuming. In the end we will see, could also be last minute changes made too like previous units.

[sharp sundial]

Is Crota coming out today?

[random steeple]

Hi guys, any information about start time of Crota?

[vapid ibex]

There’s some damage % bugs but it’s probably just mistyped like TLW which was discovered to be intentional

[karmic chasm]

@vapid ibex no dissent intended, but I was wondering if you could expand on your theory that Chad Kabr has higher DPS than Helhest with Royale Contravene

[rain condor]

Im wondering this too tbh

[karmic chasm]

9 am EST is what I heard

[cyan tide]

In-game event says 9am est

[vast arch]

I have not gotten confirmation yet but various sources have different times. In game timer points to 1/3 6AM PDT. A discord post in #📅│event-news points to 1/3 11PM PDT

[karmic chasm]

I won’t be able tonight to raid race anyway soooooo

[worldly hazel]

Max acclaimed tonight 😮‍💨

[vast arch]

#touch-grass

[true mauve]

How?

[vast arch]

I'm on wave 52 and I haven't touched my mouse since wave 25

how long will this last?

[true mauve]

They say until wave 80

[karmic chasm]

Aura

[candid tusk]

99 waves

[karmic chasm]

Danielle hit 90 today

[true mauve]

He was playin drums out there the other day

[vast arch]

The only thing that is able to make it out of the gates is the boss lmao

[true mauve]

99 is max but after 80 is supposed to not be afk mode

[karmic chasm]

Well what can you even do?? You can damage stuff? Blind I imagine?

[indigo solar]

Jump from the purple building

Well

[true mauve]

Throw super weapon

[indigo solar]

The rails connected to the purple building

[true mauve]

Where?

[karmic chasm]

I haven’t finished the tutorial levels lmao

[thorny frost]

I think this is kind of what they meant (their rotation and artifacts are probably slightly different, just did something quick for Kabr).

[karmic chasm]

They said they had lvl three drone up tho 😭

[thorny frost]

I thought they meant lvl 3

[karmic chasm]

Ohh wait hold on

[thorny frost]

O oops forgot to recharge ability when I switched in

[karmic chasm]

Yea you did ok. Interesting interesting

[thorny frost]

Ok I wasn’t an idiot in my test XD wouldn’t be the first time

[karmic chasm]

I find her much stronger in calamity, idk

[thorny frost]

The thing is lvl 3= lvl 2 for damage test without salvo

[karmic chasm]

I want Kabr to be good though. He feels GREAT. Hopefully I pull T4 while getting the last few card fragments

[thorny frost]

Salvo does a ton for her, it activates her weapon mastery, speeds up her shots, activates her T6 ability (along with additional volleys from her drones). Salvo is really integral to her kit.

[true mauve]

You T3 also?

I hope you get T5, 60second super seems meta

Surprised they didnt add 1 second to his blind

[indigo solar]

Here

[thorny frost]

Besides the extra damage and lock on stacks the 50% reduction to charge time is pretty big for fusion rifles I feel.

[true mauve]

Ohhh that building

[karmic chasm]

I am! I really needed t3 for my artifact setup so I could generate overshield.

[indigo solar]

Aw man they patched the Donovan oob

[karmic chasm]

Yea I’d like to get a double pull. His talents are all quite good.

[indigo solar]

Probably an accident from when they were fixing the orb showing

[true mauve]

Ngl T3 seems base point, I wasnt gonna touch him but now I will try him when Symmetry hits

[thorny frost]

Be amusing as that might help his burst a bit if they did XD

[true mauve]

Trade Jaren T5s fr

[karmic chasm]

Nourishing Pact, Ring of Conversion for T3

[floral abyss]

Yeah they moved the nine orb near him to outside his research place in haven

[true mauve]

I hope Symmetry procs Blazar artis ngl lol

[indigo solar]

Yeah but they also added an invisible roof inside Donovan's area so now you can't oob out

[floral abyss]

Was that the only way to get to it previously?

[true mauve]

Remember, in Cal Ops you cant spell Noob without oob

[thorny frost]

That would be epic kind of, spraying through a group of mobs triggering this instantly on every single one (that and Jaren Super being spammable and helping with welling light stacks) not sure if it would help Kabr or hurt him but concept is nice.

[dusty spire]

You play a qualitative approach or quantitative?

[indigo solar]

No there are still over a dozen methods to oob to the roof

[true mauve]

Itd help both, intern messed up

[floral abyss]

But there was no way to get it before without using an oob method right?

I just want to know if that original spot for was intended or not

[hard forge]

Why are you needing to oob to the roof?

[echo horizon]

Finally

[indigo solar]

The original spot could be reached from outside, it was just inside a building you could walk into

You couldn't interact with it from Donovan

You could only see it

But there was an oob from Donovan to the roof that is now patched

[floral abyss]

Ahhh

[dusty spire]

Flex 🤩

[indigo solar]

At least now you can do this, which is cool I guess

WAIT

This actually lets you get under the speaker now

[thorny frost]

Patch one OOB and give Taniks a new OOB location… sounds about right

[indigo solar]

Lmao hello there stranger

Whaddup nerds

[vapid ibex]

It just does more when shooting through the shield at t0 and t0 artifacts than helhest with a lvl 3 drone at t6 and t10 artifacts, when helhest doesn’t have salvo. I was just hinting towards the fact that maybe in the future when a spread character has enchanted bullets as an artifact which is likely, then Helhest would no longer deal the most damage. Because effectively salvo is just an integrated artifact on her kit

[twilit thistle]

In b4 we see you already beat crota bc u took the OOB to the moon

[eager niche]

bulwark ops is defo gonna be dr's blitz royale
it first appears lightly as an event then suddenly devs make the choice to keep it and it gets random updates

[karmic chasm]

Ok ok, gotcha. So she’s not irrelevant but could be easily powercrept with one small release. Neat

[thorny frost]

Believe it is already confirmed it is staying, or at least returning in future seasons. It is just the towers will reset

[karmic chasm]

I think that T3 is definitely a starting point- that said, I wouldn’t discourage using him at T0 for someone who needs a arc/defense character and doesn’t like Rossi. Although, if they don’t like Rossi, they should probably see a psychiatrist.

You either enjoy bows because they are good, or you’re wrong.

[thorny frost]

I have a feeling that some will definitely get reworked/nerfed in the future. Hoof is just to strong with the stacking buffs

[karmic chasm]

The fact that you can’t deal damage after like wave 10 is problematic though. I thought this would be like Helldivers 2 tower defense where it’s an actual mission with fighting

[thorny frost]

I kind of thought it would be like this, and I don’t hate tower defenses so I wasn’t as discouraged. But some update to make it where they could attack towers/yourself would help it. Make it so you have to focus down the anti tower mobs. I don’t know Helldivers tower defenses, so maybe that would also have been a good option. I will need to YouTube it sometime.

Exploding Shinkas/cursed thralls/snipers in general all focusing on towers would be annoying and fun XD.

[bitter estuary]

at this point they will nerf towers if they release newer ones to "refresh" the tower pool

i think lightbearers should be able to deal damage as per usual like in any other mode and retain the tower defense part, maybe also add more rewards outside the 15 waves mark, since at this moment it's very repetitive and unrewarding the further you go

[twilit thistle]

@thorny frost i do have bad new for estella on jarens side. It is not doable, I tried and the same shinka mechanics from last time stopped me on 36. Its the 3 floor one, and its litterally impossible.

[vast arch]

Update: Just hit wave 80

[thorny frost]

Cody gave some suggestions in the feedback channel.

[twilit thistle]

Estella is so good in there.

[bitter estuary]

bulwark plays like those very early itterations of tower defense games but in a bad way

[steady rain]

Whats the Best towers?

[thorny frost]

O shoot, yea that was hard enough on the spread side. What machine guns have you tried against it out of curiousity? I still need to go do it.

[bitter estuary]

stone hoof at t2

t4 recommended since the added 50% aura range can cover more than half the map, essentially having the max stack of buffs on one hoof

[indigo solar]

Only one combo beats this but it doesn't matter bc A) it requires a t4 exotic and B) stone hoof is good enough to beat 99 anyways

[indigo solar]

At like 85 you'll need to use the super weapon

[bitter estuary]

and even if that's at t4, hoof can catch up by itself with it's t4

[indigo solar]

Nah like if they made it truly endless this combo could go further

[vast arch]

nah im just gonna let it end

[twilit thistle]

Oh on the expanse? t0 jaren does better now, i think they buffed the shinka. By the time u get there its overtime, and the shinka will literally just slap you and 1 shot you. I cant get the hive shinka's ai to bug out. I tried for probably over 6 hours over these two expanses.

[indigo solar]

You're already this far tho

Don't quit on me now

You only need to use it once per wave

[twilit thistle]

100

[vast arch]

I just sat down to eat dinner lmao I only checked to see how far I got

[thorny frost]

I was disappointed that the rewards ended at wave 15. And yea it definitely need some refining. Add some towers to buff Light bearers in it or stuff like that could help, I kind of expected inflated ho pool tho to make it so towers didn’t just feel like dead weight.

[indigo solar]

Actually what perk did you pick

[vast arch]

wasn't paying attention at that point lmao

[twilit thistle]

Its suffering from the same problem shifting gates and iron bar suffer from. (one variation. iron bar, being the only one that has two)

[indigo solar]

I mean like the card you pick at the start of the match

If it's the slowdown one or the +15% fire rate you may still be able to win

Or if your towers are t3

[thorny frost]

Well crap XD lol I might give it a quick try but in the end I will probably resort back to Jolder.

[vast arch]

Super damage I think

[indigo solar]

Ah rip

Oh well

[vast arch]

seems like at 85 they die right at the portal

[thorny frost]

It needs more variety other than mob stats >.> honestly all game modes do. Sparrow racing needs more maps, card game needs more counter play cards to allow for more deck variety.

I wonder if they could make different shifting gates based on the amount of players queing…..

[twilit thistle]

I think its the first places to supply the "content" people keep complaining about. Even if its like 1 a month, it shows commitment.

[vast arch]

The most rounds without touching the super orb is 87

with the buffs I chose obviously

[simple plank]

Anasthesia tower cooks chat I like it

[thorny frost]

That is my hope too. If they do that I think a lot of the game modes could shine. I stopped doing a lot of the modes after doing the same thing for like the hundredth time. Snowballs on sparrow racing had some fun races tho.

[hasty kettle]

undaunted blazar or ring of abundance for maru?

[indigo solar]

It kinda does but starts falling off hard around 30

Also bc it fires a burst and then has a cooldown, and the cooldown seemingly isn't affected by rof buffs, it doesn't scale very well with hooves

Meaning in late stages (I tested at like 70-something) a single anesthesia and 13 hooves performed worse than 14 hooves

[bitter estuary]

the concept of a roguelite tower defense is nice but the current state of the mode is just... meh

[indigo solar]

I'm just holding out hope bc chaos used to be limited to 10 stages but they changed it due to popular demand

[bitter estuary]

bc the mechanics itself is gone after 7 upgrades so idk

[bitter estuary]

they should revamp chaos and bulwark to be a proper roguelike mode

[simple plank]

I combined it with Slag Launcher and Acute Field. Worked great

[versed scroll]

Why no Character Quest for Kabr-R?

[versed scroll]

Preparation Stage timer too low. 🥹

[karmic chasm]

How much would I need to invest in her to use her there

[true mauve]

Expanse 40 be teachin me about arti builds 😭

[karmic chasm]

Who are you running

[true mauve]

Rossi

[karmic chasm]

Did you get past 36? Any tips?

I haven’t tried since a few days ago, though

@true mauve

[twilit thistle]

Estella is high maintenance. Im beating t6 HH and nings tho after fully building her.

[true mauve]

I keep trying to do it no deaths xD am tweaking artis and strats as I go. Can do first 3 rooms in 2:35ish if I can aim

[twilit thistle]

It forces you to learn the character you play. You will never beat it if you dont master them as well as the level.

[karmic chasm]

Ok so not past 33? I’m just tying to gauge if I genuinely suck or 36 is just hard

[true mauve]

It likes strategy thats for sure

[true basin]

is it common to T6 a character in like 200 boats?

[worldly hazel]

Are you using Gallows on her

[karmic chasm]

Mine is only T0 with no build lol. I think I’ll pass

[true mauve]

Will let you know later, am trying to get a Ring of Courage for slot3 like you use

[karmic chasm]

Not extremely common, though Kabr seems to be dropping like crazy

[true basin]

yea my luck for hmi has been kinda wild

2.5 percent or less, he's been dropping

[twilit thistle]

Just dont let it get to u if it is unbeatable at some random point. That happened last time with maru, for numerous ppl.

[rotund flame]

Finally got that one op tower and easily cleared floor 15. Stoped at 20 because i got bored, had to dismantle everything lol

[worldly hazel]

Are you using Gallows on her in there

[true basin]

yea I only main titans, going to try to T6 all of them

[twilit thistle]

No, heir is op.

[karmic chasm]

This is a fun one too. I really enjoy him. Had to fix his god awful helmet though

[true mauve]

Its not unbeatable, im taking it slow and paying attention. I learned first room kill both shinkas ASAP. On 33 I stand under shrieker spawn before I pop orb and spam him down untouched

[worldly hazel]

Try Gallows and let me know how you like it. I fully built her with Gallows in there and it’s ridiculous

[rotund flame]

Stone hoof is so broken once you unlock it, it does everything. Muqam for early game money and anesthesia for bosses

[twilit thistle]

Its the cabal guy that you have to throw two orbs at her with. thats the only one I know of that is nearly unbeatable for alot of people, i heard top players like octava complaining about it too.

[twilit thistle]

😭 i dont have gallows fully built or stone hoof unlocked @rotund flame

[true mauve]

Ohhh the 2 shield dudes on each side guarding orbs?

[worldly hazel]

Tanika girl did me dirty man. 2 days ago I said Estela was goated in there and said yall should use her. And Taniks completely invalidated everything I said and now all a sudden yall saying how good Estela is in there

🥀💔😞

[twilit thistle]

yep. It could be a maru related issue too idk. I found spots to cheese it and everything but I could not deal enough damage by a wide margin.

[rotund flame]

I got lucky and finally got it today. Helped me get past floor 15 on solo. Now i need to do co op. It's hard because my randoms sell or flood my map with enemies lol

[past flame]

Lmao

[twilit thistle]

Estella beats every other charachter in solo q because her kit is just designed differently. HH will always beat estella in a real fireteam tho, (bc ppl actually know what they are doing, and try much harder)

[worldly hazel]

I literally said “Estela for solo”

🥀💔😞

[twilit thistle]

and I carried @indigo solar during morgrans using estella.

[worldly hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/montgomery-swizzenbocher-montgomery-swizzenbocher-the-3rd-montgomery-swizzenbocher-iii-montgomery-swizzenbocher-mario-judah-mario-judah-gif-8660918683027233518

[rotund flame]

Dang, is your estella t6? Feel like her weapons aren't that great for her. Wish we had better exotics 😭

[true mauve]

Do you have this substat for Kabr? Seems OP

[twilit thistle]

T6 and god roll artifacts. I learned to use heir bc of the absurd range and damage in shifting gates actually. Estellas would wreck me from across the map

[thorny frost]

Did he just say that in the end towers do more? Because in TD that is definitely true farther stages. She does good for what a light bearer can do in there I feel.

[twilit thistle]

taniks has been very busy lately tbh, but yea in the end it would be towers. Estella is as good as a lightbearer can be tho, hh would definatly be better in the long run. (for matchmaking tho, 100% estella all the way. You can try your hardest but ur game will end at round 6 most of the time)

[true mauve]

This also good

[upper gorge]

Kabr is proving to be pretty fun, i am realizing i love defense charecters lol

[true mauve]

Lol I tries him but I dont have any LFR or Scouts built so he sucks for me

[thorny frost]

If you want to see how much damage she can deal in towers this tower might help if you have it T2 if you don’t need the shield removal.

[upper gorge]

becuase of my rossi-11 build i am experimenting with keeping the same artifacts

[twilit thistle]

😭 I dont even have them all unlocked. Ive been in SG practicing for crota.

[upper gorge]

yea im in a similar boat i want a better scout, i may just switch to polaris and my god role linear

[rotund flame]

I have her at t3. I also decided to stick with heir because it helps me build up lv 3 summons faster. Going to try for t6 if she returs

[thorny frost]

That is fair. World first is going to be rough with so many people knowing the raid in general. Best of luck to your team.

[twilit thistle]

Worlds first will go to @novel quest, i just want the embelem.

[bitter estuary]

huh

and that estela was 74k

[upper gorge]

Yea i dont have a team yet, i wonder what people are doing to prep for the race

[thorny frost]

I don’t know what to think of that…. Even T0 Estela should beat 4* Kabr XD

[bitter estuary]

telling the team about the d2 raid for this raid

[bitter estuary]

my kabr was 64k here

[novel quest]

Every little detail and possibility is planned out and practiced, crota is run gm blitz and raids are ran with no artifacts and bad weapons

[thorny frost]

Did you guys run Iron bar quite a bit last weekend to get back use to no talent on your units? That I feel would be the most disorienting

[tight talon]

👀

[bitter estuary]

my helhest was t0 from the start so i think it's fine

and before i get jumped i just collect characters for fun

[true mauve]

Symmetry soon fr

[bitter estuary]

im so split between this and song of ir yut im genuinely gonna explode in any second

[karmic chasm]

Idk if I can do 36 oml

My Rossi is getting actually gang slimed

[bitter estuary]

that's also with t6 rossi???

[true mauve]

Symmetry all day 😭

[true mauve]

My fastest time on 31 so far 35 secs

[bitter estuary]

i've built the mythic arc lfr anyways so it wont be too much of a hassle lol

my mats are just split very thinly and im broke as hell

i did extend my monthly, but i haven't bothered buying the bp bc idk if arbalest is good

[tight talon]

I used Kabr, lowkey just dk about him.

Feels like he could have gotten away using Fusion on primary. His reach skill could have been a shoulder bash.

He should have had the option to either hold his Luminous Barrier skill and consume three charges to move a barrier with himself

Super idk, you really can't do much with his super

[true mauve]

Will be a good season for free pinnacle

[bitter estuary]

i think you have more charges with kabr 4* but more burst dmg on 5*

that being said idk if 5* ricochets or not, the ult/s1 i mean

like i'm ngl it feels nice for single target on 5* but for cc it feels... meh

[tight talon]

For his barrier? My idea was like he could totally do what Volt from Warframe does.

Spawn a barrier and any teammates or himself can pick it up for a mobile barrier.

Would add so much variety for playstyle. And i am willing to take half off his barrier HP if that was a thing

[bitter estuary]

oh no i mean for the ult/s1 laser idk if it ricochets or not on kabr 5*, since it does on kabr 4*

also yeah i agree with having volt's mobile shield instead of deployable 3x stack shield

[tight talon]

It's just 'we tried Kamehameha from a shield' even though no Titan super ever has been like that

[karmic chasm]

Dude anything orange bar nearly 1 shots me.

[karmic chasm]

Looks great!

[bitter estuary]

idk if i can go that far on arc expanse

[karmic chasm]

If there wasn’t a shinka it might be easier

[bitter estuary]

ill try later idk or on sunday

[bitter estuary]

and in reality it's kabr aoe vs kabr single target

like ok kabr single target is better but the aoe feels nicer idk

[tight talon]

I haven't run the damage numbers yet. It didn't hurt Orange bars in GM strike so i am bit skeptical

Really need to learn trigger conditions and

Best damage rotation possible

[bitter estuary]

i did a run with 2/3/4 being plasma and it did hurt orange bars, but idk if i should swap plasma for rampaging pact bc i genuinely don't know what's the bis artefact for him

[tight talon]

aino way

[bitter estuary]

i used inspiring plasma bc well, his barrier blind only triggers in a 6x6m square

[twilit thistle]

Im ready for crota.

[bitter estuary]

i might use oversoul edict with frat+glutton but then again that thing's void so it's irrelevant for the raid 🥀

[amber bear]

75k so hard

[karmic chasm]

There’s literally too many enemies

[thin valve]

u ready for crota with attal?

[karmic chasm]

This is pissing me off guys. They do NOT need to have a servitor making the servitor immune every 5 seconds

[tight talon]

For Stella? Valid but use Fire Rush

[bitter estuary]

i alr have furies 3 for her so idk

[tight talon]

i mean when you got Heir Apparent

[twilit thistle]

Fair play. Even my profecency on umeko at 18,000 or 7 charachters above 72k arent gonna help in there.

[simple plank]

Fire rush kinda dookie on the auto rifle

[bitter estuary]

it is at cat 3 but i wont use it

[tight talon]

that's some uncharted waters

[tight talon]

Pulse*

Probably the only way a 540 can reach 800+ RPM at a minimum

[bitter estuary]

i have/can make all gauntlet blitz/onslaught weapons at/to cat 3 except octant which i need 1 more copy

idk why i gotten lucky on it but not on strike weapons

absolute dogwater luck game sucks balls

[tight talon]

[bitter estuary]

also what do you mean shooting throught kabr single target's barrier doesn't spread to other combatants

you can do aoe but do less dmg on kabr aoe but not on kabr single target wow rigged game

[versed scroll]

No Character Quest for Kabr-R?

[bitter estuary]

no character quest for kabr single target, only 5 lore entries

[tight talon]

yeah idk how damage scales when shooting through his barrier

EoL randomly does 500k or hardly does 80k

[bitter estuary]

this is the most divisive i've been on a mythic unit because why does it have inconsistencies found in umeko nvm im just dumb

[tight talon]

It will hit a huge number on a single barrier sometimes and have worse numbers on having +3 barriers at once

Or ramp up numbers as long as i keep shooting

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-27377993

my brain cannot process the barrier buffs

[twilit thistle]

Inconsistencies?

Umeko will consitently put out less damage than hellhest.

[bitter estuary]

t6 umeko requires you to know when the 60s timer ends so you can efficiently use her s1, but some ppl wont call it inconsistent but there's that, so i think if you can time that right i think it's consistent

THOUGH i have been playing her better so idk its just a tiny complain that i love to make big about bc i hate timing my abilities

[twilit thistle]

t6 umekos timer resets if u die, fun fact. Its faster to reset it that way 😇

[bitter estuary]

oh, wait then... oh ok so it is consistent

wow kabr 5* is that crap ok thanks for that fun fact

[twilit thistle]

tbh its buggy too. SO many times i have thrown that shruikan with nothing in the way of it, and it just deflects off an invisible wall. Other times its off the pixel of an object. its best to jump before you use any of those. Im to the point of using her ult like a sniper rifle in sg

[bitter estuary]

wait what the hell if i put 1, the dps is doubled, but if i put 3 in a row, it's..... only 25%?? wait huh (kabr 5*)

[bitter estuary]

lmao ig umeko has it's own jank

[karmic chasm]

I may not be able to clear expanse 36 (yet), but I’d like to say I have the drippiest Rossi on the server

[bitter estuary]

wait i tested 3 barriers again, dps percentage is higher than deploying just 1 now what

[karmic chasm]

Bro Kabr has been throwing crazy stuff for me too

[bitter estuary]

like he has his own issues which kabr 4* never had (outside of having low dmg output)

[echo horizon]

Hey, for jaren, which shotgun would be better, threat level or thermo

[bitter estuary]

thermopylae

threat level is worse than eternal retribution

[errant narwhal]

that stage is actual hell

[twilit thistle]

If I can get as far as i do with Estella on jarens side, you can clear it. Pay closer attention to the AI of the enemies. With all that, and facing the cracked ikora bots in sg, my reflexes have gone up by 100%

If you have a moment where you realize you were doing better earlier. Stop and come back the next day. It took me DAYS to get thru some of those. Thats why my completion times end up so high, im always on here chatting and dying in the background lol.

[simple plank]

It’s on Wolf’s auto

Wasn’t good on that idk how much different it’d be for a pulse

[echo horizon]

Well then how good is empty fort strategy

[bitter estuary]

Its why im just progressing expanse 31~40 slowly bc you cant just mentally handle all of em all in one go

[formal frost]

yay

[twilit thistle]

The more times u fail in one sitting, the more bad habits you form in one sitting.

[worldly hazel]

What level is your Tan

Yea bro. Whatever the hell that means 🔥🔥🔥

https://tenor.com/view/writing-fire-writing-on-fire-writing-water-fire-writing-water-writing-gif-7366435479761399531

[rotund flame]

Do get anything for doing the festival achievements?

[vocal mango]

Bruh that last gun i wanted

[karmic chasm]

I’m getting SO close. Need some luck and I’ll get through it. I have 2 more days on my title so ima give it a rest for now

I’m pretty sure calamity is not supposed to look like this 😃

I was the runner, the impact shinka breaker, and the boss dps

Yes, you read that right. Impact shinka breaker

[versed scroll]

The lore entries don't have cutscenes?

[cursive depot]

What is your power and setup for Estella? Can’t seem to break the impact on stage 36 with the mythic solar lmg

[vocal mango]

God roll finally

[vocal mango]

Why blur em, I wanna friend them to carry 😔

I kinda wanna spend my le tokens but I kinda don't want to cuz I know ima get kabr in around 3 more days

Is this lucky, on my first box

It was from a blue one too

[karmic chasm]

I guess I try not to make it personal. People are usually chill, just don’t know what to do is all.
I just helped a dude through master strikes. I don’t mind carrying when I signed up to carry lololol

[vocal mango]

Frfr

How tf do I beat level 4, ive tried max with a exotic it didn't work I tried the debuff with shield breaker didn't work

[torpid pawn]

Do yall know what time the crotas raid drops?

[exotic token]

Maybe a dumb question, the fair play modifier on crota says exotics will be limited to "catalyst node 1" . Does that mean "catalyst band 01" or the first exotic catalyst upgrade?

[tight talon]

First Catalyst

[thin valve]

Do you have stone hoofs star 2?

[floral abyss]

Please use #🎁│in-game-binding

[thin valve]

Does blast damage buff stone hoofs and direct damage buff anesthesia?

[indigo solar]

Yes

Fun fact: the game doesn't like rendering a bajillion polymer

[thin valve]

Thanks

[thin valve]

5 fps

[karmic chasm]

How do I jump to the crane in haven

Oh I gotta oob somewhere else first, darn

[thin valve]

@indigo solar also, if i get + % void damage, does stone hoofs do more damage to void shields or it does more damage in general?

[tight talon]

is that the game or just yk your 100mb or something graphics card xd

[indigo solar]

More in general

[indigo solar]

This is on my iPhone 14 lmao, it's the game

[tight talon]

xDD

[thin valve]

thanks again

[indigo solar]

Normally runs at 60fps for hours no issues

But yeah top 3 towers are definitely
Stone hoof
Anesthesia
Muqam

[thin valve]

Before wave 25 i use anesthesia x stone hoofs, after i get enough money, i just get whole map in stones

[scarlet knot]

Is there a good up to date spreadsheet for DR similar to Ageis spreadsheet for D2?

[tight torrent]

Is there a way to end an infinite multiplayer bulwark game if the other two people left.
The leave says you lose your rewards.

[thin valve]

Destroy your towers

[indigo solar]

Use Muqam and you can hit full hooves by round 4, or keep the Muqams a bit longer to have full max hooves at like round 18

[indigo solar]

No

[thin valve]

Hm sounds good, i have max hoofs at wave 25 with my setup

[indigo solar]

Oh wait single player? Yeah you can get max hooves at like 12 then

[thin valve]

yea single, max hooves at 12? damn

[indigo solar]

Muqam is crazy, 25% chance for 40 polymer with every shot and 200 rpm

Just don't buff its damage

[thin valve]

Whats ur placement setup for them

[haughty dragon]

I just beat all 9 levels with the blue 200 fire rate otter M08 and with helhest

[karmic chasm]

Ditched super boost on Rossi. Sitting at 75100 total power.

[haughty dragon]

Jesus, that take you like 100 levels to get lol I can barely fine 3/4

[karmic chasm]

I realized I had a 4/4 bellicose
waiting to be transferred, and so I opened two engrams for ring and got the 4/4 match. Idk how long I’d been sitting on it lol

[warm hinge]

Peepz.. i got a question, whats up with not playing the crota raid on a mobile game with mobile players?

[raw glade]

I can't find anyone to do a grandmaster with, damn

[karmic chasm]

GM what

[raw glade]

With an undercooked crimson, damnnnnnn

[stark forge]

signs of noob teammates

[karmic chasm]

That feeling when you know you’re gonna promote

And we did

[raw glade]

congrats brotha

[tight talon]

a cause its not gonna be ditto crota raid from D1&D2, b if it were it means phone players will be worser than the emu players

[karmic chasm]

Idk if this guy is in here, but he’s the 2nd best Jaren I’ve ever played with. And he’s not T6. Just wanted people to know his name

[versed scroll]

When is the continuation of the Xur in different moon story?

[raw glade]

Jaren is dope

[versed scroll]

When does his black outfit come in store?

[karmic chasm]

I’d been getting Jarens all day who wouldn’t break impacts. This guy was lightning fast on everything

[karmic chasm]

Sadly, it does not. Had to draw for it

[warm hinge]

So doesn't that kind of kills the point? They already mentioned its going to be a modified version of the original. Eclipse race was won by a bunch of ipad players on their lunch break. Playing a mobile game on an emulator is pretty much a coping mechanism

[raw glade]

well, you are definitely just hitting expert I....so yeah, i'd have expected that lol

[versed scroll]

He uses Prefect and ???

[raw glade]

Anything before expert is insanely low

[versed scroll]

But it'll be available soon, right?

[devout void]

i just loot anaestasia , should i just put it everywhere on the map ? still no hoof

[thin valve]

Anesthesia aint enough for a full clear

[stark forge]

anastasia muskrat and whatever turrets counter the modifier

[raw glade]

I told myself I wasn't going to spend on this game anymore, but the monthly blessing is just too good to pass up

[devout void]

this is the one i dont have

[warm hinge]

My go to.. anesthasia, double clap, muskrat and stone hoof

[devout void]

rip no muskrat no hoof

[stark forge]

its hard without muskrat

[thin valve]

So glad i have 3 star hoof

[thin valve]

Always buy that🙏

[karmic chasm]

Yea people are rough in these lower ranks

[karmic chasm]

Thermo I believe.

[versed scroll]

Thanks!

[raw glade]

Only spent $5 since I used all of my currency to get T6 Jaren, and I'm already back up to this:

With only the blessing and some patience, you can T6 a character like once every three months I think.

And being Master+ in calamity helps with leaves for sure

[tight talon]

Idk where this Ipad thing comes from, you sure? World's First were from EMEA

As for gaming on Emu, there's no elitism involved here. The majority of mobile players that this game is trying to target have never touched a mobile shooter before.

[raw glade]

Idk, it feels like you're the one coping in a way....finding a weird justification for why you think this game is flawed lol.

[tight talon]

Forget casting skills, keeping watch on timers in already cluttered mobile UI, that's secondary

[raw glade]

And it's just a way better experience on an emulator. Playing on my macbook feels as good as D2 on my Ps5. I wouldn't bother playing if I had to play mobile.

Before Jaren, I had no handconnons leveled. I'll be done soon

[vagrant plume]

Hi, I need a new pack… I am the last one who is doing something in pack hunt…

[royal stone]

you guys are so lucky you can play it on ur computer i ant because i dont know how to do it

[formal frost]

guys

[stark forge]

just play it on mobile its easier

[formal frost]

how many hours left before crota raid?

[raw glade]

You don't know how to use bluestacks or mumu?

[willow siren]

did they already give out the prizes for this?

[versed scroll]

CoC lezzgo!

[royal stone]

@raw glade no sir I sure don't never did either of them before

[runic coral]

nah this is bloons td6

[versed scroll]

Idk about meta towers. This was yesterday. 😔

[bitter estuary]

I haven't got it

I was like at 17th place

[dusty spire]

Team Titan 😁

[warm hinge]

RIP

[dusty spire]

So tempted 😅 to finish

[versed scroll]

Soon we'll have Sygna Suit Ikora. Nice!

[warm hinge]

What kind of flaw did I refer to?

[devout horizon]

Morning

[naive ingot]

I play on mobile, as I have no choice. But I do mirror it to a TV and use a controller.

[naive ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny2-titan-crayons-lightfall-did-someone-say-crayons-gif-27220146

[tight talon]

Yeah they can't enable Virtualization. Tried helping them with guides and stuff but dk what they are doing

[tight talon]

is okay. Main issue is mobile players who play on touch and never played a shooter before.

[naive ingot]

I haven't on mobile before so I used controller to start with. It's more comfortable for me using a controller.

[tight talon]

[raw glade]

Ohhh, that requires going into the bios. That can be a bit tricky

Does playcover work on windows?

Nvm, Mac only

[warm hinge]

U use play cover on mac?

[tight talon]

It's not that hard, just one of the F2, F10 or F12 keys. They weren't even entering bios cause of fear of bricking their system

[raw glade]

I don’t think that’s a thing

[raw glade]

Yes

[versed scroll]

Looks good on him, I guess. XD

[tight talon]

😭 huh. I have been a Windows user my entire life and literally all PCs with a motherboard get access to the bios when you keep pressing either of those keys on start up

[raw glade]

I meant the bricking the PC....

[frozen nimbus]

Thats the only decal that matters on him 😁👍🏼

[versed scroll]

He looks like a cool Gasoline Boy holding that Royal Contravene. XD

[vocal mango]

Tfs that, also if I dont have it how tf am I sup to pregress

[errant narwhal]

play lower levels and do challenges, it’s an exotic tower

[dusty spire]

So what do I do just lay hoofs everywhere?

lol definitely not tested we probably playing the beta rn anyways lol

Data harvesting gameplay then probably drop us a survey at some point

[errant narwhal]

you don’t have to even use hoofs, i got fairly high with anesthesia and the anti towers i needed

[stark forge]

hoof is bad in 3 man mode

[dusty spire]

Extremely true and if you really like the game I’d recommend to anyone to go for the smart spending option…it’s extremely simple, affordable for a gacha game.

I like a qualitative approach over quantitative.

[devout void]

so the meta change daily ? or today still hoof , i finally got anastasia and muskrat , then what else to be usefull in 3 man mode

[errant narwhal]

i kinda hate how they implemented the three man mode

should’ve just been one big track

[dusty spire]

Honestly I think it’s all just to get us into the game mode at a base standard, updates will make it better imo

[stark forge]

meta today is anastasia, muskrat and the 2 anti shield/invi tower

[errant narwhal]

more the layout than anything is what i have a problem with

[dusty spire]

I get this but I also like how it’s split and you manage your court but by using the portal you can assist each other

[errant narwhal]

can’t really assist later on tho

[dusty spire]

Otherwise longed ranged players will just sit in one area

[dusty spire]

Checks and balances should happen as we play and we provide data 📊

Attacking enemy may have been to much right now for some lol

[stark forge]

farming these tower will be meaningless by the end of next week, all towers level reset when season ends

[dusty spire]

Get them used to the map
And the utility

Then increase qol with attacking enemies
Encourage team play with leaderboards
Incentivise with decent cycle rewards

Then make it an official end game mode for the end game built characters as part of the end game reward loop for vested players

[devout void]

thank you, is it really matter where you put them ?

[thorny obsidian]

yeah and season wont end for another 40 days so upgrading towers aint meaningless next week 😅

[stark forge]

just plant 2 anti tower behind anastasia or near them so they can bypass shield/invi

[devout void]

ok thanks

[dusty spire]

Is there any point going to last stage?

[devout void]

its frustrating to open so much box and no hoof but fine i dont need it today

[dusty spire]

In b4 tower wishlist

[devout void]

we have a whishlist ?

[stark forge]

this mode the tower star upgrades are meaningless, u can clear anything with just 1 star towers

[tame ravine]

getting kicked from tower defence for "afk" is such ***
It's called tower defence for a reason - why do I need to move and shoot all the time xD

[versed scroll]

Yeah

[dusty spire]

Nope but maybe it should be a thing

[devout void]

ok ok

[keen briar]

Just took Rossi into expanse and I had hard realization just how weak he is

[devout void]

arbalest helhest is the best character of this game its crazy the dmg

[dusk socket]

necrochasm where?????????????

[thorny obsidian]

D2

[devout void]

sad they dont put black hammer/spindle, they are too scared of it, or even ice breaker , for necrochasm idk, the character that use an auto dont really shine now and the weapon was pretty "weak" but fun

[mystic hazel]

What time does the raid start?

[upbeat igloo]

I'm having really bad server issues and stability problems

It's not my phone it's a 2025 Motorola 5g phone

I'm constantly being booted out the servers

[soft bobcat]

Yeah Anesthesia carries hard all the way until wave 50 and probably much higher. Haven't been bored enough to go above 50 yet.

[dusk socket]

no, is from D1

it's signature weapon from raid, not the symmetry that appeared in a season pass
I hope at least we get the common weapon to turn into legendary and then exotic necrochasm

[thorny obsidian]

necro aint coming back

[sterile sigil]

Morning chat do we know exactly what time the Raid is dropping?

[soft bobcat]

#💭│main-chat message

[sterile sigil]

Tyty greg ❤️

[vocal mango]

Solo t9 lol

[random steeple]

Guys what time starts Crota?

[modest plume]

I thought it was tomorrow

[stark forge]

the day after tomorrow

[modest plume]

No it says the 3rd

[cyan tide]

In-game event says tomorrow at 9am est, discord event says 4th at 2am est
I'm more inclined to believe the in-game event but you do you

[hybrid holly]

What are you running? United Axion & Hawkeye? What stats?

[random steeple]

Well they also have 4-th at stream time of crota-end competion, but in game it's different and patch note is also 4-th
Who we can belive?

[dusty spire]

Ngl I got excited and still am 🥶

[thin valve]

40 pulls no kabyr

[dusty spire]

You’ll get him eventually

So ikora possibly next?

[lucid blade]

When is the raid?

[soft bobcat]

imo we're due for another Exo

[dusty spire]

This

[devout horizon]

Just build one

[errant narwhal]

any double mythic would make me happy, even tan

[thin valve]

No i dont want him🙏🙏 I more enjoy random rewards getting through pulls lol

[dusty spire]

Oh nice hope you get to want lol

[cyan tide]

We haven't had any limited exos, and only one limited awoken. It's pretty much only been human characters

[thin valve]

Yall is attal worth investing? Have bunch of materials laying around

[dusty spire]

If you need to clear content why not, if it don’t clear content I’d hoard it

[devout horizon]

She’s fun

[dusty spire]

Until you reach that point where you can start thickening your pool

[celest violet]

THIS is the most garbage mechanic in the game..

[vapid ibex]

7 am - 8am PST

Minutes are bugged, could be 59 minutes for all we know

[celest violet]

Plus it's tomorrow.

[vapid ibex]

There’s an in game timer either way

[celest violet]

reading is a weird skill I guess

[versed scroll]

Best Arti Build for Kabr-R?

[stark forge]

does this crota raid have unstuck strat ?

[devout void]

Yes

[novel quest]

Ah yes reading, crazy how if you look at #📅│event-news or the patch notes every single one of them says different times lmfao - one of them is 2am est 😭

[devout void]

For skip bridge

Tbh it's not clear yes the timer are different everywhere

[novel quest]

Maybe for speeds but wf attempts if you use anything like that you'll be dqualed

[stark forge]

how do u get dq for using a feature built in the game

[devout void]

Its ok i dont do wf

[celest violet]

it is crazy, cuz people still won't read ANY of it...what's your point?

[devout void]

Interesting question

[celest violet]

says the same time frame for me...seems liek bs to me

[novel quest]

your acting like the time is obvious. But it's not because it's incorrect every place it was listed last time. You clearly can't even ready because you'd notice it says "three day event" but the date is from 1/3-1/4 on the actual infographic lmao

Also, this is est btw lol

[devout void]

3 day

[stark forge]

ppl forgot there are timezones

[sharp talon]

why are the dates a mess? them pushing back the season 2 days i guess?

[naive hare]

is the hard mode raid anti whale again?

[soft bobcat]

I think that means it starts on 1/3 or 1/4 time zone depending. Not that it goes from 1/3 to 1/4. But yea definitely could have been more clearly communicated

[novel quest]

Discord goes off UTC and auto translates the time into your time zone, in game has an actual countdown. And then the patch notes have it in utc as well

[cyan tide]

It has fair play, yes

[novel quest]

The thing I took the screenshot from is a calendar that's 100% the days

[devout void]

Yes

[stark forge]

need a team so bad for that shiny emblem

[celest violet]

What an annoying little weeb

[novel quest]

https://tenor.com/view/btweers-treyreloaded-gif-9828766681290374907

[cyan tide]

You need to chill and accept that it's unclear and it could start in 24 or 40 hours

[proud meadow]

anyone knows if the 4 slot new kabr artifact applies when using super?

[novel quest]

I think he's gonna get worlds first tbh. He has info we dont, clearly

[proud meadow]

is his super considered a barrier?

[novel quest]

I'd assume so

His barrier counts as a summon as well, so rampaging and stuff works

[proud meadow]

trying to figure which 3 and 4 makes the most use with double super boost on them, for overall dmg not only weapons

[soft bobcat]

According to this it seems it does #💭│main-chat message

[proud meadow]

also vulnerability would makes some use for his t1 and arbalest dmg reduction catalyst

[stark forge]

rampaging pact and plasma slot 4

[proud meadow]

but not bis i guess

does his ult ignore servitor’s invulnerability as some people say?

[novel quest]

I think rampaging is spot 3 no? And that would be BIS for slot 3

[devout void]

Passionate player*

[sharp grove]

Ohio

[random steeple]

they have different time in patch note, so yeah it's weird skill bro

[teal spoke]

Des fr?

[random steeple]

i hope they would lock unstuck for raid otherwise it would be challenge "who better find minor exploits"

[devout void]

Exploit never stay hidden for so long if we notice a weird score

[random steeple]

yeah and time in discord and in countrdown is different)

[mental dagger]

do hoof auras stack for other towers

[novel quest]

Yes

[random steeple]

absolutely true after 1 hour of suffering, think same way
u just need to be prepared for both options

[chrome onyx]

Wtf

[vast arch]

👀

[worn meadow]

Yo

Anyone know the time on when exactly the crota onslaught is releasing?

[thorny obsidian]

can we not pin a time thing at top of this chat or something

thats 50 people asking in like an hour for the time LOL

[vast arch]

I would but I’m not clear on the time and don’t want to pin something that is wrong

[thorny obsidian]

does netease even know the time? XD

[quasi plume]

today tower defence is endless, im at 43th wave and just stood there for almost 20 waves now lol

[rotund flame]

I agree, very possible that you will get t6 before completing the cards lol

[cyan tide]

Isn't there a way to get the fragments you need after getting T6? Seems like that's the intended way of completing the cards

[celest violet]

gotta wonder if they'll keep the extra card pulls in the Rising pulls...

if they could clarify that, it would help em decide whether to kerp going..cuz i only want the ghost..but dang dude..

[novel quest]

It ends at wave 99

[celest violet]

you can't jsut stand around, itll kick you

[thorny obsidian]

and no rewards after wave 15

[vast arch]

In solo you can

[celest violet]

O.o first day it kept telling em to move..if they chanegd it fresh

[vast arch]

I did it for almost an hour last night without touching the mouse

[quasi plume]

im just goin goto let it die and go afk lol

[sharp talon]

you can afk in a 3 player premade but not matchmaking

[vast arch]

Literally went into the other room and ate dinner lol

[rotund flame]

Once you get stone hoof it becomes easy, plus anesthesia for bosses

[celest violet]

thats wonderful to find out...cuz my puppy needs potty break at some of the worst times. I can't time it right

just wanna get 15 done for the week. Stone hoof and what for teh day..? Hoof finally dropepd this morning, so im excited to get it done

[thorny obsidian]

need 2* hoof tho

[celest violet]

got it! got a lucky draw on teh same pull

I want to make a few guides on placement...but I know there are infographic creators that are mroe suited for it

[rotund flame]

Really? I did it at base lv just fine. The double laser upgrade you get during playing helped a ton as well. For anesthesia btw

[soft bobcat]

2* buff is pretty insane and it stacks for every stone hoof that you have

[thorny obsidian]

you can indeed do fine. but it so much easier with this

[winged lintel]

Is there a way to farm tower defense for chests without pinnacle?

[rotund flame]

Now i wish i could pass Co op. My randoms are kinda not used to tower defense games and quickly get overwhelmed lol

[barren phoenix]

What benefit is there in going past lvl 15 for balwurt endless?

[thorny obsidian]

basic reward. wipe when round 16 starts and repeat

[thorny obsidian]

flex

[winged lintel]

Is this actually worth it? What yields are we talking?

[barren phoenix]

lol damn that sucks,

[thin valve]

I have a lot of mats tbh and wanna know how she performs for example in expanse activities cus i dont have hh and rossi is just meh

[thorny obsidian]

51 % on a chest to drop 1 cache, and you get 5 chests when you finish 15

[vast arch]

Someone should test whether it is better to go to round 16 or just reset after earning 1 or 2 chests

[barren phoenix]

Just get to lvl 16 and you good, anesthesia is the only tower you need outside of SH

[thin valve]

You mean by time?

[vast arch]

Yeah, for time efficiency

Also effort

[thorny obsidian]

once you setup your things around wave 7 or 8 then its just chilling

[rotund flame]

On solo it's easy since you can carry yourself. On co op you have to get lucky and hope your randoms know what they are doing lol 🗿

[devout void]

its it a know bug for infinite ammo ? @indigo solar

[thorny obsidian]

first rounds are actually running around and stuff

[thin valve]

Idk i have whole map with sh at wave 7 and then its just + 10min afk for all chests

[barren phoenix]

I had one random quit on us and it was 2 peeps from the get go we got to lvl 23 with anesthesia combo

[barren phoenix]

The game kicks you if you afk

[vapid ibex]

4 copies for free is crazy

[barren phoenix]

How did you get the missions so fast???

[rotund flame]

I refuse to believe, simply because it makes me sad because my luck is non existent lol

[thin valve]

Not in solo, stay as much as u want

[vapid vine]

🫡

[barren phoenix]

Gottcha

[devout void]

the title is so cool

[thin valve]

Too bad everyone gonna get it lol

[barren phoenix]

How the heck did you get all free 60 pulls that fast? I’m stuck on my 30th free pull

[devout void]

like almost all the title yes

[barren phoenix]

I’m f2p so I guess that make sense

[devout void]

same i have like 30 boat, and i will keep them

[thin valve]

I mean it takes no skill. They should make a title for defending a certain wave but fix sh strategy

[barren phoenix]

Also is mythic kabar actually worth it? He seems underwhelming and I might save pulls for next hero

[rotund flame]

I think besides using energy and doing daily missions. The rest of the pulls come from lv up the character and getting him built

[devout void]

maybe, i dont think something take skill in this game if you have character/gear ready, even for that someone will share a video and everyone that care the title will copy the strat

[thin valve]

Individual element pool for everyone🙏

[vapid vine]

[rotund flame]

Meanwhile everyone rocking the protagonist title 😂

[devout void]

the only '"skill" title are from contest and netease delete them in 14 days so

[vast arch]

you already have 4? I'm at 20 to pity and still have 0 lmao

[devout void]

i miss this one, it's interesting to create limited-time events but your title gets deleted

[thin valve]

This crota banner will be permanent right?

[true mauve]

Hoarded Pinnacle before event dropped

[novel quest]

Real, there's not even anywhere to go back and view the leaderboard that I've seen

all that effort for not. At least I can see my time on the emblem. Rank #2 ww baby

[vast arch]

that would have been cool if we had that LB in game still or like online or something

[vapid vine]

💯

[rotund flame]

I did that and only managed to get around 40 pulls on day 1. Sadly have to wait around a week for the rest of the missions. Daily missions suck because you have to wait and you need a ton

[thorny obsidian]

101

[devout void]

crazy

[devout void]

they are too poor, they also delete leaderboard from early calam' season

start from season 5

[lucid blade]

What time will the raid be available?

[thin valve]

Got ning again🙏🙏

[novel quest]

https://tenor.com/view/lonely-sorrow-pain-depressed-crying-gif-5879583713056722501

[devout void]

for solo you really need shield/invis or you can just bypass by spam anastasia, hoof

[harsh berry]

Happy raid day franz, i forgot to set up a team this week

Oh thats tomorrow no

[quasi plume]

well im stopping at wave 61 lol

[vapid vine]

🥶

[barren phoenix]

I have every tower expect Stone Hoof… and I can’t get more advance chests… am I stuck??

[sharp talon]

you can get it from normal chests

[barren phoenix]

You can??

[sharp talon]

and eventually pity for the better chest i thinnk

[thin valve]

I got all my copies from normal chests

[barren phoenix]

I don’t have pinn

[sharp talon]

basic rewards are enough

[barren phoenix]

But I guess ill grind

[karmic chasm]

Good morning gamers

[soft bobcat]

Finally a lucky group of randos

[devout void]

love when the hub disapear

[vapid ibex]

You get 20 just for getting a copy for each tier so it played into it

[old pond]

.

[next ravine]

How u find raid teams?

[vapid ibex]

In LFG but everyone probably has a team by now

[sharp talon]

damn master 1 matchmaking is a struggle no one queues 😭

[vapid vine]

😱

[vast arch]

Fun fact: Even if you saved all of your pinnacle to spend in S3 you can only get 40 Resolute Charms before hitting the time gate and being forced to wait for bounty refreshes

[white fossil]

oob fun

[maiden marsh]

Tbh in game or through here

[true mauve]

Shoulda saved some overflow pinnacle from Pandoras Deala

[next ravine]

Majority of this game I have found is full of dead content unless you find a team of people to play with

[twilit thistle]

👀 I’m glad to see the crota timer is no longer truncated.

[true mauve]

Because sadly people cant rely on random matchmaking. Competitive team based game, you need a team not some strangers you just met. All leaderboard team games deal with this 😭

[scenic wigeon]

That's what destiny suffers from... so much content spread out that the playerbase can't possibly fill it

[true mauve]

It forces you to run solo content or find a pack and hoooope they need a fill in because peoples teams are pretty concrete. They like running with same people.

[scenic wigeon]

Then you have some modes that are unnaturally hard if not in a co-ordinated team

[true mauve]

Or if people arnt fully built. If raids like Crota can have casual and sweat mode then Cal Ops should also. Raise min power to 72k for sweat CO

[scenic wigeon]

I yearn for it, I wana make some of the ghosts from rising

[karmic chasm]

Ignore slot one but yea. Finally replaced super boost with arc since Issakis bug is gone.

[scenic wigeon]

I lhave no clue how the artifacts really work...

I just put the most powerful one on

And hope for the best

[vocal mango]

I think reading would help

[finite gazelle]

If I'm using contravene on kabr does the burst only benefit from weapon mastery on 1 hit of the burst

[vocal mango]

You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

[true mauve]

I been trying for 2 months to get them stats. I keep getting wpn/ability/arc/super. Those are 🔥 you are truly #1 Rossi

[karmic chasm]

Artifacts are basically Rising’s armor pieces.
They have a basic effect which can be upgraded to tier 10.
Then, they have 4 substats (if exotic). These substats effect basic boost like weapon damage, shield, recovery, etc. when the artifact drops, it will have 4 random substats, and also a random level for those substats, ranging from 1-10, although I’ve never seen a single substat roll that low or high.
Artifact 1 and 2 will have defensive substats. Artifact 3 and 4 will have offensive substats.
Your goal is to get artifacts that have a good effect for your character, and have recommended substats that also match the other defensive or offensive artifact respectively. You will see recommended substats as a silver or gold thumb.

TLDR: go back and read it, I can’t tldr this info lol

[vocal mango]

They ain't reading all at

[karmic chasm]

Thank you man. I want you up there with me 🙏

[true mauve]

Yes, it has a cooldown of 1 sec iirc read weapon mastery for specifics

[karmic chasm]

Neither would I lmfao

[devout void]

Good player attract good player, matchmaking will be a waste of your time after master

[finite gazelle]

Welp guess I'm using end of the line

Gotta get hella mobius clusters though that'll take a while

[quaint orbit]

I was able to reach promo zone of master 1 with matchmaking 🤔

[vocal mango]

Btw arbalest outdps any lfr

[dusty spire]

Players skip this

[karmic chasm]

Also super is not bad tbh, it’s just he doesn’t get it often enough for it to be useful like it might be on Chad Kabr. Although even on him I probably won’t do super boost. Not sure.
For example if where it’s ok, in the current calamity, tier 10 super boost guarantees Rossi can wipe 3 of those 6 servitors when they finish spawning around the boss. Idk if I can do that now in expert.

[twilit thistle]

Everybody is confused on when crota starts still. Shocked nobody resolved that 😂

[vocal mango]

Yea super is useful for pumps like jaren and est

[vocal mango]

Just look ingame gawdamn

[karmic chasm]

I can’t even play it tomorrow regardless so

[white fossil]

as far as im concerned it starts tomorrow 🙏

[twilit thistle]

The sheer volume of DMs about it. 😭

[vocal mango]

Almost exactly tomorrow

[white fossil]

i cant wait to die 500 times in my first run fr

[vocal mango]

Also we survived the first day of 2026! May we all survive the 2nd!

[karmic chasm]

First day was peak for me. Hit perfect stats on my offensive slots and finally promoted in calamity

[vocal mango]

Im talking irl lmao

[twilit thistle]

Kinda scummy of netease to skip fixing the in game timer tho, or providing any resolution on it 😂 idk what to tell all these ppl

[karmic chasm]

Obviously 😭

[vocal mango]

Is bros life only dr

[karmic chasm]

Irl I had pizza sooo

[empty kettle]

We are 100% getting jinxed

[scenic wigeon]

I was so close to winning untill she pulled this

[karmic chasm]

[vocal mango]

I feel like everyone had pizza, i did all my friends did, all my online friends did, its like a pizza year or smt

[vast arch]

I still have blue pinnacle, it's literally not possible without spending

[karmic chasm]

I know someone who has pizza every other day I swear

[devout void]

Gg, but cant happen this cycle after reset or zone 1 when the score are too high

[vocal mango]

Also should I invest in rossi even though ima bouta get kabr soon, and that I alr have max attal

[karmic chasm]

I may or may not have purchased Lumia to purchase pinnacle to get more refracts yesterday

[scenic wigeon]

Current pulse rifle on estella, can be a 44rnd mag, or a 62rnd mag... its random

[karmic chasm]

Some people are saying Rossi is just as good if not better. I can’t see that being true given the LFR, but Mahamayuri still packs a punch.
What talent do you have Rossi at?

[vocal mango]

2 prob, im a f2p

[scenic wigeon]

Is it possible to get estela to 63k power without any talent orbs

[empty kettle]

Talent doesn't give any power

[scenic wigeon]

O

[karmic chasm]

Are you pulling on Kabr’s banner? If you can hit T4 on Rossi, he becomes very worth it

[vocal mango]

I have like 40 pulls and didn't get no rossi

Also funny cuz my English name is Ross

[empty kettle]

I need one more Rossi-11 copy to t6 him

[white fossil]

i got my rossi to t6 yesterday finally

[serene ingot]

only reason im summoning on kabr banner is rossi copies need 1 more for t5

[vocal mango]

Should I save my 12 current le pulls

[karmic chasm]

Ok well, his stopping points imo are like 2, 4, 5, 6, 1, 3
In terms of how important his talents are. So if you plan to be f2p forever, t2 is good because he’s a team player

[serene ingot]

yes don't spend le pulls on kabr he will become permanent

[vocal mango]

Anyone have any idea who's next

[white fossil]

optimus prime

[vocal mango]

Siiiiiick

[karmic chasm]

👀
For people like me this was a Rossi banner

[white fossil]

one shall stand (prime), one shall fall (crota) 🙏

[vocal mango]

Btw stasis leaked, coming in 4 months

[karmic chasm]

What

[serene ingot]

yep well wouldn't have minded kabr t1 but 30 pulls in with nothing i don't think thats happening

[karmic chasm]

No

[vocal mango]

So maybe a stasis titan since we don't got many good titans

[karmic chasm]

Where was it leaked. Stasis makes absolutely 0 sense rn given the pace of the story

[soft bobcat]

All Stone Hoof guy struggling with bosses. Gotta have those xl-61'S

[vocal mango]

I mean its like 2 or 3 seasons more

[twilit thistle]

😭is it at 9am or 1am

[karmic chasm]

But we haven’t even gone to space yet 😭
And we still won’t with IX Crota

[scenic wigeon]

I hate that the only way to get a talent orb for estela as of right now is to buy bundles from pandora

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-raiden-senator-armstrong-source-gif-25038929

[vocal mango]

Idk bro who knows maybe it'll come to us like it did to others

[serene ingot]

theres a talent orb there now?

[karmic chasm]

I was kinda hoping it would be several years before stasis or strand.
Also Rossi would definitely use strand if we had it

[scenic wigeon]

Buy 24 bundles, get it as a reward

[serene ingot]

L

[cyan tide]

Helhest wants weapon, arc, ability, damage bonus as attributes, right?

[scenic wigeon]

Xun Wei is the closest to strand we have rn

[karmic chasm]

Ion know

[vocal mango]

Rossi could be like titan prismatic grenade strand suspend with jolt

[karmic chasm]

Yea he’s a mix

[empty kettle]

Where was it leaked?

[scenic wigeon]

Strand in rising seems to be a mix of void x arc

[vocal mango]

She wants everything, she's hungry af, all the time

[vocal mango]

Are you ok...

[karmic chasm]

He’s right tho

[vocal mango]

🔨

[scenic wigeon]

Xun Wei and rossi have strand like ability

[serene ingot]

thats what im going for at least think super might not be too bad but prob not bis

[scenic wigeon]

With the binding and grappling hook they use to pull enimies

Makes just enough sense to me

[karmic chasm]

And then Rossi hits them with the one two stasis knives and screws off

He’s so badass it’s ridiculous

[pulsar coral]

Happy new years you filthy animals

[vocal mango]

And then adds a radiant dodge with some siva cluster bombs and disappears into a bunch of nanites

[scenic wigeon]

I wana eat what this is named after

[cyan tide]

I was thinking super or ability, but ability is up way more often so I don't think super can compete. But I'd be fine with either

[scenic wigeon]

Someone... find an eliksni cookbook

[serene ingot]

i got these 2 so prob just gonna roll signature boost and call it a day

unless solar rolls in to dmg bonus boost first

[twilit thistle]

this even differs from in game event start

[cyan tide]

She doesn't really benefit from signature at all afaik

[serene ingot]

doesn't salvo dmg increase? and healing from drones etc