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[devout void]

same i just did it

[karmic chasm]

The thing that would make new Kabr A tier for me would be overshield generation from his shields being hit. Basically make him more similar to Maru.
I know have my own overshield generation with conversion, but that’s not enough.

@true mauve this one, I think you saw it already

Wait I just noticed I’m getting overshield from the laser too. What am I missing

I’m using nourishing pact, so the shields should proc healing, but not the laser

Ahhh that’s why. It’s the blind yea. So basically I can get full overshield if I throw down 2 barriers and then blast a few enemies with the laser

Due to conversion

Let me go test it directly

It’s not working

I’m actually baffled at what might have been going on in that video

[burnt tendon]

I got Kabr to x3 on the dupe system 🔥

[scenic wigeon]

Just found out I have to buy 24 bundles to get 1 orb of light for estela... :( all cuz I didn't draw for her for more crystals when her draw pool was still in game

[devout void]

can someone give me a meta please until i have all the best thing to grind the level

[lyric skiff]

And hoof basically

Record is 31 waves in 3 player with tht setup

My base was entirely afk at end i was helping others for 10 waves

[sharp talon]

why not just spam hoof

[lyric skiff]

Cuz its worse

[devout void]

ok thanks, because i dont have hoof

[sharp talon]

you dont have two star hoof?

[lyric skiff]

Bro did all hoofs n i had to help him with boss

[lyric skiff]

Idk what star i have tbh 😂

[winged lintel]

i still haven't heard of any new secret triumphs popping for people.....they must all be about crota

[sharp talon]

or all hoof and super buffed anesthesia

[sharp talon]

hoof becomes broken at two stars

[indigo solar]

Stone hoof is the best by far (at t2). Until you get it, use anesthesia. Until you get anesthesia, use long nail + acute field + whatever you need to counter the rotating modifier

[lyric skiff]

All hoof is bad, the bosses just walk past i watched it happem

[sharp talon]

yeah i think u have first star hoof. it sucks

[indigo solar]

Yep, two stars is where it becomes strong bc the aura buffs stack

[lyric skiff]

Its still objectively worse to spam all of 1 type

[sharp talon]

all the stone hoofs buff each other tho

[lyric skiff]

Tower defense is about diversity

[sharp talon]

yesterday i was destroying everything with stone hoofs

[lyric skiff]

Bro i watched the enemies walk past 10 of them its just bad 😂i had to help him

While my base was entirely afk???

[sharp talon]

ur teammate mustve had one star hoof

[violet sonnet]

that smells like someone did just buy stonehoofs and never upgraded them

[stark forge]

anesthesia cant even shoot red bar for me

[lyric skiff]

I cant speak for him

[sharp talon]

all 2 star stonehoof it just doesnt die even at 99 i think

[violet sonnet]

cause like if all you do is spam stonehoof at lvl 1 yeah your gona fail

[lyric skiff]

U still gotta get to tht amount of money too its objectively worse.imo

[sharp talon]

i dont think any other tower can solo afk to 99

[lyric skiff]

They let all the enemies hit base my run was flawless

[violet sonnet]

It does like what 900 DMG at LvL 1 compared to 3000/8000 at LvL 2/3

[vast arch]

tbf you don't know how many copies or if he upgraded

[lyric skiff]

These 2 do same dmg

Fire rate+dmg per shot=><

[violet sonnet]

Stonehoof is broken cause it does a Ton of DMG at LvL 3, counters pretty much everything and at 2* it also just buffs

[violet sonnet]

AOE DMG vs ST sooo no Stonehoof does more

[sharp talon]

when ur map is full of stone hoof 2*, all stone hoofs buff each other which is broken

[lyric skiff]

Seems unrealistic to afford 15 of em 😂

[violet sonnet]

You have to get like to what Wave 10 and then the Game plays itself

[lyric skiff]

31 waves i had 300k in bank, plus what i spent those dudes had half a board n lost

[vast arch]

This is why stone hoof is broken

[lyric skiff]

Tht applies to all towers n doesnt say if it stacks

[sharp talon]

it does thats why its broken lmfao

[lyric skiff]

So it buffs the other towers too tho?

[vast arch]

it buffs all towers in the radius

[summer kite]

YAY, the "free" pulls from monthly shop reset got me Tan-2 and now he is T3 😄

[sharp talon]

yes you can superbuff a tower as well

[vast arch]

and they stack

[lyric skiff]

Id like to see the diff between 1,2,3 nearby if u have proof

I dnt think tht wud stack tbh

[sharp talon]

dude a two star stone hoof buffed by a map of stone hoof can have the range of the whole map

[winged lintel]

anybod have a 4 star tower yet?

[lyric skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[violet sonnet]

This is from yesterday

[karmic chasm]

I didn’t check, but even if I did, I just tried it again and it didn’t work

[lyric skiff]

Thts not covering the whole map 🤣

[violet sonnet]

Yes it is?

[lyric skiff]

One shot covers small area x10 isnt covering all map 1 tower havimg range to hit everywhere is wdym?

[karmic chasm]

Steve and the other Steve poppin off

Not really, I just tanked everything

[lyric skiff]

If they give +15 range n u have 10 nearby the hitbox shud be the entire map it buffs x1 obv

N doesnt stack

[violet sonnet]

Yeah not 1 Tower but you have so much Coverage it doesnt matter given that the DMG is stupidly high

[lyric skiff]

I get the same with mixed towers i just dont see it 😂pure cheese nothing more

[rain condor]

Stone hoof is going to get nerfed I can see it coming

[violet sonnet]

Cool then go Round 99 with ST

[karmic chasm]

@true mauve same EXACT artifact setup. Not working. Is there a gift of the IX that gives overshield? Or possible procs conversion?

[sharp talon]

its definitely gonna get nerfed so thats why im enjoying it rn

[violet sonnet]

When Red Bars cant even be killed by yourself anymore cause their Health is bloated to the Moon

Like ST can be good early Game but the further you go the more it bloats EVERYONES HP so eventually if you dont output a ton of AoE you will lose to Shanks/Hounds/whatever the Hive Mob

[lyric skiff]

If it wudnt take 60 hours sure 😂i got to 40 n im happy

[karmic chasm]

Forgot I had him close to gold today

[violet sonnet]

Like i stopped at 69 cause funny Number (and no Point going beyond 15 tbh) and i couldnt burst down a Hound with T6 Hellhest

Like those Dogs where just that CHUNKY

[thin valve]

main thing is that he is bad

[lyric skiff]

66k estella doing 200 per shot 1700 per grenade on round 40 it gets boring 😂

[karmic chasm]

I agree. Too bad he’s fun.

It’s the same issue I have with Rossi

[lyric skiff]

I prefer the 3 man map to the solo 1 but other players r a letdown 😂

Spent more time covering their base than i did my own

[violet sonnet]

The Mode came out this Week

Ressources/Knowledge isnt widely known yet,etc

[thorny frost]

2 towers vs a ton of towers + 30% boost. The range increase is definitely more drastic then a 45% increase

[lyric skiff]

Took all of what 1 or 2 match to figure it all out

[karmic chasm]

I’m gonna figure out exactly how much of it I need to play for rewards and the seal. Then I’m out 😭

[violet sonnet]

Also some People have never played TD before so they might just not make great Loadouts

[lyric skiff]

Thank you. The range is bigger than the effect ,now its clear

[violet sonnet]

Meanwhile im just out here lazymaxxing this Mode

[lyric skiff]

The game literally tells u what tower to use😂

What more can u ask for ?

[violet sonnet]

It tells you what to use to counter Stuff but not what else to pick

[lyric skiff]

Counter stuffx2,ramping dmg, hoof

[violet sonnet]

And some People will be to lazy to read and just try Towers

And you cant assume everyone has Hoof

[thorny frost]

This I am not sure on, but I think the range buff is for attacks and not auras. So each tower tends to only have like… 6 or so towers buffing it at any given time.

[lyric skiff]

If u play the mode u will 😂

[violet sonnet]

Im still missing 1 Exotic Tower after i got every Weekly and hit max Lvl Cap for the Week

[lyric skiff]

U get infinite chests wdym dnt have 😂

[lyric skiff]

I had 30/30 day 1 in 10 matches

[violet sonnet]

Ahh yes cause everyone will love to play a boring Mode for Chests when they dont get anything else

[indigo solar]

Stone hoof alone clears to 99, no other towers needed

[lyric skiff]

But its fair to assume everyone CAN have it

[lyric skiff]

Tell tht to my teammates 😭

[indigo solar]

The visual doesn't line up with the damage

[lyric skiff]

Yea i was shown ty

[karmic chasm]

Someone needs to convince me to play this mode 😭

[lyric skiff]

Dnt 😂download a td game

[karmic chasm]

I really thought it would be like Helldivers tower defense mode. 😔

[vast arch]

That's incredible luck, I'm still missing 3 towers and I played all day the day it released

[thorny frost]

I enjoyed it… till hoof basically made it to easy XD but they will need to add more maps at times too. It is something amusing and not a try hard mode on the side.

[lyric skiff]

I had 27/30 after just solo n 1 round of 3player

[karmic chasm]

I got a new high score on calamity with randoms. Still in the promo zone tho :/

[vast arch]

like I said, incredible luck 🤣

[winged lintel]

i'm at 28/30, is the secret just playing endless and repeating?

[lyric skiff]

My gatcha luck is unmatched

[silver hazel]

Has the launch time for Crota's end been posted? I know it's Jan 3rd but wanted to double check the time.

[violet sonnet]

Bulwark Mode if it was good

[lyric skiff]

15 waves repeat pretty much solo is easier

[violet sonnet]

You either go 30 Waves in Endless if your Lazy or if you want max Rewards you do 15 twice on Endless

[lyric skiff]

U still get chests for doing after weeklies

50% chance on no pinnacle for 1, or 1-2 with pinnacle

[winged lintel]

i guess it makes sense to farm it that way, especially since we need a 4 star tower for the seasonal title

[violet sonnet]

Welp i think i found the perfect AFK Setup

Ends Wave 3 with just 1 Life left

[vast arch]

AFK for chest farming?

[violet sonnet]

NVM it cant fail earlier then any other Setup
Still needs the Servitors to fail

[violet sonnet]

yes

its like 30 sec setup for 1 chest

[indigo solar]

No difference between 1 left and like 12

[violet sonnet]

well technically if you could die right at wave 4 start it be better

But since it needs Servitors the only minmax you could do is reduce it to 1 Tower which i dont think is possible

[indigo solar]

6 is more efficient

Less menu time

[violet sonnet]

I dont think with my Towers its currently possible to do Wave 6 afk

Like you simply cant get enough DMG with your 8k Starting Budget to deal with the Servitors

[vast arch]

Feels like we need a bulwark ops strategies channel

[violet sonnet]

All i do now is place 2 Towers and go back to playing my other Game

Could maybe do 1 Tower with 3* Stone Hoof

[tight talon]

You can make a semi afk setup, upto wave 12 fail but that requires you to skip timers for wave 1 and 2. And use that extra polymer to basically set up Anastesia and Salsa everywhere with Sash.

Not a true afk in the sense, but hey this setups in less than a min

[violet sonnet]

Dont you take like 2 Min for the 2 Waves

[tight talon]

You can literally start Wave 1 the min you load in with Skip

[violet sonnet]

Yeah oomfie but you still play 2 Waves thats still Time

[tight talon]

And Wave two in like 35 secs.

That's still cumulatively a 2 min setup while ignoring any forced chip decryption

[violet sonnet]

Like it is more Loot but it requires more Attention then like placing 2 Towers and going back to what your doing

[tight talon]

Cause majority of the time you will spend placing towers not dealing with the waves nor extra buffs that chip decryption gives

[violet sonnet]

Like i take like 5 Sec to setup for 1 Chest

if i have pinnacle sure but i aint doing all that for basic rewards

[tight talon]

What's better 5 sec 1 chest or 2 mins 4 chests

Calculating the load in, load out times as well

[violet sonnet]

So even with Load Times you get maybe 1 extra Chest

[tight talon]

🥀 I rather just play the mode cause it's nice brain switch off the moment all 14 towers are occupied.

[violet sonnet]

i mean im just doing this while playing other games

[tight talon]

Didn't even realised I cleared wave 17 before switching to something else

[violet sonnet]

like i literally did my prev setup which is 4 towers while playing a rated BG in wow

[tight talon]

[violet sonnet]

Can't do that when it takes 2 Min to setup, you see what i mean

Like yours is overall more "efficent" for Chests but its less ideal if your otherwise occupied

[tight talon]

I mean I play games like it's my second job or let it play while I am reading something else

[violet sonnet]

Yes im aware that your j*bless (so technically speaking you play it like your first job)

[tight talon]

I am never gonna be a Necktie

[hard forge]

Is the plasma set good for kabr?

[rain condor]

I’m personally going to do a lot of grinding to get my towers up today I got nothing better to do

[hard forge]

Also more importantly is this a must have for him

[hard forge]

I can’t get into games that play them selves, like the auto leveling ones or the mobile mmos that u can auto raid or auto quest

Heck I don’t even like using auto run in all reality

[summer ledge]

Did we ever confirm if barriers were summons or not?

[hard forge]

Yes they are

[summer ledge]

Rampaging Pact it is.

[tight talon]

Not all pieces, only IV

[vast arch]

Show me someone with worse luck

only using my free pulls btw

[summer ledge]

Tinker setup I have been using is Warding and Rampaging Pact for 1/3, Unrelenting Evolution, and 4 slot Plasma.

[tight talon]

Majority of mobile market does saturate that genre. Unless it's something like Candy Crush or someone that live streams gaming as a career.

[tight talon]

I am right there with you bud

[hard forge]

Ok cool , forsaken what do u use for the other 3 just curious

[tight talon]

Never in my entire life I felt this much of a call from the ancestors to just give up and gamble 10 pulls for a copy

[vast arch]

I only want one copy 😭

[tight talon]

Same

[tight talon]

I don't have Kabr, but best thing you can use is 2 Summon Artifacts and rest 2 of your choices

Like Warding Pact
Rampaging Pact is a given.

Then you can slide in Inspiring Plasma from IV
And II can be Healing Plasma

II can also prolly be replaced

[white fossil]

well, after all 60 free pulls for the new kabr i got him to t2 and got the illustration for his transmat effect, and i got rossi to t6 as well, pretty fire 🙏

[tight talon]

With Binging Planetismal

@vast arch one up

Yes I spent 1800 leaves

[vast arch]

https://tenor.com/view/ricolino-scolari-gif-12061360726599077047

[tight talon]

Atleast Rossi will be T6 and I can finally build him

[karmic chasm]

I hit my goal of T3 Kabr. Will probably save everything else from now on.

[barren phoenix]

What artifacts for Ning?

This what is on my wish list
Nourishing pact. unrelenting evolution, rampaging pact, valiant veil….

What would yall change??

[oak temple]

check out the top ning players in the game

[past hamlet]

There is 15 level cap at the moment in Bulwark?

[barren phoenix]

Where do I go to see that?

[barren phoenix]

Weekly you can only lvl up so much. So next week the cap is reset

[oak temple]

I just got 4 exotic artifacts out of 60 stam in expanse. I thought the game was broken for a moment.

[tight talon]

Well 😭 took me to full 60 with pulls and then another 10

[oak temple]

leaderboard for expanse or calamity

[worldly hazel]

Hey guys it’s been a year since we last talked. How you been? (Sorry for the dad joke, I’m getting old)

[karmic chasm]

Were they good

[eager holly]

so i talked to radegast after meeting xur and like what do i do now? do i wait for more of the story to come or do i have to complete every solo round of bulwark?

[karmic chasm]

T3 Kabr and T6 Rossi 🙏

[sharp talon]

wait for crota

[eager holly]

aww...

[delicate mango]

Sooo have y'all got a fire team once crota goes live

On Saturday

[restive finch]

Why can't I post pictures here?

[thin valve]

Does all stone hoofs counter bosses after like wave 30? Should i change my anesthesias with them

[oak temple]

7-8 out of 10. Is the new Kbr worth it?

[sharp talon]

people said they can go to 99 so i think so. or you can try super buffing an anesthesia

you need the whole map covered with stone hoof

[karmic chasm]

I find him really fun. I’m not sure how well he holds up against other mythics though.

[thin valve]

Is tier 2 enough? 2 star

[sharp talon]

yeah thats where it gets mega broken

since all the buffs stack with each other 🤣

[stark forge]

basically useful for tanking, dmg not great

[restive finch]

I wanted to know if these rules also apply to Crota challenge

Fair Play Mechanics
As we discussed in our recent developer update, maintaining a fair and balanced competitive environment is our priority. The following restrictions will be in effect during the Week One event:
• Weapon mods are disabled
• Exotic weapons are limited to Catalyst Node 1
• Weapon Gear Level is capped at Level 80
• Character Talents and Light-Linked Companions are disabled
• Only artifact perks remain active (tiers, gilding, and attributes are disabled)

[sharp talon]

dont spam stone hoof if its only one star

[thin valve]

they stack???

[sharp talon]

yea LMAO

[thin valve]

wtf😭😭😭

[warm hinge]

If everything is disabled. How are we even supposed to do the modes?

[sinful totem]

What towers do you guys think are meta for the new mode?

[twilit thistle]

👀

[vast veldt]

Guys, where do I open the boxes from Bulwark Ops?

[sharp talon]

2 star stonehoof can do everything

[sinful totem]

Click on the multiplayer node should be there

[restive finch]

I don't know, this was the one from the first raid challenge, I don't know if anything has changed, but they're not saying anything

[sinful totem]

I got to 43 solo without really trying much.

What’s the mythic / exotic rarity bleed tower?

[vast arch]

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[violet sonnet]

You can already see Crota Stuff ingame if youd check the Event Tab, fair Play will always be on for Leaderboard Rush

[vast veldt]

thx guyz

[warm hinge]

I played during the first raid.. I didn't notice anything different if all of those restrictions were active.

[thin valve]

If i bug autorun in wall, can i go afk?

[violet sonnet]

You can go afk in Solo Bulwark it wont kick you

[warm hinge]

My clan kinda died a while ago, not sure how I'll run the event this time

[stark forge]

emblem looks nice i might need to look for a crota team

[cyan tide]

Is fair play the same as last time? So exotics are limited to the first catalyst, no mods for mythics, artifacts set to perk lvl 1, etc

[thin valve]

It wont?

[summer ledge]

If you like the defensive play style, absolutely. It's like Kabr with more damage. Unfortunately, he is in direct competition in terms of type and element with the most broken unit in the entire game so people seem to be dismissing him more than usual.

[violet sonnet]

Pretty sure its the same

[violet sonnet]

You only get (rightfully) afk kicked in 3 Man Mode

[thorny frost]

Fair play rules for next event

[summer ledge]

I like the new one to the point where he might overtake Tan.

[thin valve]

so even if i close game (open another app) im still good?

[violet sonnet]

Idk that but there is no AFK Timer in Solo

[thorny frost]

If the game can’t connect to the sever it will kick you

[cyan tide]

Man, that sucks. I understand doing that for eclipse because a lot of people didn't have maxed out gear back then but that's not the case anymore

[restive finch]

damn I hadn't seen that, thank you very much

[violet sonnet]

It's 3 Days you will live

Like if they dont put on Fair Play we are literally going to Steamroll the Raid

[cyan tide]

People are gonna finish it in an hour either way

[vast arch]

It's to make it fair for f2p vs p2w players

[thorny frost]

For world first/first week challenge I think it is nice. People complain how these games are to P2W but this makes the main challenges still viable for all, while having other things for spenders

[cyan tide]

F2p can still have maxed out mythic and exotic weapons, there's no reason to limit those

[warm hinge]

We meet again

[violet sonnet]

Mods have RNG too, turning them off puts everyone on the same Playing Field

Someone with a Boss/Min Damage Mod on their Heavy is gona hit a lot harder then someone who has Regular Mobs/whatever else it can roll

[vast arch]

Sure but you can also buy the materials from the black market so it's not really an even playing field

not to mention buying exotic cores for silver

[thorny frost]

But not all units are as viable for these challenges. As all F2P players in theory can get all units (besides some bad luck scenerios) this means they will have the same balance as Paying players. It is just a quick challenge mode that happens at the beginning of each raid.

[violet sonnet]

All of which are limited to Node 1

[cyan tide]

It's not like having more maxed out exotics would help you, you're limited to one per character

[violet sonnet]

Fair Play essentially removes RNG and P2W.
Literally the only RNG that is left is your Weapon's Perks

[vast arch]

I mean, yeah you would want a maxxed exotic for each character that is needed in the encounters

[violet sonnet]

No Attributes means it also doesnt matter how god awful your Artifact is cause you only get the Main Effect

[tight talon]

I am like 30% sure that Fairplay doesn't disable Talent trees, but it's been a while since I have read the rules again

[violet sonnet]

it disables talents and light linked companions

[tight talon]

ain no way

[cyan tide]

That's only for SG

[vast arch]

Also cat band 2 for arbalest isn't possible right now without paying a lot of $$$

[thorny frost]

They did first eclipse too (there was complaints and praise back then about it too)

[violet sonnet]

Technically its possible if you saved Tokens or have a lot of Leves

[vast arch]

You still have to pay $$$ to get your BP to level 50

[violet sonnet]

BP uses Lumina Leaves to level

[tight talon]

I mean lowkey fair. You can't get paid advantage in a competition.

[twilit thistle]

[thin valve]

@indigo solar you are clever, u should know

[tight talon]

Thanks for the infographic

[indigo solar]

It depends

If you don't open it for a long enough period, it will end the session

In that case, you don't get rewards

[thin valve]

I dont wanna reopen it every 2 minutes💔

[vast arch]

Still, that requires saving and spending with the intention of unlocking the Bp weapon and also means a f2p player might miss out on a T0 copy of a limited because they saved.

[thorny frost]

I like it, and I have T6 units. The idea that for limited time challenge everyone is on an even playing field is a nice change for gachas. And it is only like 1-2 events per new raid (and some PvP modes).

[violet sonnet]

You need to have absolutly rancid RNG to not be positive on Leaves if you only get T0

Like i have enough to pull 2 Chars rn

[indigo solar]

I think it's 5 or 10 minutes, if you reopen and see "reconnecting" you're good. If it goes to the title screen, you lose the rewards

[tight talon]

I maintain a healthy 7000 leaves at the minimum anytime I start to save for next character. Kabr is the first rancid character I have ever got.

[vast arch]

We are talking about maxxed BP weapons, right? It's impossible for f2p players to have every single BP weapon maxxed

[thorny frost]

Kabr the first unit I ever got in the first 10 pull. And he is the one I was just going to keep at T0 lol

[vast arch]

@indigo solar will tell you

[indigo solar]

It's impossible for us to even have every BP weapon c2 😭

[violet sonnet]

We talked about 1 Weapon now your changing it to all

[karmic chasm]

BP weapons need to be cheaper overall

[visual wharf]

anyone feel like arbalest sucks? it looks like its really underperforming in the high end too syd and nature are still using qb

[wheat ferry]

F2P should forget about BP weapons all together ngl

[karmic chasm]

You’re back

[vast arch]

I was specifically talking about the new weapon, yes but the argument was why it wouldn't be fair for exotics to be uncapped

[violet sonnet]

Also technically F2P cant max at all cause your not F2P if you buy Premium BP which is req to max smth in a Season

[shadow ocean]

youre back

[vast arch]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-your-gif-22328611

[violet sonnet]

1 Wep comes from LvL 50, 2 from Tokens and the last is on the Premium Track

[karmic chasm]

I’ve been here brotha 😭

And it’s a problem, I know

[violet sonnet]

The only BP Weapon i even bothered to max so far has been Maru's

[shadow ocean]

not all fish live in the same sea

[violet sonnet]

And the Way Arbi is looking at best i MIGHT buy the 40 Token one just so if it ever gets buffed i dont need to spend 120 Tokens

[vast arch]

Taking bets, I'm on floor 55 in chaos, how many more floors until I get an exotic? (none so far)

[karmic chasm]

Glad to see you all returned. My journey to T6 Rossi is complete.

[tight talon]

100% day 1 been vouching for it. But people really don't bother about their money

[violet sonnet]

Best i can do is 1 Exotic per 100 Floors

[karmic chasm]

70

[vast arch]

that does not live up to the 3% drop rate

[violet sonnet]

I dont even farm Exotic Artifacts without Pinnacle cause id die of boredness

[karmic chasm]

Same. Also they drop horribly underpowered when they actually drop

[twilit thistle]

[violet sonnet]

I get a semi decent one and call it a day cause frankly dont need perfect attributes for 90% of this Games Content

[karmic chasm]

I T3d Kabr today

[violet sonnet]

Like gimme 3 matching Attributes that are decent and its a good Exotic for me

[vast arch]

ain't no way I just got 2 back to back now

[twilit thistle]

👀 Depends. Did you happen to play shadowshaper? If so, where you on offense on your first match, or defense

[karmic chasm]

That’s generally how I roll, except on Rossi. Don can vouch that he was pretty good

[wheat ferry]

This! Make sure you got an artifact from pinnacle energy as it'll have higher power when you enhance it compared to a basic rewards one

[vast arch]

you're so right, not even worth it for the cost of mats to upgrade

[violet sonnet]

I mean my Hellhest has perfect Rolls, the next best i have is just 4 matching with okay Effects

I also only occasonally refractor my Helhest Artis cause i cant be bothered to get them to 480

[charred wharf]

arbalest or queenbreaker for cooler kabr?

[vast arch]

I'm looking for HH rolls since I neglected to build her properly for so long

[violet sonnet]

Like i'll get there eventually but also it feels like such a Waste cause what do i need 4x Tier 10 for

[wheat ferry]

Is he cooler though? But RC

[violet sonnet]

I get my Master 1 in C Ops and then i dont care about C Ops anymore

[visual wharf]

qb arby seems to be really bad

[karmic chasm]

Duh, he has a laser and a beard

[violet sonnet]

Thats 5 Clusters each Cycle which is more then enough

[thin valve]

im gonna end ts at wave 50

[wheat ferry]

Gonna grow a beard so I can become cool then ig

[karmic chasm]

You’d rock it 😎

[worldly hazel]

My juice boutta expire 🥀💔

[violet sonnet]

Interessting... the same Setup in Bulwark on my Phone performs far worse then on my PC

[sharp talon]

solo or 3 player?

[karmic chasm]

In terms of lag? Or like it doesn’t work as well

[violet sonnet]

failed at Wave 3

It shouldnt fail before Wave 4

[karmic chasm]

Bizarre

[violet sonnet]

Ima just replace one Tower with Stone Hoof

Might be too much but i can always tweak it, just wanna have it afk on my phone instead of pc cause its less hassle

[sinful totem]

Kabr is that guy

[soft bobcat]

Oh nice didn't realize Bulwark gives proficiency gotta get my Attal and Umeko to Adept 2. I wonder what wave you need for +20

[sharp talon]

what round?

[soft bobcat]

Even if it's +5 prof after 3 waves that would be a nice farm

[wheat ferry]

He might have accidentally used pinnacle lol

[soft bobcat]

hmm yea I'll test and see

[stark forge]

how do i reach wave 15 bulwark 3 players ?

[wheat ferry]

Premade, have them use stone hoofs

[stark forge]

i dont wanna make teams 🥀

[wheat ferry]

Then pray your teammates know what they're doing

[stark forge]

i swear this mode is harder than clam ops

[tight talon]

Step one, play on teleportation map and be third member on the fireteam

And have a decent first, second can be a random

[thorny frost]

I need to still do coop on tower defense.

[tight talon]

First won't let anything to go into portal of two and two mistakes can be salvaged by you. Whatever you miss goes to first

[thorny frost]

Does it actually have different maps?

[tight talon]

Yeah I seen 2 maps so far

[thorny frost]

O dang, they need different maps for solo too

[tight talon]

One is 3 way road into middle. Second is 2 way road and third road sends it to your teammates end

[bitter estuary]

balls

i need t2 stone hoof so bad

[tight talon]

Chat, we seriously not getting any character in like 25 days? And rather have to stay with Kabr for 38 days?

this throwed off pattern soo much that I can't even predict no more

[sharp talon]

mythic ikora might be next

[tight talon]

Ikora with bees? What's next Donovan with a Goat?

[sharp talon]

the bee thing might be someone else

[tight talon]

[winged lintel]

And ikora may be next in act2

[tight talon]

didn't expect originality to die in my Destiny game within 3 months

[tight talon]

Who is even leaking tis

[winged lintel]

Just suspicion based off of one of the seasonal triumphs

[restive finch]

too risky a move

[empty kettle]

Ikora mains will eat it up

[winged lintel]

They already did it with kabr tho

[sharp talon]

ikora is much more hype than kabr

[winged lintel]

And ikora is more popular as a destiny character than kabr

[fresh tangle]

they better do ikora justice LMAO

[tight talon]

I mean the triumph just says Void. They could slap Gwwyn rerun in there and we can't do anything bout it

[sharp talon]

shadowshaper says kabr and ikora

[empty kettle]

Didn't Ikora ghost start to learn arc?

[winged lintel]

No, the shadowshaper one that gives you extra points for having kabr and ikora in your deck

[tight talon]

I see

[restive finch]

yes and it was quite risky one, but doing it twice in a row is crazy

They can do it too, that's fine, but not in a row

[thorny frost]

I doubt Ikora will be next unless they are doing 3 permanent units in a row. That would probably hit revenue a little to much

[gritty rune]

NetEase pushing shadowkeeper noobs into the Jaren firing squad smh

[winged lintel]

People in here were weirdly hyped for this kabr so idk doesnt seem any riskier now that they know people will be okay with it since first copy is free

[sharp talon]

i would be more happy with kabr if he had a story quest 😭

[gritty rune]

I doubt mythic ikora would be perm.

[winged lintel]

He does but its timegated until crota gets here

[sharp talon]

oh really? thats interesting

[tight talon]

My aspiration for another character just went on a full dive. I ain't no more got it in me no more to do login events for a character that goes into permanent banner.

Tis hurts more than just waiting 30 days and collecting leaves and pulls to gamble like slot machine for T0 on day 1

[restive finch]

Yes, that's true too, it was a risky move but it actually worked, but I don't want them to get carried away now...

[thorny frost]

She might not, but if this is a new “trend” she could be too. People were doubting Kabr would be permanent too.

[sharp talon]

im still summoning for kabr because im too impulsive to save the resolute charms

[winged lintel]

Me neither, but it makes sense given they accelerated their development of endgame content, s3 and s4 back to back having lots of new content probably meant characters had to take a back seat

[tight talon]

and lack of originality.

I care more about Dark Age lore and characters that were under Iron lords in different parts of Earth.

Not just having the character I already know get a glow up

[willow moon]

We need a solo endless bulwark leaderboard man

[thorny frost]

I use the resolute charms, but at most 10 pulls on Kabr after that (due to getting him in the first 10 pull) I was fine if I only got a T0 honestly lol

[sharp talon]

i need attal as well for jaren

[empty kettle]

S4 has a chance of giving us Wolf with a different element or a perm sentinel form

[thorny frost]

They need to balance towers first, to easy to hit cap on solo atm

[restive finch]

Well honestly I think I stocked up on ideas before releasing the game

[fresh tangle]

im curious what element felwinter will be

[gritty rune]

This is so weird.

Do people like, actually like the gacha business model or something

[karmic chasm]

She’s not completely useless in my lineup anymore!

I tried it everywhere. Idk. I’m just confused that I can’t replicate it

[fresh tangle]

its a popular asian model for a reason

[cyan tide]

My Helhest still has mythics on slot 3 and 4

[tight talon]

I just like my characters to be limited /s

[gritty rune]

The biggest games in China aren’t gacha though, they’re PvP games

[fresh tangle]

having some characters go to standard is also a good thing for the game too.
not every single character has to be limited

[gritty rune]

Like the most popular mobile game by a landslide in China is Honour of Kings

[wheat ferry]

I'd say void

[tight talon]

I just hate having to login for more than 20 mins. I rather much that time playing something else or reading or watching Minecraft create mod guides or cooking.

Kabr like event sets precent that you need to do checklist daily else you will miss out

[sharp talon]

is there an afk timer in 3 player endless but with a premade? it doesnt seem so

[fresh tangle]

is there an afk tiemr for any game mode?

[gritty rune]

I think we should do what Where Winds Meet did, and like have gacha, and then the extra special gacha where the pulls are for silver only, and the pity doesn’t carry between banners

[sharp talon]

i heard there was for 3 player endless

[haughty swallow]

the afk timer is bluestacks crashing

[fresh tangle]

lol

[tight talon]

Bloating standard banner doesn't do anything for players. It's still increases the chance to not get the character you want by the amount of characters that you could get.

I much rather get reruns for people who want them

[thorny frost]

Kabr event is stupidly fast tho. Spend on iron lord go do one commision and do bounties.

[restive finch]

then you need other characters who use fusion rifles and rocket launchers

[fresh tangle]

assuming they dont ever add a selecter option to it

[gritty rune]

Iike you can wear your extra special limited gacha outfit and look down upon all the normal whales who only have $400 outfits

[tight talon]

[wheat ferry]

Unpopular opinion but I think we should get 60 free pulls for every character. Most T0s suck anyway

[karmic chasm]

A gacha player with a heart ^

[thorny frost]

I don’t think that is as much an unpopular opinion vs what it might do to revenue.

[gritty rune]

Agree, I think we should have autoplay in this game like other mobile MMOs

[karmic chasm]

What are you at for Kabr? I’m at T3. I’m gonna pull until I finish the transmat card (got the emote).

[tight talon]

I dunno man, selector already exists at 180 and then you realise how hard it cascades once you start accounting for 3 permanent characters that will not be what you want and then you also never should spend leaves on standard

[stark forge]

but then they will make free pulls only give 1 copy no extra

[tight talon]

we already have that, it's called Iron Commander

[gritty rune]

I hate actually playing the game

[gritty rune]

Smh can’t iron commander legend campaign, shifting gates or raids

[wheat ferry]

We already know there'll be a universal light crystal in the future for like £250 lol

[fresh tangle]

forgot about that lol. honestly that should just be a 60 pull 50/50 if anything.
not really a fan of the 180 pulls

[thorny frost]

Make weapons that cater to their playstyle, invisible buffs

[gritty rune]

I’m really disappointed we won’t be able to iron commander Crota

[shy radish]

Is there any up-to-date spreadsheets with build recommendations?

[thorny frost]

Bad juju expectation for Estela and her super energy generation

[rotund flame]

Oof already used 40 of the free pulls and nothing.... Of course it's going to take me the full 60 to get the character 😭

[empty kettle]

Welcome to the club

[wheat ferry]

My first went to 58 pulls lol

[fresh tangle]

so far ive pitied my first 2, then got a double on my third

[shy radish]

Somehow I already got him and another copy, usually my luck with Rising is way worse

[gritty rune]

You guys used LE pulls on kabr?

[empty kettle]

Yes

[rotund flame]

Same 💀

[shy radish]

Yep

[wheat ferry]

Yes

[gritty rune]

I might use 10 on him actually if I don’t get another one in 20 pulls cos it’d be 14 until pity

[rotund flame]

Seems like a waste since you will get him regardless, unless your impatient lol

[hidden carbon]

Now you can do clan calam runs

[gritty rune]

They want talents

[fresh tangle]

what is todays solo bulwark enemies?

[hidden carbon]

Double hh is going to be the way for this calam cycle

[gritty rune]

Idk man the pity doesn’t carry over to next banner so I don’t think it’s worth chasing 4 stars on this

[tight talon]

Y'all are not ready for Jade Rabbit Ikora

[wheat ferry]

Everyone should throw everything at the banner just to get rossi to T6🫶

[thorny frost]

Hope you finish the T6 soon and enjoy the cooler Kabr

[karmic chasm]

This is actually the Rossi banner 🤷‍♂️

[visual wharf]

what if i already have t6 rossi somehow

[sharp talon]

maybe mythic rossi will come someday

[fresh tangle]

assuming she gets a scout rifle. kabr has a scout so i doubt they run another character with a scout so soon

[karmic chasm]

Lucky dawg. But thankfully I do now as well

[gritty rune]

My Rossi is like T4 and benched

[rotund flame]

His right though. This banner has a separate pity compared to the last ones. On jaren I was at around 30 pity. It should carry over to the next limited

[rain condor]

Grandmaster legendary campaign??

[visual wharf]

i only have t3 hel idk how ive pulled so many rossi

[karmic chasm]

She’s only T1, but I’ll do my best lol

[sharp talon]

impact/spread kinda bad though. spread weapons can handle impact pretty well

[wheat ferry]

Kabrs pity should carry over to the next 5* that was totally originally a 4* banner too

[thorny frost]

Rossi funnels electricity into enemies to just make them explode?

[karmic chasm]

Electricity and pure unadulterated aura

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny-2-edge-of-fate-ikora-rey-gif-11970180663264675668

[wheat ferry]

Mythic rossi puts himself in a cage instead

[karmic chasm]

Dude how are you liking Kabr? I’ve been playing him all day.

[hidden carbon]

one hh on add clear and ammo generation and the other using arb on elemental shields and shinkas

[empty kettle]

Hopefully they do her justice this time

[empty kettle]

Pretty fun, just waiting for symmetry to come

[sharp talon]

mythic rossi gives you 100k lumia leaves everyday

he's a lumia leaf farmer

[karmic chasm]

Mythic Rossi sends a map sized Photoelectric Gate across the entire calamity map upon loading in

Wait this is so hard 🔥

[karmic chasm]

Does that mean I have to build Arb 💀

[gritty rune]

Mythic Rossi is lore accurate. He gets into an argument with team mates in CO and accidentally dies

[karmic chasm]

Dude it was so peak. You and I just bubbled the enemies and then stepped inside with them like “good day lads”

[rich veldt]

Nice

[karmic chasm]

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT

what if mythic Rossi was ||ACTUALLY|| Rossi and not ||Darius||

[fresh tangle]

that was not a gif lmao

how 54 star rossi gonna be moving on release (fixed)

[gritty rune]

Kills all his team mates in an oopsie upon entry

[karmic chasm]

Rossi, the Undying

[karmic chasm]

Only Darius would do that tho lol

[sharp talon]

mythic rossi has time traveling capabilities

[bitter estuary]

td mode is essentially an glamorized afk mode idk

[gritty rune]

Iron Hoof simulator

[sharp talon]

if stone hoof wasnt as broken itd be more engaging

[gritty rune]

And if the rewards weren’t so meh

Bow/RL? oh boy hope you like reloading

[rich veldt]

Thanks Kabr^2 for letting me go from acclaim 24 to 37 with a single button press

[gritty rune]

Yeah I wish he stuck with MG tbh. Fusion rifle is boring to use

[rotund raptor]

I have a question.why doesnt kabbr res have story quest

[gritty rune]

They had to subvert expectations after people joked about he’ll have a worse one than Jaren

[bitter estuary]

finally my stone hoof is t2 after like 50 boxes

[rotund raptor]

Maybe its that

[gritty rune]

Wouldn’t make much sense though. Like, wouldn’t Ikora make more sense?

[echo horizon]

Yo. Anyone wanna join me in doing the crotas end raid when it comes out

[rotund raptor]

Will crota raid be same as in old destiny

[gritty rune]

Nah I’m soloing it

[echo horizon]

Id assume it would be

Maybe, they could have changed it to fit this game

And so far, im loving the new kabr, his abilities are so much better than the old one

[rotund raptor]

Im liking it too

[echo horizon]

I've only got him at 66k so far and his abilities shread

[rotund raptor]

Thats awesome mine is only at 52 or 53k cuz i havent farmed artifacts yet

[dusty spire]

I love the TD and I think it’s something they will build on.

This maybe the easy mode of it until enemy’s start to attack ect ect. Get the player bases used to the minimum mechanics then start to improve difficulty and balances

[echo horizon]

Mine was mainly cause the weapons I used were already high enough

[empty kettle]

Looks to be the d2 version of crota

[dusty spire]

Ngl love the Kabr absolutely appreciating the style 🥶

[rotund raptor]

Oh ok then anything i should keep in mind for the raid then

[gritty rune]

Remember that whenever you wipe, it’s always the healer’s fault

[karmic chasm]

Tbh, same. I’m 2 away from T6 old Kabr. I’m becoming an Arc connoisseur

[twilit thistle]

I think there is growing confusion on when this event starts.

[karmic chasm]

I’m definitely not gonna be able to do contest mode lol

Gonna be so busy. Maybe my clan mates can take me through one time for the rewards. Thanks in advance guys 😭

[violet sonnet]

Now afk Farming has TRULY paid off

[echo horizon]

This is just base damage for my kabrs super with him only being 66k

[vast arch]

That would make it <t:1767448800> if I'm not mistaken

[hasty ocean]

Are any of the new mythics good rn?

[karmic chasm]

I just realized if I want to collect weapons again I have to play Destiny: AFK

[karmic chasm]

Wait no way. Show your artifacts
I’m not getting close to that in actual modes

[echo horizon]

Ight then gimme a sec

[trail tinsel]

The sword is really good.

[karmic chasm]

How does one do these timestamps? I’ve looked it up and can’t do it still

[mint tendon]

Afternoon Rossi

[echo horizon]

Got another artifact and increased damage by 200

[karmic chasm]

Good afternoon Ning enjoyer

[thin valve]

50

[karmic chasm]

Gimme a sec

[thin valve]

I did 50 waves but as long as u claim 1 chest after even 3 waves u get +20(thats max)

[mint tendon]

Helhest enjoyer for expanse since yesterday

[karmic chasm]

Same lol. Not for expanse tho, still trying to drag Rossi through that

[thin valve]

We need a helhest rerun🙏🙏

[karmic chasm]

I would blow money on that. Which talent gives her decreased benchmark for ammo generation?

[thin valve]

I would get her t6 in like 10 minutes after seeing her in draws lol

[mint tendon]

I'm trying to get a good roll for that crossbow so I can use the linear rifle. Stuck with trinity for now.

[bitter estuary]

is perponderant plasma that consistent?

[tight talon]

I am just confused how I and II work for you lol.

His heals is natural health recovery and not an actual heal skill

[echo horizon]

Yeah, before you use your super, use your arc beam fully then use your super, it'll increase your damage by like 400-500

[echo horizon]

They were just ones i had, im gonna change then when I get the right ones

[tight talon]

All good

[worldly hazel]

Yoshimoto godroll?

[tight talon]

Archer Tempo likely, Annihilation ain't bad either but just get Reduced Draw time exotic mod and Anhilation will beat it

[karmic chasm]

Archer’s tempo or Emboldening Support are what you want in perk column 3

[tight talon]

Idk what's the 4th column probably just thumbs up roll

[karmic chasm]

Yes, ensured Yields

[karmic chasm]

Emboldening support is good on Rossi iirc

[bitter estuary]

ok ngl it is somewhat more consistent than rampaging pact lmao

[mint tendon]

Thanks

[twilit thistle]

Central? im also hearing "leaderboard rush in patch notes still say a different time" (Please pin it, whatever it is)

[vast arch]

I’m pacific time. Trying to get a solid answer and I’ll update when I do

[scenic wigeon]

So... whens crota coming

[rotund raptor]

Agree

[echo horizon]

So im running chaos, and after hitting the servitor fully with my beam then popping super, one hit instant kill with 850k damage

[karmic chasm]

How tf 😭
I have lvl 9 super boost

[fresh tangle]

wish we got like 2 more black armory weapons lol

[echo horizon]

Switch rampaging pact with his new one

[karmic chasm]

You’re just using super right

[echo horizon]

Mhm

This is from just using super

[scenic wigeon]

D:

[echo horizon]

If I also hit him with a full arc beam, I make that go to 1.8mil damage

[karmic chasm]

I’ll check out the new arti later! Thanks!

[vast arch]

Google discord timestamp converter

[karmic chasm]

I did 😭

[sharp talon]

stone hooves are losing steam at wave 85 for 3 player endless it seems

[karmic chasm]

I think the consensus was that even if they do, everything else runs out of steam far earlier 💀

[sharp talon]

i actually have to play the game now and use the superweapon

[haughty swallow]

got flawless decal in one polish. there goes my draw luck

[worn trench]

Hi, odd question but are third party top up websites allowed for this game? And for those that ever used SEAGM for this game does it work and does it accumulate to the total silver purchase bonuses?

[karmic chasm]

Hell yea. This season has been the luckiest for me as well, had the same thing happen. Went straight onto my Rossi

[sharp talon]

rip we lost at 88. my teammates were afk. has anyone made it to 99 in 3 player endless?

[karmic chasm]

I know others have used it. It does work.

Who else wishes Helhest used hand cannons and Attal used bows

[worn trench]

For the silver rewards too? (The ones that let you get succession, etc)

[karmic chasm]

Ohhhhh I didn’t see that part of your message. You’ll have to ask around more, sorry. I haven’t personally tested that.

[cyan tide]

Anything except bow, worst weapon type in the game istg

[worn trench]

Any good place to ask in particular?

[karmic chasm]

Ok no, it’s wayyyy better than people make it out to be, but I just like hand cannons more.

[karmic chasm]

Lowkey just drop in here again when it’s real active and someone will probably know lol

Like 5-7 pm

[rain condor]

I’m so unlucky with getting more copies for Stone Hoof

[worn trench]

Sorry for being a nag but… 5-7pm of what Timezone lol

[haughty swallow]

did they add new shadowshaper NPCs for 30-35?

[charred wharf]

no

[haughty swallow]

sadge. thanks!

[karmic chasm]

My bad lol. It would be Mountain Time as I’m in Colorado. That’s 7-9 pm EST

[indigo solar]

Bows are in the top 3 primaries what

It's scouts, bows and lgls

[karmic chasm]

Thank you Taniks 😭

I try to tell everyone this but they think I’m just a biased Rossi glazer (true though)

[worn trench]

That’s 2-4AM for me. How quaint I suppose.

Have we started blaming Taniks for everything we don’t like? Cause I like the idea of that

[indigo solar]

Yes 😭

[worn trench]

Why are you called Taniks? That’s not right you are CLEARLY the Herald of finality!

[karmic chasm]

I’m a light spender, which is the issue. I recently had Seagm suggested to me by a friend, but I bought the patron bundle bc it was better value for my recent 20 bucks. Wish I knew the answer

[cyan tide]

Bows feel terrible to use, they might be good damage wise but they're so slow it takes forever to kill groups of ads with them
Scouts and lgls just do everything better

[worn trench]

Wait, isn’t there some kind of silver conversion to specific packs? I swear that’s listed so if you have anything higher than 0 after buying that, you may have the answer already

Maybe it’s not part of the packs that have the cumulative silver conversion but it not sure

[sly pelican]

How do you deal with agile harpies in bulwark?

[karmic chasm]

It should work, but I bought directly from the in game store without the seagm discount

[worn trench]

So you didn’t use SeaGM for it I guess

[karmic chasm]

Right, only my friends 💀
Wish I had known about it earlier

they just confirmed it does count @worn trench

[worn trench]

It’s ok thank you for trying I really appreciate the friendliness

No seriously having played d2 finding a team to do Div ends up with a British guy berating you for not having a mic when Div can be done without mic at all

So it’s a breath of fresh air seeing Destiny players actually be rational thinkers for 0.2 seconds

Anyway back to blaming Taniks for everything

[karmic chasm]

So yea I’d use seagm from now on. I will be too

[sly pelican]

How do you deal with the agile harpies in Bulwark stage 8?

[karmic chasm]

Pray to st Mary

[sly pelican]

I have been haha

[gritty rune]

Believe it or not, stone hoofs

[indigo solar]

This is only a problem in low level content, in higher difficulties where weapons take longer to kill but bows still one tap they feel fine

[cyan tide]

It can be done without a mic but you're really banking on everyone knowing exactly what they're doing. Even in coordinated teams it's easy to mess up, so trying to do the Div puzzles without communication sounds like a good way to waste an entire evening

[sly pelican]

I’ll give that a try

[empty kettle]

"Rational thinkers" wait until you do a DR raid with randoms

[neat solar]

Anyone know when the crota raid will be dropping, have we been given that info yet? Or any best guesses on when we think

[gritty rune]

Stone hoofs is the fit the circle in the square hole of this mode

[worn trench]

Doing a Destiny Raid with randoms is generally a mistake I know that well enough I’ll just find a team when I’m ready (I’m really a beginner atm, not even close to the state)

[nimble plank]

is there a channel to make a ticket related to discord?

[bitter estuary]

i love how bulwark is just afk farm strikes

[cyan tide]

Onslaught is easy enough that it can be done with randoms but trying to do eclipse without communication was a complete waste of time

[lyric skiff]

What r these?

[gritty rune]

But iron Commander already exists

[bitter estuary]

non-pinnacle

[lyric skiff]

They light up if u shoot them some kinda easter egg? Theres a few i found

[gritty rune]

Ah

[violet sonnet]

i love my tartara sauce

[empty kettle]

Could it possibly be a hidden quest?

[lyric skiff]

No idea

[karmic chasm]

Who

[lyric skiff]

Ive jusy found several around the map n seemed like wud be something

[violet sonnet]

Arc Sniper

[lyric skiff]

Side effect of my lumifly hunt tho gates 20/20 now🙌🏻

[karmic chasm]

Oh the new gun? On Umeko or Tan?

[violet sonnet]

Umeko, i dont play Tan

[karmic chasm]

Same. Used to but then Jaren took his place

[violet sonnet]

I got Tan, then we go Umeko and i lost all interesst in Tan

[karmic chasm]

She’s definitely hot fun to play

[lyric skiff]

Tan just too slow

[bitter estuary]

i wonder how broken the range is once you t4 stone hoof's

[lyric skiff]

Movement speed>>>

[tight talon]

Tan Naysayers gonna hate Crota raid

[karmic chasm]

Bro will be top dog again

[tight talon]

Facts. People are gonna beg for his healing well

[lyric skiff]

Eclipse mk2😭

[violet sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-git-gud-hollow-knight-gif-487380231553167495

Just dont take Damage so you wont need Healing

[lyric skiff]

This used to be a dark souls meme

[karmic chasm]

I’m brining Helhest to like every encounter. Maybe Rossi on the suggested ones

[lyric skiff]

Oh how we've "fallen" kek

[tight talon]

you don't get gud in -2000 power content. You pray some random bullet don't hit you at 1200 HP

[fiery cobalt]

welp the the raids gonna be fun my would be team all hate each other

[violet sonnet]

Thats what DR is for Dork

[karmic chasm]

The amount of times I’ve died to a piercing shinka that I didn’t know was looking at me 😭

[lyric skiff]

Random matchmaking ftw

[tight talon]

Ah yes 5% DR gonna save us trust

[violet sonnet]

i ran inverted during eclipse and thats just a casual 40% DR when you get low

[lyric skiff]

Ikora bots who ignore ads to chase u down,and 3x ult, skill,skill,launcher u

[violet sonnet]

Well wont save you from getting dunked on by Snipers

[tight talon]

if DR worked we'd be able to do Expanse at 65k power

[lyric skiff]

Dmg resist dnt help if ur 1 shot from full hp 🤣

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/purple-gojo-gif-14056894601665632756

[indigo solar]

This is exactly where damage resist helps, what

That's where healing doesn't help

[lyric skiff]

Might aswell tell me in handsome with how thirsty they are for me 😭

[lyric skiff]

If i have 40% DR n i get one shot how is tht helping?

[karmic chasm]

Ikora probably doesn’t get a lot of action since shaving her head

[worn trench]

I pray Wolf will remain viable forever in Destiny Rising, I know it’s a gacha game but like come on Successor is such an awesome skin and he’s generally just fun asf to play IMO.

[lyric skiff]

My day 1 main still

[indigo solar]

Because it's making it more difficult to get one tapped

[karmic chasm]

He’s lowkey faster than Jaren if built right

[indigo solar]

Stack DR and you can survive it eventually

[lyric skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-dumb-you-gif-8906255

[empty kettle]

Wolf WILL get a 5 star upgrade

[indigo solar]

It's the only way to survive it

[lyric skiff]

Diffuculty between 1 shot and 1 shot is?

[worn trench]

I hope the 5 star upgrade changes like the 4 star rather than become a new unit

[tight talon]

Does EHP and DR matter more than just DR?

[lyric skiff]

eventually is the key word there

[indigo solar]

EHP and DR are the same

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/toji-toji-fushiguro-death-bloody-died-standing-gif-769732690373477383

[indigo solar]

Please enlighten me what else you can do then, bc stacking DR helps. Nothing else does

[lyric skiff]

Dodge 🤣 use cover etc

[indigo solar]

Hitscan

Not always cover. See plates

[lyric skiff]

Just play maru ig

[empty kettle]

Need someone to place a barrier to cover teammates from piercing shinkas

[indigo solar]

Maru's shield doesn't block fully anymore

If it breaks the shield it'll do the remaining damage

[worn trench]

Last thing before I go off for today I wish the best of luck to those doing the raid! Idk how it all works there’s Calamity AND the race AND another event for the raid? But good luck anyway!!

[lyric skiff]

I just tanked an entire ikora ult

[karmic chasm]

This is me 3 seconds after daring to step foot in Detector zone btw

[indigo solar]

Because of your DR, her shield only blocks like half of the damage

[tight talon]

if I have 5346 Overshield and a 40% DR wouldn't it be better than just having ~5k Total Health+ with 40% DR cause now, it has to whittle down Overshield first, then once that's wipe it's eating my shield then my HP?

[lyric skiff]

Getting slapped by 3 bots simultanously n lived

[violet sonnet]

this is me tanking an enraged sniper shot
Without DR you are not living that

[rain condor]

Stepping into the detector zone only to be wombo combo’d by ikora

[lyric skiff]

100% dodgeable tho

[indigo solar]

Well yes bc 5346 > 5k

[empty kettle]

Just block it

[lyric skiff]

U got cover 2 feet from u 😂

[indigo solar]

Afaik damage resist still applies with overshield

[karmic chasm]

I think she’s duel wielding rocket launchers tbh

[violet sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/missthepoint-the-point-gif-7984004

[lyric skiff]

She has heatseekers 😂 they follow u

[violet sonnet]

Point is, DR does 10x more then Healing when Enemys actually hurt

[rain condor]

It’s always rocket launcher into her pocket nova IMMEDIATELY

[violet sonnet]

Mind you this is Jaren with his BASE DR, now imagine if i actually ran DR Artifacts

[lyric skiff]

Bots aim> real shifting players aim frfr

[violet sonnet]

Attributes dont matter in Fair Play so put on some DR

[lyric skiff]

Better than the s1 bots ig

[tight talon]

No no, what I mean by that is

I mean EHP+ DR in the sense that it's Overshield+Shield+Health
And your DR

Whereas just DR on Shield + Health would be bad cause yk, you have less "total hitpoints" to keep taking damage

[worldly hazel]

What’s max Level? 110?

[gritty rune]

You guys get shifting gates matches?

[lyric skiff]

Always bots

Q in team of three its entirely free to farm the bots dnt even deliver u can win with 1 data echo

[karmic chasm]

To be fair, we wanted lore accurate Ikora, and they gave us lore accurate Ikora

[scenic wigeon]

Played once during launch week... gwynn was running that show

[lyric skiff]

Not anymore 😂its ikora/wolf/kabr city

[indigo solar]

But... but DR is EHP. EHP is (Health + Shield + Overshield) / (1 - DR)

[tight talon]

Y'all trolled Ikora McDonald's soo much,she started serving y'all

[worldly hazel]

Finalla is goated. Run with her shield thing and brrrr people down

[gritty rune]

I think Gwynn’s are extinct nowadays

[lyric skiff]

I use her in gauntlet still

[tight talon]

Oh , I don't understand the mechanics at all

[naive ingot]

I'm never extinct....

[empty kettle]

Endangered mains

[lyric skiff]

The reaper has arrived

[karmic chasm]

Serving us a black hole straight to the dome, yea

[violet sonnet]

Points if anyone who complains over dying in Crotas End and is running 2x Healing Artis i wont take serious
Run some DR

[indigo solar]

40% DR = multiply your total health by 167%

[rain condor]

Wolf is getting on my nerves

[lyric skiff]

Eclipse dmg wasnt even bad tbf just mechanics were pain

[bright plover]

Hello

[tight talon]

Worst is, not many characters benefit from DR much esp at lower %

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-gif-949319236308169219

[lyric skiff]

In gates with lvl1 launcher ahahah killing every1 🤣

[tight talon]

Forget worse self healing as well

[scenic wigeon]

If ikora had a multi round primary I bet it would save her

[violet sonnet]

Most Chars will do just fine with Baseline Healing or 1 Healing Artifact

[naive ingot]

I've just burnt through all my pinnacle so it's rest time. Soon. Crota will kneel before me.... Again, like in D1

[lyric skiff]

Healing planet + ring conversion is goated still

[hollow salmon]

I think she will be really fun in some of the Crota encounters and I know this is cope

[indigo solar]

Nah artifacts are locked at tier 1 so you want ones that provide a mechanical change

[tight talon]

Grossly underestimating. There's too long cooldowns between either movement or healing ability to actually utilise it

[indigo solar]

Like ring of conversion

[rain condor]

My Jaren is ALMOST raid ready

[lyric skiff]

Wolf works well for tht with resets

[bitter estuary]

how far you can go in bulwark with just stone hoofs in solos

[empty kettle]

Getting into the melee range of Crota is not an ideal option

[lyric skiff]

99 apparently

[tight talon]

Can't use Wolf everywhere and Red Bars are myths

[scenic wigeon]

I gotta buy bundles to get a light crystal for estella... I wish I didn't drop out after launch week

[lyric skiff]

I can and do use her everywhere 😂

[scenic wigeon]

[hollow salmon]

Of course not, but I'm talking about fun runs not leaderboard sweating

[rain condor]

Unless you have a well of radiance

[indigo solar]

Cba to go all the way through 99 again but I've got full towers all with stone hoof, they can solo everything from there if you upgrade. There's literally no need to run any other tower

[lyric skiff]

Somebody call tan2 🤣

[lyric skiff]

But not for me

[scenic wigeon]

Estela summoning spam

[empty kettle]

Goodluck tanking that while -2000 power level

[bitter estuary]

fair, im at wave 50 w/ stone hoofs atm LMAO

[tight talon]

Way too confident. Please do share a full 4 encounter clear with just Wolf. Do not forget to @tight talon

Yeah your teammates can be anything idc

[carmine stone]

Yo they have to do something about getting kicked for inactivity in bulwark ops, I was writing a message. 30 seconds and you’re out that’s bad.

[lyric skiff]

Ill 100% try with wolf 1st 😂teamamtes? Ill matchmake as per usual

[scenic wigeon]

Whats a god roll primary for estella...?

[indigo solar]

Yeah as long as you've got t2 they can solo all the way. You do need to start using the super weapon around 85 tho

[karmic chasm]

Why negative 2000. Isn’t the cape 59k?? Or is that the minimum

[violet sonnet]

Crota's End Pulse

[indigo solar]

Only need it once per wave

[scenic wigeon]

How do I get it

[violet sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[bitter estuary]

fair

[empty kettle]

Similar to the eclipse

[scenic wigeon]

Till then what's the best thing I can pick up

[violet sonnet]

Not avaible until Jan 3 when the Raid becomes avaible

[carmine stone]

Crotas end Raid Saturday.

[scenic wigeon]

Ayyy that's my dads birthday

[tight talon]

Del 2 Sweet Ears.

[violet sonnet]

For Estella you'd want Fire Rush and Glutton

[karmic chasm]

Not to be rude, but that doesn’t answer my question because I forgot the parameters of eclipse lol

[scenic wigeon]

Witch do... what?

[karmic chasm]

I don’t do anything

[violet sonnet]

tbh i would just wait till raid opens instead of investing into smth you might replace in 2 days

[tight talon]

You can read Perks on Unreleased Guns??

[scenic wigeon]

Leme get a pic of my current rifle

[empty kettle]

They will force you to be under power and while your power level gets limited to the raids recommended power level

[violet sonnet]

oomfie you dissapoint me

[carmine stone]

Each encounter is about 10 mins, so it’s not the full crotas end raid, it’s just the 3 main encounters without the traversal of the raid. This is a mini version of Crotas end.

[violet sonnet]

Like do you just never scroll down?

[tight talon]

Wow, do you know my parents? They say the same thing to me

[karmic chasm]

So that would be negative 11-16k for a lot of us bruh

[violet sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-i-am-father-star-wars-gif-15444478

[karmic chasm]

Nah I know. Also I think there’s 4 encounters in this one

[karmic chasm]

I’m even more confused somehow

[carmine stone]

Nice

[violet sonnet]

ups tagged the wrong person

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/impossible-star-wars-mark-hamill-luke-skywalker-gif-5440327

[violet sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-i-am-father-star-wars-gif-15444478

[scenic wigeon]

I just realized something

[tight talon]

Was Luke Stupid, he could have done this

[carmine stone]

I dig this one. Perfect for Estela energy gain.

[scenic wigeon]

Similar

[violet sonnet]

as i said just wait for raid, save your mythic parameters so you can make 20 raid engrams

[white fossil]

a fellow furies/scorched enjoyer i see 🙏

[violet sonnet]

unfort the new pulse is better for energy gain

[carmine stone]

Already made all 20 raid engrams

[karmic chasm]

The rolls you will want to consider

[scenic wigeon]

These engrams?

[violet sonnet]

its a Rapid Fire Frame with a Origina Trait that increases Fire Rate, having Acess to Fire Rush which increases Firerate even more on the lower Part of the Mag and thats also without the Firerate from Exotic Mod added

[carmine stone]

Unfort?

[karmic chasm]

Also got my buddy Steve past 70k today!! Loving this dude.

[violet sonnet]

yes, make all 20 of them if you got spare parameters

[scenic wigeon]

Aight

[violet sonnet]

unfortunaly

[carmine stone]

You mean oversoul edict?

[scenic wigeon]

:D

[violet sonnet]

Yes Oversoul Edict has the Baseline RPM of Furies at it's max

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/good-luck-with-that-may-the-odds-be-ever-in-your-favor-hunger-games-elizabeth-banks-effie-trinket-gif-17203535

[scenic wigeon]

Hardest thing to get are the orange cubes used in upgrades... Morgan's hunt iron commander is only way im getting them rn

[violet sonnet]

Now add Origin Trait, Fire Rush and a Exotic Mod with Firerate and we gona look at like 700-800 RPM

[thorny frost]

FYI for those using stone hoof in tower defense, their damage type seems to be direct damage not blast damage for the mods you choose.

[violet sonnet]

which is like rapid fire machine gun levels of firerate if im not wrong

[scenic wigeon]

I mean... new years luck, am I right... hopefully it hangs around

[violet sonnet]

you mean mods or the mats to upgrade?

[karmic chasm]

Dude FOR REAL. I’ve been incredibly lucky this season with both pulls and drops.

[scenic wigeon]

Upgrade material for mods... the orange cube things

[violet sonnet]

The Upgrade Mats you get from dismantling Mythic Mods, id honestly dismantle any mythic mod that isnt lvl 5 (you might also have choice packs in your inventory)

like i have 500+ Mythic Mod Mats

[karmic chasm]

You can dismantle every mythic mod tbh.

[thorny obsidian]

can't see any info stated on how to get these in bulwark ops, or am i blind? 😅

[carmine stone]

So for energy the god roll is Fire rush/Glutton. Hyperaemia is a waste.

[empty kettle]

Keep pulling

[violet sonnet]

id keep cause a bad exotic mod that doesnt fit and has bad attributes is worse then a good mythic mod

[violet sonnet]

Anything but Glutton in the 2nd Slot is a Waste cause both Hyperaemia and Eager Aspirant work against Fire Rush

[finite gazelle]

What do y'all think the best weapon combo is for kabr

[violet sonnet]

Like the Gun will already be good for Estella if you get Fire Rush and a Purple Perk in 2nd Slot

[exotic sinew]

is having T6 Umeko worth it as a light link, because she makes debuffs 20% longer meaning his blinds could proc arc lightning more, right?

I have T6 Jaren and Helhest anyways so they were automatically chosen, but just wondering if the 20% longer debuffs would help his kit out with the blinds

[worldly hazel]

Anyone use these for gaming? If so, do they work?

[karmic chasm]

I’m a lazy ahh man and I don’t check substats on mods 💀
Diabolical, I know.

[thorny obsidian]

these things aint getting rewarded for rounds?.. so basically just do round 15 and wipe

[violet sonnet]

your third slot can have boss dmg and min dmg, or smth like reg mob dmg and accuracy

[karmic chasm]

Who are Steve’s best light links?

[violet sonnet]

1st and 3rd Slot affect DMG directly, 2nd slot is honestly personal prefrence i say on mods

[scenic wigeon]

Hows total lockdown better than ultimatum (pulse rifles)

[violet sonnet]

cause the mods for 2nd slot dont roll anything that directly increases dmg

[finite gazelle]

Lockdown's a scout

[junior sage]

Hi 👋 y'all

[karmic chasm]

Total lockdown is goated

[finite gazelle]

Speaking of which I'm still not sure if I should be using lockdown or lassi on kabr and if I wanna invest in end of the line or just stick with contravene

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/the-witness-witness-destoiny-destiny2-sawan-c-haggar-gif-27651264

[violet sonnet]

All i can say is if your doing Raid keep 160 Pinnacle Energy on Hand so you can grab 2 Chests per Encounter (if we can grab 2x Loot)

[sharp talon]

first chest is free tho right?

[worldly hazel]

TLD is a scout rifle big bro. And it’s the best (IMO) scout in the game

[violet sonnet]

If it works like Onslaught no?

[sharp talon]

they said first attempt is free or smthing like that

[violet sonnet]

I mean i didnt look to much into it im expecting it to be like Onslaught with 3x Weekly Rewards but if not its like

[thorny frost]

You get them for upgrading towers

[sharp talon]

i mean itll only happen on first clear so its not anything worth mentioning i guess

[violet sonnet]

I have Reserve Energy for Raid (which i apparently cant say the Number)

[thorny obsidian]

aaah.. thankyou 🙂

[sharp talon]

sadly i have to put pinnacle into artifacts as i need to switch them out :< hope i dont get too far behind those

[empty kettle]

Reminder, all artifacts perk level will be lv 1, for the fair play version of the raid

[cyan tide]

Also attributes will be disabled

[sharp talon]

oh ok. thanks

[cyan tide]

You basically just need to have the correct set for leaderboard phase

[bitter estuary]

if this has kava, avoid

[worldly hazel]

What is ‘cava’

[bitter estuary]

sorry it's kava lmao

its a depressant drug

hmm

[fresh tangle]

i love this feature

[scenic wigeon]

I wonder how hard it would be to cosplay estela

[grave reef]

What are u guys decks for endless bulwarks

[bitter estuary]

t2 stone hoof

[scenic wigeon]

At this point nickname the strat as "the stampede"... since, yknow... hooves

[bitter estuary]

stone hoof domain expansion sim

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/satoru-gojo-domain-expansion-muryoo-kuusho-six-eyes-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-2102848127558680877

[soft bobcat]

Finally got the Chad Kabr and kinda like him ngl

Maybe the most old school Titan feeling character in the game so far

[karmic chasm]

Oh I’m literally so cooked

[karmic chasm]

Oh dude he’s sweet. I agree that he feels like a proper Titan.

He does feel like he’s missing a couple things. First, he should have innate overshield generation, and second, his laser should do more damage before the T4 boost

[dusty spire]

He’s great and mechanically he feels really smooth

[dusty spire]

He’s a wall guard overshield ect is the least thing you want, maybe the emergency shield break on but ideally you wanna play your walls

[empty turtle]

Bro has 3 barrier and you still want an shield 💀💀

[dusty spire]

Plus he procs recovery through his wall blind loops

[karmic chasm]

Yea, but if he had os I could literally use all my Rossi artifacts.

[dusty spire]

And the wall are extremely solid

[karmic chasm]

Maru has a rechargeable bubble that constantly procs artifacts, but she gets overshield

[karmic chasm]

This is very true. It’s just a small want. Anyway, I get overshield because of my artifacts.

[worldly hazel]

Gotta get that time down 😭

[empty turtle]

His barrier has a longer up time and he gains damage resistance, you can shoot through his barrier which give extra damage

[karmic chasm]

He’s doing his best 🙏
My first expanse 30 took 20 minutes

[worldly hazel]

That was stage 20 😭🥀💔

[karmic chasm]

I’m just saying innate generation would be a sweet bonus. It’s like a why not kinda thing. I do play his barriers, especially with the current bosses in GMs and calamity

[karmic chasm]

Nah I know. But he’ll get there lol.

[worldly hazel]

Pretty sure my first few runs were that long aswell haha

[soft bobcat]

No one is speedrunning 11-20 I go afk in that all the time 😂

[empty turtle]

Nah he’s already balanced, his other ability also blinds

[karmic chasm]

ahem

I want Steve to be unbalanced 😃
Lmao

[empty turtle]

Gaining overshield like maru would be an over kill

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/thegoon-bigoldgoon-ted-lasso-yes-yes-yes-yes-gif-701975896996955852

[idle osprey]

Hello, could you show me which trick you're using today?

[worldly hazel]

I love the vagueness

[karmic chasm]

Does anyone unironically like New Kabr’s helmet?

[empty kettle]

Yes

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-chosen-one-you-were-the-chosen-one-gif-7521423

[soft bobcat]

Umeko seems like she's a lowkey good light link for Chad Kabr because of this maybe?

[karmic chasm]

I had to cover it. I hate it so much. Where is my vex Kabr

[worldly hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-fire-writing-on-fire-writing-water-fire-writing-water-writing-gif-7366435479761399531

[empty kettle]

Could be a Clanker in disguise

[idle osprey]

a screenshot to check what you are using for the team challenge

[soft bobcat]

His ghost even says "You know, I actually really liked your old Turban" 😂

[merry anvil]

Does anyone know when the contest for crota actually starts? lmao

[soft bobcat]

don't think so. I think everyone is still waiting for time zone confirmation

[merry anvil]

Great lmao

[eager cedar]

As someone trying to coordinate people, the fact we dont know this currently is a pain

[indigo harbor]

J

[wheat ferry]

Thought it was 10pm PST

[bitter estuary]

guys im nearing wave 99 but

is it better to die at wave 98 or go for 99 bc i heard you cant claim rewards at 99

[thorny obsidian]

99 just for the flex

[sharp talon]

do endless solo rewards cap out at wave 15 or do you get more every three rounds after that?

[thorny obsidian]

15 is cap yeah

[bitter estuary]

damn

[twilit thistle]

I don't think anyone knows when it starts.
According to what I have in game (and thatdonfc), it would be 6am pst. (ofcourse i had it right originally)
In another server i see 11:00 PM
And you've just stated 10pm PST

[soft bobcat]

@merry anvil Okay yeah guess it's confirmed here. #💭│main-chat message

[elder marten]

anyone got any tips for what towers to use for endless wave 15 solo?

[eager cedar]

Didnt they Last time have this and then there was a countdown after it so it was same across all timezones?

[twilit thistle]

That would have to get announced in game at this point.

[wheat ferry]

7am UK is 11pm PST so I was still wrong lmao

Weird they're doing it at 11pm though for the streamers

[twilit thistle]

Is that patch notes? This is in the game.

[wheat ferry]

It's the #⛳enter-the-wager event and links to #📅│event-news for it

[eager cedar]

I'm so confused why they dont just say a time on their social media pages like last time.

[brisk mango]

So I've noticed the recommended power level for the upcoming Crota's End in this game is 59000 (which is insane as I can't get my characters to that power level (its not that I won't but the game lags on me or sporadically crashes quite frequently)) so it still possible to try it if your power level is below that?

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar what time did it launch last time?

[merry anvil]

The race shows 2:00 am my time tho in est

Which doesnt make any sense at all. Main reason why im even asking lmao

[elder wing]

So they are doing it very early for some regions and quite late for others

Well I guess people have to stay awake quite awhile till they complete it lol

[wheat ferry]

Yeah EST is 3 hours ahead of PST but GMT is 8 hours ahead of PST.

[elder wing]

They should’ve just made one server…

[sharp talon]

you can try but i think enemies will do more damage to you

[merry anvil]

Okay but that doesnt change anything about what i said. Its 2 in the morning

[eager cedar]

This claims its 12am on the 4th for my time, while the in-game event timer states it will be 7pm on the 3rd for my time

[brisk mango]

Fine by me, I'm just in it for the Symmetry and the weapons exclusive to it, besides due to my lag issues I normally relegate myself to a support role (I did that in the Eclipse Monolith Gauntlet Onslaught)

[elder wing]

The rewards are for first day clear or first team?

[twilit thistle]

This would have been stated. I found this in the other offical server. (note its central time for me). Growing concern is because the offical in game timer is clearly bugged.

[floral abyss]

The animated emblem? Top x number of teams with the shortest clear time at the end of a 2 day period from when it goes live

There’s also most likely going to be a non animated version of the emblem for getting a clear within that 2 day period

[brisk mango]

I wonder how Kabr fits that turban inside his helmet