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[dusty spire]

I don’t want to be a hell in a mob based mab with melee mob rushing bouncing me around. And a bunch of Shinks I can’t handle. I’d rather bench her and use something that’s CC based.

But will see how it goes once that content is released both calamity and others.

[ashen bane]

Is there any reason to use bp weapons

[gritty rune]

The upgraded BP that you pay £5 more for gives you another 40

[cyan tide]

Did you read my comment?

[gritty rune]

Oh right yeah oops you do need another 30. Brainfarted

[twilit owl]

Yeah always needing to wait until the next BP to get the cat band is a frustrating experience

[dusty spire]

lol I was thinking the same what gives lol, someone make wrong calculation in HQ?

[gritty rune]

The cabal guys with 2 hammers? It doesn’t really matter, you just maw him down like anything else

[dusty spire]

Glimmer compensation for incorrect amount given lol

[cyan tide]

The one saving grace of bp weapons is that bp weapon tokens don't expire so you can just hold on to them until there's a weapon you really want

[south cargo]

anyone know if summons are aoe damage?

[twilit owl]

They gave the ai an incorrect prompt

[dusty spire]

Yes I get you concept but if that was the case then we would see every other Ning having no problem with calamity rn. Instead the nings actuall doing well are built and skilled.

[cyan tide]

What summons? Estela's are single target iirc, same goes for Helhest's

[south cargo]

oh right, was just wondering if the new aoe damage artifact would work

[dusty spire]

Understand that fundamentally having the right damage reduction in your art can drastically help lol

[cyan tide]

It doesn't, though I've heard rampaging pact is actually good for Maru since her shield is technically a summon

[gritty rune]

But CO right now is still full of nings and helhests

[south cargo]

yeah maru is just the best, ive tried everything to make estela good for this calamity and shes so mid, managed to get a 5:54 in expanse with her which is a whole 40 secs slower than maru

[gritty rune]

They just have 1 Maru to deal with the barrage

[twilit owl]

If you have 1 good piercing and 1 good spread with you Estela can do fine, but they carrying you mechanics wise

[gritty rune]

Wait what, does that mean you can just spam it to heal with healing pact?

[cyan tide]

Apparently

[south cargo]

in master ive only managed a 380k

[gritty rune]

The weird technicalities with her shield just keeps giving lol. It already lets you reload 2 shots into a light GL

[twilit owl]

Yeah she can damage but the others need to pop the shrinks and shields for you

[south cargo]

best i can proabably get is a 390k maybe hopefully thats enough for a master 2 promotion

[dusty spire]

most the nings will not get you a successful run you want…..I applaud the attempts though.

[gritty rune]

But they… do? Like, you can check the leaderboards yourself

[dense rapids]

Cat band?

[quaint orbit]

Catalyst band

[dusty spire]

Yes the skilled and built successful ones.

[nimble plank]

camping finally finished, have to admit, last missions were amazing

[tight talon]

okay why is a perk dependent on another perk lol

Sinful Karma > Hyperaemia

[gritty rune]

But that’s like, the people who care about placing in CO

People who don’t care about pushing scores just use whatever they like and built because the power req is so low

I’ll probably never use it but it’s still nice

[spice wigeon]

You can get more from the black market

[cyan tide]

I know

[low tinsel]

All f2p?

[gritty rune]

The cost is ridiculous tho

Which is really stupid because it means if you are F2P, you basically can’t get any of the new exotics they introduce until we get a new raid

[patent widget]

anybody here buying acc?

[cyan tide]

If you're f2p bp weapons just aren't worth it, you need to buy 3 copies instead of 2 which increases the cost to 750k black market coins (you only get 10 weapon tokens from the f2p track)
And that's assuming you get the discounted weapon, if you don't then the cost is 900k

[dusty spire]

No I’ve spent but most of my lumi at this point is what’s been given free. - that daily thing

[dusty spire]

But you do get the freebies lol 😂

It’s premium that’s all like paying a subscription to Netflix to watch gated shows.

[hasty ocean]

Hate to say it but dual loader is not useful for Dps only firing line is best

[half sun]

got her at 30 pity TIME TO WRECK IT

[empty kettle]

No

[late thistle]

guys whats shifting shrine?

[thorny obsidian]

thats where the boss spawns in shifting gates

[solar viper]

I didn't buy the Trinity Ghoul catalyst from the vendors here before, and now it's not even available in the new season—it might be discontinued

[thorny obsidian]

you can craft it,,,,

[solar viper]

Can’t

[solar viper]

I don't see anywhere to craft it🤔

[thorny obsidian]

sorry was wrong. thought you could craft this one.

should be added in a coming season

[solar viper]

Hope

[gritty rune]

I like dual loader though, reloading on shotguns is just annoyingly slow

[boreal river]

Just get line formation with exotic mod with magazine increase and win

[shadow mango]

Spraying and praying!

[hasty ocean]

Anyone else think that the devs should include some unique cosmetics for certain weapons like Royal Contravene, Riot shotty, Crimson and Izzy

[solar viper]

I really like it. It would be great if there were more styles available

[hasty ocean]

I hope Honestly the devs add some proper cosmetics then the mid tier cosmetics we got

[gritty rune]

There are

[half sun]

the things i need to level her and get gear are in shifting gates but is she good in shifting gates?

[solar viper]

Like Destiny 2 skins? Destiny 2 has a lot of cool skins👍

[gritty rune]

Standard banner illustrations give exotic weapon skins and there’s a few in the shop

[hasty ocean]

Gallows and Partridge skins are terrible designs

[hasty ocean]

Not on about those just talking about ones that release in the store that have some sort of appeal

[hasty ocean]

Yh like those type of styles instead of bland copy pastes we have in DR (except the illustrations they are alr)

[gritty rune]

Wouldn’t hold out hope tbh, seems like a small team running this game

[hasty ocean]

Yh true just hoping we get some similar skins from D2 added in DR with some sort of familiar style

[solar viper]

Almost every player in Asia has given up hope on this game—there's barely any content left.
😞

[true mauve]

Whats "stage cleared" considered in shifting gates? Does glutton have 100 uptime in there?

[mental dagger]

first try again
winners win

[true mauve]

S4, in meantime we get mini events. This game isnt meant to be no lifed

[solar viper]

I've seen it, but it feels similar🤔

[true mauve]

Its holiday time, between halloween and xmas we almost never get new content in gachas. Devs on vacation

[solar viper]

I recall the developers mentioning there would be two major updates each year, but the wait has been far too long, leaving players feeling bored

[true mauve]

Game only 2-3 months old 💀 everyone knows a gachas first year is like early access and they dont get good or start the real creep until 1st anni

1st anni makes or breaks every game

Also DR is cool, I can not touch it for a month and come back and not really miss a thing

Enjoy this lull and lack of content, f2p should enjoy the 0 creep and focus on maxing all their mythics

Whales dont dominate this game, this is foreign territory in gacha

[hasty ocean]

While they are feeling bored Causals (me and others) are getting better loot, items, Exotics, upgrades and Character's so we're able to be prepped for the next season every time and going through it like a breeze

[solar viper]

Even before this game came out, something felt off, so we decided to spend the money—I'll just keep buying Destiny 2 DLC instead

[true mauve]

See Zelus is using the lack of content to his advantage. As soon as something drops he has a character rdy for whatever it is

[true mauve]

I never play D1 or D2, im a gacha guy

[dusk quiver]

this game is hard yeesh

[true mauve]

This isnt Destiny, this is a Gacha Shooter which shooter games are also newish to me

[wheat ferry]

All looter shooters are gacha games. You just spend your time instead of stamina👀

[solar viper]

This game seems designed to make you endlessly grind for materials, giving the illusion of richness. In reality, the developers might not be actively working on it, just pretending there's plenty of content

[dusty spire]

Sounds like you know what a digital collectors game is 💎💯

[true mauve]

I have to use a remote controller to play 😭 💀

[dusk quiver]

you don’t have a neuralink?

[dusty spire]

Anyone knows the collectors market can be pricey both tangible and digital

[true mauve]

Thats every gacha, this same convo been had in every gacha server ever made

[dusty spire]

It’s because players are still new to the experience 🙂
not to bad of a Learning curve imo

[hasty ocean]

Thx I just seen an opportunity of being better while people are just being lazy waiting for updates to see if it's even playable which makes them lack behind progression while some people focus on optimising their playstyle and better weaponary to be better equipped each season

[true mauve]

Destiny players dont understand gacha
Gacha players dont understand Destiny

[solar viper]

Yes But I feel like other gacha games, other games, can be played for a long time at a stretch.

[dusty spire]

🥶 first part more so than the 2nd imo though

[true mauve]

I pvp, i do 0 pve unless I need something. I stay pinnacle capped prob 5 days a week and dont use it

[true mauve]

Not the games in first 2-3 months like this one is...

[cinder sigil]

goated i am still missing this

[hasty ocean]

I always use mine for Fusion core grinds and weekly grinds

[solar viper]

Destiny 2 is a notoriously challenging game, and figuring out its mechanics is tough. The Rising expansion is one of those things that could push players to quit—it's just too hard. A classic Destiny raid

[true mauve]

Nothing counts in pvp its all balanced to lvl 1, so all I need is 50k lightbearers to compete

[hasty ocean]

Dam that's one crazy grind

[dusk quiver]

i miss leviathan / eater of worlds

[dusty spire]

Yup and during Morgan hunt makes makes burning into campaign for resources much more an easier decision lol

[true mauve]

Just gimme more pvp content, pve stuff is weird anyway. I dont wanna fight bots all day

[stray kindle]

well if they dont pull enough ppl they cant do that tbf

[solar viper]

However, this game focuses on PvE content

[true mauve]

We have new shifty modifiers and maps in season2 so far, and new pvp event end of this month

[true mauve]

S2 says its a pvp season, lots of focus on pushing people to play shifty for rewards

[white fossil]

epic spot

[dusty spire]

The gacha game is the pool and we are the fishes.

From common to extremely rare.

It’s simple as that. Gacha and the banners is the baits used to reel in. Simple model love the pond know the pond and navigate lol

[solar viper]

Yes Yes, this is your preference

However, in Destiny 2, both PvE and PvP content are rich and diverse, with PvP also placing significant emphasis on

[true mauve]

Im hoping S3 tower defense is a PvP map

[hasty ocean]

Yh it's gonna be so fun with a Ning and 2 Marus causing some chaos like a literal World War Z movie

[true mauve]

I hearya, how much did you pay for Destiny 2, how much per DLC? This game is free and you rep a f2p title these devs owe you nothing. Give it time to get good

Other games have to be good on launch because you spent money

These games need money at launch to get good

[solar viper]

🤣 maybe Approximately NT$2,000–3,000 per year
I forgot

DLC is expensive

[lyric skiff]

S4 before a new map n its not even a new map its an expansion 😪

[true mauve]

If we all paid $50+ USD on dlc every few months then Netease would have plenty of money. Instead they have to focus on a group of whales to make bank while f2p are always upset at them

[solar viper]

Rising is pretty interesting. Even though Wolf is the first character you get, he's still quite strong and keeps F2P players engaged

[hasty ocean]

This is a true statement bc alot games benefit from the launch so that they are able to be better every update and provide more to the game and community of the players to keep them interested, interactive and engaging with the game more money spent on it more it gets better

[true mauve]

Take whatever I get, cant complain im just here for fun. When I quit enjoying it I will play something else. Nbd

[lyric skiff]

Wolfs a nice change from the usual weak mc's

[true mauve]

Free T6 and he wrecks in PvP also

[true mauve]

How many surveys we have now? How many PAID events for videos and glazing new lightbearers?

Even I won a $5 card for rossi love

[lyric skiff]

Ning>wolf>estella in pvp imo

[true mauve]

Uhh Umeko bro

[hasty ocean]

Well it's only been a few months so we're not near the annual investment being put into the game maybe in time we'll see how far they invested

[solar viper]

Other game first Five-star character

[lyric skiff]

Never see umeko's in gates like ever

[true mauve]

This game has good bones, it has potential fr

[true mauve]

Lookit leaderboard for NA lol

[lyric skiff]

Im emea

[true mauve]

Dang, lemme come.play with you

[coarse sparrow]

he's dripped out though

[hasty ocean]

I did and went against one and got absolutely wrecked their aim is cracked

[lyric skiff]

Can do i pvp in evening usually

[true mauve]

Im in top 50 here

[coarse sparrow]

He got them aero-11s

[lyric skiff]

Q is too dead for tht 🤣

[solar viper]

So Rising is good game 👍

[lyric skiff]

Even post merge gates is dead

[coarse sparrow]

gud game yes

[true mauve]

Ours is super alive since S2. I wait 5 mins at most. Make a NA account PvP doesnt need min max invest because of Fair Play

[lyric skiff]

Ping prolly horrid for me i get 160 in gates cuz of merge usually i get 40-50ms but gates kills it

[true mauve]

Dang, unplayable

[hasty ocean]

It's just lacks in the current situation in the player base and community only thing we can hope for is to be patient and just see this game go beyond our expectations

[lyric skiff]

I blame my phone too it lags alot

[solar viper]

Wait until the official announcement of a major update in January

[dark gulch]

mornin. What is going on with the scores for cal ops

[hasty ocean]

Just hoping this game doesn't die it would be a waste of potential

[solar viper]

I remember it was about new map and raid🤔 I forgot

[flint kite]

How good is the new exotic? Is it worth buying the pass for?

Trinity disappointed me, so i hope the gl is great

[hasty ocean]

Trust me it's worth it plus it one taps spread shinkas shield apparently haven't tested it yet but I will

[flint kite]

Also seems like the game is dying? The discord seems rather quiet lol

[placid thunder]

Why this lazy devs didn't change the map for CalOps? Just gave us annoying modifier and called it quits?

[solar viper]

That's right, this game is almost gone. If the developers update it with more content

[hasty ocean]

It's anti-Ning modifier to stop them from pushing insanely fast

[placid thunder]

Could have give us different map at least

[devout horizon]

Isn’t it an anti everyone modifier

[solar viper]

Or, much like Destiny 2, after a few months pass, the developers continue to create content, providing us with a steady stream of rich new experiences

[naive ingot]

Aftermorning

[flint kite]

I imagine it was meant to promote Maru, but it hits so hard her shield is useless lol

[dark gulch]

how was your weekend

[bright tapir]

I think it's already DOA sadly. I was super hopeful for this game and the content they did release was amazing. It just doesn't have the sustainability of endgame replayability. My pack was super active 2-3 weeks ago and 80% of the members are gone. Pretty insane how it kind of just dropped off a cliff. Duet Night Abyss certainly hasn't helped. I get the impression a decent number of people were playing this until that one came out.

[dark gulch]

sure hope so

[flint kite]

Same happened to my pack.

[dark gulch]

unbelievable how Rockstar put a gazillion side quests into Red Dead Redemption 2 and after three FULL campaign runs i still had things to do

destiny pls do the same

[mortal dagger]

Which weapon should I be using with estela gallows

[flint kite]

I use Ultimatum & Gallows

[mortal dagger]

I was thinking del for the arc dmg

[dark gulch]

i use sweet ears and gallows

[solar viper]

Another drawback of this game is that it was rushed to market after only two or three years of development, yet it still needs to be made to appear expansive

[willow otter]

How do you do these puzzles ?

[dark gulch]

thats a crazy layout

but i guess tbh lol

[vocal spear]

Spray and pray

[dark gulch]

Where is this so i can do it too

[solar viper]

The most useless approach is to click randomly. Because this puzzle game requires thinking.

[bright tapir]

That's a great point. In all honesty the game feels more like a proof of concept than a full game. So many things like only releasing two sparrow racing tracks, and two Iron Bar maps, and 3 Gauntlet Ops raids. I get it that they wanted to get this out to market to gauge interest before spending another 100 million building everything else out. The issue there is its a fine balance between too much and too little. I think they released too little.

[dark gulch]

the ones for Collectibles do

[gritty rune]

Hell no, it’d just be nings and marus all over again

[willow otter]

Really

[mortal dagger]

What roll are you using for the wep

[flint kite]

Look up "Lights Out Solver"

[devout horizon]

Who wishes for pvp

[coarse sparrow]

For each button you shoot, the adjacent button will also change colour

you have to shoot to match each colour in a correct sequence

[bright tapir]

After playing 150+ hours you start to see that the game is a bit of a facade. As a new player there's the illusion that there's a ton of stuff to do but after a bit you realize most features aren't fully built out

[willow otter]

Which color am I matching red or green

[solar viper]

Yeah, I agree — it really does feel like an early build or a large-scale demo of what Destiny: Rising could become. The foundation’s solid, but the lack of content makes it hard to stay invested long-term

[vocal spear]

EXACTLY

[naive ingot]

It was things

[coarse sparrow]

Green

[flint kite]

Its leagues better than D2, so at least there's that

[gritty rune]

It really isn’t much being better than a game that’s on its way to being shut down

[bright tapir]

For sure. Which I still have hope that that's been the plan all along. Most large scale games like these can become a colossal financial failure if they build something fully out only to have it flop. Investors want to see some ROI before they hand over another check. Hopefully there's been enough interest to continue developing.

[dark gulch]

theres also the voodoo doll one that seems like a decent perk

[coarse sparrow]

it's had its 10 year run, elite game with a sad death

[devout horizon]

I want more cabal brain puzzles tbh

And I want to know how those crayon eaters figured out how to beat it

[dark gulch]

honestly

[mortal dagger]

Thanks. I appreciate it

[flint kite]

At least they gave us a real road map

[dense rapids]

Who’s playing on a iPhone 17 Pro Max?

[flint kite]

Means they aren't just gonna dump the game

[coarse sparrow]

i wish

[bright tapir]

I just hope there's enough new players starting

[gritty rune]

It’s a side project for NetEase that they don’t care much about. They’re the second biggest games studio in China and will just put the game in maintenance mode when it doesn’t make as much money as they want it to

[flint kite]

They need to release an established destiny character to bring a bunch back

[devout horizon]

Cayde

Cayde will save the game.

Or a storyline quest that involves Kabr and Venus

[gritty rune]

I don’t think it matters much tbh.

Destiny fans mostly aren’t gonna play a mobile gacha game seriously, and 80%+ of the gacha market is China+ Japan.

They need something to attract those players, and just a better endgame loop in general

[flint kite]

I'm just saying I imagine it'll bring in a lot people and hopefully by then they've solved these issues

[glass needle]

I must have

[dark gulch]

Mine isnt at its full potential bc not all mods match perks but maybe someday haha

[devout horizon]

I think I have a dark obsidian arrowhead somewhere

[gritty rune]

Personally, I just think they don’t really care. DR is just a small project they threw out to test the waters

They got Where the Winds Meet coming out this week in GL, and their current focus is on Anata

[devout horizon]

[gritty rune]

This game is a speck to them

[coarse sparrow]

that looks like it'd hurt you more 😂

[glass needle]

The blood of my enemies will run deep with that arrow head

[glass needle]

[bright tapir]

Interesting. Does Netease have a history of doing this with their other games?

[devout horizon]

Against tos btw

[gritty rune]

Yes, a ton

[glass needle]

Ya. No bueno. No selling in this server automatic ban

[finite elm]

Yo who's good in this game and can help me out rq

[devout horizon]

Who do you have

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-meme-mods-gif-14385308006689816010

[gritty rune]

They’re a huge company that makes a lot of games

[bright tapir]

Well that's a bummer. That's clearly where this is headed then. Seems like the game would have still been a net loss though. Not sure how much a Chinese dev team costs to operate but I can't imagine they've broke even

[dark gulch]

I didbt play enough of D2 but ikora is in d2?

[naive ingot]

Yes

[devout horizon]

Yes lol

[finite elm]

Check dms

[sinful totem]

She’s apart of the vanguard yes

[dark gulch]

where the heck did helhest come in LOL

[glass needle]

Also funny says you just joined yesterday lol

[dark gulch]

i see it now. I am reading and reading

[gritty rune]

I doubt they’ve got more than like 50 people making this game

[sinful totem]

She’s actually a very prominent character in Destiny 2. Her performance in rising does not reflect that unfortunately

[twilit thistle]

To be fair there are a lot of directions to take it. Dropping an old raid, or other components of the other games for example. Destiny 1 didn’t have the best launch either. I think cayde is next. There is also the option to buff F2P. I doubt there would be abandonment for a game that was #1 on the apple App Store for as long as it was.

[bright tapir]

If that's the case they may have broke even and that's good enough

It just pads their game company resume of clients

[dark gulch]

The REAL question is: If gwynn does not come back in time to tier her up should i focus on Umeko??? she seems legit

[gritty rune]

Errr it’s NetEase. Second biggest developer in China

They don’t care about padding their resume lol

[sinful totem]

I see a lot of people speak highly of umeko, she seems to be one of the better legendary characters right now

[bright tapir]

If that's the case maybe it was just a gamble hoping it would pay off. I'm assuming 99.9% of the games in the app store fail

[glass needle]

I just want to say again and again. Game has been out for about two months now. Y’all need to relax

[gritty rune]

Big companies have higher requirements for profitability and so games like this that are doing ok but not great are in more of being sidelined

[sinful totem]

Has it only been 2 months

[empty kettle]

We have not even reached its first anniversary

[glass needle]

August 28th is when it came out

[solar viper]

In the storyline, Ikora is a Warlock instructor and a formidable PvP player who once achieved a 100-match winning streak. She is a pivotal character in Destiny 2

[devout horizon]

What weapons are preferred on attal?

[thorny obsidian]

dont forget its a mobile game. people actually think they can 8 hour a day this game are insane

[dark gulch]

I really love gwynn but her concerto is lower than the mythic i am using bc no catalysts on it. not sure if its worth…also untiered

[gritty rune]

Must’ve been in shadowshaper

[dark gulch]

Umeko will be T4 next time i get her in draw

[twilit thistle]

It would also make net ease look bad, to abandon this. They care about reputation. Investors would not be happy if it was abandoned this soon.

[solar viper]

However, I feel this game will transform known characters into four-star characters🤣

[glass needle]

Literally what I’ve been saying for about a month now. People are antsy for more content and say it’s a dying game now and it’s only been out for about 2 months

[gritty rune]

They… don’t. They’ve dropped a lot of projects and they also made Diablo immortal lol.

[dark gulch]

Imagine building a startup , it goes well, then you try to sell it when it isnt doing well

[solar viper]

This game has nerfed Ikora way too much

[sinful totem]

Gwynn is very aggressive play style. Her weapons are close ranged

[finite elm]

Yo guys
What weapons are preferred on attal?

[solar viper]

Besides her super, she's still just as disgusting

[dark gulch]

its what I love. I just finished her story and i demolished the boss like nothing lol

[sinful totem]

Royal contravene id imagine

Best LFR fr fr

[dark gulch]

i have Parole and royal lol but sumit i had before

[karmic chasm]

So the consensus is that we should max weapon mastery before relic abilities right? Like full weapon mastery and 17/18 relic abilities

[dark gulch]

I don’t know why but in her story…i didnt really like her weapons..but i assume she is 99% abilities

not to flex but i have 7 master keys

[coarse sparrow]

crimson

[karmic chasm]

That’s no a flex tho, go max out some weapons 😭

[dark gulch]

[coarse sparrow]

damn i forgot i even had master keys

[dark gulch]

i know calm down i am trying. I need just a lil more mats for ning bow

[neat marsh]

Is catalyst 3 for royal contravene worth ??

[dark gulch]

i got like 50 gallows lol

[willow otter]

Update my girlfriend solved both of these puzzles 😂😭

[coarse sparrow]

if not for the power boost, no

[coarse sparrow]

bro used a lifeline to phone a friend

[sinful totem]

If you use it for ad clearing ever, sure

[dark gulch]

i kinda NEED metastable cores

[willow otter]

I live with my girl brodie

Idk how she did it but she did 😭😂

I would’ve been shooting these lights forever

[dark gulch]

someone had to help me with collectible puzzles bc in slow

where is it lol, RSR?

[deft root]

Heisenberger

[solar viper]

In Destiny 2, she uses an auto rifle🤣

[dark gulch]

WAT

[solar viper]

Because this game requires binding weapons, it's not possible

[hidden carbon]

Yeah the gl primary makes no sense

[coarse sparrow]

rsr = red sea rift

[hidden carbon]

More people would be using ikora if not for the double spread weapons

[naive ingot]

And a shotgun

[glacial junco]

What’s the best 3rd slot artifact for Maru?

[hidden carbon]

Ikora would would have been a blink shotty warlock if following the original timeline

But then there would not too much of an overlap with gwynn

[solar viper]

Moreover, her super charges extremely fast, allowing her to switch super abilities instantly😱

Then she can stay airborne indefinitely

[west violet]

Everyone who thinking NetEase cares about the game or pep‘s where play it should overthink it. Amorphous Dice and Miraclous Dice say you everything what you need to know for the future

[naive ingot]

To GM you go

[karmic chasm]

I had 3 yesterday! It was awesome. Ran Maru, Helhest, and then Rossi (kinda threw towards the end tho with Rossi, though I could tank the x beam… I could not)

He’s built different, but not that different

So the consensus is that we should max weapon mastery before relic abilities right? Like full weapon mastery and 17/18 relic abilities

[vale wolf]

How is Wolf performing in this calamity ops?

[devout horizon]

Not well along with most others

[dark gulch]

i cant…did you see it

i need a character i dont have 64k power for.

[dark gulch]

i know lol

[jade jolt]

Top 1 Global

[vale wolf]

Really? Over Maru? Surprising

[jade jolt]

Totally, carried over
Hands down🙌🏻

[frigid kraken]

Well just saying wolf is top 1 global is lying a bit but yeah main point is needing 2 helhest for clamsity to dps asap, wolf can take the role of Maru for spread and the role of ning for speed

[naive ingot]

That's my problem some days. I can atm with Attal, Rossi and Helhest

[frigid kraken]

Just running wolf in calamity without good team mates or randoms is shooting urself in the leg he does no dmg lol

[vale wolf]

I suspected this would be the reality. Thanks for the nuanced answer. Glad I built Helhest last season.

I’ll pick up my Expert II rewards and then forget about whale operations until next cycle

[frigid kraken]

Maru feel really underwhelming for this calamity. Game really is just helhest rising now

[true basin]

Morning peeps

[dark gulch]

morning

[worldly hazel]

Dobreyy utro 🌞

[naive ingot]

Afternoon 🤣

[twilit thistle]

Wolf needs buffed for pve. Either buff auto rifles, or allow wolf to any non exotic primary.

[devout horizon]

I don’t think wolf needs a buff

[frigid kraken]

I mean dude is still a 4star at the end, he’s still probably top…. Well top 2 since it uneko then wolf lmao

[worldly hazel]

Buff Tan 😶‍🌫️

[worldly hazel]

The MC should be 5* strong imo

[devout horizon]

Have you never played a gacha game before DR

[frigid kraken]

look at genshin or hsr lmao, mc only became good after a few years after they got there next element change

[worldly hazel]

Bruh I have a 30k Genshin account. The MC is strong when build properly

[blissful lintel]

zone 1 master 1, a wolf is part of the top team and they have a sub 3 minute clear getting 445k..

[worldly hazel]

I specifically said “should be IN MY OPINION” not saying that MC in other games are broken. Don’t try to twist my words. That’s weird cope lol

[true basin]

Ya boy is almost at 100 subs on YouTube. Think I might actually hit my personal goal before the end of 2025.

[worldly hazel]

I’ll drop the sub right now

[violet umbra]

Damn sub for me too plz

[true basin]

You the real mvp

[inner galleon]

I mean just 1 helhest is good enough to clear

[worldly hazel]

Are you the one with 20 subs or 15?

[violet umbra]

I just subbed you too

[true basin]

I’m 10 subs away

Also always open to feedback on the vids. Trying to learn little each day.

[worldly hazel]

DM me your YouTube links. I’ll sub to all

[true basin]

Last vid the music is a bit loud. Need to readjust it.

[inner galleon]

Helhest has insane damage is really up there and maru is really just a tank lol idk why she’s an offensive unit

[true basin]

She’s the ultimate support

[karmic chasm]

Hel yeah

[true basin]

I’m working on Maru

[karmic chasm]

Hey so is the consensus is that we should max weapon mastery before relic abilities right? Like full weapon mastery and 17/18 relic abilities

[inner galleon]

Maru is fun I definitely enjoy her playstyle

[karmic chasm]

Me too, she’s super fun. Great in the GM too bc she just blocks everything

[true basin]

That exotic grenade launcher makes all users good.

[violet umbra]

Ngl destiny been getting stale for me, I’ve been addicted to arc raiders

[indigo solar]

4/5 weapon mastery, 17/18 abilities

Only after everyone is 4/5 and 17/18 do you get 5/5

Also for Helhest and tan you want 18/18 on drone/well before weapon mastery

[karmic chasm]

Thank you, this was what I needed to know. The only two that are completely maxed on relic are Tan and Rossi, and the former was by accident in early game

[forest crystal]

Sigma

[frigid kraken]

Nahh not as easy as it look, we been trying the 1 helhest comp, some runs she kill fast, other runs, runs out of ammo

[misty karma]

lets goooo

[blissful lintel]

actually jealous of the substat roll with the 40% boost.. mine gave me rate of fire up 25%..

[dusky obsidian]

Hola, alguien para unirme a una escuadra?

[inner galleon]

Depends if they are t4 + I suppose because I’ve been doing that and I’ve had yet to run out of heavy

[thick pewter]

Finally ning&helhest 4/4 3rd 4th artefact god rolls done 🤩

Took forever

[blissful lintel]

Have fun in the chaos mines for artifactual essence..

[thick pewter]

Im good atm , both over 73k already

73.4 & 73.8k

[blissful lintel]

at the very least, I would personally be trying to get the lower stuff to T9, the 9 to 10 is a much less noticable % boost

[twilit thistle]

That’s good, but I would like to have seen wolf on the top leaderboards in the past more too, even if not #1. Wolf to me is synonymous with F2P.

[thick pewter]

Yea but thats rng

[frigid kraken]

Damn I need to recruit you, the helhest I’m running with was rank 2 last season lmao, are ur runs in master or?

[brittle osprey]

Ngl, that gate look like we could enter at one point. I just noticed

[boreal river]

The gate you came through to the boss fight??

[faint cape]

Hello

[echo horizon]

Does anyone use umeko enough that they have a good dps/support build for her?

[thick pewter]

I mean you came through it lol

[brittle osprey]

On legendary campaign, but story mission its different path

[brittle osprey]

Yeah but its like i said, the teleport we use to skip parts

[coarse sparrow]

RULES OF NATURE!!!!

[boreal river]

Legendary campaign is a condensed version it skips things because you don’t need the dialogue repeated a thousand times

[brittle osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-ray-rules-of-nature-gif-26685761

[tight talon]

i think this could be a decent build.

[brittle osprey]

Yeah exactly. So maybe it be for future vex raid

[coarse sparrow]

well done, you passed the first stage of the tutorial

now parry this 100ft sword

[brittle osprey]

Stuff that would happen in souls like game

[coarse sparrow]

literally EVERY souls like

[brittle osprey]

Now imagine souls like in destiny verse

[white fossil]

love getting exotics from no cost rewards

[true mauve]

Who doesn't want more content that interest them personally? You want pve content but what specifically like a raid, expanse, team or solo, etc? Gotta be one thing in particular you want

[coarse sparrow]

that's some sweet business right there

[hard forge]

Can you do calamity ops as a f2p?

Or if I only have t2 Ning fei?

[lyric skiff]

If ur above 70k u can get to specialist/expert

[boreal river]

I will say this once and only once PVP created a nightmare scape for regular Destiny because though it may have kept players active it took too long to separate the sandboxes the you have lag to deal with worse than a console pc connection no thanks

[hard forge]

Ok thanks

[open tiger]

does anyone know if the duelist exp gained from pvp card games are capped every day?

[lyric skiff]

Yes

[open tiger]

or not capped?

[lyric skiff]

U can win somewhere betwen 10-20 matches

Itll tell u before match if u wont get anymore xp

Same way as the duelist coins

[open tiger]

and is it 500 exp per game?

[lyric skiff]

It varies 500 per win

Losses give nothing

[open tiger]

ok so after a certain amount it stopped giving exp after winning

[lyric skiff]

Yep

[open tiger]

thanks

[lyric skiff]

Anytime

[mystic token]

contemplating whether or not to save extra exotics incase they decide to make more catalyst bands in the future

[soft bobcat]

It's definitely more than 10 per day I stopped counting past 10 once. Exp depends on your level

[tight talon]

sad

[jade jolt]

Guys, can amorphous artifact be used more than once on same attribute of same artifact?

[tight talon]

no. one artifact substat of your choice rolled randomly. take it or waste the dice and never be able to do it again

[empty kettle]

What?

[tight talon]

he either means no modifiers or power levels

[hardy warren]

I just hit endgame im account lvl 71 is there a gearing up guide?

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[jade jolt]

So it rolls randomly on one attribute and then if it gets bad not possible to reroll attribute? What's the point so😂

[torn otter]

Hi, is there no exotic perks on mythic weapons?

[blissful sky]

Anyone know what counts as surge assignments in shifting gates? And do you really need to complete 10 in one session or is it cumulative?

[vapid ibex]

Don’t wanna say I told you so but told ya wolf would be #1 this calamity 🤣

[violet sonnet]

its the objectives that give super, and its 10 matches idk why it says 10 in 1 game

[tight talon]

just follow modifiers for current content & build characters for next one. Currently is Arc Precision/Void Spread changing into Void Spread/Solar Impact next.

[tight talon]

well 2 in 4 odds that its not bad.

[blissful sky]

Ahh ok so you can only get 1 credit per game?

[frigid kraken]

What?

[tight talon]

yes

[tight talon]

nope. Mythic is top

[lyric skiff]

U know u get to pick what slot and attribute u get ?

Its not random at all btw

[soft bobcat]

🤔 Guess your NA ain't no Wolves in top 20 EMEA

[blissful sky]

Guess I have to pay attention to which things give super 😂😅 Like those spire things on the ground that you have to interact with and they give some data?

[vapid ibex]

445k is the score rn in NA

[tight talon]

thats for the premium one. Miraculous Dice. Amphorous one rolls substat randomly

[torn otter]

5 times 475xp
7 times 150xp
Per day

I think

[lyric skiff]

.

[torn otter]

Thanks

[lyric skiff]

He said amorphous u gave wrong info

[jade jolt]

So if I have an almost god roll artifact what the point to ruin it with random shiiiit

[tight talon]

what

[devout horizon]

I didn’t mean in a “oh nobody wants PvP” way. I meant it in a “has anyone asked for pvp in this game legitimately” way

Nothing wrong with wanting pvp.

[soft bobcat]

Damn you guys go hard early. I haven't even done it once most of EMEA doesn't even start til week 2 😅

[lyric skiff]

Did i get it wrong way round 🤣i only had 1

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/hakari-hakari-kinji-kinji-hakari-kinji-jackpot-gif-12339332929838481118

[tight talon]

yes, yes u did

[vapid ibex]

Ahhh yeah, it’s a 3x kill btw

[jade jolt]

Btw will watch a video didn't get any clarified on its correct usage, don't want to ruin my artifact

[tight talon]

almost a god roll can be a fully god roll. but its just luck

[soft bobcat]

I can believe it though his GL is crazy good

[vapid ibex]

He does no damage we just use him for speed, he’s 6% of final damage stats

[blissful sky]

For my Helhest United Axion artifact I only had 3/4 thumbs up perks and my fourth was solar boost. So I used the dice to randomly reroll that attribute into something better. There was a chance it could've rerolled into void boost or vulnerability boost, which would've sucked, but thankfully it rerolled into ability strength 🙌

[soft bobcat]

Oh then why him over Ning for speed? 🤔

[lyric skiff]

What a bad item lmao

[vapid ibex]

Spread

[devout horizon]

Anyways, how’s y’all’s Veterans Day going so far (or if you’re not in America, how’s your Tuesday?)

[past flame]

I still don’t understand how the dice works🗿 is there a video of someone using it, couldn’t find anything on yt

[brittle osprey]

Surviving. Hbu

[soft bobcat]

ah okay so he just hits the shinkas

[empty kettle]

Average Tuesday in Sweden as usual

[brittle osprey]

It just rerolls artifact attribute

[tight talon]

its for people who wont shell out money so they dont feel cheated, but i rather very well get a 4 substats rerolled for this item than 1 substat rerolled

[devout horizon]

Same tbh

[lyric skiff]

Yea 1 random slot rerolled is bs if u cant undo it n redo

[past flame]

For how many artifacts tho

[devout horizon]

Better average than worse than average 🔥

[brittle osprey]

Tbh even if i was american, even veteran day would be another tuesday lol

[lyric skiff]

I feel cheated still🤣

[tight talon]

pick a stat that doesnt have thumbsup, 2 in 6 chances that that it will be a thumbsup

[blissful sky]

Look at what I just commented above this explaining how I used my dice

[vapid ibex]

Yeah but I’ve told people already that wolf is faster than ning but they fan boy too much, you can trigger his dash 3 times in one second

[brittle osprey]

I dont celebrate this stuff. Im simply living, enjoying gaming or parties

[past flame]

Will do thanks

[lyric skiff]

Wolf resets>ning t6

[blissful sky]

@past flame

[devout horizon]

Eh. I’m in a military family so it kinda means something to me. I made my parents eggs, bacon, and French toast this morning to have in bed

[lyric skiff]

U gotta killl the ads for resets

[brittle osprey]

Oh cool

[past flame]

Real question is how many artifacts u can edit with it?

[wicked root]

Man long as queues this game is dead

[lyric skiff]

I love outrunning nings 🤣

[tight talon]

one per one dice

if you edited it before, cant do it again

[past flame]

Oof so it’s just for one artifact 💔🥀 welp

[blissful sky]

One and done 😭 If the substat rerolls from one trash attribute to another trash attribute, it's a waste

[devout horizon]

Family by family basis. I don’t fault people for not enjoying the holiday or even celebrating it at all. It’s niche

[true mauve]

Lol there is a following, but pvp community doesnt hang out here for some reason

[lyric skiff]

What pvp? Gates is always dead 😂

Spend longer in q than in matches

[frigid kraken]

Player vs player

[true mauve]

I told you come NA

[lyric skiff]

Ik what pvp is 😂

[empty kettle]

And laggy, EMEA after merge experience

[frigid kraken]

Oh sorry you said what PvP got confused

[blissful lintel]

just gotta queue at the right times, I did like 15 matches last night with 2-3 minute queues tops

[blissful sky]

Yeah you can really only play it during peak hours to have a chance to queue, like right after ppl get off work

[lyric skiff]

Same for me from 40ms to 160+

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/snl-saturday-night-live-roxbury-jim-carrey-chris-kattan-gif-16659338

[lyric skiff]

Then its full of 3x ning sweats on pc

[past flame]

I wasn’t worried about that, I thought i can take my chances on multiple artifacts, but using it only on 1 artifact and it’s gone is diabolical specially when we can only get 1-2 of them now

[soft bobcat]

Yeah I can definitely see Wolf being faster on this map

[blissful sky]

Maru is a beast in pvp tho fr, went 9-1 in my second iron bar match ever

[blissful lintel]

How??

[lyric skiff]

Imma make a NA rn for u 😂

[hardy warren]

But like what guns per character, what relics, etc etc

[true mauve]

Play umeko, always engage from distance. Make sure to have T2 for double dash

[lyric skiff]

I dont have her 🤣never got her yet

[blissful sky]

Yuuuup 🥲🫠 That's why ppl were so mad about it, thinking it was a huge QOL improvement only to end up failing the reroll and be forced to go back to doing thousands more stages of chaos

[lyric skiff]

Need her and maru still have everyone else

[true mauve]

Oh man. She soooo good in shifty

[lyric skiff]

I usually go wolf 😂

Ill kill most mobile players easy

[true mauve]

Wolf is also pro

[indigo solar]

Dash > bar refills > dash > super > dash, he's not as consistently fast as Ning tho

[lyric skiff]

Conditionally faster id say

U need resets from mobs

[blissful sky]

Fr man

Although the one annoying thing is her second catalyst on the drill isn't counted in SG so you have to mentally adjust from straight shots to arc shots again

[blazing cairn]

Do these random chats actually mean anything? or just random

[empty kettle]

Low health mobs at that

[past flame]

Well I wouldn’t say I’m mad about that after finding out the truth of it just now. I’m definitely disappointed tho, but overall it’s a first step into the right direction

[lyric skiff]

Most content 1shot mobs

[soft bobcat]

Yeah like I said I could see Wolf being faster than Ning on this Calamity map. The Cabal map though no shot

[true mauve]

Top lightbearers for top50 shifty gates in NA

1. Ning
2. Umeko
3. Wolf
4. Estella
5. Maru

List was same minus Maru in S1

[surreal berry]

Umeko... Confining enemies???

[indigo solar]

Just flavour text (the "document" he uploads is ai btw, no real text)

[true mauve]

This is why I dont pve 🤣

[indigo solar]

She confines enemies after super or three shurikens

[surreal berry]

Her Ability is debuff and Deal dmg...
what type of Confinement?...

[lyric skiff]

Tiny qol but im soo glad my layout carries over between servers 👏🏻

[surreal berry]

the layout is bound to account...
Why would it reset?...

[lyric skiff]

U know how many other games it does?

[true mauve]

Some people i swear

[surreal berry]

OH... SLOW movement...

[indigo solar]

Keep reading

[true mauve]

Hey what artifact was recovery based I cant find it and swore there was one

[indigo solar]

Talisman of Unity iirc

[devout horizon]

According to Gregg, there’s also people who don’t know Jolder’s shield can be recalled (and does damage when doing so)

So like the expectations get lower by the day

[true mauve]

OH... SLOW reading...

[surreal berry]

https://tenor.com/view/throwing-shield-captain-america-chris-evans-the-avengers-gif-10638908

[indigo solar]

Yep

[true mauve]

Nah it had a trigger for Recovery status not heals

[true mauve]

It also auto recalls when you slam

[surreal berry]

I use this one.

[devout horizon]

Would have been hilarious if Jolder just used her fist to slam if she didn’t have the shield

[summer ledge]

Inspiration gives bonus damage for having constant healing if that was the one you were thinking of.

[indigo solar]

Are you talking about the attribute that gives a chance for attacks not to interrupt recovery?

[surreal berry]

I also use the artifact that Focuses on healing with this artifact.

[true mauve]

Maybe? Coulda swore it was like a dmg bonus when you triggered recovery

[tight talon]

Uh she does?

[indigo solar]

This is the only other one

[tight talon]

Depends. Right now if you aren't pulling Maru, the. Ikora is the one you need to build. With Present Fleet and Twin Tailed Fox.

[true mauve]

It was shadow removed because no use or I was dreaming it up then

[tight talon]

Excuse me wtf

[covert nymph]

Quick question, why doesn’t my current rank show up?

[surreal berry]

This one... I would use with Defense characters.

[surreal berry]

Only for Group activities.

[molten pulsar]

Pulled Maru first try. :3

[tight talon]

It's my build

[true mauve]

Ok last question now that im certified crazy, what is end of stage for clear in shifty gate, does this perk 100 uptime?

[molten pulsar]

Now just gotta pull some dayum pack mates

[summer ledge]

Either the drops were weighted for Helhest or pulling one at a time significantly reduces them. When I did 10 at a time I always got her within 20, but doing them as I get them with Maru I have had to go to hard pity both times.

[indigo solar]

Pretty sure everything is one stage in gates

[covert nymph]

Quick question, why doesn’t my current rank for my character show? It’s only has a dash

[true mauve]

Didnt know if each phase like detector, prime anomaly, double drops, counted as stage

[summer ledge]

Might mean you are down so far it is not able to calculate immediately.

[covert nymph]

I was top 5 last reset

[indigo solar]

Don't think so. That said, enhanced black body has similar max boost (57% vs 60%) but requires 5 kills to max instead of 24, as long as you don't die

[covert nymph]

Not the same rank with my Ning but he also has a dash. My other characters do not have the dash

[true mauve]

Yeah was debating between them

[indigo solar]

Placebo

[real delta]

heyooo guys 😄 gmgm

anyone else hyped af about Jaren?

[true mauve]

Oh yeah, no mods in shifty gates they dont count. All perks are set to lvl 0 💀 sorry wrong guy

[tight talon]

It's just how lottery works. Not defending it. But I always had to go 40-50 pulls for all characters till now

[summer ledge]

If it is popular characters then it probably is farther down. Everyone plays Ning, and depending on your other character it might be the same, especially since the server merge.

[true mauve]

Oh yeah, no mods in shifty gates they dont count. All perks are set to lvl 0 💀

35 vs 37.5 and easy enough to merc 5 monsters on respawn

[surreal berry]

WHOM is that?.

[true mauve]

Wont even test glutton in it, ty!

[indigo solar]

I mean it is worth trying, they could be scaled differently in gates

[jade jolt]

Only #senzamani in calamity ops

[glass needle]

Gonna play some call to arms for the crossbow

[surreal berry]

I'm dead Srs

[summer ledge]

Depending on how this defense mode works, I imagine Glutton might have more value with the enhanced trait.

[true mauve]

Maybe but re reading glutton it says final blow with this weapon while others are just final blows. Im using all comers welcome right now but it only last 8 secs

[summer ledge]

Specifically for that, but I plan on trying it.

[indigo solar]

Others also require them to be with that weapon

[true mauve]

Lame

[rotund flume]

Pretty lame how I was getting 2-3 character pulls for every 10 draws and now I’m only getting 1 for every 10

[viscid night]

How to tell which exotic artifact trigger for legendary weapons without having to have equip exotic on it? Idk if the question make sense 😕

[jade jolt]

Oh damn poor you, I would cry at Jesus feet for that

[karmic chasm]

@indigo solar if I made Maru 5/5 I’d be at the final acclaim bonus, so it feels worth it since she’s now my void main, and I’ll likely pull her t1 as well

[rotund flume]

Make sure you swallow before you take another load from the devs

[jade jolt]

Making others swallowing tbh

[tight talon]

First. Exotic Artifacts usually trigger on conditions. Like using skill, standing still, gaining Overshields, inflicting specific debuffs on enemies.

Second, they do trigger for all weapons but effects and whether you are fulfilling the conditions for said effects depends.

[surreal berry]

If a... Legendary, MYTHIC or Exotic weapon would trigger a Artifact effect?...

[viscid night]

Sorry I meant mods 🤦‍♂️

[surreal berry]

The Perks or the weapon?...

[lyric skiff]

@true mauve trolling me with 2x umeko in 1st pull

[tight talon]

You don't need Exotic Mods for Legendary weapons. Mythic mods trigger the legendary perk cause they meet the lvl 5 perk requirment.
Although don't expect the perk to have hidden bonuses at legendary level

[karmic chasm]

If you use her right she’s one of the best in game for PvE, and the second best overall PvP (tho talents don’t matter there ig)

[true mauve]

I sent you the luck you needed fr

[surreal berry]

UMEKO is awesome!

[lyric skiff]

If only it was on my main 🤣

[karmic chasm]

Having multiple accounts is just painful, why would you do that to yourself

[lyric skiff]

Pvp is dead in emea

[rotund flume]

The only character you really need is t6 Ning fei. The fact he still runs through every single content is crazy

[karmic chasm]

Aw man

[lyric skiff]

I go NA to fight 😆

Its purely a gates acct

[bright tapir]

2-3 character pulls every 10 draws is some absolutely insane luck. I dont know anyone that was routinely getting that. Ive had that happen once in like 200 draws

[rotund flume]

I was definitely getting that the first month the game came out

[lyric skiff]

T0 take it or leave it 🤣

[bright tapir]

Consider yourself lucky. Not something to get used to though

[lyric skiff]

Im too broke for t6s

[true mauve]

Hows MS? Hope latency is good

[rotund flume]

I mean it was obviously purposely done it wasn’t luck

[lyric skiff]

140ms in pve havent connected to anyone yet

[bright tapir]

What proof do you have of that? Considering there are three players in my household and none of us experienced that

[lyric skiff]

I also got loads in 1st pulls cant lie

[jade jolt]

Ye he is trolling af

[lyric skiff]

Most my 4* r almost t6 😂

[rotund flume]

Are you a dev or something?

[bright tapir]

Interesting. Not me 😭

[glass needle]

Draws are RNG

[lyric skiff]

Rng does love me usually

[bright tapir]

Technically yes. Not for this game though lol. Are you a dev?

[rotund flume]

Mmm idk how I had perfect rng then and now I have zero rng🤷🏻‍♂️ idk about that

[lyric skiff]

The only thing i develop r rashes😆

[bright tapir]

I mean that's literally how rng works though

Ever been to a casino? Theres good days and bad days

[rotund flume]

I could prolly start a new account rn and have amazing rng again for the first 50 draws

[glass needle]

You’re not going to characters on every single draw. That’ll beat the purpose of the gotcha style game 😐😐😐

[bright tapir]

I remember so many people struggling to get Gwynn and that was a month ago

[viscid night]

@tight talon @surreal berry I appreciate the help. I found out was looking for . I didn't realise exotic mods get a random upgrade perk so if I want to have the correct mod I need to roll it a few times to get what I was looking for 😓

[lyric skiff]

I got my gwynn in 25 pulls

[cold nebula]

im looking for a team of 2 people for calamity ops, im70k ning fei

[rotund flume]

I mean more than 1 every 10 draws would be nice especially when you need like what 15 for a t6?

[tight talon]

Oo. No worries. Happy to help

[glass needle]

Literally not a guarantee.

[bright tapir]

The only "struck gold" i got was with Gwynn. Two pulls in like 30 draws. After that the rng gods hated me

[viscid night]

I did ask the wrong question in the beginning 🫠🙃

[lyric skiff]

I still had no double 5*s

[rotund flume]

It was for the first month :/

[glass needle]

This is the draw possibility

[jade jolt]

7 total to be precise for mythic

[bright tapir]

Could they have boosted up those draw percentages in the first month? I suppose so. I wouldnt even put it past them. I just remember so many people struggling with rng those first few weeks too

[rotund flume]

Buddy I’m talking about the knockout rewards with th character emblem it is garunteed

[surreal berry]

#📅│event-news message

[bright tapir]

It took my wife hitting pity twice just for two copies of Gwynn

[jade jolt]

Having a wife playing and not complaining
LIFE GOALS💍

[surreal berry]

only reason peeps would continue to Draw on Maru is purely for better chances for Attal

[rotund flume]

My rng is doo doo too which is why I’m displeased with only getting 1 character every 10 pulls now

But I also have 76 LE pulls I’m hanging on to because I’m getting a t6 LE character god dammit

[surreal berry]

MAX 60 for Mythic character (if "RNG Gohds" "HATE" you)... You will need hundreds of Draws.

[rotund flume]

It’s a marathon not a race

[glass needle]

How many pulls until guaranteed? The screenshots I sent are literally the percentage rates of each pull

[tidal depot]

What goes good with pizza besides spaghetti?

[bright tapir]

My rng sucks recently too. Which is fine I guess. Im not really expecting to get any future characters at this point. My lumia is all gone and im not spending more money

[rotund flume]

I think I’m about 1 more year I’ll be able to pull a t6 LE character

[jade jolt]

A beer and cut off spaghetti from the pizza lol wtf

[tidal depot]

I got beer and I was thinking another pizza

Or more topings

[rotund flume]

Ok go to the draw screen. You see those 10 little boxes of what you can pull? One of them is a character pull. That’s what I’m talking about. There used to be more character pulls

[surreal berry]

https://tenor.com/view/cameraman-running-competition-fast-working-out-gif-20665985

[jade jolt]

Oh well, in NA you use to make a pizza that cannot be called pizza in Italy🤣

[glass needle]

Its different characters and amount of characters ever event

[twilit owl]

When?

[dusky obsidian]

Is Jolder good?

[jade jolt]

What?

[dusky obsidian]

I just got her

[tidal depot]

Our pizza is actually better than the original Italian pizza

[flint aurora]

Yeah

[glass needle]

Literally just RNG. Nothing rigged or anything

[dusky obsidian]

Uuuu okay okay

[tidal depot]

That's one thing Americans did better also egg rolls were invented in new York

[jade jolt]

It's actually heavier to digest tbh

[tidal depot]

That's why

[simple plank]

I love grease

[rotund flume]

First month or so, I’m sure they give more character draws to newcomers to get them interested. Just disappointed they did it in this one.

[tidal depot]

Grease love you

[surreal berry]

I know I completely played Zenless zone zero from first week UPTO. Today...
(more than 1 year)
but I'm unsure about Destiny Rising for 1 full Year?...

[twilit owl]

I played since day 1 and it's the same mechanics

[tidal depot]

What is zenless zone zero about

[flint aurora]

Women

[tidal depot]

Boooooooo

[lyric skiff]

Isnt bad tried a strike 130-160 doesnt feel anywhere close to tht tho gates prolly a bit worse but playable i think

[tidal depot]

How about farlight 85?

[lean helm]

I just cant wait for 1 unified server

[tidal depot]

Under one god 🙏

[rotund flume]

Y’all gunna make me start a new account just to prove a point.

[tidal depot]

And justice for all

[glass needle]

Just complaining at this point in my opinion. “Everything is rigged” when it comes to gotcha games

[twilit owl]

Do you mean currency or the actual boxes showing possible out comes? Any of the 10 pulls can trigger the banner hero

[tidal depot]

Are they called gotcha because they get us?

[lyric skiff]

If it aint lubing u up for a rear ending it isnt a gatcha game 🤣

[lean helm]

The trick with gatcha games is understanding you dont need everything ao prioritize what you actually want. Will be a new hero once the timer runs on this one

[glass needle]

It’s literally all about luck

[rotund flume]

Possible outcomes. There used to be more of those. I’m not talking specifically about the banner character Maru just character pulls in general

[twilit owl]

The hero box is a guaranteed 4*

[lyric skiff]

Or bank balance eheheh

👎🏻

[rotund flume]

Correct

[twilit owl]

It's exactly the same

[rotund flume]

Nah your trippin

[glass needle]

Depends. I bought $50 worth of silver for Gwynn and only able to pull her twice and then I got Estella once with the remaining

[indigo solar]

There's always at least 1 per 10. Sometimes there are more, but it's rare. Nothing has changed, you just haven't seen two in a bit

[twilit owl]

It's probably against server rules but I'd bet a grand on it 🤣

[lyric skiff]

I got all but maru so far f2p all t0 tho aint spent a penny need 24 pulls for maru so ill get her too

[rotund flume]

How you pull up draw history?

[lean helm]

Which is fine but for high level content t0 will always be weak link

[lyric skiff]

Tht y i main wolf ahah 😍

[karmic chasm]

Got my mods, now I just need an alh and poly roll for Maru

[lean helm]

Wolf has been awesome for non pvp and raid style content but race events etc been kinda trash imo

[rotund flume]

Welp my draw history is literally my last 6 pulls😭

[indigo solar]

For the really high level content, talents are disabled

[indigo solar]

Use the arrows at the bottom

[lean helm]

What happens if you roll a maxed character in permenant section? What do you get?

[lean helm]

True true kinda sucks imo

[indigo solar]

40 shards for a mythic iirc, 18 for a legendary

I haven't gotten a t6 since beta tho so can't confirm

[lean helm]

Perfect thank you

[twilit owl]

I've stopped drawing them at t6 😮 didn't know it was 40

[rotund flume]

Hmm alright maybe I’m tripping…unless netease knew I would realize this and changed my draw history…

Prolly the second one

[twilit owl]

Yep and we are all NE bots covering it up

[tidal depot]

Netplease

More like Netdweebs

[twilit owl]

Netsqueeze 💸

[tidal depot]

Netcheeks

[rotund flume]

I was already on to this

[twilit owl]

No Triumph for max level fishing is sad times

[thorny frost]

It is odds just like people have been mentioning. Each slot has a 4.167 chance of being a legendary, you are guanrateed 1 in each 10 (if you don’t get the odds it will be 100% on last draw). But you also have a chance if it rolled the 4.1% chance twice. I have gotten a double unit one semi recently, but in general it isn’t common.

[rotund flume]

Read up I was talking about character boxes in the draw knockout things

[twilit owl]

Probably had it 4 times in a scary amount of draws

[rotund flume]

But I was wrong…allegedly

[willow otter]

Can this one ai keep this voice 😂😂😂

[thorny frost]

That is what I am saying, each of those boxes has a 4.1 % chance, it rolls it when you get a new set of 10. So you can get 2, maybe even 3 but it isn’t common….

[rotund flume]

Ah

[twilit owl]

"Watch until the end of the video to learn why..."

[empty kettle]

Fallen lightbearer might be possible in this timeline

[bright tapir]

Theres always only ever been one character box with the knockout rewards. Any box has a chance at the banner character or a mythic character. The odds of those pulls could have potentially changed but its always been 1 permanent character guaranteed in 10 draws and its ALWAYS Ikora /s

[willow otter]

I think it’s hilarious they haven’t changed it but for the meme he should have that TikTok ai voice 🤣

As far as I know he’s the only one I encountered that has that “ai” voice

[rotund flume]

My rng was peak for like 20 pulls tho cuz I got 3 character in 10 draws twice lol

[twilit owl]

3 hero boxes? Or 2 plus a banner trigger?

[bright tapir]

Thats some solid luck for sure

[rotund flume]

Standard banner with mythic pull

[hardy warren]

Also not what im asking. Like what does each individual character need. Im not doing endgame yet. I just wanna know what guns for like Jolder, Tan, Ning, and Wolf need what perks on the gun/artifact etc etc

[hard forge]

Can someone tell me why my one weapon has more power than the other?i.e i just pulled the first picture with both thumbs up

[thorny frost]

That is amazing XD I don’t think I have ever had a 3 legendary unit 10 pull

[twilit owl]

Mod perks

[empty kettle]

Matched perks and exotic mods gives more power

[hard forge]

Oh yea gotcha

So I need to find mods for the new one then

Dang I forgot about that lols

[rotund flume]

Nah 2 4* 1 5*

[rotund flume]

That’s never happened to anybody lol

[twilit owl]

Not seen either. Must be possible though right?

[hard forge]

Also is it necessary for me to have a Wolfpack leveled up? As ning fei

[empty kettle]

Remember, not all perks can match that exotic mods or are straight up none existence

[thorny frost]

It probably has with how many people played early on.

[hard forge]

Okay

[rotund flume]

Someone with 3 mythic pulls in 10 pulls screenshot and show the chat

So I can cuss you out

[bright tapir]

I got two 5* and one 4* in 20 pulls once. They even give you a different screen image for it. Ill see if i can find it

[indigo solar]

Ooh hold on lemme find some alpha ss, it happened like 5 times

[twilit owl]

Not mine obviously but possible

[bright tapir]

I think it was this one. I had just hit pity and got another Gwynn within the next 10 pulls

[empty kettle]

Insane luck to pull 3 mythics

[rotund flume]

Oh actually you know what I did get 3 helhests trying to pull Rossi in 30 pulls.

[bright tapir]

Wow is this yours? The odds off that at 1% is like a lightning strike

[rotund flume]

I didn’t even want her

[supple nymph]

WTF

[empty kettle]

Need some of that Travelers blessings to be able to get 4 mythics from a 10 pull

[thorny frost]

I don’t even want to try figuring out the odds on that (not that I could as I don’t know the odds of the first Gwynn).

[bright tapir]

ChatGPT says the odds are a 1 in 8,770 chance to get three 5* in 10 pulls

So with the millions of draws per day early on it's definitely happened

[boreal river]

Is it possible to T6 in 10 pulls then 🤔

[bright tapir]

How many pulls are needed to t6? 10?

[thorny frost]

7

[boreal river]

7 for a mythic

[indigo solar]

No, someone else's from the alpha. If the first is at the 60 guarantee it's a 0.34% chance of happening, which isn't actually terrible

[bright tapir]

1 in 860 billion to t6 in 10 pulls lol. Probably not happened before

[boreal river]

RIP the dream better chances of winning the lottery I think

[indigo solar]

0.000000000117% chance

[bright tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-and-dumber-lloyd-theres-a-chance-jim-carrey-gif-11098164

[glass needle]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-piccolo-dragon-ball-funny-as-hell-skill-issue-gif-21337105

[frigid kraken]

Still more chance of people getting a j*b

[indigo solar]

Or a much more reasonable 0.00000000819% chance if you're already at the 60 pity

That's a 1/12,216,133,097 chance

[bright tapir]

Statistics is fun. Reminds me of the "Birthday Paradox" which can be a fun party trick. In a group of just 23 people there is a 50% chance that two people share the same birthday. Seems crazy but its true

[thorny frost]

Plenty reasonable lol

[bright tapir]

Also why pre-polling only typically needs a sample size of less than 1500 people to accurately predict results (assuming the sample is random and not biased)

[thorny frost]

I remember my stats teacher doing this in their classes.

[surreal berry]

Don't we all...
Wanting to win the lottery.

[thorny frost]

Problem is not biased and random. A lot of tests always have some bias, even just doing it online is biased.

[bright tapir]

Yep. Self reported data is also notoriously terrible. People lie all the time

[thorny frost]

I love statistics, but I now have to question any “study” I see lol.

[bright tapir]

100% as you should. Not to mention by the time things make it to a news headline they are usually click-baiting something very different than what the original study showed

[frigid kraken]

Eggs

[jade jolt]

Nice try😂😂

[indigo solar]

That was real

[jade jolt]

And where's the 10th item

[indigo solar]

It's visible after tapping again, they don't all fit on one screen

[jade jolt]

Well Alpha was huge as drop rate so😂

[indigo solar]

Alpha had same drop rates, just more draws given

[jade jolt]

Unlucky didn't happened on actual so🥲

[past dock]

Does anyone actually care about Maru or are we all saving for Jaren?

[gritty rune]

I like Maru, she’s fun to play

[past dock]

She just seems like a fancier Ikora

[prime lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[empty kettle]

I will only pull if he has a 4*

[strange wolf]

@wheat ferry in your maru build post (#1437842558221811875 message) - does rampaging pact actually work? does her barrier count as a summon? I did a little bit of testing in the range and it kind of seems like yes, but wondered if you had done anything more conclusive

[wheat ferry]

It does yeah. You just toggle the shield on and off for an easy 33% general damage buff

[odd vale]

so this event only gives bright dust and cosmetic engrams?

[strange wolf]

that's really bizarre and cool, but at that point why not use vigilant planetismal? you can proc it the same way and it gives 50% to your cannon shot. lasts for both shots too

[odd vale]

is the pumpkin head permanent at least?

[wheat ferry]

I like general damage buffs so everything hits hard. Weapons, signature and super

[prime lichen]

it doesnt say a day duration on it like the chat frames / some titles, so id assume so

[vocal hawk]

Yup

[fluid dome]

just came back after 2 month break is the evolutions end emblem only for like top fireteams or smth

[prime lichen]

think you had to stay in top 100 for the animated emblem of that if thats the one you talking about, the static one was if you cleared during the leaderboard phase of the event

[strange wolf]

fair enough. I just posted a build that has a 40% general damage bonus but also comes with 70% (peak) DR. not as good damage but kinda interesting

[bright tapir]

Maru is a lot of fun. Shes like Jolder and Ikora in one. Drawing for her was a no brainer for me as an Ikora main. She got a ton of hand me downs for free

[blissful lintel]

Ikora handmedowns were strong

[bright tapir]

For sure. However If you've done very little investing in Ikora and not a big fan of that play style I would probably wait

[blissful lintel]

I'm still content with my 1/2 slot from Ikora, I did get a new 3/4 slot but continuing to boost my old 3/4 for leaderboard reasons.

That, with my drill almost being done, I'm in a really good spot right now. the new 1/2 slot items do seem pretty good though..

[devout horizon]

[bright tapir]

Is this for the new exotic? Did you max out battle pass already?

[blissful lintel]

I should probably at least farm out a siphoning blazar.. and yeah.

[oak temple]

😭 my darling can't get faster than 10 minutes in expanse, how much power level needed for her to reach below 7'30 ?

[bright tapir]

Maybe you can help me out. I have the drill leveled up to catalyst band 1 (second slot) and only one exotic enhancement. The gun at this point doesn't hold up at all compared to my maxed out Present Fleet. How does it compare nearly fully maxed out? I can't decide if i want to invest anymore in it

[stark forge]

74k

[upper gorge]

Rossi can barely clear this expanse unfortunately lol hopefully there is a difference with maha I’ll try it soon

[devout horizon]

Been hard locked with trinity ghoul on Rossi after seeing your vid tbh

[strange wolf]

@soft bobcat I think someone already responded to you, but to elaborate on #1437842558221811875 message (since the slow mode in that channel is very high) - my understanding is the armored stacks can refresh, but the original DR buff has to leave and come back. so with the stand-still artifact, the DR activates when you stop moving, grants Armored stacks. the DR leaves when you start moving, then again activates when you stop, granting more Armored stacks.

Compare this to refreshing Undaunted Blazar. You get +15 armor stacks when you get the first tick of overshield, but gaining more overshield to refresh the buff doesn't grant more stacks. The entire Undaunted Blazar effect has to fall off before you can gain more armored stacks by re-activating Undaunted Blazar

[devout horizon]

Won’t take it off lmao

[oak temple]

very funny

[upper gorge]

🥲 Damn I’m sorry I just can’t put it don’t for most activities hahahah also thanks for even watching

[bright tapir]

On Ikora would you use maxed out drill or maxed out two-tailed?

[devout horizon]

No I meant I can’t stop using it

[upper gorge]

It’s too fun to use

[strange wolf]

@thorny frost since you also replied - I did test this already with undaunted blazar, although it was kind of a pain. I'm pretty sure your analysis in the channel was correct

[true mauve]

TTF

[devout horizon]

It’s fun. I love trinity ghoul on Rossi

[strange wolf]

it's worth nothing that each rocket on two-tailed triggers her weapon mastery separately, but each hit on the drill doesn't

[bright tapir]

Oh man thats good to know

[strange wolf]

if each hit on the drill triggered weapon mastery, that would probably be better than TTF, or at least give it a run for its money. but alas

[bright tapir]

Yea plus the utility of TTF being all elements

[true mauve]

Its a primary, no primary should outdps your power weapon. Exo power weapon is always where it at unless alot of trash mob clear and even then remember you still need boss burst

[stark forge]

not wrong tho

[blissful lintel]

10 shots of the drill without the very last boost is getting my total damage to 647,345
10 shots with matching mods Frat+Poly is getting 487,369.
Overall, you're gonna be doing a lot more primary dps with Drill but as others have said, with TTF on Ikora, One shot uses up 6 neutron stars for bigger instant burst damage as well as having the shield coverage. On Ikora I would probably keep PF+TTF but Maru should definately be using the drill.

[true mauve]

Void Drill only BiS for maru because the mythic void GL is good. I still use Saliksnyni smart GL on her though

[unkempt lance]

I didn’t have any issues, and yes, switch to Mahamayuri

[strange wolf]

do you have cat band 01 unlocked? I just tried using smart bomb in practice range and the DPS was booty compared to the void GL

[bright tapir]

Thank you for the analysis and being the guinea pig maxing out the drill. Youre the first person ive talked to thats done it. Sounds promising for sure and something somewhat viable even for Ikora as a secondary gun to have fun with. Definitely going to level it up now, at least for Maru. Im not a huge fan of the exotic heavy grenade launcher

[true mauve]

When they fixing the crossbow bug on his weapon mastery 4? Mahama will go brrrrrrrrrr

[blissful lintel]

and yeah, those numbers are without the last catalysis boost giving the 12% hit bonus and blast bonus.

[thorny frost]

Thank you, and yea I could see how that could be a pain to test. The losing of the buff and regaining it is the big part for gaining the armor buff.

[true mauve]

I pvp so I dont get to use catas, i like that the base dmg is higher and it auto detonates even if I miss. PF also has a speed boost which is nice for movement in shifty

[strange wolf]

yeah. it wouldn't be so bad if the timer was visible somewhere. for a build like the one I posted, knowing exactly how much DR you have is crucial at all times

[strange wolf]

ah ok

[true mauve]

Besides I played Ikora enough that the Drill straight shot is weird to me, I like the arc

[bright tapir]

Same. I don't know why the arc somehow feels more powerful. Straight shot feels more like Jotunn

[thorny frost]

All buffs should be visiable. The speed buff from the other blazer artifact we tried to see if it activated with self inflicted aoe damage… and I was not able to tell as the speed increase isn’t high enough to be blatantly obvious.

[true mauve]

I like pvp over pve because no pressure in min/max my builds, only pressure on skill

[true mauve]

Its not more powerful its just more intuitive, it can be used to hit targets you cant with a straight shot

[bright tapir]

Yea thats a good point

[thorny frost]

O I just realized how this sounded, I was agreeing it should be visible not stating it was. The speed buff not being visible is also annoying.

[true mauve]

Drill having a dot reticle throws me off so bad

[bright tapir]

You can arc over barriers and things. I almost wish you could turn that on and off

[true mauve]

Its to help with "direct hit" dmg because people cant aim?

[strange wolf]

I think there are so many weird little buffs from artifacts in this game that making them all visible would be too much, esp on mobile. but some option for "detailed visiblility" at least in training ground (if not everywhere) would be good. or if at least the buffs on a timer could be shown, or if there was an option for individual buffs

[bright tapir]

Right now mine hits like a wet noodle. Its terrible. Im going to level it up next though. Not much else to do

[true mauve]

It gives 3 lines, short medium and long range. Pick one appropriate to target distance

Bottom line lets you shoot cross map dang near

[thorny frost]

I like the idea of it being toggleable, because, yea I could see what you mean by to much for mobile. Had another game that showed all the buffs and it got big. But the more info we have (for those who want it) helps a lot with optimizing.

[indigo solar]

It is more powerful, it comes with like 15% more damage

Oh wait arc

[strange wolf]

hopefully one day

[indigo solar]

Yeah the arc is less powerful lmao

[strange wolf]

I think they're talking about pvp

[bright tapir]

I thought arc as in geometry, not arc the element type. Maybe im confused

[indigo solar]

Yes, arc as in geometry

Dvergar does less damage when it has bullet drop

Because the catalyst that makes it linear also increases damage by 15%

[latent hawk]

Easy

[astral citrus]

Did I beat the game?👨‍🍼

[true mauve]

Yeah its crap 🤣 i like my exo GL

[oak temple]

yes but at what cost 💀

[astral citrus]

idk im f2p

[oak temple]

Yes, you are.

[indigo solar]

I'm only 92 f2p bc I skipped Gwynn :(

[empty turtle]

What are the collectible and how do I find them??

[oak temple]

this game gives enough for you to pull everyone but not enough to build everyone

[thorny frost]

In each of the fire place areas for the non haven zones, there are stands that give hints to items you can find on the map. You need to be certain reputation levels to unlock each one

[empty turtle]

I am Rep 14 and 15 is that enough??

[latent hawk]

no, iirc one of them requires lv19

[thorny frost]

I believe some of them start around Rep 10 tho. So you can get started on them.

[sweet forge]

use ikora for the plus 5 % buff and use all spread wishes

[empty turtle]

What does the icon look like??

[blissful lintel]

Go to this wall in the bonfire, there will be little sparkling silver square things with hints for the ones you can do

[thorny frost]

This is the area in the Red Sea rift. They don’t have an icon on the map. Either bonfire stand or looking for them on the map.

[patent widget]

Ss

[thorny frost]

Beat me by just a bit XD

[blissful lintel]

funny that we both had the same idea lol

[empty turtle]

Thanks 🙏

[latent hawk]

@empty turtle or you can be lazy like me and watch the youtube video to find them all

[empty turtle]

Forgive me for being retard how do I find this wall 😅??

[blissful lintel]

Bonfire node

[thorny frost]

All is good btw, don’t mind helping.

[blissful lintel]

I think I'm a little bit lost. Must have taken a wrong turn somewhere.

Just a tiny bit lost..

[empty turtle]

This??

[blissful lintel]

Those are the ones in JSM

[empty turtle]

Ok thanks for the help

[gritty rune]

Dw, Jaren will probably powercreep the heck out of her

[blissful lintel]

JSM and RSR have their own sets of collectables.

[past flame]

Just watch the goat @misty fiber on YouTube he did a video to help u find them

[supple nymph]

Jaren’s gonna be solar, that’s comparing apples to oranges

[vocal hawk]

Jaren's also a 4*

[upper gorge]

I’m oh hahaha 💙

[upper gorge]

Heck yea me too!!

[thorn thunder]

Guys . Is the special agent no dying mission bugged?

[strange wolf]

I think I saw someone mention that they don't think it works on the new maps

[thorn thunder]

My worked on overflow but didn't work on hack . Plus the name of modifier were also replaced . Idk how it works anymore

[sacred kite]

What is the optimal team comp for calamity ops?

[heavy terrace]

do they even hear us out for feed back? when you do Server https://discord.com/channels/1267806213656023071/1268046176054153237

[junior heron]

I think it’s been mentioned a few times that they actually do read them, but I could be wrong/thinking about something else

[vocal hawk]

I know for a fact that they read the suggestion box and the discord itself.

[gritty rune]

Does it matter? People are currently speedrunning CO with Wolf

[blissful lintel]

Right now it's double helhest and either wolf or maru

[heavy terrace]

Oh okay np problem just to confirm before doing them bec i don't want to use my time if useless you kwon

[vocal hawk]

this survey in particular is for discord feedback, so it's a little less connected to the game itself

[devout horizon]

NetEase after opening main chat for 0.2 seconds

[gritty rune]

Depends on how hardcore you are

Maru/helhest/ning is what most people use but I’m seeing people use wolf over Maru to speedrun in NA

[devout horizon]

“Welcome to the salty spittoon” type stuff

[vocal hawk]

Wolf has team-wide speed buffs

[gritty rune]

“What’s your power level”

[vocal hawk]

I'm not surprised they're showing up in CO

[strange wolf]

do they stack with helhest's?

[heavy terrace]

😅 oh so is goin to take a while before a reach it to the actual developer team... sound kind of lazy to me

[gritty rune]

And Maru is just really slow

[vocal hawk]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[blissful lintel]

#1 NA zone 1 master 1 has a wolf in it with a 445k run with two helhests

[vocal hawk]

Maru's a lot of fun and an absolute room clearer but as long as people are prioritizing speed over everything else she's not going to hold a place in the meta

[gritty rune]

Basically you need someone to break spreads and wolf can break spreads, take down void shields and speed buff

[strange wolf]

445 is crazy. can you see how fast the run was in total?

[blissful lintel]

2:58

[strange wolf]

bonkers. so boss kill at 3x

[gritty rune]

Yeah as long as the endgame is speed running any character that doesn’t go fast is not gonna be meta

[sacred kite]

Good to know

[blissful lintel]

yep with a ton of adds too

[strange wolf]

wild. can you see the artifacts on the wolf?

[gritty rune]

Problem is. I don’t see it being sustainable

[blissful lintel]

Running with Ikora, Jolder lightlinked with Sweet Business and alh/poly Tsurinobuse

[gritty rune]

Kits are gonna be a mess if they try to make meta characters all the time and people are just gonna get bored since it’s very repetitive

[vocal hawk]

we really need those new modes from S3

[gritty rune]

And pinnacle rework

[brittle osprey]

U guys think i should be able to run destiny rising with this setup

[strange wolf]

is the user who ran the wolf named "fish"?

[gritty rune]

Playerbase already feels dwindling in EMEA tbh cos even with the server merge, queues are taking longer and longer