Astronomica

[rapid flax]

smallest number size yet

I can't see it lol

what

[rapid flax]

Retrigger Machine OP

[true jewel]

Wheres the download for this

nvm I found it

[swift hedge]

When will my other blind be added for more finity jokers wah wah /hj

[loud spire]

soon

[untold moat]

So

I dunno if it's my mods or something

This is the message I'm getting

And this is what my screen looks like prior to getting that error message

And I have no idea what card could be causing this

This happened because I blacked out part way through, then shut my pc down and went to bed

And when I pulled the game up it looked like this

I'm gonna do another run and see if it's scaelae kekw'ing values way too hard

[untold moat]

Update: No scalae and it's still happening

My score doesn't reset to 0 after I clear the blind

[loud spire]

god there has to be an easier way to do value manip than the absolute dumster fire that is misprintize.lua

im trying to write an easier api for value manip

but this is just atrocious

[tribal cave]

yeah

one time i tried to do additive value manip for glitch’s backlog and just went

https://tenor.com/view/balatro-nope-wheel-northernlion-fortune-gif-1884086658338738891

after like an hour of futile attempts

[loud spire]

yeah

its frustrating

ive been trying to write a more streamlined value manipulation function but this is just so complicated

and the cryptid devs refuse to fix it

because nothing uses additive value manip in base cryptid

[loud spire]

@swift hedge finally getting around to your boss blinds

[loud spire]

nvm

im having trouble

ill do it later

im actually struggling so much with coding

lately

i want to try getting other people on the dev team

with like

github access and everything

im starting to feel a bit burnt out

doesnt mean the mod will stop

just that itll take a lot longer for things to happen probably

[loud spire]

new joker soon

🃏

[loud spire]

planned values that can be affected by this joker
this joker's own modifier
hands
discards
money
hand size
reroll cost
shop slots
blind scaling
antes
joker slots
consumable slots
+mult
xmult
emult
^chips
xchips
^chips
+score
xscore
^score
+ascension power
each poker hand's level, ascension power, chips, or mult
jokers (creates 4 random jokers if rolled, overflows)
consumables (creates 4 random consumables if rolled, overflows)
playing cards (creates 4 random playing cards if rolled)
tags (creates 4 random tags if rolled)
vouchers (you get the idea)

Did I miss anything?

[tribal cave]

m (translates to: no i don’t think so)

[loud spire]

this code is gonna get so messy lmao

also this might be a bit strong for epic

I should add more negative effects (like antes or blind scaling)

any ideas

[spring galleon]

to itself

[loud spire]

?

[spring galleon]

nvm i thought it was a temporary boost

[loud spire]

everything is permanent

[spring galleon]

What about used joker slots?

[loud spire]

wdym

[hard egret]

i actually had a similar idea of +value jokers

and also some other operators like - and X0.y

[violet salmon]

Nidavellir resprite attempt, this still is not as good as I want it to be, but at least it much better than whatever I did in my previous iteration for Nidavellir

[loud spire]

+values is impossible because cryptid devs refuse to fix misprintize

[loud spire]

yoo its peak

i love it

[hard egret]

AWESOME

you are carrying the art on so many mods i love to see it

[spring galleon]

whats misprontize

[loud spire]

the function cryptid uses for misprint edition/deck and oil lamp

it works with multiplicative value manip (like oil lamp's x1.2) but not with additive value manip

[spring galleon]

that is so bizarre

[loud spire]

the misprintize function is a complete dumpster fire too

it's way too complicated to utilize

[spring galleon]

why wont they fix it tho

[loud spire]

because it works well enough for cryptid's usecase

[spring galleon]

Ahh i see

[loud spire]

but since cryptid doesn't have additive value manip they don't care enough to actually fix it

even though it'd be extremely useful for cryptid addons

I have multiple joker ideas that utilize additive value manip that i have to keep on hold

[spring galleon]

Yeah it would, especially because of how slow the screening is, one could expect they'd at least make it easier to make addons for

And making a fix for it in your own mod doesn't really help, does it?

[loud spire]

If I was good enough at coding i could easily fix it myself

But i can't

I've been trying to make my own api for value manipulation

but it's so convoluted that reverse engineering it is impossible

literal spaghetti code

[loud spire]

might change anomaly tbh

it's a bit unclear in its effect

you wouldn't know how to use it unless you were directly told how

[swift hedge]

Oh

[loud spire]

they'll get in eventually dw

[swift hedge]

I wanna add one more blind

[loud spire]

if i like it I'll add it

[swift hedge]

It exponentiates the blind size by 1.2
This is a classic blind of mine

Maybe the 3rd one I ever made

[loud spire]

ah

[swift hedge]

I even have the spritesheet

Coincidentally

[loud spire]

I'll probably do more with exponent blind sizes later

[swift hedge]

Here are the blind sprites for no good reason (cranberry cup doesn't have sheet yet)

[loud spire]

i already have them

[cinder path]

@loud spire where download

[loud spire]

pins

[cinder path]

zhx

also can i tell you a little issue with the name

[loud spire]

i know already

[tribal cave]

-# what's the issue

[cinder path]

that the name sounds like it uses planet cards too much and i hate planet cards so i click away?

you knew that?

[loud spire]

ah i see

yeah its not planet focused dw

[deep sonnet]

hey

i know this isnt #other-mods-dev but this adds new rarities

Why Crash Eek

[loud spire]

huh

[deep sonnet]

nvm

[loud spire]

😭

[deep sonnet]

uh i was trying to add a new rarity but i kept getting

fuckin

i forgot

[loud spire]

a

[deep sonnet]

like "inject joker into nil"

or some shit

ts so untuff 🙏

yeah i have no idea how to code rarities

like i can code them but itll always crash

[loud spire]

is that why you're so apprehensive to add new rarities to cryptposting

[deep sonnet]

no im doing it for another mod

[loud spire]

ohh

[deep sonnet]

so like

im cooked 😔

[loud spire]

yeah idk it just works for me

[deep sonnet]

-[score] blind requirement

fr

wait is that actually balanced

[loud spire]

wdym

[deep sonnet]

wait so if you have 300, and you have like 120 score lets say it'd go to 180

thats still like epic

[loud spire]

mhm

[deep sonnet]

uh

score version of every vanilla joker

gros scorechel +1500 score

[loud spire]

LOL

[deep sonnet]

ice score
+1000 score
-50 score every hand

[loud spire]

i should add a 3rd tier to cavendish

[deep sonnet]

(i sure havent seen that one before)

[loud spire]

lmao

[deep sonnet]

ultimate gros michel giga op
^2 mult
1 in ee308 chance to be eaten at end of round

[loud spire]

lmao

i forgot potassium existed

[tribal cave]

there's like 10 new rarities in cryptposting 😭

[swift hedge]

The potassium
^6 mult
1 in 1e308 chance of shitting itself

[tribal cave]

what the fuck would a banana shitting itself do

[loud spire]

🃏

[forest fog]

🃏

[true jewel]

🃏

[deep sonnet]

🃏

[swift hedge]

Destroyed in a slightly funnier way

[sick scaffold]

tags (creates 4 random tags if rolled)

[loud spire]

ohh true

[loud spire]

just graduated chat

[tribal cave]

thisispeam

thisispeam2

two in one

er

one in two

chance for played cards with heart suit to give x1.5 mult when scored

anyway seriously though congrats

[loud spire]

thank you

[swift hedge]

congrats

i forgot the !

[sick scaffold]

!

i forgot the congrats

[spring galleon]

@loud spire congeats vro

Get a career ✨ ✨

[loud spire]

ty chat

[loud spire]

this joker's code is so fucking ugly

[loud spire]

playing a few games with the monstrosity

it's so fun yet so infuriating

landing on "antes" is almost always an instant loss LOL

[shut ocean]

peam

🃏

[swift hedge]

🃏

[ornate lava]

is 🃏 on the newest commit

[loud spire]

not yet

will be very soon

[swift hedge]

Wait a minute

Did I not add iris candle to the doc

Actually I'm remaking

[loud spire]

don't worry about it

it's on there

and it's wip in the code too

i haven't finished it yet because of some minor issues

[swift hedge]

Tangerine candle now
The reason is because I wanted it to be much like violet vessel and the wall
Will make the spritesheet now

[loud spire]

ah 😭

[swift hedge]

it's accurate

[loud spire]

i kinda wanna add aurinko compat for score editions but idk how id even do that

maybe distributing the score across chips and mult somehow

or maybe just

adding score to the hand itself

that seems op though

and hard to code

[swift hedge]

hmmm

[swift hedge]

maybe maybe like half tochips and half to mult

[loud spire]

You can now track progress on Exadversum in the concepting sheet!

[swift hedge]

yay

[swift hedge]

There's a problem on mobile
I can't add attributes

In the doc

I added the expo with mobile and I wasn't able to find any attributes

[swift hedge]

Fixed the spritesheet

[loud spire]

google sheets issue

because google fucking sucks

[swift hedge]

I fixed it on my pc

Lucky that I have one

My dad promised me to get a good pc when I get to like 10th grade

[queen robin]

is the joke on the list

[loud spire]

should be

[loud spire]

@forest fog quick question, how did you make fonts? i'm trying to make a copy of the default balatro font, but with the "E" flipped

seems like itd be pretty simple, i'm just having some trouble

[deep sonnet]

those stupid fucking poly ai ads i see on my shorts doomscrolling (common)
played cards with heart suit give +690 score when scored

[loud spire]

also i cannot believe NOBODY told me wistful joker was one pixel to the left than it should be

[deep sonnet]

should this be in astroposting

[loud spire]

perhaos

[forest fog]

you need to make whatever characters you do then convert them to a .svg, then you can use a tool like inkscape to make a font out of it, they have presets for it

there are also some websites that'll do a lot of that for you but they're not amazing

[loud spire]

😭

ok ill probably put that off then

[forest fog]

does the default Balatro font not support a flipped E character by default?

[loud spire]

i dont believe so but ill double check

[forest fog]

pretty sure there's a unicode one and it could just replace that with a flipped E

if not I can try and put it together

[loud spire]

im checking rn

yeah, does not support

sad

dw about it though if youre busy

its not an urgently required thing lmao

[forest fog]

bwomp

isn't too hard with this tool I found, just copied the normal E and flipped it

do you want the lowercase flipped e too?

[loud spire]

nah just the uppercase one is fine, thank you!

[forest fog]

alrighty!

everything else should still be the same (if I did it right)

[loud spire]

tyyy!

anyways

im not so sure about this effect

it seems a bit strong for epic or even legendary

[open violet]

I'm pretty sure you need prefix

😭

[loud spire]

dw about formatting btw

im just getting the effect down

[loud spire]

wdym

[open violet]

for font

[loud spire]

it works just fine for my empyreans

OH

i see what you mean

lmao

[loud spire]

also yeah im gonna do a different effect

its so hard not to make it something too op...

@open violet ok what parameters do i need to make this match vanilla

for my empyreans i just had to brute force trial and error it

but like

this is completely different

or can i just

hm

[forest fog]

o for the modified one you still need to use the Ǝ symbol, the rest of the font is unchanged

[loud spire]

no params seems to still not be exact

[loud spire]

yeah i figured that out

[forest fog]

ah alrighty

[loud spire]

actually

i think i can fix this

[loud spire]

the weird formatting i mean

there we go

[forest fog]

woo

what did you do to fix it?

[forest fog]

ah alrighty

nice!

[loud spire]

anyways some help brainstorming this effect would be quite nice

im thinking maybe halving ante gain

[forest fog]

something that has like sporatic/contrasting effects could be kinda fitting, dunno a better wowrd to describe it

[loud spire]

so antes only increase every other boss blind

[loud spire]

ohh perhaps

[forest fog]

mebbe like a negative effect one hand then a positive modifier the next

I dunno

m not good at game mechanic stuff :p

[ornate lava]

maybe an ability that cycles every ante?

[loud spire]

touched up 🃏's sprite a little

Also, i wonder if i could actually put the emoji itself as the name of the joker somehow?

perhaps some ui shenanigans to put an image as the title

[shut ocean]

🃏

[loud spire]

working on a server

might be a few days though

because i fucking hate setting up servers

like

a lot

[tribal cave]

-# ✋ i could help...

[loud spire]

would be nice ngl

want an invite

[tribal cave]

i don't particularly have a lot of time right now but i could try setting some stuff up

[loud spire]

thats fine lmao

[tribal cave]

i'll take the invite

[loud spire]

sent

[loud spire]

https://discord.gg/uzfTqaHqxG

that was fast

anyways we got a server now

mods could you pin this please

[loud spire]

tyty

[loud spire]

New joker soon chat

Unfortunately, the None joker has become sentient, so i have to figure that out before i can release these

[loud spire]

Figured it out, it's released now

[waxen aurora]

None joker with no effect

[waxen aurora]

Sorry that just came into my mind when I read that the none joker became sentient

[terse temple]

am i cooking

[loud spire]

yes

[loud spire]

finally getting around to adding animations for anomaly and exadversum

or not

cvzaaaaaaahfnsakjldgfsakjhvsjadkghkjsdlgskhlsfjhsaf

i HATE card animations

[shut ocean]

story in 2 parts

[loud spire]

hey chat

working on something that may or may not be possible

(i will only find out by coding it and seeing if it works)

[crisp fox]

i tried this same idea before
it was a pain but technically worked

but there is a reason why it is listed in my mod config under "risky stuff"

[loud spire]

you did???

[crisp fox]

yeah

[loud spire]

like

[crisp fox]

one sec

[loud spire]

the same idea???

[crisp fox]

nearly identical, just different trigger condition

[loud spire]

ah 😭

i think its different enough tbh

[crisp fox]

it did successfully lower rarities but it also results in a TON of random base joker spawns because hooking get_current_pool is about the same level of torture as being thrown in a volcano

[loud spire]

i do it without hooking (though im not entirely sure if my method works just yet)

[crisp fox]

is it just by changing the rarity in g.p_centers

or something else

[loud spire]

this is my absolute monstrosity

[crisp fox]

oh yeah that should probably work

if it does work
would you mind if i generally imitate this idea on how to do it since my implementation is a bit "what the fuck?"

[loud spire]

all my code is free real estate

everyone is allowed to copy whatever they want as long as the creative aspect remains distinct

[crisp fox]

🙏

[loud spire]

ok it doesnt fully work yet though just so you know

it just turned an exotic into a common

somehow

[crisp fox]

so it does work and its just running far too many times

all i was going to take was changing the rarity pools alongside the p_center version

[loud spire]

mhm

i think it's somehow running recursively?

[crisp fox]

that sounds wrong

[loud spire]

no its literally just running recursively lmao

[crisp fox]

i mean wrong in the "is this working" way
i fully believe there's some aspect of jank that is making it run recursively

[loud spire]

i have an idea

why is it STILL RUNNING RECURSIVELY 😭

[crisp fox]

maybe joker stencil is actually common what do you know

[loud spire]

OH

stencil is uncommon

[crisp fox]

😭

[loud spire]

ok bad news

it does NOT reset if you start a new run

[crisp fox]

ohh right thats another reason why i disabled that by default

[loud spire]

surely i cant just... ignore it... right?

[crisp fox]

its a feature trust me

i might implement something that resets the rarity of all jokers accordingly when a run is started but honestly i might ignore it too

[loud spire]

yeah

the problem is

how would i do that without hardcoding EVERY JOKER's default rarity

[crisp fox]

oh i was planning on doing it the easy way

when a run starts, check if a joker's p_center contains old_rarity (for all jokers)
if it doesnt, its pure, and set old_rarity to current rarity

[loud spire]

im also pretty sure it doesnt persist if you restart the game

[crisp fox]

yea if you restart game it resets to normal rarities

i got it working
it was incredibly easy

[loud spire]

always funny when a joker is broken in both defenitions

[crisp fox]

now the modified rarities dont persist between runs

i love value manip

[loud spire]

oh! could you send this code?

[crisp fox]

local fakestart = Game.start_run
function Game:start_run(args)
    fakestart(self, args)

    for i,center in pairs(G.P_CENTERS) do
        if center.oldrarity then
            center.rarity = center.oldrarity
        end
    end
end

set oldrarity yourself, since we have vastly different variables in the code for changing the rarity

[loud spire]

wdym

[crisp fox]

i dont have code that applies to you for setting oldrarity
and its also only a single if statement so you can do that anyway

[loud spire]

oh, is that the first screenshot?

[crisp fox]

ye

first screenshot is just what sets oldrarity, 2nd one resets it upon new run

[loud spire]

ah

[crisp fox]

oh wait oops im stupid

that doesnt reset the pools i dont think

[loud spire]

ah 😭

pools might be harder

[crisp fox]

give me like 300 seconds

@loud spire should work now

local fakestart = Game.start_run
function Game:start_run(args)
    fakestart(self, args)

    for i,center in pairs(G.P_CENTERS) do
        if center.oldrarity then

            -- remove from the old pool
            local pool = G.P_JOKER_RARITY_POOLS[center.rarity]
            for idx = #pool, 1, -1 do
                if pool[idx] == center.key then
                    table.remove(pool, idx)
                    break
                end
            end

            -- readd to it's original pool
            G.P_JOKER_RARITY_POOLS[center.oldrarity][center.key] = center

            center.rarity = center.oldrarity
        end
    end
end

[loud spire]

is there anything else needed or will this work by itself

[crisp fox]

you still need to set oldrarity

which i would recommend doing by checking if a center has oldrarity when you're changing it, and before you change it, set oldrarity to the current rarity

other than setting oldrarity, this should work on it's own

[loud spire]

hm

[crisp fox]

note that i actually haven't tested but i am confident in my ability to copy code from myself and repurpose it

[loud spire]

actually would you mind if i copied your code you sent

[crisp fox]

oh not at all thats why i sent it

[loud spire]

i think i can just edit the table and the trigger condition and itd work

awesome thank you

letting it be mutable would be amazing too

[crisp fox]

i did that with mine and it is incredibly funny

[loud spire]

which i believe mine is NOT mutable right now

[crisp fox]

value manip it up to like 30,000 jokers and then everything becomes common and it truly lives up to its name

[loud spire]

lmao

i will credit you for the code

tysm

youve been a massive help

[crisp fox]

🙏

i mean we got the same goals in mind, might as well work together

[loud spire]

true

[loud spire]

new exotic chat

[tribal cave]

we ALL know what you wanted to show off

[loud spire]

huh

[tribal cave]

what did you do with the probabilities 😭

[loud spire]

I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING

[tribal cave]

bro hit the 1 in 6000 chance accidentally

[loud spire]

😭 😭 😭

anyways yeah

This joker essentially makes chips and mult equal based on which of the two values is higher

[tribal cave]

plasma deck 2 as a joker

[loud spire]

it's better than plasma deck

Because it's ALWAYS running

Not just after scoring

It updates during scoring every time chips or mult update

as you can see in the video

every time you gain chips or mult

the other value matches

[tribal cave]

yes

that’s why it’s plasma deck 2

it’s plasma deck

but 2 (better)

[loud spire]

sync catalyst if it was good

[shut ocean]

description is inaccurate

chips & mult are set to the higher value when increased

[hard egret]

Proposition for a description rewrite

"When Chips or Mult are increased, both are set to the higher value"

[loud spire]

much better ty

[loud spire]

genie joker is BACK

it needs art though

i tried drawing a jimbo version of the genie from aladdin, it... did NOT go well

implemented new description for Congruentia too

Jokers that currently need art now are:
Foole
Genie Joker
Congruentia

Gonna release a new update soon

[spring galleon]

I cant art but PLEASE be the genie from aladdin

also thats common???

[loud spire]

that was 100% the plan

[spring galleon]

YEAAAAA

[loud spire]

i was considering making it uncommon

[spring galleon]

That would be more reasonable, since it would make anything ^ or other very good values way funkier

[loud spire]

new release out!

[forest fog]

It should just be akinator sitting there

[grim spruce]

bro just casually hit both the gros michel AND the cavendish at the same time while testing a joker thats crazy

[little abyss]

Check His PC

[loud spire]

😭 😭 😭

i love how you can see the shock in my mouse cursor

[grim spruce]

lmao

anyways i just had a thought imagine this joker and the other joker that sets the hand's chips and mult to the scoring ones i forgot what it was called

[loud spire]

aukatigi?

[grim spruce]

that one yeah

[loud spire]

yeahh

it would be quite op

[tall ivy]

Would you mind if I took parts of this to help with gemini's mortal form?

[loud spire]

not at all!

[tall ivy]

Thanks! Additive stats are just the worse

[loud spire]

Yeahh

[loud spire]

coding turron

[crisp fox]

transformation

[loud spire]

LOL

[loud spire]

my code is NOT cooperating with me tonight

okay i am not coding turron

yet

[forest fog]

The turron must wait

[loud spire]

this is why misprintize/manipulate needs simpler implementation

this code has a mind of its fucking own istg

[hard egret]

no problem gng

[grim spruce]

i can confirm this combo is slightly cracked

(this is just at the start of ante 4 and all i had was those two, blue joker and negative joker)

[loud spire]

the main downside to aukatigi is that it gets really hurt by anything that reduces your chips or mult

so you have to strategize around it

[loud spire]

some art idea for congruentia

ehhhh

the idea is there

i cant really execute it well though

[tribal cave]

it’s cool but the small size is a little weird

[loud spire]

yeah

[tall ivy]

I mean you could always scale it up so the base card looks like a normal card

[loud spire]

perhaps

idk if i want to go through that much effort though tbh

at least not right now

[tall ivy]

I ment in the same way wee joker is scaled

Not like redraw the card at a higher resolution

[loud spire]

ohh

could work

hmm

[crisp fox]

beeegg

[tribal cave]

this looks a lot better imo

[solar bobcat]

i like this design a lot

[stuck dagger]

I wanna do some spritess

what needs sprites...

[loud spire]

well, right now genie joker could use some art

[loud spire]

this thing

[stuck dagger]

im gonna be doing foole's sprite I think

[stuck dagger]

jane foole

[stuck dagger]

genie joker

[forest fog]

That's a big genie

[loud spire]

very cool

[errant oriole]

no showman, not even on equilibrium deck, I don't think this is intended;-;

[loud spire]

anomaly is broken this will be fixed eventually

[errant oriole]

yea I saw the messages

I love the idea for the card but it's hilarious to me how much it doesn't want to work

[loud spire]

😭 😭 😭

everything that could go wrong does go wrong

[errant oriole]

murphy's law Anomaly's Anomaly.

[modern dawn]

is this on github yet?

[loud spire]

yep check pins

[loud spire]

hm, i feel like the existence of the server is kinda killing this mod's momentum

idk

[ornate lava]

in terms of like, interest for the mod or for development

[loud spire]

interest

this channel is a lot less active

i feel like people will think it isn't being worked on anymore

which isn't true

[little abyss]

bump it

[swift hedge]

The server and the channel are becoming dead

Which is abnormal

Since the existence of the server both of them died for some reason

[boreal terrace]

ersternermercer

[ornate lava]

actually would be super fun as an activity in elementary school

[loud spire]

changed it a bit

[vapid sonnet]

Quadratic?

[swift hedge]

I wonder how it works

[loud spire]

wdym

[swift hedge]

Wait I get it

It looks like (ante^2)x100

I was trying to say how the scaling works but yeah

Actually how does it work on normal balala

[terse storm]

its tetrational

its (Ax)^Bx

so ~x^^2

[loud spire]

roughly tetrational

i think the first 16 antes are arbitrarily chosen

yeah this is all the code for the scaling lmao

[crisp fox]

smiles

[loud spire]

i am so glad i didnt keep that abhorrent previous technique i was using originally

thank you

[crisp fox]

😭

the other one wasnt even linear it was just exponential instead of tetrational lol

[loud spire]

lmao

[crisp fox]

and it was soooo overcomplicated

[loud spire]

also fun fact during testing i accidentally did this

[crisp fox]

simple ante scaling

[swift hedge]

Very easy

[ornate lava]

"Nah I'd win"

[rapid flax]

centic

[solar bobcat]

accurate

[loud spire]

https://github.com/NaoRiley/Astronomica/releases/tag/v0.2.6

New deck is out!

[rapid flax]

@loud spire All Retrigger effect does nothing: (Should have retriggered each playing card twice)

[loud spire]

do you have any reason to believe this is an astronomica issue

[rapid flax]

yes: (a different run without Astronomica Mod)

[loud spire]

wtf

[rapid flax]

I have to @ user because it broke the game

[loud spire]

ill look into it tomorrow

[crisp fox]

i know the fix fox this

i had the same issue because we use the same type of hook

in your hook of calculate_individual_effect, make sure you return the original, don't just run it

[rotund rampart]

oh so it's also an astromonica issue

[loud spire]

i could have sworn i did that

[loud spire]

new solution: deleted it since im not using fchips/fmult anyways

[crisp fox]

yea alright

[loud spire]

im not on main though so idk how to put it on main

😭

oh i got it

[loud spire]

check if it works now

[rapid flax]

yeah

[mellow bolt]

holy moly!

that’s incredible!

how on earth did you do that, that’s so cool!

i’ve been following this mod for a while now and everything here is just incredible

[loud spire]

tyty

[cinder path]

OMG THANK YOU

[loud spire]

hm?

[cinder path]

oops

[cinder path]

i meant to this

[loud spire]

ah lmao

[cinder path]

nvm another mod is causing this :(

[loud spire]

endgame joker

intended to be obtained once you own every realm empyrean

[loud spire]

changed description a bit

also gonna try implementing nidavellir at some point

[grim spruce]

me when i use this with chad and watch as all the jokers i have suddenly hit the hashtags in a matter of seconds

[loud spire]

so true

[swift hedge]

Omg new green text

Xvalues now has a color

Time to add to collection

[loud spire]

changed the effect a bit since that screenshot

[loud spire]

also yeah

Been innovating a lot lately on colors

im gonna go to bed though

[mossy cairn]

how did the game manage to multiply by 0 to get a nonzero number twice

[loud spire]

very good question, i was wondering this too

i think it has something to do with balatro itself?

either that or i fucked up bad somehow

[terse storm]

talisman precision be damned

-# probably

[loud spire]

😭 😭 😭

[deep sonnet]

something to do with precision

[loud spire]

@violet salmon heya, i dont have the best memory, is there anything im forgetting that you made apart from stuff already added and nidavellir?

[violet salmon]

Nidavellir probably the last I made the actual joker art of, another realm is still in conception when I post my sketch back then, else, for ygdrassil, I havent even touch it yet

[loud spire]

my main focus rn is coming up with effects for the rest of the realm jokers so i can get that aspect of the mod finished

i was just wondering if you made any i forgot about

but yeah, thank you!

[violet salmon]

I remember resprite Ndavellir once, but thats if as far as I remember, as for the effect, I havent recommend any for it beside it'll relate to enhancement stuffs, but that still just suggestion afaik

[loud spire]

i'm currently in the middle of concepting for Nidavellir

Yggdrasil won't be implemented until the rest of the realms are finished, so that's not a priority

[violet salmon]

Ah, I probably gonna back to finish all other realm when I'm done with Ascensio's throwback X, just got my pc boot up again (with almost all my data lost) so I kinda expect I kinda can execute them more faster than me using my laptop like before

[loud spire]

ah, i see, nice! tysm tattered, youre amazing

I'm trying to lock in, knock out a bunch of stuff

[violet salmon]

I'm having much freetime for quite some time now waiting for the graduation stuffs, so all fine for now

[loud spire]

im also reworking anomaly to have a new and more interesting effect

the sprite will remain the same though

[loud spire]

ah, nice

[violet salmon]

Time for you to implement those animation (/j)

[loud spire]

yeah, been procrastinating that lmao

thats a high priority though

[violet salmon]

It actually fine, you could probably take a still frame from the sprite to make a placeholder, the animation is just an extra flair

[loud spire]

that's what ive been doing, once i figure out ascensio's animation api everything should be fine

[violet salmon]

Midgard wip

[loud spire]

yooo peak

brainstorming effects for nidavellir

thinking of smth like this

any hand containing dwarven steel would count as all poker hands is the idea basically

bit underwhelming for an empyrean so maybe it should be buffed a tad?

added that they ignore selection limit and give ^asc

[violet salmon]

I wonder if we could also go heavy utility based empyrean than pure scoring, but am not so sure what utility is the best other than deck thinning and card duplication 🤔

[loud spire]

the ultimate deckbuilding joker will probably be one of the realms yeah

the idea is to let you freely customize your deck

adding/removing cards, changing rank, suit, enhancement, edition

but id need to do a LOT of ui stuff for that so

yeah

[violet salmon]

yeah, that last point is what I think of the most lol, that's going to be a lot of ui shenanigan

[loud spire]

i could apply that effect to nidavellir but itd likely make it take a long time to be implemented

unless i somehow get ruby to help me or something

itd definetely be cooler than the current idea

[violet salmon]

though ngl, if nidavellir gonna change all card into dwarven steel/ mithril, it could probably skip all the changing rank and suit and enhancement portion of the stuff 🤔

[loud spire]

i might scrap the new enhancement part

i dont think id do it well

[violet salmon]

I see, yeah, specific enhancement for just one joker is a bit too much I guess

Ngl, I wonder what gonna be Midgard effect so its not be Mid(get it?) as an empyrean

[loud spire]

yeah i think ill do this for nidavellir

[loud spire]

me too tbh

[violet salmon]

Kinda on theme on dwarf blacksmithing stuff too, though, I hope your mind gonna still intact after that

[loud spire]

yeah 😭

gonna have to do a deep dive into ui

damn this looks awesome

[violet salmon]

good god it looks pretty, the dark part probably a bit too dark imo, but else, I love it how it looks in game

[loud spire]

to hell with balatro black

but yeah its really vibrant and pretty

[violet salmon]

Indeed, it just my conscience to not use color so dark the detail end up lost sometimes, beside the game alr have darkening filter that might mess my work more if I am careless

[loud spire]

yeah fair

i think this looks nice though

[violet salmon]

ok, checked my own work, it is far from even dark color, might keep it that way then because I rather working with so dark or bright color than sacrificing contrast because of low color gamut for readability

[violet salmon]

Midgard rendition, the symbol have three materials to reflect midgard is the middle realm of the bunch

[loud spire]

eyyy peak

this is so cool

[violet salmon]

Vanaheim wip

[forest fog]

That's awesome

[loud spire]

oh this is so pretty

[true jewel]

Being nordic (Swedish) and seeing this is so 🔥 (When Ragnarök)

[violet salmon]

Idk if I can portray ragnarok with how big the event is

[true jewel]

Fire

And more fire

With a side of fire

And fire for dessert

With a glass of fire

[violet salmon]

I'll probably just send an art that have only a single bright orange color for it lol, idk if I can put more fire to the fire when my joker art "Fafnir" alr fiery enough, oh also we're not counting the actual fiery realm yet

[true jewel]

Well Ragnarök is more like a war where no side wins iirc. And the only visualisation I saw for it had a lot of fire

[violet salmon]

ngl, I intend to probably, to have an art that break the card in half in the center of it (so it just blank in the middle), probably interesting

[true jewel]

There's someone within Norse mythology that literally is half ugly half beautiful

Their name is Hel

[loud spire]

vanaheim idea

really wanted to do something with the precognition aspect of vanaheim but i just couldn't make anything work design wise

[loud spire]

changed some stuff

[loud spire]

new way to get empyreans since anomaly is getting reworked

[violet salmon]

Vanaheim rendition, I made the right and part of the symbol as some sort of "phantasm" to signify the "reading the future" aspect which probably also gonna translate well into ante manipulation of the joker

This symbol (and probably helheim and muspelheim) is so wide dawg

[loud spire]

eyyy peak

perfect timing too i just finished vanaheims code

[violet salmon]

I might try execute bifrost next, I have some sort of idea for the look of it

[loud spire]

ooo!

sounds fun

[violet salmon]

my idea for it actually just merging the scene from marvel's thor movies and imagine dragon's album titled evolve, ngl, it alr solve my vision for it lol

[loud spire]

nice, will be quite cool

yay

[violet salmon]

Love them pretty symbols

[loud spire]

wanted to add nidavellir too but its 5am and github just annihilated a bunch of code so im a tad delirious

[violet salmon]

lol, have some rest my guy

[loud spire]

ty tattered, will do

[violet salmon]

Bifrost WIP

[violet salmon]

Bifrost rendition

[winter crane]

album cover

[violet salmon]

it is

good god I forgot I can automate some stuff with photoshop, I could've skip some step if I remember to do it at the beginning

Yeah, now this seems more like it

[violet salmon]

This is enough for today, Jotunheim rendition, the symbol is using ice crystal rendition because, well the place is cold

[loud spire]

woah

this is actually awesome

[winter crane]

peam

[upbeat wedge]

the fda won't approve this

[loud spire]

elaborate

[loud spire]

https://files.catbox.moe/5iill8.mp4

funny

new exotic

basically what happens is

normally when you finish scoring a hand, your hand's total score is added to your round score

this makes it so that your hand's total score is multiplied by your round score

[waxen aurora]

What happens when your round score is 0

Oh wait I'm dumb

It shows that in the video

[violet salmon]

Niflheim wip, these photoshop shortcut I devise really save me good time making the symbol render

[loud spire]

yoo that's awesome

[winter crane]

500 empyrean jokers

[waxen aurora]

*463

[violet salmon]

NIflheim rendition, I tried to depict giant serpentine skeleton hugging whole scene, but I think some detail lost because I kinda went overboard rendering the scene

[waxen aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-write-gunna-gif-10366234518726509577

Imagine that but a paint brush on a

[violet salmon]

would be cool because the realm is chock full of ice

Anyways, wip for muspelheim's sigil

[violet salmon]

Ok this is prolly all I got for muspelheim's sigil

[violet salmon]

I really am looking forward to make the rendition for helheim since it's the only one have asymmetrical sigil redesign from what I've done for all the realm joker sigils

[loud spire]

my god you work fast

this is peak

[loud spire]

probably the final effect edit for Vanaheim

made it a bit simpler and removed the ante scaling part because i didnt like it

[violet salmon]

Rendition for Muspelheim, this.. take longer than I want to, because I had to redraw the bg several time until I kinda feel decent abt it, (also it is my birthday today so I got pulled everywhere), anyways, now time to move to the last one

[violet salmon]

I could probably run a metal band with this sigil lol

[loud spire]

hell yeah

i love it

[loud spire]

LOL

true

[mellow bolt]

happy birthday!!

[loud spire]

yeahh, hope you have an amazing birthday !

[elfin musk]

happy birthday!

[hard egret]

this is dope

also

https://tenor.com/view/mario-birthday-melee-smash-bros-super-mario-gif-21199033

[rapid flax]

hover 4th joker in first row crash the game

[loud spire]

update smods

[tribal cave]

happy fucking birthday you are the best artist like ever

yes, the swear was 100% needed i cannot emphasize how peak you are

[loud spire]

Midgard

[violet salmon]

"certain" ?

[loud spire]

Couldn't figure out how to do stuff like soul and black hole because theyre hardcoded, but gateway and pointer and such are included

[violet salmon]

ah, so that what it mean certain, yeag kinda sucks both soul and black hole is hardcoded, gonna be hard (get it?) to modify the stuff

[loud spire]

yeahh

eventualy theyll be supported but

not immediately

[violet salmon]

negative spectral pack, I honestly forgot when last I saw modified edition booster packs

gotta love the second effect though, now I think abt it, you could probably make ascensio crossmod effect tie in there with the ascension spectral card for the second effect, but idk , ascensio does have insanity mode, but I think it feels more rewarding (?) to gain joker invincibility toward such spectrals than just a toggle?

[loud spire]

i STILL havent gotten insanity mode to work lmao

[violet salmon]

lmao, I personally never even gotten to test it because the ascension spectral card refused to appear to me that I had to do commit to joker I gain through exotic buffoon pack lmao

[grim spruce]

well when you say substantial it better mean every spectral pack i open will contain the rare spectrals and only those /hj

[loud spire]

i believe they're on average more common than any random non-rare spectral

gateway is a bit more common then something like pointer though

i gotta tweak the numbers a bit before i release it though

[grim spruce]

i see

[loud spire]

i was considering making pointer able to make exotics as part of the effect but decided against it

firstly it was too hard to code and secondly it just isnt good

[upbeat wedge]

pointer --> create gateway

[violet salmon]

Ok, this all I have for helheim's sigil, kinda don't know what material to use for the sigil, but then I thought, blood kinda in theme for realm of the dead, so this what I come up with

[loud spire]

woah

absolutely awesome

[deep sonnet]

Birthday.

[violet salmon]

Helheim rendition, the blackhole sky in the background I steal from my cryptposting's rendition of underflow then mess it a bunch because I dont feel like doing it from zero, feel like putting it on the sky because kinda fitting for realm of the dead , and with that, all 9 realm is done

[elfin musk]

will this mod be on the mod manager?

[violet salmon]

idrk, am not head of the mod, but hope it is although I never use it

[little abyss]

it being in BMM will give it a good exposure to the masses

considering not alot of people looked into #1304676008737374310

[loud spire]

ill look into putting it on bmm

how would i do that

[loud spire]

Very neat, thank you!

[little abyss]

make a PR for this

https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index

[loud spire]

I see

[loud spire]

oh yeah also, Yggdrasil IS implemented, but doesnt have every empyrean needed yet

[little abyss]

astronomica relic

[violet salmon]

Well, we're not done yet, here take the tree (rendition for Yggdrasil)

[loud spire]

yoooooo

holy peak

its so pretty

[loud spire]

https://github.com/NaoRiley/Astronomica/releases/tag/v0.2.7

new release

Jotunheim has been added, and Yggdrasil's new sprite are here

[winter crane]

weird, Jotunheim didnt scale it's Xchips

[loud spire]

hm weird

the only thing i can think of is maybe you have another mod that patches in the same place as me

so ill try working around that later

[loud spire]

https://github.com/NaoRiley/Astronomica/releases/tag/v0.2.8

forgot to mention

[loud spire]

try again

[winter crane]

yep it works now

[loud spire]

awesome

[winter crane]

your mod is

[grizzled shadow]

what if Astronomica was ascensious::: (added some mortal ideas for empyrean jokers in the Ascensio brainstorm doc)

[loud spire]

very cool ideas

good luck to anybody who tries to code recursive mortal jotunheim

lmao

[deft sedge]

weewee returns

[forest fog]

Would it be is or has?

Like if you play 2 pair with 2 2s and like 2 5s would that count or would it have to be use 2 2s on their own?

[loud spire]

if you play a pair of twos it upgrades once per two

[forest fog]

Ooh

[loud spire]

also read this more

if your hand isn't exactly two cards, each being a 2, it won't upgrade

[forest fog]

Gotcha

[violet salmon]

Antikythera Mechanism, idk feel like doing it after I saw the name

[loud spire]

ooooo

very cool

[true jewel]

tbh the left one reminds me of NNF

[violet salmon]

tbh idk if the joker gonna be exotic+ or not since there's barely any desc there, but I assume not, (and I will regret it lol)

[loud spire]

def not

if it doesn't have a latin/norse name it won't be exotic or empyrean

[violet salmon]

oh bruh I forgot that aspect entirely lmao

[ornate lava]

honestly I had a thought for using Antikythera for my mod at one point, seeing this was like a hella jumpscare

but of course, your art is simply fantastic

[loud spire]

I need to do a lot of stuff with the concepting sheet

it has a lot of incorrect information

[violet salmon]

Schrodinger Cat (also I use the formula of it instead of the usual text "Joker" because I feel like it)

[little abyss]

@loud spire hey riley!
do i have your permission to use your code as a reference for my mod? it would be appreciated

[violet salmon]

Ignominiosa or whatever the name is

[loud spire]

mhm!

[violet salmon]

Ok this guy apparently an exotic and I screw up yet once again

[loud spire]

its alright i can repurpose the sprite, that joker was scrapped anyways lmao

[violet salmon]

Aha thanks, tbh it doesnt take long to convert it as three layer joker system with how I works with joker arts, I more like just self describe that I usually miss stuff like these all the time lol

[loud spire]

yeahh, i think this sprite would look better as it is rn anyways lmao

[violet salmon]

Oh, also I meant to ask, is it fine for me to resprite (well not really, more like a retouch) Aukatigi? I feel like upgrading it looks so it kinda in theme to its empyrean counterparts 🤔

[loud spire]

ah, yeah, that would be fine

[little abyss]

thanks!

[loud spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1381481472300552332/1391186262848966768/2025-07-05_15-34-25.mp4?ex=686afaac&is=6869a92c&hm=dcc7b3689893803cab9c5b30e0297fff5284ac6d463c5ec693034529e931d76b&

forgot to show

the jokers showing both +mult and xmult are visual bugs

[hard egret]

i actually was going to ask the same question since i was the one who made the original sprite and was hoping maybe you could improve on it considering you made most of the other empyreans

[violet salmon]

Aukatigi design touchups, I like the initial idea of using impossible shape and also the voided out background, so I decided to still keep it as the identity of Aukatigi and just merely touch it up to give it more flair, I did a major change to the frame to convey the theme better, I guess thats all I do for it

[hard egret]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-clap-gif-drake-anonymous-not-drake-clapping-not-drake-gif-5950075828474323723

as the original aukatigi spriter this is really sick

[violet salmon]

Enshroud spectral card rendition

2x

[loud spire]

woahh

peak

[loud spire]

very awesome

[violet salmon]

Rendition for "Purge Event" spectral card, I didn't really like the name of it since it kinda feel off using two word for it so I tried a one word variance, this one is one of the option which I think the best one (idk I'm an ESL so I might be wrong) but I alr made several option in the back : Shatter, Devastation, Purgare, Vitiation, and Negate as the name if you think its gonna be better

[grizzled shadow]

decided to add an idea to the concept sheet idk if it's a good idea but it's an idea

[violet salmon]

Rendition for "cryostasis" well, tbh, this one isn't even marked as a spectral, but looking at suggested effect of what it does (it isnt even agreed yet), it feel kinda in spectral territory, so I made it anyways (and prolly will regret in the future, but eh, thats for future me to worry abt )

[loud spire]

very awesome, ty!

it may be a while before you see them fully implemented though

coding consumables is extremely difficult

[violet salmon]

Its fair, tbh I already have expectation to not see them for quite a while because well, I had similar case in Ascensio so I learn that code side can be really difficult beside all other factor and irl stuffs, tbh I do this just to kill my boredom because I thought I alr set my pc all back up for digital painting, and I alr thought I wouldnt touch spriting for a while, well that didnt happen because I just realize my main drawing software is a huge trainwreck still, so I had to fix that and it is so boring it kills me

[loud spire]

yeahh fair

[violet salmon]

Yeah in short, I need smth to fill my boredom and doing one layer spriting is quite easy enough to do which is why I kinda do these, also I pick this mod because the other mod I've been to alr got more support from more ppl, so I dont need to involve myself as much as before there and can branch out

[rapid flax]

hover 4th, 7th and 8th joker in this page crash the game, update smod doesn't work

[loud spire]

theyre crashing because of multibox descriptions

not sure why updating smods doesnt work

[loud spire]

1: send crashlog
2: did you download from releases or download zip

[rapid flax]

2: Doesn't matter, it did crash in both stable and unstable version, but I did download from zip
1:

[solemn nebula]

what does the anomaly even do

[loud spire]

update 3xcredits

[grizzled shadow]

stupid idea building off the norse themed empyreans what do we think of it (intended to be a late game empyrean that has a 1-time effect of obliterating the balance)

[mellow bolt]

i really like this idea

[loud spire]

i like the idea

would probably change some stuff but overall pretty neat idea

[solemn nebula]

surprised we dont have valhalla as an empyrean yet

[loud spire]

I work slowly

[solemn nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618182883403759853/1360638370002243666/caption.gif

[grizzled shadow]

no,,,

[solar bobcat]

what have I done

[graceful dust]

Wait what did you do? Why did you say that???

[solar bobcat]

i made that gif

[graceful dust]

Ah. Weeellllll...

https://tenor.com/view/memes-funny-black-man-suit-dementia-repostimg-a-meme-gif-522274903423699638

[deft sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-funny-black-man-suit-dementia-repostimg-a-meme-gif-522274903423699638

[graceful dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618182883403759853/1360638370002243666/caption.gif

Aaeeeee

[deft sedge]

checkmate

[graceful dust]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-raiden-metal-gear-jet-steam-sam-friendship-gif-25014876

Funnily enough, that is like the first and probably only time I will ever use that gif

No kidding I had that sit in my favorite GIF's for definitely a year or more

Never actually used it until today, yay :D

[graceful dust]

Also funnily enough, I did the same thing when I first got this gif

https://tenor.com/view/stole-gif-9684401259001717911

[deft sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/favorited-gif-favorited-gif-favorites-favorites-gif-stolen-gif-15458469069843121563

this one's a good one too

Conveys the message in pure silence

[graceful dust]

Lmao

But imma stick with my two ones

Especially the latter.

Actually nah, it's funny to just airdrop that gif while responding to another gif

[graceful dust]

https://tenor.com/view/favorited-gif-favorited-gif-favorites-favorites-gif-stolen-gif-15458469069843121563

https://tenor.com/view/memes-funny-black-man-suit-dementia-repostimg-a-meme-gif-522274903423699638

[ocean token]

https://tenor.com/view/favorited-gif-favorited-gif-favorites-favorites-gif-stolen-gif-15458469069843121563

[crimson rain]

The latest commit worksn't

Nevermind

[boreal terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/miku-rule8-rule8-hatsune-miku-alkruhn-gif-7089686636519559385

[sick scaffold]

SPAMTON, GET ME A COMICALLY LARGE CIGARETTE

[grizzled shadow]

*YES M[[Sagittarius A]]'AM!

[tulip ingot]

https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/Sagittarius_A?action=edit&redlink=1

[tall ivy]

Very cool!

[loud spire]

Non-realm based empyrean for fun (realm empyreans are giving me a headache)

repost bc description was a tad broken

[loud spire]

tyty, its a tad complex but i think that's fine

[tall ivy]

Honestly, I think it is the right amount for this kind of Joker. The only thing I would recommend to help make the Joker more readable is to label the top of each box. Something to denote the first is talking about the position in the Joker Slots, and the second it's scoring potential

[loud spire]

I'm not sure i follow

[tall ivy]

Labels like When Moved: and When Cards Score:

[loud spire]

hm

[tall ivy]

Alternatively, if possible, color coding the textboxes could also work if you stay consistant with it across multi text-box Jokers

[waxen aurora]

Omg a Cryptposting reference

[loud spire]

ALmost finished

[loud spire]

sorry for the delay yall

motivation is hard

[little abyss]

you know what else is hard

shaders

[loud spire]

😭 😭 😭

[lean trench]

infinite slot glitch 😱

[winter crane]

Entropy's down the hall to the left

[elfin musk]

hi

[true jewel]

bye

[waxen aurora]

eye

[winter crane]

rye

[grim spruce]

rie

[grizzled shadow]

dye

[true jewel]

lie

[grizzled shadow]

tie

[deft sedge]

try

[true jewel]

my

[deft sedge]

gaslighting

[winged viper]

no thanks

[faint estuary]

D E A D M O D

[queen robin]

should have been named

redprint

(also dang april message)

[true jewel]

That isn't a word

[loud spire]

can't promise anything but im gonna try and end this hiatus

[grim spruce]

real?

[sleek torrent]

where file

[swift hedge]

What

[waxen aurora]

Github?

[solemn nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/you-probably-havent-done-todays-balatrodle-balatro-balatrodle-gatekeeping-meme-gif-5675238623235478626

[slate crown]

I haven’t

[ebon breach]

...I'm pretty sure that server has been nuked anyways, so I don't think there'll be any issues.

[grizzled shadow]

that comment is 6 months old

[loud spire]

bro

LOL

[solar bobcat]

insane

[open violet]

Riley....

[loud spire]

what's up

[open violet]

astronomica update

[loud spire]

not going well