Astronomica

[loud spire]

ooo, i like it

tyyy

might comment out infared until i can get a better name for it

[tribal cave]

and then this one was originally called floss, and doesn't fit with "infrared" at all... but, since you mentioned being able to change it, i'll give it anyway

lemme get an image

[loud spire]

but it's looking like I'm ahead of schedule for the next release!

next release is gonna be the largest update in the mod's history so far

so much content

[tribal cave]

here i'll get a video

pretty basic but yea

[loud spire]

this absolutely works

ty

[tribal cave]

m

[loud spire]

well that eliminates one of my top concerns for the mod, thank you!

[tribal cave]

yea np(error)

[loud spire]

now pretty much the only thing left to do is art for exadversum and Foole (reworked version of the score carrying joker, upgraded to legendary)

Foole might have placeholder art for a while

[loud spire]

I think legendaries are probably the hardest jokers to draw, since they have unique faces

[tribal cave]

yeah

[loud spire]

ughh, the smods server is completely barren

I was hoping I'd be able to bring up the font pr directly to someone there

but it's a ghost town

[loud spire]

changed the names of the shaders around a bit, experimenting

[loud spire]

i cannot get this one to work for some reason

actually

figured it out

whoopsies

there we go

[tribal cave]

yay

[loud spire]

i absolutely broke stopwatch goddamn 😭

[forest fog]

Gotta go the monster energy route, ultra violet and ultra sunshine

[loud spire]

WHY ARE YOU DOING THATTTT

DUDE

[forest fog]

Time is an illusion

Are they supposed to be chip and chips?

[loud spire]

no they are not 😭

[forest fog]

Well at least you found it maybe probably hopefully

[loud spire]

the quality difference of art here is insane

basically everything i made is questionable at best

while everyone else's is breathtaking 😭

https://github.com/NaoRiley/Astronomica

New update released a tad early!

Note: You NEED this version of smods: https://github.com/NaoRiley/Astronomica/releases/download/v0.2.0/smods.7z

or else it wont work

theres still some minor stuff needed (animating runic deck, tweaking credits) but most of the important stuff is here

and most importantly, it should be stable!

[warm nest]

Ok, i can try w smh

The twain
The triad
The ménage
The edict
The dynasty
(alt xmult hand type jokers)

Idea:

[terse storm]

it was my idea

[tribal cave]

*oh my god that is so dumb

[terse storm]

yeah you should remove it from the mod

so only i can have it implemented already

erm this is just like how entropy already did it......

[loud spire]

yooo

awesome tyy

I could perhaps use these for xchips or xscore

[warm nest]

I'll do better soon

And sry I didn't respond

[loud spire]

ah, i think this is a crossmod thing

@tall ivy

[little abyss]

yeah probably

[tall ivy]

Sorry, what's this about cross mod?

[loud spire]

i changed how stopwatch works in astronomica last night (i wouldn't change the exotic version to match it because the code is super hacky and broken) and i think it causes issues

i might temp revert stopwatch tbh

it's causing too many issues

i tried implementing that anticheat i was talking about

and it kinda works apart from staying at 0 if it ever reaches 0 due to the anticheat

which I can't for the life of me figure out why

[tall ivy]

Gotcha

[winged viper]

forgot plural on second line, values not the same i think

[loud spire]

already fixed

[loud spire]

i really need to make exadversum look better

😭

[terse storm]

whats the inspiration behind the sprite

i could give it a go but itd have to be tomorrow

[violet salmon]

I had idea pitched on my sketchbook related to celtic stuff, but then I remember exadversum is exotic and not empyrean so I literally need to redraw my idea for it

[loud spire]

ah

i dont really have a good answer for that tbh

my original concept utilized arrows a lot to symbolize swapping/switching

[terse storm]

having a blind token being flipped like a coin for part of the floating part could be cool

but idk about the rest

[loud spire]

ohh perhaps

[terse storm]

or chip i should say

since blind chips is the actual name

and only entropy calls them tokens

[violet salmon]

Interesting

Hmm I wonder how I would approach it to signify the "flip" action

[terse storm]

hard to do

but im sure it could be done

[violet salmon]

Yeah, prolly need to animate it (for me personally), but if it'll reference the blind we gonna face, that'll prolly be nightmare to execute

[terse storm]

nah it can prob just be something generic and/or a specific blind

just make it the plant

[loud spire]

LOL

making it unique for every blind sounds like a hell i wouldnt wish upon anyone

[violet salmon]

Yeah it reminds me of the D20 project, like are you gonna portray all the 20 side dice roll for it (aside if it just gonna be like choco die)

[loud spire]

def ignore the chocodie idea for now lol

i need to rewrite like everything

only thing set in stone is making it a d20

[terse storm]

this reminds me i still need to rework apeirostemma

its gonna be actual hell but i want to give it 1 effect for each standard dice in a set of dice

• d1

[violet salmon]

Yeah, but I reference the one main cryptid does (or it just mandela and I misremember stuff)

[loud spire]

huh

[violet salmon]

Yeah, it is in suggestions channel, idk abt the progress of it or how they handle it, but anyways, I'll prolly try to sketch out ideas for exadversum for a bit on aseprite

[loud spire]

ah alrighty

i didnt know cryptid was making a d20

could be higher

[tribal cave]

js get playerrwon bruh

[loud spire]

i love crashing my game!!!!!!!

[tribal cave]

i should implement your fix on playerrwon honestly

now to be fair i am on mobile…

[loud spire]

you could also prob use FormatArrowMult to make the joker description look better

[tribal cave]

would it though

it needs to say “{N}9 Mult” because of the reference

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1264415972417077339/1353543263356977203/N9.gif

[loud spire]

ah

lmao

[tribal cave]

best playerrwon quote of the century

slightly tops

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274103559113150629/1336183109145596055/no.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1264415972417077339/1320849214900666429/absolutecinema.gif

anyway

[loud spire]

idea, thoughts?

[loud spire]

nice

[loud spire]

decided against this

its a bit too weird

[tribal cave]

also there is never a reason to not just have it as the leftmost joker

[loud spire]

preventing retrig lag

[tribal cave]

maybe but like come on now

[rapid flax]

Bug: Tetratia is showing X(Value) when triggered instead of correct ^^(Value)

[tribal cave]

may be due to the format stuff

[loud spire]

could you rephrase this?

[tribal cave]

eg tetratia is showing “X5 Mult” and not “^^5 Mult”

[loud spire]

oh wow

[tribal cave]

lmao

[loud spire]

how tf did i miss that

will be fixed next update

[tribal cave]

yeah, again, they said this would be fixed in next update

[loud spire]

im really struggling for ideas tbh

[tribal cave]

you called?

[loud spire]

im trying to come up with a new empyrean

[tribal cave]

no seriously though

[loud spire]

one that isnt super impossible to code

[tribal cave]

do you have a theme

literally anything

i’ll see if i can jumble it up enough in my brain to create something

[loud spire]

hmm

preferably smth that isnt just more super big scoring

asgard is more than enough for that

aukatigi too

[rapid flax]

I only need image

[loud spire]

... and radalingr 😭

im thinking maybe something econ related

[tribal cave]

let me think

• ^$2 at end of round
• all items in shop are free (including items after rerolls) every other round
• exponentiate the sell value of all jokers by 2 at end of round
• blind rewards are exponentiated(?) by your ante

these are all mediocre

but is there anything here you would like me to build upon?

[loud spire]

hm

sell value one seems interesting

[tribal cave]

okay now let me think again

??? Joker
Earn the total sell value of all your Jokers as $ when Blind selected
Exponentiate the sell value of all owned Jokers by 2 at end of round
Empyrean

hmm

[loud spire]

hmm perhaps

[tribal cave]

i’ll think about something better

[loud spire]

i like the idea though

[tribal cave]

oh god i have an idea

??? Joker
+N card selection limit
+N hand size
Create N Playing Cards with a possible Enhancement, Edition, and Seal when Blind selected
Multiply the sell value of all owned Jokers by 2 at end of round
N is equal to the square root of the sum of the sell values of all owned jokers
Empyrean

good god there’s so many effects but

sell value galore

[loud spire]

my god thats complex

[tribal cave]

kinda the point

many effects

all relating to the same thing

[loud spire]

yeah

[tribal cave]

i assume it should be simpler

my original idea was just the card creation

but i decided that it wasn’t very powerful if you couldn’t even draw the cards

how about this

??? Joker
If this is the rightmost Joker, create the square root of N Playing Cards with an Enhancement, Edition, and Seal when Blind selected
Multiply the sell value of all owned Jokers by 2 at end of round
N is equal to the square root of the sum of the sell values of all owned jokers
Empyrean

so it’s essentially sqrt(sqrt(sum of all jokers’ sell values)) cards when blind selected

and they are all guaranteed to have an enhancement, edition, and seal

[loud spire]

interesting

perhaps

[tribal cave]

yea not the greatest idea tbh

[loud spire]

okay now hold on

this straight up just becomes tetration

LOL

[tribal cave]

yippee

[rotund rampart]

can ye make the clusterfuck score joker only appear if you played clusterfuck once

[loud spire]

that should be how it works are you on the latest release

[little abyss]

y'all fixing the stopwatch crash?

[loud spire]

is it an ascensio crash or is it crashing with astronomica only

if its the former then yes if its the latter please send the log

[little abyss]

i remember it was from SMODS Ascensio

[loud spire]

yeah thatll be fixed soon

[little abyss]

peak

[loud spire]

i tried implementing a system to stop people from exploiting stopwatch by leaving balatro on overnight

but it just made it super buggy

so it needs more work

[swift hedge]

^^^2 mult /j

[forest fog]

You could give it a cap and have it reset when it reaches it

[loud spire]

asgard is already better and more interesting anyways

[loud spire]

i fear that would have the same technical issue as the current implementation

[forest fog]

Aw darn

[loud spire]

hopefully implementing smth thatll let me not need the custom smods version

[tribal cave]

m

[loud spire]

good news and bad news

[little abyss]

share it

[loud spire]

i forgot to share it

ok

so

bad news is almost no more

im pretty close to getting the game working without needing the custom smods

just a few little snags

[tribal cave]

okay peak

[loud spire]

ughhh

ive hit this roadblock

the game no longer crashes, but the fonts display in english for some reason

what the fuck is wrong

[warped bone]

Hi, I haven't talked in here before but I wanted to say that I think your mod is really really cool and I'm excited for the things that could be added in the future!

[shut ocean]

=score when

[hard egret]

hold on do score operations play the gong sound or is that not in yet

or am i thinking of a completely different thing and im going crazy

[plain zenith]

=score 10{1000}10 when

[loud spire]

yes

[loud spire]

thank you!

[untold moat]

Where can I download this mod?

[loud spire]

pins

[untold moat]

I went to the github, but when I tried to add the mod and run the game, it instacrashed and said it detected a duplicate of steamodded

[loud spire]

make sure you get the correct version of smods

[untold moat]

So apparently what I downloaded wasn't the mod

Hold on...

Oops! The game crashed:
Duplicate installation of Steamodded detected! Please remove the duplicate steamodded/smods folder in your mods folder.

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1o-FULL (best guess)
Modded Version: 1.0.0~BETA-0521a-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.7.1
Platform: Windows

Stack Traceback

(3) C function 'function: 0x20c7af48'
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 1734
(6) global C function 'require'
(7) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x20c69538 {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x20c69588, gammacorrect:false, title:Balatro, externalstorage:false (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(10) global C function 'xpcall'
(11) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])

[loud spire]

get it from code -> download zip

or if you're in releases download from the source code button

[deep sonnet]

guys who wants tetrtetration score

[loud spire]

there's also an smods version there too that you need (hopefully not for long)

[deep sonnet]

{score}score

[loud spire]

replace your current version of smods with the one linked there

[untold moat]

Oh

[loud spire]

i can already theoretically do hyperop score

[untold moat]

I'm not used to doing the source code download

[loud spire]

yeah

if you run the game and get a crash relating to fonts, get thks version of smods: https://github.com/NaoRiley/Astronomica/releases/download/v0.2.0/smods.7z

[untold moat]

It'll still be compatible with current version cryptid, right? Or is it not compatible with cryptid or sleeves?

[loud spire]

It's compatible with everything i am aware of yes

you just need the specific version of smods that i just listed

[deep sonnet]

gay joker
+7,352 score
self-destructs if played hand contains a straight idk

[untold moat]

Aight

Haven't really looked over here because I was planning to get your mod when you first mentioned it

But before I did, I wanted to get my first quad e in vanilla cryptid/sleeve

[loud spire]

Yeah, sorry for the complex installation

It shouldn't be required very soon

I just have to figure out one issue

[untold moat]

Now that I've done that, it's time to see how much further I can go before the game gets pissed at me and blows my fucking head off with a mossberg

[loud spire]

LOL

[untold moat]

There are few lines I'm willing to cross, especially after making a tropical nuclear bomb

1 x86 tropical smoothie and 250 pointers

[swift hedge]

This is cryptid as a whole

[untold moat]

For a total of 250 nostalgic googol jokers and 500 copies of that tropical smoothie

[swift hedge]

Did you know: this is better than poletwrox

[untold moat]

This was the final result when I sold it

[swift hedge]

m

[untold moat]

I had exponentia, facimile, and primus

[deep sonnet]

its not very difficult to be better than polterworx

i know im gonna get

like

shot for this

but its true

uh

tricker +444 score

[loud spire]

idk if ill ever implement hyperop score

maybe for crp

[deep sonnet]

also riley

i can code jokers now :3

[loud spire]

wdym

[deep sonnet]

well what do you think i mean i can code a joker where playing cards gain X0.27 chips when scored

and i can code a joker that gains X0.1 mult whenever a card is bought from the shop

[loud spire]

ohh you mean you learned how to code jokers?

nice

[untold moat]

Question about the Empyerean cards

Can you make them using a pointer?

[loud spire]

you can't

they're better than exotic

[untold moat]

Unfortunate, but no matter

I've already made a setup that's shaping up to be pretty fucking dumb

And I'm not even out of ante 1 yet

[untold moat]

What does Anomaly do? I'd like to know what I'm getting myself into before I potential fuck up my run big time since I'm in a good spot to get some really big kekw numbers

Also I'm still in ante 1

[loud spire]

how in gods name did you do that

its immutable

LOL

[loud spire]

use it on a judgement

[untold moat]

All you need is a single pointer and either a single ctrl v or a single perkeo

If you can print pointers, you can crack this game open like a god damn egg in your very first shop

[loud spire]

well yeah but

[untold moat]

Also

Uh

[loud spire]

how did you get the chip gain to e33

[untold moat]

There is a small chance

That I might have two tetratias

[loud spire]

the joker is immutable, which means it shouldn't be able to be affected by oil lamp

i did that because i wanted to prevent any weird bugs

[loud spire]

peak

[untold moat]

Also, give me a moment

[untold moat]

[loud spire]

well that includes anything that changes values

[untold moat]

I dunno man

I've been using tropical smoothie and it's been working so far

[loud spire]

weird

have you been running into any bugs?

[untold moat]

None, aside from ungodly amounts of lag which is 100% my fault

[loud spire]

interesting

[untold moat]

I will say this though:

The cap does work

[loud spire]

so the cap is immutable but the chip modifier isn't

weird

[untold moat]

The gains hit 1.0e300 and it's not going any higher

I just sold a tropical smoothie and that gains remains unaffected

THough that might be the version of smod you have going?

[loud spire]

actually i think the cap was hardcoded temporarily and i forgot to fix it

[untold moat]

If oil lamp also caps at 1.0e300 then it's not you, it's smod

[loud spire]

so in reality it might be above 100

[untold moat]

Because I remember oil lamp was the same way

And it stayed like that until smod got updated

I remember cuz I ran into that in a previous version while trying to oil lamp a card into the kekwverse

Tetratia however...

[loud spire]

yeah nothing about this makes sense

[untold moat]

Tetratia is a little goofy

Do note, though

I have 2 of them, each sandwiched by a blueprint and a redprint, and I have 2 boredoms

Why?

Wait

Does that include Scalae?

[untold moat]

Cuz I have Scalae

[loud spire]

it should

I'll investigate later

[untold moat]

Scalae and tropical smoothie are the only two value modifiers I've used

For jokers, at least

[loud spire]

knowing how jank scalae is i wouldn't be surprised if it affected immutable jokers

[untold moat]

That's possibly it, consider I'm running into problems now

Seems the calculations are so blursed that the game is crashing

And by crashing I mean just closing without giving me an error screen

[loud spire]

yeahh

[loud spire]

mod updated, fonts are temporarily disabled

good news is you dont need a custom smods anymore

[vapid sonnet]

what!

[forest fog]

does the punch card joker still need edits?

[loud spire]

yeah, it's based on the punch card item from undertale, which can be used to skip bosses and major cutscenes in speedrunning, which is where the effect idea comes from

i have a draft somewhere of the sprite hold on

[loud spire]

heres the reference image and my sprite i made (which isnt bad but idk if i like the text)

[tall ivy]

I would be mindful on the art for it. The undertale mod already has a punchcard joker (different effect) and it is the punch card itself.

[loud spire]

ah

i see

[forest fog]

We could make it like similar but more balatro-y somehow

[loud spire]

yeahh

i also really need help coding this

its one of my most difficult ideas

[forest fog]

I've got 0 clue where you'd even start there

[loud spire]

i know its probably possible, its just beyond my abilities

[tall ivy]

The easiest way I think you could do that is enter the blind, force use alt tab, and have no end of round money

[loud spire]

perhaps

my idea was to increase the ante, reroll the boss blind, and uncomplete the small and big blind

[solar bobcat]

shayy reference

[loud spire]

i love shayy

[grim spruce]

shayy undertale mention

[forest fog]

Shayy undertale mention

He did a balatro video a bit back iirc

[violet salmon]

Exadversum resprite rendition, not my proudest since I feel beat after busy days, but I feel like making smth for today, might tune it a bit more later

[loud spire]

yooo this is peak

tysm

[loud spire]

doing some more work on exadversum

working on more cryptid blinds

[loud spire]

...or not, boss blinds are ALWAYS much harder to code than you expect them to be

anyways, does anyone have any better ideas to word this?

[rough bloom]

uhh

[loud spire]

is cryptid updated

also update talisman

[loud spire]

you dont have cryptid installed at all 😭

[rough bloom]

it says it's installed when i uninstall astronomica

[loud spire]

just try updating talisman then

[rough bloom]

that worked thx

[hard egret]

i played two hands

[loud spire]

i need to fix scalae breaking this 😭

[violet salmon]

Refine attempt

composite

wow discord didnt like the composite gif huh (you gotta zoom to it)

[waxen aurora]

It looks fine to me

[violet salmon]

Its not on my end, but anyways, the spritesheet itself doesnt have a problem so I guess thats that

[loud spire]

awesome! i love it

I may need to ask mariofan for help implementing it though, I've only worked with rudimentary sprite animations 😭

[bitter seal]

Is there a limit on asgard?

Wasn't really paying attention, but the chips reset back to +1

[loud spire]

not on the operator no

the chips resetting shouldn't be an issue though since once the operator gets high enough the chip amount doesn't matter

[bitter seal]

I mean the operator also resets back to +

Maybe anaptixi + that entropic joker that multipies value breaks it somehow?

[loud spire]

the operator never resets

or at least it's not supposed to

[dusty bridge]

This mod is very awesome btw

[lean trench]

im crashing out rn

-# not really

[dusty bridge]

whata

[lean trench]

poessions

and btw

what the fucc does anomaly even do

because i cant for the life of me decipher watafak this means

[dusty bridge]

Use it

[lean trench]

it didnt let me use it

it was in a pack

[loud spire]

use it on a judgement

[lean trench]

what is judgement this is my first time playing astronomica 😭

this is quite funny tho

[loud spire]

it's a tarot

[lean trench]

oh shit

im a dumbass

youre right

[loud spire]

what the actual fuck happened 😭 😭 😭

[lean trench]

i have no idea bro 😭🥀

it worked like a hermit tho

it did give me 20 bucks

[loud spire]

ok so

i fucked up somehow

ill try fixing that later

i genuinely can't understand how that could have possibly happened

[loud spire]

tyty!

[lean trench]

im guessing it probably wasnt you 🚡 🚡 🚡 🚡 🚡 🚡 🚡 🚡 🚡 🚡

[loud spire]

ah

lmao

i mean i did take ownership of hermit so maybe it broke something

but it's more likely something else

Since i haven't run into this issue myself

[lean trench]

ye

aqrlr is 100% correct tho

asgard might be my new favorite card ever

just because its that broken

[loud spire]

lmao

I'm quite fond of aukatigi too

[lean trench]

oh god i just realized something

[loud spire]

I don't like radalingr though it's gonna have a new effect soon

[lean trench]

when the new ver of pwx comes out im gonna do something very stupid

asgard counts retriggers separately right?

[loud spire]

yes

[dusty bridge]

Which one was Asgard

Was it the chips one

[loud spire]

the operator scaling one

[lean trench]

wavy editioned koslo jarfel + asgard

[loud spire]

i have absolutely no idea what that is

[lean trench]

koslo jarfel retriggers all played 8s 88 times

[loud spire]

I don't care much for pwx unfortunately

ah

i see

lmao

[lean trench]

wavy edition makes him retrigger 30 times

that counts as 2640 retriggers

for every played 8

[loud spire]

you can force upgrade asgard with demicolon too btw

its way more efficient

[dusty bridge]

Oh .

[shut ocean]

peam

[dusty bridge]

Demicolon too peak

[loud spire]

also try to avoid using scalae with asgard

[shut ocean]

it better increase chips by 1 as well

[loud spire]

scalae is fucking broken

[shut ocean]

to be historically accurate demicolon

[loud spire]

it affects asgard even though it's supposed to be immutable

[dusty bridge]

Scalae is broken in all cases

[loud spire]

iirc it does

[lean trench]

ok

its midnight

im gonna go to sleep

but tomorrow im gonna explode my computer with a retrigger build

[loud spire]

i might honestly experiment with mutable asgard anyways though tbh

[dusty bridge]

I probably should too but naaaahhhh... (I'm not tired yet ololo)

[loud spire]

making it immutable was only to prevent bugs

but i could very well make it mutable id just have to be less lazy

[lean trench]

goodnight

thank you for blessing us with this amount of peam 🥲

[dusty bridge]

do it so it's hyper empyrean or something

[loud spire]

so it's what?

[dusty bridge]

Nothin

[loud spire]

😭 😭 😭

[dusty bridge]

What if instead of astronomica it was gastronomica and it made every joker to a food joker

[swift hedge]

Why add a g

https://tenor.com/view/skull-epic-cool-cool-skeleton-keyboard-gif-9406471634714037785

[toxic geode]

i can help with art :3

[forest fog]

Poissons

https://tenor.com/view/steve-steve-le-poisson-poisson-orange-le-poisson-gif-3465189812343830615

[dusty bridge]

position

positron?

[shut ocean]

particle card reference

[toxic geode]

here take this i dont want it

[loud spire]

https://github.com/NaoRiley/Astronomica/releases/tag/v0.2.3

runes are finally working

[shut ocean]

peam

[forest fog]

peam

[lean trench]

this is officially the most broken run ive ever had

asgard is currently at {8}3 chips

[shut ocean]

demimolon

[lean trench]

it looks like this now

and asgard is at {23}3 chips

[shut ocean]

peam

[lean trench]

ok so now i got plywood forest and my deck now has 8 cards

in total

im gonna kamikaze

[lean trench]

ae

[swift hedge]

Imagine an empyrean joker that creates a negative copy of ALL jokers

[forest fog]

Doesn't one of the exotic jokers in base cryptid already do that?

I think it gives you two negative jokers per hand played in the order they're listed in the collection

[swift hedge]

I meant speculo but stronger

Negative copy of all owned jokers

I forgot the owned

But maybe all jokers in the collection would be cool too

Idk how unbalanced it is but whateverrr

[violet salmon]

This prolly gonna insta lag the game

[loud spire]

not doing that

it would be really laggy

and also just not good

My design philosophy for Empyreans is simplicity and efficiency

creating a negative copy of every joker just isn't fun 😭

[loud spire]

yeah

nobody would want this as a joker

😭

[dusty bridge]

All V2
Does everything all at once (including crashing your game)
Empyrean

Fire?

[loud spire]

😭 😭 😭

[swift hedge]

This is worse

[swift hedge]

I meant making a copy of owned jokers but i Guess that's laggy too so nvm

[dusty bridge]

Eh somewhat

[loud spire]

it's also just not better enough than speculo to warrant empyrean

[dusty bridge]

I mean error does that too eight

[loud spire]

either way

[dusty bridge]

Right

[swift hedge]

o

[dusty bridge]

The realization kicking in when error already did it

[loud spire]

what is error

[dusty bridge]

That one joker that makes everything glitched

Unless I'm forgetting the name

[loud spire]

is it in cryptid

Ohh wajt

[dusty bridge]

Yuh

[loud spire]

no

i remember

the epic

[dusty bridge]

I be cryptin I be ballin

Yeah

[loud spire]

anyways

i do have a potential idea for an empyrean that utilizes ACE

but idk if ill do it

since ace is basically just

lets you do literally anything

[violet salmon]

ACE, more like Debugplus (/j)

[dusty bridge]

What was ace

[loud spire]

arbitrary code execution

[dusty bridge]

I think I know that

[loud spire]

I've been struggling coming up with ideas tbh

though i intend to actually make empyrean jokers for each of the nine realms in Norse mythology, since we have Asgard now

I just need ideas for them

[violet salmon]

Ngl, idk if each of them have clear symbol like asgard for me to turn them into art ideas, as for the realm design itself probably gonna be easy, symbol for each one of them idk if it exists though (well I can just make the stuff up, but that gonna feel wrong)

[dusty bridge]

Niflheim is dark
Tenebris is dark
Niflheim=tenebris THE SEQUEL

[dusty bridge]

Symbols for em exist

[loud spire]

niflheim might be something relating to negatives idk

would be hard coming up with something strong enough that's unique

[dusty bridge]

Shii I'm looking at the god of war wiki

[loud spire]

lmao

fun fact i actually started playing god of war after the Norse design philosophy of Empyrean jokers had been chosen

im a massive fan now though

[violet salmon]

Ok, if this is symbol for each of them, I think I need to remake the symbol for asgard and move its symbol to other one

[swift hedge]

Infinite joker slots
No that's actually bad
I suck at this

[loud spire]

I'm not sure if it's entirely necessary tbh, asgard is arguably the most important of the realms, so it having its own symbol is warranted

[dusty bridge]

Yeah this is what I saw

[swift hedge]

Runic shenanigans

[loud spire]

I think it would look better as it is now anyways

[dusty bridge]

Also look it's the flint

[violet salmon]

lmaoo

[swift hedge]

:flint:

[loud spire]

we have a legendary that does that

lmao

[swift hedge]

wat

[dusty bridge]

Empyrean that forces it so it's the only joker you can have but really op

[loud spire]

I don't care much for that kind of restrictive design tbh

[violet salmon]

well, I can see it could work like inanis in ascensio but instead of giving mult per joker slot, it'll reduce blind size percent per joker slot gained, idk around that part (am definitely not good at the ideas beside of art)

[swift hedge]

Oh

[loud spire]

could be quite cool

[violet salmon]

prolly gonna clash with current exadversum since two are gonna be similar, but idk

[loud spire]

but yeah i think ill go for this, with the exception of asgard because i think the current one looks cooler :P

[loud spire]

perhaps

I'll come up with smth eventually

[dusty bridge]

So true

[swift hedge]

I remember having that legendary that gives leftover score and i had the finity obsidian orb joker and my score started to go in the negatives before i even played anything
Unfortunately there was no wifi and i wasn't able to record all this

[dusty bridge]

Tbh what can you do with an X

[violet salmon]

Ngl, I'll prolly just remodel the runic symbol of each realm a bit so it doesnt looks like you just have balatro boss blinds as your companion jokers

[loud spire]

how long ago was this and did you retrigger/blueprint the joker

[loud spire]

yeahh

[dusty bridge]

The Really Awesome Joker With An X

[loud spire]

you have a lot of creative freedom here

so go crazy lmao

I'm sure you'll make some breathtaking art either way

[dusty bridge]

whatt I can't have the flint as a super epic joker

Cries in a corner

[loud spire]

but yeah

exadversum has been a pain in the ass to code lately

i haven't been able to get it to do anything i want it to

[swift hedge]

-maybe like some days ago, not like a lot
-no there was no blueprint, I'm gonna try to be more clear with this

• the score was going up/down continuously before playing or even in the shop, and it didn't stop until i selled the legendary
• for some odd reason the score was going in the million negatives, i played a hand and now it was exponentially rising up, it was also pretty loud which forced me even more to sell it

[violet salmon]

well, it still gonna be flint, just with more drip

[loud spire]

ughhh i thought i fixed that

what the fuck is wrong

[swift hedge]

I don't think i updated the mod tho due to no wifi on the pc

[loud spire]

ah

[dusty bridge]

LETS GO

[swift hedge]

I think obsidian orb acts as a blueprint, since, well, it copies the effect of all jokers

Including that

[violet salmon]

also did we have plan to resprite anomaly spectral card? since I feel it looks kind of simple, I kinda have an idea for it, but idk if its necessary for now

[loud spire]

yeah, i was going to

the current is a placeholder

it's a low priority though

[swift hedge]

More art from the best artist it is

[violet salmon]

I see, I kinda want to try it since I never do spectrals beforehand (also tarots, but no one need it yet)

[dusty bridge]

What's th idea

[violet salmon]

idk, I just pick it from the name "astronomica" itself, so it'll be space related, as how I am gonna interpret it, I usually just have it on the go and change it along the way

ngl Iwill prolly gonna expect it similar to soul so it'll gonna be layered spectrals, but not sure just yet

[loud spire]

yeah, i couldn't decide if i was gonna make it 3 layers or not

bur i probably will

[swift hedge]

Astronomica ❌
Astronomically scaling score :correct_symbol:

[violet salmon]

Ngl part of why I make all of my resprite attempt "starry", because the name is kinda point it that way

[swift hedge]

Oops all stars

Yeah that makes sense

[violet salmon]

deck full of diamond card real for every astronomica run (/j)

[swift hedge]

Suit deck:

Wait

I didn't read

[dusty bridge]

Empyrean based on +/x/^/{N}score?

[violet salmon]

I think 2 is enough since I think it gonna looks convoluted with three because the depth and the slight movement of layered sprite, but that just my assumption, who knows if it gonna looks amazing :)

[sick scaffold]

isn't that what it's supposed to do?

[loud spire]

asgard was meant to be immutable, but i fixed some bugs and just made it mutable in the latest update

[loud spire]

Yeah, fair

[loud spire]

?

[little abyss]

there's a Joker that copies every Joker all at once i think

[heady quest]

What does factoria do?

Like I am confused

[loud spire]

1: you are incredibly outdated if you're still calling it that
2: it scales factorially (for example, 3! Is 3x2x1, 6! Is 6x5x4x3x2x1)

[heady quest]

I call it by it's name

In my game

[loud spire]

yeah it has a different name now lmao

update the mod

[heady quest]

What is it called now

[dusty bridge]

factorial frank /lie

[heady quest]

When did it get changed

[clear marten]

Real question is when do I get to build the world tree

[heady quest]

ts crashing after update

[tall ivy]

Quick question: Is Foole based on a specific irl or fictious joker?

[loud spire]

irl joker! there's a hyperlink to a wikipedia page in the concepting sheet

[loud spire]

make sure smods is updated

[tall ivy]

Looking over the article, I have to ask if that is the only picture we have of her? As well, if that is the case, I personally would like to see Will Somers also get a card given that the two are seemingly connected to each other.

[loud spire]

I believe there's more, just not on that wiki page

also, agreed on Sommers

[tall ivy]

I have a suggestion that his effect have something to do with food jokers given this anecdote:

[loud spire]

oo, perhaps

i agree

[loud spire]

i had an interesting idea

[tall ivy]

Thats definetly a powerful effect, but I thought I saw that one before. I think a ronald legendary had something similar

[loud spire]

hm

I haven't seen that

amazing that edition deck is fucked up the one day i decide to test editions

does anyone know why edition deck just becomes red deck?

i have the latest like everything im pretty sure

[stuck dagger]

ok since im done with finals I might be able to work on some art for this

[loud spire]

yoo peak

[loud spire]

oh yeah i should make a wiki page

[dusty bridge]

Is there a discord yet

[loud spire]

there will be soon

[tall ivy]

Astronomica already has a wiki page

[loud spire]

it does?

since when?

[violet salmon]

Anomaly wip

[loud spire]

wtf this is completely up to date too

[loud spire]

woahh

this is awesome

[dusty bridge]

Wait that's awesome

The red/pink looks kinda off but it's still awesome

[violet salmon]

if the tone off by slight margin I prolly couldn't do anything to that since I am colorblind, but I am trying atleast to get the spectral vibe right

[loud spire]

i still haven't implemented the new sprite for exadversum yet or the animated version of runic deck since i haven't quite figured out animations yet

im gonna ask mariofan for help eventually

[loud spire]

dw about it at all this is peak

[violet salmon]

Anomaly spectral card rendition (I kinda think you dont need many of em, so I can use more frame without much assuming it gonna tanks performance (I guess it'll be if it could be perkelated, but I think 50 isnt that much frames

[loud spire]

nah dw about it this is awesome

[loud spire]

experimenting

hm

well, mutable asgard seems to work

orrr maybe not?

whatever, ill fix it some other time

[stuck dagger]

What art is needed rn again?

[violet salmon]

Shape exploration for 8 other realm than beside asgard which alr been done

am not really sure the bg for each, but that can wait (I wish I have my pc fixed by now so I can do cleaner digital sketch, but oh well)

[violet salmon]

Alfheim wip

[swift hedge]

Yes I'm fire reacting a literal wip

[loud spire]

this is absolutely awesome omg

[loud spire]

Also, i'm going to be using the name "Nidavellir" for Svartalfheim, since the names are roughly interchangeable from what i can tell and i personally like this better

[swift hedge]

Svartalfheim

[bitter seal]

lmao I only only recognize some of these names because of god of war ragnarok

[loud spire]

im in the middle of a gow ragnarok playthrough lmao

the norse design philosophy for empyrean jokers was chosen before i played god of war but playing god of war has made it way cooler now for me

[violet salmon]

Alfheim rendition for now, I'm too invested in the bg that in the end barely any details show up anyways

[loud spire]

this is absolutely peak as always!

I've been brainstorming effects for it

[pallid jetty]

Hi!

[violet salmon]

Only wip of nidavellir for now because I am so sleepy

[vapid sonnet]

DAMN

[loud spire]

peak

[deft sedge]

Does anyone know why I immediately crashed when getting the mod? (ignore the long ass mod list)

It might have something to do with Trance actually

No, not that

[loud spire]

Update smods

[deft sedge]

ah

[loud spire]

sorry development has been slow yall

hoping itll speed up when i graduate

Would like help coming up with effect ideas for the remaining norse realm based empyreans!

[deft sedge]

Midgard could have something to do with balance?

Idk though I'm bad at making good ideas

[rapid flax]

wait, this is illegal

Triple Asgard?

[rapid flax]

what is low% stand for

[loud spire]

huh?

[bitter seal]

For alfheim, what about something with dark (club & spades) and light (diamonds & hearts) suits like how there are light and dark elves

like maybe light suits give chips and dark suits give mult or vice versa

[loud spire]

oo perhaps

I can work with that

[loud spire]

something like this perhaps?

[bitter seal]

Yep sounds good, insane with wild cards

[loud spire]

true

[little abyss]

Vanaheim could be something like granting your next drawn hand to be your most played hands and enhancing it or buffing it

since its associated with seeing the future

Nilfheim probably something to do with dark suits (Spades, Clubs), and it synergizes with Alfheim since they're related

[loud spire]

ohh perhaps

vanaheim idea seems hard to code though

[little abyss]

hmmm

there's also fertility and wisdom

[loud spire]

i could try

[little abyss]

but the future part makes the most sense

[loud spire]

Vanaheim is the realm I'm the least familiar with thematically

[little abyss]

fair fair

Nidavellir is probably going to be Empyrean's Wee

since its associated with the worlds of dwarf

[loud spire]

I see yeahh

[little abyss]

how do you make Wee broken though

[loud spire]

good question

[violet salmon]

Prolly could also tie-in steel card into nidavellir since dwarf kinda have some relation to blacksmithing but idk

[loud spire]

Yeahh that's true

perhaps i could make a new enhancement for it?

Dwarven steel

[little abyss]

maybe like

[violet salmon]

That could happen and you prolly just need to make the current steel color into bluish one to reference mithril probably (?)

[little abyss]

All hands gain XChips, where X is the total of 2s scored this run.

[loud spire]

yeahh

[loud spire]

tbh i think that's directly powerscaled by some exotics

like duplicare

i could maybe work off of that though

[little abyss]

yeah im not that good at making joker broken

[loud spire]

It's alr, the idea is there lmao

[little abyss]

either Wee or Steel Joker

[loud spire]

or perhaps both

I'd have to take care not to make the effect too complicated though

[little abyss]

thats fair

you guys fixed the stopwatch yet?

[loud spire]

I just reverted the anticheat

I suppose if someone wants to exploit the game in that way that's their own loss

[little abyss]

anticheat on cryptid is INSANE 😭

borderline pwx

[loud spire]

I just didn't want people leaving their computers on overnight is all

but nothing i can really do to control that

[little abyss]

imagine the outcome

where there's a longest stopwatch ever

could make a good competition

[loud spire]

😭 😭 😭

Def not a fun one

[little abyss]

its like that slow minecraft speedrun, the slowest one being 14D verified by the speedrun.com moderators

[loud spire]

lmao

yeah

gonna try coding alfheim now

cooll

yall think this looks good or nah

wow this sprite is so pretty ingame

[violet salmon]

That looks very nice in game than on my working screen actually

[loud spire]

ikr!

i love the green

[violet salmon]

Eco friendly empyrean (/j)

[loud spire]

LOL

alright now time to code it

it shouldn't be too hard

at least i'm pretty sure i know how to code everything here

[violet salmon]

Yeah, I can see it as merger of two exponentia with a built in scalae in one in a glance, so I think it shouldnt be that hard (idk though, I dont know any codes )

[loud spire]

lmao

i do wonder how scalae would interact with it

[violet salmon]

It gonna broke them ofc (/j)

Like they always do

[loud spire]

i mean scalae completely breaks asgard so

lmao

i will have scalae asgard fixed next update though

i have a lot of work for next update though

so it may be a few days

[violet salmon]

Ngl I wonder if vanaheim gonna have tie ins with Global code card for "seeing future" theme but idk how to make it interesting

[loud spire]

also i love how this silvery border deco accidentally became a staple of the realm empyreans lmao

i love it

[loud spire]

yeahh, perhaps

I'll think of something

praying that global isnt coded stupidly, but knowing cryptid it is

[violet salmon]

Well, kinda in theme isnt it the mod is intentionally broken which also have broken code (/j)

[loud spire]

LOL

honestly

i wonder if i could code a new color/gradient for ^chips and ^mult that isn't dark_edition

that way they can still be blue and red but also be animated like dark_edition is

[vapid sonnet]

You could, it's possible

[loud spire]

i'll consider it

[loud spire]

awesome

it works

two pair builds are peak with this

actually there seems to be a bit of a problem

OH nvm im just an idiot

oki

phew, glad that wasn't too bad to code

update pushed

i didnt forget about this dw

im just putting it off

will do it very soon

[violet salmon]

Another nidavellir wip

[violet salmon]

Nidavellir rendition for now, I heavily inspired by the theme of intergalactic furnace for this, though I can't really express it here but a symmetrical mechanical shapes

[pallid jetty]

Wait I can make ideas here? ..for jokers?

[bitter seal]

Is nidavellir the dwarf realm?

If the theme is seeing future, then why not see future cards to draw and do something about them

[loud spire]

oh wow this is awesome

[loud spire]

yeah that seems to be the main idea

I wouldn't know how to code it but I'll try

I may genuinely have to ask for help for the entire coding of this joker

I'm simply not talented enough for it yet

[past silo]

got that error

[loud spire]

make sure cryptid is up to date

get it with code -> download zip

instead of releases

[violet salmon]

Kinda bored doing realms, so I did a random, well, not really, its Fafnir (this is not even in the planned joker yet, I dont even think abt what this creature gonna tie in to in game mechanics, but I'm feeling drawing smth ), true that the bg might suit well for Muspelheim, but I have different inspiration and direction for it. But I'll glad if this gonna make into the mod

[loud spire]

I'll definitely figure something out for it, thanks!

this is peak

[loud spire]

I'm not too familiar with the mythology behind Fafnir, though I'll definitely be doing my research

[bitter seal]

i remember a mod that does something like that, i'll try to find it

[violet salmon]

Don't force yourself, it just personal project of mine though I can just repurpose it for other thing. I just think it related to some extent because poet of edda mention it along with other old norse instances

[loud spire]

dw, I'm not!

I do need more non-realm based ideas for Empyreans anyways to balance it out

having 9 empyreans based on norse realms and only a handful of unrelated ones is a bit strange

[violet salmon]

Ah yeah I can see that, ngl we need more probably for varieties, and I can prolly work on that, but after realms I'll prolly try to touch the one alr concepted out so it doesnt being left with dust

[bitter seal]

what about yggdrasil

[loud spire]

i definitely have a plan to do something grand for that

something really special

idk what yet though

[bitter seal]

make it hard to get, like having all realms to combine to yggdrasil

[violet salmon]

Gonna merge all the 9 realms into yggdrassil like exodia lmao

[bitter seal]

lmao exactly

[bitter seal]

found the mod, it's pokermon. specifically hoothoot (and it's evolution) grants foresight, revealing next cards to be drawn form deck. Also gives the chips of foreseen cards

[rapid flax]

what causing this joker doesn't increase value?

[past silo]

i got this error

[magic garden]

For some reason with this mod enabled the art for The Hermit Tarot card is replaced with Wheel of Fortune. Anyone else getting tnat bug?

[bitter seal]

Tbh, I thought astronomica was gonna be space themed

[violet salmon]

Thats also how I thought it'll be, thats why some of my empyrean resprite and newer design is "starry" so the name still have a resemblance within them. The term astronomica probably originally meant that the joker is "astronomically" broken

well, they still are broken thats for sure, but I think it's not as "powerful" as the older iteration of the mod is if I remember correctly

[loud spire]

I'm not actually sure, are you on the latest version?

[loud spire]

update cryptid

[loud spire]

i think that's because of some weird mod interaction, it doesn't happen to me

[loud spire]

i actually don't remember my initial inspiration for the name, but i do believe it was just that

i sorta made a decent portion of the mod without knowing the direction i wanted to take it lmao

(don't worry, i completely know what direction I'm gonna go with the mod now lmao)

[bitter seal]

Does that mean name change is coming? Or are we sticking with Astronomica

[past silo]

Oops! The game crashed:
Syntax error: functions/common_events.lua:4047: 'end' expected (to close 'function' at line 621) near '<eof>'

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1o-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~BETA-0527d-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.7.1
Platform: Windows

Stack Traceback

(3) C function 'function: 0x2bdacf38'
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 884
(6) global C function 'require'
(7) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x2bdaa5a8 {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x2bdaa5f8, gammacorrect:false, title:Balatro, externalstorage:false (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(10) global C function 'xpcall'
(11) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
got that error

[loud spire]

i probably won't change it

not fully sure though

[loud spire]

this doesn't really give me any information, how did this occur?

[past silo]

i bucketsinked a lot of mods

[loud spire]

probably not an issue with astronomica then

[loud spire]

Astronomica

art is not that much of a priority anymore (at least for now) so im changing the thread name

[spring galleon]

w mod

[loud spire]

ty!

[clear marten]

How do I actually get the new empyrean jokers?

[spring galleon]

You set your house on fire

[clear marten]

Real

See, my problem was lighting houses on fire, and not just specifically mine

[loud spire]

runic deck or apply anomaly to a judgement

[clear marten]

Ah see, the judgement was what I was missing, thank you

[true jewel]

that definitely aint rare

[loud spire]

my god you scrolled back very far

[tribal cave]

good lord yeah

[loud spire]

initial version vs final version of Radalingr

it's come so far

crazy that this was the third joker i coded

almost 2 months ago goddamn

[deep sonnet]

rare

🗣️

[true jewel]

I looked in on the forum and was up there

Also I have an idea on an Empyrean:
Xchips. but xchips gets multiplied by the values of every playing card in hand every play

[swift hedge]

Wow you scrolled comically far

Wow

[untold moat]

Question: Are there any plans to add this mod to card sleeves? I feel like a runic deck with a runic sleeve would be hilarious

[loud spire]

very soon yes

[untold moat]

[untold moat]

Guess I pushed some numbers a tad too far

[loud spire]

huh, that's weird

[violet salmon]

Ok, now I look again at Nidavellir rendition of mine I will probably gonna resprite it, especially the background part because I clearly short on thought when I'm making it and I am not really satisfied with how it turns out, the background feels too abstract to be discerned as a "furnace" I'll prolly depict a a more traditional appearance of blacksmithing env for it later

[loud spire]

ah, alrighty, don't overwork yourself!

[violet salmon]

Naa dw, I wont, I just finished my grad prep so I have plenty of time to spare

[loud spire]

I think Fafnir shouls be something econ related

maybe

not entirely sure on that

also happy pride month yall!

[violet salmon]

Oh yeah thats nice pick since considering what it is portrayed often in various media

[loud spire]

yeahh

I think i'm gonna just lean really heavily into norse mythology for this mod lmao

It's really allowed me to express a lot of creativity

[violet salmon]

Thats v nice, its also very new, ngl I kinda wonder if we could form some new mechanics specific to this mod in the future, but for now that just wishful thinking, (I mean anomaly sort of like it but I kinda think of what if its not just judgment you can do that to 🤔 )

[loud spire]

future interactions with anomaly on tarots is planned

in fact anomalous hermit removes the debt cap

i just dont talk about that one because its kinda boring

[violet salmon]

Thats fair

[loud spire]

i'm also considering effects for Yggdrasil

perhaps hyperop score?

or is that lazy

another idea would be something that thematically references the effects of each other realm joker

[violet salmon]

I dont really think hyperops score is gonna be lazy if how the ways we have to go to acquire it is really complicated (like, just you need to get like 9 empyreans which ofc lorewise construction part of the yggdrasil, which needs you to get 9 anomaly in a run which I also think need 1 more to merge them, and then you need the required joker slot before that which is easy in cryptid scenario, but still not straightforward)

[loud spire]

mhm

perhaps it increases the operator by 1 for every unique realm joker present

though asgard might just powerscale that since it has no functional limit

so idk

i might do smth with chips/mult operator instead but im apprehensive on that one

even the pwx isnt the only mod that modifies the chips/mult operator anymore

i still dont wanna swim too deep in that water

[violet salmon]

Ngl the easier thing is just merge all their ability in one joker so the benefit of having yggdrasil is just having all 9 realm joker ability without costing you 9 joker slot, it sounds lazy, but not too mainstream as just putting hyperops, but I can imagine the desc box gonna be as huge as playerrKiller in cryptposting lmao (/hj)

[loud spire]

yeahh

Ill do something cool with it

might not do anything with it until all the realm jokers are done

also, just a thought, what if empyrean jokers had sub-rarities?

maybe non-realm empyreans could have a higher chance of appearing from an anomalous judgement than the realm ones

[violet salmon]

ngl debuffing blind or blind boss is rarely brought out as joker ability, I can imagine it hell to do just because different set of boss abilities, just like exadversum, idk if exadversum still doing the reverse boss thing, but I think it is too powerful for exadversum to have it even if it is exotic level 🤔

[loud spire]

ive been focusing on other stuff for a bit

break from exadversum

its just so difficult and time consuming

[violet salmon]

yeah I sorta figured it out lmao

[violet salmon]

this is interesting as soft barrier for yggdrasil, but you kinda need to determine the powerlevel of them so they arent come out as weaker than exotic in the end

[loud spire]

yeah

i mean

radalingr is very noticably less powerful than asgard

all this might be a little complex for me though

[violet salmon]

thats true, but radalingr only one of them, and there's many more coming (/j)

[loud spire]

true

still coming up with an effect for nidavellir too

not sure i like basing it around enhancements

idk though

[violet salmon]

I would say you dont need to worry abt balancing in the first place, just interesting mechanics might be better to think to, since balancing is only numbers

[loud spire]

yeah

I want Vanaheim to have a more passive, but still overpowered effect (on par with asgard if i can)

so instead of massive scoring like asgard

something that helps you without giving loads of chips/mult

the foresight thing is quite good but

idk if it will be remotely good enough for an empyrean

[violet salmon]

The foresight thing could be just a passive to enable the name connection, you can just add stuff to it, ngl it could be just overpowered form of hiker, but Idrk really how to make it more interesting than just global code card with extra step

[loud spire]

yeah

[violet salmon]

Better prolly is to sort of store of last played hand and make it always appear next blind, but that just you combining Global and NPE Error lmao, idk tbh, am not really creative at these

[loud spire]

perhaps

[violet salmon]

Are you planning this mod with consideration of particle cards from ongoing dev in cryptid? might combine it to that if it is just to have some freedom

Though most of particle ideas havent realized yet too

[loud spire]

I'm not too familiar with the particle cards

But I'll accommodate for them when they're in dev

[violet salmon]

Yeah I only just saw it once or twice and just recently on track in dev so might aswell mention it while it is going

[loud spire]

mhm

honestly i have so much passion for this mod but my only worry is how slow i work

I've barely done anything in the past few weeks

some coding help would go a long way tbh i should ask for help

not until i get more ideas solidified though

[violet salmon]

take your time, it is passion project anyways, would it be one if you dont have passion to do it in the end

[loud spire]

like theoretically i can code MOST stuff myself

it just takes way too long

[loud spire]

yeah, fair!

[open violet]

woah

[loud spire]

huh

[true jewel]

that's why you aak for ✨help✨

[swift hedge]

aak

[true jewel]

aak

[rapid flax]

Why?

should be ^65,536