Entropy - A Very Chaotic Balatro Mod

[brazen timber]

found it

[sage flume]

how do i tell if a card is pointerable

im not sure if im typing decrement's id wrong or if it's unable to be pointered

[slender anvil]

you might be out of consumable slots

[sage flume]

it was in fact that but im still curious about the initial question

[bronze patio]

entropy doesnt really blacklist anything from pointer other than higher than exotic rarities tbh

so basically everything is pointerable

[gentle bluff]

what about pointer

[slender anvil]

you can pointer a pointer and save it for later

[steel horizon]

easily the best thing about pointer

love that

[gentle bluff]

What if you typed "grass" and the game laughed at you

[slender anvil]

grass is not entropious

[gentle bluff]

Tropius?

[slender anvil]

entropious

[karmic vale]

USE CODE PEAR

[raven helm]

Tropius aka bananasaurus

[karmic vale]

my entropy got too high or something? idk

[tawny lotus]

@bronze patio i dont think i should be doing this (or pinging you) but i cant play wthout my entropy
i redownloaded via the attractive green code button
same with cryptid

[bronze patio]

idk

[plush apex]

nested probably? check to see if your folders directly lead to the luas and stuff rather being a folder stuffed in a folder

[tawny lotus]

hmm

[tawny lotus]

i think it does

im sending the mods list

[plush apex]

how about the rest of the mods, check to see if they all lead to a similar set of files

[tawny lotus]

i tested it like an hour ago and when i removed entropy the game stopped crashing

[odd dust]

im not sure whats wrong but the moment the main menu would appear, the game just closes. like the loading screen is fine just the main menu. I have the newest version of cryptid, entropy, smods, and talisman.

[odd dust]

ok i fixed it by uninstalling entropy, disabling cryptids custom menu and reinstalling entropy

[chilly ingot]

does entropy make antimatter deck have randomized cards? (playing cards are also jokers, vouchers, and consumables)

it did, found it on hooks.lua, i edited it so it doesn't do that. Maybe add it as a config option?

[tawny lotus]

I'll try to classic way of removing all other mods and putting them back one by one

[bronze patio]

i mean i can but antimatter applies the effects of all decks and thats the effect of a deck

but also ccd doesnt do that so i prob should stop redefined from

[delicate mountain]

Does Scalae work on Dekatria or no? It doesn't seem like it does

[bronze patio]

it shouldnt

the operator is immutable

[delicate mountain]

Weird, I saw an image of e operators on it was it not always immutable?

wait I'm stupid nvm

I love Equilibrium Deck

[slender anvil]

2 of them

meht fo 2

[gentle bluff]

if you get both versions of the legendary they should kiss

chop chop. make it a geature

[kindred sphinx]

They should both instantly get freaky edition

[trim pewter]

I got very lucky that my main scoring joker got put in the leftmost slot for the final boss

[river hedge]

Is the folder supposed to be that big? (The number is still increasing, I got it from the pinned link)

[bronze patio]

theres a few music files in there so maybe

idk the exact size

though

[river hedge]

Ohhhh that makes sense

Just got a bit confused lol

[hexed plaza]

whats the link for the mod

nvm

[chilly ingot]

does crimson seals work while on hand?

baron mime builds gonna be op

[pure shuttle]

what if recursive joker was like
+20 mult
retrigger this joker 2 additional times, with each retrigger halving this joker's +mult

[lime granite]

this mod broke all scaling jokers

[slender anvil]

are you on newest version of smods and talisman?

can you demonstrate your issue?

[slender anvil]

.

[weak olive]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-catch-fetch-bored-not-having-it-gif-3538508

[glossy plume]

where's this addon's download?

[slender anvil]

https://discord.gg/beqqy4Bb7m

and this

https://github.com/lord-ruby/Entropy

[glossy plume]

any reason why entropy crashes when i try to use morefluff with it?

[bronze patio]

its because i havent done a new release of entropy yet

you should try getting it from code > download zip instead of releases

entropy i mean

[glossy plume]

alr

[upbeat magnet]

hi

[glossy plume]

hello kyle

[quick shoal]

Currently the skill tree mod Grim doesn't fully work with entropy because the only way to get to the skill tree is with a button usually placed between "Run Info" and "Options". The new entropy meter causes this button to no longer appear

I aint gonna claim that fixing this incompatiblity is easy, but it would be nice to have both working together.

[karmic vale]

someone actually using my mod

peak frfr

[quick shoal]

?

[karmic vale]

Partners Plus

[quick shoal]

ah gotcha

you said mom not mod

so I was like, wtf

also a lot of consumablepackblacklist crashes now lol

prolly cus of parakmi tho

[karmic vale]

I'm tired and can't type 😭

[quick shoal]

what fuckin joker combo made the entire window shake!?

I've angered the gods somehow

[tawny lotus]

I would've said pins but she already gave you everything you need i mean almost every download is in the pins

No ping

[tawny lotus]

That black hole looks off

Oh

You didn't update your entropy

do it you missed a lot

[quick shoal]

I literally just got it today lmao

[quick shoal]

I've barely found anything and it crashes every few seconds cus of parakmi

mmm orang

[slender anvil]

you got the newest RELEASE, which is a MONTH old, you're supposed to download from Code->Zip

[quick shoal]

I usually I just get the latest release to be safe, since its usually the most stable experience.

[slender anvil]

definitely not the case here

[glossy plume]

theres a recent bug ive noticed where entropy can crash on starting new runs

[slender anvil]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

JUST

JUST

please just post the crash log

[glossy plume]

ok let me see if i can find it

[slender anvil]

@bronze patio ?

is this file even useful

[bronze patio]

idk

i dont think so

[glossy plume]

damn

[azure plinth]

got this crash while dingling around

(used a star card)

[tawny lotus]

Yeah that happens to everyone and idk why

[slender anvil]

do you have Engulf (the mod)?

@bronze patio i think Engulf somehow became a dependency?

[bronze patio]

it's a bug but I thought I fixed it

[bronze patio]

try updating idk

[azure plinth]

ok sure

[glossy plume]

anyone else getting missing dependency errors for cryptid even with cryptid installed? nvm reinstalling cryptid fixed it

[gentle bluff]

How did you add custom deck art for the enhancement decks

[karmic vale]

Why are you asking here

[slender anvil]

cuz entropy added 4 new enhancements, and the question is about adding custom art to cryptid's enhancement deck through an addon

[gentle bluff]

Yeah it's not working for me

[odd python]

phantom shopper crashes when scaling past legendary because it doesnt have any rarity set for that

[bronze patio]

fixed 👍

[odd python]

(seemingly random?) crash when playing a hand at lib/hooks.lua on line 1337 when attempting to index field "center" (a nil value)

[odd python]

excuse me

[karmic vale]

Sorry I was hungry

[primal pulsar]

me with a suspiciously card shaped belly: huh i wonder where that went

[tawny lotus]

It tasted like a cracker...

[kindred sphinx]

yall eating hardtack

[slender anvil]

do you have any problem with that???? or should i eat your bones instead

[azure plinth]

bones are arguably more tasty than hardtack

[tiny sand]

bone card

[slender anvil]

boneprint

[azure plinth]

don’t tell me nothing about no bone

gr

[azure plinth]

you’re becoming vallkarri today
i didn’t do it yesterday because i was incredibly exhausted and passed out for 14 hours

[slender anvil]

arf arf or something

[azure plinth]

would you like to say that again

i did not hear you

[slender anvil]

arf arf

[azure plinth]

i heard it this time

[slender anvil]

cool

[quick shoal]

mmm, yes.

ok wtf is going on with this luck

[primal pulsar]

kid named entropy meter

[quick shoal]

ah okay, yea I was starting to think the game was just getting mad at me for not picking any of these lol

[torn wave]

"PICK OUR FUCKING ULTRA-RARES"

[slender anvil]

thats literally just what the Deck of Containment does

increases these spawn rates

and at 200+ disables Beyond's drawback

[azure plinth]

wtf it does?
kinda wish i knew that when being tormented by only beyond spawns but i was still looking for welds 😭

[slender anvil]

lmao

[midnight wraith]

yknow I feel the banish all joker part of the description should dissapear if you have 200 entropy just so ppl know it's safe to use idk it's too late atm for me to be responding

[slender anvil]

ruby finally added a tooltip today i think

[midnight wraith]

oh pog

[trim pewter]

getting this after round win

[bronze patio]

update cryptid

[trim pewter]

alr will try that

astronomica is causing a crash so it could be a bit before I get to test

oh wait I screwed up the cryptid install

wait wtf is happening

oh wrong steamodded version 💀

[bronze patio]

lol

[trim pewter]

that fixed it ty

[remote socket]

Omg I finally checked back and went to see if this worked with mod manager and it does now! I'm so hyped to play

[remote socket]

Hm, crash log
[SMODS entr "lib/utils.lua"]:4: attempt to call field 'get_highlighted_cards' [a nil value]

Happens when I play a hand

[bronze patio]

i was working on consumable forcetriggering stuff

but now its not backwards compatible anymore

idk a good way to fix it other than downgrading entropy if you can

[remote socket]

Hm, guess I gotta wait because frankly I'm too lazy to do any sort of modding not in the mod manager

[bronze patio]

kinda surprising that the manager doesnt let you downgrade versions tbh

but ive never used it

i will configure it to use release versions when 1.0.0 full is out

[remote socket]

It updated and now I can actually play a hand!

[native estuary]

Whats wrong with the sprites for these consumables

[native estuary]

@bronze patio

[bronze patio]

i think its fixed now

i resized the image wrong

[native estuary]

Nice

[slender anvil]

i love atlas mishaps

[timber niche]

ok i honestly really like how deck of containment works for being a broken deck

good way of giving players easier access to entropics and exotics while still making them work for it

[bronze patio]

im really proud of it tbh

[pure shuttle]

doc is probably my favorite deck

just because of like

its equillibrium but you actually have to work for it

[timber niche]

yea

[bronze patio]

im just built different

[pure shuttle]

can i have the blessing of good ideas

[bronze patio]

you must sell your soul

[timber niche]

alright let me just grab a pointer real quick

[pure shuttle]

my adhd ass just has like a fucking lottery of ideas and every now and then i pick one out and its usually SHIT

[pure shuttle]

btw ruby what game is accelerated backwards hopping from

[bronze patio]

portal

[main bloom]

The boss blind “eta” debuffs stone cards if the suit originally matched the debuffed suit from the boss

[timber niche]

also i need to say i appreciate being able to disable xekanos lol

[severe quartz]

Holy shit it’s peak.

[midnight wraith]

we're on ember stake soul has no sell value : (

[timber niche]

[somber turtle]

why it crash when Epytachyno

[timber niche]

can i have a link to the entropy discord

[bronze patio]

it should be pinned

[timber niche]

oh

[sturdy ferry]

where is it pinned

[bronze patio]

in this thread

[sturdy ferry]

ty

[tepid lodge]

Hello

[jagged remnant]

this mod is fucking crazy

[pure shuttle]

Wowz

[signal tree]

Wowie!

[acoustic kraken]

It only show's Entropy but I have more mods

[patent olive]

how is [~]$ sudo supposed to work?

i use the consumable and it causes a crash

[peak vigil]

1. update your mods!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. you select one poker hand to always score as a different poker hand for the rest of your run

[patent olive]

you dont need to have both hands selected?

[slender anvil]

no, how would you select 2 poker hands at once

you select a Pair, and type out Flush

[patent olive]

updated mods and it still crashed 🤷‍♂️

its aight

[slender anvil]

and then every time you play a Pair, it counts as a Flush instead

[slender anvil]

old runs may be incompatible depending on how recent the changes were

but sudo issues suggest your run will be incompatible with everything newest

[patent olive]

👍

[slender anvil]

and to be clear:the dependencies include Cryptid's dependencies, like Talisman, Smods and Lovely, so you gotta update those too

[vivid patrol]

Update

• smods
• Cryptid
• Talisman
  -# ⚠️ Make sure to remove the -main from the Talisman folder name. ⚠️

Delete old folders before updating

(hint: use these links since they're always on the latest version)

⚠️ ALSO ⚠️

If you aren't on Lovely Injector 0.8.0 grab it here

[patent olive]

sounds good, ty

[vivid rampart]

Is this already out?

[torn wave]

been out for a while

[peak vigil]

no wait until 2026

[slender anvil]

entropy tomorrow

[gleaming thistle]

entropy yesterday

[turbid canyon]

Oops! The game crashed:
main.lua:2294: stack overflow

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1o-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~BETA-0614a-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.7.1
Platform: Windows
Steamodded Mods:
1: Entropy by Ruby [ID: entr, Priority: 666, Version: 1.0.0~alpha, Uses Lovely]
2: Talisman by MathIsFun_, Mathguy24, jenwalter666, cg-223 [ID: Talisman, Version: 2.2.0c, Uses Lovely]
Break Infinity: omeganum
3: Handy by SleepyG11 [ID: Handy, Version: 1.5.0, Uses Lovely]
4: Card Sleeves by Larswijn [ID: CardSleeves, Priority: -10, Version: 1.7.8, Uses Lovely]
5: Cryptid by MathIsFun_, Cryptid and Balatro Discords [ID: Cryptid, Priority: 114, Version: 0.5.9, Uses Lovely]
Lovely Mods:

Stack Traceback

(3) global C function 'error'
(4) Lua field 'update' at file 'main.lua:2294'
Local variables:
dt = number: 0.0366159
success = boolean: false
msg = string: "stack overflow"
(5) Lua function '?' at file 'main.lua:934' (best guess)
(6) global C function 'xpcall'
(7) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '?' (defined at line 905 of chunk main.lua)
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])

[terse flower]

could someone maybe help me by letting me know where to download this mod?

[karmic vale]

pins

[terse flower]

Thanks that was stupid of me to ask lol

[waxen stirrup]

I genuinely thought there was no download link bc my scroll wheel doesn't work

[slender anvil]

😭

[tawny lotus]

You're stuck in a time capsule in it

[jagged remnant]

i have a suggestion for an entropic joker

have a jonkler that raises the operator of all other jonklers

• becomes x, x becomes ^, ^ becomes ^^, etc

[peak vigil]

astronomica is gonna have something like this actually

its kinda like what you described but i think it affects all scoring effects and not just jokers

[potent tinsel]

entropy enjoyers is this infinite yet?

[bronze patio]

theres too much to forward so im just going to screenshot what i said in the entropy server here

[simple terrace]

wqait cryptids being balanced?

[bronze patio]

experimental and dubiously official but basically

its not that harsh

its not going to be balanced per se

as in

it wont be not unbalanced

but a lot of things feel like they are kinda too far to be enjoyable to me

so im testing some things out to mitigate this

itll also be beneficial to the wider modding community somewhat

i reccomend you try it out at some point more opinions on it would be nice

[simple terrace]

maybe

[bronze patio]

https://github.com/SpectralPack/Cryptid/tree/balance-things

[gentle bluff]

I like the idea of balancing Cryptid, makes it more approachable to a wider audience

[celest adder]

i am new to this server and curious about this cryptid addon . how do i download it? 😬

[young rock]

In pins, scroll down to github link

[celest adder]

aight ty

[autumn lichen]

i used the consumable to forcetrigger another consumabl when anoither one is used (echo), made it trigger alt tab in the shop. it created a tag that used the default undiscovered tag for the collection. hovered over it, and it crashed the game.

was to be expected, tbh

[slender anvil]

peak

[odd python]

none tag when

[autumn lichen]

its gonna happen whenever the occurs

[signal tree]

True tho

[onyx shale]

How does one download and play this mod?

[midnight wraith]

https://github.com/lord-ruby/Entropy (or just use Balatro Mod Manager)

[onyx shale]

What mod versions/dependencies are required for this to work?

[karmic vale]

Just get latest off everything

[onyx shale]

Do I need a specific branch of cryptid or something?

Asking cause I’m crashing when using “beyond”

[snow dagger]

the oekrep is interesting

[slender anvil]

🌞

[late fossil]

Oh hey, we got a replacement for Almanac. :3

[bronze patio]

entropy 1.0.0 soon

just waiting on music and 1 more joker and probably some more bugfixes

[tawny lotus]

🌞

[timber niche]

🌞

[slender anvil]

🌞

[autumn lichen]

🌞

helping the economy

[bronze patio]

i fixed it

[late arrow]

I have this on game load, what do i do?

[mint mirage]

is it not pushed on Balatro Mod Index?

[kind moat]

I get this error when using the Joker 77+33

And this when playing freaky cards

[timber niche]

update smods

[sudden violet]

So, I don't know what's up with entropy, but whenever I go to score I crash. I remove entropy from my mods folder and it lets me play like normal. I'm not sure what the deal is

[native estuary]

yeah i have the same issue

[echo basin]

is there a server for entropy? wanted to ask how big of a number people got

at the moment i am getting e3,532#1##9957

[slender anvil]

yes

^

[hot sonnet]

got this error when opening the game. can anyone help me

[mint mirage]

Pact of decay leveled up high card instead of 4oak in my run

[young rock]

Did you update talisman?

[bronze patio]

was 4oak your most played

[mint mirage]

Yes

[mint mirage]

Bloopa

[bronze patio]

probably a crossmod issue

[warm swallow]

Love this mod so far, sadly it keeps crashing constantly in early anties. For example, playing this hand crashes the game 😄

It's the queen joker hm

[civic marlin]

can anyone decipher what this is? presumably a crossmod issue but idk

[low anchor]

anyone know whats going on with this? i cant seem to figure it out

happens very often, mostly when loading into the shop

[visual steppe]

same in here

we think its related to a bugged card

[low anchor]

only crashing when the shop is involved, so something isnt quite working in there for me atm

[gritty bobcat]

it might be a crossmod issue but entropy in my modpack after updating crashes upon selecting any card

[gritty bobcat]

got entropy working again

[gritty bobcat]

@bronze patio if its even a entropy mechanic (i might be wrong n stupid)
is there a chance for a config to just turn it off? i cant seem to find it in sets if it is..

[bronze patio]

turn what off

[gritty bobcat]

is it not a entropy feature? have i been misinformed

i got told the curses in endless mode are from entropy

curse of the blind. curse of the maze

[bronze patio]

they are from entropy but you didnt mention curses anywhere

previously

[gritty bobcat]

oh woops

[bronze patio]

so i didnt know what you were evn talking about

[gritty bobcat]

i skip over words

sorgy

anyways any way to toggle them off?

[bronze patio]

i can add a config at some point probably

but not rn

[gritty bobcat]

ah k

[brazen timber]

@bronze patio big problem

using this mod with the newest tailsman sets all hand chips and mult to 0 and only scores the first card's chips

btw oblivion is doing the same thing i think

actually it isnt

[bronze patio]

seems to work fine for me

[brazen timber]

weird

[signal tree]

I only need him

he never self destructs

[signal tree]

and for the record, yes all his values was at 0

[rugged finch]

Does this mod play nice with base cryptid?

[primal pulsar]

yeah

it has crossmod content for it

[tawny lotus]

Yes

Very

[peak vigil]

it was initially built with cryptid as a dependency actually

now that content is moved to cross-mod

[slender anvil]

did you know that entropy

[floral osprey]

did you know that entropy

[midnight wraith]

no i didn'

[river hedge]

t

[slender anvil]

did you know that entropy

[signal tree]

did you know that 🌞

🌞

[slender anvil]

🌞

[autumn vessel]

Suggestion: Condemned Cassandra should mention its joker debuff doesn't change with each score or lasts until the end of the blind

[arctic rivet]

m

[slender anvil]

evil

[mint mirage]

A problem has been detected and Balatro has been stopped:
wrapped_main:2224: [SMODS entr "items/jokers/misc_jokers.lua"]:1483: attempt to index field 'first_tag' (a nil value)

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1o-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~BETA-1016c-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.8.0
Platform: Windows
Steamodded Mods:
1: Entropy by Ruby, The Entropy Discord [ID: entr, Priority: 666, Version: 1.0.0b, Uses Lovely]
2: More Fluff by notmario, CHECK CREDITS IN MOD TAB [ID: MoreFluff, Version: 1.6.0, Uses Lovely]
3: Card Sleeves by Larswijn [ID: CardSleeves, Priority: -10, Version: 1.8.0, Uses Lovely]
4: TOGA's Stuff by TheOneGoofAli [ID: TOGAPack, Priority: 2, Version: 1.11.0, Uses Lovely]
5: Cryptid by MathIsFun_, Cryptid and Balatro Discords [ID: Cryptid, Priority: 114, Version: 0.5.12a, Uses Lovely]
6: Revo's Vault by CodeRevo [ID: RevosVault, Version: 4.8.0~main, Uses Lovely]
7: Galdur by Eremel_ [ID: galdur, Priority: -10000, Version: 1.2.1d, Uses Lovely]
8: Talisman by MathIsFun_, Mathguy24, jenwalter666, cg-223, lord.ruby [ID: Talisman, Version: 2.5, Uses Lovely]
Break Infinity: omeganum
9: Too Many Jokers by cg [ID: toomanyjokers, Priority: -1000, Version: 4.7.1, Uses Lovely]
10: JokerDisplay by nh6574 [ID: JokerDisplay, Priority: -1000000000, Version: 1.8.8.2]
Lovely Mods:
1: inmodman

Stack Traceback

(3) global C function 'error'
(4) Lua upvalue 'upd_ref' at file 'wrapped_main:2224'
Local variables:
dt = number: 0.0165181
success = boolean: false
msg = string: "[SMODS entr "items/jokers/misc_jokers.lua"]:1483: attempt to index field 'first_tag' (a nil value)"
(5) Lua field 'update' at file 'steamodded.lua:82' (from mod with id toomanyjokers)
Local variables:
dt = number: 0.0165181
(6) Lua function '?' at file 'wrapped_main:945' (best guess)
(7) global C function 'xpcall'
(8) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)

Local variables:
func = Lua function '?' (defined at line 916 of chunk wrapped_main)
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])

[mint mirage]

Does entropy need cryptid or no?

[torn wave]

needs cryptLIB

the library mod

cryptID has crossmod

[native elbow]

got this crash
note:
using cryptid as well

[humble vigil]

(sorry if im doing thiss wrong, first time posting a crash report)
happens everytime after a hand scores, winning or not. ive tried troubleshooting by disabling all but the required mods. im really bad at coding stuff and was wondering if anyone can decipher this

i reinstalled all of the files to the newest versions too, and validated the balatro files

[humble vigil]

ok upon rereading the thing i think i see the problem lol

nvm getting the correct version of steam modded didnt do it

[mint mirage]

Idiot

[random stone]

local copy_tableref = copy_table function copy_table(tbl, iter, ...) iter = iter or 100 if iter > 0 then return copy_tableref(tbl, iter - 1, ...) end end

[bronze patio]

Entropy - A Very Chaotic Balatro Mod

[karmic vale]

ts so entropius

[mellow sigil]

what is that?

[slender anvil]

its a Missing Dependency: Spectrallib

which means the mod Entropy Depends on a mod called Spectrallib in order to work, and that mod is Missing from your mods folder

[unique spire]

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[odd python]

i remember your entropies

[quasi crater]

I cant get entropy working with cryptid, I tried looking for the demicolon branch but its no longer there on the github

[karmic vale]

youre on an ancient version

[vivid patrol]

Amulet is a fork of Talisman that fixes many of the issues within Talisman such as the attempt to compare number with table crash and your score becoming nan or -naneinf.

Download it here.
Be sure to replace Talisman when installing Amulet