#🦑│lore-zone

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timber flint
green ridge
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I want to lore dump so hard but have promised to refrain, they have an awesome story and I can't wait to expierence it

glossy oar
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Really looking forward to a good story!

shadow granite
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So... About that boss in the last video.. I just wanted to look if there is something behind the name "Hands" ...
I don't really know much about pirates, only from some games/movies..
But i googled it and found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Hands

"Israel Hands, also known as Basilica Hands,[1] was an 18th-century pirate best known for being second in command to Edward Teach (c. 1680 – 22 November 1718), better known as Blackbeard."

Some of you surely knew immediately but it's nice to add reality to CrossWind lore I guess 😁

Israel Hands

Israel Hands, also known as Basilica Hands, was an 18th-century pirate best known for being second in command to Edward Teach (c. 1680 – 22 November 1718), better known as Blackbeard. His name serves as the basis for the name of the villainous sidekick in Robert Louis Stevenson's 1883 novel Treasure Island.

green ridge
green ridge
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btw, the website does have a story blurb, theorize to your hearts content!

The year is 17XX.

You are a freelance captain betrayed and stranded after a job gone wrong.

What starts as a grounded story of survival and revenge will put you in the middle of a conflict between empires, pirate clans and mysterious dark powers looming on the horizon.

Crosswind is brimming with the Age of Piracy allure!

visual island
steel pasture
meager fractal
green ridge
unreal cape
nimble egret
manic shore
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That is so cool ship is thare footage from inside ?

lunar otter
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Around 300 years under the water

manic shore
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I mean can u enter the inside ?

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Aa lol nice

queen parcel
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It all started with John Crosswind...

queen parcel
manic shore
exotic violet
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i need to know everything

uneven finch
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Other than the ballad of Captain Poultry?

green ridge
unique glen
green ridge
sonic bough
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Would be interesting to see an option to privateer vs pirate. I would not do it because I am not a landlubber but still would be cool

nimble lagoon
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I think that will depend on what is available in terms of pvp to pve naval battles. If theres npc trade routes then aye that would be applicable, but also other player trade ships? Guild to guild privateering?

Another thing to consider, privateers and pirates are the sides of the same coin. The Spanish called english privateers 'pirates' and vice versa. I suppose it depends on which point of view yours is

north steeple
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Did someone say lore usopp_pepe

fallen cradle
rich sinew
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interesting, is it set in irl or fantasy world

zealous aurora
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Given that there’s like, you know, skeletons and slimy swamp monsters

rich sinew
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nah those were irl tooo

zealous aurora
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Oh facts

rich sinew
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any photos of the map

zealous aurora
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It’s on their website if you go to the google drive they have on there

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Idk if it’s a tentative thing or not but yeah

rich sinew
zealous aurora
rich sinew
green ridge
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That is not the in-game map as of this time

rich sinew
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well I wouldn't know, this was from the drive located from the website

prisma depot
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Well, I think given its a small team the plan is to start off with a squared area of that and then expand from there with subsequent updates

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so I'd say its good

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obviously with player base building and ownership of areas

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you'd need a sizable area to accommodate all of that

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if its Server based similar to Ark or Conan, most survivals

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or Local Host

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I personally like server based survivals because you can sort of come across more variety than in locally hosted ones where the multiplayer is limited to who you invite or expose a connection to

zealous aurora
# green ridge That is not the in-game map as of this time

yeah they said its mostly procedural right? I just assumed maybe this would be some over-arching map like the overland map they are talking about in Dune Awakening. Where like this is how youd get to different servers like to Tortuga or something

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idk thats my theory but maybe its just a random image they through in there lol

tired token
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the map sketch seems like the Caribbean region and surface of northern coast parts of south america(?), which should be their main zone for now, possibly expanding to other seas and continents

vestal basin
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this dude geographies

tired token
eternal compass
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Krakens?

dry seal
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MEGALODON

amber bone
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Megalodon + kraken, is it Megen? Or is it Krakodon?

scarlet ferry
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Look up what a lusca is, i have a feeling you guys are gonna love it

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Actually, im gonna spare you some time

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queen parcel
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If they ever add this and dont name it Megen I'll riot

quaint vigil
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Sharktopus

grim compass
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Add chickens.

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(as pets)

queen parcel
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Who needs chickens when we got dodo

pine steppe
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Falcore clearly needs chickens (and owls, owls are important)

pallid ivy
grim compass
nimble lagoon
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They do not. They turn their whole head. Big radar dish birbs

zealous aurora
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There ought to be a Larry Easter egg in this game

lunar arch
fallow canyon
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@lunar arch definitely will be parrots in the game 🙂

lunar arch
signal portal
grim compass
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Actually, its a lie generated by hollywood that Pirates had Parrots as pets. They were more likely to eat a parrot than keep it on board. Chickens however, they were egg producing meals on legs. And when they stopped producing eggs, chicken dinner!

Point is, there were more chickens in Golden Age of Piracy than parrots.

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Plus, there's something both inspiring and a bit extraordinary in an empowering way about a badass pirate with a peg leg, a hook, a big long beard, and a scabby but surprisingly majestic-looking chicken on his shoulder.

green ridge
grim compass
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It was part of their trade back in the Golden Age, they would often ship exotic animals or steal them from trade vessels. They would sometimes keep them as pets. But they'd be in a cage in the Captains Cabin, and would often be poorly looked after.

green ridge
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Again yes true for the most part however due to how very little we have on what would happen to them but how much we have on how a crew treated each other it is theorized and argued that captains would keep the pets locked away just long enough for their crew to leave, after that it sorta became a "Your pet your problem" thing where the only thing they cared about was that you still did your job, if an emotional support bird helped you do it the captain couldn't have cared less

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All that being said however not sure we're sticking close to realism in this one, those zombies still be there and still be dope

grim compass
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IT was actually commonly known that Zombies used to sit on Pirates shoulders in the Golden Age.

green ridge
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lmfao

nimble lagoon
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True! Pirates did eat the exotic birds more often than not, because the birds hadnt seen humans they were more trusting than other animals and openly approached the sailors, making catching them very easy (I dont have the source for this to hand I read about it years ago)

astral stratus
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I hope to have a lizard pet

coral cove
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To my understanding, they did have parrots/exotics somewhat often because they sold for a pretty penny back home. So they were just for short term, not really onboard pets. Ofc this also depends on how well the ship was doing/length of the voyage

native lily
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As long as I can have a ship’s cat I’m happy

fallow canyon
queen parcel
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Dodo unethical farm

lunar arch
astral igloo
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What about Capuchin monkeys??!

grim compass
green ridge
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That's adorable

pliant frigate
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the captain falcore is in the crosswind server

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i am suprised

grim compass
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Pirate game. Its not that surprising 😄

green ridge
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I was gonna say lmao

grim compass
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If I can board someone, steal their stuff. I play it, i'm a simple man

green ridge
pliant frigate
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yea don't get ram stratted in sot

green ridge
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Hang on let's move this to general to not clog up lore

grim compass
queen parcel
nimble lagoon
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Oh Damb Phuzzy is in here? Love that guy

pliant frigate
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It’s falcore not phuzzy

native lily
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Nope, Phuzzy's here too

grim compass
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Me, @sly linden , and HitboTC are the cringe Pirate Council. We shall council your pirates, and you shall cringe all the way

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Oh wait, this is the lore channel. I mean, relevant. But still.

eternal compass
queen parcel
astral island
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It's nice to see some of the OG Sea of Thieves creators here.

carmine whale
cerulean tiger
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eternal compass
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@fallow canyon

green ridge
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I got it

eternal compass
eternal compass
green ridge
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Yeah I know, need Bambino to help us set it up but it's in dicussion

eternal compass
green ridge
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Nah not Scam6, more likely to set up a reaction role system so you just press a button confirming you read rules and get acsess that way

eternal compass
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But a leveling bot would work

eternal compass
green ridge
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Yeah just not as cleanly

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Either way we got it covered

eternal compass
grim compass
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According to obscure pirate lore, parrots were once used as living compasses. If a parrot spun three times counterclockwise on a barrel, it meant the ship was off course. If it squawked in French, the crew prepared for a mermaid ambush.

unique glen
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If my parrot squawked in french, I'd get a new parrot

nimble lagoon
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French mentioned

unreal nexus
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unreal nexus
manic canyon
willow grove
green ridge
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ripe coral
clear notch
upbeat valve
hushed hawk
sullen crater
fallen cradle
merry sequoia
nimble lagoon
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green ridge
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This isn't lore please stop

light dove
green ridge
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It's supposed to be now that we can talk about it

humble magnet
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The great devistating Blue Dodo of the Deep rises out of the depths of the ocean to wreek havoc upon the seas....

low blade
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Can't wait to dive into the lore... Not gonna scroll up to avoid spoilers. Quick Question never hurt though. Is the lore gonna be strictly fantasy or will their be historical tie ins? 17XX's was a crazy time period and their is a ton to jump off of.

exotic violet
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anyone know any
lore on possible
sea
monsters

low blade
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There's got to be a Kraken, I hope

eternal compass
inner gust
low blade
viscid coral
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Does the game have its own lore? Or is it set in our timeline 17XX ish?

pure slate
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Well from what i've seen of Mr Hands, I'm looking forward to seeing the lore behind it and Mr Teach

unique glen
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Which means you will encounter characters names after real life counterparts

humble magnet
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The story of the Dodo

Dodos are the bane of everyone's existence in the game, it can not be denied. But after looking and reading some things on feedback and in media sharing I think I have figured out what the dodos actually are. Please bear with me as I explain.

It was mentioned that dodos officially went extinct around 1662 but this game takes place in the 1700s so therefore they obviously should not be around at this time.

Dodos were not indigenous to the Americas but yet here they are in the Caribbean wreaking havoc to all pirates everywhere.

There is a picture of a dodo on a roof of someone's base but the dodo traditionally did not have the ability to fly.

All of this evidence has brought me to one, and quite honestly the only true, solution about the dodo....

They are Time Lords.

They show up in a century that they shouldn't be in due to becoming extinct over a century before. Time Travel
They arrive in the Americas even though they are not indigenous to them. Translocation
They have the ability to show up on roofs even though they do not have the capability of flight. Looking down upon those lesser than them.
They aggressive dodos are the blue ones. TARDIS

Please accept my findings as fact as they are incontestable.

bleak comet
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Have you cut one open to see if it's bigger on the inside?

humble magnet
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excellent suggestion! I will have to try to find a way to do this.

viscid coral
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i love lore now im more excited to play

hollow finch
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do we know the lore of the release date? hahahaha

unique glen
green ridge
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Here's a really funny actual lore bit I just learned. Galen's last name is Skeleton
His full title is -Doctor Galen Skeleton

fierce grove
humble magnet
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I'm going to be that guy.... His last name is actually spelled Skelton

green ridge
proven monolith
low blade
green ridge
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Who doesn't like treasure?

I know you all want to play Crosswind, and as it just so happens, I've got an extra key I'd like to give away.

But just posting it? That’s not the swashbuckler’s way! So why not host a little treasure hunt?

All the clues you need are hidden across these six logs. The first to piece them all together will uncover a fully redeemable Crosswind key!

Good luck and happy hunting!

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green ridge
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The code has been redeemed, congrats @misty echo and @polar condor

eternal compass
old karma
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Dang

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I just found out about this game

proven monolith
old karma
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Sucks I found out too late can’t get access

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I saw some 450k people waiting for access right now 😂

proven monolith
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@green ridge

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ty ty 🥹 🍻

lucid robin
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I just got access, after applying a week ago. Keep trying! It’s worth it! So far I love this game! The game we have needed for decades! 🏴‍☠️

mighty current
proven monolith
lucid robin
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THANKS MATES! Love ye family 🏴‍☠️

limpid vault
nimble lagoon
limpid vault
unreal estuary
limpid vault
unreal estuary
limpid vault
lucid robin
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Okay. Jazzy, you are pretty 🥹 And this firstborn. I need more information lol. This is entrance into the Alpha fro the best Pirate game of all time we are talking about here after all 🤣

limpid vault
lucid robin
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Facts. So on Jazzy, Jazzy and Jon sittin in a tree 🌳 lol. We can talk hands down haha. 🥹

As for shots on the first born. Waiting on a description lol jk jk.

I don’t even think they have keys per se. I just clicked their email and got access into the game

vocal dome
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Did not mean to send that here sorry

lucid robin
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lol all good

unreal estuary
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I have a fiance sorry homie ^^ ❤️ I'll catch you in game though if you wanna join my crew

limpid vault
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The key part hahaha

lucid robin
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Ye can join me crew for sure!! 🥹🥹 but that’s okay. Hope y’all are happy 🙏🏽

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And yeah. This is the future lol

snow glacier
green ridge
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I'm gonna kindly ask that y'all move this conversation to somewhere like #🎭│offtopic please

lucid robin
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We did lol

green ridge
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Thank you

lucid robin
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Welcome 🙂

lucid robin
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So, on Crosswinds. The Alpha is pretty great so far. It has a crashed a few times but it’s to be expected so early on. The creation is so fun and addicting even haha. The battle/duel system is a blast!! Making weapons, upgrades, etc is a lot of fun!

The exploration, sailing and adventure aspects is amazing!! Can’t wait for the full game!

nimble lagoon
lucid robin
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Lmfao

abstract drum
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fire sant

lucid robin
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I still can’t find where we get this Navigator fella?

abstract drum
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No idea what i wanted there

willow grove
lucid robin
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Not even after the first one? The Bos’n? I can’t even beat that dude lol. I have no hope of getting to Tortuga by Monday 😭😭😭😭 Someone help me haha

final kayak
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Just got my key today, but been having fun.

lucid robin
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Oops I made a boo boo 👻🤣

clear violet
clear violet
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Tired🤏

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eternal compass
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@green ridge

eternal compass
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@fallow canyon

fallow canyon
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we got it

eternal compass
fallow canyon
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@eternal compassand thanks 😉

eternal compass
night pond
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how are you guys already playing the game??

pliant frigate
night pond
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ohhhhhhhhh

robust junco
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So what is the lore of the game?

green ridge
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You were transporting cursed cargo that Hands stole from you and in your attempt to get it back cursed yourself and must now seek a way to break it before it claims your very soul

robust junco
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Cool , thanks wasn’t sure if in game we would collect more lore related info or quests.

green ridge
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We do, just thought I'd give the basics so people don't get too spoiled but understand the story

long juniper
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very specific question: will there be a Klabautermann in the game?

green ridge
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Interesting question lol. As of the alpha there wasn't really mystical creatures apart from a single boss but we do have zombies, drowned and even dodo birds so whose to say

formal moss
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Is there Lore here I am missing? ha

green ridge
short elbow
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I fervently desire hints of any sea beast lore

plush crypt
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Will there be the possibility to have skins for boats and players to found "Royal Navy" with the objective to do the same as the pirates but under a fictionnal crown ?

crystal current
green ridge
formal moss
lucid robin
obtuse flax
last pollen
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<@&1354821664998817822> cleanup in aisle 3 please.

nimble lagoon
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Ta

green ridge
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Thank you

last pollen
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Quick and efficient as always. 😄

last pollen
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Pirate lore stuff. The most common coin in the New World was the Spanish thaler, in Spanish called dollar (whcih is why the new counrtry USA also called its currency dollar). A Spaniosh thaler was worth 8 real, and thus marked with 8s on both sides, which is why it was called a "piece of eight".

nimble lagoon
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Bro is flexing his buried treasure. Quick, someone plunder yon scallywag!

last pollen
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I wanr you - I have sabres.

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It was also common to clip the coin into halves, fourths and eights (which was also common with early US currency) called bits. 1/8 was a bit, 1/4 two bits and 1/2 four bits.

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Pubs and saloons in colonial America, both before and after the revolution, drinks were often priced in bits - but American bits after the revolution was half a quarter, or 12,5 cents. Pubs and saloons of the better kind were "two bit saloons" where a drink cost a quarter, while cheaper places were "one-bit salooms" where you got two drinks for a quarter.

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Since there was a general lack of smaller coins, usually you paid with a quarter and got either 2 our 4 drinks. You could, if you had one, pay with a dime, which was considered a "short bit" and a bit of a miser thing to do.

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Seedier places in the frontier or countryside could be "half-bit saloons".

dim mesa
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They should add something like Devil Fruits

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Peak

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If they do

last pollen
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New Älvsborg, Swedish coastal fortress protecting the harbour of Göteborg.

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An example of a 19th century star fort in naval settings.

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In July 1719, the fortress was attacked by the legendary Danish-Norwegian admiral Peder Tordenskjöld with 21 ships, carrying 450 cannons.

green ridge
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I don't remember doing that quest in the alpha

last pollen
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Just thought it could be interesting info, I'm sure we're going to see people building forts and perhaps early access will let us attack forts?

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The naval siege lasted 3 days, with the Dano-Norwegians landing batteries on islands to subject the fort to more fire, and using mortar boats firing from protection of islands to attack the fort. It was not until land-based guns were moved to Hisingen island to flank the Dnano-Norwegian ships with heated shoit that the Dano-Norwegian fleet was driven off.

smoky harness
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And to the topic for the game - I really hope there will be fortresses that we need to attack. It could be so interesting.

cunning plover
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Naval fights can be quick, but a siege, on land or at sea, evidently. Will never be quick

fresh swift
last pollen
# smoky harness I always find it VERY interesting that the fight lasted DAYS. I believed naval f...

Yeah as @cunning plover say, sieges were never quick. Naval forts were designed to take silly amounts of punishments. The basic idea was to be a roadblock that lasted so long that naval reinforcements could arrive.

If you want to read up on a naval siege, check the British siege of Cartagena in 1741 - it lasted for two months, with 196 ships with 2160 guns and 10 000 soldiers (and 4000 volunteers from Virginia and 1000 Jamaican slaves used as pioneers/labourers for the siege works). In the end, the Spaniards under Blas de Lezo were victorious.

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The San Felipe fortress that stopped the British is still in place today in Colombia.

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faint flame
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Sieges historically involved starving out the defenders most of the time, ideally you could get over the walls to make it quicker, but that was not always possible so you just sorta settle in surrounding the place & wait.
II will admit though that I know less about naval sieges except when they were part of blockades to ensure no resupplies coming from the ocean.

cosmic yacht
last pollen
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1854, a Franco-British fleet destroyed the (only partially finished) Russian fortress at Bomarsund on the Åland islands. The ability to use steam engines to place ships exactly where you wanted them, independent of winds and current meant that the Franco-British fleet could concentrate fire on parts of the fortress and that the fortress did not have the firepower aimed at that specific direction to respond effectively.

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Despite reports of the local granite which had been cut into slabs to "armour" the outer walls of the fortress being hard enough that lighter round shot from the Franco-British fleet simply "pinged off".

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With explosive shells, the old brick, stone and mortar forts became obselete and walls and redoubts were istead constructed out of small bunkers/cannon emplacements covered by enormous amounts of earth.

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The western walls of Sveaborg/Suomenlina outside Helsinki in Finland is a good example of this. The eastern part is still the olf 18th century type of stone star fort, the western part, which was rebuilt after the French and British destroyed it during the Crimean War. int eh attack on the fortress in 1855.

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Example (from the ruins) of the granite "armour" of Bomarsund.

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cosmic yacht
last pollen
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The dvelopment of naval tactics, of the "all gun, all war" ship in the 17th century, the decline of using armed merchant vessels, their resurgence for a short while during the US Civil War, how tactics and shipbuilding changed during the long 19th century, with steam, shell guns, rifled guns, armour, ramming bows and so on.

cosmic yacht
last pollen
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One needs to remember that casting iron without hidden imperfections was hard in the pre-industrial era. Bronze was easier, but also more expensive. Sweden produced both and was in the era of the game known for its quality guns that "never bursted" to the extent that Swedish-made iron cannons was one of the first thigns looted if found on captured ships by pirates.

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So heavy guns that could take on forts were rare and espensive, and hard to move unless mounted on a ship.

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Several of the guns on Blackbeard's Queen Anne's Revenge that have been salvaged have been found to be marked from Swedish foundries,

cosmic yacht
last pollen
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Yeah, casting steel without hidden imperfections was the holy grail in industrial know-how in the mid-19th century

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Interestingly, the Prussians prodiced 600 000 barrels for ther M1842 needle rifle between 1842 and 1866. Around that time they learned to cast steel barrels and made 900 000 between 1866 and 1870. Quite the difference in production!

near magnet
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The Great Siege of Malta must have been epic

last pollen
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It was. 😄

cunning plover
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The Dutch were really good shipwrights at the time

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And cannon makers as well

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The Dutch and the Swedes were some of the best artillery manufacturers of the era

pseudo pendant
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I'm going to be stuck in this thread for all eternity just absorbing the nautical lore 👀

I still remember my dad specifically planning a visit to a museum when I was a kid just so that I could see a nautical exhibit which included some old cannons hauled up from a shipwreck. Also had a chance to go visit The Hawaiian Chieftain, sister ship to The Lady Washington of Pirates of the Caribbean fame. It's really something else to see a tall ship in person.

cosmic yacht
pseudo pendant
# cosmic yacht that's awesome

I'm still blown away all these years later that I got to go aboard - the crew was incredibly nice towards my teengoth self, and had demonstrations on how different sailor's knots worked, general ship lore, and a general overview of how ships were classed in the days of wooden ones. I'm almost 38 and it's still one of the best days of my life.

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So naturally, I'm delighted getting to be among other people who love these things as much as I do

cosmic yacht
pseudo pendant
# cosmic yacht that's a damn good museum

Well, it was the ship and crew doing the demonstration, the museum was a bit further away , but both were amazing and I'm very, very lucky. My family was poor, so, something like this took a lot of planning, but dad was determined.

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I know he would have loved lurking here and enjoying the demo too

last pollen
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I've been to the Vasa museum several times, and I plan a visit to the Danish screw frigate Jylland this Summer.

pseudo pendant
cosmic yacht
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The only other ship like this preserved to my knowledge is the SS Great Britain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Great_Britain

SS Great Britain

SS Great Britain is a museum ship and former passenger steamship that was advanced for her time. The largest passenger ship in the world from 1845 to 1853, she was designed by Isambard Kingdom Brunel (1806–1859), for the Great Western Steamship Company's transatlantic service between Bristol and New York City. While other ships had previously ...

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Photo from my last visit to the Vasa museum.

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green ridge
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@chilly bridge
Ok so, what we have so far is fairly simple but shows promise, after sailing some cursed treasure of some kind at the employ of the English Blackbeard sacks us and takes for himself to make a profit.

After tracking it down to being in the hands of Israel Hands we attempt to retrieve it only to accidentally pass down the curse to ourselves in the process, while we're at hand's boss arena we free some prisoners who tell us best chance to find a way to break it is to sail to Tortuga and find someone who knows more about the cursed artifacts than we do.

And thus begins the ultimate treasure hunt to prevent you from turning into a nightmareish boss fight ourselves

last pollen
green ridge
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green ridge
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Plus we're a turncoat, that means we get insider info

south shoal
green ridge
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I mean for lore accuracy in our case we had something that they believed needs to be in a museum lol

south shoal
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I saw in the trailery thing we have spanish conquestador "drowned" which I'm quite curious about.

green ridge
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Ok so we have no official word on it however imma give you the rundown on the current lore theory, just let me get to my PC to type it out

green ridge
# south shoal I saw in the trailery thing we have spanish conquestador "drowned" which I'm qui...

So, none of the following is official or supported by anything other than a few hints we found during the alpha however, we know there are faction tokens in the demo aka BlackBeards insignia's, this means factions will likely take part in the restroation of Tortuga after we saw it sacked by the dead in the trailer we got post the previous alpha ending.
The theory is that the Spanish were doing their whole expanding and digging into religion thing and found some cursed thing like we did only they ended up on the wrong side of the curse.
This is complete further speculation but fun nonetheless:
What I imagine is going to happen is in Tortuga we get 3 types of people to deal with each focusing on a different gameplay element.

Spanish: Would like us to visit ancient ruins and put their dead to rest causing us to explore even more POI's
English: Would like us to seek out the ships on the sea and get the insignia's to return to them as proof of kill forcing you to look at ship combat
Pirates: Would like us to hand over the treasures and rare items we find making us look into going on treasure hunts and diving into lost stories

There may be more than this but this is my guess as to how the story of re-building Tortuga will go, making you question who you'll focus on and how you'll get it done.

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this could lean into the aspect of actually checking the flags that other ships are flying as well because if you hit a british ship by accident it would cause them to be hostile.

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I fully intend on makingg a British Pirate or at best a Privateer,

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Be interested in seeing some fighting between different enemy factions for example smugglers and privateers pirate hunters and pirates obviously.

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The amount of smoke when firing a live round is fascinatng.

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As is how the round just goes straight through. Long heavy guns have terrifying firepower.

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# nimble lagoon Yoooo thats awsome!

It demonstrates pretty clearly why armed merchant vessels were on their way out as combat ships in the late 17th century. They were simply not built heavily enough to take the damage of heavy guns placed on warships.

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Fun historical trivia: Until the D-Day landings on June 6, 1944, the largest amphibious assault in history was the British attack on Cartagena de Indias during the War of Jenkins' Ear. On March 13 1741, Admiral Edward Vernon led a massive force of around 180–186 ships (including 29 ships of the line) and 27,000–30,000 troops against the Spanish stronghold. The result? A decisive Spanish victory under Blas de Lezo. The British suffered catastrophic losses (up to 18,000 dead, mostly from disease, and dozens of ships lost) and withdrew in humiliating defeat.

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Depends a lot on what you mean by "landing". The Ottomans brought about 80 000 men ashore for the siege of Rhodes, but that was not in a single landing.

craggy summit
# last pollen Depends a lot on what you mean by "landing". The Ottomans brought about 80 000 m...

Very good point on Rhodes. The Ottomans did land a massive force, but it turned into a months-long siege rather than a single large-scale beach assault like D-Day or Cartagena. Cartagena de Indias is still widely regarded as the biggest true amphibious assault (by this I mean direct opposed landing + fleet support for quick capture) before Normandy (180 ships and 27–30k troops ) dwarf most earlier combined ops in that specific sense.

Both are epic in their own way, though!

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And I think there were about 12000 troops landed, the rest were sailors still aboard the ships.

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Yep, big difference is that Vernon's force arrived ready for an immediate, massive combined naval-land assault: the fleet showed up March 13, bombarded outer forts right away, and executed major opposed landings aiming for quick capture of key positions (pretty much like d-day). Rhodes, on the other hand, saw the Ottoman fleet arrive in late June for blockade first, with the main army and full landings building up gradually over weeks (Suleiman only arriving end of July), making it more of a phased invasion that settled into a long siege from the start

Both lasted months due to tough defenses, but Cartagena's setup (with that huge fleet enabling a concentrated 'shock' amphibious effort from day one) still gets cited as the biggest of its kind before D-Day.

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I think Bomarssund was larger though.

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32 000 in total, about 17 000 landed.

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But the whole discussion on size is pretty academimc, IMHO. None of the other landings we have discussions were made under fire, which d-day was. Pre-modern armies would just move and land a bit further away if they foudn opposition on the naval site, as sailng was always quicker than marching.

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# winged robin Tell that Cesar invading Britain

Huh? That is a percet example of what I say. Caesar sailed over, met a host on shore, sailed away to land where only a few cavalry units managed to keep pace and landed, the Britons withdrew as the Romans landed and formed a battleline. There's no evidence of any real fighting, so the Brions were probably at most a scouting force.

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The British were eventually driven back with catapultae and slings fired from the warships into the exposed flank of their formation and the Romans managed to land and drive them off.

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sounds pretty contested to me

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I don't see any examples of the Britons actually trying to contest the landing. They're few and weak enough that they can be driven back by ship-based projectiles, there's no evidence that they actually attacked the landing Romans.

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The Britons had kept pace and fielded an impressive force, including cavalry and chariots, and the legions were hesitant to go ashore. To make matters worse, the loaded Roman ships were too low in the water to go close inshore and the troops had to disembark in deep water, all the while attacked by the enemy from the shallows. Eventually, the legion's standard bearer jumped into the sea and waded to shore. To have the legion's standard fall in combat was the greatest humiliation, and the men disembarked to protect the standard bearer.

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It doesn't get more contested than that

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Never says they actually engaged.

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It wasn't a major battle but there was a fight

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Wife is teasing me with this movie called "The Bluff" we just started playing and having fun so far.

winged jay
# craggy summit Fun historical trivia: Until the D-Day landings on June 6, 1944, the largest amp...

Ah ... 16,000 Australian and New Zealand troops landed on just one beach of the Gallipoli landings on 25 April 1915.

A total of five divisions were involved in the initial landing, the Welsh being slaughtered as they ran down the gang planks of the cruise ship used for their landing. All up 15 divisions numbering some 550,000 Imperial British and French troops were involved in the landing at Gallipoli, initially six beaches with a further landing at Suvla Bay. 26,111 Australian casualties alone.

It was the largest amphibious landing operation in military history.

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# winged jay Ah ... 16,000 Australian and New Zealand troops landed on just one beach of the ...

You're right that Gallipoli was massive (especially the full campaign with ~500k+ troops over months), but many historians still call Cartagena de Indias 1741 the largest single amphibious assault before D-Day, with around 27k to 30k troops and 180+ ships deployed at once (often described as "the largest until Normandy"). The initial Anzac landing was, as u properly mentiones, 16k on one beach, but the total Gallipoli effort built up gradually, not quite the same concentrated scale as Vernon's fleet in 1741.

Both battles and feats are admirable and worthy of being remembered.

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Its the largest if you ignore
Operation Husky
Operation Avalanche
The Japanese Invasion of the Phillipines
The Japanese Invasion of Thailand
The mentioned Gallipoli landings
Or Unternehmen Albion

And probably a few more

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I think the Peninsular campaign also would count, the US landed a lot of troops in Virginia.

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Soviet landing at Kerch 1943 is also larger. 27 000 men the first three days.

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150 000 men in total.

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The initial landing was five division across six beaches, not just the ANZAC's at Anzac Cove. About 90,000 soldiers, three times the number at Cartagena. All half a million allied soldiers involved landed amphibiously over two and a half times the number involved at Normandy.

The numbers speak for themselves, the Gallipoli landings never got past the landing stage a complete mess. 36,000 troops were involved in the clean withdrawal with out casualty.

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What is extra impressive about gallipoli is that it was mostly done with open wooden rowing boats, the traditional way of landing, and not with specialised landing crafts like the ww2 landings.

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# last pollen 150 000 men in total.

Yes. As big as the Normandy Landings and mor strategically important in the long run. The Russian efforts tend to get dismissed by western historians.

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elder dirge
# cosmic yacht

Hey look, someone who actually knows what the CSA flag looked like!

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Indeed.

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Just a few ships that made the voyage from England to America in 1607 - FYI not the original ships but recreations of the original

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but its the 1700's

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no. Can't dive. Just a cigar shaped ship with a central propeller that would run around the whole ship.

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<@&1354821664998817822> scrubbing the deck needed.

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I would like to bet my 2 dabloons, and ask will we see any other large land animals/bosses, in particular maybe a large Sebecidae of some kind on a larger island since these monsters lived all over S.A. and the Caribbean Islands (moving onto them when they were connected by land bridges) or larger flightless bird like a Moa, or Phorusrhacidae we could find and harvest meat to be traded with on quests or if you wanna become a whaling/hunting outfit like I would personally like to set up? If not I wanted to ask anyways since I thought it would be neat alongside the Dodos to have another group of extinct creatures that's faded into legend & stone

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Skulls alone would make great trophies

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More deck scrubbing <@&1354821664998817822>

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The franklin expedition takes the cake as the most preventable maritime disaster

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down it went, then rose again... for a museum!

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When you really read about stuff, it's amazing how many ships went down under during their maiden voyage...

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Still inside the harbor

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Literally just tipped over due to light winds because it was too top heavy

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It’s a cool ship. I’d love to one day go see it in the museum in Sweden

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yeah that's definitely worse then the franklin expedition

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although the franklin expedition was still pretty bad

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the hms terror got trapped in ice for ten months on her first expedition which should have indicated that she was not suited for that kind of expedition

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what they needed was a ice breaker which existed for decades long before that fateful disastrous voyage

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icebreaker#Earliest_icebreakers

Icebreaker

An icebreaker is a special-purpose ship or boat designed to move and navigate through ice-covered waters, and provide safe waterways for other boats and ships. Although the term usually refers to ice-breaking ships, it may also refer to smaller vessels, such as the icebreaking boats that were once used on the canals of the United Kingdom.
For a...

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# cosmic yacht what happened to the vasa?

Vasa was a Swedish royal warship that was built according to a new standard, with two main decks of heavy guns - superbly cast 24pdr bronze guns. Her Dutch master builder had not built a ship with such a heavy upper battery and also built the timbering very heavy to carry the guns. The result was a ship that was too narrow and had too much weight too high, and she capsised and sank on her maiden voyage in 1628.

Due to the Baltic Sea being so cold and brackish, the wood worm that attacks wood in other seas do not live there, so the ship was very well preserved, and she was raised with a complete hull in 1961 and is since then a world-unique museum ship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_(ship)

Vasa (ship)

Vasa (previously Wasa) (Swedish pronunciation: [²vɑːsa] ) is a Swedish warship built between 1626 and 1628. The ship sank after sailing roughly 1,300 m (1,400 yd) into her maiden voyage on 10 August 1628. She fell into obscurity after most of her valuable bronze cannons were salvaged in the 17th century, until she was located again in the lat...

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They even re-created one of the drinks found aboard - cognac/brandy spiced with anise spicing.

https://www.vasa1628.com/

Vasa 1628

A re-creation of the worlds oldest liquor find. Found on the sunken warship vasa. Sunken 1628, salvaged 1961, recreated 2022.

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Swedish ships rarely sailed outside the Baltic during the era of wooden ships.

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interesting fact
wood "worms" are actually a species of clam

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I did not know that.

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A day where you learn something new is a good day. 🙂

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Here's a picture I took of Vasa when I visited thsi last July.

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I think the English Sovereign of the Seas was the greatest in that category. The Dutch called her "The gilded devil".

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HMS Victory, built 1765 had a much more sparsely decorated stern.

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Vasa's more successful sister, Äpplet (refering to the globus cruciger) was not used much. The huge artillery ships built in this era, a proto ship of the line focusing on firepower rather than boarding, were bad sailers and very costly to muster. Äpplet was sunk as a blocking ship 1659.

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Yeah, later int eh 18th century that type of ship became standard. Although having two heavy batteries would not come back until the French started building their extremely heavy ship fothe line in the 1820s.

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The French started building straight-sided (instead of the inward-leaning) ships of the line with the Suffren in 1829, equipping them with two heavy batteries.

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actually now that I think about it’s more of a proto gunboat

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I hope we can make our boat butts fancy in the main game

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# last pollen

why did 16th century 1st rates always have 2 deck captain quarters (on the exterior anyways) and 18th always had 3 deck

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especially that sovereign of the seas

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кругосветки не будет

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<@&1354821664998817822> the deck needs a'swabbin'.

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Quick and efficient, thanks. 🙂

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I adore tallships so much

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Just as long as ship customization stays... traditional.
We don't need Pirate Yakuza's neon pink SS Hello Kitty Island Adventure as our flagship.

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I completed the demo, but before that I had to speak to Galen and he gave me a quest for locating an artifact from a Thomas fellow, but it is not in my journal or quest log?

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I'll make my ship look however I want, thank you very much

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whats wrong with some yakuza pirate ships

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Well. To be fair.
If that ship rolled up to me and started firing it's period accurate 17th century pink lasers at me as it used its rocket engines to drift around me, I'd be proper terrified. But it's a bit of a stretch to have it in a more... down to earth game.
Chaos mode would be if there's no transmog/customization option, and you're forced to run the pink ship because of optimal stats...

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I wanna buy this tallship

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The Glory, it's living in a shed

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40' long

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I can tow it, problem is.... I live on the west coast

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So that'd be one long sail back west

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Sail outta Chesapeake, head south and stop at Tortuga, resupply, fight off the ~- cartel ~~ SPAINISH, as we head to the suez canal, before heading north to the mysterious uncharted waters of the Bering sea

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# pseudo pendant I volunteer as crew! 🫡

Once we make it to the bering sea we'll have to go up the Potomac River to get to the French town of Cor'delain Idaho before getting a slight ~~ tow over land ~~ detor to our final resting place on the largest body of water west of the Mississippi River. Flathead lake

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At the end of our journey it'll probably end up docked near the largest ship we have currently on the lake as well as being one of the largest sailing ships since the GN steamship company sailed on the water although those ships were well over 100ft long

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Largest being the S.S. Helena which sank, she was 240', and had a beam of about 30' for cargo

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Sank about 1930 due to a boiler fire and explosion

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One of only 2 deep water ships we had

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Rest were river/lake boats which could navigate the Delta and head up river

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What would be crazy is having a 40' tallship like the Glory outfitted with 7 or 8 32 pounder canons or 10 20 pounder canons

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I'm not sure you could stay afloat because of the weight when turning really hard

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Perfectly reasonable loadout

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For a merchant marine vessel

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42-pdr:s are a huge overkill for a merchant vessel.

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As an example, the Götheborg, Swedish East Indiaman carried 30 guns, but they were 6pdr:s.

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Due to the warships carrying heavier guns, but also much heavier timbering.

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The replica of the Götheborg is a beatiful ship.

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They had to re-invent entire industries to build her as close to the original.

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Hemp growing, rope making by hand, hand weaving on the sails and so on.

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Hand smithing of nails and so on.

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my Klabautermann's heart is wheeping ❤️

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imagine a rope failure on one cannon alone and it recoils across the deck. thats a crap day

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We've seen screenshots with them, so probably.

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Have you?

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I am waiting for my 40' tallship so I can arm it with 6 42 pounders just to tip over every time I fire lmao

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I'm gonna be a smol speedy and turning Boi on them 🌊

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That scene is so unrealistic. Two 17th century galleons, that at most carried 18x12pdr:s and 6x6pdr:s decimate a 18th (or even early 19th) century 1st rate. The sides of the 1st rate would be at least 50cm oak, which the guns of the galleons would not be able to penetrate.

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# plucky ibex my brother in crist its a movie where a squid faced man stands in a bucket on sa...

It is about reasonable suspension of disbelief. If we're going full fantasy, why use contemporary technology at all? Just have the Dutchman and the Black Pearl fire death rays from their gunports? The whole thing about Davy Jones having to use buckets to circumvent his curse makes the whole thing grounded and believable.

The best world building and believable alternative universes are grounded in the laws of physics and historical facts, making "what if we change only this" and show how a contemporary socioety would attempt to deal with it.

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Will we fight Temu Blackbeard in a maelstrom while tokyo drifting in the swirly?

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IMHO, one of the best scenes in the first movie (which still is by the far best of them) is when the British soldiers board the cursed Black Pearl and the two recurring guards, who up to that point have mostly been comic relied for Jack Sparrow to trick, see the undead pirates they are fighting, go pale, but still shake hands and continue onwards.

It shows how important duty was at the time, and how they know they will most likely die in a futile fight, but they are soldiers and will carry on nevertheless. It is a perfect way to put the undead immortal skeleton pirates into the time and sentiment of the 18th century and how two brave men deal with it.

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# last pollen It is about reasonable suspension of disbelief. If we're going full fantasy, why...

because its a pirate movie back in 2003 to 2019 piraters where still a big thing in media an if they fired lazers it wouldnt be pirate an the executive who greenlit the movie wouldnt have been happy but maybe thats a bit to metta i guess but its entirely based the reason they used contemporary tech is because thats what pirates used if they advertised a pirate movie an there was a lazer it wouldnt have gone well an that scene didnt they hide until the fight turned then they just jumped out of there hiding stop maybe im remembering wrong it has been yeat

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It's a fantastic movie scene. Realistic? Not at all. Well done and dramatic, you bet!

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I'll agree that from a cinematographic perspective, it is beautiful. But otherwise, it is quite bad.

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Don't let historical inaccuracies ruin something for you 🙂

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That would be impossible.

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I love how none of y'all ever talk about the actual lore of Windrose, it exists and it's great. And sorry to spoil a bit but it's definitely not "realistic" in nature either, sorry.

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That being said ofc it won't have the super pink hello kitty Lazer gunship either, it's always a line being walked and I've seen some people say they draw the line at historical accuracy at which point we're already past that. It's fine with me I love that Tortuga has been sieged by undead and that our entire game plan is a pirate nightmare

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It does look interesting, but there's not a lot of it in the demo.

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Example for me is the question of how much of the Spanish armed forces have already been lost in the Ashland's, and why do they look even more decrepit than the drowned or even Hands himself

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Iirc there are 3 key relics to this whole curse thing so maybe it's to do with the curse of the second relic instead of the first?

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That's all way over my head. I didn't get to play the alpha and haven't been chasing after scraps of information either. I'll enjoy it as I play it.

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Fair enough, I'm just a lore nut, especially when I get to explore funny edgelord stuff like a siege of undead making a pirate town one of the only safe havens for multiple factions

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'Hello, Devil. It's Edward Teach. We need 5 billion sloops to bomb Tortuga'.

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tbh a ultra hyper grounded pirate game would suck witch thankfully windrose is not

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It's really just personal preference for me, i like the story of the Pirate Republic more than early Buccaneers

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I'm just saying, as funny and absurd as it is people will hate on anything

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I hate sand

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wait theres actual windrose lore i fought in the demo there really wasnt any other than the weird stone glowly think that made us survive

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I just wanna pirate.

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That's still a personal preference thing, I'm really digging the story so far

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basically everything is a "personal preference thing". I just hope it won't disrupt the flow of free will sandbox gaming too much

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It shouldn't, for the most part you could take your time with the alpha. And yeah I get what you mean with everything is a personal preference, that's true, my only concern has been people saying they are super happy having a grounded and realistic pirate game not having paid attention to the fact that we have a lot of weird magic / curse stuff already going on

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Fair enough

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WIl we be able to sail off the edge of the world? 😄

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Again fair to each their own, I hope for the same thing. Especially if we can do some cool voodoo potions later

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I'm looking forward to having some story stuff. For me, empty sandboxes get stale fast.

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I'm gonna embrace it >:)

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Deck scrubbing needed <@&1354821664998817822>

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Renditions of scanned Dutch East Indiamen from the 17th and 18th centuries.

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I still struggle to understand how sails propel a boat forward when the wind isn’t fully at the back of the boat 😵‍💫 someone please educate me on this. How do sideways sails create forward movement and not just tip the ship over?

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# terse path I still struggle to understand how sails propel a boat forward when the wind isn...

Ships have a keel which both lowers the center of gravity of the ship and offers resistance to lateral tilt. Couple that with trained sailors who can keep the sails properly trimmed and you can sail 'into the wind'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacking_(sailing)

Tacking (sailing)

Tacking or coming about is a sailing maneuver by which a sailing craft (sailing vessel, ice boat, or land yacht), whose next destination is into the wind, turns its bow toward and through the wind so that the direction from which the wind blows changes from one side of the boat to the other, allowing progress in the desired direction. Sailing v...

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# terse path I still struggle to understand how sails propel a boat forward when the wind isn...

It's a fine balance between "enough sail area to get decent speed" and "too much sail area which results in capsizing (boat/ship turning over)". Obviously depends on wind strength and to some extend on the swell (strength of waves).
Sailships have a keel against side tilt and ballast in the bottom area, to help stabilizing it.

How far "into the wind" a ship can go depends strongly on the kind of sails it has; fore-and-aft rigs having an advantage here compared to square rigs. Square rigs are mostly suited for winds coming from behind, whereas fore-and-aft rigs are helpful sailing upwind. Their function can be compared to that of an airplanes wing. The wind flowing around the sail on both sides generates negative pressure on the leeward side (the side of the sail where the wind doesn't come from) and overpressure on the windward side. The pressure difference results in forward movement.
On tallships, the square rigged sails can be trimmed by moving the yards (the big wooden "sticks" to which the sails are connected) around so that the same physics apply, but only to some extend, so that the resulting angle against the wind is bigger than on a ship that sports only fore-and-aft sails (like modern yachts).

Most fore-and-aft rigged sails are triangular, whereas square rigged sails are always, well, square (though not in a mathematical way).

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The Ideology of 17th Century Pirates: Magic, Religion, and Radical ...

Decoding the secret ideologies and beliefs of 17th century pirates, ranging from their beliefs in magic, to political radicalism and religious extremism.

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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz-X8GGLYArXHe0q5nhmYtA 🥰 🏴‍☠️ 🎶 .

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Pirates of the Horizon

We make music for those who hear the call of the sea—the dreamers, the wanderers, and the ones who long for adventure beyond the horizon. Whether you’re raising a mug in a crowded tavern, gazing at the endless waves, or simply lost in the rhythm of the tide, our songs are here to take you there.

Sea shanties aren’t just songs; they’re s...

oblique sandal
naive warren
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its been a year of lore... beautiful

keen elbow
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"canskulle"

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quick lodge
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And on days with little to no wind the whole crew would gather on deck and just blow on the sails.

last pollen
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In an important situation with no wind, the ship would drop its anchors into the small boats it carried and have crews row those boats to move the ship ever so slowly.

light ridge
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Or starve to death in the doldrums because the wind and the current both decided to take a vacation.

last pollen
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Unfortunately, thirst to death was more likely. But disease like measles, typhus and scurvy would probably take more of the crew than thirst and starvation. A sailor's life was hard.

elder dirge
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last pollen
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Stupidest scene in all the movies.

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Even beyond two 17th century galleons taking on a late 18th century first rate ship of the line.

green ridge
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As any good DM will always tell you, the rule of cool outranks any other

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shell pulsar
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shell pulsar
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The first rate ship easily could taken out both the pearl and the dutchman, but the scene symbolized that beckets control had slipped away, he was no longer in control.

Thus why the first rate was taken out by an indiaman and a race galleon

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Not to mention, pirates generally used smaller ships to take on larger ships

green ridge
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Plus it was a cool AF scene, not related to this games lore but still cool!

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unique cape
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i doubt the dutchman would stay down tho all things considered xD

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dusk jungle
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Man i should really watch the movies properly

green ridge
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I guess that's still a mind game but the reason he lost wasn't because of the mind games it was because he was demoralized so bad he pulled a titanic in a matter of seconds

unique cape
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id argue that the dumbest thing in that movie would be becket having that amount of pressure and control over jones while the heart is aboard the dutchman and we can see the crew can just walk out the wall and such. you dont tell jones what to do That way on his own cursed ship

shell pulsar
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that was appart of Beckets "control" litterally saying "Oh jones, you know your heart? the one thing that gives me control over you? well imma put the key to your own free will litterally dangling in front of you, but there is nothing you can do about it, else you will die"

unique cape
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sends 4 dudes in that room through the wall stabbing the dudes at the canons

shell pulsar
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if you recall, there was a literal breakdown of the military control, and the only thing that kept jones from reclaiming the heart was the fact that there where 2 swivel cannons pointed point blank at them, primed and ready at any point

unique cape
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by 2 doorknobs. aye xD

green ridge
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I'm gonna be honest I think it's more likely that Jones didn't care about the heart at that time

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"2 doorknobs"

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unique cape
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the control over him in itself is fine but against* a crew that is shown to be able to just walk out of walls on any given ship this doesnt mean much

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green ridge
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As far as he's concerned the heart is safe on his ship where he could indeed get to it if he truly cared enough however don't forget Becket promised him Jack, and he knew the brethren court was meeting to talk about Calypso which was also a concern because he didn't want her released, if he deals with them then he can work on his freedom

shell pulsar
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tbf when jones did get the key back amidst the malestrom battle, the 2 chuckle nuts did loose track of the chest, and when we next saw jones it actually looked like he was heading to the chest

unique cape
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if he REALLY wanted all these knobs gone, there is none that know the sea better than jones. sail into a storm to mask the movement and Dive.
your crew dont care xD

green ridge
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And it's not until during an actual battle that it's just the two people left at which point his concern wasn't on the chest at that moment it was on the fact that Calypso was released. That's the only reason they managed to get the heart away from Jones in the maelstrom

green ridge
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aye. i mean the way it was set up is kinda dumb. there are many way in wich leaving the heart at jones ship just tossed beckets plan into a blender.
given its Jones, he should have just laughed in his face as soon as they finished setting crap up

green ridge
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Hell he probably did, I think he only listened to Becket with regards to what he was doing to bide time to come up with how to best keep his heart safe in an ambush and make sure Calypso stayed bound

unique cape
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true he (how ever thats possible, maybe becket told him?) knew about the bretheren meeting up and hunted those down and learned about the plan later

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...i dont wanna spoil stuff (even if its old) for ppl who havent seen it for some reason but thats irrelevant at this point huh xD

green ridge
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It's also veered greatly off topic for the channel, but no one wants to talk about the travelers notes or journal entries with me 🙁

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One of the things with the royal navy at the time they had the mid-to-late 18th century ship of the line as depicted in the movie was that they were extremely decentralised in command. Basically anyone could order anything on a ship, and it would be obeyed. If you were wrong about the order, you would suffer very harsh discipline, but if you were right, you would be rewarded (for example double ration of rum). The captain of the ship would not ask Becket for orders and then order abandon ship when he did not get them. And if he was also affected, the senior lieutenant would take over.

Destroying a ship of the line of that size would take hours, not seconds. And the lighter guns on the pearl and the dutchman would not even penetrate the sides of a 1st rate, like HMS Guirriere could not penetrate USS Constitution, which gave her the nickname "Old Ironsides".

The scene is very well done cinematographically, but otherwise it is bad.

Better would have been to have the Pearl engage broadside to broadside and barely hanging on, and the Dutchman using its magic to sail against the current and wind to rake the HMS Endevour repeatedly, which would have done a TON of damage.

green ridge
last pollen
# green ridge You're.... Your talking about a movie with skeletons, talking squids and boats t...

We've been through this before, but yeah. I like it when magic stuff still obey the laws of physics, or at least have their own established set of rules. It makes the suspension of disbelief so much easier. I still hold that the first movie is much better than the rest combined, since it does that and does it very well. It also gives very good nods to the realities and sentiments of the times, like when the marines board the Pearl and realise they are fighting undead, and Mullroy and Murtogg going pale, shaking hands with eachother and continuing onward to fight.

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It's a bit hard to make every single thing make sense in a movie..they only have a small time to establish rules. stuff NEEDS to be added just for the sake of it looking good or being a fun scene, otherwise one could just watch a documentary. It's a fantasy pirate movie with funny scenes and a depressed squid man haha. Overanalyzing it and taking away the scenes that don't make sense, would make many if not almost all movies bland imo.

Can it be fun to rip some stuff apart using the logic of their own universe? DEFINITELY, but i feel like some movies are terrible for that since proper "rules" have never really been set in the first place

unique cape
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its nice to have rules and have the story follow them but if all is TOO real it kinda looses its charm right,
some argument about that can be made as well that some impossible feats and whatnot have been pulled off in reality as well. things that shouldnt have worked like that just do out of...luck perhaps. (see how the HMS Hood was sunk. that be one of many)

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extremely in times where one spark can be enough to rip a ship in half no matter how fantastic its built

green ridge
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My point is in a movie with shrinking ships, undead lunatics, and even a ship that can dive underwater and be perfectly fine afterwards, a 3 barrel cannon set up definitely isn't the biggest stretch of logic to magic the movies made

dusk jungle
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one of my favorite scenes i know of haha. it's so ridiculous but I love it

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unique cape
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i wonder how much weight* would be needed to keep that thing down there and the 2 still being able to walk...would a steel-plate armor on both be enough? (doubt) lol

dusk jungle
unique cape
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they kinda do xD

green ridge
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green ridge
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I would ask shouldn't you be yelling at us to get the channel back on topic but but that's my job too so someone quickly screengrab a journal entry from the demo so I don't look like a fool

long bronze
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Okay Lore-Masters, can you explain this one to me? It was in a cave....

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terse path
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The loading screen indicates we shall one day have pretzels in game? 🤔

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terse path
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Doctor Galen has a glimpse of tattoo on his right wrist 🤔 I wonder what the rest of it looks like

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green barn
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Maybe he's been touched by the same or similar thing as the mc

green ridge
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I doubt it's the same curse afflicting him but it could make for an intresting plot twist

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opaque musk
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Does the game have like npc that were real in life ? Like Anne Bonny and stuff ?

green ridge
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I don't wish to spoil who but yes

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last pollen
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<@&1354821664998817822> deck needs scrubbing here too.

green barn
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TO THE PLANK WITH YE WENCH

urban heath
tall anchor
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@urban heath whats wrong with Florida? Were basically our own state🤣🤣🤣

urban heath
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What’s wrong with it? You have gators EVERYWHERE, folks with an alarming penchant for chaos and all the native flora wants to kill you. And I was born there.

elder dirge
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Spent 2 years there. I have zero desire to return.

urban heath
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Also I don’t know if this is a lore question but when Windrose comes to EA and eventually gets Steam Deck support can I choose against having PvP. Wolfen I spent over a decade there. Maybe I’ll go back to visit family but…Other than that probably not

elder dirge
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PvP is not going to be a thing for EA. Might or might not be a thing later on down the road.

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Small, self-hosted servers is the current game design. It's not like it's going to be an MMO with gigantic public servers.

urban heath
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Phew. I don’t want to get into a fight with another player. Any clue when this will get Steam controller support?

elder dirge
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No idea. Hopefully EA will have better controller support than the demo.

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I play M+K, so it's not top of my list to keep up with.

dry swan
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I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW I GOTTHIS LITTLE dINGY, HOW DID I GET A SHIP?

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Srry caps

light ridge
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When the doc comes to your bonfire and gives you the first quest, he also gives you a tiny dingy that he... 'found'... so you can get to the next island.

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It's also how the doc got to your bonfire.

dry swan
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oh i see, i i didnt recall that part, thanks

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So seems like blackbeard sold his soul and has a an undead army, but what I wanna know is WHO did he make that deal with?? Because the game is dropping hints about stuff way older and weirder than him, like those corrupted creatures, the cursed zones, whatever ancient stuff is going on under the ocean (kraken maybe?? 👀). I think blackbeard is just a pawn and the real endgame boss is gonna be whatever thing actually gave him all that power

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# manic cloud Mythbusters had tested this in a Hollywood special. And no, it just doesn't wor...

Everything else about the scene though is actually accurate. That being the air bubble. It not only gives you one, but a sizable one too.

It's just sadly the buoyancy of the wood, which even underwater, took like 500+ lbs to keep underwater. Which was nowhere close to the weight of the two men holding it. (This does not include the fact that humans are mostly buoyant anyway so the weight they would be able to use is even less)

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there are a great many sea deities, and a great few beasts. for instance, typhon, tiamat, etc. even apsu could be involved as to why the seas are theway they are. in terms of a corruptive essence that leads to undeath, we may want to look to folk lore as far as undead, curses, and those who during this period would want to induce suffering.

i can assume this zombie curse is a refference to hatian zombies. and if not, then just standard the sea is evil.

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There has been quite some pirate lore in modern fiction leaning into Aztec beliefs.

cold loom
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My favorite pirate legend has to be Long Ben (Henry Every). Really excited to uncover how Windrose incorporates pirate lore and see any differences and/or similarities from what Uncharted 4 and Black Sails did.

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This is the tale of the bag of old... I have heard that thier are 7 bottles in total that when combined shows the location of the flying dutchman... once put together this maps summons the flying Dutchman at coordinates xxx,xxx for 2 hrs when the sun is the tallest of the day. The tale goes if you defeat the Dutchman and its crew an island will appear protected by Davy Jones himself and once you defeat him you gain the bag of old... (idea for mod later in game to provide unlimited back pack space)

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When PVP is coming ?

tiny cradle
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winged robin
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PvP
Pirate vs Privateer

opaque musk
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Heh do they have underwater stuff like sharks and stuff ?

green ridge
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No

opaque musk
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Tyy

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Is there a PvP mode ? Or is it all pve ?

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Oh wait just read

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Haha morning brain yayyy

spring junco
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What is the story behind tortuga?

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Can we free it?

tawny pawn
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Does anyone know where the Madman's Chest is?

orchid sparrow
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Hey guys,
The demo save is working in the early acces, or you need to create a new character?

torpid oriole
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Anyone know where to find privateer pieces?

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topaz jackal
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After the first 10, 15 hours I have only to say one word: GREAT! There are so many little improvements compared to the playtest. great work. Go on this way!

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# spring junco Can we free it?

In truth I doubt we could, the townsfolk themselves have been pushed to the coastline pretty much and marked the island as off-limits, if anyone would be working to find a solution it would be them, instead they have us hunting blackbeard's pirates for their medals

spring junco
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I think that defeating blackbeard will be the solution

lunar iron
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Is there any mention of Nassau or Libertalia for the future?

mental parcel
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How does the main story progression work in a dedicated server? Everyone progress in their own story or one shared server progress?

fluid sand
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About to start the game this Friday, anything i should know or learn before I begin?

midnight nymph
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Learn to curse like a seadog. 🏴‍☠️

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oblique shell
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how does a hewn stone look like?

modest siren
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Wait so if I play on my own, progress quests like for the factions and what it, but stop whenever I see the next phase says “Shared Progress” will my friends get back the xp and rewards of the progress i made without them?

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Like when they come back and we all do the next “Shared progress” part of the quests

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fluid sand
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🤌

static snow
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got my first ketch, name it under a Cargo, LLC lol

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this quote made me lol

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aiming to retire to a beautiful spanish villa

elder dirge
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You don't want to be a pie rat?

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stray mist
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Helpppppp🤣🤣🤣

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kind shuttle
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they cant hurt you

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on the lil boat

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i sail through lvl 15 ships all the time with it\

timid cypress
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Can someone help with an experiment? I've found that there isn't a scale for the map. I need someone to travel at full speed across one square. Reply with your speed and time so I can compare and give us a map size

keen elbow
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yarrr

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Unintentionally watched Black Sails before the game release came out and was super excited when coming across lore in the game like Hornigold and other pirates

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i'll try to get a better sample

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Is Hornigold dead or is he still around? If yes... we are either in a paralel universe... or its between 1717 & 1719

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mental veldt
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plz tell me animal rasing is in the works

green barn
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shut shoal
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Anyone know if the last chest in ancient fire sanctuary (part of MSQ) is bugged? Been looking for like an hour 😭

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warped smelt
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quick question, how does one get access to hats/new clothes? I've unlocked the basic starter clothes (the survivor's set) as well as found some other odds and ends, but i would very much like to make some actual sets. also, i need a pirate hat. how am i supposed to pirate with no pirate hat?

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shut shoal
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May be bugged

wicked kayak
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Maybe a bug try to check after update 😉

shut shoal
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Ye I’ll submit it just in case

dim cape
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I found it

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shut shoal
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Nvm I found it ty

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simple timber
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Happened to me a few times that I ran past the wall 10 times

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my inventorie took a hit on that sweet find combo solo

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I got a sturdy rapier early. With is was the sturdy saber. I'm not big on the rapier attack patterns. Haven't seen a ring yet.

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lunar iron
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Oh cool, my pirate's name is Sirius "Senator" Slaughter

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IM a friend code if you ever want to team up

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Sure np, RP doesn't bother me

swift cliff
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<@&1354821664998817822>

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This person has presumably nsfw server invite in bio.

bleak warren
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Thanks Captain chatGPT for the story ❤️

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<@&1354821664998817822> ^

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thanks mods 💖

terse path
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I kinda wish we could craft armor out of zombie crab carapaces. It would create a more fantasy nautical vibe, but since there's already alchemy and the undead, I think that ship already sailed...

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or even from the Armored Drowned 🤔 since their bodies are already human in shape, and an exoskeleton could be left behind after they poof since it appears to be formed from accumulating coral

opal vector
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@green ridge

tiny cradle
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Another ban coming up

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<@&1354821664998817822> ^^

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tiny cradle
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You have to type the whole thing for it to show up at least for me

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tiny cradle
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But it looks like none of them are online atm 🙁

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There we go - thanks Mods

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@nimble egret

solid belfry
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Thinking about an upcoming chat feature, and with so, I will RP with my friends...

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Might be an English pirate whose is Catholic and is trying to fight the Spanish Inquisition or something

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Then he went to his home country to blow up the Protestant King, got caught and fled to the Caribbean

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Now he fights as a corsair

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This game is low fantasy, real countries are mentioned, not anything like.. One Piece or Sea of Thieves.

marble quail
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although it mainly keeps those mentions outside of the game in the novelisations

heavy musk
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So this isn’t actual lore? Just player made?

midnight nymph
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Some of the factions and some of the figures mentioned in the game are historical.

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fallen venture
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sea of thieves is suppose to be in the real world but it is cursed so anyone who enters cannot leave so it is effectively cut off

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fallen venture
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i was pretty obsessed with sot lore for a long while. wish the game was better lol

swift cliff
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Still got it on my Xbox

swift cliff
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1.0 has an interesting pirate one, and imo the ship combat is somewhat similar to this gamd

fallen venture
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i never tried them, but i heard they weren’t bad. just not my kind of game mostly

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# swift cliff Blackbeard

Not only Edward "Blackbeard" Thatch but also ||Thomas Richards (1st Boss), Israel Hands (2nd Boss), Benjamin Hornigold, Henry "Long Ben" Avery, Stede Bonnet, the Brethren of the Coast and the (French?) Buccaneers||. Some of them are jumbled in the timeline, having sometimes lived decades earlier but the figures are there.

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midnight nymph
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Thanks for the reminder

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Thanks delta the riolu

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also, Galen hails from England

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Where does the man o war come in? That was a pirates worst nightmare to see. It meant flee or die? The frigate shouldn't have been a ship you can sail, needing at least 50 ppl, it should've been like a 1 in 100 or whatever chance you met one on your travels and have the same historical option they had

fallen venture
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well, I’m gonna be honest from everything that I’ve been reading online on actual historical content. That name is highly misused

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galleons like we know we’re mostly a thing of the past by the golden age of privacy because they were more on to long and fast ships rather than these giant whales that were hard to move pirates mostly stuck to quick ships

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man o war literally refers to any warship and not to a galleon like black flag would make you think

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A frigate can be a man of war if it is built as a warship. Typically the man of war of a pirate fleet was the most heavily armed ship, but that’s not going to be a gigantic ship. Those are just far too slow and cumbersome and require way too big of crews

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they will have a man of war, which would be their warship, several privateers, which would be smaller ships, they would have a ship that would be used for cargo specifically which would be the slowest and least seaworthy vessel in their fleet, and they would also typically have a hospital ship that they have specifically for maintaining wounded

swift cliff
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Or not Spanish, English I think.

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The one in the first movie.

worldly crow
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The og one is spanish .

swift cliff
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The dauntless

fallen venture
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yeah, something like that is usually too cumbersome for a pirate to actually claim

oak kernel
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The English man o war was a 60 meter heavy frigate warship.

fallen venture
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exactly a frigate

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built as a warship. not this massive floating fortress galleon that is all fantasy.

now that being said

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I want myself a multi deck giant ship

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this is pirate fantasy after all

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just being clear on classic history versus fantasy

oak kernel
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Im thinking historically, which at one point the devs had mentioned they wanna stick to. Historically, that was absolutely not a pirate ship

fallen venture
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i’ve heard that galleons are on the list of upcoming ship types later

oak kernel
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I've heard that as well.

fallen venture
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so we do expect us to get some ships that would be a lot less historical but are there just for fun

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something I would really like to encounter eventually are curses

elder dirge
fallen venture
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imagine stealing some legendary treasure but you get turned into a skeleton till you make an alchemical cure or something

oak kernel
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Lol worth it

fallen venture
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been trying forever in sea of thieves to get the ghost curse

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fallen venture
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probably waiting for level 30

elder dirge
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I expect they didn't sail ships of the line to the carribean all that often. Far better task for a frigate.

fallen venture
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i feel like we will see royal navy eventually and stuff

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yeah ships of the line usually didn’t visit the colonies

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fallen venture
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that is potc fantasy i feel

elder dirge
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The ship of the line we've seen pictures of from the game is based on the Royal William.

swift cliff
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Cuz I think the Endeavor would probably scare the pirates quite a bit.

swift cliff
elder dirge
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IMHO, not really. Certainly not with any regularity or in any nubers.

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# fallen venture that is potc fantasy i feel

Yeah, that does make sense. I believe the Endeavor is also presented as the biggest ship in the area at least, with the Interceptor being the fastest (apart from the Pearl, which is obvious fantasy for the reasons at least. )

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fallen venture
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that’s the thing this is Pirates of the Caribbean fantasy, so I’m sure we are going to see those ships regardless if they would’ve actually been there historically

swift cliff
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Ah yeah. Endeavor was the third movie ship, while Dauntless was the first movie ship I think.

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But like both have 3 rows of guns and would be absurdly scary to pirate ships.

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elder dirge
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You certainly wouldn't want to get near it, but I can't imagine it'd be hard for anything a pirate would be sailing on to out-sail a three deck ship of the line.

swift cliff
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From potc?

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elder dirge
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It's an anachronism. Those ships are from different eras.

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As for escaping a fast frigate, hope your ships is fore-and-aft rigged so you can sail closer to the wind to escape.

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If the frigate is upwind of you already, you're probably screwed.

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That's also not considering hull and sail condition, crew skill, etc.

fallen venture
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galleons were a thing of the past in the golden age of piracy and even if a pirate got a big ship like that they typically would cut away large parts of the ship to make it smaller and faster

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not to mention real frigates also had room for oars for going against the wind

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would love to see oar usage in game myself

elder dirge
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amazing channel btw highly highly recommend

marble quail
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i havent gotten too far into the game though so if that's already an option i just don't know yet 😆

swift cliff
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marble quail
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I did see a rowboat on tortuga

lone steeple
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or a second rate ship of the line warship

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Looks more second rate imo

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I am hoping they add in ardent class 3rd rate ships of the line

swift cliff
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Already

lone steeple
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Yeah but ardent class is not a man o war its between a frigate and man o war

swift cliff
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Look at that

lone steeple
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Actually, Captain Rosemane is largely correct, though the terminology can be a bit slippery depending on which century you're looking at.
​The image is right to point out that games like Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag often use "Man-o'-War" as a specific class name for a giant, Tier-1 behemoth, which isn't exactly how the Royal Navy used the term historically.

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lone steeple
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First, Second, and Third Rates were "Ships of the Line" (the massive ones seen in games).

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1st Rate 100+ 3 Decks Flagships; massive, slow, and expensive.
2nd Rate 90–98 3 Decks Heavy combat; served as "mini-flagships."
3rd Rate 64–80 2 Decks The "workhorse" of the line of battle.
4th Rate 50–60 2 Decks Heavy convoy escort; too weak for the main battle line.
5th Rate 32–44 1 Main Deck Frigates; fast scouts and commerce raiders.
6th Rate 20–28 1 Main Deck

swift cliff
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Not saying your source is wrong. But it can vary wildly with time period, and country (at the time)

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Keeping in mind this game has a very vague time period of "17XX"

lone steeple
# swift cliff 1. Where's that source coming from? 2. What time period is that for?

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The Admiralty Establishment Books: Official records that listed every ship, its dimensions, and its assigned "complement" (crew and guns).

Samuel Pepys’s "Navy List" (1677): As Secretary to the Admiralty, Pepys formalized the system to stop ship captains from over-ordering supplies. He tied the "Rate" to the number of guns to create a standardized budget for food, pay, and gunpowder. 

The Regulations and Instructions Relating to His Majesty's Service at Sea: The "rulebook" for naval officers throughout the 1700s.

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So the whole concept actually started way back with Henry VIII in the early 1500s, but that specific 1st through 6th rate system u see in books and games was mostly a thing between 1660 and 1860.
​It basically evolved in three phases:

​The Early Period (1600s): Back then, ships were rated by tonnage—basically how much they weighed—or just how many guys were on board. A "First Rate" was rly just any ship that needed a massive crew of 400+ men to run it.

​The Classic Period (1700s – 1815): Ths is the "Golden Age of Sail" and the Napoleonic Wars. Tbh ths is when the gun-count became the hard rule. If ur ship had 74 guns, you were a 3rd Rate. Period. Its usually the era people are thinking of rn when they talk about "Ships of the Line."

​The Late/Industrial Period (1817 – 1860s): Eventually the Navy updated the rules to include carronades (those short-range "smashers") in the official gun count. Before that, they werent counted, so a "38-gun frigate" might actually have like 44 weapons on it. Ths all kind of ended once steam-powered ironclads like the HMS Warrior showed up and made the old wooden sailing rates obsolete.
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Im going off of the golden Period

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The age of pirates

swift cliff
lone steeple
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The ardent class would be a great addition imo

swift cliff
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Though don't take from games like Sea of Thieves. This is for others. They classify a ketch as a brig, and a brig as a galleon (I believe) and the smaller ship (sloop) is something else entirely.

lone steeple
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Has a bit more guns than a frigate so it would be a great 3rd rate ship of the line with 64 guns and 2 decks

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And it was able to have more too

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I think 80 max

teal tendon
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Imagine if we could hit Spanish Gold Fleets...

swift cliff
lone steeple
swift cliff
lone steeple
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Yeah

swift cliff
lone steeple
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I am at work rn so responses will be slow

swift cliff
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Oki

nova flame
teal tendon
lone steeple
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Im gonna spawn this into the game ngl using mods today after work

nova flame
# lone steeple

I hope we can paint them black and the sails black then name them after a certain Disney pirate ship

nova flame
lone steeple
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Black beards was a French frigate

nova flame
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True

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Buuuuuut close enough

lone steeple
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No

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XD

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That's a battleship

nova flame
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lol

lone steeple
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They have a merchant ship in files

nova flame
lone steeple
lone steeple
swift cliff
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checks rules

teal tendon
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What if... Barbary Galley...

lone steeple
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But there were many royal fortunes

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That fancy used

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But his praised one was a french frigate like black beards

nova flame
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Black Bart trying not to name his 100000th flagship “royal fortune”

swift cliff
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Slave transport ship

nova flame
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The real queen annes revenge was also a former slaver

lone steeple
lone steeple
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French slave frigate

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Gotta protect the slaves lol

swift cliff
nova flame
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Freed slaves = free crew for ur pirate needs lol

lone steeple
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Frfr

nova flame
swift cliff
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That's a different lore than what I'm talking abt tho.

nova flame
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Meh it’s still potc relevant 🤷‍♂️

lone steeple
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Btw you can spawn in the battleship rn

nova flame
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Battleship?

swift cliff
lone steeple
# nova flame Battleship?

https://youtu.be/WR4fFBD7n0c?si=6KMPK5HgPb3-WPNx

YouTube
CraftiGamer
Leaking ALL Windrose Ships - Man O' War Found!

Leaking all ships that a player could normally use in the upcoming Windrose game.

There are other ships I could have spawned, but they are just AI variants of the ones shown here. I will do a hostile ship tour like this one in the future.

Mod used to spawn these ships into the game can be found at https://www.nexusmods.com/windrose/mods/2?tab...

▶ Play video
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Watch that

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This is in the files in the game

nova flame
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Oh so it’s not a Yamato?

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False advertising “battleship”

upbeat anchor
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<@&1354821664998817822> ^ dis guy be doin da scam matey

nimble lagoon
upbeat anchor
nimble lagoon
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A mix of both probably

upbeat anchor
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More than likely

supple aspen
elder dirge
upbeat anchor
elder dirge
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IMHO, it's like a safety net under a bridge. It might save you, but it does nothing about the actual problem.

upbeat anchor
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I mean, yeah. Smart people tend not to need it unless a website just had a big data breach. Dumb people tend to need it due to not being able to tell if someone is phishing for their information. Only way it won't work is if the person uses an access token to get in and bypass MFA by tricking the website/app into thinking you're already logged in on that device. Root problem is people getting your info, but it's literally impossible to stop all of them.

elder dirge
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I know it can't all be stopped, but some of us just never seem to have any issues. Kinda hard to understand how it's so widespread and yet certain people don't ever seem to be affected.

upbeat anchor
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Either Luck, or someone penetration tested you to try and get in and figured juice wasn't worth the squeeze. Either/or could be the case. I still get randos in Dubai trying to get into a dummy steam account every once in a while and it makes me laugh lol I don't even use that one 🤣

swift cliff
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Has anyone heard of the game Sailwind?

lone steeple
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Has no cannons and 1 to 2 person crew it can not be considered a warship

lone steeple
grave jacinth
# lone steeple

Do we know the cost of silver coins to get its blue print and materials needed? I'd hate to spend resources on making a frigate and then a couple days later this gets added 🥲

elder dirge
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I'd be shocked if it were added anytime soon. They've a couple serious issues to sort out before looking at adding content.

grave jacinth
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Im gonna guess one of them is performance?

elder dirge
grave jacinth
elder dirge
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My little server's fan has been working overtime for a week. Hoping they can resolve it soon.

lone steeple
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More than likely end of last quarter is what id guess

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Small dev team

grave jacinth
swift cliff
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Probably a year. It takes a lot to get models working, maybe not a year, thinking of another game, but thats a singular dev.

lone steeple
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Files are in the game for it but it would need significant balancing and adjustments especially if they plan on adding pvp

grave jacinth
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Alright, thanks

swift cliff
lone steeple
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I hope not

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Not every game needs to be pvp imo

swift cliff
elder dirge
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It's not been ruled out but it's not a priority.

swift cliff
grave jacinth
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I mean hopefully with all the popularity and selling so many copies they'll have a higher budget and work on making the game higher quality

lone steeple
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I think the sailing mechanics and ground combat, needs a bit of fleshing out, id like to see wind based speed, rear cannons and bracing mechanic to reduce Ship damage.

Please add mortars and carronades.

They should make the ground combat more intuitive, i want them to add repost mechanics, counter mechanics, and parry mechanics.

swift cliff