💬│windrose-chat

[subtle spoke]

I have seen enough to know i will want this when it hits EA. So long as people still talk good about it at that time. Will finish second island exploring. Then wait

[subtle blade]

No iron until Early Access

[teal bramble]

Technically we have to talk about Crosswind still 😛

[subtle blade]

Man I fired up Valheim over the weekend because I was itching for a Windrose-like. 🤭

And uh... Well in many ways it was an exercise in frustration.

[ripe hare]

Copy that. Me and my friends have started fighting the ships to see what they will drop loot wise. We've accomplished all the missions just looking to play until it ends.

[raw yew]

I'm just building a lot now so I can see where I make mistakes before the main game arrives

[neat yarrow]

is there an ETA for Early access yet?

[abstract aspen]

how so?

[raw yew]

not yet

[subtle blade]

Mosquitos

[ripe hare]

HAs any seen if Devs have confrimed what we have accomplished during the demo will remain or will it all reset at Early acces.

[mint wing]

Greetings deck scrubbers,i would like to know if the technical demo allow crossplatform groups please? couldn't find information about it in faq. Thanks

[raw yew]

reset

[amber vortex]

It will reset

It says this on the demo steam page

[subtle blade]

Basically I had my first longship made up, was sailing by a plains biome and missed a sandbar.

When I tried to get back up from the sandbar the momentum pulled me towards shore and I could seemingly do nothing to get it to go forward again because the wind was against me (even in paddle mode)

And so inevitably... A mosquito got me.

[abstract aspen]

that sounds like a neat sailing experience..

[ripe hare]

I was looking for it and i missed it i guess. thanks that sucks but it is what it is.

[violet latch]

Is there any ship customization like in Atlas?

[worthy pelican]

Ahoy Mateys! I just found the demo and am blown away at how amazing this game is!!! I have been waiting for a survival game like this to be made.

[subtle blade]

There will be some cosmetics, but for the time being the ship blueprints/layouts themselves are static.

[violet latch]

Im probably going too fast for the demo. I'm just trying to get more storage containers on the ship

[narrow sentinel]

A few cosmetics have been shown as well (3rd one is most likely a Blackbeard frigate though)

[violet latch]

They look cool

I reckon we get bigger ships farther in the demo then

[narrow sentinel]

Nothing larger than the ketch

[obsidian skiff]

cant wait 4 the EA version xD

[late stratus]

Is a release date planned for Early Access?

[tawny plover]

https://tenor.com/view/dnd-gideon-loa-legends-of-avantris-noir-gif-2332347970656550924

[tawny plover]

no dates confirmed

[late stratus]

or for the next content update?

[abstract aspen]

nothing so far

[plain sinew]

It be a demo, not early access.

[hasty roost]

morning Dino, elcome to daytime again

[obtuse hawk]

Ahoy and welcome to the discord! Glad you are enjoying the demo! Feel free to leave any #1298615271686279208 you have on the game too.

[subtle blade]

Pirate daycare

[granite oxide]

Good Morning Windrose 🙂

[hasty roost]

whats up Swabien

[edgy saddle]

lol

[hasty roost]

LOL

well that was an interesting group name i saw

[granite oxide]

Just eating a quiche and drinking coffee, checking up on a few things 🙂

[abstract aspen]

was it another message that popped up? lol

[tawny plover]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-si-gif-23929138

[hasty roost]

hadnt had a qiche in quite a while. i prefer some cheese heavy ones.

[hasty roost]

yea. for another discord server. probably a NSFW one

[round mauve]

Damn that was some quick action by the mods.

[teal bramble]

this time I saw nothing, mod game stronk

[tawny plover]

i gave it the middle finger 😛

[surreal sierra]

We have the plank on standby for any and all scallywags

[abstract aspen]

Something is fishy today..ive never seen so many things just pop up like that lol

[hasty roost]

well. in only a few days we've gained 20-30k members

gonna happen

[granite oxide]

My wife prefers loaded mushroom, Swiss, Bacon and a touch of tomato n sweet peppers, I prefer a Mix of cheeses, Bacon, loaded with sweet onions and habanero peppers 🙂

[abstract aspen]

well not that it pops up. more that it's taken down almost instantly haha

[hasty roost]

both of those sound quite good. but i would always toss in extra cheese ontop of those x)

[violet latch]

I rather have a pile of sausage links

[hasty roost]

ah. lol.

[tawny plover]

asmon is a lich king; when he tried the game he instilled more than a handful of bots its my working theory

[surreal sierra]

Bleh. I do not like mushrooms

[granite oxide]

Each one has 3 cups of cheese lol they loaded XD @surreal sierra You and me both

[hasty roost]

perfection then.

[violet latch]

Now I'm hungry

[abstract aspen]

depends on the cup size

[hasty roost]

large B. lolz

[hasty roost]

sometimes you make sacrifices for the funniest jokes

[violet latch]

One cup is one cup or 8oz

[tawny plover]

must be at least C to be seen 😂

[hasty roost]

https://tenor.com/view/marin-crying-marin-kitagawa-my-dress-up-darling-my-dress-up-darling-season-2-mdud-s2-gif-10374253551883832074

[teal bramble]

tiddles living up to his name

[subtle blade]

Lich King? I thought he was a Roach King?

[hasty roost]

something i have found to be more annoying than it should be.

needing the bonfire to make decorations. can't place a new bonfire due to being too close. and if i move my bonfire to where im at, it's out of resource chest range :c

[tawny plover]

the 2 are basically synonymous

[granite oxide]

Now you guys don't start going over the edge with the comments-, once it starts down a path it usually keeps going, so please be nice 🙂

[tawny plover]

i thought resource sharing was all within the bonfire range

[abstract aspen]

of course! I got that name for a reason after all haha

[granite oxide]

Yeah I had that issue but I solved it 🙂

[crisp nest]

So just the three Islands right now right? No secret areas discovered yet?

[inland solstice]

it's super fun! I have now been building on this demo for 130.1 hours haha

[tawny plover]

i swear i read it as tidtees everytime

[abstract aspen]

Omg yes "that item only makes sense in bonfire range" that's a lie! It's to make stuff look good!!

[granite oxide]

I choose to have my storage in a central spot and then the bonfire could be moved in 4 directions to just overlap storage

[hasty roost]

like, i just grabbed what i needed for this part and move my bonfire. but it's just past the line of "yea, i shouldnt have to do this"

[teal bramble]

check out his actual username 😂

[tawny plover]

shiet

[hasty roost]

i'm working over a rather large space and im starting to reach the ends of what a single bonfire can do

[subtle blade]

Have you tried a bonfire dating service?

[inland solstice]

just move bonfire around ❤️

[tawny plover]

OH there should be a bonfire range extender - a smaller bonfire 😄

[granite oxide]

Yeah, I'm hoping we get ways to upgrade the size ove it, like the Dune upgrade let you expand for example.

[abstract aspen]

shhhh

[subtle blade]

I need a Gondor sized bonfire

[raw yew]

we need friends fires to overlap as well

[inland solstice]

oh god giving Dune vibes, let me just use all our money day two to make the max base extenders lol

[stable solar]

is it the developers for windrose that created this channel?

[tawny plover]

https://tenor.com/view/stilgar-goon-part-2-gif-3581758696321028367

[raw yew]

I gave up on Dune after the umpteenth time I lost vehicles to sand worms

[inland solstice]

for the demo (don't think it will work with EA you can just move the bonfire around

[hasty roost]

so, im actually curious.

Do we know why we can't overlap bonfire radius? Unlike Palworld or Once Human. we dont seem to have limits on things like workbenches or structures. and with no PVP, it's not really encroaching.

the only thing i can think of is whatever the Worker system is.

cause if bonfires could overlap, you could have them share the chest storage

[granite oxide]

Yeah we can move it around. We talking about the bonfire being out of range of storage when you move it, so makes having to manually grab mats to build with 🙂

[quasi wyvern]

Is the demo still playable after next fest is over?

[tawny plover]

https://tenor.com/view/alice-in-wonderland-rabbit-bunny-all-roads-lead-to-rome-ai-gif-9366438096140066598

[teal bramble]

Yep, available untill Early Access releases

[inland solstice]

ah yes well one of my building's on each side is now filled with wood/stone/fiber lol

[coral shoal]

does your base get attacked?

[quasi wyvern]

Thank you!

[hasty roost]

no, but hostiles can wander into it if they aggro you

[stable solar]

did developers of windrose create this server?

[tawny plover]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-peralta-i-wish-brooklyn99-b99jake-gif-23668724

[granite oxide]

The bonfire area is also a buff zone. The drowned from what I've seen also will not spawn in the Bonfire range. There is a worker system , and they have to be inside the Bonfire range. So if friends had their bonfire overlapping with yours and you both had workers - I could see a potential conflict, but I do not know if that would be the case as to why you can't or not.

[tawny plover]

now im seeing a coop version of this game where its like civ

[forest iron]

Awesome job game looks great

[granite oxide]

Demo will run until Early Access and demo is ruffly only about 5% of what will be in Early Access. Exploreable area of Archipelago in demo is only about 2.5% of what will be in Early Access. Early Access will be announced in the #│announcements when it is time. See the latest post here #│announcements message from Yar_Master. As far as price and packages, that will most likely follow Early Access Release info.

Also, characters, items and buildings will not transfer to the Early Access, it is part of the demo – different client, different game builds. So enjoy playing the demo for now until that time 🙂

Y'all all please participate in the Building Contest! #│announcements message <-----

[severe breach]

#💬│windrose-chat message we know. And that's exactly because sharing storages was causing problems.

[ancient charm]

what do you think the estimated/guess of the price is?

[hasty roost]

awesome, i didnt happen to see that. appreciate it!

[ancient charm]

can't be $20, too low, and $65 makes it triple AAA?

[raw yew]

Just add a little to the steam wallet each week and you will be ready.

[rapid spoke]

30

[teal bramble]

not sure where their data comes from, but on egdata it's currently showing as $29,99

[ancient charm]

so between 30-40? sounds good

[teal bramble]

but we need a physical collector's edition though

[stable solar]

Does Windrose…

have player-driven or dynamic world systems where actions impact the economy, law, or factions?

have interconnected systems (bounty, crime/law, economy, reputation, factions)?

have a living AI-driven world that can influence trade, conflict, or world states?

have repeatable endgame loops built around these systems?

[tawny plover]

legendary lieutenant pendant 😮

[tawny plover]

maybe crosswinds did those features seem more mmo flourish-able

[wintry nimbus]

it will probably be a similar price to enshrouded or Palworld I think

[stable solar]

@tawny plover:)

[static sedge]

Maybe having the bonfire upgradeable later on for bigger cities would be an option

[tawny plover]

or like you get 1 MAJOR city but then youre limited to OG bonfire standards

[rugged vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-wall-walking-with-dinosaurs-animated-gif-17300171

[tawny plover]

imagine sot style powder kegs though for complete island cultivation - in 1 felling swoosh

[stable solar]

Well if they dont have good in depht mechanics i fear that this game is going to be just a monotonous game with no depths. some type of players will like it but others not. This game doesn’t bring anything particularly new.

[tawny plover]

this is what happened to valheim- sure some dedicated fans but thats only 'so far'

[granite oxide]

At this time - no. Those are extensive mmo style mechanics that would take a great deal of time and resources to implement (and potentially years). Windrose is a Survival co-op. Not saying that to some extent that something may be added to some extent at some point. But definiitely not on the radar as of now that we are aware of.

[stable solar]

@tawny plover yeah sadly the company made HUGE amount of money and the game(according to me) has nothing to bring in the long term!

@granite oxideok.

[wintry nimbus]

this seems like valheim with naval combat, which im extremely down for

[tawny plover]

total shame because once devs see things like oh its so good or cant wait for more; thats the end of the line- its money time

[subtle blade]

Who does?

[stable solar]

@tawny plover99% or somewere close is only thinking about money. Stupid players are making developers extremely rich instead of waiting until a game is finished and can show whats really under the hood!

[distant hill]

Masive companies like EA, Bethesda, Ubisoft

Still no release date I am going nuts hahhaha

[tawny plover]

too true; ive been free to play since i got out of highschool 😂 no gravitas though so im just clukkin myself

[tawny plover]

more like fool release amirite

[stable solar]

@subtle blademy question is more like: "IF" you have one or several of these mechanics then send me answer 🙂
I asked because games today doesnt give so much more then old shool multiplayer games. Meaning its boring in the long run. Games doesnt survive that long(some do)

[subtle blade]

I'm not sure that I really want any of those features.

[viscid loom]

same

[tawny plover]

might be too costly too especially as a persistant system

[olive sentinel]

Those sound like things in a Single-Player RPG

[viscid loom]

yep like fable

or elder scrolls

[stable solar]

@tawny ploverwell if you can be satisfied with free to play games then "sheers" !

[olive sentinel]

Fable, KCD2, Elder scrolls etc

[stable solar]

or was it cheers

[tawny plover]

the free to play eco systems are really thriving; they understand simple loops and dont overreach their capabilities ^~^

but people are dumb so they make bukoo bucks

[stable solar]

having those features bring alot more smarter and satisfying gameplay

[tawny plover]

satisfaction is like beauty; in the eye of the beholder

[stable solar]

@tawny ploveryeah they making huge money of that!

[tawny plover]

warframe is a beautiful example; they went free to play and let the community create the cosmetic content while they expanded ACTUAL content - B-E-A-UTIFUL

[hasty roost]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-sip-frieren-sipping-tea-book-gif-1603575268151458399

[stable solar]

@tawny ploversmart!

[tawny plover]

if we can push for something like that i dont honestly see how it can fail it should be EVERYWHERE

[fast orchid]

Ahoy!!

[little pike]

was wondering, in the same way you can ascend the regular weapons, and there is a place to ascned ship things, did anyone try to ascend the boat stuff

[hasty roost]

Yoha!

[tawny plover]

yes but its not in the demo- seems the same ladders are there for all the gears but for now its limit to the personal affix's

[little pike]

rad thanks... was going to be pissed if I could have done one and didnt... asend the cannons mateys

[stable solar]

@tawny plover sadly developers only goes as far as they "need" to get the money. Handful of developers that actually have passion for making a good game instead of much money.

[tawny plover]

yeah the worst part about it is the truely passionate DO run out of money because the exploration of extents is both expensive in cash and in time

[ancient charm]

MMOs dont even have these things, MMO's aren't good, there are 1000 ways to make them better. I am glad windrose went away from MMO.

[stable solar]

yeah sadly

[tawny plover]

they have them but in functionally deceptive ways

[ancient charm]

MMO is always a quest grind, skill grind, or level grind. All three are horrible basis for a game.

level and quest grinds are the worst.

[little pike]

if they get into boat design in this and different things like cutters and Ship of the Third rate, etc. would make all of it more fun

[tawny plover]

it works great for runescape; and lots of people like having a checklist of to-do's they can tackle casually

[little pike]

I think randomizing the hiding places of quest items might also be solid

[trail portal]

Does crafting pull from all chests, no matter where they are, even other islands?

[ancient charm]

in most MMOS you basically play to get to the end game, and then you can enjoy the game. so the whole process is a grindy trash you are trying to skip, so you can get to the end game and enjoy the game.

[tawny plover]

this is where my community cosmetic contention really shines 😛

[fast orchid]

Pulls from anywhere in bonfire range

[raw yew]

def random treasure, knowing exactly where op weapons etc are can be less fun.

[limpid canyon]

If it’s within the bonfire range yes. Anything material you put in them will essentially create a pool of crafting materials you can use regardless

[stable solar]

@ancient charmtrue that MMO is PURE GARBAGE!!! so tired of that . One of the things im sick of to is 4 player co op instead of much higher player base. Would be so satisfying with a PVE pirate game were u can atleast be 100 players and trade and help each other out with a really filled world with AI content and satisfying repeteable content that has "some" world impact etc.

[surreal sierra]

Would love a feature where bonfire range depends on comfort or amoutn of crafting benches or something

[fast orchid]

I thought it did

[tawny plover]

roach kingdom would go sooo hard

[raw yew]

maybe the more ships flags you get from naval battles increases base size

[edgy saddle]

+1

[surreal sierra]

Does it not? I thought it stayed the same and higher comfort just gives greater rested bonuses

[clever lichen]

You havent played a mmo for long or different mmos 😉 endgame is the grind for gear (and boss kills) and then be reseted after 3-6months. the pre endgame is rushing to max level/starter gear. I probably have never felt really "finished" in WoW with my main char. (okay... wasn´t a real CE raider, clearing the stuff in under 1-2 months) ^^

[fast orchid]

Time to science!

[little pike]

I would be more interested, from a content perspective, if they added things closer to history as events to complete. I have tons of old literature on piracy and how it affected global economies as well as profiteering... think about adding all the pirates as well as the political officla s advocating for piracy

[surreal sierra]

I dont get my pc back from the tech wizard until tomorrow so I cant test it myself

[ancient charm]

a pirate mmo i saw, is P2W and has $8000 dollar ships? and you can't exit your ship. so there is no gameplay as a person on land doing anything. So all crafting and economy stuff is done through menus? do i want to play a game? or do i want to play the menus?

mmos often fail at finding meaningful ways to simulate crafting and make it fun. I kind of personally want an MMO that goes more toward vintage story design with the crafting.

[hasty roost]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

Jeezee and Seaweaver right now

[abstract aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/hp-harry-potter-snape-always-stare-gif-17584635

[granite oxide]

They stress tested 20 internally and the mod group tested a smaller number, so numbers are possible. But we currently do not have dedicated servers and it needed a bit more optimization and polish. So for the demo it was kept to 4. What those numbers will be on Early Access we and the Dev's have no idea at this point. So will just have to wait and see. It is quite possible to have higher numbers for sure, but 100 that is on mmo scale size for some games ( instances) etc. and very unrealistic.

[ancient charm]

sure you grind gear at the end game. but you cant do that with a level 1 char, and naked? you need gear, a guild, and max level to even start to do that. which means you are just trying to skip massive amounts of a waste of a time game, to get to the good stuff at the end of the game.

[fast orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/the-sea-is-always-right-rings-of-power-the-sea-sea-numenor-gif-8104610207434941891

[tawny plover]

nations could be formed as 'special' servers who host excessive numbers of people; while the p2p mesh is the 'open seas'

[little pike]

realistically, unlocking "Tales" should allow unlocking of certain materials in order to both compete and complete in those scenarios\

[stable solar]

@tawny plover 🙂

[fast orchid]

Ok but I actually might not be right now, I believe Jeezee is right in that comfort doesn't actually extend the bonfire range, sad

[little pike]

like the Bahamas secretly funded the Jacobite revolution against the rules of their foreign government. the local magistrate allows piracy toward the end of that lol

[tawny plover]

https://tenor.com/view/stoplooking-atmeswan-billy-madison-adam-gif-19920354

[granite oxide]

Comfort definitely does not extend the range - it is just the time you have for your buff when you leave the bonfire range.

That rested buff.

[solid wing]

I loved the premade house and would love to see more. It made things a lot easier during my start at the beginning.

[clever lichen]

the leveling and start gear process is in a lot of games very short (if it´s not a new char or new game)

[tawny plover]

tbh the games so easy rn i dont even notice 'buffs' except for the passive healing from when i goof my spam

[raw yew]

maybe each mini boss you kill increases bonfire size

[hasty roost]

i just loved how they each were both like "but wait, i thought it worked like this? maybe you're right" so politely. the meme felt perfect lolz

[stable solar]

@tawny ploverhavent really watched roach kingdom but i read little about them.

[subtle blade]

Amen. Premades are god-tier QoL

[ancient charm]

yeah but leveling in itself is the problem. it creates pvp imbalances. in a game with open world pvp, it means level 60 max level people are ganking level 20 players, 3 vs 1, and the level 20 player has basically no chance at winning, even when they try to balance the game to slim the gap, because of the level gap.

[granite oxide]

It is possible for another, however due to build mechanic being a big part of the game, that is just a simple starter. They want people to engage in building their own structures 🙂

[ancient charm]

and gear also creates pvp imbalances.

[granite oxide]

It will be more impactful later on in the game 🙂

[tawny plover]

idk about any watchable roach kingdom - but thats what id assume asmons special server would be assuming these expanses are viable and realistic

[ancient charm]

MMO's are trash to me. i would design an mmo not to be so gear, and level dependent. if i wanted good pvp.

[abstract aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/neo-matrix-therapy-gif-23997178

[raw yew]

hopefully the best player buildings can be made into prefab for everyone

[tawny plover]

but buff managing is caustic - like the skill tree / talent tree is very limited in personality

[sonic patrol]

honestly I love the idea that this game does not have PVP in it, because then it will just become another ark/rust situation where people dont build to make pretty builds but rather just put together fast combat structures which are ugly to look at

[tawny plover]

boop +2 boop +3

[granite oxide]

Would be cool if we could copy a build, but I do not see it being a thing at this time.

[abstract aspen]

personality? youre not supposed to go out with the skill tree smh.

but nah i know what you mean lol

[ancient charm]

a good pvp game, is one where a naked beginner player can give a veteran with gear, who played 300 hours, a hard time. imo. and most MMOS don't design their systems or games like this. also too much instanced garbage. and then the quest grind is a whole other problem.

i remember playing an MMO where at level 20 i had to stop the orc war, and i was at their war camp doing quests, and then at level 60 in the story we stopped that war, but i could still see level 20 characters going to that camp doing the same quest. so much immersion breaking, and bs.

[tawny plover]

gear and level should be a story relative thing - also lvl resets in that regard should be per area

[sonic patrol]

imagine being able to save a blueprint which could be replicated by yourself, or you could "sell" the blueprint within a shop

[hasty roost]

PVP optional. Off by default is what i like. would i PVP in Hytale? probably not but it's an option.

here? much more lightly to have fun fights with friends but wouldn't be a full PVP experience which can be unfun if unchecked

[tawny plover]

souls-like pvp IS peak cant change my mind

[stable solar]

@tawny ploverWell if developers actually created a game from their hearth, advertising the content as it is(hopefully something really good) then i guess no one would feel the need to watch youtubers describing the game. A company that doesnt reveal anything in depth of a game is mostley pure fricking garbage.

[abstract aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-reaction-headsmack-ugh-frustrated-gif-5015289

[fast orchid]

Mooooooooooooom They're starting the pvp topic again

[rancid sun]

pvp discussions

[hasty roost]

stealing that.

had some people make me feel that way ast week in another discord

[compact epoch]

What do think about PVE with PVP zones?

[ancient charm]

we're sort of talking off topic

[abstract aspen]

take it. it needs to be used more haha

[tawny plover]

really enjoyed PlanetQuest's development team; they gave info on their project YEARS before it even had a demo - super good interactability

[fast orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/pirates-des-caraibes-pirates-of-the-caribbean-jack-sparrow-voler-steal-gif-19449719

[sonic patrol]

honestly cant wait to see what sorts of builds people make, id love to see full blown port towns and various other port-royal type structures

[hasty roost]

damn. gotta talk about crosswinds

[ancient charm]

pvp zones typically not good, they just divide the community. better to have opt into pvp, or pvp is allowed anywhere except towns but add in a reputation system.

[stable solar]

Lol take pax dei. Oh may what a bunch of liars.

[surreal sierra]

Indeed. Anyone talking about Windrose and NOT Crosswind will walk the plank

[sonic patrol]

id rather the game focus on its core identity rather than a half baked "we are only adding this to shut people up" pvp feature that is not well balanced or fundamental to the core experience

[tawny plover]

i didnt buy that cause i knew itd be like the mojority of building games// also im broke

[hasty roost]

such appropriate behavior and politeness from a gentleman!

[zenith pawn]

pvp zones in a game that is not mmo...? just no
pvp can be on dedicated servers

[granite oxide]

I really don't wanna break into heavy discussion on pvp, but that direction fails too, a fully geared Iron gear and weapon player could be destroyed by a player swinging around naked with just a club and a grapple, only because he was good at griefing in Last Oasis. That also is not good pvp. lol I hope there will be a server toggle for those that want pvp for their server later to satisfy that crowd once they hopefully have that opportunity. But I am very happy with the pve aspects and really miss what we had in the Alpha. Looking forward to all the new stuff we still haven't seen 🙂

[granite oxide]

yes agreed on dedicated servers for sure.

[surreal sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-elmo-fire-fire-elmo-elmo-fire-pirate-elmo-pirate-gif-7591584827691600121

[amber vortex]

You have no idea how bad it makes me feel to see a veteran described as 300 hours 🥲

[hasty roost]

yea. some of the "wishes" can be solved through dedicated servers. like player count and PvP options. and if mod support is there, even some features that the devs decided they didnt feel fit THEIR VISION of the game can be added

[amber vortex]

I have 1300 hours in Foxhole and I’m still not a veteran there
I have over 2000 in war thunder and I’m still not a vet there either 🥲
At least, I don’t consider myself one in these games

[signal grove]

so i sailed too deep into an tier 3 zone i tought no ships around no biggie welp ship destroyed sudenly out of nowhere what do i do know i dont wanna loose all my stuf / progression

[tawny plover]

timelordes

[sonic patrol]

I dont think this game should directly have "mod support" but rather have toggleable options built into the game rather than the need to mod the game just for custom server features

"Windrose 100x resource server" when

[amber vortex]

Did you not see the warning on the screen saying “turn back or be destroyed”

[stable solar]

@tawny ploverwell pax dei is a total flop. Grindy as hell. totally empty world. their idea was to make the players fill the world with buildings etc. LoL - it also cost money to have some area to build on. The game is still today werry much garbage

[ancient charm]

thats because the game was probably designed around gear seeming like it should help you more. so when a naked guy killed the full iron guy, it seemed off. but if you design a game where gear is just a bonus. it gives you a little boost, but is not meant to make up for a lack of skill. the dynamic becomes different.

for example you can have a game where the body has 6 pieces of armor, helmet, body, 2 arms, 2 legs. then each piece of armor protects from 3 attacks before it breaks. now it's a different type of game. and you design it with chivalry type combat. you could also tie in magic, by allowing the armor to have enchantments that can protect 1 time against a spell or element. so if a dragon throws a fireball at you, your armor instantly 1 time protects you, but the spell enchantment is worn off for a second time. etc.

i don't know if thats the best implementation, but it's an example at least of gear being a supplement, and not a deciding factor in pvp. you're still mainly going to rely on your weapon aim, movement, stamina, dodge in a chivalry based physics based combat game.

[granite oxide]

if you lost your ship you just repair it at the wharf

[signal grove]

i can imaghine the amount of mods this game will have tho like galiens from pirates of the carebian games etc

[fringe fable]

https://tenor.com/view/voldemor-harrypotter-mechant-sorcier-magie-noir-gif-12511017 the game mode who shall not be named

[signal grove]

so il need to built a warf than

[tawny plover]

https://tenor.com/view/pour-drink-pouring-alcohol-respect-gif-9283896756814937503

[granite oxide]

It was designed around skill, but the fact that a tier 1 club made with a couple sticks could destroy the max tier gear was just a wee ridiculous.

[raven dagger]

think your looking for an mmo if your looking for this

[ancient charm]

there should be no max tier gear, everyone gets relatively the same gear too. but you can customize its look. or get different looks.

[stable solar]

@tawny ploverY. If you watch the video the developers made - the interviews they had you can see what a true Liar looks like!

for pax dei.

[amber vortex]

Is this Ark?
Because ye I’ve seen fresh spawns spend like 5 minutes crafting stuff only to knock out a full metal player and burn them to death on a beach 😐

[tawny plover]

i knew they were liars from the asmon vid- i dont need extra 😛

[compact epoch]

So, lets say 90% of the map was PVE and all islands was PVE. The only areas that are PVP is some ocean areas for ship battles you guy would still have a problem with that?

[stable solar]

@tawny plover:)

[granite oxide]

If that was the case nobody would be able to handle the pve environment - you can't have both at same time and have balance successfully. Either you focus on pvp, or you focus on pvp.

[edgy saddle]

Creative Mode > ||Cheat Engine||

[lost jewel]

Yes, build a wharf and you can upgrade and repair your ship

[ancient charm]

no because the pve works like the pvp

[sonic patrol]

I do agree, the gear should fit the playstyles rather than a "get the max tier gier and sit fine at the end"

higher tier gears should be heavier meaning you are slower, meanwhile lower tiers allow for faster movements

[ancient charm]

the game i just described is physics based combat, and souls like. really. the monsters would be deadly.

[stable solar]

@compact epochno. but i dont see how it would be satisfying having that small portion for pvp. to what reason!

[signal grove]

the warf is the shiprights worksop or i dont see anything named warf

[sonic patrol]

why is bud just pinging rather than using the reply feature

[ancient charm]

slower is just usually a death sentence in pvp. pvp is mainly about movement.

[compact epoch]

To let players who want to battle, battle

[amber vortex]

This is the problem Dune is having right now though

People would only PvP there for the fight
But most people would get bored when they don’t actually gain much and end up losing more fixing ships

Dune made the PvP zone smaller and pretty much all the resources there can be farmed in PvE so there’s not really enough incentive to go there 🤷‍♂️

[granite oxide]

That was what Crosswind was going to be - something like that, but would also mean incorporating MMO elements into the game, also taking years longer in development time focusing on making systems mesh before being able to focus on content. If it goes in, the only way I see it happening is on a dedicated pvp server toggle.

[raven dagger]

SoT

[lost jewel]

It should be at the top right of the crafting section of the build menu

[ancient charm]

never played it? is that what they do?

[tawny plover]

maybe hes used to twitter or youtube- its works; let him do him 😛

[neat yarrow]

yeah sea of thieves do this quite well

[stable solar]

better!

[hollow nexus]

That’s not good implementation of PvP, it just makes people stop playing games. Imagine investing hard time into a game and get fully kitted out only for a dude in underwear to come with a stick and annihilate u.

This is what happened with Atlas. A game that revolved around big companies and where players of the largest companies were practically invincible. They would go around without any armor, build contraptions around to trap u, and then slowly kill u. Point is, if a random no gear player can destroy another with full heavy gear… then what is the point of the gear? Might as well not continue to play if armor is practically useless. On the other hand, if the other person has armor and is near invincible then being a new player is pointless, might as well not even bother continuing to play.

[raven dagger]

pretty much, all weapons the same and cosmetics

[signal grove]

under utilities?

[sonic patrol]

every player has the same tools and weapons available to them from the start, the only thing that seperates a new player from a skilled player is the time spent on the seas and the skills they learn and aquire

[ancient charm]

your missing the point, your taking what i said and applying to a model of game where gear is designed to make you win.

[stable solar]

yeah im just used to ping. but guess i need to change that habit now

[compact epoch]

You can't compare this to Dune it's not even close.

[lost jewel]

Go into the build menu, and select the top option where you would craft the workbench and such. The wharf is at the top of that menu next to the bell

[tawny plover]

meh; either way works; other bro is just tidal locked to his own function

[hollow nexus]

No u should re read what I said, the same goes for naked players beating up on armored fully kitted

[plucky mauve]

Does anyone in here know the history of clay? Or, where I could go to learn about the mining of clay in the 1700's what it was stored in?

I just tried to do a google search and got every result I could ever want about buying clay pots, storing clay pots. but not one single frigging answer on how RAW CLAY was stored in or around the 1700's. So, I am now coming here before I punch a wall out of sheer insane frustration.

[neat yarrow]

gear isnt always designed in a way to make you win, its part of the progression journey

[ancient charm]

there is 2 types of pvp games.
there is counter strike
and there is wow.

[stable solar]

hehe

[signal grove]

i dont have it unlocked yet than

[ancient charm]

im not going to have 10 convos at once, with people who dont read what i said either 😛

[sonic patrol]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceramics_of_Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas
here ya go

[lost jewel]

Follow the story you should be close

[tawny plover]

thats why you gotta embrace the inner schizzo sycophant and just reply to what ya see as you see it

[plucky mauve]

i feel like i just got hit with google again.

[signal grove]

the only 2 i need a bigger bout and rescue crew are complete

[keen dove]

What is the super bottom right item and how do I find it? It is the only one I have not found, this is a screenshot from a YouTube video

[lost jewel]

Need crab shell, boars head

[signal grove]

oh the seafarers quest line?

[distant hill]

Kill 40 azure Dodos

[amber vortex]

I’m not..?
I’m comparing the concept you described to Dune

[lost jewel]

Yes

[keen dove]

Ah ok thanks

[distant hill]

The Boar has the same one

[acoustic flume]

A duel system like Everquest has would probably satisfy a lot of the people wanting PVP

player A types /d (name)

player b types /d to accept the duel or /dec to decline the duel

Combat commences immediately and ends with either a death or /sub (submit) from either player.

[keen dove]

I killed 40 boars, probably did not kill 40 azure dodos

[lost jewel]

I’m pretty sure you need to build items for the fetch, or upgrade them, something like that

[raven dagger]

its rng drop, could be 4 dodos could be 400 just keep going youll get it eventually

[plucky mauve]

I dont want to know ANYTHING about WHAT CLAY IS MADE OUT OF. I very specifially ONLY want to know what clay was STORED INSIDE OF.

Example, in todays world, pottery clay is often stored in PLASTIC BAGS.
So, in the 1700's, when plastic was not possible... WHAT IN THE NINE HELLS DID PEOPLE PUT RAW CLAY IN TO STORE IT?!?!?!?!?!?

Barrels? LInen bags? Crates?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[hasty roost]

-# basically the PvP discussion ends up just being summarized as:

-# there's no one true way to do pvp because each game is designed with certain ideas in mind where some methods simply dont work at all and or, the methods it does try dont match the expectations of either the devs and or players and thus get modified to such a state that either it's not worth doing or it's forced. the closest thing I have seen is having both an NPC modifier and a player damage modifier on gear to help keep them seperate, but it doesnt solve the core issues PvP can have in general which varies based on the system, game emchanics and identity of the world.

[ancient charm]

you need a reputation system if you do open world pvp.
there are only two good ways to do pvp engagement.

• opt in by the player
• open world entirely enabled pvp anywhere except towns.
  for both really it's still ideal to have a reputation system.

[keen dove]

I prefer coop PVE instead of PVP

[ancient charm]

ultima onlines reputation system

[tawny plover]

dark souls invader system was peak pvpve though

[fast orchid]

There are two PVP players inside you, one is dying to take a nap, the other, is hogging the cozy blankets

[sonic patrol]

large wooden tubs, casks, or boxes. its clay dude, nothing fancy needed for it

[abstract aspen]

well since clay can be reused easily. i guess it was just stored as is in pots/ baskets underground. if you let it soak in water you can make it moldable again. something like that is what pottery people use in case one of their projects dont end up the way they wanted to.

[keen dove]

Don't flame me, never played a dark souls game😅

[raven dagger]

kind of hoping windrose doesnt do pvp at all, just creates "discussions" like this and not having a consensus of "this is a good system"

[compact epoch]

I was talking about small zones, not the entire deep desert. Dune forces you into PVP, this doesn't have to be like that. PVP would be optional for when players get board.

[ancient charm]

Karma was designed to regulate combat between players. Simply put, unjust killings, thievery, and the making and applying of poison adversely affect a character’s karma. Dispatching evil creatures, completing quests, and killing murderers benefits a character’s karma. Karma can be calculated by the following approximate formula:

When fame is mentioned in reference to monsters, it is a commodity. Just as with gold, the tougher the monster, the higher the monster's level of fame, and the greater the amount of fame earned by the character who kills it. All creatures, both animals and monsters, have a predetermined amount of fame. A Balron has a fame of Level 5. Its actual fame amount is 24,000. A Dragon also has a fame of Level 5, but its actual fame is far less, at 15,000. It is suggested that a character that is seeking fame should note such differences.

[tawny plover]

yeah for me its more like one needs a nap and the other needs a friend 😂

[raw yew]

def don't want pvp. Friendly fire maybe

[acoustic flume]

what on earth does Bob's reputation have to do with me smacking him in the chops because he chopped down my favourite tree?

[plucky mauve]

SWTOR tried that initially, and people simple left the PVP behind because it ende dup sucking too much.

[tawny plover]

i can join your world and sink your boat already - not to mention i can demo yer house

[hasty roost]

they're already getting their PVP fix in this chat. lolz

[topaz quarry]

Honestly, I'd love separate animations for doing an unarmed strike near an 'ally'.

[granite oxide]

@ancient charm I think the pvp discussion only going to get more heated. Time to let it die out. As it stands for Windrose - this is where it is #💬│windrose-chat message
<--- as stated by the Dev Benji, we will let it go at that.

[topaz quarry]

Smack on the back of the head, a slap across the cheek, etc.

[amber vortex]

But Dune doesn’t force you

At least, not anymore
All the resources are pretty much farmable from PvE areas
Edit: and this is annoying all of the PvP players because they are running out of people to gank

[raw yew]

friendly fire, as in weapon damage.

[tawny plover]

nah they give us the cheek smackin theyll be so rich we wont even see an expansion

[plucky mauve]

@sonic patrol@abstract aspen THank you for the replies. I simply can't believe something so simple google would not give me one simple result for. When narrowed google down using " marks, it simpy told me "there are no reuslts". which, we all know is BS. ANd, yes, admittedly, i freustate overly easily. joys of brain damage from the military.

[topaz quarry]

"Dude, you're giving me the legendary rapier?!"
dap, followed by a slap on the cheeks

[hasty roost]

oh! i know what we need when in build mode (outside of free cam or 1st person)

the ability to move the blueprint closer or further away from you.

[signal grove]

yhea

[fringe fable]

Damn, you must have stuck in this rabbit hole for a minute. Looks like covered baskets or barrels, anything to seal in moisture

[tawny plover]

https://tenor.com/view/pats-butt-peyton-manning-good-game-gg-gif-5380325

[stable solar]

Also i dont understand why developers do combat so bad ni games. Would love to have simplicity and stil soulslike combat like ghost of thushima. That is one of the best combat mechanics i ever played.

[silk oxide]

Ya'll still on about pvp? :P

[plucky mauve]

as a closed beta tester for dune awakening, trust me. the stupid PVP discussions have been wild since before the game openly released. it never stops. every single step the devs make, irritates both sides. I gave up on dune and went to better pastures.

[hasty roost]

-# go play GoT then?

[raven dagger]

thats those games focus though, hows the building?

[plucky mauve]

@fringe fable TY. much appreciated.

[topaz quarry]

Honestly though, having separate animations for being unarmed near an ally would be sick, as a psuedo emote system.

[subtle blade]

Windrose combat isn't bad fundamentally. AI just needs work, and a larger toolkit.

[tawny plover]

combats funny to 'get right' and the nature of logistical systems doesnt mesh well with the creative fruition of outside the box thinking

[zenith pawn]

for me elden ring had the best combat :P

[topaz quarry]

That, and also the fact that we can't eat or drink while sitting down at a chair, or how chairs can't be too close to the table due to clipping.

[stable solar]

building?

[silk oxide]

unrelated but that's a good name sir

[tawny plover]

nah the 'targeting' is too clunky; if i use the rapier it will miss the guy 1/3 times just cause i dashed into his hip

[stable solar]

y i actually liked elden ring

[sonic patrol]

something that I just thought of which I think would be cool

is that if you build a large enough base/port town, that youd actually show up on the map as a settlement, and youd be able to have your own shops in which you could sell blueprints youve saved, rare items youve made or collected, and just various other means of player interactions

[surreal sierra]

Oh god. I am SO BAD at Elden ring or souls like in general

[raw yew]

I haven't used dash at all.

[raven dagger]

elden ring, souls, tushima etc... is all about combat, no building, no survival etc... id expect those games to have elite combat i wouldnt expect that from a survival game

[tawny plover]

the backstep is SOLID

[topaz quarry]

How'd you navigate the chargers?

[stable solar]

correct me if im wrong but combat in windrose makes u stuck/locked in animations i think

[subtle blade]

It sure would be nice though... 😅

[surreal sierra]

the ONLY time the backstep is useless is charging boars lmao

[raw yew]

I'll give it a go.

[raven dagger]

i mean i hope, just dont expect

[zenith pawn]

after like 600+ hours in that game I can dodge everything, except the last few bosses XD

[topaz quarry]

I mean, I haven't noticed getting stuck; Everytime I see the enemy swing while I was mid swing, I could parry it in time and cancel the initial attack.

[zenith pawn]

bru that game is really good, I have like 600+ hours and I still wanna play XD

[tawny plover]

no- same 'step' protocol but in the left or right direction -- can confirm dashing into doesnt work out

[stable solar]

well it would be more satisfying having combat like that instead of this 10 different keys to press on etc.

[abstract aspen]

i just jump over them lol

[subtle blade]

I played through Elden Ring once, and I only have Lord of Frenzy and All Achievements left to get...

But I can't be bothered to go thru it again. 🤭

[topaz quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/rocket-rocket-raccoon-marvel-marvel-rivals-launch-gif-4520051977673764871

[tawny plover]

thats the vertical direction 😛

[raven dagger]

it would but theres probably a reason noones made one yet

[stable solar]

yeah i stoped playing when i was at the blood boss or whatever hes called

[subtle blade]

Mogh

[plucky mauve]

what a lot of people miss about games, is the limitations of the game engines that make the games worse. Some are better for combat. others for building. Some are a midrange that allows varying degrees of elements.

To better understand what you are asking about, you should find out what the limitations of the game engine for a specific game is. That will give you an indication why one thing or another is overly good, overly bad, etc.

Pretty much everything about a game is build on top of the game engines code. There is a lot more to that. Some of which is modifying the game engines code to achive something. Which has verying degrees of results. An example of a bad rusult is modifying the game engine for Fallout 4 to be used with Fallout 76. Fallout 76 got "flying" add to the game. The bad result is that flying object lag out the game and cause stutter.

Does this, albeit in a vague way, partly help your question?

[zenith pawn]

mogh? hes my favorite :P

[tawny plover]

i didnt even buy elden ring cause im too broke 😂 which sucks cause i spent well over 5k hrs in ds-ds3 just hosting fight clubs

[stable solar]

well i dont know how much harder there is to make a combat like ghost of thsusima.but yes there is a reason i guess hehe

[topaz quarry]

Honest to god,

Personally, I wanna see my char ragdolled Harder.

Me n my buddies died laughing when we were ill equipped for the 2nd island, and my body got launched past the captain with a sliver of HP.

-# Yes. This is ginger Trevor Phillips.

[tawny plover]

https://tenor.com/view/arcade-cloud-arcade-cloud-gifs-trevor-phillips-underwear-gta-v-gif-9975369

[stable solar]

To better understand what you are asking about, you should find out what the limitations of the game engine for a specific game is - will do 🙂

[abstract aspen]

man looks like he cant believe he lost a fight

[stable solar]

mogh yes

[sonic patrol]

bro set us back 7 evolutions

[tawny plover]

https://tenor.com/view/natural-devolution-simpsons-walking-crawling-gif-17916427

[topaz quarry]

I can make him into an Emoji. Yeah, he was chugging a bunch of smoothies for the following nights.

[sonic patrol]

"me grug, grug best sailor, grug best at helm"

[tawny plover]

i want a ghost crew

like phantoms hoisting sails

[sonic patrol]

grug crew

[raw yew]

mods will prob give us cosmetics like that

[plucky mauve]

Just him Grog Beard

[stable solar]

i know the best engine anygame can run on. game that ruined "life is feudal" 🤪

never played a worse mmo then that

[topaz quarry]

Tagger of Ale, at your service.

[sonic patrol]

clean up the edges, sloppy work /j

[tawny plover]

nono i want it not as a cosmetic - but as a cannon event (pun not intended) like in the story were forced to die and we recruit our first 'Damned Soul'

[topaz quarry]

Entire purpose of this guy was "I'm not smart, but I defend captain."

Ended up being a great captain and carpenter in the end:

https://tenor.com/view/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-black-flag-gif-3863983

[fringe fable]

Launch me onto orbit like the trolls in Skyrim

[tawny plover]

https://tenor.com/view/lmsh-letmesoloher-elden-ring-elden-ring-meme-legend-gif-25495201

[topaz quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/piccolo-aura-piccolo-aura-aura-farming-aura-farm-gif-4796219510675252498

[vivid sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-mrbean-bean-mr-bean-holiday-mr-bean-holiday-movie-gif-3228235746377647455

[lime cobalt]

are their triangle stone bricks? I want to make a roof

[tawny plover]

in stairs; yes kind of

also- just noticed - we glow

[lime cobalt]

oh! sick

[topaz quarry]

Yerp; There's lore to it in the demo through the notes.

[tawny plover]

https://tenor.com/view/reading-sign-cant-stop-me-no-one-can-stop-me-gif-13921932

[abstract aspen]

need that stuff in braille so i can read it

[spiral swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/book-cat-lore-cat-reading-reading-gif-8424606799553805726

[topaz quarry]

Idk why, but I have a feeling that we may actually encounter 'Cursed' items in the full game, ngl.

[tawny plover]

i gave up on the lore when i realized me and the protagonist share mortal wounds

[cerulean grove]

My Skull-Base is comming along quite nicely, but somehow i feel somethings missing :\

[subtle blade]

Mermaids, it's missing mermaids

[cerulean grove]

that, and pirates with wooden legs 😄

[tawny plover]

thats sick; should build like 1 or 2 more of those but then a skull & bone one like 3x as big

[cerulean grove]

sadyl, the stability-system wont allow me to 😄

[subtle blade]

Man, why you putting so much workload on the poor laborer?

[cerulean grove]

still 9 days left before the building-contest ends, yay 🙂

[vapid pilot]

any easy fix for the issue thats stopping certain players being able to connect to a hosted game?

[frail charm]

yes play singleplayer😂

[vapid pilot]

....window number 2 please

[frail charm]

jk check #1298615153209638942 maybe there's a fix

[subtle blade]

They are actively working on collecting data in order to resolve connectivity issues, but no resolution has been announced yet.

[plucky mauve]

Here's my build so far. Not sure while it looks for foggy. (i keep forgetting about my dual screens. -.- )

[hallow night]

Is there any way to hide the HUD to make some nice pictures?

[tawny plover]

? should do it

[tardy flower]

PSA: dont loggout with your ship pressed up against a peir.
the screenshot doesn't capture it but it was extremely violent and caused my 5090 to drop to less than 5 frames while looking at it. 🤷

[strange lagoon]

and Krakens!

[tardy flower]

yes, press / on the keyboard

[plucky mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/jacksparrow-jack-sparrow-captainjacksparrow-captainjack-captain-jack-gif-22081901

[hasty roost]

ey. here we are. already got the first unsolicited friend request for today from a rando on here!

[spiral swallow]

someone wanted to join the Pirate Queens crew 😄

[tardy flower]

put them on blast? the hangman will have a fair collection of boots by the morn'

onto making a third world just to strip of resources. Greta Thunberg can eat it.

[hasty roost]

this person sent at least three messages in the discord so nah. just gonna ignore it. the other ones ive gotten were all people who joined but never said a thing

[tardy flower]

yeah see like if it was people actually having conversation or assisting / joining server, wouldn't be werid.

[worthy pelican]

Will there be storms, sea monsters, mermaids, treasure maps, underwater exploration, buried treasure, parrots, and monkeys?

[tardy flower]

storms yes. treasure map is in the demo but not fully flushed out yet. unsure of the rest

[spiral swallow]

You have buried treasures in the demo and treasures in hidden rooms. So would believe it's gonna be more of those in the full game.

[tardy flower]

there will also be giants of some sort... I data mined a little out of curiosity 🤷

[worthy pelican]

I really hope the rest is in the full game. I also wish we could make gunpowder in the demo.

[hasty roost]

like, this person asked "when EA was". "finished demo; cant wait for more" and "thats why i wanted to know, so i can clear my schedule"

paraphrased of course.

and thats it. was messages from yesterday but the friend request was like 10mins ago

[spiral swallow]

How many days since last asking for EA and full release: 0

[hasty roost]

EA releases Marsh 1st

[worthy pelican]

So far I am satisfied with what is in the demo and am enjoying the gameplay loop. How much progression is in the demo?

[shell wolf]

In the 1700s, when plastic buckets and airtight tubs didn’t exist, potters still had plenty of ways to store raw clay. Here’s what they used:

🪵 1. Wooden Barrels & Tubs

Large wooden casks (like beer barrels) were commonly used.

Clay was packed inside

Often covered with damp cloth, leather, or wooden lids

Sometimes lined with waxed cloth or pitch to slow drying

Barrels were already widely used for food, ale, nails — so clay fit right in.

🪨 2. Stone or Brick Pits (Clay Cellars)

Many potteries simply dug lined pits into the ground.

Clay was packed into underground storage areas

Covered with boards and wet sacking

The cool, damp earth kept it workable for long periods

This was common in places like Stoke-on-Trent, the heart of English pottery production.

🧺 3. Cloth & Sacking

Smaller amounts were wrapped tightly in:

Hemp sacks

Linen cloth

Damp canvas

Kept moist by periodically sprinkling with water.

🪵 4. Wooden Chests or Boxes

For workshops and smaller studios:

Clay was stored in simple wooden boxes

Covered with wet cloth and a board lid

🪨 5. Direct Ground Storage

In some rural areas, clay was:

Stored as a mound on packed earth

Covered in straw + damp cloth

Re-wedged when needed

Since clay naturally comes from the ground, keeping it cool and damp was usually enough.

Important Context

Plastic isn’t necessary to store clay — just moisture control.

Clay:

Doesn’t rot

Doesn’t spoil

Just dries out

Even today, traditional potters still store clay in damp pits.

[cyan veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-delonge-blink182-wtf-meme-what-the-heck-first-date-gif-25383351

[hasty roost]

oy vey

[spiral swallow]

where did you find that? Not in the #│announcements

[rose shell]

That looks like it's right out of ChatGPT

[hasty roost]

-# reread what i said

[spiral swallow]

bah sorry. Did take me while since English is not my main.

[hasty roost]

hahaha. you're good!

[austere thicket]

Bro I just can't with this game. I can't wait for EA.

[plucky mauve]

@shell wolf ty

[tardy flower]

hmm, and here I am just getting hate-DMS from someone who's losing his marbles going on about how the devs are infallible and fully aware of every issue and video games have been made for decades so i'm basically stupid for reporting a duplication glitch and insulting their intelligence because this guy blowing up my inbox has done programming. just. geeze.

[lone salmon]

I guess my question is probably answered somewhere in the FAQ or other sections but i thought asking here might be alot faster to get a reply, (and maybe engage with the community a bit)... Is there an estimated release date for the game? And in the meantime, is it worth keeping the demo installed (new stuff becoming in the near future available in it to see), or what I saw in the demo that is it for now? (Asking ofcourse because the demo was not nearly enough to satiete the hunger the trailers and the demo awakened in me) 😛

[hasty roost]

well, the person didnt message me. but the person sent those messages here in the server.

but the 14 hours gap between their only messages and a random friend request to me is bleh.

[tardy flower]

to keep it short, no release date yet. demo will be up until early access.

[zenith pawn]

geeze is actually spelled jeez or jeeze :P

[hasty roost]

@hallow night

probably the best "this" emote i've seen 😮

[subtle blade]

I personally am super hyped for every low fantasy element they are willing to include.

[hallow night]

Haha, right!

[subtle blade]

The best parts of PotC were often the supernatural parts.

[tardy flower]

TO THE GALLOWS WITH HIM!

[spiral swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/hanging-hang-noose-hangmans-gif-13478290

[tardy flower]

🤷‍♀️ 🤷‍♂️ 🤷

[hasty roost]

i agree. i love the fantasy aspects mixed with some realism.

[plucky mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/down-periscope-pirate-may-god-have-mercy-on-his-soul-gif-15076988

[subtle blade]

What a horrible way to die...

[lone salmon]

quite unfortunate then.. :*( I will have to make do with what is available at the moment. I have to say, havent felt like this playing a pirate game since i played Corsairs Gold back in the day...

[tardy flower]

wait, fantasy with some realism, OR realism with some fantasy?

[subtle blade]

Either or lol

[rancid night]

i've just been sailin the seas in this game listenin to the shanties

[zenith pawn]

I personally hope there will be more fantasy elements. Like superatural ships :P

[hasty roost]

well, since Windrose is an "Alternate Age of Piracy". I would have to say Fantasy with some realism

[spiral swallow]

Like Flying Dutchman as an event

[subtle blade]

Alt history is one of the coolest genres

[tardy flower]

its a very shared sentiment! I implore you to check out the building contest! it goes until march 11th and as someone who LOVES to build in games like these, the more people build, the more likely the devs will put more effort into the building mechanic (like things to build with)

[zenith pawn]

nah. disney gonna sue them. something else, like skeleton or ghost ships.

[hasty roost]

i would say "for real" but that wouldn't be accurate to alt-history xD

[rancid night]

then rare might get involved

[plucky mauve]

I find that dutchmen tend to fly quite well with the use of trebuchet's.

[zenith pawn]

rare...?

[rancid night]

sea of thieves dev

[lone salmon]

where can i see this contest?

[tardy flower]

does anyone have the scoop on what the map will be like? randomly generated seed type I understand, but otherwise, like how many islands we are looking at? variation in island size? (i visited the out of bounds islands and they are like 10-15 times larger than the demos current 3)

[hasty roost]

disney doesn't own the flying dutchmen. Windrose can do their own take on it.

it's public domain

[tardy flower]

go to #│announcements

[naive imp]

Trying so hard to get in to something else whilst we wait it's not the same guys 🥲🥲

[zenith pawn]

bru... skeleton/ghost ships arent owned by them. its used in many other pirate games.

[rancid night]

if they use the dutchman model from there movies then yeah i think they own that

[zenith pawn]

good to know, then yeah its a cool idea

[rancid night]

ah did not know that

[dapper smelt]

Disney only own the PotC Flying Dutchman, not the Flying Dutchman in general.

[plucky mauve]

@zenith pawn i think Viva La Dirt League has their eye on you...

[hasty roost]

the other person said nothing about using disney model from the movie.

[lone salmon]

thanks!

[zenith pawn]

😂

[rancid night]

was just pointin it out wasnt sayin they did

sorry

[plucky mauve]

the real question is, are you the party MVP

[subtle blade]

Yeah, we were gonna use SpongeBob's Flying Dutchman instead!

[rancid night]

lol

[zenith pawn]

I have no idea what u mean XD

[hasty roost]

that terrain is nuts

[amber vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-flying-dutchman-shanghaied-leedle-lee-gif-16181451

[rancid night]

lol

[rancid night]

did u teraform the terrain?

[amber vortex]

only if it comes with this as a shanty

[tardy flower]

no its the out of bounds islands in the demo

[rancid night]

oh

[soft badge]

Dang they need to fix this floating materials thing. Hate taking down a building and have to make 14 ladders to gather the sparkly air magic

[subtle blade]

Welcome to the Highlands!

[rancid night]

wait.....dont the game sink ya if u get too far?

[hasty roost]

a lot of times, leaving the world and rejoining lets the game update the item locations

[tardy flower]

it does. I found 3 ways to break that mechanic from working.

[subtle blade]

Gamers always find a way

[rancid night]

true

[worthy pelican]

I noticed the pirates respawn on the pirate camp. Is that normal.

[rancid night]

if u have a spawn point there then i think yes if not then i got zero clue

[tardy flower]

for the record, there is nothing worth anything on those islands. just trees, rocks, some random bananas. no sulfur, no iron, no caves / points of interest. also no mobs or pirates or ships

[rancid night]

makes sense so u cant progress past what they want u to see in the demo

[subtle blade]

It is normal. That's how you get your gunpowder.

[tardy flower]

yeah they are just to make the horizon pretty. which makes me wonder if their size is for that, or actually reflective of the size of islands in the real full game.

[rancid night]

that is a good question.....huh now i want the game even more now

[rancid night]

oh....he was talkin bout the enemy camps my bad

[tardy flower]

to give more context, the map is at the same zoom level for both of these screenshots. the large island is as big as all 3 if they were connected!

[rancid night]

okay feel like theres big stuff in the works

[subtle blade]

Probably pretty close to the real size of Highlands Biome islands I would bet.

[rancid night]

is this north of the demo islands?

[tardy flower]

they randomly spawn in different locations per world generation, so on my map it happened to be kinda north-north-west

[plucky mauve]

so.. it IS possible to get to more than just the 3 tiny islands?

[rancid night]

ah....hmm now i wanna see it meself

guess its time to break the boundaries

[tardy flower]

it really isnt that great. I tried to use it to harvest stone at an increased rate, but it wasn't worth it and I lost more time trying to get there / running around looking for stone.

[smoky pollen]

is there any updates on the connection issues yet? keep trying to play with my friends but dc within 10 minutes and then can never reconnect again

[rancid night]

ah

[tardy flower]

yes the devs said you have to stop having friends, then the issue goes away

[rancid night]

nvm then guees i can wait till launch

[subtle blade]

Essentially, connectivity needs work, so if you want to play with friends best to wait for an official fix to be announced, or wait for Early Access.

[tardy flower]

I could dm you how I got out of bounds but seriously, there is nothing there its just barren so it really isnt worth your time

[subtle blade]

That's the long and short of it

[rancid night]

im good ill just continue sailin and listenin to the shanties

[smoky pollen]

unforch

[tardy flower]

these ones had low graphics on so they arent as pretty but here ya go

[ancient charm]

did you sail to that large island?

[rancid night]

cant wait to explore all this in the full game

[ancient charm]

what is the message that you get that says you will die if you continue? is it meant that blackbeard ships spawn and chase you?

[rancid night]

no thats the current game boundary

imagine minecrafts instant death wall

[ancient charm]

so how do you get to that island if its inside the game boundary?

[tardy flower]

yes

[tardy flower]

no your ship just instantly dies and then a few seconds later you die.

[rancid night]

glitchin the game

[ancient charm]

i was trying to sail to some mountains but couldnt because of the boundary

[tardy flower]

I broke the boundary 3 different ways

[rancid night]

havent broke it once but have noticed a few minor bugs like tree stumps movin in the ground

[ancient charm]

i assume one way is using the schooner or something?

[tardy flower]

schooner? the little boat?

[ancient charm]

yeah

[rancid night]

wait thats called a schooner? i thought it was a dinghy

[ancient charm]

no idea, i just used a word lol

[tardy flower]

i was in the little boat in that screenshot because i accidentally sank my large ship 😿 so i summoned the dinghy to rescue me and take me the final stretch, that was my first time touching the land before i perfected the method.

[ancient charm]

schooner is a thing though probably a boat in between what we get and the dinghy.

[ancient charm]

are these objectives doable?

[rancid night]

ah

[ancient charm]

can you do those objectives? they give loot?

[iron robin]

how did u get there?

[tardy flower]

they are not objectives. they are markers I placed. the flags are bonfires I put down just in case I died. the bottom one is a fast travel point i put down. the question mark was a marker to mark how long I had distance wise before my ship would sink.

[lone salmon]

we can sail that far out?

[coarse ingot]

It's most likely a cat boat / sailing dinghy

[tardy flower]

there are no points of interest on these islands at all.

[ancient charm]

im looking forward to seeing tortuga. even this island mcsantna sailed too is probably tiny by comparison.

[hasty roost]

i wish i had a hanging lantern as a lighting object the demo. probably is one in EA. was just like, "damn, this would be perfect"

[rancid night]

wait is the multiplayer bit workin or is it broken right now?

[hollow ingot]

I saw a clip of someone using a shovel, how did he got it ?

[hasty roost]

you need both a workbench and a sawhorse within your bonfire (tbh, could just need the workbench. but i didnt noticed it there until after my sawhorse was made)

[ancient charm]

has anyone tried to match the islands to the world map

match the islands we found to the world map?

is it the tiny islands on the top maybe?

[rancid night]

looks like the caribean islands

[hasty roost]

so, the islands are procedurally generated so unless the devs make "hard coded" islands, they may never match the world map

[rancid night]

maybe Cuba?

[tardy flower]

they are randomly generated in different patterns per world creation. they do not currently match any sort of map like that

[rancid night]

think they meant the loadin screen map

could be wrong tho

[hallow sparrow]

Any one no where the chest is for the travellers camp on the first island is? i cannot seem to find it

[rancid night]

next to the tree that has a red cloth on it

[ancient charm]

yeah it is

[hallow sparrow]

Nothing there for me

[rancid night]

i really do love this game cause of small moments like this

[tardy flower]

each world generation picks a random "islandId", likely based off what time the world was created as the seed.

[hallow sparrow]

@rancid night

[rancid night]

underground

[ancient charm]

oh i kind of wish we were getting real world map islands, mixed with some procedural gen, since i am sure in the real world, there are 200+ islands around cuba, dominican republic, and puerto rico/bahamas.

[rancid night]

u gotta dig the chest up

[worthy pelican]

Thank goodness our first ranged weapon wasn't a bow

[hallow sparrow]

ahh ok makes sense i dont have a shovel no worries thank you

[rancid night]

k hope that helps

[tardy flower]

too few and far apart IRL. its the same problem as space games like no-mans-sky. planets are also way to far apart IRL. so the game fibs it and makes them much much closer so the game is actually fun.

[hallow sparrow]

it does massively

thank you

[rancid night]

np

[runic heath]

is the tutorial complete when u do all the basics in the solo world? if so im good to host a world right?

[subtle blade]

Nah, we can't read into it that much.

Especially because it's evident when you generate new worlds that Island designs are not the same from world seed to world seed

[hasty roost]

crossbow would had been better than a bow. not the best due to humidity for either, but at least was usable before flintlocks

[rancid night]

the tutorial is the starting fight on the burnin ship

[ancient charm]

sad that it's all proc gen, they could have mixed proc gen for smaller islands, with having real world main islands.

You're basically wrong.

Puerto Rico has several smaller islands and cays, while the Bahamas consists of over 700 islands and cays. The Dominican Republic shares the island of Hispaniola with Haiti, and Cuba is the largest island in the Caribbean, with numerous smaller islands nearby; Jamaica also has several smaller cays and islets. Overall, the total number of islands in these regions is significant, with the Bahamas alone accounting for the majority.

[runic heath]

yes then u get to island and start basics and building

[rancid night]

the game would probabaly lag MASSIVELY if they were to do that

[ancient charm]

700 islands = huge proc gen potential there. while you can get the main islands accurate to real life.

[worthy pelican]

Salt 2 gave me a bow as my first range weapon, so glad this game is doing us right at the start!

[runic heath]

right?

[rancid night]

u can host right off the bat once u load the world

[ancient charm]

they dont need to proc gen all 700 islands?

[rancid night]

true....i hate slow mode cause i type way to fast

[ancient charm]

i am saying they have good buffer/reason to proc gen, and then have the main 4 islands, cuba, dom republic, jaimaica, and puerto rico. and maybe 1 or 2 medium islands that are around those all accurate to irl.

[hasty roost]

like. would i had complained about a crossbow or a repeating crossbow? definitely not as long as pistols and such were still a thing. would had been interesting to see crossbows lol

[runic heath]

okay bc my friend started a world but no one can join and when i looked up reasons it said bc the host may not have fully completed the tutorial or there are service connection issues

[ancient charm]

they can proc gen anything else

[subtle blade]

Well, I need to validate this in the history books, But if I am not mistaken, Caribbean pirates still made use of bows and crossbows, slings and blowguns as well

[ancient charm]

they could just have a limit on island size though, cuba is huge. so if they cant get cuba, they can't really do it

[rancid night]

i was able to host a new world right off the bat....so might be server problems

[ancient charm]

my guess is the biggest island in the game would be like puerto rico size, if we're lucky

[soft badge]

never seen that before

[runic heath]

maybe his is bugged so me starting new one could solve 🙏

[rancid night]

that might do it. worth a try either way

[tawny plover]

https://tenor.com/view/double-rainbow-what-does-this-mean-gif-11850694

[lavish orbit]

Can you actually get to other islands apart from the starting 3?

[rancid night]

without breaking the game....no....glitchin it yes

[runic heath]

def worth i am loving this game so far

[crystal cargo]

Have the devs commented on FSR/DLSS support at all? I assumed that's coming before early access? Only having a resolution slider is definitely not ideal.

[lavish orbit]

rip :(

[ancient charm]

you can find a way there, but nothing is there except vegetation

[rancid night]

same even after i've completed everything im just sailin around listenin to the shanties

[lavish orbit]

Shame, but for a demo the game is great

What most companies would come out with early access slop, Windrose done it in a demo

[ancient charm]

for some poor people/kids the demo will be the game

[hasty roost]

blowguns yea i remember those. i dont recall slings personally

and i wouldnt be surprised about bows. i just know both bows and crossbows weren't optimal due to humidity.

[rotund plinth]

Can someone help me? The game won't start.

[rancid night]

its possible that yer pc might not be able to run it

[plucky mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/offense-texas-gif-23053045

[soft badge]

Can anyone tell me what that is that happens when I hit the "i" button?

[hasty roost]

the keycap gets pressed down, triggering a sensor which the computer receives as a command

(it should open the inventory)

[real igloo]

This is me right next to him, my neck being ragdolled lol.

[tardy flower]

question for all: whats the thing you built that you're most proud of so far in the game?

[hasty roost]

my unfinished contest build so far

[rancid night]

nothing yet im more of a sailor than a builder

[tardy flower]

screeenshots plz

[tardy flower]

I'm a sailor in real life (10 years us navy) and im builllldddddinnngggggg

[rancid night]

i salute ye

but yeah im literally just sailin the map atm listenin to the shanties cause i love shanties

[spiral swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/flyby-sailby-hms-surprise-surprise-sailby-surprise-flyby-gif-17988391

[dark folio]

When will a game actually come out?

[tardy flower]

not decided yet. likely in few months early access. will be posted in #│announcements and talked about everywhere. steam page will be updated respectively.

[candid kite]

Why can I build in this zone but not in the other one? Is there a level requirement or a restriction?

[rancid night]

really tho ill probably build some crazy fort once the full game comes out so i dont lose my progress

[tardy flower]

figured out how to do this accidentally and I kinda love it.

[knotty birch]

I the way it just glides through the water is kinda unconvincing

[dark folio]

I see because I so wanted a full game and would probably love customization colors and emblems on ships and flags

[hasty roost]

@tardy flower

[spiral swallow]

I would love to put my own logo as an emblem on the pirate flag.

[knotty birch]

I mean people have been waiting for that demo forever so be content with that too

[tardy flower]

because your building materials are in the first zone, not the second. the bonfire connects your chests and lets you pull from them while inside that zone, but not from other zones.

[dark folio]

Same

[latent forum]

release this week 🙏

[knotty birch]

especially those who didn't get the keys

[wide stratus]

RELEASE NOW*!!!

[rancid night]

lol

[tardy flower]

#1 build contest winner should get a steam key for the game

[hasty roost]

that's what she said?

[wide stratus]

HUH ? :p

[latent forum]

https://tenor.com/view/tears-for-fears-shout-let-it-all-out-80s-music-scream-therapy-gif-16261270

[bitter hound]

Probably been asked but how long is the demo? Until end of Steam event?

[latent forum]

feels like its been 84 years i need iron pickaxe asap

[uneven pier]

The demo is temporary?!

[knotty birch]

someone's dense lol

[dark folio]

What type of ships do you think will be added? I’m expecting galleons and frigates

[knotty birch]

the enterprise

[acoustic flume]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-monkey-gif-17161736773310556283

[latent forum]

YASS add monke to game!!!!

[rancid night]

once the game comes out the demo will be removed

[hasty roost]

from @tardy flower the other day.

*unconfirmed in EA

[spiral swallow]

millenium falcon

[uneven pier]

Oh oh thank god okay so we have some time??

[olive shell]

Are you getting fatal errors while you do this?

[tardy flower]

😮 someone listens to me!

[rancid night]

indeed

[latent forum]

spaceships in game?

[bitter hound]

Gotcha thanks

[dark folio]

I KNEW IT—- unfortunately I see no sailing battleships, corvettes, or something

[knotty birch]

"or something"

[hasty roost]

i do not understand what you mean. did you mean to reply to me?

[uneven pier]

I’ve known some games that the demo only lasted 2-3 weeks and then the game came out months later, yall had me scared I’m having too much fun

[dark folio]

I kinda say that often- don’t mind me

[hasty roost]

well yea. like a dolphin or something

[latent forum]

i play a demo thats been out for like 13 years 😄

[dark folio]

I’m kinda hoping for like, battleship galleon or frigate kinds

[tardy flower]

demo will be available until early access, then demo will vanish and as of now, your builds and stuff will be gone too.

[dark folio]

That too

[uneven pier]

when’s early access? Unsure right now? I think I read that somewhere

[latent forum]

speculating summer ish

[hasty roost]

so, the demo wouldn't probably be automatically deleted i feel like. since the EA is a seperate build and "game". you can make sure it has a different installation destination. so that you could go back and play the demo if you want

[latent forum]

i dont think it will be put out until its ready to do so

[hasty roost]

you wouldnt be able to download the demo anymore, but if you already have it installed, you should be good

[knotty birch]

not buying if there are no dreadnoughts and destroyers

[hasty roost]

c'est la vie

[uneven pier]

Will it be an open early access or would there be a sign up? And if so how do I make sure I get it haha

[rancid night]

if thats true why do i feel like folks will try and force load their demo save games into the full game?

[dark folio]

Made with wooden?

[thorny pawn]

They have per-ship variants/customizations as well

[white locust]

buy on steam

[neat yarrow]

will probably be a price tag involved

[sleek sparrow]

Under 50 euro is fine

[tawny plover]

resource count - you were out of range from the storage

[uneven pier]

OH oh oh I’m dumb sorry I misunderstood I thought it was gunna be like uhh playtester type stuff okay so early access maybe MAYBE summer time ish

[near zodiac]

Games that are no longer available become unplayable usually. The only way to play the demo if it gets removed is to have it installed on a device you never connect online. But even that only works something like a month or 2, or maybe indefinitely if there is no DRM

[hasty roost]

probably will try regardless to be honest. lol.

[whole creek]

Yay for speed boats with guns. 🫣 So not a sailing ship game. Beautiful. And also, please give us boom control and wind...oh and coop crew. Otherwise it's just a shared single player experience. 🙏

[rancid night]

indeed will be semi funny to see how that ends up

[dark folio]

Love the title btw lol

[hasty roost]

like, i have a demo for a game that is about to hit 1 year old. and it's demo isnt available on the store page

[winter saffron]

where i can upload the pic from the buliding contest?

[near zodiac]

there is difference between having store page removed and game completely removed

[candid kite]

Can you send me a screenshot of what exactly I need to move or place?

[tawny plover]

put the stones in your pocket

[hasty roost]

oh, youre talking about if they "force you to uninstall it"

[tardy flower]

i thought htey said demo would become unavailable when early access is released

[near zodiac]

no, if the demo has DRM it just prevents you from starting it

if there's no DRM then guess it's free to keep playing even when unavailable

[tardy flower]

no just steam pulls it and it becomes unavailable to play anymore.

[faint pumice]

Hope we get bows and poison blow darts. Gotta roll a stealth archer

[near zodiac]

same happens if you try to launch a game you no longer own

[tardy flower]

you would have to preserve the game files and bypass steam (Very easy typically) and run it directly

[hasty roost]

well, that's a case by case basis i suppose. like if it has it enabled or not

[near zodiac]

yes, no way to know for certain which way it will go

[hasty roost]

oh, thanks! lol

[near zodiac]

I just tried the demo for a few hours... don't want to go too far so I'd have a mostly fresh first experience with full game. Any news on when the game is coming out?

[hasty roost]

-# looks at my collection of cracked games

yea. i should be fine LOL

[near zodiac]

Well name checks out 😂

[quick sage]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-leaf-vibes-vibing-sleeping-cat-gif-17297041570420202318

[hasty roost]

even got virtual boxes for some games and EMUs for others

[near zodiac]

I'm just glad that steam has managed to encourage the release of more demos. Just speculation from my part but seems like releasing a demo for next fest ect. is a good way to gain visibility

[hasty roost]

about to hit 80hrs of Windrose!

oops. didnt mean to reply

[round walrus]

OMFG Early Access NOW!!! ROFL, this game is a blast, got to play coop with my kids and we loved it

[honest plover]

Slacker

[hasty roost]

thats only 16hr a day of windrose playtime LOL

[rancid night]

hey is the multiplayer still workin or is it bugged?

[honest plover]

see my previous comment..

[hasty roost]

ive been able to do some multiplayer to get resources gathered by a friend. had them visit my build earlier also

[rancid night]

thx

[visual pine]

Mp works. Been playing with 4 people

[hasty roost]

your nautical miles may vary though!

[honest plover]

Since you are ok with Piracy ... duping is very easy if you take a min to think about it

[ancient charm]

you dont think we can move player save data and world over to the ea game?
or that someone will work out a patch to do this?

[near zodiac]

I'm just glad I finally found a game that is somewhat similar to Valheim. I'm kind of surprised it took this long... not the same, of course, but the basic survival mechanics are similar. Food buffs instead of starvation, sailing to explore the world, extensive base building mechanics ect.

[hasty roost]

i dont like duping in survival games. and its against the rules for the build contest i believe anyway

[ancient charm]

its a piracy game, stealing and cheating is allowed

submission rules should be a) submit others best work and pass it off as your own to win. most convincing stolen property wins!

[fluid jewel]

Omg....omg....omg , this is THE game one been waiting for ...so cool ...Arrghh...a bottle of rum ❤️

[viscid hornet]

Hi guys, game does include second biome or not yet? Im stuck with my friend and we dont know what else to do

[dark folio]

Of course!!

[ancient charm]

im sad i will have to grind everything again. i have 4 purple weapons, and level 5 with fully upgraded gear feels so much nicer and easier for combat and killing everything.

[cinder grove]

https://giphy.com/gifs/space-marine-warhammer-40k-meme-grimdank-3fZk0iYz7PSNXuz9JM

[gray spire]

there are 3 islands in the demo

[honest plover]

I havent really felt the urge to build anything outside of function in the demo.. Really not many games bring out the builder in me the last few years.

[cinder grove]

valheim

[vernal basin]

no yet

[hasty roost]

Demo will run until Early Access and demo is ruffly only about 5% of what will be in Early Access. Exploreable area of Archipelago in demo is only about 2.5% of what will be in Early Access. Early Access will be announced in the #│announcements when it is time. See the latest post here #│announcements message from Yar_Master. As far as price and packages, that will most likely follow Early Access Release info.

Also, characters, items and buildings will not transfer to the Early Access, it is part of the demo – different client, different game builds. So enjoy playing the demo for now until that time 🙂

[viscid hornet]

yeah i get it but on the map it seems like 3 lvl biopme is there but something kills you when you enter

[ancient charm]

does windrose have similar valheim mechanics, where you need to support structure or blocks become red? i noticed a colour or somethings i was placing.

[honest plover]

It didnt .. I still just made functional boxes. I think the last game that really got me building was Starbase, but that was ships not bases.

[viscid hornet]

mine was valheim 😄

[near zodiac]

If you didn't make anything more than boxes in Valheim that is 100% on you. That game has the best building mechanics I've seen

[viscid hornet]

ay ay

[cinder grove]

https://giphy.com/gifs/treasure-possible-XQZ7fPt1MaXrW

[honest plover]

Velheim did have a nice building system. I do not disagree with that. It just didnt make me want to build.

[vernal basin]

id say more enshrouded than valheim tbh and yes, sturctural integrity is a thingbut it can be a bit strange at times lol

[cinder grove]

https://tenor.com/view/ls-dream-ganja-white-night-wub-wub-alien-alien-dance-gif-26271968

[near zodiac]

oh and Windrose world isn't randomly generated for each world? Pre made like in demo?

[hasty roost]

Procedurally Generated

[subtle blade]

Mmmmmmm shrooms... 🤤

[cinder grove]

https://giphy.com/gifs/trippy-alien-trip-XTIaJ7JDc6GZy

[near zodiac]

Hmm... maybe a little ritual would speed up how quickly it comes

[marsh stream]

Time to gather Stone & Ore.

[near zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/plug-shoebody-bop-ritual-cult-gif-383974090492735392

[green wigeon]

i have pizza pesto salami :3

[trim grove]

anyone of you guys build a mansion?
my "base" looked more like a warehouse

[surreal sierra]

Man I love Space King.

[cinder grove]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-grey-knights-gif-25209492

[hallow sparrow]

@rancid night just found it thank you for the help there! Took me a minuete but apprecaite it

[broken badger]

Is there an official end time/date for this demo?

[surreal sierra]

Nah. Current build sets don’t include the mansion stuff. In fact the build sets are very limited but a lot of creative people have built amazing towns and other stuff.

I started on an 8 point coastal defence fort before my pc died and this is as far as I got.

[surreal sierra]

Nope! Demo will run all the way up until Early Access launches so play as much as you want

[trim grove]

how long did it take you?

[broken badger]

Fantastic! Hopefully I get early access, too! :D

[rancid night]

np

[plucky mauve]

im tempted to go to the big island...

[surreal sierra]

Couple of days-ish? I couldn’t get the foundation right for the central keep or the stairs right. Went through 16 versions before I settled on that one.

THEN I went through 4 or 5 orientations of the outer walls before I got this current setup and it’s still not perfect yet

[quick umbra]

you should incorperate the slanted wall on the outside, that is how most were built during that time period

[rustic willow]

does this game have controller support? only asking cause im crippled lol

[surreal sierra]

I’d like to but with the way the walls are angled I’m not sure it’ll look very good. I’ll give it a shot when I get my desktop back though

[surreal sierra]

Yea there is controller support but as far as I remember it’s a bit limited rn

[plucky mauve]

BACK? what did you do.. make it walk the plank?

[rustic willow]

thanks for the answer much love

[quick umbra]

i would test inside and outside corners first and see, inside corner should be easy, its the points that concern me, to be honest

[surreal sierra]

Nah. It just started dying on me. Forced restarts. Crashes. Not fun. Had to take it to my local tech wizard (great guy). I’ll be getting it back tomorrow

[plucky mauve]

Windows 11, I presume?

[cyan veldt]

I wish we could change the range of the Bonfire, that range really loves to mess with ya builds

[surreal sierra]

Nah I’m leaving the inside walls sheer as I’m planning on building a small town type arrangement on the inside.

[surreal sierra]

Yep

[plucky mauve]

intel or amd CPU?

[surreal sierra]

All the problems started after It forced a windows update and I decided to update my nvidia drivers too

[plucky mauve]

wait..

[surreal sierra]

IIRC amd

[quick umbra]

i was talking about the outerside, the inside corner would work, the tricky part would be the outside points

[plucky mauve]

do you know which Nvidia driver you got? because THIS one caused catastrophic failures. https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpu-drivers/nvidia-rolls-back-its-latest-driver-update-game-ready-driver-595-59-reportedly-causes-fan-issues-on-rtx-3000-4000-and-5000-series-gpus

[surreal sierra]

Honestly may have been that tbh. But also the windows update was causing problems with cores being disabled or something. No clue

[ancient charm]

you dont think we can move player save data and world over to the ea game?
or that someone will work out a patch to do this?

i backed up my demo save just in case.

[plucky mauve]

and now you understand why im still on windows 10. lol

[regal gust]

the nvidia driver issue has nothing to do with being on w10 or w11 though.

[surreal sierra]

No. EA will be a different version and different game state. Best case your save will just not work, worst case it’ll corrupt the save and break your installation

[surreal sierra]

He just means the windows update specifically causing problems

[plucky mauve]

i was replying to the windows update specific message. thats why i linked that specific reply.

[surreal sierra]

Because it could be both or either

[ancient charm]

is the quest data separate from player data?

if so, then potentially player data could be transfered, if they dont make too many changes there.

[surreal sierra]

Both are tied to your character, not the worlds. So your inventory, progression and saves are all tied to the character

[ancient charm]

which means you could start EA with level 5, and some items lol

[surreal sierra]

I’d honestly recommend not doing that as again, different game states will most likely break something

But it’s ya life

I ain’t gonna stop you

[merry heron]

Who can i join the alpha

[ancient charm]

would be funny if the devs did stop us.
you join game with demo saves, and start the game in a prison for stealing someones identity.

alternate start 🤣

[vernal basin]

the only things i would love to take over is by 7 crates of...crates. i am curois for how much i can sell all of that junk xD

[surreal sierra]

If you’re specifically looking for a group to join then #1349751664843685990 is your best bet.

If you’re looking to play the demo then the link to the store page and free download is in the pinned messages.

The actual alpha was ended last year, only the demo is currently running

[ancient charm]

imagine if the game could recognize demo saves, not use them, and then alternate start you in a prison for stealing someones identity, and you make your new character there.

my ideas require too much dev time though

alot of rpg games/survival games have the cliche starts, beach, prison...

[regal gust]

yeah i just wanna start as a baby and grow up naturally.

[ancient charm]

you wake up on a beach, or in a prison, are the big ones. windrose is a bit unique in that you start on a burning ship, but it segway's to a beach.

[desert anchor]

Aye ! Luv the Demo
Glad i found Windrose watching the IGN event recently.

[ancient charm]

i like the house start, they are more rare

[ancient charm]

house start = you are at home, then something bad happens. home destroyed, you have to go on adventure, etc.

[honest plover]

There will be an ingame reward for playing the demo, so they could do a different start for people who played the demo or Crosswinds alphas, but I am not sure how worth their time that would be.

[ancient charm]

house start is basically LOTR

[regal gust]

(i did like the fallout 3 start) you did start as baby, and then you action had a small influence on your characters starting stat, then you went to be a kid with similar mechanic

[gentle sentinel]

This game is sick. That's all I got for now.

[ancient charm]

yeah sounds like a lifepath, determine character based on life experiences. thats nice too. would be cool if we got backgrounds we could add to our characters.

[obtuse hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-margin-awake-marginskyrim-gif-20155428

[ancient charm]

this is basically modified prison start

you are chained, and going to prison so...

[regal gust]

i also like the start of vtm Bloodlines.
(you out partying and then you get taken home by the vampire that turns you, and now the other vampire says the person that turned you broke alot of rules you have no idea is, and is killed, you then told to figure out alot of stuff... )

[ancient charm]

windrose = modified beach start

[honest plover]

Also dont forget the crashing escape pod start

[surreal sierra]

Nuh uh. You are going to be beheaded in Skyrim

No prison nothing

[ancient charm]

in fact all beach starts stem from ship wreck, you just dont get to play the shipwreck before hand.

[viral yarrow]

Lul skyrim, one of those games that will not die, hell my own game is over 350gb, with teh amount of addons i have thrown at it lol

[ancient charm]

Baldurs gate 3 = prison start, just it's on an illithid ship

[hasty roost]

so it's the Baldur's Gate 2 start?

x)

[compact epoch]

Any word on how many tiles the map is going to be.

[idle idol]

taking away the stumps makes it to stop spawning the tree from there?

[white locust]

trees do not regrow in the demo

[idle idol]

ohhhhh thanks mate

[viral yarrow]

I think they spawn back regardless, its just a very very slow process

[naive imp]

I keep seeing the same question but not seen the answer. Do we think it'll be slightlt harder to get the ship and how easy it is to upgrade stuff?

[plucky mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/merlin-merlin-bbc-madison-fire-merlin-merlin-merlin-stocks-gif-22781164

[cyan veldt]

Was hoping my leg stump would grow back but yeah nothing 🙈

[white locust]

Trees do not regrow in the demo #💬│windrose-chat message They will be farmable in EA

[cyan veldt]

I know lol

[vernal basin]

i dont think so considerign we get more things in general to play around with right

[viral yarrow]

I really hope they have a easter egg with the raft, at some point..."

I really hope they have a easter egg with the raft, at some point you get attached by a shark if yo uhavent upgraded to the large one, and it says "You're going to need a bigger boat..."

[plucky mauve]

I swear some trees have regrown in my game. there are times i go to farm wood, and i swear the place im farming i cleared several times before Then again, in my game, it took 4 days for stone to actually respawn. but it only spawned like 1 or 2 nodes. my game save is weird i guess.

[raven dagger]

Tried playing something else yesterday, anything, didnt last long 😆

[fringe fable]

My partner begged to be released from mining service after this weekend. I granted him shore leave to play other games for now 🤣

[raven dagger]

Should've keel hauled the mutineer!! 😆

[viral yarrow]

The biggest grip i have with this demo, is that i would really like to upgrade the axe, and pike, to make farming a little faster, its pain stacking slow ><

[nocturne cloud]

guys, it would be a good idea that if you die while boarding a ship you respawn in your ship, not in the tent, dont you think so?

[ancient charm]

farming seems okay, i am sure there will be upgrades to increase it. like iron tools etc. but if i want wood i chop wrecks on the beach, not trees really. and if i want stone, i go and mine copper. copper is fast with copper pickaxe.

wrecks on the beach, more fun, i can farm other stuff at same time, and i get nails. and potentially i feel like i get a lot of wood. i feel like im cleaning the beaches too.

environmentalist achievement? clean 1000 wrecks?

[nocturne cloud]

i have lost my ship wtf

[soft badge]

press k and re-summon

[nocturne cloud]

it doesnt appear

[hasty roost]

if you can't go to a Wharf and spend 20 wood to repair it

[soft badge]

go to warf and repair summon

[hasty roost]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-worf-star-trek-the-next-generation-concerned-gif-23575201

[soft badge]

lol

[nocturne cloud]

dont you think that it would be a better idea to respawn in the ship while borading instead of loosing it?

[ancient charm]

https://klipy.com/gifs/worf-son-of-mogh-has-some-tea

[soft badge]

I spek and spel goood

[ancient charm]

aww you beat me too it

[hasty roost]

i have it saved lolz

[ancient charm]

good humor we have 🤣

[viral yarrow]

My wee base is coming along, took a good 20 hours but its almost finshed

[ancient charm]

tbh i hope they add punishment settings. i would opt for ship is gone, and you need to rebuild it entirely.

[plucky mauve]

no thanks

[ancient charm]

but other people can have more casual play, settings would be nice

it was only 100 wood 25 nails, 20 coarse cloth, i dunno, seems easy to replace.

[viral yarrow]

First ground tavern

[ancient charm]

there could be mechanics in the game where that cost is paltry because of economy setups or farming improvements.

[viral yarrow]

barracks fro the crew

Captians quarters

And view from teh watch tower

[thick forge]

yo how long the demo is available for

[distant hill]

Until Early Access releases

[thick forge]

thank you

[hasty roost]

annoyingly, this took like 20mins to set up

but it looks good. lmao

[summer rover]

was about to ask the same quaestion thanks for the heads up my wife though it endad ar noon she will be happy to hear this

[soft badge]

Yea that is a good placement. You should see the thing I made for my crane lol, but hush hush till comp day

[summer rover]

nice work with the cargo crane

love the game can't believe we did not hear about it sooner played Windrose like a pair of game addicts this weekend 🙂

[viral yarrow]

God discord hates me, i still cant stream for more than a min and it kills the game ><

[desert anchor]

store all your provisions there so the Bears dont eat it 😄

[hasty roost]

ran out of wood again. think ima take a nap anyway though. still got 5,300 stone left until i have used 20k stone. rip me

[sudden whale]

Where do we submit for the building competition?

[soft badge]

It says in the building competitiion

[viral yarrow]

IS their much point to looting kills on ships, everything seems to be trade goods, nohtign i can actually use]

[onyx warren]

guys, are there any public servers?

[sudden whale]

I've read through it and I don't see where specifically it says where to submit, just the time frame

[edgy saddle]

You can see the channel right? @sudden whale @soft badge

#1476333974740664543 it is.

[onyx warren]

is there some community where I can play? or solo for the demo now?

[soft badge]

Yea I know where it is was telling him that the guy to contact, his name is in the contest news article

[silver rapids]

How I wish the co-op worked flawlessly for the game

[edgy saddle]

#1349751664843685990 or solo.

[onyx warren]

okay, thanks

[surreal sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-sabastian-legacies-gif-21836937

[cinder grove]

looking for fellow butt pirates

https://giphy.com/gifs/pirate-ship-lets-gay-up-this-uKtJQzjVn3FzGBJekP

[quick umbra]

so 3 islands til EA

[rancid night]

when is EA anyways?

[desert anchor]

https://klipy.com/gifs/johnny-test-treasure

Aye ! all of your Booty is belonging too me !

[surreal sierra]

We dont know yet. Youll hear about it in #│announcements before anywhere else

[rancid night]

ah mk

thx

[lethal comet]

I LOVE THIS GAME!!

[rancid night]

same

[lethal comet]

Light up those moats with underwater torches!

[sudden whale]

But we can't submit yet tho

[tawny plover]

how sick if we got mechanical chains and levers for moats and elevators

[olive sentinel]

Yes you can, you don't submit it to that channel. You send it to a DM

[ancient charm]

you know what i want

i want it that im sailing my ship, and my crew starts singing a sea shanty or pirate song.

and maybe even a mini game pops up where you fill in the words, and if you choose the right words to the song, you get morale boost. 🤣

[distant hill]

I think what we all want is the EA to finally drop

[ancient charm]

morale boost maybe makes the crew load weapons faster and do things faster.

[tawny plover]

id be a live service npc if it got me the game for free 😂

[distant hill]

Nah I'd pay whatever they ask to be honest hahaha
Game just needs to drop in EA tbh only so much one can spend in the Demo

[tawny plover]

yeah limited content is limiting

[ancient charm]

this game wont pop up during combat, but during sailing in general can end abruptly if combat begins.

morale boost could last 1 hour, and has dimished ability the further into the hour it is.