💬│windrose-chat

[zenith pawn]

no?

[spiral quiver]

that is certainly your opinion

it was amazing , and it did have open world pvp , if you got close enough to a player you could start a battle and it would instance the 2 of you so no one else could join , then you could choose to run out the pvp timer (5 mins) or battle it out

BUT , if you knew how to work the wind or your ship had a wind advantage the other guy would just bail out

[umbral bridge]

Nothing goes over sitting with 15 players on a gally with 10 missing planks and people are bucketing the Sh. out of it xD

I will be back for the next update and hope to get to play the beta

[spiral quiver]

THEN it had port battles which were 10 v 10 for contrl or contestation of a port

ok cya

[zenith pawn]

I like jeeps

[obtuse hawk]

Excellent game

[zenith pawn]

its a bit old tho

[fast orchid]

It still plays suprisingly well

[zenith pawn]

it does? ok
is it still a way to get it...

[fast orchid]

Yeah, just google

[zenith pawn]

just found the website, definitely gonna try it :]

[spiral quiver]

its still around? as what a player server? cause sony shuttered the offical ones yrs ago

if that's the case , I would highly recomend the devs here take a peek at that..it could inspire

[lofty basin]

👀

[spiral quiver]

in the end , the game devs managed it so poorly sony scraped it

holy crap

[zenith pawn]

I already have an account on their website, I dont even remember anything about making one XD

[spiral quiver]

trying to remember my login lol

[zenith pawn]

legit had to reset password XD

[spiral quiver]

i swear i remember it getting canceled

[zenith pawn]

YOOOOOOOOOO, DA NEWS IS EPIC

sorry for the caps I hope it not illegal

[spiral quiver]

sonys name isnt on it anymore lol , i dunno who the heck vision online games is

indie dev house?

[zenith pawn]

did u see the news?

[surreal sierra]

Bannable offence. TO THE GALLOWS WITH YE!!!!

[naive hinge]

Hi guys , finaly we have new ❤️

[zenith pawn]

nuuuuuu

[spiral quiver]

o yeah dude , wait till you ship battle

[ruby badge]

Whoever made the new artwork give them a rasie this GOES HARD!! 🔥

[surreal sierra]

The creative design is truly masterful

[earnest sparrow]

what cost btw?

[thorn pivot]

me walking into port after crashing the boat for the 30th time that day

[zenith pawn]

the devs just dropped the best news
Instantly clicked on news as soon as my discord pinged XD

[worldly garnet]

Prob AI no?

[thorn pivot]

im glad you guys are going buy to play

[thin storm]

How much do we rate crosswind is gonna cost

[grand light]

Absolutely not.

[spiral quiver]

screw it , cant make my pirate or american flag emoji so i'll add to jeezees lol

[compact burrow]

Awesome news!

[bronze bane]

HA NO THANKS

[spiral quiver]

hey yar , xmas beta for the holiday break?

[worldly garnet]

Glad to hear it

[winged wind]

ITS BUY-TO-PLAY NOW! Thank you, I genuinely think this is a better direction.

[frank pewter]

So happy you guys went the way you did. PvP and mmo sounds fun but buy to play and being a more normal PvE survival sounds much more stable and reliable for sure

[zenith pawn]

agreed, now Im lovin this game even more

[thorn pivot]

i wonder what enemies we will face if i dont gotta worry about other places now

[rigid trench]

Really disappointed in this news

[umbral bridge]

absolutely

[compact burrow]

Development costs money. Server hosting costs money, what you expect?

[last niche]

The devs gon have the funds to dev the game
I see that as an absolute win

[livid shuttle]

What was supposed to be before?

[worldly garnet]

When can we buy?

[agile tiger]

Yes! So happy its buy to play!

[frank pewter]

Yeah when will preorder go live?

[winged wind]

free to play with some other monetisation plan in mind

[spiral quiver]

omyfngod..was that the new galleon at the end?!!!

[thorn pivot]

free to play but that would require them to do a bunch of monetization

[agile tiger]

Now all we need is pricing. Best guess the 30 to 40 dollars that survival games usually go into early access with if they are sticking to that model

[zenith pawn]

ah yes, several people typing

[spiral quiver]

yar , i will pay double right dam now to play again lol

[livid shuttle]

30-40 range would be awesome

[ruby badge]

its good they went with buy to play

[red sand]

It’s basically just sea of thieves now and now btp not what was pitched real shame

[ruby badge]

the last thing I want is for the devs to feel pressured

[torpid quail]

Why? could you care to explain? I believe the news they dropped are great. Buy to play its a great decision, deliver a solid early access delaying the release date, is a great decision

[zenith pawn]

so happy the devs are listening to their community, so far game is going into a good direction

[grand light]

I am sorry to hear that matey, but we had to make that call.

[worldly garnet]

Oh i didn't see a vid lol

[spiral quiver]

hell yeah brother

[sharp rover]

Founders pack? Ancient skeleton skin/outfit??

[zenith pawn]

hallo

[livid shuttle]

V Rising monetization is perfect for a game like this! Buy to play with free updates and payed cosmetic dlc

[winged wind]

it was a good call 👍

[thorn pivot]

just saw the video i recind my question

[grave coral]

no pvp booooooo

[tight geode]

i just want one pirate game with good pvp man

[surreal sierra]

A few things Im noting from the teaser video;
New undead enemies (Skellingtons)
New island/biome/realm? Looks like the Sea of the Damned
NPC CREWS FOR YOUR SHIPS!
Ship customisation (Looks like Sails, perhaps the hull too?)

[spiral quiver]

Yar , awesome call boss

[ruby badge]

why? Its better for the devs to make sure the game is funded enough

[lofty basin]

pvp is still a possiblity for the future. just not a priority in any means

[zenith pawn]

play sea of thieves then :]

[tight geode]

its not good

[winged wind]

this game never advertised itself as a pvp game, just that it could have elements of it

[ruby badge]

the game does has pvp its just optional

[worldly garnet]

Its the best you got.

[thorn pivot]

yea if you want PVP ship game go play like one of the several already on the market

[spiral quiver]

there should of been another beta with the teaser 🙁

[grave coral]

maybe next time, we should wait few more years for another one 🙁

[ionic epoch]

Damn was looking forward to pvp. I know it's not a priority but that means it'll be barely in the game.

[midnight tide]

Where's that info coming from?

[umbral bridge]

Thats not what they mentioned tho

[flat snow]

i like the news, totally approve!

[ruby badge]

EVERYONE DON'T FIGHT, the game is still taking its first steps, just let us wait to see how it goes

[umbral bridge]

its focus on PVE and may have some pvp

[zenith pawn]

they should have an optional pvp server that people can join
Imagine how happy all the pvp people will be, dying and fighting with no mercy XD

[worldly garnet]

People will moan no matter what they do.

[regal gust]

epicly good news Thanks 😄

[thorn pivot]

yea yall need to see how well the game sells first before you make plans

[ornate rock]

ABSOLUTELY LOVE the direction this game is heading -- very obvious the dev team spent this time really working the data and came to a natural conclusion -- a live-service free-to-play model would have a shorter shelf-life than the model they're shifting toward. I can not wait to watch this take shape. Thanks for the timely #│announcements.

[surreal sierra]

Doesnt mean PVP wont have its own stage.

[umbral bridge]

So instead of going for the big win they go for the low hanging fruits an abolish mmo and most of pvp, thats disappointing

[worldly garnet]

Go make ya own game.

[umbral bridge]

fanboys incoming sigh.

[regal gust]

better to have a decent product that people will like than anoterh atlas fiasco

[spiral quiver]

just so ya'll know..server isn't up , just tried just incase yar was sneaky

[thorn pivot]

really funny how most people seem to be ether "WOOHOO" or "YAR A POX ON YOUR HOUSE SAYS I"

[surreal sierra]

Unfortunatly we cant please everyone and each person is wanting something different. We understand this but ask that people stay respectful of others who disagree

[regal gust]

whats the third option?

[torpid quail]

well, at least the mayority is pleased, you are doing great guys!

[thorn pivot]

imagine complaining about fans on a discord thats about the game where fans are crazy

[worldly garnet]

I was been respectful.

[lofty basin]

Please make sure to respect everyones opinion.

We knew this decision would spark controverse conversation. And everyone is entitled to their opinion.
It is completly valid to express Frustration, Joy, anger and we should give everyone a stage for that as long as it is voiced in a respectful matter.

[umbral bridge]

Atlas was a fiasco as it was bound to ARK code and the early devs left them "Spaghetti" code that no one was and will ever be able to fix

[thorn pivot]

"YAR I FEEL INDIFFERENT"

[spiral quiver]

theres not a main focus on pvp anyway and you knew that upfront..so why B* about it

[ruby badge]

if any of the devs are reading this please do give a raise to your art team, I'm already obessesed with this new artwork

[regal gust]

my point still stands.

[zenith pawn]

still waiting for news on offline singleplayer playability and self hostable dedicated/non-dedicated servers :)

[ember snow]

I love the new update news, Now the only thing I need to keep looking for is if we have officially named the crocodile statue/mascot Lenny 👀

[umbral bridge]

Didnt know you had the full info before everyone else, my bad ^^

[thorn pivot]

can we have other players on our ship?

[worldly garnet]

Trust me that was respectful. I could say far worse. haha

[ruby badge]

they kinda did make their direction with the game clear from the start matey

[spiral quiver]

it's common knowledge ...

[raw rover]

Pirate games with no pvp when that's what piracy is makes no sense. U would think a game based on piracy would have heavy pvp yes

[winged wind]

how is it a low hanging fruit when they clearly state thats what most of the audience wants? Why would they cater to a smaller pvp audience? You know that the game has to be successful? The game was never advertised as a primary pvp experience

[zenith pawn]

yes

[ember snow]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[ornate rock]

"This means you will be able to play offline, host your own sessions, run dedicated servers, and — in the future — play with mods (and even if not supported, mods will at least be technically feasible). "

[lofty basin]

it wasn´t directly directed at you.
thought i throw it out for everyone before it gets more heated ^^

[umbral bridge]

the game is still barely known, how can you know by a few people what "everyone" wants 😄

[zenith pawn]

AC black flag is singleplayer and everyone says its the best game
Pvp is not required for a good pirate game

[thorn pivot]

smort

[thorn pivot]

they most likely got feedback from the people who played in the beta and correlated from that what people wanted

[worldly garnet]

well Jeezee tagged me so I assumed you both was targeting me haha

[naive hinge]

i can't wait to play again 😭

[regal gust]

cough sid meyers pirates
but that is also a singleplayer so your point still stands.

[cedar anchor]

So, the game dont gonna be pvp anymore?

[ember snow]

Same here.

[frail remnant]

There was a very long survey at the end of the playtest, and an entire feedback channel they took into consideration

[winged wind]

there was a very popular playtest very recently with a bunch of feedback given, I think I have an idea where they got that feedback 😉

[ruby badge]

I don't get it, whats wrong with starting the game with your own pace and have your own advanture and then join pvp later when you're ready? it seems like a better approach than waking up and finding your base destoryed by a random guy

[spiral quiver]

dont worry about jee , he eats peanut butter with a fork

[surreal sierra]

No, but we're trying to nip any more heated discussions in the bud before they start. Not aimed at anyone in particular

[thorn pivot]

it might be added in the future who knows which way the wind blows

[torpid quail]

I know you want to deliver a solid early access, and for what alpha footages were shown, the game seems to be solid (at least for most earlies Ive played) Are you pointing towards early 2026 to be sure? Is there a chance to have the game before or 2026 is final decision?

[lofty basin]

i will also blame @surreal sierra here!

[zenith pawn]

no one said that, it could still exist, but its not the main focus

[regal gust]

because then they cant kick the new low levels down to feel better about themself.

[ember snow]

I wouldn't blame @surreal sierra at all.

[umbral bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/tangled-i-dont-care-whatever-so-what-gif-19119111

[surreal sierra]

Nah I would. Its ALWAYS @surreal sierra 's fault. hate that guy

[cedar anchor]

I mean, this game have a lot of potential to be what Atlas tried to be, i hope devs make the PVP

[spiral quiver]

Yar , can i donate to server rental ?

[ember snow]

[worldly garnet]

None of us hate you 🙂

[thorn pivot]

its certainly posible im just glad they are going the buy to play route

[zenith pawn]

just a little bit of news really brought this server to life lmao XD

[ember snow]

@surreal sierra Look as long as when the game comes out we can still praise Lenny, that's all that matters

[spiral quiver]

lets start a gofundme for cw server rental lol

[winged wind]

no I would not and I dont understand this logic. There are many games about conflict and war that are singleplayer, there is no requirement for games to be pvp if there is any kind of conflict involved

[raw rover]

Pve enjoyers already killed dune. Don't make the same mistakes

[worldly garnet]

Its nice to see the chat popping off again haha

[heavy gull]

Nice change going away from pvp and focussing on pve

[thorn pivot]

so the tease at the end of the video what was they guy buying?

[worldly garnet]

Just glad no begging for keys haha

[regal gust]

a crew member

[lofty basin]

There is the potential of more tests before early access. But lets face it. That is all still up for discussion. And we really dont want to make false promises.

WIth that said the date of 2026 is vague. And when the Early Access will start is all dependent on how fast development goes. But of course we cannot give a 100% accurate ETA

[spiral quiver]

yeah right , been dead since the test ended

[cedar anchor]

PVP makes the almost survival games still alive

[umbral bridge]

"Real men fight other players. The rest fight the AI."
— Abraham Lincoln, 1865

[regal gust]

Keys?!

[zenith pawn]

this game is not gonna be dune, its gonna be like enshrouded/valheim, and go look how successful those games were

[spiral quiver]

hey bambino is here

[torpid quail]

totally agree

[thorn pivot]

is that not what you do normally why wassnt teased?

[umbral bridge]

I respect PvE players. Someone has to test the weapons before the big boys fight

[thorn pivot]

thats a cosmetic idea an outfit thats covered in old keys

[raw rover]

Having someone visit your world isnt like either of those its some lame darksouls thing

[regal gust]

huh?
we haven't heard or seen what crew member would do.
also i only have the info from the teaser so i could cetainly be very very wrong.

[thorn pivot]

i see i just remember seeing in the video the ship already had crew on it

[worldly garnet]

I have 2k hours solo in rust more than happy with PVP. But I do like a story in a game.

[regal gust]

yeah after you buy them?

[surreal sierra]

PVP is never a hardline requirement for a successful game. People enjoy different things.

[thorn pivot]

i guess i just thought when you build the ship you some how materialize crew members after XD

[spiral quiver]

valheim doesnt have pvp really and it's once of steam most succesful games

[tight geode]

well whats there to do after you beat the game

[torpid quail]

why people love PVP for these games? Think about the adults that enjoy building, farming, exploring. Its really frustrating to farm a whole week so and pre puber with no life destroys your work just for fun. Unless the PVP is only focused on ship battles, like assasin creeds black flag. That would be different

[naive hinge]

Like the video on youtube because on steam we can not 👍 👍 👍

[zenith pawn]

make a new world and start again, like all other survival games

[regal gust]

it properly will be like that.
but whose not to say you can hire crew member that gives a bonus.?

[worldly garnet]

Hope they fixed the lag with lighting.

[tight geode]

well then i really hope there is a significant way to change the playthrough instead of literally just doing everything the same way... again.

[neon mural]

lol I just like to rock the boat

[pearl brook]

I'm super appreciative of the fact that the dev team recognizes the potential down the road limitations of the goals they had aspired to and chose to move in a direction much more easily maintained.

The goal after all is to create something people will enjoy and be satisfied with. Giving a half baked experience would be detrimental.

They said they would happy to look at pvp later down the road and thats good enough for the time being.

[umbral bridge]

You can have nice pvp without just focusing on no-lifers. Just look how Atlas managed it. You had a peacephase of 15h a day. And you could setup it as you like.

[ruby badge]

so I finished reading the news, does that mean that pvp is completely removed or is it just something that will come later ?

[shell dagger]

you can rob other ships in a pirate game without it being pvp, too

[regal gust]

hey if i cannot go and harrass new low levels so i can gatekeep the game to only my group of friends and make sure no new player want to play cause they cannot have a chance due the the pvp why would i even play the game ? /heavy sarcasm

[umbral bridge]

they will tell you it comes later so PVP'er still buy it

[ruby badge]

I don't mind if it comes later if it means that they can focus on the core game now

[raw rover]

Typical skyrim NPC comment on pvp

[regal gust]

name one open world pvp game that hasn't ended up like that

[ruby badge]

but at least we need a confirmation

[spiral quiver]

rust gank squads anyone?..

[zenith pawn]

as I said before I think pvp should be an optional server that pvp lovers can join

[umbral bridge]

As i said. Low hanging fruits. The game has huge potential to be a big one. But they go for the quick and easy approach which i can understand , as an mmo would definitely need a few million invest to make it happen

[winged wind]

do you just... never play non-live service games or what?? If you have beat the game, you've spent hours in it and if you did then those hours were an enjoyable experience, not every game lasts forever and not everything has to last forever. People have spent hundreds of hours in the recent playtest and that was an unfinished game, there will be enough content to last you a while

[tight geode]

no ive played WoW for 15 years

[regal gust]

welcoem to modern gaming, where no one remembers what it means to "beat" a game.

[spiral quiver]

now i will say , if open ocean pvp was instanced and limited to the 2 people involved so gank squads couldn't happen..i'd be all for it

[rigid trench]

My issue isn't with the monetization, I always felt F2P would have been an issue.

I'm disappointed in the shift to co-op and away from any real pvp.. I'm sure the game will still find an audience, I'm just not a fan of offline co-op pve games like this. I'm sure it's much better from a business perspective but as a gamer, it just doesn't interest me any longer.

[umbral bridge]

imagine being traumatized from Rust "gank squads"

https://tenor.com/view/ppf-lol-omg-gif-21502676

[tired gale]

Pve and pvp both have their place in survival games prime example is conan exiles pve is for those wanting to chill and just be a pirate where pvp will allow competition or even pirate role play specially if private servers became a thing for it

[surreal sierra]

Rust was a beast unto its own lmao. Good times

[grand light]

We can't confirm anything about PvP, expect for that we will focus on working on PvE for the time being. To reflect it, we also changing our Steam page to remove any hints for PvP.

We will happily address this again when we complete the main scope of work. Unfortunately, game development is largely about making choices and prioritizing stuff, so the current hard choice is that working on PvP is paused for now.

[raw rover]

Now it'll just be a darksouls themed pirate skin

[spiral quiver]

son you have no fing clue , i was a pk in uo with over 8k kills..im older now and pretty much hate pvp

i griefed alot of ppl in my uo days

[winged wind]

yeah and we WILL be playing

[naive hinge]

It's a shame we can't pre-order, I would have done it. 😋

[regal gust]

oh no

[umbral bridge]

just lost interest of a few thousand players, for sure

[zenith pawn]

me too XD

[regal gust]

and retained a few 10 thousands more.

[surreal sierra]

'For now'. Doesnt mean it will always be that way.

[neon mural]

no no, dont encourage pre-orders for EA games, maybe for full release

[pearl brook]

If a game dev tries to please everyone they'll please no one

[zenith pawn]

optional pvp servers could totally work for this game

[regal gust]

they should do what they want to do.

[ruby badge]

Glad that you made that clear from the start, honestly I'm ready for the game whether its PVE or PVP, if we happen to have PVP on the long run it will be more than welcomed, and thank you for your efforts!

[winged wind]

cool, they can go play the other hundreds of thousands of games that exist out there. Nothing ever can please everyone and a direction has to be taken. This is not the only game in existence

[lofty basin]

if not directly through crosswind, i am sure some people will mod it that way haha

[tired gale]

Thats exactly what I was saying but the dog gif kind of pushed it from being seen

[regal gust]

modding support confirmed? /jk

[surreal sierra]

Oh dear. Not the modding can of worms. That is a limitless topic that can go anywhere

[raw rover]

Shouldn't have to mod games to finish them

[lofty basin]

not directly.

but Modding will technically be feasible now

[naive hinge]

@neon mural WHY ? small team deserve money for working on this game anyway i'm going to buy it like many people

[spiral quiver]

how are they gonna mod it without the 2 instanced zones?

[ornate rock]

I'm gonna buy it 3 times so I can play with my kids.

[zenith pawn]

I wonder how long dis chaos and excitement is gonna last :]

[surreal sierra]

No we're not saying mods are needed. Its still way off the final product. We're only saying that modding the game in the future is inevitable

[regal gust]

from teh direction they are headed seems like they are moving away from the servers and more onto a localy hosted game.

[real zephyr]

this is good news, rather have the devs focus on new content than keeping a pvp game alive. And this way Croswinds sets itself apart from Sea of Thieves since SoT feels pretty empty pve wise

[spiral quiver]

ah yeah , in that case LETTTTTT THE MODDDING BEGIN!!! haha

[zenith pawn]

Im 100% with this decision

[surreal sierra]

As long as friendly fire is enabled so I can blunderblast me mates, I'm satisfied

[umbral bridge]

yep, people got baited now so they can reduce potential invest and go for low hanging fruits, as i said. Thats the way

[spiral quiver]

i hope theres a kickstarter edition

[neon mural]

not using streaming assets, their own servers? yeah modding would be possible,

[spiral quiver]

o yeah , just like valeim

[regal gust]

just ask for a refund and get you mon... oh wait you haven't spend any money yet. the door to leave is right there you lost nothing. dont be so salty. the sea is salty enough.

[raw rover]

Darksouls clone number 5000 with no pvp in a game based on piracy

[rocky valve]

I for one is very excited about the direction they have taken. Spanning over too much has been the downfall of many a game before

[lofty basin]

modders always find ways

[vital sedge]

I was excited about a new thing coming to the survival genre, and with that comes the financial risk of the unknown.

They choose the "safe waters". Based on the quality of the game, they will at least break even.

I understand, but I don't like the decision because I believe the survival genre needs innovation.

Like it or not, respect to the devs that made it clear asap the direction of the game.

[ruby badge]

honestly I always wanted a soulslike game with pirate elements xD

[surreal sierra]

Come now. We all understand not everyone will be pleased. But lets keep it polite

[raw rover]

Survivals too easy with no pvp. It's just a farming sim then

[regal gust]

yes i will go in the corner and think about what i did.

i am sorry.

[ruby badge]

STOP FIGHTING ARRRRR

[spiral quiver]

they're gonna more than break even , i'm gonna be buyin 3 copies lol me , my brother, my great nephew lol..wait 4 , one for my friend

[winged wind]

so go play pvp survival, the direction has been made clear, what is your complaining gonna do?

[lofty basin]

hands on insane was a decent challange even fully geared :)

[rocky valve]

I would totally play a pirate themed Stardew Valley

[ruby badge]

fortnite really made people underestimate what a good singleplayer game can do

[ember snow]

With someone with a fair amount of hours into multiple sim games, I've never had to fight crocodiles in farming simulator, just saying

[umbral bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-black-child-exorcist-savun-gif-2886110114740383915

[tired gale]

Think about this if it were free 2 play it would be a pirate clone of once human and even once human isn't in a great shape

[raw rover]

End up on game pass within a year

[rocky valve]

Oh shush!

[lofty basin]

yet

[spiral quiver]

WHAT?? you never fought the boss gator on hildesdale map?

[surreal sierra]

@umbral bridge We completely respect that not everyone is happy with the decision. For the time being, the CW team have their vision for their product and it wont always align with what each individual wants. While we all know PVP is a much desired aspect, as stated by Yar it's not on the table for their current workload. He has said its not a focus for now, meaning that may or may not change in the future. If that does change then PVP players are always more than welcome to come back to CW in the future.

[ember snow]

I mean, if I can get a pet Lenny in Farming Simulator, I would be ecstatic

[lofty basin]

Farming SIm 2029 will introduce croc leather farms i am sure

[ember snow]

Can I port those over to Crosswind? I need all the crocodile skins

[lofty basin]

that would be a wild crossover

[spiral quiver]

you havent truely pushed farm sim to it's limits until you've rolled a combine onto it's roof to be honest..

[zenith pawn]

this game attracted too many pvp players.
atleast now with a decided direction this game will find the right player base.

[ember snow]

I think by the end of the Alpha I had built like 5 or 6 Crocodile Statues, the pointing one is Lenny and the meditating one is his twin Leonard.

[raw rover]

❄️

[boreal violet]

Dune Awakening is a good warning that bad PvP in a "survival" game can undermine the whole experience. I rather have a focussed coop PvE experience instead of such a mess.

[grand light]

Maybe. And that's what I'm talking about -- making hard choices. Our initial scope for the game was too ambitous for what we can handle. But at least we try to be open about it -- and -- in our humble opinion, it's better to deliver a good game which does its own thing well than to undercook everything at once.

[raw rover]

Pvp wasn't the issue the complete lack of content was

[surreal sierra]

Its still early, the right community and playerbase will settle eventually

[spiral quiver]

you want a good example of what pvp does to a good game..look at conan exiles , pvp , hacking , glitch exploiters and literally ruined that game

[dire beacon]

only a few thousand the game can thrive without them.

[remote mango]

I can't pvp now? I wanted to battle other crews and take their loot/ship. Now I gotta fight a npc... 😂

[rocky valve]

Look at SoT that still has problems with exploits, stability and overall game performance...

[raw rover]

Yes. Sad times

[boreal violet]

its complicated but getting PvP just somewhat right takes away so much dev time, not to mention that I have yet to see a survival game that can pull it off, especially if you mix PvE and PvP. One side always gets left out.

[zenith pawn]

enshrouded and valheim has a massive player base, pvp is not required.
if this game goes into that direction it will be very successful

[spiral quiver]

YUP , now ..open the server lol

[remote mango]

Yeh. Back to Dune I guess

[spiral quiver]

um pls

[raw rover]

BF6 beta this weekend

[spiral quiver]

o and i need a key for my brother lol

[teal bramble]

Already live 🙂

[rocky valve]

Without p2w you still found a way to whale

[neon mural]

I do kinda worry about people who are all about robbing someone in a game, like who hurt them.

[zenith pawn]

I can see why people say no game can please everyone :\

[spiral quiver]

i dont really care for bf to be honest

[umbral bridge]

The game looks great and has a lot of potential. There have been a lot of failed pirate themed games in the last years, i hope this one will succeed for once. Sad to see it without pvp for now

[raw rover]

Its a pirate game..... if you cant see the appeal I dont know what to tell you

[rocky valve]

Me

[surreal sierra]

To be fair, Pirate game...

[rocky valve]

I hurt all of them

[dire beacon]

because all the pirate games that have pvp have been doing SOOOO well XD LOL

[neon mural]

lol yeah I get it

[ruby badge]

Or maybe if it does successed they will have enough resources to make pvp possible

[boreal violet]

the fantasy of being a pirate is based on the fact that not everyone is a pirate. If everyone is a pirate then noone is.

[surreal sierra]

I was SUPER disappointed when hourglass was added to SoT. Always full of hackers, or people who loss farm.

[umbral bridge]

Atlas didnt fail because of pvp, but because of 1000 other things that were not polished

[zenith pawn]

yeah, it failed cuz it was abandoned and left in a buggy/unfinished state

[dire beacon]

Atlas is just an roleplaying game now. People go for pirate style roleplaying thats it.

[neon mural]

some private servers still do pretty good in atlas, but most let you claim a pve and pvp island

[raw rover]

The map sharding was horrendous. With modern tech it would be ok

[rocky valve]

Whaaat no one ever cheats in hourglass

[dire beacon]

SoT dropped the ball day one and never fully recovered.

[spiral quiver]

when i played uo on siege perilous my pk had over 8k kills when i left because of the trammel / fel patch . I griefed ALOT of people and stole more loot than i knew what to do with , by the end it was just because i could kill and started just doing that and not even looting

[ruby badge]

Btw can someone tell me if the artist or artists in the team has social media?
As and artist I liked their work and I want to follow them

[vital sedge]

that's pure hopium.

[ruby badge]

Im okay with both directions, if we happen to have pvp then good if we don't its also good

[dire beacon]

Skull and Bones is trying to recover with the roadmap this year but too much grind up till now and not enough content improvements. Not to mention you have to fight people to progress end game

[raw rover]

Just having fun playing corepunk

[rocky valve]

I enjoyed the naval battles in SaB, but the island parts were.... yikes

[umbral bridge]

They will not recover, their whole approach was wrong

[ruby badge]

I believe crosswinds will have the best of both worlds

[tired gale]

I agree but I know if the at least include pvp zones it may also help with that but I really feel private and official servers would help this situation more

[raw rover]

Without pvp it'll just be another forgotten niche game

[ruby badge]

Many single player or coop game still thrive and has big audiences

[zenith pawn]

No it wont.
Enshrouded/Valheim dont have pvp and go look how successful they are

[ruby badge]

This myth that a game needs multiplayer and pvp to remain relevant is brainrot

[onyx heath]

this

[dire beacon]

and they are still being updated consistantly

[zenith pawn]

Exactly

[raw rover]

14k players isnt great

[zenith pawn]

Its not an mmo

[spiral quiver]

yup , valheim i think broke the record for all time sales in a single week

[rocky valve]

If you want pvp you can always join this chat?

[lofty basin]

huh, you definetly dont have to fight others to progress.

but wrong game ;D

[dire beacon]

if you want to pinpoint manufacture plants which is part of the end game empire gameplay you sometimes have to fight over a zone to take it.

[surreal sierra]

The Betas and release state killed SaB imo

[raw rover]

Enshrouded less than 7k players yesterday

[lofty basin]

you can get all with no pvp. :)

[dire beacon]

you and I were part of different seasons then because it definitely was the case

[spiral quiver]

I can't remember EVER having to pvp in snb to establish a port for mats

[onyx heath]

Ofcourse. having less than 100k concurent users is a dead game.

[raw rover]

7k is pretty dead yes

[spiral quiver]

it never really had alot to begin with lol

[dire beacon]

keep in mind though enshrouded and valheim fluctuated based upon update releases.

But they arent in any terms "dead"

[tight geode]

they were also covid games too right?

[ruby badge]

My only real request to the devs is to put in the game a very cool and long blueish coat xD

[rocky valve]

That is oddly specific

[ruby badge]

Its mostly based on the main character I have in my comic

[spiral quiver]

im pretty sure valeim wasnt a covid game

[noble monolith]

hopefully they take a page from ark and give the option of pve or pvp servers

[tight geode]

release in 2021 ya it was

[rocky valve]

I'm all for pirates with visions for their aesthetics so I'll second the coat!

[zenith pawn]

Sea of thieves has 3.9k and its not even singleplayer

[spiral quiver]

no kiddin , thought it was the summer before

[ember snow]

I mean one thing could be implemented to do Cosmetic Covers of gear. So even though I have the maxxed out best gear in the game like the Mask, it could have the cosmetic ovverride for the base gear so I can continue being a sea hobo.

[tight geode]

same i had to double check it

[shrewd arch]

Free to play my AS*

[spiral quiver]

?

[zenith pawn]

Yeah I agree, f2p sucks

[ruby badge]

I am making a story that has pirate/ lovecraftian elements and my main character has a very long blue coat, I was going to recreate him in crosswind was the game comes out :3

[ember snow]

Good ole Google AI

[rocky valve]

Everyone loves a good sea hobo look. I have my mind set on some kind of banana leaf skirt

[regal gust]

there are solo hostile takeover and you can buy certain permits so you dont have to do that

[ember snow]

This looks amazing

[dire beacon]

that wasnt available in the start of skull and bones or the first season "the permits"

[ruby badge]

thanks!

[spiral quiver]

the thing is..you only had to kill more npcs to get the port lol..you didnt have to engage and alot didnt

[dire beacon]

you try that with a full lobby that was entering hostile takovers. Even with a limit.

[ruby badge]

ye people forget it but S&B didn't really have real PVP till very later in the game cycle

[regal gust]

there are also green hostile where it wont be pvp
and the blue ones where you hunt a npc ship
and permits you can buy from scurlock

[spiral quiver]

dunno, even in safe harbors i usually never saw many players

[dire beacon]

I lucked out because I would roll up with two teamates

[lofty basin]

HT wasnt the only way to gain Manufactories.
these days its even improved with Solo HT that are the majority.

But it was never fully forcing you to pvp to progress.

anyways. wrong game :D

[rocky valve]

I'm disappointed none of the Crosswind crocs were ticking. Missed opportunity right there

[zenith pawn]

This game is losing pvp players, but its gonna gain more pve players, I see this as a big win :)

[dire beacon]

Its not going to lose all the pvp players. Just the ones that want to play pirate cod xD

[spiral quiver]

lol

[ruby badge]

I'm a big supporter for good stories and good PVE content, whatever happend to people playing toegther and enjoying the games together

[dire beacon]

i was just making a joke its not serious lol

[spiral quiver]

dunno , me and my brother play pretty much every game together

[rocky valve]

And clearly people have never played any coop games with their siblings if they think they hold no pvp

[zenith pawn]

yeah ik, im chill :]

[ruby badge]

the mere thought that me and my budy can go on fights against ships and fleets already sounds amazing

[spiral quiver]

me and my brother pvp each other irl..no need to do it in a game lol

[zenith pawn]

bruh XD

[rocky valve]

I sincerely hope that is not a dead body

[ruby badge]

I meant buddy xDD

[dire beacon]

it can have pvp like an arena and be fine. PVP just doesnt have to be the full focus of a game like this.

[ruby badge]

honest mistake

[umbral bridge]

PVE players that will quit as soon as they reached max level and ship and there is nothing to do anymore

But thats where you already paid, so no worries 😉

[rocky valve]

I know, but the typo was amazing when talking about pvp. I was getting Swiss Army Man vibes 😂

[zenith pawn]

enshrouded/valheim still has thousands of players :]
just saying

[remote mango]

I like PVP because it feels more rewarding to beat an irl player vs NPC. Motivates me to get good gear, ship battles and It can extend a games life.

[ruby badge]

GUYS STOP FIGHTIONG AAAAREA

[regal gust]

yeah but valheim only have 13k players right now so that is a dead game

[spiral quiver]

im done fighting , one of my comments already got pulled lol..so im gonna stop just short of the ban hammer lol

[dire beacon]

run a friend through the game after. Play a new character. Develop your base. Fashion-Wind. Sink / board ships because you can. Run around tortuga. See if you can kill bosses with out being hit.

[zenith pawn]

thats funny XD

[ruby badge]

like for real, the crew of the game is an indie sized and for them to make the game a jack of all trades won't work for anyone, they made the most logical option to focus on the core game first, we don't want another skull and bones situation or a lackluster experience like sea of theives

[rocky valve]

I'm glad they are reworking Tortuga. Man it was tough to find a parking spot

[lofty basin]

that was auto moderation thats keyword triggered ^^

[spiral quiver]

no it wasn't , i didnt get a warning ..it was literally pulled

[regal gust]

yeah thats what auto mods do when you trigger a keyword.

[ruby badge]

make the core game better then add to it later

[zenith pawn]

Atleast now I dont have to worry about the game disappearing one day :]

[spiral quiver]

it would of sent me a warning heh

[dire beacon]

Also im sure when people max out. They will start to chill in the pvp arena that was there in alpha if its still there.

[rocky valve]

You just have to worry about dodo birds when setting camp

[umbral bridge]

when you foudn out meta, it will be so boring to kill AI ships

[ruby badge]

YES exactly, tired of games just vanshing

[regal gust]

clearly it didn't cause you didn't recieve one. and the auto mods i run on my discords doesn't either so.

[dire beacon]

but ships dont have that level of customization. So meta is moot at the moment.

unless you mean run one ship because its better than the others and call it aday

[umbral bridge]

So you live in your own "instance" with only NPCs and just tortuga will be some place to do stuff with others?

[ruby badge]

bruv no offense but if you don't like the direction of the game why are you still fighting with people

[rocky valve]

Can we talk about having a visibly crew now so I do not need to feel like a multi-personality ventriloquist when using the shanties?

[spiral quiver]

i doubt theres going to be a meta outside of personal gear ..because basically we're all gonna need the top gear anyway lol..like duh , and you cant upgrade ship cannons so..

[grand light]

No, there won't be shared zones, as there won't be servers "on our side" anymore. Tortuga will be integrated as one of the normal game locations.

[lofty basin]

You can enclose them and have a cute little dodo coop

[umbral bridge]

where is askign this "fighting"

[umbral bridge]

So no interactions then?

[zenith pawn]

Imo the devs should not worry about the decision they made

Yes the game may lose some pvp players but they'll be replaced with even more pve players :]

[spiral quiver]

russel are you thick?

[lofty basin]

Aside from your coop friends, for now, no

[rocky valve]

There is nothing cute about those raptor chickens! To be fair they are kind of cute, but they were the first thing that killed me in the alpha so I have emotional scars xD

[ruby badge]

cool! don't forget, add a cool long blue coat pawse captain :3

[dire beacon]

thats cool. Im glad you guys are trying to solve the server limit issue.

[lofty basin]

I think I've posted a screenshot somewhere of my little enclosure.
It adds some flair and almost has some "farming" style.
And they also can't attack you anymore but are always there if you need meat

[umbral bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-hiss-hissing-donald-snack-gif-12874197

thicc

[spiral quiver]

yeah , that about what i pictured

[ruby badge]

yees, it was actually funny how the ship is driving itself, it felt like how jack sparrow was going insane in davy jones locker and the ship was empty xD

[lofty basin]

I'll ask you friendly to stop now. :)
Feel free to discuss about the game. But don't antagonize each other.

[grand yarrow]

If you need anyone to help test dedicated servers at some point, I would be more than happy to volunteer my services and servers. 🍻

[rocky valve]

They do not multiply do they? But I love the idea of a dodo farm

[lofty basin]

No, but they do respawn in there.

Please keep politics out of this chat.

[dire beacon]

that was a crazy development in terms of steam.

[hallow night]

Oh wow, I don't look at the discord for an hour and there's all sorts of AMAZING news, a fancy trailer, info about PvE vs PvP and monetization info. I'm super happy with all the choices. Great direction ❤️

[regal gust]

they dont need dedicated server it will be localy hosted servers now (p2p)

[umbral bridge]

Well, thats not too far from Stardew valley then

[zenith pawn]

ooh ok sorry, didnt realize theres a rule for that

[ruby badge]

STOP FIGHTIN BRUVS

[rocky valve]

Okay that actually works then. Did they also produce eggs?

[regal gust]

wops forgot to tag you message #💬│windrose-chat message

[umbral bridge]

Chill, they will make the dicord also PVE soon

[candid kindle]

ADD PVP TO CROSSWIND OR I EAT MY SHOE

https://youtu.be/q7iLiZBuj-k?si=dIWdzrN9_Pv3gBWY

[lofty basin]

Those respawned on relog iirc

[lofty basin]

Discord is always the truest form of pvp

[dire beacon]

are you going to stream it for content?

[rocky valve]

Do you want ketchup with that?

[candid kindle]

ATLAS IS A PIRATE GAME WITH BOAT PVP

[rocky valve]

Caps lock is a button on your keyboard

[candid kindle]

ATLAS IS THE BEST GAME ON PLANET EARTH

[regal gust]

what you dont just hold shift?

[zenith pawn]

is so many caps lock even allowed ? XD

[surreal sierra]

Anyone else think this guy likes Atlas?

[lofty basin]

Can you not? ^^

[umbral bridge]

caps lock still counts as PVE

[regal gust]

then go play that. bye.,

[rocky valve]

I'm still on the fence

[surreal sierra]

Yeah I get that but I'm not convinced

[candid kindle]

If anyone is interested in playing a pirate survival game with actual pvp message me

[lofty basin]

Everyone is welcome, even if they like other games more.
Just no need to shout it out here haha

[grand yarrow]

That's not true. the news mentioned dedicated servers, which is different than p2p.

[blazing jungle]

I wanna see him eat the shoe.

[rocky valve]

Depends on if I'm in the mood for accidentally typing everything in caps

[brazen parrot]

Darn, Im missing crosswind

Also i would pay money for a clip of him eating the shoe!

[zenith pawn]

Im missing it even tho I didnt play it :]

[rocky valve]

I need more information. Like, what kind of shoe?

[dire beacon]

but its "wrong game :D"

hehe

[lofty basin]

That's why I asked them to...not do that

[regal gust]

yeah and "host your own sessions" which will be p2p

[surreal sierra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6AU8CF9pfc&ab_channel=539874524124a

[rocky valve]

That is cheating!

[zenith pawn]

Im so happy with that decision

[brazen parrot]

I played around 190 hours xD

[bold hazel]

Ill pay $70 for a special edition, idc, I am ready! Hell ya love the new info and vids.

Also... was that the Spawn of Oggdo I saw mid video?! lmao! 😄

[regal gust]

its gonna be a coop pve game with localy hosted and dedicated servers, wh ocares about cheating anymore.

[rocky valve]

It needs to at least be a boot, it is a pirate game after all

[zenith pawn]

damn ok XD

[brazen parrot]

The withdrawal is on its peak now!

[rocky valve]

I mean the chocolate shoe that JeeZee linked xD

[regal gust]

no nono

[grand yarrow]

I'm not sure I see your point here. My statement was strictly about dedicated servers, not p2p. I said that if the need arose to help test the dedicated server options, I would offer up my help.

[umbral bridge]

imagine the waste of potential on this

[dire beacon]

Imagine the waste of time complaining in chat over this.

[rocky valve]

I've heard that atlas has pvp

[umbral bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/blah-blah-blah-gif-8204411509153118973

[distant mountain]

Active chat D

[flint grotto]

Do we have a date for when the next beta test or update

[spiral quiver]

almost forgot there was a block feature heh

[zenith pawn]

Im imagining the gain of potential on this :]

[surreal sierra]

Not yet

[grand yarrow]

Well, whenever it is...looking forward to it. 🍻

[flint grotto]

If you guys could keep me up to date I would be most grateful I'll keep an eye out on the server as well

[regal gust]

between now and release.

[spiral quiver]

wait , you want us to txt you when something happens?

[surreal sierra]

You have the lookout role, so anytime a post is pinged in #│announcements you'll know

[rocky valve]

I'm sure there will be a server ping when they have those kind of big news 😄

[regal gust]

you can follow the news channel

[spiral quiver]

or would you prefere a phone call?..

[regal gust]

yeah can you do that?

[surreal sierra]

Fax maybe?

[lofty basin]

Can I ask you to step back a little bit.
I understand you are disappointed that Crosswind will not meet your expectations. But your previous messages have all consisted of an overly negative tone without adding anything constructive.

[rocky valve]

I'd take a carrier pigeon

[regal gust]

i want it in a flask thrown into the sea.

[surreal sierra]

oo, we can send a Raven with a parchment

[spiral quiver]

pls tell me you still dont have a fax..

[rocky valve]

I would buy the deluxe game edition AND eat a shoe if you send me a raven!

[surreal sierra]

I know fax is still used in the US. I myself have used one perhaps 2-3 times

[zenith pawn]

very active indeed XD

[grand yarrow]

Will we have a limit on how many copies of the game we can purchase? 😉

[spiral quiver]

really?

[regal gust]

yeah i tried fax once but i couldn't understand anything it said so i just stopped using it.

[dire beacon]

wait people still have landlines?

[spiral quiver]

i actually do have a landline

[regal gust]

that also why i dont use dial up.

[surreal sierra]

theyre practically built into most older homes in the UK. less so nowadays

[dire beacon]

apparently aol is just now shutting down dial up xD

[lofty basin]

Germany also still has a decent amount of landlines.
In some region even necessary as you don't have any signal with mobile 💀

[stiff comet]

Good idea to not be FTP game with microtransactions and instead make it a 1 time purchase (like most models) then they can just sell skins and cosmetics (like most models).
Probably have a battle pass or something similar at some point too (like most models) That's pretty much what the player base is used to. And focus more on PVE the 1st year, then PVP after the 1st year (like most models). Pretty standard stuff.
They didn't make mention of any BETA testing which is surprising, but hopefully it comes along before early access.
A public test realm would be really cool at some point, but we'll see

[spiral quiver]

no phone hooked to it , but it's included in my friggin internet for some reason ..and yes when they installed the fiber the tec did actually hook a phone to it for dialtone lol

[rocky valve]

Back when your parents drilled your landline number into your brain and you had to recite it if you were ever to leave the house

[umbral bridge]

yea, i will keep the field free for the cheerleaders now 😉

[lofty basin]

Sigh

But thank you for being understanding

[zenith pawn]

so hows your day going ? :]

[spiral quiver]

right , like the old bastar down the street was gonna kidnap me lol

[rocky valve]

Ooooh passive aggressiveness now. We are moving into mom territories now

[lofty basin]

Living the dream

[dire beacon]

the house im in was built in 1992 and I have no idea where they hooked the landline up to so unless the previous owner pulled it all. Its not the same as where I grew up and plugged it into a line running the baseboard.

[zenith pawn]

:]

[rocky valve]

You never know! And you had to have coins for the phone booth

[rocky valve]

I think you may have to see someone about those dreams m'dear xD

[spiral quiver]

they pulled the main block for mine into the basement , the copper is right next to the fiber for the internet

[dire beacon]

its kind of funny. Out of all places they took one look at the garage and was like. Yeah lets put all the internet devices in here xD . My IT brain just died inside alittle looking at it.

[lofty basin]

I'll just share them with JeeZee and Bambino

[rocky valve]

Is that wise?

[lofty basin]

https://tenor.com/view/unsure-hmm-well-im-not-sure-gif-8356182

[dire beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/is-that-legal-legal-illegal-star-wars-legality-gif-17605531

[surreal sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/gibberish-discord-meme-get-this-man-a-shield-wakanda-gif-1239357558790190300

[rocky valve]

I thought so...

[spiral quiver]

the best part of my fiber story..i live in a town of 800 people , OF WHICH 700 are amish or wheeled menonite, my house , no kidding a tec told me this , my house uses more internet that the entire town lol

[zenith pawn]

ima be playing this game endlessly when it releases :]

[rocky valve]

But... you live in the town

[spiral quiver]

very small town

[lofty basin]

Oh I am 90% sure I also use more than the whole street here 🤣

[spiral quiver]

on the plus side of a small town is never having to lock anything up , this was a huge change from lauderdale lol

[rocky valve]

But you do have to watch out for loose horses

[spiral quiver]

actually..more the cows lol

[rocky valve]

I can easily see you waking up to a garden full of cows xD

[spiral quiver]

the horses are like yeah , im good ..been pulling that dam wagon all day im done walking around

the cows are like , ya know..i wonder whats in the field on the other side of town , lets go for a walk down main st lol

[rocky valve]

They are curious animals for sure

[hallow night]

man I love the teaser a lot and the infos are just... everything I hoped for

I'm so glad

Just when I thought I can't get more hyped or can't wait for the game more, the dev team gives us all the great news. ❤️

[zenith pawn]

im 100% with you here :]

[hallow night]

Wheee! At the end of the teaser... they even showed a glimpse about recruitment!

[zenith pawn]

really?
thats cool :]

[dire beacon]

they spelled ingredients wrong xD but cool indeed

[hallow night]

Ha! They did, lol nice catch

[dire beacon]

Im sure they will get it but I found it alittle funny

[cedar horizon]

Ok im fully on board now, I think mmo lites like rust/dune are really boring and the multiplayer aspect is just not even engaging. If I was building a base in valheim and some other viking just came up and killed me I would have uninstalled right there instead of playing for 800 hours.

Good call devs, focusing on just making a fun and immersive adventure game is the right move. If people want pvp they can play sea of thieves

[copper citrus]

damn no pvp is just sad

[wind lake]

How do I get play test access? I'm a twitch partner

[distant mountain]

Creative channel

[cedar horizon]

Now that the game is mostly co op focused, I really hope that you can implement people being able to walk around on deck and having roles on a ship during sailing. Doesnt have to be nearly as in depth as sea of theives, but just being able to walk around and fire a cannon would be enough

[zenith pawn]

It would be cool if a friend can take control of shooting the cannons while you do the sailing, basically splitting the work.

But if the friend wants to chill you should still remain in full control

[dusk arch]

@torpid dirge will there still be playtest before early acces release? I still wanna play haha and i hope before 2026 you last dev log sounds verry good 🙂

[winter frigate]

dont @ the devs

[zenith pawn]

afaik there could be, if one becomes available they'll announce it in #│announcements and on the steam page

[lofty basin]

Nothing set in stone yet.
It's a very definitive maybe.

[winter frigate]

looking forward to early access

[sour shale]

i was looking around and trying to find some info maybe it is better ask in here, it will be only centered with pirates or do they plan to bring England, Spain, France to the game as a option?

[ruby badge]

from what I've seen there will be a crew system to take care of the ship, other pirates or friends will probably be able to summon their own ships I would assume, but having a crew system that take of the ship is easier from a gameplay perspective

it also helps to make the crew an important element of the game

I'm also glad that they hinted that you can hire specialized npcs for different tasks

at this point the only thing this game need is a decent ship customzation for me to never stop playing xD

[tribal hemlock]

no pirate game until 2026

good update though, looking forward to it

[ruby badge]

hopefully the early access is early in the year

[vague radish]

Ill probs will keep saying to myself that its gonna be Q4 next year,if its sooner thats great if its not then i wont be disappointed

But going EA first seems like they are going for an similar Strategy as has been used with games like valheim/satisfactory/enshrouded to name a few, which is honesty an pretty nice way to go about it.

Create some revenue that can be used to help the development.

[hushed imp]

I was hoping pvp would be a part of the game in EA, once you reach the end game of EA you're just forced to wait

[ruby badge]

Guys, pvp not being the focus should make everyone happy, we really should focus on the core game being good before complaining about if we can kill each other or not, once the core gameplay is established and the game secure a good fanbase and success I don't see why pvp can't be an option down the road, once the devs have the hard part done and more resources to make it work

[umbral bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/femboy-chad-gif-14364815610372306405

[ruby badge]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-depp-captain-jack-sparrow-pirates-of-the-caribbean-at-worlds-end-potc-gif-16751331

we must fight... to run away!

[hallow night]

Yup, after 18+ years of WoW, and about 3-4 years of Valheim this is definitely my next big game. They keep ticking all the right boxes for me and it's looking better and better with each update.

[ruby badge]

many people just wanted a better black flag, and this game is exactly that

the only thing that could go wrong is for ubislop to release black flag remake, but giving their recent track record I have a feeling that remake will flop

[zenith pawn]

same, black flag is the best pirate game, having a full pirate survival game similar to black flag will be awesome

[hallow night]

Black Flag combined with Valheim/Enshrouded =

[zenith pawn]

the beauty that I never thought will come to life

[surreal sierra]

SoT kinda turned me off of PVP for the most part. After a long day of work/study I want to relax and sail around at my own pace. If that peace is ruined by the most toxic and sweaty people known to man who hurl slurs at me and just spawncamp then I'm not longer enjoying the game and just wont play.

[bold rain]

Yes, the game will remove its mmoness to have more of pve. Exciiiited

[zenith pawn]

yeah I dont play sea of theives because of forced pvp alone.

I want a black flag level of experience

[surreal sierra]

Even if I win a battle, I still just think "damn that just wasnt enjoyable. I have 3 crates of cloth worth maybe 300 gold".

[ruby badge]

I seriously couldn't understand how the pregression in that game worked, it felt like the only purpose of the game is for people to fight and steal each other's loot, so it felt somewhat pointless to play at times

[hallow night]

That must feel kinda similar of UD rogues hard camping people in STV back in WoW days lol. So I think I feel that.

[bold rain]

I often play SoT and exactly the uncertainety of pvp is cool for me. Glad they introduced PvE servers for people to enjoy it without the pvp content.

[surreal sierra]

Its the ones that attack players just for the fun of it. If someone has a lot of loot that is worth it, absolutely go for it. If I've just finished a Fort of Fortune and have TONS of high level loot, I expect to be attacked, thats piracy for you. But If im running Merchant stuff just because Its relaxing but get attacked just because 'why not' thats when I think its stupid.

[hallow night]

Exactly. I tried it, but the game didn't make any sense to me. All weapons do the same damage, it really is only about griefing others and going for cosmetics. It got boring after an hour.

[zenith pawn]

just casually playing valheim :]

[bold rain]

We play with the rule: If the other one want to do PvP we PvP. If they dont attack back we go into an alliance

[hallow night]

Always 😛

[rocky valve]

But you might have good supplies and I need them chains

[bold rain]

I like that there id basically no progression (you level the companies and thats it).
Although I prefer it being Open PvE and if you activate pvp you can pvp. That would enhance it even more
Also there are secrets to be discovered with other random players.

[surreal sierra]

I also love hearing the PVP sweats argue the good ol' 'pirate game bruh you should expect to be attacked' line.

Like, have some decency. Pirates historically attacked ships to profit from their cargo. If its a new player who has literally nothing OR if its someone doing low level merchant runs, do you REALLY need that 20 gold?

[rocky valve]

We all know that merchants are the real threats

[bold rain]

Thats stuff I hate too.
If there is no loot to be getting its stupid.

[surreal sierra]

Taking Arena mode offline was an utterly dumb idea from Rare. It put all the hardcore pvp only players into the sandbox with the normal folk. Ruined the community dynamic within a week

[neat ferry]

You always run away from a fight!

[bold rain]

Yes. Absolutely.
They introduced a new combat experience but its not enough for the hardcore to go there. Plus a lot farming losses, because you stilll get xperience

[rocky valve]

I miss arena, but it never stopped me from sinking people outside of it. I do it for loot, supplies and if you come too close to whatever I am doing

[bold rain]

Meaning if we are on the dame server you attack? :p

[surreal sierra]

THAT is how it should be. Attacking players should always be 'You have something I need/want' OR 'back up cause I aint sharing'

However theres always those that attack anyone because 'hurr is funee'

[rocky valve]

No! But you better not lurk next to my FoF or similar :p

[surreal sierra]

FoF is a great example of when actual piracy is perfect. The person who's just finished the FoF has all the loot, PRIME target and they know it

[rocky valve]

I leave new people and genuine talltalers alone if I catch it in time

[bold rain]

But... i want loot

[rocky valve]

During is also a perfect time for shenanigan

[rocky valve]

Fight me, bruh! xD

[bold rain]

Alright. Lets bring it on

[surreal sierra]

I will be real, I would adore to see an arena mode in CW later on. the PVP Zone in the closed alpha was rudimentary but was great if you wanted to hop in and go at it against someone

[rocky valve]

May the best pirate.... run into wind for never to be seen again

[bold rain]

I hope the ships dont have just hp bars.

[rocky valve]

Armor or similarly would be cool

[bold rain]

Maybe something to progress with PvP exclusive content.

[ruby badge]

I have come to say that I have watched the new teaser trailer more than 50 times

[surreal sierra]

Have you played Naval action? I actually quite liked how their damage model works for ships. Instead of a flat hp bar with the stern being a weakspot, each area of the ship had its own bar so different areas of the ships would take different damage

[bold rain]

Atlas has the best thing going for naval.
Each plank has its own hp, you can tepair it mid fight and if its broken your ship slowly sinks.

[bold rain]

I dislike naval action.
Combat is WAY to slow and the game overall was just boring...

[rocky valve]

It is a fun idea, but maybe a bit comprehensive

[surreal sierra]

TRUE. I have my own reasons for strongly disliking naval action, but if we're discusing ship hp and damage types, I liked how they approached it

[zenith pawn]

yeah, I like it when naval combat is a bit fast, similar to black flag

[bold rain]

Atlas did it perfect in my opinion.
While atlas has its fair problem in content and performance sometimes, it has the best naval i have seen.

[bold rain]

Did you see how atlas ships work?
You build it from scratch, place every plank and sails how you want it.
Its absolutely mind blowing tbh.

There are ships rhat just have HP, but fighting other ships is so cool.

[surreal sierra]

From the sounds of it there mustve been some absolute monstrosities of ships built

[bold rain]

Yes aaaand no

It has its restriction, wverything you build has weight.
A ship is slower at middle weight. So building complete bunkers is not worth.

[rocky valve]

That is pretty cool, but I'm not sure I have the patience for that. I can spend hours perfecting things like that for then never to set sail xD

[surreal sierra]

Nothign can top HMS Budget Cuts

[rocky valve]

It looks... majestic?

[surreal sierra]

*Glorious

[rocky valve]

It is definitely something

[zenith pawn]

I wonder if there will be various sized galleons

rather than just big ones

[ruby badge]

from what i've seen and heard the ships that are confrimed are
boat
cutter
frigate
galleon
ship of the line

[rocky valve]

I like the idea of having a few more ship classes to cater to different play styles (e.g., wift and maneuverable vs. heavy but more cannons)

[surreal sierra]

Alright Imma head to the store. Yall want anything?

[zenith pawn]

I know galleon is confimed, but there are different size galleons

[rocky valve]

Can you get me more coffee, I'm almost out

[ruby badge]

perhaps thats where customaztion comes in :3

will have to wait and see

[rocky valve]

We also need to be able to make the boats pretty. We all know they are better when they look better

[zenith pawn]

customization has nothing to do with size tho, just the looks of a ship... or am I wrong?

[rocky valve]

I think he/she meant customisation as in being able to change cannon types and so on

[zenith pawn]

cannon types maybe, but not from small to big ship.
thats why im wondering if there will be small/medium/large galleons, or will there be only one type...

[rocky valve]

That is a good question

[surreal sierra]

Yeeeessssss, I cannot wait to put ONLY 42 pounder guns on every deck of my ship

[rocky valve]

Oh lawd! But that might improve HMS Firewood

[ruby badge]

whatever ship types we have is all good, I just want the ones the most cannons so when I shot at a certain direction I delete anything on that direction

https://tenor.com/view/triple-gun-davy-jones-pirates-of-the-caribbean-flying-dutchman-cannoneer-gif-14862902668888453593

[rocky valve]

https://tenor.com/view/ship-docking-boat-crash-boat-fail-boat-gif-3675487

[zenith pawn]

flying dutchman as a normal ship will be cool to have :]

[river night]

gimmew a schooner... or a brigantine and ill be very happy

[rocky valve]

Brigantine would be nice!

[river night]

the movie one or the actuall one?

[zenith pawn]

the uncursed movie one

[rocky valve]

The real one but with less dead people

[river night]

cause the POTC ship is based more on a spanish galleon rather than a dutch merchant where the legend comes from

[rocky valve]

Just give me a rowboat

[zenith pawn]

just give me a galleon :]

[river night]

or i may be wrong... some early flyutes did have that massive beakhead...

[ruby badge]

galleon is probably what I will end up with

[surreal sierra]

Is it? I thought the potc dutchman was based on the Vasa

[ruby badge]

its a good balance of both worlds

[zenith pawn]

galleon is my most favorite ship, it just looks the best

[ruby badge]

I was literally searching for the name of this ship you beat me to it by 1 sec

[rocky valve]

The vasa was a beautiful boat... but not for long xD

[river night]

tbh a frigate would be my go to, especially if we can get a more slimmed down one like trincomole or supprise

[river night]

thats why you dont put gunports just above the waterline lol

[ruby badge]

modeling the back of this ship in the game will be a nightmare

[rocky valve]

Mistakes were definitely made xD

[river night]

just a few lol

[rocky valve]

I would take a replica of the Hermione

[river night]

but gimme a a fast 22-28 gun frigate amd were golden. just one deck opf 18 pounders, solid stud and stay sails

[ruby badge]

oh yes, a feature that I hope will be in the game is the ability to name our ships, and to have their name display at the back

[zenith pawn]

a ship that looks like this will make me very happy :]

[river night]

or a slim 4th rate... like constitution

[hallow night]

I hope they add that. But seeing as how crew members have names I'm pretty sure that will also be included.

[surreal sierra]

Man I love old Conny. Gorgeous ship

[river night]

same... think her dersign might be too late for the game tho

[surreal sierra]

well, the game trailer says its 17XX

[ruby badge]

never say never

[river night]

pretty sure she was laid down in 18 somethin

[surreal sierra]

So, theres a chance...

👀

[river night]

ooof, were riding that border close haha

[surreal sierra]

Sorry, she was launched 1797

ordered in the 1780's

[zenith pawn]

will we get queen anne's revenge?
The normal version?

[surreal sierra]

my bad i just fact checked myself. She was ordered and laid down in 1794 and launched in 1797

[river night]

30 24 pound long guns and 20 32 pound carronades... absolute menace

[ruby badge]

blackbeard is one of the factions we fight in the game, so proably might be a boss figh ship or a legndary ship you can fight

[rocky valve]

Could be interesting

[zenith pawn]

would be cool if we can take the ship over and have it for ourselves

[river night]

side tangent, itd be cool if we could hire other captains in the end game to take care of moving resources or trading

[river night]

less armarment but can move faster against the wind

[rocky valve]

I would pay silly amounts of gold for a croc skin farmer

[river night]

boom, theres your balancing

[granite oxide]

Catching up on conversation - we know the ships will be customizable - but to what extent hasn't been fully revealed - you will definitely be able to make your ship yours with skins, deco, etc. But will have to wait to see what comes from the team later 🙂 I still wanna see this beast in the game #💬│windrose-chat message

[ruby badge]

there's already a feature or a mention of you hiring people to do work for you, so I wouldn't roll that out

[river night]

didnt we see it in the latest trailer..?

[granite oxide]

Until I am on it in game it hasn't happened lol

[river night]

or was it the shanty playlist? im pretty sure you catch a glimpse of the bow and then its in the distance of another shot

[ruby badge]

feel bad for the poor sailers that will have to fight this monster

[ruby badge]

I think its in the recent teaser

[river night]

Thats why you pull a real pirate strat and use long boats to bring you and a few fistfull of men to raid it in the night while shes anchored

[rocky valve]

Stop the boat!.... 5 hours later

[granite oxide]

I have a feeling its going to be one those things in the open world where you need lots of people and their crews to help take it down.

[ruby badge]

YO BAMBINO IS TYPING

[torpid dirge]

Hey! I'm not enterily sure, but that best way to not miss it is to stick around on this server 🙂

[zenith pawn]

hallo

[torpid dirge]

Hey chat ❤️

[red plinth]

hi

[ruby badge]

you guys are doing great!

[granite oxide]

No they not, they doing Freakin Awesome! LOL

[river night]

Keep it up lads, im checking in here almost every afternoon after work lol. the hype is real

[zenith pawn]

they're doing more than awesome!
is there even a word for that? XD

[quartz pivot]

Awesomer? 😏

[rocky valve]

Awesomest

[granite oxide]

or Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

lol

[rocky valve]

Even better

[granite oxide]

when you can't really say what you wanna say but theres a lot to say 🙂

[rocky valve]

At least it does not come out just yet, which gives me time to come up with an excuse for taking time off work, avoid people and turn into a computer gremlin for weeks straight

[zenith pawn]

you definitely copied and pasted that XD

[granite oxide]

No way in hell I could have typed it lol

but I thought it 🙂

[rocky valve]

Did you sing it?

[zenith pawn]

in school we had to sing it, and I hated it XD

[rocky valve]

I cannot help myself. I hum it every time I see it xD

[zenith pawn]

bruh XD

[rocky valve]

I know, but my brain can turn everything into a song and does it frequently xD

[zenith pawn]

same happens to me alot, but when it happens wrongly, then its torture XD

especially when my brain wont let it go XD

[agile beacon]

how to get the game ?$

[rocky valve]

Wait until it releases 😉

[zenith pawn]

or wait for a playtest
but thats temporary

[rocky valve]

You could try to butter the devs up, but I doubt that will work

[zenith pawn]

its funny that the steam page of the game says "coming soon" and ppl still come here and ask how to get it XD

[rocky valve]

Maybe offer them a massage, some coffee, a whiskey and great overtime pay

[zenith pawn]

I'll offer them money :]
but me broke now

[rocky valve]

I do not think there is much we can do to speed the process up sadly, except cheering them on from the sidelines

Which is free, so you are good 😄

[lofty basin]

The simple answer is: wait

[rocky valve]

Are we there yet?

[lofty basin]

The process cannot really be sped up.
Surely raising the morale is greatly appreciated!

But at this point, it's just waiting and then getting ready to give feedback when necessary.

[ruby badge]

every new member in the server be like : hOw dO I GeT ThE GaME

[rocky valve]

They are just excited, which is nice

[surreal sierra]

Good question. How do I get the game?

[zenith pawn]

this will be me when the game releases and I rush to instantly buy it XD

[rocky valve]

Nevermind that, did you get my coffee?

[surreal sierra]

truthfully I havnt even left yet. I am a chronic procrastinator. All I did was shower and get dressed.

[rocky valve]

Shoo! Off you go!

[surreal sierra]

and waiting for headphones to charge

Gotta listen to them shanties on the way

[rocky valve]

I'll accept that excuse, but I'm watching you

[zenith pawn]

will there be an option to turn off the shanties?

[lofty basin]

At least you've done it in the right order

[lofty basin]

Yes. You can already do that

[zenith pawn]

cool :]

I wish waiting didnt feel so torturous 😭

[modest wolf]

cant wait , will there be any new play tests

[lofty basin]

Can't say yet

[surreal sierra]

^not as in we dont want to say. As in even we dont know just yet

[lofty basin]

No. I just don't want to.

[spice hound]

Ngl it not going free to play is a relief
I was hoping to NOT see glowing neon ships and cat girl pirates
So

[zenith pawn]

yeeee

this game is gonna be great

[granite oxide]

@modest wolf its possible but it might also go into a early access as noted here #│announcements message

[modest wolf]

finders ane toes crossed

[surreal sierra]

There is still time

[lone pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-angry-jellyfish-pain-gif-8361374170543750469

[autumn girder]

Ahoy there!

[fast orchid]

Ahoy

[autumn girder]

I just finished watching the teaser and I have to say they're doing a really great job.
I'm even happier to see they've opted for the B2P formula.

[urban pumice]

server hosting would be cool.. Set a generated world PVE or PVP and etc.. Higher player counts on a server if one wants it to be.

[autumn girder]

in short, a server with ad hoc settings

[zenith pawn]

the galleon in that teaser looked awesome, did you see it too? :D
not as aggressive looking as I hoped but I still loved it

[surreal sierra]

The first rate? Aye its a beauty. Cannot wait to get my hands on one

[zenith pawn]

no I mean a galleon
I didnt see first rate in the teaser

[surreal sierra]

Are you able to give me the timestamp? Because the one at 0:55 is the first rate

[zenith pawn]

I believe that is a galleon, it does not look like a first rate

[autumn girder]

In fact, several vessels are shown.
The schooner and scouts already present in Alpha and a
galleon per second 56/59

[zenith pawn]

timestamp is 0:58

[surreal sierra]

https://discordapp.com/channels/1260209458924224542/1352702383372894288 Its a 1st rate SotL based on the Royal William

[autumn girder]

yes, that's him

[lofty basin]

Looks like a late 1600s to early 1700s Ship of the line. Hard to say if 2nd or 1st rate. But I am pretty sure that's the model they showed previously.

Which means it's based in the royal William

And 1719 first rate

[zenith pawn]

so its not a galleon?

[split delta]

Man cant wait for next playtest..guys thanks for helping me in the prev playtest..i was the guy who points with his finger in pictures

[surreal sierra]

Its just the lighting, I can say with a certainty its the 1st rate from the FAQ and when she was sat in Tortuga during closed alpha

[zenith pawn]

lemme see I have a pic of the first rate from the alpha

[surreal sierra]

I am certain it is the lighting in the video that makes it look different. I remember vividly having to parkour along the sides to get up to the decks and that top deck is identical to the one I explored in the alpha

[zenith pawn]

for me the shape of the entire hull looks different

[autumn girder]

I don't remember, were MOWs present in the Alpha?

[surreal sierra]

She existed and was in Tortuga as a teaser but she wasnt usable or obtainable

[autumn girder]

I hope they will be in the future

[zenith pawn]

mhmm it probably is the lighting XD

I see a galleon in the background tho :D

[surreal sierra]

I dont have a terribly good selection of scrfeenshots from the alpha, but looking at the views from the trailer of the bulkheads and top deck, its the first rate

[fast orchid]

With them drifting away from the MMO lite route means optimization will at least be feasible to have it in the game

[zenith pawn]

yeah I saw it too, the lighting is just too different

[surreal sierra]

now THATS is intriguing. Good eye. I dont recognise that one

[autumn girder]

That said, I wish you a good night.
Tomorrow will be a long and hot day.

[surreal sierra]

gn matey]

[zenith pawn]

thank you, ngl if that is the galleon, it looks frikkin excellent from that shape alone

[surreal sierra]

Aye, its very hard to tell given we cant see too much, BUT its 3 masted and looks like it has shallower decks. So it may very well be a form of galleon. The raised stern cannot be the Frigate so it must be a new or differently modelled ship entirely

[zenith pawn]

and I dont have to worry about the game disappearing one day :D

[zenith pawn]

yeah, the shape of the hull has some very aggressive curves when looking at it from front to back, similar to a galleon

[fast orchid]

Yeah hopefully not!

[young vault]

When is the next playtest?

[surreal sierra]

we dont know yet

[young vault]

ok

[fast orchid]

If their early access time is what's taken over from the idea for an early release there's a chance they just drop it late next year instead of doing another playtest

[zenith pawn]

heres a decent looking medium ship :D

[lofty basin]

I like this one

[zenith pawn]

nice :D

heres another one :D
its called san felipe

[lofty basin]

Great. Now I have to restrain myself from posting 50 different ships that I like.

[zenith pawn]

someone is typing for 50 years

[zenith pawn]

heres another one :]

[lofty basin]

Not a fan honestly

Stop baiting me!

[zenith pawn]

XD

[lofty basin]

I won't post 50 more ships

But maybe... One more

[glacial cloak]

This Dev Update IS HUGE!!! LFG!!!

[Crosswind Roadmap: Updated](#💬│windrose-chat message)

Dev Update 14 Aug 2025

• PvE co-op focus
• Buy-to-Play/ One-Time Purchase Model
• Early Access Planned
• Offline Play Support Planned
• Mod Friendly Dev Team: "If Not Supported, Mods Will At Least Be Technically Feasible"

Man If they do this right, could be huge... Nothing preventing them from hosting Vanilla Servers in the future for Events, Custom Game Modes, The Gamer Friendly Dev Team Taking Cue's From The Community Makes a "SOT Insiders Club" for future feature testing Server a possibility...

The Change in Focus Means Possible Faster Path To Early Access

Thanks for the update Crosswind Team!
REHYPED!!!!

[lofty basin]

What's SOT?

[zenith pawn]

sea of thieves

[glacial cloak]

Now I can Start Trying to Get The MALTESE FALCON Crosswind Mod Pack

[zenith pawn]

heres another one :D

[lofty basin]

That I can get slightly behind

[raven dagger]

shame they had to remove the point of differences to other pve coop survival games but totally understandable

[lofty basin]

Never heard of it.

[zenith pawn]

why are decent ship pics so hard to find :/

[lofty basin]

You need to look for plans

[young vault]

@zenith pawn there you go

[lofty basin]

Royal Museum Greenwich has a lot of cool ship plans

And a lot of them publicly available online

[zenith pawn]

ooh, I have a lot of decent lego ship pictures :D

[zenith pawn]

thats an interesting name

[glacial cloak]

How can I tie in the MALTESE FALCON with lore... Pirate Finds Lamp, Makes Bad Wish, Ends Up Breaking The Space Time Continuum, BAM MALTESE FALCON Boss Spawns...

[zenith pawn]

:]

[glacial cloak]

The Hellenistic Giant Galley

[hallow night]

Here's my mighty raft - none of you got anything on me.

[glacial cloak]

Goated Transport

[zenith pawn]

just one cannon shot and you go boom
:]

[hallow night]

IF you can hit me!

[glacial cloak]

You'd have to hit um first...

[zenith pawn]

ima ram into you instead
:]

[hallow night]

IF you can catch me!

[zenith pawn]

I see no sail on that thing

[hallow night]

I got an oar and a strong right arm

[zenith pawn]

is that really gonna be faster than a 10kn saling ship

tbf even a small boat can ram it over

[hallow night]

I have held a hammer in Valheim for more than 5k hours. Trust, that arm is strong

[ornate lava]

after reading the new dev update i think these guys are now my favorite dev team..

[zenith pawn]

exactly what I thought :D

[glacial cloak]

Boss Ships Like the Baron of Renfrew Should be a thing....

[zenith pawn]

those games timelines are like hundreds of years apart XD

[ornate lava]

i was scared this game would turn out like atlas

[zenith pawn]

I was scared that I would have to play with 200+ ping from where I live XD

[lofty basin]

Bruh

[ornate lava]

same man.. same

[lofty basin]

Did you just Google largest sailing ship ever ?

I am 90% sure that ship didn't even look as good as on that picture

[zenith pawn]

black pearl should be in the game as a special ship, and the fastest :]

[lofty basin]

Given it's just made out of logs tied together

[glacial cloak]

Think I was 10 when I first sailed, I've got some books..

[lofty basin]

Not a fan of those crossovers honestly

But that's just me

[zenith pawn]

aww, why u like this

[river night]

What about an ironclad? not like the ones in the civil war but the sailing ships that just had a band of iron around their hulls? so you have to stern rake or demast it to deal damage or board to take it over

[river night]

i agree, also the licencing would be hellish to try and get

[zenith pawn]

yeh that makes sense

[river night]

ok idea about ship customization... what if its slider based? like you could have a slider that would increase gun count but itd take up cargo space as a trade off or maybe weaken the armor, bigger sails for better speed but youll struggle trying to sail upwind...

[glacial cloak]

Stealing the MALTESE FALCON was a SHTF drunk'n party night kind of thing... I've been a drooling over that ship Sense 2009 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RQnGMK1_rI

[lofty basin]

Sounds like a nightmare to make

[river night]

i know component customization is unlikely but i just think itd be fun to take a trade ship and cut some more gunports in it ya know?

[river night]

yeah... probably lol

[zenith pawn]

I hope sailing wont feel too slow

wouldn't it be better if fast travelling used energy, and you have a certain amount of it.

It would add some balance between sailing and fast travel

[glacial cloak]

Even if they don't with the B2P model moders will be able to add all of the features over time

[fast orchid]

I think it's preference, as it was the in the alpha the sailing wasn't slow there just wasn't much in the water and fast travels were cheap late game but I still found myself sailing more often than now just for how nice it was, plus there's the added bonus of letting the motion sick players play with the assistance of others

[zenith pawn]

oke

[glacial cloak]

I'd Like to See Them Attempt a Ship Listing & Tacking System... Add The Bosuns Chair And Weight Displacement System ... The Fun you Could Have....

[zenith pawn]

I wish I could sleep until this game releases

[zenith pawn]

I have no Idea what you just said here

[glacial cloak]

Ship listing refers to a vessel's tendency to lean or tilt to one side (port or starboard) due to uneven weight distribution or taking on water. This can be caused by various factors such as improper cargo loading, water ingress, or damage to the ship. Listing is a critical stability issue and can lead to capsizing if the list becomes too severe.

[zenith pawn]

I dont think cargo should really play a role in this, it is just a game and its not really trying to be too realistic.

would be cool if it sinks slowly when damaged tho

[glacial cloak]

A bosun's chair (or boatswain's chair) is a device used to suspend a person from a rope to perform work aloft.[1] Originally just a short plank or swath of heavy canvas, many modern bosun's chairs incorporate safety devices similar to those found in rock climbing harnesses such as safety clips and additional lines.

[zenith pawn]

ima go now, its midnight and my eyes are dying

[glacial cloak]

Not saying it would have to Damage or Sink your ship. But Adding that Side to Side Sway Axis and possibly being able to damage that ability would make for some interesting game play. A bosun's chair without Listing still makes sense cause Mast Ladders 🤮are Not Real... Change my mind But a Bosuns bosun's chair with Listing means Rope Swing Boarding Could Become a Thing.

Imagine Having the Ability To Board An Enemy Ship, Take over The Bosuns Chair, and with an Anchor point at foot of your mast, You Could Use The Forced Listing Full Deck Volley Finisher

[modern canyon]

whoah whoah whoah... whos key didnt get deactivated... fess up

[hallow night]

Okay fine I'm still in, sailing the waters on my mighty raft.

Why'd you have to throw me under the bus like that though

[modern canyon]

i initially wanted to say "dang, this game fell off hard" but i didnt know if people would guess satire, and i dont wanna get banned from the server haha

[fast orchid]

probably devs

[spiral quiver]

WAIT A SEC..that says there was 1 user on last friday lol

WTH...

[fast orchid]

Either devs or someone sitting in the menu

All steam needs to see is that the game is open to be considerd "Playing"

[spiral quiver]

no one else caught that until i mentioned it huh

dont even play sea , you didnt see it

[modern canyon]

oh hahaha, i didnt sea it at first

sorry, ill show myself out now

[spiral quiver]

good ss though

[fast orchid]

You have so little faith in my willingness to scrutinize an image XD

[modern canyon]

hang on i need an ego check, lemme put a selfie

[fast orchid]

XD

[modern canyon]

r/roastme

r/weaveme

get it? do you sea what i did there?

[fast orchid]

-_-

[lofty basin]

We should all boot up the games menu and push the playercount to an absurd number to scare out the Devs

[spiral quiver]

hahaha

[fast orchid]

XD I would but I'm keeping my playtime accurate and honest for fututre refrences

[modern canyon]

how many awful puns can i make before i get banned

[lofty basin]

Depends

[spiral quiver]

you aint bad , friggin jeezee eats peanut butter with a fork , top that wierd sh..

[fast orchid]

XD

[lofty basin]

D:

[fast orchid]

Retro saw for sure

[lofty basin]

You are allowed to stay if you can tell me what game my profile picture is from

[hallow night]

Don't. Retro spectively you might regret it

[modern canyon]

dude... when i was younger (like 18-20) i kept a jar of pb on my desk, ate that "ship" raw with a spoon whenever i was smokin the wacky tobaccy

best snack ever... aside from toasted goldfish

[lofty basin]

Huh

[modern canyon]

what did the crew see when they looked in the toilet?

[spiral quiver]

dude , i had my um , first old mans thing done earlier this year , afterwords they give you a lil snack ,..how in hte heck have i missed skippy on toast my entire life?

[modern canyon]

The Captain's Log

[hallow night]

I have decided that I like you

[modern canyon]

that makes one of us

[lofty basin]

That was expected schooner or later.

[modern canyon]

way to "barge" into the conversation

[lofty basin]

Hey there. You are Barquing up the wrong tree

Anyways. Dhow are you ?

[modern canyon]

im deciding what game to play... black flag "oar" SOT

[lofty basin]

Black flag is Bedar

[fast orchid]

Bathesda's POTC

[modern canyon]

naw, actually...

[fast orchid]

Just as acceptable

[spiral quiver]

which would you rudder have , a bull Mastiff or a a Pitbull

[lofty basin]

Anyways. I am out for now. 👋

[fast orchid]

Also I've learned that I've been playing a different version all my life, turns out the OG xbox and PC version of POTC by them are two completely different games

[modern canyon]

you cant sea me, but im waving back at you

[woven aspen]

is there a way to pay right now to play?

[fast orchid]

Not yet sadly

Soon

hopefully anyways

[zenith pawn]

The devs should update the faq in steam discussion, its still old

[river night]

wait, when was the last time we saw the ketch in game or in trailers?

[jagged onyx]

so if the game is not going to be an MMO, is there still going to be pvp servers, where I can raid other peoples ship and stuff

[fallow ether]

wait what? lol