Rhori Log Review | Ravenholdt | Page 1

astral wren Apr 22, 2022, 9:46 PM

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@finite grove looking at it now during downtime at work, one second!

ebon heath Apr 22, 2022, 9:48 PM

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1st thing i noticed is you talented into Crimson Tempest, but you did not use it on rygelon at all. We still want to maintain Crimson Tempest as much as possible in ST.

atomic widget Apr 22, 2022, 9:48 PM

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your opener is all over the place

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your uptime on bleeds is very low

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not using CT is yikes

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those ambush casts shouldn't exist

astral wren Apr 22, 2022, 9:49 PM

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Apparently I have no need, please do god’s work boys.
I was typing all of these out too.
Ty NODDERS

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Yes

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You’ll Crimson Tempest ST, if you’re talented

atomic widget Apr 22, 2022, 9:50 PM

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you really want to run MfD as venthyr

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might want to read the pins in assassination to get the playstyle right

ebon heath Apr 22, 2022, 9:51 PM

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Im not sure on what sims better without 4p but you def wnat to get used to using CT in single target and maybe even using the snapshot opener without 4p since you should be getting 4p relativly soon

astral wren Apr 22, 2022, 9:51 PM

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Guides for venthyr are being updated accordingly now as it is a new(er) tech than launch of 9.2, so it is worth reading the pins along with guides

ebon heath Apr 22, 2022, 9:51 PM

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#assassination message this one mainly

astral wren Apr 22, 2022, 9:53 PM

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Single target

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Sorry I’m using a lot of jargon ohno

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Imma let the boys hit it since I’m working, and I’ll let them do it. They’re doing a good job

mortal plover Apr 22, 2022, 9:54 PM

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For 2 piece I believe you run Dashing or Doomblade over Dusk, but the FAQ isn’t fully updated yet.

astral wren Apr 22, 2022, 9:54 PM

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If I see anything missed later, I’ll ping

astral wren Apr 22, 2022, 9:54 PM

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mortal plover For 2 piece I believe you run Dashing or Doomblade over Dusk, but the FAQ isn’t ...

It’s whatever sims best, for my profile at the time dusk was simming better

ebon heath Apr 22, 2022, 9:54 PM

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i think its not worth making a bis 2p build for a new rogue tbh they should be getting a 4p sooner than later with Creation Catalyst

mortal plover Apr 22, 2022, 9:55 PM

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True, main takeaway for sure is if you talent CT, make sure you use it 🙂

ebon heath Apr 22, 2022, 9:55 PM

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yeah if you can swap to marked for death and maintain your bleed uptime a bit more youll see lots of improvement

flint silo Apr 22, 2022, 9:56 PM

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I’ll just chime in for lords - run necro, use subterfuge, deeper strat instead of venth - ma/vigor. You’ll open up with garrote on both targets, sbs on one to get the dot up, snd

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And run zold especially if you don’t have 4pc with lords

astral wren Apr 22, 2022, 9:56 PM

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There are many many things. I’ll also tl;dr the list at the end for you noob 🙂

ebon heath Apr 22, 2022, 9:57 PM

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i thought you just called him a noob and was very worried monka

finite grove Apr 22, 2022, 9:57 PM

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xD

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i put the nickname on purpose xD

ebon heath Apr 22, 2022, 9:57 PM

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yeah i see that now lol

astral wren Apr 22, 2022, 9:59 PM

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No, no. Log review is meant for improvement not for belittling. Anyone looking to be better should get the answers they look for

finite grove Apr 22, 2022, 10:00 PM

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thanks a lot about what you all said, i try to improve myself to be ready for the next season and maybe play in high key with friends (they never played rogue so couldn't help me about it)

astral wren Apr 22, 2022, 10:01 PM

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One other basic thing I’m noticing, is you’re overcapping a bit on your mutilates. I’d watch out. It’s okay to slow down and chill.
Big things:

if you’re running CT, use it single target. Priority on finishers are SND > keeping up snd with envenom in pandemic > rupture in pandemic > CT during pandemic > envenom if nothing else to do.
don’t overcap.
read a guide and look at opener and how we’re supposed to do it.
also on your build be sure to use MFD to maximize your flag windows
work on all bleed uptime

finite grove Apr 22, 2022, 10:01 PM

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i'll try to do a Word for me about the guides in this discord and about what you all said so i can see what i should do exactly in fight and about covenants

finite grove Apr 22, 2022, 10:01 PM

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astral wren One other basic thing I’m noticing, is you’re overcapping a bit on your mutilate...

about it !

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i have a big problem

astral wren Apr 22, 2022, 10:01 PM

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Button masher?

finite grove Apr 22, 2022, 10:01 PM

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sometimes when i press my key to use CP it don't go

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no no i try to be at least 4CP to not overcap

flint silo Apr 22, 2022, 10:02 PM

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Parry

finite grove Apr 22, 2022, 10:02 PM

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but most of the time my CP user don't go i don't know why

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when i try my keyboard on a blank page like i would play every keys works

astral wren Apr 22, 2022, 10:02 PM

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Parries happen

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And then you lose that cast, so you just mash it up is all

mortal plover Apr 22, 2022, 10:03 PM

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From an opener perspective, definitely look at the guides posted in the FAQ or in the pins of Assassination channel. Definitely basics are being missed, like using Ambush as Venthyr for example.

finite grove Apr 22, 2022, 10:05 PM

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i got that question in my mind : does it right to not use energy at all for some seconds ? because when it's not overcaping energy or CP, i do feel the lack of energy

astral wren Apr 22, 2022, 10:07 PM

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That’s because your bleed uptime is low

mortal plover Apr 22, 2022, 10:07 PM

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If you want to just practice the 4pc opener on a dummy since you’ll have it in a couple weeks,

Mut, SnD, Mut, garrote > flag > rupture > mfd (marked for death) > Ct > vendetta > shiv > vanish > Mut > envenom > Mut

astral wren Apr 22, 2022, 10:07 PM

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Our energy regen is tied directly to your bleeds due to venomous wounds

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If you’re having issues tracking them, I’d recommend typing !wa in #assassination and getting one of them

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They’re very helpful

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NODDERS

mortal plover Apr 22, 2022, 10:08 PM

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finite grove i got that question in my mind : does it right to not use energy at all for some...

Garrote and rupture uptime should be as close to 100% as possible

finite grove Apr 22, 2022, 10:08 PM

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oh sh!t i lose that much ?! xD

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ok i understand know why my dps is terrible

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i thought i was ok bcs i sim 10k and do 5/7k in fights but then i saw the first log (one i gave u) and now i see the big gap between what i thought and the reality...

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i have treat plat as addon but i don't really notice my DoT on multiple target, there is a better one for rogues ?

ebon heath Apr 22, 2022, 10:13 PM

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most tracking is done in Weak auras rather than dedicated addons now

finite grove Apr 22, 2022, 10:13 PM

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and there is something like logs to see the mistakes in M+ ? i didn't know how to make it works in keys

finite grove Apr 22, 2022, 10:13 PM

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ebon heath most tracking is done in Weak auras rather than dedicated addons now

okok

mortal plover Apr 22, 2022, 10:14 PM

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Gonna be real. Just play sub in keys 😂

ebon heath Apr 22, 2022, 10:15 PM

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keys are very situational and typically rogues are the mechanic guys so its our job to CC/Kick/go do the thing. but you can log but typically its easier to just record gameplay and do vod reviews in my opinion

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and yeah

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sub in keys is the better play

finite grove Apr 22, 2022, 10:15 PM

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well let's hope my PC don't die before the end of the key then xd

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Yeah i'll try to start an off stuff for sub then xd

ebon heath Apr 22, 2022, 10:17 PM

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sub in keys is pretty easy at a baseline level atleast

finite grove Apr 22, 2022, 10:19 PM

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hmm stats on Tier pieces must change between two spec or it's the same for everyone from the same class ?

atomic widget Apr 22, 2022, 10:19 PM

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same for everyone

finite grove Apr 22, 2022, 10:19 PM

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ok nice, less stuff to change for double spec then xd

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